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0:55🔗VoiceoverLoveline may contain sexually oriented goods. 1-800-LOVE-191 with Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla.
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1:19🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline. Again, I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Jerri Manthey is our guest tonight. She is of course Jerri from Survivor. She's got a real good looking one with a lot of hair. You guys definitely know from Survivor. Oh yeah. Well, it's true. And what the hell? How did you keep that hair going during that shoot?
1:49🔗Jerri MantheyI have no idea. I've been asked that a lot by women with curly hair. I really don't know. I was sure I was going to get out there and look like Tina Turner at some point, but I got lucky.
1:59🔗AdamYou know, every time I saw Survivor, all I could really think about is what if I got a white head? And would I walk around with that white head on my face?
2:14🔗AdamDid people groom other people like what chimps do with each other?
2:18🔗Jerri MantheyYou know, we kind of made a pact at some point to, you know, let the other one know if there's something in your teeth, you got a booger in your nose, something like that. Because there's cameras everywhere and you don't want to, you know, you don't want to make a fool out of yourself.
2:30🔗AdamHow much, how much filming went on on an average day?
2:35🔗Jerri MantheyOh, God, there was, there's always two beta cams running in like four to five digital video cameras, handhelds, running around 24-7.
3:35🔗Jerri MantheyOh, my God. That's what he said. She would say that. And that's why we love her, because she doesn't change for anybody. She's not embarrassed.
4:06🔗AdamYeah. I mean, you can't make it from your with your wife from South Pasadena into Brentwood in a in a luxury SUV without going insane when she's on the rag, right?
4:21🔗AdamDid you guys sync up at all or were you there long enough?
4:25🔗Jerri MantheyNo, we didn't. See, some of the girls thought that by taking the pill through their whole period, they wouldn't get their period, and they ended up getting it the entire time they were out there.
4:33🔗DrewBecause of the diet problems. Yeah. They were losing weight and they weren't eating.
4:36🔗Jerri MantheyInteresting. The crazy part is that all of us are still dealing with trying to get our bodies back on cycle.
4:45🔗DrewYeah. Just that cycle. But in the tricholinal, you feel okay, you feel good.
4:49🔗Jerri MantheyNo. Maybe I could talk to you about this a little bit. Yeah. The physical effects of this thing.
4:55🔗Jerri MantheyWere so brutal. Yeah. It's taken months and months to be able to digest food normally again. Because when you starve yourself, then you start eating again, you just blow up like a balloon, and that's quite frightening.
5:08🔗DrewDid they have someone follow you or monitor that or anything?
5:11🔗Jerri MantheyThat was my main concern, actually, when they asked me if you could change one thing. I was like, you guys really need to get a nutritionist on board.
5:25🔗AdamWhat was the worst thing you ate? What did you eat during that grub challenge where you had to spin that thing around? What did you put in your mouth?
5:34🔗Jerri MantheyIt was a mangrove shellfish. It was very similar to an oyster, but it was like five times the size. It had a tail about six inches long. And it had cartilage inside of it. So when you chewed it, it crunched.
5:54🔗Jerri MantheyNo, I sucked it down. I got it down, but I gagged a couple of times.
5:59🔗AdamWas there something else? Did you do two or just one?
6:01🔗Jerri MantheyI just had to do one. There were some people that had to do two. And there were a couple of things on there that were horrible. There was this big yellow bug. It was about six inches long. It had big eyes and pinchers. That was the only thing I did.
6:16🔗Jerri MantheyNo, no one had to. But someone had to eat a really large grasshopper.
6:21🔗AdamYeah, it's so painful. I know why you would put yourself through it. Did you do it for the money? Did you do it for the challenge? Did you do it for the exposure or all of the above?
6:33🔗Jerri MantheyI actually applied for the first one before anybody knew it was going to be this huge hit. And the reason I applied was because of the whole adventure aspect. Because I go camping a lot.
6:59🔗Jerri MantheyBut when you're out there, you're craving things and you know you can't have them. And there's something, it almost drives you to a point of mania, which is what happened to me when I was craving chocolate. I about lost my mind.
7:10🔗AdamDid you, have you gotten offers from Playboy and other places like that? I'm sure you have. Yeah?
7:17🔗AdamOh really? Yeah. Smart. Now here's the thing though. I mean, you have to kind of strike while the iron is hot, correct? We can't let too much time go by.
7:26🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. There's definitely a period of time that I think people are really after all of us. But with me, it's a little bit different because I was doing the acting thing before I even went on Survivor.
7:59🔗DrewBut remember, it's not for the money, right? And it happens to be she can get a lot of money, but she's doing it because it keeps the momentum going.
8:07🔗AdamWell, she wouldn't have done it for the 10 grand though.
8:09🔗Jerri MantheyWell, it's just a matter of can they give me what I want from the deal? And not just monetary, but also creatively as well. I see this for me as a way to express myself as a woman and make a stand.
8:24🔗AdamWell, I mean, everyone looks good in that magazine, right? I mean, they take women in their mid fifties that come out looking pretty good. I mean, they're going to put you in a survivor. They'll put you in a survivor motif, won't they?
9:53🔗AdamNo, I did not. How dare you? I thought they were idiots for paying me. I just want to know, it's not like the tax man isn't going to find out. It's not like you got to worry about it. Are we in the- We're into six figures.
10:10🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. It would hurt me if I discussed numbers right now.
10:14🔗AdamThere's a weird stigma in this society about that. Where I come from, you make money, you brag about how much. You get a nice pinky ring, and you gold anodize the hubcaps on your Cadillac, and a nice big fur fedora, and a purple duster, and you're really advertised.
10:29🔗Jerri MantheyYou're the kind of guy that leaves town and tells everyone you're going out of town too, right?
11:01🔗AdamAll right. So it's for the money. That's the other thing too. It's not. Why can't people dismiss they do stuff for money?
11:07🔗Jerri MantheyBecause it's not. There's more to it for me than that. It's, I mean, I think Playboy is a very respectable magazine. And I think it's an opportunity to be immortalized.
12:41🔗AdamWell, listen, if that's what your theory is, why don't you try to test your theory by putting yourself down for three or four times a week and see how it works?
12:50🔗CallerWell, actually, this hasn't happened for a while. I just...
12:54🔗DrewHe hasn't made it that way. There's nothing to worry about, okay? Relax, relax. I'm sure it's fine.
13:15🔗CallerLet's see. I've got a couple of questions. One, the last couple of guys that I've dated, like we had this really big thing with sex, you know? And I enjoyed like, you know, pleasuring them or whatever. But this guy that I'm dating right now, I like him a whole lot. And he's not really into, I mean, he likes to have sex and everything, but he's not into it as often as my previous boyfriend.
13:43🔗CallerSo it's like, so it's kind of hard for me to get off of it. Like, I'm really into sex, you know? But at the same time, like after I'm done having sex, I feel bad about it because, I mean, it's not necessarily like he doesn't necessarily want to, but it's like he's doing it more than I want to, than he wants to. I mean, this isn't like all the time, but this is-
14:04🔗DrewHow often are you guys actually doing it?
14:09🔗DrewAnd why does it make you feel bad to initiate?
14:13🔗CallerI don't know, because sometimes she's just not in the mood.
14:15🔗DrewYeah, but that's fine. But guys go through that all the time.
14:18🔗AdamI know, but women don't want to press it.
14:20🔗DrewI mean, they want to be desired. Yeah, but that's right. And usually what women will do when they don't like to initiate is they won't. But she goes ahead and then feels guilty about it. And my point is that, hey, it's okay. Why feel bad about it?
14:31🔗AdamI'm getting a little more of a vibe off of Heather than just this.
14:33🔗DrewThat's where I'm going. I know, I understand.
14:51🔗DrewCompulsed. See, what I think is these other guys participated with her in the compulsion, and that sort of supported her thing. And now she's confronted with a more real relationship, with their real feelings, and she's conflicted and feels guilty, and doesn't know how she feels about her sexuality all of a sudden, because you can't just use it compulsively the way you used to.
15:07🔗AdamAlso, sometimes when guys feel a little bit of compulsion sprinkled in with that sexuality, they freak out a little and try to get a little distance. Heather, were you ever sexually abused?
15:37🔗CallerUm, I've actually, like, I... When I'm, like, getting off, you know, when I masturbate, like, I think about, like, girls, but I'm hetero.
15:45🔗DrewI'm completely hetero. Well, I mean, the way to think about this, Heather, well, but she... The way to think about this is that somebody sort of soldered your wires together at a premature age, okay? And the kind of arousal that that resulted in was directed... was caused by a female. And so naturally enough, a lot of your sort of sexual arousal, when you hit puberty, then comes directed at a female. That's sort of how that works.
16:05🔗AdamHow old was the female that molested you?
16:08🔗CallerWell, if she was sexually abused too, I think she... I believe she was like seven or eight.
16:12🔗DrewYeah, that's usually what happens. The child... un-child sexual abuse is very, very common.
16:43🔗DrewYeah. So it's a full plate there, you know? And it's natural enough that you have conflicted feelings.
16:48🔗AdamThis is what the guys are feeling, by the way. I mean, they don't know how to sort it out, but they're feeling like this weird energy that's more than sex, and I think it freaks them out sometimes. And if you can find another guy that's a little bit screwed up, he'll dive right in.
17:00🔗DrewThat's what she's had last couple of boyfriends. She's had other compulsive guys.
17:03🔗AdamThis new guy is probably not as whacked out as your other guys.
17:08🔗DrewYeah, it's a real relationship, and that's why all these funny feelings, because you're really having a relationship. You're not just using sex as a way of gratifying some feelings.
17:16🔗CallerWell, I also dated him like two years ago when I was 15, and we broke up, but I haven't talked to him for like two years, and then we got back together.
17:25🔗DrewWell, just listen. Stay with the guy. We think things are fine. Don't feel guilty when you initiate sex. Realize he's going to push back a little bit because you've got a little excessive energy around sexuality. You sexualize everything because you're sexually abused. If you really want to do something about this, get some treatment.
18:09🔗She has a period every five, six months. She doesn't have a period that often. I was going to know what her chances are of getting pregnant. Wow.
19:46🔗AdamHe gives me test every night. Listen, we'll start with oral sex, and then we'll just work our way into other things. We'll see where the relationship goes.
19:55🔗DrewLet's ask you some questions about Survivor, because everybody wants to know about that. Go ahead. Did you have a relationship with Colby, really?
20:16🔗Jerri MantheyWell, I mean, initially we were attracted to each other.
20:21🔗DrewAnd would you think if you guys had been at a busy bar that would have been there too or is that just because you were at a desert island alone?
20:27🔗Jerri MantheyNo, I think we kind of gave up the same energy and it was attractive to both of us. But when you're playing this game, there's no trust. And for me, that's the basis of everything. So when you start looking at someone and you start wondering why they're saying and doing the things that they're saying and doing, then I just kind of.
20:48🔗AdamDid he have a girlfriend back wherever he was from?
20:51🔗Jerri MantheyI think he has many girlfriends.
20:58🔗AdamYou know why? Because he's one of these good looking athletic type guys who plays it off like he doesn't think he's much of anything. Very interesting angle.
21:08🔗Jerri MantheyI don't see. I don't agree with that.
22:12🔗Jerri MantheyListen, I just, you know what? I was attracted to him and I have no qualms about flirting with someone if I'm attracted to him. But it got weird with cameras around and he said things to me off camera that didn't make the show, that kind of led me on. And he played me.
22:30🔗AdamLike what? Like when we get off out of this place, we're going to get together, that kind of stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you guys were talking about dating or going out or getting together when you, I kept wanting to say get off the island, but get out of the continent.
23:08🔗DrewThat was you or the whole show took 27 days?
23:11🔗Jerri MantheyThe whole show was 42 days. I was out there 27, but I made the jury, so I had to come back every three days up until the final 42 were over.
23:19🔗AdamAnd when you left, did you think there was going to be something going on with you and Kobe?
24:04🔗Jerri MantheyNo, I'm not angry at him. I'm just kind of disappointed because I don't think it was necessary in the context of the game to play that kind of game.
24:12🔗DrewOh, you think that was strategy on his part?
24:15🔗Jerri MantheyWell, I never voted for him, so it might have been. But some of the things he said were unnecessary.
24:36🔗Jerri MantheyI don't know. I don't know you well enough.
24:37🔗AdamAll right. Takes her a while. Oh, yes. All right, we will take ourselves a little break. Jerri from Survivors, our guest tonight. When we come back, we'll speak to Tom, Thomas 20. His girlfriend wants to put her vibrator up his butt.
25:47🔗AdamJerri Manthey's our guest tonight. She is the beautiful, long, curly haired one from Survivor, which, well, everyone knows about Survivor.
25:58🔗DrewNow, why do you think people sort of turned on you? Your friends, your buddies?
26:04🔗Jerri MantheyWell, I think some people tend to be threatened by women who take control of a situation. Because personally, I don't think I did anything out there that rubbed anyone the wrong way.
26:21🔗DrewYou watched footage of the show since you've been out?
26:23🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, I watched it right along with everyone else in America and watched this basically character of me turn into this total bitch. I sat there with everyone else going, oh my God, I am a bitch.
26:36🔗AdamYeah, Drew was saying that. I thought you were great, but Drew said, boy, what a bitch. I defended you.
26:45🔗AdamOh, please. I watch the show religiously. Now, everybody we speak to who has done this sort of thing or who was on one of these MTV shows or all this real world and all this stuff says, it's all in the editing. I mean, that was not me or they basically constructed a sort of collage that became me via sound bites and bits and pieces.
27:12🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, well, I'm never, I've never gone to record nor will I to say that what you saw in the show isn't me, because it was in fact me. It was me starved and sleep depraved.
27:26🔗Jerri MantheyI was so irritable and I was around people who were afraid to take control of the situation and improve the situation. Whereas with me, if I see something that needs to be done, I'm not going to sit around and wait because I'm afraid that someone else is going to judge me.
28:11🔗AdamThrow rugs, shawls. We'd all be in great shape. The number one, at least my vibe is, is the number one a-hole on the island was the chef guy. Keith. Was that Pete?
28:46🔗AdamI watched a few of the episodes. I always heard people bitching about him and not trusting him, but I never really saw him do anything. I just saw everyone hating him.
28:56🔗Jerri MantheyI know. A lot of that got left out.
28:58🔗AdamDid he deserve that much? I mean, was he that big an a-hole?
29:01🔗Jerri MantheyHe was just very condescending, and I don't tolerate that. If someone belittles me for maybe because I'm younger than they are or because I'm a woman, I get very defensive. And he kind of talked down to everyone because he was the eldest male in our tribe.
29:20🔗AdamBut he did the cooking, right? Or he did it half the time?
29:59🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. I mean, I've never been in a situation where I go to bed hungry, I wake up hungry and you crave food all day long and you know you can't have it.
30:07🔗DrewYou didn't get the later part too where they were clearly getting ill. I mean, they were having problems.
30:11🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. When I left, there was one cup of rice left.
30:14🔗AdamWhat about booze and weed? None of that either, right?
30:17🔗Jerri MantheyYou know what? We did get some wine when the tribes merged.
30:47🔗CallerOkay. I don't know. Well, first of all, I want to say, Jerri, I do not want to have mad monkey sex with you and all the other crap people were saying yesterday. I think we should ban that. That's ridiculous.
31:39🔗Jerri MantheyThere's not even a little part of you that wants to try it?
31:41🔗CallerNot a part? Well, for her sake, to a degree, but I'm just like, you know? The first time she mentioned this to me, I thought she was joking, and she's like, no, seriously, because she's got this thing with toys, and we've never used toys before. She's mentioned it, and I thought, well, maybe we could start using it.
32:02🔗AdamI see. More ass-friendly, I would say, than a dildo. Yeah, because a vibrator, traditionally, is much more streamlined. It's sort of the difference between taking the Concord in your ass and a jumbo jet in 747. Yeah, much sleeker.
32:39🔗CallerShe said the idea was the same thing to girls as two chicks together in bed.
32:45🔗DrewYou know what? Listen, women read way too much crappy women's magazines that suggest there's a G spot for the man, achieved, reached somehow through the anus, which is a bunch of BS. And somehow she needs that kind of bizarre arousal in order to get going. Relax. If you don't want to do it, don't do it.
33:49🔗AdamYou don't want it. No. Well, her doctor said she had the anus of a 71-year-old. So it was very high praise. Okay. The whole deal with that area is if something does go wrong, you get no sympathy. You only get laughter from your peers.
34:25🔗AdamI thought I had a hemorrhoid. I lanced both of them myself. Thank you. Yes. No need for the medical profession. All quackery. But am I turning you on? I thought I had a hemorrhoid. Okay. I'd never had one before. My idiot friend Ray had me rubbing Preparation H on my carbuncle for a week. It wasn't doing anything for it. Like 80 bucks in Preparation H. But the point is, is I was working as a boxing instructor, and I had to call into the gym and tell them I couldn't make it. And they went in a wine and I told them because my ass was on fire. And they laughed their ass off, not an ounce of sympathy from anybody.
35:10🔗AdamI didn't want them to think that I drank too much the night before and was hung over. I want them to believe that I wasn't coming in because I actually had-
35:17🔗DrewIn other words, no one is going to use the carbuncle on the ass as an alibi.
35:21🔗AdamNobody uses that. You know what I love? My ass is still sore from my last boyfriend.
35:26🔗DrewWhat I love is that Jerri is going to do all the talk show rounds and here she is on the line talking about-
35:48🔗CallerOkay. So I was wondering, I wanted to get breast implants because I have a 34A, but I can't even fill out the cups because I have a wide rib cage, but I have really small, small breasts, really small.
36:02🔗Jerri MantheyAre you doing it for yourself? Are you doing it to impress a man?
36:06🔗CallerOh, no. No, I don't have a boyfriend or anything, so it's just for myself because it's kind of embarrassing. My boobs are really small. So I just kind of, I would want to know, what are the complications of that kind of surgery?
36:15🔗DrewWell, it's a surgery. It's, you know, people occasionally die from them. There are infections, bleeding, complications of anesthesia. It's a big deal, but it's a common procedure.
37:01🔗AdamAlex? Listen, I know everyone sits around and talks about society and pressures and being a young lady and all that good stuff. But, you know, if you have an A-cup and you're pretty small and you want to do something, you know, it's doable. I talked to Dr. Marcel, who's Dr. Drew's buddy, he's a plastic surgeon guy. He's the guy who wears the pinky ring and the Italian horn chain. That's really the difference between the plastic surgeons and the internist. The plastic surgeons wear more jewelry and have the year-round tan.
37:38🔗AdamThey're the pimps. Yeah, sweat suit. Yeah, the pimps of the doctor world. He didn't say too many good things about the through the belly button technique, by the way. Yeah, just FYI. He didn't have too much good to say about that, probably because he didn't know how to do it, but he didn't have anything good to say about that. But if you're interested, go look around and consult some plastic surgeons and look at their books and all that stuff.
38:05🔗DrewAll right. They take work afterwards too. If you have to encapsulate, you have to prevent them from scarring, they move around, they have to be redone most of the time.
38:13🔗AdamLet me tell you fellas too. I tell guys this all the time. You'd be proud of me. Women think that all guys want is huge jugs, and that is not true.
38:47🔗Jerri MantheyEveryone has their own body preference.
38:49🔗AdamI look at the legs as a stand to hold up the boobs. That's how much I enjoy boobs. Yes. I like boobs and I will not apologize for that. I believe it makes me more of a man.
39:00🔗DrewWell, didn't we have a discussion a couple of nights ago about maybe it being more detached from the person, some other body parts. You know what I'm saying?
39:07🔗AdamYeah. It's a part that's furthest away from the person.
40:38🔗AdamDid you go back and just eat a ton and then vomit?
40:41🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, it was an uncontrollable situation. I remember sitting down my first day at the table, and the woman who runs the ranch made breakfast, and she made exactly what I wanted, a French toast. So I ate like three pieces of French toast, and then she was like, oh, it's lunchtime, and she just like kept bringing food out. I sat there all day and ate.
41:00🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, and I thought I kind of thought I was losing my mind, too. I was like, why can I not stop eating?
41:06🔗AdamThat's called an eating disorder, Jerri. Drew knows something about that.
41:11🔗DrewThere's help that you can get. I've heard of these kinds of refeeding. They do studies of prisoners and things like that that have gone through these experiences. There are people out there that know how to manage that.
41:20🔗AdamYeah, they should have got those people. They should have got those people in there. Your impulse would be to eat everything in sight, but that's probably the worst thing you could do. You probably have to slowly acclimate yourself back into it.
41:33🔗DrewThe fluid and electrolytes seem to be managed as you eat. You should have been having blood tests and things.
41:39🔗Jerri MantheyIt was out of control. In Australia, they cook with fat, full cream and whole butter.
41:47🔗DrewThat might have been okay. But if you get past the vomiting, your stomach is exposed to it.
42:04🔗CallerI have a couple questions. I have been a stripper now for about a year and a half, two years. I just recently started getting into porn movies. I was molested from like six until 16. I used to drink a whole lot. I was 21. I went through AA and all that stuff, which forced me to deal with the molestation issues.
42:36🔗AdamYeah, but it just came out in the form of sexuality later on.
42:41🔗DrewI'm certain people in the program suggested you sort of think about new careers and things like that, right?
42:47🔗CallerActually, I wasn't dancing at the time. I mean, I've only been dancing for like a year and a half.
42:55🔗CallerNo, I am totally drug-free. And at work, I only drink maybe one or two drinks a night.
43:01🔗DrewOkay, well, that's not drug-free, Ron. You're back in your disease.
43:05🔗AdamWhat do you drink in those mini bottles of champagne that some idiot paid 18 bucks for?
43:10🔗CallerNo, I don't work for drinks. I work for money.
43:12🔗DrewBut you're using again. So this is all part of addiction. Sexual abuse plus addiction creates sexual addiction.
43:20🔗CallerWhen I drink, I mean, I drink like one when I first get there, you know, just to like loosen up and stuff. And a lot of times, I drink like mixed drinks that don't have a lot of alcohol.
43:32🔗DrewListen, your drinking is not out of control just yet because you have all these other arousing experiences you're distracting yourself with. It's gonna get going. It'll get going.
43:41🔗CallerActually, I don't even like sex a whole lot anymore.
43:45🔗DrewYeah, we affect you. Usually people in your condition hate men for participating with you in it.
43:50🔗CallerActually, I have so much fun with my customers. It's the whole flirtation. I mean, I can, I give dances and they, you know, I mean, I keep my top off but my bottoms are on.
44:04🔗CallerAnd if I get them in like our little private room and dance, I can make them ejaculate. And it's just, it's so much fun because it's like I'm in control.
44:15🔗DrewBut don't you see that that's just a reenactment of the old exploitation, except now you're in the power position. But men are still really exploiting you still.
44:37🔗CallerI did one like three days ago. And I've done like a couple clips for other people. But now I'm just, because like one of my best friends is like really big into it. I mean, I live on the East Coast. We live on the East Coast and she flies out to the West Coast like every week to do them. I'm just saying a really huge name. But I mean, I'm just now starting to get into the business.
45:03🔗AdamOkay, but you're calling because it sounds like maybe you're going down a path here that you don't want to go down?
45:10🔗CallerI mean, I didn't know if, you know, the whole getting into the porn and all this other stuff was like a way of, because I listen to you guys all the time, like when I come home from work, and I didn't know if it was like, you know, me trying to get out of it.
45:37🔗DrewAnd you really didn't get into the program. You really didn't. If the fact that you can still use alcohol and not understand why that's such a violation of your programmatic principles. I don't do it. Listen, Robin, listen, go to essay, okay? Go to Sex Addicts Anonymous and stop drinking. Go to some program, get a sponsor, work the steps, and see if things don't start changing a little bit. If they don't, if you really want these things to change, you need to get some treatment. There's a place out here in Southern California called Delamo Treatment Center that deals very much with sexual addiction. They do a nice job.
46:09🔗AdamI'm gonna do some guest speaking there maybe next week. All right.
46:19🔗AdamListen, this show has really ruined pornography for me. It really has because I realize behind every movie is someone like Robin. She was molested for 10 years. She's strung out. She's screwed up. I can, it's all I can do to watch porno twice a day now. I mean, that's a good day. Sometimes I'm now down to like one and a half.
47:36🔗AdamYep, Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Drew. Jerri Manthey's our guest tonight. She is from Survivor, of course. And I was reading somewhere that you're doing something for Sports Illustrated. What is that?
47:50🔗Jerri MantheyOh, yeah, I did a photo shoot with Alicia, the bodybuilder for Sports Illustrated for Women.
47:59🔗Jerri MantheyFor Women. Yeah, they just started the magazine. It's fairly new. And we did a really cool shoot down in Mexico. We spent like three days down there in the Sea of Cortez. And it's going to be a great spread. I can't wait to see it.
48:35🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. I mean, they wrote the piece based on what they saw of me on the show, which as people are getting to find out is really not what I'm all about.
49:18🔗Jerri MantheyListen, forget about the labor-wise.
49:21🔗AdamYeah. Acting is not challenging, but the plays are nonsense. Oh, no. We're going to fight.
49:25🔗Jerri MantheyYou're going down for that. That is so not right.
49:29🔗AdamEither you can do it or you can't, and if you can do it, it's easy. But film, you work a few months out of the year. If you do like the Young and the Restless every day, I mean, that's a bitch.
49:41🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. Soaps are a lot of work. They do like 70 pages a day.
49:45🔗AdamYou got to get up at four in the morning.
49:47🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. It's crazy. Go hang out all day. But you know what? It's a great way to hone your craft, because it's the closest thing you can get to theater on television.
49:56🔗AdamRight. Drew has a background in the theater, singing opera, doing musicals, all that kind of stuff. He loves legitimate stage.
51:01🔗DrewA lot of musing and lamenting and carrying on.
51:03🔗AdamHere's my whole thing about opera. Can't they just lament without singing about it? Do they have to sing about every goddamn thing they're doing?
51:35🔗DrewAnd how long ago was the sexual encounter? Yesterday. Okay. Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood, I think, is the best place to go, I agree. Planned Parenthood? Yeah. I'm actually going to Planned Parenthood and speaking in San Diego tomorrow, the big Planned Parenthood organization there. But yeah, they definitely can get it. You can get it from an emergency room. Your doctor can get it for you. It's something that I believe every woman of childbearing age, I know you don't like the idea of being on hormones, but it's something that can prevent a pregnancy. And even if you're not on the pill, it's something that if an accident happens, you've got that as a fallback position.
52:07🔗CallerI hear you guys talk about Planned Parenthood right all the time.
52:10🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, it's a great service for women.
52:12🔗CallerBecause I just imagine some building like Toys R Us or something. But what is it exactly though?
52:17🔗AdamThat's what it is. It's Toys R Us. Birth control and abortion apparatus. It's the same thing.
52:29🔗DrewIt's great. But you can get the morning after pill pretty easily there.
52:32🔗AdamYes. And use protection next time. Would you screwball?
52:36🔗DrewWell, he's thinking about it right. Again, morning after pill, we're not talking about the abortion pill. We're talking about a pill that suppresses the egg from being released. So there's no con... When I was on Politically Incorrect, we had Congresswoman Sanchez from Orange County on. And I was talking about this morning after pill thing. I was telling her, look, this is your issue. And she agreed. She was kind of aware of stuff. Yeah. And I said, you know, the people are lining up against you. They don't want to... The reality is they've taken aim at the morning after pill, but they just don't want contraception. She said, we know that. Oh, really? They are pro birth, not anti-abortion.
53:18🔗DrewThat's just stupid. But what I say, at least that's logical and consistent, because to take aim at the morning after pill, it's to take aim at all contraception. People just don't understand that that's what they're doing.
53:30🔗AdamBut as we've learned from living on this planet, anybody who picks up the torch and fights too hard for any cause is a nut job. The PETA people are whacked out. They don't want the guy to drink his milk in Victory Circle, the Indy 500, because now the latest spin. Are you kidding? Yeah. No, because it's now a racist thing because blacks and Hispanics are lactose intolerant. What? Let me tell you, please, let me, let me just give a word of advice to all people involved with any causes. Please stick to the cause and try not to stay, try not to fray too far to get to the outer fringes where everyone labels you nut cases. Because this is what PETA does. This is what GLAAD will do. This is what the NRA does. This is what all groups do. They start off with a semi-sound, insane sort of agenda. The NRA says, look, we don't want guns taken away from law-abiding taxpayers who want to protect their home and families. You go, no, all right, I'm down with that. And then some guy wants to put some legislation forward that outlaws 50-round banana clips and AK-47s and they're dead set against it. Now you go, okay, nut job. Next? Who's next? Then PETA says, we don't like the idea of them testing harsh chemicals on the eyes of laboratory animals and rabbits and torturing lab animals and mutilating cows and blah blah blah. And you go, yeah, all right, I'm on board with that. Then they go into the guy drinking milk at the winter circle with the Latinos who are lactose intolerant. You go, nut job. Next? And then the next guy comes along and it's the same thing with these pro-life nut jobs. Abortion is bad. All right, we'll agree to that. Somebody comes along with a pill that's going to seemingly limit abortions now. They're against that. Nut job. Next. They're all whack jobs. And the reason they're in the group is because they're nuts. And they're not in it for the cause. They're in it to write letters. They're in it to complain. They're in it because they have some kind of cry that's inside of them. That this is somehow...
55:57🔗Jerri MantheyWell, it stems even into their families. You know, their families get wrapped up in the media process.
56:04🔗AdamOh, yeah. Drew's family is the same with him.
56:09🔗Jerri MantheyIt's just frightening what people will do for attention.
56:12🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it usually has nothing to do with whatever it is they're talking about. You know, they all end up becoming sort of televangelists. Up there yapping fire and brimstone, thumping the Bible, banging their secretary.
56:47🔗My question, Jerri, for you was, on the show, Amber, well, our impression of Amber was that she was basically your puppy dog. She followed whatever you said. She followed your ideas, your ideas for alliances, stuff like that. Did you manipulate her on purpose to do that or did that just kind of happen on its own?
57:07🔗Jerri MantheyI did not manipulate her at all. She just befriended me because I kind of took her under my wing and she was-
57:17🔗But see, to us, it seemed that it was more than just a friendship. It seemed like she really looked up to you and like, you know, she was just always there for you, always listening to you and just always said, you know, sure, whatever you say, Jerri, whatever you want.
57:30🔗Jerri MantheyWell, you know, again, I was the proactive leader at times and it was her strategy possibly just to stay as close to me as she could because she saw me as someone who was going to go far in the game, but I never manipulated her. She was like my little sister out there.
57:48🔗AdamWe had- Call her Jerri? Yes. Jerri told us that she manipulated her intention during the break. She was laughing and blowing cigar smoke the whole time.
58:00🔗Can I ask you if she manipulated anyone at all? I mean, do you feel like you play with anyone's mind?
58:14🔗Jerri MantheyIf you make it part of the game, yeah. But for me, it was about being honest with people. And it pissed some people off and other people stuck with me.
58:23🔗AdamBut did you have a strategy going in? I mean, did you study, for instance, the other Survivor tapes of the other episodes of previous season? And did you think, okay, this is a good idea? Or was it day by day?
58:37🔗Jerri MantheyWell, my original strategy was just to create an alliance as quickly and as aggressively as I could before anybody beat me to the punch. And once I did that, then there's other things that happen that make you have to reshape and reformulate your plan. So from that initial strategy and achieving that goal, I had to work on a daily basis. Who was in your alliance? I approached Mitchell first. Then we approached Colby, Tina, and Amber. Because we needed five to be a majority.
59:07🔗AdamYou know, I was just picturing myself on Survivor. Day 29, not remembering three of the guys' names.
59:56🔗All right, I know that you sprung for the womb of construction. You've done your fair share of manual and skilled labor. And you are in fact a bona fide millionaire.
1:00:04🔗AdamYes, I'm literally a millionaire. Literally, literally, literally.
1:00:09🔗But to use a couple of your words, lay off the junior colleges, you screwball.
1:00:36🔗DrewWill they usually go on to four-year colleges quickly?
1:00:40🔗Well, one that didn't go on to four-year colleges quickly. My mother went through nursing school in the 70s, got an AA and an RN in nursing. Late 30s, she went back to UNLV, did a couple years of pre-reqs for med school, got accepted at 42, matriculated at University of Nevada, Reno from 42 to 46, and is now an OB-GYN.
1:00:59🔗AdamHold on, I can't write this fast. Keep going.
1:01:02🔗DrewBut I think your point is well-taken, Keith, which is that people that don't may not have funds or have had training. Yeah, access, maybe some happened in their life where they didn't get prepared for colleges.
1:01:15🔗AdamOnce in a while, the stars align and somebody actually graduates. Yes, I will not argue with you.
1:01:21🔗I will talk in my nuclear family. My fiancee, my mother, myself is an example. Yeah. My fiancee went to a junior college in the East Bay area, then transferred to Cal. She graduated 4.0 plus to Macomb lobby and walked over into Bull Call.
1:01:40🔗DrewThe other thing, Keith, is that junior colleges in the East Coast are actually prestigious on the East.
1:01:44🔗AdamYes. Those I have not checked out personally.
1:01:47🔗DrewThey are not the hacky sack, pot smoking, power bar ingesting, skip school for surfing.
1:01:53🔗Adamhigh school with ashtrays. Look, here's the deal. I'm never going to argue that no one has graduated or got anything from a junior college. The percentage, the batting average is dreadful. I would say for every 500 people that pass through the doors, one guy walks out and goes off to another four-year university. Here's the reason. If you ain't cutting it in high school, you're not going to cut it in junior college because it's high school, except for you don't have to show up. I think we turn all these things into labor camps or prisons and really start getting our money back. They already got the fence around them. They're constructed much like prisons, many of them. It's just a big waste of time. Just everyone should go to work who's not going to college. Who are you kidding? People waste it. I have friends who are still in junior college. They're literally in their 17th, 18th year of junior college. Get out. I swear to Christ. I went to LA Valley Junior College for like 20 minutes and I just realized, look, the whole reason you weren't cutting it in high school is you brought the same brain to this place and you're not cutting it here. I just think people should go out and get a job or go to regular college. It's just a waste of time. Let's face it. Thank you. And Drew hates them too. Thank you very much, Drew. One day I'm going to find out how much money we waste on these so-called institutions of learning and then I'm really going to be outraged. Danielle, you're 22. What's up?
1:03:19🔗CallerI read in a book not too long ago that if when your boyfriend or husband or whatever is performing oral sex on you and he blows air up there, it can get into a bloodstream and it can kill you.
1:03:30🔗AdamWhat book were you reading? This is junior college. You go to junior college?
1:04:01🔗DrewYes. And there is access to... Under significant pressure, if somebody really blew in their heart and enough air got into the venous system, the veins near the ligaments of the uterus, there is a possibility that could go to the lung and cause an air embolus. It has happened, but in the entire history of humanity, it's probably happened once. It ain't going to happen again.
1:04:24🔗CallerIt doesn't do that, but sometimes when we're having sex, air will just start to come out.
1:04:29🔗DrewThat's fine, Danielle. It's normal. Do not worry. People would be dropping dead all over the place if any little air made any difference.
1:04:35🔗Jerri MantheyQueef, I think that's what she's talking about.
1:04:37🔗AdamYou'd be like a serial killer in college, Drew, one of those women you've got. Danielle?
1:05:11🔗AdamThey blow up the hot water bottle. Yeah. Right. That kind of move. I missed by the way, there used to be like Strongman displays where they take the hot water bottle and they blow it up, pop that, take the telephone book, rip it in half. Robert? Never saw that Jerri?
1:05:33🔗CallerI have a couple of questions for Jerri. The first one was, what would be your ideal acting role as of right now? What are you looking for?
1:05:43🔗Jerri MantheyWell, I mean, I definitely would prefer to work in film.
1:05:52🔗AdamIt's so much easier, though, just for the hours. Easy.
1:05:57🔗Jerri MantheyWow. I think people actually are getting ready to see me play the villain in something. So I think I'd almost like to play the exact opposite of that and throw everyone off.
1:07:01🔗DrewBecause she felt, it wasn't apparent to me that actually it happened that Kelly violated some trust or something. I couldn't even figure out.
1:07:08🔗Jerri MantheyBut I mean, she was ready to backstab her in the same sentence. So no, I was never tempted to do that. No matter how angry I got at everyone out there, no matter how betrayed I felt, I, you know, I got class.
1:07:21🔗AdamRight. All right. Interesting that there's been two. Chick and a gay guy have won so far. So it's like chick and a half have won. But no guys. No dudes.
1:07:45🔗AdamYeah. Maybe not all the physical aspects of it, but the strategy aspect of it.
1:07:50🔗Jerri MantheyI don't know. I think it goes against everything female. But it's not nurturing. It's not kind.
1:07:57🔗AdamBut let me offer this up. Guys are a-holes. They're pretty readable. But don't you think women in general, growing up, they're a little more clickish, and they have their friends in high school, and they talk about that. There's a little more of a mind for that.
1:08:18🔗DrewI'm watching my daughter since kindergarten. That stuff goes on. The boys could not care less.
1:08:24🔗AdamThe guys want to play sports and hang out and fart on each other.
1:08:27🔗DrewThey want to be the right other and play kickball at lunch, and that's it.
1:08:29🔗AdamBut their mind isn't working in terms of like, who's dating who, what they can do about it.
1:08:35🔗Jerri MantheyI mean, I definitely agree. Women are a much more difficult sex to deal with, even as a woman.
1:08:42🔗AdamI'm just saying, they may have a mind for that kind of strategy.
1:08:48🔗Jerri MantheyYou might have a point there. I never really thought about that.
1:08:51🔗AdamIt'd be interesting if this show went on for ten years to figure, you know, to sit back and look at the sexes that won. I'm guessing just chicks and gays. You know what? That's where the smart money is.
1:09:05🔗AdamWe'll take ourselves a little break, and we'll be back.
1:09:11🔗CallerLove Line will be right back, so get your problems ready. Ready.
1:09:41🔗CallerThis is Pamela Lee, and you're listening to Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:09:47🔗AdamYes, you is. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Jerri Manthey is our guest tonight. She, of course, is from Survivor, and Binder and Sports Illustrated, the woman's version of Sports Illustrated, out in June. In July's issue, Young and the Restless on Memorial Day. Is it? Yeah. And maybe, Playboy? Possibly. Never know.
1:10:15🔗AdamIf the money is right. But it's not for the money. But if the money is right, I'll see her there. Shannon? Yeah. You're 20? Yeah. What's up?
1:10:25🔗CallerHi. I had a question for Jerri. Okay. Yeah. I had a question about Deb. Well, everybody found out that she was going to marry her son-in-law. Did you guys know that while she was on the island?
1:11:05🔗CallerYeah, everybody, it seemed like the last show, like everybody felt sorry for her, but I mean, do you feel sorry for her that, I mean, she's going to marry her stepson?
1:11:16🔗Jerri MantheyWell, I know she's technically not going to marry him because legally there's some issues. Yeah. And it's, you know what?
1:11:25🔗Jerri MantheyIt sounds a little, yeah, there's something, I'm not sure. But I mean, it is a little bit strange to me, but I'm not judging her for it because obviously, this man makes her very happy and apparently, when she was married to his dad, there was no son-mother relationship. Like they weren't around each other.
1:11:45🔗AdamYeah. Well, that does make a big difference. Listen, you should feel sorry for him, not her. I'd like to get a hold of this guy and have a little conversation with him. Think about the guy. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I mean, you could make an argument for her being whacked out, but this dude is 31, she's 55 or what's going on? What are the age differences?
1:12:10🔗Jerri MantheyI think he's like 35 and she's like 40, something like that. It's not that extreme.
1:12:17🔗AdamIt sounded better when I did my age thing though. It was worse. I'd still like to talk to him. You think this is what dad wanted? Dad down in hell, looking up at you. They never say it that way.
1:12:32🔗Jerri MantheyHe actually said in an interview, he said, my dad would want for us both to be happy.
1:12:37🔗AdamYeah. They always do that one. They always do that.
1:12:44🔗AdamI'll have this cot, I'll soak with gasoline and just be waiting for you when you come on down.
1:12:48🔗Jerri MantheyYou know what though, I have a lot of sympathy for her just because of the things she's been through, and she has stood up for me left and right.
1:13:05🔗AdamThat made a difference. Why is she standing up for you?
1:13:09🔗Jerri MantheyBecause she understands what it's like to be completely ripped apart by the tabloids, as well as being called all kinds of names that are unnecessary.
1:13:18🔗AdamYou know, I was thinking when you were talking about the tabloids, and you know, maybe this sounds naive, but I don't know what's going on out in the world, really.
1:13:28🔗Jerri MantheyThat's what I was wondering. Yeah. Except when you go to the grocery store and you find yourself looking at yourself in the magazine and some huge title says, you know, Jerri eats men alive sexually or Jerri has sizzling sex diaries that were found.
1:13:47🔗DrewWe don't read about our stuff. We don't read good or bad, you know what I mean? Yeah.
1:13:53🔗AdamIt's nice if you don't read good or bad. I mean, listen, if I saw a huge picture myself at the supermarket, I might be tempted to pick that thing up.
1:14:03🔗Jerri MantheyYou could try and hide from it, but like I said, you go to the grocery store, you look over and you're like, oh my God.
1:14:08🔗AdamYeah. You don't have the genetic predisposition to ignoring your own crap that Drew and I have.
1:14:17🔗AdamI'll tell you, one of my dad's favorite...
1:14:18🔗Jerri MantheyI found it entertaining after a certain point.
1:14:20🔗AdamOh, well, if you don't mind. One of my favorite dad stories is I was at a grocery market with my dad. He was checking out the magazines while I was paying for some groceries. He was just killing time. He picked up a magazine that had an interview with Adam Corolla from Loveline on the cover. He picked it up. I saw him looking at it. He was looking at it for a few minutes. He was kind of examining it. I could tell he saw my name on there. He was kind of looking at it. He looked for a couple of beats and then he slid it back. He turned back around and he said, Are we ready to roll? I said, Dad, did you notice the magazine with my name on it? He said, Yeah, yeah, that's you, all right.
1:15:17🔗AdamIt's very good. Oh, Drew has them too. Drew comes, first off, Drew has been in a movie or two, has not seen any of them, does not even know the title of the, what was that movie we were in with Brooke Shields?
1:15:37🔗Jerri MantheyWell, there you go, that's why. If there was a challenge to get in it, you would have definitely been.
1:15:41🔗AdamI don't think you would have done that either.
1:15:43🔗DrewWell, yeah, if it's something you really sought out, you'd, you know, you'd want to be a part of.
1:15:47🔗Jerri MantheyIt's a part of your job as an actor to watch.
1:15:50🔗DrewWe didn't know what the hell we were doing when the film was rolling, when the camera was rolling, like, what is this again? What the hell, what are you watching? Remember that?
1:16:01🔗AdamAfter Sex is a Brooke Shields movie or something. I don't even know. But let me tell you, Drew, real fast everybody, Drew will come in here, do this show from 10 to midnight and will be on Politically Incorrect that night and not say a goddamn word about it the entire two hours of the show. It has nothing to do with modesty. I don't think he remembers and doesn't think the plot.
1:16:35🔗Jerri MantheyHe's married. He can't be hollow.
1:16:36🔗AdamEmpty, hollow shell. A broken, broken down shell of a man. That's true. Every every every nerve ending has been cauterized. He has no pulse. He has no feelings. Ice water in his veins, if in fact he has veins at all.
1:16:54🔗Jerri MantheyAre you going to sit there and take that?
1:16:55🔗DrewNo, I'm just trying to think how much of that is accurate.
1:18:31🔗CallerNo, no girl involved. I got the idea off of a like masturbation news group like five or six years ago. And I, you know, got this crazy idea to try it.
1:19:20🔗CallerLike kneel down and then you hold it with one hand, holding the front with the other hand.
1:19:24🔗AdamRight. But isn't that, isn't working that butter churn in your ass and whacking off, isn't that a lot like patting your head and rubbing your stomach? I mean, I would find that challenging.
1:19:46🔗CallerThe main problem is that it's kind of messy. You don't really want to...
1:19:50🔗DrewRight. It's a little bit of effort for a minor improvement. And it's in something that already is sort of about as good as it gets. You know what I'm saying?
1:19:58🔗AdamRight. But let me explain how a lot of guys look at sex and or masturbating. You take these race cars.
1:20:05🔗DrewIt's a car, yeah. That's exactly the right analogy.
1:20:08🔗AdamAnd they put them in a wind tunnel. They will spend a million dollars for every two miles an hour they pick up on the track and extra G of downforce. You know what I'm saying? Because they're that highly conditioned.
1:20:24🔗DrewAnd every male deals with his masturbatory habits.
1:20:26🔗Jerri MantheyHe tries to find the ultimate experience.
1:20:29🔗AdamWe're all looking for that masturbatory edge. I think I found mine in high school. I don't want to talk about it on the air. I'm scared the competition is nipping at my heels, Drew. Drew, do you want to talk to someone before we go to break?
1:20:45🔗DrewIt was a good one to go to break with.
1:20:52🔗CallerWhat's up? Oh, I've been trying to call you guys forever. Okay. I have been seeing women, being with women and everything. And I want to tell my dad. I want him to know because he knows everything about me.
1:23:13🔗DrewJust remember, the one thing I would say though, is that the extent that you have difficulty perceiving reality, it's usually the issues of the past coming to bear in the present. All men are not hateful.
1:23:25🔗CallerWell, every man that I've ever like.
1:23:27🔗DrewI understand that's how you experience it.
1:23:34🔗DrewThe experience of the past coming to bear in the present distort reality a little bit. You shouldn't be a lesbian. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying they'd be hateful of a whole gender suggest all some.
1:23:44🔗Jerri MantheyThere's some really wonderful men out there.
1:23:46🔗CallerI mean, I'm not. I just don't like to have a relationship like with a man. That's fine.
1:23:50🔗Jerri MantheyDo you have any male friends?
1:23:52🔗CallerJust friends? My best friend is a man.
1:24:06🔗CallerNo, I love him. He's my best friend. But it just wouldn't.
1:24:11🔗DrewNo, no, we're not. We're not saying you should test your sexual orientation. We're not saying that. We're just saying that that hatred may be a little bit overdone.
1:24:28🔗AdamListen, any guy you're going to choose is going to be a bad guy at this point in your life anyway. So it's not going to be a coincidence, you know, when you say that every guy you've been with has been an a-hole. Of course, you chose them and you're not in the position to choose anyone who's not an a-hole at this point in your life. Okay listen, everyone please stop acting out constantly. Your life just become one big acting class. Just stop it. Just look, you're pissed at dad or you're pissed at stepdad or whoever did what to you. Fine. Get some help, get some therapy. You're an adult now. Read a book, work it out. Stop just acting out. Okay, we'll be back. Yep, Loveline, everybody. Jerri is here from Survivor. And so is Adam and Dr. Drew, who have no interest in doing a show like that. I would fold like a card table. Like a taco, immediately.
1:25:57🔗AdamNo, and you know the thing, you know, every time, ironically, the show is on at 8 o'clock and most people just finish dinner and sit down and watch it. And you know, when you're full, it's like, ah, honey, quit complaining about the rice. You'll be fine. You know, but I'll tell you, just skip breakfast and lunch that next day and see what kind of mood you're in.
1:26:24🔗Jerri MantheyThat's what I would tell people.
1:26:31🔗AdamYeah, I'll tell you, in terms of mood, sleep, deprivation and and food are probably in the top three or four of things that will alter your mood for the worse.
1:26:47🔗AdamAnd it's basically if you're if you're if your fuse was five feet long with a full belly and eight hours sleep, it gets down to six inches long.
1:27:07🔗CallerOkay. First of all, I just want to say that I really respect that you aren't afraid to speak your mind and be 100% honest. I think that shows a real sign of strength. And thank you. Okay. My question was, I was wondering if you were surprised at all when your alliance turned against you and voted you off. I mean, did you see it coming or were you just like, Oh my God, I can't believe they did this to me.
1:27:29🔗Jerri MantheyI actually did sense it coming because that morning I had a little bit of an outburst.
1:27:34🔗Jerri MantheyAnd, you know, there's a certain dynamic that changes when you're about ready to get voted off because I did it to other people as well. You start to distance yourself from them. And, you know, the person will walk up when you're in the middle of a conversation talking about them. And the place kind of goes silent. And I just kept sensing those things happening to me all day. So I saw it coming. And I told Amber, I was like, I don't think I'm going to come back tonight. Please make sure if someone gets my bongo drum to me.
1:28:03🔗AdamYeah, no going back to the camp to get the bongo.
1:28:05🔗Jerri MantheyNo, no. I had to get one of the producers to get to me.
1:28:09🔗AdamCould you have brought the bongo drum with you to the fireside, Chad?
1:28:14🔗Jerri MantheyWell, the hike there was so grueling and dangerous that...
1:28:19🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, carrying a bongo drum with you.
1:28:20🔗DrewYou don't really get that feeling watching it.
1:28:22🔗Jerri MantheyHow long is the hike? Well, they would drop us off at the top of this canyon, and then we'd hike across these rocks. It took like two hours. Really? Yeah. And it was probably the scariest part. Why?
1:28:36🔗Jerri MantheyYeah, there was rocks that if they were even slightly slippery, you were like walking on ice. And then if you slipped and fell, you'd fall into some rapids and get dumped over a huge waterfall. I mean, you really begin to feel like they just, you know, they're just hoping something dangerous happens because it would make it more interesting.
1:28:52🔗AdamDid you, and do you have the feeling that, like we were talking about this earlier about them not having doctors, you know, present when you were voted off and went back into civilization, for lack of a better term. Did you, do you have the feeling that they wanted something spectacular to happen, that that would have been, you know, even bigger ratings for them and that everyone had signed off and they had no legal obligation to the person? Not that they wanted someone to die, but that the ratings if someone took a spill down a hill.
1:29:27🔗Jerri MantheyIt can only help ratings if someone.
1:29:29🔗DrewHow about the guy who fell in the fire?
1:29:45🔗AdamYeah. I saw him get airlifted off, but then I didn't know. I couldn't remember if he came back or not. No. There's the problem with that show. All the guys growing beards, they just turn into one big white guy with a beard. They all look like Santa to me.
1:30:13🔗AdamOur pubic area, leg, armpits. Yeah, you couldn't get it all that stuff, could you?
1:30:20🔗Jerri MantheyFor me, it was an issue. It bugged me.
1:30:21🔗AdamBut it didn't really show up on camera, did it?
1:30:25🔗Jerri MantheyNo, it didn't. It really didn't. Thank God. Because everyone else had really fine baby blonde hair. Right. Did you guys wax before the show? We could have, yeah. I know some people did. But that's something that you have to kind of prepare for.
1:30:42🔗AdamYeah. I mean, the waxing, that would come back too. All right, Maggie. You good? Thank you. Thank you. Let's talk to Brad over here. She was nice. Brad. Yeah. Hey, what's up?
1:30:59🔗Yeah, I'm very gay. Stop that. This is my issue. When I was 14 years old, I started modeling as a male model and I moved to New York. And I was working for a really reputable agency. And my agent, when I was younger, I had long hair and everyone thought I was a girl. And my agent booked me for a job. And at the job, they ended up having me model as a woman instead of a guy. And my agent saw that I was getting more work as a woman than I was getting work as a guy. I started working as a female model. My whole portfolio, all my comp cards were done as a woman. And a lot of clients did not even know that I was a man. Because I had pulled off everything.
1:31:40🔗Jerri MantheyWhat was your name as a woman?
1:31:42🔗I'm not going to say my name because my name is the same name as my real name. What the deal is, I actually quit modeling about a year ago. Now I live in San Francisco. And I still dress up as a woman all the time because I'm really, really, really drop dead gorgeous as a woman. But what the issue is, is there was just a competition about eight months ago. It's top ten female illusionists out of the entire world. It's a big competition. It's called Miss Continental or Model Search 2000. And they bring female illusionists from all over the world and they compete and they represent their country.
1:32:17🔗AdamWhen you say illusionists, see I thought you're talking about magic. That's what I thought.
1:32:21🔗AdamI mean female illusionists mean female impersonators.
1:32:24🔗We're not drag queens. We're female impersonators. So we all competed and I actually won first place. And I also won two additional awards, Miss Photogenic and Best for Runway.
1:32:53🔗CallerBut my point now is, is now that I've gotten some type of recognition that yes, I am a beautiful woman, and I feel that I'm a lot more attractive as a woman than I am as a guy. As a guy, I'm just this average skinny...
1:33:03🔗AdamI'm not gay, but I like to F the hell out of Bryant just based on his own recommendations.
1:33:10🔗CallerSo what the question is, is I have some friends that I actually got to know through the show that actually competed. And they're now transsexuals, which means they were born as women. Yeah, yeah. For a year, then they had to complete sex.
1:33:26🔗CallerWhat I'm interested in, though, is living part of my life as a woman because I feel that I'm much more attractive.
1:33:31🔗AdamI see. All right. Listen, we got to take a break. Here's my thing. Brad is a mess. Brad, stop worrying about why you're so good-looking or how you can be so good-looking as one gender or another.
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