1:14🔗VoiceoverIt is the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, that's my partner over there, Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. And tonight our guest from Felicity, we have Amanda Foreman and Greg Grunberg. Sorry about that, Greg.
1:55🔗GuestI was in here by myself and I made you do the Dr. Drew rap. I made you play that and I made you do the whole bit about the Russian kid that you used to babysit.
2:07🔗DrewThe Russian, not the Russian kid you used to babysit, the Russian rapper.
2:10🔗AdamWe should score some holes. Team, the 13-year-old, 300-pound, white as a ghost, Russian rapper. Yes, yes, yes. Well, maybe we'll bring team out. The team, team, team, team. We'll bring a team out before the show is out. And maybe also hear a little Dr. Drew boogie, maybe even some Dr. Drew shuffle. That'd be great. That'd be great.
3:02🔗DrewYou know what I mean? If you're involved in something, you gotta be doing it before it's a sure thing. I don't mean you specifically, it's not a sure thing.
4:01🔗GuestYeah, somebody makes a breakfast burrito for you. You get there. Right. I take about an hour and a half in makeup because I'm a girl and I wear a lot of makeup. And Greg takes about fifteen minutes.
4:10🔗DrewBut they still make Greg get there when you get there. So he sits, has breakfast, waits an hour and a half. No.
4:15🔗GuestNo, I get there about... No, I get there about half an hour after.
4:59🔗AdamProbably filming for an hour of that time. Maybe two.
5:03🔗GuestMaybe two. Yeah. Just about two. For about five minutes of screen time.
5:08🔗AdamYeah. But the thing that I like about your gig is you can go back to the trailer or go back to the omelet bar. Just tell them to call you when they're ready. Totally.
5:18🔗AdamAnd if something falls apart, if the script isn't right, if something's not right, if there's a breakdown in a piece of equipment, none of your business.
5:30🔗GuestYou're always blaming others. If they get the omelet wrong, I can throw a fit.
5:34🔗AdamRight. And now, are you bringing a material home, the script home, that night and really working it out, or you just figure your work that beats out when you get there?
5:42🔗GuestI work it out the night before. Otherwise, it's a disaster. Really? I get nervous and I don't know what I'm doing. I just fall apart.
5:54🔗GuestIt's pretty important on our show to stick to the script. It's not like, you know, whose line is it anyway? I mean, we got a script and we really got to know what we're doing. So...
6:19🔗GuestIn Japan, apparently, you get off in the subway and there's just like a hundred of those camera machines. So I had deals. I was trying to get the Burbank Airport. I had Maternity War waiting rooms. Oh, yeah. You know, you need film, you need camera.
6:32🔗GuestBy the way, anybody wants to buy the machines, they're for sale. I can't get rid of them. I don't have time to service them and do them. They're beautiful.
6:38🔗AdamDon't you have some sort of flunky brother or nephew or something?
6:45🔗GuestNo, no, I have a great, very talented brother. I have a friend that I was in business with, but he's been successful in another business, so...
6:54🔗GuestDave is my partner in the camera vending machine business. You've got some spare time, man.
6:58🔗AdamI do. I like to man some of those vending machines.
7:01🔗DrewThis would have been Uncle Lou's break for you.
7:04🔗AdamYeah, growing up, I would have liked to have known a guy who was an entrepreneur who had something, just some crappy job in front of the sleep my way.
7:42🔗Drew.the television distribution. The people like flocked out of the office. The yogurt guys here. Yeah. What the hell is that?
7:47🔗GuestYeah, it's pre-packed in a cooler on a cart and these guys would wear aprons and green hats and say, yogurt runners, and they'd go in, like they'd go to like an agency like CAA, very famous, whatever, and they'd go to the mezzanine level and everybody would get on their computer and say, yogurt is here. They'd send their assistance down. We'd sell 80 yogurts in five minutes. The person would get back in their car and go over to ICM.
8:08🔗AdamWhere were they fill up on, where were they, where was the main yogurt distribution center?
8:13🔗GuestBelieve it or not, in Watts, I took over an old Popsicle factory that was there and just started pumping out the yogurt. So I would drive there early in the morning. I would not stop, I'd just keep driving. And I'd get there and...
8:24🔗DrewAmanda apparently didn't know this about you.
8:32🔗GuestYeah, it was great. So many friends too. I mean, they were working. You can only sell, you don't sell yogurt in the mornings. You sell in the afternoons between two and five. So it's a great job for an actor who can audition in the morning.
8:42🔗DrewI wonder what the hell happened. It was good yogurt.
8:44🔗GuestIt was really great. But it's very tough to keep these people, you know, the salesman, the sales people.
8:53🔗AdamYou're climbing that yogurt ladder. You're moving up it pretty quick.
8:56🔗GuestWell, here's a very quick story. This is just to tell you the mentality of these people. I'm driving somebody and I was just about to drop him off and he bumped his head before he got in the car and I looked back and he's screaming. He's got the dry ice held up on his head to try and stuck to his head. Yeah. So this is the type of person that was working for me.
9:13🔗AdamDrew, just a quick safety tip. If you get dry ice stuck to your skin, you just dump water on it.
9:22🔗GuestIt wasn't. Well, it was wrapped in a brown bag so he was able to pull it off. But it was like when I was watching a Jim Carrey movie where his tongue was stuck to the thing.
9:32🔗AdamJudith. Judith. Caller goes by the name of Judith.
9:56🔗CallerI have this problem. Me and my fancy have been together two years. And in the beginning of our relationship, I would project outcome to the point where we would soak our bed.
10:27🔗DrewWell, Xanax can do it. You want to be on pretty good size doses, like three milligrams a day, something like that. Yeah. By the way, that's a huge dose.
11:31🔗AdamI like your normal self, where you drag your ass in here, plop down, and sort of prop your chin up against the mic and try to catch a few scenes.
11:39🔗DrewI'm still in a hive from last night. That was a good show.
11:50🔗AdamSo, in your life, have you had orgasms without the projectile orgasm? Yes? Okay, hold on a second. It's going to be a real long night. I don't know what it is, and I think it's the full moon. It's everyone is talking sort of simultaneously, but no one's being rude. It's just there's something about it. She's answering me before I'm done asking the question. I can't hear what she's saying. Sandy?
12:54🔗AdamAlright. So, okay. So, what should she do?
12:57🔗DrewYou gotta talk to the doctor who's prescribing the medicine. That's a huge dose of Vanax. There may be something else that can give you, that is not a typical side effect of the Xanax, but it certainly could be in those doses, alright?
14:02🔗GuestWell, I like this guy and he's 17, turning 18 in September and we've been friends for about five months and I want to go out with him but my mom thinks he's too old and it's too big of an age difference and stuff but we want to know what Dr. Drew thinks.
14:42🔗DrewYeah, what's going to happen, Brittany, the strange thing about life is you're going to turn 18 and look back and go, oh my god, that guy would hang around with 15 year olds. What a loser.
14:52🔗AdamWell, wait a minute. Let's talk about grades.
15:00🔗AdamNope. Your mom may have a point here. See, here's what I will do. I will shave six months to a year off if they can meet toward the middle in the grade department.
15:11🔗AdamSomebody who's 15 could be in the 10th grade. This guy could have flunked the grade or whatever. He could be a senior and she could be in the 10th grade. I would go along with that.
15:20🔗AdamNinth and senior is tough, especially with me, because I'm old school and my school went to ninth grade and then you went to high school. So there's a big cutoff between the ninth grade and the seniors. But as I've said many times on the show, I wonder about the wisdom of taking now the ninth graders and putting them in high school, because everyone in the same high school is fair game. I will think about it.
15:43🔗DrewI think the freshmen though are dealt with as younger, really substantial.
15:46🔗AdamBut nowhere near when they were in junior high.
17:06🔗CallerHe gets good grades. He gets along well with his mom. He's involved in school. He's got a job. It's just, I mean, he's focused, you know, but my worry is that he's going to be leaving high school and starting a new life.
17:50🔗CallerBut my concern basically is the age difference. I mean, her biggest worry is, you know, what am I going to wear to the next football game? And he's worried about college.
17:59🔗DrewYeah, no, this is not... You've almost sold him in terms of him being a decent guy, but he really is not... They're in different places in their lives. It's... These things...
18:44🔗DrewYou think this is dog years or something? It starts accelerating as they get older?
18:48🔗AdamDrew, you can't make that argument. First off, you're talking about a child at 12, pre-puberty.
18:54🔗DrewNot necessarily. At 12. Not necessarily.
18:56🔗AdamAll right. Listen, retard. We all know that women mature faster than men. This guy's got spiked hair and he's going to junior college. Emotionally, he's probably 15 and a half or 16. There are many women that are further along and more mature than guys at 15 than they are at 18. Than a guy at 18. This is not like her dating a 12 year old. That's a different situation.
19:20🔗DrewBut the maturity that the women are manifesting are different than the...
20:19🔗AdamThe guy's been hanging around for five months. He hasn't laid a hand on her. Bad feeling about the guy?
20:23🔗DrewAdam, how many times were you detailing vans and mowing lawn with a whole plan in your head? None of you would have been given half a chance if they held still. God knows what happened.
20:33🔗AdamMy plan was to cry and masturbate simultaneously and I achieved it just last year.
20:39🔗GuestIf this guy wants to take care of some vending machines for me, that might work.
20:43🔗AdamListen, you got to give her a little space to grow there, though, mama.
20:49🔗DrewI actually want to date the guy. I can't object to that, but this is her boyfriend. What do you think she's talking about?
20:55🔗DrewI'm just going to get going with him as a boyfriend.
20:57🔗AdamOn the other hand, mom is going to give her an eating disorder. Not at this age. Never in too close. All right. Let's take ourselves a little break. How about that? When we come back, we're going to speak to Tanya. No. No? We'll speak to Charlie. His friends make fun of him because he wipes his ass between his legs. Oh my God. What? Isn't that where your ass is? It's between your legs.
21:52🔗AdamYes, it is. Dr. Spru over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Amanda Foreman and Greg Grunberg are both here tonight. From Felicity, everybody. Nine o'clock, W-W-W-W-W-B, Wednesday nights. And when we left off, we were gonna talk to Charlie.
22:43🔗CallerI was reliving the glory of a duke that was just excellent. I was just talking about it with my buddies, and it slipped out that I wipe between my legs, and ever since, man, they've just been teasing me about wiping between my legs, and I've been joking around about calling the show. They're like, call, call, call, ask Adam. So what do you think about that, Adam?
23:05🔗AdamWell, I don't agree with it, but I want to do a little investigation here.
23:11🔗DrewDoes it go into one of your aptitude tests?
23:13🔗AdamWere you raised? No. Were you raised by women?
23:24🔗AdamI see. What's he like? He wasn't around during the wiping phase, right?
23:28🔗CallerUh, not really. Probably from when I was like four years old.
23:32🔗AdamYeah. See, you can tell your kid, you can teach your kid how to tie a bow in a screwed up fashion, like my dad learned, where he ties half a bow and then he takes the other one and he actually threads it through. This is some bizarre retarded thing that only Corollas could think to do because they had to figure out a way to take an hour to do everything. And he's 70 years old. He still ties a bow like a retard, you know? So if somebody screws you up early, your mom could have given you a little potty training, taught you the reach-through technique and then that's it. You're in.
24:06🔗CallerI think that the reach-through technique is a little better because the angle of attack there is a little better, you know? But when you go around the back, it's too far.
26:06🔗GuestCan I ask something? To little boys, is it true that, like, their moms have to wipe them for kind of a good number of years? Like, I've been at my friends' homes.
26:29🔗DrewThere's tons of parenting that is an issue of the parent, not the child. It's like parenting is about getting them individuated, helping them.
26:39🔗AdamI'll tell you, Drew, how about that bidet toilet seat I got? That'd be good for a kid, wouldn't it?
26:49🔗GuestWell, you got a big wet spot on your face.
26:51🔗AdamYou got to dab off before you pull the trousers up.
26:54🔗GuestNow do you dab off from the front or from the back?
26:57🔗AdamI'm back. The interesting thing about my dabbing process, Drew, not that I like to reveal too much about myself on the show, but I'm a left-handed guy. I'm righty with the paper.
27:07🔗DrewOh, nice. Very nice. It's not really dabbing. It's sort of schmearing. Isn't that what you... Smearing. Smearing, yes.
27:19🔗AdamI'm telling you, I'm going to New York in a couple of weeks. I'm going to stay at the Regal Royal. And I swear to God, I told my assistant today, book me on the floor with the squirting toilet seats. That is my floor. There you go. That is why I go to that hotel. Beautiful, beautiful squirting toilets. Justin? Yeah. You've never felt fresher as a man. You're 20. What's up?
27:42🔗CallerI got this problem with premature ejaculation. It seems like every time that I'm getting going or about to put it in, it's like I'm done before I'm even starting.
28:11🔗CallerA little bit, but most of the time, I was good for about one to five minutes. But then other times, I'd have these freak nights where it would go on forever.
28:19🔗DrewWell, you need to learn to figure out what makes that all happen and master all that. Because it's not like it's, geez, these are random events that will never happen again. There's something going on here in your system. You've got to figure out how to get control over that and master it.
28:32🔗CallerI've tried. I've read up a few master-mate more beforehand. You won't be as prone to it. I haven't found anything that really alleviates the problem.
28:41🔗AdamSo those nights, you did nothing different than you did any other night.
29:00🔗DrewYeah, well, your partner can be re-tested at six months and then they're clear. Do you wait that six months?
29:05🔗CallerYes. Usually, I wait a good three, four months before I do anything with them. All right.
29:08🔗GuestBut plus, if you use a condom, it might help because it lessens your sensitivity and you might be able to hold out longer because you're not so sensitive. I'm a girl, I'm saying this, but is this true? Because there's three men in the room with you.
29:19🔗DrewNo, no, it is, and some, but most of these guys, though, the, there's actually a cream, I'm telling you about that cream right now, that they're starting to study, but mostly it's masturbate more.
29:30🔗AdamRight, but, you know, Justin, here's the deal, there's certain guys out there that are in the top 10%, they go whenever they want for as long as they want, and then there are guys who are in the bottom 10%, and then there's the 80% that's in between. You happen to have gotten a bad hand dealt to you, probably because God hates you, and he puts you, I'm just playing a hunch.
29:54🔗DrewBut in the standard of natural selection, the one that can unload his seed the quickest is the one that gets it.
29:59🔗AdamYeah, that's great. Tell that to all the fat chicks, too. Oh baby. Yes. You convert that Snickers bar into 20 pounds a lard. You are so blessed by nature. Have fun at home crying on Saturday nights.
30:13🔗AdamGreat, Drew, you'd be great with those people. Wait, so you're in that bottom 10%, so you gotta work on it, and the best way to work on it is you gotta get in a relationship and work it out. Just one woman, get your confidence, get your stamina, and that's it. It ain't gonna work if you just have a succession of one-night stands or short relationships.
30:32🔗CallerWell, I haven't had a whole lot of that. There was one girl where it kinda lasted longer, but she was a little looser than most people.
31:02🔗AdamSaid he puckered up and he said, this is a woman when she's like 12. And then, I waited, but when he got to the face with the woman at 18, I humped his head. I dropped my pants, I jumped on the console, I raped his mouth. It was great. No, he did that. He puckered up and then he opened it up a little more and he opened up a little more.
31:23🔗DrewHe was telling after each subsequent child.
31:25🔗AdamNo, he was not doing it, Drew, he was not doing it after each subsequent child. He did it at like 12 and he did it at like 16 and he did it at like 21. And we got into, you know, what about children? And they did kind of go around in a little bit of a circle about that one. And they did agree that it does loosen you up a little, so to speak.
34:23🔗CallerYeah, I'm sure he's not on medication. He claims that he had a vasectomy like four years ago. He claims that that's the reason, but I've never, ever.
34:32🔗DrewThe reason what? That he has to have to go down on you for three hours?
34:36🔗CallerWell, no, like when it gets to penetration, that he claims that that's the reason why.
34:39🔗DrewWell, that's not what you're complaining about. You're complaining about everything that goes before that.
34:43🔗CallerYeah, but 45 minutes of penetration is a little too long too.
34:48🔗AdamWell, it's especially long after three hours of oral sex.
35:42🔗AdamWell, Amanda, you need to tell him what you want from him, and if he gets hostile or weird about it, it's okay to get out.
35:50🔗DrewYeah, then he is flawed. If you can't have a conversation with someone you're this intimate with about basic issues in the relationship, and he can't tolerate a real discussion about what's going on in your emotional lives, right, it's game over.
36:03🔗AdamYeah, yeah, and I know, I know it really sounds, it just sounds like sour grapes when I'm trying to, I'm trying to really assassinate a guy's character as going down on a girl for three hours, but there's something so wrong with this guy. Oh yeah, there really is. It's great, you know, it's such a fine line and we get into it all the time, which is, it's, you have to want to satisfy your partner. That's, that's a great attribute to have as a, as a male or a female. But when it becomes an obsession, when it becomes satisfying them for your sake, not for satisfying them on your terms and on your terms and they don't even enjoy it anymore. Yes, it becomes ridiculous. Sorry, Drew's going to retrieve the piece of paper I threw, so he can flick it more and make more noise off the microphone. We will take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we're going to speak to Jack. Jack is 16, wants to know how to get rid of a latex rash on his penis. We'll talk to him after this. I'm Adam Carolla, that's Dr. Drew over there. Greg Grunberg is here tonight. Amanda Foreman who just got off just got done wiping through the legs, right?
38:11🔗AdamYeah. I don't think I ever met any of them Go-Go's. No wait a minute. We've had a Go-Go or two on here. No, that was a... Who was that? David Allen?
38:21🔗GuestAre they all together? The original Go-Go's? Are they still?
38:23🔗GuestNo. My boyfriend's ex-girlfriend actually plays bass and sings with Kathy Valentine.
39:10🔗DrewOkay, well, get yourself some over-the-counter cortisone cream, like Cortade, something like that. See if that clears up. It's probably a latex allergy, but if it becomes more sort of intense, you might have to see something about it.
39:21🔗AdamI got that really powerful stuff you can get now that's one-tenth of one percent cortisone. Says it right on the thing in big letters. So now with.004 percent of cortisone.
39:52🔗GuestDid you wipe from the front while you had one of those on?
39:54🔗DrewPolyurethane. Jack, you might want to try polyurethane next time. Polyurethane. Okay? All right.
39:59🔗AdamWhat's the price difference with a polyurethane?
40:01🔗DrewNo idea. I think they must be comparable. Must be.
40:04🔗AdamPolyurethane. Well, wouldn't you think there are more, a little more just because they're not quite as available? They just make them in smaller numbers. Possibly. Why wouldn't everyone use those? Are they not as good if you don't have the rash?
40:17🔗DrewI don't think they're quite as comfortable.
40:19🔗AdamI see. I like to tuck my nuts up into them too, just to get a little extra streamlined action going. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and you get that pendulous effect, which can hurt you sometimes if you shift gears mid-section, as all do.
40:33🔗DrewWas it you that invented the mudflap? The nut mudflap?
40:37🔗AdamWhere does it go? Behind the nut or in front of the nut?
40:42🔗AdamYeah, with Yosemite Sam saying back off on it. Holding those pirate musket pistols. Two pistols. That's right. What do I do? I could have invented that mudflap. What do I do with that thing?
40:56🔗DrewWell, it's to protect, you know, because some of that stuff can splash onto the testing. Oh, right.
41:12🔗CallerWell, I've been smoking pot since I was about 15 years old. I'm just kind of wondering. I've been trying to quit consistently forever. I just can't seem to do it. I'll go for like a month. I'm just kind of wondering what the effects are if I keep smoking pot. I did all the other drugs when I was younger. I quit doing them.
41:44🔗DrewYeah, yeah, because that's what distinguishes addiction from non-addiction. If you're not an addict, stop. If you're an addict, you have to be treated. It needs help to stop. It will not stop by itself. And in fact, once you cross that threshold for addiction, not only will it not stop, it will progress.
41:59🔗CallerWell, is it a bad thing if I don't quit? I mean, I like smoking pot. I don't know. That's my whole problem is I like it.
42:06🔗DrewThere will be lots of consequences on your life, and you can just start counting them.
42:16🔗CallerWell, I've been sober for about four or five days, but when I'm doing it, when I, I don't know, like five times a day, six times a day, I don't know.
42:27🔗GuestWhat do you not like about reality that makes you smoke pot so much every day?
42:31🔗CallerI don't think it's that. I don't know. I just like smoking pot.
42:34🔗DrewHe just loves pot. And that's the way marijuana addiction goes. The first time they get high, it is such an intense euphoria. That's all they can think about from that.
42:41🔗GuestBut you're in a different mindset than the rest of the world when you're high. When you're stoned, you just want to stoned.
42:47🔗CallerWell, I think, I don't know, is it maybe because I've had some tests done about ADD. Is there a chance that it might have something to do with ADD? Because maybe I still, I don't know.
42:56🔗CallerI feel more comfortable when I'm stoned.
42:57🔗DrewAll addicts have ADD. All addicts feel more comfortable when they're high. That's why they do drugs. It feels better. But you're an addict now. It's time to get treated. You're not, you're gonna have, addiction is defined by its consequences. And the consequences will begin to mount and get worse with time. Now if you want your life back, you're gonna have to do something about this. Which is more important, you're getting high or having a life. That's your choice.
43:22🔗AdamAll right, Zach. What do you do for a living?
43:27🔗AdamGod damn it, I was about to say works at a skateboard shop. I would have been making a joke though. Well listen, you stop smoking weed, they make cannula. They have very strict drug enforcement policies over there. Yeah, they test every Monday. If they don't find urine in you, if they don't find any weed in your urine, you're out.
43:49🔗DrewYeah. They got to have something to recycle too.
43:51🔗AdamYeah. Really, he is in risk of, he's putting his career at risk. Really, I hope you realize ramifications of your suggestions before you just go blurting them out over the air for everyone to hear. Erin?
45:48🔗GuestNo. Yeah. Okay. He knows I'm not in love with him, my husband, and everyone close to me knows that I can't get that feeling for him. And my parents pressured me very heavily.
46:07🔗AdamAll right. Erin, hold on a second because we got to go to commercial break. Okay. Do you have any kids?
46:14🔗AdamGood. Keep it that way. We're going to work this out for you when we come back. All right? Get it all fixed up and we'll hunt the guy down who had sex with you when you were 13. We'll have him put down. Okay? All right. Hang on there, Erin. Okay. Take a little break. We'll be back with Erin.
46:51🔗AdamIt is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew. Amanda Foreman is here. And Greg Grunberg is also here from Felicity. Nine o'clock WB on Wednesday nights. And we do-
47:04🔗GuestAnd by the way, Tuesday night, I'm on NYPD Blue.
47:35🔗AdamI've done a few things involving scantily clad women myself via The Man Show. And you know, they always interview those celebrities and they go, Oh, what was it like doing this love scene or being around these women? And they go, well, the cameras, the grips, the crew, you can't focus. Nonsense. I enjoy it. I enjoyed it.
47:54🔗GuestDo you know anyone who has business meetings at a strip club in the middle of the day? Because it seems to happen a lot on television.
48:01🔗AdamOn TV they do. And I know whenever I go to a strip club, they have that like businessman's brunch where they serve. It's always funny, too, when they get a little crazy. They're like, try the Linguini and clam sauce and stuff. Like I'm going, hey, the Linguini and clams aren't good at the Italian place. How goddamn good can they be at the strip club? I guess it's all a little better at the strip club. Oh, yeah.
48:25🔗GuestThey taste better when there's naked ladies.
48:27🔗AdamBut it is really funny when they have the lunch special or the brunch or the bottomless salad bowl at the strip club. I always wonder who's in there at those hours. It's funny, like, you guys ever been to a, like, there's a Denny's in Hollywood off of Sunset that me and the construction guys used to eat at once in a while before we went into work, like meet there at 6 a.m., get the Grand Slam, and then head over to the job site. They got a bar there, and the bars close from 2 a.m. to 6 a.m., I believe is when they open up. It's weird seeing dudes waiting to get into a bar at 5.57 in the morning.
49:20🔗AdamI mean, could you imagine? What would you be like?
49:22🔗GuestAre you sure they're driving into work?
49:24🔗AdamWell, a lot of these guys are wearing suits, and they haven't been up all night. They're getting a jump. Have a nice bloody Mary at the Denny's.
49:34🔗GuestIs that the Denny's just west of like Highland?
49:45🔗AdamYou're 21. Well, you see the pimps, the hose can't be far behind. Exactly. So we were talking to you when we left off. Your mother introduced you to this guy when you're very young, 12 years old.
49:58🔗DrewSo she could work. Where was your dad, by the way?
50:34🔗GuestUm, that's what I was going to say. My parents were so angry and hurt and devastated that they pressured me and pressured me until I caved in and ended up putting him in jail.
51:42🔗DrewNo, they just idealize them. They believe in this fantasy that they're going to go off into the sunset and get married. I mean, every single 14-year-old, 13-year-old who has sex with an older guy clings to that fantasy.
51:54🔗AdamWhat got you two apart, inevitably? Was it him going to jail?
51:58🔗GuestNo, actually, my current husband asked me to marry him and I felt duty-bound to accept his proposal.
52:28🔗AdamNo, but how did it get to the point where he asked you to marry him if you were in love with a guy when you were 18 and he was 26, 30 or whatever the hell he was?
52:38🔗GuestI spent a lot of time with my friends and he got to know me that way.
52:43🔗DrewI don't think you're asking the question right.
53:05🔗GuestDid you stop seeing him because he went to jail? Was it because he went to jail that's when you stopped seeing him?
53:11🔗AdamNo, they stopped. That's what I keep trying to get to and we can't get an answer from Erin, which is she sent him to prison later on, correct?
53:30🔗AdamOkay, so maybe you weren't so in love with him. I mean, I wonder if you're more dissatisfied with the guy you're with now than you are in love with this criminal.
53:45🔗AdamYou know, maybe you're not into your current relationship, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean you're into this old guy.
53:52🔗DrewAnd also, to whatever extent there is remnants of some attachment to the old guy, it's built on fantasy, and you've got to really start addressing reality here.
54:01🔗AdamWhy don't you get out of the relationship that you're currently in?
54:04🔗DrewThink about it. It's a guy your age having sex with a 12-year-old, Erin. Think about that. You want to have sex with a 12-year-old?
55:06🔗AdamYou need therapy. Therapy, therapy, and more therapy. You were traumatized, severely traumatized by this guy you claim to be in love with, who really brainwashed you, and is really just a flawed, flawed individual and criminal. Okay? Number two, if you're not in love with the guy you're currently with, you have no children with him and you don't want to be with him, get away from him.
55:34🔗AdamAnd get, start off with some therapy. Don't go back to the criminal, don't focus on him, focus on the relationship that you're in, and focus on a relationship with a therapist.
55:45🔗DrewAnd you're so, you're so tightly, she's so tightly bound in with her parents, that's why she can't do anything on her own.
55:58🔗GuestIt sounds like a cult thing going on or something.
55:59🔗AdamIt sounds like it. It's, it's, she was, she, Erin, I felt, was arrested when this guy got her at, you know, 12, 13 years old. That's where she is now.
57:22🔗DrewYou can have problems urinating, you can have erectile dysfunction, all kinds of good stuff.
57:28🔗CallerAnd like my great uncle, he died from it because he had it like on like the left side of it and they cut it off where it was cancerous. Right.
58:47🔗AdamAll right. I don't usually get a chance to talk to them, but we're taping a show on Wednesday. I'll barge in to the dressing room and see if I can get some answers.
58:58🔗AdamGood times there, Scott. Yeah. All right.
59:00🔗DrewNow, Amanda, I want to hear a famous moment in Loveline history. Which is? You've got that, Anderson. The Pennywise's last appearance. Okay, go ahead. Oh, here it is. This is when Fletch. That's him vomiting. Now listen. So everyone's scattered around, runs away from him. And he's starting to get up and vomit on people. I'm pretty much. This guy grabs the mic. Listen.
59:33🔗DrewThat's him vomiting. Leaning over people. He's got 6'4.
59:52🔗GuestYou guys are still in here at this time?
59:55🔗DrewI was not. This was a few many years ago before. A different studio. I was in the studio, and he was particularly interested in vomiting on me. And he chased me into a corner. I got up on some shelves. Adam had actually built in the studio, and was punching him in the face to stand him up, because he kept leaning over on me and vomiting on me.
1:00:43🔗GuestI thought maybe he'd like drugs. We only drink a bunch of beer and it's all liquid, so it's not...
1:00:47🔗DrewAnd he was sitting right there, eating, it took a big piece of pizza. All of a sudden he looked at us and just sprayed the whole thing, and that's where that little piece began.
1:02:48🔗AdamTrying to figure out if he has a premature ejaculation problem. She states that, well, after he's done, he's done. Then I call her a tard and try to refocus the question and it gets to him having oral on her.
1:03:32🔗AdamNow, people like to think of that as being stupid, and I won't argue with them, but the thing that I object to most about that is there's hostility woven into that. Yeah. Because she can articulate herself perfectly when she has a question and or a problem. But as soon as I ask anything of her, it shut down and it comes across as confused and stupid. But there's a little sprinkling of anger in there, isn't there?
1:04:00🔗GuestShe sounded angry with her boyfriend.
1:04:03🔗AdamAll right. So, Jamie, you hang out on hold for about 30 minutes. And then if I'm in a good mood, we'll come back and talk to you and then probably hang up on you. Sarah? Sarah?
1:05:25🔗AdamIt says her 19-year-old boyfriend got her pregnant and they had a physical fight. So that would lead us to gamble. But the voice, I didn't read the screen, I just heard the voice and started reaching for the wallet. Well, when we hear women especially, almost exclusively actually, who chronologically are in their 20s, but sound is if they're in 9, 10, 11 years old, it means there's some trauma, something happened, and they're usually locked in about that age. Just like the person we talked to a few calls ago who was having sex at 13 with a criminal, she was 23, but she was tracking like a 12, 13 year old. She didn't sound it in her voice, but that's where mine was at. Sarah, I just got the voice and decided to do some gambling. All right, we haven't done this in a while, so here's what we do, we gamble on the past. Not on what's going on today or tomorrow, and not what went on six months or a year ago, but what kind of environment did young poor Sarah 21 come up with?
1:06:58🔗AdamAll right. Now, hold on. Just do a little quick gambling. All right. I'll go. Who wants to go? No, no, no. Do you want me to go first? It's not an advantage. Believe me. Okay. I'm going to say, young voice, it says she got in a fight with her boyfriend. There's some physical abuse. Sounds like a good plan. Chaos, alcohol, dad's part. Come on.
1:07:29🔗AdamIs that enough? When? Sometime in her lifetime. I'm going, I'm going, young, is seven, six, seven years old. The physical abuse was on mom most of the time. Just got to her. Just got to her sometimes. All right.
1:07:47🔗GuestGreg? I'm going to wait. You go ahead.
1:08:11🔗AdamInteresting. Interesting. I'd like to get rid of the dad too. I'd like to say he cut out.
1:08:15🔗GuestWell, I was going on, you can't do that. Once you take your hand off the mic. You're right. I'm going to say that the father wasn't around. And yeah, I think she's been chasing this idea and possibly trying to win over the man. I think he left when she was six. And now that she's six and a half, I think that she's starting to have emotional problems. That's what I think happened is the father left when she was six.
1:08:38🔗DrewI think we're going to hear, but everything was great, everything was perfect, everything was fine, we're going to have to dig.
1:08:46🔗DrewThen when we dig, we're going to find that all of a sudden around nine, something exploded with a lot of chaos and maybe even violence around drugs or alcohol or something, so dad's gone.
1:08:57🔗GuestSomething? There's money on the table.
1:09:00🔗DrewDrugs and alcohol. Drugs and alcohol. Nine, he's out.
1:09:19🔗GuestWell, I just found out that I was pregnant by my boyfriend, and I'm 21 and he's 19, and I don't know if I should keep it or not. I don't know if I'm just going to keep him from growing up, and I don't think I'm ready.
1:09:36🔗AdamUh-huh. You say there was a physical problem? You guys got in a fight or something?
1:09:41🔗GuestYeah, we did. I used to hit him a lot. I had a lot of anger, so I used to hit him a lot.
1:10:58🔗AdamHe wasn't. He tried to get back in your life, but did your mom not let him back in? I mean, why couldn't he get back in your life?
1:11:06🔗GuestBecause he had promised my mom that we were going to go and move to New York with him and stuff like that, but we didn't know that he had another wife. Wow.
1:11:22🔗AdamWe really need to talk to some parents on this show to get to the bottom of some of this stuff. And you got involved in an abusive relationship with one of your boyfriends?
1:12:13🔗AdamOf course it does. Now it's starting to... See, did it just come into focus a little bit there? Yeah, absolutely. When did stepdad come into the picture?
1:12:21🔗GuestHe came into the picture, let's see, I think I was like in fourth, fourth or fifth grade.
1:12:46🔗Guesthe would say, oh, well, my sister and I, you know, we were from my dad and he would say, oh, well, they're not my daughters. I don't have...
1:12:53🔗CallerI don't want to have anything to do with them.
1:12:55🔗DrewWhen he got into your family, did things kind of erupt right when he arrived? I just... I get a sense of things kind of...
1:13:01🔗AdamWhat are you laughing at? Well, he was okay at first and then started. Did he physically beat you kids?
1:13:08🔗GuestYeah, he would hit my sister a lot and he would... he would throw things at me.
1:13:13🔗DrewHow old were you when that was all happening?
1:13:32🔗AdamListen, we're running late for breaks. Listen, Sarah... It's a push. We did get... It is so funny and so predictable that we all got where's the violence, where's the alcohol. You're talking about your dad, he moved to New York, he wasn't around, he didn't hit anybody, he didn't seem to have a substance abuse problem, and everyone was dumbfounded over here. And then when stepdad came into the picture, our picture came into picture.
1:13:55🔗DrewAnd by the way, moms don't suddenly develop a relationship with alcoholics. They consist of it. So first dad was not alone.
1:14:01🔗AdamSo Sarah, a lot of chaos in your life, no place to bring up a child. Right?
1:14:07🔗GuestIf you're hitting your boyfriend, you shouldn't be hitting anybody.
1:14:11🔗AdamHow about you give the baby up for adoption? Give the baby a chance or you get that abortion like Amanda once, like Amanda's been praying for. She's rubbing her rosary saying abortion right now.
1:14:24🔗DrewLooking at some treatment for trauma recovery, because you've got a lot of stuff going on, Sarah. A lot of these relationships are merely manifestations of the history you've had.
1:14:31🔗AdamAll right. Let's, I can't believe nobody. Okay, we're going to take a break. We'll be back.
1:14:47🔗What's up? This is Aaron from Stained, and you're listening to Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
1:14:53🔗AdamYes, you are. Hold on, Amanda, let me explain something about radio.
1:14:59🔗GuestI am part of America, so I'm just as dumb as the listeners.
1:15:01🔗AdamThe show stops at a certain point and then it starts again.
1:15:10🔗GuestMy life is so full it bleeds onto the air.
1:15:12🔗AdamI blame Drew for that. I really do. Amanda Foreman is our guest along with Greg Grunberg, both from Felicity. Wednesday nights, nine o'clock, www. We should score some holes. Nice. We should score some holes.
1:15:29🔗GuestThe reason you thought of the Russian rapper, Team the Russian Rapper was because when I said I was in a band called Teen Machine, you said that was like, it sounded like the Russian rapper saying, Tin Machine, David Bowie's band.
1:15:45🔗AdamDavid Bowie was in a super group called Teen Machine. He was in his glam rock phase. He dyed his hair. It was a tone of blonde and he wore these suits from, I saw them in, what is that show with Don Johnson in it, where he drives that.
1:16:14🔗AdamSuddenly he's Italian. He would say Miami Vice correctly, but he would just, he would, he would hit the wrong Subos. He goes, he was in Miami Vice. It's important to mispronounce words that you, even that you pronounce correctly. That's the thing about being foreign. You have to screw up almost every word.
1:16:34🔗GuestHow old is that guy now? He's old now, right?
1:16:42🔗AdamNo, team would be 24. That's it? Let's see. Team was a team. He was probably 13 when I was in that Catholic Big Brother organization. That was good 7, 8, 9 years ago now. He's probably 22, 23, something like that. Where does he live?
1:17:05🔗GuestIs he old enough to hear the show? Sorry, I know you keep going to press that button.
1:17:11🔗DrewHe's probably the Russian Maughan. Now he's back in Moscow.
1:17:14🔗AdamYeah. He's probably working some underground thing somewhere in Russia. Are we going to hear the Dr. Drew shuffle a ramp before the night is through? Let's not forget that. We did promise that. We'll hear the boogie at some point tonight. Allie?
1:17:36🔗CallerYeah. I have a question. I'm a virgin and I think that me and my boyfriend are going to like have sex soon and I'm kind of scared. I mean, I want to, but...
1:17:53🔗DrewWhy don't you wait till you really want to? Make sure it's something you really want to do.
1:17:56🔗CallerNo, I do. I'm just scared it'll hurt or anything.
1:18:25🔗DrewThe point I was going to make is not so much the pain as there's a great, it's easier to make it comfortable than it is to make it enjoyable first time or a positive experience because it's not necessarily going to be a great experience first time around.
1:18:38🔗AdamBut let's do the math. First time around at 22 it ain't going to be cramps and giggles either. So you might as well get it over with and get to the fun.
1:19:28🔗AdamHold on a second. We have to talk about you behind your back. I can't figure out if she's being sort of coy and that he's listening and she's embarrassed and that she really does love him but that she's shy about it or that she isn't too into him and is not quite sure what to say.
1:19:44🔗GuestYou know, it sort of sounds to me like she wanted to hear that it's extremely painful. She's looking for an excuse, in my opinion, to not do this.
1:19:51🔗AdamWell, that's true. I mean, if you've been with someone for over a year and you're 17 and they want to do it, what the hell are you calling us for?
1:19:58🔗DrewYeah, exactly. She sounds terribly mature. Very good point. Allie?
1:20:28🔗AdamOkay. So why are you calling us and asking us?
1:20:32🔗CallerWell, I'm just kind of scared and I was wondering if there was any way to make it like less painful or anything.
1:20:38🔗GuestAnd make, just talk to him about it. That's something between the two of you and he's, if he's, if you really love him and he loves you back.
1:20:49🔗GuestLube. Lube. It should be on a bumper sticker somewhere.
1:20:52🔗AdamAll right, Allie? Okay. You just take it slow. Yeah, just play it slow with each other. It's not like a rollercoaster that you buckle in and can't get off of, you know? I mean, if something starts and it's not going the way you want it to go, you can stop. All right? All right. All right. Boy, she did not sound 17 at all.
1:21:17🔗DrewSo that's why I was going down the discre- no, you shouldn't be doing this.
1:21:20🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we talked to 17 year old women all night long that, you know, they sound like nurses from Korea. You know, they're like seen at all. You don't know what it's like to have a man die in your arms. You know, that kind of stuff.
1:21:37🔗AdamOld man, he's in prison right now. I'm strung out on heroin. I got four kids. This was 17. It's like thinks the world's flat. Yeah. Still waiting for Santa each year. Cooking cookies by the fireplace. Nicole.
1:22:01🔗GuestOh yeah, I was with this guy for a year. I loved him. I can't answer if I was in love with him, but I loved him. He was like my best friend.
1:22:43🔗DrewYou're fine. You're excellent. You have good instincts. You know what you want. You're healthy. Relax. Just because guys want certain things doesn't mean necessarily you're ready for that. It's fine. You'll know when you're ready.
1:22:55🔗AdamYeah, it's not like the guy who hosts the National Radio Show or something. You don't have to do.
1:23:01🔗GuestWell, you may be smarter than you're giving yourself credit for. These guys may... You know, sometimes guys are looking for one thing and when they get that thing, they're not... They don't want to stick around necessarily.
1:23:12🔗DrewAnd although you're not a virgin, you may understand the implications of being physically intimate with someone and that was maybe painful for you or maybe tense for you. And yeah, you're trying to be more careful this time around.
1:23:52🔗AdamThat is so... Yeah, it's so weird. All right, listen. Nicole. You gotta get a little therapy for that molestation. That's a big deal in your life.
1:24:03🔗DrewIt wouldn't hurt, of course, but I think, you know, just realize you've had a trauma. It's put you sort of make you kind of vigilant, made you sort of careful, and that's good. And yes, it was a very painful experience, unpleasant experience. You maybe don't trust men, and it's also not such a bad thing. Just be careful, that's all.
1:24:20🔗AdamListen, everybody, that's a good thing. I mean, you walk through a... You take a certain way home, you take a shortcut through an alley, some guy jumps out and kicks your ass. It's a good instinct as a human not to cut back down that alley again. That's what we have. We all have that. It's a good thing. Animals have it. We have it. It keeps us alive.
1:24:45🔗AdamTrust it. Please. Okay. We're going to take a little break.
1:24:49🔗GuestProbably one of the scenery chairs in my mind.
1:24:54🔗AdamCan't you read the sign? We're going to take a little break. I'm going to speak seriously to Amanda about her off-microphone commentary and behavior and commitment to this show. And we'll be back.
1:25:15🔗AdamBoy, do I love this riff. Amanda Foreman and Greg Grunberg are both here tonight. They are from Felicity, which is on at 9 o'clock, as you know, on the WB, Wednesday nights. And Greg can be found on NYPD Blue, starting tomorrow night.
1:25:33🔗GuestTomorrow night, and then for three weeks, the last three episodes of the season. Big cliffhanger involving myself and Mr. Rich Roeder.
1:25:42🔗AdamHe'll be the guy sitting in the Nudie shop.
1:25:45🔗GuestIn the Nudie Club, yeah. And they really use nudie women.
1:25:51🔗GuestThey're naked. I couldn't believe it. NYPD Blue is all about showing. Yeah, well, you see Dennis Franz's ass, so you can see these women. But they have little pasties that they put on. But basically, they're naked.
1:26:03🔗AdamAre they pasties that you're supposed to see, or are they supposed to look flesh-colored?
1:26:07🔗GuestThey're flesh-colored, and they're just covering the nipple, which I never got. It's like, what is that? Is that little aerial?
1:26:14🔗GuestIs that going to really change things if you see that?
1:26:17🔗AdamWell, you have to understand that censorship is not a science. Right. And it's not really based on anything. So you're going to run into tons and tons of stuff that doesn't really make any sense.
1:28:09🔗GuestWe were friends for two years before we two dated.
1:28:11🔗DrewBut during those two years, he was planning and plotting. He was like in a war room.
1:28:15🔗AdamHe jacked off an ocean to you before you even got together, I guarantee it.
1:28:21🔗GuestBut don't you think it has less to do with whether she's in love with this guy than with she can't even do it on her own? And that's really...
1:28:27🔗DrewA lot of women can't do it on their own because if they don't, yeah, I know it's hard for them to understand that, but if they don't, aren't having an intimate experience, it doesn't make sense even if they can't do it.
1:28:35🔗GuestBut girls do. I mean, they're four years old and they're not having an intimate experience.
1:28:39🔗AdamWell, listen, here's what we're dealing with here. We talked about the top 10% and the bottom 10%. Unfortunately, with women, the bottom 10% don't have an orgasm. Doesn't matter about the tub, doesn't matter about the vibrator. And at 20, this may not come around for a few years. But being with a guy that you're not in love with really is going to slow things down. And Elizabeth, and just because we can't take a call where we don't criticize, they call her to some degree. Elizabeth here is a little out of touch with herself and with her relationship.
1:29:48🔗GuestHe literally worked from eight o'clock in the morning till three thirty in the afternoon and then six o'clock till two o'clock in the morning.
1:29:54🔗DrewAnd you asked him to go out? He said, I'm sorry, I can't.
1:29:56🔗GuestNo, he asked me out on a date and I told him he didn't have the time. He's kind of old.
1:32:22🔗AdamDrew, you wear that big hubcap medallion you used to wear in the early days. Bring that in and those huge glasses of yours and a big clock you wore around your neck and Felicity, everyone. Nine o'clock WB Wednesday nights and you can catch Greg on NYPD Globe for the next three weeks. Tuesday nights. And until next time, I'm Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
1:32:43🔗DrewYou're going to drag the Duke across your nuts.
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