4:53🔗VoiceoverPhone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number, 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medic, and a doctor.
5:06🔗VoiceoverI'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number, 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medic, medicine specialist, and a real hobnobber with the stars, Donald Trump and who else?
6:13🔗AdamNo, I'm looking to drop dead, so come on out and witness the spectacle that is me dropping dead on stage in San Diego to celebrate the anniversary of Dick Shawn dropping dead.
6:24🔗AdamAll right, you want to talk about anything? We'll get right into it. Katherine LaNasa and David Allen Bashe is here tonight from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday nights at 930. Show replaced, what show did this show replace?
6:40🔗GuestDidn't replace Third Rock, I'll tell you that much.
6:42🔗No, it didn't. They moved some things around.
6:45🔗GuestThey replaced the Michael Richards show.
7:27🔗AdamYou know, I was saying to someone today, while I was listening, actually Friday night, I was listening to the radio and someone, it was like a snippet from a TV show and I go, listen buddy, I could buy and sell you. And I thought, you know, the sell part, not a big deal. It's really the buy. They should leave the sell right off of that. Like put an item in there, like I could buy that rolls.
9:14🔗GuestWhen I was growing up, we would talk in hush tones about neighbors that didn't drink. No, seriously. It would be kind of like, they don't drink. They were kind of strange.
9:23🔗AdamYou had regular jobs there. Did they pay in beads those jobs?
9:28🔗GuestNo, but people will do anything for those beads, won't they?
9:30🔗AdamOh, yes. Oh, yes. You know, one thing you don't hear about so much, probably because the tourist board isn't excited about it, is that street, that Bourbon Street, about 2, 3 in the morning, it gets fairly gamey out there.
9:48🔗A lot of urine, a lot of vomit, a lot of sweat, a lot of spilled hurricanes and beer.
9:54🔗See, I don't get it. There's a beautiful tourist campaign right there.
9:57🔗AdamThe entire street is wet, and plus it's always, it's always 100 percent humidity. So these beads drop on the ground on occasion, and if you're not paying attention, and you're standing out on a balcony, you can get hit with a handful of gutter beads, which will leave like a tire track across your face. Like I said, a mixture between a hurricane urine, fecal matter, beer, sweat.
10:43🔗CallerI had sex a week ago, and I keep creaming, and I can't stop. Even when I'm not having sex, it'll go for 15 seconds, and then it'll stop, and then it'll go again.
14:44🔗DrewThe problem is that bleeding even a week or two out can be an ectopic pregnancy. So you got to be careful if she gets any abdominal pain or if the bleeding seems abnormal. It's too late to take the morning after pill now.
14:56🔗GuestYeah. They wouldn't let us do it because she didn't have an appointment. We tried but they're not open until Monday.
15:04🔗AdamYeah. We have a great plan as a nation. Let's keep those gun shows nice and legal. Meanwhile, let's make it hard as hell for a teen to have unprotected sex to get hold of the morning after pill. It's just a great look down the road. You know what I mean? It's great planning for our nation's future. We got to get to Canada.
15:22🔗CallerIf we could get a pill for the last call, pill to simulate what the last caller had, there would be a lot of women that would take that.
15:54🔗And it was fabulous. Actually, it's not so much a question I have. I'm glad that I followed this call. Actually, I just started an organization called emergencybirthcontrol.org and it's just to raise awareness about the morning after pill. And I've been listening to Loveline for so long and it's still amazing how little people know about it and what misinformation is out there.
16:14🔗DrewAnd God bless you. We are ready to back you up.
16:18🔗AdamAs long as it doesn't mean leaving the house.
16:20🔗DrewSo it's emergencybirthcontrol.org. That's the website.
16:24🔗That's the website. And as of yet, we are not incorporated, but we are working on becoming incorporated as a non-profit. But so far, basically our goals are just spreading awareness in university centers especially because I am a student at UCLA in my last year and I've even kind of contacted pharmacies around here and pharmacists are completely unaware of it.
16:44🔗DrewListen, I am, you know, we got your back, you know what I mean, we are on board with this.
16:48🔗AdamYeah. I'd like to see your front too as long as we're covering you. You know, I was just watching the news tonight and they were talking about these gay bars in West LA having to have mandatory pamphlets on safe sex and fish bowls filled with condoms and all this kind of stuff. It seems, and I was thinking to myself and I thought, listen, these homos don't need to know another thing about AIDS. They have had an ass full of AIDS, pardon the pun. That's going to be the name of my band, Ass Full of AIDS. But the point...
17:27🔗AdamBut the point is, is we don't need to deal... Let's leave the homos alone. They know all about AIDS. They know all about condoms. They know about the risk and everything. What about the morning after pill? Why don't we focus? Where is the direction for this? We're busting our ass to get the condoms at gay bars, for Christ's sake.
17:47🔗CallerCollege campuses are great, but the last two callers were 15 and 14.
17:52🔗Ultimately, I also work for a very prominent rape treatment center, and we do education regarding sexual assaults and sexual harassment and everything like that. And we actually have programs that go into middle schools. We could incorporate something like the morning after pill in those kind of educational programs. It would just be such a service. And this is kind of a shameless plug, I'm sorry, but if you could announce it on Loveline, the website...
18:18🔗DrewBut you're talking on Loveline right now.
18:20🔗Yeah, I don't think it's actually getting through in Los Angeles.
18:23🔗DrewI think it's broadcasting again. They're back on the air now.
18:25🔗Oh, really? I'm sorry, I don't have a radio.
18:28🔗DrewNo, they're back on the air. The lightning hit the transmitter at K-Rock in Los Angeles.
18:31🔗AdamYeah, that's bad karma from all the DJs doing drugs for all those years. That's God's wrath.
18:37🔗Yeah, and also if you would be able to look at the site and give us any kind of feedback.
18:41🔗DrewYou know what, I did look at it just before I came on the air and I would add one thing. It's a great site. And the only thing I would add is you bring up a little bit about the phase in the issues of when conception occurs and that kind of thing. And you point out that other products cause similar kinds of disruption like the copper tea and whatnot. But don't forget Celebrex, Vioxx, the normal birth control pill, they all have potential of interfering the same elements of the cycle leading to conception and implantation.
19:09🔗AdamHold on a second, Drew. You looked at the site before you came on the air?
19:12🔗DrewYeah, Ann had it up. I just looked at it real quick for you.
19:15🔗AdamOh, because you saw the call that was on hold?
19:17🔗DrewShe said there's a call here about this look at the site. You look good. And I looked at it and I looked good.
20:03🔗DrewNo, not this time. And they keep the judges away and we all go out for dinner. And Donald Trump owns the operation. So he sits here, Martha Stewart's like here.
20:12🔗AdamWhat kind of vibe did you get from these people?
20:15🔗DrewMartha Stewart is delightful. She's exactly who you, she's Martha Stewart playing Martha Stewart.
20:19🔗AdamYeah, but she seems like a pain in the ass on TV.
20:24🔗DrewBut she's no more of a pain in the ass than you would expect as a male. You know what I'm saying?
20:36🔗DrewHe was very nice. He was aware of our program. Couldn't figure out who I was at first. Then when he figured out, he was talking a lot about it. He listens all the time, apparently.
20:45🔗AdamHe's got to keep in touch with the young people.
20:47🔗DrewYeah, and they were all really exceptionally nice people. All right.
21:15🔗AdamWell, they didn't fly their own planes and they chartered their own jets.
21:18🔗GuestHave you ever been inside one of those really, really little planes?
21:23🔗AdamI was in one less than a week ago. And yes, I can't stand it either. There's somehow the idea of the bigger the plane, the less it's going to crash or something. And I think it does make sense.
21:34🔗GuestI want to get in the biggest plane I can.
22:04🔗AdamYeah. Yeah, sure. Chicks love that. Who's that? Your dad? Yeah. Yeah.
22:13🔗DrewThink about what dad's going to be like if he's drawing flames on his arm.
22:16🔗AdamDoes your dad mind that you're drawing on yourself? Not really. No. You know, once in a while when one of my buddies would pass out because he was loaded, we'd draw a big penis on his back, you know, with an indelible, you know, Marks-a-Lot kind of thing, he didn't seem to like that. Took a while to come out and stuff, but we didn't think about doing flames on his arm.
22:54🔗AdamYeah, why don't you draw some eyebrows on like my grandma does? That should be your next move. You ever see those women who get the tattoo, permanent stuff?
23:07🔗GuestI had a woman that worked for me one time. She had the brows, the eyeliner, and the lip liner.
23:13🔗AdamYeah, it always ends up looking like a clown painting, right?
23:20🔗AdamThat's what you should do. Flames on the forehead.
23:22🔗GuestI think it's a little like sort of permanent, you know, markation of one's body is a good plan. Like just sort of don't mark yourself up too permanently.
24:04🔗DrewThere's nothing wrong with the name. If you started with the false name, why announce first thing when you get on the radio that you've been lying?
24:12🔗CallerDon't go with Dave. Go with Alejandro. Think of something cool.
24:33🔗CallerIt's about a DNA test. I've tried calling different places and I can't find any place that has them to find out the results for, you know, if you're HIV positive.
25:15🔗DrewBut it's less predictable when the DNA production is going to kick in, how much virus can be produced. That might be delayed, maybe, you know, at six months, everyone will have had an antibody response.
25:25🔗AdamYou know what's going through my mind right now?
25:43🔗DrewYou're probably fine. Go ahead and you should get a test anyway to be responsible, get other screening done. And where can he do that? He can do that where? Any healthcare provider can do that for you. And their alternative test sites can do it very anonymously, but you want to be sure you get the counseling done before and after the test is done, and then again at six months. And don't look around for a... People always want to get around the system, right? There's a reason that the screening tests are the screening tests we have. Use that. If you get... You start screwing around with the system and doing things that are not considered standard of care, you're not getting quality care. You're messing with a system that's a certain way for a reason.
26:15🔗AdamAll right. We will take ourselves a little break. Catherine and David Alan are both here from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday nights, 930. When we come back, we'll speak to Andrea. 26 was with a friend and her husband. A little threesome after this.
27:07🔗AdamI'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Catherine Lanosa and David Alan Basche are both here from Three Sisters, 9.30, NBC, Tuesday nights. And when we left off, we're going to speak to Andrea. Although I bet she's going to tell me to pronounce her name differently. Andrea?
27:35🔗CallerWell, I just found out a while ago that my best friend's husband has hepatitis C. And I just want to make sure if I'm all right with being intimate with both of them.
27:47🔗DrewYou're going to be intimate with both of them?
28:43🔗DrewAnd certainly through anal sex. And by the way, in his wildest imagination, her doctor didn't think that he was having threesomes with neighbors and having anal sex with them.
29:10🔗AdamOh, well, if you guys are colleagues. That's different. I have Kornholdt, engineer Anderson, and... And at the same time. Yeah, sure. Drew. Oh, of course. I didn't know you guys worked here. Why don't you say something? It's totally a totally different scenario. Sure.
29:58🔗AdamWell, maybe he's on borrowed time and he's living like there's no tomorrow. It's like... Last wish. Honey, if you make it through the surgery, I'll give you anything. How about anal with your best friend and a nice threesome? Hey, what do you do for a living just because it'll be funny?
30:37🔗AdamYou guys are wonderful, wonderful role models. Wonderful. And you know what I love? I love it when they go, no, we don't let them in the room. They don't know what's going on. Yeah. They don't know what's going on. They're just raised by two nut jobs. They're well aware of the being raised by two nut job part. That leaves the bedroom as soon as they zip their pants up. Hey, can you? I'm sorry. Go ahead, Katherine.
31:00🔗GuestYeah. One of my son's friends walked into one of those scenes.
31:54🔗AdamWe got to gamble on you. I know it's been a while, but let's get the money out, everyone. Has everyone got a dollar? You don't have any money there, Drew?
32:01🔗AdamWe're gambling on her past. It's going to be tough though, because she's going to be pretty tough not to crack. Well, that's why we're gambling.
32:10🔗DrewWhat sort of trauma has she survived in her childhood? What was her...
32:14🔗AdamAnd by the way, what if she takes off with the husband? What is the ex-wife going to do? You cheating son of a bitch! I knew it! I knew it. I knew it from the first time you cornholder and I was there handing you a beer. I knew there was something going on between you two. You know, a woman feels it. A woman has a sixth sense where she has an intuition.
32:38🔗GuestSee, I tend to think that that kind of behavior is more deviant than maybe stemming back to sexual views.
33:02🔗AdamAll right. Here's what we do. Here's what we do. We gamble on Andrea's past. What got her to this position today that she thought that this lifestyle would be okay? Yeah.
33:19🔗DrewYou go first because I'll refine it. Okay.
33:22🔗AdamI would say... Oh, I love that. You know it's got to be some kind of wholesale sexual abuse. Dad. Physical? Dad was maybe physical abuse. Physical abuse from dad.
34:24🔗GuestI'd say sexual abuse by a parent. There's a deviance to that.
34:29🔗DrewThat's where sexual impulsion and deviance comes from.
34:31🔗AdamDrew, go ahead. You're going to sex by a neighbor?
34:33🔗DrewNo, I'm going to an addict dad, a deaf and addict dad. I'm going to a strong addict dad thing, like even a heroin addict dad maybe. But sexual abuse by a peer female around age 10.
34:42🔗AdamOoh, ooh, yes, because she was into the wife at the beginning.
35:03🔗CallerYeah. I was adopted, so it was my biological dad. My mom's schizophrenic. She wasn't available to raise me. So, and sexual abuse by my dad.
37:11🔗GuestIt's a very strange thing, I think, for a woman to do that to another woman. It has to be some kind of major deep-seated betrayal by one parent.
37:22🔗DrewShe was adopted from an addict dad to an addict dad, was sexually abused by them, then religiously abused, then started acting out on her period. Physically abused, then acting out on her period at age 10.
37:35🔗DrewYou know what? It's strange. I just get a feeling about where their development really got into trouble. The arousal mechanisms got diverted. What normal sexual development gets off track. It's just from listening to so many years of these people, I just get a real clear sense.
38:12🔗AdamNow that's been shot. We'll take a break. Catherine and David are both here from Three Sisters, Next Tuesday, 9th, 9.30, NBC, and we'll be back after that.
38:23🔗CallerThis is Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191. Loveline will be right back.
38:53🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. He is Dr. Drew. Katherine LaNasa and David Allen Bashe are both here from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday night, 9.30. Let's make a question for them. Steve?
39:12🔗CallerHey, what's up, guys? Hey, first of all, I just want to say, Drew, I think you're really a smart individual, and you know, you're totally underrated by all the viewers here.
39:26🔗CallerI also got a poem right here that I think you'll like. Oh, no.
39:29🔗AdamReally? Do you have a question for the guest? Yeah.
39:32🔗CallerFor the people from Three Sisters, I was just wondering, I think it was a pretty funny show, and I was just wondering how you all got together in terms of, like, if you had a separate career to start out with, in terms of stand-up or anything like that, and how NBC put you guys together to perform a new show.
39:45🔗CallerIt was kind of potluck. I think NBC just stuck us all together to see if it would work, just like they did with all the other shows. But no, yeah, we all did a bunch of stuff before this.
39:53🔗GuestI had quit acting for three years and had gone back to college.
39:58🔗GuestWell, I started with psychology, but as you know, you could see I didn't get too far. I found it really depressing, and then I went to physical anthropology and mathematics. But probably would have finished my degree in philosophy, but because I think that's really why I was studying all that stuff. But I ended up getting a phone call from the head of casting from NBC, and I just, you know, they were, I don't know, they just sort of thought the show was for me. It all seemed sort of lined up, and three days later I ended up with the show and went back to work. It was a really...
40:29🔗AdamYou didn't have to audition. They just called you.
40:31🔗GuestI had one audition. I auditioned for the network, and that was it.
40:35🔗CallerAnd... In terms of like humor, in the humor field, I guess, or anything like that, in the comic field.
40:39🔗CallerYeah, we'd all done some comedy before.
40:41🔗GuestYeah, I'd been doing it before, but it just kind of cut my losses and stopped doing it and gone back to school. Just called it a day. Didn't really think I'd be doing it anymore. But we'd all done... I had Seinfeld and Bird Rock and all those shows.
40:55🔗CallerVicki Lewis was on news radio for a long time.
41:23🔗CallerHere we go. The title is Loveline. Every night at the same time, I turn on the radio to hear Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on the Loveline show. Over the years, Loveline has become a show that is like none other. The callers range from crackheads to girls that have been raped by their brother. When callers call in with their problems, Drew always has the solutions. And often you can hear Adam in the background with his humorous contributions. Dr. Drew is very respectable for his knowledge of the penis. He can be seen almost as a penis. On men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Drew is a very handsome guy. He kind of looks like my mother. I'm sure he would like to forget the time he was on that abortion of his show, Big Brother. Adam is known as a comic genius. He can be seen regularly on a man show. If there's a question about jacking off, he is probably the person to whom he can go. Adam provides all the humor. He talks about how he needs to shave. His big and hairy bum crack looks like the Batcave. Whenever he gets jacking off, his hand is always in a blur. Then he kind of gets pissed off because he's got to clean off the comforter. All in all, Loveline helps many people to conquer their internal fits. If you've got a problem about your balls or dork, you can count on them to solve it.
42:44🔗CallerI'm just amazed he got the penis rhyme.
42:47🔗GuestPoems are always a scary proposition, but they're tempting, aren't they?
42:49🔗DrewIt's tempting, but I gotta say it was very anxiety-provoking. Where are we going next?
42:55🔗AdamI enjoyed it. Hearing poems, especially about yourself, is like a three-card Monte game on the streets of New York. It's very tempting to plop down a twenty.
43:05🔗GuestI got a poem from a fan. It was called Hugs. A fan sent me a poem.
43:18🔗GuestJust a little sweet little poem about Hugs, Adam.
43:21🔗DrewWhen you get the prison mail, are there elaborate pictures with it?
43:24🔗GuestYou know, the most eloquent, most well-written, with the best handwriting, piece of fan mail I've gotten was from prison. Right. Well, the calligraphy...
44:34🔗CallerI went to see a urologist, and he gave me this stuff, a tabo or something. You take eight of them a day, and it didn't really do anything.
44:42🔗DrewLet's try to soften the blood vessels up to get through there. I don't think that's such a great idea. They actually can sometimes remove these clots, believe it or not, if it really bothers you. Otherwise, if you can get by, just use, believe it or not, hot compresses, hot towels.
45:09🔗AdamRight. Well, you can only shoot so much dope into your dork, before it doesn't cooperate. I mean, you figure there's going to be some repercussions to that.
45:27🔗CallerYeah, I mean, I've played around in recovery for a while, but I've really gotten serious with it. I feel better than I ever have in my life now. Great.
45:34🔗CallerI'm just dealing with all the stuff that I've done to myself.
45:37🔗DrewWell, that's all the consequence of your disease, the wreckage of your past. Maybe these reminders help you sustain your sobriety, just to be thankful for everything right now. Maybe go back and try a different urologist. Again, I've seen people have these things actually removed, so I'm sure that could be done.
45:53🔗AdamAll right, Dave. Thanks a lot, guys. Bye-bye. Don't turn into one of those real self-righteous guys who freaks out when I have two pieces of rum cake at dinner because you got six years sobriety under your belt.
46:13🔗DrewBut doesn't dork injection give you some sort of privilege to be able to be a book thumper?
46:17🔗CallerYou can withstand that kind of pain, I'm imagining.
46:19🔗GuestBut then I also think it's pretty ridiculous of those not in recovery for us to sort of sit around and praise them as if we have, oh, I can't say that, what it's like to be them. What it's like to go through that. Sorry.
46:32🔗AdamAll right, baby. You're very passionate about this issue. Well, come on.
46:36🔗GuestIt's like, oh, good for you. As if we have any idea what that's like. I can tell you that quitting smoking was, I just wanted to kill myself every day.
46:43🔗GuestCan you imagine what getting over that must be like?
46:45🔗CallerI mean, that's what empathy is about. I mean, I think all of us in the room probably know somebody in some program or with someone addicted to something or has been or working on not being.
46:54🔗DrewI run a program and it is an incredibly painful process for people.
47:03🔗CallerI was listening, I think it was last week, and a girl had called up and she had had oral sex but had not orgasmed. You would ask her if she had had sex and she said no, and so you said that was very common. I have had both intercourse and regular, and excuse me, oral sex, and I have not orgasmed at either. I was wondering if it was a little abnormal.
47:31🔗DrewHow about when you masturbate? Huh? How about when you masturbate?
47:37🔗DrewSo you're actually ahead of your peers? Because most 16-year-olds can't have it no matter what. They can't quite figure it out. Not all. Yeah. Around 18, they sort of start getting it figured out.
47:48🔗AdamWell, I think the guys start figuring it out, too.
47:53🔗AdamI mean, they don't drive the vagina very well.
47:57🔗DrewThey just got their learner's permit. There is no break-in or training period for the male. With the orgasms? Yeah. The male hits the ground running. Pow. With women, it takes a while for it to sort of figure itself out.
48:27🔗CallerA little shot in the dark there. Yeah.
48:29🔗AdamAll right. That's good. No, see, sometimes women say, well, I can have an orgasm when I masturbate. And I think, all right, well, if you can have one from sort of diddling yourself, you can have a guy work it out for you, too. And then they tell you they got to they lie under the log jammer, magic mountain, have a flume go up on them. And I go, all right, well, now a guy can't do that.
48:50🔗AdamYeah, I guess if a guy drove one of those tanker trucks or something, but when I'm saying, realistically, ladies, it's great when you have the orgasm in the tub and everything. But if that's the way you get used to it, don't you know, unless you're dating Aquaman, it ain't going to it ain't going to happen. You know what I mean?
49:11🔗AdamAll right. By the way, communicating with fish was never like, I never thought of that even at like eight and nine. I thought that's no good superhero trait. You know what I mean? Superman.
49:39🔗AdamAll right. We will take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Bryan. He wants to... Oh, yeah. He wants to ask Katherine about her husband, who is none other than French Stewart, after this.
50:36🔗AdamHey, Loveline. I'm Adam Perot. It's Dr. Drew. Katherine LaNasa is our guest tonight with David Alan Basche, both from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday nights, 9.30. And of course, there's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. When we left off, we're going to talk to Brian, who has a question for Katherine about her husband, who's a French Stewart.
51:09🔗GuestOh, jeez. How great. Anyway, I had a question for Katherine about her husband, but then I also had a question for both of them about the show. Okay. All right. Okay. Anyways, I wanted to know, is French Stewart like as crazy and, like, I don't want to say just goofy, like he is on a third rock, but, you know, like...
51:35🔗AdamTrying to get it out of his ass? Is that a euphemism or is it a different dance?
51:39🔗GuestNo. My son wakes up to a radio Disney and it's gone up to the hamster dance more than once, and French has actually started dancing to it. So, seen as I'm the grouchiest person in the world in the morning, I appreciate being married to him. He's pretty funny.
51:53🔗DrewHe's like one of the nicest people in the show, but... He is a very...
52:19🔗GuestAnd I wanted to say that I really, really, really like the show. I seriously can't say enough about it. I mean, I watched Frasier and it just kind of snuck up on me, and I think it's really crisp. I like it a lot. Oh, good.
53:09🔗DrewThat would tell us these elaborate stories. In the end, he would describe this girl that was involved in these awful traumas as the most distinguishing part of her, that her butthole, what did he say? The anus was the size of a mason jar.
53:22🔗DrewThat was the punchline. He would drag us in these long stories. We would be, yeah, great. Then pow, we would get that. Finally, I could recognize his voice when he called me. The second he would open his mouth, now other listeners have picked up the torch. They are carrying the torch.
53:38🔗GuestDavid's is still. It's fine that he would ask that.
53:40🔗AdamI still think he enjoyed the show though.
53:43🔗CallerI was just glad that he's watching the damn show. We'll take the ratings.
55:27🔗CallerI don't like bragging, but I'm about a little above average.
55:30🔗DrewOkay. So it's not so, it's not like that's a big issue. No. Okay. There is, there is some, there is spasm of the muscles, the pelvic floor that can occur from anxiety. And sometimes that is something called vaginismus. But vaginismus can also be a sort of a spinal reflex that has to be deconditioned.
56:36🔗CallerThat's why we've been using, like, KY liquid.
56:38🔗DrewBecause she's cranked down, can't get on the outside.
56:40🔗AdamAll right. I don't know. I was thinking about every guy's got to be a goddamned kind of ecologist these days, you know? I mean, we really do.
56:51🔗CallerAs they say, Adam, we've all got our fingers in the pot.
56:56🔗AdamThere was just a time, and I don't know, maybe it was a better time. I think it was better. Where, you know, that was a mystery. There's a mystery, woman's business between her and her doctor. I don't know. I'm old fashioned that way. I just like that.
57:20🔗AdamPassful of AIDS. Tri-anal Rape. What was the other one?
57:24🔗DrewAble, Anal Threesome or something like that.
57:26🔗AdamAnal Threesome or, yeah. I can't figure out the other bands.
57:29🔗DrewBut I think guys are fundamentally freaked out by that part of Women's Anatomy. I think that's like a primitive response that men have to that. It freaks them out.
57:38🔗AdamYeah. Well, we worship it, but it's like the volcano god. We worship it, but we're frightened of it too. Ungawa. It's like, Oh, it's good. It's erupting.
58:10🔗GuestSo it's something to be gained from mastering it.
58:13🔗DrewBut that's on a much more sort of mature level, believe it or not. On a primitive level, they're scared of it. They literally fear they're going to get sucked back in, that it's something mysterious. Oh, yes.
58:22🔗GuestSomething in the id, goes way, way back.
58:25🔗CallerWe also don't have one. I mean, it's like-
58:26🔗DrewVery scary, very primitive kinds of reactions they have to it. And I think that's where men fundamentally try to control female sexuality, because the whole thing is sort of scary and out of control to them.
59:21🔗GuestYeah. They're so exosensitive, like I can rub into something and it's just like, ooh. But recently, like one, it's like starting like two days ago, it was like bleeding and like pussing.
1:00:16🔗CallerScary weirdo dude. And a white van parked out front.
1:00:20🔗AdamMostly primers, to be fair. Katie, and what about, I mean, your sixteen-year-old girl is just pulling up your top and having this strange guy work on your breast that wasn't weird?
1:00:39🔗DrewNow it's infected, now it needs to come out. You need to do hot compresses on it starting tonight, and you're probably going to need some antibiotics, and know that it can go from that to something very serious, rather quickly.
1:00:50🔗AdamWhat else is going on there, Katie, in your life?
1:01:26🔗AdamOkay. Listen, everybody, you got a permanent record. You really do. I mean, you don't want to get hepatitis, you don't want to get AIDS, you don't want to get pregnant. Women, you don't want to have 150 guys you slept with before you get to your husband. You just slow it down a little bit. None of it goes away. You know what I mean?
1:01:47🔗DrewYou know, lock yourself in your house like Adam does. Yeah.
1:02:21🔗GuestYou know what? I have to say I've never understood that women seem to be attracted to guys that have these sort of reputations as being womanizers. I've never understood what was appealing about that. It always seemed kind of nasty to me.
1:02:33🔗DrewWhat was appealing is that lots of guys are that way, therefore a certain number of women had dads that were that way, and that's what's appealing to me.
1:02:39🔗GuestWell, it's like Warren Beatty was always considered so sexy partly because he had this reputation for having slept with all these women.
1:02:48🔗DrewA healthy woman would look at that and go, Yeah, it seemed kind of gross.
1:02:51🔗GuestI don't want something that's been everywhere.
1:02:53🔗DrewA healthy woman would say that, but a woman who has...
1:02:55🔗GuestBut it has been everywhere. I don't want to know about it.
1:03:07🔗AdamThe reality is too, is there's the reason they've slept with a lot of women is because they put together some sort of package that's attractive to a large percentage of the women, whatever it is, whatever they got to wrap, they got a sports car, they got whatever they got, there's a reason why they have a high tally. I never did figure that one out myself. Steve?
1:03:31🔗CallerWell, a couple of questions, actually. One, after a prolonged sexual encounter with my girlfriend or whatever, it starts to feel like I'm shooting blanks.
1:05:56🔗AdamYeah, we're going French. All right. Well, that's... That'd be nice in the bio. He's always talking about... You read a guy's bio, it's like, well, here's where we went to college, and here's what his folks did.
1:06:27🔗CallerOh, goodness. Well, first of all, I'm not a bad person. I'm not promiscuous at all, but I've been in a couple relationships, and I always cheat on my boyfriend. It doesn't mean sex, but.
1:06:42🔗DrewCheat in such a way as to ruin the relationship?
1:06:48🔗AdamOh, yeah. You can't lie. You sabotage the relationship, and then you tell the guy, and then of course he freaks out. Now you're out, and you've avoided your intimacy successfully. Yeah.
1:07:00🔗CallerWell, okay. The reason I'm calling, I'm in a relationship now. I really don't know what I expect to hear from you guys, but I really don't want to mess this up, and it just seems like this pattern, I don't know. I mean, it's easy to say, well, yeah.
1:07:15🔗DrewDo you have, before you started finding these nice guys that you sabotaged the relationships with, were you dating guys who were sort of jerks to you?
1:07:23🔗CallerUm, I have a tendency to go for the jerks.
1:07:25🔗DrewYeah. Now these guys aren't jerks though that you're cheating on, right?
1:07:37🔗AdamWait a minute, Drew, you can have, I know what you're going for here, which is the jerks she's attracted to, so then she, but then she says no more jerks, so she hooks up with a nice, quote unquote nice guy, but there's not enough excitement, there's not enough stimulation, there's not enough chaos, so she's going to stir it up and break up with the guy.
1:07:56🔗DrewAnd go, and probably cheat with a jerk.
1:07:58🔗AdamYes, but if you're into chaos, you'll stir it up with the jerk too.
1:08:15🔗CallerHe is outliving his own life, actually, I know you probably hear this every day, but him not being in my life is a good thing, he's very destructive and...
1:08:25🔗DrewYeah, right, we understand that, but you're making a life's career out of finding your dad again.
1:08:32🔗AdamYeah, did your dad cheat on your mom or is he an alcoholic?
1:08:37🔗CallerBoth, yeah, I mean, raising an alcoholic.
1:08:40🔗DrewYou're hell-bent on finding that guy again and when you're not with him, you screw it up.
1:08:45🔗AdamThat's a nice little tip of the hat to the alcoholic abusive dad.
1:08:48🔗DrewYeah, thank you, those dads. Kristen, get some therapy, please. Please, you gotta go to Al-Anon, that's something you could do. You gotta get a sponsor, work the program. That'll serve a similar function.
1:08:59🔗CallerWell, yeah, I don't want to tie you guys up too long, but I did go to a therapist.
1:09:11🔗AdamYeah, and listen, therapists don't do anything anyway. They just sit there and say, uh-huh, and how did that make you feel? And you go, I was angry. And how did that make you feel? Well, I went to kill a guy. And then what did you feel? That's all they do.
1:09:26🔗AdamThat's anger. All right. That cost me 90 bucks. Hey, Kristen? Yeah. Listen, they ain't a fender shop. You understand? It's a long, slow, expensive process that's worth it. And it's not really that, I mean, good therapists are better and bad therapists, but anyone will do in a storm. And that's what your life is right now. All right?
1:11:16🔗CallerIt's just that I work out so much. I'm on a track team and I go to the gym every single day and I work out like crazy and I cannot seem to get rid of what I want to get rid of.
1:11:29🔗CallerLike my inner thighs touch in the middle. I mean, not big time, but just a little bit. And it bugs the crap out of me. When I wear shorts, I have to like keep pointing my shorts down. You know what I mean?
1:11:38🔗CallerHow often do you... So you work out every day?
1:12:06🔗AdamI mean, most women are, but a lot of guys are, too, but you seem to really be particularly... have a lot of energy with it.
1:12:14🔗GuestThe thing with that is that it's never... you're not going to feel okay once you get rid of that fat in the middle of your thighs. It'll be something else. Your nose or your this or your that or the back of your arms. You know, at a certain point, I think women have to...
1:12:27🔗AdamYou should get all that done. Is that what you're saying? Oh, stop it. I agree with Katherine, by the way.
1:12:31🔗GuestI think at a certain point, you get happy with yourself.
1:12:34🔗GuestYou have to get okay with yourself. Don't go mutilating yourself. It sounds like, you know, you probably look great if you're exercising three hours a day.
1:13:14🔗AdamShe is. Have you ever heard of someone who was skinny inner thighs rubbing together? There are parts missing from this story, but anyway. Alright, let's do our own form of lipo, which involves urine being substituted for fat.
1:13:33🔗AdamThat's our move. Alright, we'll be back after this.
1:13:36🔗CallerLoveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. I'm back in a minute.
1:14:07🔗AdamYep, Loveline from Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. David Alan Basche is banging his head from Three Sisters. Catherine Lanasa is also here from the same show. That's what we got to do. We got to wake the kids up. NBC, Tuesdays, 930. And let's hope kids listen to the radio.
1:14:37🔗GuestWell, my question is, I've been dating this guy for close to three years. For already eight months, we haven't had any sexual connection. So he says that he's been stressed, that there's a lot of, of his work actually.
1:14:55🔗DrewEsther, hang on one second. Doesn't she sound like some of the actors in Love and Death?
1:15:55🔗AdamDrew's a workaholic but also a very passionate, passionate, passionate man behind closed doors. Even sometimes with the door open, he's very passionate. And most guys who are workaholic are sort of lifeaholics.
1:16:46🔗DrewI don't know, but there's a giant piece of this puzzle missing. And either he's addicted to something, maybe sex, maybe speed, maybe things that make him not function sexually normally.
1:17:00🔗AdamOkay, well, listen, Esti. Okay, here's the deal. There's something majorly wrong here, and it really doesn't have that much to do with his career.
1:17:14🔗AdamSo, if you want to keep this relationship going and he wants to, you guys are going to have to really discuss this realistically and maybe get some counseling and do all that stuff. But don't talk about how many hours he's putting in at the office.
1:17:27🔗DrewYeah, that is not it at all. No way. No way.
1:18:08🔗CallerI have two questions for you, actually. About four years ago, my dad used to be a really bad alcoholic and really abusive towards my mom and my older sister. And ever since then, I've been really afraid of him. I can't even stay at home by myself with him.
1:18:43🔗CallerNo. And like, that's weird because like two years ago, I was raped by a peer from school and like I have flashbacks sometimes and I have dreams about it. But when I have these flashbacks or dreams, I see my dad.
1:18:57🔗DrewWell, that's fascinating actually because your dad is sort of what set you up as a victim. And I bet you didn't even report these rapes or didn't do anything about them.
1:19:07🔗DrewYeah, because that's the victim role you're used to playing from your dad. And that doesn't mean your dad sexually abused you, but he set you up as a victim and these idiot victimizers picked up on that and took advantage of it.
1:19:20🔗AdamWhat'd he do to your mom and your sister?
1:19:22🔗CallerOh, he would beat them. He would like emotionally abuse them, and tell them that they were little sluts, and he would just, like, I don't know, he would just abuse us all in some way, shape, and form that he could.
1:19:40🔗CallerHe almost killed my mom one time, and my mom had threatened to leave him, and so they went to counseling classes together, and they both got sober together.
1:20:05🔗DrewIt's an organization like AA for people involved with, close to, the addict or alcoholic. And it's a 12-step program, and it gives you the kinds of relationships and support that they now have to deal with their disease. Same thing for you to help you deal with the being involved with someone with this disease, and it really requires some very substantial internal change, dealing in a close intimate relationship with another person, trusting that person, and digging through a lot of these feelings that you had as a result of being in this relationship with your dad.
1:20:35🔗CallerSee, I don't know if I want to trust him. I don't know...
1:20:37🔗DrewJordan? I understand there's a lot of ambivalence about this, but if you want to do better in your relationships and feel better overall, you've got to do this.
1:20:46🔗AdamNot necessarily with your dad, but Alan on.
1:20:49🔗AdamYeah. I don't know if your dad deserves it, quite frankly. She's got a reason to be scared. Yeah. I just... Leave that alone for a while. Why don't you talk to your mom about it, but they both sound like a piece of work. I mean, how about you just work on getting out of the house?
1:21:03🔗CallerYeah, I've tried. They won't like... I've left and they have tried everything under their power to get me back.
1:21:09🔗AdamWell, I mean, like when are you going to be 18?
1:21:14🔗AdamAll right. So then you can leave the house. Right. Can you go to college?
1:21:18🔗CallerYeah, I can, but I don't want to leave my little sisters here because they're kind of going through the same things. And I don't want them to have to go through that.
1:21:27🔗AdamAll right. Well, then have it out with your mom and see what's up with dad through your mom. I mean, they've been sober for a while. Go to Al-Anon. Everyone, go to Al-Anon. Even if your parents were straight arrows, go to Al-Anon. I mean, I hate everyone. I hate all these parents. I really do. You know, it always breaks your heart because you're like, get out of the house. And they're like, well, I got an eight-year-old sister who's left behind. You know, listen, listen, you screwball parents. How pathetic is it that your kids are looking after their siblings, you know, trying to protect?
1:22:02🔗AdamFrom you? Please, would you have some goddamn pride out there? Stop it. Stop screwing with your kids, everybody. And what a legacy.
1:22:12🔗GuestWhat's wrong with people? Where's the guilt mechanism? I don't get it.
1:22:15🔗AdamOh, they got screwed with and now they're screwing with.
1:22:17🔗DrewAnd we have a society, listen, we're living in a time when the predominant attitude of the society is do what you want, divorce is no big deal, your kids take care of themselves, they're resilient, it's total BS. Could not be further from the truth. That the kinds of belief systems.
1:22:35🔗GuestAs a mother and as a woman, that's just something instinctual inside me that tells me that. It doesn't have much to do with mirroring the parenting that I had. So I always wonder what's off with people, that they don't feel something about what they're doing.
1:22:52🔗AdamWell they are off, but you didn't come from raging abusive alcoholics, or did you?
1:22:58🔗DrewOr if you did, what will happen is you'll have moments where that stuff gets through and your child will remember those moments and will have those kinds of calls. You know what I'm saying?
1:23:09🔗DrewThat even though you're parenting 85-90% of the time is instinctual and appropriate and connected, you may still, 10 or 20% of the time, still have a break-through of the same stuff that was delivered to you by your parents.
1:23:21🔗GuestWhat I'm saying is, these callers, you know, just the parents that they have, I wonder what's... Just being a female, that maternal instinct is so strong, you know so strongly when you're off. I don't get it. I don't get it. Where's the malfunction? I have it really strongly. I have a huge guilt mechanism. If I don't feel like I'm spending enough time with my son or if I feel like I'm too angry or whatever it is.
1:23:48🔗AdamBut you can say that about any... I mean there's a subpopulation in society that murders, that rapes, that abuses their children, that are pedophiles. You know what I mean? They're all missing that part.
1:24:04🔗GuestBut it doesn't seem like this is a small subculture of people that are calling you.
1:24:11🔗GuestIt's like when are people going to start talking about child abuse? It feels like that's still such a hidden issue. It's still such a secret issue. It's just such a secret issue.
1:24:21🔗AdamYeah, let's do an episode of Three Sisters about it. Good idea. We're doing our thing over here.
1:24:26🔗DrewI mean, it's all kinds of abuse. You see all the different kinds of abuse kids are going through and it all makes them a victim and then we go into a world where they're victimized over and over again.
1:24:35🔗DrewAnd our solution is the morning after pill. That's the best solution we can come up with. Don't have kids that are not wanted. If you shouldn't be a parent, don't have kids.
1:24:42🔗AdamIf you're going to be a real bad parent, let's not have kids. That's my quick solution. All right. We're going to take ourselves a break. We'll be back after this.
1:24:50🔗CallerHello, this is your radio. Love Line will be...
1:25:27🔗AdamHey, it's Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Tonight from Three Sisters, which is on NBC, Tuesday nights at 9.30. Katherine LaNasa, David Alan Basche are both here. Oh boy, we were just getting into a discussion during the break about the abuse and-
1:26:01🔗CallerWell, I have a question. Yeah. The tip, I'm not circumcised. So, but the actual tip has like these little tinsy-winsy bumps. I don't know. I don't know what it is.
1:26:16🔗DrewIt's probably the pearly penile papula.
1:27:52🔗AdamAll right. Well, whatever. Good times. Ladies like a little.
1:27:57🔗CallerNo. Well, my girlfriend, she was kind of like, she, she, you know.
1:28:01🔗DrewHi John. I'm just trying to imagine what these are and I suspect that the pearly penile papules but see a dermatologist or actually any doctor would be fine if you have some more concerns about it.
1:28:10🔗AdamThat's ripped for her pleasure, as they say. Well, I really got a good, I really got a very vivid, very vivid picture of him.
1:28:34🔗CallerOkay, I am a grad student and I'm currently pursuing my degree for substance abuse counseling. And it seems like, actually it doesn't seem like that for the last three years, every man that I go out with eventually turns out to have some sort of an issue with alcohol or drugs. And I honestly meet these men in professional situations. You know, I...
1:29:02🔗DrewYeah, but you understand what this is. You're studying it.
1:29:05🔗CallerIs that... because I really don't think that I realize that these people are having a problem with alcohol.
1:29:11🔗DrewWell, Shana, it's not a... these people may be a decade off from their disease ever activating. But alcoholics have a unique biology and a unique genetic makeup. And because you had a parent or somebody important in your life with that disease, even when the disease isn't active, your right brain, your subconscious, your emotional brain will tune in to those qualities and that gets turned into attraction. Those traumas in childhood become attractions in adulthood.
1:29:36🔗CallerReally? See, this is what my brother is telling me.
1:29:38🔗DrewYes. You're studying the damn disease, Shana. Why don't you... Wait, you're studying the damn disease. Why aren't you understanding this?
1:29:44🔗CallerI don't know, because I really honestly feel like I would have no way of knowing this.
1:29:48🔗DrewBecause it's not an intellectual conscious process. It is the right side of your brain. I would suggest you study attachment theory. I know Alan Shore, S-C-H-O-R-E over at UCLA. Give you a little insight into where attachment comes from and how those mechanisms work.
1:30:03🔗AdamThere's also a movie you could rent called Jury Duty by Polly Shore. It's the same spelling, same spelling, Drew?
1:30:57🔗CallerNo. After high school it was different therapists. When I was in high school, I was seeing a school counselor.
1:31:01🔗DrewWell, for whatever reason, this was not the substantial work you did and the work that has to be done is the work of Al-Anon Recovery. You've got to do your own 12-step program if you really want to stop this pattern. Now, individual therapy can work for this, but for whatever reason it did not in your case.
1:31:19🔗AdamYou know, there's the very subtle traits that the alcoholic will give off to the other alcoholic, like the trail of vomit and the lampshade that they wear in their head. I mean, a layman could not pick it up, but a trained eye, like one of our eyes, we get right on it, right?
1:31:43🔗GuestI have noticed that I am attracted, or like, I end up liking guys that are older than me and they end up being like, authoritative figures, like teachers or...
1:32:13🔗AdamAnd why don't you think, well, it's getting more normal. Have you, how come you haven't acted on any of this stuff?
1:32:21🔗GuestBecause, I don't know, they're older and I didn't think, you know...
1:32:26🔗DrewShe's not going to start until she's 17.
1:32:29🔗AdamI see. You know what I'm saying, Jennifer? I mean, have you ever got any counseling?
1:32:33🔗GuestYeah. I've tried several different people and I just can't seem to find someone that I can really open up to.
1:32:40🔗DrewWell, magically you're not going to trust anyone. Okay, because of what's happened to you. And until you do, there's no way to get over this stuff.
1:32:47🔗GuestAm I going to be able to get over it with counseling?
1:32:50🔗DrewYeah, you can. Sure. What happened to you?
1:32:54🔗GuestMy brothers sexually abused me when I was 6 and then when I was 10.
1:33:29🔗GuestOne of them was severely addicted to heroin for several years. And I don't know, the other one, I had always been concerned that he was abusing his girlfriend, but I never said anything just because I didn't have any proof.
1:33:48🔗AdamAll right. All right. So, hey, Jennifer, you got to take care of yourself now. Right? You got to find a counselor that fits. And don't be so picky. Just open up to the next person you sit down with, okay? Okay. All right.
1:34:12🔗AdamAnd listen, we were talking during the break about this. The only solution I can think to any of this is just screwballs can't have kids. I mean, that's it. I know I know I'm compared unfavorably to Hitler, by the way.
1:35:53🔗AdamYou're doing fine. It's just you could get hepatitis from using the brush like whoever just came in there, right? I mean, you got to wash your brush off, right?
1:36:03🔗AdamWe'll take a little break. We'll be back. All right, everybody. I want to thank Catherine and David Allen for coming out here from Three Sisters. Good times. Tuesday night, NBC, 9.30. Go out and support the show. Thanks a lot for coming in, you guys. Thank you. Thanks for having us. So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
1:36:56🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.