1:02🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, coast to coast.
1:13🔗DrewHey, it is Loveline. I'm Dr. Drew. And I'd like to announce with a great sense of relief and gratitude, I'm here with my friend Stryker, as Adam Corolla is absent tonight. And thank you, Stryker, for filling in for him.
1:24🔗StrykerIt's my pleasure of filling in anytime.
1:26🔗VoiceoverThe phone number here is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. And the fax number, we have returned to the old fax line of 310-854-4455. And Stryker is someone who is, maybe those of you that follow Loveline carefully have heard him here with me before. And those of you that are part of the Los Angeles audience know him very well from K-Rock. And those of you from the rest of the country, I bet will, I believe by the end of the year, everyone will know you. That's my prediction.
2:24🔗AdamIt's a round robin, I'll hit on Dr. Drew.
2:25🔗StrykerOkay, Christ, I'm gonna have to ask you, at least go towards me and then Dr. Drew after that. Okay, you may know Emily Procter from the West Wing, which is just doing so well.
2:36🔗AdamI know, can you believe it? It's just such an amazing group of people. I'm glad that it's a success, cause they're all so nice.
2:43🔗StrykerDid you know from the get go was gonna be huge?
2:45🔗AdamWell, I actually just came on in the second season, so I actually went from being a fan to being someone who's on the show, which makes it a whole different ball game, cause I keep, you know, expecting them to come and yank me off the stage. They're like, oh no, we were fanatically some 23.
3:00🔗StrykerDid they put you through the whole audition process? You got the casting and the producers, directors, the whole night.
3:06🔗StrykerAnd what happened when they said, all right, Emily, you're on.
3:09🔗AdamOh my God. Well, I had gone in and auditioned early in the morning and then went home and sat by my phone for the entire day and kept repeatedly calling my manager and saying he knew something and he said, I don't know anything. I'm like, you know, you know that I didn't get it and you won't tell me. And finally at eight o'clock, they called me and said that I had gotten it. And I just cried. I have to be honest. I was just so happy to have that part. Right.
3:33🔗StrykerI was, you know, that's a huge show, but I would think you were on the Dukes of Hazzard reunion show.
3:47🔗AdamTotally. And I got a little raving for this and I'll say it again. For the first two days that I worked on the show, they had me convinced that the doors at the General Lee didn't open. Right. And so I had to climb in and out of the doors and I was pretty embarrassed.
4:00🔗StrykerDid you do the hood slide and then go through the window?
4:51🔗StrykerShe just don't think I'm telling the truth. You know, she just thinks I'm joking around.
4:55🔗DrewWhy do you care? If she can't accept it, if she's not willing to deal with it, that's her.
5:01🔗StrykerYou told her. I just want to know. I just want her to know and everything and then...
5:08🔗DrewWell, you've told her, Jimmy. She can't deal with it for whatever reason. She's unwilling to deal with it. And that's her business. That's her feelings. You need to build up a supportive network of your own friends. Thank God she wasn't at least hostile or degrading.
5:22🔗DrewBut you know, this is just as damn... it's just as painful to not have your parents acknowledge who you really are. But that parents do that kind of stuff all the time. Your job is to develop a network of friends who are also gay, who have been through what you've been through and get some support for this such that as you get out of the house and push this a little further, really get her to accept who in fact you are, you'll have a support network to do that with. But don't push that right now when you're out.
5:46🔗StrykerYeah, because my oldest brother, he doesn't want anything to do with me, neither does my step dad or anything.
6:07🔗AdamWell, and the thing that I was going to say is I think that you deserve a big pat on your own back from yourself for being open and honest and feeling comfortable enough to come out about it.
6:15🔗StrykerYeah, because I just, like, when I started telling everybody, I just, like, I felt much better about it.
6:22🔗DrewWell, but Jimmy, I'm glad you're saying other people, but again, people react in ways that can be unpredictable and you need a set of very supportive, connected friends you can trust. That's more important than anything. And 15 year olds that insist on telling their parents about being gay are giving a little F-U to the parents. Right. So those are parents that we got, were abusive at one time, I guarantee it.
6:41🔗StrykerJimmy, find some more of your gay friends and hang out with them and you'll feel better. And at the right time, I'm sure your mom will come around. Jason, you're 20, you're on Loveline.
6:53🔗And Emily. Hi. I have two questions. One question is, my girlfriend has a arthritis I can't, I can't find. It starts with an R. Rheumatoid. Thank you. And we're talking about gaining birth control. And I was wondering, will birth control affect her medicine that she's on now?
7:09🔗DrewIs she on, what, Prednisone or Methotrexate, something like that?
7:11🔗What is she on? I honestly couldn't tell you. I know she takes stuff like Vicodin now.
7:15🔗DrewOof, Ouch. Well, listen, rheumatoid arthritis, very serious, destructive, erosive disease of the joints. And it's more that the birth control could be affected by some of the medicines she's on than the other way around. But she should be able to find something effective and she needs to work with a rheumatologist on that.
7:33🔗Okay. And my second question was the one that was on your thing.
7:48🔗Yeah, she wanted to, this is true, I don't want you to think I'm joking you or anything. She beat her when, he beat her when she was pregnant with me and so on.
7:57🔗DrewNice. So you had to witness all this growing up?
8:00🔗I didn't witness it. I heard it until I was 17.
9:30🔗DrewShe's going to find another abuser, Jason, unless she gets some treatment for what she's been through.
9:34🔗She's tried to go to counseling every once in a while. I've been trying to go, but it's not working so well for me.
9:39🔗DrewWhen you're ready, go, but she needs to go before she, unless she finds another abusive a-hole, because she will find one or he will find her.
9:47🔗StrykerBeing 20, Jason, you just need to stick with your job, your schooling, and move on, and try to forget about your dad if you can. So 1-800-LOVE-191 is the number. Emily Proctor is here from The West Wing. For everyone out there that knows the show, which character are you?
10:01🔗AdamI play Ainsley Hayes, the Republican addition to the White House staff.
10:11🔗AdamYeah, you know, everyone has a very specific role, I think, but it's a very well put together team. There's not a lot of ego. Everyone's really great. Martin is, his politics are his own, and he definitely makes them heard, but he does put his money where his mouth is. He's a very magnanimous person.
10:30🔗StrykerHe certainly is, and if I see him, boy, will I hit on him. I'm kidding, Marty. All right, Autumn, you're 15 on Loveline. Hello there.
11:04🔗StrykerListen, screwball, get rid of the binder.
11:06🔗DrewHe's on my shoes. Adam, I thank you and it means we've truly arrived when we were on a 15-year-old's shoes. But listen, he's down in New Orleans doing something for the Man Show.
12:23🔗DrewAnd she follows you around when you're going out on a date with her?
12:25🔗StrykerYeah, she like, like on Thursday, she followed us to like the movie theater, like, and she like was like spying on us.
12:32🔗DrewHey, Rich, I hate to say it. I know it's a pain in the ass for you, but we find that kind of quaint here on Loveline. That a parent actually gives a crap.
13:24🔗DrewShe's known you for five years. So let her know you're the same person. Even though you have a few tats and piercings now, it doesn't make a change, which I'm sure you have.
13:31🔗AdamAnd be consistent. Be honest about what your intentions are and be consistent. Consistency calms people in all situations, I think.
13:38🔗DrewAnd get her to know who you are as a person, not as the tattooed, pierced, rich from down the street. To nail her daughter.
13:47🔗DrewBy the way, Rich, you would not... Not only would I be following you, I'd be like handcuffed to my daughter. So just consider yourself lucky.
13:53🔗StrykerAnd 15 year old girls are developing like mad these days. I went to a surprise birthday party the other night for a 16 year old boy.
14:00🔗StrykerThe girls there, I was like, they could be thrown in prison with the thoughts that were going on in my head. For the love of God. It's unbelievable. If I was a parent, if I have a daughter, she is not going to go out with anyone.
14:12🔗StrykerAnd you have what? Eight daughters or something? No, I have one daughter. Two boys, triplets running around the house. All right. Janelle, you're 20 on Loveline.
14:43🔗AdamThat's interesting. I'm also adopted, and I always think about this. I'm like, oh no, what if one day the letter comes in the mail?
14:51🔗Emily Procter with StrykerWell, actually, my mom and my biological father split up when I was like nine months old. And when I was six, my mom married my stepdad, but they'd been dating since I was two. And so, he's my dad.
15:28🔗DrewNo, why would you? No, no, no. Why would you? I'd be curious in Emily's point of view, because she was adopted.
15:32🔗AdamYeah. And this is what I was going to ask Janelle, where your conflict lies. Do you feel like you might be betraying your stepdad by contacting them? Or do you feel like you have a lot of family and you don't want more? Or is it just that you have problems with your biological dad?
15:51🔗DrewShe has a family. She has a family. That's the family she's known her whole life. Why open up a new family just because there's a relation? What if dad had put the sperm in a sperm bank and she found out there were a couple other people circulating around that shared genetics with her? Does that make it family?
16:07🔗Emily Procter with StrykerWell, I just found out, like, I'm really close. My mom and my stepdad had a daughter. She's 13, and we're extremely close.
16:14🔗DrewBut that's great. She's been in your family, been raised with her.
16:18🔗AdamSo your issue really is loyalty, you think?
16:21🔗Emily Procter with StrykerWell, kind of. Like, I found out, like, one of my younger sisters is, like, an unwed mother, and I guess maybe I'm really protective or if I feel like...
16:29🔗AdamSo you're not sure if there are people that you'd want to get along with?
16:34🔗StrykerOne works at the mill, one's a garbage collector.
16:37🔗AdamWell, I think the thing is, I don't think that you should feel obligated to contact them. But at the end of the day, it is your life and if you feel like you want to get to know them as people, I think the decision that needs to be made is yours. And I'm sure that if you went to your dad, your stepdad, and said, you know, I love you and you're incredibly important to me, and this is something that I feel like I need to do for myself.
17:01🔗DrewI'm sure you'll be fine with that, but Christ sake, Janelle, you're 20. Don't you have other things to occupy your time at this time in your life? The last thing you do is open up a, and believe me, it's not gonna be the Partridge family when you get there. You know your biological dad's an A-hole, and believe me, he didn't have the, what's the, I'm not helping you here.
17:22🔗Emily Procter with StrykerNo, well it's not him.
17:23🔗DrewBrady Bunch. It's not gonna be the Brady Bunch when you figure out who these kids are.
17:27🔗Emily Procter with StrykerIt's not him that I want to meet. I've gotten a couple letters from my grandmother, and she's been telling me about them, and I wrote her back a letter telling her that, you know, emotionally I wasn't ready for this, and this wasn't something that I could find.
18:00🔗StrykerAre you curious at all, or have you ever been curious to find out who the real, I mean, you have a real mom and dad, but the people that actually gave birth to you, are you curious to find out who they are?
18:09🔗AdamWell, it's interesting because I have a very close family, and we're all sort of hodgepodge together, but it is my family, and we all love each other a great deal, and I feel very satisfied with that and very confident with my family unit. But what does go through my mind, the only thought that I do have is that I was a very healthy baby, you know, and there are moments where I would love to just send my mom, my biological mother, a letter and say, you know, I'm so happy I have the most wonderful family. I went to college, I am so loved, I have been so nurtured.
18:49🔗DrewWhat would that do for you? Why would that create some closure?
18:53🔗AdamI think because in the back of your mind, you don't wonder if your biological parents aren't a little bit like you. And if it were me, I would always wonder. I would wonder, you know, to let go of a child, I think would be so, so difficult and I would wonder if I had made the right decision, if I had.
19:12🔗DrewBut she did. And that's, yeah, that's fine. And great. You don't owe her anything. She did a great thing, by the way.
19:19🔗AdamShe did a huge thing. And my family is the most important thing to me. And I would just like to say thank you. But I don't do it because it is opening a can of worms. And, you know, you could end up with a ton of family. And I have a lot already.
19:36🔗DrewI've never talked to anyone. Now, they may be out there.
19:39🔗AdamI actually know someone who found her biological parents and it's been a great experience.
19:44🔗DrewI've never talked to anyone for whom, when they found the parents, they were, you know, sitting at the Four Seasons at a writing desk, right? They were in a trailer and they were heroin addicts or they were, you know, but they were, they, you know, thank God they had the foresight to give the child up for adoption.
19:58🔗AdamWell, it was interesting because my friend Mary has a very aggressive kind of cancer that runs in her family and her biological mother had to go to the courts to get an issue saying that she could find Mary and say, You have this kind of cancer. And when they found each other, Mary's mother's biological name, her biological mother's name is Paula, her adopted mother's name is Paula, her father's name is Jim, her biological father's name is Jim. They drive the same, both of her mothers drive the same car and have the same job.
20:44🔗StrykerOh, I see. Oh, all right. Yeah, I want to know if there are any side effects or strange happenings or instances that might occur after I shave my pubic area.
20:55🔗StrykerWhy do you want to? Why do you want to?
21:20🔗DrewThey just, you basically shave down below the hair, the hair, and it grows back and becomes a small little like bubble. It becomes an abscess and they give it for carbuncles and things. It can be unpleasant, but God knows women deal with this all the time.
21:31🔗AdamI was going to say, speaking as a woman, if you want to do it, go for it. And the way to avoid the ingrown hair situation is a little baby powder.
21:39🔗DrewReally? What is that stuff? There's some cream you can use.
21:42🔗AdamOh, there's stuff called Razor Tanskin. Tanskin is great.
21:48🔗StrykerI want to use that product, Nads. Have you seen that commercial for Nads? They call it Nads. You rub it all over your body where you want your hair gone. And then you take a Popsicle stick and you rub it on and then it rips off.
21:58🔗StrykerI'm from Australia. I actually know someone who does that.
22:03🔗StrykerYeah. Yeah, exactly. Rob, I got one thing to say to you about shaving the pubic hair. The worst situation, you're going to shave it down there and then you're going to let it grow a little. And some girl is going to get there and it's going to be so stubbly like your face, she's not going to want to get with you again. So stay away from the Bic down by the Johnson.
22:22🔗AdamYeah, I was going to say, I'm going to go against you there, Stryker. I think you want to go on. Go for it. Emily's a good haircut or something.
22:34🔗StrykerOh, God. All right. Well, Emily Proctor is here from the West Wing. I would be Stryker.
22:37🔗StrykerOh, and on that note, I'm so embarrassed.
22:39🔗StrykerNo, don't be embarrassed. We'll talk about this at the break when we come back. I'm trying to fill in for Ace Rockolla and Drew is here. More Loveline coming up after this.
23:06🔗You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio 100.7 The Buzz.
23:18🔗StrykerWe're back. We're back. It's Loveline. I'm striking in for my main man mayonnaise, Adam Corolla with Dr. Drew and Emily Proctor is here from The West Wing, who is just you doing amazing.
23:39🔗AdamBecause you guys are you guys are tough.
23:41🔗StrykerWell, I think Drew is Drew is fairly tough. Drew is tough on me when I see him.
23:47🔗StrykerWhat is he like, Stryker, you want it? He's being hard on me.
23:49🔗AdamHe's like, you feel this way. I'm like, no, I don't.
23:51🔗StrykerBack to the shaving thing. I don't know if you ever have a boyfriend or married or ever. Are you, do you like when your boyfriend is bald down there below the equator?
24:03🔗AdamHe's asking me for my opinion. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm going to come out on the radio and I'm going to be honest. Um, I, I have a thing for, for, um, for the hairless bod.
24:22🔗StrykerAnd can you bring me a razor? I want to shave.
24:24🔗AdamYou know what? That is a personal preference and I think, you know, people have what they like. I just, I like that, but it's actually, to be honest with you, it's my own thing. Like, I'm one of these people who I shave every day. Right. I just, I just like it.
24:39🔗StrykerI won't even ask then, because I know the answer for you personally.
24:46🔗StrykerIt's so embarrassing. It's you're wonderful, Emily Proctor.
24:49🔗AdamEvery week I go to the show and they say, what embarrassing thing did you do last week? And I'm going to be like, well, in front of 10 million people or whatever it is. That's exactly what's going to happen.
24:57🔗StrykerDo you ever see Amelia Westaves hang out on the set?
25:01🔗AdamNo, he's not around so much, but Martin, Martin's son Ramon is there. And he's this incredibly charming, handsome fellow. I think, I think they're probably all a nice brood. And then also Martin's daughter is there a lot. And she's quite beautiful. It's a, it's a good looking group.
25:18🔗StrykerWell, you're on fire. You are doing wonderful, Baldi. All right, Josh, Josh, you're 19 on Loveline.
25:27🔗StrykerYeah, I'm kind of having a problem when I'm having sex with my girlfriend. And I don't ejaculate.
26:59🔗StrykerNo, he's not. No, he's not making that up.
27:01🔗StrykerHold on. Josh. I just, I get like a lot of pre-come, but I don't actually finish. Okay.
27:08🔗DrewWell, Stryker's giving me a piece of reasonable piece of advice and it's bizarre that you would cease masturbating at a time when your sexual arousal would be at its height, would sort of unsuccessfully released. And Stryker's idea is reasonable.
27:23🔗StrykerYou ever tried that one, Emily? You don't have to answer. I'm just kidding.
28:40🔗AdamAnd I guess in entertainment, you know, I can't remember which, maybe it's Maxim magazine, but they gave the top 100 movie moments of all time, and one of them was King Kong making out with Fei-Rui in a waterfall. Really?
28:51🔗StrykerYeah. Yes. That was a very interesting little statement.
28:55🔗StrykerAll right. So do you have a question?
28:56🔗StrykerYes, I do. Absolutely. This is mostly for Drew, I suppose. I have always had a problem achieving orgasm with a partner.
29:09🔗StrykerDuring intercourse. Absolutely. And I have always sort of suspected that my sensitivity in my clitoral area is not up to par. And I have been a smoker since I was 15. I just quit. And I am wondering if that could have had a part in that.
29:26🔗DrewIt is an interesting question. It is an interesting question. And it turns out that the blood supply to that area is even more sensitive to the damaging effects of cigarettes than even the blood supply to the heart. However, you have had this your whole life. You wonder whether the stimulant properties in the nicotine might suppress your orgasmic function. That is possible. But I have never heard of anybody complain of that. So, it has not been my experience. But it is an interesting question. Good luck. Hopefully, things will move along more now that you are a non-smoker. You are not taking well butrin, are you, as a way of getting off cigarettes?
30:22🔗StrykerI'm a big fan of the West Wing. In fact, I'm recording it now because I listened to Dr. Drew and Adam, even though Stryker's there.
30:29🔗AdamBelieve me, I was conflicted because I was so excited about coming in, but I knew I was going to miss the second selected episode.
30:38🔗StrykerEven though I watch them all, I can watch the reruns too. They're so great. I'm not a rerun kind of person.
30:46🔗AdamWell, I totally understand because I watched it for the whole first season and then got on the cast, so I still tape it.
30:53🔗StrykerYeah. I was just curious on how much input the actors have on the script. It's so well written. I was wondering.
31:03🔗AdamWell, actually, Aaron Sorkin is, in my opinion, just a genius and he writes week to week for everyone, and it really is his baby. He writes it, and as an actor, you never say anything because you don't have to. You read what he's written you and it's just gorgeous.
31:24🔗AdamIt is amazing. It's such a wonderful feeling.
31:26🔗DrewIs the upcoming strike going to be an issue for you guys?
31:29🔗AdamYeah, I think so. I think it's probably going to be an issue for everyone, which makes me very sad because I feel like I've finally gotten a job that I just absolutely love and I'll be sad to be away from it for a little while. But hopefully for everybody, it won't last so long.
31:56🔗AdamI know, he's just a great guy. He produces and then he steps in and directs every fourth one or every fifth one. Just kind of rides hard over everyone. Then there's John Wells, so we've got these three great guys who just love making a TV show.
32:18🔗StrykerI bet when writers write something, it's their baby. If you want to stray from that, I'm sure they're fairly sensitive about that, right?
32:25🔗AdamWell, I don't think it's that so much. The thought would never even occur to you because what is written for you is so great. Aaron is such an incredibly loyal individual and he cares to give everyone who's on the show something to do. You're never just standing around having coffee at the coffee pot.
32:58🔗StrykerWe're a band. You're bald too. I'm Stryker. In for Adam with Dr. Drew. When we come back we'll speak to Lee who saw porn and they were choking and now something's going on in his brisane. We'll find out next on Loveline.
33:41🔗StrykerIt's Loveline. I'm Stryker in for Adam Corolla along with Dr. Drew. You're a board certified physician and an addiction medicine specialist.
33:48🔗DrewJust retook my medicine, my no, my addiction boards again.
33:51🔗StrykerHow'd you do? Oh, wow. Did you study?
33:55🔗DrewI do a lot of addiction medicine. I thought to myself, if I don't really know this stuff now, there's a problem. I passed.
34:01🔗StrykerThere's a lady who's the Chili Peppers are doing a benefit concert for. I think it's Julia Scott, something Scott. Do you happen to know who she is?
34:09🔗StrykerShe's worked, I guess, with a lot of musicians and she's very ill now and they're doing a big concert for her. You don't happen to know her though?
34:25🔗StrykerBecause I see you on this show every morning. Right when I get up, the women are from Mars, and I think the black lady on that show likes you.
34:35🔗DrewWell, I'll let you come in and go talk to her.
34:36🔗StrykerSeriously, I think she has a thing for you. I've seen her look at you and she's practically drooling over you.
34:41🔗DrewShe got mad at me this week, so she's mad at me right now.
35:05🔗StrykerThat's a big matzo ball, baby. The West Wing is just doing so great. Next time the TV Awards come around, I guess you'll be able to go to the award show.
35:15🔗AdamWell, I actually got to go to the Golden Gloves and it was super exciting and everyone on the show was so nice. They said, you're going to be there and if we win, everyone comes up to go up there. So I ran up there and I got stuck behind everyone on stage. I was trying to peek and Tommy Shalami accepted the award and afterwards, because that's kind of old hat for those guys by now. They were like, wasn't that a lovely speech that Tommy gave? I said, I did not hear anything. I was staring into the audience like, oh my God, there's Tom Cruise. Oh my God, there's Catherine Zadar. Completely starstruck and trying to be seen so that my parents could see me. And then they called and said, we saw your gloves.
36:01🔗StrykerDid you walk down the red carpet and Joan Rivers said, so what are you wearing?
36:04🔗AdamActually, someone did ask me what I was wearing. And I said, they said, whose dress are you wearing? And I said, my own. And the guy said, oh my God, you designed that? And I said, no, but I own it. And they weren't happy about it. I need to get some new clothes. I don't know where the free clothes line is.
36:23🔗StrykerI'm not in it. You and me will go shopping sometime.
37:54🔗StrykerAnd yeah, and passed at the time. I just rented one from the video store. It's not like, you know, it's a mainstream chain and all that video store. And one of the things the girl, I found out the girl likes was to have her throat squeezed for like four to seven seconds.
38:16🔗StrykerOkay. Well, I was initially, you know, kind of turned on by her before the choke and all that. But I saw that and I just, I never saw anything like that before. And it kind of made me sick.
39:10🔗StrykerI must have had like a panic attack because I was up to the whole night. I wanted to jump in the screen and punch the guy and how very interesting.
39:19🔗DrewYou know, did you have to have to witness some violence in your home when you were growing up?
39:23🔗StrykerNo, I, I just, I never saw anything like that before.
39:27🔗DrewYou know, I'm wondering where this desire to save comes from, where the rescue thing comes from.
39:32🔗StrykerYou know, Drew, I thought about that, too.
39:35🔗StrykerAnd Dr. Drew. And I think, like, psychologically, not just physically, I was attracted to her because she's, like, quiet and kind of, like, a submissive personality.
39:47🔗DrewI understand there's a whole fantasy attached to her, but why rescue? It's what she wants. She likes that.
39:58🔗StrykerBecause I made up this thought in my head that, like, the evil porn owner, like, says, you'll do that, you know, and I'll just pay you. And she, like, goes in the back and cries after the scene or something.
40:10🔗StrykerWell, I think, Lee, I think most girls that are in porn, most, not all, have something going on with them anyways.
40:17🔗StrykerAnd I think they're willing to do a lot of things in the movies, but the girls that do that, there's a lot of people, guys and girls, actually get turned on by that choking feeling. Michael Hutchins, the guy from INXS, who died.
40:40🔗StrykerSo she may really, really, really like that, Lee. I wouldn't blame a director or anything like that. And, you know, maybe go rent Pete's Dragon now and, you know.
40:48🔗DrewAnd I look at, I understand why you'd be attracted to somebody in pornography, but why that very intense attraction that need to rescue and all the fantasy attached to that. And I look at that kind of carefully.
40:58🔗StrykerYou are after all alone and 26 year old virgins, a matter of fact.
41:06🔗StrykerWell, I think that if it was anyone being choked, you know, like I watch wrestling, but I know that's fake. I mean, I think if it was anyone in that situation, I would react the same.
41:19🔗DrewI understand. I think it's great that you want to rescue someone that's altruistic and all, but there's more to it.
41:25🔗AdamYeah, I would say that too, because I think it's interesting that you rented one and had this very violent reaction to it, which is understandable, but then went back to rent the same thing again, you know, not the same movie, but with the same actress. And I think it's worth looking at.
41:42🔗DrewAnd you've not yet been with a woman? Have you ever had a girlfriend?
41:45🔗StrykerOh yeah, my longest relationship was almost a year. And the only thing is we did everything with penetration because we're both virgins and I didn't have a condom.
41:59🔗StrykerWell we really started getting into it at the end. We were both kind of scared and we started with like a hug and then a kiss. It was kind of, you know, real after school special kind of love story.
42:18🔗AdamIs it a religious choice that you've decided to remain a virgin? Or have you just been nervous?
42:23🔗StrykerWell, at that point, I didn't have a condom. Had I had one, I would have.
42:26🔗DrewLee, please, that is not an excuse. That is not an excuse. I mean, guys that write up sex will airlift condoms in. Seriously, it's nothing to it.
42:36🔗StrykerYeah, I guess I'm nervous. I'm doing very well on my career. And it seems like love and romance and sex are like, you know, my weaker suit. You know, I have.
42:46🔗StrykerIt just seems like you lack like a bit a bit of confidence. We're not getting in just by ten thousand condoms. Put them in your drawer. Find a woman. And here's some really good points to rent, by the way. Emily May probably has all these. Romance in the bone is really good. Jurassic Park, Pulp Friction, Backside of the Future, Part Three.
43:12🔗StrykerOh, that's right. She's out in Burbank, right?
43:14🔗AdamYeah, but I was going to say, I can understand, I can understand being nervous, but I think it's always helpful to remember. I think that everybody gets nervous.
43:22🔗DrewThere's something much more going on with Lee here. We're not going to get it.
44:12🔗DrewProvided that there's not significant damage from the ecstasy and the LSD. Because marijuana depression can go on for about six months. You may have a G. Chris libido for up to six months. Have you had any suicidal thoughts?
44:40🔗DrewThere you go. And actually people commonly, believe it or not, kill themselves during that depression, in the first six months of marijuana absence. And that shows how severe the depression is when people stop smoking pot. Definitely. And although you feel good now, you may still be somewhat depressed. It's just relatively you're feeling good. So the libido should come back over the next three or four months, provided that the damage to your brain from the ecstasy was not too bad.
45:02🔗StrykerSo I've heard you guys talk about on Loveline, when you stop smoking pot after you've done a long time, you get depressed, but the libido deal, that happens also when you're just...
45:48🔗Emily Procter with StrykerNot that I'm asking or anything, but...
45:49🔗DrewNo, no. I have... I make a habit of doing it every day. However, this Mars Venus thing has eaten up a couple days a week. So, I'm down to like four days a week.
45:57🔗StrykerJust to kind of keep yourself fresh or whatever?
45:59🔗DrewWell, to know what the hell I'm talking about. A. B. I direct a chemical dependency program.
46:03🔗Emily Procter with StrykerOh, I didn't know that.
46:04🔗DrewAnd C. I have patients I've taken care of for many years, so I feel a strong obligation to continue seeing them.
46:10🔗Emily Procter with StrykerOkay. Yeah, I was just wondering. I was thinking about the other day. It's like, I wonder if you still practice.
46:14🔗DrewIt's also, I have great disdain for physicians in media that don't practice, because you quickly lose track of what's going on.
46:21🔗Emily Procter with StrykerThank you. Sorry, weird echo thing. My question is, is that I live in Portland, and I just recently kind of relocated from here. I was moving around for a while, and my family is mostly in New Jersey, and my mother is there, and there's a big history of depression in our family, and I've always kind of worried about various members of the family, but recently, especially, I'm worried about my mom and what she might do to herself. I'm kind of afraid she might kill herself. It seems like she's a little bit too loyal for the family for that, but at the same time, we have a big history of suicide attempts in my family.
47:06🔗DrewThis is a pretty heavy topic, and I'm not going to get it in 30 seconds, which is all we've got left before we have to break, so I want you to hang on for one second, and we'll pick you up again after the commercials, okay?
47:16🔗StrykerTake it away, Drew. Why don't you send us to break for once, Doctor?
47:18🔗DrewStryker. I'm delighted to have Stryker here, who you all will know over the next year, I guarantee it, and he's delightful to have, and a breath of fresh air after that, burdensome Corolla, and thank God he's not here tonight. We're here with Emily Procter from West Wing, and we will be right back with Loveline after this.
47:50🔗You're listening to Loveline on Outrageous Talk Radio 100.7 The Buzz. Outrageous Talk Radio 100.7 The Buzz. KQBC, Seattle.
48:21🔗StrykerNo, that would be great because you've done so many, you know, you've been in a lot of different things, you know, ten lines here, five lines there, maybe a co-star.
48:27🔗AdamI've been completely flying under the radar.
48:29🔗StrykerRight. And now you're on the West Wing, and people are gonna know who you are, and now you're gonna probably get some big movies in the hiatus if there's no strike. And you've got it, I think it's gonna be good. And now some man in there is clapping at me.
48:53🔗AdamYou know, here's honestly how I feel about it at the moment. I love my job so much. I've never been this happy. And if this were the end of the line for me, I would be perfectly fine.
49:05🔗AdamI know, but I say this to him and then he, and now I know he's like, shut, just move on, Emily.
49:11🔗StrykerShe wants to do a tampon commercial, ladies and gentlemen, and she needs free clothes, by the way, any sponsors?
49:17🔗AdamI know, I'm not in the free clothes line, but you know, who knows? Maybe I'll emerge at the end of it so addicted that I want to keep pressing forward, but I love it so much. I'm very happy to have this.
49:31🔗AdamThinking that I, you know, So it's cool to have you on the show. Success is coming my way.
49:35🔗StrykerAnd I'm filling out, I'll be like, yep, I knew her. We were supposed to go shopping, we didn't go. We were talking to Tara right before the break, right here on Loveline, and she lives in Portland. Her family's out in the Joyzee, and she thinks her mom is suicidal, and she wants to know what she's gonna do, and all this, and it could get deep. Tara?
49:53🔗DrewWhat is it that makes you believe your mom's suicidal?
49:57🔗Emily Procter with StrykerSee, I mean, what I was saying before was that my two older brothers and a sister, and my oldest brother tried to commit suicide when he was like 15 or 16, and then I tried to commit suicide, and then recently my sister, let's see, a year, year and a half ago, I think, she tried once, and then she tried again, and that time my parents put her into like some sort of place, I don't know, for a week or something like that.
50:26🔗DrewNow this is all while everyone is teenagers, right?
50:33🔗Emily Procter with StrykerWell, yeah, she's always been, she's always been depressed, and occasionally she would go into therapy, but she says things, it's kind of like before my sister tried to commit suicide the second time, or the first and the second time around, both times I kind of like saw it, you know, I recognized the same things that I'd been saying, the same way I'd been acting, that kind of thing, and I didn't do anything about it. So now I'm kind of very alone.
50:57🔗DrewWhy do I smell alcoholism in the family?
51:20🔗DrewWith the depressed mom, the alcoholic granddad, who is an alcoholic and has a lot of tumultuous family systems issues, and kids are depressed and probably doing drugs, probably your brothers are doing drugs. And now you get acting out suicidal teenagers.
51:36🔗DrewThat's that story. So, you know, Tara, you can go in and participate in family treatments. You can go into your own therapy. You can certainly be very direct and honest with your mom, and be a good daughter and make sure she gets and takes care of herself. But that's about all you can do. You can't protect her. And if you start acting that way, and probably in any event, you should go to Al-Anon or Alateen. Al-Anon at 19. And get a sponsor and really work on your co-dependency, right?
52:11🔗StrykerAll right. Now, when those suicide calls come in, like whenever I feel in frat, I might just kind of sit back and watch Drew do his thing.
52:18🔗AdamYeah, because I'm just not an expert in that arena. But I think Al-Anon is a great suggestion.
52:22🔗DrewYeah. That was an alcoholism story, not a suicide story.
52:25🔗StrykerAll right. It's 1-800-LOVE-191. It's Loveline. And let's speak to Melissa, who's 20. Hello there.
52:34🔗StrykerI've got a quick question. Yeah. This guy I'm seeing, he had cancer when he was younger. And he had to go through chemotherapy. And he told me that he couldn't ever have kids.
52:44🔗DrewI like the way they spell chemo on our board here. It's like chemo is on, in Lahaina. Let's keep chemo's bar in Lahaina.
52:53🔗StrykerLahaina is in Hawaii, by the way, everyone out there.
53:26🔗DrewYou know, what I don't know off the top of my head is whether there's a possibility of fertility and you know, he might want to get a sperm check just to see if that's, he probably got CHOP. Yeah, I don't know too much about it, which is Cytoxan, which is infertility, but yeah, you could be checked.
53:54🔗StrykerFirst of all, I want to say that Stryker is correct. Emily or Ainsley, whatever, you are going to be huge. I've never seen you in anything before. The very first episode you had on West Wing was just like, where is she coming from? I mean, you said that the writing was all done for you and it was nothing you would challenge. Every episode you've been in, you were like put up on this unbelievable pedestal to come in and beat up Rob Lowe the way you did and all that. Why last week when you were doing your press conference thing did they write you as so dizzy?
54:25🔗AdamYou know what I think happened with my character in the last two episodes is that I think Ainsley makes for a nice amount of comic relief and everyone else's job is so serious that in those two episodes they really couldn't afford to break character and have any humor but at some point you just need a relief and I think that I was meant to be comic relief.
54:53🔗StrykerWell don't feel like you're not a huge part of the show because you missed the first season because I got somebody that all they did was watch your episode, your first one, and that got them hooked to the show.
55:02🔗AdamOh Jim, thank you for saying that. I feel unbelievably honored to even be able to talk about the show with anyone. I feel so lucky to do it and I have to say, they write me a great part.
55:16🔗StrykerNo doubt about that. Are you going to be real, not reoccurring, but every episode kind of thing?
55:22🔗AdamI don't think so. I think there are a lot of mouths to feed over there and my guess would be that I will be on occasionally. You know, I love it. I would be happy to be on as often as they'd have me, but there are a lot of really strong characters, you know, in line ahead of Ainsley. And especially being that, you know, she is playing from a different party, I think it makes it difficult sometimes to factor her in every week.
55:50🔗StrykerSo now that you're on the West Wing, do you follow politics a lot more closely?
55:53🔗AdamWell, I understand it a lot better, which is one of the other things that I love about my job is not only am I getting to have a fun job, but I'm getting to learn so much. And it's great.
56:10🔗AdamCan you believe it? After nine years of waiting in line, you know, people like Jim Collin are nice to me on the radio.
56:16🔗StrykerAll I know is the best thing you've ever been in is the Dukes of Houser reunion. I will stick to that.
56:21🔗AdamStryker, thank you for following my career so closely. Oh, I follow.
56:25🔗StrykerAnd I will continue. Jerry 20 on Loveline.
56:29🔗StrykerYeah. I got a question. See, I'm with a 25 year old woman and I'm dating her for six months now. And I just moved in with her. And before I moved in, she sat down and talked with me and she said that she had four kids and that she was married.
57:18🔗DrewWhat is going on here? You're moving in, you're not having sex, this woman has four kids, she's not with them. That is... I mean, something is very wrong here.
57:27🔗StrykerWell, I mean, she's a beautiful woman.
57:30🔗DrewI understand, and you're desperate to stay with her, so you don't want to look at anything about who the person actually is. But there's something very serious going on here.
57:38🔗StrykerWell, yeah, I mean, I feel for her husband. I mean, I see it, and I just want to break off my relationship, but at the same time, I don't want to. I mean, I want to break off their one. I mean, Ben.
57:53🔗StrykerShe takes her kids to daycare, she said, and then after that, she really doesn't, she doesn't see them till later in the night because the father gets them.
58:01🔗StrykerSo they're married still, but they don't live together?
58:17🔗StrykerAll right, Jerry, I'm going to pull Ace Rockolla here. Man, you're only 20 years old. She's 25. She's got four kids. She's been married before. She's got kids everywhere. Man, forget her. Find another 25-year-old with no kids, with no baggage.
58:30🔗DrewShe's not. There's something totally screwed up about her because she's not doing her job. I mean, any parent with half their screws intact would be with their kids if they had four kids. She's got screws loose all over the place. Is she a drug addict?
58:47🔗StrykerNo, she's not. And I mean, I told her to stay with her husband at one time, and I told her that I was going to leave it alone, and I said that I was going to go find a new place to live, and she just went berserk. She started going berserk. She threatened to kill and everything.
58:58🔗DrewAll right. Jerry, isn't that a hint that there's something really seriously wrong with this person?
59:04🔗AdamThat's what I was going to say, Jerry, is that I think that probably what's happening is maybe you want to leave the situation and then you feel guilty and...
59:14🔗StrykerWell, yeah, because I don't want to leave her husband like that and I don't want to leave her kids like that with a mom like that, you know. I mean, it's not my place to fix it, but I mean, it's just for the sake of her kids. Her kids, you know, are wonderful and they don't deserve to be tossed around, you know.
59:29🔗StrykerBut you don't need to be the Savior, especially a 20 years old man.
59:33🔗AdamWell, and it's awfully hard in those situations to be the Savior because I doubt anyone will ever let you. And that's, you know.
59:40🔗StrykerYeah, that's what my mom was telling me.
59:50🔗StrykerDrew, I love when all of a sudden you're talking and they keep talking, you're like, oh, Jesus Christ. All right, it's Loveline and Misty, you're 20.
59:59🔗StrykerI have a question. I've like not been able to reach orgasm with my partner. And it is kind of like a sudden thing. I have been with my partner for a few years now and then I moved away and went to go visit for Christmas and just was having a hell of a time.
1:00:58🔗AdamDo you think maybe your feelings changed at all when you were apart and you feel like they shouldn't have changed so you're trying to pretend as if they're the same but maybe they might not be?
1:01:09🔗StrykerIt would be unknown to me. I mean, I really love her and I haven't changed.
1:01:14🔗DrewCould maybe her feelings have changed and you were picking up on that but not really sort of dealing with it?
1:01:20🔗StrykerIt's possible. I'm not real sure. It just seems that, you know, I'm moving back to visit her. Well, not just to visit, just to move back.
1:01:27🔗DrewWell, Emily backed me up on this one. When it comes to women, the emotional piece of the relationship is extremely important to sexual functioning.
1:01:38🔗DrewBoth sides. Whether it's what's coming at you or what you're giving out to what you're feeling internally.
1:01:42🔗AdamAnd you may even be having anxiety about moving to where she is to be with her. And you may be feeling anxious about that in some way in the back of your brain that you're not even accessing. You might feel like you're giving up a lot and so to give up fully and completely may just be a little overwhelming at the moment and that's fine. I think that happens.
1:02:06🔗StrykerI would believe that other than the fact that I gave up what I had to come where I am now.
1:02:34🔗AdamMaybe you just have a lot of anxiety because if what I'm understanding is correct, you moved away from where you were living to go to school and to do something for yourself and left somebody behind. And were you happy about that choice? Did you enjoy where you went to school and had a good experience? Yeah, I was very excited up until about a month ago, which is when you decided to go back to where you were from. Yeah, seems like you have a lot of anxiety about that and you're maybe not so happy about going back.
1:03:03🔗DrewYeah, my sense is, I mean, how great could it have been if you decided to leave, Misty, plus you left a relationship. I mean, you just seem to be high levels of denial about what you're feeling emotionally. Try to tune in to what's really going on here.
1:03:17🔗StrykerAnd as Drew was saying to you, Emily, you being the female, maybe because I mean, I'm a guy. I don't know, you know, the stock market could crash. I could lose my job. I could still have sex.
1:03:31🔗AdamYeah, but I can understand that feeling. I think you're just having a lot of anxiety about having to go backwards in your life. And I think it's it's probably shutting you down in that area. And I would look there first. I don't think it's I think it's your emotion and not really anything physical.
1:04:12🔗AdamStryker has his own little fantasy going on over here. But I do have to say, um, one of the most exciting things for me about Rob is that he's incredibly funny and he's great to be around. And he does this thing where he just looks at you when you're talking to him and he just seems so captivated by you. And I, I just am constantly in love with that. I'm like, oh, I think I must be really charming. He's just staring at me like I'm so great. And he's just super sweet and he's lovely. And, um, and I should add that he is also happily married with Duquesne. So all we can do, you know, is...
1:05:12🔗StrykerYou know, Rob Lowe, he is a funny guy. He was in the Waynes World. He's good.
1:05:16🔗AdamYeah. And now it's kind of I have to say, it's kind of a dude ranch over there on the West Wing. We have, you know, we have Martin and we have John and we have Richard and we have Bradley and we have Duway. And, you know, there's there's no shortage.
1:05:32🔗StrykerAll right. Now I'm sure, you know, a few of them are listening. Who out there? Not on your show.
1:05:37🔗AdamI'm sure they're asleep. They probably have to get up in four hours.
1:05:40🔗StrykerWho is really hunky out there that you would maybe like to go on a date with?
1:06:15🔗AdamYou have a great personality, honestly. That is like my boyfriend's physically are kind of a hodgepodge. They're all funny, nice people. That's kind of what I'm into.
1:06:25🔗StrykerSo it's like one a thousand or one in a more like one in a million.
1:06:28🔗DrewSo you're saying Amelia, you're 18 on Love Line Shaved down tonight. You bet. Amelia.
1:06:40🔗StrykerHi there. Lovely lady. You're 18 on Love Line.
1:06:42🔗StrykerHello. I've been with my boyfriend for like a year. And this past week, I haven't been able to enjoy having an intercourse with him at all. And I've been feeling sick like I'm going to throw up like afterwards.
1:07:07🔗StrykerNo, there's pain. I don't know what...
1:07:10🔗DrewI'm just telling you, I'm telling you, you have a urine infection. You got to get that treated immediately. That can get up into your kidneys. And the fact that you're having nausea does suggest that it might even be getting there already. And that could be very dangerous.
1:07:19🔗StrykerWhat kind of doctor does she need to go see?
1:07:21🔗DrewAnybody. It's very simple to treat. But you've got to be seen immediately.
1:07:30🔗DrewI'd take you. There's nothing to this, but you've got to get it diagnosed properly. Make sure it's not an STD, which I doubt it. It just sounds like a plain old urine infection.
1:07:55🔗StrykerGood bunny of mine, just like recently started getting pretty weird. He what we believed to do happened to him was he got addicted to crank. And some girl just like came up out of nowhere. He met her the other day. Well, he was skateboarding up to the school. And he just went on this big crank binge and she absolutely lost his mind. She he let her charge a bunch of bills to his credit card. She robbed a bunch of stuff from his house. And I just want to know, like, I don't know what did how I can how I can help this guy. You know, like we we tried sending them back to his parents' house.
1:08:28🔗StrykerWhich lives down in LA. But we think he bailed off the bus before he actually got home. And I was kind of worried about the guy because call his parents.
1:08:39🔗DrewHe needs to be in treatment needs to be in a hospital.
1:08:52🔗StrykerThey said send them our way, you know, but I mean, Can you get him in a hospital there locally? We can't really. We don't really have the authority. I mean, it would pretty much take us just kicking the crap out of them.
1:09:03🔗StrykerShipping them there to get them to.
1:09:05🔗DrewWhat normally will get the attention of an addict is their friends withdrawing from them, not being willing to have anything to do with him so far as he is in his disease.
1:09:13🔗StrykerIt seems like he's doing it to them.
1:09:16🔗AdamYeah, it seems like he's finding new friends.
1:09:23🔗StrykerHe's had like mental problems before this.
1:09:25🔗DrewI understand. He is an addict. Maybe he's not an addict, at least based on what you're telling me, I can't say categorically he is, but I can tell you he's got issues with chemicals and he's got significant mental health issues and it sounds like he needs to be in a very contained environment for a while.
1:09:42🔗StrykerI mean, can I run some of the stuff that he does by you, just like get maybe a basic grasp of his problem? I mean, the kind of stuff he does, he's really paranoid. That's speed. Like there's this one girl and he was dating her for like maybe two months and after just like one day he just starts coming home and swearing that like people that haven't even seen this girl slept with her.
1:10:18🔗DrewHe needs to, look, he needs to be in a facility.
1:10:22🔗StrykerBut how can we get this guy there? I mean, he's unwilling to.
1:10:25🔗DrewIf he gets severely paranoid or is greatly disabled, you call the police, call them, you know, have them intervene. You've got, you must, it's life-saving importance to him. You must use whatever leverage you have.
1:10:36🔗StrykerWhat's the number one thing John can do to help us?
1:10:39🔗DrewThe number one thing is to induce loss. That loss is what gets the attention of people, is to withdraw from, not have anything to do with the lives of people who are not.
1:10:47🔗StrykerThe girl's already done all kinds of damage. She, she ran into the U-Haul truck on the truck.
1:11:09🔗DrewIt requires very serious intervention. He is ill.
1:11:12🔗StrykerMan, that's tough. He's 19. That'd be so tough.
1:11:15🔗StrykerWell, I'm 19. I don't... No, no. He's 22.
1:11:17🔗StrykerNo, but you're not... I'm just saying, because you're 19, I mean, if... I was put in that position, I don't know if I could do it, but you have to do it. And in the long run, he's disabled.
1:11:25🔗AdamWell, that's what I was going to say. It seems like in this situation, John, you might seem like there might be kind of a middle-of-the-road answer, but there isn't.
1:11:33🔗DrewThere's no easy way out in this situation. The only way for you is to, if you don't want to step up and really do something, you can withdraw from him and not be a part of his life insofar as he has not taken care of himself. That will get his attention, but if you actually want to do something, it's going to require a military force.
1:11:49🔗AdamYeah, because at this point, once someone is an addict, there's no talking them rationally out of it.
1:11:55🔗DrewSomebody's paranoid, whether it's because they're bipolar or an addict, you can't do not even open your mouth. You're wasting your time. It requires high level structure like police.
1:12:04🔗StrykerAll right, we got to take a quick break. Emily Proctor is here from the West Wing. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. The number if you guys want to call in 1-800-LOVE-191. Ace Rockolla is gone. I'm Stryker with Dr. Drew, more Loveline after this. Let's go. That newfound glory is good. I'm Stryker, it's Loveline along with Dr. Drew, 1-800-LOVE-191. Doctor, you just went to the restroom.
1:13:36🔗StrykerAinsley. Now, the reason why I seem like I don't know that much about the show is I'm on the radio normally right when it's on, so I don't get to see it a lot.
1:13:45🔗DrewWell, yes, you should because that no longer is a reasonable excuse with the day of TiVo and playback and all this stuff. I'm not a high roll like you.
1:13:55🔗StrykerI don't have the women are from Mars, men are from Venus show yet. Once I get that, I'll get the satellite, the spice channel and the scramble.
1:14:04🔗StrykerThat's right. I'll get cable. I'll get a VCR instead of my beta machine. Get rid of my rotary phone for god's sakes. Josh, you're 18 on Loveline.
1:14:16🔗StrykerDr. Drew, quickly before, I just wanted to tell you that you inspired me to go to the city and now I speak at middle schools about drug abuse and alcohol abuse.
1:14:49🔗StrykerYeah. I'm pretty proud and I'm working on getting more of my friends involved as well.
1:14:53🔗AdamYou should be proud. That's a huge accomplishment.
1:14:57🔗StrykerBut my question was, I have a friend and he said I had to see this adult movie. And I'm not really into that. But so I watch it and it some of the stuff betrayed was, you know, like hardcore, you know? And my girlfriend walked in on it too. And she saw it. And I guess she thought this is what I wanted in bed. And, you know, I really didn't want that. And I told her this a couple of times.
1:15:24🔗StrykerJosh, what was it in the porn that she saw?
1:15:28🔗StrykerI don't know. Not quite as bad as like choking. But, um, anal and just kind of like hard, you know, not loving. Kind of like the animal stuff that Adam always talks about.
1:15:41🔗DrewRight. Are you sure that's not what she wanted? Or maybe that sort of freed her up to do it?
1:15:45🔗StrykerI said, you know, if you want it, you know, I guess we could meet in the middle. And, you know, she's like, no, but this is what you want. I'm like, no, it's not. And I'm wondering if there's something wrong with her or I just can't get it in her head that that's not what I want.
1:16:00🔗DrewAnd I don't know if she won't believe you. There's something wrong.
1:16:04🔗DrewYeah. That if she can't accept your feelings and can't trust that you're being honest with her, that's an issue.
1:16:09🔗StrykerThat's kind of what I told her. I'm pretty sensitive.
1:16:12🔗DrewAnd I wonder if it's something that she actually wants, but is embarrassed to tell you.
1:16:15🔗AdamThat's what I was going to say. She might just be embarrassed when she figured out that that wasn't actually what you wanted. She might have felt a little too.
1:16:21🔗StrykerIt's not as bad as choking. She's, I don't know, she wanted to try anal and I said no.
1:16:27🔗DrewWell, some people like aggressive interaction physically and that's them. That's fine.
1:16:35🔗StrykerSo is there anything that I can do about that?
1:16:37🔗StrykerWell, ask her straight out. Do you want it rough or do you want to get back?
1:16:42🔗DrewHere's sort of a threshold experience that tends to create people that like rough trade and that would be physical abuse in childhood and he kind of, he's being struck with things, that kind of stuff, that tends to translate into that kind of sexual behavior.
1:16:59🔗StrykerWell, I've read a book on that and I've talked to some people on the hotline and I don't know, we, me and my girlfriend talk about the stuff and she comes from really good family. I'm really close with her family.
1:17:10🔗DrewThey may have whacked her a couple of times when she was growing up.
1:17:12🔗StrykerOkay, well I'll talk to you about that.
1:17:13🔗DrewYeah, and that would sort of let you know that maybe she is into it more than she's willing to admit.
1:17:18🔗StrykerAnd if not, maybe she just does like it. Is it just built into it that she has to have it? Or is it something that we need to break up over? Or can we obviously work it out with some...
1:17:28🔗DrewI think you can work it out. I think you can work it out. I don't have my counseling, but I think you'll work it out with communication.
1:17:33🔗StrykerMaybe you should ever call your phone line in your room.
1:17:36🔗DrewI think you need to calm down a little bit. I mean, just because she likes a certain type of behavior doesn't mean there's anything wrong with her. It's sort of challenging your notion about her, you know, what your perceptions of femininity are. It sounds like to me. And that's just something she's into. And that's fine.
1:18:14🔗StrykerHey, my question is, is I, you know, go out with girls and stuff like that. And I say like about after maybe a week or so, we end up having sex and like, I'm really into them and everything. But after we have sex, it's like, I don't even want to be around them or anything anymore.
1:18:42🔗StrykerI was just kind of worried, you know, because I like relationships.
1:18:45🔗DrewYeah. You should be worried and it's very healthy that you're worried. And see if you can channel that desire for relationships into something more productive, like really focus on the relationship, not the sexual conquest. So like maybe wait longer to have a relationship and then for whatever reason, you start sort of degrading and demeaning women in your mind after you've had sex with them. Maybe that won't happen if you actually develop intimacy with them before you have sex.
1:19:08🔗AdamAnd that's what I was going to say. I think it's probably a natural human response to feel very exposed when you're first starting to have sex. And maybe you feel very exposed afterwards and it makes it difficult for you to consider having a relationship with them. And maybe if you valued yourself and them in the relationship for a little bit longer before you had sex, it might be easier.
1:19:30🔗StrykerDefinitely. But at 19, guys have a checklist. Second date, breasts. Third date, the baldness down below. Fourth date, we have sex. And then once he gets that checklist done, he wants to move on. So now his checklist should be favorite color, favorite song, favorite month of the year.
1:19:48🔗AdamBut it could be, you know, it could be maybe you feeling awkward also.
1:19:53🔗DrewYeah, it could be. Interesting. I've never thought about being kind to a 19-year-old male, but you're right.
1:19:58🔗StrykerWe have had so many sensitive men call tonight. Not that he was, but have you noticed that?
1:20:13🔗StrykerHi there. You're on Loveline and you're 27.
1:20:15🔗StrykerI am. I am about to start the 11th day of a period, and I'm just really confused because I only have about five or six day period at the most. I have an IUD.
1:20:31🔗AdamWell, I was going to say, I do know from people that I know that have them, and that that is one of the side effects of having one is that you have a heavier and a longer period.
1:21:16🔗DrewWell, that's what's probably what's screwing you up. You need to make sure there's not an infection, which is the other thing that can happen. Uterine infections when you have an IUD. But the heavy bleeding ought to be checked by the gynecologist. But I bet it's just all those medicines you've been taking.
1:21:28🔗AdamAnd I do know, too, just from my friends who have had children, that seems to have become the birth control of choice for them, also. And they have said that that is kind of a side effect of it. But they've been happy with it.
1:21:41🔗StrykerAll right, we have to take a quick break. Emily Procter is here. She is from the...
1:22:06🔗StrykerAll hell breaks loose. 1-800-LOVE-191 is the number and more Loveline right after this. All right, we're back. It's the Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191. Emily Procter is here from the West Wing doing a fantastic job in here. You're just giving great advice from the female perspective.
1:22:56🔗AdamI was a little nervous. Because, you know, we're speaking in such a closed environment, and here, I was wondering if I was being, you know, normal.
1:23:05🔗StrykerOh, you're definitely being normal. And do you have to be on set tomorrow and act and do lines and anything?
1:23:10🔗AdamI get to try on clothes for Ainsley tomorrow, which is something that I love to do.
1:23:15🔗StrykerRight. And do you get to keep wardrobe?
1:23:42🔗AdamThere's a conservative side in there also. Like I'm talking about it, which is the left side, but I'm feeling, you know, exposed about it. That's the conservative side.
1:23:52🔗StrykerKind of like you're on both sides of the fence here. You you shave everything, yet you won't wear a bra.
1:24:31🔗AdamOh, no, no, no. I'm just, you know, embarrassed.
1:24:33🔗What's going on, Mike? Well, I've been in with my girlfriend for about a year and a half now. In the beginning, I was really, like, optimistic about it. I was just like, oh, yeah, like, I really like into this girl and everything and, you know, all this stuff. And, like, over the years, it seems that we've traded places. Like, she's more optimistic about it now, but now I'm more like...
1:25:20🔗DrewWhat you're saying, you're saying it's pretty much over.
1:25:22🔗AdamWell, I would say from the female perspective, and it could indeed be over, but I do find a lot of times that in a relationship, you trade places. There is times when you're both into it an equal amount, and some times where you can be more into it, and the man could be more into it at certain points. And so it could either be over, or you could be in a phase where you're just not as into it.
1:25:45🔗Yeah, the thing is, like, I was wondering what, what maybe was kind of like making me wonder that, like why I want to go on. Like there was some like things that I didn't know about in the beginning, and she totally just like blew my face, like in the middle of the relationship.
1:26:00🔗Well, OK, like maybe nine months into it, she was just like, OK, like I would receive oral section from her like every day of the week, you know, and I was just like, oh, my God, like, I don't think like any girl would like to do this for like every day forever, you know, every day of the week. So I asked her, I go, what's up with this? You know, I mean, I don't mind, but.
1:26:22🔗StrykerWhy would you even bring it up? Accept it, man. You're the king of the world.
1:26:30🔗And then she was just like, well, when I was at, when I was eight years old, my my older cousin molested me. Oh boy. He would make me like, give her like, get him oral sex. I was like, oh my gosh. And that freaked me out, you know? And I was just like, what do I do? You know, like, how do I handle this?
1:26:50🔗DrewYeah. Well, you certainly don't want to reenact the trauma. Oh, no.
1:26:54🔗After that, I really like, she's like, yeah, I want to. I'm like, no, it's okay. You know, I'll just, I give up like some excuse, like, oh, I got to do homework or whatever.
1:27:23🔗DrewOr you shut down. They call these trajectories that people go down once they've been sexually abused. And it's probably some, some neural circuitry that gets opened up prematurely.
1:27:32🔗And then like, I mean, that's another factor that kind of scared me off about it.
1:27:38🔗Like before me, she had like a string of like, not abusive, like physically, but like, you know, like verbally.
1:27:46🔗DrewAnd also like her last boyfriend was this big drunk and, you know, I hate to, I mean, this has probably been an extremely healthy thing for her to be with you, frankly. Yeah.
1:27:54🔗I mean, I'm like, I'm not one to brag, but I mean, I'm like, I'm like the straight edge guy and I'm doing like alcohol.
1:28:00🔗DrewNo, no, I understand. It's been great for her. And you've been able to set some limits and hold boundaries with her. And it's been very, very important for her. But the fact is your feelings have changed and you may need to help her sort of deal with that. Yeah.
1:28:10🔗That's the thing that I was scared about. It's like after all these like bad boyfriends, you know, here comes the gem, you know?
1:28:16🔗AdamWell, you will remain a gem regardless. I mean, to have had a wonderful love relationship with someone for a year and a half, well, you know, it stays with you for the rest of your life.
1:28:25🔗DrewHowever, that transition out can be very painful, which is why did I let myself open myself to this pain again?
1:28:35🔗DrewBut that's not your responsibility, Mike, but what would be great is if we could get her into some kind of counseling so she has some structure to fall back on.
1:28:42🔗She goes into counseling already. She's very open-minded about those things.
1:28:48🔗DrewWhat if you went in there with her and started speaking your mind about your ambivalence about the relationship?
1:28:53🔗Yeah. It's just like she goes to counseling and she talks to her counselor about me.
1:28:57🔗DrewWhy don't you go and see if you can go into a counseling session in a safe environment and begin to tell her more about how you're feeling now.
1:29:05🔗The thing is we're not very, we're very open to each other. I'll explain like last night how to feel like emotional talk in there.
1:29:12🔗DrewHey Mike, why wouldn't you go into the therapy session with her?
1:29:15🔗StrykerMaybe he wants to break up with her not because of these past problems, but it's been a year and a half and he wants to move on.
1:29:19🔗DrewI think absolutely it is. In fact, he would have gone on quicker had he not been feeling so responsible for her. That's the way teenage relationships are supposed to go. They always go a little longer than they should.
1:29:29🔗AdamIt's very natural for all relationships to change. Just because you may move on from being lovers, you can be friends. I mean, it can just change.
1:29:41🔗Another thing about the friends issue, I went to the website and she gave me all this stuff. Then it was the Dr. Drew website and everything. It said not to just be friends. It said if you're going to break it off, just break it off.
1:29:53🔗DrewWell, I did say it. I have said that many times. However, this situation, I can't say that necessarily is the way this ought to go. I can say, however, that you need to give her a safe environment to begin delivering these messages and she has a therapist and you should go in there with her and let the therapist guide her on whether or not to maintain a relationship or whether it's better for her to cut it off completely.
1:30:23🔗Emily Procter with StrykerMy question is, is this, about a week ago, my boyfriend got engaged and, you know, I love him to death and just this last week, my love is like, it's different now.
1:30:45🔗Emily Procter with StrykerI mean, I look at him every day thinking, oh, I'm going to be stuck with him for the rest of my life, but I'm happy for that.
1:30:53🔗DrewStuck with him is not the kinds of language. There's something going on there. That's the kind of language you like to be rolling through your head as it pertains to your future. I agree. I agree. Strangely, people do look at each other differently when they get married, but it's supposed to be better. It was for me.
1:31:19🔗AdamYou may just be going through some sort of re-evaluation process where you're giving yourself another higher stakes checklist. And I think that you should give yourself a grace period and if it continues, you should look at the relationship again.
1:31:34🔗AdamYou know, change is hard. You've agreed to take on a big change and you may just be adjusting for that because it's only been a week.
1:31:42🔗DrewMaybe protecting yourself, your sense of what marriage is, maybe that it's going to be a disaster and you want to avoid that. Who knows what the reason you are having these feelings but I agree.
1:31:51🔗AdamIf you're still doing it two months from now, I think you've got to look at your relationship.
1:31:56🔗Emily Procter with StrykerI look at our friends and a lot of our friends are like having a lot of problems. I've been married and it scares me.
1:32:02🔗AdamWell, I think it's also important to remember that other people's relationships are not yours. There are a lot of examples of bad marriages out there that I wouldn't choose for myself but it's not your relationship.
1:32:13🔗DrewHow about a little premarital counseling too that might put your mind at ease.
1:32:41🔗Emily Procter with StrykerOkay. Well, I've been dating this guy for God, almost a year, which is a really long time for me because I had a lot short relationships in the past.
1:33:46🔗Emily Procter with StrykerThat's the whole thing. Like before I even knew him, like that was his crew. Like they all smoked pot and all that kind of stuff. And he never did any hard drugs or anything, just pot. But anyway, he, he met me.
1:33:59🔗StrykerAnd like just a month before that, he'd had some kind of rough relationship with the girl from when they broke up or something.
1:34:04🔗Emily Procter with StrykerAnd then he met me and he stopped like everything.
1:34:08🔗DrewWell, he will start again. I guarantee he will start again. And maybe after his military stint, but I guarantee he will start again. Guaranteed.
1:34:16🔗Emily Procter with StrykerI know it just doesn't seem like that.
1:34:18🔗DrewHe will. But, you know, you're 17. You're going to send somebody away for almost a year. You're going to sacrifice that big part of your life with somebody in a tumultuous relationship.
1:34:28🔗StrykerI don't really think I want to wait for him.
1:34:36🔗DrewWell, then you can enjoy your time with him. The guys will do that. Women want to sort of cut it off when they know they're not going to go any further.
1:34:42🔗StrykerSarah, you're going to meet a nice Eskimo in the next few.
1:34:48🔗DrewEmily, what do you want to say to her?
1:34:49🔗AdamWell, I was going to say, and this is one thing that took me a while to learn, but good relationships really aren't difficult. There isn't a lot of tremendous fighting that goes on and they're not an enormous amount of rough spots. Good relationships look very differently from bad ones, and it may be that you're just experiencing, he's getting ready to leave and you don't know if you want it to be over because he's getting ready to leave or because you just want it to be over, and you still have every right to be completely proud of having a year-long relationship and still want it to be over, and that's fine.
1:35:22🔗StrykerVery well said, and I'll just add two cents, and we'll take a quick break. She's only 17. For God's sakes, you'll find a new man instantly.
1:35:28🔗DrewAll right, we got to take a quick break.
1:35:30🔗StrykerMore on Loveline coming up after this.
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