5:53🔗AdamYeah. We're doing an outside project. We're getting together. All right. Shaggy and Henry Rollins and some other folks are coming up next week. Bob Guccione Jr. this week. And also Mark L. Wahlberg from Temptation Island. The host of Temptation Island is coming up here tomorrow night. Just us tonight. And let's hop on the phones. Crystal.
7:22🔗AdamLet me explain one thing, though, Drew, that I was thinking about while I was at the man show today. I was thinking about us and I thought one of our problems, not only in this show but in life, is we discuss our strategy out loud.
8:04🔗AdamBut still a woman just as a mouthpiece is huge. All right. But see the point is Drew, is when we map out our strategy on air, when we talk about what it's going to take to convince us and how we knew this one was bogus and what the gender is.
8:24🔗DrewBut we're also showing how hard it is to fool us. That's our arrogance is like, hey, we'll even tell you how to do it and we'll still pick it up.
8:54🔗CallerAnd, uh, Drew, props to you for putting up with Adam's s**t.
8:58🔗DrewOh, my God. Is that it? Did we just inundate with goof off now?
9:03🔗AdamI don't know. Hey, listen. I've said it a million times. I'm here for two hours and I leave. You see, if I had to help, like, 25 people a night and I started off with two jack-off questions, I'd be putting traces on these guys so I could go over to their house and kick their ass. I'd go nuts on them. You know, if I'd have to stay here till 2.15 in the morning now, helping souls, I leave at midnight. That's it. I don't care if I don't help anyone. Five people could commit suicide during the, during my two-hour shift. Doesn't matter. I'm going home.
9:56🔗AdamI see. Have you been listening to the show long?
10:00🔗GuestWell, I'm originally from here, so I listen when I come visit my mother. So I knew to phone in something my friends did.
10:07🔗DrewHow old were you when you left your mother?
10:09🔗GuestWell, actually, I left. I've gone to bowling school since I was about nine, and I was down south, and I finally moved out. Now I have a place of my own. I'm studying at higher education college.
10:19🔗AdamHold on a second. Did she say she was on a professional bowlers tour since she was nine? What did she say?
10:47🔗GuestNo, I know of his music, but no, not particularly.
10:49🔗AdamI see. Yeah. All right. So your question is, when you're having sex, he won't ejaculate?
10:56🔗GuestNo, he never does. I've been with him, started going out with him about a year and a half ago. We weren't together for about six months. We've been together about the last four months or so.
11:08🔗GuestHe's 19. But I've never got a clear picture of how many partners he's had or if he has had any. Because before when I met him, oh, he's a virgin, and then it changes when I've had six, and I've had eight, or maybe I've had three. I can't get a clear picture of, I mean, that's not really even the issue, really. I just wanted to know maybe if that's, I know it's not me, because I'm over that phase. I just want to know if it's maybe something medically wrong with him.
11:48🔗AdamWait a minute, he said he was a virgin, and then he said he was with three women, and then eight women.
11:53🔗GuestYeah, but I think that's just because he's ashamed of telling me that he had never had sex with anyone before.
11:58🔗DrewIt also has this alleged extensive medical history, yet it's mysterious, you don't know what it was. The young child is in the hospital repeatedly, there is a diagnosis, and what is the diagnosis is the question.
12:09🔗AdamWell, this guy seems like a pathological liar. He says he was a virgin, then he says with three women, then eight women, he's jumping all over the place.
12:16🔗DrewAnd he's 19 with a 15-year-old, they've been going out and having sex since she was 15.
12:24🔗AdamListen to her, she's from, isn't that bizarre? Yes. What kind of a strange experiment. They took her out of Chicago when she was nine, right? Nine years old.
12:50🔗AdamYou went to Scotland when you were nine?
12:52🔗GuestNo, it was the south of England. I chose to go to boarding school.
12:55🔗AdamYeah, but how old were you when you left Chicago?
12:58🔗GuestI was about nine, but I've been taking dialect lessons probably since I was about 11 and a half, because I wanted to fit in, so it's just something I did and I've gotten used to it. I don't come back here as much.
13:08🔗AdamYou took dialect lessons to fit in, in Scotland or England? What's that?
13:14🔗GuestAnd it worked, so I mean I'm happy with it. That's just not really the point, I don't see.
13:18🔗AdamYeah, it worked like a charm. You're in Chicago now, no one can understand you.
13:31🔗GuestWhen my father's Scottish, now it's actually a shame to be the only American, and get the pick, and oh, we beat you in the war. I got sick of all that crap, and I want to feel like everyone else. So you can have an accent, but you have to learn the vocabulary, and the ways and the customs of the people, and I finally got to do that. So I became a British citizen, because my father had gotten it through that very easily done, and now I'm set.
13:52🔗AdamWhat about the war part, beating you in the war?
14:26🔗DrewOkay. As far as he's not ejaculating, which is what she wants, yes, it could be a medical problem. Whatever the diagnosis was, I would need from his childhood illness. Medication is a common cause of this. But this guy is a liar, maybe a sociopath. Sexual dysfunction would not be uncommon in somebody like that.
14:44🔗AdamNor is a serious piece of work herself. Let's not discount that. Scott?
14:58🔗CallerYeah, I actually... You're going to make fun of me about this, I know, but my wife doesn't want to have sex with me, or with anyone, I'm hoping, but she says it's with anyone.
15:36🔗AdamWell, look at it this way, there's a high incidence of alcohol, there's gonna be high incidence of all the other stuff that goes along with that, right? When have you ever heard of someone sexually abusing someone without alcohol being around?
15:50🔗CallerAnd then, she didn't realize this, but she's an Oprah watcher, and they were saying that they had this special where they say millions of women don't want to have sex anymore, and they said one of the reasons is if you ride a boy's bicycle, and she used to do that, and one time she bounced down real hard.
16:09🔗DrewOh, you know what? That is, oh my god. I wonder where this was coming from. I had this question a couple of times when I was out of the colleges. I thought, what are you talking about? This girl goes, I fell off a bike and it ruptured my hymen. Oh my god, and I'm 18 and I can only have orgasm with oral sex. I'm like, yeah? Yeah. That is so much crap.
16:30🔗DrewWell, it's the pudendal nerve, and yes, you can damage it, and men do often from excessive bike riding, but they function okay, believe me, most of the time.
16:38🔗CallerBut what about breastfeeding? I mean, I feel like I have a triple whammy here.
16:42🔗AdamWait a minute, wait a second. You're saying riding a man's bicycle, you said, a woman, you mean if she falls on the crossbar?
16:49🔗DrewNo, she means, yeah, that somehow they... Please, please.
16:52🔗AdamWell, did she have an accident on a man's bicycle?
16:55🔗CallerWell, she said she was real bruised when she was 11. She was bruised down there. She never told anybody.
17:03🔗AdamThat and the mental and emotional abuse she's now receiving from Oprah.
17:08🔗CallerYou know, and I'm a real good listener. I've never yelled or.
17:12🔗AdamYeah, you listen too good. That's your problem.
17:14🔗DrewYeah, Scott, has she had treatment for her sexual abuse?
17:16🔗CallerShe has gone to treatment, but she hasn't followed through on it.
17:19🔗DrewAll right. Well, does it surprise you then that she would continue to have the normal manifestations of someone who is profoundly sexual abused?
17:27🔗CallerI don't know. I just think that if I'm patient enough that.
17:30🔗DrewScott, Scott, hey, listen, listen to what I just said. Somebody who's sexually abused will typically have the manifestation that she's having. Will not get better without treatment. So, no treatment? Shouldn't be surprised.
17:40🔗AdamYeah, but she wanted to get treatment once.
18:47🔗AdamI have no idea. All I know is one of our producers walked into my office today and said, Dr. Drew needs that one of the monkeys flinging poo or something. I said, monkey's flinging poo. I said, no, no, he wants the monkeys farting. He said, monkeys fart. Now, wait a minute, and we start going through all the monkey fecal bits. I was having to have a serious discussion with him. No, let's see, Jason, you weren't around in the first season. We did Man and His Future, it was portrayed by monkeys. They were farting laser beams. Oh, yes, I recall that one, he said. I said, yeah, go down and pull that one from one of the edit bays or something.
19:27🔗AdamPull it from the Man Show library, archives, and have that sent to Dr. Drew. Done and done, sir. Click this heels together, walk down the hall. I thought, oh my God, we have a show where we have serious discussions about monkeys breaking wind.
19:50🔗CallerA little nervous, but what the hell here? For the last probably gosh week, I've got this thing. It almost feels like chafing around my ween. And I can't figure it out.
20:38🔗AdamYou sure you don't get your pants on backwards? You could be checking the wrong side.
20:42🔗CallerNo, I mean, it's really weird. I only noticed it when I sit down and it started smelling bad and I thought I wasn't wiping good enough. I thought I wasn't wiping good enough.
21:02🔗DrewI mean, there is just endless possible explanations for that.
21:05🔗AdamTalk about bad luck though. It's like your car gets keyed and it hasn't even left the garage. You know, it's brand new. It's still on the showroom floor. I mean, this penis, he's a virgin, right?
21:17🔗AdamThis is like a car that is injured while it's on, you know, dented while it's on the transport truck coming from the factory to the dealer. Never been driven. It's been wrecked already. All right.
22:14🔗CallerAll right. I ejaculate too fast and I have sex with my girlfriend. You can be like at a commercial break for a TV show, and I'll be done by the time the TV show gets back on. Nice.
23:31🔗CallerYeah, she's not complaining. She doesn't complain after I have moral sex with her. But she's complaining because, you know, it'll be good sex. And then all of a sudden, you know, it's not good sex. It's good for me. It's not good for her. And I feel, you know.
23:42🔗AdamAll right. But you can give her an orgasm through oral sex?
23:54🔗AdamAll right. All right. Well, listen, why don't you try masturbating, like, half hour before she, I don't know. Listen, you know, listen. There's really, there's no quick fix here. There's really nothing you can do about this. You just work it out, stay with that one partner, figure out your rhythm. You know what I'm saying?
24:17🔗AdamThey have their own clock at that age. That's it. Some guys, it's really like this. Some guys get off in two minutes, some guys get off in two hours. Everyone else seems to fall somewhere in between, closer to the two minutes than to the two hours, and that's it. It's like asking a guy who it takes two hours for, is like asking Claudia Schiffer about her beauty secrets.
24:42🔗DrewSomebody asked me an interesting question today at Mars Venus about if you could change genders, who would you want to go see and talk to as the other sex? We turn you into a woman, now who do you want to go talk to? Just to see how they relate to the opposite sex.
25:06🔗DrewBut here's the point. The point is that I was thinking about it, I thought to myself, probably what you'd want to do is you'd want to, as a male, you'd want to go experience the multiple orgasm thing, right?
26:24🔗AdamYou make me mad. Why? Because we're going, the song is starting and I'm saying, let's go. Drew, Howard, shut up. Drew, Drew, Howard, and it had to do it all the way up so that you got your last word in on the air as we came back. That drives me nuts. Okay. Thanks. You ready?
26:52🔗CallerNothing much. Well, about five years ago, this happened and I just found out last year that my dad tried to get my boyfriend to sleep with my stepmom.
27:05🔗DrewHow did that happen? What does that mean?
27:08🔗AdamYour dad tried to get your boyfriend to sleep with your stepmom?
27:12🔗DrewTell us the story. I can't even imagine how that happened.
27:14🔗CallerYeah. Well, I mean, my dad and my stepmom don't usually drink and me and my boyfriend had a son at the time too. And we were sitting around. We drank one night and I went downstairs and laid down and fell asleep and my dad come down and got my boyfriend.
27:38🔗CallerYeah, we were living at their house. Anyway, he came downstairs and got him and he said, come here, I got to show you something. And when in my dad's bedroom, my stepmom was laying on the bed naked. And he asked him if he would sleep with her and my boyfriend said no.
28:29🔗DrewBut I imagine, judging just by these behaviors, this wasn't the first hint that you had that your dad was a a-hole lunatic. You've known he's a jerk your whole life, probably.
28:40🔗CallerWell, I've been finding out stuff lately. He's been older, you know.
28:44🔗AdamOkay. Your dad's a jackass. Join the Loveline Club. I'm going to get some windbreakers made up. My dad's a jackass. My dad molested me. My dad raped my kid's sister. Yeah. Join the My Dad's a Felon Club. All right. So here's the point. Now I don't trust the guy you're with because you came from your dad and that makes your judgment bad. How is this guy?
30:25🔗DrewWell, not privately. I mean, I don't want to be alone with him. Don't live with them. Get out of there. Get married. Form a family. Be stable.
30:33🔗CallerOkay. They don't live in this state, so.
30:45🔗AdamThat's good looking stuff. They have the wood grain finish on that. You get the vinyl sliding windows. Sometimes you act now, you get the trim package. They'll do the vinyl trim around the windows. Putting up that siding, especially, where does he call them? From Michigan? That's siding country.
31:02🔗AdamYou do. This time of year, though, that's a great gig, putting that siding up. Windchill factor, 14 below. You're hanging off some scaffolding on some guy's crappy condo out there.
31:13🔗DrewPretty much all the houses have that, right?
31:16🔗AdamI don't know. I don't know. Listen, I got in the siding. Here's what I like to do. I'll crawl inside the wall, let you guys side over me like Bad Ronald. Brian?
31:30🔗CallerI was recently dirt jumping on my bike and I wrecked and cut the handlebars in my penis. And I was wondering if there could be any long-term effects to it.
31:55🔗AdamYeah. Take those off. They're going up your ass. You understand? Yeah. I drew up. You heard me say it a thousand times. They have those pegs. They put on the front and rear axles for doing acrobatic stuff, freestyle stuff on the street. But when you're 14 feet in the air and the bike is laid out on its side.
32:25🔗CallerWhen I landed, I slipped and the handlebars turned. So like the edge of the handlebars was facing straight on my penis. And I flipped over, but I caught the handlebar. My penis caught on the handlebars. And when I landed, like the whole handlebar landed on my penis. Like I flipped and then they landed. I was like still tucked on my bike and it hit.
32:57🔗AdamMost guys who write BMX use Johnson or Dork, according to my research.
33:05🔗DrewListen, if he would have been airlifted somewhere, if that's actually what happened. I think his penis would have exploded. Seriously, that's what happened.
33:14🔗AdamWhat do you mean he dinged it on his handlebars?
33:16🔗DrewHe claims he got it cut and then smashed down. I mean, that's-
33:20🔗AdamWell, he dinged it is what he did. Obviously, it didn't explode. His penis would have exploded. Julie? Hello? All right. So he needs to see a doctor, yes?
33:35🔗Dr. Drew, but I don't think other than that. Maybe a psychiatrist, but I just have this dependency problem, and I'm really worried about it because all throughout high school, I have been in long-term relationships with guys, and I've never really been single. But just now recently, the guy that I'm with feels like we've said that I love you thing, and it's kind of like I love him because I think I need him. My mom's really unhappy with the marriage with my dad, and I'm just really scared of ending up like that, I guess.
34:05🔗DrewWell, if you just settle for guys and don't actually find a relationship that you want.
34:09🔗Yeah. It's not bad though. It's just okay. The guys that I've been with have been good guys, and I think I'm just really scared of being single. I don't know what it is. I'm an attractive girl, and I have guys that ask me out and stuff, but it's just that initially talking to them and getting to know, I'm really insecure about it.
34:29🔗DrewRight. But again, at 18, it's not so unusual to feel insecure about yourself, not have a clear sense of self, but you need to be single. That's what you need. You need to go figure out who you are. You need to date people. You need to decide what it is you want from a relationship. You're not just settling for these things and getting stuck in them.
34:43🔗AdamI put her on hold because her line was bad. I really wasn't thinking much about her prom, I got to be honest. But you know what I was thinking? Thinking we got to shake the world like an etch a sketch and start over.
34:53🔗AdamWhatever we're working on as a community, as a civilization, it's just not worked out. Let's just admit it's not worked out. That's what I've learned from tonight. It's not worked out. We got to start over. I don't know if it's some sort of Biblical armageddon. I don't know what it is. I think we're fixing to start over. I think we've gone too far in one direction to ever really fix it again. I think there's more bad than good in society. I think we got to start over. That's all I'm saying. I'm thinking about joining one of those doomsday cults.
35:25🔗AdamWell, come on. Why not? You know what I mean?
35:27🔗DrewIt's the weekend of the man show and already you want the end of the world to come.
35:31🔗AdamHere's what I'm saying. If the world is going to end, let's end it this weekend. Let's not do it. I don't want to do it in six months when we wrap. Drew, do you ever get that feeling though? We've gone too far south.
35:49🔗CallerMy girlfriend attempted a suicide on Sunday by taking a massive amount of Zoloft. Why? Well, apparently, she was on the phone with her ex-boyfriend, and he's kind of the epitome of everything that women hate about the male race.
36:41🔗CallerShe gets, there's a law for her depression.
36:44🔗DrewWhy was she talking to her ex-boyfriend?
36:47🔗CallerI don't know quite yet, because I haven't really been able to see her very much. She's in the hospital right now. I might get to see her tomorrow. From what I understand, she was just, she was depressed and started thinking about, because he started off as a good guy, and she started thinking about all that and decided to call him up and talk to him.
37:04🔗DrewBilly, she is still involved with this guy, and still very much in love with him. Guaranteed. The problem is though, every time I see her, she's like always, Yeah, you're the life preserver, you're the life preserver right now, and she's involved with this guy. That's it.
37:21🔗AdamYou really, this is getting pretty cathartic for you. No, it's what it is. Jesus Christ, you're the worst news in the world.
37:28🔗DrewBut it's reality. He's got to deal with it.
37:29🔗AdamShe's very much in love with him. Couldn't she be mildly in love with him?
37:33🔗DrewIt's a chaotic relationship and going on and off for a long time, which happens to be talking to him and to get so upset by a conversation, which I guarantee there are many, many more. Yes. She tries to kill herself afterwards.
37:59🔗AdamFolding chairs. We'll do it somewhere. We'll pick like a Nevada, like some old nuclear test site or something. We'll go to the mountains.
38:07🔗DrewAnd to make, Billy is the guy that if you talk to her, she's going to be like, Billy is so sweet. He's so nice. He's been hanging around lately. But Johnny, the other one.
38:16🔗AdamDangerous Johnny. Well, listen, listen, here's how you know. If Billy knows that she called him and that she was thinking about him, if he knows that much, think of what he doesn't know.
38:42🔗AdamBilly, you're in over your head here. Find yourself a nice trouble-free gal. Or if she wants to do something, fine, but don't make something out of something that isn't.
38:53🔗DrewI mean, she's not invited him to come visit at the hospital. I bet you the other guy has been there a ton. I'm sure of it.
38:59🔗AdamDrew, you ought to be a counselor. You ought to work with young kids who are going through tough relationships.
39:05🔗AdamProbably had sex with her right in the hospital bed, son. Yeah. Smell his finger, I'm sure. I know he got some. All right. You're wonderful. Drew? Yeah. Caller Drew, you're 17?
39:40🔗AdamAll right. Hold on. I'm sure it's going to be a big break for me when he comes back. All right. We will return. I don't want to talk to him. I want to let him hang on for a few minutes because I know he's got nothing to say.
39:59🔗AdamDrew, try to put your hand in front of the screen. We'll talk to Steve, his 16th girlfriend, wants them to have a threesome with another guy. There we go. All right, after this. Loveline, everybody. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Spoo over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Mark L. Wahlberg, host of Temptation Island and comeback host of the year. We'll be in here tomorrow night.
41:07🔗AdamHere's a guy who had his own TV show, the Mark Wahlberg show, syndicated daytime talk show, lasted a couple of rabbits' heartbeats. No, it didn't last very long.
41:19🔗AdamWe'll have tomorrow, but I don't think so. Went away, fell on hard times. Before you know it, he's doing audience warm-up, which is a good gig if you're out of show business, but not a great gig if you're in show business for my buddy, Jimmy Kimmel's, Win Ben Stein's money, and we're looking at each other going, oh man, hope something picks up for the guy. Now look at him, he's on the hottest show on television. Steve?
42:38🔗DrewWell, we've never had that before, except last night. We got a train going here.
42:42🔗AdamI know there is a cyclical nature to this world. Do you understand? Yeah. It's like there's freeway shootings or there's not. There's pit bull attacks or there's not. You notice how that works? Yeah. Things come in bunches.
43:10🔗CallerOkay. Well, first of all, what I wanted to say was, I know you're a big time guy in Hollywood and you have all these connections, and I had a kind of a favor to ask you. Is there any possible way that you could hook me up with a porn star to go to my prom with?
43:26🔗DrewOh, my God. By that time, I will be 18, so no, there is an interesting man show opportunity there.
43:32🔗CallerI don't want to do anything with her, just the fact to go to prom with a porn star would be like the raddest thing ever.
43:38🔗AdamYes. If you were my nephew, I would do it.
43:40🔗CallerCome on, Adam, I'm an avid listener and I love you.
43:43🔗AdamI know, but do you understand if I get a porn star for you, then I have to get a porn star for everyone.
43:47🔗CallerNo, but it's like an original idea to ask you that, so I'm the first.
43:50🔗AdamNo, you're not. I'm besieged with those sorts of requests.
44:23🔗AdamYou're 17. What is your bona fide problem for us tonight?
44:27🔗CallerOkay. It might not sound bad, but it is to me. Okay. Seven months ago, my best friend's brother has always been like just a flirt and it's like a funny thing. And then one time we really did have sex and it was like a big mistake and I regretted it.
44:47🔗CallerBecause my best friend, like the best friend in the world, like a sister, loved her more than anything, would do anything for her. She's awesome. And it's the only thing she's kind of ever said. Just don't ever do that because it would be awkward.
45:00🔗DrewYou did it. Let me cut beneath that one more layer and just interpret that she sacked with him and he blew her off. And that's why it was a mistake.
45:39🔗AdamAnd you're 17. You can't go out with him? Okay.
45:44🔗CallerWell, the underlying thing here is just like that she's always said, it'd be awkward. I don't want you to come over to see him, blah, blah, blah.
47:29🔗DrewOf course not. That's the point. So he's not into her.
47:32🔗AdamThe whole reason my parents had a girl, my sister, so I could get laid. They admitted that to me. I said, my dad pulled me aside. He was drunk, but it was at Thanksgiving about four years ago. He said, you know the reason we had your sister in law?
47:47🔗AdamYeah, good cranberries. Yeah, thanks. Then he said, you know why we had your sister? So we could help you get laid, son. We knew you'd have a difficult time getting along with that nappy hair and those big teeth, and we knew you needed help. But I said, wait a minute, dad, she's older than I am. Then he stopped for a minute and he said, wait a minute. That's why we had you. Then he started laughing like a mad man. Casey?
50:45🔗Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. I'm back in a minute.
51:25🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Mark L. Wahlberg will be in here tomorrow night, the host of Temptation Island, to tell us all about the success of that show. And until then, we'll get back to the phones and speak to Casey, who's 14. Now, we spoke to Casey before we went to break. Casey is dated a 40-year-old man, only attracted to older guys. His dad was physically abusive.
52:07🔗GuestI don't know. I don't really look at them as bad decisions.
52:11🔗AdamI know you don't. That's part of why you make them.
52:13🔗DrewRight. That's what victims do. They find victimizers and go ahead and let them do their thing.
52:19🔗GuestI mean, a lot of people think that these guys are taking advantage of me, and a lot of them are, but some of them are just out of their mind. Okay, I've gone out with maybe 20 guys in the past two years that have been older than me. Six or seven of them have proposed to me wanting to marry me. They have given up a lot just to be with me. They've told their family about how old I am, and their friends have lost all respect in that.
52:45🔗DrewYou're not making a case for these guys, Kasey. They're either victimizers or nuts.
52:53🔗AdamAll right. So they're crazy guys. I mean, listen, any guys in his 20s or 30s or 40s who's dating a 13, 14-year-old and proposing marriage is either in a band or he's nuts. I was going to say it could be a country or blues singer. Or he's nuts. None of these guys were in bands, were they? No. One of them was. Oh, really? Okay. Well, he's okay. The rest? Nuts. All right. So Casey, what are you going to do?
53:22🔗GuestI don't know. Like, I'm sort of like seeing this guy now, but I don't like, I.
53:29🔗Adam28. Oh, I, you know, we say this time and time again. When you're 25, you're going to, oh, you're going to cringe when you think about this guy and how effed up he is and what a piece of work he is. Do you understand that he's fundamentally flawed? That there's nothing he could say or do that would make him right?
54:55🔗GuestShe doesn't really... She doesn't know. Well, I tell her that I sleep with some of them and everything, but she can't really do anything about it because she doesn't know who they are.
55:13🔗AdamI mean, I know it's easier said than done, but at a certain point, everybody, you just have to do something. Do you know what I mean? I mean, your therapist tells you, your friends tell you, your counselor tells you, your parents tell you, everyone tells you, we tell you something. But at a certain point, it comes down to you. It's up to you. It's your decision. Whether you're 14 and have a history of abuse or whether you're 100 and have no abuse, you have to make the decision not to go down this path. And there's nothing we can do other than ask you to do that. OK. Mike?
56:25🔗CallerNo. It's the one screwed up time that that's what he says. And he wanted to tell me that... You know, if I don't want to be friends with him anymore, he'd be fine with that. He'd understand. And, you know, just to try and forgive her for it.
56:44🔗CallerI haven't talked to her yet. She's not at home right now. She's out at work. And I probably won't be able to talk to her till like after midnight. And I just need to know.
57:56🔗CallerShe's 19, too. She's only about a month older than me.
58:01🔗AdamWell do you think you'll be able to forgive her?
58:03🔗CallerThat's my problem. I want to, but I don't know if I can let myself.
58:07🔗DrewWell if you can't, you have to break up. That's not a relationship then. But if you were able to, I mean, 19 year olds do things to each other, let's face it. You know what I mean? People in their 19 and 20s, they don't treat each other well in relationships.
58:22🔗AdamNo, and this kind of stuff happens way, way more than we'd like it to. So what are you going to do? Are you in love with her? If you can get over it, and she wants to get over it.
58:34🔗DrewRight, now she may be sort of on her way out. This may be part of her way of escaping.
58:39🔗AdamYeah, yeah. But see, he can't lose her because that's his connection to those curly fries. They got over Jack in the Box? Yeah. Yeah. I'd hang on to her, milk her for her curly fries, and then dump her when I met a chick who worked at Arby's or something. Nice. You know what I'm saying? Move on to that roast beef. I don't know. Just confront her. Don't do anything stupid. Don't be drunk. See what she has to say. If you can work it out, work it out.
59:11🔗CallerI don't know. I'm having this problem. I don't know if it's like a self-respect or a self-esteem issue. I haven't been... I don't know. I've fallen into this habit of like looking and following desire and going for a first night thing that I don't like because, you know, guys will be guys and when they get the milk, they run. I'm wondering what goes on. Like, how come I'm a smart, intelligent, professional woman, you know, done with school, raised well and everything and I don't know why I am letting myself do this, you know, and I know that it's using...
1:00:29🔗AdamIt's like you're camping, yes. It's like a bunch of stoned people and Zorries who are out to get laid. And guys just walk around carrying around coolers of wine coolers and they just meet chicks. That's how it works. So, hey, what beach are you at?
1:00:56🔗AdamHave you had any... Do you want these to turn into long-term relationships?
1:01:00🔗CallerYou know, I'm picky and I don't go for anyone. But when I find someone that I would like to, then I let down some guards and it always goes bad. You know?
1:01:14🔗AdamSort of, but not really. How picky are you? You're sleeping with a new guy every other week.
1:02:51🔗DrewIt's fine. It's great, but it's not normal.
1:02:54🔗AdamYeah. Now, it's interesting that her family helped a lot of people. Now, she's helping people via the nursing, and it sounds great on paper, but there's something else going on. And I don't know what it is yet. Jackie?
1:03:08🔗AdamDo you have that sort of take care of sort of gene?
1:03:11🔗CallerThat's what aggravates me is because I spend my entire life taking care of other people and I don't take care of myself.
1:03:17🔗DrewAll right, well, here's what happened. Here's what happened growing up. Your parents spent their life taking care of other people and not nourishing you. So, you didn't develop an adequate sense of yourself, so your whole sense of worth comes now from helping other people and what's inside you is actually rather empty. Until you develop a clearer, fuller sense of yourself and ability to regulate your own affect and have more competency of self, you're not going to go out there and attract and or know what's attractive to you. It's a mess.
1:03:49🔗DrewOn paper, it sounds great. The reality is, your parents couldn't be parents.
1:03:52🔗AdamUnlike Drew's kids who are going to lie around their adult life yelling, fan me, and more peeled grapes.
1:03:57🔗DrewThat's right. They know what they want.
1:03:59🔗AdamThey're not taking care of anybody. Yeah. It's a balance you got to strike. You got to take care of them and you got to let them take care of themselves.
1:04:08🔗DrewYeah. She didn't get adequate nourishment and that's why the relationship is so empty because she's empty.
1:04:14🔗AdamThat is a weird message to send to your kids and yet, I don't want to criticize your parents too much for doing what is a noble thing. But you have kids and here's your new brothers and sisters. We're going to take care of them and then we're going to take care of some other kids and you can help us take care of them.
1:04:29🔗DrewAs a friend of mine said once when I was talking about people have six or seven kids in the house, I said how do they do it? They must love being parents and this one smart friend of mine said no, no, they don't like being parents.
1:04:50🔗CallerNothing. I don't know what's wrong with me, but every time after I have sex, I get totally grossed out by the guy. Don't even want him to touch me or be near me or anything.
1:06:11🔗DrewTime to grow up now and make some choices for yourself. Decide what you think about it. Not all that stuff from your past bearing down on you. You got to decide for yourself. And if you're going to live with integrity and you do think it's gross and bad, then don't do it so much. You don't feel so bad.
1:06:25🔗CallerI don't think it's bad. Okay. I enjoy it.
1:06:29🔗CallerAfter I'm just grossed out by it. I have no problems with having sex.
1:06:33🔗DrewYou hear that? That repetition, right? It's, hey, you can choose not to have sex because you truly believe it's not good. Or you can go ahead and have it and let go of all those preconceptions that other people have about it.
1:06:53🔗AdamAll right, Julie. I'm sure you'll go far. I don't care.
1:06:58🔗DrewI feel like I was at the blackjack table with her.
1:07:00🔗AdamListen, I don't think she was going to do any. I don't. Here's what I don't understand. If you call the show with a fairly basic problem, and then we go ahead and figure out what your past is based on your prom, you come from a religious family, your parents are Mormon, they told you sex was dirty, and then we make the connection as to why you feel grossed out and dirty after you have sex. We've worked all that out. Now, we've given you the answer. It's not necessarily the solution, it's just the answer. You have to make it the solution. But I don't think she really heard that or even made the connection.
1:07:35🔗DrewThe repetition compulsion is too profound.
1:07:37🔗AdamOkay, just keep having sex and feel dirty. I'll get my paycheck.
1:07:41🔗DrewIntegrity is, if you live with integrity, you don't have those bad feelings. The integrity is, I don't like having sex, it's dirty, so I don't have it. Hey, I feel good about it, and I can listen to my instincts about it, that's fine. Or I do like it, that's how I feel about it. All that crap that people have been telling me, that's them, and I'm still living with integrity.
1:08:03🔗AdamWell, you gotta do one or the others, what Drew is saying, because the way it's worked out now is you're just getting the sex and then the bad, and the guy doesn't care, you know, guys. Emily, you're 16, what's up?
1:08:17🔗CallerI lost my virginity to this guy on February 5th, and we didn't use any kind of protection, and I got really scared, and I told my mom.
1:09:04🔗CallerI don't know what to do, because I told my mom, I was like, yeah, you know, Cody and me got pretty physical. She was like, half physical. I'm like, well, as physical as you can get.
1:09:14🔗CallerYou're grounded from guys until you're 17, and blah, blah, blah, and you're not mature enough. And then by the end of that conversation, she was like telling me that it was rape and that he was gonna pay.
1:09:42🔗AdamWell, that's not true. They're they're a little slow, but I wouldn't call them retards. They have a disability. Retard is a very strong word for people who live in Idaho.
1:11:15🔗DrewIt's just the big, big reaction is the one that's going to be unfortunate.
1:11:19🔗AdamI'm not too sorry for this guy. He's 18 and a half, he's got a girlfriend, starts diddling around with a 16-year-old and he gets popped. Now he's calling, now he's very concerned.
1:11:31🔗AdamI like that. All right. Let him suffer a little and Emily will learn a lesson too and everyone will be humiliated. Mom can seek her vengeance for when she was raped possibly. Because the fact that she says she was raped and has a little energy with it makes me a little bit nervous but she can have her sort of cathartic experience through her child and everyone will be happy. Drew, we'll get our paychecks, right?
1:11:57🔗CallerYeah. How are you doing? Good. I'm just really, really glad that I got through. I've been trying to call you guys for the last year and it's always busy. When I masturbate, I always think about my girlfriend, right?
1:12:27🔗CallerThis one's been on my mind quite a bit.
1:12:29🔗AdamIt's general questions about your sexuality. Well, hold on a second. Not this one per se, but other ones dealing with his genital region. Alright, we'll take ourselves a little break. This is a common fantasy that guys have, and I think they commonly look at it as screwed up.
1:12:49🔗AdamAnd it doesn't necessarily mean anything about the guy. So we'll explore it when we come back, and we'll try to make Chris feel better about himself after this. Dave Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew over there, Mark Wahlberg, host of Tentation Island. He'll be in here tomorrow night, haven't seen him in a while. He's a good guy, friendly with him, and it'll be good to see him again.
1:13:43🔗DrewHe and I spent the evening together in New York.
1:13:54🔗AdamHoly Christ. Yeah. The guy's flails for five years, he gets one hit show, and he's hanging out with Michael Jackson? What kind of message is that to send to the hard working, nuts and bolts type celebrities like myself, the salt of the earth guys? Yeah, the cable guys. Thank you. Chris?
1:14:42🔗AdamBut not anyone she's actually had a relationship with.
1:14:46🔗CallerWell, yeah, that too. You know, she's like told me about, you know, her past and, you know, what the guy she's with.
1:14:53🔗DrewI will tell you, to me, the feeling that I'm hearing about these kinds of fantasies created in me are the same feeling I get when guys are preoccupied about anal sex. You know what I'm saying?
1:15:58🔗AdamDegradation camp. And this is the anal camp. I like to hang out in the BJ camp. That's my camp. You see? Drew hangs out by the ATM in the front of the camp.
1:16:11🔗AdamI'm in the boobs and blowjob camp. That's me. But here's the thing. You have an issue with women. You don't want to become that close, that intimate with them. And this keeps you a little bit apart. It keeps that feeling of a little distance. You know what I mean? I do the same thing. I got the same thing.
1:16:34🔗DrewReally? It's interesting. I was reading tonight about you, about people that have what you have, about the, listen, I was reading about kids that aren't sort of nourished properly during childhood and whatnot. And some kids, if they're over sort of aroused, over stimulated, you know, the parents need them to be super, you know, available to them and stuff, develop a sympathetic and sort of a, they're high strong. And there's another sort of version of that, which goes the other way, with kids sort of become hopeless and give up that they're ever going to get the nourishment they need and they become difficult to arouse. And those people typically avoid being noticed.
1:17:14🔗DrewYeah, you can't get your engine started. Nothing arouses you, nothing, you know.
1:17:19🔗AdamWell, no, nothing. I mean, I like, you know, I like woodworking model airplanes. That's what gets me going. But no, yeah, I got the same thing. And I understand that. And I think Chris is that way, too. And listen, all you can do is work on it. And that's it. You go to a little therapy and you're 25. It does get better with age. I was much worse at 25 than I am at 36.
1:17:43🔗DrewBecause the aggression of the biology is all there.
1:17:53🔗CallerYeah. I started seeing this girl a while ago and I've seen her for a couple of weeks. We were having sex and kind of lost interest. And so I just kind of did the weekend thing where I'd hook up with her on the weekends.
1:18:12🔗CallerSay for about a month or so. She caught on to that pretty quick though. And she asked me what was going on. And so I just tried to end it with her and she kept calling. And so I just tried the mean approach. Told her, leave me alone. And then she just shows up places I'm at and she tries to go out with my friends and stuff. And I can't get her to leave me alone. I'm two seconds away from kneecapping or just put her out of commission for a while and leave me alone.
1:18:44🔗AdamIs kneecapping or shooting her in the knee? Hey, Scott. Yeah. You just send a consistent message to her.
1:18:56🔗AdamAnd oh boy, God knows what kind of shape she's in. I spent a lot of time with Scott.
1:19:00🔗DrewBut Scott, this is the consequences of your behavior. You created the situation. You've harmed her with your behavior. Deal with it, okay? Be a little bit empathic.
1:19:10🔗AdamWell, first off, Scott doesn't know what empathic means. A, number one. And I learned what empathic meant six months ago, for Christ's sake.
1:19:19🔗AdamCould you do that, Scott? And be firm at the same time.
1:19:25🔗DrewShe'll give up, Venge. Just don't give her anything to go on.
1:19:27🔗AdamHey, listen, though. I was just talking about women and all that kind of stuff. You know, I've never had sex with any woman that I didn't like more than once. You know what I mean? I never struck up a relationship with someone I wasn't that into.
1:19:58🔗AdamI would say a thousand. I would say ten thousand. Ten thousand times. I've never had a sexual relationship where I did not like the person, where it wasn't some beer-fueled one-night stand kind of thing. I never went any further than that. Some guys will just any port in a storm kind of thing. They treat it like a job. It's like, I don't like this job but I've got to pay the bills.
1:20:29🔗AdamThey do it. Ladies, this is what guys do. Listen, if a guy ain't in, he ain't in. I mean, if he's saying, if you're on some kind of every other weekend maintenance schedule and you guys have known each other for a month and a half, he ain't in. Right. Know it. If you want to keep doing it, fine. Just understand it.
1:20:53🔗CallerWell, I have been going out with this guy and we're just like boofing buddies. He's a little bit younger than I am. He's the first guy I've ever met that doesn't like head. It's kind of an affront to me, I guess.
1:21:11🔗AdamThat's an affront to you and God and me and my family.
1:21:17🔗CallerI totally love going down and that's like ultimate power.
1:21:22🔗CallerIt's a power trip thing for me, I guess.
1:23:12🔗AdamYou dated for some years? Mm-hmm. You got married? Had a few kids. Had a few kids. I was going to read. That was all part of my read, by the way. The guy's an idiot.
1:23:47🔗DrewThat's the point. Listen to what we're saying is that people with your history will look for like a boy toy. They take some young guy who is way younger than they are and they just go, whatever, just at least-
1:23:58🔗CallerI have somebody that's my age, too, but it's just weird because-
1:24:02🔗AdamWhat do you mean you have someone that's your age, too?
1:24:04🔗CallerI'm going out with somebody that is 25, also.
1:24:15🔗CallerListen- I'm very responsible. I don't date when my kids are home. When they go with their dad on the weekend is when I go out. I don't party. I don't drink around my kids. I don't smoke, anything like that. When they're gone on the weekend with their father is the only time I go out.
1:24:29🔗AdamBut you understand they still have to be raised by crazy mama.
1:24:57🔗CallerI mean, I think my mother that she married him. I mean, he's absolutely wonderful.
1:25:00🔗AdamAll right. All right. You stay real stable for those kids, all right? All right. Get rid of this 19 year old. I don't trust him. He doesn't like DJs. And what the hell are you doing with him? You know what I mean? Are you that insecure?
1:25:15🔗CallerNo, absolutely not. He's really cute. He's got a nice body. And I mean, I don't have a problem going out with people my own age. It's like the first time I've ever gone out with anybody younger than me.
1:25:24🔗AdamAll right, mama. No more kids, please.
1:25:28🔗AdamAll right. Fantastic. All right. We'll take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Luke, who's 18, thinks a girl he got pregnant is lying because they used a condom after this.
1:25:42🔗CallerHello? Is this Loveline? Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.
1:26:23🔗AdamYeah, Mixmaster Anderson over there, spinning the tunes. Yeah, this is Rage Against the Machine, doing Cypress Hill. Those are my boys at Rage Against the Machine. I hear the Rage Against the Machine drummer lives by me, which everyone tells me all the time, but I never know who the guy is, what he drives, and I don't think I've ever met him. But people tell me that a lot, and I think they expect me to know. Do you know what I'm saying? Do you got any famous people live near you that people tell you about?
1:27:08🔗AdamNo. Kari Wurr, I called Kari Wurr a time or two. She doesn't call me back. It's been six months or something. Strange bird that Kari Wurr. Very, very strange. Some of these people, I'll call her twice a year, and she'll call me twice a year, but neither call will be connected to the others. She'll call me four months after I call her.
1:27:35🔗AdamRandomly? Yeah, I have no idea. All right. Well, oh yeah, yeah. Let's hear, let's hear Kari Warr sound stylings of Kari Warr.
1:27:45🔗Scrotum, scrotum, I like to keep your testes in. Yeah. Scrotum, scrotum, S-C-R-T-U-M. I'll keep them locked up in your B-B-Ds, unless you want to have them hang to your knees. Say it to everyone. Scroll them, scroll them, as X keep it to season.
1:28:06🔗AdamShe's a dynamite lady. She'll make a great mother one day. Luke, about 250 years. Luke, you're 18. What's up?
1:28:14🔗CallerAlright, this is my scenario. I met this girl about 6 weeks ago. 5 days after I met her, we had sex, and I used the condom. Then she had a period about a week after that, and then we had sex a couple of days after that again.
1:28:29🔗CallerYeah, with the condom. Same condom. Then a week later, we had sex again with the condom. And then earlier today, she tells me that she's 5 weeks pregnant.
1:28:38🔗DrewNow, where would that put, which of those contacts you describe would that be?
1:28:44🔗CallerWhich contact do you mean, like first or second?
1:30:29🔗AdamIt's like those people you hear about who lived in Flint, Michigan for 77 years, and then on their 78th birthday, they got an airplane to Europe and it crashed.
1:30:57🔗AdamThere may be a problem there. Hey, Drew, quick question about sperm banks. They say wait two days, no masturbating for two days before you go in. Do you know anything about that?
1:32:01🔗CallerHere's my question. I've been on the birth control pill for about two and a half years now and it seemed about around that time I started getting headaches on a daily basis. My doctor kind of passed off that it might be allergies.
1:32:13🔗DrewNo, headaches can, the pill can definitely cause headaches. In fact, true migraine is a reason not to take the pill. Really? One of the few.
1:32:21🔗CallerSee, and I've changed pills. You know, she thought that might work and my skin just ended up breaking out real bad and I had headaches still.
1:32:30🔗DrewWhy don't you just try a couple months off the pill, see what happens?
1:32:32🔗CallerBecause I'm kind of scared to do that.
1:32:34🔗CallerWhy? Well, I'm in a monogamous relationship right now and I'd be kind of worried that there might be a type of situation that might come up where maybe a condom wouldn't be available and I wouldn't want to, you know.
1:32:49🔗AdamSo go 10 minutes. You might have to break into a liquor store, like drive your car through the front door and break in and grab a handful of condoms.
1:33:11🔗CallerI've never tried anything like that.
1:33:13🔗CallerThe first person that I've been with is the first person I'm currently dating and I just, you know, started taking the pill as a precaution, you know? You know, because I want to be prepared for that type of situation.
1:33:22🔗DrewWait, so you are or are not sexually active with him?
1:33:37🔗CallerI just didn't... Just the rubber. I don't know. I just did not like the feeling of it. It just grossed me out big time.
1:33:44🔗AdamWhy don't you get the ones that are made out of the lamb's penis?
1:33:48🔗CallerAren't those not supposed to be as safe? Or is that only for STDs?
1:33:51🔗DrewIt's only for STDs. They're fine. Go ahead and try them for the natural feel.
1:33:55🔗AdamGet the lamb skin ones there. And when you close your eyes, just picture being raped at the intestines of a lamb. Oh, yum. Yeah. I don't know. And by the way, skin to me, not that much more appealing than gut.
1:34:11🔗AdamIt really isn't. You know, now, a lamb's seed covers, that sounds good. I could actually go for that in a condom. Add a little width, tickle the ladies a little bit. Good for the summer and the winter. Penis doesn't heat up so much in the, you know, keeps it warm in the winter. It's nice in the summer, nice shade over it. Angela?
1:34:38🔗CallerMy question actually isn't about anything relevant to my life now, but my husband and I of nine and a half years were recently talking about orgasms. And I had shared with him that since I was five, not only I know that it's kind of normal for a five year old to experiment, you know, feel out their body, but since that time I was able to bring myself to orgasm on a regular basis.
1:35:20🔗CallerAnd ever since. And I remember when I was fifteen, I became pretty preoccupied with it. I remember coming home from school and going straight to my room so I could just over and over and over and over.
1:35:33🔗AdamI actually had my room move closer to school so I could masturbate right after school.
1:35:38🔗DrewYou think you've been sexually abused?
1:35:42🔗CallerThat's hard to say. Before five, no. With my cousin, I feel that around seven, we messed around and he is four years older than me and I guess that is typically an abusive situation but I feel like I was kind of part of it.
1:36:03🔗DrewIt doesn't matter. It's to actually, when it's actually directed sex, when the penis is headed towards the vagina, a normal seven year old won't do that.
1:36:12🔗CallerRight. Well, it never actually came to intercourse. It was more of the before play type.
1:36:20🔗DrewYeah, but again, it's suspicious and that's what gets it.
1:36:24🔗AdamBut she was doing the masturbation thing at five before the fiddling with the cousins.
1:36:27🔗DrewBut I think somebody had it before that too.
1:36:31🔗DrewThat's what creates sexual compulsion. Yeah, but if you, okay, she's a sexual compulsion.
1:36:35🔗AdamHow dare you? Let me say this. If a woman is wired a certain way, and some women are, God love you, I've never been with one, but I hear that they're, from doing this show, that they're wired, some are wired a certain way. And so when they touch themselves, which you're bound to do at five, they get a sensation that a lot of people don't get. Yeah. And it's like, oh my God, this is great.
1:38:00🔗AdamHe's a dear, dear friend of Dr. Drew's, and just a dear friend of mine will be in tomorrow night. So we'll talk to him about that. Until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew's saying, Mahalo.
1:38:12🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management sponsors, or the station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.