1:13🔗AdamAnd yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, facts number 310-8-5-4-44-55. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. All right, earning his money, everybody. That's right.
1:35🔗AdamOne syllable for every 700 sentences. I get paid the same goddamn amount.
1:41🔗DrewIf I speak up, don't you smell a joke coming? Quiet down, quiet down.
1:45🔗AdamHow dare you try to steal my thunder? In front of the band. Mike, Joe and Chester are all here from Linkin Park. This is a band that impressed Dr. Drew and Lester.
1:56🔗AdamWell, I'm saying I'm easily impressed. But with you, unless there's a fat chick in a Viking helmet and a chest plate, singing, you're not easily impressed.
2:05🔗DrewThat's true. And that's exactly what we bring to the table. Yeah. That describes the band.
2:12🔗AdamWe we happen to see Linkin Park when the Mother Station, K-Rock out here was doing the Fantabulous Acoustic Christmas. And we don't usually see too many bands, but we always see the band before the next band that we have to announce.
2:28🔗AdamBecause they always get us out there too early. And then we stand around and watch the bands, pretty much the full set of the band before we bring the next band down.
2:37🔗DrewAnd usually we stand there and complain about the band.
2:39🔗AdamThat's right. Yes, we sound like the old guys from The Muppets. These kids, what are they listening to? This is noise. This is not music. I can't tap my foot to this.
3:08🔗AdamAnd this, this wasn't we didn't know you guys were coming on the show or anything. Drew just kept looking at me going, hey, these guys are really good.
3:14🔗DrewI said this, I said this, this is not what I said. Isn't this what those other bands are supposed to be?
3:22🔗AdamYeah, he did. He did say that. So there you go. Very high praise from Dr. Drew.
3:27🔗Linkin ParkYou should see the look on Mike's face right now.
3:29🔗AdamHoly crap. Hybrid Theory is the name of the CD. We will hear something off of that. I think we'll do since Linkin Park is you guys are a relatively new band. People around the country are just getting familiar with your work. We ought to hear one of the hits so everyone can put the band with the song, put them together, and then when we come back, they'll know who we're talking about. All right. If they don't already know. Anderson, you cued up over there.
6:41🔗AdamHey, there you go. It's the band there. It's Linkin Park. Hi, Britt. There is the name of the CD, and just so it doesn't sound like I'm doing all the talking for the band, you guys lean into that mic and tell us, tell us where we can find you, what's coming up, what to look for.
6:59🔗Linkin ParkWell, you can always find us on our website, which is linkinpark.com.
7:04🔗DrewWe're going to spell that just for the uninitiated.
7:06🔗Linkin ParkJust in case somebody hasn't seen the name around, it's spelled L-I-N-K-I-N. And we've been around for about four and a half years.
7:40🔗DrewYeah, pretty much. We're starting up in Seattle, working the West Coast for about a third of the tour. And then the other two thirds are trying to get back East.
7:48🔗AdamSo if people want to find out some of those dates, they can go on to the website.
7:51🔗Linkin ParkOf course. That's right. The website actually knows more than we do. Yeah. Amazingly, some people that actually run the website end up getting the information before the band does. It's kind of amazing.
8:02🔗AdamAll right. Let's hop on the phones and speak to Deanna. Deanna?
8:10🔗CallerYeah. My question is, my boyfriend and I, we were having sex and the condom, it fell off. It like just fell off. And we were using like spermicidal lubrication and he didn't ejaculate. I mean, we stopped when we found out that it did. And I wanted to know like the chances of like, if I could get pregnant or not, like how bad would it be?
9:06🔗DrewThe thing to do is get the morning after pill. Absolutely. This is the perfect time for that. You have another 24 hours to get it. You know what that is? Yeah, I do. It's not RU-486. It's either Prevent or Plan B or Oval or Low Oval. There's different ways to get it. Just take the pill. It's within three days of this kind of contact, any kind of unprotected sexual contact. Take a, usually it's two pills at that period of time, then two pills 12 hours later. And it prevents pregnancy with about 75% effectiveness. And it does it by preventing the eggs from being released, just like your birth control pill would work normally.
9:39🔗Linkin ParkRight. And you also might want to consider having more than one condom.
11:00🔗CallerAnd I wanted to talk to Linkin Park. You guys are cool. I never listened to that type of music before. And I heard it on MTV. And then, like, I just went out and I bought the CD and I love every single song. And I just wanted to know, like, what inspired you guys?
11:18🔗Linkin ParkPeople like you. Seriously. Actually, just growing up with all these different types of music that we enjoy, we've all enjoyed, you know, different styles, punk rock, hip hop, electronic music.
11:42🔗Linkin ParkAnd so, but we all got together and we pretty much, the whole idea was just to try to cross as many bridges of music that we could and bring in all the different things that inspired us and that we enjoy. So I'm glad that you like it. Thank you very much.
11:56🔗CallerYeah, because, like, I was hearing like the hip hop in there and that's what really got me. And also, my boyfriend just got me. And I've been listening to the song in the end. And, like, I just completely can relate with that song. I mean, I like every single song, but that song, that's my song right there.
12:42🔗CallerThe other week, I was in a fight at school and he kicks me in the balls. Particularly, my left one is really hurting and I have to lie down for it to stop hurting.
13:24🔗DrewYeah. They can be an emergency. You can get peritonitis. I mean, it is a very serious issue. If you're having that much pain, does the pain go up into the abdomen at all? Sometimes. Yeah, you gotta get seen right away. It's not something to wait for. If the pain gets bad tonight, you gotta go to the emergency room tonight.
13:37🔗Linkin ParkYeah, it's not like a pair of teeth. They don't grow back.
13:58🔗AdamWell, I know, but sometimes you're rolling around, you take a knee in the groin or something. Were you on the ground and he just kicked you right in the nuts?
14:04🔗CallerI was standing there, I threw a punch at him, and then he kicked me with his left foot right in the balls.
14:08🔗DrewLet me see, do you think it was intentional?
14:30🔗CallerHey, what's up, Adam? Hey. What's up? Yeah, I have a question. I was adopted at birth, my God. And I just found out recently that my real mom is trying to sort of track me down.
14:49🔗CallerBecause I found a note that totally coincidentally, that was left out by my mom, that was like from her. And my adopted mom didn't show it to me. And I was sort of, you know, I'm like now just questioning the whole thing. And I'm just like thinking about it all the time. And it's always in my mind.
15:06🔗AdamAnd what do you mean? And I know, I know. Hold on a second there.
15:23🔗DrewA year ago. And how did what your mom just was rummaging through some things and pulled it out left on the kitchen table. What happened here?
15:28🔗CallerIt was sort of, I just found it in a drawer that she probably like just stuffed it in randomly to hide.
16:15🔗CallerI'm not quite sure that, like, they talked or anything because my mom's really trying to hide it, my adopted mom.
16:21🔗DrewWhy don't you... It's sort of as though Perendora's box has been open. Why don't you go ahead and bring it up with your adopted mom? Because there's something that's bothering you.
16:27🔗DrewAnd you should have a chance to at least sort of deal with it with her. If she has a very strong feeling and a reason why you shouldn't make contact, maybe you'll sort of settle down about it. And also being able to sort of share these kinds of feelings with her might help them subside a little bit. Okay. Believe me, we get this call pretty... Now and then.
16:51🔗DrewYeah, but it usually happens when they find their adopted parents.
16:54🔗AdamIt's always... Yeah. I'm disappointed with my real parents. Where do you find them? I mean, these are horrible people. They're usually, you know, drug addicts and stuff. They're unfit. That's why they gave you up.
18:04🔗DrewWe don't like testimonials, do we? I'd like to say, that's it. Don't start any statement I love like with. And one more thing where I'd like to say.
18:12🔗AdamYeah, any declarations or shout outs are frowned on. All right. Well, he's out of the house. I think that makes a big difference. Yeah. Don't you think that's a factor? Yeah. All right. I think he's a man now. He can support himself. He can do what he wants. Yeah. Jessica? Yeah. You're 19. What's up?
18:29🔗CallerWell, I've never enjoyed any kind of physical contact, like kissing or anything like that. And I was just wondering if there's something wrong with me.
18:39🔗DrewDid you ever have anything happen to you that might lead to this?
19:18🔗DrewOkay. The Fexer can kind of shut you down. Not as much as some of the serotonin-reptaker drugs, but when you're on these antidepressants, sometimes things like kissing and physical contact seems like almost repulsive. It's like, oh, it doesn't make sense. So the medicines might be adding to something.
19:36🔗DrewI understand. And she has a mood disturbance, which might be creating it. And then whatever circumstances surrounding her becoming down with a mood disturbance, other than biology, might be contributing to this.
19:46🔗CallerA mood disturbance? Is there anything I can do about that?
20:02🔗AdamYour dad didn't take baths with you? You know, when you were 17 or anything?
20:07🔗DrewYou know, have you, Jessica, whoever, who's, is there a psychiatrist prescribing the effects in the Ativan? Have you talked to him or her about these feelings?
20:20🔗DrewBut the important thing is people don't bring this stuff up with their doctors. They don't realize that it can be treated as part of sort of what they should expect to feel better about themselves.
20:26🔗AdamWell, I wouldn't do it because I've seen enough porn movies to know that they're going to end up making out and the doctor's going to do her right in the office. You know what I'm saying?
20:40🔗DrewYou bring it up, Jessica, okay? That's an important thing for you.
20:44🔗AdamAll right. All right. Good times, though, right? Yeah, okay. I guess not. All right. Linkin Park is the band tonight who's in the Loveline Studio. We will take ourselves a little break when we come back this week. The John is 16, had sex with his stepsister. Oh, I want to know if it, what?
21:15🔗CallerLoveline will be right back. So get your problems ready. Ready.
21:37🔗AdamHey, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla. That'd be Dr. Drew over there. Mike, Joe, and Chester are all here from Linkin Park. We will hear something else off of the Hybrid Theory CD a little bit later on in the show, but as promised, when we left off, we're gonna go back to John, who's 16 years old, had sex with his stepsister. John?
22:36🔗AdamI know what it's like. You come home from the 11th grade, you went on wine. Loosen up the tie, throw down the peachy folder, grab a couple of high balls, kick your feet up. It's been a long day. PE, ceramics class, counselor breathing down your neck. Man's got on wine.
22:54🔗CallerWell, our parents are gone all night, so we plan to drink anyway. But then, I don't know, we started making moves.
22:59🔗DrewDid you guys know each other before you became related?
23:07🔗AdamI mean, we act surprised that it does happen, but we should be surprised that it doesn't happen. I mean, you take a couple, they're now 16 and 17, but you take like a 14 and 15-year-old, a couple attractive male and female, put them together, put them on the same roof, and separate them by three feet of hallway. What do you think is going to happen?
23:27🔗AdamI mean, if a guy will get on a beanbag chair, for Christ's sake, he'll get on a stepsister.
23:33🔗DrewPeople should think about that, because that really sums it up. You know what I'm saying?
23:37🔗AdamYeah, it's like looking at the beanbag chair, looking at the stepsister.
23:40🔗DrewLife lessons on Loveline. I mean, usually the beanbag chair, it's like that cartoon where the guys are on a deserted island, and one turns into a hot dog that turns into a hamburger.
24:36🔗AdamAlright, well listen, two weeks is a lifetime. If nothing happened since, it's probably not going to happen again. Don't get drunk with her when you're sitting around the house. Just pretend like nothing happened.
24:47🔗DrewYou have to really establish boundaries in this family system because it is a terribly unhealthy precedent.
24:52🔗AdamPut some hay bales in front of your door.
24:54🔗DrewListen, if I were in that house, there would be like steel boundaries. You know what I'm saying?
25:23🔗Linkin ParkBut there's just a certain wall of respect there that you shouldn't cross.
25:27🔗DrewIt suggests there's something going on with his step-sister. The fact that, you know, a year into the... Initiated it? It's not like initiating it with a blood sibling, but the fact that she didn't respect the boundaries in the household and was sort of acting out. He's just going with it because he's 16. The guy is 16, what do you expect?
26:07🔗DrewIn fact, good, you didn't make Anderson to completely eradicate that comment.
26:10🔗AdamYeah, we usually make use of that six-second delay so we can go back, take out the flattering thing said about Drew. We'll get that in the final edit before the East Coast feed tomorrow. Mark? Mark? Yeah. You're 19, what's up?
26:26🔗CallerAll right. Let me say how much I love Linkin Park. I saw you guys in Dallas with TOD. Thank you very much. Good word. And a few weeks ago I found my girlfriend. She we were at a club and she walks off for about, I don't know, two hours. She disappeared. And I meet up with her later on that night after she totally vanishes and she comes back over to my apartment and she's like, she's like some guys took me or whatever, whatever. And she thought she's got all these numbers in her pocket, like three numbers, three different numbers. I don't know who they're to. So I start, so I start, I tried to call it. I tried, I tried to call both, all three of them.
27:27🔗AdamI know we have these like long winded, open-ended prank calls just which you just I don't know.
27:32🔗Linkin ParkYou figure it out before you dial the number.
27:34🔗AdamYell the F word and hang up for Christ's sake. What's going on? It's like these short stories with no endings. And he can't even keep it together during what I would call just the sort of body intro. Yeah.
28:22🔗I found the drug and I found blaze and straws and mirrors. And I just wanted and I thought she quit after, you know, about a year ago. I thought she'd quit, but.
28:36🔗DrewDid she go for treatment? Was she involved in a program?
28:38🔗No, I was just sort of stupid and just thought that she gave it up on her own.
28:52🔗And I just wanted to know, you know, what to do about it.
28:57🔗DrewThis is going to sound harsh, but frankly, the way you really get the attention of people that are causing harm to their family because of drugs is fire. No law enforcement. I mean, when you know a deal is going down, call police.
29:14🔗AdamOh, really? Yeah. I mean, isn't it? I don't know.
29:17🔗DrewThat's what somebody did. That's what happened to what's the actor they've just gotten, Palm Springs, Martin Short.
29:34🔗Linkin ParkBut the cool thing about that guy is that he's not related, and it's not his mom. I think that's really hard to do. Is it like a family member, like your grandparents you can talk to? Maybe they could.
29:42🔗Well, I think that they know about it, but they're not really doing anything about it.
29:47🔗DrewThis is sort of a group of people that are steeped in denial and don't know what to do about it.
29:51🔗AdamBut hold on, let's explore other alternatives before she rants her own mom out, because she's going to be there when the cops show up. It's going to be a tough scene for a 14-year-old. Do you have any older sisters or older brothers?
30:03🔗No, I'm the oldest. I have a lot of younger siblings.
30:55🔗AdamSo, there's nobody. Does your mom have a brother or sister, an uncle or an aunt for you?
31:01🔗Yeah, she has an aunt, but I mean, I don't know. She's sort of always fighting with my mom. They all believe that, I mean, my grandparents know about it, but I just don't know. I don't think they're really helping.
31:14🔗DrewWell, certainly you can go to those family members that are aware and raise the auntie a little bit.
31:17🔗AdamI would enlist their help. I would go to grandma and grandpa or her sister and talk to them, although God knows what kind of shape they're in, but talk to them and tell her, tell them that you need to devise a strategy and something needs to be done on behalf of the kids.
31:31🔗DrewShe needs treatment. She really does. And it's not going to stop by itself. And the biology of cocaine is extraordinarily powerful. And she needs help. She's sick. And she should get that. If she can't be awakened to that reality, then somebody's got to shake her into it. Tough love.
31:47🔗AdamYeah. Sorry you got to be the parent, Sarah.
32:32🔗DrewBy the way, why is it melodramatic to say that she drove her siblings home from the hospital, but it's not to say that she drove her cell phone from the hospital when she was born.
32:38🔗AdamI was using hyperbole and artistic license to make a point.
32:44🔗DrewI was using irony. No, I was not serious.
32:46🔗AdamNo, you were not serious. You were using crapetry is what you were using. Matthew?
33:34🔗Linkin ParkWell, no. When I travel, all my bags have to be properly placed and they have to stay in that way. So I kind of understand that, but maybe it's a mental thing.
33:41🔗DrewYou're afraid the plane will go down if it's not-
33:44🔗AdamRight. Well, it makes perfect sense if you think about it. Don't make fun of the man. But why did the sneezing part sort of trigger something in you?
33:56🔗Linkin ParkI just, it just sounds like something an obsessive-compulsive person would do.
34:01🔗DrewInteresting. He sounds obsessive-compulsive.
34:36🔗AdamAnd is it the kind of thing where you sort of decided that you're gonna do it, and so now from this day forth you do it?
34:44🔗CallerNo, it was honestly what happened was it was one of the things where I was with my ex-girlfriend, my currently ex-girlfriend, and it just happened. And didn't think about it very much. It was just like, oh okay, I sneezed. Then it started happening again, like constantly every time that we would have sex. And it actually, it was one of the things that was embarrassing at first, but then you kind of got used to it and we started laughing at it. Like when we were out at Walmart or something, I sneezed and she'd give me a funny look like I wanted to have sex right then.
35:29🔗DrewAnd this is not something, it's not as though I've never heard of this before because I have. And it makes some sense that during arousal there's all sorts of changes in your vascular tone, and there may be some dilatation of the vessels in the nose, and things may ooze a little bit and may trigger some sneezing.
35:51🔗DrewIt keeps happening. I love the idea that some obsessive compulsive trait, but I've never thought of that. Well. You know, he's dealing with it.
35:58🔗AdamYeah, I don't know. At least he's not farting. Matthew?
36:05🔗CallerUsually laying down on the bed. I'm usually either getting ready to pull my pants down and get undressed or we're in the middle of foreplay.
36:55🔗AdamAll right. We'll take ourselves a little break. Linkin Park is our guest tonight, and we'll be back with Donald. He's married, hasn't had sex with his wife in a year. 22 years old.
37:31🔗AdamAnd it is Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Mike, Joe and Chester are all here from Linkin Park. And when we left off, we were about to speak to Donald. Donald's 22. Married for how long? Two years. Two years. Hasn't had sex in a year?
37:52🔗Well, we haven't had sex since she got pregnant with our second kid.
37:55🔗AdamI see. And you think she has some of that depression going on?
38:00🔗Well, like I kind of know that. She's definitely had a little postpartum going after the first one. And when she got pregnant with the second one, which we didn't plan on, but we're happy about it. We can afford it. We're not doing that bad off. And we definitely have the love in the house for it. But, you know, it's kind of, when she got pregnant with the second one, it took us both by surprise. She's just been kind of getting a little more and more depressed since we got pregnant with the second one.
38:32🔗I don't know. We brought it up with her doctor, her OB, several times. And he's referred her to counselors and things like that. She's been doing some counseling for time management, anger management, stress management, stuff like that. And I've been doing some anger management counseling, too, because we had some domestic problems that were going on and had a lot of DV calls and had a lot of...
38:55🔗DrewSounds like a lot of love in that house.
39:36🔗No, I don't threaten her. This last time, I needed to go to work, she didn't want me to go to work, she took the car, she started to pull out of the parking space, I kicked the side of the car, put a dent in it, I got in trouble for it.
39:50🔗DrewYeah, that would be an aggressive act, okay?
39:52🔗That's really the only violence I've ever committed was that, and I kind of learned the hard way that that's not appropriate.
40:01🔗Through the counseling that I've gone through, I've learned that.
40:05🔗DrewAlright, well there's a lot more to be done here than just managing overt violence, and it sounds like her postpartum depression needs to be taken very seriously, and she shouldn't just be seeing time management people, she should be seeing a psychiatrist, and this thing should be managed thoroughly.
40:24🔗Yeah, I tried mentioning to her doctor that, about that, about-
40:28🔗DrewNo, no, no, no, no, no, no. You go in and you say, look, we need a referral, and that's it. Are you on an HMO or something?
40:34🔗No, we don't have, our medical insurance is pretty crappy in this state, I mean-
40:40🔗DrewWell, you got to, you got to ask for a psychiatric referral and demand it, because she needs that. And this is not going to get better just with time management, and anger management will keep things sort of from erupting once again, but you need a lot more than that. It shouldn't be a surprise. You shouldn't be surprised that she doesn't want to have sex. There's been awful aggression here.
40:58🔗Well, really, there's also, you know, the doctor said that he doesn't really recommend it because of some of the physical problems she's been having lately.
41:09🔗I'm not quite sure because I don't understand a whole lot of what he's saying. He kind of talks over us. He doesn't really talk to us.
41:17🔗DrewShe needs, listen, I can't think of a single medical or gynecologic obstetrical issue that would prevent, preclude a thorough psychiatric assessment. I can't think of one. There's just no such thing. In fact, most medical issues intensify the need. Makes it more complex. So you see to it that she gets the right care, okay?
41:37🔗AdamAll right. Well, this started off like a decent call. Then lots of love and house. I want to know what's going on with that time management counselor. Let's say I brought my list in of things to do. Beat husband with rolling pin.
41:49🔗Linkin ParkDrive car into the neighbor's car.
41:51🔗AdamInto swimming pool and or car. Hit husband with frying pan. Set house on fire. It's not even noon yet. So, oh my god.
42:04🔗DrewBut you know those guys are always much more involved in this than you might expect.
42:09🔗AdamYeah, well it started off as, well she popped out a kid, had a little depression and they're trying to work it out. There's a lot of love in the house. They're financially secure and then it sort of weaves into this tale about cops showing up.
42:44🔗CallerYou're welcome. Well, I'm sorry, this is hard for me. I found out that I was pregnant and I've been with this guy for like four months and then I told him and he goes, I can't do anything about it. I'm like, what do you mean? And he said he was married.
43:04🔗DrewAnd what does do anything about it mean? Do you expect him to get married to you at that point?
44:39🔗DrewWell, now, wait a minute. Let's get realistic about your planning going forward here. You start boot camp on Thursday? And you're planning on having the baby?
44:54🔗DrewIf you're going to have the child, you are not going to boot camp. And if you've made that decision, you better start planning around that. And that's fine. And adoption is a wonderful option.
45:00🔗AdamAs long as they keep her out of the obstacle course, I don't see a problem.
45:02🔗DrewAnd maybe boot camp is something you can delay or do perhaps later, but you are not going this week if you're pregnant.
45:23🔗AdamToday's Air Force. I bet they're hip to this. I bet there's some contingency plan. I bet if you told them your situation, they would postpone something and tell and blah, blah, blah.
45:57🔗AdamDo you have a recruiter you can talk to?
45:58🔗CallerYeah. I thought about talking to him, but I wasn't sure. That's why I called you.
46:02🔗AdamI think you should be straight up with him.
46:05🔗DrewYou really should. And this guy, the guy you were hooked up with is a total loser, a-hole. And you got to look at, honestly, look at yourself, search yourself, why you would ever get involved with somebody this unavailable and this much of an idiot.
46:18🔗CallerThe whole thing was just lies. He told me everything was a lie.
46:20🔗DrewBut you've got to learn from this and you've got to really begin to look more honestly at your own feelings and who other people are. And it sounds like you have some real solid moral foundation for your beliefs and you should act accordingly, stay true to your integrity.
46:35🔗AdamAlright, so adoption, talk to the recruiter, postpone the Air Force and it's all gonna work out.
46:41🔗AdamAlright, Linkin Park's our guest tonight. We'll take a little break. When we come back, we'll talk to Cephas, who can only have sex if he masturbates first. And why bother, I say, but we'll get to the bottom of that after this.
46:58🔗CallerLove Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
47:35🔗AdamLoveline! I screwed that one up. I usually squeeze something good in there, but I just couldn't get it together. Mike, Joe and Chester are all here from Linkin Park. We will hear something off Hybrid Theory, which is the name of their newest CD in some time in the next half hour. So when we left off, we were going to speak to Cephas, I believe he's 25 years old. Cephas?
48:13🔗Linkin ParkThis goes out to Drew more than anybody. I just got married two weeks ago. And up until that time, I abstained from masturbating and having sex.
48:25🔗Linkin ParkFor a year. And I wanted to, you know, make it special when I married, you know, when I married my wife right now.
48:34🔗DrewIs she someone you had had sex with previously?
48:36🔗Linkin ParkNo, I had not had sex with her previously. But the last girl that I had had sex with, the same problem existed. I would try to have sex and I cannot make ejaculate and I can't come inside of a girl inside in a rubber or without one. They could be on the pill or the only way that I am able to come.
48:59🔗DrewI can't even, even with oral or Adam has a theory about this one.
49:07🔗AdamOh, I see. Yeah. So did you masturbate excessively before you went cold jerky for that year?
49:15🔗Linkin ParkNo. Well, I had, you know, I had lots of sex partners, but I've been masturbating like since I'm probably the age of eight. Eight. Yeah.
49:25🔗AdamEight? Eight with results, with something coming out of you at eight?
49:30🔗Linkin ParkAt the age of 11, I can remember when it didn't come out, but at the age of 11, I can remember the first time actually. Wow.
49:37🔗DrewWell, that kind of suggests that you were sort of inappropriately aroused, potentially at a young age. Was there a lot of porn or something in your house?
49:44🔗Linkin ParkNo, not a lot of porn. I found a back massager in my parents' dresser. It's just like an old Sears back massager. I was like, Yahoo. I stuck it down my pants and was like, whoa.
50:10🔗Linkin ParkWell, I wouldn't go that far. My major problem is that my wife is feeling the results of this. All right.
50:17🔗DrewNow, I wonder if that sort of desensitized some of his developmental pathways, you know, if some of that arousal inappropriately with a mechanical device made him sort of desensitized in some way.
50:29🔗AdamI just think it's funny how long it takes a vibrating object to go from a guy holding it up and examining it to write on to the junk.
50:37🔗DrewEven before he knows what the junk's all about.
50:39🔗Adam8.3 seconds, that says the average. I know a guy whose first masturbatory experience was with a pad sander. You know, those Finnish sanders, those vibrating sanders?
51:26🔗Linkin ParkNo, it's not like I have to then, like because I have like a butt fetish too, so I have to have look at her butt for me to even be able to.
52:12🔗AdamHold on a second. He has like an attention deficit disorder or something. He has some kind of screw loose kind of energy going on. He can barely stay with the conversation.
52:43🔗AdamAll right. Now, what if you assume that same position and she then got on top of you and turned around, good call, Drew, turned around so that you could see the TV set more. No, what were you going at? Oh, yes. You could see her ass. Don't you think something may come out of you at that point?
53:05🔗Linkin ParkI did try it and tried it numerous of times.
53:08🔗AdamWhat if you got yourself going to right at the brink that she jumped on top?
53:13🔗Linkin ParkWell, that's how she got pregnant. I mean, I got myself going. And right before I was ready to erupt, she would jump on and finish. Okay.
53:24🔗AdamNow, what if you do that same technique, but except for right before you're ready to erupt, you knock it back a few minutes?
53:33🔗DrewOr if vibrator is what's sort of desensitizing, what about getting something like that back involved?
53:37🔗AdamYeah. How about putting that in your ass?
53:42🔗Linkin ParkI mean, maybe your wife could also, you know, offer a hand in that at the end too. That might help her feel like she's contributing to you.
53:51🔗Linkin ParkIn what way offer, like doing what?
53:54🔗Linkin ParkWell, instead of you finishing yourself off, why don't you let your wife finish you off?
53:57🔗Linkin ParkThat's the thing. As soon as she touches me, it won't work. It's like I have this position that I put my hand on it, and it's like I can only ejaculate that way.
54:17🔗AdamI know. All right. Here's what's going on. No, I know what's going on. I mean, you've been doing this so often and for so long, and your penis is used to this very specific sensation, and anything else feels sort of foreign. But a lot of it is emotional and psychological, and you have to sort of get over that hump, pardon the pun. And I would say that if you worked on yourself a little bit, and instead of getting right to the brink, you got a few minutes away from the brink, and got her on top, and you went. All you need is one of those to then sort of erase the stigma in your mind and be able to go forward from this point.
54:58🔗DrewAnd you have to find a way not to be so anxious about it. You are so anxious you can't even follow a conversation. You have to calm down about all this. Okay.
55:37🔗Linkin ParkGuys, to that band, man, you guys rock, man. I've never heard of you before, but good luck with your career. I think you guys are going to make it. Thanks, C-Fish.
55:58🔗AdamOh, no, no, that's snakes aphorism, which is sex is good, but it's not the real thing. And then he does the hand gesture and we all laugh hysterically. It was funny when I was 19, at least. But I think he's got to get his wife involved. And I think he had the right plan there of her hopping on at the end. Now he ought to see if he can have her hop on a little bit sooner and a little bit sooner. And eventually all his penis has to do is get used to it one time that way and he'll be fine.
56:27🔗DrewHe needs some practice, right? It's so fascinating to think, though, is this, and he fetishizes, is there some psychological issue? I mean, was he hyper aroused at a young age? Or was it merely that he got his hands on this instrument that desensitized him in some way at such a young age that developmental pathways didn't even set up?
56:43🔗AdamRight. I think it's probably all of the above. Jessica?
56:50🔗CallerOkay. I've been on Depropavera for about four and a half years. And so I haven't had a normal period for a long time. And I know that's how the body naturally cleanses out the vagina and everything. And so I'm wondering if there's a different way to, I guess, cleanse myself out since I'm not.
57:08🔗DrewNo, there's no cleansing needed because you don't overgrow the endometria.
57:41🔗Linkin ParkYeah, and the odor and things like that.
57:43🔗DrewYeah, absolutely. I'm sure she's been treated a number of times, right? Yes. Yeah, and so it's very simple to treat. The problem is you can pass it back and forth, partners can give it to you. Any sort of disruption of that sensitive environment in the vagina can actually trigger off these kinds of infections.
57:58🔗AdamAnd they change their diet or do anything differently?
58:01🔗DrewYeah, you know, I've had patients where you could never, you know, people thought it was, where they thought it was something coming from the colon or how they wipe. I'm all kinds of theories, but most of the time, no matter what, you can't figure it out with the people that have recurrence of these problems.
58:21🔗DrewProbably not. And there is an estrogen combo with the depo-provera now. You could talk to your doctor about that, that might create some bleeding.
58:27🔗AdamYeah, he supersized that depo shot. And he got the side estrogen.
58:35🔗AdamYeah, I'll have the... Well, the mood swings are actually......the thousand island and the estrogen.
58:39🔗DrewThat actually is a serious issue. The mood disturbances from depo-provera can be really serious. So you need to talk about that with your doctor. That to me is a reason potentially to stop it.
58:50🔗CallerYou're thirty-two. What's up? Well, I'm from the LA area and my wife really likes the band. I want to tell you guys, your record is really definitely great. But, you know, I took off work and I drove my wife up to a show in Phoenix where you guys played. You know, we've been married a couple years. She's younger than me. And, you know, after the show we were hanging out and she was kind of like talking to a few of the guys that work for the band. And, you know, she wanted to go back and get an autograph and stuff. And, you know, this big bald guy who works for us.
59:59🔗AdamThanks, Stefano. If you're a guitar tech, you get to get out there and play some licks before the band hits the stage, right? Yeah. Yeah. We thought that'd be pretty cool. Sometimes if you play big enough venues, the crowd thinks it's the band. You know what I'm talking about?
1:00:28🔗CallerLike a little while ago, I've been with my boyfriend for like a couple of months now, and he asked me to shave my pubic hair a little while ago, like a couple weeks ago. And I'm not like really hairy or really bushy or anything. He just, I don't know, he thought that he'd be like kind of sexy, I guess. And so I did last like a couple days ago, and I was fine because I wasn't wearing underwear for a while because I thought it would like, I don't know, give it some time to, I don't know, so I wouldn't irritate the skin or whatever.
1:01:06🔗AdamYou really got you really have a gift for words there. I don't know. Gabby, Gabby, share all the color. Was that, I mean, was it like, you know, quarter inch long, the hair, eight inch?
1:01:16🔗CallerNo, no, no, I mean, he just like, shave it like small, like.
1:01:30🔗CallerYeah, like on the sides and on the top and stuff, just make it a little, like, like in porn, they always have these little triangles. I don't know.
1:01:36🔗DrewRight, it's easy for you to talk about it, isn't it, Shia?
1:01:41🔗AdamThat's all right, okay, so you did that.
1:01:43🔗CallerYeah, and as soon as I started wearing underwear again, like it really irritated the skin and now I have these like red bumps and they like itch.
1:02:19🔗AdamIt wouldn't be a bad name for something. I'd buy Canada. Now I know what the stuff is called and I can't remember the name of it, but the point is if you go to like a beauty supply store and tell them you want to get some cream or some salve or something for bikini waxing or bikini area, they'll tell you, they'll give you something.
1:03:28🔗AdamNo, it's the same theory though. It's the same stuff, which is you shave these hairs. These hairs are thick, coarse hairs. For me, it's not a different hair. I have pubic hair on my neck.
1:03:40🔗AdamYou know what I'm saying? This is why black men get that shaving rash, get those bumps on their Adam's apple.
1:03:47🔗DrewThere's a cream that's out now, Vanica, that will actually make the hair, it is an enzyme that dissolves the production of the hair. The hair won't come out. Even for people with shaving, they can shave every two weeks.
1:04:02🔗DrewNo, no, for her, yeah. But for you, Vanica, we got to get that.
1:04:07🔗AdamCan you get that? Yeah. Is it prescription?
1:04:09🔗DrewYeah, it's going to be a huge deal. It's primarily, originally, it was for women with that sort of Semi-Am hair on their face, that light hair, that doesn't go away with laser.
1:04:20🔗DrewSo it was to take care of that, but they're now realizing they can use it on other areas of the body. Men can use it, they have irritating shaving hairs.
1:04:26🔗AdamGive me a nice 50-gallon drum of that, and a couple of tongue depressors so I can apply. But go to the beauty supply store and get this stuff. There's a whole section of razor bump stuff that's for the bikini area and use that stuff.
1:04:41🔗DrewIn the meantime, let's listen to a song.
1:04:42🔗AdamOh, okay. This is a little something from Linkin Park, and this one is called Crawling.
1:08:40🔗AdamYeah. We're going to take a break. We'll be back.
1:08:42🔗CallerGood. Loveline, we'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.
1:09:19🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Linkin Park is our guest tonight. Mike Jones, Chester are all here from the band. Hybrid Theory is the name of the CD. And let's hop back to the phones and talk to Chris. Chris is 19. Chris.
1:09:40🔗CallerOkay. I have a girlfriend. She's also 19, and we have a 15-month-old son. Okay. The problem is when she was younger, she kind of sort of had a kind of sort of like a molestation scare. It was a family member that kind of sort of acted on an impulse and just kind of sort of like freaked her out when she was in kindergarten or something.
1:10:10🔗CallerI guess they were just like walking, and he pulled her into like some bushes and jumped on top of her and started kissing her. And then he realized what he did and got off. And that was it. Okay.
1:10:37🔗DrewThat's not it. Whatever's going on now, that's not what it's from.
1:10:41🔗AdamHow do you know? Maybe nothing's going on now. Oh, okay. Could have been college to say everything was A-okay.
1:10:49🔗CallerAbout when she was a freshman in high school, okay, she was raped. I believe that she was with some friends or whatever and she got high and he started hitting on her and she passed out and woke up and he was on top of her and she went and passed out again, okay. I believe a couple months later she got raped again, okay. I got, she never told anybody. Me and her started going out our sophomore year and she's the only person, I'm the only person she's ever told about that.
1:11:40🔗CallerAnd we also separated for a month and she got raped then too.
1:11:44🔗DrewThere's more here than even you know I suspect, but go ahead, what's the question?
1:11:49🔗CallerOkay, the question is, since we have a son, she needs to address this. She's gone to a therapist before and she really liked him and everything, but she never told him about that. Okay, I'm the only person she's ever told about that.
1:12:27🔗AdamShocking, because this is somebody who comes from a bad family. If she's getting raped, you know, repeatedly, and she's, you know, not even 20 yet.
1:12:36🔗CallerI mean, it's not the same person doing it.
1:12:39🔗DrewWe understand that, but this is not just about rape. This is a much more global issue of her psychiatric health.
1:12:47🔗DrewAnd that needs to be dealt with. Rape counseling is a great idea, and going to a rape group, a women's group, would be helpful, but it will not be the whole story.
1:13:22🔗AdamAnd I'm sure if we ever scratch beneath the surface of her mother's history, we find a lot of rape and abuse in there, too. I'm almost positive of it.
1:13:39🔗AdamAlright, Chris. Your instincts are good. And, you know, don't make it all her work. Say, we, we, we, and then go, I made an appointment for you. That's what I do.
1:13:48🔗CallerI mean, I try to help her out as much as I can. I mean, her mom won't pay for it. You know, she says if anybody needs therapy, her mom does. And I have her to pay for, I have her to pay for everything, you know. But she says the insurance won't cover it and this and that.
1:14:01🔗DrewWell, if you're offering to pay for everything, what the hell difference does the insurance make?
1:14:06🔗AdamYour instincts are good. But you do have your hands full here. And she's got to get going with this because she will screw that kid up. Alright.
1:14:16🔗AdamAlright. Well, these guys, it's really like a 19-year-old guy with the 15-month baby and this chick who came from basically a Cuisinart, is really like, he might as well just be at the helm of a battleship going into battle. You know what I mean? I mean, he just used a transporter from Star Trek to land him at the helm of a battleship during a full-fledged Kamikaze attack. He's not a bad guy, may have a few decent instincts, but he just lost.
1:14:58🔗CallerI have a question for the band Linkin Park. You guys are the best. Thanks. I want to know where you guys came up with the name Linkin Park. Where did you guys get it from?
1:15:09🔗Linkin ParkActually, we were in need of a new name. There's a park in Santa Monica. It was one of those things. I just kind of read it and said, you know, that'd be a cool name for a band. Put it on my list.
1:15:21🔗CallerBut you need a backtrack because we used to be called, the name of our album is Hybrid Theory.
1:15:52🔗CallerOf course. I was there and I was wondering if you guys remember me. Chester and Mike. Mike, I gave you a bracelet and I want you to wear my glasses.
1:16:08🔗CallerOh, it was like a metal one, just like a little ball bracelet. And I asked you where my glasses and you said, like, no, I can't sing like that, it's a ball. And then Chester, when I was coming out of the parking lot, I saw on the CD you had bleach tears, so I didn't notice you like at the concert, you know, because you had different hair. And you're coming out and I said, nice pants, and your girlfriend, I guess, maybe, said, thanks. I'm like, well, not you, him, because they're both wearing red dickies.
1:17:54🔗CallerIt's adults too. They're telling me that I have a split personality. And like, I'll be different around one group of people than I would be with a different group of people.
1:18:05🔗DrewAre they saying this like for real? Is it like joking or they're serious?
1:18:19🔗DrewDescribe to me specifically how you act in one group as opposed to the other.
1:18:24🔗CallerLike in one group, they say I'm like really depressed all the time and I won't talk and I'm just totally oblivious to everything and then in the other group I'm just like myself, I'm hyper and happy and-
1:18:39🔗DrewAnd when you are in either of these states, are you aware of your surroundings? Do you know who you are?
1:19:16🔗AdamSo when you're the depressed one, you're out of it, right?
1:19:20🔗DrewYou may dissociate a little bit or you may just have a severe depression that may make you feel kind of out of it. Were you badly abused when you were a child?
1:19:28🔗DrewBecause that's what creates split personality.
1:19:30🔗Linkin ParkAnd these different types of groups of people, are these like different groups of family or are they your friends? Are you depressed around your friends or are you happy around your friends when you're with your family or sad or is it opposite?
1:19:42🔗CallerIt's like, it's opposite. It could be any different group though.
1:20:03🔗DrewI suggest she get worked up medically to make sure it's not something unusual, neurologically going on with her, because she seems confused about these symptoms. She's not aware of them, she has no insight into them, and yet other people are aware and concerned.
1:20:14🔗AdamI don't know, it didn't sound like much to do about nothing. Kim?
1:20:47🔗DrewYeah, get it checked out. Maybe it's just normal behavior for you. Maybe you're a little bit depressed, but you're how old? 15? So that's not so uncommon to have significant personality change.
1:20:55🔗AdamKeep your parents out of your room. Yeah, your parents barge in on you when you're 15?
1:21:00🔗DrewThat one is on the phone. Not like that, like every three minutes.
1:21:02🔗AdamYeah. My dad was, I think, scared to death he was going to catch me whacking off so he didn't come in the room. From like 13 to the time I moved out, he never came in. He just talked through the door. I had a slot put in the door that slide the food under that. You know, I got one hour of recreation every day out in the yard. Pick and fight with other gang members.
1:21:21🔗DrewCrabbed in a popcorn can. I wouldn't be in that room either.
1:21:24🔗AdamI'm glad you brought that up, Drew. I really am.
1:21:28🔗AdamI didn't have a bathroom and I got locked out of the house. I was living out in the garage and I had a nice decorative popcorn tin. It worked. Uncle Vince and Aunt Pat sent me.
1:21:40🔗DrewDid you put cat litter in there or anything?
1:21:44🔗AdamI had the dignity to do that. It was a nice five-gallon decorative tin and it had a snap lid on it. I was locked out of the house. What was I supposed to do?
1:22:15🔗AdamYeah. All right. Well, let's hope so. We'll hold on. All right. Linkin Park is our guest tonight. We'll take a little break and we'll be back. Love Line, I was surprised when the show starts. Linkin Park is our guest tonight. Hi, Brad. There is the name of the CD. And Drew is back, took himself a nice leak over there, right?
1:23:09🔗DrewHad a little brainstorming with Ann about who this band's where we're talking about.
1:23:12🔗AdamRight. Got some answers to some questions that didn't matter.
1:23:20🔗AdamHi, so you're fifteen. You've had sex fourteen times. And you still don't enjoy it?
1:23:28🔗CallerNo, it doesn't feel good or anything.
1:23:29🔗DrewTo me, this sort of goes to the eternal mystery of why fifteen-year-old female would have sex. Because it doesn't feel good to most of them.
1:25:01🔗AdamAnd what percentage of women enjoy sex age 15 to 18, and then 18 to 21, and 21 to 24, and so on and so on and so on. But you would just see it just going right up. Just right up.
1:25:20🔗AdamYeah. There are women who are 15 who enjoy sex, but it's not most of them. And it's not even close to half of them. Now, there are women who enjoy the intimacy, the contact and the pleasing and all that kind of stuff. But just actual enjoying the sex, I don't think so. Yeah. And it's no wonder I couldn't get laid in high school. Nobody liked it. And the ones that did like it weren't going to do it with me. I found that out. It was bad times is what it was. But Jesus Christ, when we get into the 30s, look out, look out. They call the show, they're having orgasms on them. They went to the gym, they got on some treadmill and they bowed, bowed orgasm. That's great. Yeah. It's just you got that to look forward to. Except for you don't really want to nail them as bad. That's the sad, sad irony. It's the 17 year old, that new-billed 17 year old who doesn't like sex, that's the one you want. Right, Drew? That's right. Leanne, you're 19.
1:26:20🔗CallerWell, about a week ago, me and my boyfriend were having anal intercourse.
1:26:25🔗AdamSee what I'm talking about? Frigid at 19.
1:26:28🔗CallerAnd he made me bleed, and I had to go to the emergency room because I was feeling light-headed, and I was bleeding for about eight hours.
1:26:37🔗AdamYeah. And I would love to inflict that kind of damage on a woman just once in my life. And a woman, imagine how much high-fiving. Where's Leanne? She's on IV drip. They don't know if she's going to make it, quite frankly. What have it? Nailed her from behind. Nice. All right. So into the hospital, is he really big?
1:27:06🔗DrewSo what was it that had happened to you, a tear?
1:27:08🔗CallerYeah. They did the scope and they found tears.
1:27:11🔗DrewNice. This is why when people talk about anal sacrosanct, they go, what's the big deal? Sexually transmitted diseases. This is not that uncommon a thing to have tears and hemorrhoids and whatnot. And it can be serious if the bleeding really gets going.
1:27:23🔗CallerYeah. Well, he told me he was going to go away and he gave me some painkillers for it.
1:27:33🔗DrewI mean, you know, this country is very concerned about health care expense. Right. I'd like to see a comparison between dollars spent on this kind of outcome as opposed to say secondhand smoke.
1:27:44🔗DrewI'm sure there are more dollars spent actually on this.
1:27:46🔗AdamOh, absolutely. More people would be killed erectally than for a secondhand smoke, I'm sure of it. I'm going to conduct a study, an informal study held in my basement, but it'll be a study nonetheless. Leanne?
1:28:07🔗CallerWell, I'm still bleeding and the doctor told me I was going to probably not have control of my muscles down there.
1:28:13🔗DrewOh, man. Forever or just for the time being?
1:28:16🔗CallerWell, he said it could be permanent.
1:28:18🔗DrewWow. That is awful. What can happen is you can get scarring and things and it can be a big match.
1:28:24🔗AdamLeanne, have people contacted you about doing a PSA for like some late night FM radio? Perhaps this show? No. I could just see a nice testimonial. You and using a walker trying to get around. Pictures of you playing softball in the younger years enjoying life, enjoying outdoor life. Now, you know, chain smoking on a specially constructed chair. Leanne, I am sure your ass will bounce back from this.
1:28:54🔗DrewYeah, but it can stricture. It can be a big mess.
1:28:57🔗AdamAll right. And it's something you got to look after. Yeah. But we've all learned a valuable lesson. There's a story in the Bible about this, isn't there, Drew?
1:29:28🔗DrewYeah. How far from Sacramento are you?
1:29:31🔗CallerSacramento, probably about two or three hours.
1:29:34🔗DrewYou're going to be in Sacramento? Yeah, we're going to be in Sacramento. Like we said earlier, all the dates are on the website though. So you can figure out what the closest thing is there.
1:29:53🔗DrewYeah, they should be announcing the list of bands for the next Acoustic Christmas. Yeah, pretty soon.
1:29:58🔗AdamI mean, could you just... I don't know, I was just thinking when she started talking about the doctor saying she may never be right and there's still continuous bleeding and so on and so on. I picture her dying from this and someone talking to her father like eight months. How's Leanne doing? She passed away. What happened? Moped accident. Tragic, very tragic.
1:30:25🔗Linkin ParkYeah, how do you explain that one?
1:30:26🔗AdamYeah, I mean, no, no, there'd be some quick, be some quick spin, a quick spin put on that one with the family. Wouldn't there be, Drew?
1:30:38🔗AdamLet's talk to Annette, you're 17. What's up?
1:30:42🔗CallerHey, I don't believe Linkin Park. You guys are amazing and recently, like last week, my friend, she's actually one of my closest friends, she just told me that she was lesbian. She sort of tipped me off before by saying how she thought, all these girls are so hot, but I kind of brushed it off because a lot of girls say that.
1:31:23🔗AdamWell, she may be. I mean, it's probably why she told you.
1:31:28🔗CallerBut I'm comfortable with gay people. Like my mom's boss is gay, and she's so cool. I have a couple bisexual friends, but it's just that she's such a good friend of mine that he knows so much about me that it kind of freaks me out.
1:31:42🔗AdamBut listen, your mom's boss over at the Big Five is gay, right? And you have bi friends, and you know, I mean, who could be better prepared for this than you?
1:31:53🔗DrewYeah, it's just another one. And I understand that boundaries are an issue when you feel that close to someone, but you have to maintain them. It shouldn't change how you feel about your friend.
1:32:03🔗AdamYeah, you will adapt. But keep in mind, and I don't want to freak you out or cause any unnecessary alarm, but the fact that she told her means that there may be a little attraction there.
1:32:16🔗DrewOr this is her very best friend and she needed to talk to someone. She trusted Annette. Who else would she tell?
1:32:23🔗CallerShe didn't tell anyone and it's been like a week and a half, I think, and I haven't been distancing her on purpose, but subconsciously I just don't know what to say to her.
1:32:35🔗DrewWhy don't you begin talking to her about how you're feeling and help her struggle with you? That you're having some funny feelings about it, you want to hang in, you want to be supportive, and you're talking about it just to sort of get through it.
1:32:45🔗CallerOkay. Can I just say something, Linkin Park? Yeah. My friend Tristan and I, we want to go to the Dragon Festival, but we live in Calabasas and so far.
1:33:14🔗AdamHave some wine coolers and talk about my new lifestyle. All right. Linkin Park is here. We'll take a little break. We'll be back. All righty, well, there you have it. Another swell show.
1:34:01🔗DrewYeah, quick. Yeah. We knew we liked these guys.
1:34:04🔗AdamYeah, we did. We started in with a nice, healthy dose of ass kissing right at the top, and won the band over, and we were thick as thieves after that. Hybrid Theory is the name of the CD. Go out and get it if you haven't already, Linkin Park. Thanks a lot, guys.
1:34:19🔗Linkin ParkThank you. Thanks for having us, guys. Absolutely.
1:34:21🔗AdamContinued success and come back anytime at all.
1:34:24🔗AdamSo until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
1:34:29🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.