4:24🔗
Adam
Shut up. Does everything have to be an opportunity for you to knock me down? You who's dressed like the fifth member of a barbershop quartet. You're dressed like a barber's pole. That's right.
4:38🔗
Adam
Listen, what happened to those days when you put that pole out front or the wooden Indian out front of the tobacco store? I miss that stuff. Who decided?
4:51🔗
Adam
Drew, somebody stole the wooden Indian. We need a replacement pronto. Geez, what do I do? Just act natural. Just go out there and be yourself, brother. Tammy Lynn Michaels is our guest tonight. She's from Popular. This is 9 o'clock on Friday nights on the.
5:48🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
I love that Ron knows more people than God. Wherever I go, hey, you know Ron.
5:53🔗
Adam
He's very popular. Let's keep talking about Ron Lester. Okay. Who's Ron Lester? How do I know him?
6:01🔗
Adam
Okay, listen. Here's the deal. Whenever a guy weighs over, let's say, 375, you cannot just call him by his Christian name. You have to work Big Ron in or Jumbo Ron or something like that because otherwise everyone will go cold on the trail. I'm trying to picture Ron Lester. Besides, Ron Lester sounds like a guy that goes about 135 pounds and has a constant nasal problem or something. No, Ron Lester.
6:34🔗
Adam
Drew, where were you? I was drunk. He gave me a ride home from an Oscar party. Tell me like going down on the ladies.
6:45🔗
Get two chicks in the same bed.
6:49🔗
Oh, my God.
6:50🔗
Adam
Yeah. Not only the ladies, me, but the professional ladies. He said he didn't mind getting down there.
6:57🔗
I appreciate you talk about a good boy.
7:01🔗
Adam
He's a wonderful lad. But I said, I said, Ron, you going down on a hooker is like it's like getting a rental car and then having a detailed and then bring it back to a lot on a flatbed. There's just as much in it for you. You understand? Paying 85 bucks, getting the tires armor all and then pushing it back to a lot and leaving it there.
7:32🔗
All right.
7:33🔗
Adam
So the popular is very popular. Keep talking about it. I didn't know we're going to have a guest tonight.
7:39🔗
Actually.
8:00🔗
Adam
All right. Let's talk about popular. Then we'll hop on the phones. And really, do I sound wrong in this microphone? No, it's your headphones.
8:09🔗
Adam
You're fine. Does it ever get old? Anderson just went, You always sound bad. How do I communicate that I don't sound right without being made fun of by co-workers or staff?
8:21🔗
Is that possible?
8:30🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
It's very cult. Well, first of all, it's on Fridays at 9. On the dubba dubba dubba dubba dubba dubba dubba dubba dub.
8:42🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
You should meet the guy in real life, too. He's fuzzy. It's interesting. It's got some characters that are based in reality, and then there's characters that are based in West Hollywood's reality. And I play a girl who's driven by money and glamour and facade. And if we therapeutically break it down, Dr. Drew, she just wants to be loved, and she's very fear-based, but she holds up this facade to keep away from any sort of emotional intimacy and thus facing possible rejection. So, angry? A bitch, basically. Angry. Very angry, very prissy, very girly, was the head cheerleader, but because she was always on her knees, she can't do cheerleading anymore.
9:30🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Oh, I'm heavy. Compared to some LA actors you've had in here, babe. Oh, yeah.
9:39🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Oh, you mistook me for Bryce Johnson. I think that's the best compliment I've ever had.
9:47🔗
Adam
I'd like to come back as one of his buddies. All right. Kick that thing and let's take some calls. What'd he say there, Drew? Is that going to work? Oh, is it really screwed up? Usually you just have to jiggle something. The screen went out. All right. Let me hold on a second. This would be an opportune time to talk about The Man Show. Talk about cult popularity. Why? Because it's on tonight. It's on right now. On Comedy Central, everybody. Ten o'clock. This is the best episode we've ever done tonight. Please. Oh, yes.
10:20🔗
Adam
How dare you pretend you don't know about The Man Show. OK, we got it fixed. The Man Show is the best show on television.
10:29🔗
Best show on television.
10:37🔗
Yeah.
10:39🔗
Caller
Hey, I just saw The Man Show the other night and I was cracking up laughing. It was with Rosie O'Donnell in the tunnel.
10:48🔗
Caller
Yeah, that was funny. But my question is. Thank you. Okay. Okay, I consider myself gay. But the thing about me is that I enjoy having threesomes.
11:05🔗
Caller
And what I want to know is if that is normal. I mean, because I consider myself gay. But I'm still kind of with a man and being with.
11:23🔗
Caller
Well, I pretty much just, you know, am a third person where I participate. But, you know, I'm pretty much.
11:37🔗
Adam
What do you do with the guy? What do I do with the guy? That's it. I'm putting a little. I've got to swear I got about this much tonight.
12:08🔗
Adam
Yeah. My compass would be spinning if I got in there. All right. So you give the oral on the guy. The girl gives the oral on you, and the guy gives the oral on the phone with his buddies. Hey, guess where I am? That's what I'd be doing.
12:27🔗
Two chicks in the same bed.
12:37🔗
Adam
Now who cares? Listen, you're screwed up, so all bets are off. You know what I'm saying? You can go, you can go in any direction sexually.
12:47🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, don't, don't, don't try to hold yourself. It's like, but you know what I mean is, is you're trying to hold your sexuality up to some template that only exists for normal people, and you're pretty whacked out, right? So what do you want?
13:18🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, it's not like you're 85 and doing this in the nursing home. So I think at the age of 21, it's okay to sort of go out and have a little bit of fun as long as it's safe.
13:28🔗
Caller
Okay. What if I meet somebody and, you know, how do I bring this up to some people that, you know, this is, you know, what I like without-
13:38🔗
Adam
So you say you had a steady lesbian relationship and you wanted to bring a guy into the bedroom. Is that what you're saying?
13:51🔗
Drew
What are you saying? Something like that. That isn't going to fly. If that's what you need in a intimate relationship, then there's a problem because that is not going to, it's not going to allow it to be-
14:18🔗
Yes.
14:20🔗
Caller
Well, two years ago, I had sex with this one chick. She was my friend at the time, you know what I'm saying? And she was the one that was taking off the clothes and everything like that. I was like, all right, cool. You know what I'm saying? And then we had sex and afterwards we went out, you know, had a good time. The next day she told her mom that I raped her. I mean, it was a really drawn out case. I mean, there was no evidence, you know what I'm saying?
14:54🔗
Adam
And why do you think she cried right? Because her mom found out that you slept with her or somebody slept with her and she didn't want her mom to find out that she willingly went along with it?
15:04🔗
Caller
Well, I think it was because she was kind of tore up down there. Oh. You know what I'm saying?
15:25🔗
Caller
So Monday she goes to school and she went to the nurse and the nurse called the police and there was a rape kit done off and then, you know, that type of deal.
15:33🔗
Adam
Ah, yeah. Listen, Drew, if you had a nickel for every time someone pulled a rape kit out one of your bitches, I mean, you'd be a rich man, right?
15:41🔗
Caller
You see, the thing is now I'm dating this chick and I told her like flat out about it. Sure.
15:48🔗
Caller
Right. And she's like, well, I wanted you to do that because at first I was kind of afraid because she might do something like that. Now that I know that she feels more comfortable about it, you know what I'm saying?
15:58🔗
Adam
Hold on a second. Let us, uh, React? Let's adjourn to our office and then have a quick discussion about the defendant. You know, it's funny, these guys, they start off real innocent. Hey, we went out and she was kind of banging for sex, so I gave in to her and now she cried rape. And you're like, well, yeah, it's kind of a bummer. Then it was like, yeah, she's all torn up down there. And then it's like, so now I got this new chick, you know, and she was telling her about it. And it's like, I'm sure this guy's attorney probably told him the same thing. Stop talking so much because it's like, here, here's a shovel. Go ahead. Dig your way to China. Each syllable that comes out of his mouth, he goes from this poor guy was set up to let's move to Canada. This guy's a serial rapist. Yeah, it's kind of getting deeper and deeper. Oh, yeah.
16:48🔗
Caller
Right. No, no, no, no. No. She's totally cool with me, you know what I'm saying? Right.
17:10🔗
Adam
Oh yeah. Well, listen, good looking girls know they're going to get raped at one point or another. And that's, they, you know, they go out, they can walk around their head on a swivel, like a good middle linebacker dropping back into his hook zone during a pass play. You got to keep your eyes moving. All right. So she was scared you're going to rape her and, you know, rightfully so. And it turns out, even though you had a rape conviction, ironically enough, you weren't...
17:39🔗
Caller
Well, this weekend, I got this party coming up and she might want to do something. I'm afraid that, you know what I'm saying?
18:06🔗
Adam
She's a virgin. Yeah. Okay. Ah, well, I see. I see. All right. Well, that eliminates that potential. So go at her.
18:18🔗
Adam
Yeah. Everyone who calls this show is somewhere between retard and super tars, basically, is how it goes. You know, they make points that don't have a point. You know, I go, well, don't tear her up down there. Oh, yeah. She's a virgin. Oh, okay. Oh, all right. Oh, sorry. My mistake.
18:38🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
It's interesting that he's getting ready to, supposedly getting ready to make love to his new girlfriend and he's got this whole rape thing on his mind.
18:51🔗
Drew
She is not interested in having sex. If you end up having sex, evaluate that situation very carefully. Because she's a virgin.
19:12🔗
Adam
That's right. I need a note and I need one of those. Yeah, the same thing you use when you're filming on the street and you talk to somebody. You're going to sign a release form. Same standard stuff in the industry. Sarah?
19:32🔗
Caller
I was just wondering if, when my boyfriend was younger, he used to wrestle around with his brothers a lot and he said he got hit in the scrotum a lot. Will that prevent him from having kids?
19:50🔗
Caller
Because we've been together for three years and I had a child when I was 17 not from him.
20:08🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Are you going to wait until you get pregnant to start using protection? That's a little backwards. We want a kid.
20:12🔗
Caller
He's already graduated from college. We've been together for three years. We want one.
20:19🔗
Why not? Because that's just legal paperwork.
20:24🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, no, but if you're in the hospital and you're dying, it gives him some rights.
20:30🔗
He has the rights.
20:31🔗
Drew
No, not to you. Why don't you ask him to... It's a way of sort of formalizing his commitment to you and your commitment to him.
20:39🔗
Adam
Oh, who cares? Like, don't get married. But what about the first kid? Where's the first dad?
21:18🔗
Adam
No, that's not a real college. What is that? What do they do? They fire ceramics out in ditches filled with leaves and twigs or something, right? They build like adobe huts and stuff. I mean, what do they do in the University of New Mexico? They don't do anything. What's the name of that University of New Mexico? What's the name of the team?
21:41🔗
Adam
The Lobos. Wolves. Do you hear me? Listen to that. He's a wolf, this guy. All right, sir. You're fine. I hope, listen, just give it, you're so young. Just give it a couple more years. Then you have a kid, all right? Let him get his career going. Let him make some money. I mean, hasn't money been tight with him going to college and everything?
22:00🔗
Caller
Kinda. But now that he's finished, we were thinking he's done with school and everything will be going better now.
22:14🔗
He does.
22:18🔗
We both work.
22:23🔗
Caller
I have a babysitter. We work, like I'll work and he'll be at home or at class and have a babysitter while he's in class and then I'm at home while he's at work.
22:32🔗
Adam
Okay. All right, sir. Just take it slow. Make some money. Here. Okay. Here's what I want to say to everybody. You can get by. Everyone can get by. People have that ability. I mean, your plane can go down in the mountains and you can survive the winter. Most likely. I saw that movie. You can survive, but why? Why do it that way? Why not establish yourself? Why not make some money? If you got three kids, why not have yourself a nice big mini van so they don't have to ride in the bed of the truck? You know, why not have an apartment or a house that has three or four bedrooms so everyone gets their own bedroom and the kids don't have to sleep on top of each other? Why not? Why not? Why not? Yeah, you can make it, but why? Why pin yourself up against the wall that way? Make a few bucks, get yourself established, get a house, get some dental care and some medical care, get everything set up and then have a kid.
23:29🔗
Drew
As you know, the car parking tickets and the dental care and that kind of stuff is what puts you over the edge if you're not prepared.
23:41🔗
Adam
I didn't heard that attitude before about it. When you say the man, you mean the man, not males.
23:45🔗
Adam
Right. Here's my take on this. She'd probably deny it. I bet he doesn't really want to get married.
24:03🔗
Adam
Her thing is, I got to get a kid with this dude to keep... To keep him. Yeah. Because I can't lock him with the wedding. I'm going to lock him with this bird.
24:10🔗
Drew
Well, because the wedding is just a piece of paper. That's the man's paper. That's the man's instrument.
24:14🔗
Adam
And listen, there ain't a 21-year-old non-lesbian chick alive who is with a guy who is the father of her child, essentially, her three-year-old, who wants to have a child with this man who doesn't want to get married to him. She's a sell-nus. She's a sell-nus at Bill & Goode's. David?
24:32🔗
Yeah?
24:34🔗
Yeah.
24:37🔗
It is?
24:43🔗
I got it.
24:46🔗
Adam
That's funny. Hey, you know, the man's show is on. It is? Yeah, Comedy Central. Is he stoned? Is that his question? Hold on a second. David, are you really stoned?
24:58🔗
No.
24:59🔗
All right.
24:59🔗
Adam
Well, now you got to pay. I'm putting you on hold because that would have been the only acceptable excuse. You're being really bad. All right. Turn that show on. I want to go watch it. And Anderson, is it on? Is it commercial? No? All right. We'll take a little break. We'll be back. Tonight from Popular, Friday night, nine o'clock, dubba dubba dubbi bee, everybody.
25:37🔗
Drew
I was just telling about the conference. I had a great time with my wife. I spent the day's time with her, finally alone. Really? Great.
25:59🔗
The Bay or the bigger one?
26:02🔗
It's called the red bridge.
26:19🔗
Adam
You know, people traditionally complain about old money like, you know, Thirst in Hell the Third type of money. But I could make an argument against new money. I'm talking about rap stars, athletes and dot comers. Young people with a big fat wallet, little testosterone sprinkled into that piggy bank. That's a bad scene. That's worse. You know what I mean? That means bad jewelry, bad cars, bad clothing, and a big mouth. You know, people do. They make fun of like the old white rich guy, but you know, whose father was rich and whose father's father was rich and whose father came over to this country rich. But you know what? Those guys know how to act. They just shut up. They may say things about you when you're not around, but they're not, they don't have like a $70,000 convertible with the stereo all the way up at 430 in the morning.
27:12🔗
Adam
Yeah, and they're wearing like a gold LeMay Parka. They're not assholes, another word. They're their own kind of asshole, but not the kind that's going to affect your life. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, Frisco does have a little sort of new money to it over there. And you know what? I'll tell you the thing about San Francisco. Everyone who lives in San Francisco figures they're smarter than you are. Yes, that's what it is.
27:50🔗
Adam
They're living up there and they're geniuses and they're smarter than you are. And by the way, even if you, on some sort of outside chance, you happen to make more money than they do, it's only because they're keeping it real and they're artists. Yes, there is that attitude. Marcus, you're 19, what's up?
28:19🔗
Caller
No, because they explained to me in 13 when I was like sixth grade, but I didn't understand it.
28:32🔗
Drew
No, no. Some people do do that, but that's not what happens. It's just your brain triggers a spinal reflex and you emit things.
28:58🔗
Adam
You make a pfft on your sheet and that's what happens. Oh, for Christ sake, he's 19. That's what this guy have. Hold on a second. Marcus, I don't believe you.
29:16🔗
No.
29:18🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, a guy at the age of 17 or 18 isn't going to turn to his other guy friends and be like, I don't know what the hell this is.
29:29🔗
Adam
Let me just... First off, how dare you and certainly how dare you bring up my integrity.
29:37🔗
Drew
His friends, they talk about masturbation since they were 12. No, no. When Adam came clean with the fact that he hadn't masturbated by the time he was 15.
29:47🔗
Adam
It was a concert cello. Really? Mark, hold on a second. I'll get to the story in a second. Marcus? Right. You know how you can wet the bed in the middle of the night if you have a dream? There you go. Now replace urine with sperm and replace the dream where you're for bridge and banging a chick on a bridge and there you have it.
30:21🔗
Adam
Yeah. But they should be some of the business end. I took all the enamel off my Johnson.
30:30🔗
Adam
Oh, forget about the brush. It was a floss and it damn near cut the circulation off of it.
30:34🔗
Drew
It needs to be some sort of, we need to emboss that or find that. Yes, you have to find that.
30:48🔗
Adam
No, basically, basically, I was a late bloomer with the masturbation and my friends found out that I wasn't masturbating and they were outraged and told me this was going to change.
31:09🔗
Adam
But you know, it's a strange thing and Drew, you jump in and help me out here. But everyone sure seems to have their own sort of clock when it comes to that. And some go a little early and some go a little late. But I don't know if you can go back and sort of dissect it and question it. It just kind of is.
31:33🔗
Adam
So well, it's weird in that, you know, my family wasn't religious. And they were. Well, actually, is paganism a religion? And what about Santeria?
31:45🔗
Adam
Well, my so my father was pagan. My you know, my mom was in the Santeria. And so no, she believed you.
32:11🔗
Adam
There's other things. No, no, I wasn't going through downstairs, but but other people's pantries. Yeah, I ate over to other people's houses.
32:20🔗
Adam
I had time to actually. Well, the very first time I masturbate wasn't my friend's house. That's a good point. It's very good point. OK, but I think that all guys have a sort of schedule left alone. I mean, without, you know, someone smacking their nuts with a Bible and, you know, holding a crotch, you know, having an exorcism.
32:39🔗
Drew
But in a way, some guys, to some extent, the exact opposite is happening to our young males, that they're being bombarded with all this material on the web and stuff.
32:47🔗
Adam
But would you agree that if you took, you know, 20 guys and you sort of left them alone.
32:54🔗
Adam
It would happen at different times, but it would be somewhere between 13 and 16. 16 would be on the late side. 13 would probably be on the earlier side.
33:08🔗
Adam
Drew got it early. Drew did something early because every time I say 13, he rolls his eyes and wants to say something about it, but he never does. So I, but in my, in my experience with my buddies, I would say most of them got going about 14, 14 and a half, something like that, maybe 13 and a half. I think there's something like that. So anyway, 13 and 16, somewhere in there. I just, I got a late start, but don't worry.
33:55🔗
Yeah.
33:58🔗
Caller
Yeah. I kind of have a problem. My girlfriend is kind of pregnant. She's 14. And I just found out about it today.
34:24🔗
Caller
Well, I kind of noticed she was kind of getting chubbier, but it's like she doesn't tell me when like her period comes or anything like that. And I just noticed that her stomach had been hurting a lot lately and I asked her, you know what's wrong? And she told me she hadn't had her period in a while.
34:42🔗
Caller
Like inside, she was having like stomach pain. And that's what she basically told me. She was having like kind of stomach pain. And it was kind of popping out.
34:54🔗
Drew
Well, it's too early in the pregnancy for that. And, you know, pain isn't usually part of pregnancy. So at that stage, it's too, what, five months too early for the popping out? You often don't see anything. And the only pain you have are contractions. And then it's an accurate thing later.
35:09🔗
Caller
It's not like that that that much because she used to be like really thin before. But now she's like a little bit thicker. But it's just like in that one section, the rest of her like it's flat and then there's like a lump.
35:29🔗
Adam
Okay. Turn that Metallica down. Oh, Jesus, you're making a hell of a day. You're just sitting home listening to Metallica. You probably got to perform some sort of satanic ritual on that kid.
35:41🔗
Caller
Yeah. Yeah. Well, she's way too young. Well, we were too young to like have a baby and we want to go like, what can we do to like go through and then I just give it up for adoption.
35:59🔗
Adam
I'm going to have to get it. I'm going to legalize ten month abortions. The kid can be up to a month old and you can still put it down. David, thanks for laughing by the way. It's nice.
36:12🔗
Adam
I have the one year rule. I'll call it from time of inception until one year from that point.
36:29🔗
Drew
You need to, David, go talk to somebody who can help you with these sorts of issues. Can I give you a number?
37:03🔗
Adam
It's already way ahead of me. I can't type that fast. That'd be 45 minutes for me. I'd be looking at you. I swear to Christ, there's no three on this. No, there's no three. I swear. Come over and look. I'll let you 100. I type. That's how I type. I type and I go, okay, where's the G? Who took the G? The G was here before lunch. There's no, I'm staring at it. There's no G on here and I can stare at it and not find it. Does that mean, is that stupid or is there something wrong with me?
37:33🔗
Adam
You'd say the lion's share of it would be stupid though, right? No, I think there's a sprinkling of something wrong.
37:38🔗
Drew
I'll give you something wrong but I know how you object to people blaming their mental status on syndromes like dyslexia. I wouldn't want to give you any out.
37:46🔗
Adam
I've had many a kind person try to claim I was dyslexic and I tell them, no, I don't know how to read. That's different. It's like, let's suppose you didn't speak Spanish fluently. Would you have an affliction or maybe you just never learned? Right. You know what I mean? People don't understand that about reading. You can not learn reading and you won't know how to read quite easily. It's very easy. You take a kid, lock them in a refrigerator, put a few air holes in it, pop them out at 18, and see if he knows how to read. That's basically how I grew up. So, is that dyslexia? Not everyone who doesn't know how to read has dyslexia.
38:25🔗
Drew
But you do tend to get fixated on self-stimulation when you've been in a refrigerator so long, so that makes sense.
38:34🔗
Oh, yeah.
38:35🔗
Adam
That's my ramp name, man. A's with a Z. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we're going to talk to Sarah. Sarah 17 gave boyfriend a blow job, now has a painful bump inside her mouth. We'll talk to Sarah after this.
39:11🔗
Adam
Hey, Dave, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla. He is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Tammy Lynn Michaels is our guest tonight. She is from Popular. We're having a very fascinating discussion during the break about what amassed everyone's family.
39:27🔗
Drew
We need a Loveline commercial show. Just string together all the discussions we have during the commercials.
39:37🔗
Drew
That's the point. We can salvage this thing by stringing together the snippets of conversation we have during the commercials.
39:43🔗
Adam
The thing I wanted to say, I was talking to someone over the weekend about this, which is Tammy's obviously interested in how people work. I know Drew is endlessly fascinated in that. I am too, because it gives me more fuel to hate them. They anger me, but I'm interested in how they work. I was saying to someone this weekend, there's a lot of people that just go through life and they're raised in a certain environment or culture where there's not much emphasis put on that. There's a lot of you who are listening to me right now who could give a rat's ass about that aspect of life.
40:21🔗
Adam
I'm telling you everybody, you are living smack dab in the middle of a population where if you learn how you work and your neighbor works and your girlfriend and your boyfriend and your mommy, dad and your boss work, you're gonna have a step up.
40:39🔗
Adam
Life will be a lot easier if you do just a little bit of work in that department. And we hear all day long about getting your master's degree to give you a step up on the competition and working out or reading Men's Health magazine, which is basically a gay rag, but give you that extra edge at work and in the bedroom and all that other nonsense. Here's the deal. Figure out yourself, psychology, and people. That's who you live amongst. You're not Ted Kaczynski. You're right in the middle of it. Everything you do is sort of dependent on that. And there's people you want to do what you want them to do. And they want you to do what they want you to do.
41:24🔗
Drew
But just know how to realistically appraise who you're dealing with. And have a sense of what your feelings are. Read them and understand them. Take responsibility for them.
41:43🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, I think that the first step that you have to do is just show up for people. Just show up in your body as opposed to in just sort of a black hole where you know what?
41:51🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
It's safe to sort of check out and carry on a life within your head and not take in the information around you that people give you, that you work with, that you live with, and it's easy to stay in that black hole.
42:06🔗
Drew
I think you're talking about the whole phenomenon of transference where you just are automatically who you are and you expect other people to be in a certain way as opposed to just being aware. Who is that person in reality? Not how do you see them through the prism of how dad taught you?
42:19🔗
Adam
And don't go through life casting a play. Alcoholic boyfriend, boss who doesn't appreciate you or understand you. It's all the same. Magically, you cast the play in junior high, then you can't recast in high school, then you recast in junior college.
42:36🔗
Adam
The big play is your kids and your husband or your kids and your wife or whoever it works. That's the big, that's when you hit Broadway.
42:54🔗
Adam
They're going to step right in and keep the show going. So everyone, please just mellow out with that. Just get into psychology just a little bit. Who's called psychology?
43:09🔗
Adam
You're a human and you interact with humans every single day. Just learn about the humans a little bit.
43:20🔗
Yeah, hi. I just want to say, Dr. Drew, you're really smart. I love you. And Adam, you're hilarious. I just love you.
43:27🔗
I just need a help, man. I hate. About a couple days ago, I gave my guy a blowjob and now I have these like pumps inside of my mouth.
43:40🔗
They're like, they're kind of like, they're like a little red and then it's white, like full of pus.
43:48🔗
And they hurt a lot.
43:50🔗
Excuse me?
43:51🔗
They're right in the side of the corner.
43:58🔗
Yeah.
44:00🔗
Yeah. Like on the side.
44:05🔗
Yeah.
44:05🔗
Adam
Okay. There's, see, your mouth, there's this opening and there's this stuff that goes around the opening, they're called lips. Are you with me?
44:18🔗
Like there's some on like the corner of my lip.
44:24🔗
No. And then it's, then it is inside. It's like... Right.
44:33🔗
Drew
And is it both sides? Anatomic? PhD. Anatomy PhD. And it's on both sides. Are you on any medication?
44:41🔗
No.
44:44🔗
No.
44:45🔗
Drew
And did, when you were doing this thing, did you notice that the cards in your mouth tore or got irritated?
44:51🔗
It was just, like...
45:00🔗
Yeah, kind of.
45:02🔗
Drew
Sometimes yeast infections in the mouth will cause what's called chelitis or ankylosis, which is what you're describing.
45:09🔗
Drew
usually that's more inside the mouth. This is the corners of the mouth, which is chelitis. And that is typically medication, vitamin issues, yeast inside the mouth. And you're on no other medications at all. Nothing else going on.
45:22🔗
Yeah, nothing else.
45:26🔗
Yeah.
45:31🔗
Drew
Well, it's probably going to go away by itself. I wouldn't do it. You can use a little cortade over the counter. Sometimes that takes care of it. And if it is a yeast in your mouth and the soreness stays in your mouth, you might have somebody take a look at that.
45:43🔗
Okay.
45:44🔗
Thank you.
45:45🔗
Adam
All right. Drew, I brought you a three-pack of my favorite chapstick, by the way, today. Thank you. Yeah, it's out in the car. We're going to have to get that for you. I want you to promise to use it. You'll enjoy it much more in that high-priced foo-foo stuff you import.
46:01🔗
Adam
Chapstick is like a way to break a candle off and rub it on your face. Suzy Chaffee, my ass.
46:27🔗
Genius.
46:34🔗
Caller
Well, within the last three days, my left nut been kind of swelling up. It's been hurting every time I pee and after a sexual experience. And...
46:49🔗
Caller
Well, tonight, I just, well, I just got out of the shower and I was checking at the way to Facebook check for a...
46:56🔗
Caller
.stick cancer, whatever. And I felt a lump and now I'm, like, having a, you know, nervous breakdown about it.
47:09🔗
Adam
Hold on. Everything on your nuts is tender. Are you kidding me? An anvil, if it was growing inside your sack, would be tender.
47:20🔗
Drew
But, Candy, look, you probably have the epididymitis or a cystosyel, something like that, because those are the things that typically hurt. And cancer feels hard, like a rock.
47:34🔗
Drew
The swelling and all, the swelling and all is like, more goes along with the epididymitis. So, tomorrow, see the doctor. It might be from... You said you're sexually active, right?
47:46🔗
Drew
Candy, I think it's infection. I don't think it's tumor. Sure. I'm not sure, because I can't feel the...
48:09🔗
Adam
So, that's gonna help you sleep tonight, right, buddy? I guess. Yeah, he stands behind his diagnoses.
48:15🔗
Drew
Yeah, all right. It helps to wear, like, the jockey shorts, too. It helps the lymphatic drainage of the tungsten. I mean, well, all right, well, I mean, wear the jockey shorts tonight. It helps to feel less pain.
48:31🔗
Drew
It supports it up. I mean, so gravity is not, the lymphatic strain better when it's pulled up.
48:36🔗
Adam
I've taken it out wearing underpants lately. All right. We'll be back. We'll be right back. I like that song, at least that part. Tammy Lynn Michaels is our guest tonight. She's from Popular, Friday Night, W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W Let's see. And it's third season, second season, third season, second season, second season. Well, you don't want to say second, have it be third. True. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. True. It's second smash season again, nine o'clock Friday nights. And Drew, you ready to rock? Yeah.
50:32🔗
Drew
Well, it's interesting. In teenagers, the effects may be more substantial than in adults. There is some evidence that it actually may cause some brain shrinkage at the time when you really need to call upon your brain to sort of meet new and develop new developmental coping strategies. Is he understanding of this?
50:59🔗
Adam
Heat bad. You must smoke plenty bong load and travel for many moon. And you don't make much wampum later in life. You live off stream water and pemmican. You're a slave to the white man.
51:17🔗
Drew
As an adult, you can do better. You can do okay with it for a while. But eventually, essentially, everyone will get depressed. You can get panic attacks. You can get severe anxieties. And these can be long term, though usually they resolve within 6 to 12 months of stopping the pot.
51:30🔗
Adam
You're bumming aside. Robert, listen. Here's all I know about the weed. We always know the guys who smoke a lot of it. And that's not a good sign. Anytime you're talking about a drug, whatever it is, booze, heroin, pot, coke, whatever, if you know the people that are doing it, it's bad.
51:47🔗
Adam
Yeah, it's bad when a guy shows up and you go, whoo, someone's been drinking. And I don't mean that night. I mean, just over the course of a few years. Over a few years. You start looking like Otis from Mayberry. You've probably been doing some drinking. And I'm saying, we talk to people all the time who smoke a lot of weed and lo and behold, we know they smoke a lot of weed, three syllables into their question, and they think it's not a problem. But believe me, if we know and we're just talking to you over the phone and you barely got out a full sentence and we know you're smoking the weed, that's bad because it's affecting you. It's slowing you down.
52:24🔗
Drew
You know, I had a sharp as you could be. You're gonna like I thought of you at this conference. I was just at we were talking about hallucinogens and it turns out there's a part of the brain called the amygdala which sits up here in the frontal lobes, temporal lobes. And it's a part of the brain that monitors for novelty. In other words, when you know when there's a change in the environment like when it's when it's quiet, some noise acts, you know, it picks up that there's been a change. And mushrooms and acids sort of hyper stimulate that region so things that are routine seem novel.
52:56🔗
Drew
And they seem they seem like brand new, like you're seeing them for the first time and you start interpreting them in a different way.
53:09🔗
Adam
Yeah, everything's free. I've told the story many times, getting high on mushrooms and seeing a commercial for Lee Press on nails and thinking what a bizarre society we live in, that the women take long pieces of red plastic and then they stick them to the end of their fingers so they can become more attractive to the males.
53:29🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, how about women just taking big balls of weird plastic and sticking them in their breasts? That's even weirder and you know what? You guys like it, so you look at that.
53:38🔗
Adam
Not when I'm high on mushrooms. But you see, when I got high on mushrooms, it was so long ago that, at least first time, because I'm high right now, but no, the first time I got high on mushrooms, it was so long ago and I had such a profound experience, but there wasn't really breast augmentation going on so much back then, so it wasn't something I would freak out. Plus, I didn't see a commercial for it, but I did see the Lee Press On Nails commercial and it really freaked me out because, basically, your fingernails are sort of the human equivalent to claws. Those are kind of your claws. And the idea that they should be sort of blood red was a little bit, and extended, was a little bit bizarre and I read more into it than maybe the ladies probably wanted me to at the time, but bloody red extended claws was not a good thing.
54:36🔗
Drew
Probably some people have more of that influence than others, and that's what makes it some of the euphoria about things seeming. And by the same token, when you've been stimulating that too long, nothing seems novel. Nothing is interesting. Right.
54:49🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
So then if you smoke pot for a long time and you get to that point where it's not novel anymore, then when you stop smoking pot, is that where some of the depression comes that you just can't get anything exciting?
55:03🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
So it's like chasing the dragon, that first tie, that first, and you go to more and more and more.
55:10🔗
Drew
Well, it's kind of, but the hallmark of depression is loss of enjoyment of previously enjoyable activities. That's the essential feature of depression. So that's what Pot does.
55:20🔗
Adam
I don't know. Yeah. You'll find that the people call this show... Well, basically, here's what it is. It's what... When you're stupid, it's how you act. You know, people call this show and I say, hey, I'm talking to some chick and I go, listen, your boyfriend's going to get fired from his job over at the batting cage. And as it turns out, her boyfriend does work at the batting cage.
55:42🔗
Adam
But she never mentioned her boyfriend worked at the batting cage. I was just making a joke. And she doesn't find that novel at all that I guess that her boyfriend worked at the batting cage. Right. And now that's stupid.
55:53🔗
Adam
But stupid will put you, now pot will make you stupid. So you know what I'm saying? I wonder if that novel part of your brain. Yeah.
56:06🔗
Adam
Right. Right. That's stupid and pot can make you stupid. You smoke enough a bit. But listen, I'm not against the weed. I'm just against 15 year olds getting baked every day. Shannon.
56:16🔗
Yeah.
56:20🔗
Caller
My boyfriend has osteoarthritis in his knees. It's a strange variety of osteoarthritis and one of the symptoms that causes him to have is psoriasis.
57:01🔗
Adam
Why can't you get rid of psoriasis? Can't you dip people in something? Why can't you kill stuff?
57:06🔗
Drew
There's ways to treat it but it's an autoimmune disease. And when it's with the arthritis it shows a more generalized immune attack on the body.
57:17🔗
Caller
The question is, we've both been tested for STDs. Any of us have anything? The question is, is psoriasis transmittable to me?
57:23🔗
Drew
No, no, no. No, no. It's an autoimmune disease. His immune system is attacking his body.
57:28🔗
Adam
Is that what that is? Yeah. Why does it... You know, it comes out in the form of some sort of skin problem, right, psoriasis? And where is it? Where are your bodies that usually help it?
57:43🔗
Adam
So it's good to be in the sun, by the way, for that, right? All right. Now, you'll be fine, Shannon.
57:59🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
I've got to come to work naked, guys. Let me just set this over here on the counter next to my coffee.
58:18🔗
Adam
Yeah? Is that an arthritis thing? I thought the chicks took that. What am I thinking of?
58:37🔗
Adam
Oh, I just thought of one of the... You know, I was thinking... You know, I drive around. You guys think I'm kidding. I drive around and think about what I would do when I'm in charge.
58:48🔗
Adam
You know, one of my... Well, first off, I called a wrong number tonight on the cell phone on the freeway when you take the phone and you try to ram it inside your eardrum because there's too much noise going on. You can't hear it. And you get that... And then the guy says, hey, you've called the wrong number. And I think to myself every goddamn time I hear that thing, I think to myself, what about if the recording just came on where the guy said, you've called the wrong number? How confusing would that be? Why do I need the sound of a cat being tumbled inside a trash can before the guys? You know what I mean? Why do I need that sound? Why do I need that MRI sound, Drew, before I get to the guy's voice? Someone's got to give me that answer because it drives me insane and I'm driving on the freeway and I'm thinking, gone. When I'm in power, gone. First order of business. First order of business. Gone. That goddamn screeching on the blackboard before the recording, gone. What is the danger of that? Are you going to keep talking? Sorry. You have called the wrong... No. Wait a minute, dude. Hear me out. Do we need that sound? Why do we have that? That's the second thing that's gone when I'm in charge. What were we just talking about? You know what else is gone? Potion pull on the doors.
1:00:14🔗
Adam
PU. Four letters, gone. I change one, it's just like yank. One is yank or kick? I hit that door with the head of steam, I'm not concentrating, bang! The big aluminum thing, everyone in the restaurant turns and looks, they think some sort of hostage situation is taking place over there and it's just you. Push and pull, same two letters, gone. Yank, yank, and push. That's it. I got more too, oh, I got plenty. And let me tell you something too, these are the kind of changes that people want to see. I can't think they're interested in soft money, packs and things like that, all this nonsense they're talking about or what the hell's going on with some foreign policy. No, guy, we want this kind of, we want these policies in action. I would work locally. That's right. Kyle?
1:01:08🔗
Caller
Yeah, I met some girl. There's a phone network. It's called The Loop. You know, L-O-U-P? Have you heard of it?
1:01:19🔗
Caller
You haven't? Oh, um, I met some girl on The Loop. I started talking to her and she wants to know, because she lives local, and she wants to know if she should meet me somewhere.
1:01:32🔗
Adam
Are you masturbating? Are you masturbating? What's, is there something wrong with you?
1:01:38🔗
Caller
I'm trying to keep quiet because, like, in the other room, someone's in there or something.
1:01:53🔗
Adam
And by the way, if you want to squeeze in a brand name or something like that, try not to give a five-second pause and then work it in a real urgent way, like you're taking a cramp. So anyway, I met this girl on The Loop. You ever heard of it? L-O-U-B, L-U-B. And she was, you know, on The Loop as well. She'd be just a little more casual when you're weaving in. That's all. Right. People want to check The Loop out. That's fine. John?
1:02:24🔗
Yeah.
1:02:29🔗
Caller
I had a friend that just recently drank himself to death. And now I have another one that is snorting painkillers.
1:02:48🔗
Adam
What do you get with the snorting of the painkillers, Drew, that you wouldn't get from taking them? You know, like a Vicodin? Can you snort a Vicodin?
1:03:02🔗
Adam
Well, oxy means more than one, many. And then cotton means it's a kind of a plant that's, sweaters are made up. So it means many, many sweaters.
1:03:27🔗
Adam
Oh, frown. Can't you just know stuff? That's why you're here, Drew, if it were, okay. But watch how fast Drew can look stuff up, by the way. It would take me 45 minutes to look this word up. All right. You ready, Drew?
1:03:40🔗
Drew
But let's continue the discussion. The people that choose opiates usually have got problems with some other negative, some problems controlling their affect. Oxy, containing oxygen, additional oxygen.
1:04:07🔗
Drew
No, I don't think that's how it's used in these. Anyway, people that choose opiates, they're basically alcoholics who have an awful lot of negative feelings they're carrying around, usually trauma survivors, that sort of thing. And opiates make everything fine. They work for them for a little while, but then they send a throw a switch in the brain and actually cause a brain change that makes them permanently focused on the pursuit of that drug and they can't stop. And that's addiction. And with opiates, that's extraordinarily powerful change.
1:04:37🔗
Drew
You got to get him to treatment, John. It's not going to stop without treatment. He will die of opiate addiction.
1:04:44🔗
Drew
Or switch to something else. If he makes the switch to something else, the intensity of use of that drug to make up for the opiates will have to be profound.
1:04:55🔗
Adam
Sorry for your friends. But you know what? Don't hang out with them either. I mean, at a certain point.
1:05:03🔗
Adam
One friend who just died of too much alcohol. You got another friend who's snorting oxyten. I mean, that's, I mean, maybe you shouldn't be hanging around with all these people. It's something to think about, too.
1:05:16🔗
Drew
Yeah, but part of the loss, part of what gets their attention is the multiple losses that are incurred from the disease. So you can be part of what captures their attention. Do you want to talk about your?
1:05:29🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
All right. I've been at Tylenol. No, there's, as far as addictions and stuff like that. Well, there's, yeah, there's, there's several people in my life who have dealt with addictions, whether it's alcohol or drugs or even pot. And you can transfer addictions, you can transfer it from drugs to food to sex. And basically, my personal feeling and my experiences, if you have anything to an extreme, it's to fill a void.
1:06:00🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Okay, so anyway, well, here's, here's my theory, Dr. Drew. And I'm so excited to share this with you. My theory is, so far, if, if there's an overeating happening, that is a cover-up of sort of sexual abuse or some sort of sexual trauma. If there's a drugs addiction, that tends to cover up verbal and emotional abuse. And alcohol covers up physical abuse. Like, that's in my experience with the people I know and the conversations I've held, I've always found that overeating and, and addictions to food is to change the body. Yeah, to protect the way, to keep people away. Yeah, absolutely.
1:06:38🔗
Drew
But usually that doesn't end the story, because usually there's so much pain associated with having been sexual abuser.
1:06:45🔗
Adam
Drew's theory is physical abuse as a child. I'm sorry, drug abuse is related to sexual abuse, and then alcohol is related to sexual abuse, and then eating, and then what, eating paste, would that be a byproduct of sexual abuse?
1:07:17🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
No, it's not about me. There's somebody who's very, very close to me in my life who is a recovering pill addict, and it started out with sort of binging on beer, and whoever she dated, if they drank beer a lot, then she would drink beer a lot, and then it came to her not drinking beer as much, unless they were round, and then it went to pills, and then she became addicted to pills, and then she became addicted to alcohol, and it just was a cycle.
1:07:47🔗
Adam
Give me some of them pills. We got a deal. All right, Drew. You're like Tonto with a medical degree. James?
1:08:12🔗
Caller
Yeah. I heard Drew talking last week with someone who was with a 27-year-old virgin.
1:08:29🔗
Drew
In other words, if it's something that's not part of your value system or your moral beliefs, it's just.
1:08:36🔗
Drew
It's a byproduct of your condition. The problem is not the symptom. It's a symptom. Your problem is your condition that you have difficulty connecting with people and associating in social circumstances. And that can be treated.
1:08:50🔗
What do you mean?
1:08:55🔗
Caller
I mean, I've been going to a therapist and a psychiatrist and I'm on Paxil and Klonopin.
1:09:30🔗
Drew
It seems to me that this is kind of situation where what they call cognitive behavioral interventions would be awfully useful, which is just helping you plan and manage and cope with developing new social connections.
1:09:56🔗
Adam
Nice. That's good. Well, no. Here's what I was going to say, unfortunately, for young James. It's easier to make friends. It's going to be easier for James on a sort of uncomfortable scale, one to 10, 10 being best. It's going to be a six to talk to some guys as friends, and it's going to be a nine or 10 to talk to some women for a date.
1:10:27🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
No, I mean, I just, he just seems so shy. It seems like it's physically painful for him to talk to women.
1:10:44🔗
Adam
Well, they're going to go bad wherever he goes. You're right. Yes. Okay. Better they should go bad at the Red Onion than over at the lab. Yeah. There could be a fire. Things go bad at the lab. Things catch on fire. It's fire. Rabbits die.
1:11:06🔗
Adam
Don't worry about the cool in hip guys like myself. You hang out with the nerdy guys, the Dungeon Dragon guys. You understand? But you make some friends. Make some dude friends and then you hang out and now you got a little confidence, you got a little click and now you and your buddies go out on the weekend and then you tilt a couple of beers and you shoot some pool and you see if you can meet some women. All right? Go with the guy friends first. You gotta have your guy friends. As much as women complain about men and their buddies, I don't think I know a woman who would trust a guy who didn't have any guy friends. Do you know what I'm saying?
1:11:46🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, yeah. I mean, it depends on what the guy friends are doing, if they're all mooning women and like shooting up and.
1:11:58🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
You know, I mean, if they, it depends. I mean, I like guys who have friends because it just shows that there's bonding. I think it's actually very sweet to see a bunch of guys hitting each other around like, oh, you're so stupid, because it's actually very endearing.
1:12:16🔗
Adam
We also know that women love guys with friends because once they get with them, they constantly harangue them about hanging around with their guy friends. Do you see what I'm saying? So obviously, they're attracted to those kinds of guys. I want to say something, he said he worked at the lab and it reminded me of something. I've been watching a lot of Charlie's Angels this week, Nick at Night or something like a Charlie's Angels Marathon. I used to watch Charlie's Angels when I would babysit when I was like 13 years old, and so now I'm kind of reliving that. And anyway, I opened some pie filling and put some miniature marshmallows. Did you? No, I didn't do that. But I used to do that when I was a baby. I'd go nuts. But here's what I've learned from Charlie's Angels. I was telling you last week, see Charlie's Angels is not just Charlie's Angels, it's Aaron Spellings, and it sort of speaks for every show of that time. Yes, basically.
1:13:10🔗
Adam
And I was telling Drew last week that the two ways you killed people in the 70s, one was by cutting the brake lines to the car, which we all know kills someone instantly. And the second way is when it got in the sauna, you put a chair up against the doorknob and then you turn it up. Yeah, because as we all know, and anyone who manufactures saunas can back me up on this, because if, you know, over 130 will kill a man, you build them to 185, 190.
1:13:40🔗
Adam
And make sure the knob's out there with the big red arrow on it that says danger at the bottom. That's genius.
1:13:49🔗
Adam
We're installing a sauna at the health club. What's comfortable? 105, 110? Uh-huh. What can the human body tolerate? 120, 125? What's this go up to? 202? Nice. And where's the knob? It's on the outside. But just turn it all the way up. How long can a human live in there? They have four or five minutes where they died. Gary, that's a great plan. But the other thing I noticed about 70s TV, I was watching this week with Charlie Sengels, a lot of shenanigans going on in the hospital. A lot of hospital related stuff. The hospital was a dark and spooky place in the 70s.
1:14:31🔗
Adam
So it was all of that. First off, there was the prison or the witness who was in the hospital. Remember all these 70s shows? Cops standing out front of the door of the room, guy walking in in the janitor's outfit. Yeah, I got to take care. Cop falling asleep on the chair. Janor, now holding the pillow over the guy's head. A lot of shenanigans, a lot of murder, a lot of nonsense going on in the hospital, ironically enough, and the hospital was a spooky place in the 70s. They'd open the quarter, they'd look down at the quarter, be dark and nobody be in it. Like some guy's trying to rape one of Charlie's angels. She goes bursting out of the room and into the hallway and it's dark.
1:15:13🔗
Adam
There's nobody there. I'm thinking to myself, I mean, okay, maybe a library, a hospital. Who decided, first of all, there's no place more well lit than a hospital. I mean, you open a closet, a mop closet, you're blinded, it's so light in a hospital, and there's tons of people everywhere all the time. You can't have a madman chase you down an endless corridor, like with a scalpel, and then you get into an empty elevator. Oh, Christ. Then you open the door, he's there. No one's around. Once in a while, there's a guy pushing a gurney, but only so the guy could knock him over while he's running. I've been to like the Kaiser Permanente out in West Hills or wherever the hell that is over there. You can't get, first off, you can't park. You gotta walk. You gotta park your car like 40 miles away and walk because it's packed. When you open the door, you can't get in. I mean, you couldn't run, you couldn't do anything. How did that go, Drew?
1:16:17🔗
Adam
No, I realized shows like ER and Chicago Hope and all these shows, they ruined it for all these Aaron Spelling type producers and stuff.
1:16:26🔗
Adam
Mysterious, dark, strange place where you could get away with rape and murder, and now they made it into some sort of bustling, well-lit area that no one could rape in anymore. It breaks my heart. It breaks my heart. We'll take a break.
1:17:11🔗
Adam
Yeah. It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew. Tammy Lynn Michaels is our guest tonight from Popular. Friday night, 9 o'clock, W-W-W-W-W-B. The other thing I learned from watching Charlie's Angels, and it's been nonstop, it's on when I get home at night, it's on, I watch it all weekend. The other thing I forgot about Charlie's Angels is they constantly go undercover, right? Like there was a great white slavery one. And by the way, I don't know what happened to white slavery. That was another thing that was very hot. Infants for sale, young blonde women for sale. A lot of people, white people getting sold. Apparently that's cooled off a little in the 80s and 90s. I'd like to see it come back. Because now I got some money, I'd like to see this white slavery come back, mind myself a white person. But there was these, so they go undercover to bust this baby ring. They get these beautiful women, the women get knocked up, they have their kid, and then they sell the kid off to wealthy couples. That's all fine, and going undercover is all fine. But when they go undercover, and I think it's because the ladies wanted to do a little acting, stretch their wings a little bit. But what's her name, Sabrina? Kate Jackson is playing one of the prospective buyers at the White Slave for the Infant, you know. So she's got the big Charles Nelson Riley glasses on, she's chain smoking and speaking with this sort of southern accent. And not very effectively, by the way. And I'm watching it thinking, you know, it's not like they know who you are. Do you know what I'm saying? They have no idea who you are. To me, you're Kate Jackson. You're the chick I'm going to masturbate to in another couple of years when I get the toothbrush over my buddy Chris' house. But to them, you're someone they've never seen before. And the reason we know they've never seen you before, because you wouldn't walk in there if they've seen you before. So drop the big Southern accent in the glasses. And by the way, you're acting is so obnoxious that you're actually drawing attention to yourself. Like if I were dealing with you at this place, I'd be like, hey, this chick's freaking out. She's chain smoking. She's like out of a Tennessee Williams play. You know, the glasses are everywhere. And I'm thinking to myself, this must have been one of these things where they said to the producers, listen, we want to stretch our wings a little. I'm an actress.
1:19:39🔗
Adam
Oh, that Cheryl Ladd is doing her sort of runaway youth thing. And it's all a disaster and all very distracting. And like I said, how far undercover do you got to go when no one knows who you are? And by the way, aren't you drawing attention to yourself at a certain point with these big affectations? Lisa?
1:19:57🔗
Yeah.
1:19:58🔗
Adam
I know I must read way more into this than other people do. I'm actually yelling at the TV set.
1:20:04🔗
No, okay, well, I was listening to your show like the past hour and there's some guy that called and he's like 15 and his girlfriend's pregnant. She's like 14.
1:20:18🔗
Yeah, well, okay, well, I'm 17 and I have a two and a half year old and I'm part of this great parenting class at Santa Monica High School. And it's like you can like you can go ahead and talk to them and they help you out, you know, to decide with, you know, if you want to keep the child or have an abortion or adoption.
1:20:35🔗
310. Hang on.
1:20:37🔗
Adam
Wait a minute. How do we know where this guy, this guy could have been calling from Monsey.
1:20:42🔗
You know what? They accept anybody that's under 18.
1:20:46🔗
I know. I mean, we're in Santa Monica, so I don't know. If you're willing to move to Santa Monica, then I guess so.
1:20:51🔗
Drew
No, this guy could have been calling from Baltimore. What's the number anyway? So I've got it. 310.
1:20:56🔗
310 394. Oh my God. I just completely forgot the number.
1:21:07🔗
No, it's just that I don't call it that much.
1:21:10🔗
310 394 32.
1:21:14🔗
Drew
Oh, I hope you're right. Because somebody, if I give that number out, a lot of people will hear it.
1:21:18🔗
Adam
Drew, why don't you call it during the break? I was just checking. Sure you were. What's the problem, son?
1:21:25🔗
No, but it's a really great program. And I just, I recommend it for anybody because they help you out with child care for your kid while you go to school. And even, you know, when they decide when they start going to preschool, they help you find schools and, you know, let's talk to Lisa for a second.
1:21:45🔗
Drew
Because, you know, but really there is a potential for social work and government, maybe not government agencies, but agencies to help out with kids having kids, you know? And this sort of a case point that if we prepare for what really happens to these young people and their kids, we can make the outcomes a little better.
1:22:04🔗
Adam
Well, we might as well get realistic about it, which is, the first thing we should work on is prevention, and I think we should treat this no differently than we treat drugs in this country.
1:22:18🔗
Adam
Yes. The first thing is, is let's try to live in a society where people don't do drugs, where people aren't lured to do drugs, where people don't get, teenage girls don't get pregnant, and then let's have a plan for when and if, if and when they do.
1:22:37🔗
Drew
Built on reality. There's a proposition in California that's going to try to funnel a lot of these people out of the jail system into the rehab system.
1:22:45🔗
Drew
I think it's Prop 36. I think that's smart. Oh, are you kidding? It'll be fantastic. They should do it.
1:22:55🔗
Adam
Why? I always wonder why it is that the policies of the state or the country or the city have zero to do with psychological principle, like with what will actually work and what will not be effective, whether it's talking about crime or drugs, drug addicts or whatever, teenage pregnancies or clean needles for junkies, whatever it is, it should all be based on how effective it will be. And that's it, not moral or religious components, just is it going to work or isn't it? Are we going to have less people in prison or are we going to have less junkies? That's it.
1:23:29🔗
Drew
And you know what I think though, in this country, religion has always been an important part of the expression of liberty. It really, it's intimately tied with that. So as soon as you talk about things that affect liberty or add to liberties, immediately you start talking about ideologies. It's just woven right into that.
1:23:45🔗
Adam
Okay, but here's the deal. Obviously, the war on drugs has not worked out as well as we thought it would. The war on anything that people want doesn't seem to work out. It really doesn't. If there's a demand, there's a supply. And obviously, the people we don't want to have the money, then get the money. And it's a very vicious cycle. It's that way with any substance. So let's try to get rid of some of the demand. That's it. That's the only angle on this. Otherwise, it's a sort of futile angle. It's like building a sandcastle and having the tide come in and destroy it, and you're hurrying up and building it again. Tide is going to come in every night at sunset and destroy it. It is done.
1:24:32🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
You can't be just throwing that around, thinking your kids aren't going to have sex. Throw them a condom, too, with that psalm.
1:24:43🔗
Adam
All right. I'd like to go off on that Santa Monica for another minute. I can't stay in that place.
1:25:29🔗
Adam
Yes, it is a love line. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Oh, I forget about that. Tammy Lynn Michaels is our guest tonight. She is from Popular.
1:26:35🔗
Adam
I've seen it. I thought it was decent. It wasn't bad. He weren't bad. It was all right. Oh, boy. But it is no Huelhauser. Three movies in the new release thing. It's nice. Yeah, it's nice. It was pretty good. And then there was some guy and he was thinking about renting that Brooke Shields movie with his girlfriend and I was standing right there and he was like, I don't know, what's it about? Oh, this girl, she goes to Palm Springs with a few of her friends and has a little sexual liaison and his girlfriend is like going, well, I don't know. And I'm like standing there going, come on, man, get the movie. Okay, you don't want that, but how about Buzz Lightyear? Could I interest you? And how about down to you? And Freddie Prince Jr. He's Chip Off The Old Block, that good looking kid. Yeah, I don't know why I stood there. It was very important to me that they rent that movie. No, they didn't. Oh, no, they didn't. No. Like I was in for a taste, you know. John, John, you're 22.
1:27:39🔗
Caller
Oh, yeah, hi. I just want to get some perspective on this. It's kind of a strange call, but I just found out that my father's been tape recording all my phone conversations for the last like eight years.
1:27:56🔗
Caller
What? Oh, and I just don't know how to feel. He apologized to me. And I mean, this is really sick, right? I just want an objective.
1:28:13🔗
Caller
He's got his high tech equipment or whatever downstairs. And I found all these tapes.
1:28:17🔗
Drew
But, you know, it's his deal, not yours. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it affects you certainly. But you realize it's a disturbed behavior. He's apologized. He's acknowledged that it's a problem. He hasn't caused you any consequence, has it?
1:28:40🔗
Drew
Yeah, you feel totally violated. I'm sure you feel violated. I'm sure you're freaked out by that. But the point is that it's over. You haven't been harmed by it. It's your dad's problem. Don't make it your problem. Anymore that it already feels like it's your problem.
1:28:55🔗
Adam
I know this sounds like a great intrusion, but why don't you go pull that puberty file and have a bong load and really knock yourself out. You're like 13 and a half, you're on the horn with some dude you haven't seen in five years now, and you're talking about this new band coming out called Warrant. They're really hot. You know, they sing Cherry Pie. We're going to go down to the ice. We're going down to the roller rink this weekend. You hear yourself talking about some chick you like and all that. I mean, this is amazing. Hey, your dad's an idiot. But I, hey, Drew, seriously, as an adult.
1:29:39🔗
Adam
Especially now, the only conversations. My, my, my, oh, the conversation. Well, my family's so lame. They never took any pictures. We don't have home movies or cameras or tape recordings or anything. They don't. There's no documentation. I swear to Christ, I've gotten drunk and yelled this at my dad a few times, which is if something happened to me and they went to his house saying, we need a picture to put in the newspaper, to put up at the post office or something, he wouldn't be able to provide anything. It would take him a long time. He'd have to search and search. And it wouldn't be anywhere near this time. It would be like when I was 11 and there's one there. But there's no documentation. I mean, close your eyes and picture my family. Okay, now picture them recording anything or doing anything. There's nothing. I played 150 Pop Warner football games. There's not a, you know, baseball. There's not a picture, nothing. No home movies, nothing. I would love to have a tape of me at 14 talking to one of my buddies on the phone, especially when I didn't know it was being recorded.
1:30:51🔗
Adam
Yeah, this is you're like, dude, I'm going out for the sophomore basketball team. Are there some chick or I'm running for, you know what I mean?
1:30:59🔗
Adam
Oh, that'd be excellent. I think this guy should thank his father. John, yeah, your father, your father's a weird dude, but hang on to those tapes. And did you, did you do, are you gay?
1:31:13🔗
Caller
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I, you know, of course, I mean, nothing like, I mean, I had girlfriends and stuff, you know, and but it's just.
1:31:24🔗
Caller
Yeah, I mean, what I mean is, is some pretty, some things that probably I didn't want him to hear.
1:31:29🔗
Adam
But what I'm saying is, is if you were saying your friend on a Thursday night, yeah, tomorrow we're going to get, we're going to get our older brother, Kurt, to go to the liquor store and get us some wine coolers. We're going to the park and we're going to drink out in the park. We're going to do some donuts and his El Camino out on the lawn and blah, blah, blah. And then he said, your dad, dad, I'm going to the, you know, I'm going to the basketball game. I'll be back at that. Did he like stop? I mean, do you know what I'm talking about?
1:31:54🔗
Caller
Yeah, I mean, you know, he was pretty cool for the most part of me. He's pretty liberal, open minded person, but he's sure he takes the calls.
1:32:01🔗
Adam
I don't know if it's a control thing. I don't know how to... Shut up. Answer my question. Is there ever instances where you sort of knew where it seemed like he was tipped off?
1:32:21🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
See, because I'm... My first thought is his dad is like living through him or something, or vicariously trying to have another childhood or...
1:32:27🔗
Drew
In most of the situations where I've seen dads taping, it's because they feel out of control and they want to completely control their kids, and it's aggressive and it's intrusive and it's a real serious violation.
1:32:43🔗
Adam
Look, John, look on the bright side. If this was your mom doing this, you'd be gay right now. So you dodged that bullet.
1:32:51🔗
Adam
All right. Tell your dad, you know, you don't really give, just tell him you lost a lot of respect for him and now you want this.
1:33:09🔗
Adam
And I had many fantasies about talking to John, but never thought it would actually come to fruition, and here we are.
1:33:17🔗
Adam
I thought he'd be taller over the radio. All right, come on, let's squeeze something in. What do you say, everybody? All right.
1:33:32🔗
More.
1:33:35🔗
Yeah.
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A crack.
1:33:38🔗
Drew
Yeah. So this is part of your addiction. Were you sexually abused when you were a child?
1:33:42🔗
Yeah.
1:33:43🔗
Drew
Yeah. I mean, that is the recipe that creates Daisy, which is sexual abuse in childhood meets the biology of addiction, meets opportunity for drugs.
1:33:55🔗
Adam
There you go. Daisy, you can't count partners if you're doing it to score a crack, by the way.
1:34:01🔗
Drew
But you sexualize your feelings. Each time you compulsively act out, you're that five-year-old kid again.
1:34:09🔗
Tammy Lynn Michaels
Well, but if you're also taking advantage of sexuality at a young age, don't you feel like sort of that's all you have to offer?
1:34:14🔗
Drew
That's who she is, yeah. That's who she is. But this needs treatment, Daisy. Seriously, you're going to get AIDS.
1:34:27🔗
Drew
So you're on your way. Talk about this in treatment. Talk about everything. Things you feel the most ashamed about, that's the stuff to bring out in the first step and to bring out with your counselors and with your sponsor, because those are the things that fuel your relapse.
1:34:44🔗
Adam
How dare you? The topic of this Tuesday's therapy session will be, it looks like an all-New York World Series.
1:34:52🔗
Drew
I want you to talk about one shameful thing with your therapist this week. That's your... And how the hell he lets you... How dare you go to therapy and him get you... Let you get by without talking about anything important.
1:35:00🔗
Adam
All right. I'll tell you. Dr. Drew has a lot of issues with shame and... By the way, the way he acts, I'm ashamed of it. Would that work?
1:35:43🔗
Adam
Nine o'clock, Friday. WB, everybody. Kim Coles will be in here tomorrow night. I think she's on the new Gina Davis sitcom. So she'll be in here talking about that.
1:36:00🔗
Adam
Wasn't she talking about? Weren't we talking to Kim Coles about her? What were we talking to her about last time? The book?
1:36:14🔗
Adam
Popular, everyone. And until next time, it's Adam Crawley for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. The gerbil I put in my ass is acting strangely.
1:36:22🔗
Caller
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