1:14🔗VoiceoverHey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Your phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number 3108-544455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Alright, oh, I crossed out Kate's name here. Kate Menning and Ian Somerhalder. Did I get that right?
2:32🔗AdamThis is heading out of Hollywood toward Dodger Stadium. All right, the point is, I got in a little bit late. So let's talk about Young Americans. By the way, Wednesday night at 9 o'clock, and Friday night at 9 o'clock, they'll repeat the same episode. You guys, Kate, you may want to lean up in the proximity of the microphone.
2:55🔗AdamThere you go. There you go. Okay, so tell us all about the Young Americans.
3:00🔗GuestGo ahead. Basically, it's sort of a teen drama, but it's based on a New England boarding school, a bunch of kids going to school without their parents.
4:00🔗GuestShe kisses me as a guy, yeah. And then I don't really hate it that much. And then I go one night after, it's like a prom thing, and follow her, him, into the boys' men's bathroom and kiss her, him. And she shows me her boobs and I freak out.
4:20🔗AdamYeah, that happened to me in high school, Drew. I know it's the same happened to you. Kate, did you get your hair cut for the role? Or were you sporting the bob already?
5:11🔗CallerUm, well, I haven't had sexual intercourse yet, but when I was about to, I know it's not semen, but it's the clear stuff that comes out. And it doesn't feel like a climax, but I can't get it up anymore.
6:00🔗AdamThat gasket is so good, I can stand over the toilet, I can shoot a stream of semen and then a stream of urine and then back the semen and then back the urine, I can actually alternate.
6:08🔗DrewAs soon as you get a split stream with both, I want to hear about it.
6:11🔗DrewI'll tell you what, the... We'll be all over your back. The fluid that you're talking about can be very concentrated in sperm and you can get someone pregnant with that well before you ejaculate. Okay, so just, there's nothing wrong. Just hang in. But I...
6:48🔗AdamI know, but he said he was about to have sex.
6:51🔗CallerYeah, it's like... I had an erection. It's like... We were, you know, kissing, for a play, you could call it. And... But then when it came out to it, it's like... I didn't have an erection, but the white hair stuff still came out.
7:08🔗AdamOkay, so he had an erection at the beginning. And then he lost the erection somewhere into it. He got nervous. Because you know you're about to have sex. It's like those cartoons. You know the cartoons where the guy's, like, running off the edge of the cliff and he's running on the air and he's looking real good and he's starting to smile and look around, feeling pretty good. And then he looks down.
7:38🔗AdamHe's running. He's thinking he's doing pretty good. He's on the air. And then he looks down. And all of a sudden, he plummets to the ground. This is why I never look at my penis during sex.
7:54🔗AdamAnd all of a sudden, he stopped, thought, oh my god, I'm going to get laid for the first time, looked down on his penis and fell into the ravine.
8:29🔗GuestYeah. Oh boy. I kind of got myself into a mess. I had been seeing a guy on and off for about four years now. He had come back into town and just the past week we ended up sleeping together. And well, first of all, I was in so much pain. I mean, I can't even tell you the pain I was in.
9:45🔗DrewWhat was it you think that made you hurt so much?
9:48🔗GuestI wasn't ready. I don't think I was like lubricated enough. I don't think that... Physically, because there was like no foreplay. It was like all of a sudden, there he is.
10:11🔗GuestOkay. The question is... I don't know. I used to like totally love this guy. I don't know what was obsessed with me. But I was on birth control and I hadn't taken it two days prior to when we had sex. And I still haven't taken it. And I think... I mean, I think subconsciously and partially consciously, I was hoping maybe I was pregnant. And by God, I do not know why. Because now I started freaking out because I don't want to be pregnant. You know? And I was just wondering, you know, what's the chances of me being pregnant 27 percent, 27, 28. Is that Dr. Drew?
12:28🔗DrewThere's some that may be a little more effective sooner, but two weeks is fine. And then really, if you're engaging in these very, very chaotic and even destructive relationships, maybe it's time to think about getting some help.
12:58🔗AdamAll right. Ian? Kate? Yeah. I know this is very disturbing. I'm actually disturbed by this as well. You know, the thing about these calls is, Drew and I don't really pay too much attention to it, to be quite honest. I mean, we hear them, but we don't really hear them. And it doesn't strike me that they're that bizarre until we have witnesses to it. That's you guys. Do you know what I'm saying? Drew, do you ever get that feeling? You know what it's like? It's like, I never think too much about, like, oh, the man show is on. I just thought of that. If I have to sit and watch that man show with somebody who's decent, you're embarrassed. All of a sudden I'm embarrassed. When I'm doing it, I never think about it. It's the same with this show. As soon as we have a couple of witnesses in the studio, I think, boy, this is humiliating. There's witnesses. Yeah.
13:46🔗GuestI don't think it's so much humiliating.
13:48🔗AdamWell, you understand that there's a lot of screwed up people out there.
14:38🔗CallerI was, like, at a friend's house, and it's kind of weird, because, like, I was drunk, and my friend, like, took him downstairs. She's not a really good friend, I guess, now, but she told him that, like, they kind of needed to teach me a lesson about getting drunk and stuff, and so, like...
14:59🔗AdamMy friends taught me a lesson about getting drunk. They've drawn a huge penis on me when I passed out, but that's not what they did, huh?
15:06🔗CallerYeah, they drug me in the bathroom, and it was terrible.
16:21🔗AdamOkay. Well, why don't you tell your mom and then ask your mom what you should do? Well, because I think you can still get the cops involved there.
16:29🔗CallerIt's really hard to tell my mom because we have like communication problems.
17:24🔗AdamI mean, you're gonna have to talk to someone about this. I think you should talk to your mom or talk to some of your saner friends. Stop hanging around with people that offer you up to rape us.
17:34🔗DrewAnd this is... a lot of this... you could conceptualize this all as the consequence of alcohol in your life right now. And if your dad is in fact an alcoholic, even though you're defending against seeing that or is not drinking excessively right now, you may still have inherited that gene, and this may be part of the mounting consequences that you will see as you grow up, if you maintain a relationship with your dad.
17:57🔗AdamEveryone's parent is an alcoholic except for Drew's dad, right?
18:03🔗AdamAnd he would be an alcoholic, but it's too expensive, right? I mean, that stuff... That's a good bottle of Crown Royal or Cravasse A, that's going to set you back a few bucks, right Drew?
19:08🔗AdamI want to talk to him a little more. You know what makes me a bad host? I want to beat up everyone who says anything about that. What's that about me on the radio? What is that impulse, Drew? Is that healthy? I don't think so. You don't? Jenny? Yeah? God, do I hate snotty teenagers. Maybe this is the wrong gig for me, but there's nothing. You know, when I'm driving down the street, and some snotty little punk face kid starts walking across the street, he's like 13 or 14, he's got a little attitude for him, and he's dragging his ass across the street like, hey, you and the BMW can wait? I don't wait, man. I swear to God, I'll take the belt right off of him with my fender. I swear to Christ. And listen, I can buy a good attorney, I'll never do a second of jail time. I come right at him.
22:24🔗AdamAll right, well listen, Jenny. You need to just go out with guys your own age. Yeah, listen, you're 13. Listen, there are plenty of young guys who like a chunk of Ajax. All right? You like chunk of Ajax?
23:22🔗AdamAnd just lose some weight if you chuck that.
23:25🔗DrewJenny, there's something, I suspect, I don't want to blame you for this, but something about the way you're related to those guys, the way you choose the environment to choose to be and I agree with what you just said.
24:04🔗AdamAnd I'm Adam Corolla, and you're listening to Loveline on Lansing's 92.1, The Edge. Yeah, it's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. I guess tonight from Young Americans, Kate Menig and Ian Somerhalder. Hey, that's pretty good.
24:34🔗AdamHey, Drew was just saying during the commercial, we did the Teen Choice Awards today, and Drew was saying, you're asking yourself what you're doing there. And the show started, but I was going to say the producers were asking what you were doing there.
24:50🔗DrewThat's right. Hey, but I wonder if you could have been more insulting to Ricky Lake today. First of all, we stand up and do this ourselves. No, wait, you just heard one part of it.
24:59🔗DrewFirst of all, we stand up and do this ourselves. We did the show four years ago.
25:02🔗AdamShe said she did the show? No, no. No. How dare you? How dare you? She had done this show years before I had come on this show. I, like an idiot, because I've introduced myself to so many people have done this show multiple times and I'm done making an ass of myself, now when I meet people I go, good to see you again. That was fun when you did the show last time. Now here's what happened, and here's why it bit me in the ass this time, as Drew said hi to Ricky Lake backstage and she said, oh, yes, we've met, I've done the show, and I heard it in advance and I said, hey, yeah, Ricky, it's good to see you again, and she said, I did the show ten years ago before you were on it, and I was like, yeah, that's right. All right, but that wasn't my fault.
25:51🔗DrewAnd then I had a little conversation with her, and then you...
25:52🔗AdamShe had a little conversation about post-partum depression.
25:57🔗DrewThat's not really what we were talking about.
25:58🔗AdamWell, you were saying that she had a kid, and that she wasn't getting any sex. Was that what it was?
26:12🔗AdamSo anyway, we went... The reason her conversation went through was cut short is because we had to go out on stage, and then I guess I brought it up when we were out.
26:21🔗DrewAnd by the way, I have a suspicion that the person who we perceive as having died out there is not me.
26:55🔗AdamIt's only going to get worse with age, too, believe you or me.
26:57🔗CallerI'm going to look forward to it. My question is for Drew. My problem is that I am always dry whenever I have sex, and I've been to the doctor a million times, and first it was a yeast infection, then it was vaginosis, or I don't know the term. But I don't know what it is.
29:04🔗DrewJamie's question is, A, if she actually is getting adequate sort of foreplay and is involved emotionally with her boyfriend, and is adequately aroused by the experience, she should think about changing the pills and certainly continue to use the lubricants.
29:16🔗AdamAlright. Let me ask her real quick. Jamie?
29:36🔗CallerWell, my question is, there was a recent study done, like people that are not circumcised, there's a greater risk to get like, diseases, like, benign or diseases. And I was wondering if that was true or not.
30:04🔗DrewAnd if that were the case, you'd expect to see a lot... If there is some data somewhere about African and southern circumcision, I remember that looked rather convincing, but fundamentally it's not a big deal.
30:15🔗AdamAll bets are off and anything you have better sex. Well, you gotta look at it this way, everybody, with every test and everything. Uh, whatever makes sense, that's how you know. I mean, if three-quarters of the population is uncircumcised and you read an article as this people with foreskins are dropping dead, do the math. And it's, uh, I would ask you to do the same math with the second-hand smoke. It's a first-rate killer? Know anyone who's died of second-hand smoke? Ever talked to anyone who's in the hospital for second-hand smoke? Any relatives, any friends, anyone who went to school with? No, no, no? Okay. Then it's time to question the data. Heather? Hi. You're 29. Yep. What's up?
30:55🔗CallerMy only problem is that I am addicted to young Americans.
31:52🔗GuestGo to the wb.com. Okay. And go to the message boards. And I have a lot of messages posted with the addresses and everything on there. Find everything you need there.
32:21🔗AdamYou can watch an episode Friday and an episode on Monday as well. Or sorry, Wednesday as well. Thank you. A little trick question there. Sleep. You're really bad.
32:30🔗GuestBut we will be moving to Mondays. August 21st.
33:29🔗AdamI eat 10 of those washed out kids of Bacardi. Great, aren't they?
33:32🔗DrewBut Viopiates can make you vomit. It might just be that, okay?
33:36🔗AdamI wish I wasn't such a heavyweight. I really am. I was putzing around my house. I was three in the morning. I'm putzing around. Not tired at all. I go have a couple of Tylenol PM. Ten minutes, 15 minutes, nothing. So I have a few glasses of wine. Nothing. So I start smoking some pie. And my next move is I'm going to hit myself over the head with a god damn bat. It's like it's 3.30. I walk around my house with enough junk in me. You know, there's stuff they shoot, stuff they shoot rhinos with so they can tag them. And I'm just walking around house 3.30. I should be asleep anyway. I mean, I should be sleeping at 3.30 anyway, right?
34:19🔗DrewBut you're thinking about framing. Yeah, I was.
34:24🔗AdamI'm like a 5-year-old. I got to do this. We should have gone to the bathroom together. I don't get that excited about anything, but I'm framing my garage. I'm adding a garage onto my garage, another garage, and I'm framing it. And I'm pumped. I'm pumped about framing this garage. And it's a long story. I'll save it for my shrink. But the garage is very symbolic for me because I grew up without garages and I always wanted a garage. And now I'm framing a colossal garage. And I have dreams about framing garages at night. I can't sleep. I'm too excited about getting up and framing it.
35:31🔗GuestAll right, we're going to take a little break.
35:32🔗AdamKate and Ian are both here from Young Americans, Wednesday night and Friday night, on the www.vb. Switching to Monday nights on August 21st. We'll take a little break. We'll be back after this.
35:46🔗We'll be right back. Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.
35:57🔗AdamAnd I'm Adam Corolla, and you're listening to Loveline on Lansing's 921 The Edge. Hey, it's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew, Kate Manick, and Ian Somerhalder, both here, from Young Americans, Wednesday night, and repeating again on Friday night, nine o'clock on the WB, and August 21st, moving to Monday night. Alrighty. You know, it was funny. I was, I don't know why I have to voice everything on this show, but earlier I said it was on Friday, and then I said Monday, and I didn't want to say Monday. It's just I said Friday first instead of Wednesday. It's on Wednesday and Friday nights. And I said Friday.
36:47🔗AdamHere's my point. Instead of saying it was on Wednesday and Friday nights, like twenty minutes ago when I screwed it up, I said it's on Friday, and then I went, oh, and I got to say Wednesday nights, but I went to Monday because I had to skip to like the new week in my brain. So the bottom line is... I can go back. Wednesday, Friday, that's right, nine o'clock. There you have it, everyone. Mike?
38:28🔗DrewIf you have any concern, just have a doctor take a look at it. It's not something they're not used to seeing. They see these things all the time.
38:40🔗AdamNo. What Mike? You know, it always makes me nervous when someone says Adam. I don't know why. It's my name on the show, but I always get nervous. What?
38:49🔗CallerWhat am I supposed to do? Like walking the doctor off and say, look at this. I got a purple circle.
38:57🔗DrewThey will come into my office and ask all kinds of funny things about their skin. And when men come in, that's the skin they're usually worried about.
39:04🔗GuestThe doctors, that's what they're supposed to do. It should be really important to get it taken care of.
39:11🔗CallerWell, first of all, I just want to say that I love you both, Adam and Drew. I've been listening to the show forever. And like you guys have been sort of like a surrogate father for me.
39:28🔗CallerWell, I'm not a very attractive person, but people are always trying to make me feel better about it, and it's kind of insulting to me, but I don't know how to get them to stop without hurting their feelings.
39:42🔗CallerI don't know. Usually, I really don't pay that much attention. Somehow, the subject just comes up, and I'm like, well, not everybody can be attractive, you know. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, you're pretty, blah, blah, blah. It's just really insulting, because I know I'm not.
39:57🔗AdamWell, how do you know? Maybe they mean it.
40:09🔗DrewPeople wouldn't say people are pretty if they're not pretty. They would say, hey, you're attractive. Not repeatedly. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
40:14🔗GuestThese are your friends who are talking to you?
40:27🔗CallerUm, I don't know. I just... I'm just not good looking. I mean, not everybody is good looking.
40:34🔗AdamWell, you know, that's a very good point. More people ought to just come to grips with that.
40:39🔗DrewAdam and I, for years, have had to understand that.
40:41🔗AdamOh, Drew, you're very good looking. And I have a sense of humor, so I'm fine. And now I'm a millionaire, literally a millionaire. So, really.
40:52🔗AdamI'm building a garage. Hey, Jennifer? Yeah? Why make it an issue, though? I guess that's the question. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, maybe there's, you know, there's people that are better looking than you, and then there's people you're better looking than. So why don't you just call the day? You know what I mean? I mean, why is it an on-going issue?
41:12🔗CallerIt just makes me really uncomfortable.
41:14🔗AdamYeah, but it seems like you're bringing it up and you're sort of... Well, you're the one who's talking about how you're not attractive. And when you do say you're not attractive in front of people who are decent people, they're going to say, oh, yes, you are attractive. And then you're not going to believe them.
41:31🔗DrewBut they don't even use the word attractive. They say pretty.
41:34🔗AdamOh, who cares, Drew? They don't even use the word attractive anyway.
42:01🔗AdamThat's good. That means nothing wrong with you. So, tall, nothing wrong with you. Fine. Whatever it is, it's your self-esteem. Any guys ask you out?
42:54🔗DrewThis whole situation, this whole... The picture you're painting doesn't feel right. Have sex with just some guy you can't even tell us who he was. Just some guy.
43:11🔗AdamSo now you don't care. So your self-esteem has been damaged because your dad doesn't love you, right?
43:17🔗DrewAnd it seems like part of this is some sort of distortion of how you view yourself relative to your peers. God knows these days the way the media pumps out idealized images of women. It's hard for any young woman, I think, to feel good about themselves. But you particularly are making issue with it and even in the face of reality, people that you trust in your reality are telling you otherwise, you dismiss it wholeheartedly.
43:39🔗AdamImagine what that does to your psyche, especially as a girl. I was just talking to a friend of mine who was on the phone with me. I was talking to a friend on the phone on the ride home from the Teen Choice Awards and he has a three-year-old daughter and he said every time he gets on the phone his daughter starts screaming daddy, daddy, daddy, you know, look at me, pay attention to me and she won't even do it until he picks up the phone or if he picks up another child or is playing with another.
44:04🔗DrewBut it's Daniel who hasn't seen his daughter for three weeks.
44:06🔗AdamIt's not Daniel, it's Chris. How dare you. The point is this, I said to him, hey, you gotta be careful with little girls. It's different than little boys and this guy is on the phone. But imagine as a little girl, your daddy just kind of goes, I'm moving to West Virginia, I'll see you whenever. I mean, forget it. Of course, you're not important to me. You're not worth it. No one should love you that much.
44:31🔗GuestThat's no reason not to love yourself though. Seriously.
44:37🔗AdamBut that's the way you would feel about yourself. I mean, everyone just close your eyes and picture your dad as a little girl just going, yeah, I'm moving and never calling you again.
45:01🔗CallerWhat's up? I have a friend who I'm mildly attracted to. I was attracted to her right up until the point that I found out that she kind of gets around.
46:43🔗AdamListen, listen everyone, I'm going to give all you 14, 15, 18, everyone before 30 a lot of freedom here. You're not going to marry this person.
46:52🔗AdamYou'll be one of the guys who her next girlfriend's pissed about banging her. You understand? Just jump in, have some fun, her next boyfriend, and get out. That's right. The next guy. He's really?
47:33🔗AdamAnd I'm Adam Corolla, and you're listening to Loveline on Lansing's 92.1, The Edge. Hey, it is Loveline and Corolla and Dr. Drew! That was some of my best timing ever. Let's end the show. We're going out on a high note.
47:59🔗AdamYeah! Best moment of the last three years of the show, really was. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. We have from the Young Americans on the WB. By the way, it's at 9 o'clock Wednesday, Friday night, and switching to Monday on August 21st. Kate Meneg and Ian Somerhalder. Hello. They... Ian is in Kate on the show, and Kate is a boy, but not really.
48:45🔗CallerJust one night me, my brother and my boyfriend were getting high. And before I passed out, I saw my brother and my boyfriend together. They're making out.
50:07🔗AdamThat's bogus. You can't even piece together your own god damn story. Where were you? And think about it for a second. You're stoned off your ass. Your brother and boyfriend are there. You're starting to pass out.
50:21🔗AdamYeah. Go to sleep. Yeah. You're starting to go to sleep, and you see these two making out, and you can't help. And you go, the same man has spoken. I mean, you figured you'd wake up in 20 minutes, and they're going to be blowing each other, right?
50:38🔗GuestI was going to ask her where their hands were, but it just didn't seem like it was going to happen.
50:48🔗CallerWell, I have very sporadic menstruation cycles, so I have to go to the doctor, and I think I'm going to have to take birth control pills, and I'm afraid that they'll make my breasts grow. Like, I don't want them to. Is there a...
51:24🔗AdamWe really turned the corner. Here, you know what I mean? I thought you were going to say she has tremendous cans already and couldn't tolerate them getting any bigger. Let them grow a little bit. To be able to drive them bigger.
51:35🔗CallerYeah, I'd really... I just... I don't know why. I try to make them look smaller even. I used to have a boyfriend that would make fun of me and so... Like, I don't want them bigger.
51:45🔗DrewTo make fun of you? To make fun of you? For having breasts?
51:49🔗GuestSo why would you take the pill and make them bigger?
51:51🔗CallerWell, I need to take the pill because to get my cycle regular, because it's very irregular.
51:57🔗AdamHold on one second. I've said it a thousand times. I'll say it a thousand more times before I'm off the show. We have the world's dumbest callers on the show. And the reason you can't logic with these idiots is because they're complete idiots. And they say stuff like, okay, here's how this whole question goes. I'm supposed to get on the pill to regulate my period but I'm scared my breast will grow. My small breasts. No, I'm just scared my breast will grow. Okay, so they must be big. What size are they? They're B cup. Okay, so relatively small breasts. Then, well, people made fun of me because they were small. So why don't you want to get on the pill and see if they grow? Oh, it's to regulate my period.
53:25🔗AdamYour breasts are small and they're going to get marginally bigger, maybe. Why is that an issue?
53:33🔗CallerI don't know. I just really do want them bigger.
53:37🔗AdamOkay. Oh, I see. You don't want them bigger. Okay. Well, you should have come forward with that in the beginning. You can't articulate yourself any better than that. You just got to keep saying, I don't want them bigger.
53:49🔗GuestDo you want to know what type of pill to take?
53:51🔗AdamYou can't say anything more than that, Melissa.
53:53🔗DrewThere's no reason you don't want them bigger.
53:56🔗CallerI don't want that kind of attention. I've seen...
54:48🔗DrewThey're going to put you on a monophasic pill and those are the ones that are most effective at regulating period and preventing ovarian cysts, this sort of thing, maybe helping with endometriosis. And those are the ones that do maybe increase the breast, but talk to the doctor about being on the lowest possible as you can go.
55:03🔗AdamYou can bind them, you know, you can use some tape or a stand.
55:07🔗DrewYou know, what your parents have been doing to your feet for years is to do your breast.
55:11🔗AdamYeah, my dad bound my penis. That's an Italian tradition. That's what happened. Yeah, I mean, I suspect. He denies it vehemently, but when I held a gun to him the other day and pulled the trigger back, he then copped to it, so I now know it's true. All right, and Melissa is kind of weird, right?
55:29🔗GuestIt's kind of weird, like, Melissa's got some weird stuff floating around.
55:41🔗DrewI know you did. You had so much aggression and rage, you never got to the shame.
55:45🔗AdamShut up, Drew. You're so, oh, yeah, Drew, why are you so shameful? What the hell's up with you? You think everyone's shameful because you were filled with shame.
56:03🔗AdamHe seems confident. No, you think he's confident because you'd be confident if you were him, but he's a mess. That about sums it up, right? Alex, you're 24.
56:15🔗CallerBasically, I was molested when I was a little kid and I've been to like five or six therapists since then and it doesn't work.
56:23🔗DrewSo, I just wanted to know if it's possible to get over it yourself without having to Let's just say that having gone to five or six means that you haven't given it a chance.
56:32🔗CallerI have. I went for years. I mean, since I was 14, I've been going Years to the same person?
56:37🔗CallerNo, I went to one person for you, another person for two and they all told me the same thing and it's like what did they tell you? Just that I have to deal with my anger towards that person. I have to deal with the emotions and then they always try to blame my mother and every time I feel like I'm making progress, I'll regret and then they put me on medications which was, you know, medicine sometimes if the result of that experience was some alteration of your brain's circuitry.
57:30🔗DrewActually, a lead article in JAMA this week talked about a certain hormone in the brain that gets sort of altered by these sorts of traumas and leaves people at risk for various kinds of psychiatric disturbances.
57:42🔗AdamAll right, so Alex, I don't think you have much choice here. You really don't. I mean, you got to find a therapist you like and work with them. Let's listen. Okay, good. Let's open this up.
57:54🔗DrewLet's talk about this. Are there creative solutions if somebody has tried therapy and let's say they get on medicine and get the most they can out of that, whatever those alterations are. Are there not, and through history, haven't humans found solutions to these sorts of things? Now, in the old days, they'd wage war.
58:13🔗DrewYou have to want to get better, but there are creative solutions. I mean, there are solutions. There are actions you can take to make yourself feel better and to feel more in control of your affect. I think it's different for every person.
58:29🔗CallerThat's basically my question. I mean, I read a lot of books, and I don't want to put on any more medicine because it's not real. It's not how I really feel.
59:02🔗AdamAnd certain men you're with, and there's going to be certain intimate moments or something where they're going to bring up feelings. So when those feelings are brought up, how about you recognize those feelings are being brought up and deal with them instead of sort of react on them?
59:19🔗CallerWell, I've never had consensual effects.
59:22🔗DrewOkay. So you keep getting in the sort of forces?
59:24🔗CallerI can't. Every time I've tried, I can't. And they end up feeling weird and then...
59:29🔗AdamRight. Okay. Here's another one then. You can do stuff like just go on long walks. You know, go on like an hour long walk every day through...
59:44🔗DrewOr find creative kinds of outlets for yourself.
59:47🔗GuestRight. Get a journal and write every night.
59:49🔗DrewOr read these more formally. Are you an artist? Are you a... What do you... The only thing I would caution against is becoming quixotic in terms of... I know you're going to...
1:00:00🔗DrewNo. I mean, don't always be jousting with windmills. In other words, don't pick creative solutions where you're building cases against the man or the world or everything's bad out there. Don't always be fighting with, you know, imaginary demons out there.
1:00:15🔗AdamWe don't want to see you protesting at the Democratic Convention.
1:00:19🔗DrewWe don't want to see you there. We would have to see you do a creative positive kind of thing.
1:00:23🔗AdamYeah, it's so funny. You know, whenever I see people protesting anything, even worthy causes now, I always just think, something's up with that person. I don't even think about the cause anymore. First of all, the first thing I think is...
1:00:37🔗AdamFirst thing I think is, A, it's Wednesday, it's noon, you've handcuffed yourself to a bulldozer. Why don't you work? A number one is, A, asshole, get to work.
1:00:48🔗AdamAnd number two is... Issues. How are you... Wait a minute. Now, you know, I watch the news. I don't read, I believe it poisons my mind, but I do watch the news. And what are you talking about, you know, the Democratic or the Republican Party is poisoning the world or whatever it is? I mean, what do you know that we don't know? Like, remember when these guys were in Seattle at the Financers, the World Finance Association or whatever? What are they doing? You know what I mean? I mean, didn't these people drive a car to get to the gig? And aren't they wearing a pair of Nikes? And you know what I mean? When they fly, they fly in a Boeing or they build their own jet out of tree bark. I mean, who exactly is the man? And I remember we had this, we just keep going on tangency, but we had this band, Chumbawamba, out there.
1:01:41🔗AdamThank God they faded into nothing. Awful, awful man. Because they're in here talking about, they're in here talking about anarchy, about how the records should be free, and everyone should just take it, everyone should take everything, and we should all, there should be no garbage men, and there should be no cops, and there should be no presidents, and there should be no pilots, we should all just take turns doing everything.
1:02:04🔗DrewThere should be policemen if they want to be. Remember that?
1:02:09🔗AdamWell, that's what I told. That's like, listen, you idiots, everyone should just take what they want, and how would you guys get money for your records, and how would you fly over here from England? And just whoever wants to fly the plane, flies the plane?
1:02:22🔗DrewYeah, that's what they were like, yes, people would want to fly the plane.
1:02:25🔗AdamLike, it's just sort of a, it's really sort of BS fantasy utopia. Alright, so whatever, whatever last caller you need to do, she needs to go for a walk, right? But don't chain yourself to a bulldozer while you're walking. That's what we're saying. Robert?
1:02:43🔗CallerWell, I got a couple questions for Drew, mainly. Yeah. One is, over at least the last five years, I've been using ecstasy, heroin, and cocaine. And I had some questions about the long-term effects on them.
1:03:00🔗AdamWell, thank God, you haven't gotten into the hard drugs.
1:03:06🔗DrewWell, so it really doesn't matter, does it? What matters is how you get your addiction treated. And whatever the long-term effects are going to be, they're going to be.
1:03:15🔗AdamWell, when you say that heroin would be the number one thing to be addicted to?
1:03:18🔗DrewHeroin causes, yeah, indeed, if you are using two or three dugs, the drug that causes the most intense addictive disease is the disease natural history that you're going to follow. That is to say, you're going to be a heroin addict. That's what's going to go on with your life.
1:03:32🔗AdamIronically, that one's not so bad for you.
1:03:36🔗CallerI've already kicked that addiction once, and it's only a very infrequent thing in my life at the moment.
1:03:44🔗DrewInterestingly, Freud thought he'd found a discovery. He discovered a treatment for heroin addiction, too, cocaine. Indeed, you can cross over to cocaine from heroin and back and forth. You can use pot, too, sometimes, and alcohol, too, sometimes. That's all the same addictive course. Heroin again is going to be your primary natural history. My biggest thing is, because I've been using one thing or another since I was 13 years old, the problem is that because heroin addiction is going to be the primary issue here, the most significant outcome of your whole circumstance is death. So long-term issues are not relevant until you get your addiction treated.
1:04:26🔗CallerOkay. The other thing is, the only reason why cocaine and heroin have come back up in my life is because of my living situation.
1:04:35🔗DrewThey will always come back up. This is every addict I've ever dealt with.
1:04:40🔗DrewEvery addict I've ever dealt with has got a period of time where he can control it and get off it and on it and off it and each time. It's a progressive disease. So each time it gets more intense and worse and more difficult to get off.
1:04:49🔗AdamWhy are you working for Manuel Escobar? What tells the guy's Pablo?
1:04:56🔗CallerDoesn't it inhibit the productivity of your life?
1:05:04🔗AdamWhere are you living now that the drugs will come back?
1:05:08🔗CallerI had a bad ending to a relationship and I had to get out of where I was at and a friend helped me out and well, just it's around my house a lot.
1:05:20🔗AdamOkay, all right, well get out of there.
1:05:22🔗CallerWell I'm working on that at the moment.
1:05:49🔗AdamThey're mean, they are mean, mean, steely-eyed foreigners who yell at you through that speaker. It always cracks me up, yeah. All right, here we go. Thomas?
1:06:07🔗CallerI have a little issue. I always need sex. It seems like I always need sex. My wife puts out and stuff, but the problem is, I don't know, I'm not sure if I get it enough or like, because we have like every other day, right?
1:06:29🔗DrewSince you were 15? And how old was she at that time?
1:06:34🔗CallerBut no, we've only been married for a year. We just had a kid and stuff. I still have great desires to get it more often, more frequently. Are you not sure if I have the problem or is this just...
1:06:42🔗DrewWell, let's already say you're already above average. Are you a sexual compulsive, do you think?
1:06:49🔗CallerI don't know. You're a doctor. You can define that better than I can.
1:06:51🔗DrewWell, the way it's defined is by its consequences more than anything. In other words, is it so intense that you do it no matter what happens to you? No, it's not. Do you spend money on sex lines? No, no, no. Do you have a relationship that is destabilized by... And it's really the fundamental question, the most common reason people become sexual compulsive is they were sexually abused in childhood. Uh-huh. Anything like that in your history?
1:08:22🔗AdamI powered through it. But, you know, your penis is like, no, no, no. Your hand is like, oh, yes. Oh, yes. You may be like, no. No, I've had enough. Your hand is like, yeah, we're going. Game on. Your penis is like, all right, hey, do what you want, but I'm not participating. Your hand is like, oh, yes, you will. Come on.
1:08:39🔗GuestThe aesthetics of talking to your penis.
1:08:41🔗AdamYeah. And then your brain is like, I don't know, kind of half-on. And it's like, so your hand is like, hey, brain, talk to the penis. Let's get going here. And the brain's like, I don't know, I kind of agree with the penis. And then the hand, then I do is I punch myself in the head. Yeah. And that's a smart now, are you?
1:08:59🔗DrewWe can't talk in front of him. Hey, we got to go to break.
1:09:02🔗AdamOh, we do? All right. Why don't we come back and speak to Anthony, who's 17. He's having sex with his cousin, and now she thinks she's pregnant.
1:09:22🔗AdamDo not try to pigeonhole our calls. They're screwed up people all over the map. That's right. We'll take a little break. We'll be back with Anthony after this.
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1:10:47🔗AdamYeah, it seems a hell of a lot easier to launch one of these campaigns electronically.
1:10:51🔗GuestThat's what we're doing. If you have a pen, people write this down, please email Jamie Kellner at, he's the head of the WB, at Jamie, J-A-M, J-A-M-I-E dot Kellner, K-E-L-L-N-E-R at talk dot the wb.com.
1:11:24🔗AdamOkay. My guy was real good. My guy was like, hello, Ms. Farrell, let me get the door for you. So I thought, I better give a guy a tip. So we pulled up in front of my house in the limo and my wallet was up in the house. So I said, well, let me go up and get the tip and I'll bring it down. And then I thought... You forgot. No, I thought, well, screw that, you come up with me because I don't have to come back down then. No, I'm giving you the tip. Why should I help you? I got a lot of stairs to get to my house. Is he a rapist? He... I don't look at myself as being a rape, but yes, in the eyes of the law and God, yes, I was raped. No, he was saying, all right, and he did some... He was a driver. He said, look, you know, you ought to... I'll send you an email, blah, blah, blah. And I said, I don't have an email and address. And he goes, oh, I'll get you all set up. I'll help you do it. And I said, no. I said, you don't understand. I'm avoiding this. And he was like, oh, but it's so easy. And I said, no, no.
1:12:52🔗CallerIt was a benefit from social distortion because Dennis Dinell died. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I was at Irvine Meadows. I didn't know about that.
1:14:23🔗CallerMaybe that too, but I'm just going to have a hard time. The main question is, I'm going to...
1:14:27🔗DrewHey, wait a minute, Anthony. You're 17. How about doing what's right for the kid? Having a hard time giving a child up for adoption.
1:14:32🔗AdamOh, you don't even care. You don't even know if it's yours, you idiot. Why don't you go talk to her? Why don't you talk to her? Figure out what's going on.
1:14:39🔗CallerIt's not so much her, it's my uncle, because me and my uncle are really close.
1:14:42🔗DrewYeah, well, help get this child a start in life with parents who are really ready to raise a child.
1:14:49🔗AdamYeah, hey, Anthony, here's the deal, and here's a message I'd like more young men to understand. There's a kid out there. I know you and your uncle are pretty tight, and you guys like to go out fishing and stuff like that, and you don't give a rat's ass about her, and she's some ho, and who knows. But there's a kid, you understand? A kid is not going to have a dad, or if he does have a dad, he's going to be 17, and have his learner's permit, and not have a job, and not be prepared to take care of him.
1:15:18🔗AdamWe're talking about the kid here, all right? So because you're having sex, and you're acting like an adult, now you may have to shoulder some of the responsibilities of being an adult. You can't just sort of lay back and think about Anthony, or think about your uncle. You got to talk to her, you got to find out what's going on, what her plans are, and do what's best for this kid.
1:15:47🔗AdamDid I say abortion? Yeah. All right, Anthony?
1:15:50🔗CallerYeah, but the thing is, she only comes on to me when she wants to.
1:15:54🔗AdamOkay. I'm glad he got that message. Listen, you want to know why this country is heading the direction it's going? It's like, Anthony's daddy, everybody! I gave Anthony a big, long-winded speech about dad and responsibility and being a man, and he's like, She only comes on to me when she wants to. To get the point. Listen, okay, here's the deal, everybody. I wish someone would have this conversation with my parents, by the way, who I don't actually technically consider parents. Here's the deal. If you're going to... Here's... Drew? I'm listening. What? Ian?
1:16:32🔗AdamIf you really think about it, what makes a parent a parent or what makes a good parent a parent? It is sort of giving yourself up for somebody else.
1:16:51🔗AdamAnd if you're a parent who stays up late working on homework with your kid when you got to get up real early and work the swing shift or the graveyard or whatever, that's good parenting. But if you're sitting watching TV getting drunk while your kid's in the alley playing with firecrackers, you're a bad parent. So it's like the more energy, the more focus, the more time, the more giving, the more selflessness that's involved with this, the better the parent you are. And the thing about- But these kids- Let Anthony, now where does Anthony rate on that scale?
1:17:21🔗AdamYou think he's the guy who jumps in front of the train or is he the guy who gets loaded watching wrestling?
1:17:26🔗GuestHe's going to be the guy sitting there going, well, she only comes on to me when she wants to.
1:17:30🔗AdamWell, it's all about Anthony. And that's fine. Because when you're 17, that's how it goes. It's all about you. I mean, especially for guys. I mean, you don't have it in your biology at 17, 18. You don't have it at 23, 24.
1:17:45🔗GuestNo, the 20s are even worse because that's when your life starts.
1:17:47🔗AdamYou're in your own ass. It's like whatever works. Whoever I can have the most sex with, however I can make the most money, whatever works best for me. That's what happens. And then somewhere in your early 30s, you realize you're going to die.
1:18:03🔗AdamYou gotta sire a few niblets before you plant yourself. And that's when that biology starts kicking in. But at 17, it ain't there. And if we're going to let a bunch of 17, 18-year-old guys knock up women, we're in bad shape in this country. And those crazy broads, what the hell is that? That councilwoman's name? Did you know what the hell I was talking to her about? Maxine Waters. What is she, the Democratic whip or something? What is Maxine Waters?
1:18:35🔗AdamShe's a congresswoman. Maxine Waters, she represents California. I was talking to her about the morning after pills. She never heard of it. And no idea what I was talking about. That's doing your job, honey.
1:19:15🔗DrewYeah. That's really what you should do. If you can't, if you're afraid to tell your mom, get to the social services where somebody can intervene on your behalf.
1:19:21🔗CallerYeah, but she really likes him a lot.
1:20:55🔗AdamFirst she said it was her stepfather. Then she said it was her mom's boyfriend. Then she said it happened a month ago. Then she said they were going out for a month. Now she's saying it's the first time they met. It could all still be true except for the stepfather part. That's, she screwed that part up. But the first time he met her, he raped her. He'd been going out with her mom for like two days and raped her daughter.
1:22:21🔗AdamShe keeps it in a trunk. By the way, it's a number two pencil. In a seaman's trunk. In a foot locker.
1:22:29🔗DrewBoth these numbers are 800 numbers, okay? Five four zero, four thousand, and four two two, four four, five three. Those are numbers you can call right now.
1:22:51🔗DrewJust tell them what you told us and they can give you resources in your area and refer you to where you need to go. Definitely, definitely you need to...
1:22:59🔗AdamHow about calling... what about the cops too?
1:23:01🔗DrewWell, but let's start at this resource line. They will be confidential. They won't force anything on you. Just like calling us, okay?
1:23:09🔗AdamHey Kelsey, what did he do? Did he threaten you?
1:23:13🔗CallerWell, yeah, he said if I told my mom he would leave her.
1:23:19🔗DrewYeah, thank God. How pathetic is your mom that you would want her to stay with this guy?
1:23:24🔗CallerWell, she's had like a lot of boyfriends and I think she really likes him.
1:23:30🔗DrewYeah, but she doesn't know what he's all about.
1:23:32🔗AdamYeah, but what if she was dating Satan? Would you want them to be together?
1:23:40🔗AdamThis guy's Satan's caddy. Alright? I mean, listen, Kelsey, this guy's sort of a cancer that your mom is dating. He needs to be cut out of her life. So, whatever you do is okay. This is like saying your mom really likes heroin so you don't want to get rid of the heroin. It's bad for her.
1:24:14🔗AdamBut now it's, you know, you're getting older, you're going to be an adult and now you've got to stand up. So you make a move in your life now, right?
1:24:59🔗AdamI swear to God, I was saying they're handing it out. They're handing out oral sex in high school. We talk to girls all the time, they're like 15, 16, I gave him a BJ. Oh, I didn't like him, I just want to shut him up. He paid, you know. We went to Red Lobster's, I figured I owed him something. What? What? I never... Ann, you weren't handing this out, huh? You don't give them now. Yeah, I know.
1:25:24🔗AdamAll right, we're going to take a break. Was I telling you about... Was I telling you about the concrete guy who was filming the porn movie of the South?
1:26:20🔗AdamYep, it is Loveline and Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L. Oh, forget about that phone number. Kate Menaghan and Ian Sarrall. They're both here from Young Americans, Wednesday night, on the WWWB. Also Friday night, 9 o'clock. And starting August 21st, switching. His eyes closed. Switching to Monday night, 9 o'clock. And if you're into the show, please, or even if you're not into the show. Send a flag. Send a flag. Alright, so, oh, I was talking about the concrete guys. Yeah, this will be fast. So, we'll get back to the screwed up kids. You know how I'm real excited about my garage addition. Last Wednesday, I was, they were pumping the concrete, doing the slab. Floating, straight beams. I don't know about that stuff. 24 yards of concrete in that thing.
1:27:19🔗AdamThat's what they need. Need you to build a bunker these days. Anyway, the concrete guy whose crack was hanging out real good, the guy was down on all fours finishing the slab off. The thing I love about trades guys, and the thing I miss most about that business, is how they open up to you almost immediately. Like Russ the welder, who the first day I met him, he told me to put Pop Rocks in his wife's snatch.
1:27:49🔗AdamHe used the P word actually, is what he used, but it was great. So this guy is finishing my slab, and I'm looking at the plans, and I'm talking about headers and trimmers and double top plates and treated sills and mudsills and the sheer wall and all this kind of stuff. And this guy thought I was the framing contractor. So he starts talking to me, and he's looking at my car, and he goes, where's your truck? And I go, I don't drive a truck anymore. He goes, how do you work out of that car? And I said, I own this place. I'm not the contractor. And he goes, well, you're doing all right. What business? You used to be in this business, but what business are you in now? And I said, entertainment. And he said, you know I'm a big star by the way, but I got no idea what I was. I couldn't figure out how I made so much money as a framer. And he said, so he goes, yeah, well, I'm in the entertainment. I'm a little bit in the entertainment business myself. Yeah, I live out in Chatsworth. They film porn movies at my house. And well, the other month is seven black guys were banging this white chick on my sofa. I threw the sofa out. And I was like, all right. Hey, what's your name again? First conversation I have with the guy who was telling me about the seven black guys were banging a white chick on his sofa. Made a special note to tell me through the sofa. Yeah, I don't have much furniture in there, just that one sofa. I threw that out. Rick?
1:29:18🔗CallerYes, I is. Quick question for you. First of all, I'd like to say I think you guys do a great job for a lot of people and we appreciate you. I've been a somewhat avid pump smoker for a while now and I've lost about 40 pounds overweight and I'm going to start working out and I wanted to know if there's any side effects. I heard that THC gets stored in fat cells. Is that true or false?
1:29:41🔗DrewThat's absolutely true and you will release it from the fat as you lose weight and exercise.
1:29:46🔗CallerAs you're running, you'll be remembering a dead show from a few years ago?
1:29:49🔗DrewYou can get high. I've had patients even a few weeks out, they start running, start exercising, they'll suddenly feel high again. Really?
1:30:28🔗AdamIt's my favorite porn movie from 1978. It's about a guy who's having sex with his mom and his sister. They don't write lyrics like that anymore.
1:31:56🔗CallerOkay, last Friday, my husband, he said he was going to work, and well, he never came home. Saturday, he called from Texas. And well, we have four kids together, and I don't know what to tell the kids.
1:32:16🔗CallerWell, he said that he regrets leaving, but the whole time we were here in San Diego, he wanted to leave. He just left everything. He left his clothes, everything.
1:32:45🔗AdamYeah, listen, first off, you keep an eye on those boys. If they cause any trouble, I hold you personally responsible. Now, what's he doing in Texas?
1:32:52🔗CallerWell, he has a family up there, as far as his mother.
1:32:57🔗DrewIf I were you, I would raise holy hell with everybody, his family, his friends. This guy is a despicable ass. He left you his forehand. He needs to be made to feel that way. And no one should let him out from one of those responsibilities. And if anyone around him is anything slightly more than that, they won't let him get away with this crap.
1:33:17🔗CallerRight, right. Well, I guess that's my question. I really don't know what to do. How to answer the kids' questions, where their dad is.
1:33:28🔗AdamWell, why don't you just BS the kids for the time being until you get this straightened out, tell them dad's working, you know, he's working out of town.
1:33:39🔗CallerI said, well, before he left, his bags were packed. He had constantly been picking fights with me. And I had called counseling to try to get us to go there.
1:34:48🔗AdamWell, sorry the show has to break into Katie and Ian and Drew and my hit lorick plan to take over the world and all the alterations we'd make. Everyone, go out there and watch Young Americans, WB, Wednesday nights, nine o'clock, and Friday nights, nine o'clock, and soon to be Monday nights at nine o'clock, starting August 21st. Thanks, guys. We're plum out of time, but we do appreciate you coming in. Thank you very, very much.
1:35:18🔗AdamUntil next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. You can't articulate yourself any better than that.
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