Sunday, June 18, 2000

1:58🔗 Voiceover Loveline, One Minute Warning. Sex, drugs, disease, and addiction, served up fresh in 50 seconds. Adam's occasional humor and Drew's plethora of knowledge unleashed in 40 seconds. The world's dumbest callers can be heard coast to coast in 30 seconds. And life gets just a little bit better in only 20 seconds. Ten, nine, eight, seven, six.

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3:03🔗 Voiceover Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew.

3:05🔗 Voiceover I'm not modeling anymore for the two of you.

3:08🔗 Voiceover Loveline.

3:09🔗 Adam Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Our phone number is 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-44-55. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. And tonight we have a little bit of a surprise, sort of Loveline serendipity. Stephan Jenkins is here from Third Eye Blind.

3:29🔗 Third Eye Blind Hi, thanks for having me.

3:31🔗 Adam We saw Third Eye Blind yesterday at the big K-Rock Weenie Roast concert and they were great. And Drew, I guess, wrangled Stephan backstage and asked him if he wanted to come on the show tonight.

3:42🔗 Drew No, no, he came up to me and said, why won't you have me on the show? And I said, you've got to be kidding. Tomorrow. He said, okay, I'm coming. Yeah, begging.

3:50🔗 Adam Well, he's a man of his word. If memory serves, we saw Stephan last. I'm going with Chicago.

3:57🔗 Drew That's what I said, yeah.

3:59🔗 Does that sound right?

4:00🔗 Third Eye Blind No, it was Chicago. It was Chicago. And then I saw Drew backstage. The thing is, though, Adam, I didn't see you backstage.

4:05🔗 Drew At the show. This is at San Francisco. This is where this all started.

4:08🔗 Third Eye Blind At San Francisco.

4:08🔗 Drew So we were in San Francisco, too.

4:10🔗 Adam Oh, I see.

4:10🔗 Third Eye Blind So it turns out that Dr. Drew is the one who's a little bit rock and roll in this duo.

4:15🔗 Adam He's got the funk. Yeah.

4:17🔗 Thank God for Dr. Drew.

4:18🔗 Drew I'm making the scene. Is that what they call that?

4:21🔗 Yeah, he made the scene.

4:22🔗 Adam Yeah, that's what they called it 25 years ago, Drew. You're so right about making the scene.

4:26🔗 Third Eye Blind But I like this idea of being, you know, here I'm in LA and I just drop by and do your show. You guys know that I'm a big fan of your show.

4:32🔗 Drew You can do that whenever you want.

4:33🔗 Adam Well, we're big fans of yours and you really-

4:36🔗 Third Eye Blind It's a mutual appreciation society.

4:38🔗 Adam Yeah. Well, I remember when you guys came on two and a half, three years ago now, that you've been listening from your hometown of San Francisco for some years or some time, at least before you came on. And we're glad that we caught you at the very beginning and we're glad to catch you in the midst of a good career.

4:58🔗 Drew But our Chicago experience was sort of surreal, was it? Remember that? Because we were in that Mercantile building and it was in the middle of the night, 2 in the morning.

5:05🔗 Adam Yes.

5:06🔗 Drew And you and I, I don't know where the hell we'd been.

5:08🔗 Adam Oh, God knows. Who cares? I don't want to relive that.

5:12🔗 Third Eye Blind Guys, I'm all chucked up now. Can we just move on?

5:15🔗 Yes.

5:17🔗 Third Eye Blind Unless you're going to give me a hug or something.

5:18🔗 Adam That'll be during the break. The CD is called Stuff. We're going to hear something.

5:23🔗 Third Eye Blind It's called Blue.

5:24🔗 Adam Wait a minute.

5:24🔗 Third Eye Blind Let's say that's something inside it.

5:26🔗 Adam What am I looking at?

5:27🔗 Third Eye Blind Now, the new CD is called Blue. And I think that's a merchandising insert.

5:34🔗 Adam Why do they do it to me, Drew?

5:35🔗 Third Eye Blind This is the cover of the album, actually. And it's blue.

5:37🔗 Adam What the hell was I looking at?

5:38🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

5:38🔗 Drew I'm talking to the wrong page.

5:40🔗 Third Eye Blind That's our new record.

5:41🔗 Adam There we go.

5:41🔗 That's our little baby girl.

5:43🔗 Drew And third-eye blind Stuff.

5:45🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

5:45🔗 Adam Oh, well, that is Stuff. Yeah. There you go. You can get third-eye blind Stuff by going to www.whatdrew?

5:52🔗 Third Eye Blind www.3ab.com.

5:55🔗 Adam There you go. They're going to be heading out in July with Vertical Horizon, who was on this show about two months ago, who you guys have not met.

6:04🔗 Third Eye Blind We actually, I passed one of them in a hallway and said hello, and we're going to be spending some time together. Other than that, we have not met, but it's going to be a good tour.

6:13🔗 Adam They're good guys. They're a good band.

6:16🔗 Third Eye Blind We're going to do an outdoor summer amphitheater vibe, and I think they'll be good for that because they have a jam thing. They'll bring a little hippie-dippie element to our rock show.

6:30🔗 Adam I look forward to it because you guys are good and they're good, and together, it's just going to be good times.

6:35🔗 Drew Steve was saying something really interesting about the whole vibe that's going on in the music scene, that there's a lot of hostility and rage.

6:44🔗 Adam Yeah, by white guys now.

6:46🔗 Third Eye Blind I think there's always been a lot of... Johnny Rotten said it best, anger is an energy, but it should be a smart energy. I don't know.

6:56🔗 Drew Too much of the F-word.

6:58🔗 Third Eye Blind I just...

7:00🔗 Adam We're talking about yesterday's Weenie Rose.

7:02🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah, we're talking about the Weenie Rose, but I got to send a shout out to Fred Durst, because I think he sort of gets a bad rap, and then sort of always inciting people, but what I heard Fred say in front of 45,000 people is if you see somebody get hurt, help them out. If you see somebody fall, help them out. And I think he was the only guy who said that yesterday, Mr. Durst. So I beg up to my man.

7:23🔗 Adam I left before things got out of hand, because I had to go to the Fox Memorial in Santa Monica, the foul-mouthed drunken beer-drinking piano player who was on the Man Show last season, and passed away, unfortunately. But don't worry, we raised a toast to him and sung more foul songs in Santa Monica. Speaking of the Man Show, premiere tonight, 10 o'clock, right now. Don't turn the radio off, just turn the TV on. That's all I'm saying. All right, well, Letterman, you guys will be on the 27th, and we'll play something off of Blue and all that stuff. But first, Paul?

8:04🔗 Drew Yeah.

8:04🔗 Adam Year 16, what's up?

8:06🔗 Well, I'm at this chick online, and I mean, I don't really know if I should meet her in person, because she's already talking about that, and I mean.

8:15🔗 Drew How long have you been talking to her?

8:16🔗 Oh, about three months now.

8:18🔗 Drew And if you're not interested in meeting her, why is that beginning to happen? Or how do you tell her you don't want to meet? Is that what you're asking?

8:24🔗 Well, I'm interested in meeting her. It's just, I mean, I don't really know if I should.

8:27🔗 Drew How old is she?

8:28🔗 She's 15.

8:29🔗 Adam Where does she live?

8:30🔗 She lives out by Detroit.

8:33🔗 Drew Where do you live?

8:34🔗 I live down by Fort Wayne in Arcola.

8:36🔗 Drew How old are you?

8:38🔗 Third Eye Blind How old are you again?

8:38🔗 Drew 16.

8:39🔗 Third Eye Blind 16.

8:40🔗 Drew I would say no. I think if somebody is more than sort of 50 miles out of your radius, at 16, forget it. There's nothing going to happen.

8:47🔗 Third Eye Blind I'm just catching more on the buzzword of 15-year-old chick.

8:50🔗 Adam Yeah.

8:51🔗 Third Eye Blind So now 15-year-old chick is not working for me.

8:54🔗 Adam And Indiana, I mean, you're Indiana, she's Detroit. I mean, Paul, come on.

8:59🔗 Drew And just think about the fact that she's more desperate to meet him.

9:01🔗 Adam Yeah.

9:02🔗 Drew That does not say good things.

9:04🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

9:05🔗 Adam And what if you meet her, what if you guys fall in love and then she goes back to Detroit and you go back to Indiana? Then you're miserable.

9:11🔗 Third Eye Blind True.

9:12🔗 Adam Paul, can't you meet women?

9:13🔗 Third Eye Blind Or she could have a mustache problem and then you've got all that gas mileage behind you.

9:18🔗 Adam Because she's a guy. Paul? Yeah. You can't meet women at your school?

9:23🔗 Well, I can, but they're not that way. They're more like, well, let's just be friends.

9:28🔗 Adam Yeah. But you're going to have to get over that, no matter who you're with, no matter where you meet them.

9:33🔗 Third Eye Blind I didn't get laid in high school, Paul.

9:34🔗 Okay.

9:35🔗 Third Eye Blind Didn't work out for me.

9:36🔗 Adam Yeah.

9:37🔗 Third Eye Blind It's not going to work out, and therefore it shouldn't work out for you either.

9:40🔗 Adam Yeah. Everyone should be as miserable as Stephan was in high school and me too. But here's the thing.

9:46🔗 Third Eye Blind Blanky and alone.

9:47🔗 Adam If you had the ability to do anything other than go down the hall, look someone in the eye and ask them to the prom, you would have done it. I mean, if there was another alternative, you go home, get on the computer, not have to deal with it, make yourself a little taller, a little better looking, a little richer. I mean, I don't blame the guy, but on the other hand, eventually, he's going to have to step up, and he might as well just step up in his hometown.

10:13🔗 Yeah?

10:14🔗 Adam You're 17, what's up?

10:15🔗 Caller Yeah, I just want to say I'm a first-time listener, long-time caller.

10:19🔗 Adam Thanks. It made no sense, but I knew what you meant. Go ahead.

10:23🔗 Caller Drew, you're really cool, and...

10:26🔗 Adam Oh, man.

10:28🔗 Third Eye Blind I found you out.

10:29🔗 Adam We have to beat that out.

10:31🔗 Drew Too bad.

10:31🔗 Adam All right, he called me out.

10:32🔗 Third Eye Blind He's off to such a good start.

10:33🔗 Adam F and fudge backer.

10:34🔗 Third Eye Blind Longs time.

10:36🔗 Adam TJ? TJ, you're 19, what's up?

10:41🔗 Caller Yeah.

10:43🔗 Adam Oh, man, you gotta turn your radio down, TJ.

10:46🔗 Third Eye Blind Okay.

10:47🔗 Adam It's gonna be one of those nights. TJ's period lasts 20 days.

10:52🔗 Drew Is that right?

10:53🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

10:54🔗 Drew How long has that been going on for?

10:56🔗 Third Eye Blind Um, about the past three months.

10:59🔗 Drew So three cycles where you only had a week of each cycle where you've not been bleeding, is that right?

11:03🔗 Third Eye Blind Huh? Oh.

11:05🔗 Adam It's gonna be a long night.

11:06🔗 Third Eye Blind No, I can't hear you.

11:08🔗 Adam Can you hear us now?

11:09🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

11:09🔗 Adam Okay.

11:10🔗 Drew Three cycles where each of those cycles you've only had one week where you've not been bleeding.

11:14🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

11:15🔗 Adam Yes.

11:15🔗 Drew And are you on any medication?

11:17🔗 Third Eye Blind Uh-uh.

11:17🔗 Drew Do you do any drugs?

11:18🔗 Third Eye Blind No.

11:20🔗 Adam You gotta kill yourself, man.

11:21🔗 Drew Any possibility of being pregnant?

11:23🔗 Third Eye Blind Um, I don't know. I really haven't gone to the doctor to see about it.

11:29🔗 Adam I see.

11:30🔗 Drew Check it out a little bit here. And there's all sorts of reasons this can be happening.

11:33🔗 Adam What's your theory, TJ?

11:35🔗 Third Eye Blind Um, I don't know. It could be from my boyfriend or whatever, because I'm not really sure.

11:42🔗 Adam You think it's your boyfriend?

11:44🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, I don't know.

11:45🔗 Drew His penis isn't pointed.

11:46🔗 Adam Does he have a large penis?

11:47🔗 Drew It's like a spear.

11:48🔗 Adam Yeah, he does.

11:50🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah, and like this has never happened before with any guy I've ever been with.

11:54🔗 Adam I see. So how big is your boyfriend's penis?

11:58🔗 Third Eye Blind Like, what do you mean, when it's hard?

12:01🔗 Adam You know, when it's in between, instead of in between. Not flaccid, not hard, but a little in between. Yeah, let's go with hard.

12:08🔗 Third Eye Blind Um, I don't know about eight inches.

12:11🔗 Adam Wow. Yeah, he's a keeper. All right, so you think your theory is he may have stirred your innards?

12:18🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

12:18🔗 Adam I see. Maybe punctured a lung or something?

12:22🔗 Drew Or aorta bleeding.

12:24🔗 Third Eye Blind Can I just jump here and say, look, if you're bleeding for a really long time, just go see a doctor. Can I just, can we just shorten this thing up a bit? I'm looking to have some fun here tonight.

12:31🔗 Drew Could be pregnant, could be infection, could be thyroid conditions.

12:33🔗 Third Eye Blind Go see a doctor.

12:34🔗 Drew Absolutely.

12:35🔗 Adam Yes. Steven, you're the voice of reason as usual on the show. Melissa, you're 15. What's up?

12:42🔗 Caller I was wondering if, like, can your condom overflow with sperm if you're having sex?

12:47🔗 Adam Can your condom overflow with sperm?

12:49🔗 Caller Mm-hmm.

12:51🔗 Adam It's tough, Drew. That has a reservoir.

12:55🔗 Drew What do you mean? What does exactly happen? What are you asking?

12:59🔗 Caller I'm asking can...

13:00🔗 Drew No, no, no. What happened? Is this something you're theorizing?

13:02🔗 Caller I'm just wondering if...

13:03🔗 Drew No, don't worry about that. The problem is that it kind of slips down or slips off. And that can be a problem.

13:09🔗 Third Eye Blind Did you have a problem? It sounds like we're getting at something else here.

13:12🔗 Caller No.

13:13🔗 Adam You didn't have a problem? All right, so this is just a hypothetical for when you have sex with a condom?

13:20🔗 Caller Yeah.

13:20🔗 Adam Okay. All right, good time.

13:22🔗 Drew I'm glad you're thinking about it.

13:23🔗 Adam Yeah, that's fine. I wonder... I don't think women know how much comes out. And I think... I would estimate that they estimate it was too much.

13:33🔗 Drew Yes.

13:34🔗 Adam Wouldn't you? Like if you ask most women, most 15-year-olds, how much semen comes out of a penis, it's... I don't know, a quart.

13:41🔗 Drew Quart, maybe.

13:42🔗 Adam Yeah, if they were from Canada, they'd probably say it was about a liter.

13:45🔗 Yeah.

13:47🔗 About a liter.

13:49🔗 Adam It's really what? A teaspoon? Is that about it?

13:52🔗 Drew Yeah.

13:52🔗 Adam Yeah. And for me, it's in powder form because...

13:55🔗 Drew Powder. You're back to powder.

13:56🔗 Adam Yeah, it goes so often. It's just powder. I'll add water into my hamper later, make a nice bouillabaisse.

14:01🔗 Drew Soup.

14:02🔗 Adam Teresa?

14:03🔗 Drew Yes.

14:03🔗 Adam You're 17.

14:04🔗 Drew Steve was still trying to follow you there with the powder.

14:06🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah, the powder thing lost me and I think it lost everybody else. But you know, a teaspoon with a little hype and imagination goes a long way.

14:13🔗 Adam Teresa?

14:13🔗 Third Eye Blind All right, baby. What's up?

14:15🔗 Caller Hi. First, can I say hi to Steven?

14:18🔗 Third Eye Blind Yes, you can.

14:19🔗 Caller Hi. I saw you guys at the HF Festival. I stood out there in the rain the whole time. It was so much fun.

14:24🔗 Third Eye Blind Thanks for coming. That's sweet of you. Thank you. Did you have a good time?

14:28🔗 Caller My question was, what causes a person to get easily obsessed and like I go from one obsession to the next like nothing?

14:37🔗 Drew Well, some of that is chemistry, some of that is psychology, and some of that is just being 17. So what's the situation? What's actually happening with you?

14:45🔗 Caller Well, I end up spending so much time and energy on one person or one band, and then I'll find a new person or band.

14:57🔗 Drew Give us your latest example so we can see how far you go with this.

15:00🔗 Caller Well, I spend a whole lot of money on eBay, I'll tell you that.

15:04🔗 Drew For?

15:06🔗 Caller Okay, lately it's Korn. Yeah. I love them a lot, like a couple years ago I was really, really into them, and then it disappeared for a while. But then I saw them back in March, I went to one of their concerts and it started all over again.

15:21🔗 Adam Yeah.

15:22🔗 Third Eye Blind Yes, but Korn is great and is a worthy obsession.

15:24🔗 Drew Do you stay awake at night or unable to sleep worrying and thinking about this?

15:28🔗 Caller Well, I mean, for a couple of years now, I don't go to sleep until about like four or five. This week, the sun came up before I went to sleep.

15:39🔗 Adam Drew, you were the same with Bobby Sherman in the late 60s, weren't you?

15:43🔗 Drew Indeed, I was, but I was sort of an obsessive kid, too.

15:46🔗 Adam Yeah, well, usually, to me, it means there's not a whole lot else going on.

15:50🔗 Drew Also means you're depressed.

15:51🔗 Adam Yeah.

15:52🔗 Drew It does.

15:53🔗 Third Eye Blind But there's a healthy aspect to obsession, and I think when people are young and they're, I mean, you're a teenage, this is how people become expert in things, by being obsessive, and really, the trick about this is for you to turn these things into really positive focused things. Have you ever seen a gymnast who can do a backflip on a balance beam? This is a product of obsession. Anybody who can dunk in high school is a product of obsession.

16:19🔗 Drew Obsessive-compulsive is a quality that is reinforced by our society. Those qualities, you tend to do well in school, you tend to do well, you get to go on with things.

16:28🔗 Adam Right. But Stephen makes a real good point, which is you got to channel that energy.

16:32🔗 Drew Absolutely.

16:32🔗 Third Eye Blind You got to put these things into healthy things. I mean, the good news is that you've got a lot of energy, and you're going to have to find places that really work. If you really like corn, then what this is that you like music, and what I would suggest is, what I would tell you is that every single member of corn is utterly completely obsessive about playing music, and that's how they became corn. That's how they became good at it. So I recommend the guitar, or perhaps the bass.

16:59🔗 Adam Yeah. That's good. I like that. Jane?

17:03🔗 Caller Hi.

17:03🔗 Adam You're 14. What's up?

17:05🔗 Caller I hear voices in my head sometimes, and I'm seeing a therapist. I was wondering, are they going to put me on medication?

17:13🔗 Drew Are you doing drugs? No. And how long have you been hearing the voices for?

17:18🔗 Caller Well, I've been dealing with a lot of stress lately, but it only kicked in about a month ago.

17:24🔗 Third Eye Blind What do they say?

17:27🔗 Caller They just tell me how bad of a person I am and what I do wrong.

17:31🔗 Drew Are they actually voices you believe you're hearing, or are they just sort of tapes running in your head?

17:36🔗 Caller It's like a barking noise. It's kind of like my dad's voice when he's really angry.

17:42🔗 Adam Yeah, but does it startle you? Do you think someone's standing behind you, or is it just?

17:46🔗 Drew Yeah.

17:46🔗 Adam It does.

17:46🔗 Drew Yeah. Wow. Okay. They can't force you to take medication, but it is important for them to know how to help you. And the only way they can do that is to know exactly what you're experiencing. There's no way to make an assessment accurately without really understanding what it is that's going on with you.

18:01🔗 Third Eye Blind Are you afraid of taking medication?

18:03🔗 Caller I don't want to. Why not?

18:05🔗 Drew How come?

18:06🔗 Caller Because I don't want it to affect my life in any way. I just want to get rid of this.

18:10🔗 Drew All right. Well, medications tend to only affect things positively. That's why you take them.

18:17🔗 Third Eye Blind You think there's like a stigma attached to it? Are you ashamed of it? That's not true.

18:21🔗 Drew Not these days.

18:21🔗 Caller I don't want to tell my parents.

18:23🔗 Drew I'm just really scared of people. Just the way you've talked to us, you've got to talk to your therapist, okay?

18:29🔗 Third Eye Blind If you had an allergy and you took allergy medication, that wouldn't freak you out. So just look at it the same way.

18:35🔗 Adam All right. But you know what he's saying. From a stigma standpoint. Listen, Jane, what's worse, the medication or hearing the voices? All right, I'm going to answer for you. The voices. All right. So you want to get rid of the voices, maybe take the medication. You don't need to tell anybody. I mean, your parents should know and that's fine. You don't have to tell your classmates or anything.

18:53🔗 Drew And you may not have to take medicine, but the people are taking care of you do need to have an opportunity to at least make a decision about, at least offer you potential treatment.

19:01🔗 Adam Drew, what percentage of teenagers are on some medication these years?

19:05🔗 Drew Don't know the number of that, but it's a big number.

19:07🔗 Third Eye Blind There's a lot of them, and you're totally not alone. And if you look at people in your class, I guarantee you some of them are on medication.

19:13🔗 Adam Yes. God knows the cocktail you would have been on when you were in high school.

19:16🔗 Drew Oh, the humanity.

19:18🔗 Adam Yeah. I mean, really, would have had to carry those pills around in a hefty bag every day, just dragging them like Santa from class to class.

19:24🔗 Drew I think what an athlete I would have been carrying that bag.

19:26🔗 Adam Taylor? Taylor? Oh, yeah. Yeah, there you go. You're 16. What's up?

19:34🔗 Caller Well, I went to my friend's party maybe three months ago, and there was a whole bunch of my friend's friends. I met one and we hooked up that night and we just hung out, and then there was this other guy there that seemed to like me, and then I saw him at another party maybe two weeks ago, and I didn't want to do anything with him because I don't know, but I was at my friend's house like four nights ago, and he came and my friend told him to pick me up and I didn't know about it, so then he came and I went and...

20:14🔗 Third Eye Blind Here comes, where's the punchline?

20:15🔗 Adam Here's my fear for this caller. I think we're going to head into the future with this, and then a week from now, here's what happened.

20:23🔗 Caller No, this is just other night and so, he went to a dead end and he forced me to do stuff with him and I did. I just don't want to talk to my friends about it because...

20:32🔗 Adam He went to a dead end, you mean in the street?

20:34🔗 Drew Yeah. Why don't you talk to the police about it?

20:38🔗 Caller Because I don't want to give him trouble, I mean...

20:41🔗 Adam Why not?

20:42🔗 Third Eye Blind What did he force you to do?

20:44🔗 Caller I gave him head and... Nothing really to... Not a big deal, but nothing.

20:50🔗 Drew Why don't you want to be in trouble?

20:51🔗 Adam Man, that was such a big deal when I was in high school. I can't believe it's nothing now. Jesus Christ. How old is he? Eighteen. And by the way, you know it's funny, when you're in a bad neighborhood, it's a dead end, but when you're in a good neighborhood, it's a cul-de-sac. I was just thinking about that the other day. Rich people live on cul-de-sacs and it's good. It's like, yeah, I live on a cul-de-sac, nice.

21:12🔗 Third Eye Blind If you're from the hood, it's a dead end.

21:14🔗 Adam You live on a dead end, it's like, oh brother, you gotta get out of there.

21:18🔗 Third Eye Blind This seems like a really, really perfect opportunity to want to get him into trouble.

21:22🔗 Drew Oh yeah.

21:23🔗 Caller No, but then, he's everybody's friend and I would be like, you know.

21:26🔗 Drew Oh, come on, this guy's an a-hole. He's a bad guy.

21:31🔗 Third Eye Blind So this guy drove to a dead end, pulled over and forced you to go down on him, right?

21:37🔗 Caller A hundred times. No, no, I'm not comfortable.

21:41🔗 Drew He is a world-class dick.

21:43🔗 Adam Thank you, Drew.

21:44🔗 Drew All right.

21:44🔗 Adam And how long ago did this happen? I'm a little confused now. This is March of 47. When is this?

21:50🔗 Caller About four nights ago. Was it Wednesday or Thursday?

21:53🔗 Drew It would be sort of hard to prove anything since there's no evidence, I suspect.

21:57🔗 Adam No, but, you know, here's the important thing, mainly. A guy like this is going to continue this. As a matter of fact, I'm sure that wasn't his first time. Of course not.

22:06🔗 Third Eye Blind He's got a technique down. I mean, he came up with a dead end.

22:10🔗 Adam Yes, he's probably driven to that dead end many a time with many a 16 year old girl who had a little self-esteem problem. He's 18. He's gotten away with it. You need to get this on the guy's record so that the next time he does it, it gets reported there. There's some precedent. You know what I mean?

22:28🔗 Third Eye Blind You also have to see this is that it's not this is not your problem. This is now his problem.

22:32🔗 Drew It's her problem that she's such a good victim and that concerns me about her. But this is about him being a bad guy.

22:38🔗 Third Eye Blind I guess what I mean, what I mean, Drew, by saying problem is that is that nothing wrong with her. There's not something wrong with you. And this isn't some mark of shame for you. And as soon as you as soon as you get over that, you shouldn't ask for it. You're getting pissed off. There's no nobody ever asked for it. There's no such thing as asking for it.

22:55🔗 Adam No, although I'd like it.

22:57🔗 Drew Why don't we hear it?

22:58🔗 Third Eye Blind Except for Adam.

22:59🔗 Drew Yeah, Adam's begging for it. Calling all men.

23:01🔗 Adam All right, we will take ourselves a little break. Stephen Jenkins, what?

23:05🔗 Drew When do we get back?

23:07🔗 Third Eye Blind Speaking of sexual assault.

23:08🔗 Adam Here's something off the new Third Eye Blind CD after this.

23:16🔗 Caller We'll be right back with more.

23:18🔗 Third Eye Blind Loveline.

23:48🔗 Yep, it is Loveline.

23:49🔗 Adam We're back with Stephan Jenkins from Third Eye Blind. He was nice enough to stop in, little surprise guest tonight. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew. Drew?

24:01🔗 Drew Yeah.

24:01🔗 Adam We just ran in to watch a little bit of The Man Show premiere tonight, and Paulina saw two rhinoceroses making out.

24:10🔗 Drew Okay.

24:11🔗 Caller Unacceptable.

24:12🔗 Is that all right?

24:14🔗 Adam It was just bad timing, it really was.

24:16🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah, I've never seen you blush before, Adam.

24:18🔗 Adam She looked up.

24:19🔗 Third Eye Blind They're conflicted.

24:21🔗 Adam I thought, maybe I'd throw a trash can at her, knock her down, and then dive on her or something, but then I thought that would probably send more trauma through the youngster than the actual vision of the rhinos.

24:35🔗 Drew What you produce for the media does to the people of this country.

24:38🔗 Adam I know, but really our viewership is made up of responsible parents that keep an eye on their children, especially in the late night hours, and don't run wild and let their youngsters run around the studio. No.

24:53🔗 Third Eye Blind It's not important.

24:54🔗 Adam It's all good. Paulina, say hi, though.

24:57🔗 Drew Hi.

24:57🔗 Adam There you go. Now, were you guys on a little field trip today, Drew?

25:02🔗 Drew Yeah. Because of the Winnie Roast, we were down in Laguna and we came back. It's Father's Day.

25:06🔗 Adam Oh, yeah.

25:07🔗 Drew You didn't read anything about that, see?

25:09🔗 Adam Listen, I sent my dad to Philadelphia, so. You did? I did, yeah.

25:13🔗 Drew You visited his family?

25:14🔗 Adam Yeah.

25:15🔗 Drew His no-count family?

25:16🔗 Adam Yeah. He's no-count, too. My dad's great. Now that I got money, he's like, hey, you want to give me a Father's Day gift this year? I'm like, yeah. What do you want? A shoe shine or a tie? How about paying for my Philadelphia trip? I'm like, how much is that? 1800 bucks. Oh my God. Okay. But that's it, right? I mean, nothing next year, right? All right. So he's back in Philly with his relatives. I was doing Man Show today anyway, so I wasn't around. But it's always good to see Paulina in the studio. She's so fetching. She really is. In a delight. Yes.

25:52🔗 Third Eye Blind She also gives you another opportunity to plug the Man Show.

25:55🔗 Adam That's right.

25:55🔗 Third Eye Blind This is great.

25:56🔗 Drew Which episode is it?

25:58🔗 Adam It's the Going to Wrestling School.

26:01🔗 Drew Jimmy actually was wounded. Speaking of wounded.

26:03🔗 Adam Yeah. He was hurt. Oh, good transition. That's right. Third Eye Blind, the CD is blue and this is a song.

26:10🔗 Drew This is about sexual assault and not about wrestling school.

26:15🔗 Adam No. But it's still called wounded.

26:17🔗 Third Eye Blind But we've got some good wrestling school jams somewhere around here.

26:20🔗 Adam All right. We'll weave that into the next hour. Here we go. Wounded. That is Wounded Off of Blue from Third Eye Blind. A real good song. Yeah, we just enjoyed all of that. Thank you. Yeah, it's very nice.

31:15🔗 All right.

31:17🔗 Adam Let's hop back.

31:17🔗 Drew Did you play that? I'm sorry.

31:19🔗 Third Eye Blind No, we didn't play it yesterday. I didn't remember hearing that. No, we just went with more crushing songs. It was 45,000 people and we just went out there to hit hard.

31:32🔗 Adam You got to change your setup a little bit if you're playing a 45 as opposed to 450 in some kind of theater or something, right?

31:41🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah. I hope someday. I'd love to play Wounded in a stadium sometime, but I think it's better to play Jumper and ten days late, maybe we'll play that one later.

31:53🔗 Adam If you're going to do it in a stadium, do you have to then bring out like an orchestra or other instruments? I mean, if you're going to try to fill up or do something that's more involved in front of a large group.

32:07🔗 Third Eye Blind No, I don't think that really transfers. I mean, if you ever listen to really a lot of great rock bands, it's pretty simple. It's pretty amazing how much space you can fill up with like Led Zeppelin. It was always just those guys.

32:20🔗 Adam Yeah, it's true.

32:21🔗 Third Eye Blind Just get to work.

32:22🔗 Drew I was thinking as we watched those bands, whatever happened to all those horns? Real Big Fish, World Crown Review, Crown Review, and Boston's even.

32:32🔗 Adam Well, I saw Boston's video on TV, I think two nights ago or something like that. But yeah, all that sort of ska stuff is falling a little bit by the wayside.

32:44🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, we're in the new metal age right now. This is kind of what's going on.

32:47🔗 Adam I know, although no doubt was there yesterday. They had horns.

32:51🔗 Third Eye Blind And Gwen once again proved herself as the best frontman in rock and roll.

32:56🔗 Adam Jonathan?

32:57🔗 Caller Yes.

32:57🔗 Adam You're 17?

32:58🔗 Caller Yes indeed I am.

32:59🔗 Adam What's up?

33:00🔗 Caller OK, my problem is when I recently started putting my fingers inside of my girlfriend's vagina.

33:08🔗 Adam While they're still attached to your hand?

33:10🔗 Caller Yeah, while they're still attached to my hand. And the last time I did it, I got this really weird flesh-colored jelly type thing on my finger.

33:17🔗 Adam All right, we're going to put him on hole because he has a horrible sound.

33:20🔗 Drew And tell him that that's normal.

33:22🔗 Adam The flesh-colored jelly?

33:23🔗 Drew Yes.

33:23🔗 Adam Yeah, what is that? That's her soul, right?

33:25🔗 Drew That's her soul, pieces of it.

33:27🔗 Adam It's all right.

33:28🔗 Drew It's normal.

33:29🔗 Adam Let me tell you, I'm 36, I haven't figured out what's going on with that vagina.

33:33🔗 Drew You never will.

33:33🔗 Adam There's all kinds of stuff going on. It's a Rubik's Cube. I've learned not to try anymore. Just keep looking. I'm just going to try to respect it. I hope the vagina respects my penis. We're going to be like the... Let me tell you something. I watched these Discovery Channel shows. They got the water hole there, there's the alligator, there's the lion, there's a rhino, there's the elephant. They all figured out somehow. I mean, they could all eat each other, but they don't want to all eat each other. That's the relationship I want with the vagina and the penis. It's a sort of mutual respect state.

34:10🔗 Drew A position in the ecological system.

34:12🔗 Adam Right, if the vagina gets to the watering hole first, then the penis has to wait till it's done before it moves in and vice versa. Right, it's a sort of Serengeti Darwinism.

34:23🔗 Third Eye Blind If it happens to have a little gel attached to it, we'll just go with it.

34:26🔗 Adam That's right. Who knows what goes on in the old vagina, the old vagina, the old vagina. Yeah, it's a song I wrote.

34:35🔗 Drew That's his life's work.

34:35🔗 Adam Yeah, that's my life's work. Let me think about it. That's my Inna-Gotta-DeVita there. Jen?

34:41🔗 Caller Yeah?

34:41🔗 Adam You're 17.

34:42🔗 Caller Yeah.

34:43🔗 Adam What's up?

34:43🔗 Caller Well, a couple years ago, my dad had an affair, and recently he's been talking about going to see this woman again and trying to rekindle a friendship or something like that.

34:55🔗 Adam Who's he been talking to?

34:56🔗 Caller Huh?

34:56🔗 Adam Who has he been talking to about this?

34:59🔗 Caller He told my mom, actually, that he wanted to go see this person again.

35:02🔗 Drew Did your mom talk to you about it?

35:05🔗 Caller Yeah, actually.

35:06🔗 Drew Well, that's kind of weird, yeah, why?

35:08🔗 Caller My mom talked to me about it, I guess, because, like...

35:11🔗 Adam She wants you to hate men, too, when you grow up?

35:13🔗 Drew She has no one else to talk to. She should not be talking.

35:15🔗 Caller Yeah, she doesn't really have anybody else to talk to because she doesn't, like, have a lot of friends.

35:18🔗 Drew Why not? Why doesn't she have friends?

35:20🔗 Adam Oh, boy.

35:21🔗 Drew It's not good for you for her to make you buddy or parent, her parent.

35:25🔗 Adam No.

35:25🔗 Drew Not good.

35:26🔗 Caller I know, but, like, I'm having a lot of trouble trusting him because he's actually tried to rekindle the friendship before and just kind of wound up, like, having...

35:34🔗 Third Eye Blind This is more than you can deal with. That's really the issue here. And you shouldn't feel like you should even try.

35:41🔗 Drew That's right. It's not your responsibility. But certainly it is outlandish of your dad to want to do this, someone with whom... His wife, I mean, your mom must be terribly threatened and feel awful and certainly is disrespectful to her.

35:55🔗 Adam This guy's got way vows the size of Montana if he gets popped once and then is going to swing by Aunt Betty's place again six months later. Just bring her name up is trouble.

36:07🔗 Third Eye Blind Does your dad own a car dealership?

36:09🔗 Drew What?

36:10🔗 Third Eye Blind Does he own a car dealership?

36:11🔗 Caller No, actually he's a trucker.

36:13🔗 Adam Well, there are wheels on the road anyway, you slice it. All right. Jen, here's your job. Do not get tangled up in this. Do not distrust or hate all men because of it. I know it's going to be hard.

36:28🔗 Drew Focus on taking care of yourself.

36:30🔗 Adam Do good in school and move out and go far away to college.

36:32🔗 Drew Take care of yourself, not everyone else. Your needs come first. Think about it. Identify them and make sure they're taken care of.

36:40🔗 Adam There's nothing freakier than when your folks loses it in front of you when you're young.

36:45🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, just when you find out, which Jen's just done here, but in some degree everybody does, they find out who their parents are. Once you find out that they're not God, except for, of course, Drew. It's always an unnerving and freaky experience.

37:04🔗 Adam It really is.

37:06🔗 Third Eye Blind You don't get the choice. This is just a random, you're stuck with these people.

37:11🔗 Drew It should happen around 24, though, not 17.

37:14🔗 Adam Yeah, it really, you should be coming home from college or your girlfriend's house or your place, have the folks have a little meltdown and then you have a beer with dad and then get back in the car and head home.

37:28🔗 Third Eye Blind I wish that there was this one thing that if I could tell people, it's that everybody's family is weird. It's always freaky. If you get four of them together, call somebody mommy and daddy, sister and brother, you have yourself a tragedy and a horror movie right there every single time. So you're not alone. It's always strange and bizarre for everybody. It's always just strange and bizarre in slightly different ways.

37:53🔗 Adam Right. And everyone is humiliated by their own family. It's just a matter of degree. It really is. They all have their beefs. Even even Dr. Drew, who comes across as squeaky clean. I know he has his issues with his folks.

38:05🔗 Third Eye Blind He's addicted to rock and roll. He's out there. He's been on tour with me lately.

38:09🔗 Adam Well, he was born to rock and he was forced early. Another family issue by his father.

38:14🔗 Third Eye Blind He's got a strap on ponytail. It's just it's amazing. I said, Drew, you know, you don't need that anymore. He's like, it's my thing, man.

38:21🔗 Adam Gives him his balance out there. So he finds his chi. He's out on stage.

38:26🔗 Third Eye Blind I have his dress left.

38:27🔗 Adam We're going to take ourselves a little break. We have Stephan here from Third Eye Blind. And when we come back, we'll talk to Rachel as a rash all over body since getting raped at the prom. We'll tell her what to do about that after this.

38:42🔗 Third Eye Blind Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. Back in a minute.

38:45🔗 Adam Well, it's worth hearing. It's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Stephan is here from Third Eye Blind. We'll hear something off of their CD Blue. And I want to tell you guys that they'll be going out on tour with Vertical Horizon. It was another good band who was in here a couple months back.

39:35🔗 Third Eye Blind The Red Summer Sun Tour.

39:36🔗 Adam So look for them coming to a town near you. We'll hear something else off of the CD soon. But first we'll talk to Rachel, who's 18. Rachel.

39:44🔗 Third Eye Blind Hi.

39:45🔗 Adam Hey. So what happened?

39:49🔗 Third Eye Blind I was dating this guy for like three years. And I thought we both decided to like wait till we were married to have sex. And then we went to my senior prom, and apparently he didn't want to wait anymore.

40:02🔗 Drew Did he actually rape you or did he just sort of coerce you?

40:05🔗 Third Eye Blind He raped me.

40:06🔗 Drew Not that there's a big difference, but.

40:08🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, yeah. Like, I don't know. Like part of me thinks that it's like, you know, partially my fault, but I know better than that.

40:14🔗 Adam Did you break up with him?

40:17🔗 Third Eye Blind Not yet.

40:17🔗 Drew Did you report him?

40:19🔗 Third Eye Blind No.

40:19🔗 Drew Did you say no during this experience?

40:22🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

40:22🔗 Drew Okay.

40:23🔗 Adam How long ago did this happen?

40:25🔗 Third Eye Blind A month ago.

40:26🔗 Adam I see. And you haven't broken up with him yet?

40:31🔗 Third Eye Blind He was so apologetic afterwards. I don't know. It's just really hard.

40:35🔗 Adam So you guys have been sort of carrying on in your relationship?

40:39🔗 Drew That's a new rap. Rape someone then apologize profusely.

40:43🔗 Adam Yeah.

40:43🔗 Drew Isn't that interesting?

40:45🔗 Adam So. Yeah.

40:46🔗 Third Eye Blind He knew how upset I was. So I mean, I think he just got carried away.

40:50🔗 Adam All right. And what rash do you have?

40:54🔗 Third Eye Blind I have this rash all over my torso. I don't know if it's related to that.

40:59🔗 Adam Well, he was a virgin too, right?

41:02🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, I don't know if I can trust him anymore.

41:06🔗 Third Eye Blind If a guy says he's a virgin, he's a virgin.

41:09🔗 Adam Yeah. If a guy says he's not a virgin, then he may be a virgin.

41:15🔗 Drew How old is he?

41:16🔗 Third Eye Blind He's 19.

41:17🔗 Drew I'm not sure. He's 29 or something.

41:19🔗 Adam There's a rash all over your torso.

41:21🔗 Drew Have you been, as part of this sort of upset you're experiencing, have you been scratching yourself and that kind of thing?

41:27🔗 Third Eye Blind No, I haven't been scratching.

41:28🔗 Drew Is this an allergic, is it an itchy rash?

41:31🔗 Third Eye Blind It itches, but I don't scratch it because I just don't want to make it worse.

41:36🔗 Drew New medications or anything like that for you lately?

41:37🔗 Third Eye Blind I've been using cortisol on it.

41:40🔗 Drew Before the rash development.

41:41🔗 Third Eye Blind Oh no, I'm not on any meds.

41:43🔗 Drew Okay, well, just for your education, although this doesn't sound like what you're dealing with, the STD that should be of concern to you if you get a body rash, a particular one that involves your palms, would be syphilis. And it will come a few weeks after the shanker heals. There's a shanker ulcer that's usually painless at the site where the contact occurs and then a few weeks later this rash develops.

42:03🔗 Adam On your palms?

42:04🔗 Drew It usually includes the palms.

42:06🔗 Adam Oh my God, I have to learn to masturbate with my foot. I think I could do it.

42:10🔗 Drew Why?

42:11🔗 Adam Because I get a rash on my palm?

42:13🔗 Drew No, no, you get, no matter where you get the syphilis, the rash appears all over your body, including your palms.

42:18🔗 Adam I'm still saying I'd have to learn to masturbate with my foot.

42:21🔗 Drew You can't give yourself syphilis back to yourself, you see.

42:25🔗 Adam Yoga comes in handy here. Yeah, but it just seems like having it on my palm.

42:29🔗 Drew Yeah, you worry about your palms.

42:30🔗 Adam I'll put an oven mitt on and go at it.

42:31🔗 Drew I understand that anything that involves the hand is of great concern to you.

42:34🔗 Adam Oh yes. These are my tools.

42:36🔗 Third Eye Blind Rachel, you don't have a rash on your palms though. You have one on your torso.

42:40🔗 Drew And that's what you're worried about. I don't think this has anything to do with that, except that maybe just the anxiety and whatnot that's come from it.

42:45🔗 Third Eye Blind Okay.

42:46🔗 Adam Rachel, you sound pretty upset about this.

42:49🔗 Third Eye Blind Have you talked to anybody else about it? Do you have a doctor you can talk to?

42:52🔗 Third Eye Blind I live in a small town, so I'm really scared to talk to anybody about it.

42:58🔗 Adam And how is it you can be this upset a month later and not break up with the guy? I mean, what do you do?

43:05🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, I just kind of keep my distance from him.

43:07🔗 Drew Why do you feel not this sort of not worthwhile?

43:12🔗 Third Eye Blind What do you mean?

43:12🔗 Drew That you accept this kind of treatment from somebody and still hang in.

43:17🔗 Third Eye Blind I mean, he broke up before once because we were just having problems and he went crazy kind of about it and I'm kind of scared too.

43:27🔗 Third Eye Blind Has he ever hit you?

43:29🔗 Third Eye Blind No.

43:30🔗 Third Eye Blind Did he bruise you? Did he bruise your arms or any other part of your body when he raped you?

43:36🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah, my wrist.

43:37🔗 Third Eye Blind Your wrist? He held your wrist down? You need to protect yourself from this guy and what he did was really wrong and what you did was not wrong. And you need to find somebody in your town who you trust, who you can talk to about it.

43:53🔗 Third Eye Blind It's just that I don't trust anybody not to mention it to somebody else.

43:56🔗 Drew Well, if you tell a medical caretaker they have a responsibility, it's illegal for them to tell anybody else.

44:02🔗 Third Eye Blind Do you have a doctor, Rachel?

44:04🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

44:05🔗 Drew All right, that's whom you should start with.

44:06🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah, you should go see your doctor and the doctor will assure you about your rash and talk to you about it.

44:12🔗 Adam Oh boy. Yeah, there's something going on here.

44:15🔗 Drew Oh yeah.

44:16🔗 Adam I mean Rachel is upset because she's a victim of rape and I don't blame her but there's a lot more going on.

44:22🔗 Drew She should give you that special feeling.

44:23🔗 Third Eye Blind You know guys out there, this is Stephan Jenkins talking, let me just give you a piece of advice. Don't rape chicks. Just don't set yourself on fire with gasoline. These are just sort of absolute truths. And don't rape anybody. It never works out. Everybody ends up upset. It's just a bad idea.

44:44🔗 Adam And look at it this way. Here, let me do some rape math for you guys. You have two choices in victims. You have one choice in a victim who you rape and then reports you to the police immediately and you get arrested, which is not a great scenario for you. And then there's the other victim, which you rape, who just turns in on herself, like Rachel, doesn't talk to anybody. You never get in any trouble except where you have to live with sort of screwing up someone even more who's already been screwed with in the past. Meaning maybe this person's uncle got to them when they were five and now you get to get to them. So you get to sleep with that every night.

45:25🔗 Third Eye Blind So much of this is so related to high school and the reason why is because everybody goes around high school thinking that everybody else is getting it. And I know this, they're not. Nobody else is getting any either.

45:39🔗 Adam Now there's one guy who gets it all.

45:40🔗 Third Eye Blind Except for Drew who's just the king in high school.

45:42🔗 Drew It's a good thing that they're not.

45:43🔗 Adam Oh he's very passionate, still is. Sharon?

45:47🔗 Yes?

45:47🔗 Adam You're 18.

45:48🔗 Caller Hey Adam, I just want to say happy belated birthday.

45:52🔗 Adam Oh thank you.

45:52🔗 Caller I kind of forgot but.

45:54🔗 Adam Yeah so did Drew. And by the way, Jimmy Kimmel, my other male lover beside you Drew, got me the hot shaving cream lather dispenser.

46:02🔗 Drew Now what am I going to get you? Oh how dare you.

46:05🔗 Adam You were not going to give me that anyway.

46:07🔗 Drew I've got something for you.

46:08🔗 Adam I hope it's out in the car.

46:09🔗 Drew No no it's good. I'm going to order one for myself too.

46:11🔗 Third Eye Blind Well I got Adam, I didn't forget I got him this pippy long stocking commemorative garlic press. You told me it comes in headed with Caesar Salads.

46:20🔗 Drew This is going to go with your lovey shades and everything else.

46:22🔗 Adam I had two. You know it was funny. Oh hold on a second Sharon. We wrapped up the Man Show today and my manager got me one of these really cool DVD, these mini portable DVD players.

46:34🔗 Drew Another one?

46:35🔗 Adam Well that was the point. The producers last year got me a DVD player, mini portable DVD player for the rap show. I mean for the when we rap the show. So he handed it to me. I know this is like a $1000 item. It's a very expensive, nice item. He handed it to me and he went, you know he was beaming with pride. He said, look what I got you. I hope you can use it. And immediately went through my head which is, the producers got me one last year, but what do I do? So he goes, you can use it, can't you? I'm like, oh, hey, this is great. You know, this is beautiful. And he's like, yeah, it's very nice. I was like, yeah, oh, yeah, I'm going to use this baby when I travel, use it on the plane. And then there's a pause and he goes, you don't have one already, do you? And I'm like, oh, well, let me think. I may have one lying around.

47:21🔗 I'm not sure. And then like an idiot, I go, well, I got one, but it's small.

47:27🔗 Adam The screen, whereas yours is a four and a half inch screen, this one's only like four and a quarter, four and three eighths to one I got. It's no good. So I'm like, okay, I'm not, Howard, this is great. This is great, I love it.

47:38🔗 You can give it to me.

47:39🔗 Adam All right, so here's, so here's, now the knife gets twisted because we go up, we finish the shows, I go up to the office, I put my feet on the desk, I had a big pile of junk that people have given me, little flasks and lighters and stuff, the man show, little presents and stuff. I pile them all up on top of each other, I start heading out to the car to come to Loveline. I realize as I get down the stairs and halfway to the car with this pile of junk that I've left the DVD player on my desk. I stop for a minute and I think, ah, screw it, I'm going in the office tomorrow, I'll pick it up tomorrow, no big deal. Run into Howard in the parking lot, he sees me carrying the pile of junk.

48:17🔗 Where's the DVD player? Oh, it's too valuable to transport. It's up on the desk.

48:25🔗 Drew I have to carry it by itself in both hands.

48:27🔗 Adam Yeah.

48:28🔗 Caller Did you ever come clean?

48:29🔗 Adam Yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I came clean to him. So I don't know what to say.

48:35🔗 I got two DVD players.

48:36🔗 Adam You know what I told him? I said, listen, I got that second house now. I'll put the DVD player in the second house. That'll be fantastic.

48:42🔗 Third Eye Blind You got a car now and a DVD player. You got a manager. You're really coming up in the world.

48:46🔗 Adam I know. I know. I'm so fat right now.

48:49🔗 Drew Sharon's got a question for Steve.

48:51🔗 Adam Oh, now we got to take a break.

48:52🔗 Drew And we have to take a break.

48:53🔗 Adam All right, but listen, and Steven is only staying for the first hour. Here's what we're going to do. Steven's going to stay past the commercial. He's going to answer Sharon's question, and then he's going to leave.

49:01🔗 Drew All right.

49:01🔗 Adam All right.

49:02🔗 Drew Is that okay with Steve?

49:03🔗 Third Eye Blind In that order.

49:04🔗 Adam All right. We'll be back.

49:08🔗 Caller Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

49:51🔗 Adam Yep, we're back.

49:53🔗 All right.

49:54🔗 Adam Stephan is here from Third Eye Blind. Blue is the name of the CD. We'll hear another song off that. Stephan was nice enough to come in here tonight on a very short notice.

50:04🔗 Third Eye Blind Just because I like it, just because I like your show, and I like you guys, and I had nothing to do tonight. I just want to be real with you.

50:14🔗 Drew This is great. Reality had to come through.

50:16🔗 Adam It's great. Now, compliments always sort of trail off. They'd always be best if you just nipped them.

50:21🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, let's just keep being real. But actually, now I got a call here and I'm going to meet some friends here at 1130.

50:28🔗 Adam That's right. Sharon? Uh-oh.

50:33🔗 Third Eye Blind Hello, Sharon.

50:34🔗 Caller Hi. Oh my God. I can't believe I'm talking to Stephan Jenkins. All right.

50:38🔗 Third Eye Blind Here we are.

50:39🔗 Caller I just wanted to ask you how blue this CD is different from your last CD, because I've noticed the songs that have been released recently have had a different sound than some of the other ones I've listened to. So what brought on that whole influence in this CD?

50:57🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, I think the best answer that I can give to you, Sharon, is that we already made the first CD and I didn't have any interest in making it again. I think a lot of bands sort of make a career out of trying to repeat themselves. And I think we just be really, really bored. So we're trying to do different things.

51:18🔗 Caller I think the next record we'll make is going to be something different again. So it's the idea of trying to keep finding out what Third Eye Blind is and staying excited about what you do.

51:32🔗 Third Eye Blind And I think, actually, from song to song on our albums, they're not very repetitive as well. So it really just comes down to the idea that we work based on the idea of things that are exciting to us. And we don't want to become a karaoke band.

51:45🔗 Caller Yeah, that's true.

51:46🔗 Third Eye Blind So.

51:47🔗 Caller Because I saw you guys about two years ago. It was like the best show I've ever been to. And I actually got to meet, I don't want to forget his name, Orion, Orion and Brad.

51:58🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, Orion and Brad are pretty beautiful individuals and I feel really lucky to be in a band with them.

52:04🔗 Adam Where did you see the show Sharon?

52:05🔗 Caller In Fresno.

52:07🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, Fresno rocks. You can't front on Fresno.

52:11🔗 Caller I don't know about that.

52:12🔗 Third Eye Blind You can get farming equipment and you can totally throw down at a rock show in Fresno.

52:17🔗 Caller Adam, we wanted to know, like my friend Laurie, we do a radio show at our school, Fresno State, and we were just curious if you guys ever come down this way to like do some kind of talk.

52:27🔗 Third Eye Blind Sure, Adam, we'd be glad to come down there. What are you doing tomorrow, Adam?

52:30🔗 Adam I'm going to be on the next biplane to Fresno. I'll be there tomorrow morning. You guys do a morning show?

52:36🔗 Caller Yeah.

52:37🔗 Adam I'll bring my cowbell.

52:39🔗 Third Eye Blind Just got some Krispy Kremes waiting for him and it's all good.

52:41🔗 Adam Hey Sharon, I would do it if I was in Fresno. I'll do a phone or with you.

52:47🔗 Caller Oh, that would be cool because we actually try to do your little lightning round. We try to do a remake of that.

52:53🔗 Adam Oh kids, don't do that.

52:55🔗 Drew You might hurt yourself.

52:56🔗 Adam All right, listen Sharon, I'll put you on hold. And we'll, I don't know, tell you.

53:02🔗 Drew See, Adam, here's the deal. Adam is going on vacation. He just finished the man show. He's all about charity now. All of a sudden he's got time on his hands.

53:09🔗 Adam That's right.

53:10🔗 Caller Giving, loving Adam.

53:12🔗 Adam What's that?

53:13🔗 Caller I'm your number one fan. You don't even, you don't even know.

53:15🔗 Adam Well, thank you. You're right. I don't know.

53:17🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, sir, thanks a lot for the props.

53:20🔗 Adam We do appreciate it.

53:21🔗 Drew I was interviewing with somebody yesterday at that event. I was sort of thinking to myself and to them how many nice people there are in that. I know there's sort of an angry vibe in there too. Yeah. A lot of nice folks in your business right now.

53:35🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah. I mean, I think that this is something that people overlook because you always see about what gets printed in the media and what sells copy, I suppose, is all the static. The fact is that we had our friends in so many bands out there.

53:52🔗 Caller There's a real camaraderie.

53:53🔗 Drew I mean, the guys, just the afternoon line-up, Lit, STP, you guys.

53:58🔗 Third Eye Blind I've got friends in all those bands.

53:59🔗 Drew Cypress Hill. I mean, these are really great. By nice, I mean great people. Yeah.

54:04🔗 Third Eye Blind We were all sending shouts out to each other on stage.

54:08🔗 Drew I mean, it was just one after another. And that's not been that way in this. I've been around this radio business for a long time. And every time I could say-

54:15🔗 Third Eye Blind And you know what else is that we were all standing out watching each other play. I look to the left, and there's Fred. There's Durst watching our show, singing the words, and then come back and get together. And we're all on stage watching, no doubt.

54:29🔗 Drew No doubt.

54:30🔗 Third Eye Blind Everybody's there for Cypress Hill. Yeah, Moby. I mean, there really is that feeling going on. And what's really interesting is, you know, Moby and Third Eye Blind and Cypress and Korn have nothing to do with each other musically at all, except that we probably all have stolen something from hip-hop. Other than that, it's so divergent, but there's something beautiful about making music. There's a struggle to it and everybody sort of connects on that. And that is going on right now. I think that's a really healthy thing.

55:03🔗 Adam Yeah. The only A-holes are Black Grape. And I think they broke up some years ago.

55:07🔗 Drew You know what's very funny? When I was doing this interview, I was talking about these bands, how much I enjoy meeting these people. And I said, yeah, I remember the time when Black Grape was around, Blur. And I would have been like...

55:19🔗 Third Eye Blind Well, the British bands, except for, I mean, a lot of those guys have this sort of public school attitude of sort of one upmanship and we don't have that.

55:28🔗 Adam Well, they take on a sort of persona, which is we're in a band, so we got to be sort of antisocial or pants in the ass. Yeah. And it's just, boy, it's like talking to these people is like pulling god damn teeth.

55:39🔗 Drew All right.

55:39🔗 Adam Speaking of pulling teeth, I got to go.

55:42🔗 Third Eye Blind Thanks for having me on your radio show.

55:45🔗 Adam Well, you're our new go-to fill-in host, by the way.

55:48🔗 Third Eye Blind Right. Okay.

55:49🔗 Adam So if I turn an ankle.

55:51🔗 Drew Speaking of go-to, I'm going to be in here. Well, after two weeks, I'll tell you the story.

55:54🔗 Adam All right. Stephan Jenkins, thank you very much. Third Eye Blind, everyone. You can listen on the ride to wherever you're going, Stephan, we'll play the song off of- Oh, I will. Oh, don't worry. We're going to play. All right. Drew, did you want to say something?

56:09🔗 Drew I ran into the producers of PI, and they want us to do something for the Democratic National Convention. Yeah.

56:16🔗 Adam When is that?

56:17🔗 Drew I don't know.

56:17🔗 Adam Yeah. They told me they wanted me to do it. They didn't say anything about we.

56:21🔗 Drew She came up to me and said something about-

56:23🔗 Adam I see. They're probably thinking you could get to me or something. All right. Well, I'm not looking to work anymore. That's it. I'm done. If I have to fake an injury and collect disability, whatever it's going to take, I ramped my 26-man show tonight, and I've been going for seven months, and that's it. I'm going to fly my model airplanes. I'm going to sleep all day. I'm going to put on about 65-pounds and start living like a recluse. I'm going to be like Brando.

56:52🔗 Drew You're going to wear Kleenex boxes on your feet.

56:54🔗 Adam Kleenex boxes on the feet. I'm going to start storing my own urine and some sort of big vat.

56:59🔗 Drew Rolling up your stool and little balls and flying it up.

57:02🔗 Adam That's right. Right.

57:03🔗 Drew I had a patient do that once.

57:05🔗 Adam Roll up his stool and little balls.

57:06🔗 Drew Yeah, he left it there. The nurses have those little wall roos, those little things that pull out of the wall. They line it all up from there to there.

57:12🔗 Adam Very nice. Yes, makes a nice snowman. You rolled those in coconuts. You got a hell of a after-dinner treat there, Drew. Carolyn?

57:22🔗 Caller Yeah.

57:23🔗 Adam You're 21.

57:24🔗 Caller Yes.

57:24🔗 Adam What's up?

57:25🔗 Caller Well, my dad is an alcoholic. And I was wondering, like, what are the odds of me becoming an alcoholic? Because I think I have a pretty good association with alcohol. But my mom is just convinced that I'm going to become some raging alcoholic.

57:39🔗 Drew That's 50-50. And I suspect you would already have a sense if you're using alcohol regularly, whether or not you had momentum with that.

57:47🔗 Adam But let me ask you this, Drew. 50-50 for the alcoholic gene.

57:50🔗 Drew Yes.

57:51🔗 Adam That doesn't still doesn't mean 50-50 alcoholic.

57:54🔗 Drew That's right.

57:54🔗 Adam It just means you may have the gene. You may never touch booze.

57:58🔗 Drew But she said she has a good relationship with alcohol.

58:00🔗 Caller I mean, I think I do.

58:02🔗 Drew Well, if you have consequence, if you have the family history and you have consequences that are significant in your life as a result of your relationship with alcohol and that relationship has some momentum to it, that's the disease. So if you've been at a DUI, if you had a relationship break up, you were screwed up in school, you were spending a lot of money or some consequence.

58:23🔗 Third Eye Blind Okay. No. See, it's nothing like that.

58:24🔗 Caller I mean, I know not to drink like when I'm unhappy or sad.

58:27🔗 Drew Or blacking out.

58:28🔗 Caller I don't like my emotions.

58:29🔗 Drew Blacking out.

58:30🔗 Caller No. None of that.

58:31🔗 Adam All right.

58:32🔗 Drew You may not have it. You'll marry an alcoholic, though.

58:34🔗 Adam All right.

58:35🔗 Drew That's the pattern. You gotta be careful for that.

58:36🔗 Adam You gotta keep the gene pool alive. Jeff?

58:39🔗 Oh, yeah.

58:40🔗 Adam You're 21. What's up?

58:42🔗 Caller My dick's too big.

58:43🔗 Adam I see. How big is it?

58:45🔗 About 14 long and 3 1⁄2, 4 inches wide.

58:48🔗 Adam 14. That's it, huh?

58:50🔗 Caller I'm the big boy.

58:52🔗 Drew Show me that with your ruler hands.

58:53🔗 Adam No. Listen, Jeff. Jeff, if you're gonna lie, can't you go 9 1⁄2? Do you know what I mean? You got to go 14?

59:02🔗 Drew Just show me 14. Just so I can get a good laugh out of it.

59:04🔗 Adam Okay. I'm showing Drew. Because I'm an ex-carpenter and I know all sizes. This is between the fingers right there. That is 14 inches.

59:16🔗 Drew Yeah.

59:17🔗 Adam There's 12 inches in the foot, by the way. All right. So he wants to know how to shrink his penis. Now double it over.

59:25🔗 Drew There you go.

59:27🔗 Adam Yeah. See 14 is impossible. Hold on. I gotta talk to him. Jeff.

59:31🔗 Yeah.

59:32🔗 Adam Did you measure your penis?

59:33🔗 Actually, yes.

59:34🔗 Adam Yes. And it's 14. 14 even.

59:37🔗 Just under.

59:38🔗 Adam Just under 14. 13 and 7 8s. How do you do that? You use a one-foot ruler, you mark it off with a sharpie and then slide it up another two inches?

59:50🔗 Actually, it was a yardstick, but...

59:51🔗 Adam I see. Oh, God. The day I measure my penis with a yardstick. What a triumph that would be. Imagine having a ruler.

1:00:01🔗 Drew At this point, it would be sort of dwarfing, right? It would be a little bit of a problem.

1:00:06🔗 Adam As I've said many a time, my new official method for measuring my penis is, and listen closely, from the center of the anus to just beyond the tip. That is my standard.

1:00:19🔗 Drew You might make 14.

1:00:22🔗 Adam Even that's a little bit of a reach. Let's see, center of the anus, just beyond the tip. Still at 9.5. Still at 9.5. All right. I'll tell you what we're going to do because Stephen from Third Eye Blind was such a nice guy. Stopped by on such short notice and is always such a friend of the show. We're going to hear something from Third Eye Blind. Off of their new CD and here's the deal, everyone. We have certain bands that have been around for a while and are what we would consider friends of the show. Third Eye Blind is definitely one of those. And if you're a fan of the show, then you should be a fan of the band and buy the CD and support the guys.

1:01:03🔗 Drew We exist.

1:01:03🔗 Adam Did I do that math right?

1:01:05🔗 Drew Yeah, that's good.

1:01:06🔗 Adam This is called Ten Days Late. Yeah, it is Loveline. That is Ten Days Late, another good song off of Blue, from our friend's Third Eye Blind. All right. Drew?

1:04:21🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:04:21🔗 Adam Ready to hop back on the phones here?

1:04:22🔗 Drew I am indeed. Let's go.

1:04:24🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

1:04:25🔗 Adam What's up?

1:04:26🔗 Caller Hey, I have a question. I've been on the pill for about seven months now, and I just got back from a vacation, and I was in the sun a lot, and I noticed that my upper lip has a dark-

1:04:39🔗 Drew Brownish discoloration. Yeah. You get it around your cheeks, too. Sort of a mask along your cheek.

1:04:43🔗 Caller No, just on my upper lip.

1:04:45🔗 Drew But that's from the pill.

1:04:46🔗 Adam It is.

1:04:47🔗 Drew Yeah, that's one of the side effects.

1:04:48🔗 Adam And being in the sun?

1:04:49🔗 Drew Yeah, it's what makes it come out. Pregnancy will do the same thing. So the body basically thinks it's pregnant. That's what the pill basically does.

1:04:56🔗 Adam So what should you do?

1:04:57🔗 Drew Wear lots of sunscreen.

1:04:59🔗 Adam And what about for what she has already?

1:05:01🔗 Drew There are bleaching agents. You could talk to a dermatologist about it, but they are difficult things to control.

1:05:06🔗 Adam Miguel?

1:05:07🔗 Drew Incorrect.

1:05:07🔗 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:05:08🔗 Adam Year 15, what's up?

1:05:09🔗 Caller Yeah, like, I like to kill animals.

1:05:12🔗 Adam I see.

1:05:13🔗 Caller And like, they told me that it was pretty normal for my age.

1:05:16🔗 Drew Who told you that?

1:05:17🔗 Caller My friend.

1:05:17🔗 Adam Marlon Perkins.

1:05:18🔗 Drew Another 15-year-old?

1:05:20🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:05:20🔗 Drew No, we wouldn't. Killing animals is not a good thing.

1:05:23🔗 Adam Well, what kind of animals?

1:05:24🔗 Caller Like, I like to go hunting, like, for rabbits. And then, like, my uncle, he got rid of some dogs, and we saw them. They were, like, running around, and I just left them with the shotgun.

1:05:37🔗 Adam I see. What do you mean, he got rid of some dogs?

1:05:40🔗 Caller Yeah, he, like, he just, he didn't want them anymore. He threw them out in the field.

1:05:44🔗 Adam I see.

1:05:44🔗 Caller And, like, we saw them running around, so I'm like, well, hey, if it moves, it dies.

1:05:49🔗 Adam Yeah. If it moves, it dies.

1:05:51🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:05:52🔗 Adam Yeah, that's not a, that's not a bad creel. Yeah, I like that. You got a shotgun? Yeah. I got two of them. Oh, you got two of them?

1:06:00🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:06:01🔗 Adam And this is your, where's your dad?

1:06:04🔗 Caller My dad, he lives in Bakersfield.

1:06:07🔗 Drew Did he used to kick the crap out of you a little bit?

1:06:09🔗 Caller No.

1:06:10🔗 He never hit me.

1:06:11🔗 Adam No. He just hit you with the butt of the gun?

1:06:14🔗 Drew No.

1:06:14🔗 Caller I'm like, he gets me whatever I want.

1:06:17🔗 Adam I see. But you don't live with him, huh?

1:06:19🔗 Drew No.

1:06:19🔗 Adam I see. Well, you think, you got to, you know what you got to do with that shotgun? You got to shoot that goddamn smoke detector that keeps going off above you. That means that you need a new battery, Miguel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. You have any girlfriends, Miguel?

1:06:38🔗 Caller Yeah. I had a couple.

1:06:39🔗 Adam A couple? Here's the thing, Miguel. Chicks normally don't like guys who kill stuff.

1:06:45🔗 Caller I know.

1:06:45🔗 Adam I know. So it's probably best just to slow down a little on that. You know what I mean?

1:06:49🔗 Drew I'm trying to figure out what's making you so angry and rageful.

1:06:52🔗 Caller I want to be a Navy SEAL.

1:06:54🔗 Adam All right.

1:06:55🔗 Caller I'm like, well, I might as well start training.

1:06:58🔗 Drew No, not at 15. In fact, they'll teach you more about discipline and focusing some of that energy.

1:07:03🔗 Adam Well, listen, if you want to start training, why don't you go down to the beach and take a mask, fill it full of seawater, put it back on your head, and then do push-ups out on the sand, and put some combat boots on and run in place for a while.

1:07:19🔗 Drew And take some, maybe some swimming, some extreme sports activities you can get into, really physically trying. Out of 15, though, it's not a great idea at all.

1:07:28🔗 Adam I met this chick last night, sitting at the Fox Memorial in Santa Monica. Oh, talk about folks who like to drink a little. The Fox, of course, was the old piano player for The Man Show who passed away very tragically a few months ago. They had the big memorial. And they sung all the Fox's songs. And sucked up beer and, you know, Barnacle Bill the Sailor and all the other good shanties. And I ran into some chicken. She kept telling me, it was really weird, like she said, my brother, he's in town to visit. You know what he does? I said, no. He kills people for a living. I said, that's nice. Can I have my phone number back, by the way? No, I wasn't picking up on her. She said, he's a Navy Seal. I said, okay, well that's nice. And then she kept working it in to every conversation we had. It was like, he kills people. And then the guy showed up and is like, hey Kurt, this is Adam.

1:08:35🔗 He kills people for a living.

1:08:36🔗 Adam And I thought, honey, relax a little with that stuff. You know what drives me nuts too? When you meet people and they want you to ask them questions but they want to pretend like you didn't ask them to ask the question so they don't give you an answer. Like they'll go, hey, how are you doing?

1:08:53🔗 Caller Good.

1:08:55🔗 Adam What do you do? I do some TV. Want to know what I do? Yeah. Sales. Yeah. What do you sell? Little this, little that. It's like, all right, honey, what? Don't bring it up. Because, you know what? Here's the truth. I don't give a rat's ass what you do. But as long as you're going to bring it up and we're having a conversation and you say, sales, then I'm going to ask. And then your answer of a little bit of everything, that ain't an answer. Just don't bring it up, then. Don't bring it up. Don't anyone bring up anything they're not fully prepared to talk to. And by the way, if you think people are interested, they're not. Trust me, they're not. Especially when you start with sales. And listen, I don't care if you're selling office furniture, I don't care if you're selling cars, I don't care if you're selling copier toner. It's all sales to me and I could be, I just could be less interested. I just couldn't be, I should say. All right. Commercial. I was just getting fired up.

1:09:58🔗 Drew I know.

1:09:58🔗 Caller All right.

1:10:00🔗 Adam Is it true that that's all the Navy Seals do is kill people?

1:10:04🔗 Drew I imagine other things they do.

1:10:05🔗 Adam We'll take ourselves a little break and when we come back, we'll talk to you after this. It is Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. I'm just smelling my stinky Zorries, as we used to call them, my thong shoes. They don't warn you when you buy these new slip-on Nike sandals, neoprene sandals that they stink to high heaven.

1:11:11🔗 Drew Neoprene makes your feet stink.

1:11:13🔗 Adam Oh, dear Lord. I was soaking them in the shower in my dressing room today, and Daniel, the producer, came in and he said, throw those things out and buy new ones. I said, they smell worse when they're new. But he just kept, he's stuck with his angle. He was like, no, listen, I just sent my assistant out, got me some new ones. You should get a new pair. I said, here's the deal. Remember how much you were complaining last year this time when I was wearing these? They were new. They were worse. They're worse new. Yeah, I know. You just got to toss them out every once in a while, get a new pair. I go, listen, you're missing the math here. They're worse new.

1:11:50🔗 Caller So new ain't an option.

1:11:52🔗 Adam What I should do is trade them for some older ones. Yeah, I'm thinking of suing Nike, by the way. Yeah. Still haven't got to the bottom of how much they're paying their biggest shoe endorsed WNBA star up there, you hypocritical a-holes complaining about that. Why aren't chicks making money in your stupid spots? You pay them, idiots. Jody?

1:12:19🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:12:19🔗 Adam What's up?

1:12:20🔗 Caller Okay, back in September of 98, I was raped. And to make a long story short, I ended up not finding out that I had warts until after I had sex with a really trusted friend of mine, this guy that I've been friends with forever.

1:12:39🔗 Drew Then he got them?

1:12:40🔗 Caller What was that?

1:12:41🔗 Drew Then he got them?

1:12:42🔗 Caller I don't know. I didn't find out until after. Now he's moved away at school and, you know, he's a guy that stresses out about a lot of things and I don't know how to tell him. I see.

1:12:57🔗 Drew I want to create e-greeting cards about things like this.

1:13:00🔗 Adam Uh... Jodie? Does he know you're raped? He does.

1:13:07🔗 Drew I think you gotta just tell him that's how it happened. You didn't know and you thought he should know.

1:13:14🔗 Caller What's the best way of going about it? Is there any kind of comforting news?

1:13:18🔗 Drew Comforting news is it's not gonna hurt him. And as long as he wears a condom, there's a good chance that he'll keep it from spreading to the other.

1:13:27🔗 Adam What happened with the rape?

1:13:29🔗 Caller It was at a party. And I don't even know the guy.

1:13:34🔗 Adam Oh, you're twenty. You sound like you're fourteen.

1:13:36🔗 Caller Yeah. I get that sometimes.

1:13:39🔗 Adam You alright?

1:13:40🔗 Drew I wonder why that is.

1:13:41🔗 Adam Did anything happen before this rape?

1:13:43🔗 Caller Um, no. I've never been sexually abused before it. My dad used to hit me, but that was it.

1:13:52🔗 Drew Except for that, nothing.

1:13:53🔗 Adam Yeah. I got that from your voice. You alright with that now?

1:13:57🔗 Caller Um, yeah.

1:13:58🔗 Caller I mean, I love my dad. And he doesn't do it anymore.

1:14:00🔗 Drew Yeah, but do you pick abusive guys?

1:14:03🔗 Caller No, I don't.

1:14:05🔗 Drew It was a rape, a date rape kind of thing?

1:14:07🔗 Caller It was just at a party and, uh...

1:14:10🔗 Drew Did you report him?

1:14:11🔗 Caller No, I mean, I don't even know if his name is...

1:14:14🔗 Drew Right, but that's where this, that's where dad's influence continues to rage on.

1:14:20🔗 Adam Alright, listen, I've said this many times. My dad missed a couple of Pop Warner football games. I've never forgiven him. I don't like the man because of that.

1:14:27🔗 Drew I call him No Count.

1:14:28🔗 Adam No Count. Lazy and No Count. Like, uh, Pork Salad Annie. So, the point is, is, uh, your dad beats on you for a while as a girl, too. You know what I mean? And listen, parents shouldn't be beating on anybody, but if you're gonna beat on someone, beat on your boys. You know, they can beat up on someone on the Gridiron Sunday. You know what I mean? Beating on your little girl as a daddy, it just ain't, it's not kosher.

1:14:55🔗 Drew In the society, can't we do something about that?

1:14:58🔗 Adam No. But listen, daddies who beat on their little girls, enjoy. They're gonna get raped at some party. Your little girl, she's gonna get passed around a party.

1:15:08🔗 Drew It happens early enough, she'll then become a stripper. And she'll feel your life's long dream.

1:15:12🔗 Adam That's right. Make a nice porn film. All your buddies can watch it at work. Brian?

1:15:17🔗 Hello?

1:15:17🔗 Adam You're 15.

1:15:18🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, see, before I got on, I called to talk to Stephen. He left, and I didn't know that. And it's kind of bad. But anyways, I still got a question.

1:15:27🔗 Drew All right.

1:15:28🔗 Caller For Drew?

1:15:28🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:15:29🔗 Caller Yeah. I need to know when I know that it's time that I can have sex with my girlfriend.

1:15:34🔗 Drew When do you know if you're ready?

1:15:36🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:15:37🔗 Drew If you have to ask that question, you're probably not ready.

1:15:39🔗 Adam Your nuts should turn a yellowish, sort of purple-yellow hue to them.

1:15:44🔗 Drew In general, how old is she?

1:15:46🔗 Caller 15.

1:15:47🔗 Drew Yeah. That's early for her, really. Just from a standpoint of just how the brain develops, how the emotional system develops.

1:15:53🔗 Caller So I shouldn't be worrying about it yet?

1:15:54🔗 Drew No.

1:15:55🔗 Caller It seems like everyone at school in events can kind of talk about it.

1:15:58🔗 Drew No. If you hit 17, you're still in a committed relationship with her, that would be sort of normal. That would be a normal part of that relationship development.

1:16:05🔗 Caller So I should probably just hold off till then?

1:16:06🔗 Drew Hang on. Hang on. Hang in there, Ryan. The fact that you're willing to hang in is a good thing.

1:16:10🔗 Caller All right. Thanks.

1:16:11🔗 Adam All right. Just bottom another three weeks, Drew. God bless you. Jason?

1:16:16🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:16:16🔗 Adam You're 19.

1:16:18🔗 Caller Yeah. I'm naturally attracted to women who have been victims. Yeah. A lot.

1:16:24🔗 Adam Easy pickings.

1:16:26🔗 Caller What?

1:16:26🔗 Adam Easy pickings. That's why.

1:16:29🔗 Drew Was your mom abused or something? Or were you taking care of your parents in some way when you were growing up?

1:16:33🔗 Caller Yeah, I was. I mean, in my relationships now, I keep trying to help these victims, and I sell myself out for more hurt.

1:16:42🔗 Drew What was the deal about you taking care of your parents? What happened there?

1:16:47🔗 Caller Just, you know, weird family situations, like, you know.

1:16:54🔗 Drew I don't know.

1:16:55🔗 Adam Enough said, Jason. I think we all get the picture.

1:16:59🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to say some things in case anyone recognizes me.

1:17:04🔗 Drew But the point is, you did a lot of parenting and caretaking of your parents. Right.

1:17:09🔗 Adam All right. So why don't you get yourself a little therapy, and then you won't keep doing this for the rest of your life.

1:17:15🔗 Drew See, what happens is, at those stages in development, when you needed a parent in order for your brain and emotional systems to develop in a proper way, in order to have that nourishment it needs for yourself to develop, it wasn't there. You were busy focusing on taking care of other people, and that's the only kind of gratification you could get. Any sense of worth you could get was by taking care of somebody else rather than the usual milestones that you would be able to go through if somebody were there helping you. So that's why therapy has a role to play here, is that available other person will help you get through those milestones again.

1:17:44🔗 Adam Carolla. You're 20. What's up?

1:17:48🔗 Caller Well, I'm about to get married and I've been with this guy for about five years and on and off, and we have a little baby together. And before we got together, I had a lesbian experience with one of my best friends. And now I'm kind of leaning towards women more than men.

1:18:08🔗 Adam I see.

1:18:08🔗 Caller And, you know, I I really, really love my fiancee with all my heart, you know, and I just, I don't know what to do. I'm finding women more and more attractive every day.

1:18:21🔗 Adam Drew's doing the same thing. It's all the rage now. What happened to you when you were a kid?

1:18:29🔗 Third Eye Blind What happened to me when I was a kid?

1:18:30🔗 Caller What do you mean?

1:18:31🔗 Adam Anyone monkey with you?

1:18:32🔗 Third Eye Blind No.

1:18:33🔗 Adam No. Just into the chicks and the lads?

1:18:36🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:18:36🔗 Drew Why such confusion at age 20? Most people sort of sort of this stuff out by the time they're 18.

1:18:42🔗 Caller Well, it's just coming like it happened to me before we got together and now I'm feeling it again.

1:18:51🔗 Adam All right. And how old is your child?

1:18:54🔗 Caller Two.

1:18:55🔗 Drew Is it more a function of not wanting to get married than anything else?

1:18:57🔗 Caller What's that?

1:18:58🔗 Drew Do you not want to marry him?

1:19:00🔗 Caller I really do.

1:19:00🔗 Caller I want to marry him.

1:19:01🔗 Adam No. No, I don't think you do. I don't buy it. If you really did, you wouldn't be having these feelings. These feelings suddenly swelling right as the impending marriage approached. You see what I'm saying, Carly?

1:19:15🔗 Caller Yeah, but I really do.

1:19:17🔗 Adam All right. Well, go get married then. But these feelings are kicking in for a reason.

1:19:21🔗 Third Eye Blind That's true.

1:19:22🔗 Drew And if you're going to get married, well, if you're going to get married, you're going to have to commit yourself. You're going to have to relinquish the choice that you now have.

1:19:31🔗 Third Eye Blind Okay.

1:19:32🔗 Adam All right. So listen, listen. Don't get married then.

1:19:36🔗 Third Eye Blind Okay.

1:19:36🔗 Adam Okay. But don't screw around. You got kids or a kid.

1:19:40🔗 Third Eye Blind Yeah.

1:19:41🔗 Adam Okay.

1:19:42🔗 Third Eye Blind Okay.

1:19:42🔗 Adam What's up with you? Really? What happened to you? Where is your dad?

1:19:45🔗 Third Eye Blind My dad is dead.

1:19:47🔗 Adam When did he die?

1:19:49🔗 Caller Almost 10 years ago.

1:19:50🔗 Adam I see.

1:19:51🔗 Drew You were 10. What was the circumstance?

1:19:54🔗 Caller What's that?

1:19:55🔗 Adam How did he die?

1:19:56🔗 Caller Heat cancer, bone marrow cancer.

1:19:58🔗 Adam Oh, boy. That's pretty heavy for a 10-year-old, especially since he's probably going through it for a little while too, right?

1:20:05🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:20:07🔗 Adam Okay. All right. Therapy for you too.

1:20:09🔗 Caller I don't need therapy.

1:20:11🔗 Adam No, yes, you do.

1:20:12🔗 Caller Okay.

1:20:12🔗 Adam Listen, you can't even figure out whether you like guys or girls. You're kidding me?

1:20:17🔗 Caller I like them both.

1:20:19🔗 Drew Carly?

1:20:19🔗 Adam Oh, boy. Listen, mama, you have a two-year-old.

1:20:23🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:20:23🔗 Adam Now, get some therapy. You're going to screw that kid up. You hear me? You got issues. They need to be worked out. This whole, I like them both, is nonsense. And listen, all you crazed bisexuals out there, I'm not listening to you. I'm really not. I label this as bizarre behavior. Deviant, I tell you.

1:20:45🔗 Drew Well, but...

1:20:45🔗 Adam You're all screwed up.

1:20:46🔗 Drew But, into both is one thing, but make your choice and make your commitment, and that's fine.

1:20:51🔗 Adam No, that's like a lesson. Do you need any more definition of screwed up than into both sexes? Everyone just sit down, close their eyes for a second, and think about the definitions, explaining them to what you call adjusted people about being screwed up. Being into both sexes, that's screwed up. It is. It just is. And listen, all that nonsense of, oh, well, that's right for him, but it's not right for her, and who are you? I'll tell you who I am. I'm the judge, jury, and executioner. That's who I am.

1:21:24🔗 Drew But don't you think it's okay for people not to judge other people for being that way?

1:21:31🔗 Adam Well, as long as you're not calling them, you should hire them. You should not take them out and beat them. You should definitely know they're screwed up. Personally, you might not want to hang around with them, just like you wouldn't want to hang around with someone else who was screwed up for another reason.

1:21:48🔗 Drew People might not want us to hang around with you.

1:21:50🔗 Adam Yeah. Listen, here's the beauty. I wish people would stop wanting to hang around with me. I really do. All of you. Leave me alone. Thank you very much. All right, Drew, why don't we take a break on time?

1:22:02🔗 Drew And then what?

1:22:03🔗 Adam It feels early. No, I'm too tired for good lightning. I really am. We'll be back and we'll talk to you after this.

1:22:10🔗 Caller Let's have some more fun.

1:22:18🔗 Caller Love Line, we'll be right back.

1:22:51🔗 Adam Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. He is Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew's young daughter has not gone to sleep yet.

1:22:58🔗 Drew No, she wants to talk in that microphone, too.

1:23:00🔗 Adam Yeah. Well, heat it up there, Anderson.

1:23:02🔗 Caller Let's hear what she has to say.

1:23:04🔗 Drew Hey, we hear you now, Paulina. You're on the air. You can say something. Say hi to Jack.

1:23:08🔗 Adam Oh, boy. She was like Ethel Merman 10 seconds ago. Now look at her. She's clammed up.

1:23:14🔗 Drew There you go. Say hi.

1:23:15🔗 Adam Paulina? Hi.

1:23:17🔗 Drew Hi.

1:23:18🔗 Adam Hey, Paulina. No, uh, no using the F word or the S word on the air, right?

1:23:24🔗 Caller Yes.

1:23:25🔗 Adam Okay. Enjoying yourself?

1:23:28🔗 Caller Yep.

1:23:28🔗 Adam What's your hamster's name?

1:23:30🔗 Caller Herman.

1:23:31🔗 Adam Herman.

1:23:32🔗 Caller I call him Coconut, too.

1:23:35🔗 Adam Why do you call him Coconut?

1:23:37🔗 Caller He's local.

1:23:39🔗 Adam Oh, he is a little crazy.

1:23:41🔗 Caller Yep.

1:23:42🔗 Adam Bilingual.

1:23:43🔗 Caller Very nice.

1:23:44🔗 Adam How's school going for you, Paulina? Good.

1:23:46🔗 Caller I'm already done with it.

1:23:48🔗 Adam Oh, you're done?

1:23:49🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:23:49🔗 Adam That's it. It's time to go to work?

1:23:51🔗 Caller Mm-hmm.

1:23:52🔗 Caller I'm having summer school.

1:23:53🔗 Adam Oh, you're going to summer school? Oh, Drew, when are you going to give these kids a break?

1:23:59🔗 Drew You're ice skating every day, too, huh?

1:24:00🔗 Adam Yep. Now, let's see. Are you in first grade?

1:24:04🔗 Caller I'm going to second.

1:24:05🔗 Adam Going to second. And what are you learning?

1:24:10🔗 Caller I don't know.

1:24:10🔗 Adam Little reading?

1:24:12🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:24:12🔗 Adam Probably reads better than I do.

1:24:15🔗 Drew Yes.

1:24:16🔗 Adam Yeah. You think I'm kidding? Oh, yeah. Yeah, she has a big future ahead of her. What do you want to be when you grow up? Let me guess. A veterinarian. You want to work with animals? Yep. Yep. Is there a young girl in America who did not want to be a veterinarian at some point in her life? But you can do it. Yep. Daddy will pay for all that college. And then after four or five or six or seven years when you graduate, you just go, you take more college.

1:24:48🔗 Drew Oh yeah.

1:24:48🔗 Adam Right?

1:24:49🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:24:49🔗 Adam Then it's, then more after that. Then you get to work with all the hamsters you want.

1:24:54🔗 Caller Yep. Like I have a hamster.

1:24:57🔗 Adam That's right. They're smart. They finally made these hamster cages out of plastic.

1:25:04🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:25:04🔗 Adam When I-

1:25:05🔗 Drew That's the travel cage you see on there.

1:25:06🔗 Adam I had one. It had a rusted wheel with an old playing card in it. It would be like, yeah, I mean, all night long just squeaking away. Then the hamster would start gnawing on the metal, and then they'd get to that sheet metal at the bottom and start scraping on it. It was really, you might as well just taking your nails and dragging them down a chalkboard and trying to sleep. How long have you had Herman?

1:25:33🔗 Caller How long did I have him, Daddy?

1:25:35🔗 Drew About two months.

1:25:36🔗 Adam About two months.

1:25:36🔗 Drew Six weeks.

1:25:37🔗 Adam Yeah. She said it was about six months, but that's a good part about being a kid. All right. Well, you'll have him for a good long time. I think the average life-

1:25:46🔗 Caller He turned two today.

1:25:47🔗 Adam He turned two?

1:25:48🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:25:48🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:25:49🔗 Drew She just decided that.

1:25:50🔗 Adam I see. Well, happy birthday, Herman. A hamster's lived to what, 30, 35 years old?

1:25:55🔗 Drew Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1:25:56🔗 Adam All right. Hi, Paulina. Thank you. Take a little nap now, okay? Please. Oh, there she goes. She passed that. She passed right out. Michael?

1:26:07🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:26:07🔗 Adam You're 17.

1:26:08🔗 Caller Hi. Thanks for taking my call. Long time listener, first time caller.

1:26:12🔗 Adam No problem.

1:26:13🔗 Caller Been listening for about five years.

1:26:14🔗 Adam Good times.

1:26:16🔗 Caller Sorry to hear that Fox passed away.

1:26:18🔗 Adam Oh, yes.

1:26:19🔗 Caller Good old guy.

1:26:19🔗 Adam Oh, it was very tragic.

1:26:21🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, first, before I get into my serious thing, I'd like to say I'd like to hear more Shuffles. More Drew and Adam Shuffles.

1:26:31🔗 Adam Well, we heard the Drew Boogie, I believe, last week.

1:26:35🔗 Caller Yeah, I did hear that.

1:26:36🔗 Adam Yeah. All right.

1:26:38🔗 Caller Well, now on to my serious question. I'm about to go out with this girl. Like, we've been majorly flirting and so on. And she went to a rave last night. And like, there was a part where she said she was drinking some of this guy's soda. And like, she can't remember about a half hour of the rave. And then when she came home, she had bruises on her breasts and her thighs. Wow. So like, she was pretty hesitant to tell me, but like she just said something happened. And so I kind of like tried to, in a roundabout way, find out what it was. And she finally told me. And said, give me a couple of days before I talk to you. And then so like, so I said, all right. And that was like earlier today. So I'm wondering, like, what do I do?

1:27:26🔗 Adam Michael, is this your girlfriend or is this somebody you're interested in?

1:27:31🔗 Drew Like, he's fixing to go out.

1:27:35🔗 Caller Yeah, we're pretty much about to go out.

1:27:37🔗 Drew About to go out.

1:27:38🔗 Adam I see. So in that case, every woman in North America is potentially one of my new gals.

1:27:43🔗 Drew Yeah, you're fixing to go out with each other.

1:27:46🔗 Adam Including Paulina over there, Drew. I hate to break that.

1:27:48🔗 Drew That's why she's in the other room.

1:27:49🔗 Adam Yeah, she's on. Oh, I could chew through that glass, no problem. Yeah, hold on. Let me talk to Drew for a second. I'm not so sure she thinks of herself as Michael's next girlfriend, as much as Michael thinks of her as his next girlfriend.

1:28:09🔗 Drew Right, I suspect that.

1:28:11🔗 Adam Yeah, and she's kind of going out to raves and having a good time and Michael's hanging out. Yeah, she wants a few days. Sounds like something happened at that rave.

1:28:19🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:28:19🔗 Adam Something that may not have been good, something that she doesn't want to talk about.

1:28:22🔗 Drew Something pretty serious and...

1:28:24🔗 Adam Possible rape.

1:28:25🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:28:26🔗 Adam Michael?

1:28:27🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:28:27🔗 Adam How long have you known her?

1:28:31🔗 Caller About half a year.

1:28:32🔗 Adam Same, same amount of time Paulina has had the hamster.

1:28:35🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:28:36🔗 Adam And why, why didn't, why haven't you been going out with her for the last six months?

1:28:43🔗 Caller Well, I would honestly say it's about three months, but...

1:28:47🔗 Adam Same amount of time Paulina has had the hamster.

1:28:50🔗 Caller Yeah. But, she's never really had a boyfriend before. Like, I'm taking it real slow with her and I don't want to force her into anything.

1:29:00🔗 Adam I see. You wouldn't want to hurt the kid. No. Yeah. Although she is at raves doing acts and getting passed around like a joint at a Doobie Brothers reunion. Nice. All right. Hey, Michael, I'm not so sure this is going to be your next girlfriend.

1:29:16🔗 Drew Yeah. And if it is, you really think she is? It could be a little wild.

1:29:20🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:29:20🔗 Adam Yeah, I do. You really do. What has she said to you? Have you kissed her?

1:29:25🔗 Caller Almost, but like her mom is Hispanic. She doesn't want her dating until she is 17.

1:29:31🔗 Adam I see. Well, as long as you've almost kissed her.

1:29:33🔗 Drew And she goes to raves instead of dating?

1:29:36🔗 Caller No.

1:29:37🔗 Adam You know those Catholics.

1:29:38🔗 Caller No. It was like a big, big rave. Like everybody in town was there.

1:29:42🔗 Adam Oh, I see.

1:29:43🔗 Caller I understand.

1:29:44🔗 Adam It wasn't one of those intimate situations where three or four people get together and rave.

1:29:49🔗 Drew Oh, my God.

1:29:52🔗 Adam What planet you figure Michael's living on? Oh, boy, I got to talk to him. Hey, Michael. Hey, buddy. I really would question whether this girl wants to be your next girlfriend. I really do. And I know that's your plan. Lord knows I've had plans for people in my life that they were unaware of and still don't know about to this day.

1:30:17🔗 Drew They're shocked, in fact, to find out they're part of a plan.

1:30:19🔗 Adam Had they found out that I even knew there was a plan for them, they'd sue me. Michael, you need to get a little more in touch with reality. Do you know what I'm saying?

1:30:29🔗 Drew Possibly.

1:30:30🔗 Adam Why don't you find a nice girl, you know, one that's slowed down, one who's ready for a relationship, one who's interested in you. I'm not sure she's that interested. All right. I didn't mean to burst a kid's bubble, but you know, it starts as his girlfriend, then it works up to he's working into it, then he's known her for six months, except for it's really three months, and well, he would have kissed her, except for her mom doesn't want her going out with anybody.

1:31:01🔗 Drew She's going to raves.

1:31:03🔗 Adam Yeah.

1:31:03🔗 Drew And getting raped.

1:31:05🔗 Adam Right.

1:31:06🔗 Drew But it's because she forgot. She wouldn't otherwise have taken. Right. How do you get guys off of that laser beam obsession they get with the one?

1:31:15🔗 Adam Okay. Let me explain something to all you young men listening to the show, and some older men and women. Here's the ultimate bottom line. The bottom line is what happens? You want to know what the bottom line is? The bottom line is the bottom line. That's the bottom line.

1:31:34🔗 Drew But the bottom line needs to be-

1:31:34🔗 Adam Do you go out? But do you have sex?

1:31:37🔗 Drew Does she call?

1:31:39🔗 Adam Do you have a relationship? Now, all the other reasons, the family members that don't want this, the people that are coming in and out of town, the, oh, let me take care of this, or we live too far apart, oh, I really like you.

1:31:52🔗 Drew How about the guys that don't even go up and talk to them? How much time do you give yourself before you go, okay, I've got to get on to my next- at least on to my next obsession? Two months, three months?

1:32:02🔗 Adam At least the amount of time that Paulina has had the hamster. That's all I can say. All the time.

1:32:08🔗 Drew Universal unit of time.

1:32:09🔗 Adam All the amount of time that I spent in high school, thinking about, obsessing about, planning about and getting nothing from somebody is, I'll tell you, if I could capture that time, I really, I would build, I think I could build a small city.

1:32:28🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:32:29🔗 Adam In a shorter period of time. I really do.

1:32:31🔗 Caller Earl? Yeah.

1:32:33🔗 Adam Complete with a monorail.

1:32:35🔗 Caller Okay.

1:32:36🔗 Adam From scratch. Earl, you're 17. What's up?

1:32:39🔗 Caller Well, um, I don't know. My girlfriend, we've been going out for about 7 months now and I always feel like she's cheating on me. I have no basis for it.

1:32:50🔗 Drew You've known her for 7 months?

1:32:52🔗 Caller We've been going out for 7 months.

1:32:54🔗 Drew She is your girlfriend for sure.

1:32:55🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:32:56🔗 Adam Yeah, we're a little worried now.

1:32:57🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:32:58🔗 Adam Yeah. We've been duped. We've been duped. Yeah. Once bitten, twice shy. You know what I'm saying?

1:33:04🔗 Caller Yeah. I'm sorry about that.

1:33:05🔗 Adam All right. So are you having sex with her?

1:33:08🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:33:09🔗 Adam Yeah. And why do you think she's cheating?

1:33:11🔗 Caller That's just it. I just don't see why she would want me and I don't know.

1:33:16🔗 Drew You have such low self-esteem that you figure she's going somewhere else.

1:33:19🔗 Caller I guess.

1:33:20🔗 Drew Well, eventually you'll force her to.

1:33:22🔗 Adam Yes.

1:33:23🔗 Drew Eventually you will.

1:33:24🔗 Caller Okay.

1:33:25🔗 Adam You understand that? Yes. You might as well just act like you belong there. Women especially really tap into that.

1:33:32🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:33:32🔗 Adam If you sit around and tell them enough times, I don't deserve you, eventually they'll go, you know what? You're right.

1:33:39🔗 Drew You don't deserve me.

1:33:40🔗 Adam Yeah. Men doesn't really matter.

1:33:43🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:33:43🔗 Adam I mean, we're not into that energy, good or bad. It doesn't matter.

1:33:47🔗 Drew We're attracted to the person.

1:33:50🔗 Adam We're into them. The fact that they think they're fat, worthless and unattractive and not attractive to any other man but you, great. So be it. Fantastic. We can't get enough of that. We really can't. Women-

1:34:06🔗 Drew We are really such simple beings.

1:34:07🔗 Adam I know. You sell that premise to a woman and-

1:34:10🔗 Drew They'll take it.

1:34:10🔗 Caller They'll buy it.

1:34:12🔗 Adam You're right. You're not good enough for me. Absolutely. All right. Let's one more quickie before we hit the break here. Jimmy?

1:34:19🔗 Caller Hello.

1:34:19🔗 Adam Twenty-six. Your ex-wife's boyfriend molested his kid.

1:34:24🔗 Caller Okay. So let's get down to the bottom of this. That dilemma is being taken care of. My oldest child is now in therapy for it. There is a search out for the guy- Great. That did it. My main problem is that I've always known that she picks screwy men. At the time, I was screw when I was with her. I've been straightened out, done better for myself. I'm in a much better place. I found out tonight she's on the road again. And I'm not really sure where to turn to eliminate this problem.

1:34:56🔗 Drew How about getting custody of the kids?

1:34:58🔗 Caller Well, that's what I'm getting at.

1:35:00🔗 Drew Get an attorney.

1:35:01🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:35:01🔗 Drew Get an attorney or a legal aid society. Get custody.

1:35:04🔗 Adam Yes. They have all sorts of societies for fathers now. Father's rights advocates and groups. And you can open a phone book, find them, talk to them. That will be a good place to start. We'll be back. What's up, Loveline?

1:35:22🔗 Drew Loveline will be right back.

1:35:52🔗 Adam Yep, well, that's about it. Listen, stay tuned this week. Big week plans, Snoop Dogg, SDP, No Doubt, Cisco, Everclear, Matthew McConaughey, 311, Lit, and the list goes on and on. So, until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:36:10🔗 Caller Good night.

1:36:11🔗 Adam Well now.

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