7:17🔗
Adam
It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, facts number 3108-54-4455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Tonight, we have a very gifted couple, Aimee Mann and Chris Penn. Actually, Michael Penn. I was just talking about Chris Penn. He is on the show. Michael, lean forward, please. You got to get up on that microphone or it's never going to work. Michael was on the show. I'm going to go with.
7:52🔗
Adam
No, not that long ago. Not three years. Three years? You're just agreeing with Drew because that's the tone.
7:59🔗
No, he got the info from me earlier.
8:05🔗
Adam
It must have been very late 97. Yeah, it was. Aimee Mann has never been on the show as far as I know. No. But I've been a fan of yours over the years. I know I don't look like one.
8:24🔗
Adam
Don't worry. There's going to be a lot of kissing up going on in the next couple hours. Aimee is going to be on The Tonight Show tomorrow night, correct? Yes. We're going to hear something off of her CD. Basically, this is Aimee's time in the sun. Although Michael, because he's been on the show, because they're married, decided to come in as well, and they're going to be touring together. I'll give you some of those tour dates. This has been going on for a while, right? How long have you guys been married?
9:03🔗
Well, we started to do these shows at Largo here in LA. And this is just kind of that on the road.
9:12🔗
No, it's great.
9:15🔗
Adam
And do you do a separate set and then come together, or do you just play together the entire time?
9:20🔗
Just switch off songs.
9:21🔗
Drew
Yeah, we switch off kind of chunks of songs. And we also have a comedian that comes out with this.
9:33🔗
Drew
Trust me, it doesn't sound that good. When we were playing at Largo, because Largo is very small and it's extremely loose. And Michael and I were talking one night about playing live in general. And although we really like to play live, we always feel sort of uncomfortable talking between songs, we never really know what to say. So we got the idea to have one of our comedian friends do our banter for us. So have a comedian just come out and just be us.
10:08🔗
Adam
Couldn't you hand him a tambourine like Tracy from the Partridge family, let him just sort of hang out there during the song? I mean, instead of coming back and forth? And is it between every song or is this between every couple?
10:25🔗
Adam
And so you guys will do your songs separately, but play with each other. And then you'll do songs that you've done together or that you've composed or written together.
10:37🔗
We haven't done that. We've never written together.
10:41🔗
Not compatible. We're both too dictatorial.
10:53🔗
Adam
That's right. And going out, is this the first road trip, though? I mean, I know you've played together at Largo, but together.
11:01🔗
We've been doing the tour in two-week blocks for a while since I don't know when.
11:06🔗
Drew
I think it was November, last November, December. So we'll probably do it for the rest of the year and then.
11:12🔗
Adam
Well, they're going to be in Berkeley. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're going all over the place.
11:20🔗
Adam
Right. New York, Atlanta, Virginia. Oh, man. You guys, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and back to California. Oh, McCabe's. That's a great place. Saw John Hite there in a Coupic show many years ago. Drew, you're not cool enough to know about that.
11:40🔗
Adam
All right. We'll take some calls and we'll hear something from Aimee's record before too long. Jennifer?
11:47🔗
Yes.
12:21🔗
Caller
Yeah, because you told me that it was impossible, and I told him that it was impossible, and he showed me.
13:15🔗
Adam
Oh, see, I was confused. I thought they were on top of each other. So one right above the next and average length.
13:40🔗
Adam
I have no idea what that is that you're drawing there, Drew. I still don't know what it is. I still don't know what it is.
13:53🔗
Adam
You sure we're not talking about a two-headed penis as opposed to two separate individual penises, Jennifer?
14:35🔗
Adam
Yeah. He got to have swung by the novelty penis shop and picked one up. But no, they do have all sorts of bizarre prosthetics these days. If you're a student of pornography like me, you'll note that they go through the movies once in a while. All right, Jennifer. Well, good luck with that. Isaac?
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Hey.
14:55🔗
Caller
Me and my girlfriend were talking the other day, and she started bragging about how she could orgasm at 12 years of age, and I want to know if that was possible.
15:10🔗
Guest
It is young, and most women don't connect that whole mechanism until quite a bit later, but some can.
15:26🔗
Caller
On Sunday, me and my girlfriend had sex for the first time, but we used a condom and it was protected and all.
15:33🔗
Caller
But she's still sort of freaking out that she could get pregnant, and so I was calling to find out what the chances were that she could get pregnant.
15:44🔗
Caller
It didn't fail. It wasn't like kept. I didn't keep it in my wallet or anything, so it didn't get hot or anything.
15:51🔗
Guest
Chris, if there's any question at all, she can always take the morning after pill, right?
15:55🔗
Guest
Emergency contraception. Simple enough. Doesn't hurt anything. It's very safe. If there's any question at all, I think people ought to be at a very low threshold to go ahead and take in that medication.
16:07🔗
Guest
You can get it from Planned Parenthood. You can get it from any physician, emergency room. If you're in the state of Washington, you can get it without a prescription.
16:30🔗
Adam
Hey, when you go into Planned Parenthood to get that morning after bill, can you walk in and get it that day and walk out?
16:37🔗
Guest
I would think each one is run independently, but I would think most of them would be set up that way. Yeah. You have to be. I mean, sometimes they become in at the 72nd hour.
16:50🔗
Guest
It's pretty much you take two within 72 hours, you take a second set 12 hours later. It works very, very well. Does not cause an abortion. There's great confusion about how this damn pill works. It works by suppressing ovulation, period.
17:04🔗
Caller
Yeah. A bunch of my friends have been doing a bunch of X here lately and keep on doing it, it's not going to hit you as hard. Somebody gave him the wise idea that you could stick this in your anus and get a better ride off the pill. Yeah. I told him that, hey, it shouldn't go there. It's not going to be good for him, but you know.
17:31🔗
Adam
Well, hold on. First, I think there was a misunderstanding. That's when you're trying to bring it in from Mexico. That's not when you're actually ingesting it. That's keystring ingesting it. You either get it into prison or out of Mexico.
17:43🔗
Adam
Oh, we talk to people who take three and four in a night, probably. Tequila shots rectally.
17:54🔗
Guest
Here's the amazing thing about this kind of behavior, is that although the route of administration is disturbing and bizarre, it's not ever in any way going to hurt this person as much as what the exercise actually does to their brain, period, no matter how you take it.
18:08🔗
Caller
Like physically, I mean, it's not going to cause any ulcerations or anything like that.
18:13🔗
Guest
Again, even if it caused an erosion in bleeding, it would not be nearly as dangerous as what the drug itself does to that person's brain.
18:19🔗
Caller
Now would it, now would the, since obviously it's going to hit the bloodstream a lot better because it's not going through the digestive juices and the stomach and everything. Is that going to cause more damage, though?
18:31🔗
Guest
Well, I don't know this for a fact. In fact, I don't even know that it's absorbed more quickly, to tell you the truth. You may have to prepare it in a certain way to make sure it gets absorbed quickly. In general, drugs' effect on the brain are dependent on not just dose, but the speed with which the dose, the concentrations come up in the blood and in the brain. So you're right, it may be more intense.
19:11🔗
Guest
Do we turn the date-line cameras and- This is the one. Discuss your interest in it. Some of the nausea and vomit is from irritation lining the stomach. You're not going to get that so much, right? Because you're not pouring alcohol directly into the stomach.
19:26🔗
Guest
The central nervous system effects can make your vestibular apparatus not work. You can vomit from that.
19:54🔗
Guest
It absorbs water mostly. And if a chemical is sitting there, it can be, it can be, not necessarily absorbed, that's why I don't know for sure about the ecstasy.
20:19🔗
Caller
What's up? I think I'm addicted to porn, and I don't know if this is unhealthy or not. It's kind of reached the ridiculous stage. Like any free minute that I get at home, I just throw the porn in.
20:37🔗
Caller
It pretty much doesn't matter. I mean, with the exception of the really sick stuff, I tend to stay away from that, but anything really does it.
20:50🔗
Adam
That's a stupid question. I don't know, but for some reason, I could picture women watching porn and not masturbating.
20:58🔗
Adam
I don't know, but women are very complicated that way. I've not gotten to the bottom of them yet. Soon.
21:08🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's right. Oh, at all. How dare you? I hope we caught that comment on film. At all.
21:16🔗
Caller
I just don't know if that's unhealthy, because my husband and I fight over Playboy when it comes. He takes it to work with him and we fight over it, because I get mad because he's taken it before I've gotten to see it.
21:43🔗
Guest
Oh, yeah. Because this is sort of an addict behavior in response to negative feeling states. This is what addicts do to get away, to manage feelings. You have inherited a very unique brain. It has special powers, special mechanisms. But part of that is responding.
22:08🔗
Adam
Special powers, special powers. Yes, you're put on this earth to do something special. Drink and masturbate. You'll have a gift.
22:16🔗
Guest
And I suspect you've been addicted to something at some point, like stimulant speed or cocaine or something.
22:26🔗
Guest
Because usually it's people that have already sort of geared up that reward system in the brain that they have inherited with chemical agents that then allows for this sort of alternative in behavior, like sexual compulsion, to do the same thing. Sexual addiction doesn't usually occur, in my experience, unless something has first charged the system up pharmacologically.
22:56🔗
Guest
Yeah, so your addiction is still real active. You might really think about this as a sign that you need to do something about your addictive chemistry.
23:15🔗
Adam
No. All right. I know he has a good job because he's allowed to bring pornography to work. Actually, he works in a factory. Works in a factory?
23:27🔗
Adam
Uh-oh. That's a bad sign. I have theories about men who work around metal. What do they manufacture?
23:45🔗
Good time. Nothing beats a good porn movie.
23:51🔗
Caller
Yes, I am. I was just calling to say that Aimee Mann and Michael Penn, you guys rock. You're so awesome.
23:57🔗
Caller
I love your music. It's great. I've been listening to Michael Penn since I was like in eighth grade and I'm 21 now. I was just curious about how you guys met.
24:08🔗
Drew
We actually met about 10 years ago. I met Michael at a show of his through mutual friend. Then I came out to Los Angeles to work and hooked up with him again. He had just gotten a divorce and we became friends. Then that turned into a relationship after.
24:33🔗
Adam
We're going to hear something off Aimee Mann's CD just because you were so nice. All right.
24:42🔗
Adam
Okay. Good. All right. Hang on to it. We have that cute up there, Anderson. Yeah. This is off Aimee Mann's new CD. It's called Red Vines. There we go. Aimee Mann, that is Red Vines off of Bachelor No. 2. And it is out, it is in record stores. Michael Penn, her lovely husband, is here with her tonight. So we have a team in here. Dr. Drew is here, and we will take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Brian, who's 16, once anal sex, but girlfriend is afraid it will rip her butt. Let's just say hi. Hold on. Brian?
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Yeah.
29:07🔗
She's 17.
29:21🔗
Caller
Well, I'm trying to talk her into it, but she's afraid that it might rip, because she said some of her girlfriends tried it, and it hurt them pretty bad, and it ripped down there. I want to know if that's really happened.
29:40🔗
Adam
All right. After this. Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Michael Penn and Aimee Mann are both here tonight, both very talented artists and a talented married couple as well. And Duran Duran, I guess, is gonna be in here Sunday night. We haven't seen those guys in quite some time either. Not sure what's up with them, but we'll find out on Sunday night. Brian?
30:43🔗
Adam
All right, so you're 16, girlfriend's 17. You've been going out for four months. And why do you want the anal sex so badly?
30:52🔗
Caller
Well, I don't know. I've just seen it in the pornos and it looks really, it just looks fun. Ow!
31:00🔗
Adam
Does it look fun or does it look like just something you haven't done and you want to check it off your list?
31:31🔗
Adam
Brian, let me explain. Sure, if you used a lot of lube on me, that'd be fine, but I'm a grown man and I have insurance. As far as your- I don't know if it covered- Drew, would it cover that? No, you'd sew me back up.
31:46🔗
Adam
Yeah. I sat on that bowling pin. I just take it out and stop asking questions. But Brian, here's what your girlfriend is saying. She's saying, I don't want to do it. Do you understand?
31:57🔗
Adam
You're trying to get her to do something she doesn't want to do, and that's not a good idea because it will haunt you.
32:04🔗
Adam
You may be able to get her to do it, but then she'll resent you and she will pay you back. If I know women in a slow and painful manner.
32:24🔗
Guest
A single exposure, probably no big deal. Multiple exposures. Although I've not seen this, I'm expecting to see some significant recurrent mood disturbances, depression, that sort of thing, which is what typically occurs from hallucinogen exposure.
32:50🔗
Adam
But listen, let me explain something. I give this speech weekly now. All right. You got a decent brain in your skull. Not a great one, just a decent one.
33:07🔗
Adam
You'll go from average to stupid. Well, yeah. If you're a genius, you could knock yourself down to average, and I'll be okay with that. But you're starting at average, and you're going to go down to moron. Then there's going to be trouble. I mean it.
33:21🔗
Guest
I understand. There's growing evidence that 15, 16, 17-year-olds will have brain change and even damage from even modest exposure to hallucinogens, including marijuana.
33:30🔗
Adam
I mean think about what people are doing. You're 15, 16, 17. As it is, you have sort of an average IQ, and life's going to be a struggle. I mean you're going to have to work hard. You're going to have to study hard. You're going to have to do whatever just to get a decent job. Now you're dumping a whole bunch of acid and a whole bunch of X on top of that, a whole bunch of weed on top of that, and all of a sudden you go from sort of average to retard. And you've put yourself into that position.
34:00🔗
Guest
The problem with all those hallucinogens now is not so much that they affect cognition, that you become more stupid.
34:08🔗
Guest
More stupid, though you can affect memory. The more routine kinds of consequence have to do with just long-standing recalcitrant mood problems, severe depressions that go on a lifetime.
34:21🔗
Adam
Yeah, yeah. Like I said last night, I'd freak out if I did mushrooms now. I'd freak out. I go nuts. I think I'm positive of it. John?
34:33🔗
Yeah.
35:14🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's solid. Six and a half? Yeah. Now, do you measure like I do from the center of the anus to just beyond the tip?
35:22🔗
Guest
And let's set Aimee straight here, too. By the six and a half is not average for the grown male.
35:34🔗
Adam
I wish I could show you six and a half. Using something other than my fingers, but yeah, there you go. That's in between the fingers. But you measured correctly there, John?
35:51🔗
Adam
But listen, it doesn't guarantee a rich and fruitful life for you. You still have to work hard.
36:00🔗
Adam
All right. What do you think the average age a guy measures his penis? Everyone's met. Drew, I know you've measured your penis, although you don't want to talk about it. Michael, I know you've measured your penis, because every man has measured his penis.
36:13🔗
Caller
Most of it's in the fifth dimension. It's down the Kurt Vonnegut line. I've measured somebody's penis, and most of it's in the fifth dimension.
36:23🔗
Adam
Drew was a little more advanced. He did the water displacement test. It wasn't enough that he just got the length. But the point is, you do it somewhere around 15, and then you don't seem to do it again. I don't know if it's because you don't want to know at a certain point, or it's just you're not interested or what it is. But I think every guy does it, and I'm guessing the average age would be about 14 or 15. Tad? If you go metric, though, it's much better. 26 millimeters per inch. Yeah, it can be like 150 millimeters or something like that, 175. It sounds impressive. Tad?
37:04🔗
Yes, oh my god.
37:34🔗
Caller
It ranges. It depends on the customer. We've built aircraft up to $85 million a piece for the Sultan of Brunei. I mean, that was ridiculously high. That's the high end where you had gold inlay in the wood and diamonds. It was ridiculous.
37:55🔗
Caller
Gentlemen, first, I can't tell you. I've taken many seeds of wisdom from both you, Drew, and Adam. I have a great deal of respect for what you do for the public, the service you perform on a weekly and daily basis.
38:16🔗
Caller
Oh my God. Well, basically, it's very hard for me to share this with you, but I'll do my best. I have a beautiful little daughter, her name is Skye, and I have been legally restrained from her by her mother who wanted to leave the country, and that was the only way she could do it. I have never performed anything in the world of violence. I have done everything I can do legally to be a part of my daughter's life and build a relationship with her. Unfortunately, the mother's demands for her independence overwhelmed her, I think, sense of being a regular family. I did everything I could do. I am honestly telling you this, to be a member of a family. I offered her a ring, I bought her a car, I asked her to marry me, and when she would not accept the fact that I enjoyed living in this country and wanted to stay on the West Coast, she got very bitter and cold and distant over time.
39:20🔗
Caller
The baby wasn't going to have an English accent, she wasn't going to eat tea and crumpets, she wasn't going to have the lingo. I mean, they call things over there very differently. A hood on a car is called a bonnet, a diaper is called a nappy, it's ridiculous.
39:41🔗
Adam
Well, you know, they call the hood the boot and then the boot's the bonnet or something. They're very confusing, I understand that. Here's something ironic, the guy builds airplanes for a living, his kid's name is Sky.
39:54🔗
Adam
I don't know if he had another kid, you have to name it like a helicopter or something, or like a propeller. On one hand, I believe him, on the other hand, he sounds sort of detached from the whole experience. Sounds a little frantic.
40:15🔗
Guest
But he's had to do it in court and whatnot. I mean, he's got a script, well-heeled script here.
40:34🔗
Caller
Oh, my God. She just goes down to the court and asks for one. She had no allegations of violence. None.
40:44🔗
Caller
Obviously, I didn't fulfill the need she had. She's five years older than I am. Ironically, after I was restrained, I went to deliver a birthday cake. I'm not kidding. She had the police called. They had an order saying, oh, you were under a restraining order. That was a violation. I ended up back in court because I dropped a birthday cake off.
41:04🔗
Caller
I'm not kidding. But she doesn't want to marry me basically because I don't think she was, and I am, at the same stage that we are in life.
41:25🔗
Drew
All right. She's not going to mediate. She doesn't want to work it out. Really, the only thing you can do is go to court. You've got to go to court. You've got to try for full custody because that's the only thing that- I mean, I was-
41:41🔗
Caller
There are father's rights organizations that you can contact as well that will help you direct you to the course of action you should take.
41:48🔗
Drew
If you fight for full custody, there's a chance you might get joint custody or there's a chance you-
41:55🔗
Caller
She's gone. I fought an uphill battle with an attorney. There's probably a very big mistake to use one. At least he thought he was guiding me in the right way, not knowing the system, not understanding what I was-
42:05🔗
Drew
You've got to go for full custody, man. That's the only- Because if you don't ask for full custody, they don't award joint custody.
42:27🔗
Drew
They were in mediation. They haven't come to an agreement. There is no custody agreement yet. There has to be a custody agreement. She's- Well, I don't know.
42:40🔗
Drew
When I was three years old, my mother took me to England before there was a custody agreement. So from what I know about it, England's not really amused when you do that. So I think the authorities might be able to get involved in that way.
42:58🔗
Drew
My father figured out where I was just by accident after about nine months. I think they got in touch with the English authorities and they saw to it that I was brought back. Now I'm not positive.
43:11🔗
Guest
Now what do you think would be the best thing for the child? Let's say in this case, the Tad's calling him bad. By the way, this thing that Tad's describing to us, there must be big, big pieces of this puzzle missing.
43:23🔗
Drew
There always is. There always is two sides to every story, but sometimes the other side is just that the other person's crazy. Yeah, that is sometimes.
43:37🔗
Guest
Let's look at it from the standpoint of the child, of how we advise Tad. Is he doing something good on behalf of the child to go after her? Should he let the child have his life and establish a life elsewhere?
43:46🔗
Drew
I think, I mean, unless something's really wrong with him, and then we don't know that, or unless something's wrong with her, and that could be, I mean, a restraining or with no reason, that's pretty crazy. That's, you know, that's kind of chaotic. So unless something's wrong with either of them, you know, that they're violent or dangerous in some way, I really think that the child needs to see both parents.
44:10🔗
Drew
And maybe it's that six months out of the year, the kid lives in England, and six months she comes back here.
44:16🔗
Drew
No, no, I didn't see her. I didn't see my mother. When I was brought back, it was a very complicated situation, but I ended up seeing with my father. I didn't see her until, I saw her once when I was 14, and then I saw her again when I was an adult.
44:35🔗
Guest
Do you remember that being a painful or unpleasant experience, being taken away from her?
44:47🔗
Drew
It's just, you know, the guy she ran off with was a big problem. So, I remember not wanting to be with, you know...
44:56🔗
Drew
Around that. And, you know, I think my father is probably more stable. So, you know, but the whole thing was damaging. I mean, it was terrible to be taken from him for nine months. It was a long time when you were just a little kid. Oh, yeah. So, you know, the whole thing was pretty, pretty awful. I mean, I don't have sort of active memories of the pain of being taken, of not being with her anymore.
45:33🔗
Adam
All right. We got to take a break. I'll tell you what. We'll gang up on Aimee during the commercial and see if we can pull some of that out of her. What do you say, Drew? Drew's good at that. Let's go. All right. You ready? A little tag team avoidance detachment. Full cracker. Yeah. I'll start on the right flank. You go low.
46:35🔗
Adam
Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew. Amy Mann and Michael Penn are our guests tonight. We're here mainly to talk about the Amy CD, and we're gonna hear something off of Bachelor number two, which is Amy's latest CD. She'll also be seen on the Tonight Show tomorrow night on Leno, which is pretty cool. Drew, you've never done Leno, right?
47:07🔗
Caller
The reason I'm calling is because five months ago, I gave birth and ever since then, sex has been so painful that I really can't have it at all.
47:35🔗
Adam
I'm sorry. My lip hurts every time I hear that word episiotomy. Drew, describe the episiotomy for younger listeners.
47:44🔗
Guest
Basically, it's like putting the floor of the perineum. How can you describe that where that is to people? Just the part between the vagina and the anus, sort of stretches out as the baby's head comes down the birth canal. Dr. Pinsky reaches down there and just cuts along the perineum, the part where you're glued together.
48:03🔗
Adam
Drew, you go cuts along and you make this motion that's about a foot and a half long, but there's not that much space between those two areas, is there?
48:19🔗
Guest
It thins out and it stretches, and it comes out like this. Oh. Then you just cut it and out comes the kid.
48:24🔗
Adam
And what do they do? Rub some coke on it or something before they cut it? They just cut it.
48:53🔗
Guest
There's all that afterbirth and everything. The tough detail is if you don't do the episiotomy, it rips through the vagina and the rectum.
49:16🔗
Caller
Well, actually, before I got pregnant, I was having some problems where it did hurt a little bit. And I told my OB about it. And he says, Oh, don't worry. After you have a baby, you'll be fine. It'll probably even be better for you. But now it is much worse. It's so painful. It burns very badly, too.
49:46🔗
Well, no.
49:48🔗
Caller
I do get excited. But then when the time comes, I think I get very nervous because I know it's going to hurt.
49:54🔗
Guest
Then I'll tell you what. The hormone changes associated with having had a child can affect things like lubrication. Mm-hmm. How long ago was the baby delivered?
50:03🔗
Guest
Have you thought about going on birth control pills, something like that, to try to sort of reestablish normal?
50:10🔗
Guest
Okay. Well, that may be the problem right there. Really? Absolutely. It may not be the child. It may be the Provera. Because that does change a lot. A lot of side effects. It's a great contraception. It's easy to use and whatnot, but a lot of side effects.
50:29🔗
Adam
Okay. Hey, I got to get some of that. I think I'm exceptionally moist down there. You know, like after a long day.
51:31🔗
Adam
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And wow, not many options left for your husband. What? And does he do that on you?
51:51🔗
Caller
I don't know. I mean, ever since the baby's been born, we just, we have not had sex at all.
52:09🔗
Adam
Uh-huh. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah. All right. Why don't you look into that, Aimee? I think there's something else going on here. And why don't you give him some moral sex? Did you have a bad experience?
52:23🔗
Caller
No, I didn't have a bad experience. I'm just, I'm afraid to in a way too. It just kind of grosses me out.
52:42🔗
Adam
The man's in pain over there. All right. And he should get busy too. There's something going on with this couple. Do you know what I'm saying?
52:54🔗
Adam
She's talking. It's all sort of biological. And then you bring up something and she's like, yes. And then she goes back to the biological stuff. And then it's like, but he won't. And then it's back to again, there's definitely some issues there. All right. Well, oh, we got to take a break. Andrew?
53:31🔗
Adam
Back in a minute. Well, it's worth hearing. Yep, we're back with more Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew over there. Michael Penn and Amy Mann are our guests tonight. They're a talented married couple. Bachelor number two is Amy's CD, and MP4 is Michael's CD. And we're going to hear something else off of Amy's CD. Coming up this time, in this hour, sometime soon. Also, you can find her on The Night Show tomorrow night. And Drew, where are we going? Oh, OK, sorry. Andrew?
55:03🔗
Guest
All right, I don't know that that specifically has any significant effects, though. Accutane is a tough drug on your system. You don't want to be taking other things with that.
55:28🔗
Guest
It depends on how long you've been smoking. Yeah. If you've only spoken nine times in the last four months, you've got nothing to worry about.
55:54🔗
Adam
I don't know about that. I know something interesting I found out on the show just some months ago from Drew, that the place where they keep books is called? Library. Bookstore.
56:06🔗
Adam
Library. And the thing I found interesting about the word library is it didn't have book in it. It's just library. It's like you think it would be called like book place or book holdatorium or you know what I'm saying? Book hole. Book building. But library, it's like where's the connection? Where does that even come from, Drew? You know what I'm saying?
56:30🔗
Adam
Yeah? Libra? And what do they have to do with it? That's my point. No one knows. Chelsea? Yeah? You're 17. No wonder there's not more people there. They're confused. They can't figure it out. What's up?
56:56🔗
Adam
Well, it's probably 18 in Los Angeles. I think it's 11. You have to have a note from a producer.
57:03🔗
Guest
And I would think the few cosmetic or plastic surgeons would be willing to do this to somebody that hadn't finished developing.
57:42🔗
Adam
Yeah. Maybe 140? No. All right. Wow. Hold on. I turned my earphones down. All right. What's up? Drew, please. You're 17 years old. You have a beautiful body, right? 125, 5'7, nice C cup. Where are you going?
58:43🔗
Caller
I used to weigh like 160 and then I got mono and I got really skinny. Then I went to the gym and blah, blah, blah. Then so now I'm like.
58:52🔗
Caller
Now I just want bigger boobs. That's all because it's like I got the weight part down. Now I just want bigger boobs.
58:59🔗
Yep.
59:03🔗
Guest
You jumped at me when I said you have an eating disorder. Have you ever thought about vomiting or using laxatives?
59:11🔗
Caller
I eat all the time. I have no problem with eating. It's just before I ate way too much.
59:26🔗
Caller
Like I know that girls like have dreams about, you know, like lesbian stuff and I'm not lesbian at all, okay? And like a normal lesbian dream would not gross me out or anything, but I had like a lesbian dream about me and my sister.
1:00:01🔗
Adam
Well, hold on a second. We don't talk to many stereotypical high school girls anymore in this show, but I think we found our mascot in Chelsea's. He's like, do you have any? He's like, no. You're not allowed to- No.
1:00:34🔗
Drew
I think sometimes you can have a dream where you're having sex with somebody, but it's just more symbolizes intimacy. It somehow gets sexualized.
1:00:46🔗
Guest
Yes, absolutely. Women do that more frequently than men, but that's absolutely the case, especially at this age.
1:01:22🔗
Adam
Listen, you got to start hanging out with some of the frumpy chicks. Makes you feel better about yourself. Don't you understand anything about psychology? Do you know what I'm saying?
1:01:33🔗
Drew
Well, it's not only all relative. I mean, if it's done because you imagine that that's what guys like, that's what all guys like, that just isn't true.
1:01:45🔗
Adam
That's right. I'm very unique. Thank you. You're finally coming around. There's a backlash against the fake boobs these days. There's magazines coming out, all natural magazines.
1:02:05🔗
Adam
I'm not a fake boob fan. Fake boobs better than no boob. It's not as good as a real boob.
1:02:17🔗
Adam
Most guys I know aren't into the fake boobs. Like I said, as a society, I think we're experiencing a little fake boob backlash. Yeah.
1:02:28🔗
Adam
On the other hand, I sympathize for any 17-year-old girls listening out there who asked to turn on the TV and see what's going on and has her friends and all this stuff. I mean, I understand the temptation. And I don't know where I'd be if I was 17, if there's some process that I could do that would make women magically more attracted to me, I'd probably pay the money.
1:02:50🔗
Drew
This is the way I look at it. What kind of guy would be more attracted to you? A guy like Adam. That's right. Is that really what you want?
1:02:59🔗
Adam
You don't need another me in your life. No. I'm covered with hair. I have horrible habits.
1:03:06🔗
Adam
Yeah. It's like a pubic hair on top of my head. It's like I'm wearing a mercant on top of my head. Look at this. There's no difference. You see this?
1:03:36🔗
Adam
Yeah. Yeah. No greater, no greater compliment could be paid to a radio host having someone just sawing logs. All right. This is good, though.
1:03:57🔗
Adam
No, don't wake him up. We're going to just tune. We'll tune in and tune out with him. He'll be, he'll be sawing logs all night. It's great. There's nothing better. It keeps getting funnier, too. Aimee, I think that the Cussidy stories would really put him down. I'd probably put him in a ram. He'd probably just dozing off when I was telling some story. But I think the Cussidy story, I think that really put him down for the long count. All right. We're going to check back in with him. Then we'll start gambling on whether he's still snoring or not. It really gets fun. We haven't had one of these in a while, but it's always a good time. James?
1:04:33🔗
Caller
After I have sex with my girlfriend, after I ejaculate, it's hard to keep an erection, obviously, for most men, I'm sure. But is there something I can do to maybe go again, or is that pretty much it?
1:04:51🔗
Adam
Let me tell you something about erection. They're like syringes. You got to throw them out when you're done using them. You understand?
1:04:58🔗
Adam
But it's all right. You have an infinite supply of erections. You'll get another one. It's like a bus that runs every 20 minutes. There's another one that will be coming any moment now.
1:05:18🔗
Caller
When me and my girlfriend are about to have sex, it's like when I'm entering her, it kills her every time. Every time.
1:05:44🔗
Adam
You know what I mean? Real time, do you really pay your dues down there? Yeah. You do?
1:05:50🔗
Adam
You got the fingers and tongues and everything going? Really? And then and only then do you attempt to enter her?
1:06:00🔗
Adam
Well, maybe that's it. I mean, she could be kind of has that, you know, basketball sneaker on a hardwood floor kind of thing, that squeaky thing sometimes.
1:06:10🔗
Guest
And some women just have a certain amount of spasm down there that causes pain with penetration. The fact that it goes away after a while is sort of a good sign.
1:06:59🔗
Caller
Okay. Basically, birth control may be a condom would be about, well, I guess you can't say 100 percent, but-
1:07:15🔗
Adam
Daniel, did you hang up on our snore guy? Line number two. You have him? Oh, he woke up? That bastard. Tell him that Aimee's going to retell the custody story. Let's see if we can get him back down for the next break.
1:07:54🔗
Caller
I would say attempts about seven. When I actually come through, probably about four.
1:08:20🔗
Guest
Having a hurting, harming relationships, physically harming yourself, spending a lot of money doing stuff.
1:08:32🔗
Caller
Anywhere that I know it's safe, such as, I mean, a fair deal in my bathtub. I love the bathtub water technique, but I mean, it's gone so far as work. I mean, even in restaurants by myself, in the ladies' room, but wherever I can find a nice house.
1:08:49🔗
Guest
The real question is whether or not you were sexually abused when you were younger, because that's sort of what creates a sexual compulsive in most cases.
1:08:57🔗
Caller
See, well, I was celibate for about two years. I had sex when I was 17, like two times. And I recently started, like about three weeks ago, having sex. And it seems like I've had it, and it just doesn't do it for me. I'm much happier by myself.
1:09:24🔗
Caller
And, you know, I've never had any problems, any of the guidelines, the basic, you know, being turned on by rape fantasies and whatnot.
1:09:38🔗
Adam
Maybe it's living on that freeway that's doing it. Will you shut that goddamn screen door, please?
1:10:17🔗
Caller
We get along just fine. And I have no problem with father figures. And I don't like the sugar daddies.
1:10:27🔗
Caller
I don't know. I just that's a good question. I guess that's why I be calling you the expert.
1:10:32🔗
Adam
Well, did someone do something to you? I mean, burn you or hurt you, break your heart?
1:10:47🔗
Adam
Yeah. That's what I'm. That was my next question. What do you think about when you let off with yourself? Whatever the kids call it these days.
1:11:24🔗
Caller
I wouldn't. I wouldn't call myself full-blown, no. No, I wouldn't call myself full-blown, no. I can say I'm here, there, I guess bisexual would be.
1:11:52🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, she's on a national. How much national radio does she do? Obviously, it's distracting. I wouldn't have brought it up. And then as if I'm not going to hear it again. Oh, God, I'm only talking to her again so I can punish her.
1:12:27🔗
Drew
But what about the seven times a day masturbation? I mean, that does seem kind of compulsive or sort of mood altering or at the very least.
1:12:38🔗
Adam
And Linda, you have a real good rap and I know you've listened to the show and I know you know all the questions we're going to ask and all that kind of stuff and you're giving us all the answers before we even ask them. I sure as hell hope that truck just drove through your goddamn closet.
1:13:01🔗
Adam
Oh, do I hate that Linda. You guys all getting a vibe off of Linda like it's almost got a little serial killer in her, like a little Ted Bundy, a little rap.
1:13:14🔗
Drew
It's like real dissociative thinking, like there's not a real linear progression to the thought.
1:13:20🔗
Adam
Yeah. There's almost an anger underneath that smile and that rap that she has. It's like the people you deal with behind the counter at the airport. They're saying one thing, but they're acting angry. I'd like to help you, sir. But you're going, wait a minute, you seem angry even though you're saying, you're calling me sir and you're saying that one of our representatives will be more than happy to escort you or whatever, but you're sounding angry at the same time.
1:14:08🔗
Adam
Something's up with guys and I could get to the bottom of her and her dad. That's where it is.
1:14:33🔗
Adam
You should be able to get back to work in a couple of weeks, if that's what you're talking about.
1:14:38🔗
Adam
Stay off that vagina for at least a couple of days. And then hot and cold compresses right through a sitzpath. What? What else?
1:15:02🔗
Guest
Is there an emotional experience you went through? I mean, was there more of a connection with this person?
1:15:48🔗
Adam
That's it. You'll get used to it eventually. It's like a hot tub. You climb in, it seems real hot at first, and then eventually it's all right. So that's what orgasm is like. Oh, okay. You'll have a whole bunch.
1:16:21🔗
Adam
All right. It would be great to sit around sort of walking on air all day, basking in your own vaginal glow. You know, yeah, that'd be great. What would that take? Yeah. True doesn't masturbate or at least he doesn't admit to it. He thinks I'm insane because I'm good for once a day. And so so are all of my friends.
1:16:49🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, come on, Drew, you know, I have a very active lifestyle. We're going to take ourselves a little break here. Michael Penn and Amy Mann are our guests tonight. We're going to promise we're going to hear something off of Amy Mann's new CD when we come back.
1:17:39🔗
Adam
Yep, yep, Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew. Duran Duran is going to be in here on Sunday night. Michael Penn and Amy Mann are both here tonight. Amy's next song we're going to hear from Amy's from the movie Magnolia which was by the way nominated for Oscar. The song was, I think, the Dan Phil Collins song won. I wanted to blame Canada from the, I don't know what I'm talking about. That was the Matt and Trey song from South Park. Kind of a good song. I didn't know you at the time, Amy, so I wasn't pulling for you.
1:18:23🔗
Adam
Yeah. Another Elton John or Phil Collins. It just feels so forgettable to me. It just feels like, I don't know. That stuff just seems like it gets all cranked out of the same machine. What is that? Phil Collins is one of these guys, by the way. There are certain artists, I believe, that are sort of screwed and cursed, if you will, and others that are blessed. I haven't gotten into this for a long time, but it's high time I did.
1:18:54🔗
Adam
Well, no, I have. I've told you, for instance, like Hall and Oates, that song Maneater, for instance. How much Coke was dropped off at the program director's office before he started spinning that flaming turd? That is one of the worst songs ever created, that, whoa, whoa, here she comes. Watch out boys, she'll. If anyone doesn't think there was a problem with Paola and Coke in the radio industry in the early 80s, all you got to know is that Man Eater made it to number one. That song, to me, Hall and Oates don't exist anymore because of Man Eater, and Hall and Oates I was sort of on the fence about. Hall and Oates is one of these bands that people think are better than they actually are. They're sort of okay, but they're not that good, but I will hold Man Eater against them forever, and I believe that instead of just liking bands for their good songs, you should hold their bad songs against them. I don't care how much good stuff Hall and Oates has cranked out, but they also did Man Eater, and for that they should pay. That's the way I feel about Hall and Oates and that horrible flaming turd of a song known as Man Eater. And it did make it to number one, which goes to show you, like I said, how much coke is spread around and how stupid people are who listen to the radio, because then they requested it later on after it was played at Nausium, but it just becomes like, it's like a, listen, I can't get the Pete Ellis Dodge theme song out of my goddamn head, and that's the way people work, you play enough, whoa, whoa, here she come, and people just start robotically picking up the phone and requesting it, they don't even know what they're doing anymore, it becomes like a bad snack food that you can't get enough of, like you know when you eat a whole box of Nilla Wafers, and you stopped enjoying it at the fourth Nilla Wafers, but your hand keeps moving, that's what goes on with music sometimes, and Phil Collins is one of these guys, Phil Collins has a couple of good songs, a couple of good songs on his own, and a couple of good songs with Genesis, not all of them, there's 35 that they play on the radio, he has four that are good, I don't know where the other 31 came from, Huey Lewis, exact same thing, Huey Lewis and I got three good songs, maybe, but not 19, and I don't know why we have to be exposed to all of that, on the other hand, there are guys like John Hyatt who have millions of good songs and we get to hear one of them, how does that work? Obviously, it has to do with the Coke, in the industry, in the Paola, it has to do with something.
1:21:25🔗
Adam
It drives me insane and I know the masses are asses, they'll buy in anything and they would listen to something good and I know I'm kissing ass here, but I mean it, they'd listen to Michael Penn, they'd listen to Aimee Mann, they would gobble that up just like they gobbled up a man eater. They would gobble it up. High praise indeed. Thank you. Hey, you know what I'm saying though, if just play it and if you're going to just play something, just play something good.
1:21:54🔗
Adam
Yes, yes. It drives me insane. There's so many good artists and so many good bands out there and they don't get played and yet we have to hear another Elton John song. Like, I'm not going to go on with you like that. Ain't going to be no feather in your cab. I mean, Elton John has some great songs and he has some junk and all I want is the people that are pushing it and the people that are playing it to evaluate each and every song in its own merit. It's not Phil Collins came out with it. It's not Elton John came out with it. It's Elton's had some good ones. This one sucks. Let's not play it. That's what I wish. That's the world I wish we lived in. All right. I'm fired up, Drew, and I'm going to play this Aimee Mann song, all right? What do you say? It's called Save Me.
1:27:18🔗
Adam
Yep, it is Loveline. That is a little something from Aimee Mann off the Magnolia soundtrack. It was nominated by the way. Save Me. What's the title of that one? We'll hop back on the phones, take another phone call. Jennifer?
1:27:49🔗
Adam
It's inside out. That's right. It's been inverted because most our callers can have one during oral sex but not during intercourse.
1:28:12🔗
Adam
Let me tell you something about this whole note. Here's what I mean. There's women who can't have an orgasm via intercourse, and for those women, especially if they've been around in a few years and they're getting a little bit older, it ain't going to happen at a certain point. I mean, they have it during oral sex, they don't have it during intercourse, and they're going to go to their grave that way.
1:28:41🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's the way. They'll take that to the grave. They really will. But you show me someone who can have the orgasm during intercourse but not during oral sex, and I'll show you someone we could probably fix.
1:29:07🔗
Adam
You're having probably a more coveted orgasm, I would say out of the two. Yeah. So Jennifer?
1:29:24🔗
Adam
All right. Well, listen, you find a good guy and he does the oral sex and hones his technique. No problems.
1:29:30🔗
Drew
Well, sometimes it's not technique. It's just you feel self-conscious and you, you know, I think that's partly what it is.
1:29:36🔗
Caller
I just can't relax because I stress about it too much. I think I think that I'm not going to be able to.
1:29:44🔗
Drew
And if you're with somebody who is just, you know, if you're with somebody where the relationship is more about intimacy, that those those things kind of follow a little more naturally.
1:30:02🔗
Adam
There are women. You know what I was thinking? You know, we're talking about this last night, how women, you know, they they say, well, I got really close, but I couldn't have one. And then sometimes women do that thing where they're like, oh, no, no, no, it's not going to work. No, stop. You know, they're like right at the right at the cusp. And you talk to women that say like, oh, man, I was almost there, but it didn't happen. You know what that sort of reminds me of? It's like, be the equivalent of a guy going for number two with a couple of beers in it. Do you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? That feeling of like, I think I could get it. I think I can pull one off here. No, what I'm saying is, is when a guy enters sex, he's not going in going, oh, man, I keep my fingers crossed. I bet I can have an orgasm. Maybe not. I hope the mood's right. Geez, I'm a little stressed out from work. Geez, I don't know now. I did talk to my mother on the phone earlier this week. That may freak me out. I'm not sure. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed. Guys don't enter a sexual experience that way. Guys like, I'm going to have an orgasm.
1:31:11🔗
Drew
You don't have to like, try to shift around and find a position that activates anything.
1:31:18🔗
Adam
Now, if I'm full, by the way, we've got like a big belly full of food, that'll do it. Yeah, that's a problem. So, what I'm saying is, is women though, they may hit that place. They may not hit that place. And I'm saying, I'm trying to think of something that's sort of analogous for guys. And I would say for guys, it's like when you're going for number two and you got a full belly or you got a couple of beers or, you know what I'm talking about? And there's that kind of feeling like.
1:31:47🔗
Adam
Yeah. Well, I'm trying to get some of the men to identify with some of the women. That's all. I'm trying to bring the two sexes closer together.
1:31:56🔗
Adam
I really appreciate that. You're a mediator. Yeah. I'm trying to build some bridges here, Drew. I'm not sure what you're trying to do on this show.
1:32:04🔗
Adam
We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back after this. Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Aimee Mann and Michael Penn are our guests tonight. Bachelor number two is the name of Aimee CD. MP4 is the name of Michael's CD. We recommend them both very highly, and we'll hop back on the phones and speak to Beth. There's 29. Beth?
1:33:25🔗
Caller
Yes. And I don't quite, I guess I don't quite understand how I got it, and she said it could be cancerous and took a biopsy and everything.
1:33:50🔗
Guest
Yes, cause. Now, they're pretty well established. We don't know if it's the only cause, and certain subtypes of the wart virus don't cause it, but the wart virus is what causes significant percentages, if not all cervical cancers.
1:34:08🔗
Guest
You get it from sexual intercourse, and it's extraordinarily common. Most people your age have it.
1:34:21🔗
Adam
No. So what are the implications that there's going to be? Most means more than 50 percent.
1:34:35🔗
Guest
I don't know that down at the top of my head. It's obviously not most of those. But cervical cancer, the precancerous changes of the cervix are very common also, and they're easily treated and prevented. All they do is they go and freeze off a little piece or whatever, they do some cryotherapy, and that's it. They'll take care of it, but just stay on top of it. Okay. Then in a certain percentage, and I'm not sure, I've not seen a data that predicts exactly what percentage, the virus goes away by itself and the risk tends to go away. It's the persistent infections that really carry the significant risk of cancer.
1:35:13🔗
Guest
They typically get a wart, but often don't. Adam claims he doesn't have a wart, so we're gonna take out these instruments that help us detect the pre-wart skin lesions and prove that he has got the wart.
1:35:28🔗
Adam
Yes. Drew claims that a huge percentage of our society and certain age groups are living in urban centers, as he says, has this. More than 50%, he says, I tell him my penis is wart and virus free. He calls me a liar, and I say, you put your money where my penis is.
1:35:49🔗
Adam
Which you've done, and you bring in that black light, I'll dump the vinegar on my penis.
1:36:03🔗
Adam
I saw Drew's penis once at the airport in St. Louis. Yeah, it frightened me. Yeah. Ever since I saw his penis, I decided he can't see mine. That seemed like a bad plan. It's like, yeah, when you see someone toting around the Stanley Cup, you don't want to show them your participation trophy from a camp when you're 11, you know?
1:36:44🔗
Caller
I think the percentages are easily higher than the percentage of people who have viruses is those who have seen his penis.
1:36:55🔗
Jesus Christ in heaven.
1:36:58🔗
Adam
Fifty-eight percent of people have the HPV virus and a whopping 72 percent of people living in urban and rural areas have seen Andy Dick's penis. All right. Yvonne?
1:37:12🔗
Adam
But will they actually ever know Andy's penis like I do? I don't think so. I think they've seen it. A lot of people claim to see it, but they don't know it. What's up, Yvonne? Okay.
1:37:21🔗
Caller
Well, in my very first sexual deep relationship, and I've been having sex a lot, and my boyfriend talked to me into learning how to pleasure myself. So I stuck my finger out there, started moving around, you know, trying to find out what's going on up there, and I noticed that I had some space to move my finger around in. And I'm just wondering if there's anything I can do to tighten that up.
1:37:59🔗
Adam
Do you think you've loosened yourself up, like your vagina is made of clay or something?
1:38:11🔗
Adam
So it would stand to logic that the vagina was also made out of clay, not 100 pounds, maybe 20 pounds? 20 pounds of clay? Yeah? Do you want to tighten yourself up down there? Yeah. Yeah. It's probably something you're worrying about needlessly.
1:38:29🔗
Adam
Yeah. They do have these exercises, though. I think Suzanne Summers does them. I don't know why.
1:38:34🔗
Guest
It's basically the exercise. If you're trying to interrupt the flow of urine, those contracting those muscles.
1:39:11🔗
Adam
For a guy, what's it like? Is it like trying to pull your penis in? I think I did that. Do you know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about?
1:39:39🔗
Adam
All right. And the women can tighten themselves up a little bit. They work on that down there. It seems like one of those, you know, you hear those stories where Sting talks about banging his wife for nine hours on the beach or something, and you go, oh, stop it. You're just trying to make everyone jealous. Listen, we envy you already. Stop it with the...
1:40:00🔗
Adam
I don't know, and I sort of question people that spend too much time on those sort of topics. I know we talk about that all night for a living, but I mean, you know, you have... The whole reason you have sex is you can have the orgasm. Not so you can bang away for nine hours, so everyone's raw down there. Right, Drew?
1:40:20🔗
Adam
That's right. You boom, have the orgasm, you pay the lady, and you're on your way. That's what I said.
1:40:32🔗
Adam
Loveline. We'll be right back. Hey, is my mic on? Yeah. We're just talking about during the commercial, that parents who stage moms get their kids into acting at three and stuff. And it's always the same answer. It was his idea. Yeah. He wanted to be an astronaut too. You didn't fly him down to Cape Canaveral, did you? Anyway, it's his idea to do everything. He wanted to eat a 40-pound block of ice cream. He wanted to be a pirate. He wanted to drop out of the second grade. He wanted to drive. Of course, three-year-olds, eight-year-olds, they all have ideas. He wanted to be a performer. That's good, mama. He'll be doing coke and no tea. Amy Mann's CD, Bachelor No. 2, is the one you must go out and purchase. Also, Michael Penn's CD, MP4 is another one to look for. You can look for Amy tomorrow night on the Tonight Show. Thanks for coming in, you guys.
1:41:53🔗
Adam
And don't take such a long layoff next time, because we enjoyed it. All right, until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.