2:08🔗
Adam
Edison specialist. Tonight, we have Larry Flynt and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach in here. The Rabbi's been in here 18 out of the last 14 days. I just did the math. This is his third appearance in about two and a half, three months, I believe.
2:25🔗
Guest
That's because you've been collecting phlegm and you're just looking for some way to exit it by using my name.
2:30🔗
Adam
I told the Rabbi that I drank a half gallon of chocolate milk on the right end so I could pronounce his last name correctly.
2:36🔗
It is both.
2:39🔗
Adam
Larry Flynt, of course, you know, he stops by the show fairly regularly himself. Larry asked me if I was getting my subscription to Busty and I am. Thank you, Larry. I have to say, it's really like Christmas once a month when that Busty issue comes to the door because it's in a plain brown wrapper and it says, I think it's like Flynt Publications or something. It just says, it probably says LFP. LFP, right. So it doesn't say Larry Flynt on it. So I see this brown wrapper, LFP.
3:17🔗
Adam
Yeah, it can. Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's a Montgomery Ward's catalog or something. It doesn't look too good. LFP, what do they do? Used to, we used to play the Hustler or My Name On It. You know what would happen? Nobody would ever get their subscripts. May cause... Oh, right. Somebody would come and send somebody in the post office.
3:38🔗
Right. Oh, man.
3:40🔗
Adam
It is snowing in my hamper. There's just nuts roasting on open fire. It's great. And I talked to Larry's lovely wife who's here tonight the other day on the phone trying to work out something for the man show actually. And she told me about a casino that Larry's going to be opening in Gardena, right? Yeah. Where gambling or at least certain forms of retarded gambling are legal, because it only makes sense. And you've taken over, was it the El Dorado or the horseshoe? Well, it used to be the El Dorado Club, but I built a totally new structure. This is going to be by far the most exotic casino in California. So you took it down to the ground and built the Hustler, the Hustler? It's called the Hustler. And when's that open? It's open in the next 34 weeks. And what are the... And then we'll get into the Rambine, the Debate, which is going on tomorrow night, the Wilshire Theatre and all that. But what are the parameters of the gambling in Gardena? Because I know they have legal gambling there, but it's only certain forms of gambling, right? Yeah. You've got your basic poker games and all your Asian games, like cartel poker, but it's primarily a card club. We have basically, we've got the black jackpot games to it. It incorporates all the Vegas games with the exception of the slots and the craft. Do you bet against, you bet against other players, though, not the house. Is that the stipulation? Yeah. And that makes it okay? Yeah, that's the legal requirement. Yeah. But see, gambling on football is not legal and lottery, lottery, lottery, that's a very safe and effective, that is a smart man's gambler, gambling. It's either the Kentucky Derby or the lottery. Here's my gambling. I'd like to know what percentage of lottery tickets are bought by people in slippers. That would be the lottery that I would put into action when I got in the government.
5:56🔗
Adam
All right, go ahead, Rabbi. It's the longest you ever want in your life without talking, by the way. His previous record was six months to nine months. That was his longest stint, but it was just eclipsed now.
6:07🔗
Here, go ahead.
6:09🔗
Guest
We started the gambling thing in the synagogue as well. Saturday morning, try to get new congregants in.
6:19🔗
Adam
I don't know if you saw 60 Minutes tonight, but there's a black tribe that claims to be Jewish in Africa. Did you see that?
6:34🔗
Adam
Let's talk about what's going on tomorrow night. First off, I was asked sort of to do the moderating on it, but then they found someone else.
6:53🔗
Adam
They found somebody apparently who knew what they were doing, who was willing to do it. So, that's tomorrow night. Now, it's at 7.30, right? To the Wilshire Theater.
7:02🔗
Guest
Yes, to the debate on pornography, sexuality on the Internet, myself versus Larry Flynt. Larry and I met on a Fox television show, the Judith Regan Show.
7:21🔗
Adam
Really? Good. Tell that old douchebag to kiss my hairy ass. Play this tape for her, by the way. Play this tape for that old douchebag.
7:31🔗
Adam
We had a meeting with that Judith Regan. We'll get to this. She was riding high off the Howard Stern book. We had a meeting because we wrote a book as well. It was about two and a half, three years ago. She sat in the lobby of a ritzy hotel for about an hour while that old prune put her make up on. Then she meandered out, didn't apologize for being late and explained to us why no one wanted to buy our book, that we should do a book on chivalry because that was her son's idea. And let me tell you something, you old douchebag.
8:00🔗
Adam
I've got two TV shows and a national radio show and I don't know what the hell you're doing except for the rabbi's cookbook.
8:08🔗
Adam
And I've never seen that show of hers because I don't believe it airs anywhere but her living room.
8:17🔗
Guest
I will play the tape but she could bring me and Larry together and I enjoyed my debate with Larry on TV very much. I'll get into that a bit more later but I asked him then, I think we have the green room, whether we could debate this in New York and he said, let's do it in Los Angeles which is more convenient and since I have family here, why not? Larry has very clear...
8:35🔗
Drew
He's been living here, he's been living in Los Angeles to continue to do our radio. That's right.
8:51🔗
Adam
What is that when you hide the matzah? Is that just from the fat kids or is everyone looking for that matzah?
8:56🔗
Guest
That's the deal that the kids do and you can't finish the fader unless you get the matzah back.
9:01🔗
Guest
They negotiate with their parents to get like a present. I've been cleaned out. I've mortgaged the house.
9:12🔗
Guest
Larry, when he walked in today, he said to me there's nothing to debate tomorrow. He said that he's conceding the point and he's converting to Judaism. That's what you said to me, right?
9:27🔗
Adam
Yeah, I know. Larry needs one of those religions where he can repent at the very last hour though, and the Judaism is not going to work for that. He needs something where he can... Larry, if I were you, I'd keep a priest with me just in case there was trouble. You can just go ahead. Now, doesn't that the way it works, Drew? Just the last minute you find...
9:45🔗
He's got clergy here. Why don't you ask him?
9:46🔗
Adam
Well, he's got you. He doesn't know. Larry knows that. The latest statement I ever heard on religion is when WC. Philz was in the hospital dying, somebody went in his hospital and he was reading the Bible. They said, Philz, we did know you were religious. He goes, I'm just looking for a loophole. All right. So, Timonite, now, how much are the tickets, everybody?
10:16🔗
Guest
I actually wanted to offer like 100 free tickets tonight to the listeners of Loveline. My deep respect, and maybe I can speak on Larry's behalf as well, our mutual respect for Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla. So, we want you guys to have like your representatives there, the whole... Your groupies.
10:33🔗
Guest
Well, we have... To get tickets, you can call a number. It's 310-441-9361. That's 310-441-9361.
10:44🔗
Guest
Yeah, we'll give them free. There's 1,500 people coming. We already have 1,000 coming. And it's a big debate. Newsweek is going to be there, and USA Today, and we have a big pinup of Adam Corolla that's going to be there as well. Sort of like a moderator with... A passive kind of moderator.
10:59🔗
Adam
Thank you. Who is going to moderate that? Someone from the Los Angeles Times? Yeah, Robert Sherry, professor of UCLA, and he's been a columnist for the LA Times for several years.
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He's...
11:16🔗
Well, he's most famous for doing the...
11:23🔗
Adam
But he's... Robert, in many ways, is more political than even you guys are. So I thought, you know, when they ran his name by me, I wouldn't have cared, you know, Adam even if they wanted him, it wouldn't matter to me. But, you know, there were other people involved in it. But I didn't have a problem with Robert because he... I think he understands the politics of sex. That's something that a lot of people are not able to really grasp. What about people peeing on each other in your magazine, Larry? What's up with that?
12:03🔗
Adam
Are you going to bring that up? The politics of urination? You know, about four years ago, one of our photographers was out in the desert with some models doing a shoot, and our girl squatted down by the side of the jeep just to relieve herself during a break, and somehow the shoot got in the mix, okay? So I come across a photo editing desk, and we just thought it was kind of cute, you know, what she was doing. It wasn't bothered, in a sense. It seemed like a perfectly natural thing. But we were in that shot in the magazine, and we got more letters than anything we got in the last 15 years, from people saying, hey, that was great. Give us more of that. Show us more of that. So, look, I don't know what the fascination is, but I don't want nobody peeing on me. I'm not interested in peeing on anybody myself, but apparently that touched the cord with the guys. Fantastic.
13:12🔗
Guest
Well, these are all the kinds of issues that we're going to discuss tomorrow. One of the things I enjoyed in that Fox TV debate was that there were four of us. Me and Larry were two of the four, and we were on opposite sides, obviously. And no matter what people slung at him, and I don't get personal in debates, I like debating the issues. Larry was calm like the Buddha. He never responded personally, and he stuck to the issues, and I felt that we could have a really intelligent debate about what is one of the most important subjects in the world today, and that is 40% of the Internet is used for adult material and pornography. Now, when you consider that the Internet is one of the-
13:45🔗
Adam
That's alarmingly low. I agree. I like to see that move up to the 65 to 70 range in the next few years. I agree.
13:56🔗
Guest
When you consider that the Internet is one of the great technological innovations of the past two decades and of the 20th century, you have to just look at the fact that when so much of it is being fueled, driven by adult content, and some even argue that adult content is responsible for the spread of this technology, as they argue with videotape and everything else, then this is a serious section that has to be debated because it's very difficult to censor, should we censor, etc. Anyone who has a Yahoo! account or a Hotmail account will know. As soon as you get online, get one of those accounts, you see all those free things that come. I'm 18 and I can't wait to meet you. Come to my site and...
14:31🔗
Adam
In fact, one thing I would like to say about the Internet because it infuriates me that this never gets addressed in the very few debates that you see. But guys like the Reverend Falwell, who I've debated on numerous occasions, but people of his ilk, they are so quick to criticize the Internet and they never bother bringing up the fact that they're over 12, over a dozen different browsing mechanisms that will enable you to control the content that's available for your children. Because you see, the religious right realizes that they've lost this argument that consenting adults don't have the right to view whatever they want to in the privacy of their own home. So now what they're trying to do is muddy the water by saying, but look at their children. Well, we all know you can't limit adult reading habits to what's fit for children and you'll have nothing left but Alice in Wonderland or Red Riding Hood. Right. But they missed that point.
15:51🔗
Caller
Not much. I was just wondering, when you lose your virginity, do you have to come and shed the girl?
15:57🔗
Do you have to come or?
15:58🔗
Drew
No, just consider penetration. In fact, I think our crisis may be pertinent to you guys. I don't know, but the whole notion of what young people sort of conjure up as their idea of virginity is sort of determined individually, sort of randomly too. We have lots of callers that call in and say, well, I'm having anal sex with my boyfriend, and he wants to go all the way with me. Right.
16:26🔗
Drew
Yeah, we get a lot of that, and or they're engaged in oral sex or free. It's things that sort of used to come long after genital intercourse, are now considered things you do in order to preserve virginity. I think the notion of virginity really was, although it originally was an economic issue, was in modern times meant to mean chastity and issue. That is something that people do need to determine for themselves. But in terms of one point in the graph we can all point at is penetration, and that's that. If you've done that, everyone would agree you're no longer a virgin.
17:09🔗
Guest
It's interesting that men ask these questions and seem interested in preserving their virginity. I mean, when did that come about?
17:17🔗
Adam
I don't think Herman is interested in preserving that. Herman, you're not interested in preserving your virginity, are you?
17:41🔗
Guest
But I will say that the most asked question that I get in lectures about relationships is when people ask me how they can reclaim the virginity and what they mean is in a mental state, how could they sort of love someone as if it were the first time?
17:55🔗
Guest
They're also sort of haunted with a lot of images of ghosts past, and they feel that they just want to let go and not immediately compare their new girlfriends to their previous girlfriends. That becomes very difficult. When subjective love becomes objective evaluation. Yeah. You can fall in love.
18:08🔗
Adam
You have to hit them on the head with a coconut, right? Is that the only way to erase those memories?
18:14🔗
Adam
Larry, how's the penis pump working out? We talked about that last time you were in here. You know, a guy that did it for me many, many years ago, I just bumped into him the other day, and he says, some of the leading urologists are going to be out here on the coast. He says, we have made some phenomenal advances.
18:52🔗
Adam
Planted inside the scrotum is an old button about the size of a pea. You just simply mash down on that. When you mash that, there's a pump that's inside your stomach that inflates your penis.
19:08🔗
Drew
The last time I looked at it, now they're all self-contained. You actually squeeze the tip and the thing goes up.
19:13🔗
Adam
Larry, what if you get in the car fun and you're sitting on your nuts and the pump kicks in and your penis starts pushing through, you're panting out the sunroof? Couldn't that happen?
19:22🔗
Drew
It happens in real life. It sounds like a serious dilemma. It is. I think much of our mental energy may not have been struggling with trying to make this more like the natural fact and so there's the math class effect, the history class effect.
19:36🔗
Adam
The sweatpants day. The sweatpants effect, absolutely. I'm telling you, yeah, if I was a urologist, I wanted to restore someone's erection at this function. Here's what I do, forget about surgery, forget about drugs, put them in a pair of sweatpants and send them back to junior high. The penis will respond immediately. Ring a bell, have a bunch of 14 year old girls walk by with peachy folders. I know they immediately achieve an erection. Larry, how does the pump work though? Is it electronic? No. What is the button? Pressure. You have, say, implanted in the lower part of your stomach, which is what when you press that little device, implanted in the lower part of your stomach, there's a valve with fluid in it that opens and closes to fill the penis. You will actually stay erect as long as you want to. That erection never goes away until you press the pump to release. So why? If it ain't broke, then don't fix it, right? He just said you wouldn't believe the advances we've made. He said, I think you'd like to hear about it.
20:56🔗
Adam
Rabbi, you have one of the pumps for your yarmulke first. Is that true? You just squeeze it in, pull on your beard, yarmulke in place like a ramp. All right. What were you saying?
21:06🔗
Guest
When Viagra came out, a priest debated me about it and he was saying it was a very bad thing. He was saying that the beauty of old age is that you are released from the desires of the flesh and now you can contemplate love of God and things like that. Now because I am opposed to pornography, it doesn't mean I am opposed to sex. Sex is a beautiful thing and one of the things I am going to argue tomorrow, by the way, and I will say it until tomorrow, is that I think Larry really is a closet romantic. If you read his book, you will see why, but you will have to read the book. I said to this priest, I think that is true. I think it is a valid point, but I said to this priest, I assume therefore you are also opposed to dentures. Thank God when you get to a certain age, your teeth go and you can eat applesauce and not be consumed with the pleasures of the steak and now you can contemplate and love God. Sex is important at every stage in life and Judaism is seen as one of the most important aspects of marriage. When you don't have sex with each other, it is a functional termination of the marriage when you consciously desist from it. So, what Larry is saying is a serious subject and it is beautiful that he is able to have that within his marriage.
22:06🔗
Adam
Christian should have known not to argue with a Jew. Larry, you know you are starting off in a hole arguing with a Jewish man and the rabbi here is like a Jewish auctioneer. Why don't more Jews get into the auctioning world? They love to talk, they talk fast, it is not physical labor.
22:28🔗
Adam
My attorney is a Jew, I never won an argument with him, my doctor is a Jew, I never won an argument with him. I know, you never won an argument with a Jew in my life.
22:36🔗
Guest
Yeah, he says that, he says that, but I came in a jalopy and he came in a Rolls Royce, so who won the argument?
22:49🔗
Drew
We should be the one that is part of the fact that Jewish traditions tend to be sort of around alcohol, around food. Yes, that's true.
22:58🔗
Guest
Judaism is a very sensual religion and food is a part of that. Carrie, because drink numbs your senses.
23:03🔗
Hi.
23:07🔗
Okay, every female I know who's had anal sex does it afterwards. They fart a lot. I was wondering if that could be prevented if the condom was used.
23:21🔗
Adam
Sure. You leave the condom in, you got a nice fart balloon. People think your ass is an idea. I don't think the condom is going to affect that.
23:31🔗
Drew
No, I don't think so either. I think you're just irritating the area there no matter how you focus.
23:39🔗
Do you still get those problems? What? You still get those problems?
23:43🔗
Drew
It's not something that's- You get all kinds of problems out of it if you're not careful.
24:07🔗
Adam
Where were all the young Einstein's when I was in high school? That's my question. No, almost no experimentation going on. The experiment was how they could wiggle out of a date with me. That was the kind of experimentation that was going on. I want to kill myself and come back as a junior in high school. That is my plan. Oral sex going on all over the place, anal sex to keep hold of the virginity. It is a great time we are living in. People are peeing next to jeeps. It is a real utopia we are in. Where is the love?
24:42🔗
Drew
I wonder about the issues of degradation and how that figures into this. Either of you points to the audience.
24:50🔗
Adam
When we come back, we will speak to Ace. Christopher heard that if he drinks an Easter egg dye, he can change the color of the semen.
25:06🔗
We will be right back with more.
25:16🔗
Adam
And you are listening to Love Line on the Zone 105. It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Bad Religion will be in here later this week. Robbie Gordon, the race car driver and the Sandus band Everclear also later this week.
25:48🔗
Adam
Rabbi Schmuley Boteach and of course Larry Flynt. We are going to be doing a little debate tomorrow night at 7.30 at the Wilshire Theatre.
25:59🔗
Guest
We are going to give 100 free tickets. This is a debate on pornography and sexuality with specific reference to the internet. We are giving out 100 free tickets. You can call 310-441-9361. Say you are from Loveline. If there is only an answering machine, leave your name there and we will have the ticket waiting for you at the door. The debate is tomorrow at 7:30 p.m. at the Wilshire Theatre. It will be covered by the national media and it should be very interesting. Adam, do you mind if I throw a question to Larry?
26:23🔗
Adam
I want to also say that Larry's bodyguard is going to urinate on the first 20 feet through the door. Just to keep the routine going.
26:31🔗
Guest
You can also download the debate on Beliefnet. Beliefnet is the country's leading religion, ethics, morality site. They have about 10 million page views a day. Very interesting place. It is going to be broadcasted there, beliefnet.com. In Larry's book, he describes, and one of the things Drew and I are discussing right now is that what is refreshing about Larry is that he is very honest. Whether you agree with what he does, don't agree, and that will be our debate tomorrow. But he lays the facts on the table. He says that you say, Larry, there, that you really wanted to believe in fidelity in marriage, but that your first wife, Peggy, cheated against you and that broke your heart. You determined then that you would never again be faithful to a woman, which seems to indicate to me, that you believed in the idea of faithfulness, but someone had hurt you, and you decided that you weren't going to make yourself vulnerable anymore. But you have your wife here tonight, and it's the second time in a matter, and she seems like a very sweet woman. So I just wanted to ask you, has your view on faithfulness in marriage changed with your...
27:27🔗
Adam
Well, you know, I was just a kid when that happened, and obviously, sex is much better with someone that you love. But often we confuse sexual passion with love, and they're two different things.
27:52🔗
Adam
And I think most people in America view their sexual attitude and preferences as something private. What goes on between consenting adults who really, you know, their own private business, regardless of all kinds of advice that you might have or I might have or other commentators, as Dr. Drew, these people are ultimately going to make the decisions as to how they want to live their life. You know, the religious zealots have had their hand on their crotch for over 2,000 years and the government is exceedingly moving in that direction, a feeling that if they can control our pleasure center, they can control us. Other than the desire for survival, the strongest single desire that we have is that of sex and you are just simply not going to be able to harness something so powerful and be able to dictate in a personal way to the people in a way that they want to accept it. So whatever they're doing, if it's legal, it should be their business.
29:15🔗
Adam
All right, let's get to the phones. In the second hour, Dr. Drew and I are going to square off with a debate with Producer Ann over why we have to work on God damn Easter night. That will be again coming up in the second hour. Should we be working on Easter, Drew?
29:41🔗
Guest
I think that maybe you should be in here, but the rest of us who have any kind of relationship should not be.
29:53🔗
Adam
I love Passover because you sit around and eat. I call it Passover. You eat a lot of food and you sit around and break wind.
30:05🔗
Adam
That was yesterday's Jew. This is today's Jew. We eat lots of brisket and potatoes. As I said to a caller who phoned in last week, I said that she loved me. Her only problem was that she was very religious and that I was anti-Jesus and I said, I'm not anti-Jesus. I'm pro-Satan. There's a difference. Right, Larry? Thank you. Christopher.
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Hey.
30:36🔗
Caller
I didn't know Larry was going to be on the show, but I just thought of a question while I'm lying here.
30:44🔗
Guest
Been looking at it for a couple of years now. Golden Shower, not too big a fan of, but I was wondering what's going to be like the newest or latest trend in pornography that you see coming up pretty soon.
31:04🔗
Adam
Sexual attitudes continue to evolve. There's only so many ways you can kill a tomato. But Larry, isn't part of the problem is you have to keep pushing the envelope. You have to keep going. I mean, if you take a look at what was going, being passed off as pornography, let's say 40, 50 years ago, it's not even a temple. Today we're already being called gynecological muscle. How much farther can you push?
31:36🔗
Adam
But isn't, let me interrupt the rabbi here and say, in all aspects of life, it just keeps going. I was watching the NBA playoffs today. Guys are doing things that guys couldn't have dreamt of 20 years ago, 30 years ago in the league. I mean, you look at a sport 40, 50 years ago, a bunch of little guys, no jump shot, no monster dunks. I mean, look what's happened to skateboarding, look what's happened to everything. Pornography, it just keeps going and going and going.
32:06🔗
Drew
What's interesting is you're pointing out mechanisms that all involve or evoke thrill. Right. It's in that realm that we seem to be totally preoccupied. If you look at human biology, thrill mechanisms tend to create biology that helps people deal with unpleasant feelings. The more intense the thrill, the more euphoric the diversion. Right. I just wonder if the reason where a market is coming up to meet the thrill need is because we are so empty. We can't modulate. We don't have the real human connection that makes us feel okay.
32:41🔗
Guest
Let me just reinforce that for a second, obviously. It's like a drug. The beauty of a drug is, for people who take drugs, is that it gives you an instant high. The problem is that it's ephemeral. As quickly as you go up, you drop down and you crash.
32:56🔗
Guest
But it works temporarily and it only addresses the surface personality. It doesn't address our deepest and our most needs. That's why it becomes addictive. Because it's thrilling and yet empty, I have to continually indulge in it in order to sustain the high. It's like a balloon that needs helium to continually push it up.
33:11🔗
Adam
Well, let me agree with you by saying it's why you eat so many of those fat-free chips. You never get full. You go through two bags of those goddamn chips because there's no fat in them. You just keep going. It's empty. All right, go ahead. I had a little snacking metaphor to make.
33:28🔗
Guest
Opposite reason why when you eat matzah you don't want to eat any more. Because matzah is the food of a slave. It doesn't digest. The matzah I ate last year is still somewhere down in my stomach. When it comes to sex, the beauty of sex is the more you plan it and the more you try to push the envelope, the more you try to have this outrageous sexual interplay, the less satisfied you are because sex is satisfying specifically when you don't do when you just are. In other words, sex is pleasurable when you put yourself on autopilot. It's when you submit entirely to instinct. Great sex is where you can't control what you do. You light a fire, the bird's out of control. What's happening with all these kids who are calling up saying, I tried anal sex, I tried this. They're trying and it's dissatisfying because it's something they do rather than something they are. Sex is where you take all the inhibition away, you remove all your defenses and you allow your soft underbelly and that's why it's pleasurable. Everything in life where we're evaluated, we try to do, we know we're being measured is not pleasurable. Like taking a test or sitting in front of a job interview. Whenever you do something where you're totally natural, like with your friends having a drink, that's pleasurable. Sex, which is natural, is pleasurable. The problem that I have with pushing the envelope is, it's people who are so dissatisfied with sex that they'll do anything outrageous thinking this will finally give me the thrill, but that just leads to more and more outrageous experimentation. One final example, studies show that womanizers, the guy at the JFK, alleged womanizers, all of the biographies written by his alleged mistresses, like Judith Campbell Exner said, although he was the sexiest guy, he was a terrible, terrible lover. Sex lasted two minutes.
35:00🔗
Guest
The reason is that he didn't have to renew himself. Whenever his sexual repertoire was exhausted after two minutes, when he got bored, he found another woman instead of finding deeper levels of the same woman. That kind of intimacy, I think, which is what also breeds love. You know what? Larry says the same thing about, and I don't mean to be painful here, God forbid, but the way you describe your love for your wife, Althea, you basically say that with everyone else, you were having impersonal sex. You also say that impersonal sex was a way of distracting you from the pain you had experienced in previous relationships. But with her, you use the word soulmate. She was a soulmate and it was much more satisfying. You even say there that there were other women who were much better in bed than she was, and yet the sex with her was most satisfying because you loved her.
35:42🔗
Adam
That's very true. Alright, that's a good place to hop back on the phone. By the way, Larry's poor wife Liz is sitting in the next room. I hear the rabbi wax on about sexual indiscretions, never being faithful to a woman again, the sex never went better, the woman was a good ex-wife.
36:03🔗
Guest
Liz is a sweet woman and I bet Larry is a very good husband and so he appears. But this is a book that exists and it's a very fascinating book. People should really read it to be honest.
36:13🔗
Adam
Anyway, so you think you can drink Easter egg dine that's going to turn your semen different. My girlfriend and I, yeah. And then the kids can all look for it out in the yard. Is that what you're saying?
36:40🔗
Drew
My girlfriend said that she had a girlfriend and one of her boyfriends did it. They're all getting good laugh now though.
36:50🔗
Adam
Thanks, guys. Hey, listen, if one of them does that one where they ask you if you want a Hertz doughnut or if your hand is bigger than your face, it means you reach hard and then they whack your hand while you put it over your face. Don't fall for that. All right, buddy.
37:20🔗
Caller
Hi. Yes. My question is, I just separated from my wife at the beginning of this year, and now I like my sister-in-law. Well, I've pretty much liked her from a long time ago, and I want to know what I should do, if I should go for it or what.
37:47🔗
Guest
He separated. Now he's attracted to his sister-in-law. Does she know about your attraction?
38:14🔗
Adam
Okay. If you head down to Gardena, to Larry's new casino, he will not have a chapel there, but he'll have a divorce attorney, which is a new twist. This would be a good idea, Larry. You can take this idea instead of the Vegas chapels. You have the divorce attorney, just a guy, probably one of the rabbi's friends, who sits in the corner and just gives people an old man's seat.
38:38🔗
Adam
Yeah, why not? I mean, there's probably more people looking to get divorced at a casino than there are to getting married. That is a solid plan. Larry's not impressed at my point. All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Dean. He's 21, got drunk, and dry-humped a gay guy. Now, he's chafing. Yeah, wants to know what to do.
39:08🔗
Adam
Your weekly tourist study class, right? All right, we'll take a little break, and we'll be back with Larry and the Rabbi after this. By the way, good sitcom idea. Hold on, Drew, get a pen and pencil. I want to tell you about this idea during the break. Rabbi and the Pornographer. Larry and the Rabbi. Make a good tip.
39:28🔗
Adam
What do you say? First episode, you guys get in a big argument, you split the condo right in half. You got to stay on that side, I got to stay on this side. Fine, have it your way, then a minute later, Larry's got to use the bathroom, all right? But the Rabbi won't let him use the bathroom because it's on his side of the thing. So Larry finds his prayer hat, one of those big brimmed hats, the Hasidim wear up and down, and he craps in it. That's already the first episode, we already got a winner. All right, we'll take a break, we'll be back.
40:04🔗
Drew
This is Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew. Stay tuned for more Loveline on the Zone 105. This is Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew, and you're listening to Loveline on the Zone 105.
40:27🔗
Adam
It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Larry Flynt and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach are our guests tonight. They are having themselves a little debate. Well, a little one here tonight, a big one tomorrow night at the Wilshire Theater, which I'm guessing is on Wilshire, otherwise someone is going to get fired over there, which is right in West LA, sort of in Wilshire, Beverly Hills. Yeah, it's a nice theater, right in Beverly Hills on Wilshire. Come on out and watch the sparks fly. 730 and Rabbi, give that number out again for the first 100 people who call this number. If they haven't called already, they can get free tickets.
41:18🔗
Guest
310-441-9361. 310-441-9361. People will call here as well, I guess. We can give them some tickets. People are calling for questions.
41:28🔗
Adam
Producer Anne was shaking her head no, because she feels like work. She's like a pain in the ass. I mean, how are we going to facilitate that?
41:41🔗
Adam
Okay. But what about, is this an 18 and over thing? Should kids come out to this thing? I mean, there's going to be some frank language and some discussion here, right?
41:52🔗
Guest
I don't see, and maybe Larry will feel differently. I don't see it's going to be that explicit. There are some very important issues to debate. I mean, Larry's been through all the great debates.
42:01🔗
Adam
I don't know about the rabbi, but I don't think I'll have anything to say that I wouldn't care that any teenager heard. No, you don't care, but I mean, would the parents care, I guess, is the question. I don't think so.
42:14🔗
Guest
Yeah, and the same here. I think it's going to be, that's why I want to give away these 100 tickets to your Loveline listeners, because I think it's important for them to hear it. I mean, if we can get anyone to think more deeply about sexuality, about the issues, like what you're doing here on the show, that would be very rewarding, and that's why these debates are important, to generate light and not just heat.
42:32🔗
Adam
During the commercial, the rabbi revealed to me a secret weapon he's going to use against Larry if he's losing the debate late in the 12th hour. His yarmulke is actually a blade.
43:04🔗
Guest
By the way, it is going to be on beliefnet.com. Remember, you can follow the debate on www.beliefnet.com.
43:14🔗
Adam
All right, DJ. Well, after your exploits with the gay dry humping, we may just call you DJ. So, what happened?
43:23🔗
Caller
Gay guy at my work through a party. We were there, had a few drinks. He was showing me around the house, and up downstairs in the basement. He touched, grabbed my thigh, kissed me. I've had quite a bit. So, for me.
43:43🔗
Caller
No, not normally. That's what was weird. All of a sudden, we just started thrusting a little bit. And then, you know, one thing led to another.
44:11🔗
Adam
Or are you just trying to get at a scarf collection? Yeah. You know all gay men collect scarves. I don't have to tell you that. How come there's always one gay guy at every office? Do they just actually bring him in? You know what I mean? Like the boss announces, here's the token gay guy we have to offer. We have to employ him. I'm not sure what he does.
44:41🔗
Adam
All right. So you went to the party, you ended up in the basement, you made out, you kind of enjoyed it. Now you're questioning yourself a little bit.
44:48🔗
Caller
There's some chafing down there. I had the badges off and there's like a... It's a little chafe down there after that hour long.
44:59🔗
Adam
Well, let's just say you replaced a gay man's leg with a lamppost. Wouldn't you still have the same chafing?
45:27🔗
Adam
He doesn't really have a question. All right, Dean. You're definitely gay, I think. Here we go. Daniel?
45:44🔗
Caller
Last time I tried to break up with her, she ended up in the psych ward for suicidal threats.
46:09🔗
Adam
You're a religious man because my spidey sense is tingling a little bit. I dare you. Wait a second.
46:17🔗
Adam
No. But if you notice, my partner, Dr. Drew, wrote down that he's gay before the part where he said he had never had sex before. Are you sure you don't like the fellas at all?
46:30🔗
Adam
I bet you could find something you liked in this studio. We got everything. We got it all here, boy.
46:35🔗
Guest
Are you trying to find out how you can sever the relationship without her being more distraught?
46:42🔗
Adam
It's an interesting question because it puts a lot of responsibility on you, especially if she's as unstable as she says she is.
47:12🔗
Caller
I was under psychiatric care, but I'm not anymore. I haven't been for about three years now.
47:26🔗
Adam
I see. All right. Drew was getting a very strong vibe from you the minute you started talking. Hey, Daniel? Yep. It seems like you're in over your head with this one. Do you have a counselor or somebody that you still talk to?
47:46🔗
Drew
Or maybe even talk to the people that are trying to help her so they can facilitate this breakup? Because continuing a charade like this is not going to help her be healthier.
47:57🔗
Adam
All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Linda. Linda?
48:15🔗
Adam
All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll be back with Larry and the Rabbi and Linda, the 17-year-old threesome queen after this.
48:43🔗
Adam
105. It's the Lovelines. We're going to take a quick ten second timeout. We'll be back with more of the program in just ten seconds. This is Loveline on Radio Sputnik.
49:15🔗
Adam
It's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Bad Religion coming up later in the week, Robbie Gordon, race car driver and everclearer later in the week, all as well. Larry Flynt is our guest tonight, also Rabbi Schmuley Boteach. Schmuley is not as a Jewish name actually, Jake. Big Jake is his Jewish name, but he was affectionately...
49:46🔗
Guest
Well, Schmuley is actually a contraction of two words. Schmuley comes from the Hebrew word shimu, meaning killer well, and Lee comes from the Hebrew word Pamela Andersonly. You put them together, you get larger than life Jewish sex symbols. So I see that jealousy raging in your eyes.
50:03🔗
Adam
I'm not going to let you out of this room. Way too much competition from the Rabbi with the ladies. Tomorrow night, 7.30, speaking of competition, Larry and the Rabbi are going to be going at it at the Wheelchair Theatre right there in Beverly Hills. Come on, come on. We're going to hop back on the phones. We'll get to Linda. Linda is 17. She had the threesome, right Linda?
50:32🔗
Oh boy.
50:47🔗
Adam
Hold on. We are going for our money. Hold on a second, Linda. We are doing some gambling, all right? You got to be honest with us, right? Okay. Hold on. Boy, this is going to be tough because I'm sure the rabbi doesn't carry any cash and Larry only does.
51:03🔗
Adam
Larry deals only in gold bullion. So, do you have like, I don't know, a hundredth of an ounce of gold or something? Can we shave some of the gold up when you're to bloom?
51:14🔗
Guest
The last time I was with Mr. David Larry on Fox, we were blinded by his watch. I mean, you take one of the little particles out of the watch, that will cover it.
51:31🔗
Adam
I don't want to be insensitive, but when you're in a wheelchair, where do you hide the wallet? I mean, does it go in the top pocket there? No, in the bodyguard. How he carries it? He says, I'm overdue for good ass-kicking, by the way. All right, now this is going to be tough between the rabbi and Dr. Drew, who has some Jewish blood in him. I fear that I'm going to have to put another buck up. No, I think it's going to be... All right, so wait a minute. Rabbi, you put a buck?
52:03🔗
Adam
Didn't you say he didn't put a dollar up there? He has a change maker that the ice-free man wears. Usually that's in nickels.
52:16🔗
Adam
Drew, get another dollar out there. What's your... For Christ's sake, I'll put one in for the rabbi, you put one in for Larry, and here's what we're going to do. By the way, Larry, is that a new Rolls you got out there? It's very nice. It's a new Bentley. Yeah, that's turbo. That's...
52:32🔗
Adam
Yeah, what's that thing set you back? About two and a quarter, something like that? No, it's 365.
52:55🔗
Adam
I used to own Rolls Royce's all the time, but boy, that Bentley Turbo is ten times the car that Rolls Royce has. Wicked. Wicked car. Tons of, you know, I mean, 400 horsepower.
53:08🔗
Adam
I drove a Salad Shooter over the show. It's a moped that's actually powered by a Salad Shooter. Thank you.
53:16🔗
Adam
Well, hold on a sec. I want to find out real quick about this... The car... .this Bentley. When you buy a car that's $365,000, you don't lease it, do you? I always do. You lease? Yeah. Because this is going to be funny. Now, what do you pay a month on a car that's $365,000? About $8,000 a month. $8,000 a month. And at the end of the lease, I just buy the car out and then I... No, I trade it down on my new one, you know.
53:43🔗
Guest
You do realize that Larry and I agreed that if I win the debate tomorrow, I get the car.
53:56🔗
Adam
All right. Now, here's how the gambling works on this show. We gamble on our caller's past, not the present, not what they're doing today, but what kind of environment they grew up in. And Linda over here, who at the ripe old age of 17, thinks it's a good idea to have a threesome with two guys. She's either dating a date... And an ex-boyfriend... .one and an ex-boyfriend, and is fairly cavalier about the whole thing. That leads us to believe there were some hijinks in their past. Now, could the dad was an alcoholic, dad could have been sexually abused or sometimes the smart money is just on everything is fine and she just got a wild hair up her. So we'll start with the rabbi. Rabbi, what do you think?
54:45🔗
Guest
This way I can win the pot without having to be specific. I think that Linda may have experienced some abuse and that women who are abused typically demonstrate male-oriented sexual tendencies. For example, they are very easy to separate their emotions from their bodies so they will engage in casual, commitment-free sex and especially here I see you are really trying to subconsciously take two guys off each other because she didn't just choose two strangers. She chose two men who want the object of her aggression.
55:13🔗
Guest
Sexual abuse which led her to take her heart, put it into a little closet and say, you could have my body. I'm too young to protest but my heart is mine.
55:45🔗
Adam
All right. Larry, what do you think? From listening to her voice, I believe that she's a very adventurous young girl. That's not an evidence. Okay. So is what she feels living her life to its fullest. All right. So no abuse, no wholesale abuse, just a free soul, free spirit. All right.
56:19🔗
Adam
Now I know why doesn't Campbell his own money. And Drew, what do you want me to go? All right. I'm going to go with no sexual abuse, divorced early, parents, no contact with dad. Dad was a little boozy before he left the house. Maybe they're a stepdad or boyfriends, not great guys, neglected, no physical or sexual abuse, just sort of a lot of neglect by men and abandonment issues with men.
56:54🔗
Drew
I get the neglect thing too strongly. I'm going to say, raised in a household early, that was really just chaotic, like dad was a heroin addict or something, taken out of the home, put in foster care, and that's it.
57:37🔗
Guest
You know, I won $4 for that small compensation. Let me just say that, Linda, you know, when Sigmund Freud, when he put together his theory, and so many women came to him in Vienna, said we were abused, his theory was that they only thought they were abused. Based on that, he built psychoanalysis. It turned out-
57:59🔗
Caller
Well, I found my mom's student files and I found out that way. Then she put it on the doctor's notes, and it popped up and she didn't know. She's like, oh my God, she found out.
58:15🔗
Adam
Wait a minute, Linda, let me just ask you a couple of questions before Rabbi starts talking about Jung for 20 minutes. Your dad is where now? He left. When's the last time you saw him?
58:37🔗
Caller
Well, he lied and said the court took it away from him or something. But in reality, he just decided not because he didn't want to pay.
59:00🔗
Adam
I see. Maybe you can set her up when you're ex-boyfriends. And so, according to these documents that you saw, your father sexually abused you at some point.
59:13🔗
Guest
Have you ever had a dream that you're either naked or even dressed, but you're sort of out in the street and you're knocking on doors and people answer it, it looks just like your home, but a stranger answers it? Anything like that?
59:30🔗
Guest
Yeah. I mean, a lot of people who've experienced sexual abuse later have these strange kinds of dreams.
59:39🔗
Adam
You know, one thing that bothers me about this is, you know, if she's saying she's abused but she can't remember it, I find that troublesome.
59:56🔗
Drew
Well, before the age of three, it's real difficult to remember stuff like this. This happened when you were very young, is that right?
1:00:35🔗
Drew
He raped her. It's sort of the typical pattern is then they will go get another child raped.
1:00:40🔗
Guest
Just a word of advice on this whole thing. What often happens to girls when they are molested, whether they are consciously aware of it or not, is that they compartmentalize their hearts and their bodies. They sort of say, look, I'm little, I can't protect myself, but you can have my body, but you'll never have my heart. Later, they go into these cavalier, casual relationships exhibiting a typical male sexual drive where they'll have two guys and they're almost trying to demonstrate through their sexual activity, I'm not vulnerable to anybody. I can play you guys off against each other. I can have sex with both of you. I'm impervious, I'm an island, I'm a rock. What you need to do is sew your body and your heart back together again. That's what's going to lead to wholesomeness. Basically, male genitalia is on the outside and a lot of guys treat sex like an out of body experience. I'm doing something to somebody else and they can take their emotions out of it. But the female genitalia on the inside, it's almost an invasion and you want to feel close and loving and trusting of the guy you're with. You really have to do some healing and that means reclaiming your innocence.
1:01:39🔗
Adam
Hey, Linda? Alright, so I do agree with the rabbi there. Now what are you going to do? The first guy's... I mean, alright, here's what I'm going to say, Linda, because we're spending too much time on this. Something bad happened to you, allegedly. You're certainly acting out on it now as if it did and can you just stop acting out?
1:02:27🔗
Adam
Well, that's true. He gets the... I got a dollar back. Are you paying you back? Yeah. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I lent the dollar to the rabbi. You lent the dollar to Larry. I'm taking that.
1:02:38🔗
Guest
Can I now do a deal where I offer the remaining three bucks to Larry for the watch? A little deal. I've thrown a signed autograph book as well.
1:02:46🔗
Adam
How much is that watch worth, Larry? Do you lease it or do you... This watch is about $100,000. I've got one that costs $750,000. I only wear on special occasions. I bought it at the PSJA factory in Geneva, Switzerland.
1:03:07🔗
Adam
Five years ago. What are we, Chopped Liver? I went to the factory and I've seen them making this phenomenal watch, a huge diamond baguette and I asked about it and I said, well, this watch is being made for an Arab oil sheet. So I said, well, why don't you make it? Because they only make one of a kind. I said, well, when he finishes it, can he make me one?
1:03:52🔗
Adam
Yeah, but he's so far away with his gate and his sprawling property, he doesn't hear them. I hear my garbage guys.
1:04:00🔗
Adam
Larry, what time does your mail show up? Do you know? I don't know. That's the beauty about being Larry, doesn't know when the mail shows up. Michael? Yeah. Hey, Larry, do you have any porno in the car I can have for the ride home? Yeah, sure. Okay, I got to the car. It's a little bit of a tradition. I call it the walk of shame. Michael?
1:04:41🔗
Caller
Okay. My left testicle, it's really been in pain for the last couple of days, and it's been spreading to my lower left abdomen.
1:04:52🔗
Drew
There can be a lot of different things, but most seriously, it can be a torsion of the chest. It can twist, the blood supply can be cut off, it can necrose, die, and become a medical emergency.
1:05:05🔗
Drew
It just happens in some people's spontaneous. It can also be infections and things, and inflammation in that area. But the important thing is that a doctor looks at it as fast as possible.
1:05:44🔗
Guest
How do those two things go together, the genius statement and a whack off statement? Is there some intrinsic connection between them?
1:05:49🔗
Adam
I believe there is. As a matter of fact, it was funny. I was talking to Danny Ash who is a big boob queen. I was dealing with Larry in a fabulous Busty issue.
1:06:02🔗
He is a big boob queen?
1:06:12🔗
Adam
I spoke to her over the phone on Friday. I was talking to her and I was talking to Larry's lovely wife Liz, I believe, about doing something with his publication for The Man Show, etc, etc.
1:06:33🔗
Adam
Don't worry though. Larry, I know where my real friends are. That will prove Hef didn't want me to do it, but Larry, Larry welcomes the good publicity I will bring to his publication. The thing I like about Larry is people don't know, they always think Hustler with Larry, but they don't think Busty, and many of the other I think 37 or so.
1:06:53🔗
Adam
Yes, Yachting, a bunch of computer magazines. So anyway, I was talking to Danny Ash, who's this Knockout blonde with a huge rack on her, about helping me out with this, and she said, that's fine, and she said I could log on to her website, and I needed to choose a screen name so that she could put it in her computer, so that I could log on for free because this is how she makes her money. And she said, what would your screen name be, or what would your code name be, and I said, I'm going to Jack Off, that would be my name, because every time I go on a computer, I mean, let's face it, and she said, well, it's too many words, so I said, IGJO and she went, IGJO it is.
1:07:37🔗
Adam
Right, so now everyone can just log on as a Jack Off. Yeah, I'm going to Jack Off, yeah, check that out. Thank you. Say I love the kids. Becky?
1:07:49🔗
Caller
I want to know if condoms worked in the water, like if you're going to have sex in a pool or jacuzzi or something, would they work?
1:08:00🔗
Drew
I've heard some concern about the heat in the jacuzzi after too long a period of time, but in general, there's no specific problem with the condom in the pool other than keeping it on.
1:08:18🔗
Adam
Can't you guys just do it on a lounge chair? Do you have to get in the pool with the condom?
1:08:41🔗
Guest
There are two people saying, you know, a question about how we're going to fall in love, stay in love, how do we maintain passion, romance, and a relationship? How do I sweep a girl off her feet? Should I write her a poem? Should I pull a serenade to Bergerock outside her window? How am I going to make her swoon, make her melt or something?
1:09:13🔗
I don't bleed all the time.
1:09:32🔗
Drew
Don't worry. It can be a normal thing. Sexually activity can stimulate bleeding in some moments.
1:09:38🔗
Adam
I don't bleed when I masturbate, but the crucifix I have hanging on the wall, that'll bleed on occasion when I'm masturbating. Very eerie.
1:09:47🔗
Adam
Tears. Constant tearing, but occasionally some bleeding about the ankle and wrist. All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. Thank you. Larry's trustee bodyguard just ran out to the Bentley and grabbed me some pornography.
1:10:03🔗
Guest
On the subject of Larry's publications, we were discussing off air, all of us here in the studio, that there is this great sort of desire for-
1:10:11🔗
Adam
Asian fever. Is this one of your publications, Larry? You just have that floating around. No, it's one of my publications.
1:10:18🔗
Guest
I see. Wow. It says there is a desire also for intimacy. Larry, you're a businessman, you've been very successful. Are you going to come out with a magazine in which I would participate, a serious magazine also about relationships, giving advice to people that want to know how to, and all the questions that I get or people like Drew get?
1:10:32🔗
Adam
I'll tell you, all the demographics indicate and I believe me, I know I had 25 years not only in publishing but in magazine distribution business as well, and when I started in business 25 years ago, there was 1,500 magazines on the newsstand. Today, there's over 4,000 and everybody is buying for a full cover display where you can only have a few magazines on a given newsstand. So what the retailers will do is they will relegate you to obscurity unless your magazine is selling and the problem is although you have a good idea and there will be a market for it, the market is not large enough to really sustain you in the marketplace.
1:11:22🔗
Guest
Look at the... I'm the matchmaker in chief for these websites called matchnet.com, americansingles.com. One of the amazing things is, it's not just porn that's flourishing on the internet, it's matchmaking, people who really want to find a serious relationship.
1:11:36🔗
Guest
Most of these sites are very serious. On americansingles.com, you can't be voyeuristic, there's no nude pictures or anything like that, and the market is huge.
1:11:46🔗
Adam
Listen, I got three pages in the Hustler already, chick's taking a leak. There you go, I told you. All right, and I'm going to peruse Asian fever in the...
1:12:03🔗
Adam
Yeah, it's been over. It has been over. All right, we will take ourselves a little break here. Larry Flynt is our guest, also Rabbi Shmuley.
1:12:17🔗
Adam
No, I'll be going to the quiet serenity of the Westwood One bathroom with the Asian fever publication in hand. Drew, if I'm not back in time because I'm going for three, I'd like you to start the next segment. Okay? Fair enough? We'll be back.
1:13:00🔗
Adam
It is Loveline. Larry Flynt has something to say. What does that mean? I thought you were getting me over here for an hour. Oh, really? You want to go? You can leave after this break if you want.
1:13:17🔗
Adam
Of course. Especially with Bentley waiting for you. Now that he's got his magazine, he should leave now. Oh, yeah. You could have left 10 minutes ago when your bodyguard dropped off this pornography. Well, Larry, if you don't mind because I know you're busy. We do appreciate you coming in here. Why don't you just ride out this last break about another 10 minutes and then we'll cut you loose, and the Rabbi is going to stay here and do the overnight.
1:13:50🔗
Caller
Yeah, I was wondering if there's any way to decrease your libido or stop masturbating.
1:13:58🔗
Caller
Well, I'm a Christian and I really don't like to masturbate. But I find that I can't really control myself.
1:14:19🔗
Guest
I mean, this is an issue, I think a lot of religious people or even people who just think that sexuality is something that should be repressed. Not repressed. I don't believe in sexual oppression at all, honestly, and I'm not part of a tradition that believes in sexual oppression. You believe in sexual expression.
1:14:38🔗
Guest
Well, one of the things I quote in Kosher Sex is that an amazing statistic that husbands who masturbate in marriage have more arguments with their wives, which makes a lot of sense when you think about it because if you have a big argument with your wife, and often arguments lead to the best kind of sex because of the emotional distance that's been created and eroticism is always predicated on distance, you can either apologize to your wife and say you're sorry and make love and kiss and make up or you can go into the shower. So there's your choice. Often, masturbation becomes an excuse to avoid intimacy.
1:15:14🔗
Guest
No, at 16 it's slightly different. This is what I would suggest. First of all, don't get hung up with guilt about the whole sex thing. What you can do is just keep your head involved in things that are always sexual.
1:15:28🔗
Guest
No, it's not. But he's also saying, I mean, when we... This is the perfect music for me. When I was studying to be a rabbi, one of the things that was very important to us was study. And there weren't a lot of girls around. We did not date. And sure, we thought about women. We were natural and human like anybody else. But we really tried to put our head into the books. We did not feel guilty about our desire or our lust. And we didn't see a little devil hiding behind all of it.
1:15:58🔗
Guest
There are two kinds of guys, they say, women deny they masturbate, the other one who...
1:16:05🔗
Guest
That's right. But it is true that I felt that I could turn my head to pursuits that I felt were very important to me. And at the age of 16, it was the acquisition of knowledge. What I hear in all these questions that people are calling up about, and we discussed this off air as well, is that with all of these personal complications that people are calling in about, anal sex and oral sex and three boyfriends and three sons, for goodness sake, besides the sexual issues, the issue is where does anyone have time to study for goodness sake? When are you going to develop as a personality? The point is that adolescence is about the unfolding of your intellectual and emotional capacities. And if they are going to be stunted because all you are doing is putting up brush fires, if you become a forest ranger rather than a city planner, then you are not going to have the healthiest adulthood.
1:16:50🔗
Drew
Let me make a different point, though. If they have... He breathes. Yes, he breathes. I witnessed it.
1:16:56🔗
Adam
He takes a big shot off the oxygen tank during the commercial and then he exhales for 20 minutes.
1:17:03🔗
Drew
What about an argument that not masturbating would create such incredible tension that the guys can't concentrate?
1:17:09🔗
Guest
Yes. I am not sitting here. Look, I am a realist. So I am not sitting here saying, you know, turn yourself into a pillar of stone and never feel anything. What I am saying is, A, don't get guilt written about it, but you are asking, how can I reduce my obsession? And I am saying to you, everything is mental. I believe that our principal sexual organ is our mind and not our genitals. So keep your mind on the subjects which you feel are worthwhile at your age.
1:17:34🔗
Adam
I am going to tell him how to do it. Take the pressure off yourself with the religious stuff. He is obsessing about it. When you obsess, you do more. It is like picking at a scab or something. You have a zit on your forehead. You say, don't pick at it. Then you start focusing on it. Then you start focusing on not messing with it. Next thing you know, you are messing with it.
1:17:57🔗
Adam
I am dieting. I am eating. Yes, dieting is a great and rare good example brought up by my partner, Dr. Drew. The way you lose weight is you sort of forget about it but you don't dwell on it and that is what Jack is doing. So Jack, ironically enough named Jack, don't think about it so much and don't freak yourself out and I bet it will level out.
1:18:42🔗
Caller
I was talking to my friend last night and we were arguing about she was saying that if you are giving oral sex to a guy, there is a small chance that you will get pregnant. I was telling her, it is totally impossible.
1:19:05🔗
Caller
Yes, I was telling her because I was saying maybe there is a small chance you get like an STD or something.
1:19:11🔗
Drew
Yes, you can get STDs that way and the chances aren't that small, frankly, but no, you are not going to get pregnant.
1:19:53🔗
Guest
I have been wanting to ask this for a long time. Pot and birth control pills, it's bad mix, but what are the effects?
1:20:02🔗
Drew
Well, I wondered if it affects the effectiveness of the birth control pill, and I don't know that it does. I have been looking for some data.
1:20:11🔗
Drew
Yeah, although, you know, we do hear these people. I have not seen any pattern to suggest that it really affects the effectiveness of the birth control pill, though just about anything can, so it makes sense to me that it might.
1:20:24🔗
Drew
In terms of, well, I'm telling you that I don't know of any evidence that it does. And secondly, in terms of any adverse physical effects, no, there is no synergistic or additive effect of the two together. Each one has their own potential problem. Okay?
1:20:47🔗
Adam
Listen, we're sorry we took time out of your busy goddamn day to answer your crappy question. You need to clear up your attitude a little.
1:21:03🔗
Guest
You know, well, you know what? I have a lot of other things that I would like to go over, but I don't know how much time you guys have or how much you like to invest.
1:21:08🔗
Adam
Well, if we like you better, we might address another question, but we're not fond of you.
1:21:25🔗
Guest
Well, you guys usually, I don't know, I have things listed that you guys usually ask when you ask other people.
1:21:35🔗
Adam
Right. By the way, you have an ambulance driving through your living room. We know that's not a good sign.
1:21:42🔗
Guest
What the Rabbi said about heart and body, that they need to become rock and be wholesome, that speaks to me.
1:21:53🔗
Adam
Yes. Because it's weird because, and listen, I'm sorry for coming down on you, especially since you've been the victim of abuse. But you can get, even when you're being nice, there's a little hostility in your voice.
1:22:12🔗
Adam
A little bit angry and I'm guessing a man did you wrong at some point with this abuse when you're younger and it's in you. I mean, you can feel it on you. If someone has never spoken to you before. Always. Yeah. What happened?
1:22:38🔗
Guest
I would love to find him. I'm sorry. I would like to find this man. I look him in the eye and ask him why. But I know that there's no way.
1:22:50🔗
Guest
I would understand. There's no way I would understand his way of thinking because I know what's wrong.
1:22:56🔗
Adam
You can take a certain amount of satisfaction in knowing that either he was abused or he has a brain tumor.
1:23:02🔗
Guest
I have family members that have also been abused by different people. My biggest thing is that you see these people have family functions.
1:23:34🔗
Adam
Listen to me. What about your mom? Are you angry at your mom for bringing this world class A hole home?
1:23:42🔗
Adam
Why not? I mean, I know you're angry at him and you should be angry at him, but there are A holes all over the place. She found this guy and brought him home to you.
1:24:17🔗
Drew
Don't bring any predators around. Don't bring any guys around here. Because any guys you bring around are going to be predators. Seriously.
1:24:21🔗
Adam
If you get a dog from the pound, he's going to hump this kid. I don't trust your judgment. Her father what?
1:24:28🔗
Drew
Not alone with her. Not alone with her, Susie. Swear to God. Anybody you pick, just be careful.
1:24:49🔗
Guest
Financially, he's being made responsible. He doesn't see her. We've had that agreement.
1:24:58🔗
Adam
And hey, Susie, Susie, you love your kid so much, you can't be high all the time around her. Stop smoking the weed. Get off the weed.
1:25:11🔗
Guest
You need an emotional release. An emotional escape is not going to provide that release.
1:25:19🔗
Adam
Well, the good news is if she ever falls asleep smoking a joint bed, the fire department, which drives to her house every 10 minutes, will quickly extinguish the flame. You know what I was saying to someone the other day? How come you never hear about people falling asleep with a lit cigarette and lighting a mattress on fire anymore?
1:25:37🔗
Adam
It does not happen like it used to happen. It used to happen all the time. I mean, it was always-
1:25:46🔗
Adam
You would read the newspaper and it'd be like, what happened? Why did the apartment building burn down? Guy fell asleep smoking a cigarette.
1:25:58🔗
Guest
People don't watch TV anymore. They channel surf. They can't fall. They're always pushing the remote.
1:26:03🔗
Adam
I long for a simpler time when people burn down casinos and apartments and other buildings, falling asleep. I got something funnier than the burning bed.
1:26:15🔗
Adam
This was on the Reuters wire service the other day. This woman was in bed with this jockey and her husband comes in. So she convinces him to get out of the bed. Her husband is a really huge guy. So they start having sick for the bed, collapses on them, kills the jockey, no, but breaks his nose, you know, hurts him real bad.
1:26:50🔗
Guest
That story proves that there's a God. That's what Larry is saying. That was divine punishment. It was retribution.
1:26:55🔗
Adam
All right. Larry Flynt is going to get out of here. He's stayed 44 minutes longer than he wanted to. I want to correct one thing that I said earlier about Robert Shearer, who's moderating the debate tomorrow. He's a professor from USC, not UCLA. Oh, I said that one. I see. All right.
1:27:18🔗
Adam
USC is a much worse academic school than UCLA. Thank you for that correction, Larry. Larry Flynt, thank you very much for coming in. When all you kids go out there, get yourself a subscription to Yachting or a computer or a wild China woman, whatever strikes your fancy. You know, my 32 magazines, I published my second largest selling magazine as a magazine called Tips and Tricks with the average reading age is boys of 15 years. It's a computer gaming magazine. Oh, really? It's the largest one in the country. And that's number two and number three is Yachting Rabbis. Next to us, it's the most profitable. People never mention that because when they write stories about me, they're only interested in mentioning us. Well, I always explain that you have all those publications, but I'm only interested in Busty. We have to take ourselves a break. I'm guessing the rabbi will hang out.
1:28:43🔗
Adam
And you're listening to Loveline on the Zone 105. It's Loveline and Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Larry Flynt is rolled out of the building and into the Bentley, and the Rabbi is still left behind. Again, the big debate tomorrow night, 7.30, Wilshire Theatre. Bring the kids. And we'll hop back on the phones, Kavi.
1:29:31🔗
Guest
He seemed normal. We started dating. I realized he was not so normal. On a weekly basis, he changes his mind whether or not he wants the relationship.
1:29:41🔗
Guest
I don't know. I'll be done with them. I'll block them from calling me. I will brace myself and say, I am too good of a mind to handle this from somebody.
1:30:07🔗
Guest
He didn't abandon me. He and my mom were married for years and years and years before my mom passed away.
1:30:31🔗
Guest
Well, to make a long story short, every night that my mom was in the hospital dying, he would come into my bedroom and make me perform oral sets on him.
1:31:03🔗
Guest
Well, my mom passed away when I was 19. The first time she was hospitalized, I was 14. So it went on for a good five years.
1:31:09🔗
Adam
Five years. How is it that you go in and get oral sex from your own daughter and not at least have a few shots of booze in you?
1:31:19🔗
Guest
That's what I tried to tell you before. Freud thought that all these women were lying to him, that they were fantasizing about their fathers, but they weren't.
1:31:35🔗
Guest
Here's the thing. This is it in a nutshell. I didn't believe he was an alcoholic. My brother was an alcoholic. I witnessed it.
1:31:56🔗
Guest
And I came from a nuclear family. I mean, I never once saw my dad abuse a substance at all.
1:32:01🔗
Guest
Well, then deal with Adam's question. Weren't you surprised when your father came in while your mother was ill?
1:32:14🔗
Guest
Oh, yeah, I resisted him, of course. But I was shocked. I never thought it would happen. I mean, I was always like my mom's child. My dad kind of resented me for that. I was a spoiled brat growing up. I was the overachiever in school, and my dad resented that for some reason.
1:32:41🔗
Guest
Only when she was in the hospital, but it would be a nightly thing while she was in the hospital. When she was in the hospital, when she finally died, she got up to the point where she was in the hospital a couple of times a month.
1:32:50🔗
Adam
I could just see your mom going, I feel a spell coming on and you're going, Christ, you know.
1:33:03🔗
Guest
No. Well, I have two older sisters and according to him, nobody would have ever believed what I said because he raised two girls before me. They were not abused.
1:33:22🔗
Adam
I know, but listen, how can mom be an angel when she marries the devil? I never believe that. I know she has something to do with it. Someone is boozing. Something happened to mom. Well, who cares? The point is if you pick a guy, we don't like him and especially if he is a schizoid drunk.
1:33:42🔗
Guest
Let me just understand. How should someone make her find someone? She can't trust her own daughter.
1:33:59🔗
Drew
That is reparative. She is trying to repair something with that. But try to be a little more objective about guys, looking for guys that are going to be very slow with relationships.
1:34:11🔗
Adam
It's a fourth and fifth party. A nice Jewish boy would work. Good matchmaker. We'll take a break.
1:34:31🔗
Adam
And you're listening to Loveline on the Zone 105. All right. Hey. This is Dr. Drew and I have a rabbi, Rabbi Schmuley Boteach.
1:35:00🔗
Adam
Everyone, go check out the rabbi and the pornographer, Lock and Antlers and the Lock and Horns and Yarmulkes over at the Fabulous Wilshire Theatre in Beverly Hills. That's tomorrow at 7.30.
1:35:18🔗
Guest
You can read my stuff on americansingles.com and jj.com, which are Jewish and mainstream dating venues, and people who want serious relationships.
1:35:46🔗
Drew
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