0:22🔗VoiceoverAll right, all right, keep your shirt on.
0:24🔗VoiceoverLoveline's meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Here's Loveline from Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla.
0:45🔗Around the last couple of weeks, she's like kind of going out with my best friend. And Saturday night, we were all together, and I was with this girl that I'm seeing. And we went to the liquor store and we were kind of drunk. We got out of the liquor store and she was like...
1:14🔗AdamYeah, I don't want... I understand you guys are cool, but I don't want Christopher Walken calling in, you know, from his prison bed, you know, after just a good night of drinking and waking up in the drunk tank, you know. Just drop the dramatic effect and spit out the goddamn question. It drives me insane.
1:49🔗CallerMy question is, tonight me and my girlfriend went a little far, you know, we started having sex and, you know, we weren't wearing a condom and I didn't come inside of her, you know, I pulled out before it, but I was wondering, because I heard a myth and I don't know if it's true, that, you know, they can't get pregnant a certain number of days after a period.
2:25🔗AdamNow, most women, the prime spot is about, what is it, about ten days after they end their period. Is that basically how the math works out to be somewhere in there?
3:16🔗DrewSo you had an ex and you were drinking with your friends and you each had dates and your ex was with a new friend of yours and what?
3:24🔗CallerWell, she started kissing on me and stuff when we were all in and what's your, what'd your new date do? Oh, well, she wasn't around. We had, we had gone.
3:32🔗DrewWhat, what are her new, oh, I see the two of you went to the liquor store.
3:34🔗CallerYeah. So, you know, so then, you know, we're on our way back and she's saying how she messed up by breaking up with me and that she missed me in this mess.
4:56🔗CallerOkay, like my cousin, he like was sometimes on my aunt and they like, they go places, you know, my mom and my aunt and like I'm left home with him like, because I guess he kind of babysits me.
5:13🔗CallerAnd he like puts on like porn and all kinds of stuff like that. And he like masturbates and then he's like trying to like do stuff with me and he gets on me and stuff. And I'm just kind of like get away from me. What the hell are you doing?
5:53🔗CallerYeah, and he tells me, like, don't worry, we're not blood-related, so it won't mean anything.
5:58🔗DrewYeah, but Ryan, it's serious. Thank God. Ryan actually sounds well-adjusted. It sounds like she's managing this amazingly awful situation easily.
6:17🔗CallerThen he's like, come here. And I'm just like, no. And I'm like trying to go in the other room. So he'll like chase after me, kind of like grab me and stuff like that.
6:24🔗DrewYou know what you do next time it happens? You put you down 9-1-1. Seriously.
6:27🔗AdamWhen he's coming everywhere, is it like one of those three stooges pie fights where, you know, guy takes his head and pokes it around the corner of the door and, whap, no, then the fat old stuffy woman pokes her head up from underneath the table like she's laughing and pointing. Yeah, someone's got to laugh and point. Hey, here's what I've learned from TV. If there's a pie fight, a food fight or semen fight going on, never laugh and point because guess what? Coming my way. That's right. All right. So seriously, Ryan, he is masturbating in front of you. Why are you in the room? Why don't you go to your room and shut the door?
7:09🔗CallerI'll walk in to get some food because the kitchen's kind of connected.
7:15🔗CallerAnd I'll just be like, Oh, my God, I'm sorry. You know, like, go on. He's like, No, wait, come here. And I'm just like, No, it's OK. And I'll go away. And then he'll be like, No, come here.
8:31🔗CallerI think like, like because my mom, she had me when she was kind of young and she like had like, you know, parties for me on my birthday and stuff. But then like after I'd follow up, like go to bed or something like it would be her and her friends partying and she's like a good mom. She's not like a drug addict or anything like that. But then like she had a lot of guy friends and I think maybe one of them like probably did something to me when I was like, you know, because I think something did happen.
8:55🔗CallerBecause I thought about like sex and stuff like that at like a kind of early age and I thought it was like I was like curious about it and stuff like that but I never did anything.
9:02🔗AdamNo, no, no, but if there's something you...
9:06🔗DrewShe ain't got that special feeling. She ain't got it.
9:10🔗AdamAll right, but the family's a mess and the cousin, the cousin, my only point is is the cousin thinks it's okay to do that in front of her. That's what I worry about.
9:21🔗DrewThat's enough of the chaos. You know what I'm saying? That's the mom who's a-
10:09🔗DrewAnd you didn't do anything to bring this on. And if your mother blames you for this, that's when you call social services. Let me give you, I'll leave you a phone number just to, so you have some place to call should the unthinkable happen, that mom just dismissed this.
10:22🔗AdamYeah, the unthinkable has about a 65% chance of happening.
10:38🔗CallerYeah, I am. I have this sort of fetish. When I go down on a girl, I like throw the nibble or like bite on her clit or clitoris as you like to call it. And I'm wondering, will that be a problem in the future? I've been down on four girls.
10:59🔗AdamNo, that's just a healthy expression of love.
11:04🔗CallerWell, does it have to do like when I was seven to 10, I was abused as a child and my dad like left me. So does that have anything to do with it?
11:57🔗CallerI was wondering, my mom was diagnosed with multiple personalities. They said she had at least six. They couldn't find anymore, but they weren't sure. And I was wondering if it was like hereditary at all.
12:08🔗DrewNo. Why was that? What's going on with you?
12:11🔗CallerOne of my ex-girlfriends and my best friend had told me before that I acted kind of weird and that they thought I might have multiple personalities.
12:19🔗DrewI know no evidence suggests that is hereditary, but certainly being raised in an environment where mom had no consistent available connection for you as a set, you know, when they get any presence, that can have a lot of impact on your development.
12:37🔗DrewYeah. So no real mom, no real connection. And so intimacy and things like that can be very difficult for you. It's going to be hard for you to control and regulate feelings, I bet. To get out of control with your feelings sometimes.
12:50🔗DrewAnd so it's all about that. And if you can get stable relationships with friends who are really available, of course, you're going to pick a lot of chaotic and unavailable people. But if you can get some people who are around for you and you can take the time to make a real connection, you might be able to establish enough growth to deal with this and learn that through your relationships and through growing in those relationships, you can develop internal mechanisms to help you regulate these overwhelming feelings.
13:23🔗AdamCaller Drew, you'll be fine. You're young. You're asking all the right questions. You understand what's going on. I can just tell by your voice.
13:58🔗CallerYeah, I listen to it a lot whenever I can. But anyway, my problem is I'm having so much trouble just getting a date. Four or five years ago, I was getting tons of dates. I used to work at Disneyland and I would meet girls all the time until I got fired for sexual harassment, which is another story. Then I got hired at the Olive Garden and I worked there for about a year.
14:21🔗DrewI guess got fired for sexual harassment.
15:14🔗AdamSexual harassment at Lucky's? Hey, if you came proposition at a gal at a place called Lucky's, where can you? You know what I'm saying?
15:23🔗CallerYeah. Well, if I were still working at Disneyland, I'd be getting dates, but I'm not. I'm not working at Disneyland.
15:28🔗DrewYeah, because they're under 14. They don't really acknowledge what's actually happened.
15:32🔗AdamLet Lucky's. Let me tell you. I always shopped at the Lucky's growing up because we're poor. I want to kill myself every time I walked into that Lucky's. You go into Lucky's, you want a banana? That you can eat today? It don't exist. You actually have to fill out an order form for a banana and within three to six weeks, one will be shipped to your house that you could potentially eat within that month. I want to kill myself whenever I go to one of those places.
16:03🔗DrewBut Mike, so this pattern here, you have a problem with women, obviously.
16:09🔗AdamCome on, Drew. He's only had five jobs and five potential sexual harassment.
16:13🔗DrewDo you think that most people have sexual harassment accusations levied at them?
16:18🔗CallerNo, not most people. No. I mean, I've also had five relationships, one in 1994, one in 1995, one in 1996, and two in 1997. Well, five people broke up with me.
16:32🔗DrewYeah, there's something wrong, Mike. There's something wrong with the way you treat women. Something very...
17:44🔗DrewDo you see how non-attuned you are to women? It's like you have no sense that they exist as a person. Hold on. They're just these things you sort of...
17:55🔗AdamI can't tell if Mike is kidding or not, because it's so blatant and bizarre. Hey, Mike.
18:04🔗AdamNo? Has anyone ever asked you to consider going on any medications? No. But you understand that the life that you're leading is sort of directly attributable to your actions. I mean, you're not just getting fired from job after job or turned out... By coincidence... .for date after date by coincidence. There's obviously something you're doing that's bringing that on yourself, right?
18:32🔗CallerYes. Well, I'm not getting fired anymore.
18:50🔗AdamOK, so let's let's establish, you sound like a nice enough guy, a little crazy, but let's establish that whatever it is you were doing wasn't working. It was offending women. It was scaring women.
19:40🔗CallerNine out of every ten girls I try talking to.
19:43🔗AdamGood. I'd like to talk to the one that did give you the time of day. I'd have her committed immediately. I mean, Jesus, Mike, you're a piece of work. You got to get some therapy. You got to work on yourself a little bit. You're not ready to date right now. You got some issues.
19:58🔗CallerThe health club, that's training me at the health club, and I pay him $200 to go out with him for him to teach me how to get girls. But so far, the gains I've made from that have been de-minimized.
20:09🔗AdamMike, this is insanity. Half of what Mike is saying is true. That is just...
20:27🔗DrewHe is just living in his own little world.
20:30🔗AdamWow, I gotta get me one of them worlds. I mean, I'm in my own big world, but I like to get a little world. I like to live in my own world like Mike. You never know what's going on. People just fire you from job after job. You don't quite feel it. You know what I mean? You're like a dog. You know, when you step on the dog's tail, the dog doesn't know whether you're walking down to get a glass of water or whether you're punishing the dog. All he knows is like, hey, I got my tail stepped on. But that's okay because you rub his head and he's happy again. I want that kind of life. What do you mean? I think Mike's twice as happy as we are put together.
21:09🔗DrewThe outcome isn't quite there. If the outcome were there, he would be.
21:13🔗AdamI think this guy should be paying Mike 200 bucks to teach him how to live. Mike has to get some therapy.
21:18🔗DrewYou know, he should be in a group session as we can see how people, how humans react.
21:27🔗AdamWho felt each other up. All right, we're going to take a break. We'll be back.
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22:51🔗CallerGlad to hear it. Okay, my question is, I've been sexually active since I was 18, almost 19. And ever since then, even if I'm not like aroused or looking at a good looking guy or whatever, sometimes, I guess the best way to put it is I get wet, but there's no particular reason. Is that normal?
23:21🔗DrewIt can be, and that was not what happened before you became sexually active?
24:08🔗AdamBut then what if you became sexually aroused? Would it be that much more moist?
24:13🔗CallerNo, actually, when I'm actually intimate with a guy, I don't get wet. But I can just be sitting on the couch watching TV. And all of a sudden, I feel wet. And it's like, why?
25:06🔗DrewOkay. Well, you need to do that anyway, right? When you're sexually active, very important, women, young women get cervical cancer. You got to screen for that, okay? Okay. And let them see it. Maybe there's an infection or something you're not aware of that is contributing to this in some way. I don't know. It does not sound like anything worrisome particularly.
25:44🔗CallerI don't know. I always find my way in being a girl's best friend instead of being the girl I want to get with. Yeah. I've always been your best friend instead of trying to get with.
25:56🔗DrewCommonly referred to as the Corolla Syndrome.
26:01🔗DrewEspecially people who engage in these behaviors are particularly prone to home repairs and fixing the cars and detailing the cars of the women they're interested in.
26:12🔗AdamYeah. I've done a lot of detailing of women's cars for free. You know what's funny? When you become... Let's see. I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this. You sort of are what you think you are. And then later on in life, I mean, I was always, you know, really shy and I was a mess and, you know, I couldn't make a move on a chick and years would go by. I mean, I just shattered shell of a man. No confidence, no ability, no nothing. And then later on in life, at some point, I don't know how, but I figured it out. And I just became a different person. Right. And it didn't really even cross my mind.
26:55🔗DrewImagine if you didn't. Imagine what that'd be like.
26:57🔗AdamJust going through my whole life that way. Oh, I kill my, I would have killed myself. Oh, but I just mean like I'd meet some girl and I'd just be, hey, what's going on? Hey, what are you doing? Let's go out. You know, I mean, like she'd say no, but I had that momentum. I mean, I figured it out. I just became like a different, different person didn't really cross my mind. Well, it wasn't going to work out.
27:20🔗DrewRight. Well, I'm sure it must have crossed your mind. It's really actually worked out.
27:33🔗AdamBut what I mean is, is you become the kind of person that asks people out and they go out with you, or you kiss somebody and they kiss you back or whatever it is, and you just lead your life that way. And magically, other people sort of treat you that way too. It's sort of, it's no different than business or any other endeavors. You sort of act like you belong, act like you're one of these people. I don't mean act like it, but I mean think it. Feel it.
27:59🔗AdamAnd then guess what? You just do it. And everyone seems to go along with you. I don't know how you get to that point from where Joe's at, but I can tell you.
28:10🔗DrewWell, women don't like somebody who's not present. What do you say? If it's not a person present, they don't feel good.
28:17🔗AdamYeah, but this doesn't have to do with that as much as it just has to do with sort of low self-esteem on Joe's behalf.
28:25🔗AdamNo. I don't attribute this to lack of presence. It's just Joe's shaken. Joe has no confidence. Joe just looks at himself as a loser.
28:36🔗DrewHe has to stop. He has to also make a conceptual paradigm shift where it's he's no longer trying to meet somebody so he'll be their friend and get an inroad that way.
29:24🔗DrewYeah. It can have effects. It can throw off the medication you're taking, it can cause panic and depression. There's all kinds of stuff that you can do. You've got kind of a delicate chemistry. Plus, if you have a family history of alcoholism, in my experience, individuals with ADD who have a mom or dad or alcoholic are themselves prone to addiction profoundly.
29:44🔗CallerWell, no one in my family has been an alcoholic ever.
30:16🔗AdamYou're already on one medication. You already have, I mean, here's what I'm saying to you, Adam. You have a little bit of a disability with this ADHD. Not that big a disability. It's not like you're missing your legs or anything, but you got a little something going on. So you take some medication to correct it. Don't monkey anymore with the mind.
30:38🔗DrewAnd in 15 and under, we know there's a lot of changes that can occur from marijuana. Not single exposure, but repeated exposure can do some stuff. There's actually an atomic change.
30:47🔗AdamLook at it this way. You may smoke some pot. You may love it. You may have some momentum with it. And then you're screwed. Yeah. And you already have, you already got your work cut out for you. So don't smoke the pot. Give it a few years. Would you?
31:39🔗It's a test site. Anyways, I wanted to ask Dr. Drew and you two, Adam, a question. Sure. Basically, I'm 20 and I drink a lot. Basically, when I get home, I might have a six or 12 pack of beer when I get off work. It's been happening ever since I was about 19, I've been drinking.
31:58🔗AdamRight. Now, you're the ripe old age of 20, so this has been an on-going problem for what's been eight months? So it's getting out of hand. Yeah. So you're drinking like three cases of beer a week or something, right?
32:40🔗DrewWell, you're not likely to stop. This is the sounds like alcoholism and in fact, alcohol dependency. And in that situation, there is a profound drive present that even if you're able to control it and sort of stay away from alcohol long enough for those drives to settle down, there's still going to be a push to use alcohol. It's going to be something you're going to think about, you're going to respond to based on cues you see in your environment.
33:04🔗AdamWell, what's the difference between alcohol dependency and alcoholism?
33:09🔗DrewWell, alcoholism is the spectrum of disease for people who have a special reaction to alcohol. And if they expose themselves to it long enough, get develop a drive to use due to conditioning of the reward systems in the brain. If they use long enough, then they'll start to have withdrawal if they try to stop. And that's dependency. Right. So I'm saying you may actually have a medical problem when he tries to stop also. So it's unlikely you're going to stop without some sort of intervention. So why don't you give a call to AA or check the AA site out on the web, Alcoholics Anonymous, and see if you can't maybe connect with that. That's how people stop.
33:42🔗AdamWhat about as far as the dependency cutting down to like three beers a night?
33:46🔗DrewYeah, he will. He could do that for a while, but it won't last.
33:49🔗AdamBut then you could go cold turkey and not have the withdrawal.
33:52🔗DrewThat is true. But he was already saying once he starts, he can't stop.
33:56🔗DrewThat's a can. You have to understand about alcoholism. It's not a weakness. It's a very powerful drive that overwhelms normal thought processes and willpower. It comes from a very deep center of the brain. Tell me about it. Yeah, you know what it is.
34:09🔗AdamI had a glass of white wine in my hand last night because my can was too big to open the bottle of the red wine.
34:31🔗AdamYou know, they show those commercials where they bring that box of wine to the party and a bunch of good looking people, that real nice sort of Cape Cod type house, maybe something at the Hamptons and the women are wearing $2,000 designer dresses. If you show up at one of those parties with a box of wine, you get your ass kicked right back out on the lawn, a box of wine. And everyone's happy too. Hey, look at that. Hey, Larry brought a box of wine. Let's open that box of wine. That box of wine, that's like for the park, right?
35:05🔗AdamThat's not for the parties they're showing.
35:07🔗DrewNo, it's for the guys on the batch, the park.
35:12🔗AdamI got a stackable two gallons of wine right here, everybody. All I got to do is take a sharp popsicle stick, poke it through the top of another hole so it can breathe. And I just suck right off this baby. All right. Where are we going when we come back, Drew? Carl. Carl. Carl is 18. His girlfriend just went on the pill. Now she can't get around. He wants to know why. We'll tell him why after this.
36:11🔗AdamHey, there. It is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla, Dr. Drew over there, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Drew just brought up that we're doing a movie.
36:52🔗AdamAnd we're going to help Brooke and... What the hell is it? Christopher Atkins sinks. Good thing, Anne just closed her eyes, saw the poster up over the tub she put when she was 13 and went, yes, Chris Atkins. Yeah, he was hot wearing that loincloth. Remember that blue lagoon? That was a good movie. I don't know. I was a kid when that movie came out. It made sense, but it was kind of weird. It's like, hey, this 14 year old chick gets washed up with this 15 year old guy and they like start getting it on, you know, and they have a baby. And I don't know if they were related or I thought they were, you know, cousins or something. But the point is, is, you know, the big draw of the movie is, is, hey, we get to see Brooke Shields with a palm leaf in front of her tits. And this is going to be great. How did that sell go? I don't remember how they pitched that to our folks. I guess they talked about the money. But anyway, Brooke is doing a movie, I guess, and it's high time, and we'll be in it playing ourselves. Except for the dialogue will sound nothing like us.
38:06🔗DrewAnd that's always a pleasant experience.
38:08🔗AdamI don't want to sound like a prima donna, but as we all know, I am a genius. And I have not, in my five years in this business, have never had anyone hand me anything that didn't suck. And I've worked for talented people, other than people I've put together for projects. But I mean, they're-
38:27🔗DrewRight, because then they're sort of washed with your brilliance.
38:35🔗AdamBut no, people you like, people you want to work with, people you know are talented. But when you just go to some place to do something and someone hands you something, it's always bad. What is that, Drew? How does that work? You think it's bad luck or people that bad or how's it go? All right. Well, we'll make some alterations so we don't disappoint our fans, right, Drew?
39:01🔗CallerYeah. My girlfriend and I have been together for about nine months. We've been sleeping together for eight and we're using condoms for probably the first six months or so and everything was fine. You know, she had no problem getting aroused. She was wet. Everything was open. It wasn't a problem. She started.
39:23🔗AdamEverything was open. Well, I mean, for business or do you mean physically open?
39:27🔗CallerThe vagina. When she gets aroused, it opens up.
39:45🔗CallerShe started the pill here about a year or so.
39:51🔗AdamDrew's cracking up. Whenever Drew cracks up, I crack up. All right. I'm sorry. All right. OK.
39:59🔗CallerOK. So she started the pill maybe two months ago. And since then, I mean, there's been trouble getting her wet. And it's never been a problem before. I mean, before, you know, we kiss and it's just everything is going and there's just no stopping it. And I mean, we've gotten to the point where we use lubrication and it doesn't seem to help.
40:36🔗AdamWell, I know try means three, but that just means try three phases. It doesn't necessarily mean three different pills. Why? What are the other two? What are the yellow ones?
40:45🔗DrewIt's just different combinations of estrogen and progesterone. It's supposed to more normally mimic what your body cycles would otherwise do.
40:53🔗AdamOh, Drew, I'm going to kill whoever paged you. Who paged you?
41:30🔗DrewIn her case, it's shutting things down for some reason. I would definitely, she shouldn't have to tolerate that side effect just for contraception. So, she needs to talk to her doctor again. There should be pills out there.
42:26🔗CallerLike, I think, well, I don't know. I just feel like if I, I mean, I can, okay, my best friend, I do it all the time to him. And of course, you know, we're like best friends. So he like tells me when, you know, that I'm arousing him and stuff like that.
42:44🔗AdamBut what are you doing to him that's arousing him?
42:49🔗CallerTalking to him nasty and touching his like, touching his like arms and stuff, you know.
42:58🔗AdamYeah. And the problem is, why, why do you, how do you segue into the nasty talk? You just sort of get into it?
43:09🔗AdamAnd he, he doesn't really know it's coming, it just starts, right?
43:14🔗CallerWell, we're like, okay, we're, of course, we're teenagers, you know, and teenagers are curious and stuff. And basically the main like subject is sex all the time.
44:15🔗DrewHis brother. I don't talk to them anymore.
44:17🔗AdamI feel sorry for someone who's been raped, but when you say, my cousin raped me, and you say, how old's your cousin? And you come back with, which one? What? That's a certain kind of insanity. All right, we'll get to that. Listen, as a guy, by the way, never try to seduce anybody I didn't want to finish the job with. You know what I mean? Not interested in getting homely chicks worked up. Do you know what I'm saying? And Drew, you know what I'm saying, right?
44:46🔗DrewIt certainly doesn't make sense. I've never done it.
44:48🔗AdamAnd I don't know guys who've done it. I know guys, I mean, they wanted to screw somebody, maybe they were drunk, whatever, but they wanted something.
44:56🔗AdamYeah, I'm gonna get her panties in a bunch, and then I'll move on laughing. It doesn't exist. Guys don't have that gene. Okay, we'll take a break.
45:42🔗AdamHey, hey, hey, hey, Loveline. All right, we will take ourselves a little break just for 10 seconds and then we'll be back with more Loveline in just 10 seconds.
46:24🔗CallerI saw you in the Burbank Airport yesterday, and I would just want to let you know that you're more handsome in person than you are on the television.
46:31🔗AdamReally? Nice. I was in the Burbank Airport twice yesterday. When did I see you? At night or in the morning?
48:11🔗AdamUnless I'm, you know, have that kind of body posture that says, leave me alone. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Bye. All righty. Well, it's nice. It's nice when you get a call from the people. You know what I mean?
48:24🔗DrewAnd I like talking to people in the airports. You're always the one like, Drew, you don't have to talk to everybody.
48:43🔗CallerWell, a lot going on. All right. About a month ago, I was at a club. I was just dancing away, dude. And I met a chick and we exchanged numbers and stuff. And a couple of days later, I gave her a call and we got together and I went and picked her up and went down and watched a movie. And afterwards, we went down to the beach and ended up having sex in the back of my truck like that. Well, I mean, not a big deal. A couple of other times after work, I get off work at 2 30 and I would meet her at her house about 3, 3 30. And we continued to having sex maybe four or five times within the two week span. And then one of her friends, she told me that she was only 15 years old. And got into the club with a fake ID. And it was an 18 and over club. So I never even really thought about her age. She looks 18, no problem.
49:44🔗AdamDid you ever talk to her though about college or whether she's working or any of that stuff?
49:51🔗CallerNever. It was summer so she's off. And thought maybe college.
49:57🔗AdamYou know when you know somebody, well that's what I love about guys. You're banging away on them. You don't even know why they're last initial. But I mean.
50:07🔗AdamNo, I understand you're not looking for it. But I'm just saying you're 20. She's 18, 19, maybe she's 20. I mean, you don't know how old she is, but you're driving around going to the movies, driving to the beach or sitting on the beach for a while. Penny for your thoughts kind of stuff.
50:22🔗DrewYou know, he's got the laser beam going. He's got the eye of the tiger at that point.
50:27🔗DrewHe's not interested in actually learning about her.
50:29🔗AdamYeah, but just to get laid, don't you have to make that kind of small talk where you're asking about, hey, what high school did you go to? Did you grow up around here?
50:49🔗CallerWell, I found out and I went to her and I said, look, how old are you? And she lied and said she was 18.
50:56🔗DrewYeah, you're sure this friend wasn't trying to break you guys up?
50:58🔗CallerWell, I asked to see some ID or something. I said, okay, like a friend of yours said you were 15 years old. And no way I'm going to get stuck with a 15 year old. Well, she finally said, okay, like I'm 15. And she was like crying and stuff. And she like all messed up. And then I said, look, it's over. I can't do this. I'm like, I've got a good career ahead of me and stuff. I've been in the fire trying to get into the fire department and been working hard at it.
51:25🔗AdamAll right. So you can't do it. So what'd she say?
51:28🔗CallerThis chick is saying she's going to go to the cops if I leave her.
51:48🔗AdamI don't think. I mean, listen. You go to the cops. She goes to the cops. You say you met this chick at 18 and over club. Immediately, the onus, if I'm using that right, is on the club and not on you.
52:04🔗DrewWell, no, it's on him still, but the point is he has no obligation.
52:10🔗DrewI understand the club has some liability to be hit, but he has no obligation to say anything, frankly. The onus is on her to prove that something's happened and she would need a forensic examination to prove that they even had sex. If she hadn't done that, it's just her word against his.
52:23🔗AdamBut if you meet somebody in a place that says for adults only, and then you carry on an adult interaction with the person, hey, maybe it's, let's just say, forget about sex, let's just say it's beer. Let's just say you're at a 21 and over club. You met a chick at a 21 and over club and afterward you went out for a drink. Do you think you could be held liable for giving her a drink when you met her at a club that was over 21? I don't think so.
52:55🔗DrewIgnorance is not a defense, Adam. It's like saying, when you're speeding because your speedometer wasn't working, doesn't matter, you're speeding.
53:01🔗AdamNo, that's not the same example. It isn't. And I don't think any, listen, you could run somebody over and kill him. You're not going to do a day in jail. Nobody's going to prosecute this. He's not going to get in any trouble for this.
53:18🔗DrewI would think she'd have an incredible difficult time proving anything. She'd have to have had a forensic examination with a few hours.
53:23🔗AdamEven if she did, she met him at an overage or not an underage club, told him she was a certain age, and that was it. I don't think he's going to get in trouble for that. And she's not going to the cops anyway.
53:38🔗DrewNow, did we finish with Angel? Angel's the one.
53:44🔗AdamAngel tries to. Angel's problem is she's 15. She was raped by an older cousin when she was five. And he was like, I don't know, 15 or something. So that was horrible.
54:00🔗DrewWhat typically happens, Angel, when somebody's been through something like that, if they're a female, they tend to act out compulsively sexually in such a way as to gain positions of power over men.
54:11🔗CallerYeah, but I think these past few weeks, it's gotten worser.
54:17🔗AdamBut just... Listen, I'm no English teacher, but I believe it's more worser.
54:22🔗DrewAnd men who've been through this will often act out in a way to try to exploit females. So it's funny that women become the subjects of the victimizers. They both operate in the same dance after they've had the same history of abuse.
54:35🔗AdamAnything else happen in your life other than this?
55:42🔗AdamThat's nice. And who is the other guy who molested you?
55:45🔗CallerThat was, my sister had, my sister had a friend, and every day she'd pick me up from school and bring me to her house, and that was her brother.
55:59🔗AdamOkay, so how old were you when the molestation happened?
56:04🔗CallerThat was like nine, seven. That was when I was going through puberty, period and everything.
57:14🔗CallerThe other one, I think it was 10, 11, 12.
57:18🔗AdamWell, how old is your, okay, I'm going to figure this out right now. Your best friend, the guy you tease and taunt until late, how old is he now?
57:30🔗AdamOkay. And so this guy did some stuff to you with this other guy, yet you remain best friends with him, and now you sort of tease him in a sort of veiled attempt to control him and regain some power?
58:08🔗AdamListen, here's a mental note. Never name daughter Angel. There's about an 85% chance you're going to prison within five years. All right, so everything's a disaster, right? Yeah. Angel, okay. So listen, sweetie, you've been through a lot and you're going to get pregnant. You're going to get screwed up. This is going to be a mess. You're going to continue the sort of mess that is your family if you don't sort of get hold of things. So just stop acting out. You got to get some counseling for the rape. You have to be proactive. You have to do something. If you just sit back, here's what I want to say. If Drew just sat back at 15, he would have still ended up going to some Ivy League school. If you sit back, you're going to be doing snuff films in a year and a half. I mean, that's where your course is heading. You can't just sit back with your background, your biology, your history, what you've been through, your family. You just put on cruise control and you'll be cruising right into the sewer. I guarantee it.
59:18🔗DrewYou need to work on it minute by minute.
59:19🔗AdamYou do need to think about it and you need to work at it.
59:24🔗CallerBut the thing is like the seducing thing is like a really big problem for me.
1:01:42🔗AdamAnd you're adrenaline's pumping. Your heart's beating. And, you know, they've got these new guns with these big, you know, hoppers on top of them and they're semi-automatic and they... You don't have to put these little CO2 cartridges in them anymore. They have these, like, 3,000-pound PSI little tanks that they super fill and everything. And basically, you just go blast away all day. And I was at a paintball store a couple weeks ago, and they got the guns. You know, it's funny about the... You know the part about life that I like, Drew? They make a pair of, like, specialized shorts.
1:02:24🔗AdamYou know, it cracks me up, though, cause it's like, explain to me... I've seen the snowboarding shorts. Explain to me the big difference between the paintballing shorts and the snowboarding shorts, and then just the shorts the guys are wearing down at Venice, and then the shorts my Uncle Lou wears, you know? But I love the fact that there's a specific piece of apparel. And by the way, there's a special sunglasses made for everything, too. There's sunglasses made for guys who hunt ducks, there's sunglasses made for guys who fly planes, there's sunglasses made for guys who fly those model planes, paintball, there's paintball sunglasses, everyone makes their own sunglasses. Same sun, different application. Much different when you're looking at a duck, or looking at a model plane, or looking at a paintball.
1:03:11🔗DrewAnd, I mean, how about your appearance, I mean...
1:03:15🔗AdamYeah. Oh yeah, yeah. You're trying to achieve a different look when you're shooting paintball as opposed to flying an airplane or something like that.
1:03:22🔗DrewOf course, you're trying to camouflage yourself totally differently when you're hunting duck than persons.
1:03:26🔗AdamThat's right. That's right. But I'll tell you, that paintball is a good time. I gotta get back into that. But when you get shot with a paintball, it hurts. It hurts a lot, right?
1:03:38🔗AdamIt leaves serious, it leaves a serious well.
1:03:42🔗DrewListen, people get knocked in the eye with those things. It can damage your eye.
1:03:45🔗AdamOh yeah. You have to wear goggles. Anywhere else, it's just, you know, if you got hit like right in the rectum, I think that would hurt. And the head of the penis could be a little rough too. I would wear a cuff.
1:03:56🔗DrewHow do people get inside the anus and get you in the rectum?
1:03:59🔗AdamYou don't have to go to the bathroom when you're like bivwhacking and some sniper comes up on you. You know what I'm saying, Drew? I know the games are only like 10 to 15 minutes long, but hey, you got to go, you got to go. What are you going to do, stop the game? No. You just find yourself a bush and you get busy and a guy comes up underneath you. That's it, right in the anus. Okay. All right. So what should he do? Is he going to be all right?
1:05:01🔗AdamTonight will be the reunion. It'll be like me and my hand will be spinning around in slow motion in a big field of clover.
1:05:11🔗CallerHey, I need some advice, dude. My girlfriend and I just recently started experimenting with some sex toys like handcuffs and edible gels and vibrators and things like that.
1:05:29🔗CallerOh, I don't know. I think it's because she's trying to enjoy those and it's taken away from some of the other stuff, I think. And I just need, like, what's a really, really good way to kind of tell her gently without making it sound like, like, well, I don't want to come off sounding like...
1:06:28🔗CallerNo. Actually, no, they don't. They didn't even like me listening to Loveline, but, you know, I'm just, you know, what the hell can they do?
1:06:33🔗AdamWell, once in a while, when you're pleasuring yourself, you think about a guy, right?
1:06:37🔗AdamNever. Okay. So, she's getting into all these things. You find it, you're a little put off by it. It's like, hey, I'm not good enough for you?
1:06:52🔗AdamAnd I know what you're saying. Guys have these sort of fragile egos this way, which is on one hand, they're excited, they're up for anything, but they do want to be the initiator. And when a woman pulls something out and says, hey, this is good, in a way, some guys can be put off by that. And I think it's just a matter of degree. Some guys will like it, some guys won't, and then there's sort of everything in between. But you don't like it, and I don't think you should feel threatened by it. It sort of sounds like you feel threatened by it.
1:07:24🔗DrewYeah, that's why I'm picking up. It somehow overwhelms you. It's too much.
1:07:50🔗DrewToo much. All right. It's too much. You try to find a way to tone it down a little bit. But you got to be honest with her, and you have to tune in to what you're actually feeling and not be vague about it, because she's going to take it as... It's going to be not pleasant for her to have to be told the things that she feels comfortable doing that is good for her. Just, hey, cut it out. Yeah. Because we're going to feel like something wrong with her. It's not that. It's just too much for you, and you're just not quite comfortable.
1:08:16🔗AdamYou know, I know people talk a lot about those edible underwear and panties and the gels and all that kind of naughty, erotic stuff. Never my cup of tea. The whole thing with the gel and the, you know, I'm licking this off you and I'm eating that, I'm eating the underpants off you and that kind of thing, didn't sound like a great, just didn't sound like a great plan. There's just never anything in it for me. You know what I'm talking about, Drew?
1:08:51🔗AdamI mean, sure, if you're eating the panties and they're on, you know, Claudia Schiffer or something, fine. But in that case, let's just get rid of the panties and get right, right to the right to the nougatie center of the candy. You know, I mean, all that stuff is good, provided it's on somebody. But then if it's on somebody you're really into, you just want to kind of get rid of it and get to it. And then all that, that angle of, well, you've been married for 45 years. And after your wife had that goiter removed, you know, some of it, this is a way to bring the spark back and, you know, she's...
1:09:28🔗DrewHow could it be when it's not good on Claudia Schiver?
1:09:32🔗AdamYeah, I mean, that's my thing too. It's like, now I have this chick, she's covered with hair and stretch marks and I hate her. And we've been married for too long. And now I'm going to breathe some life in this relationship by licking some boysenberry syrup off her nipple. I didn't understand that either. I thought I think it's a movie thing.
1:09:51🔗DrewWell, women are kind of this stuff too, right?
1:09:54🔗AdamI do think women a little more than guys. Guys that do it because like, all right, honey, if you like it and it gets me laid, then we're both happy. And I don't know any guys that are into it.
1:10:05🔗AdamOkay, good. The vibrator. Now that's a whole different animal there. I'm not including that in this conversation. That is my bread and my butter. It's mostly my butter.
1:10:16🔗DrewPut your hand behind your back and say we're jealous.
1:10:26🔗DrewWe're going to take. We've been feeling abandoned lately.
1:10:28🔗AdamDon't listen to him. We're going to take. Oh, smells sexy even. I'm going to spray perfume on my hand tonight. Okay, we'll take a little break. And when we come back, we'll speak to Monica's 18, who's been having sexual thoughts about girls. She wants to know if she should pursue them or not. Well, I know Drew's answer is yes, but I'll figure out mine after this.
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1:11:27🔗Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline.
1:12:25🔗AdamThey're like sweet, flaky noodles. I like Thai food because it's like, going to a Thai restaurant is like eating an abazaba. It's all sweet. Everything is sweet.
1:13:25🔗CallerAnd I don't know whether like if I should proceed them or not, because I don't know. I just think it's like, you know, like I, it's not my thing. You know what I'm saying?
1:14:16🔗CallerJust like sometimes like with some like around like girls who I'm attracted to. But I mean, I don't like, I guess I'm not open like with myself.
1:14:26🔗AdamHave you ever had an experience with a woman at all?
1:15:16🔗AdamWell, listen, there's- Let me see. Let me figure out how to put this. There's this time in life. There's a lot of stuff you end up doing that you're not ready to do. Okay. I'm trying to figure out how to articulate myself. What I mean is, whatever you end up doing in life, oftentimes, there's a point when you're not ready to do it, and at that point, you're not ready to do it. You don't obsess on it. You don't think about it. Then you fast forward, and there's a point where you're doing it. You've already done it. Whatever. It's a moot point. But there's that point where you're sort of on the cusp, almost in whatever endeavor, whether it's a relationship or education or a job or whatever, when you're sort of on the cusp. And maybe Monica's on the cusp. Maybe this is just the point where she has both feelings, and it's kind of 50-50, and then she'll cross over into Lesbonia. And eventually, the border will just be a distant path, a distant memory, right?
1:16:17🔗DrewShe could contact Gay and Lesbian Youth Center. Those are places where she can go for resources to talk to people who have been through this kind of thing, maybe clarify what she's going to do.
1:16:23🔗AdamOh, they're going to try to win her over.
1:16:47🔗AdamOh, you want Susan on? Hold on. Drew's lovely wife, Susan, is stopped by the studio tonight in a very rare visit. Very rare and alarming visit. Shouldn't you be calling before you come by? You don't know what kind of state of undress I could be in in here.
1:17:18🔗AdamI wish I could put her on hold. Drew, don't just start talking to people in other rooms because they're not listening. No one knows what we're talking about. Then everyone just sits around and looks at me like a trooper. Yes. And it never works out. I love you too, Adam. Thank you. No, Susan, it's nothing personal. You're doing fine. You're talking to the mic. Drew, talk to Susan.
1:17:41🔗AdamHold on, Susan, don't stand up in between syllables. Wherever the mic is, stay by the mic. I'm fine. All right. And no, no, no, stand up. Lean forward.
1:18:24🔗AdamYeah. Well, because I think she looks at me as the disciplinarian of the family. Right. Drew's too easy. I mean, you already got him whooped.
1:18:44🔗AdamIs Drew, should Drew, I tell Drew, I got to be honest with you, Susan, I tell him every once in a while, listen, you got to, you got to stand up to this woman. You got to train her a little bit. Wouldn't you respect him a little bit more?
1:18:56🔗AdamI got to be, I got to be honest with you. I don't want to get Drew in trouble, but this porn star, she sent over a bouquet of flowers, you know, over to the studio.
1:19:06🔗AdamUh-oh. Drew, no, you're fine. Listen, I swear to God, you sleep over at my house tonight if there's a problem. This porn star, okay, here's what goes on. Jenna Jamison comes in the studio on, let's say, a Monday night. And I've known Jenna for a while, and she's a big porn star. And we're sitting around, and we're all talking during the commercial break. And Jenna's getting into her family and her past. And Drew gives her a couple words of wisdom. You know, seek a little counseling. I think her mother died when she was young.
1:19:41🔗AdamShe had a bad upbringing. You know, what a surprise. She's in the porno business. Drew gives her a couple of tips, okay? The next day, and they made out, the next day, no, they didn't make out. The next day, a bouquet of flowers arrives from Jenna in a note that says to Drew, thanks for the talk. I appreciated it. I said, that'll look nice on your coffee table there, Drew.
1:20:06🔗CallerSo that's where the flowers came from? No, no, no.
1:20:10🔗AdamDrew says, no way am I bringing those flowers home. Why not? Well, you know, Susan will tear me a new A-Haul. I said, no, she won't. This is a nice bouquet of flowers. This girl, she dropped the 80 bucks. I mean, that's like 30 seconds of getting screwed or blowing some guy. I don't know how it works out. I don't know what they get an hour. But the point is, is she plopped down some hard earned money. You got a nice bouquet. You just go home and tell Susan that this is a gift. It was sent to me. There's no big deal. Get over it.
1:20:40🔗CallerAnd I'm sure she was really thinking about me.
1:21:00🔗AdamI told him, you take this bouquet home, you put it down, and if Susan gets bent out of shape, you tell her to get a handle on herself. This is no big deal. Somebody sends me some flowers because I talked to them.
1:21:50🔗AdamAnswer the question. Answer the question. Would you have been mad at Drew for bringing those flowers home?
1:21:58🔗CallerNot if he said he bought them for me.
1:22:00🔗AdamAll right, but if he said one of our guests gave me these flowers and I'm bringing them home. And he said, Jenna Jamison, the porn star.
1:22:08🔗CallerI would say, oh, I'm sorry, I don't understand.
1:22:12🔗AdamOkay, so you would have been mad. All right, Drew is right. Drew said he ain't dealing with it. He gave me the flowers and I took them home.
1:22:20🔗DrewI said it would be hurtful to bring them home. That would be wrong. I would have been considerate of her.
1:22:26🔗AdamNow, Drew said, Drew, to be honest, Drew said, listen, Susan, she's a busy woman. I'm not going to put her through this and I'm not bringing them home. And I'm not stirring anything up. He's a good boy. You know what I mean? I hope you take that the best way possible. I do. But the point is, is you have them very well trained. That's all I'm saying. Now I said to Drew, Drew, you take those goddamn flowers home and you make a stand. You show her who's boss. Now is your time to make a stand. Drew said he wanted to pick his battles and this wasn't one of them. My God.
1:23:03🔗AdamAll right. I would have come home and I made a statement with those flowers, Drew. That would have been me. But that's why Susan likes me. Because I'm dangerous.
1:23:13🔗CallerRight. And that's why I'm with Drew.
1:23:17🔗AdamWell, you just met him first. That's all. Give it time. All right. Shut that mic in there, and where are we here, Drew?
1:23:33🔗AdamYou can't get in trouble for that, can you? No, she's fine. Okay. Listen. And you just come out smelling like a rose because someone sends you some flowers. You go, no, I'm not bringing them home.
1:23:47🔗AdamI took them home. I gave them to Lynette. I was like, here, honey, that's, that was from, for Drew from the porn star. She's like, oh, great.
1:23:57🔗AdamThat's as close as it gets. All right, we'll take a little break and we'll be back after this. Drew over there, sister, wife, and brother-in-law are leaving the building. Susan, she got a lot of energy. That's the difference between me and you. Like, she's like a whippet, you know? And you know what I want? I want like a blood hound. Like one of those dogs that just naps on the porch while that guy drinks moonshine. You know, like times the tail. I can hear it through the door. The tail moves, you know, as my rocking chair leans back. That's really like the only movement of my mate.
1:25:08🔗DrewThe tail gets out of the way of the rocking chair.
1:25:12🔗AdamThat's what I want in a woman. I want her to get her tail out of the way of my rocking chair. Just lay there on the porch. That's what I like. I don't like energy. You know, it makes me nervous.
1:25:23🔗DrewWe've noticed that. Me and the listeners.
1:25:26🔗AdamI swear to God. Go in there and tell your wife to be quiet. I can hear it through. Wait, wait. Let's see if I can hear. Yeah, that's producer Ann doing a wonderful job of producing. Standing outside the door, yapping it up. There you go. Yeah.
1:25:54🔗CallerI have been going to a psychologist for about a year. In between that time, I went away to college. There have been a lot of things that happened at college. One of the worst things that happened was I got involved with a very emotionally unstable guy.
1:26:28🔗CallerWell, he and I were together for about a week. We were, quote unquote, friends for a long time after that. Basically, he would hold the things I said to him over my head in exchange for sexual favors, things like that.
1:26:47🔗AdamOkay, but this has to go far beyond this brief relationship with this guy.
1:26:53🔗DrewSo we have to put yourself in that situation.
1:27:03🔗DrewDo you talk to the therapist about that?
1:27:04🔗CallerNo, and that's my problem is I've talked to her about how me and my mother don't get along, and that's kind of the issue that we're facing.
1:27:11🔗DrewI have such a hard time understanding, how can you go to therapy for a year and not talk about such a critical period of your development?
1:27:40🔗AdamCame in second. Yeah. If I have kids, I'm going to have to kill, who would their cousins be? My nephew?
1:27:48🔗DrewRight, the kid that's alive, your sisters.
1:27:51🔗AdamOh, those? Oh, jeez, they're cute. Jesus Christ, I got a hard time putting them down. Oh, well. You gotta do what you gotta do. What are you gonna do? All right, Erin, so, and where's your dad through all this?
1:28:29🔗AdamPeel an Erin like an onion. Yeah. You know, if Erin was like a test pilot, she'd make a horrible test pilot. They'd lay in the plane and want to know its characteristics, and she'd say, a little shimmy on takeoff and tail section blow off. That's right. That's right. Oh, yeah. Erin, you got a lot of stuff going on here, sweetness, and all stuff that you should talk about within the safe confines of your therapist's office.
1:29:02🔗DrewYou gotta... Just like Adam's gotta talk about his masturbatory habits.
1:29:07🔗AdamMasturbatory? What habits? I've gone cold jerky for the last...
1:29:46🔗AdamFive days before today. You understand? At 12, actually at about 1:13 a.m. this evening, I will be celebrating my five day anniversary of not masturbating. You know what kind of run that is?
1:32:31🔗AdamDon't rush. Don't worry. It'll all just come to you. And you don't have to worry about kissing a guy. The guy will kiss you. You just hold still.
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1:33:31🔗DrewAnd well, here we are. It's Dr. Drew and other Loveline in the can. I want to thank everyone for participating in the show. Anderson, Lisa, and thank you for helping us so much this evening. My illustrious nefarious partner is racing off to a meeting, a appointment with destiny. His reunion with his faithful hand. I just to see him start up here. He couldn't wait to get out of here. I mean it. Do you see that, Ann? Yeah, he's running out to his car. It kind of scared me. Well, in any event, and in homage of Adam and good luck, sir, and I hope your hand is delighted with the reunion. I'm glad to hear that everything's going well. And in Urana, we will say mahalo.
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