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Loveline

Monday, April 17, 2000

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Guests: Frank Stallone

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1:58 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised.
2:07 Voiceover Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew.
2:09 Voiceover I'm not modeling anymore for the two of you.
2:12 Voiceover Loveline.
2:13 Voiceover Yeah, it's a Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Tonight our guest is Frank Stallone and Frank, I got to tell you, it was about two months ago, the Man Show, which is another fabulous show I work on. And by the way, I heard a tape today of Jesse Ventura doing his weekly radio show. He did about 10 minutes about the Man Show and that was the best show on television. But I'll bring that in tomorrow night so you have a good time with that.
2:48 Frank Stallone Oh, I have to hear that. I like Jesse.
2:52 Adam We were on a little Man Show, Riders Retreat in Santa Barbara, sitting at some rib joint, putting down some beers and Staying Alive came on the television. And when the big musical number came on. Now, remember I was singing a couple of nights ago, Drew?
3:08 Drew Oh, yeah.
3:08 Adam You had no idea what I was talking about?
3:10 Frank Stallone What a moment that was.
3:18 Adam Yeah, and we had the whole place going, Tony Barber, there you go.
3:23 Drew That has hit record written all over.
3:26 Adam I had our writers were all singing and like pounding on the tables. I sure we were drunk and high on barbecue ribs, but it was a good time.
3:36 Drew Well, thank you for the compliment.
3:39 Adam I'm hoping maybe we can do a duet before the night is over.
3:43 Drew Yes, absolutely.
3:45 Adam So let's talk about what we got to plug and then we'll talk about anything else we want to talk about. Sunday WB 9 o'clock Movie Stars is the name of Frank's show. And Frank, why don't you explain it to us?
3:59 Drew Well, the show is based on I play myself on the show and then there's Joey Travolta plays himself and Don Swayze. And it's based on Harry Hamlin is kind of a potpourri of my brother Arnold and Bruce Willis. So he's in kind of an overpaid action star. And his wife is the thespian like a Meryl Streep. And he gets paid a lot of money. And he has a brother that went to Juilliard and is you know he just has degrees at the yin yang. But he's his gopher. You know he gets his coffee and stuff like that. So he commiserates with us over card games. And we're always trying to scheme how we're going to get over. But we've all the three brothers have all had a career making movies. You know and he hasn't. So he commiserates with us. And we kind of pick on everybody.
4:45 Adam Now Don Swayze, you and your brother look alike. You could argue over which one of you is better looking. But there's certain similarities there. And Don Swayze looks too much like Patrick Swayze. Really? He looks like beyond. He's like Patrick Swayze ate Patrick Swayze. And then had a dessert full of Patrick Swayze. He's like Patrick's evil twin. You got to see Don Swayze. I know you work with him, you don't want to get any crap from him. But you know what I'm talking about, right? I mean, he is Patrick Swayze plus.
5:20 Frank Stallone Squared.
5:20 Adam Yeah, like, you know when someone's doing a political caricature?
5:25 Frank Stallone Right, right, right.
5:25 Adam And it's your opponent who's drawing it. And he makes every little detail that you have.
5:30 Frank Stallone Exaggerates.
5:31 Drew Exaggerates it a little bit.
5:33 Adam Yeah. That is Don Swayze. Yeah, they do. He's like, too much Patrick Swayze. It's like, what did you do with Patrick Swayze?
5:41 Drew And a bigger version, yeah.
5:42 Adam Yeah, it's bigger, scary Patrick, man. I mean, I haven't seen his mom or his dad, but they must just be just Swayze.
5:50 Drew I think out of all the kids, I think Don and Patrick look probably the most, Are they a bunch of kids? Yeah, I think they've got quite a few kids in the family.
5:57 Adam Don Swayze is super Swayze.
5:59 Drew Yeah, good guy, funny guy too.
6:01 Adam He is, and so it's you, it's Don and-
6:04 Drew Joey Travolta.
6:05 Adam Joey Travolta, now I'm not sure what, I'm trying to think what Joey Travolta looks like.
6:09 Drew Well, now he's all white. His hair's all gray now. And he's kind of thinning, losing his hair a little bit, which John is now also. But when they were younger, actually Joey, Joey, when they were younger, when they all had the thick black Saturday Night Fever hair, Joey was probably a little more rugged looking. Looks like a Travolta, but a little more of the rugged, rugged John thing.
6:32 Frank Stallone That's a pretty boy, yeah.
6:33 Adam Then how are, you talk to your brother, do you guys fight?
6:36 Drew Oh, we fight all the time.
6:37 Adam I never hear anything, I'd imagine you do, but now is he your older brother?
6:42 Drew Yeah, he's older, yeah.
6:43 Adam Oh yeah.
6:44 Frank Stallone How many in your family?
6:46 Drew Kids, how many kids? Six.
6:47 Frank Stallone Six children. Yeah. Wow.
6:49 Adam Yeah, we got a few kids.
6:50 Drew But yeah, my brother and I have had some fights. Actually, when he was training for Rocky III, I had moved out here from New Jersey, and like I told Adam, I had had some fights. And we were in the gym.
7:01 Frank Stallone Boxing fights.
7:02 Drew Yeah, we were in the gym, and he had this new headgear, like this kind of Diver Dan type thing, you know, covers your face. And we were just sparring, and I tried this old time one, like Joe Lewis with no padding on my face, and we were just moving around, all of a sudden, boom, he hits me at a left field. And my nose goes like, and I figured, oh, well, you know, he's just messing around. Next time, boom, hits me again. And then I went after him. So I go after him, I hit him with the left hook, and they're filming this, like, and it turns into a war. Now it's like we're kicking, punching. I mean, you know, smashing our heads in the turnbuckle, like two brothers would fight. So I was thrown out of the, I was banned from the lot. I was not allowed in the gym anymore. He said I cheap shot it, and we're showing the, you know, showing the playback. You can clearly see that I was totally cheap shot.
7:49 Adam You know, I've tried a few different head gears myself, and there's a sort of catch 22 of head gear, which is the more junk you put in front of your face, the more junk gets hit, and the shock just basically transfers to your head. So you want to, so you put, you know, you find one that has a big crossbar in front of your mouth. Well, the guy whacks the crossbar, and that goes in your face, or it just jolts your head. I've heard that they've done studies that the head gear does not really do all that much. It's mostly for cuts.
8:21 Drew That's what it was made for. It's cuts. Actually, it gives you a false sense of security because you've got three inches coming out from your head, so you're actually catching.
8:29 Adam Yeah, you've got stuff that you might be able to slip that's catching on to your head now, and you still get rattled. You just don't get cut.
8:37 Drew That's why in the old days, in the 20s and the teens, you'd see these guys, their faces weren't marked up, but they had ears like cab doors, like big cauliflower ears, because they were slipping punches. And the thing is, yeah, a lot of people think because you put a head gear on, like Adam was just saying, that it does not take away the shock, because you get knocked out real quick with head gear on.
8:55 Adam And it's just sort of more to catch, too.
8:58 Drew For sure.
8:58 Frank Stallone Okay, so both you guys have dementia in your future? Is that what Frank and I were talking about?
9:02 Drew Well, you know, I have had, I don't know about you, Adam, but I remember when I was training a lot in the old days, in the 70s, and some days you'd have some wars in the gym, they would be, you'd get like, yeah, man, drive the wrong way home. And you seem to get-
9:17 Adam Oh, for that day, yeah.
9:18 Drew Yeah, and sometimes when you're boxing a lot, you're real mellow a lot of the times. You ever find you were like, kind of, just like, yeah, man. Like, you don't want to fight anybody. You're just kind of almost like electroshock treatment.
9:29 Frank Stallone There's some data now that shows that concussion, they believe, this is not factualized yet, but that the injury caused by concussion may cause progressive injury in older age.
9:42 Drew Oh, yeah.
9:42 Frank Stallone Dementia. But, I mean, a single, and there was their correlating head injury in adolescence with dementia when you're 60s and 70s.
9:49 Drew Oh, yeah. Well, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was probably, I consider probably the greatest fighter that ever lived, when I saw him, he was like 68 years old. Now, he was one of the greats of all time. And he was like, hey, how are you? And, you know, they're all a little off, a little, not much, but a little. The next year, he was like in a wheelchair, just like drooling. Like Joe Lewis. It just seems at a certain point, Floyd Patterson now doesn't even know who he is.
10:11 Adam Yeah.
10:12 Drew It just catches when you get older.
10:14 Adam Jerry Quarry.
10:15 Drew Oh, Jerry.
10:15 Adam Got it in a bad way.
10:16 Frank Stallone Oh, is he out?
10:17 Adam He died.
10:17 Drew He died.
10:18 Frank Stallone He died of dementia?
10:20 Adam It's complications from a lot of boxing. Jerry Quarry really had a lot more will than skill, and therefore a dad who was sort of beating on him as well. And so he, you know, I mean, think about it. You're forced into fighting. You don't have the skills. You don't have the fluidity. You're not able to slip punches. You don't have that kind of defense. You can't get on your bike and skate like a guy like Ali or guys that had Sugar Ray Leonard or Sugar Ray Robinson. So it's just an over-domineering dad. And you go in there and you're taking a beating. I mean, I mean, Jerry Corey took a savage beating every fight.
10:57 Drew Yeah, the one thing he had, he had a great left hook and he could punch good. But again, he was five, ten and a half. That was the era he was fighting these big monsters.
11:06 Adam Yeah, he was 190 pounds or something.
11:09 Frank Stallone Ali, Frank was saying that they're trying to make it seem Ali has Parkinson's disease, which is, that's all, it's all boxing.
11:15 Drew I mean, look, I was at many of his fights and later on in his career, those Frazier fights and those Norton fights and those Shaevers, he told me after the Shaevers fight, after the second round, he did not remember where he was and that was a 12-round fight. So later on when his legs started going, he took tremendous headshots. But he just didn't get beat up in the face. But remember, he always took shots on the back of the head and the side.
11:36 Adam Yeah, Ernie Shaevers, he was a huge puncher.
11:38 Drew Oh, God.
11:39 Adam Sarah?
11:40 Yeah?
11:41 Adam You're 15. What's up?
11:45 Caller My boyfriend.
11:45 Adam Ernie Shaevers, by the way, not a Jewish name.
11:47 Caller Huh?
11:48 Adam Turns out. Go ahead, Sarah.
11:51 Caller My boyfriend is 20 years old. And I was just wondering if there's anything wrong with him because he's dating me and I'm so young.
11:59 Frank Stallone Yes. Yes. We don't know what it is, but there's something. Yeah. Something's up with him.
12:03 Adam He's flawed in some way.
12:05 Caller All right.
12:05 Adam All right. Do you suspect that yourself?
12:08 Caller Well, before, he dated other young girls, too. And I thought maybe there was something wrong with me because I was dating someone so much older than I was.
12:18 Frank Stallone You know, it's...
12:20 Adam Where's your parents?
12:22 Frank Stallone My mom?
12:23 Adam Yeah.
12:23 Caller She's in her room.
12:24 Adam I didn't even ask where dad is anymore. It's a moot point.
12:28 Frank Stallone Dad lives in the same town.
12:29 Adam Right. If you're lucky.
12:31 Frank Stallone Yeah. Look, it's pretty common. Well, I don't want to use the word normal, but most young women are attracted to older males for whatever that reason is. The problem is the Catch 22 is that any male that reciprocates that is disturbed and is objectifying you and abusing you. Really. It's not normal.
12:50 Adam Don't get pregnant. Don't have sex with him.
12:52 Drew It's like the 15, the 20 things were it. Now, if she was like 18 and he was 20, it just seems that it's almost that kind of adolescent. He's more of like could be in the Army or something.
13:03 Frank Stallone How about Sarah, the 15 year old with a 10 year old? It's a big five year.
13:08 Drew Don't get weird, Drew.
13:09 Adam If he hadn't gone AWOL, he'd probably still be in the Army.
13:11 Drew My father's 80 and his wife is 34.
13:14 Adam Really? Yeah. He's a Stallone though. He's a Stallone.
13:17 Drew It's different. He has a three year old son.
13:20 Adam Holy Christ. He's sired a kid at 77 or 76. 77. So when he was 76, you're saying his wife was 26?
13:32 Drew But he'd been with her 15 years.
13:34 Adam Hold on.
13:34 Drew So he's older than...
13:36 Frank Stallone She was 11?
13:37 Drew Oh yeah. Her father could be his son.
13:39 Adam No, wait a minute.
13:40 Frank Stallone Wait a minute.
13:40 Adam Really, do the math. Your father's 80?
13:42 Drew My father was born in 1919.
13:44 Adam Okay. So your father's 80, 81 years old.
13:48 Drew And his wife is 47 years younger than him.
13:51 Adam 47. Okay. And does he have a son from that?
13:58 Drew Yeah.
13:58 Frank Stallone A three year old.
13:59 Adam A three year old. Oh, okay. So...
14:00 Drew My brother, which that's pretty scary.
14:02 Frank Stallone She's 33.
14:03 Adam Right. Okay. Now I got home. Oh my gosh. That's your brother?
14:07 Drew He's my brother. I mean, the scary thing is when I go out with my father, they say, hey, grandpa, who's that? That's my son. Oh my God. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know if it's good genetics or just... Well, he was very upset when she got pregnant. I said, well, he thought he knew he could do it, but he didn't think, you know, anything would happen. I said, well, it happens that way, dad.
14:29 Adam Well, I guess, you know, if your dad lives long enough, you have to sit down, explain the birds and the bees to him eventually. Like a second time around. It comes full circle.
14:37 Drew Dementia.
14:39 Adam Claudia. Jesus Christ. Drew, how long is that sperm good for? I mean, is that sperm good? 75, 80?
14:47 Frank Stallone I mean, keep it in the right kind of container.
14:49 Adam Yeah. So your dad is a tupperware for a nut sack. Right.
14:54 Drew That's right.
14:55 Frank Stallone Vacuum sealed.
14:55 Drew Exactly.
14:56 Adam Yeah.
14:57 Drew He's got the food saver.
14:59 Adam He burps his sack before he goes to bed at night. But hold on a second, Claudia. Seriously, Drew, is it? I mean, if a 95-year-old guy.
15:07 Frank Stallone It's possible. Not all 95-year-olds could produce that way.
15:10 Adam But if the plumbing is working and something's coming out of the spigot.
15:14 Frank Stallone No, it's not necessarily with the right kind, right? Motility or capacity in the sperm, or even the right number. But sometimes there is.
15:22 Adam So it decreases as one gets older.
15:25 Frank Stallone Oh, yeah. Have you noticed that yet?
15:26 Adam Unless you're Stallone. Now, you know why? I start closing my eyes. I don't want to see what's coming out. Claudia? Yes. All right. So you're 14. What's going on?
15:36 Caller Okay.
15:37 Caller I'll have to ask for Adam not to dog me out, because I know he dogs out all the young people on here.
15:42 He all calls us stupid, so.
15:45 Caller My problem is that I'm confused, and I think I may be bisexual.
15:48 Adam Oh, man, are you stupid?
15:50 Frank Stallone How come?
15:52 Caller And the thing is that sometimes I think of them sexually.
15:57 Frank Stallone Women.
15:58 Caller Other times I don't. Women. I think it could be just me admiring them.
16:02 Adam Them being women, right?
16:04 Frank Stallone Look, this is all age-appropriate kinds of feelings. Everybody gets to go through some of this.
16:10 Caller Okay.
16:10 Frank Stallone And as you grow through this transition time, you'll kind of figure out what you're up to. Maybe you will be confused. Maybe you will be bisexual. Maybe you'll be gay. But right now, just sit tight and realize that at your age, intimate feelings very often get converted into sexual feelings.
16:27 Caller Okay.
16:29 Adam Anything happened to you growing up? Any molestation or anything?
16:34 Caller Yeah, it sort of did.
16:35 Frank Stallone Okay. Well, I take back what I just said.
16:37 Adam There you go. That's what's going on.
16:38 Frank Stallone Then you're going to have confusion. That's sort of typical of that history.
16:44 Caller Okay. Well, see, he was like, what, six, seven years older than me.
16:48 Frank Stallone Of course.
16:49 Adam How old were you?
16:50 Caller I was probably like maybe six at the time.
16:54 Caller He was about seven years older than me.
16:55 Frank Stallone Awful.
16:56 Adam Who was this guy?
16:59 Caller Just some guy in the family.
17:01 Adam Oh, I see.
17:01 Frank Stallone Just some guy you've never met before?
17:03 Adam In the family?
17:04 Caller Well, like cousins.
17:05 Adam Cousins. Okay. And have you ever got any help for this? Talk to anyone about it?
17:10 Frank Stallone No.
17:10 Caller Nobody knows.
17:11 Frank Stallone That's what you need to do, Claudia. If you really want to avoid being very confused as you go through adolescence, get a look at it.
17:18 Adam Yeah. You're not acting out now, are you, Claudia?
17:20 Caller No.
17:21 Adam Yeah.
17:21 Frank Stallone Good.
17:21 Adam Okay. So you're 14.
17:23 Caller Okay.
17:24 Adam Don't start acting out. Just work it out. And then you don't have to act it out.
17:28 Caller Well, I've come very close, but not exactly yet. Good.
17:32 Frank Stallone Just hang back.
17:33 Yeah.
17:33 Adam But the point is, you got to do something about this, otherwise you won't be able to hang back in another six months or a year.
17:39 Well, it's okay.
17:40 Caller Well, the thing that happened to me, it's sort of hard for me to talk about because I have a very religious family.
17:47 Frank Stallone Claudia, you just talked to us about it. No problem. You need to go to another professional who can actually treat you about this.
17:52 Caller Well, I'm like a Romanian gypsy.
17:54 Frank Stallone Claudia, you seem to have no problem discussing it with us.
17:58 Caller Right.
17:58 I can discuss with friends.
17:59 Caller Yeah.
18:00 Frank Stallone Well, you got to discuss it with a friend.
18:02 Adam I've never heard someone discuss something that can't discuss so much. Yeah.
18:06 Frank Stallone You got to discuss it with a caretaker.
18:08 Drew Like a million people are listening to her.
18:09 Adam Right.
18:10 Caller It's different with family because he's known to me as a brother.
18:13 Frank Stallone Claudia, you don't have to discuss it with your family. Talk about it with a healthcare professional, not with your family.
18:18 Adam You're a Romanian gypsy?
18:20 Caller Yes, I am. No, I don't steal or do anything like that.
18:26 Adam No, I know. But what do you think about that song, that Cher song, when she talks about the tramps and the thieves? I heard that a million times. You must be offended. Yeah.
18:36 Caller Yeah.
18:37 Adam Okay. There you go, Claudia.
18:38 Caller So, but do you think that-
18:39 Adam No, listen, we're done talking to you. You have to talk to her. Who is that? That's her friend, her gypsy friend. On the other side with the scarf in her hair and the crystal ball. All right. Hey, people don't realize that gypsies got a pretty rough shot in World War II, too.
18:53 Frank Stallone Oh, yes.
18:53 Adam Oh, yeah.
18:54 Frank Stallone Like two million shots.
18:57 Adam Yeah. I mean, gypsies. You know what's weird?
19:00 Frank Stallone Well, not just the gypsies, but the Armenians.
19:02 Adam You hear about the Jews complaining, I got an ass full of Jews, but the gypsies, boy, they really got an ass beating, too.
19:08 Frank Stallone The Armenians got it.
19:09 Adam Yeah.
19:09 Frank Stallone I think that was the first World War, even the Armenians.
19:12 Adam Ah, the gypsies have always been crapped on. But listen, you roll into town in a wagon with a scarf tied on your hair, you're looking, you got an earring and you got a crystal ball, and of course, you're going to be made fun of.
19:24 Frank Stallone By the Nazis.
19:27 Adam Listen, there's this great, I think it's a Japanese proverb, which is, the nail that sticks up gets pounded down. Basically, it's how it goes. Unless you stick up, you get smacked. That's it. Blend in. Everyone, that's my message to you.
19:43 Frank Stallone As long as it's a Japanese proverb, then it's okay.
19:46 Adam Here's the thing about the Japanese. We can't figure out whether the lunatics are geniuses. Half the time, we're quoting them and we're all into this functue and all this lifestyle. The other half the time, we're making fun of them for World War II and eating rhino horn. The jury's out on the Japanese.
20:03 Drew Why are the Oriental so much into finding all these strange ways for espratigiac? Do they have a problem?
20:09 Adam Small penis.
20:10 Drew Is that what it is?
20:11 Adam Small penis and it's what you call compensation.
20:14 Drew I mean everything. I don't know what it is now. Next thing, they'll be eating wallpaper to get erection. I don't know. It's rhino horn. It's dolphin fin.
20:22 Adam Yeah. Listen, it's why little dogs bark more. They're making up for it. Come on. It's true.
20:30 Frank Stallone Let's go on to calls, please. This is a... Kerry. Kerry.
20:33 Adam You're 17. Listen, we had that prostitute who worked at the brothel for three months, who had been with thousands of guys, call up, and I said to her flat out, which culture has the smallest penis? She didn't even bat an eye. She went Asian.
20:47 Frank Stallone And then she said, who is the worst?
20:49 Adam Now, then I said, who is the smelliest culture? She went Middle Eastern. So far, I had my pad. I was like, yep, check, check. I was just squaring my answers off. Then who was the worst lovers? Young American guys, right?
21:01 Drew Oh, really?
21:02 Adam Yeah. That broke my heart.
21:03 Drew Who were the best? The Italians.
21:05 Adam The Italians. Paisan, come on, give me a high five.
21:08 Drew Yeah.
21:09 Adam Carrie? No, she didn't say.
21:11 Drew 80-year-old, three-year-old son.
21:13 Adam 80-year-old Paisan. What's going on, Carrie?
21:17 Okay. My best friend's boyfriend basically told me that he wanted to go out with me instead of her.
21:24 Frank Stallone Best friend's boyfriend. Well, stay away from that guy. He's an idiot.
21:26 I know, but he keeps calling my house now.
21:28 Adam Well, you like him.
21:29 Frank Stallone Carrie, you like him.
21:30 No, not at all.
21:31 Frank Stallone Then why do you spend two seconds with this idiot? Why don't you tell your girlfriend immediately what he's up to?
21:34 I did tell her, and now she's going to stay with him and take him to prom. And I'm like so creeped out because I don't even want him there.
21:40 Adam Well, what do you care? Do you have a date for the prom?
21:42 Yes, I do.
21:44 Frank Stallone It's her disaster. She's living with that nutball.
21:46 Adam Who's your date?
21:47 Oh, I'm going with a friend of mine.
21:49 Adam Well, that doesn't sound great.
21:51 Oh, thanks.
21:52 Adam Well, you're going with a friend. You should be going with a date, right?
21:55 Well, I don't know.
21:56 Adam Okay. Well, you sure you don't like this guy at all?
21:59 Yeah, I'm positive.
22:00 He's like a big loser.
22:01 Adam Okay. Well, fine then.
22:02 But it's like my friend, like, I don't know.
22:04 It seems to me like she's kind of, like, mad at me.
22:07 Adam Yeah. Well, that can happen. But listen, you were straight up with her. You have no reason to be ashamed.
22:13 I don't know. Like, what do I do if he keeps calling me?
22:16 Adam Listen, you got to just hang up. Just get off the phone.
22:18 Frank Stallone Do not take his calls. He will stop. We guarantee it.
22:21 Okay.
22:21 Frank Stallone Only if you have a part of you that kind of is intrigued or flattered by this will this continue.
22:26 Not at all.
22:27 Frank Stallone Do you understand?
22:28 Yeah.
22:28 Frank Stallone Okay.
22:29 Adam All right, Karen.
22:29 All right. Bye.
22:30 Adam Bye-bye. Yeah.
22:32 Drew It's amazing that people just, they can't make a decision. They can't hang up.
22:39 Adam No.
22:39 Drew Their boyfriends treat them bad and they must be self-loathing. There are some people that just must eat themselves.
22:46 Adam It's insecurity and it's stuff that comes with younger age. I mean, think about how you were at that age.
22:53 Drew I'm talking about adults.
22:54 Frank Stallone I mean, when you see adults, they're like... It's who you think of yourself in relation to other people. If you're the person who is a victim or who is sort of taking advantage of all the time and can't assert oneself, that's who you are. That's it. You can't magically change that.
23:08 Drew Some people relate that to being cruel. Just said, listen, I just don't want to hear it.
23:12 Adam Well, listen, here's how it works. You're not doing them a favor either. I was thinking about it. I have people that call me and have called me five times and I owe them a call. I thought about it today and I was going to call one of them back. It's like, jeez, that guy's called me five, actually it was my dad. No, it was just some guy and I thought, I'm going to call him back. Then I thought, well, if I call him back, what am I going to say? We're going to make some date to go out to lunch three weeks from now that I don't want to go. In that day, I'm going to cancel it. Then I thought to myself, why am I even calling him back if I'm just going to blow smoke up his ass? I don't want to go anyway. Furthermore, what kind of favor am I doing for him? I'm telling him we're going to go out to lunch in two weeks and I'm going to cancel the day before and piss him off. Why bother? I'm not calling back.
23:56 Frank Stallone I don't think this is the point we're making. That was my point.
23:59 Adam It's my show. Drew, I gotta make my point. This is cathartic for me. Understand? All right. Well, be honest with people or at least be honest with them in your actions. You don't have to tell everyone off. You can give them the impression, the right impression, which is you don't want to talk to them. You don't want to be around them. You don't have to square everyone off in the face. And confront them, Drew. Don't return their call. When they call you, tell them you're busy, you're in the middle of something. Get off the phone. Give them enough negative reinforcement. You don't have to have the confrontation. They'll stop calling. Thank you, Drew. Shut up over there and put that computer away. See, you I have no difficulty with. All right, Frank Stallone is our guest tonight. Movie Stars is the name of the show. WB, Sunday nights, nine o'clock. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Holly, who's 17, obsessed with making herself throw up. We'll figure out how to get her to stop that after this.
24:55 Caller We about to get funky, yo.
24:58 This is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. We'll be right back.
25:35 Adam I love the leather bag, I put it in it. That's great.
25:37 Drew I love the leather bag. I like the sound of it. It makes you sound like you hit harder than you do.
25:42 Adam Yeah. Frank Stallone is here. We're just talking a little bag and boxing. His show is Movistars. That is Sunday, WB, 9 o'clock. He's also got a CD. He can give us the name of that CD.
25:57 Drew Yeah, it's called Full Circle. It's my newest one. And like every other artist, I have my own label now because when they merged all the acts, most of them lost their record deal. So everyone's doing on their own now. So I can be gotten on amazon.com. And it's I think it's the best album I've ever done. I'm really, really happy with it.
26:16 Adam They've done quite a few.
26:17 Drew Yeah, I have. Yeah, I have.
26:19 Adam How many?
26:19 Drew Seven.
26:20 Adam Yeah, that's and a lot of soundtrack stuff.
26:23 Drew A lot of soundtrack stuff.
26:25 Adam So we're going to sing Save Me Darling.
26:27 Drew Far from Over.
26:28 Adam Yeah, Far from Over.
26:29 Drew Go, baby.
26:32 Adam Go, baby.
26:34 Drew Where were you when I needed you, Adam? Where were you in 83, 84?
26:39 Adam Was that 84?
26:40 Drew Yeah, you know what happened? The funny thing was I went up to the office and I just found out that my brother was directing Saturday Night Fever, the sequel. Now, you gotta understand the first album, Saturday Night Fever, sold 52 million albums, 26 million double albums. So everybody in the world wants to be on this thing. Of course, look, I have two cents. I just got dropped off my record. I didn't have any money. I had no career happening at that point. He said, hey, why don't you write a few songs? I said, okay, right. The Bee Gees were there. Everyone was there. So what happened was I just went, it was just like a conscious flow. All of a sudden, I started writing, going into studio and all of a sudden, I bring it up to Paramount, car like, I had like a rust mobile in those days. He listens to it and goes, Jesus Christ. Because the Bee Gees stuff, and I think they're the greatest writers, but what happened? It hadn't changed since then.
27:37 Adam Right, same stuff.
27:38 Drew It was very clean and they wanted more of an earthy urban thing. I think out of desperation, everything came out and all of a sudden, he told John, he goes, hey, listen to this stuff and he didn't tell him who it was. I ended up with 13 songs in the movie. It was really weird. It was just a weird thing.
27:58 Adam What condition was it in when you handed it to them though? It wasn't finished.
28:02 Drew Oh, well, you know what happened?
28:03 Adam It was like a demo, right?
28:04 Drew They were demos, but a lot of them were used in the movies because I went in the studio with really great players and it just had a lot of heart and soul in it. And the thing is, everybody and their mother wanted to be on the soundtrack, Hall and Oates, Billy Joel. And I mean, I was like basically the most unknown. But the thing was Travolta heard it and he said, that's what I want. It's like, you know, maybe I was taking over the spirit of Tony Manara. I don't know what the hell it was, but the thing was, of course, the Bee Gees were not happy with me. I said, well, come on, you guys got $300 million. What do you want? I'm driving like an 80, I'm driving a 72 Datsun at that point. The thing was, they got so mad that they put their songs on one side of the album, and my songs were on the other side.
28:46 Adam Oh, really?
28:47 Drew Yeah. I bumped into them once and I said, I was always big fans of theirs. They were like, raw, very British. Yeah, it's great. Brilliant. Piss off.
28:57 Adam I was looking at the elm for Staying Alive today because I was walking around the Mancho office. It's the worst album cover. Singing at the whole time. Well, a big picture of Travolta's head on there.
29:09 Drew With all those lights.
29:10 Adam Yeah. I was singing and somebody, someone went and got it for me and gave it to me. I was supposed to bring it in, but I forgot. But here's the point. I was looking at the back. I was looking at the pictures of the three Bee Gees brothers. And I thought to myself, and I was saying to somebody at the office, this is amazing. You have one guy who is exceptionally good looking.
29:31 Drew Barry.
29:31 Adam Barry. And then you have the other two which are exceptionally homely.
29:35 Drew And one's bald and the other's not. And they're twins. You know that.
29:39 Frank Stallone Who's twins?
29:41 Drew Maurice and Robin are twins.
29:43 Adam The point is, is you have three, how often you have three brothers, one of them is exceptionally good looking, and the other two are exceptionally unattractive. Like novelty funny looking, novelty good looking. It's kind of weird.
29:56 Drew And the one's real tall and the other one's short.
29:59 Adam Yeah, it's like, where do you, where did that chasm come from? I mean, your brother and you, there's some differences, but basically, you can see you're cut out of the same cloth.
30:09 Drew Come from the same thing, my dad.
30:12 Adam Right.
30:12 Drew 80 year old guy.
30:13 Adam Dad's still knocking him out.
30:14 Frank Stallone Three year old looks like this guy.
30:15 Drew Yeah, three year old, it's scary. It's like Rocky 20. He's coming out. Dante Stallone.
30:23 Adam Holly?
30:24 Caller Hello?
30:24 Adam You're 17, what's up?
30:26 Caller Yeah.
30:27 All right. I can't stop making myself throw up. And I don't know what to do.
30:32 Frank Stallone You need to get treatment.
30:33 Adam How long you been doing this?
30:35 A couple months now.
30:37 Frank Stallone You understand that what you're doing has about a one out of five chance of killing you.
30:43 Does it?
30:44 Frank Stallone Yeah.
30:45 Caller Wow.
30:46 No, I didn't know that.
30:47 Frank Stallone Yeah. So you really need to take this very seriously and talk to a doctor about it because it's like addiction. It's not something you can usually willfully stop. You need help with this.
30:55 Adam Did you have overbearing mother?
30:58 Frank Stallone No.
30:58 Adam Did she take you to ballet class when you were a kid?
31:01 Frank Stallone No. No, this is more of the total chaos stuff.
31:04 Adam Really?
31:05 Frank Stallone Yeah.
31:05 Adam All right. Holly? Yeah. You're going through some troubles at home?
31:10 Caller No, everything's fine.
31:12 Frank Stallone Do you cut on yourself or have you ever?
31:13 No, no.
31:15 Adam Why are you doing it then?
31:17 To lose weight.
31:18 Adam I see. Are you overweight?
31:20 Caller I know I'm not, but I feel I am. Yeah.
31:23 Adam I see.
31:24 Frank Stallone You're in.
31:25 Adam What are you weighing?
31:26 Caller 130.
31:27 Frank Stallone You meet all criteria for eating disorder. And before you rot your teeth and start bleeding from your esophagus or get a cardia.
31:35 Caller I floss and like brush before and after like a million times a day because I don't want to like.
31:39 Frank Stallone Doesn't matter. The acid takes the enamel right off your teeth.
31:42 Adam Oh, really?
31:42 Frank Stallone Yeah. And also you can tear your esophagus and bleed to death and you'll develop severe heart problems and bone problems and you'll develop premature failure of the ovaries and fertility problems and all the good stuff that goes along with this.
31:55 Adam I call the dentist to make an appointment today, by the way. Me calling the dentist, by the way, is like a fugitive turning himself into the authorities. It's really the same thing. You know, I'm usually just on the lamb and my dentist has to come after me. Usually sends like federal marshals over the house with floss and stuff. You know, they really track me down, make me feel guilty. I get the card with the giant toothbrush on it, with the top hat and bow tie. And I've yelled at Drew a million times. Why is novelty and dentistry such a bizarre marriage? You know what I mean? Dentists act like every goddamn patient they have is six and a half. You know, I mean, I'm 35 years old, I get Mr. Toothbrush coming over to the house.
32:38 Drew Mr. Tooth decay, Knoxing. But the thing is, you know, I was talking to my dentist, that dentists have a high rate of suicide and alcoholism. Because the thing is, everyone hates them. And the thing is, and I asked him about that, he said, well, Frank, just remember the primitive era of dentistry, like when doctors were considered saw bones. I mean, a guy putting his knee on your chest and yanking your teeth out with a pair of horse pliers.
33:02 Frank Stallone That's still what's happening.
33:03 Adam Yeah, that's what I picture in my mind. No, I cannot.
33:06 Drew Can you imagine those days, like in, say, it's almost like in the Civil War when they had to amputate your leg, and they just tell you to bite on a belt and get you drunk and saw your leg off with, like, six guys standing on you?
33:15 Adam I can't imagine. I can't, but I'll tell you why people hate dentists in dentistry and why they should, rightfully so, hate these people. Every time I go in the dentist's office, I got my mouth wide open, they're scraping it, they're rubbing on it, and then they take water and they spray it with that hard sprayer thing on my teeth, and it's amazingly painful each time because the water's cold. It's freezing cold water that they're spraying on my teeth.
33:41 Frank Stallone And air.
33:42 Adam And then they spray it with air, and I go, listen, I, you know, it's like a god damn Coors commercial where you get this water. I don't know where you're pumping it in from.
33:50 Drew Yeah.
33:50 Adam But the water's freezing.
33:51 Drew It is.
33:52 Adam And then you spray it with the air. It's killing my teeth. I got an invention. How about a little warmer, a little heater? You plug it in and it warms the water.
33:59 Drew After they do a scraping on your teeth, your gums are just like if any air, how about when they drill your teeth and all of a sudden they go, how about a little air?
34:06 Adam Oh no. I said to them though, put a heater in and they go, yeah, somebody thought of that. And I'm like, that's great. And they're like, yeah, we're thinking about getting one. Feel free to go ahead and do that. Just get the goddamn water heater and make it easy on people. Drew, I'm not going to get going, but the technology, I'm telling you, moccasin making has come further. From a technological standpoint, in the last 50 years in dentistry, there's been bigger breakthroughs. And the biggest breakthrough has been the pina colada scrub. I always love that. You want the mint, you want the cherry, or the new pina colada. I'm always like, listen, why pina colada? And like, it tastes good. I'm like, look, steak and liver and onions taste good. You want to, what am I going to do? Close my eyes and think I'm on a tropical island somewhere? This is pumice. You're rubbing my teeth with pina colada.
34:56 Drew You remember in the old days when you're a kid, they used to put a piece of cotton on the drill. So it looked like a rabbit was running as they were like, you're six years old and they were like taking your fillings out.
35:04 Adam Really?
35:05 Drew Well, yeah, because the old ones had like, it was like a wire that went in the cables. And a guy goes, look at the rabbit.
35:10 Adam Oh, it's like you're at the dog track.
35:12 Drew Oh, yeah.
35:13 Adam Yeah, there were a labyrinth series of belts. Yeah.
35:16 Drew And the needle was like huge in those days. And he just used to go. This one guy, first time I did my teeth was a vet. And then he became a dentist. I said, what a guy, orangutan. He's like sticking this thing through my mouth.
35:27 Adam Just got done working on a cow.
35:28 Frank Stallone Jessica, 25.
35:31 Frank Stallone Yes. Hi, guys, thanks.
35:33 Adam Me and Frank can do an hour and a half on dentistry.
35:35 Drew Just got done working on a yak.
35:37 Adam What's going on there?
35:39 Frank Stallone Well, basically, my question is, I have just recently started attending a few AA meetings. I don't know for sure if I'm an alcoholic per se or what.
35:52 Frank Stallone Is there one of your parents alcoholic?
35:55 Frank Stallone No, not that I'm aware of. I don't believe so, not unless they've kicked it a long time ago.
36:01 Frank Stallone How about the grandparents or aunts or uncles?
36:03 Frank Stallone Not that I know of.
36:05 Frank Stallone What's your ethnic background?
36:07 Frank Stallone I'm Caucasian.
36:08 Frank Stallone Where are your ancestors from?
36:11 Frank Stallone 50% German, French, and French Canadian in the Norwegian.
36:16 Frank Stallone Okay. All right. So what's your question?
36:20 Adam Not big boozers, any of those.
36:21 Frank Stallone No, not specifically.
36:22 Adam No.
36:23 Frank Stallone I mean, you can get it, but not necessarily.
36:24 Frank Stallone Yeah. Well, I don't know. Like I said, I've always had kind of a problem with overdoing it with alcohol. In the last two years or so, I've noticed an overwhelmingly percentage of the time that I drink, I black out. Yeah. I mean, like regularly.
36:42 Adam What have you done when you black down?
36:45 Frank Stallone Drive home. Just stupid things. You wake up and not necessarily one-night stands or anything, but things that you wake up and get sober and you just think, wow, that was really stupid and I've really got to watch that.
36:58 Frank Stallone All right. What's your question?
36:59 Frank Stallone My question is basically I'm also starting to see a psychologist for the first time. I've kind of dealt with over the past year is depression, but nothing clinical, nothing that I've ever seen a psychologist for.
37:15 Frank Stallone What's your question, Jessica?
37:17 Frank Stallone Basically, if I get treated for the depression in the long term, I know I'm not going to be able to do alcohol socially again. I've smoked pot socially for the past probably 12 years, and socially never really had a problem with it, can do it, and whatever.
37:34 Frank Stallone Well, I don't know if you're an alcoholic or not. So you clearly have issues with alcohol, but you don't really meet my criteria for alcoholism sort of at first brush. So you may not be alcoholic. If you are not, obviously it's not a great idea to be smoking pot if you're prone to depression, but you also do not fit the sort of syndrome of marijuana addiction. If you're an alcoholic and you're trying to maintain an honest program of recovery, you should not be using any substances obviously, because that behavior of putting substances in your system in order to feel better is the behavior that you're trying to treat. If on the other hand, you have some dynamic issues, some character issues, some affect issues like depression, and those are being adequately managed in depression, rely on your therapist to give you some guidance. All right.
38:18 Adam Talk to them. I found her annoying.
38:21 Frank Stallone I think she may be like a personality disorder. There's nothing to do with personality disorders. First of all, she gave you that feeling.
38:27 Adam Yes.
38:28 Frank Stallone Second, the people with those disorders will use substances substantially without being addicted necessarily.
38:32 Adam Well, also too, it's a way of trying to approach your personality disorder through a conventional method in a way.
38:39 Frank Stallone Yeah.
38:41 Adam It's like I have a personality disorder that's looked upon a scant, but if you're attending AA meetings, you're helping yourself. Yeah. I don't think I didn't get the feeling she belonged in AA either, but I had the feeling she belonged somewhere.
38:56 Frank Stallone Yes.
38:57 Adam It's got an A on the end of it. I'm not sure what the PA, personality disorder. All right. Now, Drew, come on. Who do you want to talk to here? Jonathan's coming back. I like the neighbor with the racist neighbor, Ashley.
39:09 Hey, yeah.
39:09 Adam You're 16?
39:10 Caller Yeah.
39:11 Adam You're in love with your racist neighbor?
39:13 Caller Yeah, that's about the gist of it.
39:14 Adam Yeah. How old is he?
39:16 Caller He's 16 or 17. I don't know.
39:18 Adam 15 or 17?
39:19 Caller 16 or 17.
39:20 Adam 16 or 17. How do you know he's a racist?
39:22 Caller Because he tries to impress me and he'll say stuff like, Jewish or nigger. I mean, he's outright racist.
39:32 Frank Stallone That's impressing you?
39:34 Adam No, it's not. He thinks he's impressing him. Okay.
39:36 Caller He uses me. He wants to be friends with me, but only when he doesn't have any other friends. Uh-huh.
39:44 Frank Stallone He's just a dick.
39:45 Adam Hey, Ashley, you hang on to this catch with both hands and don't let him get away. Sounds like a real winner.
39:52 Caller But I guess I want to change him.
39:55 Adam Oh, okay. Fantastic.
39:57 Caller I know you can't do that. I listen to you.
39:58 Adam Hold on, Ashley. Hold on.
40:00 Frank Stallone We got more to talk about.
40:01 Adam Hold on a second. This is my favorite component of a female. Men aren't interested in changing anything. They don't want to change their underpants. Forget about a woman. Women that get them, they can change him. I can fix him. All right. Then I won't be attracted to him sexually if I do ever fix him. We're going to take a little break. Frank Stallone is our guest tonight. We'll get back with Ashley, the racist loving neighbor after this.
40:29 Loveline, we'll be right back.
41:02 Adam It's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. The Goo Goo Dolls will be in here on Wednesday. Say Ferris will be in here on Thursday. Frank Stallone is in here tonight. He's plugging a couple of things. One is Movie Stars, WB Sunday, 9 o'clock, and also Full Circle, which is his CD, which you can find on amazon.com, right, Frank?
41:27 Drew That's it. There you go, baby. That's the opening cut of Full Circle. It's called The Basement Tapes.
41:37 Adam Yeah. You know, my singing isn't great, but a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of energy. That's what the kids respond to, the soul.
41:44 Drew You sing better, my brother. All you got to do is listen to Paradise Alley. Oh, man. Sounds like they're electrocuting a, you know, orangutan. It's horrible. And they flew me out here to sing the title, and all of a sudden I got out here. I had no money in 1977, and they said, well, we've decided that, you know, it'd be good for Sly to sing the title of his movie. And I said, have you heard him sing yet? They go, no, no, we'll work. We have a coach. I said, oh, Christ.
42:12 Adam Maybe him and Travolta got together and talked each other into a singing career somehow because Travolta's got a song or two out.
42:20 Drew I swear to God.
42:21 Yeah. I'm gonna let him in.
42:24 Adam That's right.
42:25 Let him in.
42:27 Drew Well, you know, in Staying Alive, I had this song with Cynthia Rhodes and all of a sudden they pulled it out for me and they said, hey, I think we're gonna let John sing it. I said, not again. It cannot happen twice in a career. And all of a sudden, finally, the uppers heard John singing. They go, you know, John, don't sing. Just act.
42:46 Adam Ashley?
42:47 Caller Yeah.
42:47 Adam You're 16 years old.
42:50 Caller What's up?
42:52 Caller Well, Kate, I'm in love with my neighbor.
42:54 Adam Oh, that's right. The racist.
42:56 Caller The bigot. Yeah.
42:56 Adam Right.
42:58 Caller Wait, I have something else to say. Okay, Adam, you went to Walter Reed, right?
43:02 Adam That's right.
43:03 Caller Okay. I went to Walter Reed for like two years. Did you ever have Ms. Sudman?
43:06 Adam No, I did not.
43:07 Caller Okay. Never mind, then.
43:09 Adam All right.
43:09 Caller Okay. And if there's a perfect person to bet on, that is me.
43:14 Adam What happened to you?
43:15 Caller I want you. I'm challenging you to figure it out.
43:17 Adam Well, listen, betting is no fun when we're challenged to bet. We have to do it on our own. It has to be organic. So what happened in your past?
43:28 Caller I just really want you guys to guess. Okay.
43:30 Adam You were molested by Klansmen.
43:32 Caller Oh, God. Yeah. No, no, no. My dad left. And now I'm living with a racist who's my stepfather.
43:39 Adam Your stepfather.
43:39 Caller Yeah.
43:40 Adam All right. And what about, what's up with your mom?
43:44 Caller She kind of just gives in to what everyone says.
43:47 Frank Stallone By the way, we wouldn't have predicted this. You live with and hate a racist, we'd think you'd date a black guy.
43:53 Adam Yeah. Usually you go against the wishes of your parent when you're mad at your parent. But this is your stepparent, which is different.
43:59 Caller I've completely given up. We don't talk to each other ever. There's no word spoken.
44:03 Adam You and your stepdad.
44:04 Caller Yeah. I'm moving out in the next few months.
44:06 Adam Okay. Well, listen. All right. You seem to have a pretty good handle on what you're doing. Now, if you could only stop yourself from doing it. So feel free to stop yourself. You understand what the dynamic is. You listen to this show. You've heard it all before. You're telling us about it. Don't do it. This guy is an idiot.
44:24 Caller I mean, do you think it's worth it to try and talk to him about it?
44:27 Frank Stallone Yeah. Well, if you want to as a friend, but not as a way of somebody's going to be romantically involved and change him.
44:32 Caller Well, I've given up on that.
44:34 Frank Stallone Yeah.
44:34 Adam Good. Listen, guys fix up cars and women fix up guys. So really, shop for a guy like you'd shop for a car. You don't want a project. You want something you can drive right away. Drive it off the lot. All right?
44:49 Caller All right. Thanks.
44:50 Adam All right. See, Ashley is an example of somebody who has been through a lot, should by all rights go completely south, but has a little spark, has a little intelligence, has a little IQ and a little flair, and is probably going to end up salvaging a decent life herself.
45:07 Frank Stallone Some constitutional sort of resiliency.
45:10 Adam Right. That even though she had kind of a tough shake in life, is able to pull herself up by her own pump straps. I don't think women wear boots. Jonathan?
45:20 Frank Stallone Yeah? Certainly not Ashley.
45:21 Adam You're 16?
45:22 Caller Huh?
45:23 Adam What's up?
45:23 Caller Um, whenever my, I need help because whenever, I need to know what to do because whenever my penis is the wreck it like leans to the left and it also curves.
45:34 Frank Stallone Leans and curves.
45:35 Adam It leans and curves, really?
45:37 Caller Yeah.
45:38 Drew It's like a leaning tower of penis, I guess.
45:40 Adam What? Now, leaning would to me suggest that it sort of fell over at the base and curve. I mean, how do you draw the distinction between leaning and curve?
45:51 Frank Stallone Where it attaches to the body, it's an angle and it curves.
45:55 Adam True. Didn't I just say leaning to me would mean it fell over at the base?
45:58 Frank Stallone Yeah, but you said, the way you said it sounded like it fell down at the base.
46:01 Adam Yeah, I mean, it felt the direction it's going from the base and then it curved.
46:06 Frank Stallone Yes.
46:06 Adam Is that true?
46:07 Caller Yeah.
46:08 Adam So it's like you took an Indian bow, like a bow and arrow bow, and you planted it in the ground and then leaned it.
46:14 Caller Yeah.
46:15 Adam Is that what it's like?
46:16 Caller Exactly.
46:16 Frank Stallone How far over we're talking about?
46:18 Adam Is it going in your own anus?
46:20 Caller No.
46:20 Adam No. Okay, good.
46:21 Caller Just a little bit, but it will kind of like, oh, medium, and I need to know, I want to know what to do with the bone.
46:27 Frank Stallone Well, you can take some vitamin E, think about it.
46:29 Caller Vitamin E?
46:30 Frank Stallone Yeah, about 800 units a day sometimes help correct this kind of thing.
46:33 Caller And do you think I should consult like-
46:36 Frank Stallone Not unless you're having trouble with painful erection or difficulty having an erection.
46:39 Adam Oh, no, no, not at all.
46:41 Frank Stallone Otherwise, it's normal to have a certain amount of curve and lean.
46:43 Adam It's fine.
46:44 Caller All right, thanks.
46:46 Adam All right, you'll be fine, Jonathan.
46:47 Take your vitamin E.
46:48 Caller Adam?
46:49 Adam Yeah.
46:49 Caller Thank you, God, man.
46:50 Adam Thank you. There you go.
46:52 Frank Stallone Saved his penis.
46:53 Caller I mean, what's the other-
46:56 Frank Stallone All right, Jonathan, just relax.
46:58 Caller All right, thanks.
46:59 Drew Some of these questions are incredible. Kids 16.
47:02 Adam That's nothing for this show. He's got bigger fish to fry in that curved penis. Speech impediment. Surge?
47:08 Yeah.
47:09 Adam You're 21.
47:10 Caller Yes, that's correct.
47:11 Adam Are you gay?
47:12 Caller Yes, I am.
47:13 Adam You almost sound too gay to be gay.
47:15 Caller I almost sound too gay to be gay.
47:17 Frank Stallone You're gay. What's your question?
47:19 Adam Is your name really Surge?
47:20 Caller No, it's not.
47:21 Adam Yeah, okay.
47:23 Caller Of course, I'm not going to use my real name. I've been with my lover for two and a half years. And just recently, I've been thinking about women while I'm with him.
47:34 Adam I see.
47:36 Caller And I'm just confused in what's going on.
47:40 Adam I understand.
47:40 Frank Stallone You ever been with a woman?
47:42 Caller Yes, I have.
47:43 Frank Stallone How long ago was that?
47:44 Caller Five years ago.
47:45 Adam And how's your behind-man? Is that still intact?
47:48 Caller Yes.
47:49 Adam It is?
47:50 Caller Yes.
47:50 Adam Again, Drew, I'm appalled at the gays. Frank, you probably don't know about this. You'd be disturbed if you did.
47:56 Drew Go ahead.
47:57 Adam Many gay men are not involved in anal sex whatsoever. And to me, that's an outrage. I mean, it's why be gay?
48:04 Drew Yeah, exactly.
48:05 Adam That's my feeling. Serge?
48:07 Caller Yes.
48:08 Adam I'm disgusted with the two of you, you and your anus. Let's take a break here. Hold on a second, Serge.
48:13 Caller OK.
48:13 Adam All right, we got to take ourselves a break.
48:15 Caller OK.
48:15 Adam You'll be here when we get back, though, right?
48:17 Caller Yes, I will.
48:18 Adam All right. Frank Stallone is our guest tonight. We'll get back with Serge and his pristine anus after this.
48:26 Let's have some more fun.
48:27 Okay, let's do it.
48:30 Call Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.
48:34 Loveline will be right back.
49:11 Adam Yep, it is Loveline. We're going to take a quick 10 second timeout. It's what we do every night at this time, and we'll be back with more of the show in just 10 seconds.
49:19 This is Loveline on radio station.
49:36 Adam Yeah, Frank Stallone is our guest tonight. I like Frank, he's a regular guy.
49:42 Drew Oh, thank you.
49:42 Thank you.
49:43 Adam You can just sit and talk to him about everything and nothing.
49:46 Drew Exactly.
49:48 Adam Dr. Drew is an uptight prude with what's to wave his diploma in your face, and has a silver spoon stuck in his mouth, and he wears a monocle now.
49:58 A lot of people don't really like him.
49:59 Drew He does really.
50:00 Adam And an ascot, but not Frank Stallone. He's a regular guy. Shirts. Sunday Nights, WB Movie Stars is the name of the series. You should check that out. You should also check out Full Circle, which is the name of the CD, which you can find on amazon.com. And when we left off, we were speaking to Serge. Serge is gay. He's been thinking, has been with the same guy for two and a half years. I think he's starting to think about women now. Serge?
50:31 Yes.
50:32 Frank Stallone Serge, when was it you were with women?
50:34 Adam Five years ago.
50:35 Yes.
50:35 Frank Stallone Was that before you really...
50:37 Caller That was when I was 16.
50:39 Adam Oh, I see.
50:39 Frank Stallone Before you really accepted that you were gay or... Did you have a long period of time where you confused?
50:45 Caller I was going a little bit of both, you know, just experimenting in high school.
50:50 Adam Sure. I couldn't do one sex when I was in high school.
50:52 Frank Stallone How's your relationship going with this guy?
50:55 Caller It's a little rocky.
50:57 Frank Stallone Yeah. Maybe you think this could be a symptom of just the relationship kind of coming apart?
51:04 Caller I really don't think so because we get along so well.
51:07 Frank Stallone I just thought you said it was rocky.
51:09 Caller Well, you know, at times just because I'm off wandering and thinking of other things and...
51:15 Frank Stallone What does that mean?
51:16 Caller I'm sorry?
51:17 Frank Stallone What does that mean?
51:18 Adam What are you talking about?
51:20 Caller Just because, you know, when we're together, you know, just like any man, I guess, I have a wandering eye.
51:26 Adam I see. Who's the guy in the relationship? You?
51:29 Caller No, I'm not.
51:30 Adam He's the guy?
51:31 Caller Yes, he is.
51:32 Adam But your behemoth's intact.
51:34 Frank Stallone Is he the other guy?
51:35 Adam Shouldn't he be giving it to you if he's the guy?
51:38 Caller He's the receiver.
51:39 Drew He's the catcher.
51:40 Adam He's the catcher.
51:42 Drew And you're the pitcher.
51:42 Adam That makes you the guy.
51:44 Caller Sometimes.
51:46 Adam Okay, listen, we got the gay riddler on the other line. Jesus Christ, Serge. Listen, if you're nailing him in the ass and he's not nailing you, that makes you the guy. The guy in the relationship, right?
51:58 Caller But he's more manly.
51:59 Adam All right, so he's got a little more hair on his ass. You're the one who's out thinking about with the wandering eye. Okay?
52:07 Caller True.
52:07 Adam All right.
52:09 Caller But, like my question was, you know, I'm just concerned.
52:11 Adam All right, why are you so confused? What happened to you?
52:14 Caller I'm just my stepsister and she's sexy and she just moved in with us a couple months ago. And I don't know.
52:22 Adam All right, Serge, Serge, listen, this whole thing's a mess. Don't get anyone pregnant. That's number one. Always pull out of his ass. Okay? I know, I know there's a biology here that's not going to let him get pregnant, but I don't want to take any chances. Understand? I'm no doctor. I just don't want to take any chances, Serge. You pull out. Okay?
52:40 Caller Okay, always.
52:40 Adam All right. And listen, Serge, seriously, I mean, talk to a therapist, read a book. Don't do so much acting out, but try to get to the bottom of this part of the pun, all right?
52:50 Caller Okay.
52:51 Adam All right. And don't freak yourself out. Just sort yourself out.
52:54 Caller Okay. Well, thank you.
52:55 Adam There you go. That's good. Don't freak yourself out.
52:57 Frank Stallone Why should I believe that call?
52:58 Adam Yeah, he sounds like he's full of crap, doesn't he?
53:00 Drew Hey, Drew, you know what I want to ask you guys? Why do most people in the gay community always say like, my lover? I mean, I don't hear heteros ever say, I have my girlfriend or this guy. But why do they always say, well, I've been with my lover?
53:15 Adam Well, because I agree with you, it always sounds weird.
53:20 Drew And it's like for me to say to you, so where were you last night, Frank? I was with my lover. I was with whoever, you know.
53:26 Adam Right. But the thing is, if they call it their boyfriend, then there's some confusion, like people think it was a friend of theirs, and they can't get married, so it can't be a husband or wife. They do go partner. The more discreet gays go with the partner. But I think a lot of them like to just sort of gross people out. That's the bottom line, they want to get a rise out of you. It always drives it home. You know, to me, the gay lifestyle is one of the greatest lifestyles in the world until I actually start hearing about the sex. And then I'm repulsed. It's just, there's a biology in straight guys that cannot accept that. And I'm perfectly comfortable with mine. I just cannot accept it. I mean, I'm okay with you doing it, but if I see it, I wince. And let me tell you, I got a pretty strong stomach. I eat stuff off the floor all the time. I've seen more pornography than Ron Jeremy has, I swear to Christ. But I see one picture of any kind of gay sex and I'm repulsed. It is, I mean, I wince.
54:23 Drew It's an Italian thing.
54:24 Adam I cannot look at it. Yeah, I mean, it's like, I gotta turn my head. It's bizarre. It's not even, and I have a sort of morbid curiosity about just about everything. But I see a guy with his schvanz and another guy's ass and I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, hand right in front of the, I hold the hand in front of my face, I turn my head, no, get it, get away.
54:43 Drew I can't do it. So what do you do, like, about a famous actor that was like, hey, let me tell you, and then you found out he was gay. Does it, like, change your persona of him? I mean, if a guy that you really dug, say if it was like you found out, like, an actor, you said, man, this was my favorite actor growing up, like Clark Gable.
55:01 Adam You trying to say something about your brother?
55:02 Drew Oh, no, no, no.
55:03 Adam No, because you gave me, you know what I'm saying?
55:06 Drew Oh, Christ, hey, your brother.
55:08 Adam No, you know, it would have some impact, but not a ton, and it's probably because I don't really idolize anybody anyway. I just figure these guys have their own problems.
55:20 Frank Stallone How would you find a boxer?
55:22 Adam Uh, I'd respect him more. I'd say, boy, if this guy's gay and kicking ass, I respect that.
55:29 Drew Well, Emo Griffith, he killed someone during, he was gay.
55:31 Adam Oh, he was?
55:32 Drew Five time world champion. Yeah, because Benny Kibberett called him in Muddacon before the fight. And it was, I saw it, it was on TV, and he beat him to death.
55:41 Adam Wow.
55:41 Drew Yeah, but I mean, if it was someone like, you know, like someone like, you know, like a great, like, Newt Rocknean, you saw him like getting like butt slammed. It'd be like, oh, Jesus.
55:51 Adam If there was some, if there was some picture of Abraham Lincoln or something, of Abe Lincoln or the Gipper.
55:58 Drew Or the Gipper, or the Four Horsemen of Motors.
56:01 Adam Or there's some guy like that giving a BJ to...
56:03 Drew Or Vince Lombardi, I mean.
56:04 Adam Lombardi was like blowing an assistant coach or something.
56:07 Drew Like Balhorn, yeah.
56:08 Adam It would, it would, it would take a little the, a little the luster off of their memory, I'm sure. But I, I wouldn't...
56:15 Frank Stallone If he was with his wife, it would freak you out too.
56:17 Adam That's true.
56:17 You're right.
56:19 Adam Going down on his fat wife, right? Marge, you know, in her 50s at the time.
56:24 Rob?
56:25 Caller Hey, what's up?
56:26 Adam That's a good point, Drew. You're 20, what's up?
56:28 Caller Hey Adam, first of all, I'd like to say I love you, man, but your whole theory on people who are stupid, stop smoking pot and start drinking, is scientifically flawed because drinking has been proven to cause brain damage and smoking pot hasn't.
56:42 Adam Yeah, but listen...
56:43 Frank Stallone Actually there's an article out just now that shows even moderate, it's in the Journal of Addictive Substances, it shows even moderate marijuana exposure and rather remarkable anatomic changes in the brain.
56:55 Adam Well, listen, here's the deal, it's not going to transform you into an idiot, but it dulls you. Listen, I know guys who drink consistently and I know guys who smoke weed consistently, and you tell me who's faster on the mark, who's quicker on the draw. It's the guys who drink. It's not when you're drunk, I'm saying, but when you're sober. That's what I'm saying, Rob.
57:19 Frank Stallone And the science is catching up with that, Rob.
57:21 Adam But anyway, go ahead.
57:22 Caller Okay, anyway, so I'm driving home today and I get home and I kind of live out in the middle of nowhere, but there's a house that's being built next door, and I'm hearing like all this screaming stuff over there, so I sort of like, you know, creep over there to investigate and whatever, and I'm looking through one of the, I mean, by the time I got there, I kind of figured it out, some people having sex, but I look inside one of the windows there and it was a full moon and everything, and there were just some, you know, teenagers messing around, but I really, really got off on it, and I was just wondering if that was an indication of, you know, some sort of psychological disorder.
57:57 Adam No, you're a 20 year old guy, somebody was having sex and you peaked on them.
58:03 Caller Yeah. Yeah.
58:04 Frank Stallone What is the disorder you're concerned about?
58:06 Caller Well, I just, I mean, it was like a euphoric experience for me, it was like, you know, I had never felt anything like it, it just felt almost too good to be something that was normal.
58:17 Adam Well, you had a little adrenaline rush, right?
58:20 Caller I guess so, you know, and the thing is, is that it's not like I have a hard time looking up at girls or anything, you know?
58:25 Adam Yeah, but here's the deal, have you done much of this in your life?
58:28 Caller Oh yeah, oh no, no, no, no, no, you mean like, looked at people?
58:31 Adam Warriorism, yeah.
58:33 Caller No, this is the first time.
58:34 Adam Well listen, if this was a problem it would have reared its head years ago.
58:38 Frank Stallone Do you feel like you're going to have to do it again?
58:40 Caller Yeah, I actually, I was thinking about that and I was like, I would do that again in a second.
58:43 Adam You could be a late bloomer, well you would if someone started humping in the next house and screaming, but listen, I'm 35, I'd go over there.
58:50 Drew Are you kidding me? Don't you think guys have a natural curiosity? If you saw two people like in the woods, like getting on, it could be kind of like.
58:57 Adam In the woods, in my living room in North Hollywood, I used to be camped out, I had a friend who got a ton of tail, a roommate, he'd be banging away on the sofa bed, with one of the legs was broken on the thing, you know, it was like, it was a bad sofa bed, so one leg was perpetually like six inches above the ground, so it'd be like, bang, bang, bang, bang. The downstairs neighbor hated it. This guy would be going at it, I'd be in the bedroom, I'd be standing in that hall, hell yes, I have my other roommate too, the Wheeze, he was a little guy, he'd poke his head around the doorway, I'd poke my head around the doorway, and we'd be camped out there for hours, hell yes. It's natural, I could not do it. No way, if I was 20 and lying in bed and trying to get some sleep, and I hear that tell-tale third leg on the Murphy bed banging away in the next room, I'm right, I act like a dog when he hears a can opener. That's what that sofa was to me, I come running in there.
59:52 Drew Bob Love's dog.
59:52 Adam Yeah, Chuck Wagon, I was like, someone's ringing the dinner bell.
59:56 Drew Triangle.
59:58 Adam It was great, it was like a cartoon, the little guy would poke his head, would come around the corner about 3 feet off the ground, and the tall guy's head.
1:00:05 Drew Like Mutt and Jeff.
1:00:05 Adam Yeah, come around about 5 feet over the head, and then about, once every like 10 minutes or so, the wheeze would look up at me and go, you're not whacking off, are you? No, come on, I have some dignity. He's like, okay, he was in a vulnerable spot there. Yeah, those are good times. Heidi?
1:00:23 Yeah.
1:00:24 Adam You're 16.
1:00:25 Caller Yeah.
1:00:25 Adam What's up?
1:00:28 Caller I got my parents, my dad left, my mom was a drug addict.
1:00:32 Adam Right.
1:00:33 Caller And made a woman that he met at church and her husband committed suicide.
1:00:40 Adam When he heard about this?
1:00:42 Caller Well, after.
1:00:43 Frank Stallone I'm confused.
1:00:44 Caller Actually, he committed suicide in 98 and they got made in 99.
1:00:48 Adam Right. Did he commit suicide based on them getting together or is it just coincidence?
1:00:53 Caller No, it was just coincidence.
1:00:54 Adam Okay.
1:00:55 Caller And I got my step sister started with drugs and I have a 13 year old brother.
1:01:02 Adam All right. Well, you got to get him started too, right?
1:01:05 Caller Well, no, we want to figure out like how we can get sober without our parents knowing and like keep him away from it.
1:01:11 Adam What are you into? Speed?
1:01:13 Caller No, like weed and like acid and shrooms.
1:01:19 Adam Wow. It's weird, though, that those have taken hold at 16. I just mean, you know, acid, shrooms especially, and weed when you're just getting started, not ones that sort of take hold of you, as much as, you know, let's say alcohol, cocaine, speed, that kind of stuff. I mean, the fact that you're 16 and talking about getting off, I mean, how much acid are you doing? How much weed are you smoking?
1:01:49 Caller About like an ounce a week.
1:01:50 Adam Wow. All right. I stand corrected.
1:01:53 Caller Yeah.
1:01:53 Adam All right.
1:01:54 Frank Stallone Just go to MA. Go to a meeting. They can help you.
1:01:58 Caller Without our parents knowing?
1:01:59 Adam Well, listen, you've been doing a ton of drugs and your parents don't know. You don't think you could sneak out to an MA meeting?
1:02:05 Caller Well, her mom works a lot and my dad does too.
1:02:09 Frank Stallone You're making our case for us.
1:02:11 Adam Did they work at the MA headquarters?
1:02:13 Caller No.
1:02:14 Adam All right then, moron. Go over there. What's your point? Our point is you've been doing drugs for quite some time and they haven't caught on, right?
1:02:23 Caller Yeah.
1:02:23 Frank Stallone You can sneak a couple of hours in a meeting three or four days a week, no problem.
1:02:26 Adam You can sneak out to a meeting and they're not going to catch on.
1:02:29 Frank Stallone Right?
1:02:30 Caller Right, yeah.
1:02:31 Frank Stallone Right.
1:02:31 Adam All right. Listen, you're a little bit clouded and you're thinking, Heidi, because you've been high for too long. But listen to us. We know the truth. Go to the MA meeting. That's all you do, okay?
1:02:41 Caller Okay.
1:02:42 Adam And take it from there.
1:02:43 Caller Okay.
1:02:43 Adam And don't get your little brother high.
1:02:44 Caller Okay.
1:02:45 Adam Okay.
1:02:46 Caller Okay.
1:02:47 Adam All right.
1:02:47 Drew That's amazing. An ounce a week at 16 years old.
1:02:50 Adam I'm trying to think. Yeah, that's a fair amount of weed.
1:02:54 Drew And doing acid.
1:02:56 Adam Yeah. You know, here's the thing, too, is just being 16 is like being high on mushrooms. I mean, you think about where your head's at at 16 is like, you got a thousand questions and no answers. Your head's spinning around. You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I mean, you know what I mean? And then on top of that, you get high on mushrooms or just get baked every morning before you hit school. I mean, I couldn't imagine what life would be like. It'd be like you'd be Alice in Wonderland and he fell down the cornhole.
1:03:30 Drew You know, it's amazing. I've met people that is absolutely incredible. They smoke pot every day. I mean, the first thing you do in the morning is light up a boat. And you look at them and they function. I mean, I don't know if they drive and they do everything.
1:03:48 Adam They work. They work a computer at work. I don't know.
1:03:52 Frank Stallone It catches up eventually. And what's really interesting is that some people, after about a year, they start to burn out and get depressed. Some 20 and 30 years later, it takes that long to catch up. And nobody knows why it takes so long.
1:04:04 Drew No, but I mean, like you were saying.
1:04:05 Frank Stallone It always catches up, though. It always does.
1:04:07 Drew Yeah, I mean, it seems like more than alcohol, like you were just saying, these new studies. I mean, if you were smoking that much weed, it's gotta, I mean, there's gotta be a residue or something.
1:04:16 Frank Stallone There is a residue. There actually is a residue. You look at it, it's on electron micrographs, but the damaging effects have not been shown to be significant in adults yet. It's all in teenagers.
1:04:27 Drew Do they think it could be dementia? I mean, could it be?
1:04:30 Frank Stallone Well, it could be, but it doesn't, it's probably not gonna be. The acid and whatnot can cause damage and ecstasy.
1:04:35 Drew I remember when I was in high school, the big thing was these, I never did, these guys used to sniff well wall and glue, and there's a friend of mine that actually basically is a walking, oh, he's a moron. He's like, he's a, I mean, it's, I mean, I saw him at a class reunion. He's basically almost like on a walker in his 40s.
1:04:54 Frank Stallone It's bizarre how people don't understand how delicate the brain is, and how they can be changed by this stuff.
1:05:00 Drew Sniffing glue.
1:05:01 Adam Well, you don't even think of yourself as having a brain when you're a kid. You just think of it as you, your mind. It's sort of this esoteric thing. You think you see with your eyes, and you talk with your mouth, and you breathe with your nose, you know? Your brain is just something that's sort of like so much cotton candy that's stuffed in between your skull, but you don't really look at it as sort of the nerve center.
1:05:22 Drew These guys would have bags of well wall.
1:05:24 Adam What is well wall?
1:05:25 Drew Well wall is like this incredibly strong glue that they use for baseboards and tiles.
1:05:31 Adam Oh yeah.
1:05:31 Drew It's ten times stronger.
1:05:32 Adam It's like it's a mastic basically, right?
1:05:34 Drew Put on with a nice trowel. Yeah, and these guys would have bags, and they sit there and go, Frank, want a huff? These guys would have a bag and go, like take it, and the bag would deplete. I'm there, and they says, yeah man, I'm hearing crickets. They would hear like grasshoppers and crickets. I said, man, you got some deep issues to deal with, Bill.
1:05:52 Adam You're hearing grasshoppers.
1:05:53 Drew Yeah.
1:05:54 Adam Crickets I used to hear when I did stand up at grasshoppers. I don't know. John? John? Hey, caller goes by the name John.
1:06:03 Oh, hey.
1:06:04 Caller There you go.
1:06:05 Adam What's there? What's up there, John? You're 18.
1:06:08 Caller I was reading this book called Hymn for Health. And it was telling me all the stuff about weed, about how it can prevent your eyes getting glaucoma. And it opens up the pressure so you don't get tunnel vision.
1:06:19 Frank Stallone Yeah, the great thing is you don't have glaucoma, John, so it doesn't matter.
1:06:22 Caller Well, that's true. That's true. But it also says that it helps your appetite and all the stuff. And what were you saying about adults not getting brain damage?
1:06:32 Frank Stallone Adults, it's being pretty well proven now that it has damaging effects on teens. Permanent.
1:06:38 Caller It's temporary, though.
1:06:39 Frank Stallone Permanent. But in adults, it's not been proven yet. But what we were saying is, as a characteristic syndrome, there's people smoke a lot that they do get depressed, and they do have problems functioning and whatnot. It's absolutely characteristic of those.
1:06:51 Caller Is the depression permanent, or is that something?
1:06:53 Frank Stallone No, that's transient.
1:06:54 Caller OK, so it's just why you're getting off of it?
1:06:57 Frank Stallone Usually, as it starts sort of wearing off, you no longer get high from it, then you start getting depressed. And then when you come off, you get really depressed, and that goes away usually within six to eight months.
1:07:09 Adam All right.
1:07:10 Caller Yeah, all right.
1:07:11 Adam Hey, John.
1:07:12 Caller Yeah.
1:07:12 Adam Listen to me.
1:07:13 Caller Oh, hey.
1:07:14 Adam You know, I'm a god and a genius.
1:07:17 Frank Stallone A god and a genius.
1:07:17 Adam I'm not one of those moron gods you hear so much about.
1:07:20 Caller Whatever.
1:07:21 Adam Now, listen to me. I hear this night after night. I have a lot of friends who are into this. I'm an atheist. I'm not uptight. I don't like the man. And I smoke weed. I certainly will smoke weed. I think I was baked off my ass last Saturday night.
1:07:35 Caller You want to smoke with me sometime?
1:07:36 Adam Alright.
1:07:37 Caller Alright.
1:07:37 Adam Alright. We'll make a date.
1:07:38 Caller Alright.
1:07:39 Adam Here's my point. Here's my point. And I drink sometimes, too. And sometimes I ate myself a nice big corn beef sandwich the other day. I do a lot of stuff that ain't great. But I don't do that much of it. That's the thing. And don't kid yourself. I know you stoners. I know what you love to do. You spend all your goddamn time on the internet trying to justify what essentially is an addiction. Okay? It's not bad for me. It's not addicting.
1:08:06 Frank Stallone No, no. It's good for me.
1:08:07 Adam It's good for me. And I'm not addicted. Except for it's 330 in the morning. I'm driving to a park to score. You're not addicted. But you're at a park risk in your life, essentially, trying to score 10 bucks worth of weed. And you just got done scraping the hell out of your bong with an open coat hanger, trying to catch a little resin high. But you're not addicted. Listen to me. You are addicted. And stop worrying about whether it's good for you or bad for you. It's like anything. It ain't gonna kill you, but that don't make it good for you. And corn dogs ain't good for you. But if you ate 10 of them every day, something bad would happen to you eventually. I think, I'm no scientist, I think you would turn into a corn dog. Is that right, Drew?
1:08:50 Frank Stallone How'd you know that?
1:08:51 Adam I know.
1:08:52 Frank Stallone You're a genius.
1:08:52 Adam I'm a genius. That's right. So don't kid yourself. You want to smoke a little weed once in a while? Fine, but if you're going to smoke all the time, it's going to affect you.
1:09:00 Frank Stallone I would have said that too, but now the studies I was looking at about teenagers, it looks like even, you know, you got to be over 18, 19.
1:09:05 Adam All right, don't do anything before you're 18.
1:09:07 Frank Stallone The brain... Yeah, the cement's got to be dry.
1:09:10 Drew Why would a teenager, if it was just smoking for a few years, affect them more than someone that had been smoking 30 years?
1:09:17 Frank Stallone Because the brain is still growing.
1:09:18 Drew Oh, I see, I see.
1:09:19 Frank Stallone And it clearly is a different instrument at that point. And I can tell you, having dealt with teenage addicts, it's just a totally different disease at that age, too. I mean, they can stop stuff. They can stop heroin.
1:09:29 Drew I mean, it's teenagers.
1:09:30 Adam Well, look at it this way. You got a little window in your life to learn the piano, to learn the cello, to learn a foreign language. You got that little window in there. That window slammed shut about 18. I mean, let's face it, you ain't going to be fluent in French if you don't start before you're 20. And you're not going to play the cello like some Yo-Yo Ma. If, thank you. Say I wasn't smoking weed, I would have got Yo-Yo's name right out of there. You're not going to play like Yo-Yo unless you start when you're six. And that's where the brain is at. And if you're blowing smoke on it at that age, it's not good for it. Amber.
1:10:07 Caller Yeah.
1:10:08 Adam You're 17.
1:10:09 Caller Yeah.
1:10:09 Adam What's up?
1:10:10 Caller Well, I had sex with my boyfriend and we were both on acid and I'm on estrostep, the pill. And I was just wondering if that would affect it in any way because we didn't use a condom.
1:10:21 Frank Stallone The birth control pill? Well, it's an interesting question. I don't know that it would. Almost anything can. It shouldn't.
1:10:29 Caller Because I'm also a day late. It's not that big of a deal.
1:10:32 Frank Stallone Yeah, it shouldn't.
1:10:33 Caller Yeah.
1:10:34 Adam And a dollar short?
1:10:35 Frank Stallone But it's interesting. It's an interesting question. Almost anything can.
1:10:38 Adam How bizarre was that, having sex high on acid?
1:10:42 Caller Yeah, it was my first time.
1:10:43 Adam Oh, jeez. Your first time you had sex?
1:10:46 Caller No, first time I had acid.
1:10:47 Adam Oh, first time you had acid.
1:10:49 Yeah.
1:10:49 Adam And you were getting it on.
1:10:51 Yeah.
1:10:51 Adam She says isn't sex bizarre enough at 17? You know what I mean? Yeah. Did his penis melt or anything good? You didn't see a trail behind his ass? No. Okay. I understand. Listen, I see a scrotum, a stone cold sober, I freak out and go running out of the room. And you're being high and looking at guys nuts.
1:11:12 Frank Stallone Dark toast tunic.
1:11:13 Adam Yeah, go insane.
1:11:15 Caller Well, I didn't really know what was happening.
1:11:16 Adam Talk about a bad trip.
1:11:17 Drew I think it's like a mollusk or something.
1:11:19 Adam Yeah. I think it was going to eat.
1:11:20 Drew An octopus.
1:11:21 Adam Yeah. Something's going to get eaten, I figure. Hey, Amber. All right. Don't do any more acid.
1:11:28 Frank Stallone Please.
1:11:29 Adam It's not great for your brain. Let your brain dry. Let the cement in your brain dry, all right? Okay. All right. There you go. And listen, if your period doesn't come, then you got to go have a test, right?
1:11:41 Frank Stallone Right as you test, all right.
1:11:42 Adam All right.
1:11:43 Caller Okay. Thank you.
1:11:44 Adam All right. All right. Frank Stallone is our guest. Movie Star is the name of the series, WB, Sunday Nights at 9 o'clock. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we're going to speak to Drew. Yeah. Talk to Emma, 13. I never had a period. Is it still because she masturbates too much? Oh boy. 13. After this. It's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Frank Stallone is our guest tonight. Movie Stars is the name of the series, WB, Nine O'Clock, Sunday Night, and also Full Circle, the name of the CD which is out, and you can find it at amazon.com there. Thanks very much.
1:13:11 Frank Stallone Thank you.
1:13:12 Adam Let's hop back on the phones and speak to Emma. Emma has never had a period and wants to know if it's because she masturbates too much. Emma, I don't know for sure, but I've never had a period and I masturbate excessively so there could be some connection here.
1:13:26 Frank Stallone Some correlation, yeah.
1:13:28 Caller Hi.
1:13:28 Hi.
1:13:30 Caller Yeah, I just wanted to know, I masturbate about four times a week or more, like up to probably seven, because I don't masturbate actually that much. But I've never had my period and-
1:13:42 Adam Do you have an orgasm when you masturbate?
1:13:44 Caller I don't know. I think so.
1:13:47 Adam All right. Listen, what else become of my life? I'm talking to 13-year-olds about orgasms, Drew.
1:13:52 Frank Stallone Questioning whether they've had one yet.
1:13:53 Adam Yeah. I don't know. Okay. Well, maybe you haven't. If you don't know though, why are you masturbating so much?
1:14:01 Caller Because it feels good.
1:14:03 Adam Uh-huh. Anything ever happened to you growing up?
1:14:07 Caller Not really.
1:14:08 Adam Not really? Like what? Anything?
1:14:10 Caller Like four years ago, my dad ran away.
1:14:13 Frank Stallone Ran away.
1:14:14 Caller Well, he was my stepdad and he's like alcoholic.
1:14:18 Adam Where's your real dad?
1:14:19 Caller He visits me. I go and visit him at his house every Thursday and Friday.
1:14:26 Adam You go visit him. How's he doing?
1:14:28 Caller He's good.
1:14:30 Adam And stepdad, alcoholic stepdad?
1:14:33 Caller Yeah.
1:14:34 Adam You're sure real dad's not an alcoholic?
1:14:36 Caller I'm sure.
1:14:38 Adam And was he an alcoholic?
1:14:40 Caller No.
1:14:41 Adam It doesn't make sense. Mom got rid of him and married an alcoholic?
1:14:48 Caller Well, they never got married.
1:14:49 Adam Stepdad and mom never got married?
1:14:52 Caller No. I mean, my biological father and my mom never got married. And then she married my dad.
1:14:56 Frank Stallone Where are we going?
1:14:57 Adam I'm just trying to figure out what's going on here. All right. So he ran away. Did he come back?
1:15:03 Caller No.
1:15:03 Adam OK, good.
1:15:04 Caller Been four years.
1:15:05 Adam All right. Stop diddling yourself so much, especially if you're not having an orgasm. Listen, if I didn't have an orgasm, I'd probably be down to five times a week. Emma? Drew, you're a doctor. Start paying attention. Drew was signing. Oh, I see what was happening. Drew was signing a bunch of autographs during that.
1:15:22 Frank Stallone I was listening to her.
1:15:22 Adam Yeah, you were listening real good. Where are we going here? As he says, signing and not paying attention.
1:15:26 Frank Stallone Where are we going to support you?
1:15:27 Adam Well, she's 13. Would you tell her whether she should have a period or not? Don't give me that puss.
1:15:35 Frank Stallone She will have one. It has nothing to do with the masturbation whatsoever.
1:15:37 Adam I know. Why don't you tell her that? Because you're too busy doing your stuff. You can't wait till a commercial, can you, Drew?
1:15:43 Frank Stallone Impossible. I know.
1:15:45 Adam Drew is so addicted. All right, Emma?
1:15:47 Caller Yeah.
1:15:47 Adam You're fine.
1:15:48 Caller Okay.
1:15:49 Adam Okay. By 13, though, here's what you're supposed to do, Drew. Let me explain your job.
1:15:53 Frank Stallone By 13, many women will have begun their periods, but she's asking, is there an association between that and masturbation? Of course, there's none.
1:15:58 Adam I know. But what percentage of women have begun their period by 13? 80 percent?
1:16:04 Frank Stallone Probably 60, 70 percent, I would bet.
1:16:05 Adam Something like that. All right. So she just may be in that percentile that hasn't. Fine. Thank you, lucky stars. Kevin?
1:16:12 Yep.
1:16:12 Adam You're 18.
1:16:13 Caller Yes, I am.
1:16:14 Adam What's up?
1:16:15 Caller Me and my girlfriend have been having sex probably a month now. And we got to the point where we'd start having sex without a condom, and then we'd stop and put one on and then continue. But then when we start having sex again, it burns her like really bad.
1:16:30 Adam When you start again?
1:16:31 Caller Yeah.
1:16:32 Frank Stallone Is she allergic to latex?
1:16:34 Caller She's before we started having sex without a condom. It never bothered her before.
1:16:38 Frank Stallone Why don't you try the polyurethane or the animal skin?
1:16:40 Adam Didn't she just ask that?
1:16:41 Frank Stallone Yeah.
1:16:42 Adam Okay. Hey.
1:16:43 Drew Or KY or something.
1:16:45 Adam Hey, Kevin. Yeah. See, Drew asked if she was allergic to latex. And your answer was before she put the condom on.
1:16:52 Frank Stallone She was fine.
1:16:52 Adam She was fine. So you're saying maybe she is, right?
1:16:55 Caller Yeah. And she starts bleeding and stuff.
1:16:58 Adam But it seems to me there'd be a lubrication factor here. It's like you have sex, then you pull out, you go get the condom on. There's a little added friction with that condom. And then maybe she dries up a little bit, and then you just jump right back in, right?
1:17:12 Caller We'll slowly start.
1:17:14 Adam Right. But it seems to me there might be a little lubrication thing.
1:17:18 Caller They're lubricated condoms.
1:17:19 Adam It's like playing the first half of a basketball game barefoot and then putting your sneakers on for the second half. It's weird.
1:17:26 Frank Stallone You could try a polyurethane. You could try animal skin if you guys are not worried about STDs.
1:17:32 Adam Try putting the condom on at the beginning and getting yourself a nice Poma Axle Grease going there before you get in there.
1:17:39 All right?
1:17:40 Frank Stallone Non-patrolling-based Axle Grease.
1:17:42 Adam That's right. Whatever it takes. Listen, that's a euphemism for KY.
1:17:46 Drew Why would you start and then all of a sudden like you're just saying, well, just a minute, my new piece of discharge can just get her pregnant.
1:17:55 Frank Stallone Everyone has that discharge. So everyone has that.
1:17:58 Adam Not me.
1:17:59 Drew You wouldn't be aware of it.
1:18:01 Adam No, I know it.
1:18:02 Drew So it could be just minuscule.
1:18:04 Frank Stallone Everybody has. And that could get her girl pregnant. It's actually, some people believe that in certain studies, it's shown that that little discharge is more potent. That pretty much all men except Adam have.
1:18:13 Adam That's right.
1:18:13 Frank Stallone Is highly concentrated in sperm.
1:18:15 Adam Let me tell you something. I could get an erection. I could go at myself for a half an hour, and then you could take a small piece of tissue like you'd use to-
1:18:26 Frank Stallone A slide, a glass slide.
1:18:28 Adam No, you could take a piece of tissue like you'd use to stop bleeding on a neck from shaving. Put it at the end of my urethra and it would flutter down to the floor until I had my orgasm.
1:18:38 Drew Now what do you think would happen if you put a septic pencil in your-
1:18:42 Adam A stiptic pencil in there? I'd probably take a swing at you. That would be painful.
1:18:47 Drew That would be rude, by the way.
1:18:48 Adam Drew, could you imagine?
1:18:49 Frank Stallone Ow.
1:18:50 Adam Those are, by the way, one of the most effective inventions ever, those stiptic pencils. Oh, man. Those salt pencils that stop the bleeding. As I tell you, I'll get a nick shaving, that thing will be bleeding for 18 months to a year. It's disgusting. Why does your head bleed so much, Drew? What's up with that?
1:19:06 Frank Stallone Is it your face or your head?
1:19:08 Adam Your face.
1:19:09 Drew Yeah.
1:19:10 Adam It's scary.
1:19:11 Drew They said people used to die from the fear of the procedure when you had, in the old days, of syphilis or something, when they have to take it to catheter and go right down your penis with it. They said it's almost like rabies. People die of rabies because the medicine was like 13 or 18 needles that would go right through your stomach like that long for just for rabies test.
1:19:35 Adam Yeah, Drew, what is that? You don't hear about the rabies so much anymore. When I was a kid, that's all I heard about. Rabies, rabies, rabies.
1:19:41 Drew Don't touch that squirrel.
1:19:42 Adam You get rabies, you'll have to get 150 shots, the needles as long as a sprinkler cake.
1:19:47 Frank Stallone It doesn't work like that anymore.
1:19:48 Adam No? Yeah. Why can't kids suffer like we did? Mike? Oh, hey. Let's see, the dentists still make them suffer.
1:19:56 Drew That's right.
1:19:57 Adam Mike, yeah, it's great. I loved about the dentists. Every single time I go to the dentist, I go, why, isn't there any kind of breakthrough? And they go, breakthrough? Are you kidding me? They now have lasers that work in place of drills. I go, fine, get it out. Oh, we don't have one. Okay, fine then. They never have it. They just like to brag about, you know, it's on a drawing board somewhere.
1:20:16 Drew We can put toggle bolts in your gums to put new teeth in, other kinds of stuff.
1:20:20 Caller And the dentist still hurt now.
1:20:21 Adam I know.
1:20:21 Caller I gotta go get my wisdom teeth taken out this Thursday.
1:20:24 Adam Oh.
1:20:24 Drew Well, can I give you a hint on that? I had four taken out at once, impacted wisdom teeth. Believe me, trust me on this, my friend. Make sure you are out.
1:20:35 Caller Oh, yeah.
1:20:35 Drew Don't even say, hey, I'll take it like a man because your face is gonna look like you swallowed the sea of China.
1:20:40 Adam No way.
1:20:42 Caller I told them to make sure I was gone.
1:20:43 Drew Yeah, make sure you're way out.
1:20:44 Adam Hey, Mike, what's your question?
1:20:46 Caller Me and my girlfriend have been going out for a long while now and about two months ago I cheated on her and I lost her trust pretty bad but she managed to take me back after about a month and I lost her trust and I'm trying to find a way to get it back.
1:21:01 Adam Well, she took you back, right?
1:21:03 Frank Stallone Isn't that a sign that she's trusting something?
1:21:05 Caller Yeah, she is.
1:21:06 Frank Stallone She's just beating you up about it for the meantime. That's all.
1:21:09 Adam That's all right.
1:21:10 Frank Stallone You deserve it.
1:21:11 Adam Yeah, how'd she find out you cheated?
1:21:13 Caller Oh, I told her.
1:21:15 Adam What's up with that?
1:21:15 Drew That was the first mistake.
1:21:17 Adam Yeah, what kind of thinking is that? Huh?
1:21:20 Caller Because I couldn't live with myself like that. I had to tell her.
1:21:23 Adam Really? I don't understand that instinct. I couldn't live with getting my ass kicked around by a woman for any real length of time.
1:21:31 Caller Back in the beginning of high school, I used to cheat a lot. It wouldn't bother me. At this time, I really care about her, so I had to.
1:21:38 Adam I understand, but see, here's my strategy. I really care about someone. I had an indiscretion. I'm never going to do it again, and I'm going to make it up to them, but I'm not going to crush them by telling them about it. And I got to be honest. If I had a girlfriend who had some business in New York for a couple of days, had a few cocktails, hopped on some guy, and she wanted to come back and just be extra guilty and extra sexual and extra cook a few meals or whatever, I'd be happy with that.
1:22:10 Drew Would you want to know? No, no.
1:22:12 Adam Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
1:22:14 Drew Why?
1:22:15 Adam What's in it for you?
1:22:16 Frank Stallone But you wonder if this guy is trying to sabotage something.
1:22:19 Adam You do. Now listen, if we're talking about an ongoing affair, I'd want to know about it. But if she went out with a couple of her girlfriends, had a few cocktails, and hooked up with some guy while she was out of town, and then wanted to come back and be extra guilty, I'd be fine. I wouldn't even know it, wouldn't care, be happy about it. And, you know, unless I smelled some forward penis, then that's something else. I can sniff that out. All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. First, we're going to say hi to Candice. Candice, you're 14?
1:22:53 Caller Yeah.
1:22:54 Adam Your mom told you she was molested?
1:22:57 Caller No, I was.
1:22:58 Adam But you don't remember it?
1:22:59 Caller No, I was real a long time ago when I was like in preschool.
1:23:03 Adam Yeah.
1:23:04 Caller And she told me, I don't know, we were talking about something. And she told me, and I just want to know because I listen all the time and there's girls that are like so messed up because it's happened to them. And I want to know if it can affect me even though I don't remember it.
1:23:19 Frank Stallone What was the molestation? What kind of molestation?
1:23:21 Caller Well, I guess from like ladies, because it was the preschool I went to. Some ladies at work, they're like touched me or something down there or whatever.
1:23:30 Frank Stallone That may not be a big deal.
1:23:31 Adam Hold on a second there, Candace. It doesn't seem like a great strategy by mom to tell the kid, hey, you're 14. I know you got a lot on your mind. Here's something else to add to that. I was like, my dad pulled that crap. He told me I was born a woman and had some surgery that I can't remember around six months. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's rough, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. Gets you thinking, you know? Gets you wondering. It does answer a few questions, though. I'll tell you that. Oh, quite a few.
1:23:58 Frank Stallone But what about the hairy ass?
1:24:00 Adam Apparently, that's a graft. My uncle Lou had a lot of hair on his backside. We were able to graft it. It was a move that didn't pay off.
1:24:08 Frank Stallone Cosmetic miracles.
1:24:09 Adam The doctors, they want to do such a great job of me being a man. They actually went a little overboard on the ass hair.
1:24:15 Frank Stallone I thought they used some sort of animal pelts or something, no? They used raccoon skin or something?
1:24:20 Adam It was a beaver pelk.
1:24:23 Drew Navajo blanket or something.
1:24:25 Adam That's right. We'll take ourselves a little break. Frank Stallone is our guest and we'll get back with Candice and her molestation mom after this.
1:24:36 Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
1:25:07 Adam Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. He is Dr. Drew over there. Frank Stallone is our guest tonight. Movie Stars is the name of the show. Sunday Nights, WB, 9 o'clock. Also, Full Circle, the CD out on amazon.com. And again, Goo Goo Dolls and Save Ferris in the studio later on this week. So, where's your brother Sly Live?
1:25:35 Drew He's back out here. He was living in Florida for a while. And then, with the old saying, is out of sight, out of mind.
1:25:43 Adam Yeah, so he's back here.
1:25:45 Drew Yeah, so.
1:25:46 Adam Yeah, he had like a big compound.
1:25:48 Drew It was huge. The helm was like 27,000 square feet. It was an old home that my father just wanted him to get as an investment. He ended up putting so much money. It had like, it had a wine cellar that was the size of someone's house. It was very old and it was cold in there. So we used to go in there and put these big fur like mountain coats and sit there. Just the guys with the hunk of cheese, like Vikings and just sit there and get ripped.
1:26:15 Adam Oh, that sounds great.
1:26:16 Drew Oh, with a chilled vodka and every, I mean, thousands of bottles. I mean, you'd never leave there. I mean, it would have been like one of the, like Robert Mitchel or someone who loved, or leave Marvin would have never left the place. But it was great. And I spent most of my time fishing. The fishing was like on his pier was like nonstop. I'd catch like 30, 40 mangrove snappers a day.
1:26:38 Adam What a dream. I mean, fishing off your own land. You're like an Indian except for you have satellite TV and big screen.
1:26:47 Drew And Madonna is your neighbor.
1:26:49 Adam Yeah. Oh my God.
1:26:51 Drew I got to tell you something, man. I don't dig Florida. My father lives down there. That's maybe why he had the kid, you know, the heat or something. The humidity. But Florida, I was there in the early late 60s and 70s in Coconut Grove. And it was kind of, hey, wow, daddy, you know, art. I just think it's a jive city. I mean, I like some of the people there, but it just reminds me of like Vegas or Palm Springs.
1:27:15 Adam Well, if people don't realize about Florida, it's south. I mean, it's white trash. It's a waffle hut. Waffle house. Waffle house every 15 feet.
1:27:25 Drew And everything is fried ice cream, chicken fries.
1:27:28 Adam It's weird. You know, you always think of the Carolinas and places like that, but you don't think of Florida. But you go to Florida and there's a few, there's a few hotspots in there, but in between is a lot of the south, a lot of, a lot of rednecks.
1:27:43 Drew You get outside of Miami, you get in Chattahoochee and I mean, in Gashdalkum, it's deliverance time.
1:27:48 Adam That's right.
1:27:48 Drew It's dueling banjos.
1:27:49 Adam That's right. Banjos and waffles.
1:27:51 Drew Dueling waffles.
1:27:52 Adam I think they like a banjo because it really looks the most like a waffle of any instrument. It's got that big round white bass, you know. You think about it, a, like a cello or violin, doesn't look anything like a waffle. I think they base-
1:28:05 Drew And a tambourine, they play as a waffle.
1:28:07 Adam Oh, they ate the tambourine.
1:28:08 Caller Yeah, they ate that.
1:28:09 Adam That they ate.
1:28:10 Drew And spoons, which they probably give themselves.
1:28:12 Frank Stallone Actually, the pans look like a waffle maker.
1:28:16 Adam Yeah, yeah. Well, whatever, just as long as it's in the waffle family.
1:28:19 Drew And they played the spoons down there.
1:28:23 Frank Stallone Caller who goes by Chip.
1:28:24 Adam Chip, you're 25.
1:28:25 Caller Buenos nachos, amigos.
1:28:26 Adam What's up?
1:28:28 Caller Well, I was just hearing you guys talk about the South, and I did a lot of karaoke bar and waffle house hopping over there in Charlotte. So I know what you guys are talking about. I just had a couple of quick questions. And the first one would be, I was having sexual relations with a girl last year, and she turned up, you know, pregnant. And she was told by doctors that it was almost impossible for her. She was barren and that she would never be, she could never get pregnant. But then she ended up turning up pregnant. It was about a few weeks after I had sex with her. And she was very elusive as far as, you know, confronting me about it. And she claimed to me that she had sex with a, she was having a sexual relationship with another man prior to me, about a couple of weeks. So there was like a week gap there. And I was just wondering what she's supposed to be doing anytime like this year. And if the father, the guy she's living with now, he's accepting responsibility for the baby.
1:29:37 Adam All right, good.
1:29:38 Caller And so I was just curious if maybe you or Drew knew that if that individual signs the birth certificate.
1:29:48 Adam Listen, hey Chip, here's how you know if it's your kid. If he's super boring.
1:29:53 Frank Stallone And long-winded.
1:29:53 Adam And long-winded and can't get to his goddamn question, he's probably one of yours. Oh, for Christ's sake. I don't know. Listen, if the guy signs the birth certificate, and he raises the child's if it was his own, fine. Done. Don't think about it anymore. I don't know. I don't think he wants to have a DNA test.
1:30:15 Drew Is she after him? Is she after him?
1:30:16 Adam I don't know. I'm scared to go back to him. Chip? Yeah, Adam. Is she coming after you?
1:30:22 Caller Well, I haven't received the summons yet, so I don't...
1:30:26 Adam You haven't. All right, good.
1:30:28 Frank Stallone Wouldn't the correct answer then, Chip B? No.
1:30:30 Caller Okay, well...
1:30:31 Adam Yeah, but that didn't have enough syllables in it.
1:30:33 Caller Yeah.
1:30:36 Adam He likes to rip. Yeah, it's like...
1:30:37 Frank Stallone He was going to go in for another five minutes. Response to that.
1:30:40 Adam Well, it's like, yes, either someone is coming after you or they're not. Right. It's like, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's the deal, Chip.
1:30:49 Drew Too many Waffle houses.
1:30:50 Adam I rarely say this, but just wait. You know, cross this bridge when you come to it. If she, if you, if some marshals come to the door, you get subpoenaed, what have you, she contacts you, then call us back. All right. We're going to now speak to Angela, who's 17. Angela, what's up?
1:31:11 Caller What's up? Okay. My question is, first, I'll tell you that when I was about 12, I started drinking alcohol, like socializing, you know, and for about six months, probably, it was just basically every other weekend, you know, partying with my friends. Then it got kind of like once.
1:31:33 Frank Stallone We got a chip on our hands here.
1:31:35 Adam Your chip off the old chip. Okay.
1:31:38 Caller Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:31:39 Caller Well, basically, okay, basically, yeah, I've had, okay, it gradually went into like three days a week. I was drinking a lot.
1:31:48 Frank Stallone What's your question? What's the question?
1:31:49 Adam We got the picture. I'm going to need a shot after this.
1:31:52 Caller Okay, okay, I'll wrap it up.
1:31:54 Adam We're so brutal. What's your job? Brutalize tormented teenagers.
1:32:02 Caller Well, anyways, I saw a shrink for about a year when I was about 14.
1:32:06 Frank Stallone To state the question now, we'll tell you what historical details we need.
1:32:09 Caller Well, lately, you know, I've been like, the thought of alcohol like has been making me like want it a lot.
1:32:16 Frank Stallone Of course, and that's what the problem is with alcoholism is that it's not about stopping. It's about staying stopped. And once you've triggered the reward systems in the brain to anticipate a certain level reward, any sorts of triggers or stimuli or need for escape will re-ignite these very powerful drives. And the drives are basically a hijacking of the survival system of the brain. It's actually that part of the brain is responsible for the drive for survival that now gets hijacked by these chemicals in genetically prone individuals and intensified. So it's even, it's a survival mechanism that's actually more intense than what would occur in nature and direct it at substances.
1:32:54 Adam All right, so AA, right?
1:32:56 Frank Stallone Yep.
1:32:56 Adam There you go. Becky?
1:32:58 Frank Stallone Yeah.
1:32:58 Adam And don't go to Sylvester Stallone's basement in Florida. He'll never come out of that place. They all hopped up on cheese and vodka.
1:33:07 Frank Stallone We're just talking about Angel almost went out.
1:33:09 Adam Jesus Christ. I just thought about that block of cheese and all that wine in a big basement with the big raccoon coat on. I really started getting wood.
1:33:16 Drew It was the best.
1:33:16 Adam I thought, this is the best. What a time.
1:33:19 Drew And the pool room was brought over from like the 19th century, a whole old room and a pool table. It was like the guys' hangout of all time.
1:33:28 Adam Oh my God.
1:33:29 Drew And we'd have like 20 guys.
1:33:30 Frank Stallone He's getting rid of that house?
1:33:31 Drew He got rid of it. He sold it.
1:33:33 Adam What did he sell it for? Just for fun.
1:33:35 Drew I think it was $27 million.
1:33:37 Caller Jesus. Who bought it?
1:33:38 Frank Stallone Who can buy a house like that?
1:33:39 Drew Probably Aqnod.
1:33:40 Adam Aqnod, the Arab?
1:33:41 Caller Yeah.
1:33:43 Caller Yeah, this would be good summer home for me, my friend.
1:33:47 Drew Yeah, one of those type of things, yeah.
1:33:48 Adam Oh my God.
1:33:48 Drew I mean, I don't know who could buy it. I mean.
1:33:51 Adam I don't know.
1:33:52 Drew A guy like Bill Gates could sit there and write, well, a few weeks ago, could just sit there and write a check.
1:33:56 Adam Well, he could sell it. Well, I mean.
1:33:58 Drew In two seconds.
1:33:59 Adam Does he get another million because it was his house?
1:34:02 Drew Oh, yeah.
1:34:03 Adam I mean, does he get a few more million because it was his house?
1:34:06 Drew It could be. And the thing was he paid like six for it. And the property was huge. It was next to, it was part of the John Deere Estate, John Deere Tractor.
1:34:16 Adam Right.
1:34:16 Drew And it was the Vizcaya Castle property. It was bought to be a place. Investment wise, it was incredible to fix the house up.
1:34:24 Frank Stallone Was it actually the Vizcaya Palace?
1:34:26 Drew Part of it. It was his grand, it was his niece's place. But the property was incredible, but he put so much money. He just went into a rampage on it. It had elevators. And it was, you know, it was just huge and it was just too big. And, you know, it was just, I mean, it had elevators. It was like, I mean, the guest house was big as most people's homes. I mean, but the property, you needed a golf cart to get across the property.
1:34:50 Adam Please tell me your brother is still miserable like us.
1:34:53 Drew They never have.
1:34:54 Adam Yeah. OK, good.
1:34:55 Drew I'm sitting there doing a sitcom. He's there. I've been on. I said, so what? You do one movie, you can retire forever. You never, you know, we're sitting here, like, doing like, yeah.
1:35:06 Adam Good. Good. I'm glad. Becky, you're 18. We're out of show. Hi. You're verbally abused.
1:35:13 Frank Stallone No, he's verbally abused to her boyfriend. She can't stop.
1:35:15 Adam You are?
1:35:16 Frank Stallone Stop.
1:35:17 Caller And I don't know what to do.
1:35:18 Adam All right. You start chewing taffy.
1:35:21 Frank Stallone What?
1:35:22 Adam Just stop it. You know you're doing it.
1:35:24 Frank Stallone I know.
1:35:24 Adam When you start doing it, stop.
1:35:27 Frank Stallone You have to be willing to change. And that change can be painful to admit that you're doing something that makes you feel a little ashamed. Just change. Go ahead.
1:35:34 Adam And by the way, everyone, do not announce in front of God and everyone that you can't stop something when you can, because that gives you an out if you really think about it. I don't want to sound too self-righteous here. But here's the deal. If you're announcing everyone, hey, I'm doing this and I can't stop, I can't stop, I can't stop, that's your out. Say, I choose not to stop or I'm not stopping, but I'd like to and do it. All right, we'll take a break.
1:35:59 Caller Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. Back in a minute.
1:36:02 Adam Well, it's worth hearing.
1:36:41 Caller They're like clubs.
1:36:42 Adam Hey, all right, that is it. Frank, don't bother putting those on. We're done with the show. I'm going to Frank, I'm going to Frank, Frank Stallone.
1:36:49 Drew This was terrific. Thank you so much for having me on.
1:36:52 Frank Stallone Give him a big plug. Come on.
1:36:53 Drew Watch you guys on TV.
1:36:54 Adam Sunday night, movie stars, WB, 9 o'clock and full circle.
1:36:58 Frank Stallone In the play? In the CD or the album?
1:37:01 Adam Full Circle, which is, thank you, Drew, is the name of the CD, which you can find on amazon.com. Go out and support our friends. And thanks, Frank.
1:37:11 Drew Well, thank you, guys. It was a great experience.
1:37:13 Adam Nice to meet you. And until next time, is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo.
1:37:27 Drew Well, now.
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