Episode 1000754887493

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0:16 Voiceover The phone number for Loveline is 1-800-LOVE-191.

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0:29 Adam Is that how the contraceptive depravera works? It just kills your sex drive?

0:33 Drew No, but it's an interesting sort of potential for its use there. Maybe we ought to be spreading it around.

0:39 Adam Yeah, like putting it in the drinking water like fluoride. No, why not? We put fluoride in the drinking water. Why? Just for the greater good. That's right. Why not do this? More importantly. Wait till I'm in charge. I'm going to stand at that aqueduct. I'm going to be dumping in birth control and mood stabilizers and Vicodin and maybe just a eye of newt. Oh, wow. Oh, it's going to be a big witch's brew that comes out of your faucet.

1:09 Drew I know it delights you to think that way.

1:11 Is there anything as safe as Zephyr Pivera?

1:13 Drew As safe as? Sure.

1:14 Excuse me, as effective as controlling birth that isn't as killer on the sex drive?

1:22 Drew Yeah. I mean, all the oral contraceptive pills, there are a couple of versions that actually tend to enhance sex drive. So the triphasic pills, the triphasol and ortho 7-7, whatnot, these can actually increase sex drive. So after she's three months after her last shot, she may want to switch over to the pill. Okay.

1:41 Okay. Thanks, guys.

1:42 Adam All right, Ivan. It's weird when a caller gets off the phone with us.

1:47 Drew I mean, quickly, without us cutting them off?

1:49 Adam Yeah.

1:49 Drew Somebody says goodbye.

1:50 Adam Our callers are sort of, I was caught off guard there. Our callers are like insurance salesmen, and you run into them at a party. You know, for the last 20 minutes, you've been trying to wiggle your way out of the conversation. Well, you know, the wife's, she's a little under the weather, so I ought to be, or I got to piss, or you know, the keg looks like it's about empty. I'm going to run out there before.

2:11 Drew Sometimes I even start those conversations with, you know, I'm in a big hurry, I've got to leave in 10 minutes, I got to be out of here.

2:16 Adam Oh yes. They love to talk. Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-44-55. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Tonight, our guest will be the band Propellerheads. Now, actually, just Alex Gifford from Propellerheads, and he will be in here, what?

2:41 Drew Two guys in the band, right?

2:43 Adam Yeah. We just got one of them.

2:44 Drew Okay.

2:44 Adam So we got 50% of the band.

2:46 Drew All the way in from England. Is he out here now?

2:49 Adam Is Alex out here now? No.

2:51 Drew They're both?

2:52 Adam No, one of them is still in England.

2:53 Drew I see.

2:54 Adam Alex is here.

2:55 Drew I see.

2:55 Adam And has he moved out here, I guess, is your question.

2:57 Drew That was my question.

2:58 Adam I think the answer to that is no.

2:59 Okay. All right.

3:00 Adam But we can find out from him when he comes in here in about 10 minutes. All right, until then, we'll dredge forward. Jade.

3:07 Drew Jade is called, apparently, two of the last three nights, something like that. Jade.

3:10 I am here. Hi.

3:11 Drew What's going on?

3:13 I just want to know if a boy is molested as a young boy, will he grow up to be a pedophile?

3:21 Drew Certainly, that is a recipe for that, but it doesn't necessarily mean that.

3:26 How do you know?

3:27 Drew You don't know. I don't know what circumstances. In other words, if you knew a child had been sexually abused as a youngster, how would you raise them, or what emotional support would you give them to decrease the probability that that would happen? I mean, one of the things you would, I mean, obviously, you know, anything that contributes to emotional health and security and sense of self-worth, you want to create a real stable environment for him, get treatment for him, help him establish relationships that are intimate with friends, and as he gets older with other people.

3:54 Adam Not too intimate, but you got to understand this. Whenever they do these tests, or these, whenever they throw statistics at you, understand that the kid who is involved in molestation, or who is brought up in a family where there is molestation, it's not only the molestation that is the driving force, but there's the family that's feeling him up.

4:19 Drew Or the circumstances in the family that lead to him being prone to be victimized. Right. You understand? That's a feature that it's hard to separate out from the fact of the victimization.

4:30 Adam Well, what I'm saying is, we got you, right? Yeah, you got me, Drew, but I don't know if everyone else has me.

4:36 Drew Say it again.

4:36 Adam I'm just saying, it's not like you pulled, you know, Ozzy, one of Ozzy and Harriet's kids got molested and then thrust back in with Ozzy and Harriet. Most of the time, if you're a kid whose grandfather or father is feeling you up, that is your immediate family. That is what you're growing up around. There's alcoholism, there's confusion. So, not only is the molestation driving you in the future, but it's just growing up in total chaos above and beyond molestation.

5:04 Drew That or if, say, a perpetrator is from outside the family, what was it that led the kid to be such a fertile victim? What made him stray from the family and be able to be victimized in that way? Because that says something about the family too sometimes.

5:18 Adam Right.

5:19 Drew Oftentimes. Right, Jade?

5:20 Adam Why? What happened?

5:23 I've been dating my boyfriend for nine months, and he just told me about three days ago that he's pretty sure his sister, his stepdad did stuff to his sister, and he does not know for sure if anything happened to him.

5:37 Drew Well, here's the data on men and women who are abused or young kids that are, that the basic, and I just read this in the journal the other day, and I thought it really met with my experience of all this, and that is that the predominant pattern, just in great generalities, are if a young boy is abused, the male tends to grow up to be somebody who objectifies other people and who tends to be a victimizer or a user, so to speak, while women...

6:03 Adam So he could be a producer.

6:05 Drew So while women tend to... Or just be in radio all the time.

6:09 Oh, TV.

6:11 Adam Sure.

6:11 Drew Or the women tend to...

6:12 Adam Agent, casting agent, publicist...

6:14 Drew .tend to pursue power by, again, objectifying men, but using them as a way to try to develop a position of power and power over that man.

6:24 All right.

6:24 Adam But if it was an isolated thing and happened on one occasion, the guy's 25, 28 now, you've been seeing him for a while, he doesn't have a history of anything, it's not like he's going to snap on his 30th birthday.

6:35 Drew Much more serious concern she needs to be worried about is whether or not he's capable of having intimate relationships, and if he has them, are they going to be terribly chaotic?

6:42 Adam Shell, you're 20.

6:45 Caller Yeah.

6:45 Caller Hey.

6:47 Caller Hello. Well, I'm a problem, well, I'm just wondering if it's a good idea for me.

6:54 Adam What's going on in the background there, Shell?

6:56 Caller Okay, hold on, let me turn it off.

6:58 Adam Okay, well hang on, let's see. Chris.

7:02 Yeah?

7:03 Adam You're 20.

7:03 Caller Yeah, hi.

7:04 Adam What's going on?

7:05 Caller I just started seeing this guy like two weeks ago, and he asked me if I ever slept with a girl, and I have like six months ago, and then he asked me if I ever had a threesome.

7:16 Drew Let me stop right there for a second. What the hell is with a guy that would know enough, I mean, would think to ask that question two weeks into a relationship.

7:25 Caller I don't know.

7:26 Drew But then the answer is, oh yeah, just a couple months ago. I mean, how did a guy, you know what I'm saying?

7:33 Caller Yeah.

7:34 Caller How would he?

7:35 Adam Well, he probably met her at a strip joint or something.

7:37 Caller Me?

7:38 Caller Yeah.

7:38 No.

7:39 Caller No.

7:40 Caller Sorry.

7:40 Adam Okay.

7:41 Caller Anyway.

7:42 Adam He may have just been part of the normal melon thumping process a guy goes through when he's meeting a new girl.

7:50 Drew Why don't you get out of the relationship right then?

7:52 Adam You know what he's up to? Not necessarily.

7:54 Drew You know what he's up to.

7:55 Adam No. You know. You've gone out with women and asked them questions about their past fairly early in the relationship. Sure you have. Chris?

8:05 Caller Yeah?

8:06 Adam Okay. So, what was your answer to him?

8:08 Caller Well, I said yes.

8:11 Caller I was with a girl like six months ago. And then he asked me if I ever had a threesome. Well, when I was with the girl six months ago, there was also a guy in there.

8:22 Caller So I also said yes to that.

8:25 Adam Well, did you have sex with the guy?

8:28 Caller Well, yeah.

8:29 Adam All right, so you did have a threesome.

8:33 Yeah.

8:35 Adam OK.

8:35 Drew Why is that so mysterious to you right now?

8:37 Adam No, I just mean the way she said it was, is the guy said, were you with a girl? And she said, yeah. And then he said, did you ever have a threesome? And she said, well, the time I was with the girl, there was a guy in there too. So I said yes. But it sounded to me like that was a technicality, like the guy may have just been cleaning the carpet or something. Pardon the pun. But he had a threesome?

9:01 Caller Yeah.

9:01 Adam Okay.

9:02 Caller Okay.

9:03 Caller And then he asked if we could have a threesome.

9:06 Drew Imagine that.

9:07 Adam Right.

9:08 Caller I mean, I've only known him for two weeks.

9:10 Adam Right.

9:10 Caller And I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I should. I don't know.

9:14 Drew Chris, what do you want to do?

9:16 Caller I don't know. I'm not really sure.

9:18 Drew No, wait a minute. What do you want to do?

9:20 Caller Well, I don't even know him.

9:21 Drew Yes, of course not.

9:23 Adam Well, do you know the guy in the threesome?

9:25 Drew Well, no, wait a minute. Don't bugger it that way.

9:29 Adam You know her for an hour and 45 minutes.

9:30 Drew But do you want to have a relationship with this guy?

9:33 Caller Yeah.

9:33 Drew Do you think that having a threesome is a good way to establish that?

9:36 Caller No.

9:36 Drew Is that the kind of relationship you want to have with this guy?

9:38 Caller No.

9:38 Drew Would that meet your needs in the relationship to have a threesome?

9:41 Caller No.

9:42 Drew All right. Stay with that. That is absolutely where you should be and demand that. You just got over the compulsion to have threesomes.

9:50 Adam Well, yeah. But see, now this is going to haunt the guy.

9:53 Drew Too bad.

9:54 Adam This may be the wrong guy.

9:56 Drew Yes.

9:57 Adam It may have been too much too soon.

9:59 Drew Yes. I mean, too much information. To my guess, he's the wrong guy, just kind of questioning he was doing to begin with.

10:06 Adam Yeah.

10:07 Drew And of course, Chris is into him, so he probably is the wrong guy by definition.

10:11 Adam Well, I'll go with yeah. You've had sex with this guy, right?

10:14 Caller Yeah.

10:15 Adam And where did you meet him?

10:18 Caller Actually, I met him down in Mexico.

10:20 Adam Great. What was he doing? He's some sort of a heroin mule?

10:24 Caller No, he was just like visiting.

10:27 Adam Visiting Mexico?

10:28 Caller Yeah, we were all down there.

10:29 Caller What part?

10:31 Caller Rocky Point.

10:32 Adam Rocky Point?

10:33 Caller Yeah.

10:34 Adam In Mexico?

10:35 Yeah.

10:36 Adam Do the Mexicans call it Rocky Point?

10:38 Caller No, I don't know what it's really called.

10:41 Adam All right, because you should have Mexican names. Although, you know, I live in LA and if you're not on El Vera Street, you're on Las Villas and you're heading into the San Fernando Valley. So I guess that is North Hollywood. Was he a famous general in the Spanish-American War? All right, Chris, we don't trust this guy. We don't trust you.

11:05 Drew You don't trust me. No, we don't trust your instincts.

11:07 Adam Right.

11:07 Drew We trust you as a person, but we don't trust your instincts. And I'm just telling you, you should trust your instincts to stand by what it is you want out of a relationship and not be so focused on the guy. But be careful with your instincts in terms of who you choose.

11:21 Caller Yeah.

11:21 Adam You're 20.

11:22 Caller Yeah.

11:23 Drew All right.

11:23 Adam You've turned down the TV.

11:24 Caller I'm sorry.

11:25 Adam That's all right. What's going on?

11:29 Caller Okay. I'm just wondering if it's a good idea for me to break up with my boyfriend right now, because he doesn't have time for me and it doesn't take time for me.

11:41 He always work and I believe that if you really love and care for the person, no matter what, you know, no matter what world you're into, you always take time to spend with an important person.

11:55 Adam Once you do at work.

11:57 Caller Some kind of computer thing.

12:00 Drew How much is not enough time? How much time does he actually spend with you?

12:04 Caller No time at all.

12:05 Drew He never sees you?

12:06 Caller Never sees me within a month now.

12:08 Drew A month he hasn't seen you?

12:10 Caller Yeah, I called me once.

12:12 Drew He's called you once. How could he be your boyfriend?

12:15 Yeah, and my friends told me I have to be patient because you know I have to understand.

12:20 Drew No, I'd be patient for a week.

12:22 Adam That's funny. Friends give the wrong advice even though they run the gamut in wrong advice. Like there's certain people that give you the wrong advice but it's consistently wrong. Our caller's friends give them the wrong advice 100% of the time. If the girl is with a guy too much, they give one set of advice, it's wrong. And if he's not there, and he's only there once a month, he tells him to stick it out. Wrong again.

12:51 Drew A month is long enough.

12:53 Adam Unless there's something you're not telling us.

12:55 Drew He hasn't gone to Sri Lanka or something.

12:56 Adam He didn't go to Saudi Arabia to work on some sort of project at the Sultan's Place.

13:03 Caller No, he didn't go. He just worked right down there.

13:05 Adam Hold on. I love when you throw a bizarre hypothetical out, and because it can't be unsubstantiated, they're gonna just go, I don't know. He's not-

13:15 Drew He might be.

13:15 Adam He's not working with NASA on some sort of Viking project that's top secret. Could be.

13:26 Caller All right, where's Shell?

13:28 Adam Shell?

13:29 Caller Yeah.

13:29 Adam All right, so he's not spending time with you?

13:31 Caller No.

13:31 Adam Okay.

13:31 Caller You can ask him.

13:32 Caller I'm like, what can I do?

13:33 Adam Okay, next month when he calls you, break up with him.

13:36 Caller I know.

13:36 I can't wait for next month.

13:38 Drew Doesn't sound like a boyfriend to me.

13:39 Adam Well, why don't you call him and break up with him?

13:41 Caller I cannot. I don't think-

13:42 He's not at home.

13:44 Adam Okay, well, then next month when he calls you, break up with him.

13:47 Drew You can start dating somebody else.

13:49 Caller If I could just do it right now.

13:50 Drew Send him a letter. Send him a telegram. We're through.

13:54 Adam Email.

13:55 Caller I don't- That doesn't have any email.

13:57 Drew He's at the computer all the time.

13:59 Caller I know.

13:59 Adam Hey, Shell, hold on. Do you have the guy's home phone number?

14:03 Drew Does he have an answering machine?

14:04 Caller No, they don't.

14:05 Drew They?

14:07 Caller They don't.

14:07 Drew He and his wife?

14:08 Caller What?

14:09 In his house, doesn't have an answering machine.

14:11 Adam What? Does he have work hours?

14:14 Caller Yes.

14:15 Adam Do you have a work number?

14:17 Caller Nope.

14:17 Caller That's the problem.

14:18 Adam What time does he get off work at night?

14:20 Caller See, that's the thing.

14:21 Caller He works a lot that he even sleeps at his work. And he's like, okay, at first I'm trying to understand.

14:27 Adam All right. Listen, Shell, get a carrier pigeon, tape a note to its ankle. Do birds have ankles, Drew?

14:35 Drew Yes.

14:36 Adam Or they just have legs? You hear about the bird leg, but you don't hear about the bird knee, the bird calf, the bird shin.

14:42 Drew There's got to be something here.

14:44 Adam Okay. The point is, tape something. Oh, please don't bother us. Just call. Hey, Shell, what are we arguing with her over? You know, go over to the guy's house, pin a note to his door, tell the guy to call you, it's urgent, and then break up. Or just move on as if you've broken up and wait for him to call you in a month. God, I wish I could find someone like Shell today. Cindy.

15:12 Caller Yeah.

15:12 Adam You're 29. What's going on?

15:15 Caller Oh, did you read that letter that I...

15:18 Drew I did...

15:18 Caller .backed you?

15:19 Drew I did.

15:19 Caller Well, um...

15:20 Adam What letter?

15:21 Drew She had a lengthy, a very interesting fax, her letter, and you want to recap it?

15:28 Caller Okay, well, I'm just 29 and started out as a gay from when I was really young. And, um...

15:38 Drew She attributes it to a completely absent father.

15:41 Caller Yeah, I'm pretty sure...

15:43 Drew Or whatever, let's claim, let's not even try to... Let's say you were born gay, whatever.

15:46 Caller No, I don't think really anybody's born gay.

15:49 Drew Well, whatever.

15:49 Caller I mean, maybe, but...

15:50 Drew It's certainly been your only sexual orientation.

15:53 Caller Yeah, I mean, I knew it from a very young age.

15:55 Caller Okay.

15:56 Caller And so, but, you know, like I said, I dated, you know, quite a few women. I had a really bad experience with one. I was with her for, like, five years. And, um, yeah, she was, like, a druggy and everything. And then, um, ended up breaking that off. And I kind of got fed up with women after dating so many, especially pretty women. They're so... seem to be screwed up.

16:22 Adam That's basically my story, Cindy says.

16:24 Caller Yeah.

16:26 Adam Yeah, then you went over to guys, right?

16:27 Caller Uh-huh. Well, actually, I, you know, was dating men at the same time, too, you know, in between relationships with women. It's just kind of like, really, what I wanted to do is fall in love with a man more than anything in the world.

16:39 Drew Why?

16:42 Caller Because being with a woman, I don't feel right completely with it.

16:46 Drew Because of the way society views it?

16:47 Caller Why you want to?

16:49 Drew Because you want to kids or?

16:51 Caller I guess because of the way I was raised.

16:53 Drew Which, well, you were raised without a father.

16:55 Caller That's true, yeah. But I guess maybe I didn't like that too much. I don't know.

17:01 Adam Hey, wait, was there some religion in your family?

17:05 Caller Yeah, yeah, I definitely went to church.

17:07 Adam Oh, okay.

17:07 Caller Every day of the summer.

17:08 Adam Well, that screws you up.

17:10 Caller Well, it wasn't a bad overpowering. Eventually, I didn't have to go to church.

17:16 Adam All right, so what's your question?

17:18 Caller Well, just where do you think this will end up? What's best for my daughter, what's best for my husband?

17:24 Drew So you found a guy, the first guy you found after that chaotic relationship, you're married?

17:29 Caller That I really, really, I'm sorry, my daughter's in the background. You guys kind of caught me at a weird time.

17:34 Drew What's your husband like? What kind of guy is he?

17:36 Caller Uh, kind of passive, of course.

17:40 Drew Kind of distant?

17:41 Caller Distant as in emotionally. He doesn't open up his feelings very much, no. He knows everything, of course, that's going on in my head. I, you know, had a conversation the other night, just, you know, kind of like sometimes I feel like I can't keep doing this, but...

17:59 Adam Okay, listen.

17:59 Caller You know, I think what it is is just normal relationships that I'm not used to.

18:02 Adam All right. Yeah, fine. Plus, you got a kid.

18:06 Caller Yeah.

18:07 Adam Stick it out.

18:08 Caller Yeah.

18:09 Adam Listen, I got news for everybody out there. First off, there's no one you're going to find who after about three years, you're not going to be bored of looking at naked. That's the biology, baby. There's no one you're going to find out there who after five or eight years of marriage, you're not going to be running down the stairs to greet them when they come home from work. You know what I mean? That's life. That wears off.

18:36 Drew There is a different level.

18:37 Adam You do it with every aspect of life.

18:40 Drew Yeah, but there's a different level of avalmation.

18:42 Adam I know your wife may be listening, but just calm down over there for a minute.

18:44 Drew You don't even know this world exists, I think. The one, the family commitment, the one we really get involved with somebody in a way that's kind of deep. Yeah. And then all that stuff seems kind of silly.

18:55 Adam You mean all the part about being happy? The part about being glad to see them?

18:59 Drew The more superficial stuff. Yeah, the running to the door to greet somebody. It's like not even important.

19:03 Adam Here's my point. People are so busy chasing after their, you know, sort of visceral muse that they want to jump ship after a few years.

19:15 Drew That's this country. That's the way things are going.

19:17 Adam Yeah, right. I mean, it's like, hey, I've been with a guy for five years. It's time to bury myself in a woman's legs. I'm going to move it around. I got to do something different. I got to be me.

19:27 Drew It's just crap. It's a load of crap.

19:29 Adam People in this society, they're like sharks. They think they got to keep swimming forward, otherwise they're going to die. And they're usually swimming away from some wreck, some merchant ship with their family name on the side of it that took a torpedo in it and is going down fast. And they're just swimming and not even looking back.

19:49 Drew They're going with the rats.

19:51 Adam Right. So the deal is, is you're going to get up with somebody else. Maybe it's a man, maybe it's a woman, maybe it's a houseplant. And three years into that thing, you're going to be looking to do the same thing again.

20:02 Drew Well, I think...

20:03 Adam You got a kid, don't screw it up. That's what I'm saying.

20:05 Drew I agree with you. There's a little more complexity in that her history with relationships has been very chaotic. And so she needs that element, and that's what's missing in this one. Very unhealthy impulse. The other side of this, though, is that she's trying to live her life as a straight person when she's actually gay. And that is a very, very difficult thing to do for an extended period of time. I think because there's a kid and because Adam, I agree that that's the time that you must make some sacrifice now. Get a therapist. It's a perfect circumstance to be working professionally with somebody and try to sort this all out. To see... I mean, you even have some question about whether or not you're actually gay or not. I mean, get this sorted out on behalf of your child and in the meantime, hang in.

20:43 Adam All right, that's it?

20:44 Drew That's it.

20:44 Adam All right, you're done. You ready to go to break?

20:48 Drew The light absolutely went out.

20:49 Adam What, with me?

20:50 Drew While I was talking, yeah.

20:51 Adam Yeah.

20:51 Drew It was that boring, huh?

20:52 Adam Everybody just sort of tuned out, you know, the old zone down. That's all right. You look good doing it though. Drew's got a new haircut. All right, sell the next call, Drew, and then we'll go to break. We'll be back with Alex Gifford from the Propellerheads.

21:04 Drew Let's stay with the chaos theory, the chaos topic.

21:07 Adam Oh, that's a good one.

21:07 Drew Akuma wants to know if he wants to pursue, should pursue a girl who has been very catic in her history.

21:13 Adam All right, my lord.

21:16 Love Line's phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. Love Line, Love Line, with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

21:22 We'll be right back.

21:23 W-E-B-N.

21:43 Adam Hey, it's Loveline, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads. They're a... Well, this is your first full-length album release, isn't it?

21:59 Propellerheads It is. It is.

22:00 Adam Lean up against the mic a little closer there, and go ahead and turn it on. There, Mike. Thank you, buddy. We kind of caught you off balance. And I'll tell you what I'd like to do. I'd like to just play a cut off it so everyone can hear the cut, and then we can come back and talk about it, and that way people will know what you're about when we're talking to you.

22:23 Caller Sure.

22:23 Adam Mike, you got the cut?

22:25 Caller Well, here it is.

26:19 Adam That would be history repeating from Propellerheads off Decks and Drums and Rock and Roll. And that is a song where we use part of the riff of that as some sort of intro or outro on this show, right?

26:33 Drew Correct.

26:33 Adam And have been for...

26:35 Drew It was a while ago.

26:37 Adam Oh, we're not doing it anymore? Is that right, Mike?

26:38 Drew Yeah, I think it's off.

26:40 Adam What the hell do I know? Hey, that's a good song.

26:43 Propellerheads You had to say that, didn't you?

26:44 Adam No, I don't always do that. Sometimes I go right to the calls. It always means it's a bad thing. Well, listen, no, I got to tell you, you know, musically I'm sort of more inclined to just four or five piecers who sit around and do it all at once, and sampling and that kind of stuff is not my bag, but that sounded great.

27:06 Propellerheads Well, it kind of, I think the line is getting much more blurred, really, between traditional bands and sampling and stuff. Sampling is used so much in every kind of production now, and both Will, my partner and myself, are kind of fairly traditional musicians, really, so we do sit around and play together.

27:21 Adam These guys play instruments.

27:22 Drew You like the singer a lot, this one.

27:24 Adam Yeah, the goldfinger, but I want to, I'll talk about that one second, Drew, and thanks for that silky transition, but I wanted to say that Money, the record guy, was telling me that Alex was in the Stranglers, played saxophone in the Stranglers.

27:41 Propellerheads That's right.

27:42 Adam And I'm trying to think of, Money couldn't think of it either. What was that Strangler song, K-Rock, or one of the, probably the most popular song that the Stranglers did that K-Rock used to play? Hmm? No, no, that wasn't, that's not the song I'm thinking of.

27:58 Propellerheads What year was that?

28:00 Adam Oh man, I'm thinking like late 80s.

28:03 Propellerheads Was it like, it wasn't like Golden Brown or that was a big hit or a mellow one?

28:11 Adam Can you sing it?

28:13 Propellerheads I probably could but I don't know whether LA is ready for that.

28:16 Adam Can you sing it? I gotta think of the Strangler song.

28:18 Propellerheads Late 80s or like Skin Deep or...

28:21 Adam Always the Sun?

28:21 Propellerheads Always the Sun, yeah.

28:22 Adam Nah, but that's not the song I'm thinking of. But that's a good song.

28:25 Propellerheads Yeah.

28:26 Adam I like that song.

28:27 Propellerheads Let Me Down Easy and No Mercy.

28:30 Adam I gotta think of this one. I swear I had to do with killing somebody or something like that.

28:34 Propellerheads Well, yeah, maybe. Let Me Down Easy. That was kind of...

28:39 Adam Engineer Mike's gonna go find an old Strangler CD back there. Calls, calls, calls. Well, wait a minute. I want to talk about... Who was it? Shirley Bassey? Was that the Goldfinger? Yeah, Shirley Bassey who did the vocals on that song.

28:52 Propellerheads Sure.

28:53 Adam Who you remember.

28:54 Drew Female wrestler.

28:55 Adam From Goldfinger. Now, how did you get her hooked up to do that?

29:02 Propellerheads We just asked her. Well, we wrote this song for her with her in mind. And just sent a demo of it to her management. And after a suitable delay, she kind of got back to us and said she was up for doing it.

29:14 Adam Well, you knew she sung the theme to Goldfinger.

29:16 Propellerheads Oh, yeah.

29:17 Adam But had you been following her career after that?

29:21 Propellerheads Well, you know, not like on a weekly basis. But I mean, her career is about 40 years, 40 years long. So it's just like, especially to British people, she's such a kind of household name. She's like royalty.

29:34 Adam Oh, she is.

29:35 Propellerheads Oh, totally. People think like our shell. That's the thing. Oh, really?

29:39 Adam I don't think she's that big over here, is she?

29:41 Propellerheads No, no, I think like other than the Bond songs, she's obviously what she's known best for. People don't really know people. Shirley Basie.

29:50 Adam Is she a jazz singer?

29:52 Propellerheads She's like a kind of show singer in that sense, like big songs and always been doing like, she did Big Spender and you know, it's just like those big songs.

30:02 Adam Right.

30:03 Propellerheads You know, and 60s, 70s were her real kind of heyday.

30:06 Adam Did you play the horns on this song?

30:09 Propellerheads No, the horns are actually on this are a loop from the soundtrack to a Russ Meyer movie.

30:15 Adam That's excellent. Which one?

30:17 Propellerheads From Fine Speakers, Lovers Weebers. And in fact, we met up and he met Russ? Yeah, he invited us up to his house for lunch and then he came down to the Viper Room. We were spending there one night.

30:29 Adam I thought he lived in Palm Springs.

30:31 Propellerheads No, he's, maybe he has a place there.

30:33 Adam People from England go to Palm Springs anytime in the summer months, they vaporize.

30:37 You know that?

30:39 Adam The teeth fall out and they just turn to a puddle of salt.

30:42 Propellerheads Is that an X-Files thing?

30:44 Adam It gets a little warm over there for you blokes. But I'm a big fan of Russ' work. I really am.

30:51 Drew You're raised on it, aren't you?

30:52 Adam I was weaned on Russ Meyer's films.

30:55 Drew So to speak.

30:56 Propellerheads He's a dude.

30:59 Adam He has big breasts, interesting writing and cool music of the period.

31:06 Propellerheads It's class class work. And he's a true gentleman.

31:10 Adam Akuma. Is this Akuma?

31:12 Yeah, it's Akuma.

31:14 Adam You're 18. What's going on?

31:15 Caller All right. I met this girl like a couple of months ago. And like we've been going out and stuff and hanging out at her house. And she was like telling me like her past her past relationships, her boyfriends and really really chaotic.

31:31 Drew In what way?

31:32 Caller Like one of her boyfriends, like forced her to have sex with him. And another one, like he hit her, like abusive. And like another like one of her boyfriends, like went to jail for robbery.

31:45 Drew OK, so at the very least, they all sound abusive. Not necessarily chaotic, but I think it's a good bet, too.

31:52 Caller So and I'm like, the thing is, I'm starting to have feelings for her, you know, and I'm wondering, should I try to pursue racist relationship or am I asking for trouble?

32:02 Adam I'm asking for trouble, but I don't think she's going to be interested in you unless you're a potential felon.

32:09 Drew Right. But that's how he's asking for trouble.

32:10 Caller He gets involved and she dumps him or somebody like dummy for like someone else.

32:14 Drew Right. You're too nice to sabotage it.

32:16 Adam Our experience is that people get what they go after and it's never a coincidence if you've been hooked up with five alcoholics in a row, your sixth guy you go out with is either going to have to start drinking or he's going to get dumped. Even if they say that's not what they want, that's the reality.

32:34 Drew If you really begin to get her to address what she's been doing and you can talk about it in a realistic way, possibly she'll be wanting to make a change. I mean, people are, one thing I noticed in this show, we condemn people to the patterns they've established as youth. That's true. People have the capacity for change. It's difficult and they have to be willing to hang in and open themselves to some vulnerability. But, you know, how old is she?

32:58 Caller She's like 16.

33:01 Adam Oh, 16?

33:01 Caller Yeah.

33:02 Adam Yeah, these changes usually come in the mid-40s. It's the unfortunate problem. After they get big and ugly, and you don't care if they change or not. Honey, you're hitting menopause. Do whatever you want emotionally.

33:14 Drew Come on, this is your call. Okay?

33:16 Adam Yeah.

33:17 Drew Not ours.

33:17 Adam But you know what's going on.

33:18 Drew Yeah, your insight is keen and make your decisions accordingly.

33:22 Propellerheads Okay. All right.

33:23 Adam Keep an eye open. Yeah, it's too bad people. Oh, I don't know. I swear some sociologists ought to sit down one day and figure out what three-year period is the greatest period for psychological change.

33:39 Drew Change or?

33:41 Adam Not metamorphosis.

33:43 Drew Maybe the change to undo what had been done during the really critical three years?

33:48 Adam Yeah. I know it's kind of a retarded scenario I've brought forward. But you know what I mean? I mean, is a person more apt to change at 30, 31, and 32? Or is it going to be 20, 21, and 22?

34:01 Drew I've read data to suggest that a lot of the chaos that erupts in the 20s can burn out in the 40s. In other words, some of this tends to die down.

34:10 Adam Okay.

34:12 Propellerheads All right.

34:12 Adam Listen, I don't care about chaos. We got to take a break because I got to figure out what strangler song I'm trying to think of.

34:17 Propellerheads Okay.

34:18 Adam And then we'll come back and, well, you got something? You got a strangler song? You want me to come in there? Okay. That's good. We'll go to break.

34:37 Propellerheads All of my most sensitive areas were in flames.

34:39 Caller Oh yeah, the good ones.

34:50 Adam What's going on here? Phone number for Loveline, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads.

34:59 Propellerheads Hello.

34:59 Adam Decks and Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD. It is their, wait a minute, did I get in this before? This is your first full-length.

35:11 Propellerheads Have we been here before?

35:12 Drew Yeah, it was about 20 minutes ago.

35:14 Propellerheads Caught in one of those.

35:15 Adam All right, well see that's how, you have to forgive genius every once in a while.

35:20 Propellerheads The basis of modern production, so you're saying to me that you're a traditionalist, but now you're learning about loops here.

35:26 Adam Here I am sampling myself. Is there something good in your pizza and it's At least I sampled, at least I sampled myself. It's not some old BB, I was gonna say BB King, but Wolfman Jack Radio Chum. All right, Drew, Drew's had enough of me.

35:40 Drew Yes, I did.

35:41 Adam Tony.

35:42 Hi.

35:42 Adam You're 16.

35:43 Caller Yeah, long time listener, first time caller, guys.

35:45 Caller Great.

35:46 Caller I just want to say that Adam, you're hilarious, man. And Dr. Drew, you're cool too.

35:50 Caller Thank you.

35:50 Caller All right, I got a bit of a problem. I am obsessed with 12 to 14 year old girls.

35:56 Drew And you're how old?

35:57 Propellerheads 16.

36:00 Drew Obsessed in what sense?

36:01 Caller In what?

36:02 Drew In what sense?

36:03 Caller Like, I fantasize about them.

36:05 Drew Do you actually go after any of them?

36:07 Caller Yes, I have.

36:08 Caller And it's actually got me in trouble before.

36:10 Caller What happened?

36:11 Caller He actually filed sexual harassment on me.

36:14 Adam One of the girls did?

36:15 Caller Yes.

36:16 Adam Oh, that's good.

36:17 Caller This is like 14, I think. That's what she told me.

36:21 Adam Where did you meet her?

36:23 Caller At the mall.

36:26 Drew Can you sexually harass somebody that you meet at the mall?

36:29 Adam I guess if they have. Did they have a hot dog on a stick outlet there, Tony?

36:34 Caller No.

36:34 Adam Well, then I don't think that's going to hold up.

36:37 Caller They actually dismissed it, but.

36:39 Adam What did you do to her?

36:41 Caller I was just like, feeling her ass.

36:44 Adam Just at the mall?

36:46 Drew So it's an assault?

36:48 Caller Sort of.

36:48 Drew Sexual assault.

36:49 Adam Well, you know, the thing that I've always found interesting about guys who go for that sort of bonsai approach, where they just stick their arm out, close their eyes and start running toward a group of women.

36:59 Drew Swandive.

37:00 Adam I always wonder, what is your angle? You know what I mean? It's sort of the same one that says, Hey, nice jugs, baby. Like that she's going to stop and come back your direction, or that you're going to feel her ass and she's going to go, God, that feels good. You want to feel some more of me out in the parking lot? I mean, I want to feel asses too, but that's why I don't grab asses.

37:24 Drew I would say to say that there's never been a human female to respond in that kind.

37:28 Caller Well, we were actually talking before this. I just didn't go right up to her and do that.

37:33 Adam I see. You'd ask for directions first?

37:35 Caller No. No, we were actually getting talking and walking around for a bit.

37:40 Adam Right, but here's what our, because we're sort of sane, but here's what we'd like to know. I understand you wanting to feel her ass, so you're talking to her, but aren't you thinking, you know, if I just hold out from ass grabbing, I may be grabbing more, you know, the next time I see her, and she wouldn't call the cops.

38:00 Caller I know, but that's the thing. I can't restrain from doing that.

38:03 Adam Oh, okay. So you got a problem. Yeah, that's bizarre.

38:08 Drew Well, that's impulse control problems and some problem with boundaries and normal social.

38:14 Adam So you grabbed her butt, and then what happened?

38:17 Caller Well, her mom came and picked her up, so I like hugged her and did that, and then she left, and then...

38:24 Drew Did his voice just change into a person?

38:26 Adam Did you just drop a NAD, Tony?

38:28 Caller No.

38:29 Adam What the hell? It sounds like we had Bill Clinton on the line for a second.

38:36 Caller My phone's all screwed up.

38:39 Adam No. We've dealt with people who screwed up phones, but your phone is possessed, Tony. Now, what was that?

38:47 Caller I have no clue.

38:49 Drew It's another person.

38:50 Adam Yes.

38:51 Drew It's two people on the line.

38:52 Caller Wow.

38:54 Adam Hey, Tony.

38:54 Caller Yes.

38:56 Caller Wait a minute.

38:58 Adam Now, I'm guessing this is like a bogus call, right?

39:01 Caller No, it's not.

39:02 Adam Well, wait a minute. But if you're going to do a bogus call, why do you have two guys? One, is this second Tony trying to do the first Tony's voice?

39:11 Caller No, actually, there's only one Tony. Everybody else is sleeping here. It's like almost three o'clock in the morning, or two o'clock in the morning here.

39:20 Adam I put the first Tony on.

39:23 Caller This is the same one?

39:24 Propellerheads No.

39:25 Adam No.

39:25 Caller Yes. I'm serious.

39:27 Propellerheads No.

39:27 Adam No.

39:28 Caller No. I'm serious.

39:29 Adam Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Now, there's a little leech there.

39:32 Caller Oh, OK.

39:33 Adam Hold on, Alex. You're sonically inclined, aren't you?

39:38 Propellerheads I reckon it's the same dude.

39:40 Adam Same person? Same guy?

39:40 Propellerheads I reckon I think he's just got something caught in his throat.

39:43 Caller Really?

39:44 Adam Tony?

39:45 Caller Yes.

39:46 Propellerheads Ooh.

39:47 Propellerheads Ah, he's loosened it now.

39:50 Adam Would you get a gummy bear wedge in your wind tunnel or something?

39:54 No.

39:56 Caller I have some Flynn.

39:58 Propellerheads Sorry.

40:00 Adam I don't care if this call is bogus or not.

40:02 Caller Sorry about that.

40:03 Adam No, don't apologize.

40:05 Caller No, it's not bogus.

40:07 Adam How often does the other Tony try? And by the way, when the other Tony talks, do you move your finger like the kid did? You know when he was saying Red Brum?

40:17 Caller Oh, no.

40:18 Adam For Christ's sake, Drew's never seen The Shining. Oh, Jesus Christ. I should get paid a hazard pay for working with a guy, trying to do comedy with a guy who does not get a Shining reference, for Christ's sake. Tony? Yes? Let me speak to little Tony. Do what? Oh, I can't, I know. All right, so what do you guys want to do? Do you want to move forward with the call? Or do you want to tell him to get a license and put him on hold?

40:47 Drew Put him on hold and wrap it up.

40:49 Propellerheads Huh?

40:50 Caller But I also have another question too.

40:51 Adam All right, that's fine.

40:52 Drew Well, here's where the bogus part comes.

40:54 Adam All right. Hang on.

40:54 Drew That was going to be the bogus, blurred out side of the retarded.

40:58 Adam You think so?

40:59 Drew Oh, yes.

40:59 Adam All right, now I got to go back. What is it, Tony?

41:02 Caller I need to know what the symptoms of depression are.

41:05 Adam Oh, I see, Drew, you wise ass. All right, Tony, hold on.

41:10 Caller Okay.

41:10 Adam We're going to put you on hold. Okay. Get a drink of water.

41:13 Caller All right.

41:14 Adam And try not to feel anyone up on the way to the sink. Okay. Kind of hard to figure him out because on one hand, he has a problem that is something that you don't want to just gloss over. On the other hand, he sounds like a fairly sane guy for two people. I mean, for a guy who's impulsive the way he is.

41:36 Propellerheads But sane kind of schizophrenics can have problems too.

41:39 Drew Yeah, that's not that.

41:44 Adam We'll unravel Tony in a minute. Let's just move on here. Anna?

41:48 Caller Hi.

41:48 Adam You're 15.

41:49 Caller Yeah.

41:50 Propellerheads Uh-oh.

41:51 Caller I'm kind of nervous.

41:53 Adam You're looking to gamble here, Drew?

41:54 Drew That's too easy. Go ahead. What's the question?

41:58 Caller My dad and my boyfriend got in a really bad fight this afternoon and-

42:04 Drew What was the fight about?

42:07 Caller He came to pick me up. My boyfriend came to pick me up for going to go out. And my dad just kind of like flipped out and was like, she's not going. And my boyfriend kind of got mad at him.

42:21 Drew Where was your boyfriend taking you?

42:23 Caller Just like to the movies.

42:24 Drew How old is he?

42:25 Caller He's 17.

42:27 Adam How old? 18?

42:29 Caller 17.

42:31 Adam I'm going to work a new angle. You're 14, Anna?

42:35 Caller I'm 15.

42:36 Propellerheads Okay. All right.

42:37 Drew And what particularly got to your dad?

42:42 Caller I don't know. I mean, I've been seeing this guy for like a year. And my parents have met him and everything. But he doesn't get along with my dad.

42:49 Drew What provoked the fight?

42:53 Caller My dad just kind of flipped out.

42:55 Drew Was he drunk?

42:57 Caller No. He just was kind of angry before my boyfriend showed up.

43:05 Drew Something you had said to him or?

43:10 Caller He was kind of upset at me just in general.

43:12 Caller For what?

43:14 Caller I'm not really quite sure why.

43:16 Drew If you had to guess, what would you say it was?

43:20 Caller Because I've been kind of like trying to ignore him lately.

43:26 Propellerheads Why?

43:29 Caller My dad's kind of abusive.

43:30 Drew Okay. All right.

43:32 Adam That's where the little girl voice came in.

43:34 Propellerheads Yeah.

43:35 Drew Sure.

43:35 Adam I was wondering, I guess I'll clue Alex in on this. Whenever we hear girls with the little girl voice, it always means something's going on with dad. Now, I can't figure out, and we don't always know what it is, but there's always something going on.

43:50 Drew Some abuse, some kind of abuse.

43:53 Propellerheads Just so they could just be a little girl.

43:55 Adam No. Not in our experience.

44:01 Drew Not when they sound like that.

44:02 Caller That'll call the show.

44:03 Propellerheads Okay. Sure.

44:04 Caller Yeah.

44:05 Adam So what is your dad, how has he been abusive to you?

44:08 Drew Physically abusive?

44:10 Caller Yeah.

44:10 Drew He hits you and stuff.

44:13 Caller He's been like doing stuff to me since that as well.

44:16 Drew Yeah.

44:16 Adam What kind of stuff?

44:19 Caller Like, I guess like having sex with me.

44:24 Propellerheads Oh.

44:25 Adam But that's the voice.

44:27 Drew I know. I was just hoping it wasn't just, it wasn't the whole thing for Ariana.

44:32 Adam Does your mom know?

44:34 Caller Yeah. Yeah. She like, she's known.

44:39 Adam When?

44:40 Drew Why wasn't this reported?

44:43 Caller I think, I think my mom blames me.

44:47 Drew Oh, my God, Anna.

44:48 Adam Well, of course. Well, unless she, her mom is screwed up enough to take this guy for a husband.

44:55 Drew And then not to have him jailed for what he's done to her daughter. That's just, that's just, all right. Adam sent the team. I can't even contain myself.

45:03 Adam Drew's going ballistic over here. I mean, it's not that going ballistic for Drew and Paul standing up or anything.

45:09 Drew You know how usually, usually I'm defending the moms in these situations.

45:13 Adam Not me. I always go right for mom.

45:15 Drew I want this mom taken with the dad.

45:17 Adam Hey, Anna.

45:18 Drew Yeah.

45:19 Adam Hold on a second. We got to go to break. And then we'll come back and we'll make it all better.

45:25 Propellerheads Okay.

45:26 Adam I mean, you know, in a relative way.

45:28 Caller Yeah.

45:29 Adam Okay. Hold on a second. You know, it always, it amazes me because I happen to know that if Drew, if Drew got drunk and help some chick painter toenails, your wife would leave you.

45:50 Drew Sure.

45:50 Adam Could you imagine, can you imagine your husband having sex with your daughter and sort of putting it behind you?

46:01 Drew Would tear me apart with her bare hands.

46:03 Adam Oh yeah. And then I'd get my ass kicked too.

46:05 Drew Oh yeah.

46:06 Adam She'd come right over here with a head of steam and kick my ass. She'd say, he was normal before he met you.

46:12 Drew She says that already.

46:14 Adam And she'd probably go kick my parents' asses. What I would, I'd like her to go there before she came here actually.

46:19 Drew I love that my wife, by the way.

46:20 Adam Oh my god.

46:21 Drew It makes her a good, great mom.

46:22 Adam She would be like a badger on a double cappuccino. It just, she would jump onto your head and it would look like something out of the Road Runner cartoon. She'd just spin around your head and just be a cloud of hair and those little squiggly things going off your head. And when it came back, your eyes would have two crosses where the eyeballs used to be. Oh, and imagine what would happen to your penis.

46:50 Drew Oh, that would be the first thing to do.

46:51 Adam That would be it. She already, as it is, she keeps it in a preserved jar on the nightstand. Imagine what she'd do with it. Take it out and run over it with the car. Okay, we'll be back. All right, Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads. Dex, I can't read it off the album. I got to read it off my sheet because it's all put together.

47:28 Propellerheads It's a long word.

47:29 Adam Dex and Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD, and we will hear something else off of that, I imagine, before the night is through. Drew?

47:38 Drew Yeah, Alex was talking to me off the air about, he began a discussion with me that I wanted to bring up on the air about how British people view these kinds of discussions in the open medium, and I've been doing this show for 15 years, and in the 80s we particularly had a lot of British types on this show, and it was always amazing how much every single one of them would come on, and their initial reaction, the vast majority, was to be offended, because they would say, look, these are personal problems, it's so offensive for people to bring personal problems, and not only are they personal, should they be kept personal, but you're asking us to comment on them, and they'd get angry. This happened from years and years.

48:14 Propellerheads Yeah, I mean, it's not...

48:15 Adam Many of them were drunk, though, Drew, to be fair.

48:17 Drew Of course, they were protective of their own personal problems, too.

48:20 Propellerheads But carrying on the tradition, I mean, it's not so much that I'd be offended by a lot of people in Britain. I think I'm just surprised at the willingness of people here to just talk about stuff in public when they wouldn't do it in private TV.

48:31 Caller We were surprised by it.

48:33 Drew We go to these colleges, and we do college tours and stuff, and we'll be in a room with 5,000 kids, and they stand up in front of God, and their peers and everybody, and ask these same questions.

48:40 Propellerheads Yeah, it's like as if it kind of doesn't count. People aren't going to say, I heard you the other night.

48:47 Adam Well, it's sort of like actually somebody was asking me last night at this MTV party that Drew and I went to which was kind of fun with the wall flowers played and it was free food and booze.

49:00 Drew Do you want to say some nice things about MTV?

49:01 Adam Yeah, they sent the limo. They took care of us. I got some free food, some free booze. I got to talk to the wall flowers. I had a good time. Yes, nothing but praise for the MTV. I know. I hate going to those things because I think about all the things I say about them on the air. And then I realize I'm eating their sushi. So I said to somebody who was saying to me the same thing, how do you expect people to react this way? Or actually, her question was, how do you get the guess to jump in, like yourself tonight, Alex, or on the TV show, to relax and start opening up and discussing things?

49:42 Propellerheads Shop stick.

49:43 Adam And it's actually a red hot prod, but... Drew, did you tell them about that?

49:48 Propellerheads I thought it was a shop stick.

49:49 Adam It's difficult to tell. I said it's sort of like this. It's like asking you how you get someone naked at a nude beach, which is you drag them on to the nude beach and then you get naked. And before you know it, they're the only one standing with their clothes on and feeling like idiots, so then they get nude, too.

50:06 Drew I think it's a little less pernicious. It is more that how do you get people to engage in conversation in your living room? When people start to talk about certain topics, you get drawn in.

50:15 Adam You gotta get the coke out.

50:16 Caller All right.

50:17 Adam Oh, no. Not at Drew's house. Okay, we're ready to move forward here.

50:22 Drew Let's get back to Anna.

50:23 Adam Oh, that's right, Anna. Oh, and then there's Tony, Red Rum Tony. Hold on, I just want to check in with him. Tony?

50:29 Caller Yeah.

50:31 Caller That's a third Tony now.

50:32 Adam Is that a third Tony?

50:33 Caller No.

50:34 Adam Tony the guy who likes to cop a feel with a 13 or 14 year old?

50:38 Caller Yeah.

50:38 Adam Okay. Hold on a second. We got to finish up with Anna. Okay. All right. Where's that other voice? Do what?

50:45 Propellerheads There you go.

50:50 Adam Hey, Anna.

50:51 Caller Hi.

50:51 Adam Okay. So your dad's, your dad has been abusive to you.

50:57 Caller Yeah.

50:57 Adam And has he stopped the sexual molestation?

51:03 Caller He stopped for about a year and then my mom put me on the pill and I started again.

51:09 Drew You've got to report this, Anna. I'm sorry. You must report this.

51:13 Adam Why does this coincide with your mom putting you on the pill?

51:16 Drew It allowed the dad to start up again.

51:18 Adam Is that true?

51:19 Caller Yeah.

51:20 Drew Dad was afraid he might get his daughter pregnant. You know, let's be sure to get her some contraception.

51:24 Caller Yeah, I stopped like when I was 12 when I...

51:26 Drew Notice the real sickness here. Hey, honey, we've got to get our daughter on contraception. I might get her pregnant.

51:32 Adam This is too macabre to even be true.

51:36 Drew This guy is an asshole.

51:37 Adam Thanks, Drew.

51:38 Drew Has he ever been in jail, your dad?

51:41 Caller No.

51:43 Adam What's he do for a living?

51:46 Caller He's a psychiatrist.

51:47 Adam Contractor?

51:47 Drew He's a psychiatrist?

51:49 Propellerheads Yeah.

51:52 Adam Wait a minute. This is too sick and too bizarre. I mean, not that I don't believe Anna because I can feel it in her, but this is...

52:01 Drew Is he a psychologist or a psychiatrist?

52:03 Caller He's a psychiatrist. This is God's medication.

52:08 Drew He needs to come to justice if this is for real.

52:12 Caller But he just like, I mean, like I said, he's really violent.

52:17 Drew I mean, is he doing drugs himself?

52:20 Caller I don't think so.

52:22 Drew I mean, this is an impaired physician. This is a very serious situation. And I mean, this is really serious because God knows how many other people he may be adversely impacting.

52:33 Caller I know. Like, that's the reason why I think that he's so mad at my boyfriend is because I told him.

52:39 Drew God bless you for telling your boyfriend.

52:40 Caller Oh, yeah.

52:41 Caller But he, like, threatened to kill us both.

52:45 Caller Oh, my God.

52:46 Drew Oh, my God. You have to say it. You know what?

52:48 Adam What about her? Anna, what about your mom? I mean, what is her deal?

52:55 Caller My mom's kind of like, I'm the youngest. Like, I have an older half-sister who's, like, 35.

53:05 Drew Have you talked to any of them?

53:07 Caller Like, no.

53:09 Adam Whose daughter is your older sister?

53:11 Caller My mom.

53:12 Drew You got to talk to your sisters. I really strongly encourage you to. This stuff drives me crazy. And when I hear about teachers and physicians potentially miscarrying, we don't know whether this guy has done this, but he's certainly somebody who could or would.

53:26 Adam Listen, this guy could blow up the White House, for Christ's sake. I could blow up the White House faster, and I could have sex with my daughter.

53:37 Caller Right.

53:39 Drew All right, this is a mess.

53:40 Adam Where's your sister?

53:42 Caller She lives, like, 2,000 miles away.

53:45 Adam And what happened with her? Did he do these same things with her?

53:49 Caller He's not like her dad, so she didn't grow up.

53:52 Drew But even better that that one should be the one she goes to, so she isn't so invested in this and can take care of it.

53:57 Adam Well, looking at it this way, this mother picked her dad, the half-sister's dad, this witch of a mother.

54:05 Drew I understand, the half-sister's not going to be great.

54:07 Caller See, the thing is, is that my mom's kind of abusive, too.

54:11 Drew Well, look, we understand that.

54:12 Adam No, boy.

54:13 Drew I understand that.

54:14 Adam No, boy.

54:15 Drew Are you on any medication, Anna?

54:16 Caller No.

54:18 Drew Have you got a doctor of your own?

54:20 Caller I have like a regular, I have like a pediatrician.

54:23 Drew You need to talk to the pediatrician about what's happening here. Can you do that?

54:28 Caller I tried to once and he asked my parents if it was true and they just told them that like I was crazy and that I made it all up. And so now like.

54:40 Drew He has an obligation, he may not understand this, but he has to report that once it's been.

54:45 Adam Her doctor.

54:46 Drew It is absolutely required by the law. Are you in California? No. I'm not sure if the other states have the same kind of requirements, but in California, even when there's even the possibility of a suspicion, you are required to report it.

55:00 Adam And if they find fireworks on your dad, he's really, if he's smoking or if he finds any sparklers in like the trunk of his Lexus, he's going down. I mean, that's now, now that's a felony, right, Drew?

55:12 Caller I mean, in California, he has guns.

55:15 Adam He has guns. Oh, fantastic.

55:17 Caller Yeah, like we that's that's what the big thing tonight was about. He got out a gun.

55:22 Adam Oh boy. Jesus, can you? Hey, oh my God. I'm trying to think of your boyfriend, though. Is your boyfriend a sane guy?

55:32 Caller Yeah, he's just like, I thought that my dad could make it.

55:36 Adam I understand. But is your does your boyfriend live with his parents?

55:40 Caller Yeah.

55:41 Adam And he's all right? He's an all right guy?

55:44 Caller Yeah.

55:45 Drew We're worried that he's abusive too.

55:47 Adam Does he ever get abusive, your boyfriend?

55:50 Caller He's protective.

55:52 Drew All right.

55:52 Adam Yeah, sometimes protective guys end up abusing the thing that they protect.

55:56 Drew I know, but right now...

55:58 Adam Well, I'm just saying, I think she should go stay with him and call the cops.

56:02 Drew Yeah, but these people, I don't think we should be telling her to do anything specific because this is such a volatile situation where the House of Cards is coming down for this guy.

56:13 Adam Well, the guy's got guns, access to, you know, drugs, and he's a maniac.

56:17 Drew I think I understand that. And I think...

56:19 Caller I'm afraid that if I leave, it'll make things worse.

56:22 Drew Well, and I think the only thing we can tell you clearly to do is to go to the authorities. Okay, if this is really happening and if you are in danger, you must go to the local authorities.

56:33 Propellerheads And how should she do that?

56:35 Drew I don't know. I don't really even want to know what city, because I don't want this to get out in that area and her to be in further danger. Okay, but I do want to talk to you off the air. So I'm going to ask you to hold on, but we're not done with you yet here on the air. Okay. I'll give you a phone number. Okay, it's a national hotline. It's open presently. It's 1-800-

56:53 Adam Wait a minute, she doesn't have a pen. Do you have a pen, Anna? You do?

56:57 Yeah.

56:58 Adam All right, go ahead.

56:59 Drew 1-800-422-4453.

57:04 Caller 224453.

57:06 Drew 1-800-422-4453. But this is not about you, understand. Your parents are disturbed people. They need help. They need containment. This is an out of control situation that's starting to come to unravel. It's not your fault. And you need protection while this comes apart if indeed this is something for real. Now, we have no way of knowing if this is really happening or not. We have no way of knowing.

57:29 Adam Let's just assume it is.

57:30 Drew Yeah, but we're not here to treat you, Anna, or to direct you specifically, except to understand one clear thing, that if you are in danger and if people are abusing you, that needn't happen and you should call authorities locally. You should not worry that this is something that you were doing or that you deserve.

57:49 Adam What is that phone number again, Anna?

57:52 Caller 1-800-422-4453.

57:56 Adam Oh, my God. She was the first caller who wrote a number down.

57:58 Drew Anna is smart, too. I think you can...

58:00 Adam Yeah. Hey, Anna? Whatever your participation in this was, it doesn't matter. You're a minor. You're a victim. Do you understand? This is all 100% your dad and mother's fault. Please call that number. And Drew will talk to you off the air.

58:21 Drew Okay, hold on. This is, you know, of course, people still love their parents when they're outrageous, horrible human beings. And you don't want to disrupt their families. They don't want to cause pain for people.

58:33 Adam I don't know. My folks missed a couple of Pop Warner football games when I was 11 or 12, and I'm still pissed.

58:39 Drew The nightmare has come true for them, too. You got a radio show and keep talking about it every night.

58:43 Adam Your worst nightmare came true, folks. I got a pulpit.

58:49 Drew Beware, parents. It could happen.

58:50 Adam My mom fed me weeds, everybody. Hung out with a guy named Zorbeck.

58:55 Caller All right.

58:58 Drew This is a horrible. I mean, this is a chilling. Because it's not-

59:02 Adam Well, all that on the pill part. I mean, oh my God. All right. Now, Drew, would you be for having a guy like this destroyed? Like an animal. I don't say killed, and I don't even say put to death. I just mean destroyed like an animal that has some sort of disease that the animal is only going to suffer and he could infect the other ones in the herd. Do you know what I'm saying? Don't you just destroy this guy like an animal?

59:32 Drew Just destroy him?

59:34 Adam Yes.

59:35 Drew I'm so overwhelmed by the whole situation that I can't pass judgment. It just needs to be- Anna needs to be saved from this.

59:43 Caller All right.

59:43 Adam You'll talk to her after. Tony?

59:45 Caller Yes.

59:46 Drew Tony number one.

59:48 Adam Tony, let me talk to Tony number two for just one second.

59:52 Caller No.

59:54 Caller All right.

59:55 Adam Hey, Tony?

59:56 Caller Yeah.

59:57 Adam You know, it seems how our last call was so heavy. It seems sort of, I don't know, superfluous to speak to Tony now, doesn't it? Like maybe we're demeaning ourselves somehow.

1:00:11 Propellerheads All right. All right.

1:00:13 Adam So Tony, you have a compulsion to grab young girls?

1:00:16 Caller Yeah.

1:00:17 Adam Okay. Don't do it anymore.

1:00:18 Caller Okay.

1:00:18 Adam All right. See how easy that was? Mark?

1:00:23 Yeah.

1:00:23 Adam You're 13.

1:00:24 Caller Yeah. My uncle, I think my uncle's gay.

1:00:27 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:00:29 Caller He, I live in Tucson. My mom went to a business meeting in Phoenix and I had to stay with him for a few days. And the first morning I was over there, he had one of his friends over there. And I woke up that morning and I walked into the room and they were in the same bed. And I was, he said, what are you doing, Mark? Am I just seeing if you were awake? And I, so I went back out and I asked him that, that morning during breakfast, who was that guy in your bed? And he was like, oh, it's no one.

1:01:04 Caller And then, that's nice.

1:01:06 Caller Yeah.

1:01:07 Adam Right. So your uncle may be gay?

1:01:09 Caller Yeah.

1:01:10 Drew That's a pretty good bet.

1:01:11 Caller Yeah. So we, when I went home that next, when I went home, like three days later, I told my mom and he, and she said, well, it's probably nothing.

1:01:22 Drew What's what?

1:01:23 Caller He came over that, then he came over like two days later.

1:01:26 Drew All right.

1:01:26 Adam Let me, yeah.

1:01:28 Caller With the same guy.

1:01:29 Adam All right. Let me get to the bottom of this.

1:01:30 Caller Okay.

1:01:31 Adam Is he a snappy dresser, this uncle of yours?

1:01:33 Caller Yeah.

1:01:34 Adam He is?

1:01:34 Caller Yeah.

1:01:35 Adam What about his house? Does he run a pretty tight ship?

1:01:40 Caller He disinfects practically everything.

1:01:42 Adam He does. Does he use a, does he have a shower door like one of those clear, loose-side shower doors?

1:01:49 Caller Yeah. Where it's open.

1:01:51 Adam Yeah. Is there squeegee anywhere nearby?

1:01:53 Caller Yeah. There's about two of them.

1:01:55 Adam Two of them. Not only is this guy gay, but it could be in some sort of a ritualistic homosexual activity. I mean, he's got two squeegees. Is he, what kind of car does he drive?

1:02:08 Caller He drives a blue Miata.

1:02:09 Caller Oh!

1:02:12 Adam Well, that's it.

1:02:14 Caller Yeah.

1:02:15 Caller Yeah.

1:02:16 Adam Well, that's all right. You know, most guys have uncles that are, you know, fat, and they work on some used car lot, and they drink too much.

1:02:23 Drew And they feel them up.

1:02:24 Adam And they feel them up, right.

1:02:25 Drew Your uncle's a nice guy, right?

1:02:28 Caller Yeah, pretty much.

1:02:29 Drew Why don't you talk to him about it? Well, listen, no, why not?

1:02:32 Adam And what business is it of his?

1:02:34 Drew It's not your business, Mark, but you're a straightforward guy, and you've noticed this thing, and they...

1:02:38 Adam Listen, my uncle Vince, you think I asked him, hey, when's the last time you nailed Aunt Pat? Well, then talk to him about it.

1:02:47 Drew All right, then don't. But understand that that's who he is, and that's fine. And if it helps in keeping the relationship close, talk to him about it.

1:02:53 Caller Yeah, that morning when I asked him about it, he like totally jumped on my back.

1:02:57 Adam So he shouldn't even start humping, did he?

1:03:00 Caller He should.

1:03:01 Adam OK, I didn't know what he was saying. Mark, I'm sure your uncle Mark's fairly precocious, isn't he?

1:03:06 Drew That's the point. I mean, Mark is on top of things, and he should be able to talk about what his uncle feels like, especially if it helps the relationship stay close.

1:03:13 Adam This is better. It's better for you, Mark.

1:03:15 Drew OK.

1:03:16 Adam They'll take you to the museum, the opera, see shows, a gypsy will blow through town next month. You see that. This is culture. That's good. My uncle Vince, he played pinochle, and he was a bartender. Do anything fun with him. Went down to the beach once in a while.

1:03:34 Drew Why don't we play a song now so I can talk to Ann off the air?

1:03:36 Adam You want to do that?

1:03:37 Drew It's on the commercial.

1:03:38 Adam Alex, is that OK with you?

1:03:40 Propellerheads That's fine. Yeah.

1:03:41 Adam You know, I was thinking about Dr. Drew, yeah, go ahead, I don't need you for this, but the thing I found interesting about the Brits is they're certainly more reserved than Americans are, in many ways. But on the other hand, they have Page Three Girls, for instance, which is big-busted, topless women in some of their newspapers, which we would never have.

1:04:09 Propellerheads But you have the National Enquirer, though.

1:04:11 Adam Well, that's true. But don't you guys have the son or something?

1:04:15 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:04:15 Adam All right. But here's what I'm saying. And you like your comedy. The comedy is like Monty Python and Benny Hill. And at those parliament things, they start yelling at each other. I've seen those things on C-SPAN, you know, where they go, let's see, what was it, with the right honorable gentleman from Sussex. And then everyone starts yelling at him.

1:04:38 Caller Sit down, you bloke.

1:04:39 Propellerheads You don't do that in your...

1:04:41 Adam No, we don't. We just sit there and then we talk crap, you know, when the guy's done, but we don't shout him down. Here's all I'm saying about the Brits is, they're very reserved in many ways, but there's other ways. Like I said, you know, they...

1:04:54 Propellerheads Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, we just all got our own differences.

1:04:57 Adam But wouldn't you say that the British enjoy a more, a broader slapstick humor, let's say, than Americans?

1:05:05 Propellerheads Uh, it's... I don't know, my slapstick... I mean, it has been. I think we're just... We're kind of obsessive about humor, definitely. I mean, it's one thing that we do well.

1:05:15 Adam And you're all over the Royal Family, right?

1:05:18 Propellerheads Well, all over it, as in, like...

1:05:19 Adam I mean, you were obsessed with Princess Di's, you know, affairs and dating.

1:05:25 Propellerheads That was pretty mad, the reaction to that. Yeah, took me by surprise.

1:05:29 Adam So, I'm just saying, but it's funny, when it comes to a show like this, that wouldn't really fit in, in the culture.

1:05:37 Propellerheads That wouldn't, but then... I mean, you know, at the same time, we wouldn't... I mean, there's some things we'd be very open about, like, for example, we have comedians being, like, really down on the government or on the Royal Family, but then we wouldn't be reinforcing sexual stereotypes like you just did with that kind there. For example, because that would be... Really? Oh, yeah, absolutely, that's an offense. You couldn't get away with that.

1:06:02 Adam You couldn't reinforce sexual stereotypes in Britain?

1:06:06 Propellerheads Absolutely, you can, but people would say that in a show like this, you probably... if you're dealing with younger people who are, you know, open to...

1:06:17 Adam Well, to be fair to me, I just asked him what kind of car he drove. He's the one who drove the Miata. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

1:06:24 Propellerheads But I mean, you know, I'm not down on you here because this is your show and stuff.

1:06:28 Adam No, no, go ahead.

1:06:29 Propellerheads You and Drew just had a routine whereby you were sort of coming up with a list of things and he was saying gay at the end of it. Right. And it's just... You know, obviously it's a humorous thing. Sure. But it's all subliminal.

1:06:42 Adam But there's a little truth in that, too.

1:06:44 Propellerheads Oh, sure, sure. And you and I know that, right? But we're a bit older.

1:06:49 Adam Our listeners know. They listen to Drew. All right. Now I'll tell you what we'll do. I think we'll go to break and then we'll come back. We'll fight some more. But we'll fight during the song.

1:07:01 Propellerheads We'll go out. We'll take this outside.

1:07:03 Adam We'll be back. Alex Gifford is here from Propellerheads, and I'm trying to figure out the time in here. You all right there, Drew? Did you speak to our caller off the air?

1:07:37 Drew Yeah, I did.

1:07:37 Adam Okay, what are you going to do with that?

1:07:39 Drew We have a plan, and we'll be talking to her again in a week or two.

1:07:42 Propellerheads Okay.

1:07:44 Adam I think we'll take a call, and then we'll play another song from Propellerheads. Victoria.

1:07:52 Caller Yeah.

1:07:52 Adam You're 14.

1:07:53 Caller Yeah.

1:07:53 Propellerheads What's going on?

1:07:57 Drew Victoria goes out of the hands, down to 45.

1:07:59 Caller Right.

1:08:00 Adam Go ahead, Victoria.

1:08:02 Caller My friend, one of my best friends, her stepbrother and me have been flirting a lot lately, and we're just such good friends, and I'm sort of thinking that he might ask me out, and I don't know if I should.

1:08:21 Drew This is your close friend? A female friend's brother?

1:08:25 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:08:26 Drew Have you talked to her about it?

1:08:28 Caller No.

1:08:29 Drew You think it would freak her out?

1:08:31 Caller Yeah.

1:08:32 Propellerheads Why?

1:08:32 Adam I mean, it's her stepbrother, right?

1:08:34 Propellerheads Yeah. Well.

1:08:37 Caller Because, like, I have, like, most of her friends like him, and it's just, like, weird because, you know, if you bring it up to her, she'll be like, okay, you know, I'm go home, you know, I'm going inside and she'll get, like.

1:08:51 Drew So she believes that she's concerned the people are her friend because of her brother.

1:08:56 Caller Yeah, I guess.

1:08:57 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:08:57 Adam My sister had that problem, too.

1:08:59 Propellerheads I imagine.

1:09:02 Caller I mean, but her sister brought that up on the phone because me and her brother were talking. And it was just like, well, if she's going to talk to him, then, you know, she's not your real friend. And I was like, you know, don't believe that. I was your friend before I started liking him. But I know that I liked him.

1:09:22 Adam Okay. Well, wait, how old is he?

1:09:24 Caller He's seventeen.

1:09:25 Drew I mean, we have a problem with that even more than the friend of a boy, brother of a friend.

1:09:30 Adam Tried on the outskirts. You're what grade are you in?

1:09:34 Caller I'm in ninth.

1:09:36 Adam You're in the ninth?

1:09:37 Propellerheads He's in high school.

1:09:38 Adam What grade is he in?

1:09:41 Caller I don't know.

1:09:42 Drew Is he in high school?

1:09:43 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:09:47 Caller I mean, he's not like the greatest person in the world.

1:09:51 Propellerheads What do you mean?

1:09:52 Drew What's the deal?

1:09:53 Adam That's why you like him.

1:09:54 Caller Oh, no. I mean, it's just like he does drugs and kind of...

1:09:59 Drew Why do you want to be around that?

1:10:02 Caller I don't know.

1:10:04 Adam I should have done drugs in high school. I did drugs later on when no one cared. Should have done it in high school or really cashed in on the checks.

1:10:13 Caller No, not exactly. This is like the first time that I've really gotten for someone like that.

1:10:20 Drew We're coming up with thumbs down on every count. He's older than we like to see for your age. He's a drug user. It's a bad sort of influence on you at 14. It's the father of a friend and potentially...

1:10:35 Caller He doesn't do that in front of me. I mean, he like tells me...

1:10:38 Drew Potentially disturb the relationship with your friend.

1:10:41 Adam Well, he doesn't do it in front of you, but you guys aren't... You don't spend a lot of time together, do you?

1:10:45 Caller Yeah.

1:10:46 Adam You do?

1:10:47 Caller Yeah.

1:10:48 Drew Well, he's not going to do it in front of his sister, 14-year-old sister, right?

1:10:52 Caller Yeah, he does.

1:10:53 Adam Oh, he does?

1:10:54 Caller Yeah.

1:10:56 Adam Hey, Victoria?

1:10:57 Caller Yeah.

1:10:58 Adam I don't know. I'm with Drew on this. Alex, what do you think?

1:11:02 Caller I mean, because, like, you know, I really like him and it's like, you know...

1:11:06 Adam Yeah, but a lot of other girls like him, right?

1:11:09 Caller Not a lot.

1:11:11 Adam I thought you just said his sister was worried that that's why girls came around.

1:11:16 Caller Well, she's only introduced him to two of her friends.

1:11:19 Drew And they like him.

1:11:20 Caller And they think that he's cute in, like, a geeky type of way, but I don't see why. Like, okay, he's not really, like, geeky or anything, but they're just like... They tell it to her face, oh, he's okay, like a geeky sort of way.

1:11:31 Adam All right. I don't care what kind of way he's cute. Alex, do you think... What do you think, first off, about 17 and 14?

1:11:39 Propellerheads Yeah, it's a tricky one, isn't it?

1:11:41 Adam Normally, three years ain't much, but that's a big three. I mean, at 17, you've potentially had your license for a year, you're well into puberty, you're essentially an adult with an adolescent mind, but I mean, hell, when I was 17, I was playing football and going out and drinking beers and stuff, and at 14, it was... Wait a minute, flip-flop here. Yeah, I was doing the same thing at 14, but I was shorter, and that's my point. Now, a girl at 14, I wouldn't want my 14-year-old girl going out with a 17-year-old guy. That's what I'm saying. If you all look at it that way, if you all picture it as your 14-year-old girl, I want my 14-year-old girl going out with a nine-year-old.

1:12:26 Propellerheads But the impulse of 14-year-old girls are more together than my 17-year-old guys, but the 17-year-old guys are more unpredictable.

1:12:34 Drew And why go with the drug addict guy, the antisocial guy?

1:12:37 Propellerheads I was thinking that maybe he might have just been saying that for a fake, but then if she says he's been doing it in front of his sister, then I guess that's the truth.

1:12:46 Adam All right. Well, so we all three give it a thumbs down. That's going to make her want him that much more. He's a rebel, this one. Okay. Propellerheads is the name of the band. Mike, you got it queued up. This is Velvet Pants. That's Velvet Pants. That's from Propellerheads. Dex Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD. Alex Gifford is here. Alex is just going to hang out until the end of this break. So I think what we'll do is take one more call, and then we'll say bye to Alex and go to break. Is that all right with you?

1:17:05 Propellerheads That's fine by me.

1:17:08 Adam Well, you're not that happy to leave, though, right? Oh, no. No, actually, I want to give...

1:17:12 Drew Or is it Both?

1:17:13 Propellerheads Both. Well, yeah, I'm based on, actually... I've just got a place in... Renting a place in New York for about a year.

1:17:21 Drew Is there another famous band from Both recently? Or have you been on the show before?

1:17:25 Propellerheads Not been recently. Do I know you? Years ago, TS. Fierce came from Both.

1:17:30 Drew That's what it is.

1:17:31 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:17:32 Adam Well, The Beatles.

1:17:34 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:17:35 Caller Right.

1:17:35 Adam Botherpool. Let me give a plug for Alex, by the way. 7.13, when is that? That's tomorrow?

1:17:45 Caller Oh, tomorrow.

1:17:46 Adam He's gonna be in-store doing a spin performance at the Virgin Mega store, which is in Los Angeles. And then on the 17th, he'll be in Boston at noon, doing noon to two, doing some stuff. And then in New York on the 22nd, and Seattle on the 1st of August, and then in Denver on the 7th and 8th of August. So look for him.

1:18:15 Propellerheads No just convenient route that has been chosen so that I can do the maximum amount of traveling for the minimum number of gigs.

1:18:23 Caller Yeah. We've been on those.

1:18:26 Adam Yeah, that's genius.

1:18:27 Propellerheads Kind of Zorro tour of the United States.

1:18:28 Adam Yeah, you go from LA to Boston and New York and then to Denver and Seattle. That makes sense.

1:18:35 Caller Big loop.

1:18:36 Adam We got the same travel agent we got. Sophia.

1:18:39 Propellerheads Yes.

1:18:39 Adam You're 29. Except for, we travel in a covered wagon when we do those college tours.

1:18:44 Drew You know, wind-up lanes.

1:18:45 Adam You're attacked by, well Drew calls them Native Americans, but I just don't mean it.

1:18:49 Propellerheads At least you get the cover.

1:18:51 Adam That's true. Hey Sophia.

1:18:55 Caller Yes sir.

1:18:56 Adam What's going on?

1:18:57 Caller I have a medical question. I had a uterine cancer and I had my uterus removed a year ago, and I have not had any urges or secretion. I went to see my doctor about it and he said get KY Jelly. I want to know if there's a substance like a pill I can take over the counter that would give me secretion though I don't have to use a cream.

1:19:18 Drew No. The answer is no. There may be better creams as Ann has a whole cabinet full of different kinds of stuff she uses she was telling us about. But how about…

1:19:28 Adam She was?

1:19:29 Drew Remember? She said she likes Astro Glide.

1:19:32 Adam Oh yeah. I put it in my hair. I'm telling you it works.

1:19:35 Drew I know you did.

1:19:36 Adam People think I'm kidding but I got trapped in one of these college lectures with no hair goop and all I had was this Astro Glide and I slapped it on my head and it worked like a charm.

1:19:45 Propellerheads I had someone recommend KY once.

1:19:47 Adam Really? It's water soluble.

1:19:48 Propellerheads Anthony was a hairdresser too.

1:19:49 Adam Why not? Well, if a hairdresser recommends KY.

1:19:54 Propellerheads If a hairdresser recommends that kind of thing.

1:19:56 Adam I got a news for you.

1:19:57 Drew Sophia, the deal is, do you still have your ovaries?

1:20:00 Caller Yes, I do. I had uterine cancer. I had the uterus removed.

1:20:03 Drew I understand. Are they functioning normally?

1:20:05 Caller They're functioning okay. I get my hormone level checked but I don't have any urges or secretion.

1:20:12 Drew What do you mean you don't have any urges?

1:20:14 Caller Like sexual urges I used to have before my surgery.

1:20:18 Drew No, theoretically that shouldn't have anything to do with it.

1:20:20 Caller Right, that's what my doctor told me.

1:20:22 Drew What do you think that's all about?

1:20:25 Caller I have no idea. Probably because intercourse hurts. That's what I think.

1:20:31 Adam Well, I guess it might. But isn't this a problem that solves itself? You don't have the urge to have sex.

1:20:39 Drew I think definitely water soluble lubricants are the way to go in terms of the secretion issue. As far as the pain goes, I mean sometimes estrogen creams helps with the sort of pliability of the tissue down there. You might talk to your doctor about that.

1:20:52 Caller It's called estrogen?

1:20:53 Drew Estrogen creams, yeah. And then also tell them about the pain. I mean they should be able to help you with that. I mean sometimes there can be a short canal and there are ways to stretch that out.

1:21:06 Adam Drew, why would you, why do you dry up when your uterus gets removed?

1:21:10 Drew You really shouldn't.

1:21:10 Adam You shouldn't?

1:21:12 Caller No, not the ovaries remain.

1:21:14 Adam Who produces the moisture down there?

1:21:16 Drew There are multiple, there are the Skiing's Glands, the Martholins guys.

1:21:18 Adam Oh, glands?

1:21:20 Drew Yeah.

1:21:20 Adam I always pictured like these elves.

1:21:23 Drew Keebler elves?

1:21:25 Propellerheads Sort of.

1:21:26 Adam Their pants were down.

1:21:27 Drew The uterus might produce some stuff too, but usually I, this has not been a real common complaint than people I've been dealing with.

1:21:34 Adam Alright, but you just use the lubricant.

1:21:37 Drew You do, but you know.

1:21:38 Adam Like other women need to use it.

1:21:40 Drew It's an interesting phenomenon that I have seen in Hispanic women really believe that there's something about their femininity being removed when the uterus, the matrice has taken away.

1:21:49 Adam Sophia?

1:21:50 Caller Yes.

1:21:50 Adam Are you a Hispanic?

1:21:51 Caller Yes, I am.

1:21:52 Drew Isn't that interesting? And I don't know what that is. It's a cultural thing, if there really is some biological thing going on or what. But I've heard that complaint a number of times from Hispanic women.

1:22:02 Adam What did you call it?

1:22:03 Drew The matrice, right Sophia?

1:22:04 Caller Yes.

1:22:05 Adam The matrice, what is that?

1:22:07 Drew The uterus.

1:22:08 Adam Oh, that is?

1:22:09 Caller Yes.

1:22:10 Caller Okay.

1:22:11 Adam They don't put that in the menudo, do they?

1:22:13 Caller For Christ's sake. Okay.

1:22:14 Caller Thank you.

1:22:15 Adam Good luck Sophia. Thanks Sophia.

1:22:16 Caller Okay, good night.

1:22:17 Propellerheads All right.

1:22:18 Caller See?

1:22:20 Adam That's good comedy.

1:22:21 Caller All right.

1:22:22 Drew Is that what that was?

1:22:23 Propellerheads No.

1:22:23 Drew Good comedy?

1:22:24 Caller All right.

1:22:25 Adam Flu comedy. Let me give the name of the band and the name of the record one more time, so people can go out there and find it at the local CD dispenser. Propellerheads is the name of the band. Dex and Drums and Rock and Roll is the name of the CD. Alex Giver, thank you very much.

1:22:43 Propellerheads It's my pleasure.

1:22:44 Adam We do appreciate it. And anytime you're in town, you're crisscrossing this great country of ours.

1:22:49 Propellerheads Don't bother to call Linus.

1:22:50 Adam No, no. Stop on buying Kick Drr in the Narts.

1:22:54 Propellerheads Keep up the good work.

1:22:55 Adam We'll be back.

1:22:56 I feel so liquidy, really, like...

1:23:23 Caller Yes, break it down! All right.

1:23:30 Adam Hey, it's Loveline. Now, Skifford is left from Propellerheads, and we wish them all the luck and success in the world. Hey, Drew. I don't know if you know about this, but we're going to do Hollywood Squares.

1:23:48 Caller Oh, I heard about that.

1:23:50 Drew I heard about that.

1:23:52 Adam Now, you know what's kind of weird is, there are certain things that we don't want to do.

1:23:58 Drew But I won't do. If you don't want to do it, I won't do it.

1:24:02 Adam Okay. There are certain things I don't want to do, and there are certain things that Drew will not do. But Hollywood Squares is not one of them, because I grew up watching Hollywood Squares. And to me, the notion of being on that show is almost surreal.

1:24:20 Drew Yeah. But to me, it's the max of being sick and home from school.

1:24:26 Adam Right.

1:24:26 Drew It wasn't that he watched it. He wouldn't miss it.

1:24:28 Adam He'd watch Paul Lin, and he'd have Rosemarie would be next to him, and Grandpa, what's his name, and who the hell else was on that show? I was, I was, they had like, they had like some regulars. Four or five regulars. It just stayed on for what seemed like 20 seasons.

1:24:52 Caller Yeah.

1:24:53 Drew I hear, I hear it's, they're, they're really moving up. I heard Whoopi Goldberg is in the middle square.

1:24:57 Adam No.

1:24:58 Drew Yes.

1:24:59 Adam She's the hub.

1:25:00 Propellerheads Yes.

1:25:00 Adam She's the black hub.

1:25:02 Drew And Sharon Stone's gonna be on it.

1:25:04 Adam No.

1:25:05 Propellerheads Yes.

1:25:05 Drew They told me.

1:25:06 Adam But not the one we're on.

1:25:07 Drew I know.

1:25:08 Adam Believe me, I know this stuff works. They tell you who they've contacted, not who's gonna be on. And meanwhile, we're nestled in between Mother Love and Jim J. Bullock. That's the way it's gonna work. Absolutely. Oh, yes.

1:25:23 Drew No.

1:25:23 Adam And like the fifth Baldwin brother. The one that hasn't been born yet. The Baldwin zygote.

1:25:32 Drew Well, at least there's nothing, there's nothing harmful about that show, as I see it.

1:25:35 Adam No, no, just your reputation. And when do we do that show? Is that next week?

1:25:39 Drew No, sometime in August, I think.

1:25:41 Adam Oh, it is? That's going to be surreal. I think we're going to be stuffed in the same square. Wait till I break wind in that square, everybody. Believe me, I'm going to break wind in that square. It'll be a first for Hollywood Squares. All right, and how does that show work? They give you the real answer, or they don't give you the real answer, but I know they review the questions with you, so you can be funny.

1:26:05 Drew You're supposed to make some fake questions, but the real answer is up too, right?

1:26:08 Adam Oh, boy. I can see a fight breaking out in that thing, Drew.

1:26:11 Drew What I love is they're going to hand you some written material.

1:26:13 Adam Oh, that's going to be excellent. You think my comedy is bad, everybody. Where do you see the written stuff that they want me to say? I have never been handed a piece of written copy that was worth the paper it was written on.

1:26:27 Drew For television?

1:26:29 Adam Anything. Anything. All right, you ready to move ahead? So we'll keep you posted with that. That should be surreal. And what do we get paid? Do we get paid?

1:26:38 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:26:38 Adam How much?

1:26:39 Caller I don't know.

1:26:41 Propellerheads The usual. Really?

1:26:43 Adam Scale?

1:26:44 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:26:45 Adam Scale is like $575. Morgan?

1:26:49 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:26:49 Adam No, they got to give you more for that gig. Morgan?

1:26:53 Drew We'll be on five shows.

1:26:54 Adam You're 12. If they do all five of them in one day or something. Right. It's actually kind of fun, I guess.

1:27:00 Drew Morgan?

1:27:01 Adam What's going on?

1:27:02 Caller Well, I'm 12 and I'm pregnant and I mean I know that's a really young age and I have no clue what to do.

1:27:10 Caller And I'm just really scared.

1:27:11 Drew Where are your parents?

1:27:12 Caller Like, they're at home. I mean, I'm at my friend's house right now but it's just that I just, I asked my mom what she would do.

1:27:20 Drew Oh, so you told your mom about it?

1:27:21 Caller No, no, I asked her. Like, when I was little, like when I was 10, I asked her what she would do if I was pregnant.

1:27:29 Drew What did she say?

1:27:30 Caller She said that she would kick me out because she wouldn't want to take care of the baby because she's had four kids.

1:27:35 Drew How old was she when she had her first kid?

1:27:37 Caller I think she was 23.

1:27:40 Adam For her first kid?

1:27:41 Caller Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I can't remember.

1:27:44 Drew How old is your oldest sister?

1:27:45 Caller My sister is 23 but my brother is 24.

1:27:49 Drew How old's your mom?

1:27:50 Caller She's 43.

1:27:52 Adam Okay, so she was 21.

1:27:54 Drew 19.

1:27:54 Adam Oh, 19. Wait, did I screw that up?

1:27:57 Drew She's 24 and she's 43.

1:27:59 Adam Yeah, 20?

1:28:00 Drew 19.

1:28:01 Propellerheads All right.

1:28:02 Adam All right, so Morgan?

1:28:04 Caller Yeah?

1:28:05 Adam How old was the guy that got you pregnant?

1:28:07 Caller 14.

1:28:08 Propellerheads Really?

1:28:09 Adam And is this your boyfriend?

1:28:11 Caller Yeah, well, we're kind of messed up right now because he teased on me a lot. And when I was on the phone with my friend on Three Way, he asked her out.

1:28:19 Drew Oh, nice. How do you know you're pregnant?

1:28:22 Caller Because my cousin got me one of those pregnant testings because I felt really sick one day. And I told her about it. And I mean, we used the condom and we took about two of them. And they said that I was pregnant.

1:28:35 Adam You used the condom?

1:28:36 Caller Yeah. And I like broke, I guess. I don't know what happened.

1:28:39 Adam What do you mean you don't know what happened?

1:28:41 Caller No, but I used one and I don't know how I would be pregnant by that.

1:28:45 Drew How long ago was this sexual contact?

1:28:47 Caller What do you mean? Like, how long ago did we do it?

1:28:49 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:28:50 Caller It was like last month, June 8th.

1:28:53 Drew Was it the first time you ever did it?

1:28:54 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:28:55 Adam You just say you've done it once only?

1:28:57 Propellerheads Yeah.

1:28:58 Adam Then you wore a condom?

1:28:59 Caller Yeah.

1:29:03 Drew Can you go to a doctor or play on parenthood, something like that, and get it checked out to make sure you're really pregnant?

1:29:10 Caller Yeah.

1:29:10 Drew That's what you ought to do. I mean, you're going to have to get involved in health care one way or another here, right?

1:29:14 Caller Yeah.

1:29:15 Drew Regardless of what you just decide to do with this pregnancy.

1:29:18 Adam What grade are you in?

1:29:21 Drew I would think, you know what? You're going to need your parents' involvement here. I don't think you can get anything under the age of 14.

1:29:27 Adam You mean like an abortion?

1:29:29 Drew Well, even health care, you need parental involvement, I think, under 14, most states. So, I mean, you got to tell your parents.

1:29:39 Caller I just really nervous because things will get so bad.

1:29:42 Drew Why don't you at least call Planned Parenthood? Let me give you a national number, okay?

1:29:46 Adam All right, hold on, let her go get a pen while Drew's priming himself to give this number out. What do you think's up at home, though, that she's 12 and giving it up?

1:30:00 Drew Some disaster at home, of course.

1:30:02 Adam You think so?

1:30:02 Drew Of course.

1:30:03 Propellerheads Okay, I got one.

1:30:04 Drew We haven't heard about dad yet.

1:30:05 Adam Where's your dad?

1:30:06 Propellerheads He is at home. Yeah, he's at home with my mom.

1:30:09 Adam What kind of guy is he?

1:30:11 Caller I don't really like him.

1:30:13 Drew What's he do?

1:30:13 Caller He's just a major jerk.

1:30:15 Drew What's he do?

1:30:16 Caller He's molested my cousin on my ninth birthday when I was there with all my friends. And he's just done a lot of crap.

1:30:23 Drew Did in front of you?

1:30:25 Caller Yeah, he says like, he really messed me up. Like I had a band concert and he just messed up my flute and stuff. And like, it was like a big band concert. And I just hate the stuff he does. He means all my friends when they come over. I hate him. I mean, I tell my aunt like I want to kill him.

1:30:42 Adam But he molested your cousin in front of her. Well, not in front of her, but you knew what was going on, right?

1:30:50 Caller Like we were all, I was sleeping. Like I had a sleepover for my birthday and like almost like I had four friends over and five counting her and I was sleeping. She was awake with my friend and he called her out there so that we could get to sleep, even though we were all asleep. And it was like three in the morning and he took her out there. And my friend, she woke me up and told me that my dad called her out. And so I went out there and I saw it. And then my cousin told me after.

1:31:19 Adam How old is your cousin?

1:31:20 Caller She's 16 right now.

1:31:22 Drew Not nice.

1:31:22 Adam And did did your aunt or uncle find out about this?

1:31:26 Caller Yeah, they got really mad. And my dad apologized, but he only apologized to my uncle.

1:31:31 Drew Because that man apologized and OK, thank you for apologizing.

1:31:35 Caller But he didn't apologize to her. That's the thing.

1:31:37 Drew You know what? There is no apology for this. There is no apology for this. There is only consequence.

1:31:44 Adam Well, I mean, like, hey, come on, can't we? I know I felt your kid up. But can't we let bygones be bygones? Couldn't you? They wouldn't accept that, Drew?

1:31:52 Drew Let me give you the Planned Parenthood number. It's 1-800-230-PLAN.

1:31:58 Propellerheads All right.

1:31:59 Drew Talk to them about what your options are, OK?

1:32:01 Propellerheads All right.

1:32:02 Adam All right, Morgan. Morgan, don't just let this thing go.

1:32:06 Drew And don't screw up your own life, because your dad's an asshole, OK? It's not your fault he's an asshole. I'm sorry that you have that day.

1:32:12 Adam Please talk to these people.

1:32:14 Propellerheads All right.

1:32:14 Adam Go talk, call this number and talk to these people.

1:32:17 Propellerheads All right.

1:32:18 Adam This will not go away.

1:32:20 Propellerheads All right.

1:32:20 Drew Isn't it interesting how people will defend their inner concept of the parent to their own destruction? You know, I'm bad, that's why dad behaves this way, is sort of what they end up feeling. And they'll defend that idealized parent as opposed to accepting just how hideous and despicable these people are that happen to be their parents.

1:32:45 Adam And Anne commented on my trying to pinch a loaf look that I'm giving. I am just, you know, I'm picturing the four kids, four, he's got four of his own. Could you imagine having your brother feel up your son or daughter? I mean, how?

1:33:04 Drew Stuff like this makes me sick. I guess it does.

1:33:07 Adam How, you know, how foreign is that? How, how just bizarre is that? You know, there's certain crimes, I understand, like insurance fraud. I even understand, you know, I understand people killing their husbands or wives because they're gonna get 200 grand from Mutual of Omaha. I don't condone it unless a guy had it coming. But I understand what the motivation is. There's something in it for them, right? Do you know what I'm saying? What the hell is in it for you? Were you getting a hand up the panties of your, you know, 12 year old niece? Do you know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm disgusted with all of you. You hear me?

1:33:46 Drew No, no, no, we're done.

1:33:47 Adam We are? And Mary's been on hold for 87 minutes though. Mary, Mary's 19 is dating a 31 year old guy. Will this continue to be a pattern for her? Well, unless you break the pattern, Mary.

1:34:00 Drew You mean dating older guys?

1:34:01 Caller I've always dated older guys.

1:34:03 Caller It's something about young guys. They just-

1:34:05 Drew How does he treat you, this guy?

1:34:06 Caller This guy, I mean, he's like a really great guy. I mean, it's not, I mean, he doesn't even want to have like a sexual relationship.

1:34:12 Adam That's even more flawed. I know that sounds retarded, but that's really flawed. Because the only reason you should be dating a 19 year old is to get laid when you're 31. There's some engineer, Mike's not in his head like one of those dogs in the back of the car. It's true. You're dating a 19 year old at 31 and you're not trying to get in her pants.

1:34:33 Drew Maybe you feel so guilty about the fact that that's what he's actually doing, that he's compensating for it by not doing it.

1:34:38 Adam All right. I don't know what it is, but we got to go to break.

1:34:55 This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of the staff or management or producers or directors or the advertising or anyone. They might be Bob's.

1:35:04 I'm Bob and they're mine.

1:35:06 The producer of Loveline is Ann Wilkins. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

1:35:12 We now turn you to your highly tested, regularly scheduled programming.

1:35:16 Bye.

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