Episode 1000754887082

4:35 Voiceover 10, 9, 8, 7, 6.

4:53 Voiceover Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number, 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medic, and a doctor.

5:06 Voiceover I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, fax number, 310-854-4455. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medic, medicine specialist, and a real hobnobber with the stars, Donald Trump and who else?

5:26 Drew Martha Stewart.

5:27 Adam Martha Stewart, you had lunch or dinner with on Friday, last night, Nicole Kidman and...

5:32 Drew Quite a weekend.

5:33 Adam What's going on with you and your career, Drew? What happened?

5:36 Drew Not a hell of a lot.

5:36 Adam I thought we agreed we were going to stay home.

5:40 Drew I've been trying to.

5:41 Adam Yeah, you're right.

5:41 Drew Listen, I did that... By the way, let's mention the UC San Diego thing. That's more important.

5:47 Adam Okay, we're going to be out at the University of San Diego, UC San Diego.

5:51 Drew University of California San Diego on Tuesday night.

5:53 Adam Tuesday night.

5:54 Drew And we would like to come see us. It's had a lot of fun, really.

5:58 Adam Oh yeah, it's a good time.

5:59 Drew You and I haven't done anything in about a year.

6:00 Adam No, and this may be it, so watch me.

6:03 Drew This is our swan song.

6:04 Adam Didn't Dick Shawn die up on stage in San Diego? I may be doing that.

6:10 Drew No, but he actually dropped dead.

6:11 Adam Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

6:12 Drew Yeah, you're just going to die.

6:13 Adam No, I'm looking to drop dead, so come on out and witness the spectacle that is me dropping dead on stage in San Diego to celebrate the anniversary of Dick Shawn dropping dead.

6:22 Drew Nice, very nice.

6:24 Adam All right, you want to talk about anything? We'll get right into it. Katherine LaNasa and David Allen Bashe is here tonight from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday nights at 930. Show replaced, what show did this show replace?

6:40 Guest Didn't replace Third Rock, I'll tell you that much.

6:42 No, it didn't. They moved some things around.

6:45 Guest They replaced the Michael Richards show.

6:46 Yeah, we did. Kramer didn't cut out.

6:48 Guest Yeah, we did.

6:49 Adam Yeah, yeah. And this is, let's see. I see we haven't seen the show because we're here every Tuesday night at 930.

6:57 Drew But the show... Neither of us have TiVo.

6:58 Adam I'm going to go with the show, Hit the Air, five weeks ago.

7:02 Wow.

7:02 Drew Yeah, about that.

7:03 That's pretty close.

7:03 Guest What was it, January...

7:04 5 or 7, yeah, right around January 9th or 10th or something like that.

7:07 Guest 9th, January 9th.

7:08 I think we've been on about six weeks or so.

7:10 Adam And how's it doing?

7:12 Guest It's actually the greatest thing since Slice Bread. Really?

7:14 Adam It's the greatest show on TV?

7:15 Guest Uh-huh. It's the greatest thing ever. Wow. Isn't that amazing?

7:19 Adam Yeah.

7:19 Guest I've heard greatest thing since Slice Bread.

7:22 Adam Yeah. To me, Slice Bread not such a breakthrough.

7:24 Guest Yeah, but you weren't around before Slice Bread.

7:26 Adam That's true.

7:26 Guest Yeah.

7:27 Adam You know, I was saying to someone today, while I was listening, actually Friday night, I was listening to the radio and someone, it was like a snippet from a TV show and I go, listen buddy, I could buy and sell you. And I thought, you know, the sell part, not a big deal. It's really the buy. They should leave the sell right off of that. Like put an item in there, like I could buy that rolls.

7:48 Drew And sell it.

7:49 Adam And sell it. Yeah.

7:50 Okay.

7:50 Adam Yeah.

7:50 Sure.

7:51 Adam You could sell it.

7:51 Drew Big deal.

7:52 Big deal.

7:53 Adam It's the buying. I don't know why I jumped into my head, but they should really just stop it at buy. I could buy you, mister.

8:00 Guest Yeah.

8:01 Adam Yeah.

8:02 Guest Yeah. It wouldn't go over big in the South.

8:04 Adam No.

8:04 Guest Yeah.

8:05 Adam No. And here with the selling.

8:07 She's from the South. She can say that.

8:08 Adam Oh, you are. Where are you from?

8:10 Guest I'm from Louisiana.

8:11 Adam Geez. I was just wasn't I just there?

8:13 Guest Did you go to Mardi Gras?

8:14 Adam Yeah, I did.

8:14 Guest Wow.

8:15 Adam Yeah.

8:16 Drew Are you from New Orleans?

8:17 Guest Yeah. I was born in New Orleans. Both of my parents are from New Orleans.

8:20 Adam Were you a prostitute for a while? Or isn't everyone a prostitute there?

8:23 Guest Yeah. Yeah. I actually started in prostitution. Funny you should ask.

8:26 Drew When she was six, she got out of school the time she was nine.

8:28 Adam The guy's run.

8:28 Guest And then I came to LA and I played a prostitute on TV many times. And that's how I got where I am now.

8:33 Adam I was only there for four days.

8:35 Guest How do you think we got our time slot? Yeah.

8:36 Adam But what I gather the guys run booze and the girls do prostitution. That's as much as I could tell about Louisiana.

8:45 Guest There's definitely a lot of professional alcoholics down there.

8:48 Adam Just kidding.

8:49 Guest Just about everybody in Al-Anon is from Louisiana. That's what I figure. Everyone runs from Louisiana and joins Al-Anon.

8:58 Adam And New Orleans becomes like France in the Tour de France. You know what I mean?

9:03 Drew Like Marquis de Saib.

9:06 Adam It attracts some of the greatest drinkers from around the country and around the world to come out there.

9:11 Drew It's all for the beads.

9:12 Adam And compete.

9:13 It's all about the beads.

9:14 Guest When I was growing up, we would talk in hush tones about neighbors that didn't drink. No, seriously. It would be kind of like, they don't drink. They were kind of strange.

9:23 Adam You had regular jobs there. Did they pay in beads those jobs?

9:28 Guest No, but people will do anything for those beads, won't they?

9:30 Adam Oh, yes. Oh, yes. You know, one thing you don't hear about so much, probably because the tourist board isn't excited about it, is that street, that Bourbon Street, about 2, 3 in the morning, it gets fairly gamey out there.

9:47 Drew You're peeing off the clothes and stuff.

9:48 A lot of urine, a lot of vomit, a lot of sweat, a lot of spilled hurricanes and beer.

9:54 See, I don't get it. There's a beautiful tourist campaign right there.

9:57 Adam The entire street is wet, and plus it's always, it's always 100 percent humidity. So these beads drop on the ground on occasion, and if you're not paying attention, and you're standing out on a balcony, you can get hit with a handful of gutter beads, which will leave like a tire track across your face. Like I said, a mixture between a hurricane urine, fecal matter, beer, sweat.

10:23 Guest They used to be made of glass.

10:25 Drew Hepatitis.

10:26 Adam Yeah.

10:26 Guest My mother has a chipped tooth from getting hit in the teeth with the party girl beads.

10:30 Adam You got to show faster next time.

10:32 Guest All right. From back in the day, old style beads.

10:34 Adam That's a badge of honor. How'd you chip your tooth?

10:38 Guest Chipped some beads.

10:39 Adam Jessica?

10:40 Yes.

10:40 Adam You're 17? What's up?

10:43 Caller I had sex a week ago, and I keep creaming, and I can't stop. Even when I'm not having sex, it'll go for 15 seconds, and then it'll stop, and then it'll go again.

10:54 Drew Wait a minute.

10:55 Adam Did you say the word creaming?

10:57 Drew Yeah.

10:58 Adam Yeah, yeah. We got it.

10:59 Drew We follow. So you're having recurrent sort of...

11:01 Guest David's ears perked up.

11:03 I'm just thinking of the Seattle earthquake.

11:05 Drew Are you having any other symptoms like an irritation or discharge, anything like that?

11:09 No.

11:10 Drew You know, this happens sometimes, and sometimes it's from irritation and sort of... Were you guys going at it for a long time? Yeah.

11:17 Caller It was like almost two hours.

11:19 Drew Yeah.

11:20 Adam Holy Christ. Collectively, I don't have two hours in my bathroom.

11:24 Drew So it's like little earthquakes are continuing to go. Hot baths and time, and you'll be fine.

11:29 Adam Okay. Are you talking about the spice time?

11:32 We didn't ask if she actually wanted it to stop. She just told us what was going on.

11:35 Drew It gets kind of weird and uncomfortable, doesn't it?

11:37 Adam Jessica?

11:38 Guest Yes?

11:39 Adam Do you enjoy the sensation of creaming?

11:42 Guest Yes, it feels good.

11:43 Adam I see. Really? It's like a mini orgasm?

11:48 Drew Yes. I'll keep going for a couple of days sometimes.

11:49 Adam Really? It's like my dad used to have a VW and he'd pull the keys out. We'd be walking to the Zodies and it'd still be running.

11:58 Drew Yes, exactly like that.

11:59 Adam The vagina gets fired up and just keeps running.

12:02 Drew It's a carburetor problem.

12:04 Adam Yes. They call that dieseling. That's nice. I'd like to make some bitch diesel one day.

12:09 Drew Those women are obviously already multiply orgasmic and so they just keep going.

12:12 Caller No kidding.

12:14 Adam Dylan, that's like some sort of perpetual motion vagina. You just get it started.

12:18 Drew Keep going.

12:19 Adam Dylan.

12:21 Yes.

12:21 Adam You're 14.

12:22 Caller Yeah.

12:23 Adam What's up?

12:24 Guest I had unprotected sex on Thursday.

12:27 Adam No, you didn't.

12:28 Guest Yes, I did.

12:28 Adam No, you didn't.

12:30 Guest Why do you not believe me?

12:31 Adam Is this Dylan the boy?

12:33 Guest Yes.

12:34 Adam Yeah, because your voice changes.

12:36 Guest I know you say that a lot.

12:38 Adam Yeah.

12:39 Guest You say that your voice changes, but my voice hasn't changed yet.

12:42 Adam No, Ace. Yeah, I still think you're a virgin.

12:45 Guest No, I'm not.

12:47 Adam What was the name of the girl?

12:48 Guest Noel.

12:49 Caller All right, a quick answer.

12:51 Adam Yeah. What room were you in?

12:53 Guest We were in a car actually.

12:56 Adam A car?

12:57 Guest Mustang.

12:57 Adam Yeah, whose car?

12:59 Guest It was our friend's.

13:00 Adam I see. They let you use their parked car?

13:03 Guest They didn't know we were using their parked car.

13:05 Adam Right, but you didn't drive the car?

13:07 Guest No.

13:07 Drew How old was the girl?

13:09 Guest The girl is six. Oh, the girl, Noel?

13:11 Adam Yeah.

13:11 Guest She's 14.

13:12 Adam I see. And you had unprotected sex.

13:15 Guest Right.

13:16 Adam Why did you have unprotected sex?

13:17 Guest We drank first.

13:19 Adam Oh, I see. Well, that's fine. As long as you're boozing pretty good. And I can't believe it's coming out of that voice box.

13:29 Drew If he'd been sexually abused at a young age, then if he had been, then this would be no big deal to him. You know what I mean? Yes?

13:36 Adam Did you get sexually abused?

13:38 Guest Not really. I kind of fooled around with a girl when I was like five, but I barely remember it.

13:43 Adam All right. That's nothing. How old was she?

13:45 Guest She was same age.

13:47 Drew Was it? Did you have intercourse with her?

13:49 Guest No.

13:50 Drew What did you do?

13:51 Guest We just kind of looked at each other.

13:53 Drew Well, that's normal.

13:54 Adam Yeah. Dylan?

13:58 Guest Yeah.

13:58 Adam All right. So are you scared you got her pregnant? What comes out of your penis at this age? Pez? Or is it semen?

14:05 Guest What? It was. Yeah, I did.

14:08 Adam Was that actually fluid came out?

14:10 Guest Yeah.

14:11 Adam I see. So maybe you got her pregnant, right?

14:14 Guest That was what I was afraid of. But then we tried to get the morning after pill.

14:18 Adam Yeah.

14:18 Guest But they wouldn't let her because she didn't have an appointment.

14:21 Drew She's too young too.

14:23 Guest No, she isn't. Is she?

14:24 Drew Well, she's 14. That's right. Okay. Yeah.

14:26 Adam I thought she was 13.

14:27 Guest No, 14.

14:28 Adam Okay. She's an older woman.

14:29 Guest Does she know where she was in her cycle? Could she get pregnant?

14:33 Guest That's the thing. Then she had, yesterday she had her period.

14:37 Drew Let's reassure her. When did this happen? The intercourse?

14:39 Adam This happened a week ago.

14:40 Drew Thursday.

14:41 Adam So are you guys boyfriend and girlfriend?

14:43 Guest I think so.

14:44 Drew The problem is that bleeding even a week or two out can be an ectopic pregnancy. So you got to be careful if she gets any abdominal pain or if the bleeding seems abnormal. It's too late to take the morning after pill now.

14:56 Guest Yeah. They wouldn't let us do it because she didn't have an appointment. We tried but they're not open until Monday.

15:04 Adam Yeah. We have a great plan as a nation. Let's keep those gun shows nice and legal. Meanwhile, let's make it hard as hell for a teen to have unprotected sex to get hold of the morning after pill. It's just a great look down the road. You know what I mean? It's great planning for our nation's future. We got to get to Canada.

15:22 Caller If we could get a pill for the last call, pill to simulate what the last caller had, there would be a lot of women that would take that.

15:27 Adam The creaming pill?

15:28 Caller The constant motion.

15:30 Adam Well, all right, so she should go to the gynecologist.

15:34 Drew She needs to be followed now that she's sexually active. If she has any pelvic pain or any heavy bleeding, take her immediately.

15:41 Adam All right. Where are we going to? Stephanie here. Stephanie?

15:45 Hi, Adam and Dr. Drew?

15:46 Adam And Katherine and David Allen, too.

15:49 Hi, Dr. Drew, I saw you last night at my campus and you were great for Politically Incorrect.

15:53 Drew Oh, thanks.

15:54 And it was fabulous. Actually, it's not so much a question I have. I'm glad that I followed this call. Actually, I just started an organization called emergencybirthcontrol.org and it's just to raise awareness about the morning after pill. And I've been listening to Loveline for so long and it's still amazing how little people know about it and what misinformation is out there.

16:14 Drew And God bless you. We are ready to back you up.

16:18 Adam As long as it doesn't mean leaving the house.

16:20 Drew So it's emergencybirthcontrol.org. That's the website.

16:24 That's the website. And as of yet, we are not incorporated, but we are working on becoming incorporated as a non-profit. But so far, basically our goals are just spreading awareness in university centers especially because I am a student at UCLA in my last year and I've even kind of contacted pharmacies around here and pharmacists are completely unaware of it.

16:44 Drew Listen, I am, you know, we got your back, you know what I mean, we are on board with this.

16:48 Adam Yeah. I'd like to see your front too as long as we're covering you. You know, I was just watching the news tonight and they were talking about these gay bars in West LA having to have mandatory pamphlets on safe sex and fish bowls filled with condoms and all this kind of stuff. It seems, and I was thinking to myself and I thought, listen, these homos don't need to know another thing about AIDS. They have had an ass full of AIDS, pardon the pun. That's going to be the name of my band, Ass Full of AIDS. But the point...

17:20 Guest God help me.

17:22 God help me now.

17:23 Adam These guys are hard.

17:24 Guest How much longer are we in here?

17:25 Caller These guys are hard core.

17:27 Adam But the point is, is we don't need to deal... Let's leave the homos alone. They know all about AIDS. They know all about condoms. They know about the risk and everything. What about the morning after pill? Why don't we focus? Where is the direction for this? We're busting our ass to get the condoms at gay bars, for Christ's sake.

17:47 Caller College campuses are great, but the last two callers were 15 and 14.

17:52 Ultimately, I also work for a very prominent rape treatment center, and we do education regarding sexual assaults and sexual harassment and everything like that. And we actually have programs that go into middle schools. We could incorporate something like the morning after pill in those kind of educational programs. It would just be such a service. And this is kind of a shameless plug, I'm sorry, but if you could announce it on Loveline, the website...

18:18 Drew But you're talking on Loveline right now.

18:20 Yeah, I don't think it's actually getting through in Los Angeles.

18:23 Drew I think it's broadcasting again. They're back on the air now.

18:25 Oh, really? I'm sorry, I don't have a radio.

18:28 Drew No, they're back on the air. The lightning hit the transmitter at K-Rock in Los Angeles.

18:31 Adam Yeah, that's bad karma from all the DJs doing drugs for all those years. That's God's wrath.

18:37 Yeah, and also if you would be able to look at the site and give us any kind of feedback.

18:41 Drew You know what, I did look at it just before I came on the air and I would add one thing. It's a great site. And the only thing I would add is you bring up a little bit about the phase in the issues of when conception occurs and that kind of thing. And you point out that other products cause similar kinds of disruption like the copper tea and whatnot. But don't forget Celebrex, Vioxx, the normal birth control pill, they all have potential of interfering the same elements of the cycle leading to conception and implantation.

19:09 Adam Hold on a second, Drew. You looked at the site before you came on the air?

19:12 Drew Yeah, Ann had it up. I just looked at it real quick for you.

19:15 Adam Oh, because you saw the call that was on hold?

19:17 Drew She said there's a call here about this look at the site. You look good. And I looked at it and I looked good.

19:21 Adam Drew, that's a link work, buddy.

19:24 Guest I think you get to have Donald, Martha Stewart, and Donald Trump.

19:26 Drew How bizarre is that?

19:28 Adam Yeah. Yeah, hold on. Tell us about having dinner with Donald Trump and Martha Stewart and why.

19:33 Drew I judged that Miss USA contest on Friday.

19:35 Adam Right.

19:35 Drew No, you didn't.

19:36 Guest With Shatner.

19:37 Drew With Shatner.

19:39 Guest With the Shat.

19:39 Drew Oh, the barrel of laugh, Bill.

19:41 Adam How do you know about that, Katherine?

19:43 Guest I just know about the Shat from Thurt Rock.

19:45 Adam Yeah.

19:45 Guest Because he came on as a big giant.

19:46 Adam But did you watch, was it on the air already?

19:50 Drew Yeah, it was live broadcast on Friday.

19:51 Guest I just pick up on all the Shat vibes when he's around. I'm kind of a Shat fan.

19:55 Caller Was that the one that said this is not your grandmother's pageant? Or something like that?

20:00 Adam So how did you do, Drew? Did you have sex with any contestants?

20:02 Drew No, no, I did not.

20:03 Adam Oh, not this time?

20:03 Drew No, not this time. And they keep the judges away and we all go out for dinner. And Donald Trump owns the operation. So he sits here, Martha Stewart's like here.

20:12 Adam What kind of vibe did you get from these people?

20:15 Drew Martha Stewart is delightful. She's exactly who you, she's Martha Stewart playing Martha Stewart.

20:19 Adam Yeah, but she seems like a pain in the ass on TV.

20:24 Drew But she's no more of a pain in the ass than you would expect as a male. You know what I'm saying?

20:28 Adam All right.

20:28 Drew You know what I'm saying?

20:29 That's high praise, Drew.

20:32 Drew I know how you would react to her. I thought she was absolutely delightful.

20:35 Adam And what about Trump?

20:36 Drew He was very nice. He was aware of our program. Couldn't figure out who I was at first. Then when he figured out, he was talking a lot about it. He listens all the time, apparently.

20:45 Adam He's got to keep in touch with the young people.

20:47 Drew Yeah, and they were all really exceptionally nice people. All right.

20:52 Adam Was it surreal?

20:54 Drew Completely surreal.

20:55 Adam Yeah. Bizarre. And you being high as a kite probably didn't help you. Yeah.

20:59 Drew He was just kicking in and I'd had a couple of bombs before he went out there.

21:02 Adam Donald's face was melting.

21:05 Caller Martha was sniffing all that craft glue.

21:06 Drew No, they were smarter. They flew their planes in.

21:09 Adam Oh yeah, they all got their own planes. Sure.

21:12 Drew It was really very interesting.

21:13 Guest There's no way I'd fly my own plane.

21:13 Drew Karen Duffy and Ananda Lewis was there.

21:15 Adam Well, they didn't fly their own planes and they chartered their own jets.

21:18 Guest Have you ever been inside one of those really, really little planes?

21:23 Adam I was in one less than a week ago. And yes, I can't stand it either. There's somehow the idea of the bigger the plane, the less it's going to crash or something. And I think it does make sense.

21:34 Guest I want to get in the biggest plane I can.

21:36 Eric?

21:37 Adam Hello? Eric?

21:39 Guest Yeah.

21:40 Adam Can you turn the radio down or the music down please?

21:43 Guest Yeah.

21:44 Caller Thank you.

21:45 Adam Eric is 14. He wants to know about the long-term effects of drawing on your arm.

21:52 Drew Yeah.

21:52 Adam What are you drawing?

21:54 Drew Flames.

21:54 Guest Stuff like that.

21:55 Adam Flames.

21:56 Drew You mean just with a ballpoint pen or something?

21:58 Guest Yeah, like a permanent marker.

22:00 Adam Uh-huh. Why are you doing that?

22:02 Guest No.

22:03 It looks cool.

22:04 Adam Yeah. Yeah, sure. Chicks love that. Who's that? Your dad? Yeah. Yeah.

22:13 Drew Think about what dad's going to be like if he's drawing flames on his arm.

22:16 Adam Does your dad mind that you're drawing on yourself? Not really. No. You know, once in a while when one of my buddies would pass out because he was loaded, we'd draw a big penis on his back, you know, with an indelible, you know, Marks-a-Lot kind of thing, he didn't seem to like that. Took a while to come out and stuff, but we didn't think about doing flames on his arm.

22:36 Drew Something embarrassing.

22:37 Adam Yeah, what about it? Does that get in your bloodstream at all? Do you absorb that?

22:41 Caller Not that I'm aware of.

22:42 Drew I can't understand why you would. I've never heard of anything like that. I've had a certain amount of hydrocarbon in that, but...

22:48 Adam You want to tattoo, Eric?

22:50 Caller Yeah, not really.

22:52 Adam Okay. All right, well, good times.

22:54 Guest Yeah.

22:54 Adam Yeah, why don't you draw some eyebrows on like my grandma does? That should be your next move. You ever see those women who get the tattoo, permanent stuff?

23:07 Guest I had a woman that worked for me one time. She had the brows, the eyeliner, and the lip liner.

23:13 Adam Yeah, it always ends up looking like a clown painting, right?

23:17 Guest I don't quite get it.

23:18 Caller What if you did flames for eyebrows?

23:20 Adam That's what you should do. Flames on the forehead.

23:22 Guest I think it's a little like sort of permanent, you know, markation of one's body is a good plan. Like just sort of don't mark yourself up too permanently.

23:31 Adam Yeah, I think the Jews got that.

23:32 Guest What if you change your mind?

23:33 Caller That's right. It's against the many religions.

23:35 Guest Is it?

23:35 Adam David?

23:36 Guest Makes good sense. Oh, yeah. I bet that's one thing God actually said.

23:39 Adam Yeah, he may have said that. He may have actually said that.

23:41 Caller He said don't draw on your car.

23:44 Adam Dave?

23:46 Oh, hello?

23:46 Adam Dave, you're 22. What's that?

23:48 Caller Hey, my name is actually Stan. I just made up that. Adam, I'm your biggest fan.

23:54 Adam Great, Stan.

23:58 Caller I was calling because...

23:59 Adam Hey, Stan, let me ask you a quick question.

24:01 Caller Yeah.

24:01 Adam Why go by Dave if your name is Stan?

24:04 Drew There's nothing wrong with the name. If you started with the false name, why announce first thing when you get on the radio that you've been lying?

24:12 Caller Don't go with Dave. Go with Alejandro. Think of something cool.

24:15 Guest Okay, well, I'll tell you the truth.

24:18 Caller My name is really Dave, but I'm a big fan of Adam.

24:23 Caller Oh, my God.

24:25 Caller Dr. Drew, I respect you a lot.

24:28 Drew Dave, do you have a question or something?

24:30 Caller Yeah.

24:31 Drew What's up?

24:33 Caller It's about a DNA test. I've tried calling different places and I can't find any place that has them to find out the results for, you know, if you're HIV positive.

24:46 Drew Why don't you do an antibody test?

24:49 Adam Do you want to get the FAST test?

24:51 Caller Yeah, because, I mean, it happened like about a month ago. I had unprotected sex.

24:57 Drew Yeah, the DNA test is not going to be super accurate in screening out the possibility of you having been exposed, okay?

25:03 Caller Yeah.

25:04 Drew If it's positive, it's very accurate, but if it's negative, you still need an antibody test anyway.

25:09 Adam Hey, I never, how does that math work?

25:11 Drew It's basically that if you have been exposed, there's going to be an antibody response.

25:15 Adam Right.

25:15 Drew But it's less predictable when the DNA production is going to kick in, how much virus can be produced. That might be delayed, maybe, you know, at six months, everyone will have had an antibody response.

25:25 Adam You know what's going through my mind right now?

25:27 Drew The Charlie Browns teacher?

25:28 Adam The theme from Superfly. I'm lost now. Wah wah, wah wah wah wah. Hey, Dave?

25:36 Caller Yeah.

25:36 Adam Who were you having sex with? A high-risk person?

25:39 Caller No, just a girl I met at a club.

25:41 Adam Yeah, you're probably fine.

25:43 Drew You're probably fine. Go ahead and you should get a test anyway to be responsible, get other screening done. And where can he do that? He can do that where? Any healthcare provider can do that for you. And their alternative test sites can do it very anonymously, but you want to be sure you get the counseling done before and after the test is done, and then again at six months. And don't look around for a... People always want to get around the system, right? There's a reason that the screening tests are the screening tests we have. Use that. If you get... You start screwing around with the system and doing things that are not considered standard of care, you're not getting quality care. You're messing with a system that's a certain way for a reason.

26:15 Adam All right. We will take ourselves a little break. Catherine and David Alan are both here from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday nights, 930. When we come back, we'll speak to Andrea. 26 was with a friend and her husband. A little threesome after this.

26:31 Guest Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.

26:34 Adam We'll be right back.

27:06 Caller Yep, it is Loveline.

27:07 Adam I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Catherine Lanosa and David Alan Basche are both here from Three Sisters, 9.30, NBC, Tuesday nights. And when we left off, we're going to speak to Andrea. Although I bet she's going to tell me to pronounce her name differently. Andrea?

27:27 Hi. No, that's all right.

27:29 Adam All right.

27:29 Drew I'm Andrea.

27:31 Adam You're 26?

27:32 Caller Yeah.

27:33 Adam Now, what's up with you?

27:35 Caller Well, I just found out a while ago that my best friend's husband has hepatitis C. And I just want to make sure if I'm all right with being intimate with both of them.

27:47 Drew You're going to be intimate with both of them?

27:49 Caller No, I have been for about a year.

27:51 Drew What is going on? You should be tested for hepatitis C for sure.

27:55 Caller Yeah.

27:56 Drew For sure. It's not an easy thing to get that way, but it does happen. I'm totally convinced of it.

28:00 Adam Does hepatitis C mean pass sexually?

28:03 Drew Certainly through anal sex it can be and probably through vaginal test.

28:07 Adam Yeah, I'd say that's it. Is that in your range, Andrea?

28:09 Caller Yeah. No, anal is more.

28:12 Adam Oh. Anal threesome?

28:16 Caller There's another good band name.

28:17 Adam Anal threesome and aasphalates. Who would open for who? I think anal threesome.

28:23 Drew The backup would be all sort of open for each other though, wouldn't they?

28:27 Caller Well, his wife said that there wasn't any problem because she's talked to his doctors and...

28:32 Drew That is BS. That is one of the diseases. It's transmitted exactly like HIV.

28:37 Caller Okay.

28:38 Drew And there's been debate about whether it's actually transmitted but I promise you it can.

28:42 Adam Oh, wait a minute.

28:43 Drew And certainly through anal sex. And by the way, in his wildest imagination, her doctor didn't think that he was having threesomes with neighbors and having anal sex with them.

28:51 Caller Well...

28:53 Adam Were you having anal sex with them?

28:55 Caller Yeah, both. All, you know, whatever but...

28:59 Adam Where was she?

29:01 Caller She was involved.

29:03 Adam She was involved? Boy, I tell you, this guy says he's got quite a wish list here.

29:09 Caller Well, I work with him and...

29:10 Adam Oh, well, if you guys are colleagues. That's different. I have Kornholdt, engineer Anderson, and... And at the same time. Yeah, sure. Drew. Oh, of course. I didn't know you guys worked here. Why don't you say something? It's totally a totally different scenario. Sure.

29:27 Caller She gets tested all the time and...

29:29 Drew Tested for what? Tested for what?

29:31 Caller Hepatitis.

29:32 Adam I see.

29:33 Drew If she has no risk, why does she get tested all the time?

29:35 Caller Um, she likes to make sure, but...

29:38 Drew Well, because she may well get trans... Why are we not using condoms with this guy?

29:43 Caller Well, he's fixed and...

29:46 Adam Right, but he has hepatitis.

29:47 Drew Hepatitis. Is he an IV drug user? Yes.

29:50 Caller No. He got it from blood transfusion.

29:53 Drew Why did he get blood transfusion?

29:54 Caller Um, leukemia. About 12 years ago.

29:58 Adam Well, maybe he's on borrowed time and he's living like there's no tomorrow. It's like... Last wish. Honey, if you make it through the surgery, I'll give you anything. How about anal with your best friend and a nice threesome? Hey, what do you do for a living just because it'll be funny?

30:13 Caller I work in a lab.

30:15 Adam You work in a lab?

30:16 Caller Yeah.

30:16 Caller You don't happen to do hepatitis C tests at the lab, do you?

30:19 Caller No, but they do them right next to where I'm at.

30:23 Adam Here's a question that always makes my scrotum hurt. Do they have any kids?

30:30 Caller Yeah.

30:30 Caller No!

30:32 Adam Oh.

30:33 Caller Two boys.

30:34 Adam Yeah. Oh, yeah. Great.

30:35 Caller And I have a daughter.

30:37 Adam You guys are wonderful, wonderful role models. Wonderful. And you know what I love? I love it when they go, no, we don't let them in the room. They don't know what's going on. Yeah. They don't know what's going on. They're just raised by two nut jobs. They're well aware of the being raised by two nut job part. That leaves the bedroom as soon as they zip their pants up. Hey, can you? I'm sorry. Go ahead, Katherine.

31:00 Guest Yeah. One of my son's friends walked into one of those scenes.

31:06 Drew With his parents and somebody else?

31:08 Guest No. It was a girl that he went to school with, was spending the night with another girl and her parents had company.

31:16 Adam Really?

31:16 Guest Yeah.

31:17 Adam Swing and swing and Hollywood crowd you run with.

31:20 Guest Yeah. We changed schools. We ran from that. We're Puritans.

31:25 Adam Hey, Andrea?

31:26 Guest Yeah.

31:26 Adam All right. So get tested and why don't you knock this off on behalf of your child? Yeah?

31:33 Drew Listen, here's what I bet. You're into this guy. A little bit. You're totally into this.

31:39 Guest Was she married? Did we establish that?

31:42 Adam Yeah. Where's your guy?

31:44 Caller I'm divorced.

31:45 Guest Yeah.

31:45 Drew You want your best friend's husband.

31:48 Caller Well, I was more into her at first, but now she's not really into me.

31:51 Drew Don't you want to bet on Andrea?

31:52 Adam Yeah. All right.

31:53 Caller All right.

31:53 Drew Hold on.

31:54 Adam We got to gamble on you. I know it's been a while, but let's get the money out, everyone. Has everyone got a dollar? You don't have any money there, Drew?

32:00 Guest What are we betting on?

32:01 Adam We're gambling on her past. It's going to be tough though, because she's going to be pretty tough not to crack. Well, that's why we're gambling.

32:07 Guest What are we gambling?

32:08 Drew What hurt?

32:09 Adam Just get the dollar out.

32:10 Drew What sort of trauma has she survived in her childhood? What was her...

32:14 Adam And by the way, what if she takes off with the husband? What is the ex-wife going to do? You cheating son of a bitch! I knew it! I knew it. I knew it from the first time you cornholder and I was there handing you a beer. I knew there was something going on between you two. You know, a woman feels it. A woman has a sixth sense where she has an intuition.

32:38 Guest See, I tend to think that that kind of behavior is more deviant than maybe stemming back to sexual views.

32:44 Adam Let's just get the money out.

32:45 We'll magically put the money out.

32:48 Adam David has put his watch in.

32:50 Guest You're betting your watch? Oh, it's a prop watch.

32:53 Drew He's just spotting a watch.

32:54 Guest What am I betting? I don't even know what I'm betting on.

32:56 Caller You get a dollar.

32:58 Guest Five. I'm fancy. I'm on a TV show. I'm betting five dollars.

33:01 Caller It'll cover the eight bucks.

33:02 Adam All right. Here's what we do. Here's what we do. We gamble on Andrea's past. What got her to this position today that she thought that this lifestyle would be okay? Yeah.

33:13 Drew I'll go last.

33:14 Adam You'll go last?

33:15 Guest You're the pro at it. You know how it's done, Drew.

33:17 Adam Go first to set an example.

33:19 Drew You go first because I'll refine it. Okay.

33:22 Adam I would say... Oh, I love that. You know it's got to be some kind of wholesale sexual abuse. Dad. Physical? Dad was maybe physical abuse. Physical abuse from dad.

33:39 Drew Okay. Anything follow up to that?

33:41 Adam No. I'm just going physical abuse.

33:43 Drew Okay.

33:44 Adam Next. I'm going to get that out of her. Go ahead.

33:48 Guest You go first.

33:49 Caller I'm thinking.

33:49 Adam I'm thinking.

33:50 Guest I'm playing the psychologist.

33:51 Adam Alcoholism is a good angle.

33:52 Caller Yeah. I was going to say alcoholic mom who was unfaithful.

33:59 Adam Nice. Good angle.

34:00 Caller Mom was unfaithful to her.

34:01 Drew And alcoholism for the mom.

34:02 Caller Yeah.

34:02 Guest Yeah.

34:02 Caller Right.

34:02 Adam Katherine?

34:04 Guest Some kind of betrayal. Some kind of betrayal of one parent. Probably abuse is a good one.

34:10 Drew What kind? What kind of abuse?

34:14 Guest I guess I have to say, well, I'd say probably sexual abuse by a parent.

34:23 Drew Parent.

34:24 Guest I'd say sexual abuse by a parent. There's a deviance to that.

34:29 Drew That's where sexual impulsion and deviance comes from.

34:31 Adam Drew, go ahead. You're going to sex by a neighbor?

34:33 Drew No, I'm going to an addict dad, a deaf and addict dad. I'm going to a strong addict dad thing, like even a heroin addict dad maybe. But sexual abuse by a peer female around age 10.

34:42 Adam Ooh, ooh, yes, because she was into the wife at the beginning.

34:45 Caller That's why I went mom, I thought.

34:47 Adam Yeah, she was into the-

34:48 Drew She'll say, by the way, it wasn't sexual abuse. We were just messing around.

34:50 Adam I know, I know, but that was good. She was into the wife. Good call. Andrea?

34:54 Caller Yeah.

34:55 Adam All right, let's talk about the past real fast here.

34:57 Caller Okay.

34:58 Adam All right.

35:00 Caller Well, my dad's an alcoholic.

35:02 Adam Yeah.

35:03 Caller Yeah. I was adopted, so it was my biological dad. My mom's schizophrenic. She wasn't available to raise me. So, and sexual abuse by my dad.

35:16 We all did. It was biological.

35:18 Caller Yeah. Yeah. And physical.

35:21 Physical.

35:21 Drew All right. Well, we pulled around the horn here.

35:24 Adam Yeah.

35:25 Caller And then religious abuse by my adoptive family and emotional and.

35:30 Adam Now, what is that? They hit you with rosary beads? Or what's religious abuse?

35:35 Caller Well, you know, you're going to burn in hell, Bible something all the time.

35:39 Caller Adam, you saw Carrie.

35:40 Adam Yeah.

35:41 Drew How old were you when you started carrying on with girls?

35:45 Caller I've liked girls for a long time, but I've tried to ignore it because I know it was bad.

35:49 Drew When did you first start having a little experimentation with women?

35:53 Caller Um, I was probably in fifth grade.

35:56 Adam Oh, Drew's going for the gold here. Yeah, with a peer?

36:02 Caller Yeah.

36:03 Adam All right. So that was your first contact with a woman.

36:06 Caller Yeah. Then I remember.

36:07 Adam Fifth grade. All right. All right. So hey, baby. Yeah. Can you get your tubes tied, by the way?

36:15 Caller No, I only have one.

36:16 Adam I know. That's plenty.

36:18 Caller I would like to have more.

36:19 Adam I know you would, but it wouldn't be good for society.

36:22 Drew Or for the kids, more importantly.

36:24 Adam Yeah. We're worried about the kids. We're worried about your daughter. All right. Can you, can you...

36:27 Drew Unless you get involved in some very, you know, regular ongoing treatment for...

36:31 Caller I've been.

36:32 Drew Okay.

36:32 Adam Keep, keep it up, would you?

36:33 Caller I'm a psychiatrist.

36:34 Adam All right.

36:35 Drew Keep it going.

36:36 Adam Stay with it. And just no more with this couple, all right? No more acting out. Start being there for your child and all that good stuff.

36:44 Yeah.

36:44 Adam All right. All right, baby.

36:46 Okay.

36:46 Adam Take care of yourself.

36:47 Caller See if you can do for your daughter what nobody did for you.

36:49 Caller Yeah.

36:50 Adam That's the plan.

36:51 Caller All right?

36:52 Caller All right.

36:52 Adam Take care of yourself. All right. All right. Well, we'll give the money.

36:57 Caller I'm taking my watch back.

36:58 Adam We'll give the money to Drew.

36:59 Caller Sorry. You can have a piece of my watch, Drew. We all had a little something in there.

37:03 Drew We had the alcohol. I hit the absolute zinger with the tannery mother.

37:07 Caller But you can take that one.

37:08 Adam Yeah. No, Drew got it.

37:10 Caller Katherine had the abuse.

37:11 Guest It's a very strange thing, I think, for a woman to do that to another woman. It has to be some kind of major deep-seated betrayal by one parent.

37:22 Drew She was adopted from an addict dad to an addict dad, was sexually abused by them, then religiously abused, then started acting out on her period. Physically abused, then acting out on her period at age 10.

37:31 Adam All right. Let's talk about that.

37:33 Guest What is it about age 10?

37:35 Drew You know what? It's strange. I just get a feeling about where their development really got into trouble. The arousal mechanisms got diverted. What normal sexual development gets off track. It's just from listening to so many years of these people, I just get a real clear sense.

37:50 Adam Lucky guess. Steve?

37:52 Guest I'm going to talk to Drew after the show, figure out what's wrong with me.

37:55 Adam Steve?

37:56 Guest He can tell you during the show.

37:58 Adam Steve, you're 18.

38:01 Guest All right.

38:01 Adam Steve is like a person on hold or something. All right.

38:04 Drew Let's all. We shot our wad. Let's wipe our brow.

38:07 Adam Wipe what?

38:08 Drew Our belly?

38:09 Guest Wipe our wad.

38:10 Caller All right. We'll collectively wipe our wad off.

38:12 Adam Now that's been shot. We'll take a break. Catherine and David are both here from Three Sisters, Next Tuesday, 9th, 9.30, NBC, and we'll be back after that.

38:21 Caller Hello, who is this?

38:23 Caller This is Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191. Loveline will be right back.

38:53 Adam Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. He is Dr. Drew. Katherine LaNasa and David Allen Bashe are both here from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday night, 9.30. Let's make a question for them. Steve?

39:10 Hello?

39:11 Adam Steve, you're 22. What's up?

39:12 Caller Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, first of all, I just want to say, Drew, I think you're really a smart individual, and you know, you're totally underrated by all the viewers here.

39:19 Drew Thank you, Springfield.

39:20 Adam All of them, yep.

39:21 Caller Second of all, Adam, I think you're hilarious, and you're seriously our comedy genius, and everyone's of us.

39:25 Adam Thank you.

39:26 Caller I also got a poem right here that I think you'll like. Oh, no.

39:29 Adam Really? Do you have a question for the guest? Yeah.

39:32 Caller For the people from Three Sisters, I was just wondering, I think it was a pretty funny show, and I was just wondering how you all got together in terms of, like, if you had a separate career to start out with, in terms of stand-up or anything like that, and how NBC put you guys together to perform a new show.

39:45 Caller It was kind of potluck. I think NBC just stuck us all together to see if it would work, just like they did with all the other shows. But no, yeah, we all did a bunch of stuff before this.

39:53 Guest I had quit acting for three years and had gone back to college.

39:57 Drew What were you studying?

39:58 Guest Well, I started with psychology, but as you know, you could see I didn't get too far. I found it really depressing, and then I went to physical anthropology and mathematics. But probably would have finished my degree in philosophy, but because I think that's really why I was studying all that stuff. But I ended up getting a phone call from the head of casting from NBC, and I just, you know, they were, I don't know, they just sort of thought the show was for me. It all seemed sort of lined up, and three days later I ended up with the show and went back to work. It was a really...

40:29 Adam You didn't have to audition. They just called you.

40:31 Guest I had one audition. I auditioned for the network, and that was it.

40:35 Caller And... In terms of like humor, in the humor field, I guess, or anything like that, in the comic field.

40:39 Caller Yeah, we'd all done some comedy before.

40:41 Guest Yeah, I'd been doing it before, but it just kind of cut my losses and stopped doing it and gone back to school. Just called it a day. Didn't really think I'd be doing it anymore. But we'd all done... I had Seinfeld and Bird Rock and all those shows.

40:55 Caller Vicki Lewis was on news radio for a long time.

40:58 Guest AJ's been on a couple shows.

40:59 Caller AJ was on It's Like You Know and My So-Called Life and a bunch of other movies.

41:02 Guest Peter Bonner is the infamous Jerry the Dentist from New Heart.

41:06 Caller And Diane Pannums.

41:06 Guest You were probably not born then.

41:09 Adam Hey, Steve. Yeah. All right. How are you doing there, buddy? I'm doing fine. Okay.

41:13 Caller That was nice. You asked about the show. We might let you read that poem. We'll see.

41:17 Adam You want to read that poem real fast?

41:18 Caller What do you got?

41:19 Guest Come on. I'd be interested. I used to write poetry back in the day.

41:21 Adam All right. Go ahead, Steve.

41:23 Caller Here we go. The title is Loveline. Every night at the same time, I turn on the radio to hear Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on the Loveline show. Over the years, Loveline has become a show that is like none other. The callers range from crackheads to girls that have been raped by their brother. When callers call in with their problems, Drew always has the solutions. And often you can hear Adam in the background with his humorous contributions. Dr. Drew is very respectable for his knowledge of the penis. He can be seen almost as a penis. On men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Drew is a very handsome guy. He kind of looks like my mother. I'm sure he would like to forget the time he was on that abortion of his show, Big Brother. Adam is known as a comic genius. He can be seen regularly on a man show. If there's a question about jacking off, he is probably the person to whom he can go. Adam provides all the humor. He talks about how he needs to shave. His big and hairy bum crack looks like the Batcave. Whenever he gets jacking off, his hand is always in a blur. Then he kind of gets pissed off because he's got to clean off the comforter. All in all, Loveline helps many people to conquer their internal fits. If you've got a problem about your balls or dork, you can count on them to solve it.

42:38 Adam Thank you, Steve.

42:39 Caller I'd say that was the ending.

42:42 Drew New policy.

42:42 Adam That was pretty good.

42:43 Drew It was pretty good, but new policy.

42:44 Caller I'm just amazed he got the penis rhyme.

42:47 Guest Poems are always a scary proposition, but they're tempting, aren't they?

42:49 Drew It's tempting, but I gotta say it was very anxiety-provoking. Where are we going next?

42:55 Adam I enjoyed it. Hearing poems, especially about yourself, is like a three-card Monte game on the streets of New York. It's very tempting to plop down a twenty.

43:05 Guest I got a poem from a fan. It was called Hugs. A fan sent me a poem.

43:11 Adam From prison?

43:12 Guest You know, I do get some prison mail, but I don't think the Hugs poem was from prison.

43:16 Adam And what did...

43:18 Guest Just a little sweet little poem about Hugs, Adam.

43:21 Drew When you get the prison mail, are there elaborate pictures with it?

43:24 Guest You know, the most eloquent, most well-written, with the best handwriting, piece of fan mail I've gotten was from prison. Right. Well, the calligraphy...

43:32 Adam It's written in Old English.

43:34 Guest No, actually, the smartest, most articulate letter I got was from prison.

43:37 Drew Mr. Hannibal.

43:39 Guest Probably. I thought this is just some white-collar crime, this guy.

43:42 Adam Dave? You're a twenty, thirty, what's up?

43:49 Caller Well, I'm a recovering heroin addict. And I pretty much lost all the veins in my arms in any place I could find them.

43:55 Drew How long into recovery are you?

43:57 Caller I've been in recovery for about a year and a half.

43:59 Drew Good for you.

43:59 Caller Great. But anyhow, toward the end, like trying to find a place to shoot, I was shooting in my dork, as Adam would say.

44:07 Drew Hang on a second, hang on a second.

44:08 Adam Shooting up in your penis.

44:10 Drew Yeah. Which is a common thing, believe it or not.

44:12 Adam Really?

44:12 Drew Yeah, there's a big dorsal vein, and these guys use that like crazy.

44:16 Caller And it's like real hard now, and I can't, it becomes actually painful.

44:20 Drew Well, it's done. It's clotted off, like your other veins are clotted off, right?

44:25 Caller Right, but they don't bother me too much in my arms. I mean, they're hard, but it's not like they bother me there.

44:30 Adam Is that scar tissue?

44:31 Drew It becomes calcified scars, yeah, sure.

44:33 Caller Is it permanent?

44:34 Drew Is there any reversal?

44:34 Caller I went to see a urologist, and he gave me this stuff, a tabo or something. You take eight of them a day, and it didn't really do anything.

44:42 Drew Let's try to soften the blood vessels up to get through there. I don't think that's such a great idea. They actually can sometimes remove these clots, believe it or not, if it really bothers you. Otherwise, if you can get by, just use, believe it or not, hot compresses, hot towels.

44:56 Adam What's that do?

44:57 Drew It just decreases the phlebitis, the inflammation.

44:59 Adam Hey Dave, does your penis work?

45:02 Caller Yeah, everything works, but especially when you get an erection, it's really painful.

45:06 Drew Really? That's awful.

45:08 Caller Which is a bummer.

45:09 Adam Right. Well, you can only shoot so much dope into your dork, before it doesn't cooperate. I mean, you figure there's going to be some repercussions to that.

45:17 Guest That's the nth degree of desperation.

45:19 Caller At the time, who cares?

45:21 Drew They inject in here, under here. They'll go wherever the vein is.

45:25 Adam You're doing OK now, Dave?

45:27 Caller Yeah, I mean, I've played around in recovery for a while, but I've really gotten serious with it. I feel better than I ever have in my life now. Great.

45:34 Drew Good answer.

45:34 Caller I'm just dealing with all the stuff that I've done to myself.

45:37 Drew Well, that's all the consequence of your disease, the wreckage of your past. Maybe these reminders help you sustain your sobriety, just to be thankful for everything right now. Maybe go back and try a different urologist. Again, I've seen people have these things actually removed, so I'm sure that could be done.

45:53 Adam All right, Dave. Thanks a lot, guys. Bye-bye. Don't turn into one of those real self-righteous guys who freaks out when I have two pieces of rum cake at dinner because you got six years sobriety under your belt.

46:06 Guest They're called book thumpers.

46:08 Adam Oh, is that what they are?

46:08 Guest Book thumpers.

46:09 Drew That's the sign.

46:10 Caller Okay.

46:10 Adam I wasn't shooting up my dork. Come on.

46:13 Drew But doesn't dork injection give you some sort of privilege to be able to be a book thumper?

46:17 Caller You can withstand that kind of pain, I'm imagining.

46:19 Guest But then I also think it's pretty ridiculous of those not in recovery for us to sort of sit around and praise them as if we have, oh, I can't say that, what it's like to be them. What it's like to go through that. Sorry.

46:32 Adam All right, baby. You're very passionate about this issue. Well, come on.

46:36 Guest It's like, oh, good for you. As if we have any idea what that's like. I can tell you that quitting smoking was, I just wanted to kill myself every day.

46:43 Guest Can you imagine what getting over that must be like?

46:45 Caller I mean, that's what empathy is about. I mean, I think all of us in the room probably know somebody in some program or with someone addicted to something or has been or working on not being.

46:54 Drew I run a program and it is an incredibly painful process for people.

47:00 Adam Monica?

47:01 Yeah.

47:01 Adam You're 16. What's up?

47:03 Caller I was listening, I think it was last week, and a girl had called up and she had had oral sex but had not orgasmed. You would ask her if she had had sex and she said no, and so you said that was very common. I have had both intercourse and regular, and excuse me, oral sex, and I have not orgasmed at either. I was wondering if it was a little abnormal.

47:31 Drew How about when you masturbate? Huh? How about when you masturbate?

47:34 Caller When I masturbate, I do have orgasms.

47:37 Drew So you're actually ahead of your peers? Because most 16-year-olds can't have it no matter what. They can't quite figure it out. Not all. Yeah. Around 18, they sort of start getting it figured out.

47:48 Adam Well, I think the guys start figuring it out, too.

47:51 Drew How to help them. Yeah. Yeah.

47:53 Adam I mean, they don't drive the vagina very well.

47:57 Drew They just got their learner's permit. There is no break-in or training period for the male. With the orgasms? Yeah. The male hits the ground running. Pow. With women, it takes a while for it to sort of figure itself out.

48:07 Adam Right.

48:08 Caller Okay, good.

48:10 Adam You're right.

48:10 Drew You're a little ahead of the curve, maybe.

48:12 Adam It works. It's hooked up, right?

48:14 Caller I hope so, yeah.

48:15 Adam Well, you're having the orgasm, right?

48:17 Caller Yes.

48:18 Adam And when you masturbate, is that a water-related sport?

48:23 Caller No, not really.

48:25 Adam I see.

48:26 Caller Yeah.

48:26 Adam Okay, not really.

48:27 Caller A little shot in the dark there. Yeah.

48:29 Adam All right. That's good. No, see, sometimes women say, well, I can have an orgasm when I masturbate. And I think, all right, well, if you can have one from sort of diddling yourself, you can have a guy work it out for you, too. And then they tell you they got to they lie under the log jammer, magic mountain, have a flume go up on them. And I go, all right, well, now a guy can't do that.

48:48 Caller The right equipment, I suppose.

48:50 Adam Yeah, I guess if a guy drove one of those tanker trucks or something, but when I'm saying, realistically, ladies, it's great when you have the orgasm in the tub and everything. But if that's the way you get used to it, don't you know, unless you're dating Aquaman, it ain't going to it ain't going to happen. You know what I mean?

49:08 Guest Size of a waterfall.

49:09 Caller Yeah.

49:11 Adam All right. By the way, communicating with fish was never like, I never thought of that even at like eight and nine. I thought that's no good superhero trait. You know what I mean? Superman.

49:22 Guest Like what was he going to do with it?

49:23 Adam Spider-Man. Yeah, I can talk to a school of a yellow finned tuna. That's great. Next.

49:30 Drew But the whales and the dolphins.

49:31 Adam Yeah, that'll save the planet.

49:32 Drew Those are the only non-fish that he communicates with.

49:34 Adam That'll save the planet. You get that starfish to do something.

49:37 Caller I always want to be a plastic man.

49:39 Adam All right. We will take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Bryan. He wants to... Oh, yeah. He wants to ask Katherine about her husband, who is none other than French Stewart, after this.

49:55 Caller Loveline will be right back.

50:13 Caller Beep. Beep.

50:36 Adam Hey, Loveline. I'm Adam Perot. It's Dr. Drew. Katherine LaNasa is our guest tonight with David Alan Basche, both from Three Sisters, NBC, Tuesday nights, 9.30. And of course, there's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. When we left off, we're going to talk to Brian, who has a question for Katherine about her husband, who's a French Stewart.

51:04 Guest Oh my God. Hello.

51:05 Adam Hi, Brian.

51:05 Guest Hey. Oh, jeez. Am I on the radio now?

51:08 Adam Yes, you is.

51:09 Guest Oh, jeez. How great. Anyway, I had a question for Katherine about her husband, but then I also had a question for both of them about the show. Okay. All right. Okay. Anyways, I wanted to know, is French Stewart like as crazy and, like, I don't want to say just goofy, like he is on a third rock, but, you know, like...

51:26 Guest You know, he's pretty damn goofy.

51:28 Guest Is he?

51:28 Guest Yeah. He's woken me up on a few occasions dancing the hamster dance.

51:34 Adam Oh.

51:35 Guest It's true.

51:35 Adam Trying to get it out of his ass? Is that a euphemism or is it a different dance?

51:39 Guest No. My son wakes up to a radio Disney and it's gone up to the hamster dance more than once, and French has actually started dancing to it. So, seen as I'm the grouchiest person in the world in the morning, I appreciate being married to him. He's pretty funny.

51:53 Drew He's like one of the nicest people in the show, but... He is a very...

51:55 Adam He sure is.

51:56 Guest It's awful being married to him. He is actually unbelievably sickeningly nice and friendly, and everybody likes him better than me.

52:06 Adam Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, sure. Which French door?

52:12 Guest Yeah. But I've got a better ass.

52:13 That's right.

52:15 Adam Yeah.

52:16 Guest All right. Yeah. Okay.

52:18 Adam Yes?

52:19 Guest And I wanted to say that I really, really, really like the show. I seriously can't say enough about it. I mean, I watched Frasier and it just kind of snuck up on me, and I think it's really crisp. I like it a lot. Oh, good.

52:31 Caller Yeah.

52:31 Guest Also, for David and Katherine jointly, are your buttholes as big as Mesa?

52:39 Caller I don't really want to hear the end of that.

52:42 Drew They don't understand. I'd want to know too. Bryan, you still there?

52:44 Guest Yeah.

52:44 Drew Okay, good. I like you hanging in with us for that one.

52:47 Guest Well, yeah. I mean, also-

52:49 Caller That's courageous.

52:50 Guest As big as what?

52:51 Drew We'll tell you.

52:51 Caller I'll explain it to you.

52:53 Guest Okay.

52:54 Adam No, no, no.

52:54 Guest Here's the thing.

52:55 Adam No, no.

52:56 Guest All right.

52:57 Adam Hey, Bryan. Yeah. We got to go, right?

52:59 Guest Really? All right.

53:00 Adam Yeah. Come on.

53:01 Guest I know.

53:01 Adam All right. But thanks.

53:03 Guest All right. Good time. Good job.

53:06 Drew We had a guy some years ago, four years ago.

53:09 Guest I don't know.

53:09 Drew That would tell us these elaborate stories. In the end, he would describe this girl that was involved in these awful traumas as the most distinguishing part of her, that her butthole, what did he say? The anus was the size of a mason jar.

53:22 Guest Yeah.

53:22 Drew That was the punchline. He would drag us in these long stories. We would be, yeah, great. Then pow, we would get that. Finally, I could recognize his voice when he called me. The second he would open his mouth, now other listeners have picked up the torch. They are carrying the torch.

53:38 Guest David's is still. It's fine that he would ask that.

53:40 Adam I still think he enjoyed the show though.

53:43 Caller I was just glad that he's watching the damn show. We'll take the ratings.

53:46 Guest Yeah.

53:46 Adam He said it was Crisp.

53:47 Guest We'll take anybody.

53:49 Caller Crisp. That's right. He said Crisp.

53:51 Adam Yeah. Crisp writing.

53:53 Caller Hi.

53:53 Adam Hey, you're 23.

53:56 Guest Yeah.

53:56 Caller Hey, Drew. Hey, Adam, Katherine and David.

53:59 Guest Hello.

53:59 Caller I have a question.

54:02 Guest All right.

54:02 Caller It's about my girlfriend, actually.

54:05 Caller She's extremely tight.

54:09 Guest Lucky you.

54:10 Caller No, no, no.

54:11 Caller Not good because it hurts her.

54:12 Drew So it's pain when you try to penetrate.

54:14 Caller Yeah.

54:14 Drew Have you ever been able to penetrate?

54:17 Caller It hurts at first.

54:19 Drew The answer to that is in the words.

54:20 Caller Kind of.

54:21 Drew Loosens up a little bit.

54:22 Caller Yeah, but as soon as she orgasms, it's tightened up again. Yeah, well. Yeah.

54:28 Guest How old is she?

54:29 Caller Twenty-one. Uh-huh.

54:31 Drew Is she okay?

54:33 Caller Uh, yeah, normally.

54:35 Drew Does she have an emotional problem? She doesn't feel bad about having sex?

54:38 Caller No, not at all.

54:39 Adam She, but she has the orgasm via intercourse, right?

54:43 Caller Uh, intercourse or orally, yeah.

54:47 Drew Okay, so she's functioning extra-normally.

54:49 Adam How long, how long does it take her to have orgasm through intercourse?

54:53 Caller Like, uh, ten, fifteen minutes.

54:55 Adam Yeah, not bad.

54:56 Caller There you go.

54:57 Caller All right. It hurts.

54:58 Caller It's actually the lower part of the opening is where it hurts a lot.

55:03 Drew And that's just at the beginning. It doesn't get, come back again later in the action.

55:06 Caller Actually, it comes back if we try doing it again after she orgasms.

55:10 Caller Okay.

55:11 Drew And nothing, no irritation there or anything. No, you know, sometimes it can get a little sort of cracking and splitting.

55:16 Adam Oh, like a vinyl top?

55:19 Caller At all.

55:20 Drew Is there, is there an anatomic problem here? Are you guys don't fit right? You know what I'm saying?

55:24 Adam You a big guy, Dee?

55:27 Caller I don't like bragging, but I'm about a little above average.

55:30 Drew Okay. So it's not so, it's not like that's a big issue. No. Okay. There is, there is some, there is spasm of the muscles, the pelvic floor that can occur from anxiety. And sometimes that is something called vaginismus. But vaginismus can also be a sort of a spinal reflex that has to be deconditioned.

55:47 Adam Yeah.

55:47 Drew She may really have that because it doesn't sound like she's uptight about things. It just, she has this automatic response that she gets.

55:53 Adam Are you using condoms?

55:55 Caller No.

55:55 Adam No.

55:56 Drew Using lubricants?

55:57 Caller Most of the time. Yeah, we have to.

55:59 Drew Sorry.

55:59 Caller How come you're not using condoms?

56:01 Caller Because we're going to be engaged and we kind of only been with each other.

56:06 Adam All right. What about her getting pregnant?

56:08 Caller Yeah.

56:09 Caller She's been on the pill.

56:10 Drew She had a pelvic exam recently?

56:13 Caller Actually, I think she just went for her pap smear thing.

56:15 Drew Everything's okay?

56:16 Caller Yeah.

56:16 Guest Everything's working normally.

56:18 Drew So this is going to be one of those things you guys are going to have to work with.

56:20 Caller Another thing is, like, she doesn't get wet.

56:24 Drew All right. So that could be...

56:25 Caller It's not on the outside.

56:27 Adam Yeah.

56:27 Drew That could be a bigger issue.

56:28 Adam Who does get wet on the outside? They do.

56:31 Drew Well, I mean, it has to...

56:32 Adam It's wet, right?

56:33 Caller No, it's like bone dry.

56:35 Adam Yeah, all right.

56:36 Caller That's why we've been using, like, KY liquid.

56:38 Drew Because she's cranked down, can't get on the outside.

56:40 Adam All right. I don't know. I was thinking about every guy's got to be a goddamned kind of ecologist these days, you know? I mean, we really do.

56:49 Drew Amateur, yes.

56:50 Adam And we all have to dabble.

56:51 Caller As they say, Adam, we've all got our fingers in the pot.

56:56 Adam There was just a time, and I don't know, maybe it was a better time. I think it was better. Where, you know, that was a mystery. There's a mystery, woman's business between her and her doctor. I don't know. I'm old fashioned that way. I just like that.

57:08 Caller I think automatic, I think, Oh, yes.

57:11 Adam Oh, yeah.

57:12 Caller Automatic Vaginismus, by the way, Automatic Vaginismus. That's the next band name.

57:16 Adam Yeah. So we have now.

57:18 Caller I ate that for dinner last night.

57:20 Adam Passful of AIDS. Tri-anal Rape. What was the other one?

57:24 Drew Able, Anal Threesome or something like that.

57:26 Adam Anal Threesome or, yeah. I can't figure out the other bands.

57:29 Drew But I think guys are fundamentally freaked out by that part of Women's Anatomy. I think that's like a primitive response that men have to that. It freaks them out.

57:38 Adam Yeah. Well, we worship it, but it's like the volcano god. We worship it, but we're frightened of it too. Ungawa. It's like, Oh, it's good. It's erupting.

57:48 Guest Run.

57:49 Adam The volcano is taking the village.

57:51 Caller Oh, my God.

57:53 Adam Yes. Oh, my God.

57:54 Guest It's all tied in, isn't it?

57:55 Drew It's all hot lava.

57:56 Guest Yeah. It's like all kinds of ego and everything else tied in there.

57:59 Drew No, no, no. I think something very primitive. I think guys just, it's like spooky.

58:03 Guest No, but I mean, like, I think if guys can get women to different places sexually, I think that means a lot to them.

58:09 Drew It does mean a lot to them, but that's-

58:10 Guest So it's something to be gained from mastering it.

58:13 Drew But that's on a much more sort of mature level, believe it or not. On a primitive level, they're scared of it. They literally fear they're going to get sucked back in, that it's something mysterious. Oh, yes.

58:22 Guest Something in the id, goes way, way back.

58:25 Caller We also don't have one. I mean, it's like-

58:26 Drew Very scary, very primitive kinds of reactions they have to it. And I think that's where men fundamentally try to control female sexuality, because the whole thing is sort of scary and out of control to them.

58:36 Adam Yeah, good times.

58:38 Guest Good times.

58:39 Adam Katie?

58:40 Guest Hear a spaz with that saying.

58:41 Adam You're 16. What's up? That's my way I smoothly transition into the column.

58:47 Guest Good job. Of course, I'm going to say that now all month.

58:51 Adam Katie?

58:52 Guest Adam, I love you.

58:54 Adam Thank you.

58:54 Guest The man show rocks and you're so hot and all that stuff.

58:56 Adam Yeah, Katie. Good times.

58:58 Guest And Drew, you're like a genius.

59:00 Drew All right, Katie, what's up?

59:01 Guest Okay. So I got my nipples pierced in November, and they were fine for a really long time, but now just recently, like one.

59:09 Adam They have a cold weather discount over the piercing place. They don't have to coax the nipple out.

59:13 Caller It's a two for one special.

59:16 Guest How is that? How is that? Is it pleasurable?

59:20 Guest Oh, God, yes.

59:20 Guest Really?

59:21 Guest Yeah. They're so exosensitive, like I can rub into something and it's just like, ooh. But recently, like one, it's like starting like two days ago, it was like bleeding and like pussing.

59:33 Drew Lovely.

59:33 Guest And it hurts a lot.

59:35 Drew Take it out.

59:36 Guest What?

59:36 Drew You got to get it out.

59:37 Guest See, the thing is, like, I can't really take it out myself because it's like a hoop with like a ball in it and I can't, like.

59:43 Drew Then you got to go back to the piercing place and get it done.

59:45 Guest I didn't get it done in the piercing place because I'm only sixteen.

59:49 Caller Who did it?

59:50 Guest Oh, what? Who did it?

59:52 Adam A drifter.

59:52 Caller A friend?

59:53 Guest No, it's this guy, but he's kind of scary and I don't want to go back to him again.

59:57 Drew Katie, this, you know, you can get a very serious infection from this. Very serious. You may need an antibiotic.

1:00:03 Caller Maybe you ought to go see your doctor.

1:00:05 Drew Well, just listen, you can get the flesh-eating bacteria, you can get all kinds of good stuff this way.

1:00:09 Adam You just let some weirdo dude do this?

1:00:12 Guest Yeah, well, I kind of knew him, but...

1:00:14 Drew Yes, the answer is yes.

1:00:16 Caller Scary weirdo dude. And a white van parked out front.

1:00:20 Adam Mostly primers, to be fair. Katie, and what about, I mean, your sixteen-year-old girl is just pulling up your top and having this strange guy work on your breast that wasn't weird?

1:00:31 Oh, no, it was kind of weird.

1:00:32 Adam Yeah, but worth the pain, huh?

1:00:35 Guest Yeah, it hurt a lot, but it was worth it.

1:00:38 Yeah.

1:00:39 Drew Now it's infected, now it needs to come out. You need to do hot compresses on it starting tonight, and you're probably going to need some antibiotics, and know that it can go from that to something very serious, rather quickly.

1:00:50 Adam What else is going on there, Katie, in your life?

1:00:53 Guest What do you mean?

1:00:53 Adam It doesn't sound like it's going that great.

1:00:55 Guest Huh?

1:00:56 Adam It doesn't sound like it's going very well.

1:00:58 Guest Um, I don't know. I have a horrible relationship with my father, and shocking, and stuff like that.

1:01:03 Adam Shocking?

1:01:04 Drew Was he an alcoholic?

1:01:05 Guest Yeah.

1:01:06 Adam Okay, so you're doing a little acting out?

1:01:08 Guest Yeah, yeah.

1:01:09 Drew How about an alatine, maybe? Alatine might do more for you than anything else?

1:01:13 Adam Yeah.

1:01:14 Drew Check it out.

1:01:14 Adam Can you check out alatine? Huh? Check out alatine. Okay. Slow down a little, baby. Stop acting out so much, right?

1:01:21 Caller Okay.

1:01:22 Adam You don't want to ruin your permanent record, right?

1:01:24 Caller No.

1:01:25 Adam Okay.

1:01:25 Caller I hate it.

1:01:26 Adam Okay. Listen, everybody, you got a permanent record. You really do. I mean, you don't want to get hepatitis, you don't want to get AIDS, you don't want to get pregnant. Women, you don't want to have 150 guys you slept with before you get to your husband. You just slow it down a little bit. None of it goes away. You know what I mean?

1:01:47 Drew You know, lock yourself in your house like Adam does. Yeah.

1:01:49 Adam Wait for the grim reaper.

1:01:50 Drew That's right.

1:01:51 Adam Yeah. That's what I did. I got out of bed at 3.30 today.

1:01:54 Guest Oh, my gosh.

1:01:55 Adam I didn't move. I watched about 17 hours of TV today.

1:02:01 Caller Absolutely.

1:02:03 Adam I asked her out of bed twice.

1:02:04 Drew Oh.

1:02:05 Adam Big day.

1:02:05 Drew Good times.

1:02:06 Adam No, it didn't leave.

1:02:07 Caller It didn't leave.

1:02:08 Adam Did not leave. You understand? That's how I like it.

1:02:11 Drew I understand.

1:02:11 Adam I suggest you all do the same.

1:02:13 Guest One quick question though. Is it okay if the guys go in sleep with 150 girls before they get to their wives?

1:02:18 Drew No.

1:02:19 Adam Yeah, that's all right. That's okay.

1:02:21 Guest You know what? I have to say I've never understood that women seem to be attracted to guys that have these sort of reputations as being womanizers. I've never understood what was appealing about that. It always seemed kind of nasty to me.

1:02:33 Drew What was appealing is that lots of guys are that way, therefore a certain number of women had dads that were that way, and that's what's appealing to me.

1:02:39 Guest Well, it's like Warren Beatty was always considered so sexy partly because he had this reputation for having slept with all these women.

1:02:48 Drew A healthy woman would look at that and go, Yeah, it seemed kind of gross.

1:02:51 Guest I don't want something that's been everywhere.

1:02:53 Drew A healthy woman would say that, but a woman who has...

1:02:55 Guest But it has been everywhere. I don't want to know about it.

1:02:57 Adam Right.

1:02:58 Drew But... French did tell us a couple of things last time he was in here, but no.

1:03:02 Guest Well, I'm sure he had his fun.

1:03:07 Adam The reality is too, is there's the reason they've slept with a lot of women is because they put together some sort of package that's attractive to a large percentage of the women, whatever it is, whatever they got to wrap, they got a sports car, they got whatever they got, there's a reason why they have a high tally. I never did figure that one out myself. Steve?

1:03:28 Caller Yeah.

1:03:29 Adam You're twenty. I am. What's up?

1:03:31 Caller Well, a couple of questions, actually. One, after a prolonged sexual encounter with my girlfriend or whatever, it starts to feel like I'm shooting blanks.

1:03:40 Drew What does that mean?

1:03:41 Caller Well, like, it doesn't, here's another thing. After an orgasm or whatever, it doesn't go down.

1:03:48 Drew Oh, it doesn't?

1:03:49 Caller I mean, I know Adam's going to say that, oh, all right, but it's not that great of a deal.

1:03:53 Guest Well, how long?

1:03:54 Guest Well, I'll say it. Good times.

1:03:56 Caller Yeah. I like that.

1:03:58 Drew How many times? If you ejaculate again, does it?

1:04:00 Caller Yeah. No, I mean, you can, it doesn't go down as long as I'm doing anything.

1:04:04 Drew How many times can you, are you good for?

1:04:07 Caller Six, eight hours.

1:04:09 Adam Six, eight hours?

1:04:10 Drew You want any medication?

1:04:11 Caller No, but no, it's always been that way.

1:04:15 Drew No, but what?

1:04:16 Caller But, what was the but?

1:04:19 Caller No, it's just, it's always been that way.

1:04:20 Drew Adam, you want any medication?

1:04:22 Adam No, no. And what about that container of liver you've been humping for eight hours?

1:04:31 Caller No, I don't. No, really?

1:04:32 Adam Is there a woman you can hump for eight hours? Yeah. They don't take shifts? Well, no. One woman?

1:04:38 Caller One girlfriend, so.

1:04:39 Adam I see. All right, so he has that prolonged erection that won't go away.

1:04:45 Caller Well, right, but I mean like after a couple of orgasms, you know, it starts to feel like I'm shooting blanks.

1:04:50 Drew What do you mean? You mean no fluid comes out?

1:04:52 Caller I don't know.

1:04:53 Drew Well, probably no fluid comes out. Yeah.

1:04:56 Adam Nothing in you.

1:04:56 Guest Are you continuing to orgasm yourself?

1:05:00 Caller Yeah.

1:05:02 Adam You have the sensation of it.

1:05:04 Guest So you just don't feel like anything's coming out?

1:05:06 Drew It's not coming out. Nothing's being produced.

1:05:08 Caller Right.

1:05:09 Drew You don't give everybody enough time to produce it.

1:05:11 Adam Yeah. Listen, what do you think? Your sack is hooked up to some sort of large reservoir somewhere?

1:05:16 Guest Hey, we're talking about French here. He's all hooked up. Really? Oh, yeah.

1:05:25 Adam Really? Endless, endless amount of semen in that flask?

1:05:28 Guest He's the manliest man ever.

1:05:29 Adam Really?

1:05:29 Guest Oh, yeah.

1:05:30 Drew You gotta start doing that hamster dance, Adam. That's the secret.

1:05:34 Guest How do you think he gets all that semen?

1:05:35 Adam Is that what does it?

1:05:37 Guest Oh, yeah.

1:05:38 Adam French does the hamster dance and he produces an ungodly amount of semen? That's great.

1:05:44 Drew The decorator.

1:05:46 Guest I'm getting divorced tomorrow.

1:05:49 Drew That just means she speaks the truth.

1:05:51 Adam French, huh?

1:05:51 Drew He's embarrassed.

1:05:53 Adam Nice.

1:05:54 Drew I might call him ranch, but...

1:05:56 Adam Yeah, we're going French. All right. Well, that's... That'd be nice in the bio. He's always talking about... You read a guy's bio, it's like, well, here's where we went to college, and here's what his folks did.

1:06:09 Drew Here's what his wife says about him.

1:06:10 Adam How about the endless amount of semen that comes out of his back? How about that? That ought to be a storyline on third rock.

1:06:18 Guest I didn't really say that.

1:06:19 Drew Well, he's not... He's an alien, so...

1:06:22 Adam Oh, I see. That's right. Yeah. Kristen?

1:06:25 Caller Yes.

1:06:25 Adam You're 20.

1:06:26 Caller That's right.

1:06:27 Adam What's up?

1:06:27 Caller Oh, goodness. Well, first of all, I'm not a bad person. I'm not promiscuous at all, but I've been in a couple relationships, and I always cheat on my boyfriend. It doesn't mean sex, but.

1:06:42 Drew Cheat in such a way as to ruin the relationship?

1:06:44 Caller Well, it always ends up that way.

1:06:46 Drew Yeah, magical.

1:06:47 Caller I can't lie.

1:06:48 Adam Oh, yeah. You can't lie. You sabotage the relationship, and then you tell the guy, and then of course he freaks out. Now you're out, and you've avoided your intimacy successfully. Yeah.

1:07:00 Caller Well, okay. The reason I'm calling, I'm in a relationship now. I really don't know what I expect to hear from you guys, but I really don't want to mess this up, and it just seems like this pattern, I don't know. I mean, it's easy to say, well, yeah.

1:07:15 Drew Do you have, before you started finding these nice guys that you sabotaged the relationships with, were you dating guys who were sort of jerks to you?

1:07:23 Caller Um, I have a tendency to go for the jerks.

1:07:25 Drew Yeah. Now these guys aren't jerks though that you're cheating on, right?

1:07:29 Caller Sorry, what?

1:07:30 Drew The ones you're cheating on aren't the jerks, is that right?

1:07:33 Caller Well, yeah, actually, yeah.

1:07:37 Adam Wait a minute, Drew, you can have, I know what you're going for here, which is the jerks she's attracted to, so then she, but then she says no more jerks, so she hooks up with a nice, quote unquote nice guy, but there's not enough excitement, there's not enough stimulation, there's not enough chaos, so she's going to stir it up and break up with the guy.

1:07:56 Drew And go, and probably cheat with a jerk.

1:07:58 Adam Yes, but if you're into chaos, you'll stir it up with the jerk too.

1:08:02 Drew That's right, that's true.

1:08:03 Adam So you'll cheat with the jerk as well. So Kristen, you're freaked out about the whole intimacy thing, right?

1:08:11 Caller I guess.

1:08:11 Adam Where's your dad? Where'd he go?

1:08:15 Caller He is outliving his own life, actually, I know you probably hear this every day, but him not being in my life is a good thing, he's very destructive and...

1:08:25 Drew Yeah, right, we understand that, but you're making a life's career out of finding your dad again.

1:08:31 Caller That's kind of creepy.

1:08:32 Adam Yeah, did your dad cheat on your mom or is he an alcoholic?

1:08:37 Caller Both, yeah, I mean, raising an alcoholic.

1:08:40 Drew You're hell-bent on finding that guy again and when you're not with him, you screw it up.

1:08:45 Adam That's a nice little tip of the hat to the alcoholic abusive dad.

1:08:48 Drew Yeah, thank you, those dads. Kristen, get some therapy, please. Please, you gotta go to Al-Anon, that's something you could do. You gotta get a sponsor, work the program. That'll serve a similar function.

1:08:59 Caller Well, yeah, I don't want to tie you guys up too long, but I did go to a therapist.

1:09:02 Drew For how many years?

1:09:03 Caller Oh, it lasted about three months, because she was awful.

1:09:07 Adam All right, well, find a new one.

1:09:10 Drew Three months is not adequate.

1:09:11 Adam Yeah, and listen, therapists don't do anything anyway. They just sit there and say, uh-huh, and how did that make you feel? And you go, I was angry. And how did that make you feel? Well, I went to kill a guy. And then what did you feel? That's all they do.

1:09:23 Drew And what's that? What's that?

1:09:24 Adam What's that? Where?

1:09:24 Drew What's that feeling?

1:09:25 Adam Right there?

1:09:25 Drew Yeah.

1:09:26 Adam That's anger. All right. That cost me 90 bucks. Hey, Kristen? Yeah. Listen, they ain't a fender shop. You understand? It's a long, slow, expensive process that's worth it. And it's not really that, I mean, good therapists are better and bad therapists, but anyone will do in a storm. And that's what your life is right now. All right?

1:09:49 Caller Okay.

1:09:49 Drew If they're tough on you, you may need that.

1:09:52 Caller Sometimes, yeah.

1:09:53 Adam Uh, Jen?

1:09:54 Caller Hey.

1:09:56 Caller Oh, man, I was going to trick you guys.

1:09:57 Caller I was going to pretend I was snoring.

1:09:59 Adam All right. Well, thanks, Jen. You're 19. You're just going to screw with us, okay?

1:10:04 Drew That was it?

1:10:05 Adam Yeah. Yeah, we'll let you go.

1:10:06 Drew You have no question?

1:10:08 Caller No, I don't have a question.

1:10:09 Adam See you later.

1:10:09 Drew No, I don't have a question?

1:10:10 Caller No, I do.

1:10:11 Drew You do? Okay.

1:10:11 Adam I thought she said don't.

1:10:12 Guest She was going to snore.

1:10:14 Caller I was going to snore.

1:10:16 Adam What's up there, Jen?

1:10:17 Caller I thought it was funny.

1:10:19 Guest It went over big. Good times.

1:10:22 Caller I am planning on getting liposuction.

1:10:26 Guest Yeah.

1:10:26 Guest And I don't... Is it...

1:10:29 Caller I don't understand what happens. Okay, they take out the fat, but does it grow back there?

1:10:35 Drew No.

1:10:36 Guest It will never grow back.

1:10:37 Caller Do you know what they do?

1:10:37 Drew The cells are gone.

1:10:38 Caller They know what they do. It's basically... And you're done.

1:10:43 Adam Stop making that noise.

1:10:44 Drew So there's different ways to do it. One is they can liquefy the cells with ultrasound. Then they suck it out.

1:10:49 Caller Why is she...

1:10:50 Adam Why do you...

1:10:51 Drew When you're 19, is it...

1:10:52 Caller Why do you want to do this?

1:10:53 Caller Because I want to.

1:10:54 Caller You know this is a surgical procedure, right?

1:10:57 Caller Yeah.

1:10:57 Adam Well, what's...

1:10:58 Guest You don't have to get...

1:11:00 Adam What do you got? Well, listen, that's easy, skinny, for you to say. This girl may have a big spare tire around her waist.

1:11:07 Caller No, actually, I'm not fat at all.

1:11:10 Caller I'm actually pretty thin.

1:11:11 Caller I'm like 5'5, 120 pounds.

1:11:13 Caller Do you have an eating disorder?

1:11:15 Caller No, I don't.

1:11:16 Caller It's just that I work out so much. I'm on a track team and I go to the gym every single day and I work out like crazy and I cannot seem to get rid of what I want to get rid of.

1:11:25 Caller What do you want?

1:11:26 Guest Just what?

1:11:26 Guest Like, I mean, just like a little...

1:11:29 Caller Like my inner thighs touch in the middle. I mean, not big time, but just a little bit. And it bugs the crap out of me. When I wear shorts, I have to like keep pointing my shorts down. You know what I mean?

1:11:38 Caller How often do you... So you work out every day?

1:11:40 Caller Yeah, every day.

1:11:41 Caller How many hours a day?

1:11:43 Caller Well, I have track practice for three hours, and then I go to the gym for like two.

1:11:46 Caller What do you eat? Are you... Sounds like an addiction to me. What do you eat?

1:11:49 Drew A little bulimic.

1:11:50 Caller I don't...

1:11:51 Guest I totally eat like...

1:11:53 Caller I eat healthy, but I eat a lot. I never, ever starve myself ever. Anything like that.

1:11:58 Drew You work out five hours a day.

1:12:00 Caller Yeah, I mean, it sounds to me like that's an addiction to exercise.

1:12:03 Adam You seem kind of obsessed with your body.

1:12:05 Guest Yeah.

1:12:06 Adam I mean, most women are, but a lot of guys are, too, but you seem to really be particularly... have a lot of energy with it.

1:12:14 Guest The thing with that is that it's never... you're not going to feel okay once you get rid of that fat in the middle of your thighs. It'll be something else. Your nose or your this or your that or the back of your arms. You know, at a certain point, I think women have to...

1:12:27 Adam You should get all that done. Is that what you're saying? Oh, stop it. I agree with Katherine, by the way.

1:12:31 Guest I think at a certain point, you get happy with yourself.

1:12:33 Adam Right.

1:12:34 Guest You have to get okay with yourself. Don't go mutilating yourself. It sounds like, you know, you probably look great if you're exercising three hours a day.

1:12:41 Adam Yeah. Hey, Jen.

1:12:42 Caller Yeah.

1:12:43 Adam When you give it a little time, when you're 19.

1:12:45 Guest Yeah.

1:12:45 Caller I have another question. Well, it's the same question but different. How much is, like, if you do, can you do like a lot at one time?

1:12:55 Caller Like, or should you take it like step by step?

1:12:58 Drew You need to talk to somebody who does a lot of these.

1:12:59 Adam A lot of lipo?

1:13:01 Drew Yeah. There are some people that do, it's more of a research thing now where they do large amounts by ultrasonographic liquefaction.

1:13:08 Adam How much lipo would she need if she's 5'5 and 110 lbs?

1:13:13 Drew Probably none, frankly.

1:13:14 Adam She is. Have you ever heard of someone who was skinny inner thighs rubbing together? There are parts missing from this story, but anyway. Alright, let's do our own form of lipo, which involves urine being substituted for fat.

1:13:32 Drew Let's go.

1:13:33 Adam That's our move. Alright, we'll be back after this.

1:13:36 Caller Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. I'm back in a minute.

1:14:07 Adam Yep, Loveline from Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. David Alan Basche is banging his head from Three Sisters. Catherine Lanasa is also here from the same show. That's what we got to do. We got to wake the kids up. NBC, Tuesdays, 930. And let's hope kids listen to the radio.

1:14:28 Caller They respect the radio.

1:14:30 Adam That's really Paris film to turn the TV off after like 10 o'clock. Esther.

1:14:35 Guest Hello.

1:14:35 Adam Hello.

1:14:37 Guest Well, my question is, I've been dating this guy for close to three years. For already eight months, we haven't had any sexual connection. So he says that he's been stressed, that there's a lot of, of his work actually.

1:14:55 Drew Esther, hang on one second. Doesn't she sound like some of the actors in Love and Death?

1:14:59 Guest Huh?

1:14:59 Adam In what she's talking about? No, I was getting, I was getting a more Latin kind of reaffirmed.

1:15:03 Drew Yeah, at first I got that too, but then I thought, oh my God, this sounds just like the-

1:15:07 Adam Where are you from, Esther?

1:15:08 Guest Argentina.

1:15:10 Adam Yeah, good call there, Drew.

1:15:11 Guest Yeah, that's my accent, huh?

1:15:13 Adam Yeah, it's becoming. I like it. And you've been with this guy. What's, where's this guy from?

1:15:18 Guest He's from Texas also.

1:15:20 Adam Yeah, he's not an Argentinian dude. These guys are passionate.

1:15:24 Guest He's American. I'm Latin.

1:15:25 Adam That's right. He's a fat, lazy American who doesn't want to have sex.

1:15:29 Guest Yeah.

1:15:29 Adam So you've been with him for three years. Three years. And you haven't had sex in eight months.

1:15:34 Guest In eight months because of his stress.

1:15:38 Adam His stress.

1:15:38 Drew What is his stress?

1:15:40 Guest Work. He's a workaholic.

1:15:42 Drew What is he doing for work?

1:15:45 Guest He does appraisals.

1:15:47 Drew Appraisals?

1:15:48 Adam Yeah.

1:15:49 Drew No, something missing.

1:15:51 Adam Something's up. And let me say this.

1:15:53 Drew I would say.

1:15:53 Adam Let me ask this.

1:15:54 Drew Drugs.

1:15:55 Adam Drew's a workaholic but also a very passionate, passionate, passionate man behind closed doors. Even sometimes with the door open, he's very passionate. And most guys who are workaholic are sort of lifeaholics.

1:16:08 Drew Right.

1:16:10 Adam They somehow, they work 70 hours a week and bang a few hookers. Or whatever it is. You know what I mean? They can't turn it off.

1:16:19 Guest That's what I do.

1:16:20 Adam Usually. Yeah, you put in 70 hours a week, bang a few male prostitutes.

1:16:24 Guest I didn't say male, but yeah.

1:16:25 Adam Oh, right.

1:16:25 Drew Hookers.

1:16:26 Adam Yeah.

1:16:26 Guest Sorry.

1:16:28 Guest Three Sisters, 9.30.

1:16:30 Guest Well, my thing is that actually he doesn't have any kind of energy, but he does have energy to masturbate.

1:16:38 Drew Yeah, Esti, you're missing something here. You're missing something big.

1:16:41 Guest I just can't get it.

1:16:42 Drew No, you're missing something big about him and your relationship.

1:16:46 Guest Like what?

1:16:46 Drew I don't know, but there's a giant piece of this puzzle missing. And either he's addicted to something, maybe sex, maybe speed, maybe things that make him not function sexually normally.

1:16:58 Guest There's no drugs in his life.

1:17:00 Adam Okay, well, listen, Esti. Okay, here's the deal. There's something majorly wrong here, and it really doesn't have that much to do with his career.

1:17:11 Drew Right.

1:17:11 Adam Okay? You understand that?

1:17:14 Drew Yeah.

1:17:14 Adam So, if you want to keep this relationship going and he wants to, you guys are going to have to really discuss this realistically and maybe get some counseling and do all that stuff. But don't talk about how many hours he's putting in at the office.

1:17:27 Drew Yeah, that is not it at all. No way. No way.

1:17:30 Caller All right.

1:17:31 Drew Because as you find out, he does masturbate, and that's, you know, it takes the same amount of energy.

1:17:35 Adam But he does that while he's on the cell phone driving to work, so let's be fair. He'll often masturbate while he's doing appraisals.

1:17:45 Caller Which explains all the tie-ups on the 404.

1:17:46 Adam Yeah. Listen, ladies, don't listen to your guy. If he ain't being intimate for, you know, long, long periods of time, something is up.

1:17:54 Drew Something is up, either medical or...

1:17:57 Adam Psychological...

1:17:57 Drew .psychological or drug and alcohol.

1:17:59 Adam Or he's just pulling out of the relationship. Well, that's just psychological. He's just closing down. Yeah.

1:18:02 Drew He's just not his way out.

1:18:04 Adam Jordan?

1:18:05 Drew Yes.

1:18:05 Adam You're 17.

1:18:06 Drew Yes.

1:18:06 Adam What's up?

1:18:08 Caller I have two questions for you, actually. About four years ago, my dad used to be a really bad alcoholic and really abusive towards my mom and my older sister. And ever since then, I've been really afraid of him. I can't even stay at home by myself with him.

1:18:27 Adam Has he stopped drinking?

1:18:27 Caller Is he sober now? You said four years ago.

1:18:29 Caller Yeah, he's sober now. He's been sober for four years.

1:18:31 Drew Have you talked to him about this?

1:18:33 Caller No. I'm scared of him. I can't talk to him about anything. Like, if my mom, I can't stay at the house by myself with him.

1:18:41 Drew Did he do something else to you?

1:18:43 Caller No. And like, that's weird because like two years ago, I was raped by a peer from school and like I have flashbacks sometimes and I have dreams about it. But when I have these flashbacks or dreams, I see my dad.

1:18:57 Drew Well, that's fascinating actually because your dad is sort of what set you up as a victim. And I bet you didn't even report these rapes or didn't do anything about them.

1:19:07 Caller No, I didn't.

1:19:07 Drew Yeah, because that's the victim role you're used to playing from your dad. And that doesn't mean your dad sexually abused you, but he set you up as a victim and these idiot victimizers picked up on that and took advantage of it.

1:19:20 Caller Okay.

1:19:20 Adam What'd he do to your mom and your sister?

1:19:22 Caller Oh, he would beat them. He would like emotionally abuse them, and tell them that they were little sluts, and he would just, like, I don't know, he would just abuse us all in some way, shape, and form that he could.

1:19:36 Adam All right. And what got him sober?

1:19:40 Caller He almost killed my mom one time, and my mom had threatened to leave him, and so they went to counseling classes together, and they both got sober together.

1:19:53 Drew Oh, she was drinking, too.

1:19:53 Adam Oh, boy.

1:19:54 Caller Yeah.

1:19:55 Adam Yeah, yeah. You got your hands full. Hey, it's another Al-Anon request tonight. Yeah. Jordan, you got to get into that Al-Anon.

1:20:03 Caller What is Al-Anon?

1:20:05 Drew It's an organization like AA for people involved with, close to, the addict or alcoholic. And it's a 12-step program, and it gives you the kinds of relationships and support that they now have to deal with their disease. Same thing for you to help you deal with the being involved with someone with this disease, and it really requires some very substantial internal change, dealing in a close intimate relationship with another person, trusting that person, and digging through a lot of these feelings that you had as a result of being in this relationship with your dad.

1:20:35 Caller See, I don't know if I want to trust him. I don't know...

1:20:37 Drew Jordan? I understand there's a lot of ambivalence about this, but if you want to do better in your relationships and feel better overall, you've got to do this.

1:20:46 Adam Not necessarily with your dad, but Alan on.

1:20:48 Drew Just Alan on.

1:20:49 Adam Yeah. I don't know if your dad deserves it, quite frankly. She's got a reason to be scared. Yeah. I just... Leave that alone for a while. Why don't you talk to your mom about it, but they both sound like a piece of work. I mean, how about you just work on getting out of the house?

1:21:03 Caller Yeah, I've tried. They won't like... I've left and they have tried everything under their power to get me back.

1:21:09 Adam Well, I mean, like when are you going to be 18?

1:21:11 Drew Go to college.

1:21:12 Caller I'll be 18 in April.

1:21:14 Adam All right. So then you can leave the house. Right. Can you go to college?

1:21:18 Caller Yeah, I can, but I don't want to leave my little sisters here because they're kind of going through the same things. And I don't want them to have to go through that.

1:21:27 Adam All right. Well, then have it out with your mom and see what's up with dad through your mom. I mean, they've been sober for a while. Go to Al-Anon. Everyone, go to Al-Anon. Even if your parents were straight arrows, go to Al-Anon. I mean, I hate everyone. I hate all these parents. I really do. You know, it always breaks your heart because you're like, get out of the house. And they're like, well, I got an eight-year-old sister who's left behind. You know, listen, listen, you screwball parents. How pathetic is it that your kids are looking after their siblings, you know, trying to protect?

1:22:01 Drew Protect them from you.

1:22:02 Adam From you? Please, would you have some goddamn pride out there? Stop it. Stop screwing with your kids, everybody. And what a legacy.

1:22:12 Guest What's wrong with people? Where's the guilt mechanism? I don't get it.

1:22:15 Adam Oh, they got screwed with and now they're screwing with.

1:22:17 Drew And we have a society, listen, we're living in a time when the predominant attitude of the society is do what you want, divorce is no big deal, your kids take care of themselves, they're resilient, it's total BS. Could not be further from the truth. That the kinds of belief systems.

1:22:35 Guest As a mother and as a woman, that's just something instinctual inside me that tells me that. It doesn't have much to do with mirroring the parenting that I had. So I always wonder what's off with people, that they don't feel something about what they're doing.

1:22:52 Adam Well they are off, but you didn't come from raging abusive alcoholics, or did you?

1:22:58 Drew Or if you did, what will happen is you'll have moments where that stuff gets through and your child will remember those moments and will have those kinds of calls. You know what I'm saying?

1:23:09 Guest Wait, what?

1:23:09 Drew That even though you're parenting 85-90% of the time is instinctual and appropriate and connected, you may still, 10 or 20% of the time, still have a break-through of the same stuff that was delivered to you by your parents.

1:23:21 Guest What I'm saying is, these callers, you know, just the parents that they have, I wonder what's... Just being a female, that maternal instinct is so strong, you know so strongly when you're off. I don't get it. I don't get it. Where's the malfunction? I have it really strongly. I have a huge guilt mechanism. If I don't feel like I'm spending enough time with my son or if I feel like I'm too angry or whatever it is.

1:23:48 Adam But you can say that about any... I mean there's a subpopulation in society that murders, that rapes, that abuses their children, that are pedophiles. You know what I mean? They're all missing that part.

1:24:04 Guest But it doesn't seem like this is a small subculture of people that are calling you.

1:24:08 Drew Tens of millions.

1:24:09 Adam No, no, but no, it is, it is.

1:24:11 Guest It's like when are people going to start talking about child abuse? It feels like that's still such a hidden issue. It's still such a secret issue. It's just such a secret issue.

1:24:19 Drew Every night we talk about this.

1:24:21 Adam Yeah, let's do an episode of Three Sisters about it. Good idea. We're doing our thing over here.

1:24:26 Drew I mean, it's all kinds of abuse. You see all the different kinds of abuse kids are going through and it all makes them a victim and then we go into a world where they're victimized over and over again.

1:24:34 Adam Right.

1:24:35 Drew And our solution is the morning after pill. That's the best solution we can come up with. Don't have kids that are not wanted. If you shouldn't be a parent, don't have kids.

1:24:42 Adam If you're going to be a real bad parent, let's not have kids. That's my quick solution. All right. We're going to take ourselves a break. We'll be back after this.

1:24:50 Caller Hello, this is your radio. Love Line will be...

1:25:27 Adam Hey, it's Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew over there. Tonight from Three Sisters, which is on NBC, Tuesday nights at 9.30. Katherine LaNasa, David Alan Basche are both here. Oh boy, we were just getting into a discussion during the break about the abuse and-

1:25:50 Guest Fun times.

1:25:51 Drew Good times.

1:25:51 Adam Light topics.

1:25:52 Guest Is that it? Good times. Is that Anna Gasthauer we're doing?

1:25:55 Adam Good times.

1:25:55 Guest Good times.

1:25:56 Adam All right. John?

1:25:58 Yes, hi.

1:25:59 Adam You're 16. What's up?

1:26:01 Caller Well, I have a question. Yeah. The tip, I'm not circumcised. So, but the actual tip has like these little tinsy-winsy bumps. I don't know. I don't know what it is.

1:26:16 Drew It's probably the pearly penile papula.

1:26:19 Caller Huh?

1:26:21 Caller Oh, John.

1:26:22 Adam Did you have to go turn your radio up in the middle of the conversation?

1:26:25 Caller I turned it off.

1:26:26 Guest All right.

1:26:27 Drew It's probably the pearly penile papules.

1:26:29 Caller Oh, there's another bandit.

1:26:30 Guest Yeah.

1:26:31 Caller Yeah, but I've been having it since like, I've noticed ever since.

1:26:37 Drew John, they're the pearly penile papules which are normal.

1:26:40 Caller It's normal.

1:26:41 Drew Yeah.

1:26:41 Adam You're okay. You're not sexually active, are you?

1:26:44 Caller Yes, I am.

1:26:45 Adam Really?

1:26:45 Caller Yeah.

1:26:46 Adam Who is holding still long enough for you to hump them?

1:26:50 Caller No.

1:26:51 Adam I pity the fool that lets John hump them.

1:26:54 Caller No, not that. Well, I don't look, I don't look 16.

1:26:59 Drew Are you, you've had intercourse? You have had intercourse?

1:27:04 Caller Yes.

1:27:05 Adam I see, John, I see he's one of those sort of behemoth, you know, man-child guys with the bad mustache.

1:27:12 Caller The bad mustache. Actually, no, I've never shaved my mustache before. Right, yeah.

1:27:15 Adam I see you with the teenage mustache that never been, that's what I'm picturing, yeah.

1:27:20 Caller No, I have, I have, yeah. No, actually, I get good compliments on that.

1:27:24 Drew Right, John.

1:27:24 Adam Oh, yeah.

1:27:25 Guest Very classy.

1:27:26 Caller Yeah, I'm Mexican, so yeah.

1:27:27 Drew John, did you have these bumps?

1:27:29 Adam Like Red Butler from Gone with the Wind, I'm sure.

1:27:31 Drew Did you have these bumps before you were sexually active?

1:27:34 Caller Yes. I've had them ever since. All right.

1:27:35 Drew All right. It's a pearly pattern.

1:27:36 Adam And John, what are you, what are you weighing in at?

1:27:38 Caller Me? What do I weigh? Yeah. I just weighed myself today, I weighed at 275.

1:27:44 Drew Yeah.

1:27:45 Adam See? All right. Remember I said man-child with that teenage mustache?

1:27:49 Caller Would these go away or?

1:27:51 Drew Yeah, probably not.

1:27:52 Adam All right. Well, whatever. Good times. Ladies like a little.

1:27:57 Caller No. Well, my girlfriend, she was kind of like, she, she, you know.

1:28:01 Drew Hi John. I'm just trying to imagine what these are and I suspect that the pearly penile papules but see a dermatologist or actually any doctor would be fine if you have some more concerns about it.

1:28:10 Adam That's ripped for her pleasure, as they say. Well, I really got a good, I really got a very vivid, very vivid picture of him.

1:28:18 Drew Baby Huey.

1:28:19 Adam Yeah. It's a Latino baby Huey. Baby Hildago. Penis, now I see the penis in there too. Shana 275, right? Shana?

1:28:32 Caller Yeah?

1:28:32 Adam You're 27, what's up?

1:28:34 Caller Okay, I am a grad student and I'm currently pursuing my degree for substance abuse counseling. And it seems like, actually it doesn't seem like that for the last three years, every man that I go out with eventually turns out to have some sort of an issue with alcohol or drugs. And I honestly meet these men in professional situations. You know, I...

1:29:02 Drew Yeah, but you understand what this is. You're studying it.

1:29:05 Caller Is that... because I really don't think that I realize that these people are having a problem with alcohol.

1:29:11 Drew Well, Shana, it's not a... these people may be a decade off from their disease ever activating. But alcoholics have a unique biology and a unique genetic makeup. And because you had a parent or somebody important in your life with that disease, even when the disease isn't active, your right brain, your subconscious, your emotional brain will tune in to those qualities and that gets turned into attraction. Those traumas in childhood become attractions in adulthood.

1:29:36 Caller Really? See, this is what my brother is telling me.

1:29:38 Drew Yes. You're studying the damn disease, Shana. Why don't you... Wait, you're studying the damn disease. Why aren't you understanding this?

1:29:44 Caller I don't know, because I really honestly feel like I would have no way of knowing this.

1:29:48 Drew Because it's not an intellectual conscious process. It is the right side of your brain. I would suggest you study attachment theory. I know Alan Shore, S-C-H-O-R-E over at UCLA. Give you a little insight into where attachment comes from and how those mechanisms work.

1:30:03 Adam There's also a movie you could rent called Jury Duty by Polly Shore. It's the same spelling, same spelling, Drew?

1:30:10 Drew I think Polly is S-H-H.

1:30:11 Guest I got hit on by Polly Shore last week.

1:30:13 Adam Oh, really?

1:30:13 Guest Yeah, he had dyed his hair white. He was hanging out on Sunset Plaza.

1:30:17 Caller I really just want to know how to stop this.

1:30:21 Adam How do you stop this? First off, was somebody in your family an alcoholic?

1:30:26 Drew Yeah.

1:30:26 Adam Yeah.

1:30:27 Caller I should interrupt with the tumultuous...

1:30:28 Drew Yeah. All right. An answer. Listen, recovering from the family history of alcoholism is not an intellectual process.

1:30:35 Caller No, I have done years of counseling to deal with this. And my parents are both recovered.

1:30:41 Drew Well, why didn't you...

1:30:42 Caller I've dealt with the issues with them. I've forgiven them for all of their indiscretions.

1:30:46 Drew What kind of therapy did you do?

1:30:48 Caller I did one-on-one counseling in high school and then in after years high school. I did about three years.

1:30:55 Drew Same therapist?

1:30:57 Caller No. After high school it was different therapists. When I was in high school, I was seeing a school counselor.

1:31:01 Drew Well, for whatever reason, this was not the substantial work you did and the work that has to be done is the work of Al-Anon Recovery. You've got to do your own 12-step program if you really want to stop this pattern. Now, individual therapy can work for this, but for whatever reason it did not in your case.

1:31:17 Adam Big Al-Anon night.

1:31:19 Drew Yeah, huge.

1:31:19 Adam You know, there's the very subtle traits that the alcoholic will give off to the other alcoholic, like the trail of vomit and the lampshade that they wear in their head. I mean, a layman could not pick it up, but a trained eye, like one of our eyes, we get right on it, right?

1:31:38 Drew Nice, very nice.

1:31:39 Adam Jennifer?

1:31:40 Guest Yeah?

1:31:40 Adam What's up?

1:31:43 Guest I have noticed that I am attracted, or like, I end up liking guys that are older than me and they end up being like, authoritative figures, like teachers or...

1:31:51 Adam Al-Anon!

1:31:53 Drew Good times.

1:31:54 Adam Good times.

1:31:55 Drew Does anybody ever respond to you when you sort of...

1:31:58 Guest No, because I don't, I never act on it.

1:32:01 Drew That's fine. It's normal, then.

1:32:03 Adam You're attracted to older guys not acting on it.

1:32:06 Guest But I was wondering, I was sexually abused when I was little.

1:32:10 Caller Oh boy.

1:32:11 Drew You were?

1:32:13 Adam And why don't you think, well, it's getting more normal. Have you, how come you haven't acted on any of this stuff?

1:32:21 Guest Because, I don't know, they're older and I didn't think, you know...

1:32:26 Drew She's not going to start until she's 17.

1:32:29 Adam I see. You know what I'm saying, Jennifer? I mean, have you ever got any counseling?

1:32:33 Guest Yeah. I've tried several different people and I just can't seem to find someone that I can really open up to.

1:32:40 Drew Well, magically you're not going to trust anyone. Okay, because of what's happened to you. And until you do, there's no way to get over this stuff.

1:32:47 Guest Am I going to be able to get over it with counseling?

1:32:50 Drew Yeah, you can. Sure. What happened to you?

1:32:54 Guest My brothers sexually abused me when I was 6 and then when I was 10.

1:33:00 Adam Your brothers?

1:33:01 Guest Yeah.

1:33:02 Adam So you have a couple of brothers? And how old are they now?

1:33:07 Guest 21 and 25. Oh boy.

1:33:10 Adam Do they have kids? What are they doing? Are they in jail?

1:33:14 Caller Where do they live so we can beat the crap out of them?

1:33:16 Guest They live by me. I see them all the time.

1:33:19 Adam Oh, good times. And what are they doing okay in their life?

1:33:25 Guest Well, one of them was...

1:33:26 Adam Their work construction?

1:33:29 Guest One of them was severely addicted to heroin for several years. And I don't know, the other one, I had always been concerned that he was abusing his girlfriend, but I never said anything just because I didn't have any proof.

1:33:45 Adam Right.

1:33:46 Guest So I didn't really know.

1:33:48 Adam All right. All right. So, hey, Jennifer, you got to take care of yourself now. Right? You got to find a counselor that fits. And don't be so picky. Just open up to the next person you sit down with, okay? Okay. All right.

1:34:05 Drew All right, Jennifer.

1:34:05 Adam What are you doing there, Drew? What's up? It's a freaky night.

1:34:09 Drew Yeah.

1:34:10 Adam What a big, big problem night.

1:34:12 Drew Yeah.

1:34:12 Adam And listen, we were talking during the break about this. The only solution I can think to any of this is just screwballs can't have kids. I mean, that's it. I know I know I'm compared unfavorably to Hitler, by the way.

1:34:29 Drew Measure unfavorably.

1:34:30 Adam Yeah, when I bring this up. But listen, that is the solution. All right, we're going to line 2 here. Steve?

1:34:36 Caller Yes?

1:34:37 Adam Year 29, what's up?

1:34:39 Caller I was wondering, is it normal to enjoy having things put in your anus? Like one of my wife does sexual things to me. Yeah.

1:34:50 Adam What's she putting in there? Like when French does the hamster dance?

1:34:53 Caller Oh, no.

1:34:54 Caller Like the back of a...

1:34:55 Guest I was going to say it was with the real hamster.

1:34:56 Adam Like the back of a brush.

1:34:57 Guest You know, like...

1:34:59 Caller What was that?

1:34:59 Adam Back of the brush?

1:35:00 Caller Yeah.

1:35:01 Adam Yeah, not the business end of the brush.

1:35:02 Caller No, no. The back of it. Like the...

1:35:04 Adam Right.

1:35:05 Drew The handle.

1:35:05 Caller Yeah. I just don't want to be like, you know, turning gay or anything.

1:35:08 Adam No.

1:35:09 Caller But I mean, fine.

1:35:09 Adam Gay? No.

1:35:11 Guest You could catch gay though.

1:35:12 Adam That won't turn you gay. You can't with a gay guy. What? That will turn you gay.

1:35:17 Guest Then you can catch some gay.

1:35:18 Drew Yeah. But brush handles in the keister?

1:35:22 Adam No.

1:35:23 Drew The other side of the brush.

1:35:24 Guest Well, depending on how many times she turns the brush, then she could turn you gay if she turned it 14 times.

1:35:29 Caller Have you ever tried that, Adam?

1:35:30 Adam Yep.

1:35:31 Caller It feels good.

1:35:32 Adam It's good times. I usually use grill cream as lube because it's right there. I usually keep it right next to the brush.

1:35:38 Guest I heard the real men don't need the lube.

1:35:42 Drew Probably at least, right?

1:35:43 Guest Yeah.

1:35:44 Caller It amplifies the feeling like that.

1:35:45 Guest Oh, buddy, just spit on it.

1:35:47 Adam Yeah.

1:35:47 Caller I had another question. No.

1:35:49 Drew Let's do it every time.

1:35:50 Caller Sorry about that.

1:35:53 Adam You're doing fine. It's just you could get hepatitis from using the brush like whoever just came in there, right? I mean, you got to wash your brush off, right?

1:36:02 Drew Please, please, please.

1:36:03 Adam We'll take a little break. We'll be back. All right, everybody. I want to thank Catherine and David Allen for coming out here from Three Sisters. Good times. Tuesday night, NBC, 9.30. Go out and support the show. Thanks a lot for coming in, you guys. Thank you. Thanks for having us. So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:36:56 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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