Episode 1000754887081

1:01 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:12 Adam Hey, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 3108-54-4455, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist.

1:25 Drew Adam Corolla, Occhenear.

1:27 Adam That's right. Hey, man, I'm in the middle of the hole. Sasha Alexander is our guest tonight from Dawson's Creek, which is on the www, www, www, www, wb. Wednesday night.

1:38 Drew You're actually now dating yourself with that reference.

1:40 Adam With that www, www, www, wb.

1:43 Oh, am I?

1:44 Adam So be it. Wednesday night, 8 o'clock, Sasha plays Gretchen, who's Dawson's girlfriend on the show. First season, right?

1:55 First season. Yeah.

1:56 Sasha Alexander For you?

1:56 Adam For you.

1:57 Drew Yeah, it is.

1:58 Adam I didn't mean to blindside you.

1:59 Sasha Alexander It's the first season? No, it's the fourth.

2:00 Adam Yeah, I was gonna, I would have guessed that.

2:02 Drew She's just in awe of your ability, Adam.

2:04 Sasha Alexander I'm in awe about him already.

2:06 Drew Just, oh man.

2:08 Adam The honeymoon will be over after tonight, Sasha. I can guarantee you that. I'm much less attractive when you spend quality time with me. That's, isn't that true, Drew?

2:20 Drew Yeah, much.

2:21 Adam Yeah, but Drew's hot.

2:23 Sasha Alexander Very hot.

2:23 Adam Look at Drew over here.

2:24 Very hot.

2:26 Adam I think he's one of the hunkiest doctors around.

2:29 Sasha Alexander Absolutely.

2:29 Drew How about Dr. Sean?

2:31 Adam Who's Dr. Sean?

2:32 Sasha Alexander Who's Dr. Sean?

2:32 Drew The guy from Survivor.

2:34 Adam That pussy? You chew him up and cramp him out. Is that, oh, hey, I don't know. No. No. You're better, Drew.

2:42 Sasha Alexander You're so much hunkier.

2:43 Adam You know why? Because you got that sort of, well, I don't want to call it gray, but gray hair, but yet you don't have wrinkles. If you can get gray hair and not have wrinkles, you're high.

2:54 Yeah, how do you not have wrinkles?

2:55 Sasha Alexander You have great skin.

2:56 Drew I have wrinkles.

2:57 Adam No.

2:57 Drew It's not looking.

2:58 No way. Here we go. How?

2:59 Drew What are we doing here, Sasha? What are we doing?

3:01 Adam Ah, we're going to talk about Sasha's movie, which is coming out. When is this movie coming out?

3:07 Sasha Alexander Um, when is it coming out? I think it's coming out in the beginning of August.

3:10 Adam All over the guy.

3:11 Sasha Alexander All over the guy.

3:12 Adam Adam Goldberg and Lisa Kudrow are in this. Adam Goldberg is a great guy.

3:17 Sasha Alexander Great guy, great actor. Had a really good time with him.

3:20 Adam And he's a really good guy, too.

3:22 Drew We don't know if he's a good actor or not. We just spent time with him on this show.

3:24 Sasha Alexander Do you know him? No.

3:26 Drew We played baseball with him, too, didn't we?

3:28 Adam He's been in here three or four times. And I've always had a good time sort of hanging out and talking to him after the show and everything.

3:35 Drew Didn't we play baseball with him?

3:36 Adam And he did play in that Dodger celebrity all-star game I was banned from some years back. And I won't go into that story again. But it'll be good to tell my grandkids. Blake, Blake, hey, Drew, let's not talk to any guys.

3:53 Drew Really? Oh, that's, I'm, I'm.

3:54 Adam Don't start with any guys. Let's talk to chicks. Janet?

3:58 Yeah.

3:58 Adam You're 23. What's up?

4:00 Caller Yeah, it's been three, about three years since I've been in my last relationship. And it was a pretty bad relationship. It took me about six months to get over.

4:11 Drew Why was it bad?

4:13 Caller Well, me and my boyfriend were intimate. And I trusted my best friend to hang out with us and everything. And about like after we broke up, it wasn't even a week later and they started dating. They were together for a year and a little over a year. But I guess that's probably why it was so traumatic for me. It was me, myself and my boyfriend were intimate. And my best friend knew what was going on.

4:40 Drew How long ago was this?

4:42 Adam Three years.

4:43 Drew Three years ago?

4:44 Caller Yeah.

4:45 Drew And you were with him how long?

4:47 Caller I was with him for about a year.

4:48 Drew So you were 19 to 20.

4:49 Adam You've now tripled the span of the relationship with your hatred and mourning period.

4:53 Drew Quadrupled, yeah, absolutely.

4:55 Adam I doubled once.

4:56 Drew Oh, you did more than that.

4:57 Caller I've forgiven him. I've forgiven him. It's just, I can't be around girls. It's like I really cannot make girlfriends.

5:06 Drew Yeah, but Janet.

5:07 Adam You can't listen to them. That's what it is.

5:09 Drew No, but Anna, this is the kind of woman you've been looking for, which is one when you cheat. Now, you go ahead and you screw one of her girlfriends, she gets mad at the girlfriend.

5:16 Adam Yep. Yeah. That's my favorite kind of woman. You see them on Springer all the time, which is, the boyfriend screws around with their best friend, they want to kill their best friend, and they forgive their boyfriend.

5:26 Drew Ridiculous.

5:27 Adam What would your wife do to you if she caught you screwing around with one of her friends?

5:30 Drew Drawn a quarter.

5:31 Adam That's right.

5:32 Caller Oh, yeah.

5:34 Caller But I'm willing, not for sure, how to start getting into other relationships. I guess whenever I try to get close to someone, to a guy, if it be a friend or if it be a boyfriend, it's I get really clingy and I get really upset when they say they're going to call me or we're going to do something, they don't call me. They like to leave me hanging.

5:57 Adam Okay. The reason they don't call you is because you're freaking them out.

6:00 Caller I mean, I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

6:03 Adam You're spooky. You're putting too much pressure on everybody.

6:06 Drew People want to enjoy themselves in a relationship. They want to have fun. They feel that weird, clingy, they want to feel like a life and death, the grip is being put on them.

6:15 Sasha Alexander That's also true with women.

6:16 Drew It's especially true with women. It's way worse with women. A guy version of Janet? Oh, that poor guy. He'd never climb out of that.

6:25 Adam Nope. Just have to kill themselves.

6:27 Janet? I don't know. I'm just asking.

6:29 Adam Janet, Janet. Focus on the bigger picture here. There's something going on with you.

6:35 Drew Right. You sound depressed.

6:38 Adam It's not all over this relationship. You know, there had to be some groundwork laid for this.

6:44 Caller Yeah.

6:44 Adam Where's your dad?

6:46 Caller He doesn't talk to me.

6:48 Adam All right.

6:49 Why not?

6:50 Caller My mom and dad divorced when I was four.

6:52 Drew Why?

6:52 Adam So did he? Well, she doesn't know why.

6:55 Drew Well, dad was a drug addict.

6:56 Caller He was abusive.

6:57 Okay.

6:58 Adam All right.

7:01 Caller My mom got remarried and my dad, my stepdad is an alcoholic.

7:05 Adam Okay. All right. So this is where all this energy is coming from.

7:08 Drew And we would bet first dad was an alcoholic too, by the way. Your mom's a codependent. She picks addicts.

7:15 Caller Yeah.

7:15 Drew Are you an alcoholic addict?

7:17 Caller Oh, no, no. I'm a very religious person.

7:19 Drew All right. Well, why don't you get better connected with people in safer environments, have intimacy of a non-romantic nature. People you know, the clerk, excuse me, the church, clergy. How about a codependency recovery program, Al-Anon or something like that?

7:35 Caller Yeah.

7:36 Drew Okay. Go there and.

7:38 Caller Yeah. I don't know. I'm just really scared to be in.

7:41 Drew Isis.

7:42 Caller Listen.

7:42 Drew Listen. I suspect that.

7:43 Adam Well, listen. Could it be worse than where you're at now? I mean, you're left now essentially.

7:48 Drew Well.

7:48 Adam You're on your own. You're going through life on your own.

7:50 Drew She's safer. She's safer though. It's safer than having that.

7:52 Adam I know, but she's miserable.

7:53 Drew I know. So she has to have a non-romantic intimacy, either a therapist or a sponsor in recovery. Once you experience yourself in a connected relationship with someone and find out that it is safe and that you're okay, then you can go have a better, safer, romantic relationship.

8:07 Adam Yeah.

8:08 Sasha Alexander I also remember that I had a tough time with women too. I mean, especially a lot of girls can be incredibly backstabbing and tough to talk to. But you have to know that there are women out there that relate and that go through the same thing you do and have the same insecurities and fears and stuff as you do. And so, is she gone? No, she can hear you. So know that and look for those people and try to find them, as Dr. Drew said, in safe groups.

8:35 Adam Molly?

8:36 Yeah?

8:36 Adam You're 17? What's up?

8:39 Caller Um, my boyfriend and I have been together for about 10 months, monogamously. And lately, when we've had sex, we've both experienced kind of a Bernie feeling afterwards.

8:49 Drew When you pee?

8:50 No, just after the sex.

8:52 Drew Where?

8:53 Caller Um, on my vagina.

8:55 Drew On their ear.

8:55 What do you think?

8:57 Drew On their ear. He doesn't have a vagina, where is he experiencing it?

9:00 On his penis.

9:01 Drew On the skin of his penis?

9:03 Caller Yeah, and it's kind of like healing and like irritated.

9:07 Drew Were you guys virgins?

9:09 Uh, no.

9:10 Drew Does somebody have herpes?

9:12 No.

9:12 Adam What are you using for lube, Ben Gay?

9:15 Drew What's going on down there? Are you acting for a long time together? I mean, your whole act, maybe you gotta slow down.

9:21 Adam Yeah, what are you good for, sexually?

9:23 What do you mean?

9:24 Adam Well, how long does the act last?

9:26 Not very long.

9:28 Adam Didn't she just...

9:29 Drew She just said very long, yeah.

9:30 Adam She didn't get it. How long is not very long?

9:33 Caller Like 10 minutes, 5 minutes.

9:36 Adam I see. And there's all that irritation in a relatively short period of time.

9:40 Yeah.

9:41 Drew All right. Well, there could be...

9:42 And this has only been lately.

9:44 Drew How come you haven't gone to see your gynecologist or doctor?

9:47 Caller Well, today was the third time it happened.

9:50 Drew Okay.

9:50 Caller And we're just today like, yeah, we have to go see a doctor.

9:53 Drew Good. Are you using a condom?

9:55 Caller No.

9:56 Adam What are you using for... You're on the pill?

9:58 Drew Yeah. All right. All right. Well, it could be... It shouldn't be yeast, because yeast doesn't affect men typically, at least not that quickly and not that way. Boy, the only thing that affects skin on the male, causes burning, is the herpes. So you worry that's what it is.

10:15 And neither of us have like blisters or bumps or anything.

10:17 Drew Yeah, it may just be nothing. It may just be some irritation. Who knows? But you got to get checked out, okay?

10:22 Okay, thanks.

10:23 Adam All right, happy umping there, Molly. Yeah, see that doctor. Good times. All righty, everybody. Drew, has ever dawned on you that we just talked to underage kids about how to get it on all night?

10:34 Like, hey, that's what I was thinking.

10:36 Adam Thirteen-year-olds call the show and it's like, my girlfriend's anus reach and it's really tight. We're like, well, if you use a good water soluble lube, if you start dawn on you, that's what we do.

10:46 Drew Because that's not what we do. We go, hey, goofball, what are you doing?

10:48 Adam We do?

10:49 Drew We're trying to wake them up to what they're doing.

10:50 Adam And then eventually we're like, well, if you use-

10:52 Drew We capitulate. Yeah, by 1130, we're like, ah, whatever.

10:54 Adam Yeah, give her some wine coolers. You shoot up some heroin and get good and lubed up. Make sure the door's locked, but you don't want your parents coming in while you're cornholing. Amber?

11:06 Hello?

11:07 Adam You're 17.

11:08 Caller Hi. What's up? Okay, like when my boyfriend and I have sex, you know, it takes me a while to get wet. And then when I do, I don't get very wet. Like, just like a little bit, like he almost always has to go down on me.

11:21 Drew Are you into the experience?

11:23 Caller Yeah.

11:23 Drew Are you on the pill?

11:24 Caller Yeah.

11:25 Drew Sometimes a pill can make it difficult to get wet. Are you, which pill are you on?

11:30 Caller Pardon?

11:30 Drew Which pill are you on?

11:31 Caller Orthotrycycline.

11:32 Drew Yeah. Not typically that one, but it could. It could make it, that could be the whole deal. If that's a change in how you normally function.

11:38 Caller No, like it's always been like that, even like before that.

11:40 Adam How do they decide what pill to give you? Sasha, maybe you know something about this.

11:44 Drew It's pretty random.

11:45 Sasha Alexander It's really random. Sometimes you have to like take different ones and see how they affect you. And sometimes you can know within 30 days, you either gain weight, sometimes you break out or your skin gets clear.

11:56 Adam There's so many different things.

11:57 Drew I get irritable and moody.

11:59 Sasha Alexander Sometimes you have to wait like three months.

12:00 Drew Your breast hurt, you mean?

12:01 Adam Well, I lactate and then I get irritable because I ruin my blouses. I mean, you would do, right? Christ's sake.

12:08 You're sick.

12:10 Drew You're just noticing.

12:12 Adam Hey, Amber.

12:14 All right.

12:14 Adam I don't even know what your question was. What was Amber's question? Oh, she's dry. Right. How about, well, here we go. How about some lube?

12:19 Sasha Alexander KY.

12:20 Caller Well, he does. Yeah, I heard about that, but I'm only 17. Is that normal to be like?

12:26 Drew Yeah, it's normal. It's normal for some people, yeah.

12:28 Caller Really?

12:28 Drew Yeah.

12:28 Sasha Alexander It's so normal.

12:29 Caller It's going to be like that forever?

12:30 Drew Maybe, maybe not.

12:32 Adam No.

12:32 Drew We were talking last night. We were talking about last night about how we've been changed during the life cycle.

12:36 Adam Yeah, I'll explain something about the vagina.

12:37 Drew Please, Adam. Please enlighten us.

12:39 Adam Vagina, vagina is like an engine of an old car. You got to, on a cold morning, you got to get out there and start it up. Get it going a little. Maybe choke it a little bit.

12:51 Drew You have to pull the carburetor out and put some...

12:53 Adam You could prime it. Sure. You could prime that carb a little. Get it going.

12:57 Sasha Alexander I love the hand gesture.

12:58 Adam Spray that little quick start, a little ether in there. Well, if it has trouble catching, yeah, when you turn it over, you don't want the battery to run low.

13:04 Drew KY quick start?

13:05 Adam Just a little spray? No. I'm saying you start it up and then you go back in the house and have a cup of coffee. Let it warm up. You can't just hop in it and drive. Right.

13:14 Drew It'll stall out.

13:15 Adam Yeah. You're kids today. You don't know about that. No, I mean, you do with the vaginas, but not with the cars. Remember the little warming up thing? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you go start your car up at like four in the morning, then go back in the house and go to bed. That's what my dad would do, and then he'd come out at nine in the morning, leave for work, take the car five hours to warm up. Put a little brick on the accelerator or something. You know, Drew.

13:37 Drew All right.

13:37 Adam So the vagina has to get warmed up, right, Sasha?

13:41 Drew Yeah, not the individual with the vagina, the vagina itself.

13:44 Adam You can't just jump in and start driving.

13:47 Drew Right.

13:47 Adam Hard, you'll ruin the vagina.

13:49 Drew That's right.

13:49 Adam It's just like a car.

13:50 Sasha Alexander Yeah. You know what? There's nothing wrong. You shouldn't feel embarrassed about having to use lube. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, it actually feels better with it.

13:58 Adam And saying, I don't get lubricated until my boyfriend goes down on me, that's not a big thing. That's part of the warm up process.

14:04 Drew We were talking last night about the differences in the female sexual response across a life cycle, lifetime.

14:09 Adam Yeah.

14:09 Sasha Alexander Oh, yeah.

14:10 Drew It really gets the testosterone level start to come to bear around 40, 50.

14:14 Adam Yeah. They get a mustache, they get horny, they shave, they get that buzz cut, the shoulders get wide, they get haunchy, they get irritable. Then it's like they throw that chewing tobacco out and they're like, give me some. I mean, I remember, because I'm 36, I have a lot of female friends that are my age, and I remember, I've known a lot of them since I was 15 or 16, and I remember their takes on things like oral sex. It's 16 and 17, which is, now it's like, just put it through the mail slot. I'm not even going to open the door. Oh, yes. They get horny, or they get older, women do. Good times. You notice that, Sasha, you notice anything? Absolutely. I don't know how old you are now, but you're different. 26.

14:58 Drew You're different.

14:59 Adam Still young. You're different at 26 and you were at 16, right?

15:02 Sasha Alexander So different.

15:03 Drew And it's not psychological so much as really your biology shifts a little bit.

15:06 Sasha Alexander I think it is though a little bit. I mean, I think women, I think not just with experience, but the more comfortable you get in your body, the more you grow into yourself. And I think that's a little psychological, a little emotional.

15:19 Adam I think it's everything. And also sometimes physical shifts trigger emotional and psychological shifts too.

15:25 Drew But and how does that figure into your car analogy?

15:30 Adam Well, that's the navigation device.

15:31 Drew Oh, I see.

15:32 Adam It is a new car. Now, what I'm saying is, when you're 16, you're with your boyfriend. It's kind of because you want to be with him. I mean, you want to make him happy. You enjoy the intimacy, but maybe not so much the actual sexual part of it is the intimacy part of it.

15:49 Sasha Alexander No, it's very strange. I don't really remember much of it. I mean, I don't remember it being something that I was... You didn't know that much then. You didn't know about your own body, and so you're sharing with somebody else.

16:01 Drew The male doesn't know much. No, not at all.

16:03 Sasha Alexander So you have two people.

16:03 Drew But he's into it, believe me. He's like, that's emblazoned in his head forever.

16:08 Sasha Alexander Well, isn't it? I mean, with men, it's just such a physical thing. It's just the way we were created that men need to just, they need to release. I think they get to a certain age.

16:15 Drew Thank you.

16:16 Sasha Alexander You know, and they need to do that. For women, we don't necessarily feel that way. We don't feel like we have to do that. And that's why I think marriage, I think, I mean, not just a marriage, but relationships can get tough because women don't need it as much as men do.

16:27 Adam But as the years wear on, the women become a little more like men and the men become like women.

16:35 Drew Well, yes.

16:36 Adam Drew, you're going to be wearing a skirt in five years and crying when your wife makes love to you.

16:41 Drew You saw my training, bro?

16:42 Adam You're saying, just hold me. Yeah, stop moving so fast. Justin?

16:46 Yeah, what's up, Adam?

16:47 Adam You're 19. What's up?

16:48 Caller Yeah, I must say, the man shows good times, man.

16:51 Adam Well, thank you.

16:52 Drew Whatever. And Justin, relax here, Justin, because you're our first male and if you blow it, no more males tonight.

16:57 Caller Oh, but listen, I'm not trying to blow it for you, Dr. Drew, but men from Mars and women from Venus?

17:03 Drew It's not meant for 19-year-olds, dude, because you're just about done, though.

17:07 Caller Oh, okay.

17:08 Adam Are you on a speakerphone?

17:09 Caller Actually, my phone's broke because I swam in across the room this morning because I got pissed at it, because it woke me up, Adam. I had to go to work. All right.

17:16 Adam Listen, you, I, okay.

17:18 Yeah, I want to go, uh, Hurry.

17:20 Adam Are you, um, worried? No, I'm just hanging up on him now. See, Justin, you want to know why women hate men? It's Justin.

17:30 Drew Yeah.

17:30 Adam It's like one Justin for all of us.

17:33 Drew Yeah, I hate men now.

17:34 Adam You know what I mean? A handful of terrorists ruin it for the whole Arab countries. You know what I'm saying? Yes. A handful of Justins ruin it for all guys. We think everybody, everyone wearing a towel on their head is a terrorist now, right? Am I right, Drew?

17:51 Drew Yes, you're right.

17:52 Adam Thank you. There's just a handful of bad seeds will ruin it, ruin it for the whole barrel.

17:56 Drew It's how bad the bad seeds are that ruin it.

17:58 Adam Right. I was looking for turban, but a towel just came out.

18:02 Thank you.

18:02 Adam Karen?

18:03 Hello?

18:04 Adam You're 20. What's up?

18:06 Caller Okay. I live with my boyfriend and she looks at porn and we don't have sex a lot. Well, enough.

18:15 How often?

18:16 Caller Well, lately it's been more, but-

18:19 Drew How often?

18:20 Caller I don't know, a couple of times, maybe three, four times a month.

18:24 Drew A month. Okay.

18:25 Adam That's a little light for- how old is he? How much porn is he watching?

18:32 Caller Well, it's not so much anymore, but it's made me like a psycho, okay? I look on the computer everywhere, like I look in all his files and everything to like look where he went and if he's looking at it-

18:44 Drew Why is that important to you?

18:46 Caller I don't know because I don't want him to.

18:48 Drew Why?

18:49 Caller I don't know.

18:50 Sasha Alexander Does it make you feel like you're not attractive because he's looking at other women?

18:56 Caller I get jealous.

18:58 Sasha Alexander Totally.

18:58 Adam All right.

18:59 Drew Well, all men do it. Yeah.

19:01 Adam But see all men do it and most women will put up with it, but when they start pulling away physically from the woman and looking at it, now shines the spotlight on the porn and that's when she goes after it.

19:13 Drew Okay.

19:14 Adam I get the feeling she'd be a little freaked out about it anyway.

19:17 Drew Oh yeah. Karen?

19:19 Sasha Alexander He didn't include it. Does he include you?

19:21 Adam No way.

19:21 Caller He does it like secretly.

19:23 Sasha Alexander That's weird. Why is he doing it secretly?

19:26 Adam Why? Because Warden Karen over here is going to put him in lock down if she sees him looking at anything. Karen, because you freak him out about it so he sneaks off and does it.

19:37 Sasha Alexander Yeah.

19:37 Adam So what's going on with you? We'll get to him in a second.

19:41 Caller You're overweight.

19:42 Adam Drew, please. Go ahead.

19:44 Caller Because before I lived together, I don't know. We still didn't have sex that much.

19:51 Adam Well, let's talk about you for a second. Let's float a theory here. Did your dad cheat on your mom?

19:57 Caller No.

19:58 Adam Are they still together?

19:59 Caller No.

19:59 Drew No.

20:00 Adam What happened?

20:02 Caller I don't know.

20:02 Drew Hell, we will know. Well, they're addicts? What's happening?

20:06 Caller No, they're not addicts.

20:07 Drew Why is it crazy?

20:08 Adam It's an addict and has herpes according to Drew.

20:10 Drew You said they were crazy.

20:11 Caller No, they're not crazy. I'm just I'm nervous right now.

20:15 Drew Okay. Why did they break up?

20:18 Caller Just like they owned a business and it didn't work out. And my dad stayed with the business and my mom didn't.

20:24 Drew How old were you when that happened?

20:26 Caller I was like from fourth grade.

20:27 Adam All right. Your dad never got pop cheating, huh?

20:30 Caller No.

20:31 Adam All right. What kind of business just for kicks?

20:34 Caller I don't want to say.

20:36 Adam I see. Porn. How's your relationship with your dad?

20:41 Caller It's okay.

20:42 Adam Okay. He ever... See, there's something... What? What is it?

20:48 Caller I don't know. Am I weird for not wanting him to look at porn?

20:51 Adam No.

20:51 You're not.

20:53 Adam But there's an energy to it.

20:54 Drew There's some energy here. But it seems like what's troubling you is that he's really pulling out of the relationship in some way. At least you sense that and that the physical... you're perceiving his physical expression as a manifestation of his emotional state. And it may well be. But that needs to be addressed. You need to take the heat off the porn and talk about your relationship and see if he's really wanting to stay in this or not.

21:13 Caller Yeah. And he smokes a lot of wheat, too.

21:15 Drew Oh, that'll deal with this. That'll knock his libido down. Definitely do it. I mean, that's that.

21:19 Adam Yeah. The beauty of porn is she never asks anything of you. You know what I mean? I call her she. I call porn like people call she a boat.

21:28 Drew When you're a pothead, people are a hassle. They require energy.

21:31 Adam Everything's a hassle. People want stuff. They do.

21:34 Sasha Alexander I had a boyfriend who also didn't share his porn with me, and I found it really amusing in the beginning because I thought that he-

21:43 Drew Don't you like the way Sasha said that?

21:45 Yeah.

21:46 Adam Sure, it's hilarious at the beginning.

21:47 Sasha Alexander I thought it was funny. But then what I realized was that he had his own issues with stuff.

21:54 Drew Like what?

21:56 Sasha Alexander Well, we won't get into that. But the point is that what I came to learn was that men and women have, if they approach sex so differently, and that's the first thing is understanding, I think, as a woman, your own sexuality, and understanding that men going off to do what they need to do in the bathroom every day is part of their well-being, and you have to let them do it.

22:12 Drew Part of their well-being?

22:14 Sasha Alexander It is. They need to do it.

22:15 Drew Well, Adam had a whole well-being program.

22:17 Adam Yes. I well-beamed on myself before I left for the show tonight, actually.

22:23 About 7.30, actually.

22:24 Sasha Alexander I mean, if you understand men's cycles and women's cycles, I think you can take, as you said, the pressure off the porn and then take a look at what's really going on with him.

22:34 Adam Her thing, yeah, but this guy smokes a lot of weed and he's sort of pulling out of the relationship that may be out of line.

22:39 Drew I was sensing addiction in this whole situation from the beginning.

22:41 Sasha Alexander The weed probably makes him lazy.

22:43 Adam Okay. So look at-

22:45 Drew Knocks libido down and makes him not want to deal with people.

22:47 Adam There you go. It's evil. Sasha Alexander is our guest tonight from Dawson's Creek. We will take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Don as 23. Boyfriend gets mad before she can- Because. Oh, because. Oh, my friend at PC. Because she can have an orgasm thinking about girls. All right. All that after this.

23:09 Caller Hello. Who is this?

23:10 Caller This is Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191. Loveline will be right back.

23:38 Caller Hello, this is Adam Goldberg, and you're listening to Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

23:43 Oh, Anderson.

23:46 Adam That's why he's the best. Sasha Alexander is our guest tonight from Dawson's Creek, Wednesday nights, eight o'clock, www. Sasha plays a Gretchen, who is Dawson's girlfriend on the show. And you look like a Gretchen. I do? You could pass for a Gretchen. Yeah.

24:04 Sasha Alexander Really? Gretchen's like a slut name.

24:08 Adam It's naughty, but it's not slutty.

24:09 Sasha Alexander It is a little naughty. It's like Heather.

24:12 Adam The ultimate slut name is Cammie.

24:16 Sasha Alexander Cammie?

24:17 Adam Cammie and Cammie are like ho names.

24:20 Sasha Alexander Cammie.

24:22 Adam Cammie is even like, Cammie is Cammie's slutty friend, and Cammie's pretty slutty. You know, have you ever known any Cammies? What the hell's up with that?

24:33 Sasha Alexander I've known Cammies though.

24:34 Adam What's a Cammie short for? That's a name. I mean, it's out there.

24:38 Sasha Alexander Candy.

24:40 Adam No. Drew, do you ever know any Cammies?

24:43 Drew Just Patience.

24:44 Adam Yeah. All sluts, right? Patience. Right?

24:47 Drew Slutty?

24:48 Adam Slutty Cammie. Cammie the slut?

24:50 Drew No?

24:51 Adam Don?

24:52 Yes.

24:53 Adam You're 23.

24:54 Caller Yes.

24:54 Adam You know anyone named Cammie?

24:56 Caller No, I don't.

24:57 Adam That's right. And if you did, she'd be a slut.

25:00 Drew What's up, Don? What's the deal?

25:03 Caller Hi, Don. Hi.

25:04 Drew What's going on?

25:05 Caller Okay. What's going on is when me and my boyfriend first actually started having sex, I couldn't have orgasms. I mean, I could have orgasms when he'd go down on me, but I couldn't actually have it during the actual intercourse.

25:15 Drew Which is normal.

25:16 Caller Right. Well, I don't know. That's right. But it would make him mad. And he's like, hey, we'll just fantasize about something. Well, when I used to masturbate, when I was 15, 16 years old, I used to fantasize about women. And I was actually with three women before. And I've been with them enough to know with those three people that I don't like women in that way anymore. It was just the phase I was going through. I tried telling him that.

25:37 Adam Same with Drew and the 15 guys. He knows now almost definitively that he doesn't want to be with guys anymore.

25:44 Caller Well, maybe he should be calling them. But anyway, like one night he told me, he's like, hey, we'll just fantasize about something. So I did. And I was actually able to have the orgasm for the first time. When we were finished reeling, he asked me, what would you fantasize about? I fantasized being with a woman. And like he said, we got pissed. I don't know why, but he just like went off the wall and said, there's something wrong with me because I can't have orgasms. Trying to fantasize about our sexuality.

26:09 Adam I see. He sounds like a dynamite, dynamite individual. I'd really like to get to know him better.

26:15 Drew Yeah, you should find him out sometime. A lovely man.

26:18 Adam Let's do a little profile on this guy. What's he do? Is he work in metal? Construction or work around metal?

26:23 Caller He basically does construction.

26:25 Yeah, shocking. How do you guys know that?

26:27 Adam Oh, I don't know. Drew was going to go, you were going to go with the interior decorator. I was originally going to go with a certified public accountant, right?

26:40 Drew We just know enough of these guys.

26:41 Adam But we played our gut and went with construction. Shocking.

26:45 Drew Adam worked with these guys for many years.

26:46 Adam I work with these idiots. This guy's an idiot. That's why.

26:50 Sasha Alexander Why? Because he's mad that she fantasized about a woman?

26:52 Adam Well, the first thing that lets me know he's an idiot is he's kind of angry or a little agitated that she's not having an orgasm via the intercourse in the first place. And it's important to him that she does.

27:05 Drew For him, not for her, but for him.

27:08 Adam For him.

27:08 Sasha Alexander Okay.

27:09 Adam Right. Then when he tells her to fantasize and she's truthful about who she fantasized about, he gets angry and he takes it, you know, he's threatened by it.

27:16 Caller Well, see, he shouldn't be threatened because I even told him that I was never able to have orgasms with any guys I was with before. Even when most of them would go down on me, even then I couldn't have an orgasm.

27:25 Drew Yeah, but he's an idiot.

27:26 That's the problem.

27:28 Adam What does he do? Drive a truck?

27:30 Caller No. Actually, to be honest, I totally don't know really what he does. All I know is that he works with a bunch of people out on the roads when they do highway work and stuff like that.

27:37 Adam So he's basically a felon. He's a prisoner.

27:40 Caller No, he's not.

27:41 Adam Is he chained to other guys?

27:44 Caller No.

27:45 Adam No.

27:46 Caller No, he actually works for the city, I assume.

27:49 Adam You would assume. You don't sweat the details.

27:51 Drew You're pretty close to them, aren't you?

27:52 Caller No, not really. I mean, we've only been together about, I'd say, maybe eight months. Oh, yeah. And like when we were...

27:57 Drew What do you do for a living?

27:59 Adam Well, she doesn't know.

28:00 Caller No, actually, no. I work for Prime America.

28:04 Doing what?

28:05 Caller It's basically a financial needs...

28:06 Drew Doing what? Doing what?

28:08 Caller It's financial needs analysis, straighten out people's credit mortgages and pipelines and stuff like that.

28:14 Adam I see. It doesn't sound like you're all that into this guy.

28:17 Caller Not really, I am, but it's just... I may only be 23, like when I sit around and argue about petty things. I have better things to do with my time.

28:24 Adam All right. Well, just tell him that.

28:26 Caller I have, and he gets so angry and he's just like, I told him, I said, don't take it personal. You're not family one. He says he should be different from other people, and I shouldn't have to fantasize about women that I haven't worked with. Yes.

28:39 Drew Not your problem.

28:40 Caller Oh, no, it's not my problem.

28:41 Drew Good. Just relax.

28:42 Adam Okay. Please don't have any kids with this idiot.

28:45 Caller No, I'm not having kids.

28:47 Adam You have a kid?

28:48 Caller No, I don't, and I don't plan on having kids.

28:50 Adam You don't?

28:50 Caller No.

28:51 Adam Why not?

28:52 Caller I've been with someone else in the past, and now I'm not ready for them. Come out maybe 30, 35.

28:56 Drew Good. Good girl there, Dawn.

28:58 Adam Send you out a windbreaker. All right. Don't have any kids with this guy, and I don't know if this guy's a long-term guy.

29:05 Caller I don't know. I ain't looking for a serious relationship anyway.

29:08 Adam All right. No kidding. You know his last name?

29:11 Caller Yeah.

29:12 Adam Okay. Just checking.

29:13 Check it.

29:15 Adam There we go. Yeah. I love that about women. They don't know what guys do.

29:18 Sasha Alexander Well, maybe that's why she can't have an orgasm. She doesn't know what he does.

29:21 Drew She's not into him.

29:21 Sasha Alexander She's not into him. Maybe if she found out a little bit about him, she could.

29:25 Adam Yeah. I guess. It's always funny to me. We have women on this show all the time. We go, they bring up their dad or something. We go, what's he do?

29:34 Drew Goes to an office.

29:34 Adam I don't know. He does something.

29:37 Sasha Alexander It's a special something. Sometimes he takes off in the morning.

29:39 Adam The best is when they're in the military. He was on a boat. He flew a plane. He flew off carriers. Yeah, I guess. They can minimize just about everything.

29:53 Drew Somebody actually did that. Remember?

29:54 Adam Yeah. We've had a few of those people in there. Andrew?

29:59 Yeah.

30:00 Adam You're 19.

30:01 Caller Yeah.

30:01 What's going on?

30:02 Caller My question is, every time I have sex with my girlfriend, I accidentally fart over her?

30:08 Adam No, you don't.

30:09 Caller Yeah, I do.

30:10 Sasha Alexander What?

30:11 Adam No.

30:12 Caller Yeah.

30:13 Adam No.

30:13 Caller It's been going on for about three weeks now.

30:15 Adam Accidentally?

30:17 Caller Yeah. When I'm on top of her and I'm having sex with her, I accidentally fart over her. I don't know what's going on there.

30:25 Drew Why don't you evacuate your bladder before you have sex?

30:29 Caller I do that.

30:30 Drew Well, where could the urine be coming from?

30:32 Caller I don't know.

30:34 Drew That's why we're suggesting maybe it's not urine.

30:36 Adam What do you think it is?

30:38 Drew It's semen.

30:39 Adam No, it's not semen, is it?

30:43 Caller I don't think so.

30:45 Adam Well, you feel the sensation of urination?

30:48 Caller Yeah.

30:49 Adam And are you able to stop yourself?

30:52 Caller No.

30:53 Drew Do you see urine flowing out?

30:57 Caller When I pull out, when I get off, I come over myself and I just quickly run to the bathroom. I don't know what's going on.

31:10 Adam Hold on a second. Hey, listen, Anderson, don't worry about the piss thing. Would you please just relax over there? Relax. We can say piss. All right?

31:20 Drew We really can. It's clinically relevant at this point.

31:22 Adam Yeah, it is. This is a serious medical problem that involves piss. Anderson's going nuts over there because we can't say piss on the radio, but I really don't care. I talk about cornholing and Hitler all night. I can say piss.

31:35 Caller You are such an ass.

31:37 Adam Just relax.

31:39 I'm supposed to cut it out. You get a high back and you just said it like 19 times.

31:42 Adam I know.

31:42 Nothing I can do.

31:43 Adam That's cool. That's cool. You're covered on the tape now when we hear this part when you're playing it in the general manager's office. Andrew.

31:50 Caller Yeah.

31:51 Adam Okay. For Anderson's sake, stop saying...

31:54 Caller All right.

31:55 All right.

31:57 Caller All right. Now what should I do about it?

31:59 Drew Well, are you on medication?

32:01 No.

32:03 Drew It's hard to understand how it could happen if you're not on something.

32:05 Adam I don't really believe in that much. I just don't. Why is your girlfriend willing to put up with this over and over again? What kind of self-esteem must she have?

32:13 Caller I've been trying to stop it. I've been urinating in the bathroom. But it seems like it just won't stop.

32:23 Sasha Alexander Well, have you stopped in the middle and gone to the bathroom?

32:26 Caller Yeah.

32:26 Drew You've done that?

32:27 Yeah.

32:29 Sasha Alexander And then you still?

32:31 Caller I'm still doing it.

32:33 Adam And you're on top of her?

32:36 Yeah.

32:36 Adam And you start going in her, what is her reaction?

32:39 Caller Well, she starts screaming.

32:42 Adam And yet, she's back again later that week for some more whiz, right?

32:46 Caller Yeah, basically.

32:48 Sasha Alexander Well, how does she know?

32:50 Caller Well, she says she can feel it.

32:53 Adam All right. And so, when you pull out of her, there's urine coming out of your penis?

32:57 Caller Yeah.

32:58 Adam And then you run to the bathroom or you're able to stop?

33:02 Caller I grab a hold and I just try to stop until I get in the bathroom and then I urinate in the bathroom.

33:10 Adam Hey, can you turn the radio down, screwball?

33:13 Caller Yeah. Hold on.

33:14 Drew Why do I not even believe that Andrew has sex at all?

33:18 Yeah.

33:20 Adam You know why? Well, we call him Andrew. His friends call him Mr. Personality.

33:24 Ah.

33:24 Adam You see. But we know him as Andrew. Yeah. He doesn't sound like he's getting laid. He doesn't. It's not. His girlfriend keeps coming back. She doesn't seem to have any major.

33:38 Sasha Alexander How can he go to the bathroom so much?

33:39 Drew That makes no sense. The only way I'm trying to conceptualize how this could possibly be happening and the only way is if he has a massively obstructive bladder that overflows periodically.

33:49 Sasha Alexander When he gets excited.

33:51 Drew But even then, it should be less likely to release then.

33:54 Adam Yeah.

33:55 Sasha Alexander Yeah, that makes no sense.

33:57 Adam It's really, it's.

33:59 Drew Obviously, if it's real, he should see a urologist.

34:01 Adam Urinating with an erection is like keeping your eyes open when you sneeze. I mean, it's almost impossible. All right. One more time. Andrew?

34:10 Caller Yeah.

34:11 Adam Okay. You have to go see a urologist, all right?

34:13 Caller All right.

34:15 Adam That's a penis doctor? Yeah. This got to be taken care of. But just tell us this was a bogus call so we can end our argument, please.

34:22 Caller This wasn't a bogus call.

34:25 Adam Really?

34:25 Caller Yeah.

34:26 Adam And how often do you have sex with your girlfriend?

34:29 Caller I have sex with her once or twice a week.

34:32 Drew How old is she?

34:33 She's 18.

34:35 Adam And you couldn't get in a position that was sort of less urine-conducive, like, I don't know, her on top or something? I can try that. Anyway, look, he's got to have some kind of prostate infection or something, right?

34:53 Drew I don't even see how it could happen, but it's possible, I guess.

34:56 Adam That's bad times. And she should get some sort of award.

35:00 Drew Yeah, special commendation, absolutely. The city.

35:03 Adam Yeah, the yellow heart. There's something. The mayor ought to give her the key to the city.

35:08 Sasha Alexander I just don't understand how she can feel it. That sounds strange.

35:11 Drew I imagine it could maybe-

35:12 Adam Oh, you'd know it.

35:13 Drew Feel funny, burn.

35:14 Adam Oh, you'd feel it.

35:15 Sasha Alexander Really?

35:16 Adam If a guy was whizzing in you?

35:18 Sasha Alexander I really wouldn't know.

35:20 Adam Really? Well, conduct a little experiment during the break. I bet you will. All right? Now, here's how we're going to do it scientifically. You wave your hand when you think I've started. That's how we're going to know, Drew. That's the only way you can get the bottom. Well, women can feel it when a guy orgasms in them, can't they?

35:37 Drew Right. Yeah. But that's the contractions they're feeling, not the fluid.

35:40 Adam They don't feel the fluid?

35:41 Sasha Alexander That's not true. You can feel that.

35:42 Drew Fluid. Yeah, you can.

35:43 Adam Well, okay.

35:44 You can.

35:45 Adam Do the liquid math.

35:46 Sasha Alexander Yeah, I guess you're right.

35:47 Adam Okay, then.

35:47 Drew Let's go break.

35:48 Adam You want to run the show?

35:49 Drew Speaking of liquid math, I've got to go do some liquid math.

35:50 Adam Well, I got to go too, but I'm not going to waste it in the toilet now. Sasha Alexander is here from Dawson's Creek, and we'll conduct a little experiment. We'll be back after this.

36:00 Caller Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, back in a minute.

36:37 Adam If, Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla, Dr. Drew over there, Sasha Alexander, I guess tonight from Dawson's Creek, 8 o'clock, Wednesday night. WB, she plays Gretchen, not Cammie, but Gretchen, who's Dawson's naughty, naughty, naughty girlfriend. Hey, next week, we got the Mad TV people and New Found Glory, which is a good new band I like. Jamie Presley, Bill Maher, a week after that, someone from Temptation Island or having a reunion. Oh, and my other male lover, Dickie from the Mighty, Mighty Boss Tones. And it's going to be in here.

37:15 Drew That's him.

37:15 Adam Is that him?

37:16 Drew Yeah.

37:16 Adam Along with Jake Busey. So wow, a lot of people for me to talk to and you to listen to. Bruce?

37:24 Yes.

37:25 Adam You're 15?

37:26 Caller Yeah. My question is, lately I've been feeling mentally and sexually frustrated. I don't know why.

37:34 Adam Well, maybe you need a rest. You're 15. You have the pressures, the drinking, the years of abuse.

37:42 Caller Not really.

37:42 Adam Life on the road? No?

37:45 Caller No. I've tried different things to see what they would do. I've tried smoking marijuana. I've tried mushrooms. I've tried masturbating like 17 times in a day.

37:57 Adam I mean, no.

37:58 Caller Yeah. It's getting old.

38:01 Drew What's getting old?

38:02 Caller Like, well, my friend.

38:07 Adam I don't believe him.

38:08 Drew As soon as you start mentioning names, we're out.

38:10 Adam See you, Bruce.

38:11 Drew What?

38:12 Adam Well, say bye, at least. We're hanging up on you. Don't play stupid. What for? Well, listen. I mean, he doesn't have a question. What's his question? I'm 15 and I'm bored. I've tried mushrooms. I've tried masturbation. Seventeen times a day. I mean, my buddy Devin did it 17 times. Actually, Devin did it 16. He passed out.

38:33 Drew As soon as somebody mentions a name, out. But be that as it may, boredom is another sign for depression. And if he's feeling that way, he's depressed. He should have that evaluated.

38:42 Adam Yeah. Unless you're watching foreign film or something, and then it's subtitled. Brian, I don't like those foreign films. I don't like reading. I don't go to a movie to read.

38:54 Sasha Alexander Did you see Crouching Tiger?

38:55 Adam No.

38:56 Sasha Alexander You didn't see it?

38:57 Adam No. I don't read. I want to read. I'll go to one of those places with the books in it. What's that place called, Drew?

39:05 Drew Bookstork.

39:06 Adam No.

39:06 Library.

39:06 Adam Library, right. I'll lend them out.

39:10 Brian?

39:11 Hi.

39:11 Adam You're 15.

39:13 Caller Yeah. My girlfriend masturbates four or five times a day, and she just like admitted it to me. It's like kind of creepy to me, so I was wondering like how much is too much, and like how I should confront her.

39:28 Drew Well, how's she been otherwise?

39:30 Caller What do you mean otherwise?

39:30 Drew Everything normal in the relationship?

39:32 Caller Yeah.

39:33 Drew She's been okay her whole life? She doesn't have any weird behaviors?

39:36 Caller Well, not really.

39:38 Drew Well, if you had to suggest something that might make her that way, what would it be?

39:43 Caller Well, that she's dressing like really, I don't know, like scantily clad.

39:49 Okay.

39:52 Drew That might be something.

39:54 Adam How old is she?

39:56 Caller She's 15, too.

39:57 Adam I see.

39:58 Drew What I'm going after is whether or not the sexual activity, all that masturbation, is a true sexual compulsion or sexual addiction or maybe manic depression.

40:08 Adam You show me a 15-year-old chick who masturbates four or five times a day. Yeah, she has something a little wacky.

40:12 Drew Yeah, and I would think sexual compulsion would be the most likely thing. The presence of that at 15 suggests that she had been sexually abused at one time.

40:20 Caller Okay, but is it still like sexual compulsion because she's waiting till marriage still?

40:24 Drew Well, yeah, masturbation is part of sexual compulsion. Sexual addiction is really defined by the consequences. If things start happening and yet she keeps doing this or hurting herself with it, that's sexual addiction. But sexual compulsion means sort of sexual activity of any kind that seems a little too much. It may just be her.

40:40 Adam Wait a second. She's waiting till marriage for sex?

40:44 Yeah.

40:45 Adam Most 15-year-old chicks start out with that notion and by the summer, they're hanging out with Cammie at the mall, getting laid, and then some ban somewhere with a bunch of old dudes.

40:55 Caller Well, I can hope.

40:56 Adam Right. But why is she waiting till marriage? Is she a religious person? No. What's up with the fact that she's obsessing on masturbation yet waiting for sex? Can she kind of explain that?

41:09 Caller Yeah. She said that it's like because it helps the relationship.

41:13 Caller Waiting for sex.

41:14 Sasha Alexander Your relationship?

41:16 Adam Yeah. She's got some issues going on here. Yeah?

41:21 Caller Not really.

41:22 Adam She doesn't?

41:24 Huh?

41:25 Adam You don't think she's got some pretty major issues?

41:29 Caller Nothing like really too weird.

41:31 Adam Is her family intact?

41:34 Caller No. Her mom and dad are divorced.

41:36 Drew What's with her dad?

41:38 Caller I don't know.

41:38 Adam I've never met him. Did she talk about him?

41:41 Caller Uh, no.

41:42 Drew You might want to explore a little bit with her. And don't consider this some sort of confrontation. Just sort of you're trying to figure out who she is. Okay.

41:52 Adam What do you guys do? You guys make out?

41:55 Yeah.

41:56 Adam You get oral sex?

41:57 No.

41:58 Hmm.

41:59 Sasha Alexander And you don't masturbate together?

42:01 Drew No. Sasha's shocked.

42:05 Sasha Alexander And how do you know she masturbates four times a day?

42:08 Caller We were talking about it.

42:09 Drew She just told him this. They freaked out about it.

42:11 Adam Yeah.

42:11 Sasha Alexander Oh, she just told him this.

42:12 Adam Listen, I'll tell you, all guys have a little bit of a spidey sense that tingles when they hear stuff about women. And it can kind of turn them on, but it also alerts them to the fact there may be something cooking, something in the hopper that's not quite right.

42:28 Drew Think about what their head does. Then they go, oh, she's hot. Okay, let's go on.

42:32 Adam Yeah, but it freaks them a little bit.

42:33 Drew But then they just push it right down, don't they?

42:36 Adam Yeah, like when you're young, or whatever age you are. You're with some girl and she's like, I like it when you pull my hair. And you're like, oh, okay, that's cool. And then she goes, can I call you daddy? And you're like, wow, that's kind of weird. She goes, give it to me, daddy. And you go, okay. And then they spank me and you go, well, I don't want it. And they go, come on, you pussy. And you go, yeah, bitch, I'll give you something. Give me something to cry about. And you start getting into it, but you start going, this kind of sums up here. Some of this is a little freaky, but I mean, anyway.

43:08 Drew And then you just go, I'm in.

43:10 Adam Right. Then you make a mental note, like I got to do something about this. But then there's that montage where the calendar pages fly by and you're having sex and tugging hair and smacking them on the ass. And a few years goes by, you don't address it. But eventually it will mean something. And this is one of those things that has his spidey sense tingling just a little bit. And it should... listen to that. There's something there. Aaron?

43:35 Yes. Hello, everyone.

43:36 Adam You're 22?

43:37 Caller Yeah. Quick question for Drew. Why is it that there's no birth control pill designed for males?

43:46 Drew Because it is extremely difficult to suppress sperm production or to make sperm not work. In the female, all you got to do is suppress the luteinizing hormone surge, which results in the release of the egg. That's all you got to do. With men, you have to shut down their entire system.

44:03 Adam It's difficult.

44:04 Drew Very difficult.

44:05 Adam I mean, it's powerful stuff. My maid was attacked by my hamper recently.

44:10 Drew She was trying to crack through some of the debris?

44:12 Adam I came home early. They were rolling around in the kitchen floor. It was like David Spade and his assistant.

44:16 Drew Wow.

44:18 Adam The hamper actually maced my maid. Luckily, she had a mop. They fought it out pretty good. Tore the place up pretty bad.

44:26 Drew If she was going at your hamper, she must have had a pickaxe or something, right?

44:29 Adam Well, what she does with my tube socks, as you know, she snaps them in half. She does this move where she lays them. There's about 13 inches of space between my washer and dryer. They're sitting down in the basement. She'll lay the tube sock across them like a bridge, and she does this wrestling move. It's a drop elbow move where she drops her elbow and her weight on it, snapping the tube sock in half. That way, now it's sort of hinged.

44:57 Drew She key-eyes, which does it.

44:58 Adam She has key-eyes, and she drops, and she breaks it in half, and then she can fit it into the washing machine. All right. What was Aaron's question?

45:09 Drew Male birth control pill. There's various things being studied. There'll be something out soon.

45:13 Caller Oh, that's what I was going to ask. Is there research?

45:16 Drew Oh, tons, tons.

45:17 Adam Yeah, they're working on it. They're always working on it.

45:19 Drew The one I like is a simple one, a medicine called nifedipine that turns out to paralyze the sperm's tails.

45:25 Adam It's not the pill itself. It's being able to force it up the urethra that most scientists baffle.

45:32 Drew Nice. All right, Aaron, thanks.

45:33 Caller Thank you.

45:34 Adam Okay.

45:35 Caller We're breaking.

45:36 Adam Listen, guys, that's a bad angle that kind of work the male birth control thing. Like, why aren't there? I don't trust those guys.

45:47 Drew The guys that ask that question.

45:48 Adam Yeah, just relax. That's a bad instinct for a guy.

45:53 Drew You know, there's a theory out there that the female birth control pill is affecting women's desire for men. The biological anthropologists believe that it makes women sort of, it sort of turned off to sex a little bit, not fully.

46:05 Adam Why?

46:05 Drew Because the progesterone in there.

46:07 Adam The hormones.

46:07 Drew Yeah, the hormones. They've done this with studies with chimpanzees. They give the female chimpanzees the pill and the alpha male gets it.

46:13 Adam What guys are screwing chimpanzees?

46:16 Drew We'll talk about it in the break.

46:17 Adam What the hell kind of test was that? Are you sick? Is this going on in a college? I can't believe that.

46:26 Drew It's tough, tough work.

46:28 Sasha Alexander I believe it though. I do.

46:31 Drew The results of your urine test soon too, right?

46:33 Adam My urine?

46:34 Drew Whether you urinated or not.

46:35 Adam Oh yeah.

46:36 Drew Speaking of studies.

46:37 Adam Oh God. Here's how the test turned out. I got to give you the results. Sasha did feel the urine.

46:43 Sasha Alexander I raised my hand really high.

46:45 Adam She wasn't aware of the urine. She wasn't aware I was in her. That's where the difficulty came in. We'll take a break. We'll be back.

47:37 Caller Loveline, Fast-Growing Outlaw Radio, North America.

47:43 Caller Yeah.

47:44 Drew What were you saying, Sasha?

47:45 Adam That's good radio there.

47:46 Drew Sasha was trying to talk to you there before you did your...

47:47 Adam I know, but you can't interrupt good radio.

47:51 Sasha Alexander Sorry.

47:51 Adam It's a very, very rare glimpse of good radio on this show. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Sasha Alexander is our guest tonight, Dawson Creek, Wednesday nights, WB, 8 o'clock. She plays Gretchen, who's Dawson's gal pal.

48:09 Sasha Alexander Why did you tell me I look like a Gretchen?

48:11 Caller What does that mean?

48:13 Adam I'm sort of rethinking that, but I see it's not a distraction, you being named Gretchen. Gretchen, yeah, Drew, you buy Sasha as a Gretchen, don't you?

48:26 Drew Yeah.

48:26 Caller Okay. Yeah.

48:27 Drew What is that? Yeah.

48:29 Sasha Alexander What is that?

48:30 Adam I don't know how-

48:31 Drew It's some European something.

48:33 Adam No, but how did-

48:34 Sasha Alexander Gretchen is so not European.

48:35 Drew The Gretchen is like Austrian or-

48:37 Sasha Alexander Is it?

48:37 Adam Dutch or something.

48:38 Drew Yeah, Dutch. No, yeah.

48:39 Adam Oh, you're right.

48:40 Drew Yeah.

48:40 Adam I don't know about that. There's something about names and maybe for people, it gets established at some age in preschool or something when there's a Lisa and there's a Gretchen and there's a Jennifer.

48:54 Drew That's your Gretchen from now on.

48:56 Adam That's yours from here on out. But then there's some sort of kind of universals too that people seem to have. And guys will do that.

49:07 Drew Sven would be. Bring something into mind.

49:10 Adam Yeah. I mean, some things are kind of regional global things. You think of a big blonde guy. You don't think of a black guy named Sven.

49:18 Drew Right.

49:19 Adam Or Hispanic guy named Sven, do you?

49:21 Drew No.

49:22 Adam No. But you don't think of a big blonde guy named Juan or Carlos, right?

49:27 Caller No.

49:28 Adam You do, Drew?

49:28 Drew No. No.

49:29 Adam Thank you. Marie, Drew was like, is that racist? So he gave that, that may be racist. I'll just grunt. Could be a big blonde guy named Oswaldo or Hidalgo. But then he thought, no, that's stupid. I'll just go along with it.

49:45 Sasha Alexander Is there anybody named Hidalgo?

49:47 Adam Hidalgo? Oh, yeah.

49:50 Drew I'm not sure if that's a Hidalgo who pronounces it, but yes.

49:52 Adam Hidalgo, yes. Absolutely. I knew a Hidalgo. Marie?

49:58 Caller Yeah.

49:58 Adam You're 27?

50:00 Caller Yes.

50:00 Adam What's up?

50:02 Caller I have some questions about sex addiction, sex and love addiction.

50:07 Caller All righty.

50:09 Caller Well, I don't really know what my questions are exactly.

50:12 Drew Well, men don't get love addictions.

50:14 Caller They don't.

50:15 Drew No. Women are love and intimacy addicts. That's how they come to sexual addictions.

50:20 Adam But some guys like me are in love with the notion of being in love.

50:25 Drew Yes. Yes, there's that. But other than that.

50:27 Adam Right.

50:28 Caller Well, my husband and I, we've been having troubles pretty much from the beginning.

50:35 Drew But why did you get married then?

50:36 Caller I don't know. We jumped into it.

50:38 Drew I so much wanted to grab my wallet on this one already.

50:40 Adam I got that little girl voice.

50:42 Drew Oh, yes.

50:43 Adam Not little little girl.

50:44 Caller What's that?

50:45 Adam You have a very young voice.

50:48 Caller I know I hear that all the time.

50:50 Drew Yeah, but it's rape at 12 or something.

50:53 Adam I'm going 13.

50:54 Caller Solicitors always ask for my parents when they call me at home.

50:59 Adam Anything we should know about in your past?

51:01 Caller In my past? Well, you could probably guess that my father and mom were divorced because my dad had an affair. And that has, I think, from the beginning, it's made trust really difficult for me. But we have been seeing a couple...

51:23 Drew No, no, more, more.

51:25 Caller What's that?

51:25 Drew That's not enough.

51:27 Caller Not enough?

51:28 Drew Not enough. There's more going on with you.

51:29 Caller Okay.

51:32 Drew Was dad an alcoholic?

51:34 Caller Yeah.

51:34 Drew Okay.

51:35 Caller Keep going.

51:36 Caller My parents smoked pot when I was younger.

51:39 Drew Did anybody do anything weird to you?

51:42 Caller I don't think so, no.

51:43 Uh-uh.

51:44 Drew Okay. Anything around the age of 12, 10, 12?

51:48 Huh?

51:48 Drew How old were you when your parents split up?

51:51 Caller Oh, gosh. I was 21. Yeah.

51:55 Drew Anything happen to you around the age of 10, 12, something like that?

51:58 Caller Anything happen when I was 10 or 12?

51:59 Drew Yeah, in that range.

52:01 Caller I mean, that's when they were smoking pot and I had started to try to get them to stop and eventually they did.

52:08 Adam At 10 or 12, huh?

52:10 Caller Yeah.

52:10 Adam When did you lose your virginity?

52:13 Caller Oh, God. I think 15? I think I was 15. I'm pretty sure I was 15.

52:20 Adam No, you were 14.

52:21 I was 15.

52:23 Adam 14.

52:24 Drew Well, either she was 15 or something happened before she decided to discount.

52:28 What's that?

52:28 Drew You know what I'm saying?

52:29 Adam Anything before that? Were you ever raped or abused sexually?

52:34 Caller No.

52:35 Adam Okay.

52:35 No.

52:37 Adam I believe you.

52:38 Caller Okay.

52:40 Adam So, you come from a little chaos where you had to sort of be the parent and try to keep the family together?

52:46 Caller A little bit, yeah.

52:47 Drew A lot.

52:48 Caller A lot.

52:49 Drew And he was an addict's family too.

52:51 Caller Yeah.

52:52 Drew Okay. Now you got your next project, which is your husband.

52:55 Caller Right.

52:56 Adam Who's an addict?

52:57 Caller Well, he's had a history of substance abuse. And we've been seeing a couple's counselor. And through that, well, my therapist identified me as having some love addiction qualities. And also as my husband as having some similar qualities as well.

53:21 Adam Love addiction or addiction in general?

53:25 Drew That is, I'm not sure that's someone who understands those principles. Addiction is a progressive disorder.

53:29 Adam Who is your therapist? Is it Leo Buscalia?

53:32 Drew And men don't really get love addictions per se. They don't manifest as such.

53:37 Caller Okay, well, he had a love affair.

53:39 Drew Yeah, he's a sex addict. He's not a love addict. He's a sex addict.

53:43 Caller Okay, and he also looks at pornography. I think it seems to be a lot. It's three times a week, but he doesn't see that.

53:52 Drew What was his drug of choice when he was using drugs?

53:55 Caller I know that he used cocaine, and he drank. I think he dropped acid a few times. Oh, well.

54:04 Adam So just boosts cocaine acid?

54:06 Caller What's that?

54:06 Drew Anything else?

54:07 Caller I don't know.

54:08 Isn't that enough?

54:09 Caller That's, huh?

54:10 Drew How long has he been in recovery?

54:13 Caller Well, he had gone to treatment, I think, a couple of different times, and finally just kind of moved away from the whole scene that he was in.

54:20 Drew There is no such thing as that.

54:22 Caller Well, that's how he's...

54:24 Drew There is... He's still using. Or he's using sex. I mean, his addiction is still active.

54:30 Caller It's manifested in other ways.

54:32 Drew It just crosses over to something else. So he must have his addiction treated, or this is not going to slow down.

54:38 Caller Well, he doesn't believe that he is a sex addict, and I guess my problem is that I feel like I've come to believe that I do love him, that we have children together, and I want to maintain our marriage, but I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who's not treating an addiction as that's in fact what they need to do.

55:02 Drew Here's something you can do. You can go to Al-Anon, and very often, go get a sponsor and work the steps with your sponsor, and if you actually start growing in that process of codependency recovery, sometimes that really wakes up the addicts and lets them know they've got to do something to keep up with you, because you will grow away from them and not put up with this crap anymore.

55:20 Adam They're in couples therapy, so they're kind of hashing it out, although it just sounds like, oh, let me, we got to talk to Marie for just one second here, let me give you the couples therapy scenario. He got popped cheating, and that's...

55:34 Drew He's willing to go.

55:35 Adam Yeah, it's like you're going because you got popped.

55:37 Drew They're going to someone who's saying, honey, you must be a love addict to a male, severe addict, untreated. You don't mince words with an addict in that condition.

55:45 Adam Marie?

55:45 Caller Yes?

55:46 Adam You popped him for cheating, right?

55:48 Caller Right.

55:48 Adam And that's why he's going to the counseling?

55:50 Caller Well, I mean, we were separated for a while and kind of got back together.

55:58 Drew On the condition that he goes to a therapist?

56:00 Caller Well, yeah.

56:01 Drew That's the point we're making. That, that, that. That's all we're saying. It wasn't like he came to her one day and said, honey, I'd like to make it, strengthen our relationship, and explore the dynamics.

56:10 Adam It's so funny because I'm thinking, this doesn't sound like the kind of guy who'd be in couples therapy, and then I'm thinking, why's he in there? And by the way, what's he doing in there? It doesn't seem like he's doing anything. And then I realized he got sort of bent over a barrel and forced to go.

56:25 Sasha Alexander Well, you can tell she doesn't still have an understanding of him. How, you know, maybe not as much as she should if they're in couples therapy.

56:31 Adam Oh, she's doing the work for both of them. He's just hanging out. Matt?

56:35 Yeah, how's it going?

56:36 Adam You're 22, good.

56:37 Caller Yep, I saw you guys in UCSD two weeks ago.

56:40 Adam Oh, good times.

56:41 Caller The thing about team, I should say, the white Russian rapper.

56:45 Adam Oh, team. Yeah, thank you.

56:47 Caller But I need you guys to help me with a huge dilemma.

56:50 Adam All right.

56:51 Caller I've recently been going through some issues in bisexuality and I've never hit on a guy before. And I just kind of did this past week. And I had my friends send an anonymous letter to him. I know it's very middle school and all.

57:05 Drew Was somebody at school with you?

57:07 Caller Right. In a certain class. And so he delivered it to him in the back of the college classroom. And it said, you know, please, like, I'm this girl in the class. I'm interested in you. Please say if you're bi, gay, straight, blah, blah, blah. And then asked some other questions. So then he wrote back and he wrote, you know, I'm extremely straight. However, being gay is OK. And which made me well.

57:32 Drew How can one be extremely straight? But gay is OK.

57:36 Caller That's what I'm saying.

57:36 Drew You know, he thought he was writing to a girl.

57:39 Caller Right. And he had an earring.

57:40 Drew Well, wait a minute. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

57:43 Adam Well, you know, the gays, they have that chick writing. They're writing those big loops.

57:47 Drew He thought he was writing a letter back to a girl. I'm extremely straight, but if you're gay, that's fine. You see what he's saying? To a girl.

57:54 Adam I don't know. I don't know. I think what he's saying to that he may have been saying to the guy, I'm extremely straight, leave me alone, but don't freak out. It's cool if you're what you are.

58:05 Caller He thinks I'm the girl.

58:07 Drew He wrote it as a girl to him.

58:09 Caller Right. I wrote at the bottom, like the mystery girl who's looking at you.

58:12 Drew You love Susie. Okay. Then he goes, I'm very, very straight, but if you're gay, that's fine. That's fine. I'll deal with that. To a girl. Okay. I think how different that is. But they go different, that is, if it were a guy writing that. Right.

58:24 Adam Well, I'm not following your logic.

58:28 Drew Well, guys, hold on a second, man. Extremely straight.

58:34 Adam He thinks it's from a girl.

58:35 Drew But I like lesbians. That's what he's saying.

58:38 Adam But I'm cool with lesbians.

58:39 Drew Yeah. Not with gay males.

58:41 Adam No.

58:41 Drew Well, this guy wants to know if he should go talk to him as a gay man.

58:44 Adam That's the point. That ain't going to work. Right. Okay. You're a genius. Man.

58:50 Caller Yeah.

58:50 Adam Yeah. This ain't the guy.

58:52 Caller Right.

58:53 Adam He's straight. Extremely straight.

58:55 Caller Right. The thing is, then I felt really bad for hitting on him. Because he wrote back wanting a relationship.

59:03 Drew Not a relationship.

59:04 Adam Who do you think sent him the letter? Yeah.

59:06 Caller A girl.

59:06 What girl?

59:08 Caller Just mystery girl.

59:09 Drew But he has no-

59:10 Adam I think a guy really is that hard up that he wants a relationship with anyone who drops off a letter? Yeah.

59:15 Sasha Alexander How do you know he wants a relationship?

59:17 Caller Well, no. I wrote this long letter. There were other things in the letter.

59:20 Drew Look, he wants whatever. Don't worry. He's so straight. Liking lesbians is extra straight.

59:27 Adam Right.

59:27 Caller And he had his earring in the right ear, so I was questioning that too.

59:32 Adam Oh, is the right ear gay now? Yeah.

59:35 Caller That's what I heard.

59:36 Adam You know, I think all bets are off with the earring. The earring, god damn it, that's a good point. You idiots, you pussies out there, ruin the whole earring thing for the fags. It used to be the only way they could navigate. It was the only way they could sexually navigate. They were geniuses, the gays. They said, look, who the hell knows who's gay and who's not? There's eight or nine percent of us out here, and we don't know who's gay, and we're going to get beat up by all these straight guys for hitting on them. Okay, let's do the earring thing. You know, right side is gay and left is bi or both is whatever. They worked a very elaborate earring jewelry-oriented warning system out so they could navigate sexually and then all you other pussies started wearing earrings. You straight idiots started wearing earrings. And then the gays, their compass started spinning around. They couldn't know what to do anymore. Then they switched to bandanas. Yeah, hang the red one out. That means you're into sodomy and the brown one means you're like a felching guy.

1:00:43 Sasha Alexander Are you making that up?

1:00:44 Adam Oh, no, no, no. The bandanas mean a lot in the gay community.

1:00:47 Sasha Alexander I had no idea. Really?

1:00:48 Drew It means something.

1:00:50 Adam Yeah, but then now the gangbangers got with the bandanas and now the gays are going to get their ass kicked for the wrong colored bandanas. It's all a mess. They started with the earrings. They went to bandanas. Nothing has worked. They got to go with another one. They just got to get t-shirts made up that says like, I blow do. It's like, are you in? Idiot. I swear, I don't trust these guys.

1:01:11 Drew Which guys?

1:01:11 Adam The earring guys. They screwed it up for the gays. My gay brethren. Yeah, they did. They're all confused now. Because this guy's got to-

1:01:19 Sasha Alexander They're confused. I think that's confused. Why would you wear an earring anyway if you were straight? Why would you wear an earring if somebody would possibly make it think that you're gay?

1:01:27 Adam Because it doesn't mean anything anymore. It used to mean something.

1:01:30 Drew What do you think they do it?

1:01:31 Adam For the look?

1:01:32 Drew Well, also sometimes being sort of-

1:01:34 Adam Why not?

1:01:35 Drew Gay males can be at the sort of cutting edge and help people sort of-

1:01:38 Adam I'm saying straight guys wear earrings now for the look and they don't realize the symbolism of it anymore.

1:01:45 Drew The history of the symbolism, yeah.

1:01:46 Adam They have no respect for the gays and their jewelry.

1:01:49 Caller Didn't the pirates start?

1:01:51 Adam Anderson brings up the pirates, yeah. But, you know, the gay lifestyle is the pirate lifestyle minus the shit. It really is. The scarves everywhere, you think of those big shirts with the big cuffs, the big draping cuffs and the big collars and those, a lot of velvet, a lot of use of velvet, tights, hanging out with the other guys, yo-ho-hoing around.

1:02:22 Sasha Alexander No women around.

1:02:23 Adam Yeah, ruffled collars, yeah, sure.

1:02:28 Drew It's not going.

1:02:28 Adam Michelle, that was the gay pioneers were the pirates.

1:02:34 Drew Michelle?

1:02:34 Adam That's how the gays spread around the world, through pirate ships.

1:02:38 Drew Michelle?

1:02:39 Caller Oh, she's asleep.

1:02:41 Adam Hello?

1:02:42 Drew Add us a little volume here.

1:02:42 Caller Listen.

1:02:47 Adam No, we can't hear. Black Bart, that's not a gay name, Bluebeard, come on, Blueboy, Bluebeard. Frankly, the same thing.

1:02:55 Drew Blackbeard.

1:02:57 Adam When they're Bluebeard or Blue something, there's Black Bart.

1:03:00 Drew Blackbeard's a guy, Bluebeard's a guy who used to tie his beard up in a fire when they went into battle.

1:03:05 Adam Yeah, see, Flamer. Flaming Queen. All right. Sarah?

1:03:11 Hi.

1:03:11 Adam You're 18.

1:03:12 Caller Yeah.

1:03:13 Adam What's up?

1:03:14 Caller I have a question about, I've been with my boyfriend for about two and a half years. I'm nervous.

1:03:19 Adam All right.

1:03:19 Caller I'm sorry.

1:03:20 Adam That's all right.

1:03:21 Caller Anyway, I've been with him for about two and a half years, and I've cheated on him. I don't really know how many times which is really dumb, but-

1:03:27 Drew What do you mean cheat? Does he have sex with you?

1:03:29 Caller No, it's not always sex. It's been like, well, most of the time, but something like his-

1:03:33 Drew Why are you still with this guy?

1:03:35 Caller Well, I love him. It's really weird.

1:03:37 Drew Not bad.

1:03:38 Caller No.

1:03:38 Drew Why are you still with him?

1:03:39 Caller Because I like him.

1:03:40 Caller Well, he's still with me.

1:03:41 Caller I guess that's why.

1:03:42 Drew Okay. You're afraid to leave him, afraid he'll destroy him or something?

1:03:46 Caller Kind of, but not really. I mean, my question really is if you think our relationship would work out ever, because he's really cool with it most of the time. He tells me it was not.

1:03:54 Drew He's cool with your cheating?

1:03:56 Caller Yeah. I mean, he's still with me and everything.

1:03:57 Drew He knows about it?

1:03:58 Caller Yeah.

1:03:59 Sasha Alexander He knows about all of it?

1:04:00 Caller Yeah. I tell him everything that happens.

1:04:02 Drew Are you trying to get rid of him?

1:04:03 Caller No. I want to be with him forever.

1:04:05 Drew Don't you think this is an ironic way to treat somebody you really care about?

1:04:08 Caller Yeah. It doesn't make sense to me. I'm really confused.

1:04:11 Drew Well, your behavior, your body is telling you one thing and your brain is telling you another.

1:04:15 Adam Does he live that pirate lifestyle? He could be gay.

1:04:19 Caller No, no. He has done stuff with guys before.

1:04:21 Adam Nope. That's gay.

1:04:22 Caller Just once, he said. He always talks about how he's feminine. You know what he told me? He told me he only had one ovary or something. He was born with an ovary. I think he's messing with me.

1:04:32 Drew He's messing with you.

1:04:33 Caller I don't know.

1:04:34 Drew But he's telling you something.

1:04:36 Caller I don't know.

1:04:37 Caller What I want to know is if you think our relationship would work out.

1:04:39 Drew This is not good. This is not good.

1:04:41 Caller Every two months he comes up and he'll be like, he'll trip out all of a sudden and start crying.

1:04:46 Drew Yeah, the whole thing is a mess. Sarah, this is all a mess.

1:04:49 Adam What's up with you, sweetie?

1:04:51 Caller I know, I know. But I'm trying not to do it anymore.

1:04:53 Caller You know what I mean?

1:04:55 Adam You've cheated, like what, a dozen times?

1:04:57 Caller I guess. But it was a while ago.

1:04:59 Drew Look, you're just not into this guy.

1:05:01 Caller Yeah, I totally am.

1:05:02 Drew No.

1:05:03 Adam Okay, here, I'm going to give you two choices, Sarah. And there's also C, actually. A, you're not into this guy. B, you're really effed up.

1:05:16 Caller That's probably it.

1:05:17 Adam Okay, or C, both. So you're into this guy and you're really effed up.

1:05:23 Caller Well, I used to be kind of a slut, obviously. But I mean, he's helped me out a lot and told me what relationships are about and everything. And he's like helped me out a lot about that.

1:05:32 Drew Were you like a foster child or a street person or something?

1:05:35 Caller No. I just, I just done a lot of stupid stuff.

1:05:38 Adam Were you abused?

1:05:39 Caller No, I was. Yeah, I was.

1:05:41 Caller But I said that.

1:05:42 Adam Yeah. That's what it sounds like. You're just acting out all over the place.

1:05:46 Caller It's really just when I get drunk and he's not around. I'd call people all the time.

1:05:50 Sasha Alexander Then don't get drunk.

1:05:51 Caller I know, but I can't. But so you don't think it would work out ever. I mean.

1:05:56 Drew It just sounds like a mess right now. Unless there is some substantial change for both of you. Like you get in a recovery program or somebody gets treated.

1:06:04 Caller You think we'd have to do something that...

1:06:06 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:06:07 Adam Yeah, we're talking fine and Jesus kind of.

1:06:08 Drew Yeah, there has to be substantial change here.

1:06:11 Adam Yeah. Real life cramping kinds of change.

1:06:14 Caller Well, that's not what I wanted to hear, but I guess so.

1:06:17 Adam Listen, Sarah, what's up? Have you got any counseling?

1:06:22 Caller Well, my dad's taken me before, I guess, but it wasn't for this or anything.

1:06:26 Adam You're pretty whacked out, right?

1:06:28 Caller No.

1:06:30 Adam You are.

1:06:30 Caller People always say, but I don't know.

1:06:32 Adam Listen to them.

1:06:33 Drew Yeah, we've known you for two minutes and we know they're right. You tell us this awful story about this terribly dysfunctional relationship and your expectation is we're going to give it a blessing? I think how disconnected from reality that is.

1:06:46 Adam Who abused you? Your stepdad?

1:06:48 Caller Yeah. For how long?

1:06:50 Caller I lived with him from the time I was five until I was 13.

1:06:54 Drew He abused you all that time?

1:06:55 Adam Yeah. That's a serious, serious situation.

1:07:00 Sasha Alexander Have you dealt with that at all?

1:07:02 Caller No. He calls here and talks to my brother all the time because that's his dad. He'll still go off on me. Like I hit my little brother the other day, he's like, you should never put your hands on him. I'm like, what the hell? He used to do it to me all the time. I mean, he calls here and threatens me all the time, so it's really weird.

1:07:16 Adam Where are you? At your dad's place now?

1:07:18 No, with my mom.

1:07:20 Caller I got a divorce.

1:07:20 Adam Okay. Thank your mom for bringing Mr. Abusive into the house. She's a dynamite lady, I'm sure.

1:07:27 Caller It was all good until he hit her and then it was over, you know.

1:07:30 Adam Right. It was fine with her to sexually abuse her daughter for all those years.

1:07:35 Drew Yeah, but don't touch me.

1:07:36 Caller Not sexually.

1:07:38 Adam Yeah. Your mom, okay. Everything's a mess. You got to get counseling.

1:07:43 Caller But you know what?

1:07:44 Adam What?

1:07:44 Caller Let me say one more thing. But he tells me that he loves me and everything's fine and everything, so.

1:07:50 Drew Everything is not fine.

1:07:52 Adam Sarah, don't you dare get pregnant.

1:07:56 Caller Well, he wants me to get pregnant.

1:07:58 Drew No.

1:07:59 Adam No.

1:07:59 Sasha Alexander Don't get pregnant.

1:08:00 Caller One time I thought I was pregnant and he started to touch my stomach. I think he does it on purpose. He's all like, oh, little Steve, and oh my God. I don't know.

1:08:07 Adam Listen, if you had a kid, that kid would be better off shot out of one of those water balloon launchers, into the Grand Canyon, than it would with you two as parents. Do you hear me? Don't you get pregnant, screwball. You better use some birth control.

1:08:25 Drew That's the one thing you can do right.

1:08:27 Caller I'm scared I'll get fat. I'm not doing that.

1:08:29 Adam Don't get pregnant.

1:08:30 Drew How fat do you think you're going to get when you're pregnant?

1:08:32 Adam That's what she's saying.

1:08:33 Drew No, she doesn't want to go on birth control.

1:08:34 Adam No, no, that's not what she said. Sarah, what did you say?

1:08:39 Drew About getting fat?

1:08:40 Caller Oh yeah, that's why I don't want to take it.

1:08:42 Drew Take the pill.

1:08:44 Sasha Alexander Take the pill. They don't all make you fat, Sarah. You got to find the one that's right for you.

1:08:47 Drew Take the Depo Provera shot.

1:08:48 Caller That won't make you fat.

1:08:50 Drew Take the Depo Provera shot. It doesn't make you fat.

1:08:53 Adam Get yourself some help, would you?

1:08:55 Caller Sure, I'll try.

1:08:57 Adam For you and for the country.

1:08:59 Sasha Alexander Okay, thank you.

1:09:00 Adam Thank you. I'd like to kill her stepdad.

1:09:03 Sasha Alexander Oh my God.

1:09:03 Adam I'd like to kill that guy. I'd like to kill him. You know why I'd like to kill him? First off, just generally, I'm looking for an excuse to kill somebody. Secondly, because Sarah, the legacy that he has left behind, that Sarah whose head is spinning like a dreidel...

1:09:21 Caller At five years old...

1:09:23 Adam .who's going to have a kid in a year and a half, who's going to be mama now, whose kid's head is going to be spinning like a dreidel, whose kid's going to go out and commit some horrible crimes or get pregnant, depending on what the gender is of the child and the stepdaddy.

1:09:38 Drew And listen, stepdad, you can be sure, didn't just spin his magic on her alone.

1:09:44 Adam No. Yeah. Yeah. He just... yeah. He liked that one five-year-old because she was super foxy. Jesus Christ. I just... when can we just... when is it okay just to put a bullet in someone's head? At what point? You got to have ten five-year-olds or is one enough? When do we deem you as a society is broken and just put you down? Okay. Guys, listen to me. You guys who are f-ing five-year-olds, kill yourself. Just please do that. In the name of society and humanity, just put a bullet in your head. That's fine. I feel sorry for you, but let's just do it. Take one for the team.

1:10:27 Drew All right.

1:10:27 Adam Sasha Alexander is, I guess, in Dawson Creek once a night. She plays Gretchen as Dawson's girlfriend. We'll take ourselves a little break. We'll be back after this.

1:10:37 Drew Hello? Is this Loveline?

1:10:39 Caller Call 1-800-LOVE-1-9-1. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.

1:11:02 Caller Ladies, I hope you're sitting down, because I'm about to tell you about a revolutionary new product called Isis. Isis will help tone, firm, and increase the size of your breasts naturally. Yes, Isis is a.

1:11:30 Adam Love Live from Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there, phone number 1-800-L-E-E-1-9-1. Sasha Alexander is our guest tonight from Dawson's Creek, which is Wednesday night. It's 8 o'clock, WWWB.

1:11:44 Sasha Alexander WWWB.

1:11:45 Adam WWWB. Sasha has to leave because she has an early call tomorrow. I wasn't aware that she had to leave.

1:11:52 Sasha Alexander All right, you don't have to get mad at me now.

1:11:54 Adam No, I'm not.

1:11:56 Sasha Alexander See, he's getting mad at me on air now.

1:11:57 Drew Now, who wait till you leave?

1:11:58 Adam No, I like it.

1:11:59 Sasha Alexander That's so unfair.

1:12:00 Adam No, and it is... It's not my fault. It's very fair. No, I will not get mad at you. Drew, please tell Sasha my take on Guess on the show.

1:12:10 Drew He hates having Guess and he would prefer no one bother him at night. He's just a dick. Right. However, someone that does come late or leave early, he will trash.

1:12:19 Adam I will not.

1:12:20 Sasha Alexander Okay, then I'll stay.

1:12:21 Adam No, you don't have to.

1:12:23 Sasha Alexander Then I'm going to have bags under my eyes in the morning. I was told to be here till 11.

1:12:27 Adam Okay.

1:12:28 Sasha Alexander I'm going to get the time now.

1:12:29 Adam You have an early call. That's no problem. Well...

1:12:33 Drew She has to run in the morning.

1:12:34 Adam Oh, jog in the morning?

1:12:35 Sasha Alexander I'm going to tie bow, actually. I'm just kidding. No, no, I work.

1:12:39 Adam Really? Okay. All right. All right. Well, your excuse. I won't say anything bad about you.

1:12:44 Drew We want to solve this one. We're going to talk about how gay males identify themselves.

1:12:47 Sasha Alexander Yeah, we're going to listen to this call.

1:12:49 Adam Oh, well, now wait a second.

1:12:50 Sasha Alexander This is the earring conversation.

1:12:51 Adam Here's the way we got to do this. Either Sasha leaves now, or she's got to stay for another, like, eight minutes. Seven or eight minutes.

1:13:00 Sasha Alexander I'm staying the eight minutes.

1:13:01 Adam No, but you can leave now if you want. Honestly, no hard feelings. Absolutely not.

1:13:05 Sasha Alexander No problem.

1:13:05 Adam Okay. All right. Mike?

1:13:08 Caller Yeah, how you doing?

1:13:09 Adam You're 27.

1:13:10 Sasha Alexander Yeah, yeah.

1:13:11 Caller We were just talking about this today. My buddy was in New York a while ago, and he said he went out to a restaurant, and he wore a shirt with two pockets on the front, and all these gay guys were hitting on him. I think they resorted to these really obscure things. I don't know.

1:13:25 Drew The obscure sort of markings.

1:13:28 Adam Well, maybe it was just a real snappy shirt, and that's what attracted the gays. They're like moths. They see a lot of color, a lot of bright fabric. They'll come buzzing around.

1:13:37 Caller Was it tight?

1:13:39 Caller I don't think so.

1:13:40 Adam Okay. Is that it there, Mike?

1:13:43 Caller Yeah, that's all.

1:13:43 Adam Thanks, Mike. Thanks. God bless you. I still don't think the two pockets mean anything.

1:13:49 Drew No, I don't either.

1:13:50 Adam That's too much. There's too many guys with two pockets. But yet the gays have to work something else out.

1:13:55 Sasha Alexander Who's wearing two pockets? Are you? No, just one.

1:13:57 Adam Maybe I'll work it out. I saw the West, the Hollywood Sheriff's Department with the scattered gay flag on the side of the door. Those poor sons of bitches. I felt so bad for them today. I saw them. The Sheriff's Department handles, is it the Sheriff's Department that handles sort of Boys Town here?

1:14:15 Drew I don't know. West Hollywood.

1:14:17 Adam West Hollywood. Santa Monica, that area there. And if you look at the side of the car, it's got the gay flag on the side of it, but it's not the gay flag. It's a sort of mosaic with all the colors of the gay flag that's on there.

1:14:29 Sasha Alexander What is the gay flag? I thought it was a triangle.

1:14:31 Adam Well, that's sort of the gay shape.

1:14:33 Sasha Alexander Gay shape?

1:14:34 Adam It's ironic that it's a triangle, isn't it? But I think they have it.

1:14:37 Sasha Alexander It's a pink triangle.

1:14:38 Adam I think they have it turned over the other direction. It's a pyramid or something. But that is the gay shape, the triangle. But the gay colors or that flag, it's kind of like the Jamaican flag or something. It's got a whole bunch of different colors on it. And it's the same colors that the cop cars have over there in West LA. No, not the cars themselves. They have the sticker added to the door, which the gay community probably forced them to do. But the cops probably wouldn't want to put the gay flag on the side of the car. Yeah. So they compromised and they just jumbled it up. Here's what it looks like. If you took a puzzle of an American flag and had a six-year-old build it and screw it up, that's what it now looks like. Now, the cops look like idiots. No one knows it's the gay flag. And everyone's happy.

1:15:28 Sasha Alexander Why would the cops have to put that on their thing anyway?

1:15:30 Adam Because that's their area. And I'm sure they've been getting their feet held to the fire by the gay community in the area that they service.

1:15:39 Drew All right.

1:15:39 Adam You see what I'm saying?

1:15:40 Drew Julie. Julie?

1:15:43 Hi.

1:15:43 Adam You're 19.

1:15:44 Caller Yes.

1:15:45 Adam What's up?

1:15:46 Caller I just went to a store and I bought myself a dildo. And I've never really tried to please myself before. And when I did, it's like a vibrator, you know, and...

1:16:00 Adam Well, that ain't a dildo.

1:16:02 Caller Or whatever. A dildo plus a vibrator. It's like there's two, you know, there's an additional vibrator that is attached to the dildo.

1:16:11 Adam Oh, I see.

1:16:12 Caller Okay, so, I'm laying this vibrator on my clitoris. And for about three seconds, I have it sitting there. And then right away, there's just an explosion of, you know, I'm not sure what, but I thought maybe it might be... Urine? I don't know what's going on. I don't know. But I would do this, like, eight times in a row. And I don't understand what is going on. I don't know what it is. It smells like urine. And it's only, like, I'll just let it sit there for three or four seconds, and I'll just go. And I, you know...

1:16:54 Drew Are you having an orgasm?

1:16:56 Caller Well, I mean, it feels good, but it's like, it feels like I'm going pee.

1:17:01 Drew You could be going pee. That's possible.

1:17:04 Caller Okay, so...

1:17:05 Drew I mean, that happened.

1:17:06 Adam Did the thing short out or anything?

1:17:08 Yeah, I thought the vibrator exploded.

1:17:11 Adam Yeah, I thought it did it first, too.

1:17:14 Drew She exploded.

1:17:15 Adam So you exploded.

1:17:16 Caller No, I exploded.

1:17:18 Adam That's it.

1:17:18 Caller And I don't understand why... Am I coming or...

1:17:24 Adam How many times have you used this thing now?

1:17:26 Caller I've used it about five times.

1:17:29 Adam Yeah, in the last 11 hours?

1:17:31 Drew She bought it about an hour ago.

1:17:32 Caller No, I've used it in the past like two weeks, and every time I can come, or whatever, about six times in a row.

1:17:41 Caller Wow.

1:17:43 Adam Well, you ought to write the company a letter. Maybe you can do a commercial.

1:17:46 Caller What I mean, it's... I don't know if it's like...

1:17:50 Drew It's all good, Julie. It's fine.

1:17:51 Adam They're always looking for those testimonials from honest, hard-working folk, you know.

1:17:55 Drew Julie, it's fine.

1:17:56 Caller But listen, my friend went and bought the rabbit, also it's called the white rabbit.

1:18:00 Adam The white rabbit.

1:18:01 Caller And she went and bought it, and she said the same thing. She's like, Amber, when I did this, I felt like I was shitting all over my bed.

1:18:09 Adam Yeah.

1:18:10 Drew Julie, I mean Amber.

1:18:11 Adam Amber?

1:18:12 Caller Huh?

1:18:12 Adam First off, Drew had something called the brown hamster. And he had almost the same results. Did you not, Drew?

1:18:22 Caller What? I'm sorry.

1:18:23 Drew I'm totally exploded.

1:18:24 Adam So, you ever do that movie, you go, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hand. I don't, okay, well. Nothing up my fallopian.

1:18:32 Sasha Alexander She sounds happy.

1:18:32 Caller I just want to know what you guys.

1:18:34 Adam You're good. You're fine.

1:18:35 Drew It's normal, Amber.

1:18:37 Sasha Alexander Enjoy it.

1:18:38 Adam Yes, yes. You're doing, but don't, this isn't life, you understand.

1:18:43 Drew Yeah.

1:18:43 Adam Don't get too hooked on it.

1:18:44 Drew Don't expect this from men.

1:18:46 Adam It's the same speech you have to give your kids before you go into Disneyland.

1:18:49 Drew Right.

1:18:49 Adam Which is, this is good, but we have to leave at a certain point. Don't get too freaked out. This is not the way life is. She's going to be ruined. She'll ruin herself with that thing.

1:19:01 Caller The white rabbit.

1:19:02 Adam Hey, there's a lot of stuff out there, ladies. There really is, but I mean, it's, it's, you walk a, it's a slippery slope, those vibrators. You get into that, you may never come back. You understand? The penis may, may be rendered obsolete. Jessica?

1:19:20 Caller Yes.

1:19:21 Adam You're 22.

1:19:22 Caller Yes.

1:19:24 Caller Okay. This is like really hard.

1:19:26 Caller I've been living with my boyfriend for about a year and a half. I'm six months pregnant now, and everything's been fine pretty much the whole time. I'm pretty hassle-free girlfriend. I let him do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. I don't question him. We have like a really good like trust in each other. Three days ago, it was about three days ago, he came home from being out, and I was sleeping and whatever. I mean, I'm always tired from living pregnant. I get up in the morning, and we're getting ready for our day or whatnot. He had his shirt off and everything. I'm like, what is that? What looked like a hickey on his neck? I swear to God, I don't know.

1:20:07 Drew Well, one thing that happened in the third trimester of pregnancy is women feel very vulnerable. They feel very much...

1:20:13 Caller I'm so emotional, and I'm usually not...

1:20:15 Drew That and the risk for abandonment and helpless, and you need the guy around, you need to make... He needs to make you feel secure. Has he been really paying attention to you lately?

1:20:24 Caller It's been really hard because I had to take a leave of absence.

1:20:27 Caller I'm usually a cocktail waitress.

1:20:29 Drew Don't be defending him so much. He needs to come to your attention right now. He needs to pay attention to make you feel secure.

1:20:35 Adam What do you think that Hickey was?

1:20:38 Caller It looked like a Hickey to me. I'm not stupid.

1:20:40 Drew What did he say?

1:20:42 Caller Okay, he woke me up when he came home. He was drunk. He ran into the wall when he was coming into the room.

1:20:49 Caller He missed the doorway and hit the wall.

1:20:51 Caller I'm not defending him because I'm the first to be like, forget that. You've had too much to drink.

1:20:56 Caller Whatever.

1:20:56 Caller If you can't handle yourself, don't be drinking because things are going to happen.

1:21:00 Caller I'm not even getting that as an excuse.

1:21:03 Drew But maybe that may have made a mark on his skin.

1:21:06 Adam So he's claiming hitting the wall did it?

1:21:08 Caller No, he didn't even claim that.

1:21:09 Caller He says he doesn't know. Okay, this is another thing.

1:21:12 Caller If that was a hickey.

1:21:14 Adam Hold on a second.

1:21:15 Caller Okay, wait.

1:21:16 Sasha Alexander Why is she pregnant? Why is he out drinking coming home hitting walls?

1:21:20 Adam Why is she telling us the goddamn wall story that's going in? It's like effing roots this wall story. And we're asking her what he said about the hickey, right?

1:21:30 Drew Right. He didn't know what it was. He didn't know what he was doing there. But she saw, witnessed him walking into a wall, so maybe that's where it came from.

1:21:37 Adam I don't think that was her angle at all, though. What was his reply to the hickey?

1:21:43 Caller He was like, he didn't know it was there.

1:21:47 Caller He had his shirt off and he was like, where?

1:21:49 Adam Could he not?

1:21:50 Caller And he was like, oh, do I have like, because he was like really self-conscious about skin. He doesn't have bad skin or anything, but.

1:21:55 Adam He could not offer any kind of explanation?

1:21:58 Caller I do not know.

1:21:59 Caller And he goes, nothing.

1:22:01 Caller He's like, I don't know what it could be.

1:22:02 Caller He didn't deny it, but then he didn't agree.

1:22:05 Adam Where was he the night before?

1:22:07 Caller The House of Blues.

1:22:08 Adam Aha.

1:22:10 Caller But he was with a really good friend of ours.

1:22:12 Caller And he was with him the whole night. And I, okay, I called him.

1:22:15 Caller I'm like, I don't want to be psycho or anything.

1:22:16 Caller But I'm just going to call because I know he'll be honest with me.

1:22:18 Caller I mean, and I go, you know, you know, so-and-so, you know, were you with first of all, because I thought maybe he was live.

1:22:24 Caller Maybe he wasn't even there.

1:22:25 Adam All right. So he was. The story checked out.

1:22:28 Caller His story totally checked out.

1:22:29 Adam All right. Well, he got loaded and he was driving, wrestling with the seatbelt or something on the way home. And that's what happened.

1:22:37 Drew What you need, though, to communicate to him, though, is that you need him to be at home available and make you feel more secure at this time. All right.

1:22:43 Adam There you go. That's it.

1:22:44 Caller Listen to this, or it gets extra bad.

1:22:46 Caller Okay, so now, we're moving out.

1:22:49 Caller He needs to move out. We're under too much stress.

1:22:52 Drew In a sentence, what is extra bad?

1:22:55 Caller Okay, well...

1:22:55 Adam He's moving out from you?

1:22:57 Caller Yeah. Like, so I'm moving out and he's moving out.

1:22:59 Caller This is what he needs. He needs space. And I'm like, well, I told him in the beginning, get the hell on. If you don't want to deal with this, I'll be fine. I'm a strong person. I'm by myself. I don't need you. You know?

1:23:10 Drew Well, your child needs him.

1:23:11 Adam Well, that may be-

1:23:11 Caller Yeah, well, when I know that and I said that, I said, you know, all I'm going to need from you is for this baby to have a daddy. I'll be fine. Don't worry about me.

1:23:18 Adam Well, isn't that kind of staying in the relationship, that baby having a daddy?

1:23:23 Caller No, yeah.

1:23:23 Caller And then he's just trying to be really, you know-

1:23:26 Adam Okay.

1:23:26 Caller We were talking and he was crying and-

1:23:28 Adam All right. Jessica, you got some issues floating around in that brain of yours and you pretending like you don't need him for anything is not a good angle because you do need him for something because you've been very upset about this. You're talking my ear off. So admit that it's okay-

1:23:45 Drew Painful.

1:23:46 Adam To be with a guy and to be intimate and to be open to that. And don't be so strong. I mean, you're coming across like like a guy really. She just wanted to admit it and God knows what's up with her dad when he split and when he abandoned the family. God who have abandoned.

1:24:07 Caller Oh yeah.

1:24:07 Adam You believe it?

1:24:08 Caller Oh yeah. All right.

1:24:09 Adam Real fast. Jessica? Your dad?

1:24:11 Caller He passed away four years ago.

1:24:14 Drew After he'd been out of your life for ten years?

1:24:16 Caller My parents split up when I was six.

1:24:18 Drew And did you have any contact with him after that?

1:24:20 Caller Yeah.

1:24:20 Caller I got to see him every summer. My dad was great.

1:24:22 Drew Every summer? Every summer.

1:24:24 Caller Yeah, it was summer.

1:24:25 Drew Hang on. Relax.

1:24:26 Adam All right. But he wasn't abusive.

1:24:29 Caller You guys are always right on those.

1:24:30 Caller I mean, I was abused, but it wasn't by my dad.

1:24:32 Caller It was by the stepdad.

1:24:34 Drew Nice. Very nice.

1:24:36 Adam OK, Jessica. Listen, baby. Help yourself so you can help your child. All right, mama? Please.

1:24:43 Drew And it's never going to work. By putting the child up for adoption.

1:24:45 Adam We got to go to Canada. We're going to Canada. All right. I want to thank Sasha for coming in here tonight and doing a wonderful job and sticking with us. So longer than she needed to.

1:24:56 Sasha Alexander You're not mad at me?

1:24:57 Adam No, not at all.

1:24:57 Sasha Alexander You'll forgive me.

1:24:58 Drew No, he's impressed.

1:24:59 Adam Yeah, absolutely.

1:25:01 Sasha Alexander Good.

1:25:01 Adam Yeah.

1:25:01 Sasha Alexander I had a lot of fun. Thank you guys.

1:25:03 Adam I only think about myself. So I just don't I just don't have time for others. Right, Drew?

1:25:09 Drew That's actually right.

1:25:10 Adam Dawson's Creek, Wednesday Night, Debbi B, everybody. Debbi, Debbi, Debbi B. We'll take a little break.

1:25:15 Drew Bye.

1:25:15 Caller We'll be back after this.

1:25:18 Caller Love Line, Love Line, we'll be right back.

1:25:49 Adam Yeah, oh, you pointed at me. You know, Anderson, you gave a move. It was like a jab. It was so lightning fast.

1:25:58 Drew I like to mix it up, man.

1:26:00 Adam Yeah, he's really ninja-esque in those movements. You don't see his hand move. You know, when Anderson, when he points at me, it's like you just feel the air move.

1:26:18 Drew The flick.

1:26:19 Adam Yeah, you just see the vibrations in the air. You don't actually see any hand movement.

1:26:23 Drew Do mushrooms tonight or something?

1:26:24 Adam It's got that kind of speed.

1:26:26 Drew Jen?

1:26:27 Yeah?

1:26:28 Adam You're 17?

1:26:29 Caller Yeah.

1:26:30 Adam What's up, Toots?

1:26:31 Caller Well, my boyfriend is angry with me because I cried during orgasm.

1:26:37 Drew Good cry or bad cry?

1:26:39 Caller Bad cry.

1:26:40 Caller Why?

1:26:41 Caller I don't know. That's kind of why I'm calling you.

1:26:45 Drew Because some women cry it's a good thing. That's sort of a release. Others cry because it triggers some memory or some association with painful abuse from the past.

1:26:56 Caller Well, it's uncontrollable and my boyfriend's pretty mad about it and I just can't seem to stop.

1:27:03 Adam He's mad that you're crying?

1:27:05 Caller Yeah, it upsets him.

1:27:08 Adam How old is he?

1:27:10 Caller He's 25.

1:27:12 Adam You're 17?

1:27:13 Caller Yeah.

1:27:14 Adam That ain't right. And he's mad? I don't like this guy.

1:27:19 Drew What are you doing with a guy that is so much older than you? Well, he's a great relationship.

1:27:27 Caller I mean, I love him to death.

1:27:31 Drew What is great about him?

1:27:33 Caller Just the way he is. Just an attraction. I mean, he's a great guy.

1:27:39 Drew You may be very, very attracted to him and it could be an awful relationship.

1:27:44 Adam What does he do for a living?

1:27:46 Caller Well, he works at a zippy lube.

1:27:50 Adam Are you serious?

1:27:52 Caller Yeah.

1:27:52 Adam All right. This thing is going nowhere. I don't trust him. I don't trust a 25-year-old guy who is going out with a 17-year-old. That's flawed.

1:28:01 Drew No kidding.

1:28:03 Adam I'm sure, emotionally, he's 15. He's probably got that nice 30 weight between his ears. But I don't like this guy. I don't like the fact that he's getting angry because you're crying during orgasm. That doesn't bother you at all?

1:28:17 Caller Well, it upsets me because he's annoyed by it.

1:28:23 Adam Why would you? Would you have any reason to cry?

1:28:27 Caller Well, I can't think of any, but-

1:28:31 Adam Never your life's good. It's always been good?

1:28:35 Caller Yeah.

1:28:40 Adam Well, hey, Speedy. Hello? Jen. Yeah? Your dad, how's he doing? Is he a good guy?

1:28:48 Caller Well, he left a long time ago when I was very young, when I was about three. I don't really have any memories of him.

1:28:56 Drew How about your stepdad?

1:28:58 Caller Well, he married my mom, and he was really abusive, but that's kind of, you know, I worked it all out, and, you know, it doesn't go on anymore.

1:29:12 Adam How did you work it all out?

1:29:15 Caller Well, it just stopped once I...

1:29:17 Drew How did you work it out?

1:29:19 Caller It...

1:29:21 Caller I don't know. I just got old enough, and he just...

1:29:23 Drew Yeah, that's not working it out. That's him stopping the abuse.

1:29:26 Adam He got old enough, and he couldn't hold you down anymore?

1:29:29 Caller Yeah, pretty much.

1:29:30 Drew That's not working it out.

1:29:31 Adam That was sexual abuse?

1:29:33 Caller Uh, yeah.

1:29:34 Adam Yeah, well, that's why you're crying. Yeah? Of course. Hey, Jen?

1:29:40 Caller Yeah?

1:29:41 Adam Really, does it take a great mind to do this kind of math, emotionally?

1:29:48 Caller Well, also, I kind of had a step-brother that would kind of, you know, I really think he was also abused by my step-dad.

1:30:02 Drew Of course. They tend to be equal opportunity abusers.

1:30:06 Caller Yeah.

1:30:07 Adam Hey, Jen, you got to get a little therapy. Can you do that? Can you get some help for yourself?

1:30:12 Caller Yeah.

1:30:13 Adam Please do that. Oh, and please don't get pregnant.

1:30:17 Caller Oh, I won't.

1:30:19 Adam How will you not get pregnant?

1:30:21 Caller Well, I use a condom all the time, and I'm a spermacidic.

1:30:25 Drew Yeah, well, keep the morning after pill around, because the spermicide won't do crap. And if that condom breaks, you want to be able to take that morning after pill as soon as possible. Not the RU-46, the Prevent or the Plan B.

1:30:36 Adam I'll tell you, when I'm in charge, I'm going to hunt step-dads like they hunt nutria in New Orleans. Do you understand? I'll get a posse together. I'm going after step-dads. And I'm going to make some quick... I'm going to deputize my whole posse. And I'm going to give them up. I'm just going to give them up. I'm going to let them make decisions out on the street. Snap decisions. I'll give them that power. Judge, jury and executioner. It's just bang on the door. They see that pickup truck with the gun rack and the bondo on the fender and the guy answers the door and is underpants.

1:31:13 Drew They can start operating by their own rules.

1:31:14 Adam It's just, just put a gun right under his chin. From doing this show, I'm now convinced that 70 to 90 percent of step-dads physically or sexually abuse their step-children. Dale?

1:31:29 Caller Yeah?

1:31:29 Adam No. And this 25 year old who's dating or has got a real piece of work. Stop your crying, honey. Let me hump you some more.

1:31:38 Caller Hey, what's going on?

1:31:39 Caller Hey, Dale.

1:31:40 Caller Yeah, my girlfriend left me. She took my daughter away from me because I caught her smoking pot in front of my daughter. See, I went off on her and her friends for doing that. And her friends decided that I was this big A-hole, so, you know.

1:31:54 Adam What do you mean, went off?

1:31:56 Caller Well, you know, I called all her friends, told them to get out of my house, all that stuff, so. So, after two days, she took my daughter while I was at work and took everything, moved back with her parents, where she was, I know she was physically abused, but she told me she was sexually abused.

1:32:15 Drew By the dad?

1:32:16 Caller Yeah, by her dad.

1:32:17 Drew Well, you gotta report that.

1:32:19 Caller Yeah, I went down to take her to court for joint custody.

1:32:23 Drew You gotta report that to make sure nothing happens to your daughter now.

1:32:26 Caller I'm afraid they won't believe me because her mom's head of social services, which it really sucks. Her mom knows that she was physically abused, but she never said anything about therapy for him or anything. I think her mom's probably hiding because I think she knows about the sexual stuff. My ex-girlfriend, she's got scars on her wrist where she tries to kill herself. She's been on Prozac, Paxil, Prednisone.

1:32:50 Adam How old is your daughter?

1:32:52 Caller Two and a half.

1:32:55 Adam Listen, I'm sorry this has been done, but please guys, stop knocking up these crazy broads. In the name of humanity, stop it.

1:33:04 Caller We were fine until, you know, I don't mind people smoke pot, but I didn't want to hurt my daughter.

1:33:10 Adam Okay, but on behalf of your daughter, Dale, you got to try to make it up. Really, get into some counseling. Please, parents, please, please put your troubles and your neuroses aside and your drama aside for five minutes and take care of your goddamn kids.

1:33:32 Drew Just do it for a few years, you know?

1:33:34 Adam That's tolerant. I mean, literally, five minutes. We'll be back.

1:33:41 Caller Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:34:12 Adam There you go, another fantabulous loveline in the can. I want to thank Sasha Alexander for coming in here tonight from Dawson's Creek. And next week, Mad TV, New Found Glory, Jamie Pressley, Bill Maher, that's the week after Temptation Island reunion, my favorite male vocalist, Dicky from The Ballstones, Jake Busey will be in here. Good times, everyone. I want to thank a little Lauren for doing a great job on the phones. I want to thank, who else? Sarah for doing a great job on the phones. I gotta be honest, producer Sam was only mediocre this week. Did some good booking, but dropped the ball a time or two on some of the things in here in the studio.

1:34:54 Drew And Anderson?

1:34:55 Adam Anderson was stellar. Anderson was magnificent as usual. So, until next time. I'm Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. You know, I don't get lubricated until my boyfriend goes down on me.

1:35:08 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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