Episode 1000754887061

1:01 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, coast to coast.

1:12 Now get ready for hot, horny judgements.

1:14 Drew Yes, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. This is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-44-55. Dr. Drew is a board certified physician. And addiction medicine specialist. I just shot my wad. That's how you're done. I got up at 7 this morning. I've been drinking since 6.45. I started drinking while I was 15 minutes before I woke up. I went to Vegas this morning to do a couple episodes of a say what karaoke Vegas style. You know you've arrived by the way. Murphy and Mark McGrath are both here from the fabulous Sugar Ray and I'm glad because they're going to carry the show.

1:47 Adam Good evening, gentlemen. Good evening.

1:49 Drew I know I complain a lot about this, but I want you guys, you guys are celebrities and you do a lot of traveling and you got to help me with this because Drew's no help and neither of the guys ever talked to. But here's how it works. Car comes and picks me up at 730 this morning to take me to LAX. When I get out of the car, I give the guy 20 bucks. Then I go from the airport in Vegas to the Luxor Hotel. That guy drops me off. I float him 20 bucks. Now I go do say what karaoke, eat a buffet, take a nap, blow Jimmy Kimmel, eat another buffet to get the taste of Jimmy out of me.

2:23 Adam I thought it was just me.

2:24 Drew Now it's back into the car and back from the Luxor to the Vegas Hotel. What's the guy get? 20 bucks. Okay, they're all different drivers all the way.

2:32 Sugar Ray Now, 20 bucks, 20 bucks, 20 bucks. No, no, he's right.

2:35 Drew Now I'm in Vegas and I go to LAX. I get the ride from LAX. Now here's the bigger twist. The dude who meets you at the gate, he ain't driving you.

2:43 Adam Oh yeah, but that's how they connive you, man.

2:45 Drew He says, Mr. Corolla, you're looking very good, Mr. Corolla. You like me to take that bag? No, give me that bag.

2:49 Adam It's like a tiny bag with a small magazine in it.

2:52 Drew The bag to me represents 20 more dollars. Yeah, exactly. I'll kick that goddamn bag across the airport before I let him take it. I don't care if I got a bad hip, I'm dragging the bag. He goes, give me the bag. I'm like, no, I'll take the bag. So I'm like, are you driving me? No, I'll walk you to the curb.

3:06 Sugar Ray He's the greeter.

3:07 Drew Now there's more money.

3:08 Sugar Ray He's the greeter and he needs to be tipped too. That's right.

3:10 Drew He's like the ex-champ that stands out front of the casino. Tells you where the slots are. Now I got to give him some. Now I'm standing out by the curb and here comes the guy. Now he's got to say, now he drops me off here. I'm going to get a new guy to drive me home tonight. I'm going to be out like 180 bucks. I didn't get paid. I didn't get paid anything for this. How does this work? I can't write this off. It's all cash. I don't want to be a prick. But can I give some sort of universal 20 for all of them?

3:34 Adam Absolutely.

3:35 Drew I agree with you.

3:35 Adam Because, you know, first of all, you go to the ATM and you take out, you know, hundreds, whatever. It's all in 20s. All right. So you don't see you always flip 20s. And I enjoy tipping. I mean, you know, you get a good service. You like to tip, but you get a good lap dance.

3:46 Drew You want to tip.

3:47 Adam And I do that as well.

3:48 Drew Got a guy drive you, you know, 200 yards.

3:51 Adam Then why do you do it, Adam? Because you're a nice guy.

3:53 What's the alternative?

3:54 Drew Because I because because, you know, I have the conversation with the guy and he starts talking about his kids and stuff. And I love your show. Yeah. You're taller in person.

4:03 Yeah.

4:05 Drew Do you lose weight? I don't know what to do. All I know is that I left my house. You know, I swear to Christ, I left my house 15 hours ago. I'm out 150 bucks.

4:17 Adam Tell me true. I got a secret for you, though.

4:19 Drew What is it?

4:19 Adam You can say, you know, I think the tip's included in the in the card. And if you want to get out, we's lost. Sometimes I have that dough and I said that. I felt really bad because I knew it wasn't.

4:26 Drew But you sound like a prick.

4:27 Adam You do. And I am. So what can I do?

4:28 Drew And every driver tells you the same thing. They go, well, it is included in.

4:33 Adam But if you enjoyed the service, you get that all the time.

4:37 Drew Yeah. What is it? We didn't go off the bridge on the way to the airport.

4:41 Adam We made it. We made it, right?

4:43 Drew Right.

4:43 Adam No, but dude, I couldn't concur more with you on this. Because this is like sort of, I don't leave the house unless I have 20s in my wallet. Because you have to tip all these guys. It's something I was raised to do. Probably only me and you right now are communicating on this level. But I totally agree.

4:58 Drew Thank you.

4:59 Adam And if you need the air, I'll share your strength.

5:01 Drew Daniel, the executive producer of The Man Show, always says to me, he's Mr. Huge, waitress, you know, he drops a fork and that busboy brings it over, he gives him 50 bucks. But he's one of these guys, he goes, listen, you don't tip big and word will get out that you're not a good tipper. But you know what I said, good, I'm ready to rent out a billboard. I don't want, what a horrible world to live in. People expecting, like, what if you're Sinatra and you only got five bucks? You're screwed.

5:29 Adam Yeah, but don't kid yourself, there's this thing called like tipping.com or something where like, you know, waitresses and people in LA and New York, they say, hey, you know, for instance, this hypothetical Rob Lowe was in here last night and only tipped me five bucks or something. I swear to God, it's on the Internet. They rat you out so hardcore, you know?

5:44 Anderson, get that tipping.com. Look up Adam Corolla.

5:47 Sugar Ray Tip Gus.

5:47 Adam Yeah, I'm not kidding you. So it's a real concern.

5:50 Mark McGrath.

5:51 Adam Look at me, man.

5:52 Sugar Ray Is that real?

5:52 Adam But look up Crazy Girls, man, because I tipped well in that place.

5:56 Drew Yeah.

5:57 Adam Can I say that?

5:58 Sugar Ray Depends on what you had in you.

5:59 Drew Yeah. All right. First time I've ever been to Vegas, I've gone to strip club, by the way.

6:03 Adam Oh, you're a liar.

6:04 Drew Yeah.

6:04 Adam Paradise called me today.

6:05 Drew No, I was there for like eight hours. I was at the buffet or the strip club.

6:10 Adam So you weren't lying when you said about the Say What karaoke thing.

6:12 Drew I know.

6:13 Adam I thought it was just like a good bid.

6:14 Sugar Ray I thought it was a good bid coming in.

6:16 Drew No, that's where my career is going. That's what I'm saying.

6:18 Adam Well, they didn't ask me, so you know where I'm at.

6:20 Drew I was, oh, your people just turned them down. They didn't want to insult you. That's what it was. We will not dignify that with an answer.

6:28 Adam Even though they play our songs in there. Okay, look at the time.

6:30 Drew All right, ready? Sugar Ray's not plugging anything. They're just hanging out.

6:34 Adam We're just here to hang. We're in the studio, though. Good.

6:35 Drew Murphy, did I see you on a MTV show, the Cribs show?

6:39 Sugar Ray Yeah, Cribs.

6:40 Drew And you did a tour of your house. You got the pool.

6:42 Sugar Ray Yeah.

6:43 Adam He's down on Costa Mesa, California.

6:44 Sugar Ray Costa Mesa, California. Mark, basically, I think they asked you and you didn't want to do it. You're like, do it at Murphy's.

6:48 Adam Well, because I don't have this like AJ from the Backstreet Boys' house, a very humble house. I don't either. Because I'm going to lose all my money in three years in Petty Ford. I'm preparing for that now.

6:55 Sugar Ray It kind of made sense because we're starting the record down there in a little studio in the garage. So we thought we did. We just figured, you know, hang out and just kind of do what we do. We lit the barbecue on fire and it was kind of fun.

7:04 Drew Yeah, I enjoyed it.

7:06 Adam I can tell you're overwhelmed.

7:07 You're like, great.

7:09 Drew I'm just tired from the flight. And I got a weird drinking thing on the plane going.

7:15 Adam And you're tired and weird.

7:16 Drew Weird buzz you get with your you got that compression in your head and you got this sign in areas in you. And it's kind of weird.

7:21 Adam Southwest thing.

7:22 Drew Fat guy sleeping. America West.

7:26 Adam You get the reverse seat on Southwest. You have to like table dance the guy in front of you. You know that one.

7:30 No, I don't.

7:31 Drew Plate foot seat.

7:32 Adam You know that seat.

7:33 Drew Yeah.

7:34 Adam The bar seat hung over seat on the way home.

7:35 Drew That's right. Yeah. Don't make the mistake I made. I wore the dolphin shorts with no underpants. It was a long flight for the guy sitting across from me.

7:44 Adam Rollerskates and dolphins.

7:46 Drew Sherry?

7:48 Yeah.

7:48 Drew You're 29. What's up?

7:51 Caller Thing is, the only way to get the ultimate climax for me, I have to hold my breath with my maybe Clare or-

8:04 Caller Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is this Mika?

8:07 Drew What language are you speaking?

8:08 Adam We sat here on a beer run years ago.

8:12 Drew Are you drunk, Sherry?

8:13 Caller No, I'm not.

8:14 Drew No?

8:14 Adam I understood her fine.

8:15 Sugar Ray Have to hold your breasts?

8:17 Caller Hold your breasts or hold your breath?

8:18 Caller I have to hold my breath.

8:20 Adam Right. Oh, Michael Hutchins thing.

8:22 Caller In order to reach climax.

8:26 Caller I still didn't hear whether she said breath or not.

8:27 Adam She has to hold her breath in order to reach climax. Is it a fixation thing?

8:31 Drew Let's change the word breath. Two things you have to hold her. Let's change the word breast to boob. Okay, so you have to hold your breath or hold your boob?

8:41 Caller I have to hold my breath.

8:42 Adam Breath. Just from the south.

8:44 Caller Wow.

8:45 Drew Still saying it. All right.

8:47 Adam Rest of the business.

8:48 Drew She put like, she put the three y's in, what would you say, clitoris?

8:54 Caller Yeah, she went on about that too. Now, what about that part of your anatomy?

8:59 Caller Whenever I'm getting a climax with Michael.

9:04 Adam Sounds like Al Gore and Drag.

9:05 Drew What's going on there, Sherry?

9:06 Caller What?

9:07 Drew Are you drinking seriously?

9:09 Caller No, I'm not drinking.

9:10 Drew All right.

9:11 Caller I'm having a hard time understanding me because I'm seven or whatever.

9:17 Drew Okay.

9:18 Adam Southern.

9:18 Drew You, I understand.

9:20 Adam You do not.

9:21 Drew No, I don't.

9:22 Sugar Ray Sound effect.

9:22 Drew But I don't care. That makes up for everything.

9:24 Sugar Ray Carping bell.

9:25 Drew Okay. So you hold your breath so you can have an orgasm.

9:28 Adam Really? Isn't that that's a popular, well, not a popular, but that is a form of sexual expression. Dr. Drew can help me out a little bit.

9:34 Caller Go ahead, Mark. You do just fine.

9:35 Adam No, but I believe that sometimes you affixate yourself. And not look, look, this isn't a standard practice, but some sexual deviants may do this. Sometimes you achieve a climax and you're playing with fire there.

9:45 Caller It's a way of heightening sort of euphoric effects upon the brain. So people experience a more heightened orgasm. But it's dangerous. But, you know, to be volitionally holding your breath is not that kind of asphyxiation. No, it's more about salvage, bearing down is why?

10:01 Caller Why do I have to?

10:03 Adam Because the blood is a rush to your brain anymore, right? And then you get that freak out, but you can't do that kind.

10:09 Caller You can't volitionally hold your breath like that.

10:11 Adam No, but maybe someone else is holding her.

10:12 Sugar Ray Maybe she's choking herself.

10:14 Caller Not possible.

10:14 Caller You're just holding it by yourself.

10:16 Caller Yeah.

10:16 Drew Are you masturbating? Cool.

10:18 Caller I'm masturbating, yeah.

10:21 Drew Yes?

10:22 Caller Yeah.

10:22 Caller What's that movie that Jodie Foster was in with the Feral Child?

10:25 Drew What about?

10:27 Adam Jesus, was that God?

10:28 Drew Yeah, what was it? Were they raised the wolf child?

10:30 Caller Yeah. What was it? All with Richard Gere? Now.

10:35 Adam Oh, that was disturbing, that movie.

10:37 Drew Who is this? Is this now?

10:38 Caller Yeah.

10:40 Drew No, listen, Sharon, what about when you're with a man?

10:44 Caller When I'm with a man, I have orgasm.

10:46 Drew And you don't have to hold your breath? What if he breaks wind?

10:49 Adam Yeah.

10:50 Drew I like to give a lady a little incentive.

10:52 Adam Me too. You know what you're dealing with.

10:54 Drew You ever do that erotic asphyxiation thing, honey? No, never before. Now's the time.

10:58 Adam It's involuntary right now.

10:59 Drew Make your move, baby. All I suggested. I recommend it highly. All right. She wants to hold her breath. That's fine. She's not putting a bag over her head or anything like that.

11:11 Caller She should be fine. Some sort of reflexive reaction that she has.

11:15 Drew Yeah.

11:16 Caller So it's fine. It's probably a baring of a Valsalva more than a breath holder. But it's all right.

11:19 Drew It's fine. Meaning she's hyperventilating?

11:21 Caller Like a baring down.

11:23 Drew Like that?

11:24 Caller Yeah.

11:24 Drew Okay. Like a swoon almost?

11:28 Yeah?

11:29 Drew You're 20. What's up?

11:30 Caller I'm a cyst of having sex with married men.

11:33 Adam Good.

11:34 Caller Why?

11:35 Caller I don't know. I guess because it's exciting.

11:37 Adam Isn't it because there's no commitment there? You can get away getting it out. Or is that for the guy? Sorry.

11:42 Caller I'll be over here if you need me.

11:44 Drew No, it is for a woman too, which is this relationship will never turn into anything.

11:48 Adam Well, they can dictate where it goes, which is something important to them. They can go, this will never happen. This will never go long. I think.

11:55 Caller I think it goes on multiple levels. I think on one level, it is a desire to break up a marriage, some primitive something, something left over from her past.

12:02 Drew Yeah.

12:03 Caller That was a cheater, mom was just something that she's trying to make right. At the same time, in doing so, subconsciously, no, she never has to be vulnerable and have a real relationship because, of course, it's impossible. It won't happen.

12:13 Drew Right. So the subset of the women who date guys who are in prison.

12:17 Caller Exactly.

12:18 Adam Self-fulfilling prophecies.

12:19 Drew Sandra?

12:20 Caller Yeah.

12:21 Drew Are you dating a guy now who's married? Yeah. Are you dating or are you just having sex with him?

12:25 Caller Well, I guess it's both.

12:28 Adam What's the difference?

12:29 Drew How often does this go down?

12:32 Caller Pretty often.

12:33 Drew Do you want to tell his wife about this?

12:37 Caller Frankly, I really don't care if she knows or not.

12:39 Drew Yeah, but are you interested in her finding out? I mean, do you want this guy to be a long-term relationship?

12:44 Caller No.

12:45 Drew You don't?

12:46 Caller No, I don't.

12:46 Drew How old is he?

12:48 Caller He's 27.

12:49 Drew And you're not in love with him?

12:51 Caller No.

12:52 Drew You're just having sex with him?

12:54 Caller I just have sex with any married guy that I can meet. I don't know.

12:58 Drew When's the last time you had a boyfriend?

13:02 Caller I don't know.

13:03 Caller You ever had a boyfriend?

13:04 Caller It's been a pretty long time.

13:06 Caller Are you interested in having a boyfriend?

13:08 Caller Well, yeah, but I just can't. I try to date single guys, but it just doesn't. I guess I'm not into them.

13:17 Caller Doesn't do it for you.

13:18 Adam There's a hard hole to get out of.

13:19 Caller You want to gamble on this one?

13:22 Caller Yeah.

13:22 Drew Why not? It's bet on. I just got back from Vegas.

13:24 Adam You're too inside jokes, man. We're not proving to you. It's a bummer. But go ahead.

13:26 Drew We're going to gamble on Sandra's pass. You guys got money? Yes.

13:31 Adam Yes, but it's 20. Well, I bet on Dr. Drew.

13:35 Caller No, no, no.

13:36 Drew No, no, you bet on Sandra.

13:37 Adam I don't have it.

13:38 Caller You bet here before.

13:39 Sugar Ray My wallet's in the car.

13:40 Adam Is that okay?

13:41 Sugar Ray Am I good for a buck when my wallet's in the car?

13:43 Caller Tell you what, you'll be good.

13:44 Drew How far is the car?

13:45 Sugar Ray Ten feet outside.

13:47 Drew Okay.

13:48 Sugar Ray Should I run?

13:49 Adam You guys got a front of us. We've been here a few times.

13:51 Drew You got a wheelchair?

13:52 Adam I got money. It's in the other room.

13:53 Drew I saw the house. I mean, it's a nice place. There's a lot of equipment over there. You can't come with the buck. I might have another dollar here. Lord knows I gave all my money. You're in Vegas, man.

14:03 Sugar Ray Oh, your 20s are gone, right?

14:04 Drew Yeah. Okay, here we go. All right. There. That's it.

14:09 Adam So we're making the, you know, her history.

14:12 Drew We're gambling on her past. What brought her to her present? I mean, she only dates guys that are married. She's only attracted to guys who are married. She hasn't had a boyfriend in a million years.

14:22 Adam I mean, from layman's point of view, I mean, there's maybe history of sexual abuse there within the family.

14:28 Drew Let me throw that out there.

14:29 Adam Let me go sex abuse.

14:30 Drew That's fine.

14:31 Adam I'm going to take that.

14:32 Drew That's good.

14:32 Caller What are we supposed to, who, who?

14:34 Adam Probably a paternal figure. And there's only one, there may be one.

14:37 Caller Fair enough.

14:38 Drew All right, Murphy, what do you say?

14:39 Sugar Ray That's what I think it is too, just dad was.

14:41 Adam No, no, no, no, no, you're on.

14:42 Sugar Ray Easy survivor. I can have my own? All right. Uncle, brother. Just trying to break it up. Okay, uncle is touching her in weird ways. Santa Claus and them all. She just wants to break up marriages or whatever and whatnot.

14:52 Adam Okay, so that's not even a guess, is it? All right.

14:55 Sugar Ray No, I think it's sexual abuse, but I'll say she wants to break, what you're saying about married men.

15:03 Drew Well, we want to know what got her to that point. And you don't have to go.

15:07 Adam Maybe he doesn't have an answer. You guys are the pros.

15:09 Drew I know, but here's the point. We can, people are very casual when they bet with other people's money, aren't they Drew?

15:14 Caller Nice.

15:15 Adam Well, I got mine in.

15:16 Drew When we talk to Sandra, she could come back and say, my parents are together, they're God-fearing people.

15:21 Adam That's true too.

15:21 Drew Everything's great. And there's a high probability of that. There could be some denial or could be the truth.

15:27 Adam Is nothing an answer?

15:28 Sugar Ray That's not a bad bet.

15:29 Drew No, you can make that bet.

15:30 Sugar Ray I'll say uncle had dancing hands.

15:32 Drew Okay, so uncle screwed around. Drew, what do you say?

15:35 Adam Dancing outlaw.

15:36 Caller All I get from her, though, is so sort of spent. You get that?

15:39 Drew Yeah, she's tired.

15:40 Caller She's just spent.

15:41 Drew But that could be the quail of it.

15:44 Adam Maybe she's talking to first color.

15:45 Caller I'm sure there's some, because there's a sexual compulsive quality to this, so I'm sure there's something. But these guys have got all that sexual abuse stuff. So let me say, see, I'm getting addiction somewhere. All right. Both parents are like addicts. They just left her alone. She's like virtually an orphan.

16:01 Adam So can you be more precise to the addiction?

16:03 Caller Heroin.

16:03 Drew Pick the drug. Heroin. I'm going with dad playing around.

16:09 Adam I have that one already.

16:10 Drew Moving around. No, not playing around with her.

16:13 Sugar Ray Oh, just being a Burt Reynolds style.

16:15 Drew That's right.

16:15 Adam Got you.

16:16 Drew Swinging.

16:17 Sugar Ray Yeah. Swinging on mom and she's, yeah.

16:19 Drew Dying ashore.

16:20 Sugar Ray Yeah.

16:21 Adam Dying ashore. Lani and Pam Seals and all the rest.

16:24 Drew Making the rounds and being just certain, not really around, maybe divorced at some point, but not abandoning. Maybe driving a truck or something.

16:31 Adam That's solid. That's really solid when I think about it.

16:33 Drew It's screwing around a lot. Sandra?

16:36 Caller Yeah.

16:36 Drew All right. Let's talk about your past.

16:38 Caller Okay.

16:39 Drew What about your parents?

16:40 Caller My parents are divorced.

16:42 Drew All right. Anything happened to you growing up?

16:48 Caller Um, I was molested once by one of my uncles.

16:52 Drew Oh, it's Nostradamus over here.

16:55 Caller How old were you?

16:55 Drew Very eerie, Murphy.

16:58 Adam Murphy knows.

16:59 Caller How old were you?

16:59 Drew You know what I love about this gambling game? Murphy sitting there going, come on, come on with the molestation. Come on, baby. Come on. Like he's at a horse race.

17:07 Adam But like, give them their money back. I know.

17:09 Drew Get into those panties, you old son of a bitch.

17:11 Adam That is kind of bad.

17:13 Drew It is kind of sad.

17:14 Adam I felt wrong doing that.

17:15 Drew I had to answer. Human nature.

17:16 Caller How old were you when that happened?

17:18 Caller I was around nine.

17:19 Drew Nine. All right. So how long did this go on?

17:25 Caller It just happened once.

17:26 Caller How old were you when your parents split?

17:28 Caller I was six years old.

17:31 Caller And why did they split?

17:33 Caller My mother was unfaithful to my father.

17:35 Drew Oh, interesting twist. Your mother was unfaithful.

17:38 Caller Well, what was dad up to that she was unfaithful?

17:41 Caller My father was an alcoholic.

17:44 Drew And any heroin? No, you want heroin, Drew, please.

17:47 Caller I want a dick.

17:48 Adam That's a recount, man.

17:49 Sugar Ray I think we're all winners.

17:50 Drew Put that buck back. No, no, no, no.

17:51 Caller That's the money he owes me.

17:52 Drew It's going to Murphy.

17:53 Sugar Ray Get in the money!

17:55 Adam No, because he owed you that because he bet with your money and you won the difference.

17:58 Drew All right, you all right, though, Murphy?

18:00 Caller Fine, yeah.

18:01 Drew Oh, I see, I put two bucks up. All right, Sandra?

18:04 Caller Sandra.

18:04 Drew Okay, so you got a lot of stuff going on. And that's gonna definitely color your relationships in the present and the future, right? So you're doing a lot of acting out.

18:16 Caller Are you doing any drugs yourself?

18:18 Caller No.

18:18 Caller Have you a history with doing drugs?

18:20 Caller Yeah.

18:20 Caller What drugs?

18:21 Caller Marijuana.

18:23 Caller Were there any other drugs in your family, your mom or your dad?

18:25 Caller No.

18:26 Caller Just alcohol?

18:29 Drew Drew, we can't let that dollar go, can we?

18:31 Caller Yeah, you know what, because it feels like more than alcohol there, just the degree of despair.

18:36 Drew Sandra? All right, so how about maybe getting a little therapy? Seeing about working out this issue with the uncle and the family and how about just not acting out for a little while? Can you do that?

18:47 Caller Yeah, well, my uncle's in jail, so.

18:50 Drew Fantastic. And what's he in there for?

18:54 Caller I have no idea.

18:55 Caller Parole violation.

18:56 Drew Parole violation, number one answer here on Loveline, by the way. So Sandra?

19:02 Adam It's solvable, which is a good news.

19:03 Drew You know what you're doing, right?

19:05 Caller Yes, I know.

19:05 Caller You're avoiding real- So stop doing it.

19:07 Drew Slow down with it. Have a real relationship.

19:10 Caller Well, the thing is that I can. I just- I can't have a real relationship because I like sleeping with one married guy and then skipping onto another one.

19:18 Caller Yeah, but just know that what you're doing-

19:20 Drew Yes, we covered that earlier in the call.

19:21 Caller That's an addictive behavior. It's a way of trying to manage overwhelmingly painful feelings.

19:25 Drew I was talking about this last week. I mean, all of a sudden, she may be years away from being able to do this. And she sounds like it.

19:31 Adam How old is she, by the way?

19:32 Drew She's 20.

19:33 Adam 20, so.

19:34 Drew Think about where your head was at at 20.

19:35 Adam Yeah, but it wasn't.

19:36 Drew Think about where it's at now.

19:37 Caller Yeah, exactly.

19:38 Adam Pretty much the same place.

19:39 Drew Well, a little better, theoretically.

19:42 Caller They will actually carry out those fantasies.

19:43 Drew You're not producing as much testosterone.

19:44 Adam I don't know about that.

19:45 Drew The clinic says I am. The thing about it is, I was saying this to Drew the other night, which is, as a guy, when all this S goes down in your life and you're 20, you may want to act out a ton of stuff, so actually, you can't. I mean, you can go to some booth and jack off somewhere if you can feed tokens into them, think fast enough, but you can't go sleep with a string of married women. If you're swinging a hair, driving a beat up truck, and live in a crappy apartment with a bunch of roommates.

20:16 Adam I still want to do that and it's difficult to do.

20:18 Drew That's my point. As a woman, we tell her don't do it, but it's so easy for her to act out.

20:23 Adam But she's at that pure gem age of a married man, that wants to still check his middle-age crisis thing. That's a good age for that kind of thing to happen.

20:32 Drew It's the difference for a guy, and we're talking about this, I think, a week or so ago. For a guy, it's like if you wanted not to do blow, don't go to the park, don't score it. Don't go to the ATM.

20:44 Adam A park? Where you been hanging out?

20:47 Drew Don't go talk to Rooster or Huggy Bear or whoever it is.

20:49 Adam Ray Ray.

20:50 Drew Whatever goes on. They're still calling it blow? Here's my point. No, here's what I'm saying. What do you mean, Dr. Drew? I could sit home and not go down to the park and score blow. But if I was at a party and someone put a tray of it under my nose, I'd do it. And that's what we're saying with these girls.

21:07 Sugar Ray Yeah.

21:07 Drew Right. They're at a party and someone's putting a tray under them.

21:10 Sugar Ray It's easy for them, yeah.

21:10 Drew It's real easy. There's a bunch of married horny guys that are tired of their old ladies.

21:15 Sugar Ray So does that make it right?

21:16 Adam But that doesn't make it right, of course. You need to show some restraint. I can't, but maybe someone else can.

21:21 Sugar Ray It's going to be hard for her.

21:22 Drew It means it's a much taller order for her to do what we've asked her to do, but she's going to have to do it on her own behalf.

21:28 Adam I think there's therapy involved there. It's probably hard to stop a pattern.

21:32 Caller It's like any compulsive or addictive process that requires work, and she's got to get help with it.

21:36 Adam Remind me not to go to a party with Adam.

21:38 Drew All right. Let's go do it. Seriously, do you guys have a lot of work?

21:40 Adam We got a break?

21:40 Sugar Ray We're going to go to the park?

21:41 Drew We're going to break now. We're going to break early. Murphy and Mark McGrath, brother of sugar Ray, we're going to take a little break.

21:47 Caller We're going to be really something.

21:50 Adam We're going to buy 80s metal for an hour.

21:52 Drew We're going to come back here. We're going to auction off some livestock after this.

21:58 Caller Love Line with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. We'll be right back.

22:28 Drew It is Love Line. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew. Over there, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, the fabulous Minka tomorrow night, the number one Asian big boob queen.

22:38 Adam Yeah. Will be in here.

22:40 Drew Have you guys ever seen her?

22:41 Adam It's been a long time.

22:42 Sugar Ray Oh yeah, are you kidding me?

22:43 Drew You ever seen her?

22:43 Adam I thought she was coming tonight, that's why I'm here.

22:44 Caller Do you know her?

22:45 Drew Have you seen a picture of Minka?

22:47 Adam Yes.

22:47 Sugar Ray You don't know Minka.

22:48 Adam She's got three boobs, I know Minka.

22:49 Sugar Ray You don't know Minka.

22:50 Adam I don't know Minka.

22:50 Drew She's huge.

22:51 Adam Do you know Minka? You don't know Minka.

22:53 Caller Well, no, I don't, but I've been hearing about her for quite some time. Adam had a lap dance from her and came back after he met her in person. She was his imaginary partner. Romano. When you're a kid, you have imaginary friends. This is his imaginary friend. He had it in her mind all the time when he walked around with Minka.

23:07 Adam So that's why she's on because she's huge here in America.

23:10 Caller Yeah. So why don't you recreate the experience of meeting her? Because I think it's prologue to what's going to happen tomorrow night when she actually appears.

23:17 Adam It's a horny name, Minka.

23:19 Drew All right. I think she made it up. But her real name is Geraldine. It's a Korean name.

23:24 Adam Agnes.

23:26 Drew Okay. I like the big cans. I enjoy that.

23:29 Adam I do too.

23:29 Drew That's for me.

23:30 Adam I like the big though, big sand on nipples. I don't like those.

23:32 Drew See, I like that too.

23:33 Caller You do?

23:34 Drew I like everything.

23:35 Caller Somebody mentioned it looked like a mini, mini.

23:37 Drew Personal size pizza.

23:40 Adam That's so awful. I hate those.

23:42 Drew I was in Vegas with, that was Anderson's, a personal size pizza. I was in Vegas, last time I was in Vegas, I was sitting there with my buddy at Olympic Gardens.

23:54 Adam I don't know the place. You never heard of it.

23:55 Sugar Ray You never heard of it?

23:56 Drew I'll show you next time.

23:57 Adam It's a great place.

23:58 Drew The gals are real friendly and the service is great.

24:03 Adam Good food.

24:04 Drew You can't beat the drink prices. Try this scampi.

24:08 Sugar Ray Good steak sandwich.

24:09 Drew They had, Minka walked by and I spotted Minka because being a big boob fan, I knew who Minka was and I yelled Minka and she came over. She said, I know you, you're from Man Show. I said, yeah, I'm a fan. Why you don't put me on Man Show? I said, Minka, I called you. I called your people. I wanted to do a bit with you. I ended up using someone else but we did call. I know you call. I know. Come on. I said, I know. We called. I know I have language barrier. So she's shy. Right.

24:35 Adam That's the one for her language.

24:36 Drew She sits down and I said, Minka, this is a great thrill for me. It really is. I think I wrote a report on her in the sixth grade. I was really excited to meet Minka. My friend Minka. She sat down and she said, I want to come on Man Show, not for money. I don't care about money. I don't need money. I got plenty of money. I want to come on for exposure. I like telling her I like this. I'm not interested in money. She told me she didn't need money about 700 times. She gets what she needs. Forty-five minutes she's sitting there and then she stands up there and she goes, You pay me now. That's a table dance. I thought you didn't need monkey money. I thought you didn't need money, Minka. If you say money Minka, it's going to come out as monkey eventually. I thought you weren't interested in money. She goes, What are you supposed to put in gas tank? Compliment?

25:20 Adam She did not say that.

25:21 Drew No, but she said-

25:22 Adam Because that is funny.

25:23 Drew She said it's too funny for Minka. She didn't say it. She looked me in the eye and she said, I sit here for a half hour. You pay me now. I said, Minka, the whole half hour you sat here, you told me how you didn't need money. Yeah, I didn't need it then. Now I need it. I got to pay bills. So I said, all right, give us some money. She gave me a laugh then. She put her knee, she has a knee like a crocheting needle. And she actually punctured my sack. I heard air leaking out of my sack for the rest of the night.

25:52 Adam Who thinks, what chicks think guys like that? I've had it happen to me too before. Nice swift knee to the groin. That's what I came here for.

26:00 Drew Strippers are under the impression that any contact they make with your junk is good contact. And they're right. Even if it's a forearm shiver, like a middle linebacker in the NFL.

26:10 Sugar Ray Still it's contact.

26:12 Caller You're not gonna demand longer dance, right?

26:15 Drew Yeah, yeah.

26:16 Adam Exactly.

26:16 Drew So Minka's rap was she'd go, you know I'm a number one Asian big boob queen.

26:22 Caller I go, all right.

26:24 Drew You can't argue with that. She goes, you know why men like me so much? I'm like, well, I could tell you why. I'll tell you why. My skinny ass and big boob. Let me get a Stenopad out. Let me work that math out. What did you say? Wide, dimply, zit covered ass and flat pancake sized chest. No, no. I have no ass and big boob. You know my doctor tell me I have thick skin. Thick skin. I can hold big boob. Her skin is apparently thicker and can hold a larger implant. Then she goes on to tell me one of these stories, which is great. You know these stories that people tell you where you know there's something wrong with the story, but you just don't have the time to get into it. Like this one? You just nod your head. See you nod? Right. Then she goes, I go, where are you from? I come here from Korea. I come here. I was tennis pro. I come here from Korea to be a professional tennis player. My coach told me, you should get into pornography. I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure. I'm sure most, Tracy Austin, didn't she do some porn?

27:31 Adam Yvonne Goulogne, Spread Eagle on Band-Aid Weekly.

27:34 Drew They all do it.

27:37 Caller The pro, the coach has to land that, right? They all do this connection.

27:40 Drew Most tennis pros slash pimp, coach, it's all the same. They're the same crowds. Pretty fast crowd at the tennis crowd. I didn't have time to-

27:48 Adam Sugar Ray Laver.

27:49 Drew You gotta be a pretty, yeah, you have a pretty bad tennis player for your coach to tell you should get into porn.

27:54 Adam Maybe it's the boobs gave it away. You know what I mean?

27:56 Drew I think she had- She didn't have that yet. She got those later. She had-

27:59 Sugar Ray Don't ruin the fantasy.

28:00 Drew She had something, but the point is, is Minka's coming in tomorrow night, and I couldn't be happier.

28:06 Adam Well, she's single.

28:07 Drew Yeah.

28:07 Adam Looking for a guest appearance.

28:08 Sugar Ray Minka.

28:09 Drew So anyway, Mark McGrath, Murphy both here from Sugar Ray. We will hop back on the phones and talk to Mikaela. Mikaela? Mikaela?

28:20 Yeah.

28:20 Drew You're 19. What's up?

28:21 Caller Yeah. I had a question about my boyfriend's erection. He'll have a boner, and then we'll put the condom on, and right before penetration, he'll get soft.

28:31 Caller That's the only way he has a condom on that happens?

28:32 Adam I can definitely take that one. I can definitely take that one.

28:35 Caller Is it only with the condom, though?

28:36 Caller Right.

28:36 Caller Only with the condom.

28:38 Adam It's kind of a bummer, the condom, so we all know it's being a guy, it's a universal thing.

28:41 Sugar Ray It feels like a balloon.

28:42 Adam And I'm not even hung. I got a small thing happening there, but the elasticity there at the end of the thing sort of has an involuntary reaction where I do get limp. It's sort of a bummer, because we are practicing safe sex here.

28:54 Drew But don't you think it has to do with the sort of pause and the light?

28:58 Adam It's so sexy. It's like Rob Monleau's on, he smells like Goodyear Tire Factory in there, and you're like, how's this?

29:03 Caller Adam actually has a solution to this. It was one of your many ingenious ideas.

29:07 Drew Oh, the midget who keeps it in his mouth?

29:10 Caller Yeah.

29:11 Caller Into that bar.

29:13 Caller I didn't like the midget kind of loader. I liked the kind of drills.

29:17 Drew The fast loader.

29:17 Caller Yeah, the fast loader and the drills.

29:18 Drew Oh, the drills. Yeah. I tell guys, no, this happens all the time, which is, it reminds me of the, you know when Wile E. Coyote would run off the cliff and he'd be doing fine running, but then he'd stop and look down and then immediately fall down. That's the same thing with your penis. You're doing great. You got a great boner. Everything's great. And then all of a sudden, it's time to have sex, stop, turn the light on, open the drawer, find the thing, and all of a sudden, now your brain's thinking. Now you're going, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, this is going down. Is she stupid enough? Oh my god, I hope she doesn't wake up. Please, god, I hope she had enough wine coolers. I got to get that IV going. So the point is, is you stop and then there's trouble. So here's what I tell guys, it sounds bizarre, but I really think I should do is, you can get a handful of condoms anywhere. You can go into the Planned Parenthood, you got the big fish bowl that you guess the amount and you get a free abortion.

30:08 Adam Go to high school.

30:09 Drew It's not in the front.

30:09 Adam Jesus Christ. I hear that.

30:12 Drew You haven't seen that? I have the point is, they give them anywhere. Grab a handful and go home. Now get half way into the masturbation and then jump up, turn the line, put the condom on and go back and finish yourself up from a masturbatory standpoint. Your penis will get used to an interruption, condom and an orgasm.

30:31 Caller You see?

30:32 Drew If you drill, you will be good to drill.

30:35 Adam That totally makes sense to me, but how about this? For me, it's been very pleasurable to have the girl apply the condom as a shared experience and they can do it in a very sensual way.

30:47 Caller Does that prevent the problem from occurring though?

30:49 Adam Well yeah, because everybody is in on it. There's no like, oh let me get over here and get all secretive.

30:52 Sugar Ray You're not turning around, you know, running to the end of the room.

30:53 Adam The girl doesn't know it, we know what's happening, we're practicing to save sex.

30:56 Caller The midget would work just as well.

30:57 Sugar Ray Yeah, he would. What would he be doing?

31:01 Adam Only female midgets. No, but that's worked for me too before, but I mean that's also maybe kind of advanced, something you got to work up to, especially amongst couples and they have species to do, but that has worked to me before and I want to stand, it's been amazing, all right.

31:12 Drew First, yeah, but if you're just doing, you know, first date type of situation.

31:17 Adam Yeah, that's kind of rough, go here honey.

31:19 Drew I would say practice.

31:20 Adam I'm really good at this, you know.

31:21 Drew Practice putting them on.

31:22 Caller One handed.

31:23 Drew Yeah, but they're good.

31:25 Adam It's hard to open that little sucker with one hand though.

31:27 Drew Yeah, you got to use your teeth.

31:28 Caller They use the teeth, exactly.

31:30 Drew All right.

31:30 Adam Then you open the condom.

31:31 Drew All right, so I don't know what the hell is wrong.

31:33 Caller You've given her a lot of good advice.

31:34 Drew Okay, that's enough for her then. Simon?

31:38 Yeah.

31:38 Drew Year 21?

31:39 That's right.

31:40 Drew What's up?

31:41 Well, I was wondering if I like, can get infections from having anal sex.

31:46 Caller Receiving or don't?

31:47 Adam I can answer that. I'm not a doctor.

31:49 I'm definitely not receiving.

31:51 Caller You're giving?

31:51 Caller Yeah.

31:52 Caller I'm by far also. Are you giving to males or giving to females?

31:56 I was, but now I have a girlfriend.

31:58 Caller Okay.

31:59 Caller What kind of infections are you asking about?

32:01 Well, there's poop on my dick, man.

32:04 Caller Well, yeah, you could eat coal and things.

32:07 Adam It's hard to be on in here.

32:08 Drew Where did you go to finishing school, Simon?

32:09 Caller Well, you can wear a condom to prevent that. But yeah, you can get bacteria up the urethra from that mechanism by itself. But there's also, of course, HIV, hepatitis C.

32:17 Adam It's just dirty business. It's just dirty business, in general.

32:19 Caller Hepatitis B, all the usual culprits, the STDs, they all can be transmitted that way.

32:24 Drew In figure, there's that extra...

32:25 Yeah, but I've been with this person for six months, and everything's cool, you know?

32:28 Caller So you just wonder if you can get... Just the fact that there's stool there, can that give you something?

32:32 Right, yeah, because sometimes there's a lot of it, but here's my other question.

32:35 Sugar Ray Oh, man.

32:37 Adam Sometimes we get to eat that day.

32:39 Sometimes I also masturbate with it.

32:42 Adam Oh, no, no.

32:43 Caller With the stool?

32:45 Yeah.

32:45 Adam It's not real, dude. It's not a real comment. Come on, man. I've done that a few times. I was really drunk.

32:50 I know it only happens like maybe like a few times, but I'm just like wondering if that, like why? Like why?

32:56 Caller Why I'm not going to even begin to hypothesize, but the...

33:00 Because I have to have something wrong with myself.

33:02 Adam Yes.

33:02 It's definitely you.

33:03 Caller Easy answer. It's called yagging off with poopy onions. But the, again, exposing the erythra to the bacteria, where it come up? I don't know. It's a stretch about that.

33:14 Drew Can't he just kill himself? Do we really need this guy traveling through society, spreading disease? You know what I mean? Can't we look at it as one of the disease-carrying members of society, but an ant to him?

33:25 Caller He is a vector, no doubt.

33:27 Simple rule.

33:28 Adam Poop equals bummer, right?

33:29 Drew Yeah.

33:30 Adam Anybody? No?

33:31 Drew Yeah. Listen, first of all, I'd rather jack off with gravel. I really would. Lava paper. A handful of sick grit.

33:39 Caller Knives.

33:40 Drew Yeah.

33:41 Caller On fire.

33:42 Adam Eat carpet.

33:45 Drew That's right. I really would. Broken glass.

33:48 Caller Yeah.

33:48 Adam How real is that though? I mean, is that a, you know, I mean.

33:52 Drew Who knows?

33:53 Caller He held it pretty good. He did, man. So it might be true and people do the strangest stuff. I guess they do. I'm weird too. We just ended a couple of conversations with a guy that called us back yet again about he and his goat.

34:03 Drew Yeah.

34:05 Adam I want to hear that. Or is he just from Sweden?

34:07 Drew No. He was dead on.

34:10 Caller Do you have any remnants of him?

34:12 Caller I didn't mean to get rude with the man.

34:14 Caller Oh, yeah.

34:17 Drew Actually, though, the good news is he got signed to a gold bond spot. You know, when I'm porking my goat, I get extra chafing.

34:27 Caller Right.

34:28 Caller Don't you hate when that happens?

34:30 Caller I had an itchy, itchy rash.

34:33 Drew We're going to take ourselves a little break. Murphy and Mark McGrath are both here from Sugar Ray. When we come back, Drew, who are we going to talk to? We'll talk to Tiffany. She's got a question for Mark about the album coming out next year. After that.

34:46 Caller Love Line, Love Line, we'll be right back.

35:29 Drew It's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-V-E-1-9-1. Mark McGrath is here from Sugar Ray. Also, Murphy Karges from Sugar Ray. Andrew? Who are we going to talk to? Tiffany? Oh, that's right. Tiffany.

35:48 Hello.

35:48 Drew What's up?

35:49 Nothing.

35:52 Mark, can I ask you a question?

35:53 Adam Of course you can, Tiffany. How are you tonight?

35:55 Oh my God.

35:55 I'm just fine. Thank you.

35:57 How are you?

35:58 Adam I'm doing great now that I'm talking to you.

36:02 Drew You know it's how to work the lady.

36:03 Adam You know what I mean?

36:04 I'm really nervous.

36:05 Adam That's when you get older.

36:07 I had a question. When are you guys going to be releasing a new single or anything for your new CD?

36:11 Adam You know what? Right now we're ensconced in the studio right now. So we're busy doing a new record and we're looking for a single release in the spring and have the record out in late spring, early summer.

36:22 Oh, really?

36:23 Adam Thank you for your inquiry. That's great. What else? I love you, too.

36:28 Well, I was wondering like, like, uh, Who's this now?

36:33 What's Mark?

36:35 Drew Is this someone else?

36:36 Adam That's someone else. They hand the phone.

36:38 Mark?

36:38 Adam Yes, ma'am.

36:43 Hello?

36:44 Adam Hello. Yeah, we're here. Who's this?

36:45 Caller Oh, this is Tiffany's mother.

36:47 Caller She's about, she's, she's freaking out over here.

36:50 Adam Hi, Tiffany's mother. I have a mom, too. I'm very partial to moms.

36:54 Caller Oh, I don't know if you remember us.

36:56 Adam I do. That's the funny thing. I don't know where you're from, but I remember Tiffany in the United States. I do remember.

37:00 Caller You remember us from Tower Records?

37:02 Yes, I do.

37:03 Adam How are you guys doing?

37:04 Caller Fine. Just great.

37:05 Great.

37:05 Adam Did you get my Christmas card? No. It's on the way.

37:08 Oh, well, thank you, Mark.

37:09 Adam Absolutely.

37:10 Caller I forgot your beer bottle.

37:12 Adam Well, that was definitely me.

37:14 Drew Tiffany's mom? Uh-huh. Yeah. Homeschooling. Huh? Two words. Homeschooling. Tiffany's out of control.

37:22 Caller Oh, she's so in love with Mark.

37:24 Drew I know, but there'll be others. Many, many others.

37:28 Adam Richard Ashcroft's around the corner somewhere.

37:30 Drew Yes, there'll be... there's other predators out there beside Mark. Mark can't get to all of them.

37:36 Caller This is...

37:37 Caller Mark is number one.

37:38 Adam Well, that's very sweet of her. You guys have a great holiday season.

37:41 Caller Well, thank you, Mark.

37:42 Adam God bless.

37:43 Caller Happy Holidays.

37:43 Drew Hey, Tiffany's mom.

37:45 Caller Oh, Mark?

37:46 Drew Yeah, this is Adam. Do you have like a retarded son who's into me or anything? No one there?

37:52 Caller Adam, can you ask Mark if any way that Tiffany can meet him?

37:55 Drew Yeah, let me see if I can go in between that.

37:57 Adam Mark?

37:57 Drew Yes, come on down. We're pretty tight. Can you... my friend Tiffany's mom's on the other phone?

38:02 Adam Yeah.

38:03 Drew You may know her from the Tower of Records.

38:05 Adam The beer bottle thing.

38:06 Drew The beer bottle incident. Is there any way you can go over to her house?

38:10 Caller No.

38:10 Drew No. Where do you guys live?

38:12 Caller We live in Norwalk.

38:13 Adam Oh, Norwalk!

38:14 Drew Wow. It's a beautiful country out there.

38:16 Adam I got a Warren out there in Norwalk. I can't get up. Actually, Norwalk's got a good ice rink, though. I'm a hockey fan.

38:21 Drew Hey, Tiffany's mom? You keep an eye on that girl, all right?

38:24 Caller Yeah.

38:25 Drew That's right.

38:26 Caller Yeah. She just wants to meet Mark so bad.

38:28 Drew I understand.

38:29 Caller But she met at Tower of Records.

38:30 Caller Yeah. Two years ago.

38:31 Drew Yeah.

38:32 Caller Yeah.

38:32 Adam I've changed a little. I got a beer billy now. You won't believe it.

38:35 Caller I don't think so.

38:37 Adam I think so. Anyway, though, this is going great, and have a great holiday season. Take care, you guys.

38:43 Drew Oh, boy.

38:44 Caller Tiffany's mom is younger than Tiffany.

38:46 Drew I know. It's like Sandra Dee is your mom. That is bizarre. It's weird when your parents... Aren't you supposed to get out of something that your parents get into or approve of when you're 16?

38:59 Adam That's how scary we are as a band. We're that threatening. You know, it's like... I like them too. Cool. That's why we're so cool.

39:05 Drew If you're 16 and you're really into Mark McGrath and then your mom starts getting into Mark McGrath, now you gotta move on, right?

39:09 Caller You gotta hate it.

39:10 Adam I feel like Fabian, believe me. But no, it's very endearing and very sweet and God bless it. People used to call me worse things than, hey, I wanna meet you.

39:19 Drew Oh, yeah.

39:19 Caller And they still do.

39:20 Drew Rachel?

39:21 Caller Hi.

39:21 Drew You're 23.

39:22 Caller Yeah.

39:22 Drew What's up?

39:23 Caller Can I make a comment first before I ask my question? Sure. I just wanna say to you guys and Sugar Ray, Mark, and I'm sorry, I don't know that... Okay. I just wanna say that it was your song that I lost my virginity to.

39:37 Adam Which one? Which one?

39:38 Caller Fly.

39:39 Adam Good one.

39:40 Caller Me too.

39:41 Drew How...

39:41 Adam It was a while ago.

39:42 Drew Yeah.

39:43 Adam How was it? Was it good?

39:44 Caller Um, no. I was so nervous.

39:46 Adam You were nervous?

39:47 Caller Yeah. So I didn't... I just... It wasn't...

39:50 Adam You know what's really weird about that is, and I will say this, I remember when I lost my virginity and the song still has a meaning to me. It's a... I just can't fight this feeling anymore, REO Speedwagon. It just was on the radio. It just came on. And so forever, that's endearing to me. So if we're there, REO Speedwagon with Millennium, then God bless us and I'll see you at the county fair.

40:07 Drew Yeah. I lost mine to a Fleetwood Max song. I don't remember the song. It went like this. One, two, and then that was it.

40:15 Adam You were the song.

40:17 Caller That was the song.

40:18 Adam That was it.

40:21 Caller Rachel, you had a question?

40:22 Caller Yes. I am wondering what the sign for schizophrenia is. Because I've asked a lot of people and they always get that mixed up with multiple personalities. And I know it's not the same thing.

40:31 Caller No, they're very different.

40:32 Drew You hear voices?

40:33 Caller You have delusions or hallucinations. Those are the prominent features.

40:37 Caller Okay, what about, I think my boyfriend has it. So what are the, like, he blacks out a lot, doesn't remember what he says, his mood changes incredibly.

40:46 Caller Well, first and foremost, he is a medical evaluationist. Make sure it's not some neurologic problem.

40:51 Drew Does he drink?

40:53 Caller Oh, yes.

40:54 Caller Alright, so this is the...

40:54 Adam Jesus, I can answer this.

40:56 Caller This is alcoholic.

40:57 Drew Helo to heroin.

40:58 Caller Yeah, you can't make a diagnosis of any other psychiatric condition when people are on drugs or alcohol.

41:02 Adam But he says sorry in the morning, right?

41:05 Sugar Ray Here's your list of apologies.

41:06 Caller This all sounds like alcoholism.

41:09 Drew You guys are... hold on, you ever have to defend yourself when like your girlfriend goes, hey, here's what you said last night. Your only defense is...

41:17 Sugar Ray They tell you what you said.

41:18 Drew That doesn't sound like me.

41:20 Adam What a bummer that is.

41:21 Caller I get a list of apologies I gotta make.

41:22 Adam Like 12 guys in there.

41:23 Caller My favorite denial story is the guy I worked with. Listen to this, guys. He'd come home loaded every night and he'd be raging at his wife and screaming. And finally she goes, he came and he'd come down in the morning hungover and she'd go, God, you carried on like I really can't stand this. Oh, I did not. What are you talking about? So one morning he comes downstairs and he says, and she calls him into the kitchen. He said, there's a tape recorder sitting on the kitchen table. Oh, she goes, honey, I have something we want to hear. And she said, she pushes the play button and there's this lunatic raving and screaming. And he goes, and it sounded like me. So his reaction was he got pissed off at his wife. How dare you hire an actor to sound like me, to make me believe that I actually behaved like that. Hold on to that.

41:59 Adam That's scary.

42:00 Caller And he said that story occurred about two years into his sobriety before he thought, Oh, so he's beyond sober now.

42:08 Adam Even I admit that's me in the face.

42:09 Drew So she needs to get her guy to quit drinking and get evaluated.

42:14 Caller He needs to be treated.

42:16 Adam If you're blacking out drinking, you have a problem.

42:18 Drew Yeah, and blacking out doesn't mean passing out, it just means you're going ballistic. That's the problem.

42:23 Adam I mean, I shamefully admit I've blacked out before. They told me I did. But you're off like another two hours, which is a bummer.

42:29 Caller Not just two hours. You may go days sometimes, not know what the hell happened. Just all of a sudden you're somewhere else. I don't know how you got there.

42:34 Adam Murphy suffered that. That's why he's going. He's going mute on us.

42:37 Drew Janice, you're you're 18. What's up?

42:41 Caller Yeah. Hi. Hi, Mark.

42:43 Adam Hi, Janice. How are you?

42:44 Caller Hi, I'm fine.

42:45 Adam Good. Hi, Janice.

42:46 Caller Hi.

42:47 Adam I just wanted to tell you, Mark, that like I love you and I adore you so much and like, you know, Janice, that feels so good to hear, especially in the holiday season, we're all kind of lonely, you know?

42:58 Caller Yeah. And over the summer, I saw you live at Wango Tango.

43:03 Adam Wango Tango.

43:04 Caller Yeah.

43:04 Adam Dodger Stadium.

43:05 Caller Yeah, Sugar Ray, like you totally kicked ass.

43:07 Adam Well, thank you very much. That was really fun. It was an honor for us to play at Dodger Stadium. It was a lot of fun. And thank you for the kind words.

43:15 Caller No problem. Yeah. I also wanted to know, like, I know that several months ago, you were supposed to be a guest doctor on ER.

43:27 Adam Yes.

43:27 Caller So something happened.

43:29 Adam The old cutting room floor thing. I went in there and this is my first acting thing ever, okay? Ever. Not even like a Malcolm and Eddie thing, being the bartender, nothing. What are you talking about? It's like, let's go on ER., okay? And you're going to go opposite Anthony Edwards and like move the plot along, you know what I mean? Like wait a second. So I mean, it was the greatest opportunity of my life. I go down there, I do the thing and I was totally nervous. I was blown away. You know, I mean, acting is a skill. It's not something you just fall into. You know, Mark Wahlberg is a talented actor. You know what I mean? It's amazing that the transition he made. So I went down there and I did this scene and I was nervous and sort of bad, but David Kelley down there was really great. And excuse me, John, what's his name? I'm sorry, I'm going to react again. But it was really cool to me and it just didn't work and ended up in the Cutting Room 4, which I heard everybody says. But the bottom line, I was just not very good. But it was very fun to do.

44:19 Sugar Ray What's your second acting gig? Did you left that out? We did a movie.

44:22 Adam No, we did Father's Day.

44:23 Sugar Ray That was really bad. But it wasn't your first. It was your second.

44:26 Caller Telling you something, man. Did you have a sense there was a problem?

44:30 Adam Well, yeah, I just wasn't good. I mean, Anthony Edwards is an amazing actor.

44:34 Sugar Ray He was in the elevator scene, right?

44:35 Caller Couldn't that help you, though?

44:36 Adam Well, I would hope it would, but it did in my case, you know? And so I just I probably brought the whole scene down. It was just bad, but it was like probably the best acting class you could ever take.

44:44 Caller What were you doing?

44:45 Adam I was the resident psych. Dr. Nadeo, they called me, you know, and so I'll be back next season.

44:51 Sugar Ray Hold your breath. It's like patient didn't make it, though.

44:54 Adam No, it was an amazing thing.

44:55 Sugar Ray It was cast.

44:55 Adam It was fun to be part of. No, you know what? I should have been the patient.

44:58 Sugar Ray You're right.

44:59 Adam You're right. No, but it was great. It was a lot of fun. But that's what happened to that. But I can't thank those guys enough for even giving me a shot.

45:06 Drew Were you saying dialogue that you sort of believed or that you felt comfortable with?

45:12 Adam Well, I just said David Kelly did ER when, you know, that's totally correct. You know, so that just sort of gives you the, you know, my mindset at the time. No, I was saying dialogue that was mellow. They didn't like give me anything like too technical, which ER can get to be.

45:24 Sugar Ray You said they tried to make you like the goofy doctor.

45:26 Adam I was like, hey, dude, well, you know, what's wrong with Carter? You know what I mean? So I was kind of like Trapper John for mash on the thing. And I just wasn't good. But well, you know, you know, it kind of hurt a little bit because there was always publicity out that I'm going to be on there. And then like in between them, like me taping it and them like editing it just all went to hell.

45:43 Drew Yeah.

45:43 Adam But I had to answer a lot of questions like, yeah, it was great.

45:46 Drew Yeah, people remember that.

45:48 Adam No, they forgot about this. Nine months ago. No one's bringing it up now. Right. You know, no one remembers that stuff.

45:53 Drew Acting is weird. Even just walking is weird when you're acting. You ever feel like walk across?

46:00 Adam Well, how about Adam, how about just be yourself?

46:02 Drew Yeah.

46:03 Adam That's the hardest thing to do. It's just, it's just, it's creepy. And like a lot of people think like, oh, acting is so easy, but it's not. It's difficult. Very hard. And it totally relates to your sex problems too.

46:13 Drew No, it's easy. It's made to look easy by those who are very good at it. And that's why people think it's easy. But if they saw people, when you see bad acting, you realize.

46:24 Adam Go to some, go to some Dawson Creek editions. You'll see some acting because I did that too.

46:29 Drew Yeah. Or just watch some gay porn. That's acting. All right. We'll take a little break. We'll be back, Sugar Ray, after this.

46:37 Caller Love Line, 1-800-LOVE-191.

47:22 Drew Is that me? I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Murphy Karges is over there. And so is Mark McGran from Sugar Ray. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-191. Mark wants to make a quick retraction.

47:37 Adam May I just say it was the, it was John Wells and his people who helped me out there at ER. And I apologize for the David Kelley mistake. And yes, let's continue on. Inforgiven. No, they were great. They were really cool to me. And that was the people at ER. That gave me the shot and He won't remember any of this tomorrow when he's blackout.

47:55 Caller My mom's listening. Oh, sorry, I'm a Newport.

47:58 Drew Drew, please, how dare your mother's listening. Well, she may be in a blackout too. All right, let's talk to Rebecca. Rebecca.

48:05 Hi.

48:06 Drew Hey, you're 16. What's up?

48:07 Caller Yeah. My boyfriend and I, we both have scabies.

48:11 Drew Fantastic.

48:12 Caller Nice.

48:13 Caller When we have sex, it like stings.

48:16 Caller Well, now wait a minute. You've been treated for scabies? Yeah.

48:19 Caller Well, they gave me Acticin and I've tried Lindane lotion and they both don't work. I've did the directions and everything.

48:26 Caller How do you know it's scabies then?

48:28 Caller Because he's had them before and he went to the doctor.

48:30 Caller Well, maybe it's not scabies. The scabies will go away when you're treated usually.

48:34 Drew Scabies are little critters that get under your skin.

48:37 Caller Yeah. Lice basically.

48:38 Drew Oh, that's bad times. But they burrow?

48:40 Caller Yeah, they burrow around.

48:42 Drew I'd freak. If I ever got high and had scabies, I'd freak.

48:45 Adam That would be rough.

48:46 Caller Mushrooms and scabies.

48:48 Drew Mushrooms and scabies would mean I would cut that patch of my body out, bury it in some kind of bizarre ceremony in the backyard involving a candle and like a goat's head. I would freak. I would freak.

49:00 Caller Yeah, you can't see. You just get like an allergic reaction. It looks like an allergic eruption.

49:03 Drew I know, but you know there's something living and crawling underneath your skin.

49:08 Caller And now you get burning when you have sex also.

49:10 Caller Yeah, because well, my boyfriend had it before and then they came back. We have all the symptoms for scabies. I mean, it is at night and where is it? It's like in the like area around my vagina. And it's like it travels from like sweaty places like in your armpits.

49:26 Caller You have it there too? Yeah. Again, it could be a lot of things, Rebecca. You're making assumptions and the burning, the fact that it's inside the vagina also now is rather disturbing. You need to have this looked at right away.

49:41 Adam Sounds like a good case of seborrhea.

49:43 Caller Well, I've had it looked at quite a few times by different doctors and they both say that it's scabies.

49:50 Caller I don't know. You saw a dermatologist?

49:53 Caller No, not a dermatologist. I just went to see my doctor.

49:55 Caller You need to see a dermatologist. Okay. Yeah. Something's not right.

49:59 Drew I think she's got to call in the Orchid Man.

50:01 Caller Yeah.

50:01 Drew That her vagina tented off.

50:03 Adam Eugene Landy or something?

50:04 Caller Who are you calling? Maybe she burned herself with a Lindane. Maybe she's got a yeast. I mean, it could be anything.

50:10 Drew Do they get up in you?

50:11 Caller No, they don't.

50:12 Drew Why not?

50:12 Adam They don't.

50:13 Drew Even the scabies won't go up there.

50:14 Adam It's an epidermal.

50:15 Caller Even the scabies won't.

50:16 Drew No. You don't get that up in there.

50:19 Caller They're around the waist, the wrist, the ankles, that sort of thing.

50:22 Drew Right.

50:24 Caller I got them around my fingers before too.

50:26 Caller Yeah. Rebecca, I think you need a more careful diagnosis. There's something wrong about this.

50:31 Caller Okay. And then also my boyfriend, his penis gets swollen like whenever. Yeah.

50:36 Caller That sucks. Something is really not right here. And whether or not this is herpes or something else on top of something or with...

50:43 Drew And it's scabies wouldn't cause that, would it?

50:45 Caller Yeah. Because I went to my doctor and we totally did like a physical and she said it's not herpes or anything.

50:52 Caller What kind of doctor is she?

50:54 Caller She's an MD.

50:55 Caller What kind of MD?

50:56 Caller I'm not sure.

50:57 Caller You don't know.

50:58 Adam Self-diagnosis is always good.

51:00 Caller It's good that you've gotten care, but it's time to get into specialist here and see if somebody can come up with a more accurate diagnosis because it just doesn't seem to be right. Dermatologist is the place to start, okay?

51:08 Caller Okay.

51:08 Caller Probably your boyfriend ought to go with you so he can get a look at what you're passing back and forth here.

51:12 Caller Okay.

51:13 Caller All right.

51:13 Drew All right there. What are you guys doing it out in the dirt or something?

51:17 Caller What's going on?

51:19 Drew Is there some kind of hillbilly love going on there? Taking baths, gardening equipment.

51:22 Adam Are you fish fans or what?

51:23 Drew Nope. Yeah. All right. Take it easy over there. Get everything. You guys need a good dipping. Yeah. Drew, can you dip patients like a pooch?

51:33 Caller We used to have this sort of a deep, what do you call it? There's a room where we just hosed them down.

51:38 Caller Really?

51:38 Adam Going through Ellis Island in the 1800s.

51:40 Caller Oh, yes. County hospitals have those things.

51:42 Caller Really?

51:43 Caller D-Lowsing rooms, basically.

51:45 Adam SC has one of those.

51:46 Caller Oh, yes.

51:46 Drew Yeah. I'm looking.

51:48 Caller How do you know that?

51:48 Adam Because I blacked out once and they told me about it.

51:51 Drew I think-

51:51 Caller You turned up there or they told you about it?

51:53 Adam I went to SC. That's why.

51:55 Drew I like that. I'd put everyone in one of those, you know, those wind tunnel rooms where people can just fly around and do the somersaults and everything. Walls are padded. Just strip them down, put them in the wind tunnel room, put a bunch of fly paper on the ceiling and just see what came off of them.

52:09 Adam See what sticks there.

52:10 Caller Yeah.

52:11 Drew Just give them a good-

52:11 Caller Glass rings, lifesavers.

52:14 Drew Liz, fillings, corneas. Liz, you're 14. What's up?

52:21 Caller Yeah. Hi. I just wanted to talk to Mark.

52:24 Caller I think you're really cute, Mark.

52:25 Caller Thank you, Liz.

52:28 Caller I wanted to know, like my friend at school, she has your picture on her binder, and I wanted to know if you ever get freaked out by that kind of stuff.

52:37 Adam No, it's very charming to me. It's very endearing and I respect it very much. It's just a great thing and I really appreciate it.

52:45 Caller Yeah.

52:46 Adam Well, every time I- It's very cool to me. I'm still a fan. I was a fan when I was younger. I used to draw pictures of Ian Asprey on my peachy folder. Now, I hang out with him and it's kind of weird and bizarre.

52:56 Drew Well, Murphy's no chopped liver either, I got to tell you. He's a hot-

53:00 Caller Yeah.

53:01 Drew He's a hot lad. Thanks. All right. Liz?

53:06 Caller Yeah.

53:07 Drew Yeah, thanks.

53:07 Caller Thank you.

53:08 Drew All right. Bye. Let me ask you, Mark. I mean, I think people's perception is you must feel different. It must be weird. You must be walking through life in a surreal haze. Not the blackout, not the booze and drugs, alcohol.

53:22 Adam Thirteenth step.

53:23 Drew Blackout. But what I mean is you must feel it every day. And the reality is that I think people adjust pretty quick, whether it's getting your leg cut off.

53:30 Adam Sure.

53:31 Drew Or whether it's becoming a pinup.

53:33 Adam Well, here's the reality of this. Okay. It's very cool. And I always wondered what it would be like. And now I kind of know what it's going to be like. And in a year or two, it's going to go away. And that's how I look at it. It's very shallow. It's very fun. It's amazing to deal with. But it doesn't define my life and who I am. This thing happened to me in my later years, let's say. I'm not a young guy. I was able to adapt to it. And it's great. And it could leave tomorrow. And I understand the fragileness, if that's a word of it all. And that's something you have to respect. But it's an amazing thing. What can I say?

54:01 Drew But do you ever feel like...

54:02 Adam I used to have a real job. We were talking about construction earlier.

54:04 Drew Yes.

54:05 Caller Is that a real job?

54:06 Drew Yes.

54:07 Adam Well, there was no drywall. I was hanging pictures of me on the trucks like, hey, dude, look at my grass butt right here.

54:12 Drew This piece of ass.

54:14 Adam What did you do? I was a laborer, so I spoke Spanish.

54:18 Caller This is Adam's gig.

54:20 Adam No, straight labor, whatever needed to get cleaned and done. I didn't even have a skill.

54:24 Drew Yeah, I started with that and then stayed in too long and got a skill. I'm trying to forget.

54:29 Adam Did you go union?

54:31 Drew No, I wish I did. I was an idiot.

54:33 Adam Live better, work union.

54:34 Drew I know.

54:36 Adam To answer that question, it's a very sweet thing, but it's fleeting, may I say.

54:41 Drew Yeah, but do you ever feel like this? I mean, I'm no Mark McGrath, but people come up to me sometimes and I go, what's it like when people stop you in the airport and talk to you, or people seem to know who you are, yell your name out or whatever. And I always say, well, I figure if you got a TV show, that's what happens to people that have TV shows. And people who yell my name aren't yelling at me, they're yelling at the guy who has the TV show, who happens to live in my body. I don't want to get too surreal about it, but it doesn't freak me out. It comes with the territory. I figured when I watched TV, I knew who the Duke brothers were, and would have yelled, Hey, Bo, hey, Luke. When I was at the airport, and I'm just assuming it's the same thing.

55:24 Adam What happens to you? You gotta know that, you know?

55:26 Drew Yeah, it just feels like they're yelling at the guy who's on TV. And that's what happens when you're on TV.

55:31 Adam But the bummer is when you can't live up to their fantasy what they have you as. You're just a normal guy that farts and eats food. It's like, yeah.

55:38 Drew Yeah, not in that order either. I eat and then I break wind. That's how I get to good wind.

55:43 Adam Not me.

55:44 Drew Danny?

55:44 Caller Yeah, what's up, I'm down in LA.

55:47 Drew What's that?

55:47 Caller What's up, down in LA.

55:49 Drew Oh yeah, shout out to LA.

55:51 Caller Yeah.

55:51 Drew You're 13.

55:52 Caller We don't get a lot of LA life out in Michigan.

55:54 Drew Are you really 13?

55:55 Caller I'm really 13.

55:57 Drew Wow.

55:57 Caller Boy, how's your beard?

55:59 Caller It's doing all right, coming along nicely.

56:01 Adam Christ.

56:01 Caller A few stumbles.

56:02 Adam How's your kids doing?

56:05 Caller Well, one of them's in jail already.

56:06 Caller Yeah, all right.

56:08 Caller Yeah, okay, I lied to the screener. I didn't really have a call. I see.

56:12 Caller I just wanted to ask Mark a question real quick.

56:14 Adam Yes, I know, Kid Rock.

56:16 Caller Hey, Mark, I have a really hot friend. She's your number one fan.

56:21 Caller She's obsessed with you. And I was wondering if you could get like an autographed picture for her or something.

56:26 Caller You are an asshole.

56:27 Drew Yeah.

56:28 Adam Sure I can, definitely. When I'm going to put you on hold, I'll definitely get that to you, all right?

56:31 Caller Seriously?

56:32 Drew Yeah, absolutely.

56:32 Adam I will do that.

56:33 Caller Oh my God, Mark.

56:34 Adam No, I will do that for you, man. If it gets you in there, I'll do it for you.

56:37 Caller Thank you so much.

56:38 Adam No problem, bro.

56:38 Drew All right, Danny. There you go. There's a guy who's 13. Nads dropped in kindergarten.

56:44 Adam He was that guy when you're playing basketball, the first guy to have hair in his pits and went to block your shot like that. What is that? We're all bald, you got hair? I know that's funny. How come he isn't laughing?

56:53 Drew Kat, you're 14.

56:54 Caller I was just lying about my question, sorry.

56:56 Drew You lied.

56:57 Caller I wanted to talk to Mark.

56:58 Drew Wow.

56:59 Sugar Ray What about me? I'm lonely.

57:01 Drew What about Murphy over here?

57:02 Sugar Ray Call her for Murphy.

57:03 Caller Murphy, do you guys kick so much ass?

57:05 Sugar Ray Thank you.

57:05 Caller Murphy, you're like my life. My room is covered in pictures of you, and I just want to say hi and thanks. Also, Adam.

57:13 Drew Yeah.

57:14 Caller I have a question for you.

57:15 Adam Quick segue. I can't even respond to it.

57:17 Drew Do you want me to talk to Mark?

57:18 Adam Thank you.

57:18 Caller U-turn.

57:19 Drew Talk to Mark about getting you two together?

57:22 Caller No. Well, my boyfriend, he really likes me and all, but I don't know if he wants me for my personality or what he says he does, but I don't really know because I've been with a whole lot of guys, and he didn't know that when he met me, but everyone says that's the reason he likes me.

57:40 Drew Because you've been with a whole lot of guys?

57:42 Caller Well, yeah.

57:42 Adam That makes sense. We usually fall for that.

57:44 Caller Because why?

57:45 Drew The allure of getting cramps is one I can't say no to personally.

57:49 Adam Look at these Mike and Ikes on my peepee.

57:50 Caller What else?

57:51 Caller Well, everyone says I give really good head and like-

57:54 Caller Oh, boy.

57:54 Adam Right. You got a number?

57:55 Caller 14.

57:57 Adam Sorry.

57:58 Sugar Ray You're 14?

58:00 Drew The words out on oral sex? Basically. She said, I'm 36 and the jury is still out on the oral sex with me. We'll get back to you on that. I'm still thinking. All right. So, Kat, what's with all the acting out? Why are you in such a hurry?

58:16 Caller I don't know. I just like it.

58:19 Drew You like the attention?

58:20 Caller Yeah, I think so.

58:21 Drew Is it more the attention than it is the physical sensation?

58:25 Caller Well, no. I mean, I'm happy if I'm with someone else.

58:30 Drew With someone and not with yourself.

58:32 Caller Yeah.

58:33 Adam Is that so wrong?

58:34 Drew Where's Daddy?

58:36 Caller He's at home.

58:37 Drew Really?

58:37 Caller In his home?

58:38 Adam Can we talk to him?

58:40 Caller No. He kind of abused me but not extremely, just kind of emotionally and like.

58:47 Caller Yeah. What you're getting into is need to be in power over men. Feelings of powerlessness, power and control.

58:55 Caller Really?

58:56 Caller I like being dominated, but.

58:59 Drew Yeah, but you like being alluring to men. You like the fact that men want you.

59:05 Caller Yeah.

59:05 Drew And that's a power thing right there. I mean, when you know a guy really wants to be with you, that puts you in a power position.

59:12 Caller Being dominated is that familiar role you've been in, but when somebody has felt powerlessness, they'll go back and forth between being the one that's dominated and the one that's being the dominator and the parent, and the child, and back and forth. And that's all from leftover pain, frankly.

59:27 Adam But is it being power, is it being empowering or being powerless?

59:30 Caller It's feelings of powerlessness that create that need to keep acting these things out over again.

59:34 Adam So there's a synergy between the two.

59:36 Caller Well, it's a way of, the only sort of, when you have those primitive feelings of powerlessness, the only way the brain knows to counteract that is to power over the other end of that spectrum, as opposed to realizing that's a very primitive, leftover sort of fantasy from the past. That has nothing to do with reality. And this is all still being under the power of the people that damaged her long ago.

59:55 Adam Especially at 14, right?

59:56 Drew So, Kent, here's the problem. I know you kind of enjoy the semi-quasi-celebrity you have now from the oral sex, but it is something that's not going to look great on your permanent record. And maybe you should slow it down just a little bit. Could you do that?

1:00:10 Caller Well, what exactly should I do?

1:00:12 Adam Yeah, but you know, that's an interesting question because you say slow it down, but it won't happen as soon as you hang up the phone. How do you take it to the next level without seeking professional help? Like, how do you do that? Because I know plenty of these girls, plenty of them. I've heard about them. Any numbers? No, but seriously, you say like hey, slow it down. But you know, Adam, does that work? I mean, you slow down your thing. Stop tipping people.

1:00:32 Caller Stop masturbating. I'm slow down.

1:00:33 Adam Yeah, really.

1:00:33 Caller How dare you? K-way out of business. It's painful to even think about it. You see that?

1:00:38 Adam He's chafed. Look at him. He can't even cross his legs.

1:00:40 Drew I can't think straight now. I need a moment. Here's what I'm saying. That's all I can tell them. Because if I say stop cold turkey, they're not going to do that. I'd like to strike some sort of balance where I said at least think about what you're doing. Don't get pregnant or AIDS in the meantime. You know what I mean?

1:00:58 Adam But that's what they're calling for. They know they should stop. Dr. Drew, I look at you being the voice of reason here. What should they do?

1:01:06 Caller See, I'm not sure that there are recipes. That's the thing. Our whole idea here is we're trying to give her some insight into where it comes from.

1:01:14 Adam It's an open forum to talk about it.

1:01:15 Caller Well, no. If she starts to understand that, oh my god, it is these old feelings, some feelings generating these behaviors, maybe she'll slowly start to become aware of it and find other ways to deal with those feelings that aren't so destructive to her. Maybe there are more productive ways to deal with this that will ultimately make Cat happy. I would say, on 14, focus on some friendships, to stay with friends, to hang out with friends.

1:01:37 Adam This discourse could perpetuate the professionalism needed for maybe this sort of...

1:01:41 Drew Well, I mean, hold on.

1:01:43 Adam No, yes, because if you can talk about it and identify maybe where the history's at, get the nucleus of it, right?

1:01:48 Drew No, I agree with Mark. I think in that what he's saying is we're laying the groundwork for a healing that is not going to come tomorrow.

1:01:57 Caller No, absolutely. But he's also saying they may need professional intervention to get it.

1:02:00 Adam But see, you guys are the friends that they hear every night, that they can talk about, they wouldn't talk about because, you know, like in science class tomorrow, and that can like perpetuate what you need to talk about.

1:02:10 Caller Well, it needs to go.

1:02:11 Sugar Ray You know what I'm saying?

1:02:13 Drew I mean, we all know that at 14, it's hard to make that profound change in your life.

1:02:19 Adam But I think it's smart when they call up a show and say, I have this affliction. I have this problem.

1:02:24 Drew Mark, stop trying to help. Screw these kids. That's what I'm saying.

1:02:27 Adam Give me another beer.

1:02:27 Caller They're on their own.

1:02:29 Drew No, I mean, you know, you know the work that you need to do in your own life. Yet knowing it and doing it are two separate things. Now, but you do have to know it before you do it. Well, how long do you have to know it? For some people, it's almost immediate. And for other people, it's as a gestation period that goes on for years and years and years.

1:02:48 Caller And that's another piece, theoretically, what we're doing here is helping people develop change. There's sort of identification of need for change, readiness for change, contemplation about change, planning change, and then changing. And people go through these stages and it takes varying degrees of time to go through these different stages.

1:03:04 Drew Right, we hope it's faster.

1:03:06 Caller We're going to identify the need for change.

1:03:07 Adam Identifying the first stage is a huge step. I'm glad you guys are on the air.

1:03:10 Caller There you go.

1:03:11 Drew Thank you. Karina?

1:03:13 Caller Oh, thanks for your...

1:03:14 Drew I saw poop up there and I punched it. That guy back? You're 17, what's up?

1:03:19 Caller Okay.

1:03:20 Caller My name is Karina.

1:03:23 Drew Yeah, turn your radio down, goofball.

1:03:24 Caller Okay, okay.

1:03:26 Caller Ooh, on speed.

1:03:29 Drew Is that what that is?

1:03:29 Caller Yeah.

1:03:29 Caller Hello?

1:03:30 Caller Yeah.

1:03:31 Caller Okay, hi.

1:03:31 Drew Hey.

1:03:32 Caller I didn't see you to do that, you know? Yeah, what up? Okay. I don't really have green poop. I just want to say, Mark, you're really hot. Adam, you're really funny. Murphy, you have a really cool name. And Drew, you're smart. You're the other guy. You never see this to amaze me.

1:03:50 Drew Right? Are you nervous, Karina? Are you high on speed or are you from some country where they talk real fast? Because they have those auctioneer countries where they...

1:03:58 Caller Are you okay? Yeah.

1:04:00 Drew She's nervous. Speed. Are you on... Have you done any speed?

1:04:04 Caller Have I what?

1:04:04 Drew Speed? Have you done any cranking?

1:04:05 Adam Are you from Riverside?

1:04:07 Caller No.

1:04:08 Drew No. You're just a little nervous?

1:04:10 Caller Yeah.

1:04:10 Drew I see.

1:04:11 Adam Me too.

1:04:11 Drew All right.

1:04:12 Adam I sound that way too sometimes.

1:04:13 Drew Well, thank you for that. Okay.

1:04:16 Adam Let's say to John Wells and their people again.

1:04:17 Drew I'll tell you, these bogus callers, I'm so goddamn predictable. The first one says has a double D brass.

1:04:24 Caller You go for it.

1:04:24 Drew Looking to get it, but skinny and tall, looking for a reduction. You know, I lock right in on that. The next one is the poop is green. It says, why is her poop always green?

1:04:33 Adam And who does she want to talk to?

1:04:34 Drew I get excited about that. They both go for Mark.

1:04:36 Adam I think we're the margin of error right here. I apologize to you guys.

1:04:38 Drew Oh, no.

1:04:39 Caller They know how to get through the doors. Yeah.

1:04:40 Caller Right.

1:04:41 Adam Poop is green. Hey, Mark.

1:04:43 Caller Alex?

1:04:44 Caller Yeah.

1:04:45 Drew You're 24.

1:04:46 Caller Yeah.

1:04:47 Adam Pimp is good.

1:04:49 Caller I think that you need to let up on Drew all the time because I think he's cool.

1:04:55 Caller Thank you, Alex.

1:04:56 Caller Yeah.

1:04:57 Caller Well, my thing is that I have this fantasy where I would think about my girlfriend being with other guys or having them around or whether it's one or more than one.

1:05:09 Drew Other guys she's been with or other guys she's not been with?

1:05:12 Caller That she hasn't been with.

1:05:13 Drew I see.

1:05:14 Caller You want to have a threesome or?

1:05:16 Caller Well, I think about that. Sometimes I think about watching or something like that.

1:05:21 Drew Do you want to be with other guys?

1:05:22 Caller No, no. I think about other girls all the time. I'm totally straight. I just wonder if I'm sick or if I just...

1:05:30 Drew No, I think that's a pretty popular one.

1:05:32 Caller That's very popular.

1:05:32 Sugar Ray That's pretty common.

1:05:33 Caller Anything else you want to tell us about your past or anything?

1:05:36 Caller I don't know. My dad was a real prick. But other than that, I don't know.

1:05:42 Caller Did you ever walk in anything or see anything with your dad?

1:05:45 Caller No.

1:05:46 Caller All right.

1:05:47 Drew This is a popular one and most guys have it more.

1:05:50 Adam Because I have the same affliction.

1:05:53 Drew I had it much more at 24 when I was Alex's age and I do it 36. Now I just sit home and wait to die.

1:06:01 Caller So the theory is there's a testosterone thing.

1:06:04 Drew Yes, I would have this fantasy if I had the energy to have any fantasies.

1:06:07 Adam Well, can I ask you something? Is it that the worst thing you could possibly hear is maybe something that ends up turning you on? You know what I'm saying, Drew?

1:06:14 Caller What do you mean?

1:06:15 Drew Like, if it turns you on, why is it bad? If it's not hurting anybody.

1:06:20 Adam I don't know. I guess. I guess it's like maybe there's a sort of like, you know, devil within us all that like, you're like, how was it, baby? Tell me about it, huh? You like this?

1:06:26 Sugar Ray What are you saying about the things you might have seen?

1:06:28 Adam Murphy, I'm not even close to being done with this.

1:06:30 Caller I'm just curious if this is some sort of reenactment of, I forget what they call that scene. You know, you walk in and the parents having sex or something that sort of etches something weird into us.

1:06:39 Adam I think it's a good old fashioned American affliction that we all deal with every now and then.

1:06:43 Sugar Ray I want to see you pork in the blower.

1:06:45 Drew No, you know what it is? It's a, there's a little bit of misogyny in it.

1:06:51 Caller There's some degradation.

1:06:51 Sugar Ray There's a little degradation in it.

1:06:53 Adam It's a deviant in all of us.

1:06:54 Caller I think that sort of brings it in everybody. You wonder if testosterone causes a man to want to do that.

1:06:58 Adam Well, let me ask you something, Drew. When you were a single guy, didn't you ask the girl you were with, who was the last guy you had sex with?

1:07:04 Caller Oh, when you were 17, 18?

1:07:05 Adam No, no, no, don't give me 17, 18. Don't give me that. The last girl you were with, who you're with now.

1:07:10 Drew Mid-50s.

1:07:11 Adam You did and it's like whether you take it to like, who you're with and then you're fine with it or you take it to like, slapping butt like, who would tell me about it? I think we all have that deviant in us as males. I can't agree to that, then why are we here?

1:07:22 Drew No, listen, I agree. Whatever Mark's problems are, everyone's problems are universal. We're all in the blackout right now talking about deviant sex. No, I'm with- You know what I'm saying. Help me out a little bit. I'm trying to help you out. I'm not proud of it, but I'm exactly the same way.

1:07:39 Caller I would assume that if this is a universal male feature, we'd see alpha male chimpanzees do something like that. Oh, go to the zoo. They would go share their females and then watch or something. Oh, like they don't? I don't know that. That's my question. They probably do. They probably do.

1:07:52 Adam They probably do, man.

1:07:54 Drew I don't think there's a man alive who does not have some issue with his woman and another guy.

1:08:01 Caller It's a territorial thing.

1:08:03 Adam If it is just, who have you been with and how many times? If it's just that. I mean, there's a spectrum there that we all subscribe to. Whether you go to A or B, or A to Z, there's something there that we all subscribe to. I don't care what anybody says.

1:08:15 Caller But the theory is to preserve our genetic pool. We want our genes to be the one transmitted. But then why would we want to watch some other guy?

1:08:21 Adam It's a scientific approach. But what I'm saying, though, there is like, who was the last guy you were with? How many times? How many guys? And we all share that. This guy's taking it to the next level. This, you know, whatever. But we all share this. And this is, this is the origin of what he's talking about.

1:08:35 Drew Yes.

1:08:36 Adam Please, someone.

1:08:37 Sugar Ray I'm gonna get an amen.

1:08:39 Drew Listen, you're getting paranoid here, Mark.

1:08:41 Caller It's the speeds kicking in.

1:08:42 Drew I am behind you 1000% with this. But when it gets to the point where you're actually acting on it, I think that's when you have a problem. If it's a little fantasy that skips through your mind while you're getting a BJ, that's fine.

1:08:56 Adam Okay. When do you define that as acting on it? If you're talking about it as fantasy or it's when you actually have that person in the room, I guess there's different levels.

1:09:02 Drew When you actually bring that person into the room.

1:09:05 Adam Now I'm out of the conversation.

1:09:07 Drew Yeah.

1:09:07 Sugar Ray So then it's bad.

1:09:08 Adam I'm pretty good, but I'm not that good.

1:09:09 Sugar Ray You gotta figure out what you've seen in the past now, okay?

1:09:11 Drew Yeah. And there are a certain amount of guys who do this, and then they end up making the woman pay for it later on, and it's all part of this sort of degradation, misogyny circle.

1:09:20 Adam That's right, gotcha.

1:09:21 Drew It's a merry-go-round, it's tough to get off.

1:09:23 Caller It's a cycle.

1:09:24 Drew All right.

1:09:25 Adam Grab the golden ring.

1:09:26 Drew That's right, hop on that pony, go up and down. We'll take ourselves a little break, Sugar Ray, and we'll be back after this.

1:09:35 Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready. Get ready, get ready.

1:10:09 Drew Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Drew over there. Murphy Karges is here from Sugar Ray, and so is Mark McGrath, theoretically. Let's all just take a little rest before Mark comes back in.

1:10:20 Sugar Ray He's out there somewhere in the hall.

1:10:21 Caller Enjoy the peace.

1:10:22 Sugar Ray Yeah.

1:10:22 Caller This is the moment of silence.

1:10:23 Sugar Ray Now I can talk.

1:10:29 Caller Let's go.

1:10:29 Caller We're all going to start menstruating together.

1:10:32 Drew Let's go to a place far away where there's music and wind. Mark's back.

1:10:39 Sugar Ray Here he is.

1:10:39 Drew Mark Grath, Sugar Ray. Phone number 1-800-LEV-191. The great Minka is going to be in here tomorrow night.

1:10:44 Sugar Ray I saw a picture of her. We just saw pictures of her.

1:10:46 Adam She's amazing.

1:10:47 Drew Thank you.

1:10:48 Sugar Ray Amazing. She, yeah.

1:10:50 Drew That's my woman you're talking about.

1:10:51 Adam That's what took me a while to get back here.

1:10:54 Drew Cindy?

1:10:55 Caller Yes.

1:10:56 Drew You're 35.

1:10:57 Caller Yes, I am. Yeah.

1:10:58 Adam A real woman.

1:10:59 Caller First of all, Adam, I like worship you. I think you're the funniest person alive.

1:11:02 Drew Oh, thank you.

1:11:03 Adam Did you see how hot he is?

1:11:04 Caller Dr. Drew, I love you too.

1:11:05 Caller Why?

1:11:07 Caller Why? What's going on?

1:11:09 Caller I'm a heroin addict, and I'm once again newly clean after another relapse, and you know, every time, I gotta be kind of quiet, sorry, every time that I get clean, I mean, I, you know, become really kind of inappropriate sexually, and I mean, I always was when I was drinking, but when I did heroin, obviously, I didn't care about that, but it's like this time, it's really weird. I'm like getting into like degrading sexual behavior.

1:11:33 Caller Cindy, that all activates the same part of the reward system. And that is a relapse, okay? You've got to contain all this because all those behaviors, acting out violently, stealing things, sexually shopping, all that is activating the same system. So what that's... Snowboarding. Yes, snowboarding too. What that's saying is that you've got a lot of very heavy feelings you're trying to manage, and the only way your brain knows how to manage them is activating this reward system that you've been utilizing.

1:12:01 Drew How do you mean degrading, toward you or your partner?

1:12:04 Caller No, like me, like spitting on me and smacking me in the internet.

1:12:08 Drew God bless women, when they say degrading, they mean them. And we mean degrading, we mean you and you. I'm getting very degrading on your ass.

1:12:18 Caller I often get into this stuff, and as one of them said to me, they said, oh yeah, that pins my pupils. Meaning, you know, they're trying to get that same thing going again.

1:12:26 Caller I thought I was doing so well because I wasn't feeling this time.

1:12:29 Caller But it's the same thing, and what you've got to know is behind that there's some very, very painful feelings that you've got to sit down with your sponsor and slog through. Because until those feelings are really brought out and you're experienced with another person, i.e. the sponsor, this isn't going anywhere. You're going to head on back to the island. Sorry.

1:12:46 Drew So you do the heroin and then you stop the heroin, but that sort of is replaced by behaviors. Filling the blank activity.

1:12:52 Caller Yeah, and I'm like, so inappropriate sexually, like just even flirtatious, and I mean, I'm out of control.

1:12:57 Drew Give us the most inappropriate thing you've ever done.

1:12:59 Caller You can really horny over here. What is it?

1:13:01 Caller Today, I was at a meeting and I just started talking to this guy, just like totally inappropriate about things I like to do sexually, like, you know, really like not conversation stuff. You know what I mean?

1:13:11 Drew I got to get out to one of those. Yeah.

1:13:13 Caller Well, guys will do that to you. You may want to go to an essay meeting too, Cindy, while you're at it, because sexual addiction is part of the addictive process, and if that piece is also there for you in a substantial way, it may need to be dealt with.

1:13:24 Caller I'm going to go into it. It's over-learning for women and children in January, because I know I need to be away from men. I mean, I know.

1:13:30 Caller Yeah, and you may need to go sooner than later. But again, check out Essay and just get going with your sponsor and sit down and just really get into this stuff.

1:13:36 Caller All right.

1:13:37 Drew All right, Cindy. And loving you, baby.

1:13:39 Caller Okay.

1:13:40 Drew I could degrade you good.

1:13:41 Caller I like it.

1:13:42 Drew Come here, you junky bitch, hold still. Yeah, you like it, taste it. Tastes good, doesn't it? That's right.

1:13:48 Caller That's right.

1:13:49 Drew I whacked off with some poop earlier, you like that? That's good. I ate dog food before I took a crack too, so it was really nasty, but that's not cauliflower and pineapple and what not, that's dog, that's cow can there, baby. I'm getting horny, man. Bark like the dog poop that's on my penis. Ass, grass, sandwiches and brown sauce.

1:14:09 Caller Oh, yeah. Remember that?

1:14:10 Drew Yeah. Yeah, it was one of our better calls. All right, Cindy.

1:14:13 Caller Bye.

1:14:14 Drew I'm good at degrading. I haven't told the story in a little while, but I dated a stripper for a while. She's a little bit crazy. She was great. She was a little crazy, though, and she had a little problem with guys, and she wanted a little degrading. She wanted a little tough love, a little naughty talk.

1:14:32 Caller Slapping the ass.

1:14:33 Drew Slapping the ass. So she said, she goes, start talking. Come on, come on, get mean. Come on, get dirty, get nasty, get mean, get insulting. Let's start talking. And I go.

1:14:42 Adam How do you push that again?

1:14:44 Drew I was tired, and I go, well, I don't like your mom. I had an ass full of her. And she was like, what are you talking about? I was like, that's the meanest thing I can think of. I really, I hate that lady. Then she gets angry. And I'm like, I'm telling you, seriously, that's the meanest thing I could think of. But I mean it. I hate her. She's like, all right, forget it. Get out of here.

1:15:11 Adam That's always scary though.

1:15:11 Drew Yeah. She was English. It was great.

1:15:14 Adam Pushing the envelope. Talk to her to me. Okay.

1:15:18 Drew I hate your mom.

1:15:20 Adam Yeah.

1:15:20 Drew Like the Banger Friends.

1:15:21 Caller Yeah. What?

1:15:23 Drew Put some weight on. You talk about being smart, but I've seen those signs. Yeah. Dirty means kind of like movie dirty. They don't mean reality dirty. Right.

1:15:37 Adam But careful what you ask for, man.

1:15:38 Drew You know what I mean?

1:15:39 Adam Careful what you ask for. If you want to go in that territory, you better wear a helmet.

1:15:44 Drew Ben?

1:15:46 Adam Ben, are you wearing a helmet?

1:15:47 Caller Yeah.

1:15:48 Drew You're 16. What's up?

1:15:50 Caller Basically, I'm taking a bunch of medicines and they're really killing my sex drive.

1:15:54 Caller Let me see.

1:15:55 Drew What medicines you on?

1:15:56 Caller Let's see. Clomidine, Prozac.

1:15:59 Caller Prozac was killing your sex drive.

1:16:01 Caller Respiradol.

1:16:02 Caller Respiradol is not helping.

1:16:03 Caller Depakote and Symmetra.

1:16:06 Caller You got to talk to your doctor about this fact because it's not something you have to tolerate there. There are things they can do to help you. Prozac really shuts down people's sex drive.

1:16:14 Caller Okay.

1:16:14 Caller That may be the one.

1:16:15 Drew What's he got? Ben, just to save time next time someone asks you what you're taking, just tell them what you're not taking.

1:16:20 Caller Yeah.

1:16:21 Drew We'll get through the call. Why are you on all of this stuff at 16?

1:16:26 Caller Tourette's syndrome and ABD.

1:16:28 Drew Wow.

1:16:29 Adam Tourette's is cool.

1:16:30 Drew Yeah. You got a full house there. Drew, what about it? Needs to be on all this stuff?

1:16:37 Caller Yeah, probably.

1:16:39 Drew What about, I mean, I know I'm not him, but is it all, he's 16, does he? He's got a lot of, he's got a lot of irons in the fire. You know what I mean emotionally?

1:16:48 Caller Yeah.

1:16:48 Drew I mean, does he need a sex drive right now?

1:16:50 Caller What's the point?

1:16:51 Adam 16, as a male? Are you kidding me?

1:16:53 Sugar Ray Well, I-

1:16:53 Adam It's your bread and butter, baby.

1:16:54 Sugar Ray Oh, world.

1:16:55 Adam Come on.

1:16:55 Drew Just me and Kenny, I don't know, maybe- You ready for Cheryl Teague's poster?

1:16:58 Adam Come on.

1:16:59 Sugar Ray What do you mean?

1:16:59 Drew Yeah, I mean, can he like work on his own crap for a little while?

1:17:02 Sugar Ray Yeah, it's because he needs all this.

1:17:03 Drew There's stuff going on in his life.

1:17:05 Adam It's pretty heavily medicated to me.

1:17:07 Caller You are, and I would just say, you don't have to tolerate a drop in sex drive. You can talk to the doctor about alternative interventions.

1:17:13 Sugar Ray More medicine.

1:17:14 Caller Or things they could add.

1:17:15 Adam All right.

1:17:15 Caller Like the Wellbutrin.

1:17:16 Adam The Prozac is the sexual drive killer then.

1:17:18 Caller Period. The Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, they really shut it down.

1:17:22 Adam How about the Z-PAC? I'm on a sit-through max right now.

1:17:24 Caller No, no, this makes sense. We'll see. But Wellbutrin, Remeron, and Serizone don't do that.

1:17:29 Drew But when your sex drive is gone, I always ask you this, how do you know? I mean, do you care? I mean, it's like not being hungry. Some people, yeah.

1:17:37 Caller You're not hungry.

1:17:37 Drew Do you miss it?

1:17:38 Caller Yeah, when it's subtle, some people don't. And it can be kind of a problem because some people are depressed because they're not in a relationship and then suddenly they don't want a relationship. But in other people, it's such a profound shutdown. It's just bizarre. People touching looks kind of like, ooh, why?

1:17:54 Adam Especially at that age, I mean, that's when your flower is blooming.

1:17:58 Caller Yeah, and going from jet fuel to nothing is going to be really jolting.

1:18:03 Adam Concord to a sesanose, kind of rough.

1:18:05 Drew Right, yeah.

1:18:07 Adam That made sense.

1:18:07 Drew My flower was in full bloom, but alas, there was no bee to pollinate me. So I had to pollinate my hamper.

1:18:14 Adam Right, full amoeba.

1:18:16 Sugar Ray You're on territory.

1:18:18 Drew Shanna?

1:18:19 Caller Hey.

1:18:20 Drew You're 16, what's up?

1:18:21 Caller Um, I was wondering, cause this is for Dr. Drew.

1:18:25 Caller Yeah.

1:18:26 Caller Um, you were saying earlier about how, like, you know how when you go to A's and they sell you, like, other crap besides E, and how that was, like, actually better for you than actually taking E? Like, I was just wondering if that was true, cause...

1:18:38 Caller Well, not better for you, but not as, not as known to be as clearly dangerous as the E itself.

1:18:44 Drew Well, what do you mean? Like, what kind of other stuff?

1:18:46 Caller Well, it depends what the other stuff is. I mean, oftentimes they're giving you heroin and LSD, or speed and LSD, and LSD is getting close to ecstasy in terms of the damaging effects, but ecstasy, we know, is a profound neurotoxin, and there really isn't anything more damaging to your brain that you can get, that you can ingest right now.

1:19:02 Drew So...

1:19:03 Caller Like, even if you don't take that much of it?

1:19:05 Caller Yes.

1:19:06 Adam Even if you're in a rave in Palm Desert, you do a half, your high school friends are there, it's all cool, and the Daft Punk is playing.

1:19:13 Sugar Ray You got a bunch of friends around you.

1:19:15 Adam That's bad news though, it's a scary thing.

1:19:17 Caller Okay, so like, everything is just still bad, but...

1:19:20 Adam If it feels good, it's bad, alright?

1:19:23 Caller Yeah, there's no free lunch in nature. When you do stuff that's overstimulating to parts of the brain, they shut down, they go away. And so then you don't have those parts of your brain working anymore, so you can't feel good anymore.

1:19:34 Drew I'm trying to think of the best, cheapest buzz. I mean, to me, don't eat for a couple of days and just drink a little bit. We don't have to take that much in. Yeah, is that a good angle there?

1:19:46 Caller Let's explore ways we can advise young kids how to achieve throughout.

1:19:49 Adam The cheapest buzz is family, just being tight with them. It's the holiday season.

1:19:55 Caller You're gay.

1:19:56 Adam I am gay.

1:19:57 Sugar Ray You deviated from your career.

1:19:58 Adam Queer as fall, watch it.

1:19:59 Drew Molly?

1:20:00 Caller Yeah?

1:20:00 Drew You're 15, what's up?

1:20:02 Caller I have a question for Mark.

1:20:04 Adam Yes, Molly.

1:20:06 Caller Me and my friend are in love with you and we love the candies commercial.

1:20:09 Adam Yes.

1:20:09 Caller We were wondering.

1:20:10 Drew Oh, yeah.

1:20:10 Caller I forgot about that. What is that?

1:20:12 Drew He's raping this girl in the shower.

1:20:14 Caller Yeah, we heard about that.

1:20:15 Adam She was consenting.

1:20:16 Caller And how it got banned from TV.

1:20:18 Adam Yeah.

1:20:18 Caller And we want to know how you feel about that.

1:20:20 Adam Well, it's kind of funny because I watched a little Kim video and it's like the next level of degradation. Then I watched my thing and it's not a big deal. It's funny, it's sort of the hype machine working over time. And if you've seen any of the sort of the publicity shots of it, it's very tame, it's very mild. And it's...

1:20:41 Drew Was that Alyssa Milano?

1:20:42 Adam No, it was Jodie Linoke from Nash Bridges. Hold on. Is that your mom? Oh, yeah, it's fine, mom. She can watch.

1:20:49 Drew So you did like a stenture shower thing, right?

1:20:52 Adam Yeah, but everybody's wearing body suits and it was just sort of implied. And it just got blown away out of proportion, but it's kind of funny the way, you know.

1:21:00 Drew Right. I liked it. It was like that scene from Kentucky Fried Movie, where the chick's getting porked in the shower and her boobs are smashed up again.

1:21:06 Adam Catholic schoolgirls rule, remember?

1:21:08 Drew Yeah, in trouble, yeah.

1:21:09 Adam No, but it's harmless, but it's funny to see the controversy evolve.

1:21:12 Drew All of Mark's best work ends up on the editing room floor.

1:21:15 Adam It really does.

1:21:17 Drew Candy, the whole thing.

1:21:19 Caller Look at the buzz it's creating, though.

1:21:20 Adam Yeah, that's what it's about. People are talking about it. You know, at the end of the day, we're talking about nothing.

1:21:26 Drew Right.

1:21:26 Adam How about that election?

1:21:27 Drew Was fine. Your body suit, do you have an erection?

1:21:30 Adam I had a complete re-knob.

1:21:33 Drew Really?

1:21:34 Adam What? It's a boner backwards.

1:21:35 Drew Yeah, you'd have to.

1:21:36 Adam No, I did. I'm a human being, I'm a male.

1:21:38 Drew You'd have to. Yeah.

1:21:39 Adam She's a great looking girl and it was a lot of fun to do, and they paid me for it. That's the funny thing.

1:21:44 Drew I know. So it's like the prostitute giving you 20 bucks.

1:21:47 Adam Here, you were good. Later.

1:21:49 Drew Sarah? You're 20.

1:21:52 Caller What's up?

1:21:53 Caller Okay. Relying on masturbation, I have no problem getting myself off, but whenever I'm with a guy, like sexually, I just can't get satisfied. Yeah.

1:22:08 Drew Even through oral sex?

1:22:10 Caller Well, I love foreplay and stuff, but in an orgasm like that, it's just like-

1:22:15 Drew Well, that's not bad, right?

1:22:17 Caller Even if they have a big dick or whatever, okay, sorry, my phone's going out.

1:22:21 Drew I see.

1:22:21 Caller But I can't get excited.

1:22:25 Adam How about this?

1:22:26 Caller Even if they're totally hot, because I'm pretty hot, so it's like-

1:22:30 Adam You sound hot.

1:22:30 Caller I'm a pretty hot guy.

1:22:31 Adam Well, let me tell you something. Help yourself along in the process of us making love to you. It's not a big deal. The guys usually don't care.

1:22:37 Caller No, no, no, I do. I do because I love from the back and I love on top. And I like sit on top of it all the time, like stick my hands like, you know, like whatever. I don't know if it's just because like, I don't know if it's just because I'm like...

1:22:48 Caller Maybe you're not really... You may not be really into the guys you're with.

1:22:52 Caller Probably.

1:22:52 Caller Yeah. Maybe a more connected relationship over a period of time we can work this stuff out.

1:22:57 Drew Well, but Sarah, you said you had an orgasm during foreplay, right?

1:23:01 Caller Not really. I kind of faked it. But I can sport orgasm by myself.

1:23:06 Drew I see. So you never had one via the oral sex route.

1:23:10 Caller With a guy, no.

1:23:11 Adam The irony of that is that usually girls that can masturbate and bring themselves to climax usually can't have sex, usually can't climax with a guy having sex because they know how to do it themselves.

1:23:19 Caller Yeah.

1:23:20 Adam Sort of like a role reversal there.

1:23:22 Caller Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:23:22 Adam I think you just keep trying.

1:23:23 Sugar Ray You can get and stay with a guy.

1:23:25 Caller No, that's why like I don't get and so I'm like, so the girl had asked me like, oh, have you ever like had a boyfriend or ever? And I haven't just because I get sick of guys really fast. I just kind of like, you know, I think they're in there.

1:23:36 Caller They're in the problem.

1:23:37 Caller After like two months and kind of just, you know.

1:23:39 Caller They're in is the problem.

1:23:40 Adam Nothing wrong with loving yourself.

1:23:42 Caller Yeah. You'll you'll once you find the right guy, this will probably take care of itself, I suspect.

1:23:46 Drew But, you know, it's funny, guys are so mechanical. I mean, it doesn't matter where their head is at. It doesn't matter if they hate chicks and they hate mama and every time they have sex or have sex with mama or the devil or whoever it is, they can get off.

1:23:58 Adam It's a task to us.

1:23:59 Drew Every time.

1:24:00 Adam There's a goal to be reached.

1:24:01 Drew Every time they can get off. But women, if they ain't in the right place emotionally and Sarah's far from that place. I mean.

1:24:08 Adam Yeah, but what's so weird, like I said, I'm like, if you can by yourself.

1:24:12 Drew Yeah, I know.

1:24:13 Caller But she can kind of get to that place by herself, when she's with a person, it doesn't. It doesn't block him out.

1:24:18 Drew You know what I mean?

1:24:18 Adam Big deal.

1:24:19 Drew I agree, though, with Mark, in that I look at the vagina like a baseball mitt. And when you first get it, it's tough. It doesn't work that well. It's not that good. But after, you know, you oil it up, oil it up, have dad park the car on it overnight, sleep on your new bed, put it under the mattress between the box screen, the mattress, really work it in, put a belt around it, stuff a ball in there and really work. After a while, it gets worked in and then it starts closing by itself. You don't have to squeeze it. Something just hit it and it'll come down on him like a Venus flytrap. That's how the vagina is and they loosen up like a slot machine or something. I don't know.

1:24:53 Adam No better fit.

1:24:54 Drew When they go, they go and she's going, she's paying off at home but she's driving with a guy and I do agree that's an emotional thing. All right, we're going to take a break. We'll be back.

1:25:03 Caller Hello, this is your radio.

1:25:06 Loveline will be right back.

1:25:45 Drew All right, Edith Loveline, Mark and Murph, you're both here from Sugar Ray, Drew is here from Pasadena. Minka will be here from Korea. Yeah. Tomorrow. That's going to be a big show. And like I said, those of you who think I was exaggerating when I was doing my impersonation of Minka, you will learn tomorrow night.

1:26:03 Adam She will love you a long time.

1:26:04 Drew There is no hyperbole there.

1:26:05 Adam She's amazing.

1:26:06 Drew At all. Chrissy, do you saw the picture?

1:26:08 Adam Personal drive-through.

1:26:09 Drew Chrissy.

1:26:10 Caller Hello.

1:26:11 Drew Year 21. What's up?

1:26:13 Caller Well, I wanted to ask Mark if he had any plans on getting into another movie again like he did in Father's Day.

1:26:20 Drew Well, there's ER the movie.

1:26:22 Adam Yeah. Well, after my ER experience, I was not waiting for the phone to ring. But I'm going to make this next record with Sugar Ray and see what that takes us. But acting is tough. It's very tough, but it's something that maybe in the future I'd like to get into. But right now, I'm just concentrating on the band.

1:26:41 Caller Yeah, that's cool.

1:26:42 Adam Yeah.

1:26:44 Caller Then I have a question for Dr. Drew. Okay. I've been in two back-to-back relationships for the past five years, and I just got out of one about six months ago. Ever since then, every time I think about getting into anything with another guy, I don't really think of them as a relationship. I just think of them as basically a piece of ass. I know that sounds bad, but-

1:27:08 Drew No, it's good. I'll jack off to that later. It's all going in the hopper.

1:27:15 Caller I haven't really-

1:27:15 Drew The jack hopper. Spin that thing around. You never know what falls out. That's what I love about jacking off. You lie there and you start spinning that jack hopper. Could it be something from high school?

1:27:24 Adam It's about mine Rolodex, right?

1:27:26 Drew I was in Vegas. There's some chicken and buffet. It's pretty hot.

1:27:29 Caller We're Filipino boys.

1:27:30 Drew Something will fall out and your balls will go, well, we're running with it.

1:27:33 Adam Here we go.

1:27:35 Drew There you go.

1:27:36 Sugar Ray That old poster on the wall. You're watching anything.

1:27:38 Adam You're watching Shepard Smith, all of a sudden your balls are in the wall.

1:27:41 Drew Chrissy? All right. So you look at men as just pieces of ass.

1:27:47 Caller Yeah. It's not that I actually go and do anything with them. It's just it kind of turns me out towards the whole relationship thing. And I don't know if I just I don't like guys that much anymore. I don't know if that's just because something is wrong with me or if it's just because I'm 21 or if it's because the fact that my mom had so many around after she divorced my dad and they all sucked.

1:28:09 Caller Probably some combo of all those things, frankly.

1:28:12 Adam Combo played there.

1:28:13 Caller It sounds like you were clinging to idealized relationships and those didn't really pan out. They didn't turn out to be to solve your problems. And now you're going the other extreme.

1:28:21 Drew Well, as long as we're talking with food analogies, I would say that the multiple boyfriends who are pricks that your mom brought home would be the entree and the sick of guys is sort of the salad and the been in too many long-term relationships sort of the soup. But the main entree, the South of America state is definitely that. Did any of those guys get to you?

1:28:48 Caller No.

1:28:49 Caller But again, I suspect the kind of mode you're in is idealizing the relationships. They fall out, so you de-idealize.

1:28:58 Caller Well, it's almost like, I mean, yeah, I can understand that because I kind of cling to them even when they suck.

1:29:04 Caller That's right.

1:29:05 Caller It got to the point where I would get bored and I would pick fights with the people just so I'd have a reason to leave.

1:29:11 Caller Well, that's, again, this is sabotaging. This is not wanting to be vulnerable. You should sort this out, but the problem is you may pick some awful guys along the way here.

1:29:21 Drew Listen, you've been in two real long-term relationships, right? Why don't you just take a little break?

1:29:25 Caller Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. It's just hard because they don't really like leave me alone.

1:29:31 Drew Are you hot? Let's go on to the jack-off.

1:29:35 Adam Thank God nobody's normal out there. We're all the same.

1:29:39 Drew As so many women, and men do this too, I think women do it even more. They use relationships in the opposite sex. It's such a big part of how they feel about themselves. Definitely.

1:29:49 Caller What else do you have, though?

1:29:51 Sugar Ray She seems pretty honest with everything. I don't know.

1:29:53 Drew I mean, you got cable.

1:29:54 Adam Yeah, well, exactly.

1:29:55 Drew You get to look at people that are having relationships that make you feel good about yourself. But the thing is, if it's constant, I mean, I- It was the exact same way. I just couldn't get laid. I worked construction. I lived with a bunch of idiots. I slept on a bunk bed when I was 23. And it wasn't coming my way. If it was coming my way, I would have just rode it out until it dried up. And I can't fault a lot of these girls who are cute.

1:30:19 Adam Because you are them.

1:30:19 Drew And who are 20. No, I wish I was them.

1:30:21 Adam Me too.

1:30:22 Drew And it's coming their way and they're not ready to stop.

1:30:25 Caller But can you give any advice that helps them understand where they're at? Helps them understand why.

1:30:30 Drew Well I think we told them. It has to do with the mom and your relationship with her and all these strange guys coming through the house. And now you're kind of freaked out by guys and how you're having a little trouble with the intimacy.

1:30:40 Caller But how does that get so sexualized for people?

1:30:42 Drew Everything turns to sex. Right.

1:30:46 Adam We could break us four down right here right now and have a Loveline show on your own. So that's the interesting thing. You know what I mean? Yeah.

1:30:53 Drew Everything.

1:30:54 Adam I guess that's why we share it now.

1:30:55 Drew Everything gets processed through the brain filter and comes out sex.

1:31:00 Adam Right. Out the lower brain.

1:31:02 Drew And I don't know what that is.

1:31:05 Caller And the filtering process is different from men and women.

1:31:08 Drew Right. But it's the same result as sexuality.

1:31:10 Caller Yeah. Just different.

1:31:12 Adam Yeah.

1:31:12 Caller Men are like, errr.

1:31:13 Drew Men are like, errr. But with women, if, if.

1:31:17 Caller Where do you go to college?

1:31:19 Adam USC man. My dad paid a lot of money to get me in there.

1:31:21 Drew I remember that. I mean.

1:31:24 Adam Alright.

1:31:24 Drew I don't know why. You're surprising. No, you're very intelligent.

1:31:28 Adam You guys used to like me.

1:31:29 Drew No, we do. We still did.

1:31:30 Adam Okay. Give me a call.

1:31:32 Drew Dawn?

1:31:32 Caller Yeah?

1:31:33 Drew You're 25.

1:31:34 Caller Yes. What's up? My husband and I have been married for five years.

1:31:38 Caller And it's, we've all wanted to try a threesome.

1:31:41 Caller It's not like there's anything lacking or anything.

1:31:43 Caller We're just curious about it.

1:31:44 Caller We are or he is?

1:31:45 Caller Both of us.

1:31:46 Caller Well, I am.

1:31:47 Adam You are? We are.

1:31:48 Caller Yeah.

1:31:49 Drew Way, way. Whose idea was it?

1:31:52 Caller Actually, both of us were drunk one night and I had been thinking about it for a while.

1:31:55 Drew I see.

1:31:55 Adam It's a good time for rationale.

1:31:57 Caller He brought it up and I just kind of like, liked the idea a lot.

1:32:02 Drew You want to get a woman in there?

1:32:03 Caller Yeah.

1:32:04 Adam Let me tell you some about that real quickly. Just some hearing stories about people.

1:32:08 Drew Sure.

1:32:09 Adam You can never go back from that. You can have the fantasy. You can have it dance around your head. You can have it be a total phantasia thing, but you can never get back from that. Whether the two of you are capable enough to handle that, I don't know. It's dangerous territory to go into.

1:32:24 Caller I have not seen a relationship that actually survived that.

1:32:27 Adam Well, you don't know me very well.

1:32:28 Caller Yeah.

1:32:29 Adam I'm kidding you. Sorry, Carl.

1:32:30 Caller I'm not saying that you didn't have a relationship that survived for a while with it, but are you still with that person?

1:32:34 Adam Absolutely not, Drew. It's never survived in my experience as well. It's dangerous territory to go into. All kidding aside, it's a serious thing. You can never survive that.

1:32:44 Caller I've never seen a relationship survive. For a while they do, and the people go, we're just exploring, we're this, then all hell breaks loose.

1:32:51 Adam Then the children get involved.

1:32:52 Caller Yeah.

1:32:52 Drew I'd like to add to that. One is, I think that a lot of it is an excuse for women who want to have a lesbian encounter, don't want to admit to being a lesbian, so it makes it okay to be a threesome. What they're saying is, I've never been with a woman, I'd like to try to be with a woman, I don't want to admit I'd like to try to be with a woman, and I'm in a committed relationship, so I'll have a threesome.

1:33:13 Adam When I wake up sober, I'll be really bummed.

1:33:14 Drew But the other part is to sabotage, and the reason it doesn't work is catch 22. It's like the whole reason you had the threesome was to sabotage, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It wasn't the threesome that killed it, it was the idea of having the threesome that was going to sabotage a relationship that killed it anyway.

1:33:33 Adam There's nothing left to be said.

1:33:34 Drew We're going to take a break. All righty, that is it. I want to thank Mark and Murphy from coming in here from Sugar Ray. Always a pleasure, guys.

1:34:16 Adam Thank you guys very much. It's a lot of fun as always, much fun.

1:34:20 Drew Welcome back any time.

1:34:21 Sugar Ray Thank you guys.

1:34:22 Drew Don't make it a wait next time. We'll come back tomorrow night and see you on Minka.

1:34:25 Adam We had something to promote.

1:34:26 Sugar Ray Minka, yeah.

1:34:27 Drew Well, I really do appreciate that. A lot of people come in here and they're plugging around, and they're plugging the project, and they're doing, and all Mark said was he sucked.

1:34:37 Adam Everybody knows that already, so.

1:34:38 Drew Don't watch him on ER.

1:34:40 Adam Minka, Minka, the kid loving clown.

1:34:43 Drew So until next time, I'm Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:34:46 Caller All right, all right, all right, okay.

1:34:49 This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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