Episode 1000754887001

1:08 Voiceover Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:14 Voiceover Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is out of New York tonight. Drew, you there? Yep. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, and we're happy to have again in the studio, the cult. Billy Duffy and Ian Asbury are both here from the band. Ian was not here last time, I believe, Billy and Matt. I've been before. When were you here last?

1:42 The Cult A while ago, maybe in the Holy Barbarians, when I was on my cult hiatus.

1:46 Adam Wow. What? I mean, was it? How many years are we talking about?

1:50 The Cult Quite a few, maybe before you, I think maybe before you were doing it.

1:52 Adam Yeah, I don't remember that, but I do remember Billy. And the new CD is out. It's called Beyond Good and Evil. It was out June 6th. Cult's lining up a large tour date of the States. And we will give some of those tour dates out as the night wears on. We'll also hear something off of the new CD. And how long has it been, 7 years? Is that what I was reading?

2:19 Yeah, 7 years since the last album.

2:21 Adam And when you guys made your last album 7 years ago, did you part on good terms? Or I mean were you bored of each other? Were you pissed at each other?

2:31 The Cult Family, like brothers, you know. It was just the case. I was going, I just, the head went totally. It imploded, yeah. Something snapped and I just couldn't do it anymore. So I ran away.

2:44 Adam And where did you go?

2:45 The Cult Started a new band. Out the frying pan into the fire. And the other band was just totally insane.

2:53 Adam And were you talking to the other members of the cult the whole time?

2:58 The Cult Couldn't get Charlie on the phone. He was in jail. Squeaky was in jail. We sat down two weeks after I left the band. Me and Billy sat down. And we sort of like said, let's dissolve it.

3:14 For a while, yeah.

3:15 The Cult Let's put it to bed for a little while.

3:17 Adam And what made you pick up the phone and get back together?

3:21 The Cult I think it's, you know, again, it's like blood, family, unfinished business. It didn't end when the band originally dissolved. It wasn't a case of ending. It was just a case of necessity to take a break for a while.

3:35 Adam Right. So you felt like you'd get back together at some point?

3:38 The Cult Yeah. Just after the, you know, rejuvenated oneself.

3:42 Adam Well, that point is going to start out here on June 14th. When's that? A couple of days?

3:47 Thursday.

3:48 Adam Thursday. That's in Reno.

3:50 The Cult Two nights, sir.

3:51 Adam Santa Barbara, Sacramento. I'll give all the dates out where you can find the cult. Like I said, we'll hear something off Beyond Good and Evil, the new CD.

4:00 Drew?

4:01 The Cult Yeah.

4:01 Adam What are you doing in New York?

4:03 Drew 48 hours.

4:04 Adam When is that?

4:05 I don't know.

4:06 Adam You're doing it tomorrow?

4:07 Drew Doing it tomorrow and then I don't have no idea when it's going to air.

4:10 All right.

4:10 Drew I have no idea what I'm doing. So it's good.

4:12 Adam Great times. I hope it's a big, big ambush.

4:16 God bless you.

4:17 Drew All right. Maybe this is where I'm finally going to run into the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

4:21 Adam Yes. All right. Drew, you're awake? I know it's late over there. You ready to go?

4:27 Drew All right. I left the Pacific timezone this morning.

4:32 Adam All right, buddy.

4:32 Drew You know what I'm saying?

4:33 Adam Just giving you an easy out. Tom?

4:36 Yeah.

4:36 Adam You're 16? What's up?

4:39 Caller I have a boyfriend and there's this girl that likes me too. But the catch is I'm not positive the girl likes me. My boyfriend lives like two hours away.

4:50 Adam Yeah. How old is he?

4:51 Caller 15.

4:52 Adam So are you gay or are you bi? What are you?

4:54 Caller Yeah, bi.

4:55 Adam Bi? Yeah. You know what I, you know what I, though, eventually you'll be gay, don't you think?

5:01 Caller I'm not really sure about that.

5:03 Drew It's bi-bi, right, Adam?

5:04 Adam Yeah, I think when you're bi, you're saying bi to heterosexuality and hello to homo. That's the way I've always looked at it.

5:11 Caller I don't know about that.

5:12 Adam You don't know. How are your parents? Are they okay with this stuff?

5:16 Caller They don't know. I think my dad would kill me, actually. My mom might be okay with after the initial shock. My dad would like disown me.

5:24 Adam Okay. Well, don't tell them until you move out.

5:26 Caller Right. I plan on telling them, like, leaving a note and then going off to college.

5:29 Adam Right.

5:30 Caller You don't know the country.

5:31 Adam Yeah. Wait until he's done paying for college and then leave the note.

5:34 Drew Exactly. What is that going to do for you?

5:37 Caller I don't know. Just be out of the house.

5:38 Drew Yeah. But wait till you form a series of network of friends at college who can support you through whatever your dad's reaction is.

5:46 Adam Okay. So what's the question, though?

5:48 Caller I just don't know what I should do if I should stay with my boyfriend or whatever.

5:54 Drew Are you committed to him? Is it a monogamous relationship?

5:56 Caller Well, I am to him, but I don't know if he is to me.

6:01 Adam Yeah. He's 15. Who else is he committed to?

6:04 Caller Well, it's like this. I'm exclusive or he's exclusive to me or wait. It's the other way around.

6:13 Adam Right.

6:14 Drew You're exclusive to him, but he does whatever he wants. Yeah. Well, listen, why don't you break that relationship up? Just like decent behavior in any relationship. Break one up and then if you want to start another one, by all means do, but just get rid of it. Clarify the one before you go start hurting people by mudding the situation.

6:29 Adam Yeah. Two hours is a long haul when you're 16. Keep a relationship going. All right. Thanks, Tom. Hey, Tom. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you're confused. You're making me confused. The guy lives two hours away. If you're in love with him, stay with him. If you're not, break it up with him.

6:48 Caller That's it.

6:49 Drew Not just somebody. Maybe. Maybe. By the way, a reason to get in a relationship with someone is not, gee, I think maybe they like me. Therefore, I better be in a relationship. I better go for it. How do you feel about her?

6:59 Adam What about this girl?

7:01 Caller I think I like her. But we've been, I know it doesn't sound like very long, but we've been together about two months.

7:09 Drew Doing what?

7:13 Adam Do you have sex?

7:14 Caller No.

7:15 Adam What are you doing?

7:17 Caller I've met her a couple of times, but nothing really. We've tried to stay away from getting too close just in case something like this would happen.

7:27 Adam Hold on, you and the girl or you and the guy?

7:29 Drew You're talking about the guy.

7:30 Adam I was asking about the girl. Okay, hey listen, Drew?

7:34 Drew Yeah.

7:34 Adam Billy Anne? I don't care.

7:36 I just don't.

7:37 Adam He's bi, he's confused. He can settle it. I don't know what advice to give him.

7:43 Drew Jessica's 19. There's no question there.

7:45 Adam Jessica?

7:46 Caller Yeah.

7:46 Adam What's up?

7:47 Not much.

7:48 Caller Okay, well, my boyfriend was going down on me, and it was going like really good, and then I tinkled in his face.

7:57 Caller What?

7:58 Adam Tinkled is P.

8:00 Caller Yeah.

8:00 The Cult What's going on?

8:00 Caller Is that number ones?

8:01 Adam Yeah, that's number ones.

8:03 Caller Yeah, okay.

8:05 Adam Yeah, so you tinkled on him.

8:06 Yeah.

8:07 Adam Did it get in his mouth?

8:10 Well, yeah.

8:11 Adam I see.

8:11 Drew Adam, just the visual here, somehow the word tinkle doesn't apply?

8:15 Adam No, it really doesn't.

8:17 Drew Doesn't it put something about sitting and tinkling?

8:20 Adam It just doesn't seem like you could tinkle into somebody.

8:23 Drew Into somebody's face, no.

8:24 Adam Yeah. That's a whiz, at least a whiz. Maybe a P, yeah. It's been upgraded to P. So you tinkled on him and what did he do?

8:35 Caller He, like, I was embarrassed and I told him I'm sorry. He said, that's okay. I must have been doing something right because I triggered it.

8:42 Adam Right.

8:42 Drew Yeah, see, Adam, that's my kind of guy there.

8:45 Adam Okay.

8:46 Caller And then he kept going.

8:48 Adam Well, he's all man.

8:49 Drew Medal of Honor.

8:50 Caller That's a keeper right there.

8:51 Drew Yeah.

8:52 Adam How old is he?

8:53 Caller He's 28.

8:54 Caller Oh, and how old are you?

8:56 Caller 19.

8:57 Adam 19. Yeah, he's probably been tinkled on before.

9:02 Caller Oh.

9:03 Adam Yeah, that's pretty old. Can you turn your radio down, goofball?

9:06 Caller Hold on.

9:07 Drew He's probably a loser too, Adam. I mean, that's why he's willing to, you know what I mean? He's a 28-year-old and a 19-year-old.

9:14 Adam Let me find out about this guy. What does he do for a living?

9:17 Caller He works on houses.

9:18 Adam I see. Yeah, that's bad. He does carpentry, huh?

9:23 Caller Yeah.

9:23 Drew Yeah, he's an evil man. What exactly does he do?

9:26 He like, like helps build them.

9:30 Adam Okay.

9:30 Drew Labor, Adam.

9:32 Caller There's a hierarchy right there in the construction world.

9:34 Adam Oh yeah. And he's way down. He's what we would call a goomper in the carpentry world. He's humping lumber and carrying drywall and all that stuff. All right. And how is he other than being okay with tinkling in his mouth? Is he a good guy?

9:49 Caller Yeah. He's a really good guy. He helps take care of my baby and everything.

9:52 Caller Oh.

9:53 Adam Who's the baby from?

9:56 Caller Another guy.

9:57 Adam I see.

9:57 But doesn't do nothing.

9:59 Adam Okay. And everyone getting along okay? Your baby doing okay?

10:04 Yeah.

10:04 Adam Okay. You don't pee on your baby, do you?

10:06 Caller No.

10:07 Drew How old was the father of the baby?

10:09 Caller He's 23.

10:10 Drew Okay.

10:11 Adam Does he give you any money?

10:12 Caller No.

10:13 Drew Why not?

10:14 Because he's a low life.

10:15 Adam Okay. But you can still get some money from him.

10:18 Caller Yeah. I'm taking him to court.

10:19 Adam All right. All right. So you tinkled on the guy. Are you worried that you're going to do it again?

10:24 Well, I don't know.

10:26 Caller I just don't know if you're supposed to do that.

10:28 Drew No, don't worry about it. It's fine. It happens. It's called female orgasmic incontinence.

10:32 Adam You guys ever been tinkled on?

10:34 The Cult Oh, yes.

10:34 Adam You have? Yeah. You mean when they reach orgasm?

10:38 The Cult Yeah.

10:39 Adam Yeah. That's good, right? Yeah.

10:40 The Cult It's perfectly healthy.

10:41 Caller I am within the last two weeks to me.

10:43 Adam Bill, you've been tinkled on recently?

10:45 Caller Very recently.

10:46 Adam What happened?

10:46 Caller It was actually not in America. It was in Canada. I can't be any more specific than that, you know.

10:51 Adam Okay.

10:52 The Cult You give us the problem? Nonspecific tinklage.

10:54 Caller Yeah, it was tinkling.

10:55 Drew Saskatchewan?

10:56 Caller I could probably...

10:57 The Cult Maybe it was in Regina.

10:58 Caller I could narrow it down to a province.

11:00 Adam Right.

11:00 Caller Where they say we a lot.

11:02 Adam Right. So it's like Quebec, Montreal?

11:05 Caller We.

11:05 Drew Good, Adam. Good.

11:06 Adam Thank you. And this took you by surprise, but you're okay with it.

11:11 Caller Well, it was a lady who had kids, and I think that might be related, I think.

11:18 Adam That's an interesting point.

11:20 Drew Yeah, but not that I know. The way stress urinary incontinence is, so if she's bearing down real hard, they might dribble out a little bit, but the actual femoral orgasmic incontinence can happen to young, healthy women.

11:31 Adam Well, was she having an orgasm? Yeah, good work.

11:37 Drew Are you sure it was P and not the female ejaculation?

11:40 Adam It could have been something else.

11:42 Caller Yeah, you might have a point there. I mean, you can't really, you know, you can't dust for vomit, you know, like in spinal tap.

11:49 Adam True.

11:50 Drew Adam.

11:50 Adam Don't burst this balloon, by the way.

11:52 Drew No, no, I just thought of a new product. You know, they have these ure-sticks.

11:56 Adam Yeah.

11:57 Drew You can just pick it out and test it, drop the stick in there.

12:00 Adam Well, listen, the point is, if you can coax something to come out of a woman, you're doing a pretty good job. And that's what Billy has done. Chris?

12:11 Yeah.

12:11 Adam You're 24.

12:12 Caller What's up, guys?

12:13 Adam What's up?

12:14 Caller I've been going out with a girl for about a month. It's going really well. I'm not a virgin, and she is. And I don't want to have sex with her too early because I don't want to have it, you know, damage the emotional relationship. So I want to know what you guys thought is a good kind of guideline for how far along we should be in the emotional relationship before we proceed towards that.

12:30 Drew It's not going to damage the emotional relationship, but it's going to bond her to you like epoxy. I mean, you're going to be bound.

12:39 Adam Do you want that?

12:42 Caller I don't want super-attachment co-dependency, but I mean, I want the intimacy, yeah.

12:47 Adam How long have you been with her?

12:48 Caller About a month.

12:49 Adam Yeah. Everything's going good?

12:51 Caller Yeah, everything's great.

12:52 Adam All right.

12:53 Drew So I just don't want to... I'd say my vote is six months.

12:56 Adam Six months?

12:57 Drew Yeah, it is.

12:58 Adam Why?

12:58 Drew Because listen, this is a woman who's saving her virginity for marriage. She believes on some level if she gives this up to him, that's where it's going, and at six months, he'll know whether there's really a probability of that or not.

13:09 Caller That's a good point.

13:10 Adam How do you know she's saving it for marriage? Did he say that?

13:12 Caller No, she hasn't said that.

13:14 Drew She's 20. She's a virgin.

13:15 Adam Well, maybe she was fat in high school. Is there anything wrong with her?

13:19 Caller Not that I can tell. She seems perfectly normal.

13:21 Adam Why do you think she's a virgin?

13:24 Caller Came from a really small town. Just started college two years ago, so...

13:27 Adam Listen, people who come from small towns have sex with the family members. That's no excuse. Yeah, at 11.

13:34 Caller Please.

13:35 Adam Small town. There wasn't a penis in that town.

13:38 Caller And I think she was just really shy during high school, so...

13:40 Drew No.

13:41 Adam You don't buy that, Drew?

13:43 Drew No, I think people have to make a volitional choice to do that.

13:46 Adam To have sex or not to have sex?

13:49 Drew Not to these days.

13:51 Adam It's kind of funny that you really have to make a choice to not have sex if you're a woman and if a guy you have to make the choice to have sex, but... Chris? Yeah? All right. Why don't you pick her brain a little?

14:01 Okay.

14:02 Adam I think you could at least get some oral sex this weekend.

14:05 Caller All right.

14:06 Drew Okay.

14:06 Thank you, guys.

14:07 Caller All right.

14:08 Adam Yes, enjoy.

14:09 Drew I know that'll be enough for you, Adam. It would stop right there.

14:13 Adam I enjoy oral sex as a guy. A lot of guys aren't into that. I'm into that. That would hold me off.

14:19 Drew No ass.

14:20 Caller Yeah.

14:21 Adam If I could do a couple of years in prison and probably just receive oral sex and be okay. Just FYI, just something you guys...

14:30 Caller In case you break any major loss in federal...

14:33 Adam In case I do any time, just to the other felons. No. I'll blow a guy right at the dinner table. Oh, please. I was totally out of context. Mike? Megan. Oh, Megan. I'm sorry. Megan.

14:45 Hi.

14:46 Adam You're 17. You're on with Billy and Ian from The Cult.

14:49 Caller Hi.

14:50 Hello.

14:51 Caller I just want to say I think you guys are great, Drew and Adam. You do a great job.

14:55 Adam Oh, what about The Cult?

14:57 Caller Who would I...

14:58 Caller I'm not familiar with you guys.

14:59 Adam Oh, you don't know The Cult?

15:01 Caller No.

15:02 Adam Well, 17.

15:03 Caller Yeah.

15:03 Adam Jesus Christ.

15:04 Caller She was 10 when we put our last album out.

15:06 Adam Oh, my God.

15:07 The Cult She wasn't even born when we started.

15:09 Adam So what's up?

15:10 Caller Well, a friend of mine drowned, like, about two weeks ago.

15:14 Caller What happened?

15:15 Adam Tinkled in the man.

15:17 Caller No.

15:18 Caller No.

15:19 Caller Well, he was out swimming with a bunch of his friends and...

15:22 Drew Drinking?

15:24 Caller No.

15:24 Caller He didn't drink.

15:27 Caller But he had had cancer just a while before and he had had to have surgery. And his lungs had gotten really weak from the surgery and everything. And he'd gone swimming and the water shocked his lungs and he couldn't breathe. And, you know, went under and nobody could get him back up. But ever since, you know, I've been like really afraid of water. Not like, you know.

15:54 Drew Megan, that's a very special circumstance. You know, he probably actually had a heart problem from the chemotherapy, too, I bet you.

16:00 Adam And you're calling for Minnesota?

16:02 Caller Yeah.

16:02 Drew Lots of lakes.

16:03 Adam Yeah, there's 10,000 lakes there? You're bound to drown eventually. I mean, doesn't everyone in Minnesota, you figure you're going to get it eventually via the lake. Is it really 10,000 lakes there?

16:14 Caller More.

16:15 Adam More?

16:16 Caller Yeah.

16:16 Adam Yeah.

16:17 Caller Jesus.

16:18 Adam All right. So you've been swimming your whole life and now you're freaked out about it?

16:22 Caller Yeah.

16:23 Drew Yeah, Megan, but you know how to be safe in water. And this is somebody who had... There's two things that come commonly, but can happen from chemotherapy. One is something called pulmonary fibrosis. And another thing is congestive heart failure. And both those things exposed to sort of a shock like cold water could really become acutely decompensated. He gets sick real fast. So it really wasn't that he drowned. It was that he had a complication of his chemotherapy. And he happened to be in water when it happened. And that sort of made it, you know, obviously a terminal event.

16:50 Adam All right. So sorry about that, Megan.

16:52 Drew Yeah, just be safe. It's understandable. You freak out about it. You got to get in there again and start swimming a little bit. Try swimming pool first. Something a little easier, right?

17:00 Adam All right. Well, just turn the hose on yourself just to sort of acclimate yourself and then then go for the swimming pool.

17:07 Drew Okay.

17:08 Adam All right, baby. Take care of yourself.

17:11 The Cult Do you want us to jump in with commentary?

17:13 Adam Yes, please jump in. Do you know anyone who has ever drowned?

17:18 The Cult My brother actually nearly drowned.

17:20 Really?

17:20 The Cult Yeah.

17:21 What happened?

17:21 The Cult He was at Cub Scout Camp.

17:23 Adam They have Cub Scouts in England?

17:25 The Cult Oh, yeah. Where do you think it comes from?

17:26 Adam I don't know.

17:27 The Cult Lord Baden Powell.

17:28 Adam It came from Utah.

17:29 The Cult Yes, it did. Now he was like 11. He went to this Cub Scout Camp and he hated it so much that he flung himself in the swimming pool.

17:38 Caller Oh, my God.

17:41 The Cult With all his clothes on.

17:42 Caller Well, that's a form of-

17:42 The Cult He nearly froze. That's just typical of my brother, but he hated it. They were feeding the kids dry fish cakes.

17:50 Adam Yeah.

17:50 The Cult Just like 13.

17:53 Adam Trying to toughen them up.

17:54 The Cult Horrible.

17:54 Adam Hey, anyone who's ever fallen into really cold water knows that you really can't breathe.

17:59 The Cult I fell in Lake Ontario once when it was cold.

18:01 Adam Yeah. Immediately, you're gasping for air?

18:04 The Cult Oh, yeah.

18:05 Adam How did you fall in?

18:06 The Cult We were playing on the ice floes.

18:08 Adam And you were protesting, so you didn't...

18:10 The Cult No, we were just screwing around.

18:11 Adam And you just fell in?

18:12 Caller Yeah.

18:12 Adam How cold was the water?

18:13 The Cult Really cold.

18:14 Adam Did you immediately go, My friends pulled me out, yeah.

18:17 Caller Yeah, why?

18:17 The Cult By my hood.

18:18 Adam Why is that, Drew?

18:20 Caller I mean, why...

18:20 The Cult Hypothermia, isn't it? Well...

18:21 Adam Yeah, but it's setting in, but...

18:23 Drew You know, I don't know that much about the physiology of it, but if I understand right, the muscle just doesn't function. The muscles for breathing, all those muscles just cease to function real quickly.

18:31 Adam Hey, Pat?

18:32 Yeah.

18:33 Adam You're 33.

18:34 Caller Yeah.

18:34 Adam What's up?

18:36 Yeah. Well, first I need to tell you what happened, and then I want to ask my question.

18:40 Caller All right.

18:41 Okay.

18:41 Caller All right.

18:42 What happened?

18:43 When I was about five years old, and I remember this like it was yesterday, my cousin raped me, and my cousin was like about 11 or 12 years old.

18:53 Caller Great.

18:54 And I told him to stop doing it. And, well, see, we were in the bedroom, and he told me to go into the bathroom, walk across the room, and like four or five of his other brothers were in the bedroom. And so we went into the bathroom, and he told me to get down on all fours, and I did, and he put his penis in me, and he kept going like that, and I didn't scream or anything. And then I kept saying, though, I kept saying, don't do that.

19:23 Caller Stop, stop, stop.

19:24 Stop doing that.

19:25 Drew Why are you so focused on the, I said, stop business?

19:28 Because I didn't want him to do it, and he kept doing it.

19:30 Drew Of course. Pat, you were five years old.

19:33 Caller Yeah.

19:33 Drew Of course you didn't want him to do that.

19:35 Caller Yeah.

19:35 Adam Yeah.

19:37 Drew No five-year-old wants someone to do that to them.

19:39 Caller No. Yeah, of course not.

19:41 Adam All right. So what's up now, Pat?

19:43 Caller Well, I never told anybody about this. I mean, I like blocked this out of my mind until like 1992.

19:51 Adam Right.

19:52 Caller From like 1974 till 1992. I didn't think about it. I didn't even have anything like that in my mind until one day it popped into my head.

20:05 Drew And it's been there, believe me, it's been in the wiring in your head all along. All right.

20:09 Adam So what's the question, Pat?

20:10 Caller Okay. I was going to a therapist in 1992 and I told her that I had thoughts about having sex with young children. Just thought I would never do it because I don't want to go to prison.

20:23 Adam Right.

20:24 Drew If you listen to this show, you know that's what happens when people are sexually abused, right? Those are the people that then abuse other children and children oftentimes abuse other children before they even reach adulthood.

20:33 Adam Well, everyone just abuses everyone now. I think it's a pandemic. But what's up?

20:38 Caller Well, the therapist said, if you don't quit having those thoughts, I'm going to recommend that you have shock treatment.

20:44 Adam All right.

20:45 Drew No.

20:46 Adam Really?

20:46 Caller And I was like, why not?

20:48 The Cult Was the therapist's name is Frankenstein?

20:50 Drew Well, shock therapy won't do anything for those thoughts.

20:52 Caller I don't know. I was in Las Vegas at the time when she told me this. And I also came across compulsive gambling. I'm 33 now. I started gambling when I was 21 and it just took off. And I would blow my money and blow checks and quit jobs and everything.

21:10 Drew All right. What's the question, Pat?

21:12 Caller Okay. Should I go back to another therapist and go through this?

21:15 Adam Yeah.

21:16 Drew Yes. Yes, definitely.

21:17 Adam Maybe two therapists.

21:19 Drew Stock therapy, if it would work for obsessions like this, we'd use it, but it doesn't. It's not specifically for this kind of thing at all.

21:25 Adam All right. So Pat, get back into therapy and keep doing your work.

21:29 Caller Okay.

21:30 Drew And contain those impulses.

21:32 Caller Oh, yeah.

21:33 Adam Oh, yes.

21:33 Drew 60 percent of people who have been abused, abuse.

21:35 Adam And listen, all of you contain your impulses no matter what it is. Whatever you have an idea to do, don't do it. Take a nap instead. That's what I do.

21:44 Caller Take a cold shower.

21:45 Adam Yes. I beat off.

21:45 The Cult Have a wank and rollover.

21:47 Adam I have a wank and a rollover and I take a nap.

21:49 Caller And a nice cup of tea.

21:51 The Cult Yeah. You can treat yourself to a nice cup of tea afterwards.

21:53 Adam I will wank in a nice cup of tea and then...

21:56 The Cult Not mine you won't.

21:56 Caller Not in this cup of tea.

21:57 Adam No, man. I'm sorry. How dare you. It's a very snooty band, Drew, this cult. Drew is over there in New York. We're over here in LA. Billy and Ian are both here from the cult. We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll come back. We'll hear something off the new CD, Beyond Good and Evil and give you some tour dates and take some more calls and all that after this.

22:20 Caller Hello, is this Loveline?

22:21 Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.

22:59 Adam Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Tricky's gonna be in here tomorrow night. The Cult is here tonight. Billy and Ian are both here. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD. I think we just heard something off of that. I think we're gonna hear something else off of that after we take this next call. Josh?

23:19 Yeah, how you doing?

23:19 Adam You're 19?

23:21 Caller I am.

23:21 Adam What's up?

23:23 Caller Well, I've been seeing this girl for a couple days now, and, I don't know, like, we will come back to my house for a little while and nobody's here. And, like, I'll try and get her off by, like, you know, going down on her for a little while.

23:38 Adam Yeah.

23:39 Caller And it really never works, but I usually go for, like, probably a half hour or so.

23:46 Adam Yeah.

23:46 Caller I mean...

23:47 Adam God bless you. That's right. You still try.

23:51 Caller Yeah. We'll see. The thing is, I've never really had problems with that before, you know? I've had, like, probably five or six different partners.

24:00 Drew Yeah. Some women, just like with some men, don't really get off with that action.

24:06 Adam Well, not... You know, when they're 18, they don't do it as much as they do at 38.

24:11 Drew Yeah, but some women, the ones that are sort of multi-orgasmic or that have orgasms during intercourse are the ones that aren't tending to have the orgasm with the oral sex as much.

24:21 Caller Well, another thing that she told me was that she masturbates like two or three times a day, so...

24:27 Drew See? She's the multi-orgasmic type.

24:30 Adam Yeah, but listen, if she masturbates two or three times a day, she should enjoy a good oral sex and...

24:38 Caller Well, yeah, that's what I was thinking.

24:39 Adam Yeah? Well, what about sex? You don't have sex with her?

24:43 Caller Oh, I do. It usually builds up to that. You know, when that's not working, I'll be like, well, you know, well, I mean, you know, it usually works up to that, so.

24:52 Yeah.

24:54 Caller But...

24:55 Drew How does it go then?

24:56 Adam Yeah, how's the intercourse go?

24:58 Caller Pretty good.

25:00 She's...

25:01 Caller She usually... I usually climax before she does this, so...

25:04 Yeah.

25:05 Adam And how does she climax after you climax?

25:09 Caller Well, I usually switch back over to something else. We try different things, but that's my problem. I've never really gotten her off before.

25:19 Adam I see.

25:19 Drew Ah, okay. You didn't say that.

25:21 Adam Well, he said he climaxes before she does, but he didn't necessarily say she did or she didn't. It's just before. If she did, it would have been before. All right, so she's masturbating three times a day?

25:35 Caller Apparently, this is what she tells me.

25:37 Adam What is her technique? Does she use a vibrator?

25:40 Caller Actually, yeah, she's... It's like a finger thing is what she tells me, and I've been listening to the show for a while.

25:46 Drew Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What does she use?

25:48 Adam Does she use a vibrator?

25:49 Caller No, she, like, fingers herself.

25:51 Adam Okay, stop agreeing with everything I say and then saying something different. It's very confusing. So she just diddles herself?

25:58 Caller Yes.

25:59 Adam Okay, so, you know...

26:00 Drew Adam, I got a certain vibe here all of a sudden. This isn't making sense.

26:04 Adam From Josh, you mean, like, bogus?

26:06 Caller Yeah.

26:08 Drew No.

26:09 Adam No? I don't know. I kind of believe him. Why would he be calling a national radio show and saying he can't give a woman an orgasm? It hardly sounds like bragging. I'm going to believe you, Josh. Cool. Okay, so you just got to hone your technique a little. And why don't you say to her, what do you do? What do you like? How do you do it? You have those orgasms. What do you do to yourself? Why don't you let me do it?

26:31 Caller I was listening to the show a couple of weeks ago and I heard you say something about, like, the faucet in the bathroom.

26:39 Adam Yeah.

26:39 Caller Or the bathtub. I told her about that. And apparently it works. So, you know.

26:44 Drew Well, she doesn't need any help by herself.

26:46 Caller I know. I'm trying to figure out what's going on and what I'm doing wrong or what I'm not doing.

26:50 Drew Why would you recommend to her to do something by herself when that's not the problem?

26:54 Caller Well, I don't know. She was curious about it. I asked her how she goes about doing it by herself, you know. Okay.

27:04 Adam Well, ask her what she likes when you're with her, okay?

27:07 Caller Right.

27:08 Adam All right there, Josh.

27:09 Caller Okay. Just one more thing. Dr. Drew, I saw you on...

27:11 Caller Yeah, go ahead.

27:12 Adam Oh, shut up, Drew.

27:13 Drew Go ahead.

27:14 Caller I saw you on Politically Incorrect the other night at Bill Maher.

27:17 Drew Yeah.

27:18 Caller I thought you made a lot of good points on that show and I just want to commend you for that.

27:21 Adam Thank you, Josh.

27:23 Drew Maybe disarm me so I'm not going to call you bogus.

27:25 Adam When were you on PI.?

27:27 Drew I must have been a repeat. I did one a couple of weeks ago.

27:30 Adam PI., Oprah, 48 Hours. You're big time, Drew.

27:33 Caller How about with that last guy, how about combining the actual sex with her diddling herself while they're doing it and then both things are happening at once and maybe...

27:43 Drew This is why we have rock stars on the show.

27:44 Caller That might satisfy both people at the same time. He seems like it's a pressure gig, like he's a failure. It's not really his problem.

27:52 Adam Well, he's doing what guys do, which is he's treating her vagina like he's trying to disarm a bomb or something like this. He's made it into a project and he's probably freaking her out.

28:03 The Cult But it is.

28:04 Adam It's like disarming a bomb.

28:05 The Cult It is.

28:06 Adam Well, it takes... You don't want to...

28:08 The Cult They do go off occasionally.

28:09 Adam Yeah. Well, Billy knows. When he was in Canada, he had one blow up right in his face. But you know what's weird? And I mean, tell me if you guys have had the same experience, because most women can diddle themselves or... I'm just calling it diddle because it's not using the tub and it's not using a vibrator. It's just kind of using their finger and give themselves an orgasm. But sometimes when you're with that woman and you're having intercourse and you do what Billy said, which is diddle yourself while I'm in you, they go, it's too much or I can't do it.

28:42 Caller It's not the same. It's not the same. It's two different kinds of orgasm, I think.

28:46 Adam Right. But as a guy, if we whacked off and we could somehow get a hand on our penis and simulate our whacking off while we were having sex, we'd just have an orgasm that much faster. You know what I mean? Maybe two orgasms. Why can't they diddle themselves if they're diddling themselves and having an orgasm, then you get in them. Why can't they do it? That's just a poor attitude there, Drew. That's nothing physiological. That's just being a pain in the ass.

29:13 They do it. It's funny.

29:15 Adam They diddle. You know what I love? I love when women do this one where they go like, they diddle and you're in them and they go, too much, too much, too much, too much. They get overwhelmed. The diddling overwhelms them. Guy's never done that. They're really hard to figure out, these women. Let's take ourselves... No, we're not going to take a break. We're going to hear something from the cult. Yes, Drew?

29:38 The Cult Music to Diddle By.

29:40 Adam Yes, off of Beyond Good and Evil, out in the stores as we speak. And this one is called Rise. There you go. The Cult is back, everybody. That is a great song. Thank you. I really do love The Cult. Thank you. Billy and Ian are both here from The Cult. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the new CD. I guess now would be a good time to tell you where they can be found over the next few months with their tour of the United States. Like we talked about, Reno on the 14th, that's Thursday, right? Santa Barbara on the 16th, Sacramento 17th, San Diego 19th, Phoenix 21st, Las Vegas 22nd. They're going to be, they've announced all the Weenie Rose stuff, right? Yeah, good. We'll see them in Irvine Meadows on the 22nd at the Weenie Rose. Oh, sorry, 23rd at the Weenie Rose. Salt Lake City 25th, Denver, Kansas City, Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Boston, New York, Washington DC, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Austin, Anaheim, Los Angeles, Portland, and San Francisco, all in the next upcoming month and a half or two months. So look for the Colt coming to a town near you. Drew is over there in New York. I'm here with the Colt in LA. And let's talk to Alex. He's 26. Alex?

34:32 Caller Hey, how are you guys doing?

34:33 Adam Good.

34:33 The Cult Hey, Alex.

34:34 Caller Hey, I had a question for Ian. I was just wondering what your inspiration was for Sweet Soul Sister. Because, I mean, that was like one of the songs that you guys were like greatly known for. I mean, at least like in the early 90s.

34:48 The Cult I think it was about Angela Davis, Black Panther. I wrote it in Paris.

34:54 Caller Oh, really?

34:55 Adam That was early 90s?

34:57 The Cult No, it was like late 80s, 89s, 80s, 90s.

34:59 Adam Yeah, that's what I thought was more there. Hey, Alex?

35:03 Caller Yeah.

35:03 Adam Yeah, did you get that?

35:05 Caller Yeah, I'm sorry. I can't really hear.

35:07 The Cult Angela Davis. Did you get that?

35:12 Caller I'm sorry?

35:12 The Cult Angela Davis, Black Panther, Female Black Panther.

35:16 Caller Oh, really?

35:17 Caller Yeah.

35:18 Caller Yeah, I really never realized that because, I mean, that song is like so, I mean, that sound is really known for you guys.

35:27 Adam Yeah, it's soaring.

35:30 The Cult Do you have any sexy questions?

35:31 Caller Yeah.

35:33 Caller Did a man ask a man?

35:35 The Cult How's your equipment? Is it operating?

35:38 Caller Yeah, exactly.

35:39 Adam Everything working, Alex? Hey, are you going to see the cult when they come to Chicago?

35:44 Caller Exactly. That's my point.

35:45 Adam Oh, wait. Are you really high, Alex?

35:50 Caller I wish I was right now.

35:52 Adam All right. Well, you can.

35:53 Drew It's a bad connection.

35:54 Adam Oh, really? Is that what it is? Well, he understood the high question.

35:57 Drew Yeah.

35:58 Adam All right. Let's take her. Do they have black panthers in the UK?

36:03 The Cult They had the white panthers.

36:06 Adam Really?

36:06 The Cult Yeah. The white panthers came out of Detroit and they had the white panthers were like McFarren and the Pink Fairies, kind of an affiliated group.

36:15 Adam But the black panther, the militant black organization, but no black panther in the UK?

36:20 The Cult Not that I'm aware of. There may possibly have been one. I know there's a Hispanic group called the Young Lords about the same time, the black panthers and the white panthers.

36:27 Adam Why don't they head out to England and start up the black panthers?

36:30 The Cult I think it'll be good.

36:32 Adam We're going to take a break. The cult is here and we'll be back. After this. Hey, everybody, it's the Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, and that is Dr. Drew. That is Ian. Yeah.

37:19 Drew So, Ann was pointing out to me that you don't seem to pee as much when I'm not around.

37:22 Adam Yeah.

37:23 Drew You have a shy bladder?

37:25 Adam I have a sympathetic bladder, which is when you have to urinate, it has to urinate. Plus, I like to look at your penis.

37:32 Drew Oh, that's I think what she was getting at.

37:36 Adam You spend your whole life with doctors looking at your penis, but you rarely get to look at a doctor's penis. So, for me, it's exciting to see a doctor's penis.

37:43 The Cult No, I don't have penises. Not if you were the doctor I used to go to in England.

37:46 Adam Really? What did he do?

37:48 The Cult No matter what you went in for.

37:50 Adam He got a look at it.

37:51 The Cult He got my penis out. Yeah.

37:52 Caller You were a good looking.

37:53 The Cult You just peed in here, please.

37:55 Adam That's right.

37:56 The Cult What are you in for? My shoulder hurts. I just urinate into this.

38:02 Adam I like to get you in your underpants and then have you sit around for about four days. Billy and Ian are both here from the cult. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD. Also, Tricky in here tomorrow night, Dave Navarro, Pennywise, 311, Sum 41, a lot of bands in here.

38:17 The Cult Some heavyweights coming in.

38:18 Adam Yeah. In the next few days. But speaking of heavyweights, the cult's here tonight. Owen?

38:23 Caller Yeah.

38:23 Adam You're 18?

38:24 Caller Yeah.

38:25 Adam What's up?

38:26 Caller Well, first, I got a, I want to say, give props to your phone screeners, Damien and Tara. They were both super, super nice to me.

38:32 Adam Oh, good.

38:33 Caller Well, they're good people.

38:34 Adam Thank you.

38:34 Caller Thanks for taking my call. I, lately, probably for the last two or three months, I've been having virtually every night very, very intense dreams. And it's gotten to the point, actually, where I've started to really enjoy them and look forward to them.

38:49 Drew Are they the same themes?

38:51 Caller Well, there is. A lot of them have to do with car chases and car crashes. But they really do sort of run the gamut. I've had everything from, like, being involved in, like, a gunfight to watching a sibling die. I mean, all kinds of different stuff. But the thing is now, like, it's gotten to the point where I really, I don't consider my night restful or complete until I've, like, had one of these really intense dreams. Like, I wake up, like, sort of what prompted me to start calling the shop and trying to get ahold of you guys for a couple of days was I was having one in the morning. I was having a dream where I was driving a car trying to get away from some people who were chasing me, and my dad came in and woke me up. And I got, like, visibly really upset with him for coming in and wake me up out of this dream. Like, I mean, I was, like, screaming at him, and I didn't even know really why. I sort of, like, couldn't control myself.

39:45 Adam At least he didn't catch you beating off, by the way.

39:47 Caller Well, that's been done, too.

39:49 Adam You know, I'm sure.

39:50 Drew Medication, Owen?

39:51 Caller No, no medication at all.

39:53 Drew Nothing? No vitamins, over-the-counter medicine?

39:56 Caller No, you know, I take ibuprofen a little bit because I play a lot of basketball. But, I mean, other than that, no.

40:03 Adam Well, so what do you want to do about it?

40:04 Caller Well, I mean, I don't know. I just, I want it to stop because it's starting to, I mean, as long as it wasn't having negative consequences, like my family or whatever, you know, I wasn't real worried about it. I just figured, you know, I'd have these dreams and, you know, I, because I actually enjoyed it. But now, like, it started to, I mean, you know, I had this problem with something.

40:19 The Cult It sounds like some kind of escapism as well. If you're so absorbed in dreams, it sounds like maybe you're escaping from something. I mean, if you were acting to your father in that way, you know, you're screaming at your father for waking you up. There's maybe something going on there.

40:31 Caller Yeah.

40:32 Adam How's reality going for you?

40:34 Caller Actually really well. I'm a week from graduating from high school and I'm going to Pomona down in Claremont next year.

40:40 Drew Pomona College?

40:41 Caller Yeah.

40:42 Adam Yeah.

40:42 Caller I'm going to Pomona and actually, Drew, I was going to say, you've been a real inspiration to me. I want to be a, I'm going to be a psychiatrist hopefully.

40:48 Drew Good for you. Listen, Pomona is the great way to start. It's a great school.

40:51 Caller Yeah. Yeah. I was real. It was between there or Harvard and I wanted to go to California.

40:55 Drew So God bless you, Pomona is a great school.

40:57 Adam But listen, wait a minute, you couldn't get into Harvard. You would have went to, you would have went to Harvard if you could have gotten to Harvard.

41:02 Caller No, no. It's, I didn't want to go East coast. I've actually, I've got, I've got a 3.9 and a 5th or 1460 SATs.

41:08 Adam Wow, you son of a bitch, I hate you.

41:10 Drew And, and Pomona College is one of the best schools in the country. People in the West Coast don't know that. It's a, it's a farm.

41:15 Adam No, we look at it as a farm town.

41:17 Caller It's funny, I was so excited to get into this, this hype school. And then like I tell people about it and they're like, huh?

41:22 Adam Yeah.

41:22 Drew No, they go, they go, oh and right, they go Cal Poly Pomona? Yeah.

41:25 Caller Oh God, everybody says that. And I'm like, no, it's, it goes away and about it.

41:30 The Cult So dreams aren't a problem then?

41:32 It's the school.

41:33 Drew Here's my concern. Do you have any other symptoms at all?

41:37 Caller Um, you know, not really other than that, I'm a super even keeled guy.

41:42 Drew Because here's my thing. First and foremost, vivid dreams are a common medical symptom. And especially vivid dreams that don't have any specific thematic sort of origins to them.

41:54 Adam Why?

41:54 Drew Things like medication, things like kidney dysfunction.

41:58 Adam Really?

41:58 Drew Things like central nervous system problems. These are very common symptoms. So you've been using a lot of ibuprofen, which can upset your kidney function, can cause bleeding. You could be iron deficient.

42:09 Adam Why does kidney dysfunction cause weird dreams?

42:12 Drew Because you become uremic and uremia changes your brain function. And vivid dreams and having difficulty telling the difference between dream and reality, which it sounds like what happened when he woke up. He wasn't immediately oriented to his waking state. He remained in sort of a REM state and started attacking his dad. This is a biological problem and it needs to be looked into. It might be from all that ibuprofen.

42:32 Adam Really? He says he takes it once in a while.

42:34 The Cult How much ibuprofen are you taking?

42:37 Adam Where is he? Let me get him back. How much do you take, Owen?

42:40 Caller Well I take probably just like the recommended dose. I take two or three a day every other day maybe. But Drew, one other dream symptom that I was having was sometimes when I, especially if I have one early in the night and I wake up, I won't be able to move for a couple seconds.

42:57 Drew So it's a night terror.

42:58 Caller It's a true night terror.

42:59 Caller But I'm not terrorized.

43:01 Drew Yeah, but those being paralyzed states are night terrors. And the other thing that goes with that is seizure type phenomenon. So it really is something that does require a medical evaluation.

43:11 Adam All right, good times. Guy's having some weird dreams. He's got to see the doctor. I mean-

43:17 Drew Hey guys, Adam? What?

43:19 Adam What?

43:20 Drew I don't know how long you studied medicine, but this is the way it goes.

43:22 Adam Listen, Drew, I don't know how long you studied medicine, but who's always right when we argue? How dare you?

43:28 Drew Neither of us.

43:29 Adam Cheryl?

43:29 Yes.

43:30 Adam You're 26.

43:31 Caller I am.

43:31 Adam What's up?

43:33 Caller Well, the possibility I may be pregnant, and within the last two months, I've done ecstasy three times. And I need to know if there's a possibility of causing damage or if there's any... I guess, you know, what can happen.

43:50 Adam Did you not know you're pregnant when you were doing the ecstasy?

43:53 Caller No. I'm on birth control pill. It's taken religiously.

43:59 Adam Okay. So, well, maybe you took the ecstasy and thought it was a birth control pill and that's what got you pregnant. But, Drew, what about this? We never really talk about this, do we?

44:08 Drew Yeah. We don't know. We know the stimulants hurt developing babies, so it's obviously not a good thing. But we don't know for sure on ecstasy. I've not seen any data on that.

44:17 Adam However... Well, three times. Not too much.

44:19 Drew Yeah. Why do you sound like you're doing so much more than just ecstasy?

44:23 Caller No. That's all I'm on, besides smoking.

44:26 Drew You sound depressed.

44:27 Caller No.

44:27 Adam I drink alcohol. Are you supposed to quit smoking when you're pregnant?

44:31 Caller Yes. You are.

44:32 Adam How about that? Are you going to do that?

44:34 Caller Uh-huh.

44:35 Adam What are you going to do?

44:36 Caller Yeah.

44:37 Adam Are you drinking?

44:37 Caller No.

44:38 Adam You're going to raise this kid?

44:40 Caller I already have to. And that's why I want to find out what the effects are and whether I want to pursue keeping the child or not.

44:50 Drew I just read Attic when you... It's not about the ecstasy. What else are you doing?

44:55 Caller Pot? No.

44:56 Adam Nothing else?

44:57 Caller No. That was the first drug I've ever tried.

45:00 Adam Really? You never had any problems with booze, huh?

45:04 Caller No. It runs in the family. I won't go for it.

45:07 Drew It does run in the family.

45:08 Adam Yeah.

45:09 Drew Did you take any prescription medication?

45:11 Caller No.

45:12 Caller Okay.

45:14 Adam You have a man in your life?

45:16 Caller Yeah. I've been married five years now.

45:18 Adam Okay. So if we told you that the kid was going to be defective, you'd give him up for adoption?

45:24 Caller I don't think I would carry it through.

45:26 Drew We can't tell you that for sure.

45:28 Adam Well, listen, we can't with any, you know, super certainty, but three exposures to X, the kid's probably going to be fine.

45:35 Caller Probably.

45:36 Adam What's your husband think?

45:38 Caller My husband told me to call just to see.

45:42 Drew Adam, you're hearing it, Cheryl, what I'm hearing.

45:43 Adam Yeah, I'm hearing like just serious depression.

45:46 Caller Well, I'm concerned about what's going on, whether I want a new child in the life.

45:50 Adam All right, you don't really want this kid. It's not the X. I mean, it doesn't sound like your husband's too crazy about it either.

45:58 Caller No, I love children. I don't want to get rid of it, but I also know the strain that's being put through financially and everything that's going on now. So I'm under a lot of pressure. I'm not depressed about it, but I'm under a lot of pressure.

46:12 Adam You sound depressed. What's your husband do?

46:16 Caller He's on disability right now.

46:18 Drew What's why?

46:19 Adam What's he doing?

46:20 Drew Back injury.

46:21 Adam Right.

46:21 Caller No, shoulder. Possible surgery here within the next two weeks.

46:26 Caller All right.

46:28 Adam Well, how are the kids you got now? Are you taking care of them?

46:30 Caller Oh, yes. Oh, yes. No daycare. We work separate shifts to keep the kids out of daycare situations.

46:35 Caller Really?

46:36 Caller I think a little bit.

46:38 Adam I think being separated from you two wouldn't be such a bad plan if I was those kids. All right.

46:43 Caller All right, Cheryl.

46:44 Adam Well, why don't you take this one and, you know, sell it on the Internet or something, OK?

46:48 Caller Oh, no.

46:49 Caller All right.

46:50 Adam Good times.

46:50 Caller OK.

46:51 Adam We're going to take a little break. The cult is here. There was something up with Cheryl. I don't know exactly what, but more than that met the ear. The cult is here, like I said, Billy and Andrew is over there in New York. And we'll be right back.

47:05 Love Line will be right back. So get your problems ready. Ready.

47:46 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That's Dr. Drew over there in New York, out there to do the TV show 48 Hours, which will air when, Drew?

47:56 Drew Sometime after tomorrow.

47:57 Adam All right. It will not air between now and the time you do it. Is that what you're saying?

48:02 Drew Correct. End of the month sometime.

48:04 Adam All right. The cult is here. Billy and Ian both here. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD that is out. It is in record stores and it is definitely the cult. And we will hear something else off of that CD probably after we take a couple of calls. Let's talk to Jason who is 30. Jason?

48:24 Caller Hey guys.

48:25 Adam What's up?

48:26 The Cult Hey Jason.

48:27 Caller Hey I'm a major cult fan. I want to thank you for coming back making an album that will save rock and roll.

48:31 The Cult Thank you sir.

48:32 Caller Thank you for being there.

48:34 Caller And I had a question for both of you actually if there is time.

48:37 Caller Go ahead.

48:38 Caller Go. I want to ask Billy his guitar heroes. I can't really detect any obvious ones in his playing.

48:45 Caller Oh well there would be Mick Ronson that used to play with David Bowie in the 70s. And he also played with Bob Dylan for a while in the Rolling Thunder Revue. He's a big influence and Steve Jones from the Sex Pistols. And Ron Ashton and James Williamson, the guitar players from Iggy and the Stooges. I thought that was pretty seminal stuff. The first two or three Stooges albums, those guys were really good. So there you go.

49:22 Caller And Ian, do you see a correlation between your more, your lyrics that were influenced by Native American spirituality and your new lyrics now that are more with your Tibetan influence?

49:34 The Cult Yeah, it's just my interest evolved in Tibetan culture because of similarities between the Tibetan nomadic tribes. I ended up going to Tibet, but I've had a love affair of indigenous cultures since I was about 11 or 12 years old. You know, it's just an interest that's evolved.

49:52 Adam Hey, Jason?

49:53 Caller Yeah?

49:54 Adam They're going to be in Sacramento on the 17th. You going to see them?

49:57 Caller Yeah, can I have a pass?

49:58 Adam No.

49:58 Caller Oh, man.

49:59 Adam No, you got to pay.

50:00 Caller You got to sleep with a roadie to get a pass. Come on.

50:02 Adam That's right. No, to meet you.

50:05 Caller You can meet a roadie. M-E-A-T.

50:08 Adam That's right.

50:09 Caller You guys are awesome. Play Coming Down for me.

50:12 Adam All right. I don't know what we're going to play.

50:14 Caller That's a funny story. We won't be playing that in the gig, and I'll tell you why, because we tried to do it yesterday and we couldn't.

50:21 Adam Where did you try it yesterday?

50:22 Caller We were trying to do a rehearsal, just knock up a couple more songs, because we've been out on the road for a month already, and we're just trying to add a couple of songs just to keep it fresh for the fans and stuff. We were trying to do that, so I can't figure it out.

50:37 Adam When you're on the road, can you rehearse or is just every play, every gig a rehearsal in a sense? I mean, can you find any time to work something out?

50:46 The Cult Sound checks sometimes.

50:47 Caller Sound checks if you're in the mood. It's like...

50:50 The Cult I'll be in the mood.

50:51 Caller You know, the only thing about touring I've noticed that I seem to be more knackered all the time.

50:55 Right.

50:56 The Cult And I wonder why.

50:57 Caller Oh, easy.

50:58 Hey, Billy.

51:00 Adam Well, he's getting squirted in the face.

51:01 The Cult A lot of tinkling going on on the road.

51:02 Adam That's right.

51:03 Caller Be nice.

51:04 Billy?

51:04 Drew I think I'm tinkling. Billy.

51:06 Yeah.

51:06 Adam Caller Billy, what's up? You're 17.

51:09 Caller Yeah, I don't have a bedwetting problem. I went to the doctor and he said, there's nothing to do wrong with me. It seems like I will not feel an urge to wake up in the middle of the night.

51:20 Drew You what?

51:21 Caller I will not feel an urge to wake up.

51:23 Drew You just pee?

51:24 Caller I just pee.

51:25 Adam Okay. What are you doing with your phone, Billy?

51:28 Caller I'm on my own cell.

51:30 Adam Okay. So you wet the bed every night?

51:33 Caller Yeah. About every night. Occasionally.

51:36 The Cult Come on, dude.

51:36 Adam Occasionally. You don't wake up. You're sound sleeper and you whiz on yourself.

51:42 Caller Right.

51:43 Drew What kind of doctor did you see?

51:45 Caller A pediatrician.

51:47 Adam You ever have dreams you're on the toilet?

51:49 Caller Never.

51:50 Adam Really? Yeah. I've done that before. You guys ever do that? Oh, yeah. Dream you're standing over the toilet? That's nice. You feel like a genius until you realize what the hell's really going on.

52:01 Hey, Billy?

52:02 Adam Yeah. Hey, I used to wet my bed, too. I wasn't 17, but I did it longer than I should have.

52:09 Drew You're going to give them the egg timer advice, aren't you?

52:12 Adam Yeah, I'm going to tell them what worked out. I used to whiz my bed, and whenever I'd go sleep over at my grandparents' house, I was probably, I don't know, nine years old or something, my grandfather didn't want me whizzing up the sofa. So we would go to bed at, I don't know, nine-thirty, ten o'clock at night. He'd go watch the Tonight Show, and then he'd come in about one, one-thirty in the morning, he'd wake me up and he'd make me take a whiz into a bucket. I think he maybe gave me a hand job, I can't remember, and then I went back to bed. The point is, is I never wet his sofa because he woke me up three, four hours into my sleep, had me drain myself and go back to sleep. So you need to do that. And people talk about all of these sleep centers and therapists and doctors. Get a little egg timer, one of those little digital kitchen timers, you can set it for three hours, you can set it for two and a half hours, whatever it is. Next time you wet yourself, look at the clock and see what it is. It's probably about the middle between the time you went to bed.

53:14 The Cult You should pattern one, man.

53:15 Adam I'd love to, except for they're five bucks and they're all over the world.

53:19 The Cult Just draw your name on it.

53:21 Adam I could put like... Call it Whizbegon. Dr. Adam's Whizbegon. Whizbegon. And color it yellow. And all you got to do is hit three hours, put it next to your nightstand, you wake up, you go take a leak, then you go back to bed. You're not going to wet. I mean, how can you wet the bed when there's nothing in you?

53:37 How...

53:38 Adam Drew, why am I the only one who thinks of this stuff?

53:40 The Cult I had a very close relative who used to wet the bed until quite late in life, and that was because they had meningitis.

53:49 Oh, really?

53:49 The Cult Yeah, when they were younger.

53:50 Adam Yeah. Why didn't you bring that up, Drew?

53:53 Drew You didn't give me a chance to.

53:54 The Cult He was just about to.

53:54 Drew Oh, okay.

53:55 The Cult Sorry, Drew.

53:56 Drew There are all sorts of problems with spinal reflexes that can cause that kind of thing. But like you say, Adam, there's nothing in you. You have nothing to pee and one of the medical approaches to this is giving a hormone that shuts off the urine production so you don't produce urine overnight.

54:09 Adam Right.

54:09 Drew I'm surprised they didn't offer him that.

54:10 Adam Well, but again, to me, you're taking a pill and it's something that could be remedied, sort of, mechanically. Very easily, it seems to me.

54:19 Drew I agree.

54:19 Adam Let's do the math. All you got to do is wake up five minutes before you would have wet the bed.

54:23 Caller Two of the things, right? Tie a knot in it or don't drink liquids anytime before you go to sleep. That's kind of a basic 101.

54:34 Adam Part of my problem when I was nine is I'd put down a six pack of Mickey's Big Mouth before I turn in.

54:40 Caller Obviously party time at your house.

54:42 Adam You should have gum in your penis.

54:43 Yeah, gum in your penis.

54:45 Adam Oh, shut up, Drew. Alicia?

54:47 Caller Yeah.

54:48 Adam You're 15?

54:49 Caller Hey, what's up?

54:49 What's up?

54:51 Caller Well, I just have a question for both you and Dr. Drew. I'm thinking of getting a nose job because I just hate it so much. It's like it has a bump and it points kind of downward. I just want to know what your opinion on it is like for teenagers to get a nose job.

55:07 Adam So you're 15 years old?

55:08 Caller Yeah.

55:09 Adam Do people make fun of you?

55:11 Caller Well, no, but I have this terrible, like, self-image. I'm always self-conscious and I just hate it so much.

55:17 Adam Yeah, but don't you think once you fix the nose, you would just take that negative energy and shift it to another part of your body like your ass?

55:25 Caller Well, no, because I have negative energy for my whole body. So it doesn't really matter.

55:30 Adam That's my point. Why bother fixing the nose? You'll just go somewhere else.

55:34 Caller Well, I figure I can do it one thing at a time, you know?

55:37 Adam Yeah, but those kind of people, first off, end up looking like Picasso's by the time they get into the 30s. You see those women that just work on themselves for way too long, or those men who work on themselves. I mean, Drew, you've seen Michael Jackson's nose up close and personal, right?

55:55 Caller You need a microscope to see it up close. No, it's that small.

55:58 Drew Well, you can't quite make it up for all the scar.

56:00 The Cult Really? That's sad.

56:01 Adam Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's just like, that's a disease, right? That's like a body-imaging disease?

56:06 The Cult All he needed was a little cuddle.

56:08 Caller He got one of those.

56:11 Adam Hey, Alicia?

56:12 Caller Yeah?

56:13 Adam So, instead of just shifting from part to part fixing everything, why don't you just sort of try to get your head on emotionally and be okay with yourself?

56:22 Drew I'm not.

56:22 Caller I can't do that. It's just leasing hard.

56:25 Drew Alicia, at least at 15, most people have all kinds of concerns about who they are or how they look. At 19, it may not seem so overwhelming. You may make different choices about what you want to do about it. So, just hang in there, right?

56:36 Caller Yeah, but I just want to know, like, is it safe, though?

56:39 Caller I mean, even if I don't have to try that.

56:41 Drew You'd have to talk to a plastic surgeon. I'd be hard-pressed to think that anyone would do it.

56:44 Adam Really? I bet they'd do it. What about the very unscrupulous people, those plastic surgeons? Alicia?

56:51 Caller Yeah?

56:53 Adam Do you have a eating disorder?

56:55 Caller No, but, like, I talk to a psychiatrist, and she thinks I have a lot of potential for one.

56:59 Adam I see. You just haven't realized it yet. You're sort of an underachiever.

57:02 Caller No, I know. I know that I realize how bad I am with my self-image and stuff like that.

57:08 Adam Yeah. Well, at least you're going to a shrink.

57:11 Drew Yeah, that's good.

57:11 Adam What's up? Do your parents pull a number on you?

57:14 Caller No, I was, like, depressed when I was about 13. I tried to kill myself. I have a lot of problems. I'm, like, weaning myself off of medication. I messed up.

57:27 Drew Is somebody telling you to wean off, or are you doing that on your own?

57:29 Caller The psychiatrist told me to. She doesn't think I have major depression anymore, but she's, like, worried about my eating and all that.

57:39 Adam Okay.

57:40 Hey, how are we?

57:42 Adam Alicia.

57:42 Yeah.

57:44 Adam How about you, like, rent a Pippi Longstocking movie, and eat some popcorn and just, I don't know, be 15. I mean, do you have to weigh yourself down with all these, you know, clinical diagnoses and things like that? You get nose jobs and, you know, eating disorders and suicide attempts and pills. You're 15. Do you have friends?

58:06 Caller Do you have anything you like to do?

58:08 Caller Yeah, I mean, I still think, like, that I have, like, a little bit of depression in me because, like, I don't like, you know, to, like, go out that much. I always think people are, like, looking at me and judging me.

58:18 Caller Yeah. Yeah, you got to work on that.

58:20 Caller Yeah, I know.

58:21 Adam Don't you have any friends?

58:22 Caller Yeah, I have friends.

58:23 Adam Why don't you hang out with them a little bit and have a laugh?

58:27 Caller I like that.

58:27 Caller Yeah, I could do that.

58:29 Drew So painful.

58:30 Caller Yeah, I mean, what?

58:31 Adam Listen, you can have a good time.

58:34 Caller Yeah.

58:35 Adam Why don't you try that? I know it sounds so trite, but we always come back to this, and especially women, I think sometimes they don't have enough friends. They look at women as competition.

58:47 The Cult Don't you think there's a lot of pressure on girls, though, to look a certain way now? It's getting worse, isn't it?

58:50 Adam Yeah, there is, but if you could find-

58:51 The Cult Objectification and billboards and the advertising and-

58:54 Caller Absolutely.

58:55 The Cult Britney Spears, et cetera, et cetera.

58:58 Adam That's why you got to find like three or four big, fat, homely chicks to hang out with.

59:02 The Cult Yeah.

59:02 Adam You guys feel good about each other, right?

59:05 Caller Drew?

59:10 Adam Well, I mean, find somebody less attractive than you are and befriend them and hang out with them. It'll make you feel better.

59:16 Drew What you were talking about how women don't have as many friends, they have more, they have friends and they actually use them more effectively, but they can't sort of act out the way guys do. Guys go destroy things and they do sports and they physically release a lot of this and they have a comradeship and it really helps them get through these things. Women sit and stew about it and they reinforce sometimes each other's neuroses.

59:41 Adam Brandice?

59:41 Caller What?

59:42 Adam You're 27. What's up?

59:44 Caller Almost. Not much. How you doing?

59:46 Adam Good. What's your question?

59:48 Caller Well, I have a couple of questions for Ian and Billy.

59:50 Adam Here they are.

59:51 Caller Well, first of all Ian, you're probably one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.

59:56 The Cult Oh, thank you.

59:57 Caller I wondered about, from Sonic Temple, Edie Chowbaby.

1:00:00 The Cult Yeah.

1:00:02 Caller What is that about?

1:00:03 The Cult What's it about? It's about one of Warhol's actresses. You know Andy Warhol? Yes. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, he had a, in New York in the 60s, had a place called The Factory and made a lot of films there. And one of the actresses he had was, her name was Edie Sedgwick. Do you know Edie Sedgwick? Have you heard of her?

1:00:18 Caller I think I do. I'm not sure. I am a little young, but...

1:00:22 The Cult Well, the film is, there's a movie called Chow Manhattan.

1:00:24 Caller Okay. She's a dark-haired lady.

1:00:26 The Cult She's a brunette girl, yeah.

1:00:27 Caller Right. Okay.

1:00:28 The Cult I actually identified with a character and wrote a song about her.

1:00:31 Caller Oh.

1:00:31 The Cult But Chow, Chow Baby really refers to the movie Chow Manhattan. If you get a chance, maybe you can see the...

1:00:36 Caller Right. I will definitely check it out now. And are you guys going to be in Boise on your tour?

1:00:41 The Cult I don't know.

1:00:42 Adam That's Idaho. I don't remember reading that one.

1:00:45 The Cult I don't know. We are going around again probably in the fall. Oh. Yeah.

1:00:49 Caller We're definitely going out again. And so we might, well, go to some towns that we don't hit the first time.

1:00:56 Caller Well, honestly, I was surprised to hear a release by you. One of my favorite radio stations here plays Rise all the time. And I was just like, you know, so...

1:01:06 Caller Well, if they continue to play it, it's more likely that we'll end up coming to Boise, where I don't think we've ever been before.

1:01:13 Adam No reason to go to Boise.

1:01:15 Caller No.

1:01:15 Drew It's beautiful up there.

1:01:16 Caller Everybody that comes to play a concert here that thinks they're not going to like it always ends up loving it. Nirvana loved it here.

1:01:23 Adam Let me tell you why people who go to Boise love Boise. Because they go in with such a low expectation level that they're pleasantly surprised when they get there.

1:01:37 Caller The road's a page.

1:01:38 Adam It's all relative.

1:01:41 Caller It can go 50-50 when you go on the road. It's like some towns that you think are going to be a lot of fun ain't.

1:01:47 Adam Disappoint.

1:01:48 Caller And some towns completely surprise you.

1:01:51 Adam Drew, what is the closest to Boise that's on this list that you can't see?

1:01:59 Drew Probably Seattle.

1:02:00 Adam Seattle. That's what I thought.

1:02:02 Caller That's not on the list either.

1:02:03 Adam Maybe Portland.

1:02:04 The Cult Portland.

1:02:05 Drew Portland, yeah.

1:02:06 Adam Yeah, because Boise is up there. It's next...

1:02:09 Drew Between Montana and Washington.

1:02:11 The Cult Oregon and Washington. Yeah.

1:02:14 Adam All right. Well, listen, if she's a big Colt fan, she can drive. All right. Let's talk. Why don't we put... You want to hear a song, Drew?

1:02:22 Drew Sure. Yeah.

1:02:23 Adam Yeah.

1:02:24 Drew Good time.

1:02:24 Caller All right.

1:02:25 Adam You got a song queued up there?

1:02:26 Drew Let's put Paul back on hold there, Adam.

1:02:28 Caller All right.

1:02:29 Adam All right. I'll put Paul on hold and we will hear another new one from the Colt called American Gothic.

1:06:28 Caller There you go. Another good song from The Cult off of Beyond Good and Evil.

1:06:33 Adam That's the name of the new CD. It is out, and they are out. They will be on the road and in a town near you unless you live in Boise. But they may hit that on the next go-round. Drew, you got another call you want to say hi to?

1:06:49 Sure.

1:06:49 Caller Paul?

1:06:51 Adam Yeah. Year 24, what's up?

1:06:54 Yes, I have. Well, first of all, I have a comment for the cult. I think you guys are the gods, the rock and roll. Everybody says ACDC, the gods, or what? The godfathers are rock and roll.

1:07:04 Caller I have to disagree.

1:07:06 You're phenomenal.

1:07:07 Caller Thank you.

1:07:09 Actually, I saw you in concert at the Sundance Film Festival a year and a half ago at the Park City, Utah.

1:07:16 Caller A lot of fun that was, wasn't it?

1:07:18 Yeah. Actually, you know what? I was a security guy right on the front row and I stopped the guy from crowd surfing who was about to come up and maul you and you, you know, you weren't too happy about it but, you know, I forgive you.

1:07:29 Adam All right. So what's your question, Paul?

1:07:31 Caller All right.

1:07:32 I have developed an addiction to Nalbifen.

1:07:37 Adam What is that?

1:07:39 Caller Is that state-all?

1:07:41 No, it's an injectable painkiller.

1:07:43 Drew Newbane?

1:07:44 Caller Yeah, Newbane.

1:07:45 Drew Newbane, yeah.

1:07:47 Yeah, and I've tried a couple of times to get off of it but I've noticed that, especially at night, I'll just get, like, my joints will get really achy and just...

1:07:54 Drew Well, it's heroin, Newbane, morphine. It's all the same thing. Okay, so this is a profound, profound opiate addiction and it's going to require treatment. You need to go somewhere to get this treated. You will not, even if you successfully detox yourself outside a hospital, there's no way you'll stay off that drug or you'll escalate something else because that drug, in people who are genetically prone, that drug throws a switch in the brain that requires a lot of treatment to undo, really.

1:08:22 Adam Where do you get that drug?

1:08:24 Oh, I've got some sketchy friends here and there.

1:08:26 Adam And you inject it?

1:08:28 Yeah, we have this little insulin syringe that you can shoot in your shoulder, painless.

1:08:32 Adam How often do you do it?

1:08:36 It used to be about a couple of times a day.

1:08:39 Caller Right.

1:08:40 But I've tapered it down. I've been able to cure it, at least I can do it once a day and I'll be all right with it.

1:08:46 Caller All right.

1:08:47 Adam What's the feeling?

1:08:48 Drew Paul, you're focused on tapering off the drug. That's not the problem. It'll be no problem detoxing you. The problem will be, this is profound, profound addiction and it's about staying off the drugs. That's the problem. Yeah.

1:08:59 Adam How about detoxing from something like this as opposed to heroin?

1:09:03 Drew Same.

1:09:04 Adam Same thing?

1:09:04 Drew Yeah, same. Heroin's a little more intense, lasts a little longer, but it's the same deal.

1:09:09 Adam And what about, what would they give?

1:09:13 Drew Methadone?

1:09:14 Adam Methadone is someone like Paul?

1:09:16 Drew Yeah, but again, that's out of the frying pan and into the fire. Yeah. Methadone is far, far, methadone is far more difficult to get off than New Bank. Far more difficult.

1:09:26 Really?

1:09:26 The Cult You want to get off it, right, Paul?

1:09:29 Sorry?

1:09:29 The Cult You want to get off it, right?

1:09:30 Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, definitely. I'm trying to clean my system out. I mean, it's just, you know, it's not going to take me anywhere. It's not the road I want to go down in life.

1:09:38 Drew Paul, you're not hearing me. This is a disorder that doesn't get better even in the best of circumstances unless you go participate in treatment. Detox and getting off the drug is the easiest, easiest part of this whole process.

1:09:52 Adam I know, but it must scare these guys when you talk that way, Drew, because that's the hardest part.

1:09:58 The Cult Yeah, but sure. It's like, where do you go to detox?

1:10:00 Adam Treatment?

1:10:01 The Cult You know, I mean, the guy's just finding out he's got an addiction. Where does he go? Where does he go?

1:10:07 Drew He's got to go to a treatment program. Just call up a local hospital and get a referral and go.

1:10:10 The Cult Local hospital, right.

1:10:12 Drew Any hospital will have a treatment program for this kind of thing. Most hospitals, at least, they'll know where to go. Or you can call Narcotics Anonymous and get in with people that have been through this and see what they've done and what programs they recommend.

1:10:22 Adam We will take ourselves a little break. Billy and Ian are both here from the cult. We'll be back after this.

1:10:30 Drew Hello?

1:10:32 Caller This is Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191, Loveline will be right back.

1:10:57 Caller Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. Dr. Drew is over there in New York tonight. It's gonna be doing 48 hours tomorrow.

1:11:04 Adam Billy and Ian are both here from the Colt, but Billy's shaking the dew off the lily or finishing his taco salad or doing something. So he'll let us stroll into the studio in just a matter of moments.

1:11:16 Drew Gone to the loo.

1:11:17 Adam Till then, yes, he skipped to the loo.

1:11:20 The Cult He's gone for a slash.

1:11:21 Adam Is a slash, is that peeing?

1:11:23 The Cult Yes, that's the peeing term in England, the slash.

1:11:25 Adam I like that. You say you could take a slash?

1:11:28 The Cult You can take a slash.

1:11:29 Adam Go for a slash?

1:11:30 The Cult So when we first met, slash.

1:11:31 Adam Right. Can you slash on somebody?

1:11:34 The Cult Yes, it's been known. If you go to the soccer in England, when I was a kid going to soccer in the UK, you used to stand there at the football, as we call it in England. You used to feel the warm stream going down the back of your leg, and someone else standing there with a can of beer, just taking a pee down the back of your leg, taking a slash at the soccer. That was always a big one. Especially in Scotland.

1:11:56 Adam Now, in the soccer stadiums or the football stadiums in England, do you guys just take a slash in one big long trough like we do here?

1:12:05 Caller Yes.

1:12:06 Adam Yeah, that's good.

1:12:07 The Cult Some guys actually may take a jobby in the stands as well. I'm telling you, man, it was barbaric, especially in Scotland. Rangers and Celtic games, just barbaric.

1:12:17 Adam Really? Just crazy? Everyone drunk?

1:12:20 The Cult Everyone drunk.

1:12:21 Drew Isn't jobby a Scottish term?

1:12:23 The Cult Oh, yes, sir.

1:12:24 Adam What is that? Is that crab? Taking a crab?

1:12:26 The Cult It's number two.

1:12:27 Caller Oh, I like that.

1:12:29 Adam And do they now, see here, they cut you off the beer at a certain point.

1:12:34 The Cult Not there.

1:12:34 Adam They don't do it there.

1:12:35 The Cult Well, they worked it out after a period of time.

1:12:37 Adam Right. Yeah, I don't hear as much about the soccer hooligans as I used to hear.

1:12:42 The Cult They're at it.

1:12:43 Adam Oh, they're still there?

1:12:45 Caller Adam. I'll tell you one thing that happened, though, in England. They changed the stadiums to all-seated because when we were first going, you could stand up and there was a lot of crushing and there was a lot of people got crushed to death when weird crowd things happened and anyway, it's mellowed out a lot.

1:13:02 Adam Now, they give you a seat.

1:13:03 Drew It must be harder to take that jobby without a seat.

1:13:05 The Cult You have to go to the proper facility for the jobby, Dr. Drew.

1:13:09 Adam Jim, you're 25. What's up?

1:13:12 Caller First of all, I'd like to say you guys rock.

1:13:15 Caller Thank you, Jim.

1:13:16 Caller I played in the Ventura Theatre about a year ago and Ian, you're like riding on the crowd and I was like pushing you around, so that's cool.

1:13:24 Adam I think they're going to be in-

1:13:26 The Cult It was a fantasy.

1:13:27 Adam Santa Barbara coming up in a couple of days.

1:13:30 Caller Yeah, I got to check that out.

1:13:31 Adam Yeah, you should go see them. What's up?

1:13:33 Caller Well, basically, I've always been kind of an ass guy, right?

1:13:37 Adam Right.

1:13:37 Caller An ass guy.

1:13:39 The Cult Ladies' asses, right?

1:13:40 Caller Jim, there's nothing wrong with that, mate. Join the club.

1:13:42 Caller And anyway, so I've always kind of been, you know, like, it turns me on to kind of, you know, when a girl takes it in the butt, you know?

1:13:50 Caller Right.

1:13:51 Caller And I've just, you know, been trying to get my girlfriend to, but she doesn't like it. And anyway, I was just wondering, what's your guys' opinion, where that comes from?

1:14:00 Caller Take a shopping first. That always worked for me.

1:14:04 Caller Oh yeah?

1:14:04 Adam Yeah, we mean, why are some guys into that and some guys aren't?

1:14:08 Caller Yeah, and there's also a lot of pornos, they're totally into that, you know, and some aren't, but there's like a lot of them these days, it seems like. It just seems like, where does that come from?

1:14:16 Caller The goalposts have moved in the porno world.

1:14:19 Adam Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot more jobby packing going on.

1:14:23 Caller Don't you think it's interesting that when the more the AIDS thing came about, it seemed that in parallel in the world of pornography, they actually got more into anal sex, where pretty much now, nearly every porno video, is pretty much, that's involved in them all now.

1:14:39 Adam Well, I think one of the keys to porno is evolution. You must keep evolving. Otherwise, it's not pornography. I mean, if you think about it, yesterday's pornography is not today's pornography. The pornography your dad saw-

1:14:54 The Cult There's only a certain amount of holes that you can actually fill, then.

1:14:57 Caller Right, but you keep moving.

1:14:59 Adam You go to the anal, you go to the gang bang, you go to that new thing where everyone gets off on the chick, you know, covers her with the tidal wave of semen. You have to keep raising the bar because I've never really thought about this, but the stuff, like I said, that our dads considered pornography 30 or 40 years ago is not pornography today. And maybe the pornography that we look at is pornography today, 30 or 40 years from now will be on NYPD Blue and not considered pornography.

1:15:31 Caller It's like society's standards are changing. I mean, they've got a lot of stuff. You know, they've got gay gang rapes in British TV now and stuff. Really? Yeah. There's a lot of milestone stuff going on in the last couple of years.

1:15:45 Adam I just think you got to keep raising the bar, and that's a part of raising the bar is doing things that are a little more deviant, a little more edgy.

1:15:53 The Cult It seems like people just don't want to deal with their own pain. Yeah. Well, there's that. More escapism.

1:15:59 Drew I totally agree with you.

1:16:00 Adam All right. So what is it with a guy who wants to do that? I don't know.

1:16:04 Drew I think there's a little bit of aggression towards women too, that particular thing.

1:16:08 Adam Plus, there's also the thing that a lot of guys have, which is they really like the idea of talking a woman into doing something she doesn't want to do sexually. There's a lot of guys that become sort of obsessed with that. It's sort of a carryover from junior high or high school. You're trying to get this. They don't want to give you that. You spend your whole life as a guy trying to get women to do stuff.

1:16:30 The Cult Junior high, you're trying to get anything.

1:16:32 Caller Well, that's the point. Whatever it is, they don't want to give it up and you want it.

1:16:39 Adam Whether it's feeling a breast or getting a kiss or whatever it is. And some guys just carry that into their adult life. Josette?

1:16:47 Caller Yes, hello.

1:16:48 Adam Hey, you're 27. What's up?

1:16:50 Caller I just wanted to say hello to Ian and Billy. I think they are absolutely wonderful and I'm so glad you've put out a new album.

1:16:57 Caller Thank you, Josette.

1:17:00 Caller Also, I wanted to know where you do your inspiration for the album Love because that is my favorite.

1:17:07 The Cult Hmm, a lot of different things for that. I think probably, you know, 70s, late 60s and early 70s rock music.

1:17:15 Caller Right.

1:17:15 The Cult Because we kind of came out of punk rock and one of the big things about punk rock was you weren't supposed to listen to that music. That was the great Satan, you know, and that's the kind of music we started listening to. Well, I was picking up on the early 80s. I mean, you listen to love albums, a lot of different things. Influences, Led Zeppelin, Iggy Pop and The Stooges is a big influence on that record. The Doors.

1:17:37 Caller Wonderful. Yeah, it just has a very, just I love the range and the spectrum of it. Like I said, it's my favorite. I just bought your new one today, so I haven't quite gotten a chance to really form an attachment to it, but I'm sure I will. I'm so glad you've released another album.

1:17:52 Adam Are you going to see them in concert, Josette?

1:17:55 Caller Unfortunately, no. I'm not going to be able to catch them in Santa Barbara when tickets went on sale. I didn't have any money, but hopefully I hear you're going to be doing a second leg and I'm moving up to Washington, so hopefully you'll hit me out.

1:18:07 Drew I was going to say, Josette does not sound like she belongs in Bakersfield. Does she, Adam?

1:18:10 Caller No.

1:18:11 Adam I'm surprised I haven't thrown you out. That Bakersfield's a dump.

1:18:15 Caller You've got to get out of there.

1:18:16 Caller Well, that's why I'm getting out of here.

1:18:18 Adam All right. But what's going on with your life that at age 27, you can't scrape together 60 bucks to catch a cult?

1:18:25 Caller Well, I have another question for Dr. Drew about this. It's kind of part of the reason. The past couple of years, I've been going to do a pretty heavy depression, and I have an appointment with a new therapist tomorrow.

1:18:39 Drew What happened to your old therapist?

1:18:40 Caller I'm very, very hypersensitive to medication, and I was wondering if you could suggest what the lowest or lightest antidepressant would be that I could mention to work.

1:18:51 Drew Have you tried other ones before?

1:18:54 Caller I tried Selexa for a while, and that just... I reacted very badly to it.

1:19:00 Drew What happened?

1:19:01 Caller I had a very severe headache. I was having very bad nightmares.

1:19:07 Drew Have you tried Serizone?

1:19:08 Caller No, I didn't.

1:19:10 Drew Selexa is one of the mildest in that class of serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and Serizone is a slightly different class, and you can get it in very low dose and take it a couple of times a day. So that's probably the best next step for you, I would think.

1:19:22 Caller Serizone?

1:19:23 Drew Yeah.

1:19:23 Adam All right, Josette. Get out of that Bakersfield, and magically your depression will go away. I guarantee it. Let's talk to Michelle up here. She's 26. Michelle?

1:19:36 Caller Hi.

1:19:37 Caller What's up?

1:19:38 Caller First, I want to say something to Ian and Billy. I just wanted you to know my husband and I have been listening to you guys since we were 14 or 15 years old, and we've been through Southern Death, Cult Love, and everything else in between to the new album, and our wedding bands have Brother Wolf, Sister Moon on it.

1:19:53 Caller Oh, wow.

1:19:54 Caller And we are just in love with you guys.

1:19:56 Caller Cool.

1:19:56 Drew And you've been with your husband since you were 14?

1:19:58 Caller Well, we've been best friends and then kind of dating on and off, and now we've been married, going actually next week, the day after the concert in San Diego, is our three year anniversary.

1:20:10 Caller Wow.

1:20:11 Caller And we're going to see you guys there, Ian and Billy.

1:20:14 Caller Wow.

1:20:15 Caller So, and we saw you guys in San Diego last year, but one of my main questions is, my husband and I are actually going through a separation right now, and it's very hard. He likes to drink and party a lot, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's come into the point where it's affected our marriage, and our friendship, and basically our lives.

1:20:43 Drew How could there be nothing wrong with it if it's destroying your marriage?

1:20:46 Caller Well, I mean, we've grown up with that, and that's nothing wrong with it, but now you're right. I mean, it is affecting us, and there is something wrong with it.

1:20:53 Adam Do you have kids?

1:20:55 Caller No.

1:20:55 Adam Oh, good.

1:20:56 Caller Fortunately.

1:20:57 Adam That's nice. And so you guys are separated now?

1:21:01 Caller Yes.

1:21:01 Adam And is he getting into a program or something?

1:21:04 Caller Well, actually he's probably at a friend's house right now, and he actually might be listening on the radio, but he, I mean, he's been trying to modify it, and, you know, I don't know if the alcoholism is the only problem, but I know he's very depressed, and I think that comes hand in hand. Am I right?

1:21:25 Caller Well, yeah, absolutely.

1:21:26 Adam What's your plan?

1:21:28 Caller We've both been going to therapy separately, and we tried him living at his parents' or staying at his friend's house, and it's getting to the point where I thought it would help having time away and maybe giving himself a chance to work at things, but it's actually making me really bitter, and I'm like about... I don't want to throw the towel in because I love him so dearly and so very much.

1:21:52 Drew All right, do you want a suggestion?

1:21:53 Caller Yeah.

1:21:54 Drew Because what you've been trying to do is to restore the homeostasis you had before his alcoholism really took off. What you want is not homeostasis.

1:22:02 Adam What the hell is homeostasis?

1:22:03 Drew The stability. What you want is your relationship with the home stability. Restored to the point where he's like an alcoholic but not an out-of-control alcoholic. But you can't get that. Your dad was probably an alcoholic, huh?

1:22:15 Caller Actually, my dad was a compulsive gambler. His family is a bunch of... I mean, he's third generation alcoholic.

1:22:23 Drew Alcoholic.

1:22:24 Adam Okay. So maybe it's time for him to quit. Maybe you should do some Al-Anon.

1:22:29 Drew Right. Michelle, the only way that's going to get better is if you go to Al-Anon, you get a sponsor, you start doing some work. That will get his attention. The therapy will not be enough. And if that doesn't do it, then there's really not much else to hope because his disease has taken off. It's a different context. He has to now be totally absent because there's no way to go back to how it was.

1:22:47 The Cult His drinking is his problem.

1:22:49 Adam You guys are still going to the Colt concert on the 19th, though?

1:22:52 Caller Yeah.

1:22:53 The Cult It takes a lot of courage for you to do what you're doing right now.

1:22:57 Caller Why don't...

1:22:58 Adam What's his name?

1:22:59 Caller His name is Kyle and he, like I said, he might be listening because I was driving home and I heard you guys on the radio and I called him, I called his friend's cell phone. I'm like, would you tell Kyle the Colt's hunt? And we are like, he just saw you guys in LA and got you to sign our CD.

1:23:16 Adam Tell Kyle that the Colt said that by the time they show up in San Diego on the 19th, that he should have himself seven days of sobriety.

1:23:26 Drew And a sponsor.

1:23:27 Adam And a sponsor. And then they'll dedicate a song to him, not out loud, but internally, they will think about Kyle before they play a song. And you guys will live happily ever after. But he's got to get in the program.

1:23:43 Drew And so does Michelle, though.

1:23:45 Caller Yeah, well, I actually just... Actually...

1:23:47 Adam All right, that's enough. You get in the program, he gets in the program, you guys go enjoy the Colt. We're going to take ourselves a little break and we'll be back with the Colt after this.

1:23:58 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:24:36 Caller Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam.

1:24:38 Adam That's Drew over there in New York. Drew will be back here tomorrow night in person. Right, Drew?

1:24:44 Drew Yeah. In fact, Matt here was reminding me about the last time you were here, you came in loaded right out, rolled out of the strip bar.

1:24:50 Adam Who? Who told you that? Oh, what, New York?

1:24:54 Drew Yeah.

1:24:55 Adam Yeah, that's right. Actually, to be fair to me, I was drunk and stoned. It was not just drunk.

1:25:01 Drew Well, you made quite an impression here to the staff. I want you to feel proud.

1:25:05 Adam Well, you know, I'll tell you the problem. The last time I was in New York, I did this, or it wasn't the last time, but ten times ago when I did the radio show out of New York, we did this thing where this guy who wrote for a magazine wanted to take me and my partner Jimmy out for a night on the town with the guys from The Man Show. And we were going to drink and smoke weed and eat steaks. And I said, fine. And I got all into it. And then it was like 1 o'clock and I had to do the radio show. Well, you guys know, right? I wasn't in great shape. But Drew, you're the doctor. It's your job to carry this show when I'm not in good shape.

1:25:41 Drew Of course, yes.

1:25:42 Adam All right. And you know, the best part about that night is, as screwed up as I was at the end of the night when the show ended at 3 a.m. in New York and the guy dropped me off back at the hotel, he dropped me off at the wrong hotel. It was actually the same name as the hotel I was staying at. It was just the other one. I was standing out drunken stoned at 3:30 a.m. in the middle of the street in New York disoriented because I got a 7 o'clock flight out of LA that morning and really didn't even know where I was. I didn't have any money on me and really, I really should have just cried.

1:26:18 Caller You know what, if you could bottle that feeling. If there was a pill.

1:26:23 Adam Is that what being on the road is like?

1:26:25 Caller Yes.

1:26:26 Adam Yeah, that's it.

1:26:27 Caller Generally, yes.

1:26:28 Adam You know, we didn't get into this last night, but I was talking, who the hell was in here? Maybe it was the night before. We were, I was just talking to a guest and it was about being tired. And the one thing about show business or rock business or whatever that business is, is one thing they don't tell you about is you don't get to sleep a lot of the time.

1:26:51 The Cult No, not when traveling. It's really hard to sort of like, when you're especially traveling like us, do long bus drives and it's hard to sleep on a bus.

1:26:59 Adam But also, no matter how luxurious it is, you do this show till 12 o'clock on a Tuesday night and then Wednesday morning you're supposed to do some radio junket that starts at 5.30 or something like that and they never tell you about that.

1:27:12 Drew You were talking to Rob Schneider about his movie junket.

1:27:15 Adam Right, right and he said he was in here till 12 and he had to get up at what, six the next morning?

1:27:20 Drew Had to be somewhere at six.

1:27:22 Adam Yeah, they don't, they don't tell you about that. All right, Mike?

1:27:26 Caller Yeah?

1:27:27 Adam You're 16?

1:27:28 Caller Yeah.

1:27:29 Adam What's up?

1:27:31 Caller My girlfriend once wanted to have a kid about, starting a week ago and three days ago we were having sex and when we were done she took the condom and she put it in her.

1:27:45 Adam In her mouth or in her vagina?

1:27:46 Caller In her vagina.

1:27:47 Adam All right, fully loaded?

1:27:50 Caller No.

1:27:52 Adam Well, was there something in the condom?

1:27:57 Caller I've been trying to break off the relationship.

1:27:59 Adam Hey, Mike, do you understand our question? Was there some of your seed inside of the condom?

1:28:06 Caller Yeah.

1:28:08 Caller I've been trying to break it off and I think she's using the kid to just keep us together or something.

1:28:14 Adam Well, is she pregnant?

1:28:16 Caller I don't know. It was just like three days ago.

1:28:18 Drew Was it exactly 72 hours ago?

1:28:22 Caller No. It was like last Saturday.

1:28:26 Adam Hey, Mike, let me just jump in here. Do you smoke a lot of weed?

1:28:30 Caller A little bit. A lot, Mike.

1:28:31 Adam A little bit or kilo every day? What's up with you? You're not processing very well.

1:28:39 Caller It's late. I'm cold.

1:28:40 Adam Okay. Well, we're just going to hang up on you then, all right?

1:28:43 Caller Well, what do I do about my girlfriend then?

1:28:45 Drew Well, break up with her. You tell her you're going to break up with her as a kid or not and you take her and you go get the morning after pill. You've got like 12 hours left to do this. Do it.

1:28:54 Adam And listen, I have no problem whatsoever in hanging up on someone who can't get it together to do a national radio show. You're 16. You should be thrilled to be on the air with us. Ramon?

1:29:07 Caller Yeah.

1:29:07 Adam What's up?

1:29:08 Caller What's up, guys?

1:29:09 Adam You're 29.

1:29:10 Caller Yeah.

1:29:11 Adam There you go.

1:29:12 The Cult See, Ramon's awake.

1:29:13 Adam That's right. Very lucid, this Ramon. That's what I like about him.

1:29:16 Caller Yeah, let's do it.

1:29:17 Adam What's up?

1:29:18 The Cult Come on.

1:29:18 Caller Let's get to it.

1:29:19 Caller Come on, man. I heard the cult play in Sundance in Park City, and they played a song, I think it was called Libertine.

1:29:27 The Cult Yeah.

1:29:28 Caller Is that going to be on a B-side or something? It was awesome.

1:29:30 The Cult Only if you live in Japan it will. Oh, really? It's the extra track in Japan and Australia.

1:29:36 Caller Really?

1:29:36 The Cult Yeah.

1:29:37 Caller Why? Why?

1:29:39 The Cult I don't know. Asco Records Company, they have these like strange political marketing things. I guess they feel like in fear, I don't know, the markets are different out there. They require more tracks or something.

1:29:51 Caller Oh, really?

1:29:52 Caller You put an extra track to stop them buying cheaper imports or something. There you go. Domestically, in Australia and the Far East, they want people to buy not-imported CDs. So, and Libertine, I'll tell you what happened with Libertine. It was one of the first songs we wrote for this album, and it kind of got put on the back burner because we got all excited about the new songs, and we made a decision not to put it on the album, and it was kind of left over, which now, and then we finally heard it mixed, and we kind of thinking, oh, you know what? It sounds pretty good.

1:30:25 Adam Well, can somebody get hold of it from an import place or something like that?

1:30:29 The Cult An import in the States, pay twice as much for the single track. We got to work that one out, I think.

1:30:35 Adam Ramon, you'll do it, right?

1:30:36 Caller I'll get it, man.

1:30:37 The Cult You know what, Ramon? Download it.

1:30:38 Caller I'll buy it twice.

1:30:39 Caller Dude, no, man, just download it.

1:30:40 The Cult Download it somewhere.

1:30:42 Caller I'll buy it.

1:30:42 Adam Yeah, let him buy it.

1:30:43 Caller Download some Metallica with it as well. Blas is going to want it.

1:30:47 Adam All right, hey, you're going to see them. Where's Fair Oaks, California?

1:30:51 Caller In Sacramento area.

1:30:52 Adam All right, you're going to see them when they're in Sacramento? You got it already? Good times.

1:30:58 Caller All right, is Libertine live ever?

1:31:01 Caller Yeah, you're going to do it live?

1:31:03 The Cult We did, and we're not doing it right now.

1:31:05 Caller Maybe by the time I see you in San Francisco then.

1:31:07 The Cult I'll knock it up for you.

1:31:08 Adam The band will start working on it tonight.

1:31:11 Caller Thing is, we've been around a while. We got a lot of songs.

1:31:13 Caller Yeah, what's that?

1:31:16 Drew These guys have your favorite accent too. It's Berna and Australia.

1:31:20 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:31:22 Adam Yeah, I always can't figure out with the English accent why they put the A where the R should be and then lose the A and put the R. Like sometimes English guys will say like instead of going to the spa, it will be spa. But they put it...

1:31:37 The Cult No, this is actually in England. There's a store, grocery store called spa.

1:31:41 Caller Which is like 7-Eleven.

1:31:42 The Cult S-P-A-R.

1:31:43 Adam Oh, really?

1:31:44 The Cult Yeah, so that's... You got that one wrong.

1:31:46 Adam Well, wait a minute. That's what I mean.

1:31:48 Caller We're going to buy some groceries.

1:31:50 Adam I had an English girlfriend and we lived in...

1:31:53 Caller Yeah, my deepest sympathy.

1:31:55 Adam Yeah, she was a piece of work. We lived in Santa Monica and she would say wata and then she would say Santa Monica. She put the R on there. And I would say to her, you love to use that A so much, why don't you just use it? Here's your chance. Santa Monica ends with an A, you can use it. Still put the R on there.

1:32:16 Caller Too much sunlight, I think, has gone to her head.

1:32:18 Caller Yeah, it's ruined her.

1:32:19 Adam And she's back in England now, by the way.

1:32:21 Caller Getting rained on.

1:32:22 Adam We will take ourselves a little break. The cult is here and we'll be back after this.

1:33:03 Caller All right, everybody, that is the end of the show.

1:33:06 Adam Tricky will be in here tomorrow night. I want to thank Billy and Ian for coming in here from the Colt.

1:33:12 Caller Thank you.

1:33:12 Caller Thanks for having us.

1:33:13 Adam Hey, we do appreciate you coming in, and I will see you on the 22nd, Ann, is that the Weenie Rose? Oh, 23rd. That's right.

1:33:23 Caller You'll be there?

1:33:23 Adam Oh, yes. Rock and roll. I have to be there, but I would not miss it anyway. Beyond Good and Evil is the name of the CD. If you don't have it, it's great. Go get it and look for the cult coming to a town near you. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:33:38 The Cult You have to go to the proper facility for the jobby, Dr. Drew.

1:33:42 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on the show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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