1:08
Voiceover
Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:13
Adam
It is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, fax number 310-8-5-4-4-4-5-5. Dr. Drew's a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. And tonight, I'm delighted to have back in the studio Everclear. Art, Craig, and Greg are all here from the band. Drew, I'm not as excited about seeing. And he's sick, and so is half the band. So it's going to be a tough night. I can say I'm going to have to toe the line one more time.
1:44
Caller
You know what always amuses me is you always go, Drew is a board certified physician, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Never say what you are. What are you?
1:54
Adam
I am a buck-toothed, Brillo head, a-hole from North Hollywood.
1:59
Caller
I think you're a sick bastard.
2:01
Drew
He used to call himself a philosopher-warrior.
2:04
Adam
Yeah.
2:07
Caller
You were one of those freaks out in Tahonga beating on drums and stuff with a bunch of men, right?
2:13
Adam
You know what, I swear to Christ I hope my mom is not listening. I found out recently that my mom met my stepfather in primal scream therapy. That equals another six years of therapy for me, you understand?
2:29
Drew
Oh yes.
2:30
Adam
At least six.
2:30
Drew
On many levels.
2:33
Caller
You know the worst thing about that whole primal scream thing? That's where the song from Tears For Fears Shout came from.
2:40
Adam
Really?
2:41
Caller
They spent a summer in primal scream therapy.
2:43
Drew
An entire summer.
2:45
Adam
How can you do that?
2:46
Drew
It did them a lot of good.
2:49
Caller
They got the big hair out of it.
2:51
Adam
I don't even know if that's around anymore, is it?
2:53
Drew
No.
2:54
Adam
No. You just... I remember, I remember, and we'll go all over the place tonight, the thought was if you have anger, you gotta get it out.
3:03
Drew
Yeah, there's a whole theory about evocative therapy, is that if you could just evoke the feeling, it would vanish into thin air.
3:09
Adam
Yeah, they had these things called like bataka bats. Remember those are like handed sticks that you'd beat the cramp over.
3:17
Caller
We were giving those when I was in like fourth or fifth grade.
3:20
Adam
Bataka bats?
3:20
Caller
Yeah, man.
3:21
Drew
Here's the logic to that. You give Mike Tyson, put him in the ring, let him really start going at it and then go, okay, you feel better now?
3:26
Adam
Yeah.
3:27
Caller
Stop, stop.
3:28
Drew
Is he good? Right?
3:29
Adam
No, because he, yeah, right. He rapes a chick on the way back to the locker room.
3:33
Drew
Yeah, now he's got ahead of state. No, he's just up. Yeah, now he's really going. Are your brains in an entirely different state then? Things you would never otherwise even experience, you're now in that state.
3:42
Caller
It's true. I take it you don't philosophy. You don't, you don't cotton to that philosophy.
3:47
Drew
No, it's a good thing.
3:48
Adam
No, he doesn't. Songs from an American movie, volume two. We were talking about volume one last time we were here. This just hit the record stores a few days ago. Good, a, oh wait a minute. Yeah, good time for a bad attitude. And this is Everclear's second CD in this sort of two CD set that's not being released simultaneously. Would that be the way to say it?
4:12
Caller
Yeah, I guess.
4:14
Adam
One's a little more melodic and the other one's more of a rock CD.
4:17
Caller
This is the rock CD.
4:18
Adam
Right and I've been seeing the guys on TV and hearing everything on the radio so I'm just assuming everything is going extremely well for the band.
4:27
Caller
It's going good.
4:28
Adam
Good.
4:28
Caller
People buying records, things are good.
4:30
Adam
Yeah, that's good. You guys, I'm trying to think, I always offend the band but your band, we have a lot of bands on this show that come on real strong and then they fade away. And then there's other bands that come on real strong and they just keep going like gangbusters which is sort of few and far between and they don't come back onto this show ever. But you guys came on strong and I thought, oh these guys are great, I hope they're around for a while. And then they leveled out for a while but not a dip, just kind of a level and then came back strong again which is great and you came back which is great.
5:07
Caller
So basically, we're in a state of perpetual aggressive mediocrity that tends to lend us to have to stoop to your level.
5:17
Adam
Cyclical aggressive mediocrity that breeds repetitiveness and complacency. Right, Drew?
5:25
Drew
Yes, yes.
5:25
Adam
Thank you.
5:26
Drew
Thank you.
5:26
You were afraid you were going to offend us. Not at all.
5:29
Caller
We're right there with you.
5:30
Adam
Here's Hawkeye who's 22.
5:34
Caller
Hey, I love your show.
5:35
Adam
Thanks.
5:36
Caller
I've got a little fetish type problem that I can't seem to get rid of. The only way I can really get aroused with my wife is she has to take a shower and I have to be in the act of like tallying her off and otherwise I'd have no arousal whatsoever. I was wondering what I could do to change that.
5:58
Drew
What is it about the tallying off process?
6:00
Caller
I don't know. Just the act of doing it I guess is really kind of gets me going and there's nothing else that will do it for me.
6:06
Drew
How often does she have to act this out for you?
6:08
Caller
Boy, every time we want to do it, so probably every other night or so.
6:14
Adam
Does it have anything to do with hygiene? I mean, do you wonder, does the cleanliness part turn you on or is it the actual blotting that gives you a boner?
6:23
Caller
It's the actual, the rubbing and that kind of thing.
6:26
Adam
Yeah.
6:27
Caller
And nothing really else is going for me but that. I just want to know what I can do to change that around.
6:31
Drew
Well, why do you have to change it necessarily? Why is it important to change it?
6:34
Caller
Is she getting tired of taking showers?
6:38
Caller
Yeah, she's tired of being clean, I guess.
6:40
Caller
How about a bath? Is that okay? Is it just the toweling off?
6:44
Caller
It's just the toweling off.
6:46
Caller
Does she have to be wet or can you just rub her dry?
6:49
Drew
Take a squirt bottle, it was a little...
6:50
Adam
Yeah.
6:51
Drew
Mr. Spray, Mr. Yeah.
6:53
Adam
There was a little... Seltzer bottle.
6:55
Yeah.
6:56
Adam
I had a little humor in the boudoir.
6:59
Caller
What's not funny about that? Pie in the face, Seltzer bottle.
7:03
Adam
Yeah, Hawkeye, I don't know if this works for you and it's not hurting anybody and she doesn't seem to mind. I mean, we're all for it.
7:11
Caller
Why not?
7:12
Caller
Sounds good, I guess.
7:14
Adam
All right. Hey, can you watch pornography?
7:18
Drew
While you're towing?
7:19
Adam
Towing. Can you watch a regular porn or do you have to watch shower porn?
7:26
Caller
Well, no.
7:27
Caller
If so, let me tell you about one. There's one called Nymph with Chasie Layne. It's all about every time this guy turns on the shower, the nymph from the underwater spring comes out.
7:38
Adam
Oh, really?
7:39
Caller
And has sex in his bathtub. But she can only have sex and her and her little, her vixen friends can only have sex when they're around water. And the amazing thing is they're the spirits of Native American princesses that were killed in the water and became water nymphs.
7:58
Adam
I like when they get real lofty with the premises for those things.
8:01
Caller
It's really cool because Native American princesses from like 400 years ago had tattoos, tribal tattoos all over their pelvic region and piercings in their nipples. It's pretty cool. I didn't know that.
8:15
Adam
Right. And a bad weave. Hey Hawkeye, I'd like to recommend a porn called Mrs. Bubble. Now this is one that's not talked about.
8:26
Drew
All right.
8:27
Adam
All right Hawkeye, enjoy yourself.
8:29
Drew
It is interesting to know that people that have fetishes usually are sort of ashamed of them. They think there's something wrong. They need to change it.
8:34
Caller
Do you really think that was real?
8:36
Drew
I don't know.
8:36
Adam
Yeah, who cares? I'm with art though. It is funny when they try to do these historical porn movies. And you see that Washington or some guy is playing like MacArthur, but he's sporting a mullet. You know what I mean? It's just as bad. It's as bad as those Westerns from the 50s, when the guy had the hair pomade and the hair and grease back and the whole thing. Actually, it's a little better. Kane?
9:04
Yeah?
9:05
Adam
You're 16. What's up? Hey, I just made my question.
9:09
Caller
Just say hi to you guys. You guys rock. Adam, I'd take a bullet for you.
9:13
Adam
Great. Great.
9:14
Caller
Dr. Drew, I think you should run for president.
9:16
Adam
All right. There you go.
9:18
Caller
And you are an asshole.
9:19
Caller
Oh.
9:21
Adam
Does that take a bullet for me? Is that, would that work if I was going to be shot and I could somehow substitute you at a later date to be shot for me? Yeah, any time you want, you can pull me in.
9:31
Drew
However it would work, he's willing to do it.
9:32
Caller
I think it's connected with him being president.
9:35
Drew
Yeah, right.
9:36
Caller
I think Drew is smarter than Bush and Gore put together.
9:39
Caller
Yeah.
9:39
Caller
Bravo. He is.
9:41
Drew
But it's not hard to...
9:41
Caller
And he's up for the vice president.
9:43
Adam
Thank you. I immediately have... And now we're gonna shout. All right.
9:46
Caller
Let me say to the people of America and the nations of the world, that I hate your ass.
9:52
Adam
Great, too, with that sound.
9:54
Caller
You got me laughing all the time.
9:55
Adam
All right, Kane.
9:56
Caller
All right, see you later, guys.
9:57
Adam
Thanks a lot there.
9:58
Caller
Jessica. Yeah.
10:00
Adam
23, what's up?
10:02
Caller
I'm calling because I've been listening to your show a lot, waiting for someone to call up my problem. No one has. I'm calling because I have no vaginal sensation when I have intercourse.
10:14
Drew
Like numbness?
10:16
Caller
No, it's not necessarily numbness. It's just like someone touching my arm or something like that.
10:24
Caller
It's just...
10:26
Drew
You aren't aroused by it.
10:27
Caller
Right.
10:28
Adam
That's only when... Jesus Christ, Drew, you sound like Kissinger tonight. It's just going to be a long night. Can you go blow some phlegm or something? Do something, would you please? Jessica.
10:41
Caller
Yeah.
10:42
Adam
What about oral stimulation? What's that feel like?
10:44
Caller
You know, I've been with my boyfriend for many years. And in four years, I've had an orgasm twice through oral stimulation. I'm fine down there. It's just that, you know, he doesn't know I have this problem. Oh, boy.
11:01
Adam
Yeah. But I'm going to ask again, what does it feel like during oral stimulation? Does it feel numb?
11:06
Caller
No. During oral stimulation, I can't achieve orgasm. It's just oral stimulation doesn't last that long because he thinks I can have orgasm and orgasm vaginally.
11:17
Caller
Do you act like you have orgasms vaginally? Well, there you go.
11:22
Caller
But, I mean, I don't want our relationship to fail. I don't want him to think it's his problem.
11:28
Drew
It is his problem.
11:29
Caller
It's not his problem.
11:30
Caller
It is his problem.
11:31
Caller
Well, it's not his fault, okay? It's not his fault.
11:37
Adam
If this guy gave you oral sex for 20 minutes, would you have an orgasm?
11:43
Caller
Yeah, I probably would. It takes me a little while because I kind of tense up.
11:48
Drew
Yeah, let's listen. When people tell us they don't feel anything below their waist, one of the first questions we ask is, were you sexually abused? Because that's sometimes what happens when people have that history.
11:57
Caller
Did it shock you?
11:58
Caller
Well, when I was young, about eight, there was a kid who was 12 that I hung out with and we did experimenting. But other than that, it wasn't sexually abused.
12:06
Drew
Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
12:07
Adam
Drew, the wind blows in your crack and Drew claims that sexual abuse from guys.
12:11
Drew
No, if it was-
12:12
Caller
Well, he was older than me and he obviously knew it.
12:16
Adam
Yeah, an affair when you were nine. It's no big deal.
12:18
Drew
Listen, you were eight?
12:19
Caller
Right.
12:20
Drew
Did he try to put his penis in you?
12:21
Caller
Yeah, he did. But at last-
12:23
Drew
Okay, guys, okay.
12:24
Adam
All right, the penis was attached to him?
12:26
Caller
I'd have an eight-year-old girl if I found some closer-
12:29
Drew
That is sexual abuse.
12:30
Caller
Yeah.
12:30
Drew
That is profound sexual abuse and that will affect you.
12:33
Caller
No, I agree with that.
12:35
Adam
All right, how many times did that happen?
12:37
Caller
Once.
12:38
Adam
One time?
12:39
Caller
Once and I remember it was like five minutes.
12:44
Adam
Did you freak over it?
12:46
Caller
No, I didn't. It was kind of an experimental thing.
12:49
Adam
All right, let me talk to the panel for a moment. See, it only happened once. I understand that she has this problem, but it seems like too much for too little.
12:57
Drew
I agree with you.
12:58
Adam
I agree with you guys that it's sexual abuse.
13:00
Caller
Did she have lovers before it and she had, hi.
13:03
Caller
Yes.
13:04
Caller
Hi. Did you have lovers before your current significant other?
13:09
Caller
No, I didn't actually. I, no.
13:12
Drew
Maybe this relationship isn't working.
13:14
Caller
No.
13:16
Caller
It's not the relationship. I absolutely love him. We've been together for a long time. There's nothing wrong with the relationship. That's what I'm calling it.
13:23
Drew
Except you're not really into it.
13:24
Caller
It's something physical. I love having sex with him. That's why I have sex with him.
13:30
Adam
I'll roll my penis and coke to numb it up so I can keep an erection when I'm with the ladies. Sometimes that numbs the vagina.
13:37
Caller
I see. Too much information for me. How about you guys?
13:41
Adam
I didn't tell you guys that?
13:43
Drew
I thought he usually snorted up his penis.
13:46
Adam
I tried to train my penis to do that. It hurt when I was shoving that 20 up in there.
13:57
Caller
He sounds like Henry Kissinger doing that.
14:00
Drew
But listen, Jessica, so that may have had an influence on what's going on here. You certainly got yourself in a bind in terms of faking it with him. One of the things we tell people is to now make it seem like something has changed. For some reason, you don't understand why your functioning has suddenly halted. Maybe you could do this, a little bit of this, a little bit of that to try to bring you back in line again.
14:20
Adam
Right. It's like with the faking of the orgasms. It's like if you've been ripping off your work for five years, the day you get busted is the first day you started ripping stuff off. I mean, that's your wrap, right? No.
14:34
Caller
The problem is that he's very eager to please me.
14:38
Drew
Right. So give him that opportunity.
14:40
Caller
So the wedding will go on for an hour.
14:41
Adam
Yeah.
14:42
Caller
But-
14:42
Drew
It's not the right kind, Jessica. It's not what you need. And you have to stop and say, I don't know what it is, but try this.
14:47
Adam
Tell me once more of the oral sex.
14:49
Drew
That's all.
14:49
Caller
But what I want to know is, because I've talked to my gynecologist about it, and she said that some people have this problem. I mentioned it to her. And she said that some people have this problem. I don't know if it's hereditary. I don't ask my mom.
15:03
Caller
You don't want to talk to your mom about that's no stimulation? How weird.
15:07
Drew
Listen, we talked to lots of people who have problems with arousal and whatnot, and we're real pretty, all of us, I think, are pretty clear what Jessica's problem is.
15:14
Adam
Yeah.
15:14
Drew
Right? It has something to do with the sexual abuse past, but most importantly, it's her inability to be present and assert herself during her sexual experiences.
15:22
Adam
Yeah.
15:23
Drew
And she can't even, even to the point of, will not listen to our direction. No, it's not that. It's not that. When she knows she can function, if she just gives them some direction.
15:31
Adam
If people do not want to accept my assertion, then I'm ready to move on to other calls.
15:35
Drew
Okay.
15:36
Adam
All right.
15:38
Caller
I'm glad you guys feel good about it.
15:40
Adam
Listen, I had a long talk with Drew the other day. I said that we don't have to help every goddamn person who calls this show.
15:45
Drew
No, no, that was not a long talk. There's something you mentioned every night for the last six months.
15:50
Adam
One out of five seems good to me.
15:52
Caller
You know, lately, you guys have been sounding a little edgy on the air. Little edgy.
15:56
Adam
Yeah.
15:56
Caller
Got to tell you, sometimes I want to call in every time I plan on calling in. I call in and it's like, oh, hey, Art, this was this was a tape like three months ago. I'm like, hey, the guys will put me on the air. I'll be great. I'll be fine.
16:10
Adam
Hey, wait a minute. What are you talking about? We do a show live every night.
16:15
Caller
Shut up.
16:16
Drew
It must be one of the times. We were out occasionally.
16:19
Adam
Yeah, I've missed like-
16:20
Caller
You were out at that with one of those juggies or something.
16:23
Adam
Oh, yeah. I may have been-
16:25
Caller
Vanessa?
16:26
Adam
Oh, yeah. I may have been in Jamaica or something. You know how it is, Drew.
16:30
Drew
You're a big star and literally-
16:32
Adam
Literally a millionaire. Literally. Matt?
16:35
Caller
Who cares?
16:36
Adam
Matt, you're 19. What's up?
16:39
Caller
I had a question about birth control side effects. My girlfriend is using Depo-Provera. And we read that some of the side effects might include increased or decreased sexual desire. Yep. And it seems to be decreasing.
16:55
Drew
That's more often than not what happens.
16:56
Caller
Oh, really? Is there anything you can do about this?
16:59
Drew
Wait it out. Don't do it again.
17:01
Caller
What's that?
17:02
Drew
Wait the three months. It takes about three months for it to-
17:04
Caller
Well, she's been on it for how long? About a year now.
17:09
Drew
Yeah, right.
17:10
Adam
But you get the shot every three months, right?
17:12
Drew
So don't take another shot.
17:14
Caller
Don't get another shot?
17:15
Drew
Just get-
17:16
Caller
It's so easy.
17:18
Adam
But, man, it-
17:20
Drew
Wait a minute, man. Change your birth control. Change the birth control, Greg. Go back on the pill.
17:25
Caller
The pill?
17:26
Caller
Would that be a safe?
17:27
Drew
It would, Heal Houser. The pill?
17:29
Adam
It really is. I've never seen a guy. This is like a parrot. Are you on some pirate shoulder right now? The pill shivered me timbers. I've asked there.
17:43
Drew
Listen, the shot will wear off at three months. Don't take another shot. Use another means of contraceptive. Preferably the pill. Not so much progesterone, which is what is in the Depo Prevara.
17:55
Adam
When did she get the shot last, man?
17:57
Caller
Last? What was she to do for another one?
17:59
Adam
Last?
18:00
Caller
I guess it would be about three months.
18:01
Adam
Man, I'm going to ask you a serious question. I don't take the wrong one, but I'm doing a survey. When you're driving and you see a road sign, like yield, do you physically say yield while you're driving? Or do you just take in the meaning of the sign? Sometimes if I'm a little buzzed, I will actually say stop or yield.
18:20
Drew
Well, in Matt's case, he puts a question mark at the end of each state. Yield. Stop.
18:24
Adam
Hey, Matt, here's how you do it. You flush it out of her system with massive quantities of white vinegar. You hear me? You get her drink about a gallon and a half of white vinegar every day, and that'll flush it out. Okay? And then she goes on to the pill.
18:42
Caller
Don't forget to tell them about the leeches.
18:44
Adam
Oh, yeah. You want to go even faster and more economical way, you go leeches. I'm guessing you live near a swamp.
18:52
Drew
Okay.
18:53
Adam
No.
18:53
Drew
Matt, here's the deal. When did she have her last shot?
18:56
Caller
It seems, well, she's due for another one, so it's probably about three months ago.
18:59
Drew
Okay. So don't take the next shot. Go to the doctor and get another kind of contraception for her.
19:03
Caller
What do you suggest?
19:04
Drew
Like... Try ortho 777. Okay?
19:09
Caller
Ortho 777. Okay.
19:10
Drew
All right. There you go.
19:11
Adam
All right. You writing that down?
19:13
Caller
Yeah.
19:13
Caller
I've got it in my head. All right.
19:15
Adam
Well, hold on there, buddy. You got a lot of other stuff in your head, too. There's not a lot of room for you up there. You got the hee haw song up there. You got the country bear jamboree, the images of the papa bear. You got a lot of stuff floating around there. Give that to me again.
19:33
Drew
What's the pill?
19:34
Caller
Ortho 777.
19:35
Adam
Ortho. Ortho.
19:37
Caller
Ortho.
19:38
Caller
Ortho.
19:39
Caller
Ortho.
19:39
Caller
Ortho good.
19:41
Adam
That's right, buddy.
19:42
Caller
Okay. Time to go.
19:43
Drew
Whatever it takes, get him to remember it. That's fine.
19:44
Adam
Let's see. If I'm one of Matt's buddies, I start suggesting that he wears one of those blackboard necklaces. It's a little blackboard that comes on a string that you put around your neck, a piece of chalk on a string.
19:54
Caller
Kind of a flavor-flav test, right? Yeah.
19:56
Adam
You get an idea, you got a notion, you got an address, you got a phone number.
20:01
Caller
Pow!
20:02
Adam
Right down onto that blackboard, and then you look at it periodically during the day.
20:06
Caller
It's like riding in the back of a pickup truck, man. There's no way to have one of those and look cool.
20:11
Adam
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. And if you do wear one of those in the back of a pickup truck, it'll take your head off, especially on the highway, because there's a lot of wind there. Michael?
20:20
Caller
Yeah.
20:21
Adam
You're 29?
20:22
Caller
Yeah. How are you guys doing? Good. I got a question. I broke up with my fiancé about six, seven months ago. And about two months after that, I was put on a medication called Lamactyl, in addition to the...
20:36
Drew
Lamictal. Lamictal.
20:38
Caller
Yeah. In addition to the Depakote that I'm taking.
20:40
Drew
You took both.
20:42
Caller
Yeah. I'm taking both of them. And I know one of the side effects of Depakote is depression.
20:50
Drew
Well, you're being given those medicines for depression. Unless you have a seizure disorder?
20:55
Caller
Yes. I have epilepsy.
20:57
Drew
All right. That's kind of a strange combo for Lamictal.
21:01
Caller
Well, I was having... About a year ago, I started having seizures about every six weeks or so. And they put me under 24 hours to...
21:13
Drew
Were you on Depakote at that time?
21:15
Caller
I was on Delphoric acid.
21:17
Drew
That's Depakote. Same thing.
21:18
Caller
Well, yeah, but it kind of worked a little bit differently. So they put me back on Depakote.
21:23
Drew
All right. So the pharmacology is a little different, but it's basically the same thing.
21:28
Caller
Right. But according to my neurologist, it's slightly different.
21:32
Adam
I'm going to need to get on antidepressant here soon.
21:34
Drew
The point is, Depakote and Lamictal are both used for bipolar illness and actually used to treat depression. So it's kind of rare for them to cause depression.
21:43
Caller
Okay.
21:43
Drew
I mean, any medicine, you look at their package and say, depression's always on there. Okay.
21:48
Caller
So from what I understand, if I take it for epilepsy, it kind of works the opposite from what I understood.
21:56
Drew
Well, I'm not...
21:57
Caller
Regardless, if he's feeling depressed...
21:59
Drew
Yeah, if you're feeling depressed, you got to talk to your neurologist about it and get on something else. Like I said, any medicine you can name can cause depression.
22:05
Caller
Or maybe he's just depressed because of the breakup of his fiance.
22:09
Drew
Right, exactly.
22:10
Caller
Are you in therapy?
22:12
Caller
No, that was actually my other question. I had another question. If you knew of any, I guess, free services for therapy.
22:20
Drew
What area are you in?
22:21
Caller
San Diego.
22:23
Drew
You can try UC San Diego Medical School. They usually have those sorts of things available.
22:26
Caller
Okay.
22:27
Yeah?
22:28
Adam
Don't try San Diego State. They're all in Tijuana trying to score.
22:32
Caller
Yeah, though.
22:33
Adam
You okay?
22:34
Drew
I wouldn't be so terribly inclined to blame the medicines on this case. I mean, you should address it.
22:38
Caller
But I wasn't blaming the medicines.
22:40
Drew
No, no, I understand.
22:41
Caller
I was just saying that having been through depression that maybe regardless of it, even though some people are treated for depression, maybe he's depressed anyways. And this medication, for whatever reason, isn't helping or making it worse.
22:56
Drew
Yeah, right. Absolutely.
22:57
Adam
All right. We are going to take ourselves a break. I just want to check in with Alex real fast here. 25?
23:04
Drew
15.
23:05
Adam
Oh, is he 15?
23:05
Drew
Oh, no, 25.
23:06
Adam
Do you like the gang bang porn, do you?
23:09
Caller
Yeah.
23:11
I also wanted to say hello to Everclear. I've been using him since the Tim Kerday.
23:17
Caller
It's another subject.
23:18
Caller
Oh, very cool. So you like the Everclear and the gang bang porn. Cool.
23:23
Adam
Yeah, you're halfway to hell.
23:24
Caller
Hey, man.
23:24
Not together, you know, but.
23:26
Caller
Hey, man, there's a lot of times when I turn on the old gang bang porn, throw an Everclear record.
23:32
Adam
That was it.
23:33
Caller
Is that a freak flag fly?
23:34
Caller
What are you talking about, dude?
23:35
Caller
That's a combo.
23:37
Adam
Is that like?
23:38
Caller
Craig knows what I'm talking about.
23:39
Caller
Not in my house.
23:39
Caller
It's a combo not to be reckoned with.
23:41
Adam
Is that like five guys and the one chick porn? Yeah. Yeah. You know what I like best about those movies is when they have the guys, the four guys who aren't getting the BJ during the gang bang are all kind of doing that sort of, it's not quite jacking off. It's like jack light. It's like the kind of jacking you do.
24:02
Caller
It's maintenance jack.
24:04
Adam
Yeah, it's a maintenance jack.
24:05
Caller
They're just trying to maintain the stiffing.
24:08
Adam
Yeah.
24:09
Caller
It's like self fluff.
24:10
Adam
It'd be like, it's kind of what the fighters do as they enter the ring. It's not actually the fight. It's just kind of staying loose, throwing a couple of jabs, moving the head around a little bit, you know, a guy on his back, putting a little sponge on the nuts, you know, just the guy's got to kind of keep it going, which is, I don't know, I would be insulted if I was the woman. And insult the four guys trying to keep it going.
24:34
Caller
That's the whole reason behind it, man.
24:36
Adam
They're being insulted.
24:37
Caller
Pretty much. It's, can I?
24:41
Adam
It is a little degrading.
24:42
Caller
It's all about degradation. Can, do you have a girlfriend? Wife?
24:46
Adam
Wait, hold on. I'll put them on hold. We're going to, we're going to take a little break. Everclear is here. We're going to hear something off the new CD, songs from an American movie. We'll take a little break. We'll get back with Alex Everclear and music after that.
25:03
Caller
Loveline, we'll be right back.
25:05
Caller
Call on the 1-800-LOVE-191.
25:07
Caller
1007-THE-BUZZ.
25:22
Caller
This is the Loveline.
25:22
Adam
I'm Adam Corolla. Here's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Art Craig and Greg are all here from Everclear. We're going to hear a song off the new CD, Songs from an American Movie. This CD just came out about four or five days ago, and this is the rock one. So we will hear something off of that, and I think we'll finish up with Alex, and then we'll hear a song. Alex? Yeah? Alright, so you're 25, and you like the gang bang porn.
25:57
Caller
Well, I do, but it makes me, it's really, I think it's really degrading and disgusting at the same time.
26:03
Adam
Right.
26:04
Caller
And so my question is, well, I guess is that normal? I mean, I'm really, really, you know, turned on by it, but at the same time, the actual, you know, concept of it, I think, is really disgusting. And I get myself when I'm actually with my partner, feeling, you know, kind of like fantasizing about it, but at the same time feeling really guilty about it. And it's the big enough issue for me.
26:30
Adam
You're thinking too much.
26:31
Drew
It sounds like the way Adam relates to masturbation in general.
26:34
Adam
Right.
26:34
Drew
You overthink it. You feel guilty when you're by yourself. You're disgusted when you're done.
26:38
Adam
You're ruined.
26:39
Drew
It never happened again.
26:39
Adam
It's like swinging a golf club. You can't be thinking about inhaling or exhaling or wind. You just, you got to swing away. You got to swing away. You think too much. It goes right into the sand trap. Your semen will go right into the sand trap. And then it will gather sand. You know, it'll come out like one solid piece. It's really gross. Alex? Yeah. You're doing too much thinking. The whole idea of porn is to kind of roll in your own filth for a few minutes a day. Or for me, like an hour and fifteen, hour and a half a day. But that's a whole deal. You know what I mean? Why is that going to a rock concert or something?
27:17
Caller
So basically what you're saying is sex for you or when you're by yourself is better with an element of shame.
27:26
Caller
Right.
27:26
Adam
Yeah.
27:27
Caller
Right.
27:29
Adam
Or that kind of dicey, seedy element.
27:31
Caller
Now, all joking aside, I've had issues like that in the past, like years ago when I was single or I was in relationships that I didn't feel fulfilled. Is there, is there a connection there? Do you think between one and one? Well, just, just a feeling of, of low self-esteem and shame. What's your self-image when you, after you watch it, are you pissed off at yourself? Alex, after watching this, even though you feel maybe sexually sated?
28:00
Caller
Yeah. I feel, I feel kind of disgusted with myself. Like I, like I'm thinking below what my ethics would be.
28:07
Caller
Is that a turn on at all though?
28:10
Caller
Well, I'm feeling bad about myself.
28:11
Caller
The shame, the element of shame.
28:14
Caller
Maybe, maybe there's, I don't know, more thought.
28:17
Adam
Well, do you think it translates in your relationships?
28:21
Caller
Um, I don't know. That's, that's what I'm concerned about. I feel like there's this big reality.
28:27
Adam
But listen, Alex, you know, you're 25. You're asking all the right questions. You're asking too many questions. You're nuts wish you would shut up and just whack off a little bit. I think you're going, you're fine. I'm not, I don't, he doesn't sound like a guy with a real problem to me.
28:43
Drew
Well, not one that we can really deal with. I mean, all right.
28:46
Caller
But let's get rid of him.
28:48
Drew
He's got a lot of shame and he's got some issue of aggression towards women. And when he expresses it, he feels really guilty about it. And all right, but he would, he wants to degrade a woman in some way.
28:57
Adam
But degradation is, I put him on hold. Degradation is kind of a part of a lot of people's arousal.
29:03
Caller
Right.
29:03
Drew
But for him, it has special meaning for some reason, because he feels super guilty about it. And he sort of equates that with feelings he has about his girlfriend and then hides it from them real quickly.
29:11
Caller
He said his partner. He said his partner.
29:16
Adam
He's talking about Alex. You're talking about a woman, right?
29:20
Caller
Your partner.
29:21
Caller
Alex, I think he hung up.
29:22
Drew
His car phone. No, no, listen.
29:24
Caller
Yeah, that's good radio.
29:26
Caller
See, there's a big question.
29:27
Adam
Let me ask that then. I think for most guys, a certain degree of degradation is good, or at least enjoyable in the bedroom.
29:38
Drew
A certain degree of yourself or of the other.
29:41
Adam
No, not of myself, you jackass. How dare you?
29:43
Drew
Well, it's reciprocal.
29:45
Caller
You're big into how dare you these days.
29:47
Adam
Let me ask. That's my new.
29:49
Caller
That's that's your new thing.
29:50
Adam
It's my new thing. Well, listen, we got into two hours of radio. Now you got to say stuff over and over again. So you don't have to think so much. That's one of the things we don't have that problem. I know. But if you sat in here every night for two hours, you'd end up it's like you go out on concert, go out on tour, you sing the same songs every night, right?
30:07
Caller
Well, yeah, but...
30:08
Adam
How dare you? How dare you?
30:09
Caller
How dare you? Well, how dare you?
30:12
Adam
Here's what I'm saying.
30:13
Caller
Let's open it up to the power. Let's see what the boys have to say about it.
30:17
Adam
You guys, when you have sex, there's a certain amount of little ass grabbing, little teeth gritting, little hair tugging.
30:23
Drew
When Craig and I have sex?
30:24
Adam
Yeah, when you guys are getting on in the tour bus.
30:26
Drew
Definitely.
30:27
Adam
I think most guys have sex.
30:29
Caller
They don't have sex anymore.
30:30
Adam
There's a certain amount of, yeah baby, you love it. You know what I mean? Especially if you get a few beers and you're, Drew, will you back me up on this? Don't you think that's normal for most guys?
30:37
Drew
A certain amount of aggression.
30:39
Caller
Yeah, but I mean, it seems like a certain amount. Most women, I would have to say just about every woman I've ever met, to a certain degree, to varying degrees, that appeals to them.
30:52
Drew
Degradation.
30:52
Adam
Yeah. Yeah.
30:55
Caller
To be submissive to a certain extent.
30:57
Adam
Yeah.
30:57
Caller
You guys are like cavemen. There's a little cave girl.
30:59
Adam
Being naughty.
31:00
Drew
You guys are talking around different things, though. Being submissive.
31:03
Caller
I agree. I totally agree.
31:04
Drew
But he's degrading. I mean, your grandmother and your mom hit you over the head with your own testicles.
31:09
Adam
That was only in a dream.
31:10
Drew
I understand. But we have no proof it was that. It's understandable that that would make you feel.
31:14
Adam
I'm so sorry I ever told you about that, Drew.
31:16
Caller
Why did you tell him that?
31:18
Adam
I'm so sorry.
31:18
Caller
He doesn't like you.
31:19
Drew
He didn't realize what he was saying. He goes, I had this wild dream last night. I was in the swimming pool. I was in the deep end and these two haunchy women came over and beat me over the head with my own testicles just after describing his mother and his grandmother as haunchy. Five months ago.
31:33
Caller
Oh, dude.
31:35
Adam
Yeah. Yeah, I was beat with my own testicles by my family.
31:40
Drew
So it's understandable that he would feel some need to degrade and feel power over somebody that made him feel that way.
31:47
Adam
I see.
31:47
Caller
I see.
31:48
Adam
Is it important to you that I cry, Kissinger?
31:51
Caller
No.
31:51
Adam
Can't you go work on some kind of peace accord or some summit and have some salt treaty or something, you jackass? Why do you always do this in front of the band?
32:00
Drew
I'm just inspired by R. How dare you?
32:02
Caller
Can you please say the word testicles and the word haunchy? Why can't we just endure?
32:07
Drew
The Soviet Republic tended to sport haunchy testicles.
32:12
Caller
You did it better a minute ago.
32:14
Adam
Yeah.
32:14
Caller
He's not a good pressure guy, Drew.
32:15
Adam
He turned his spot line on me tacos.
32:18
Drew
You hit your nuts.
32:19
All right.
32:20
Adam
We've got nowhere with that, but that's fine. Expect another hour and 25 minutes worth of that.
32:26
Caller
Of the same.
32:27
Adam
We're going to hear something from Everclear. You queued up there, Anderson. This one is called When It All Goes Wrong Again. It's a little offering from our good friends, Everclear. Songs from an American Movie, Volume 2, Good Time for a Bad Attitude is the name of the CD. It is currently out, and while you're out there picking up that CD, if you haven't already, you can get the Volume 1, Learning How to Smile, which is slightly more mellow of the two.
36:50
Drew
How do you guys feel about Napster?
36:53
Caller
What, about Napster in general, and the fact that they just, in general? Well, I think the technology is really cool. I think it sucks that they use anything or anyone borrows something without permission. I don't believe file borrowing or sharing is sharing or borrowing if you take something without somebody's permission.
37:18
Adam
I totally agree. I mean, I know it doesn't sound cool. Like in a way you sound like you sound uptight when you say it.
37:25
Drew
You're in the man's back pocket, Adam. That's the thing.
37:27
Adam
Right.
37:29
Caller
That's true.
37:30
Drew
But aren't you by making yourself available to Napster, by being online in that way? Can't you block all that?
37:36
Caller
No, you can't block it.
37:37
Drew
You can't?
37:38
Caller
No, the man, someone, they get their records because basically you have to send out advance records, right?
37:46
Drew
Yeah.
37:46
Caller
You have to send out that advance records to radio, to press, to publicity.
37:51
Drew
That's how they get it.
37:52
Caller
Shows like you guys get records before anyone else does. And someone along the way will sell it to Napster for 100 bucks and then...
37:59
Adam
Oh, 100. Christ, I got... What did I get? 65 for the last one? 100 bucks. Are you asking me? Seriously. Sons of bitches. I've had it up to here with this Napster and their under-money, their dirty deal.
38:12
Caller
Man, they just sold out to the man. They just did a deal with BMG.
38:16
Adam
Well, I mean, I don't... I say, I don't subscribe to this theory that everything on the Internet should be free because it's not... I mean, it's merchandise. Anything that was being sold and is now free, that's wrong. Whatever it is, whether it's art or ideas or whatever it is, if somebody's charging for something, getting paid for it, then they should be compensated.
38:40
Caller
Yes.
38:40
Adam
I agree with that.
38:41
Caller
Well, it costs money to make records, you know, and that's the whole thing.
38:44
Adam
I mean, what if they did it with TV shows? You know what I mean?
38:47
Caller
Well, they will. They're doing it with movies. They're starting to do it with movies. I mean, the technology is going to get to the point where they're going to be able to do that and someone connected with it is going to leak it. And once it's leaked, it's done. Right. A digital copy of a movie, it's like, you know, it's just going to be free. So basically it has to get to the point that people are going to start putting, you know, some sort of safeguards in it. And then the bright boys and girls on the other side of the fence are going to figure some way to get rid of that. I never worried about it as much and I never wanted to go out and be like Metallica and yell at people and make it a big deal because these things always figure themselves out. They really do. Sooner or later, I mean, I talk to people, I've got friends at work at Napster that used to work in the record industry and they're like, the only reason we came on is because we were told it was going to get legit, that there was a deal brewing. But right now, we have to appeal to all the frustrated college students and we need to get press. So the only way to get press is to be defiant and outlaw.
39:56
Adam
Well, I heard, somebody showed me that there's a couple versions of me singing the Taboo 2 theme song on Napsap's song.
40:06
Caller
We'll see.
40:08
Caller
Yes, he does.
40:10
Adam
You guys in the Taboo 2 at all? He knows how to please in every detail.
40:17
Caller
Art is wondering what the hell's happened to him.
40:19
Adam
The guy's banging his sister and his mom. Then you'd ever imagine. Jump into the ukulele, Greg.
40:27
Caller
Yeah, I think that should be made available free. I mean, I don't think anyone should have to pay for that.
40:32
Adam
Oh, please. The movie itself cost almost $1,800. Oh, yes, my big moment.
40:45
Caller
That's my stage.
40:47
Adam
That's the stage experience coming through.
41:01
Caller
Something's wrong.
41:02
Adam
The big ending here, alright?
41:03
Caller
Go, go. Big hand for Adam Corolla.
41:19
Adam
Thank you very much.
41:21
Caller
I did that in case he was going to go into another standard.
41:23
Caller
I had no idea.
41:25
Adam
Yeah, that's that's the Taboo 2 theme song, which can be found on Napster, I'm told.
41:31
Caller
All right.
41:31
Adam
So I guess we're I mean, how much does it cost to make a CD? I don't know.
41:35
Caller
Very, we got to go to a break.
41:37
Caller
Hold on.
41:38
Adam
So how much it cost to make this CD for you guys to make it?
41:41
Caller
I mean, everything all in everything makes.
41:44
Caller
Yeah, right.
41:45
Caller
But it cost 400 grand, 400 grand. So that one cost more.
41:49
Adam
Right. 400 grand. Why should it be free? Yeah. You know what I mean? That's what it is. You're buying a piece of that 400 grand.
41:55
Caller
Well, the whole thing about the technology is if you only like one song off it, then buy that one song. Let's figure out how they can buy that one song. That's fair. But to me, it should be like anything. If you buy more songs, you get it cheaper.
42:10
Drew
Well, that's the point. It should be able to drive price, but not eliminate price.
42:14
Adam
All right, Kissinger. We're going to take ourselves a break. You bring that up at the next Summit meeting. When we come back, we'll talk to Julia. She's 17. She's hooked on the laxatives all after this.
42:27
Caller
1-800-LOVE-191.
42:29
Caller
We'll be right back.
42:47
Caller
This is the show known as Loveline.
42:50
Caller
With your hosts, Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
42:53
Adam
90 Line, I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Everclear is here. That would be Art, Craig, and Greg, all from the band. And Drew's nursing a cold. Art is nursing a cold.
43:08
Caller
Yep.
43:08
Adam
And Craig is nursing one as well. But Greg and I never felt better.
43:14
Caller
That's right.
43:15
Adam
All right, let's talk to Julia. Yeah, Julia's 17.
43:18
Everclear
Hi, Everclear, you guys are awesome.
43:20
Caller
Thank you.
43:21
Everclear
Adam, Drew, before I ask my question, I just want to tell you, I think you guys are like wonderful people and you guys help out a lot of people.
43:29
Adam
Thanks.
43:30
Everclear
I saw you guys at the Best Buy in Westminster.
43:33
Adam
Yeah.
43:34
Everclear
Do you remember I asked you for free tickets to the Man Show, Adam?
43:39
Drew
Yeah.
43:40
Everclear
You remember that? Yeah. Well, I had a question about eating disorders.
43:45
Drew
Okay.
43:46
Everclear
For about a year, I probably been, I was bulimic for about five or six months at first, and then it got too hard to do. So I got, I found out about laxatives and I got hooked on those.
44:01
Drew
But that's part of bulimia. It's still bulimia.
44:03
Everclear
Yeah. But.
44:04
Drew
I mean, you're not vomiting anymore.
44:05
Everclear
Right.
44:06
Drew
Well, it's the same thing.
44:08
Adam
Now, how, how, I've never taken a laxative in my life. I put a jacuzzi jet in my ass several dozen times, which is the man's laxative. I don't have time for those things that kick in.
44:20
Drew
You never, Art, you didn't hear this story?
44:23
Adam
No.
44:23
Drew
This was in preparation for weapons use of the, I guess you'd call it an ejaculate.
44:31
Adam
Let me tell you, a man does what he's got to do.
44:33
Caller
A 17 year old girl on the line, come on now.
44:36
Adam
But the point is, I swear you shoot water 18 feet out of your ass. You've never seen, you've never seen anything like it.
44:43
Caller
Why would you want to do that?
44:45
Drew
Weapons.
44:45
Adam
You know how...
44:46
Drew
To fight back.
44:47
Adam
Yeah. Who? Things, I was attacked by other guys who did that too. It was not a great time in my life.
44:56
Caller
This is like two weeks ago?
44:57
Adam
No, how dare you? This is almost nine weeks now. What is it? No, this is high school. But Julia?
45:05
Everclear
Yeah?
45:06
Adam
Get them off that one. You want to use the jacuzzi method or?
45:09
Everclear
No.
45:09
Adam
No. And how do the laxatives work? I know they work, but do you take it in the morning? Do you take it after the meal?
45:15
Drew
They take lots of it all day long.
45:17
Adam
Take it all day?
45:17
Everclear
After the meal, but I never took it by like fifty or a hundred like most people do. I started out with about two, then moved to four and it kept going up. The most I ever took it once was about two days ago. I took like thirty-four of them.
45:30
Drew
So it's bizarre as they think that somehow.
45:32
Everclear
But they didn't work, they didn't work at all that good because my system's so used to it.
45:38
Drew
Yeah, well you can get to the point where your colon won't move. I've had patients actually have to have a colon removed. They end up with a bag.
45:43
Caller
Yes.
45:43
Drew
Because the colon won't work anymore.
45:45
Caller
Colostomy, that?
45:45
Drew
Yes, absolutely.
45:46
Caller
That's attractive. Yeah.
45:48
Adam
And that adds weight to that big dookie bag. It does. What? Four or five pounds on average. I take mine off before I get on the scale. It's vanity. I admit it.
45:59
Drew
It's interesting. It's not, you know, they somehow believe that somehow the laxatives make the food go through them. Which in fact is just causing chronic inflammation.
46:08
Adam
But Julia, does it, I mean, so you eat a big, let's say Thanksgiving, you sit down and eat a big meal, right? Then you pop the laxatives immediately after you've finished a meal.
46:18
Everclear
I don't eat a lot, though.
46:20
Drew
No kidding.
46:20
Everclear
It's just that it makes me feel uncomfortable. Like I bloat really easily.
46:25
Drew
You bloat because again, your bowel swells up when you're not taking laxatives. And you've got to get off these things.
46:30
Everclear
Like even-
46:31
Drew
You're also going to get swelling in your legs when you stop. Your kidneys are severely stressed by all this. And the kidneys used to working hard to hang on to sodium and electrolytes. And when you stop, the kidney will still have been in a state of adjustment, will continue to hang on to the salt, and your legs will swell up like crazy for several months. And you just have to go through that.
46:50
Caller
What about the mental aspect of that?
46:52
Drew
Yeah, something has to be treated.
46:53
Caller
I mean, you know you have a problem with this, right? That's why you're calling, which is really cool. But have you talked to anyone about it? Have you talked to... I assume you haven't talked to your parents?
47:04
Everclear
No, I was actually going to call a therapist, try to get some help.
47:09
Drew
Good.
47:10
Caller
Good.
47:11
Everclear
If I have to get it through my doctor, right? Well, they tell my... Isn't it illegal for them to tell my parents anything?
47:18
Drew
That's right.
47:19
Everclear
Okay.
47:20
Drew
But be careful that they will be sending what's called explanation of benefit forms to your parents, which is show what they were paid for.
47:27
Everclear
Right.
47:27
Drew
If you've talked to your doctor about that, maybe there are ways they can sort of couch that in euphemisms.
47:32
Caller
How does that work? Are you a member? Are your parents belong to an HMO?
47:37
Everclear
No, PPO.
47:39
Drew
Yeah, so they'll send an explanation of benefit back home.
47:41
Adam
All right, we gotta take a break. But will it be a big stamp that says laxative junkie on the receipt that they get in the mail? No. All right, take care of yourself, Julia, please. We'll be back.
47:52
Caller
Loveline.
47:52
Caller
1-800-LOVE-191.
47:55
Caller
We'll be right back.
47:56
Caller
Right now, go and join Loveline on 94.7 at RK. We'll do our alternative.
48:01
Caller
Well, hell yeah.
48:02
Adam
My goodness sake.
48:03
Caller
Okay, terrific.
48:31
Caller
It's Loveline.
48:32
Adam
I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. That's Greg on the air drums in Space Ukulele. Craig is a nurse in a cold over there. So is Art. That is Everclear. And so is Drew. And I know we bring this up every time you get sick, but it is funny when a doctor gets sick.
48:50
Caller
I love it.
48:50
Adam
You have to admit that.
48:51
Caller
There's a certain evil eye anywhere.
48:53
Caller
Well, at least supposed to like heal. What is that? Physician heal thyself?
48:57
Adam
Right.
48:58
Drew
And also as a physician who attempts to do so as a fool for a doctor. But it's nice that I can entertain Adam in some capacity.
49:06
Adam
It's funny.
49:07
Drew
I'm not always that lame.
49:09
Caller
Well, there's a payback because he constantly entertains you.
49:12
Adam
But if you open the paper and read that the fire chief's house burned down, you chuckle just a little bit, wouldn't you? It's the same irony.
49:21
Caller
Craig's got a story there.
49:23
Caller
My grandfather was a Spokane fire chief up in Washington.
49:26
Caller
Me and my brother set this big field on fire. We were on the paper and there was a picture of him scolding us.
49:33
Caller
It was bad, bad, bad, bad.
49:36
Adam
Wow. How old were you?
49:39
Caller
My brother was like 10 and I was like 7.
49:42
Caller
Did you ever set anything on fire big? Because I set a field on fire as well. I was showing off for some girl when I was like 4 or 5. Typical. Girls always get me in trouble. My first car, my first driving ticket, my first car, I went and got it when I was like 15 and a half, 16.
49:58
Adam
Nova? What was it? Nova, Dart?
50:00
Caller
Close dude. 69 Camaro.
50:02
Adam
Camaro. No, 69. It jacked up in the back.
50:06
Caller
Jacked up in the back. Bondo broken up all over the front.
50:09
Adam
Primer all over the place.
50:10
Caller
My mom begged me not to buy that car.
50:13
Adam
Yeah.
50:13
Caller
But it's my money.
50:14
Adam
And how much that car cost you by the way?
50:17
Caller
Oh, $800.
50:18
Adam
$800.
50:18
Caller
But that was $800, $1978.
50:21
Adam
And what were you doing when you got popped? I mean, just doing a brody or something?
50:25
Caller
Man, no. Check it out. I went over with, you know, I had a permit. So at the time, you could drive around with someone under 21. My friend was 18. So we went and got a six-pack beer. Got in the car. Went over and picked up my friend Dee Dee, who I had a big crush on. And she's like, make it go fast. So I'm just like, whaa! Down this residential street in Santa Monica, you know.
50:49
Adam
Did you've been wrenching on the car? Did you put some headers or cams in it?
50:54
Caller
I just picked up the car.
50:56
Adam
Ah, perfect.
50:56
Caller
And sitting at the end of the street, there's this cop sitting in his car with his dog, canine guy, eating a sandwich.
51:03
Caller
Eating a donut?
51:04
Caller
Yeah, no, a sandwich.
51:05
Caller
Sandwich?
51:06
Caller
Probably gonna wash it down with a couple of donuts.
51:08
Adam
Did you go to traffic school? Did you pay it off? What did you do?
51:10
Caller
Oh, well, that was interesting because I went and talked to the judge. And see, I didn't have a license, so it's a different thing.
51:18
Adam
But you had your permit.
51:19
Caller
I had my permit, but I was 15 and a half, so I had to go talk to the judge. And so I tried to bring my sister in, the judge is like, no, you're not getting away with this. That's not gonna work. You gotta bring your mom in. So I thought I'd get away with that, telling my mom about it. Man, I was a sneaky little guy.
51:40
Adam
I never lit anything on fire. I mean, there was no fields in North Hollywood, really. There were dumpsters you could light.
51:48
Drew
There was some man on fire.
51:49
Adam
Yeah, but I was into making those Polish cannons, those things that fired tennis balls.
51:55
Caller
Oh yeah, tennis balls. Get two tennis balls.
51:59
Drew
Motive mortars.
52:00
Caller
Two tennis ball cans, right?
52:02
Adam
Tape them together, put a little lighter fluid. Yeah, cologne, alcohol, any kind of rubbing alcohol, anything flammable, anything that we could air out and get a little vapor going and then put that match there and then boom. And then at night, you doused the tennis ball with lighter fluid, light that, fire that, and then watch that bounce into the neighbor's yard and then everyone just scrambled. You ever did that, Drew, that is, the Irish Cannon?
52:23
Drew
Yeah, I did that.
52:24
Adam
Oh, that's right, you were playing croquet.
52:26
Drew
Yeah, I didn't send flaming tennis balls into the neighbor's yard.
52:30
Adam
Well, you see, that's the whole thing.
52:32
Caller
You ever play devil on the doorstep? That was a good one, too.
52:35
Adam
How'd that go?
52:35
Caller
Oh, basically, you go up to a doorstep and you take someone's trash can and you put it right near their door, like trash night, you know, the night before they come pick up the trash, and you put it right on their door, like leaning on the door. So then you knock on the door and when they open the door, the trash just falls in their house.
52:55
Adam
You know, you can't do as much stuff with those plastic rolling receptacles as you could with the old days.
53:01
Caller
This was back in the old days, and before plastic bags. No one had plastic bags. No. Who's that can out every week?
53:08
Adam
We used to use Catgut. That's all we had.
53:11
Caller
We liked it.
53:12
Adam
Once in a while. I remember when the man from GLAAD came around, though.
53:16
Caller
The GLAAD man.
53:17
Adam
He drove. He had like Dick Tracy's trash can. He flew around in a trash can. Remember the man from GLAAD? All right. Nadia?
53:27
Yeah.
53:28
Adam
You're 16. What's up?
53:29
Caller
Yeah. Hi, everyone. Okay. Well, I don't know what you would call it, but I used to have an obsession with Eminem, Marshall Mathers and Shady. And it's been for about like the past eight months. And like, my question is that would you guys advise me that this is just like a phase that, you know, he doesn't even know I exist?
53:48
Drew
No, I think you're going to marry him. I do.
53:49
Adam
Yeah. I count on it.
53:51
Drew
Yeah.
53:51
Adam
Now he, I would say it would be a phase.
53:54
Drew
And it's a phase that many people get to go through.
53:57
Adam
Drew, you had that with Bobby Sherman growing up, I believe?
54:00
Caller
Yeah, I do.
54:01
Drew
It was David Jones.
54:02
Adam
Oh, David Jones.
54:03
Caller
No, it was Bobby Goldsboro.
54:04
Caller
Yeah.
54:06
Adam
And if you see Laura Teller, what the hell song was that? He was singing about some chick. It was, he was dying. What the? I got a friend of that Bobby Goldsboro song.
54:16
Caller
Oh, wasn't it about the puppy? About a puppy for-
54:19
Adam
Yeah, but he was dying or something. People used to write songs when they were dying. You guys need to write some dying songs.
54:26
Caller
Dude, I could write dying songs, make your head spin.
54:29
Adam
No, but I mean ones where you're actually dying while you're singing the song.
54:32
Caller
Oh, okay.
54:33
Adam
You're on the train tracks, the train's coming.
54:35
Caller
I'll do it.
54:35
Adam
You're thinking of Laura.
54:36
Caller
I'll call it Adam's song. Oh, wait a minute.
54:39
Caller
Yeah.
54:40
Adam
Nady, you're fine. Just don't freak out too much.
54:43
Caller
Do you think he'll ever be on the show?
54:46
Adam
He was on the show, I think it was about a year and a half ago.
54:50
Caller
He's too big.
54:52
Adam
Then he called, I think he called the show up. It was like nine months or a year ago. We had another guest on the show. I don't know who it was. Maybe it was, does this sound familiar to anybody? I know he called in the show, but I can't remember who it was. I don't know why he called in the show.
55:09
Drew
Anderson remembers.
55:10
Caller
He didn't?
55:11
Drew
No.
55:12
Adam
It wasn't Eminem who called in the show? Who was it? Yeah, it was.
55:15
Caller
No, it wasn't Eminem. I don't remember who it was, but it wasn't Eminem.
55:18
Adam
Yeah, it was. Well, listen, you have no way of proving it. All right, we'll get him on the show for you, Nadya.
55:25
Caller
Nadya, I'm just curious. Why are you so obsessed about him? What just draws you to him?
55:31
Caller
His talent, actually. I mean, about his looks.
55:33
Caller
Oh, OK. So his looks and his talent.
55:36
Caller
Yeah, he's very talented. I'm a very big fan.
55:39
Caller
In which way do you think he's talented?
55:41
Caller
He's like he can freestyle very well. He's like lyrics, you know, like he's a very good lyricist.
55:48
Adam
Do you do any of that yourself?
55:49
Caller
No, no, not at all.
55:51
Adam
Why not, though? I mean, why doesn't it inspire you to get interested in that?
55:55
Caller
No, it doesn't. I mean, I'm like in 11th grade. It's the hardest year of my high school. I'm taking three APs. I'm just like the farthest thing from that.
56:02
Caller
Right.
56:02
Caller
But I'm just a really big fan. I would like love to be on Fanatic, but I think he was already on once.
56:08
Caller
All right.
56:08
Adam
Well, we'll pull a few strings over there to MTV and see if we can get you on. I'll pick up the MTV hotline.
56:14
Caller
All right.
56:15
Adam
Nadya, you're fine. This is normal.
56:17
Drew
You need a little more sort of emotional gratification from your real life though. I mean, you're in your books full time now, right? Yeah. I mean, you are really working hard and you need to get a little more balance.
56:27
Adam
How about the guys at school? Do they like you?
56:30
Caller
Yeah, but like they're more of my brothers. I've known them all my life.
56:33
Drew
You go to a little private school or something?
56:34
Caller
Yeah.
56:35
Adam
Yeah. All right. Well, what's wrong with having sex with your brother?
56:38
Drew
No, have fun.
56:40
Adam
She's 17.
56:41
Caller
Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Where do you live? Do you live in the valley?
56:45
Drew
Yeah, Northridge.
56:46
Caller
Yeah. See, then it's okay to have sex with your brother.
56:48
Adam
Yeah, it's fine. That's how that area of the valley got populated so quickly.
56:53
Drew
Find some outside sort of peer groups that you can relate with and take the pressure off this a little bit.
56:59
Adam
And get out of that corner of hell. Would you please? Where are you? Down on like Devonshire and DeSoto or something?
57:06
Caller
There's plenty of guys who want to look like Eminem.
57:10
Adam
If I got to fly over that area in a plane, I almost kill myself. You understand?
57:14
Drew
When your model plane flies over to your place.
57:16
Adam
Oh my God. All right, Nadia. Okay, thank you. I used to work out there in one of those dungeons where they... oh, Cinder Block shops making cabinets with a bunch of guys named Tom and Dave. Oh boy, the lunch truck's coming.
57:31
Caller
Come back to us.
57:32
Caller
The lunch truck's coming, boys.
57:34
Caller
It's better now.
57:34
Caller
It was a long time ago.
57:35
Caller
Let it go.
57:36
Caller
Let it go. Jay Leno used to work on cars.
57:39
Adam
Oh, we're gonna live it up.
57:40
Drew
Adam used to work on Jay Leno's house.
57:41
Adam
Yeah, I did work on Jay Leno's house. That's right.
57:44
Caller
Really? Is this Joe Rowley? Yeah, I know this. I've seen him in person.
57:46
Adam
I tell you, this... I like Jay Leno. One of the things that got me into comedy, or at least made me decide to think I should get into comedy because it was another ten years, is I was doing a remodel on a house that was directly across the street from Jay Leno's house when he used to live up in the hills on like Woodrow Wilson or something here in the Hollywood Hills off of Mulholland. I was working on his neighbor's house and we actually, his neighbors were on friendly terms with them and they used to ask they could park the car in his driveway so we could pull our truck in and blah, blah, blah. It's the kind of thing where I'd show up at three and we'd knock off, sorry, I'd show up about 7 AM, we'd knock off like four in the afternoon. I was looking out the window and I would notice Leno, who wasn't Leno back then, he was just a stand up. This is over 10 years ago, probably about 15, 16 years ago. He'd just walk, I'd say this guy about noon, he'd come out, he'd get the newspaper about noon in his bathrobe, then he'd walk back in his house, and then he'd come back out about two in the afternoon with his portable phone, he'd sit down in his garage and start wrenching on his motorcycles. So I started walking over there after we'd knock off just to go look at his bikes and hand him a wrench and talk to him a little bit. I knew who he was because I just knew new stand ups, but he didn't believe that I knew who he was because he was just a guy who was on Letterman every once in a while and just doing the stand up circuit. But I started talking to him about comedy and I realized, hey, if this is a gig where you can stagger out of your house at noon with an erection, read the paper cover to cover and then go wrench on your bike while you yell at your manager until four in the afternoon and then head in for a nap. Meanwhile, I'm knee deep and stucco and I got pool water flying out of my ass.
59:26
Caller
Making 10 bucks an hour.
59:27
Caller
Ten bucks!
59:30
Adam
Seven bucks an hour. This is what I got to get into. And like that, 11 years later, pow!
59:37
Caller
You got that hot rod beamer out there.
59:40
Adam
That's right.
59:41
Caller
Juggies falling off you.
59:42
Adam
Party home in Sherman Oaks and I'm literally a millionaire. Thank you, Jay.
59:48
Caller
Art, pick a call.
59:50
Adam
You're picking calls tonight.
59:52
Caller
I'm not going to talk to Cherry.
59:53
Adam
Because her name is Cherry.
59:55
Caller
Where's Cherry?
59:55
Adam
Well, there would be new ones if we went through some old ones.
59:58
Caller
Where's Cherry? Where's Cherry?
1:00:00
Adam
The one that's lit up. The one that's lit up.
1:00:02
Caller
Oh, this one here.
1:00:03
Drew
Cherry?
1:00:04
Everclear
Hello?
1:00:05
Caller
Hi, Cherry.
1:00:05
Caller
Hi, I just want to say hi to Everclear.
1:00:07
Everclear
I mean, I absolutely love you guys and my boyfriend does too.
1:00:11
Caller
Thank you.
1:00:11
Everclear
I think, Art, you're like, I've written like so many term papers about you. Like, you're one of my only like role models in life.
1:00:18
Drew
Term papers?
1:00:19
Caller
You've written term papers about me? Yeah.
1:00:21
Drew
Art, that is freaky.
1:00:23
Adam
You know you've arrived.
1:00:26
Caller
How's your grades on them?
1:00:28
Everclear
Actually, yeah, I've gotten A's.
1:00:30
Drew
What were the topics of the term papers?
1:00:32
Everclear
Well, they've been like, who's your like biggest influence? And I've been listening to you guys since like World of Noise. Long time.
1:00:39
Caller
How old are you?
1:00:40
Adam
Just 16.
1:00:41
Everclear
Yep.
1:00:41
Caller
Wow.
1:00:42
Everclear
My brother, you can thank him for that.
1:00:43
Caller
Okay, very cool.
1:00:45
Everclear
Yeah.
1:00:45
Adam
So what's your question today?
1:00:47
Everclear
Well, basically, my parents smoke weed like a whole lot, like every day a couple of times. And it like it really gets to me because they've spent a lot of like money like meant for me and my brother for college and stuff on it. And it's like they're really they're secretive about it, too. Like, I don't think they know that we know.
1:01:04
Drew
But you got to call them out.
1:01:06
Adam
How do you know they're spending your college money on weed?
1:01:09
Everclear
Well, because they used to tell us how they had some for us. And some of it's weed, some of it's just stupid stuff we don't need.
1:01:15
Adam
I'm like, that must have been a pleasant conversation. Hey, we smoked your tuition. Hand me the Cheetos. Yeah, that's all right. Make it tougher.
1:01:24
Everclear
Well, like, they don't know that we know.
1:01:26
Drew
You got to call them out. If they don't have any consequences from what they're doing, they ain't never going to stop.
1:01:30
Adam
This is both your parents' though.
1:01:32
Everclear
Yeah.
1:01:32
Adam
You know, the good news is, is you hate pot now, right?
1:01:36
Everclear
Yeah. Well, plus, I think, is it possible to be allergic to pot? Like whenever I'm around it or I've tried to be one.
1:01:42
Adam
Well, you can if you really hate your parents.
1:01:44
Caller
It could be psychosomatic. Yeah.
1:01:46
Everclear
Well, before I even found out that they did it, I mean, I got headaches being around it.
1:01:50
Adam
Now, are they smoking in the house and doing it sort of freely?
1:01:54
Everclear
Like, well, they try to mask it with candles and potpourri.
1:01:56
Drew
You have got to call them out on this.
1:01:57
Everclear
Our friends always come over and they're like, oh my God, your house smells like it.
1:02:01
Caller
You got to call them out.
1:02:02
Caller
Does your brother smoke pot?
1:02:04
Everclear
Not anymore.
1:02:05
Caller
How old is he?
1:02:06
Everclear
He's about 18. Yeah, he's out of the house.
1:02:10
Drew
I suspect people don't, not anymore, pot if they're really into it.
1:02:13
Everclear
Well, he does it occasionally, but he seriously doesn't do it anymore.
1:02:16
Caller
He can't afford to.
1:02:17
Everclear
He's trying to go to school full time and go to college.
1:02:20
Caller
All right.
1:02:22
Adam
You know, so you have hippie parents, right?
1:02:24
Everclear
But, well, her teachers.
1:02:26
Adam
What do they do?
1:02:27
Everclear
Their teachers.
1:02:27
Adam
Yeah, there you go. Wonderful. Do you go to public school or private?
1:02:31
Caller
Please tell me private school.
1:02:32
Everclear
Public.
1:02:32
Adam
Oh, but you go to private school, right?
1:02:35
Everclear
Yeah, I go to public.
1:02:36
Adam
And they let you get away with those art, everclear bios once a semester?
1:02:42
Everclear
Yeah, I write for the local paper and stuff. I'm a pretty good writer.
1:02:44
Drew
She sounds smart.
1:02:46
Caller
Tell Adam to shut the hell up. That's what I got to say.
1:02:49
Everclear
No, I think, I mean, you can ask all my friends. I, like, think you're just great just because you do so much good stuff more than a lot of.
1:02:56
Caller
Well, that's very flattering. We're all flattered by that.
1:02:59
Everclear
Yeah, I'm just glad for the reason why I got into music.
1:03:01
Caller
But you know what, exactly what Drew is saying, you've got to call him on it and you've got to call him on it in front of other people like your brother. And don't you agree, Drew?
1:03:10
Drew
Yeah, just don't let them out. Don't let them slip away.
1:03:14
Everclear
They're like, they're like really nice when they're on it. But then when they're off, they're always yelling at me.
1:03:18
Drew
Well, guess what? That's also part of the-
1:03:20
Caller
Catch them when they're high.
1:03:22
Drew
But they're going to start getting irritable and depressed all the time. That's part of the syndrome.
1:03:26
Caller
Well, they've probably been smoking for years and years.
1:03:28
Drew
Well, but it starts to slip. Eventually, it starts to slip. The bottom falls out.
1:03:32
Caller
You're telling me?
1:03:32
Adam
Yeah. Anne?
1:03:34
Caller
What are you telling?
1:03:35
Adam
Anne, you're 22. Yeah. You're talking art about drugs?
1:03:39
Caller
Huh?
1:03:39
Adam
Please, how dare you?
1:03:41
Caller
How dare you?
1:03:42
Adam
How dare you tell art about drugs?
1:03:44
Caller
What's up, Anne?
1:03:46
Everclear
Hey, yeah. I have a question for Art Alexakis. It's about the lyric in the song you just played that says, I get all sticky inside and I close my eyes and I open up wide. I found that interesting. It sounds kind of like a gender-bending sort of fantasy there.
1:04:04
Caller
I was wondering if you could explain that.
1:04:06
Caller
Man, you know, I hear all sorts of crazy things that people read into our lyrics, but you nailed it! Actually, no, well, I'm just curious. How do you come to that? Show me. Take me on the road. Well, um, I just close my eyes and I get all sticky inside.
1:04:26
Everclear
I get all sticky inside and I...
1:04:28
Caller
Are you talking about bodily fluids, sir?
1:04:31
Everclear
Yeah, I think you can tell where I'm going with that. I was just curious.
1:04:34
Caller
You know, the weird thing is, he always sings, Yummy, yummy, yummy.
1:04:37
Caller
I got love in my doing on the two of us.
1:04:39
Caller
It's really weird.
1:04:40
Caller
It freaks me out.
1:04:41
Caller
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, but at least I'm not singing like, like, you know, there's, there's no music.
1:04:49
Caller
No, no, no, that's something totally different.
1:04:51
Caller
No, it's not. It's sick. When you say, it would be a drum playing.
1:04:56
Caller
You're the one that's opening up wide and you're all sticky inside.
1:04:58
Caller
Adam, you play drums on that.
1:05:00
Drew
Look at this.
1:05:01
It's a whole conflict.
1:05:03
Caller
Yeah, thanks, Ann. You just broke the band up.
1:05:06
Drew
Been together too long.
1:05:07
No, no, no. I didn't know.
1:05:08
Caller
Listen, let me tell you, it has nothing to do with that. I get all sticky inside. The song is very self-effacing. It's just about thinking about, the song basically is just talking about keeping an even keel, a balance when things are bad and when things are good. Growing up the way I did, I'm much more used to things being bad. I'm much more used to when people tell me I suck. When people started telling me and telling us that we were cool about four or five years ago, last thing I wanted to do was to believe them and it kind of puts you on this roller coaster ride and when it all goes wrong again is basically having a sense of humor about yourself and the world around you and being able to keep on an even keel.
1:05:57
Drew
Evil keel.
1:05:58
Caller
Yeah, evil keel. Evil keneel. Well, things go up and down and well you can and you can just keep, you know, keep kind of the same. And basically that line I get all sticky inside is like just that warm fuzzy sticky feeling when things feel good and sticky inside.
1:06:19
Drew
But isn't that one of the interesting important things about poetry and lyrics is that you can evoke all sorts of different images and experiences.
1:06:27
Caller
Hey, if it's a sexual, gender-bending thing for you, man, live it up. Let your freak vibe fly.
1:06:33
Adam
All right, Ann.
1:06:34
Everclear
I, okay.
1:06:35
Adam
That's enough, how do you know?
1:06:37
Caller
Bye, Ann.
1:06:38
Everclear
Okay, bye.
1:06:38
Caller
He's pushing the button.
1:06:40
Adam
All right. Let's talk to Zoe. That sounds good.
1:06:44
Caller
Yeah. I want to name a daughter, Zoe.
1:06:45
Adam
That's a good name. Is 28?
1:06:48
Caller
Yeah. What's that?
1:06:49
Adam
You still have your hymen at 28?
1:06:51
I have the hymen of steel. And so I have this belt. I think that I'm still a virgin, but see, I say that I have the hymen of steel because like a few years ago, I tried to have sex and it just wouldn't break the barrier.
1:07:08
Adam
You're 28?
1:07:10
Caller
Yeah.
1:07:11
Drew
There is such a thing that sometimes the hymen has to be surgically open.
1:07:14
Caller
Yeah. Put a little MLA on that.
1:07:16
Caller
Yeah.
1:07:17
Drew
But more commonly than not, it's vaginismus or spasm of the vagina that causes it unable to be penetrated.
1:07:27
Adam
28 and still with the hymen in there.
1:07:29
Caller
Yeah.
1:07:30
Adam
We'll see. Send her out a windbreaker, Drew. So that's pretty good.
1:07:34
Caller
I was wondering if Adam could break it and I was also wondering if-
1:07:36
Adam
If I gotta run and start, yeah. I gotta dork like a can opener. Oh yeah? Yeah. I've used it to open beans like when I'm camping.
1:07:45
Caller
I'll be your can of tuna, baby.
1:07:51
Caller
I call shenanigans.
1:07:52
Adam
You go with the tuna, huh?
1:07:54
Caller
I call shenanigans on this one.
1:07:55
Adam
Gonna go in with the corn, huh?
1:07:56
Caller
You go with the tuna.
1:07:58
Caller
You called me a little nutty, so.
1:08:00
Adam
Yeah. I've now upgraded you to medium nutty.
1:08:04
Drew
I remember this voice.
1:08:05
Adam
Yeah, I do. Zoe, why is it that you're a virgin at the ripe old age of 28?
1:08:11
Caller
I'm very picky, but I mean, I tried to lose it like when I was 20, I think four. I was sick of being a virgin. And so I consider myself a virgin still, but I have a friend who says since I've had it in me that I'm not.
1:08:29
Caller
That would be my call.
1:08:30
Drew
Me too.
1:08:31
Caller
And I'm still a virgin?
1:08:32
Caller
No, no, no.
1:08:33
Adam
You had a penis in you.
1:08:34
Drew
That's it.
1:08:35
Adam
Yeah, because listen, if you had a hymen like a truck inner tube, and a guy couldn't get through it, and you were with ten guys, you wouldn't be a virgin. You'd be a trampoline. You'd be a penis trampoline.
1:08:53
Drew
You know, penises on trampolines, new bit for the mansion.
1:08:55
Caller
Oh, God, write it down.
1:08:57
Adam
Zoe?
1:08:58
Caller
Yeah.
1:08:59
Adam
So why are you nutty? What's up with you?
1:09:03
Caller
God, you know, I just don't know. When when I called last time, what was your question last time? I called to say that I'm a fag hag and I'm in love with gay men. And then, basically I just want to get on the radio.
1:09:19
Caller
Are you a drama student? Yes, you do. You go to acting workshops, don't you?
1:09:25
Caller
Yeah, well, yeah.
1:09:26
Caller
You have, haven't you?
1:09:27
Caller
I do theater. I'm a theater major.
1:09:30
Caller
Yeah, but I could tell that one.
1:09:31
Adam
That's trouble.
1:09:33
Caller
You're in trouble.
1:09:34
Adam
Daddy didn't pay enough attention growing up. Now we all have to suffer.
1:09:38
Caller
Yeah.
1:09:38
Adam
Is that it? Exactly. That's how it is.
1:09:41
Caller
Hey, Zoe, can I give you my opinion? This is Art. Since you want to be on the radio so bad, actually, I don't even have to ask you. Do I have to ask her to give my opinion? No. No, I can just go. Okay, basically, have you ever-
1:09:55
Caller
Ever, Claire Guy?
1:09:56
Caller
Yeah, yeah, that's me. Have you ever performed oral sex on a man?
1:09:59
Caller
Yes.
1:09:59
Caller
You're not a virgin.
1:10:01
Caller
Because I have performed on a man?
1:10:03
Caller
You've had sex. If you've had sex, that's my, this is my opinion.
1:10:07
Adam
I'm with you on that.
1:10:09
Caller
When you put another person's sexual organ on-
1:10:12
Drew
Adam, Adam actually had a very, a medium stroke of genius on this one.
1:10:15
Caller
He thinks-
1:10:16
Drew
He thinks there ought to be planes. Medium. That there ought to be various planes that once broken, we can even have degrees of virginity or something, but he thinks there are the planes.
1:10:25
Adam
The plane, there is a plane that is, you know, between your lips that once broken by a penis.
1:10:30
Caller
It's like the football and the touchdown.
1:10:33
Drew
The end zone, the end zone.
1:10:35
Adam
Speaking of the end zone, you ain't no virgin with that either. This is the other plane, the thumb and forefinger plane. That's its own. There's many planes. Yes, the end zone we talked about. Don't even get me going on the ears. That's a whole...
1:10:50
Drew
Those planes?
1:10:51
Caller
No.
1:10:51
Adam
The point is once those planes are being broken, that's no longer what we call a virgin. Just because technically you own a hymen does not mean you're still a virgin.
1:11:03
Caller
I met a girl once who was 16, 17 years old, had never had vaginal sex, but she had been giving blowjobs from the time she was 12. Supposedly, I didn't know from experience, but supposedly she gave a blowjob like a porn star and she had anal sex, but she considered herself a virgin.
1:11:23
Adam
Right.
1:11:23
Drew
We had that a lot on this show. People were preserving their virginity, but go ahead and have anal sex. People lost track of the fact that virginity was meant to mean chastity, not some technicality at all.
1:11:34
Caller
It's a technical game.
1:11:35
Drew
Yeah, it's not a technicality, it's chastity.
1:11:37
Adam
Hey, man, hey, what do you want to recount? I'm sure their husband's going to be very excited to hear that news. It's like, I'm a virgin. Oh, that's great. I've been anally raped. More than I can count. Put your penis in there, it's going to be like trying to get that last bit of yogurt out of the peanut butter, out of the yogurt container.
1:11:57
Caller
Come and get it, Bill.
1:11:59
Adam
The triangle. We're basically going to be playing the triangle.
1:12:02
Caller
Like waving a wand in a cave.
1:12:05
Adam
That's right. You're conducting bats. All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll talk to Nicky, right? Art's picking the calls tonight. Nicky's the one with the arrow.
1:12:17
Caller
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1:12:19
Adam
Maybe you need to get closer to that screen, Art.
1:12:21
Caller
We need to talk about that.
1:12:22
Adam
All right. It wants to know if it's normal for an uncircumcised penis to smell really, really bad after this.
1:12:29
Caller
Hello.
1:13:00
Adam
Where are we going, guys? Yeah, I'm not used to that music. It caught me off guard. Alright. Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Drew over there. Greg and Craig are both here from Everclear. Art is, what is he, in the little boy's room?
1:13:15
Drew
He's out listening to phone messages.
1:13:17
Adam
I see. Art is a big star. He'll roll in here soon. He picked the next call, but now he's not around to enjoy it. Shall we, well, let's talk to Nicky.
1:13:26
Caller
Yeah, let's move on.
1:13:28
Adam
Nicky?
1:13:29
Everclear
Yeah?
1:13:30
Adam
Sixteen? You, does your boyfriend have an uncircumcised penis?
1:13:34
Caller
Well, no, like I was down at my friend's house and there's this really cute guy there. And so he's like, you want to give me head?
1:13:42
Everclear
I was like, okay, sure. And so-
1:13:45
Drew
That's how it's done these days.
1:13:46
Caller
That's how it goes, right?
1:13:46
Drew
That's how it goes, right?
1:13:47
Caller
Hey, how's it going?
1:13:48
Drew
You want to give me head?
1:13:49
Adam
Well, you know, to be fair to him, most the guys who are talked about on the show just start pushing the girls' head down toward their groin. They don't even ask or present it that way. But that's nice.
1:14:00
Caller
It wasn't like that when I was a kid.
1:14:02
Adam
It really wasn't.
1:14:03
Caller
The guys have got it easier now.
1:14:04
Adam
Yeah, my line was, may I please buy some head? There was none of this. You want to give me head? I would like to purchase some head, ma'am. Would that be acceptable?
1:14:14
Drew
You said that to me. Wouldn't you just expect to go right cross?
1:14:18
Adam
Yeah. Hey, how about giving me some head? Yeah, even if you had been dating the chick for a year, you'd expect to get swatted for that. This is in the 50s when we were in high school. Pulled up in a Stutz bear cat, wearing my raccoon coat. All right, so anyway, you gave him a BJ?
1:14:35
Caller
Okay, no. So like we went in the other room and it was like dark and like I couldn't see that. It was like unsurcrimphized, you know? And so like I went down there, you have to breathe out of your nose and you give head.
1:14:44
Adam
Oh, who are you talking to? I'm about to sprout gills in the side of my neck, you know, from all the BJs I give my deviated septum.
1:14:55
Caller
Sure. Okay. And so like I started breathing and it smelled so bad. And I was like, I have to stop. I'm sorry. Dick smells.
1:15:02
Drew
Oh, nice. Wow.
1:15:04
Adam
Touche.
1:15:06
Caller
I don't know. Does that mean like he has like a disease or something?
1:15:09
Drew
No, doesn't necessarily. And some guys, if they don't are meticulous with the hygiene, they can get a little bacterial growth down there. And some guys just got the funk.
1:15:19
Adam
He could just have the funk, but the uncircumcised penis probably added to the funk that he just got.
1:15:26
Caller
So it doesn't, it doesn't have to, though.
1:15:29
Drew
It doesn't mean anything.
1:15:30
Adam
He can work on it a little bit, but that's all right, Nick. You learn a very valuable lesson about blowing strangers. That should be made to an after school session.
1:15:38
Caller
Is this a stranger, not a special friend?
1:15:40
Caller
No, I just went down to my friend's house and he was there and I thought he was really cute.
1:15:43
Caller
So you gave him a blow job?
1:15:44
Everclear
I thought he was really cute too.
1:15:45
Caller
And so I was like, okay, sure.
1:15:48
Caller
All right.
1:15:49
Caller
He just asked her out, you know, just like.
1:15:51
Caller
And you were 16?
1:15:52
Everclear
Uh-huh.
1:15:53
Caller
Good. I got eight years for this.
1:15:56
Adam
Slow down. All right.
1:15:58
Everclear
All right, thanks.
1:15:59
Adam
All right.
1:16:00
Caller
Bye.
1:16:00
Adam
All right. I want we hear a song from Everclear. Let Art and Drew commiserate about their young daughters and what life is going to be like for them in North America when they start hitting puberty. Oh, imagine on that one of yours, too, Drew.
1:16:17
Caller
That's when I'm moving?
1:16:18
Adam
Yeah, you got to move. Where are you going, though? It's all over now.
1:16:21
Drew
South Africa.
1:16:22
Adam
Oh, really? Go there. Just get some land. Put a big fence around it. Let her graze. Not let her. Set her free. You know what I mean? Homeschooling.
1:16:34
Caller
I can't wait till you become a parent.
1:16:36
Adam
Oh, my God.
1:16:36
Caller
It's going to happen someday because you're going to get stupid and you're going to get some girl pregnant.
1:16:42
Adam
Yeah.
1:16:42
Caller
And get married or probably. Yeah.
1:16:44
Adam
Listen, I'll tell you.
1:16:45
Caller
You know what?
1:16:46
Adam
I won't break out.
1:16:47
Caller
You're not going to be funny anymore.
1:16:50
Drew
Everything will be.
1:16:51
Caller
You're not going to lose that edge. You're going to gain about 40 pounds. It's going to go all to your ass.
1:16:57
Adam
That's right. That's my life.
1:16:58
Caller
That's it, dude.
1:17:00
Adam
Thank you. All right. I got an eye on in that bag.
1:17:02
Drew
I got gold down in that damn bag.
1:17:04
Adam
What is in there? We've been eating.
1:17:06
Drew
I think we're around in there.
1:17:07
Adam
Are you asking me now what's moving? Oh, my God. There's some.
1:17:12
Caller
You just ate that whole bag of nuts.
1:17:13
Adam
There's a bug in there. Oh, wait a minute. There's more than one. Oh, come on, buddy. Don't spit on the floor. Holy Christ. I mean, now on top of the fat ass, I'm going to have moss growing in my belly.
1:17:31
Caller
In your belly, if you're lucky.
1:17:33
Adam
Jesus Christ. That ain't right.
1:17:34
Caller
You can't get popcorn.
1:17:35
Adam
Oh, all right, Drew. Hold on. No, don't throw this away.
1:17:39
Caller
Bag it.
1:17:40
Adam
That's exhibit A. I'll get some money out of this goddamn Westwood One if it's the last thing I do. Drew's got a sack of moss he's been feeding me for the last day.
1:17:48
Caller
Oh, yeah.
1:17:48
Caller
Those aren't little bugs. Those are big bugs.
1:17:50
Drew
I just ate them.
1:17:51
Adam
Yeah.
1:17:51
Drew
What are you talking about? I ate those damn things.
1:17:53
Caller
Man, that looks like moth rock. Yeah.
1:17:55
Adam
I'm going to have one more nut just to be... How do you know you've eaten worse, Drew?
1:18:01
Drew
Look at this. Come look at this.
1:18:03
Adam
Drew bought a sack of moss from the vending machine.
1:18:06
Caller
We need help here.
1:18:08
Adam
And don't go for that crap.
1:18:10
Drew
All right.
1:18:11
Caller
All right.
1:18:11
Adam
Hey, Drew, you want to go vomit or...
1:18:13
Drew
Yeah, I do.
1:18:14
Adam
Okay, go vomit. Hey, Anderson, mic him up. This is good.
1:18:18
Caller
This is good radio.
1:18:24
Adam
Get it up, Drew. Get it up.
1:18:25
Caller
All right.
1:18:26
Adam
Listen, maybe I shouldn't... Maybe should I stop eating? You know you got a problem when you're still looking at those peanuts going, listen, I don't see any moths on those.
1:18:33
Caller
You know what? All right. Because we're friends.
1:18:36
Adam
Oh, thank you.
1:18:36
Caller
I have a pretzel.
1:18:37
Adam
Art's got Weebles in his pretzels.
1:18:39
Caller
I'm going to eat those now. All right.
1:18:42
Adam
We're going to take ourselves a little break. Not a break. We're actually going to hear a song from Everclear. Drew, Anne, call the Orkin guy in. Have the vending machines. Hey, Drew, why don't you go light one of those foggers off in the vending machine?
1:19:00
Drew
I'm going to vomit.
1:19:01
Adam
Go vomit. Go vomit.
1:19:03
Drew
On the vending machine.
1:19:04
Adam
Go vomit on the vending machine. Show your defiance. Rise up against the man by vomiting on the vending machine. All right. We're going to hear something from Everclear. Anderson, where are you? In there?
1:19:15
Caller
What in there? What critic? Yeah, I don't want to look at it.
1:19:18
Adam
This one is called the AM radio. I want to take a look. J Los Angeles.
1:19:23
Portions of the day's programming are reproduced by means of electrical transcriptions or tape recordings.
1:23:08
Adam
You are 10Q. Hey, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. There's Dr. Drew over there, a little AM radio from Everclear. Drew, you all right there? Drew's not feeling too good.
1:23:24
Drew
You're looking a little green. Who do I take this up with?
1:23:27
Adam
He's going to crap moth right when he gets home. You don't have moths in your house?
1:23:33
Drew
Not that kind.
1:23:35
Adam
Well, you have yummy edibles.
1:23:36
Drew
No, we have moth moths.
1:23:38
Adam
You have moths that fly around.
1:23:39
Drew
Butterfly moths.
1:23:39
Adam
You don't have those food moths?
1:23:41
Caller
No.
1:23:41
Adam
I swear to Christ, I have those food moths in my house and I cannot get rid of them and I'm actually angry at them.
1:23:46
Caller
That healthy?
1:23:47
Drew
I feel your pain.
1:23:48
Adam
Yeah, well, you probably ate some of the present.
1:23:50
Caller
You'll feel it much later.
1:23:51
Adam
Yeah, you're fine, Drew.
1:23:53
Caller
Hey, in all fairness to the company though, it said eat by August 1st on it.
1:23:57
Adam
Yeah.
1:23:57
Caller
It's November 29th.
1:23:58
Caller
That's before the larvae hatched into moths.
1:23:59
Drew
Guess what? That's the point. We're pissed off at the vending people.
1:24:04
Adam
Yeah. Shouldn't you expect that what comes out of the vending machine is something you can eat that day?
1:24:08
Drew
Current, enough to date.
1:24:09
Adam
You don't have to build a time machine and go back six months to eat it?
1:24:13
Caller
No, it's not like if you're going to buy something out of the snack box, it's not like you're going to sit there and look at the dates and the ingredients.
1:24:21
Adam
Right. You trust it. Yeah. All right.
1:24:23
Drew
We've been asking, begging for popcorn. Just popcorn.
1:24:26
Adam
They used to have popcorn in there.
1:24:27
Caller
They used to have popcorn. Those were the days.
1:24:30
Drew
Now, we get moth-infested nuts and raisins.
1:24:35
Caller
Well, it sounds like something to call it.
1:24:37
Adam
Yeah. To be fair, there's a big sticker on the side of the machine that says, Now with moth-infested nuts. It's probably something you should have heated, Drew.
1:24:46
Caller
Can we do this one? Are we in a call now?
1:24:48
Drew
No.
1:24:49
Caller
We're out of this. Can we do this one now?
1:24:50
Drew
We're going to commercial now.
1:24:52
Adam
Let's just say real hi to Joseph. Real hi. I'm real fast. We'll say hi.
1:24:56
Caller
Hey, Joseph.
1:24:57
Caller
Hey, how's it going, guys?
1:24:58
Caller
What are you talking about?
1:25:00
Caller
I heard on the radio that...
1:25:01
Caller
On what radio station?
1:25:04
Caller
Well, here in Albuquerque.
1:25:05
Drew
That what?
1:25:07
Caller
The beginning of Wonderful sounds exactly like one of Savage Garden's songs, and they actually played the beginning of both, one after the other, and I must say, they sounded almost exactly the same, except...
1:25:18
Caller
Can I ask you a question? I know this sounds stupid. I've seen the name, but I have no idea who they are. Who's Savage Garden?
1:25:26
Caller
They're an Australian.
1:25:27
Adam
They are a hot, hot couple of gay guys who sing about loving women, ironically.
1:25:33
Caller
Really?
1:25:34
Adam
Yeah.
1:25:35
Caller
I would have no idea. No, well, to be honest with you, I never heard that song, so...
1:25:40
Caller
Oh, okay. I was just curious about it.
1:25:42
Caller
No.
1:25:43
Adam
Do we have some Savage Garden? Anderson, go out to your car and get your Savage Garden. Bring it in here.
1:25:49
Caller
Maybe Anderson has the Savage Garden retrospective out there or something.
1:25:53
Adam
Pass the Savage Garden back in the garden.
1:25:56
Caller
When did the Savage Garden record come out?
1:25:58
Caller
Oh, I don't know. I'm not even sure.
1:26:01
Caller
I don't even remember what the song is. So basically, they are alluding to the fact that we're ripping off Savage Garden?
1:26:12
Caller
Well, I guess.
1:26:13
Caller
Is it possible that maybe Savage, since we sell, we're really big in Australia, we sell more records per capita there than we do here? Really? Maybe it's possible that...
1:26:25
Adam
Well, listen, let me... We got to go to break, but let me just say this.
1:26:28
Caller
I'm just curious. I mean, I don't know.
1:26:30
Adam
Artistically, these things are going to happen. I tell jokes all the time that I hear other places, and I think that I made them up, and whoever it is said it half the time thinks they made it up, and it's bound to happen. I mean, the millions and millions of songs that are cranked out, if one portion of one song sounds vaguely like another portion of another song, does that mean there's foul play at work?
1:26:54
Caller
No, I'm intrigued. I'd like to hear it, and I'd like to hear when it came out, because there's been other songs that have come out by bands in this country.
1:27:03
Adam
Well, Art wrote that song in high school, which is what people know. No.
1:27:06
Caller
I wrote it when most of, when this guy was probably in high school last year.
1:27:10
Adam
All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. If anyone has a Savage Garden CD around here, they can bring it in. Drew, you sure you don't want to go vomit? I do want to go vomit. Okay, go vomit. We'll be back. Hey, Loveline, everybody, I'm Adam Carolla, and that is the moth eating Dr. Drew. You got a problem with moths at your house, you bring Drew over. Forget about the moth balls, the poisons, the kids can get into that. He'll eat them right up. Send the moth doctor over. He'll suck that closet dry. We all know the heartache of pulling out a beautiful wool sweater that we have worn since last winter, only to see that there's holes been eaten in it for moths. Those days are gone. Dr. Drew will come to your home and rid it of moths by eating every last one of them. And the eggs and larvae.
1:28:34
Drew
And the webs.
1:28:35
Adam
And the weird webby things that I have at my house. Bad, bad times. Alright.
1:28:42
Drew
Let's go.
1:28:43
Caller
You pick it, Greg. Come on, Greg.
1:28:45
Caller
Number three.
1:28:47
Adam
We're going to talk to Michael. Michael is eighteen.
1:28:51
Caller
What's up?
1:28:55
Caller
About eight years ago, I think I was around ten. I can't really remember. I had very sexual relations with my younger sister.
1:29:10
Adam
Is this your biological sister?
1:29:12
Caller
Yeah.
1:29:13
Caller
How old were you?
1:29:15
Caller
I think I was around ten years old.
1:29:16
Caller
How old was she?
1:29:19
Caller
She might have been around six.
1:29:22
Drew
Which one of you? Yeah, perfectly normal.
1:29:23
Adam
Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.
1:29:25
Drew
Which one of you had been sexually abused prior to that?
1:29:28
Caller
Neither.
1:29:29
Drew
No, come on.
1:29:29
Adam
Really?
1:29:30
Caller
Completely neither.
1:29:31
Adam
And how long did this go on?
1:29:36
Caller
Not too long, but I think it happened on quite a couple of occasions.
1:29:41
Adam
Yeah? I mean like over ten?
1:29:44
Caller
No. Can't know. It's gotta be under.
1:29:47
Drew
And you actually had intercourse?
1:29:51
Caller
Yeah, I think so.
1:29:52
Drew
How did you learn what intercourse was?
1:29:54
Adam
You can figure it out in ten.
1:29:57
Caller
I don't know. I definitely wasn't educated.
1:30:00
Adam
All right. Are your parents drug abusers or alcoholics? Is the family broken up?
1:30:06
Caller
Yeah, but this was before that all happened.
1:30:09
Drew
All right. Well, something was going on before.
1:30:12
Adam
Well, let's just take it from here. So now your sister is what, 15?
1:30:18
Caller
Now she's 14 going on 15.
1:30:20
Adam
Right. How's she doing with her life?
1:30:25
Caller
She's good. She's... I don't know. I worry about her. She chases boys, but nothing too bad.
1:30:33
Adam
How are you doing with your life?
1:30:36
Caller
I'm all right.
1:30:37
Adam
Have you ever spoken to her about this?
1:30:39
Caller
No, not since. I mean, it happened a long time ago.
1:30:44
Drew
Do you have relationships? Do you have girlfriends?
1:30:46
Caller
No. No, I don't know how to deal with girls at all.
1:30:52
Drew
Are you into girls?
1:30:53
Caller
Oh, totally.
1:30:55
Adam
Really?
1:30:55
Caller
Very much so.
1:30:56
Adam
But you're a little freaked out?
1:30:58
Caller
Yeah. I don't know how to approach.
1:31:02
Adam
He's 18. All right. Hey, Michael?
1:31:05
Caller
Yeah.
1:31:05
Adam
What do you guys think? Do you think he should talk to his sister? Or is that too freaky for her and freaky for him? And I mean, obviously, they both know what went on.
1:31:14
Caller
Some sort of joint counseling is in there.
1:31:16
Caller
Yeah. I don't even know if it needs to go there. Have you been in any counseling for this, Michael? No.
1:31:22
Drew
You should.
1:31:23
Caller
Man, that's your first.
1:31:24
Drew
Yeah. Yeah. You should be.
1:31:25
Caller
Get into it. Talk to somebody about it. See if you need to confront your sister about it. Maybe you just need to confront everything in you. Maybe there was something that happened before, which seems likely to drew into myself that there was some sort of abuse.
1:31:38
Drew
There had to have been.
1:31:39
Caller
Because, man, how else would you know to do it? It's not an instinctive thing that you know at 10 years old.
1:31:45
Adam
Yeah.
1:31:45
Caller
You know, they show that crap in the movies. It doesn't work like that.
1:31:49
Drew
Yeah, you don't have the biological mechanisms in place to cause you to move in that direction.
1:31:54
Adam
Yeah. You can figure that out. I knew that when I was that age.
1:31:57
Caller
I was so young that my brother had to explain that.
1:31:59
Adam
I was smoking. I was driving.
1:32:01
Drew
Did your brother do anything weird to you?
1:32:02
Caller
Oh, no. No. He knew about it. He caught me with her one time. And I was totally confused that he had to explain to me that she couldn't have a baby. But I knew that it had sex.
1:32:15
Adam
Let me tell you something, Michael. If I caught my younger brother banging my sister, he would have been my slave. Well into my 40s. I'd be calling him now at 36. Bob, come over to the house. Empty the garbage. Clean out the sinks. Get the moss out of the goddamn cereal. Get the moss out of my ass, would you? Thank you.
1:32:36
Caller
He's older and bigger than me. I can't work him at all.
1:32:39
Drew
Yeah, but he'd be working you, dude. Someone had done something to you to cause you to move in that direction. That's it for sure.
1:32:48
Adam
Hey Michael, you gotta talk to someone about this. Don't freak yourself out. You were 10. You were a kid. I know you're the male and she was younger and all that kind of stuff. You feel like a bad guy, but you know what? It's done. Now let's work on healing it. Yeah.
1:33:03
Caller
I mean you're 18 years old. It seems like this huge thing to you. It's something that if you deal with now, you can just put it behind you.
1:33:12
Adam
All right. Let's move on. Have a fruitful life, perhaps date your aunt or your mom, and really just move on with things.
1:33:19
Drew
What song was it written about you?
1:33:20
Adam
The Bobby Goldsboro song was Honey by the way. And honey, I love you.
1:33:27
Caller
I had the 45, dude.
1:33:28
Adam
Oh, did you? Yeah, you rock, aren't you? We're going to take ourselves a little break. We'll be back.
1:33:34
Caller
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1:33:37
Caller
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Caller
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Caller
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Caller
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1:33:49
Adam
Holy moly. All right. That's it with Loveline. We're really sinking into some sort of dark, dark abyss here with the band and Drew and we're really getting a lot of morbid discussion here. I know I'm going to have more bad dreams about my family beating me with my scrotum now.
1:34:20
Caller
But we're having a good time.
1:34:22
Adam
We always have a good time with Everclear. All right, everyone, go out and get the new CD. I know you got the volume one. This is volume two, Songs for American Movie. Good time for bad attitude. Our good, good friends, Everclear. Thanks for coming out here, guys.
1:34:37
Caller
Thanks for having us.
1:34:38
Adam
We always appreciate it. Until next time, this is Adam Crawford. Dr. Drew is saying mahalo.
1:34:43
Caller
I'll be your can of tuna, baby.
1:34:46
Caller
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