Episode 1000754886944

1:09 Adam And the love between the two hosts is the love between the two hosts is the love between the two hosts is the love between the two hosts is the love between the two hosts is We have a special edition, addiction medicine specialist, and tonight the triumphant return of Pennywise. Of course, Fletcher, Jim, and Randy are all here from the band.

1:30 Drew It's really to prove once and for all just how low our self-esteem is.

1:33 Adam Land of the Free, name of the CD, out tomorrow. We'll hear stuff off of that new CD, tell you about dates and all that stuff. But yeah, let's air it all out now, because as you know, last time Pennywise was in here, we had a little debacle. The old Fletcher was here, and things got a little out of control. A little booze fueled mayhem took place here. Now was that about a year and a half ago? How long ago was that?

2:01 Pennywise I guess it was about two years ago.

2:04 Adam Was it two years?

2:05 Pennywise Yeah, something like that.

2:06 It seems like it.

2:08 Adam Oh, it was just a year ago for last year's Weenie Roast. Now it feels like only yesterday, I know it does for you, Drew, because you talk about it in therapy. Three times a week. So for you, basically, it's like when you talk to guys about Vietnam.

2:22 Drew Yeah, it just happened.

2:23 Adam They're still there. They start crying when they talk about it.

2:26 Pennywise I noticed that last time you guys were both behind the counter, and this time Dr. Drew is real close to the door. He's sitting on the other side of the desk.

2:34 Adam Drew took one of his loafers off and shoved it in the door, so it could not be latched this time. Now, if you're just a new affiliate, you weren't sure what we're talking about, we'll work it out for you. We won't trudge up a lot of bad memories or feelings. But Pennywise has always made memorable appearances here on Loveline. And last time, well the first time was what, seven years ago? What did you say it was about?

3:04 Pennywise We're not really good with numbers.

3:05 Adam I'd say about seven years ago, Fletcher wasn't feeling well, I guess. I wasn't in the studio then, but Fletcher had a few, oh, maybe a couple of pony kegs and four large pizzas, and proceeded to projectile vomit on not only Drew, but whoever else was in the studio. And then last year, Fletcher had a few beers, and sort of barricaded us in the studio, and talked about going to a place called Pooh Pooh City. But just, and I think Randy or Jim was asking, just as the show began, asking Drew, what's wrong with our self-esteem? And why would we have Pennywise back? And you know, I thought about this, but I thought, you know, if I was listening to Loveline, I'd want Pennywise back. And if I was in the studio with Pennywise, I wouldn't want Pennywise back. But if it's a show of hands kind of thing, you figure the audience has it, right?

4:01 Pennywise That's right, man. It's democracy.

4:03 Adam And we've been monitoring Fletcher, to some degree, on the months and days and weeks since he's been here last. And we've heard good things that he's been fairly sober.

4:15 Pennywise They're all lies.

4:16 Adam Fairly sober, right?

4:17 Pennywise Fairly sober, yeah. You know, pretty much off the hard stuff. 90% of the time.

4:22 Adam Right. I mean...

4:23 Pennywise I won't lie.

4:24 Adam Right. But fairly sober. And when Fletcher's sober, everything's good with Fletcher, right?

4:31 Pennywise Yeah. I'm sure that's why there's three security guards here tonight, instead of one, like last time. Well, and they don't actually look like security guards. They actually look like off-duty police officers.

4:42 Adam They're that, and they're some mafia goons.

4:45 Drew Look at some on-duty police officers.

4:47 Adam Yeah. All right. Well, let's not let the last time's episode eclipse Pennywise and the music that they're putting out today. Now, they will be seen, I should say, tomorrow when the new... Is the CD out tomorrow?

5:01 Yep.

5:01 Adam 19th, and that again is Land of the Free. Warped Tour is where you can find them all through the summer, or are you just doing a leg?

5:11 Pennywise We're doing...

5:14 We're doing just the coasts, we're not going to the middle of the country.

5:18 Adam Right. So...

5:19 Pennywise It's really hot back there right now.

5:21 Adam Yeah. And what happens after the Warped Tour for you guys?

5:26 Relax for a while and recover from all the things that Fletcher is going to do to us on the road, and then we're going to try it again. I don't know why we keep going on. You guys are all...

5:36 Pennywise You're all addicted.

5:37 Yeah.

5:37 Pennywise We're addicted to Fletcher. You all need to go into therapy and... Whatever.

5:41 Adam Yeah. Well, Drew, I'll tell you, and Drew, stop me if I'm wrong, but you're still having some post-traumatic trauma from the last time Pennywise was here. No?

5:51 Drew No, I'm not. You're fancy! I did for a month afterwards, but not...

5:54 Adam I didn't take it quite as hard because I guess I was abused more in high school or in the years I worked construction or something. I just sort of got used to that brand of justice being dealt out.

6:09 Pennywise I don't know if you ever figured out that I actually didn't know where you lived.

6:13 Drew You know I did.

6:14 Pennywise I made that up that my brother moved you.

6:17 Drew It was interesting.

6:18 Pennywise I made that up just to get you, you know, get your head in the right place for the show. And then I broke it out a little bit later that I was coming for you.

6:25 Adam Oh, I forgot about that part. You said that your brother moved Drew into his new pad and you were going to swing by and check up on him.

6:32 Pennywise Yeah, but I actually do not know where you live, so you are, you can leave that one to rest.

6:37 Adam All right, well, he's fine now and we'll bury the hatchet and get on to calls and playing music and all that good stuff with Pennywise. Ashton?

6:47 Yeah?

6:48 Adam Year 17?

6:49 Yep.

6:50 Adam What's up?

6:51 Well, I just want to say thank you so much, Dr. Drew and Adam for being and for doing the show because I absolutely love it. My first question is, well, actually my other question, I'll get right to the point. I've been dating my boyfriend for about three and a half months and we have sex and it's all right, but I ask him to go down on me and he won't and I go down on him and he likes it, but then I ask him to do anal and he won't. And so my question is, if I'm pretending to give him a B day or I am, and then I want to bite him really hard just to pay him back, just to dump him. I was wondering if there's anything that could go really wrong with him.

7:26 Adam With you biting his penis off?

7:29 Drew Depends if you have the penis sown back on again after, how much blood loss there is.

7:34 Adam You want him to do anal on you?

7:36 Drew No, Coral.

7:37 Adam Well, she said, I think she worked the anal in there too.

7:40 Pennywise And he's refusing.

7:42 He's like, he's just like crackle and I can't stand.

7:45 Adam But did you say anal or not?

7:48 Yes, I did.

7:49 Adam All right. So.

7:50 And he won't do anything to me except for like fingering me and this is a child's play.

7:56 Adam Right.

7:57 I like how you just jump right in.

7:59 Pennywise We know a couple of guys that we could hook you up with that you'd probably do a lot better with.

8:04 Sounds good.

8:05 Adam How old is this guy?

8:07 He's 18.

8:08 Adam And is he a virgin?

8:10 Oh, no. I mean, we have sex all the time, but it's not as fun.

8:14 Drew As what? As some of these other guys are more brutal guys.

8:17 Exactly.

8:18 Drew And so you need to be ruthless to this guy.

8:21 Well, I mean, he won't like...

8:22 Drew Yeah, why don't you just break up with him?

8:25 Well, that's what I want to do.

8:26 Adam Why just break up when you can bite the guy's balance off and then break up with him?

8:31 Drew Most breakups don't require a ceremonial detaching of the penis.

8:36 Adam Well, I'm going to use Drew's own logic on him. I'm saying once you bite the penis off, you don't have to break up. I mean, that probably says it all. There's no reason to have formal discussions on breaking up once the penis has been bitten off.

8:51 Yeah, well, I just want to get him back.

8:52 Drew Ashton, this is bizarre.

8:55 Adam You're not serious, are you? You really?

8:58 Yeah, I mean, I'm serious.

9:00 Adam Why won't he go down on you?

9:02 I don't know. There's nothing wrong with me. Other guys do it and they like it, and I like it a lot.

9:08 Drew Why don't you get away from this guy if it's not for you?

9:11 That's what I want to do, but I want to get him back.

9:13 Adam All right.

9:13 Pennywise What about the next guy? What about the next guy?

9:16 You have a bad reputation.

9:18 Adam Right.

9:18 I'm living in Australia actually, but I'm just here visiting.

9:21 Adam Oh, I see.

9:22 I'm going back next week.

9:23 Adam All right. See, that's what we got to toughen up.

9:25 Drew You want a souvenir penis to take with you?

9:27 Rock on.

9:29 Adam Why don't you do something to his car? Traditionally, I think that's the way you screw a guy over. When you break up with him, you key him, you slash his tires, you put some fecal matter on his hood. Right? Stick to the... Hey, Ashton, you may not be familiar with this because you're from Australia. The American custom is to do something to the guy's car. I've always said that your car is like a piece of you. You leave out on the street at night. You know, I mean, I don't know when it stops happening, but do you remember when a guy or girl's car was them? And I mean, it was great because you'd be driving around and you'd go, dude, that's Derrick's car. You go kick the crap out of the guy's car.

10:08 Pennywise It still happens.

10:09 Adam Oh, it still does? Yeah. Do something to his car. That's my angle. Daniel?

10:14 Yeah.

10:14 Adam You're 17?

10:15 Caller Hey.

10:16 Adam What's up?

10:18 I got a question for Pennywise.

10:20 Adam Here they are.

10:21 Pennywise Here we are.

10:22 Caller Yeah, that game Top Skater did the soundtrack for?

10:24 Yes.

10:26 Caller I heard that in order to get you guys to do it, they had to make a special one with Fletcher in it.

10:31 Pennywise Actually, what they did was they had a, if you look at the end, there's a band set up at the end, on the right-hand side of the thing, and they actually had us done up cartoon characters or whatever, the animated figures, and we were supposed to be playing a gig, and there was also, Jimmy came up with the idea every once in a while that I was supposed to run out and attack the skater that was going down.

10:55 Adam But, what a stretch.

10:56 Pennywise Yeah. I mean, with a bottle of Bacardi in my hand. But yeah, there's actually some animated portraits of us laying around somewhere in my office that are pretty damn funny. That's cool. Yeah. But we thought that was going a little too far. Now we wish we would have done it because it would have been pretty funny, but at the time it didn't seem like such a good idea.

11:15 Adam Did you guys skate?

11:16 Pennywise Yeah. We skate to the liquor store.

11:18 Adam That's it though. I mean, you can't do any half pipes or pools or anything like that.

11:22 Pennywise Sure we can, man.

11:23 Adam If you get to the liquor store first.

11:24 Pennywise We're not that old.

11:26 Adam All right, Daniel, you good?

11:27 Caller Yeah.

11:28 Adam All right, take care of yourself. Who, me or the band?

11:31 Caller Both.

11:32 Thank you.

11:33 Adam It's a diplomat.

11:34 Caller Thanks for throwing us in there with you.

11:35 Adam Stephanie?

11:37 Yeah.

11:37 Adam You're 16?

11:39 Caller Yeah.

11:39 Adam You're on with Pennywise.

11:40 Hi.

11:41 Caller Hi, Adam.

11:41 I love you.

11:43 Adam Thanks.

11:44 And that's you. You're awesome.

11:46 Drew Stephanie. What's up?

11:48 Caller What's going on?

11:50 Who's this?

11:51 Adam Go ahead, goofball.

11:52 All right. Well, my question is, lately, my boyfriend, and he can't last long when we have sex. Like, it's like seriously two minutes.

12:01 Adam And then he has an orgasm?

12:04 Yeah.

12:04 Drew And he's not doing anything else for you besides intercourse?

12:07 No.

12:08 Adam Well, you got to bite his penis off.

12:11 Pennywise That's just good. Nip it in the bud.

12:12 Drew That's the Australian.

12:13 Adam That's Australian for breaking up. You've seen the commercials.

12:17 Drew Put another on the Barbie.

12:18 Adam That's right.

12:20 Well, he was good before, but it just recently happened.

12:24 Adam Well, how long have you two been going out?

12:26 Um, a year and a half.

12:28 Adam And he was, you guys been having sex for a year or so?

12:32 Um, yeah.

12:33 Adam And it was good the whole time until recently?

12:36 Yeah, like two months, like now.

12:38 Adam You're fat. Drew, please, have you asked him what it is?

12:42 No, well, yeah, he thinks we do it too much.

12:45 Adam How often do you do it?

12:47 Well, like once a week.

12:49 Adam Well, what's up with these young guys? They don't go down on women, they think it's too much. They were, oh, no, not anal. Heavens to Betsy, no. You make the baby Jesus cry when you talk about anal.

13:01 Drew Goodness gracious.

13:02 Adam What's up with guys?

13:05 Pennywise Something's wrong with the new generation.

13:08 Adam Why don't you talk to him about it? See what's going on? You think you'll just embarrass him?

13:13 I think I'll embarrass him. He's really sensitive about it.

13:16 Adam And does he do the oral thing on you?

13:19 Sometimes. Not really.

13:21 Drew You need to get that more part of the game here. Really. Will you educate her about your clock?

13:28 Adam Yeah. I believe, and I give this speech to guys once every couple of weeks, but there's a lot of young guys who don't last very long out there. And here's the way you remedy that. Once you start going down on a girl, the clock starts. Meaning, if you're good for 3 or 4 minutes when you're having sex, well, you go down on them for 15, 18 minutes, then you got a nice 20 minute sex session in there. And the women don't complain because that's what they want anyway. If you spoke to most women and said, would you like the guy to go down on you for 15 and then have intercourse for 5 or the other way around? Most of them, I bet, would go for number one. Number one. Down for 15 and up for 5. So, that's what this guy's got to do and he'll get rid of the complaints. Robbie?

14:17 Caller Yeah.

14:18 Adam You're 14?

14:19 Caller Actually, I'm 15.

14:20 Adam 15? On with Pennywise. What's up?

14:22 Caller Hey, I have a question for Jim. Yeah. I used to speak in your backyard with Daniel Beverly. Silly Stringy.

14:29 You remember that?

14:30 Caller Oh, yeah. That was you.

14:32 Caller Yeah.

14:32 Caller On Halloween. I was warning...

14:35 Caller You're Big Ben's little brother's friend, right?

14:38 Caller Yeah.

14:39 Caller You're older now.

14:40 Caller Yeah, I'm older.

14:41 Adam He's 15.

14:42 Caller Are you still sneaking into my backyard?

14:44 Caller No, not as much. They don't move. But anyway, I was just wondering when the next time we're going to be playing a South Bay show.

14:53 Caller You never know. We might play at a Hermosa Saloon again, just unannounced.

14:58 Drew All right.

14:58 Caller Or July 4th. Anything could happen.

15:01 Drew You guys have a problem with the Hormosa?

15:03 Pennywise At House of Blues tomorrow, 3 o'clock in Hollywood, there's going to be a free show if you want to go up there.

15:08 Adam Oh, there is?

15:09 Drew That's a big deal.

15:09 Pennywise It's not South Bay, but it's pretty close.

15:11 Drew Is that just announced right now or has that been announced?

15:13 Pennywise Actually we were scheduled to play the Tower Records parking lot and then the City Council decided to pull the plug on it because they don't like our lyrical content. So we're moved into the House of Blues and they're going to be giving away wristbands at Tower starting at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning and anyone that doesn't get a wristband can still get in to the show if it doesn't get oversold.

15:36 Adam That's House of Blues tomorrow?

15:38 Pennywise 3 o'clock. Doors open at 2.

15:39 Adam Wow. Well, there's a nice piece of information. I didn't even know that. Hey, Robbie?

15:43 Caller Yeah.

15:44 Adam All right. Why don't you take your moped down to Sunset Strip and watch that show?

15:48 Caller All right. Sounds good. One last thing. Adam, you're a guy.

15:51 Adam Well, thanks.

15:51 Caller All right.

15:52 Caller Talk to you later.

15:53 Why?

15:56 Adam Lynn?

15:57 Yeah?

15:57 Adam Hey, you're 16. What's up?

15:59 Caller Hi. I just want to say Pennywise, I think it's awesome that you guys speak your mind and like address the problems in our world. Like you've pretty much inspired me. Like I used to be a junkie and like you inspired me to get off drugs and to like to go and, you know, ask out that guy and to get myself in therapy and to get my grades up and everything. And like just something about your lyrics, like really inspire me. And also I was wondering, are you guys going to be in Chicago for the Warp Tour?

16:32 Caller We're going to come to Chicago on our own tour. We're not doing the Midwest for the Warp Tour.

16:39 Caller Oh, no.

16:40 Caller But we're going to come and do our own tour there.

16:41 Adam So we'll be there.

16:42 Caller Like I would, it would mean so much to me if I can meet you guys. Like would I be able to arrange that?

16:49 Pennywise Yeah. Yes. Let's give our tour manager our manager's phone number out over the air. You can give him a call.

16:56 Caller Yeah. One thing that everyone, I'm amazed that more people don't realize this, if your favorite band's playing in your town, they're always going to be there sound checking all day long, and if you just go and hang out, there's usually a tour bus or a van there, and they're usually there all day. So if you want to stock your favorite band.

17:15 Pennywise Just go early and stand by the door, and when they come in, say, Oh my God, Fred, can I get in please?

17:21 Adam Well, what is the, let's give everyone, let everyone do the math on the sound checks, because let's say you're supposed to be on stage at 9 o'clock. You'll get to the venue at 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock to do the sound?

17:35 Pennywise Two, three, four.

17:36 Adam And then get out and go back to the hotel for a couple hours or something, and then come back again, right?

17:41 Pennywise Probably be hanging in the dressing room, having a couple cold ones.

17:43 Adam Oh really? Go all the way through?

17:46 Pennywise Yeah, most of the time.

17:47 Adam No?

17:48 Caller Not me.

17:48 Pennywise Randy goes to the hotel, or whatever.

17:50 Adam Randy goes to the hotel.

17:51 Caller Watching TV, you know, they got to pay TV there.

17:53 Adam The point is, is if the gig is 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock, you should be coming around, if you're looking to stock your favorite band.

18:01 Pennywise 2 o'clock.

18:02 Adam 2 or 3 o'clock? In there.

18:03 Caller Yeah, like, I'm going to be seeing Green Day in the Living End tomorrow.

18:07 Pennywise Stock them.

18:08 Caller Yeah, I know, I really want to. I met Green Day last year at Warped Tour, like they brought me on stage, but yeah, I was thinking, like, I should show up, like, earlier. Right.

18:19 Adam Right, yeah, but you got to get there, we're saying don't get there two hours early, get there five hours early when they're doing the sound check.

18:26 Caller Yeah, they went, like, would they be?

18:28 Adam No, look, we did the math, we're not going over there for you.

18:30 Drew She's going to have to get in the venue.

18:32 Adam Well, that's oral science, right?

18:34 Pennywise Yeah, either that or biting your penis off.

18:37 Drew Presenting the bit enough.

18:38 Adam Yeah, how do you get in the venue?

18:40 Pennywise It's pretty much open at that point, kind of kids can just wander right in, and you know, it's kind of like trucks are loading equipment and it's pretty easy to walk in or see somebody in the band or somebody that will help you. It's pretty foolproof, trust me. We do it all, like three, there was five, three kids in the parking lot out here that are on the guest list for tomorrow's show. Oh, really? Yeah. They showed up here.

19:02 Adam Smart.

19:02 Caller They were smart.

19:04 Adam Lizzie?

19:04 Pennywise Let's see, did you hear that stuff about how we inspired her to get on the trucks? She was a pretty good guy, actually.

19:09 Adam Yeah, that was good.

19:10 Pennywise All right. We're not all bad.

19:13 Caller Yeah. The rest of the band is really nice, positive people. Fletcher.

19:19 Pennywise In between the vomiting, we inspire people.

19:23 Adam Lizzie?

19:24 Yeah.

19:24 Adam You're 22. What's up?

19:26 Caller I called a couple of weeks ago because I was raped randomly, and you guys gave me some really good advice. Well, you told me to go to group there.

19:34 Drew Yeah. She was a violent, right? Remember this?

19:37 Caller I was jogging.

19:38 Drew Yeah, she was jogging and pulled us. Oh, my God.

19:39 Adam Right. You were just jogging through the park kind of thing?

19:42 Caller I was jogging in front of a hospital where the parking lot was under construction.

19:47 Drew I remember your family didn't want you to get treatment or something.

19:49 Adam Right. And I remember what I figured out from this, which is I'm going to tell my daughter to either walk or run, but jogging is when you get raped.

19:58 Drew Yeah.

19:59 Adam What if you were jogging and someone was coming up to rape you and you started walking all of a sudden? Would they have to stop?

20:04 Caller Yeah. Oh, they would.

20:05 Drew That's a non-rape move.

20:06 Adam Interesting. All right. So we told you to get some counseling.

20:10 Caller Right. You told me to go through my college and find groups, which I did. But in the meantime, because of the group, my problem was I wasn't dealing with it.

20:23 Drew Yeah.

20:23 Caller And I'm still not.

20:25 Drew You will. Listen, as long as you're connected in treatment, you will in your own time.

20:28 Caller Well, the reason why I was freaking out is because there were some people who liked the same thing and they were like, oh, the one year anniversary came and like all hell broke loose. Like they just like flipped out and I was like, oh my god, I'm freaking out now about dealing with it because I'm not sure what's going to happen. But I was attacked again by the same guy.

20:46 And well, hold on.

20:48 Adam You were attacked again?

20:49 Caller Yeah. They caught him because I was, well, I run my same route and it turns out the guy worked at the hospital and he hadn't, I was the only person to hit there, but like he'd been in the city and stuff. And he he was like a serial rapist or something. But I, my dad, like, wasn't letting me go by myself.

21:08 Drew Yeah.

21:09 Caller He would like either follow me in the car or like jog behind me or walk the dog. He was like half a block away. And I also had a weight in my hand and I knocked him in the head.

21:19 Pennywise Nice.

21:20 Drew You guys caught him?

21:21 Caller Yeah, they caught him and I think, think how empowering that all is. I mean, it was pretty empowering.

21:25 Drew You may not freak out. You know, this may be the enclosure for you, in fact.

21:29 Caller Well, I want to get some individual therapy. Everyone keeps shoving this group stuff at me and it's really not working because...

21:35 Adam Wait a minute. Well, hold on a second. I got to get back to the, the re-rape here. You're, you're jogging. You're doing the same route. You always do.

21:43 Caller One of the suggestions in this group was like, maybe I need to like, because I, I would get back on the route, obviously, after.

21:49 Adam Right.

21:50 Caller And one of the suggestions was that I should like not be avoiding the situation.

21:56 Drew How, how bad do those people feel now?

21:58 Pennywise Yeah.

21:58 Drew Yeah.

21:59 Pennywise You guys are the ones that told her to go to group.

22:01 Adam Yeah. Whack them in the head with that weight when you go into group next time. All right. So, so you're running and you're going by the hospital again.

22:07 Caller But it wasn't the first time. So like, I mean, I'd done it like three nights prior.

22:11 Adam OK. And you're going by the hospital again.

22:13 Drew God bless your dad for being smart enough to stay behind.

22:15 Caller Right. And he had a cell phone and like, I, the guy grabbed me and he grabbed me from behind. And when he went to turn me around, I had this weight in my hand and knocked him in the head with it, which confused him. And then my dad was there and he like held the guy down. And I don't, I kind of got thrown. So I don't know. But the police came in.

22:32 Adam Did your dad held him down till the cops came?

22:35 Pennywise Yeah.

22:35 Caller He was, the guy was kind of dazed because of the knock in the head.

22:39 Drew I'm surprised your dad didn't beat his skull in.

22:41 Pennywise That would have been a good time to remove the penis.

22:44 Caller The cops were there really fast because we were at the hospital. And so there were like police at the hospital.

22:49 Adam I don't know. I think your work is done. That's enough therapy. You bashed a guy in the head and apprehended him. You and your dad.

22:56 Pennywise No, she's got to go to court and testify.

22:58 Caller No, my dad got me out of all that.

23:00 Drew Alright, here's the deal. You're still likely to have some post-traumatic stress.

23:02 Caller I know. And I want individual...

23:03 Drew Individual therapy at this point is probably a good way to go.

23:06 Caller But how do I get...

23:07 Caller Like everyone... Like I keep going to these groups and they're like, you need the support.

23:10 Drew If I remember right, did you go to Northwestern? Yeah. They have a huge mental health service there. Just go down to mental health services, get a therapist and just start going.

23:18 Adam You know what... You know what always amazes me about rapists? And I know what the answer is, but as a sane non-rapist, I'm still amazed by... You hear these stories, I mean, you know, I go home, I watch all those crime TV shows and there's the guy and he breaks into the house and the chick's kicking and screaming and clawing, and then they find the semen samples in her. You know what I mean? Like, listen, I get a couple of beers in me, I can barely get a boner at the strip club, you know, because the lights are flashing, I got my buddy sitting next to me elbowing me, he was getting a lap dance, I'm trying to focus, you know, but they got that goddamn cherry pie playing in the background and there's a strobe going on, and I got to take a leak, and I'm like, I'm losing, I can barely get it going in that situation. Now could you imagine, you know, holding somebody down and they're like kicking and screaming and knocking stuff down, and you squeeze one off?

24:18 Caller Yeah, they're sick people.

24:20 Adam But that, yeah, that's what does get them off, but I'm just thinking, you know, to sane guys, I mean, how distracting and how undoable would that be?

24:29 Pennywise Pretty undoable.

24:30 Adam Right. Jesus.

24:32 Caller Just be thankful that you don't understand.

24:35 Adam Right. Yeah, I guess, yeah, that I can't go, yeah, yeah.

24:38 Drew I'm a rapist.

24:39 Adam Drew, please. We haven't gone to break yet.

24:42 Drew Oh, sorry.

24:42 Adam Pennywise is here for their Triumphant Loveline Return. We'll take a break. We'll hear something off the new CD. More questions, more answers after this.

24:53 Drew Hello. What is this?

24:54 This is Loveline. 1-800-LOVE-191. Loveline will be right back.

25:17 Caller This is Aaron from Stained, and you're listening to Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

25:22 Adam Yeah, yeah, it is Loveline. And yeah, I'm Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew is here. Although Dr. Drew is on the other phone. I think he's taken a medical call or something, must be talking to a listener. Randy, Jim and Fletcher here from Pennywise. And although Jim and Fletcher, here comes Jim and I'm guessing Fletcher will be close behind. Lock the door, lock the door, lock the door.

25:50 Caller Yeah, keep him out.

25:52 Caller Yeah, let's barricade him in.

25:54 Adam Land of the Free with a question mark is the name of the CD. Why don't, well, since Drew is on the horn and Fletcher is doing God knows what to God knows who, why don't we hear something off of the new Pennywise CD which is out tomorrow. You cute up there Anderson? This one is called F-Authority.

29:26 Caller Ah, there you go.

29:27 Adam Land of the Free, everybody, out tomorrow. Pennywise is the band. Dr. Drew has still not made his way into the studio.

29:35 Pennywise I think you went home.

29:37 Adam He cut his losses.

29:38 Pennywise He got scared.

29:41 Adam Dr. Drew, I'm guessing he was on the phone, so I'm guessing he was talking to some patient or some caller or somebody who had bigger troubles than we have. So he'll wander into the studio. But until then, we got Pennywise.

29:54 Anything can cause addiction, Adam. Did you know that?

29:57 Adam That's David Atlin, career doing this, Dr. Drew, by the way. Randy?

30:01 Yeah?

30:01 Adam You're 18?

30:02 Caller Yes, I am.

30:03 Adam What is up?

30:04 Caller Um, yeah, it's kind of embarrassing, but I'm attracted to guys. But when it comes to, like, you know, just having the sex and everything, I, I don't know, it just turns me off. You know what I mean?

30:17 Adam Yeah. Have you ever had sex with the guys? You're behind them, still intact?

30:23 Caller Yeah, I've had sex with the guy, but, yeah, I don't do the whole cornholing thing.

30:27 Adam Oh, you don't?

30:27 Caller No.

30:28 Adam Well, what did you do with the guy?

30:31 Caller Just basically oral sex.

30:33 Drew That's what most gay guys just do. I mean, the animal you convince that you can't be gay unless you engage in anal sex. But that's...

30:39 Adam Well, God doesn't recognize you as officially gay until...

30:42 Drew Maybe the Vatican...

30:44 Adam The Bahamian has been pierced.

30:45 Drew I understand, but the last ecumenical council, they did make a provision where mutual oral sex could qualify.

30:51 Adam Oh, I know. They're very progressive now. We have... we do... it's something I learned from this show that a lot of gay guys just do the oral thing.

31:00 Drew Yeah. Yeah. That's fine.

31:04 Caller Yeah, none of my partners have ever, like, wanted to do the whole cornholing thing.

31:08 Drew Alright, so what's your question?

31:09 Caller My question is, like, what could have caused this? I mean...

31:12 Drew What could have caused...

31:13 Pennywise you weren't here. He's not being turned on. He likes guys, but he's not turned on by a man.

31:19 Drew Oh, interesting.

31:20 Caller Yeah, I'm not turned on.

31:22 Adam What do you... do you like... do you think you like women physically?

31:25 Caller No. I find them repulsive.

31:28 Adam Yeah?

31:28 Caller Yeah.

31:29 Adam I've had those days.

31:30 Drew Are those same kinds of repulsive feelings trickling into your feelings about guys?

31:35 Caller Um... like, yeah, when we're having intercourse.

31:39 Drew Yeah. And sometimes... are you attracted to them initially? And then when you have sex, they seem kind of spoiled?

31:44 Caller Yeah.

31:45 Drew Yeah. That's called envy. We were talking about this last night, Adam, you and I. When somebody is very envious of other people, sometimes they want to have them, and when they have them, just the fact that they're in your clutches makes you want to spoil them. Or makes them spoil by virtue of the fact that they're having them submitted to you.

32:00 Adam Well, when you say spoil them, you mean soil them, not get them candy and flowers.

32:04 Drew No, yeah.

32:05 Adam Yeah, guys do that to women.

32:08 Drew Yeah, and men do that to men, and women do that to men. That's actually pretty heavy stuff, when you have that kind of envy that's getting away with your build up clutches, actually.

32:15 Adam Drew, do you think you're just voicing that on this guy because we were talking about it on a cell phone last night on our ride home, and you decided you're going to give it to the next gay guy who calls?

32:24 Drew No, I just am sort of becoming increasingly aware of how much envy gets into stuff. This is theoretically exactly that kind of situation.

32:32 Adam All right, so is there any guy you could get it up for him, and what about Drew? Drew, please, let him answer the question.

32:40 Caller I don't know. I've never seen a picture of Drew.

32:41 Adam He's hot.

32:42 Pennywise He is hot.

32:43 Is he?

32:44 Adam Yes, and your mom would like him because he's a doctor.

32:47 Drew What color face though, he said?

32:49 What color hair?

32:49 Drew Hair.

32:50 Adam So it's hard to tell. It's about three different colors right now. All right. You've never seen Drew, huh?

32:56 Caller No, I haven't.

32:57 Adam Wow, Drew, you've got to fire your publicist. Jesus Christ.

33:01 Caller But I was just wondering if this could have anything to do with like my past.

33:05 Drew Yeah, sure. Of course it does.

33:07 Caller Because like when I was littler, I was molested like hundreds of different times.

33:11 Adam Well, I smell a little Mason jar coming up perhaps.

33:14 Drew No.

33:14 Adam No?

33:15 Drew All right. I got enough of that from him not even to mention that.

33:19 Adam Who molested you hundreds of times?

33:21 Caller My mom's best friend's daughter, a neighbor boy, my best friend's dad, and the babysitter's son.

33:27 Drew Nice.

33:29 Adam Wow. You made the rounds. Started with a woman though, huh? Huh? How old were you when you got the best friend's daughter?

33:37 Caller I was about five and a half.

33:40 Adam How old was she?

33:41 Caller She's about six and a half.

33:43 Adam Yeah? Yeah. Was that so bad? I mean, I don't want to be insensitive.

33:48 Pennywise Sounds like a doctor, a doctor, a nurse situation.

33:51 Adam Yeah. I mean, what were you guys doing?

33:54 Caller She made me perform oral sex on her and vaginal and anal.

34:00 Drew Freak out a five-year-old.

34:01 Adam Anal?

34:01 Pennywise I was about five.

34:03 Adam How do you do it? I wasn't doing anal until I was seven.

34:06 Caller Spikes.

34:07 Adam Five and a half. Way ahead of the curve. Well, hold on. Was your penis erect?

34:14 Caller I can't remember. I think it was, but honestly, I don't remember.

34:18 Pennywise It's amazing that a six-year-old would know how to make someone perform all that type of stuff.

34:23 Adam Well, God knows what happened to her.

34:26 Caller Yeah, her father had molested her several times.

34:29 Drew Right.

34:30 Adam Well, hey, Randy? Yeah? Therapy, therapy, and a little more therapy.

34:35 Drew Yeah, that's the only way to undo all that.

34:37 Caller Do you know, have you ever heard of the treatment center called Devereaux Cleo Wallace in Colorado?

34:42 Drew No, I'm not familiar with that one.

34:43 Caller Yeah, I just successfully discharged from there. I was there for like nine months and got help for this and for in a survivor's group for like you know.

34:54 Drew Did you talk about these issues?

34:55 Caller Yeah, I did and I'm currently seeking out, continuing my treatment that I had there and like going on and.

35:05 Drew Are you an addict also?

35:07 Caller I'm a sex addict.

35:08 Drew Yeah, are you are you going to SA doing 12 step?

35:11 Caller Yeah.

35:12 Drew All right, well, get get get more involved with the sponsor. Do those fourth and fifth step over and over again. So you get deeper involved in that. Get the individual therapist. You know, it'll it takes time.

35:22 Adam All right.

35:22 Drew Long time.

35:23 Adam Good good luck. Tiffany.

35:25 Drew Yes.

35:26 Adam Tiffany.

35:27 Caller Hi.

35:28 Adam Hi. What's up with your phone?

35:30 Caller I don't know. I don't know.

35:33 Adam Christ.

35:33 Caller Here, I'll plug in.

35:34 Adam You there?

35:35 Caller Can you hear me better now?

35:36 Drew Yes.

35:37 Adam Yeah. What's up?

35:38 Caller Okay. I have a quick question and a quick comment.

35:40 Adam All right.

35:41 Caller Or the other way around. Okay. I've been listening to you guys a really long time and I think you're like the funniest person in the world, Adam. Me and my sister used to listen to the Dr. Drew Boogie all the time.

35:49 Adam Yeah.

35:50 Caller But I don't have it anymore.

35:51 Adam All right. Well, we'll play that. You want the shuffle or the boogie?

35:55 Caller What was that one?

35:56 Caller And it starts out and goes, Get down, get down.

35:58 Adam That's the Dr. Drew Boogie.

36:00 Caller I love that song.

36:02 Adam All right. We'll hear that.

36:03 Caller Okay. Cool. I have a quick silly question because I've heard you guys talk about it before, but my friend and I were wondering what a buttplug is.

36:10 Adam Ah.

36:11 Drew Pennywise is here.

36:12 Adam Yeah.

36:13 Pennywise I think Adam is best suited to answer that question.

36:15 Drew Yeah.

36:16 Adam I remember when my dad got me my first buttplug. Oh, my God. It's nothing.

36:20 Pennywise And you're stocking for Christmas?

36:22 Adam Yeah. Appropriately titled a stocking stuffer. There's nothing sacred Anderson. The conversations we have during the commercial breaks, is everything need to be recorded? I just got done whacking off to my mom. These are these are these. What happened to the the confidentiality between a physician and sometimes silence?

36:45 Pennywise He records his cell phone calls on the way home.

36:47 Adam Jesus Christ.

36:48 Drew Somebody probably is.

36:49 Adam A buttplug is a is an object. Well, it's one of those things that's kind of easy to figure out. There's certain titles like horseshoe. You know what I mean?

37:00 Caller It's different horn.

37:01 Caller Right. It's kind of do. But I know the purpose of it or anything.

37:04 Adam Well, you one would put it up one's butt.

37:08 Drew Well, first describe what it is there. Well, like an ace of spades.

37:11 Adam Yeah, it has a shape almost like a spade from a playing card, although it doesn't get that broad at the base. It's not quite that triangular, but it is smaller at the top than it is at the bottom.

37:22 Drew You know, a little too much to make me comfortable.

37:24 Pennywise I'm not real familiar with the shape of the buttplugs.

37:27 Adam I'll tell you why. One of the reasons I'm an expert in the buttplugs is... No, I had a crazy neighbor one night. I lived in my first apartment in North Hollywood with like three guys in a one-bedroom, and we had this manager named Al. He was this crazy old guy with this dog, and he brought over... One of the guys was a sex fiend who lived in one of the units, and he moved out, and this guy, Al, cleaned out his apartment, brought everything over to our apartment. You know, why throw it away when there's four guys that sound like they need it who live upstairs? And this guy had an assortment of butt plugs, and like I said, it's kind of looked like a, I don't know, Cable Ace Award or something. It's sort of like a spade and has a little ridge at the bottom, and you put it in your ass.

38:15 Caller Four?

38:16 Adam I think it's pleasurable.

38:18 Drew For some?

38:18 Pennywise It's either pleasure or really bad diarrhea.

38:22 Adam I've never actually used one. Yeah, yes, it does have a use. If you're on the road, if you can't get to a rest stop.

38:30 Drew But Tiffany, God bless you for bringing this up. This is very important material we have to get through here.

38:34 Caller It's all I could do for you guys.

38:36 Adam I appreciate that very much.

38:37 Caller You are so welcome.

38:38 Adam Good luck in finishing school, okay?

38:40 Caller Thank you.

38:41 Adam All right, take care of yourself. Pennywise is here. We'll take a little break and then we'll be back with more of them, more of you after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla, that's Dr. Drew. Pennywise is here. 311 is coming in here tomorrow night, and some 41 on Thursday. Let me tell you where you can find Pennywise. They're gonna be at the House of Blues tomorrow, and they're doing, it's a 3 o'clock show, right? And you can get the wristbands at the Sunset Tower, starting at 9, did you say?

39:47 Pennywise Yep.

39:48 Adam All right, so that is sort of an alternative for doing the Sunset Parking Lot show, right?

39:54 Pennywise Right.

39:54 Adam All right, so still time to see Pennywise tomorrow, and then of course you see them at the Weenie Rose this weekend in Irvine Meadows. And what did we forget? The Warped Tour.

40:05 Pennywise The Warped Tour, 29th, or 28th.

40:07 Adam And Land of the Free coming out tomorrow, everybody. So let's get back to the phones and speak to Brian who's 12. Brian?

40:17 Caller Hi.

40:17 Adam What's up?

40:18 Caller I just had a question for Pennywise.

40:20 Caller I wanted to know what inspired them to write the song F Authority.

40:24 Caller Fletcher's life.

40:29 Pennywise A lot of things. I think it's just, you know, there's a lot of people in positions of power that abuse their authority, whether it's, you know, police all the way down the line to, you know, the president of the United States. So there's a lot of reasons to be mad at authority figures. I mean, it could be your teacher. It could be your hospital nurse that, you know, is taking advantage of people. So there's a lot of authority figures out there. And I'm sure you've got a couple in your life that you probably want to say F Authority to. So it's kind of a broad spectrum. You know, it's not about one thing. It's just about us, the little guys, having the having their say someday.

41:14 Yeah, I had another question, too.

41:16 Drew Okay.

41:17 Caller Can I ask it?

41:18 Adam Yeah, go ahead.

41:19 Caller Okay, what's your favorite punk band besides yourselves?

41:23 Pennywise Randy's going to start with.

41:25 Caller I guess we could just give a blanket black flag and minor threat. Dead Kennedys.

41:32 Pennywise Yes, The Damned.

41:33 Caller Descendants, Circle Jerks.

41:35 Adam Do you guys look at yourselves as a punk band?

41:38 Caller Influence heavily. I mean, the terms kind of watered down now and there's a lot of people that have their definitions, but I think we're definitely a punk band when it comes to our attitude.

41:52 Adam Is there any punk bands now? I mean, like I don't want to say mainstream, but a punk band that you could shout out the name and people are listening would know and go, yeah, I guess that's a punk band.

42:03 Caller That's playing now?

42:04 Pennywise Yeah.

42:06 Adam Don't think so?

42:07 Pennywise There might be a couple out there. I mean, the real punk bands, I think, are more on the underground tip right now than mainstream. It's hard to remain a punk band or be called a punk band when you're-

42:22 Adam Selling millions of records. Everyone knows you are doing Loveline, Kissing the Man.

42:26 Pennywise The only way you can be considered a punk band is if you come in here and force feed the host of the show Booze and Booze.

42:31 Caller That has a lot to say about what happened.

42:34 Adam Hey, Brian?

42:35 Caller Yeah?

42:35 Adam Alright, you got both questions answered pretty good.

42:38 Caller Okay.

42:38 Adam Take care of yourself.

42:39 Caller Okay.

42:40 Adam And go to bed. You're 12 for Christ's sake. Yeah, these teachers are in for a good time tomorrow. Jake? You're 18?

42:50 Caller Yeah.

42:50 Adam What's up?

42:51 Caller I just want to say, what up to Fletcher, Jim, and them? I came down to record with them, with a group of people that they invited down off their little contest thing.

43:00 Pennywise All right.

43:01 Caller And I just want to make sure to see you guys at Warped Tour and at the Gorge.

43:07 Pennywise Cool.

43:08 Caller Keep up the good work, guys. I got the album today. I walked into the store and got them to sell it to me early.

43:14 Pennywise Yeah, they tend to do that a lot.

43:16 Caller Do you like it?

43:17 Caller Yeah, dude. You guys rock.

43:19 Pennywise Did you hear yourself singing on there?

43:21 Caller Oh, yeah.

43:22 Caller That's awesome. I thought something was going to happen where you couldn't hear it, but you guys left it raw like it always is.

43:28 Pennywise Cool.

43:29 Adam Thanks, Jake.

43:30 Caller Thanks a lot.

43:31 Adam Take care of yourself. Let's talk to Sharon.

43:34 Caller Hi.

43:35 Adam Sharon, you're 38. What's up?

43:38 Caller Well, first of all, I like to masturbate a lot. Sometimes I like to watch women doing it. When I'm watching it and I'm in the middle of it, I think that it really turns me on and I think I want to do that. I've never done it. But then when I'm out of the moment and just in my everyday life, I look at a woman or something and I think it kind of like grosses me out. So I'm like kind of confused about that. I'm also married 11 years now.

44:14 Adam I think women have a much broader spectrum to fantasize about than guys.

44:19 Drew Oh, yeah.

44:20 Adam I mean, guys, they got their thing. I like the big jugs. I'm fairly limited in terms of my spectrum. I got the big jug videos at home. I pop in the big jug video and I go at it. I did that 10 years ago and I'm guessing 10 years from now I'll be at home watching the big jug videos. But I don't like spread it. I don't know any guys who go like, yeah, I'm a straight guy. I've never been with a guy not interested in guys. Married to a woman happily 15 years. But I like to whack off the guy and blow on another guy every once in a while, sure. You know, like I don't know any of those guys because what you fantasize about is a guy's like what you want to do. It's just the only thing that keeps you from doing it is someone won't let you do it to them. But that's what you would fantasize about.

45:04 Caller But I'm like so convinced that I'm going to do this. I mean, it's like I just, and then.

45:10 Adam Yeah, but then you have your orgasm, right? When you're done.

45:12 Caller Yeah.

45:13 Adam That's the other thing. That's the other thing guys do. You guys ever do that where you go, I'm going for three this time. Oh yeah. It's going to be a big hat trip. That's right. Get the belly zamboni ready. And then you do that one and you go, what's on TV? I got to move around. What's in the fridge?

45:28 Caller The other thing is, is that Dr. Drew talked about, and I don't know what you said about it, because I just heard the tail end, you were talking about multi-orgasmic women. And that like, I can go for like, I can have like an hour or two session, just you know, keep going. And what it's done is that it makes it more difficult for me to have an orgasm when I do have sex with my husband.

45:52 Drew Is that because you're using a vibrator or something?

45:55 Caller Not always. So not always, sometimes.

45:59 Drew Is there something wrong with the relationship with the husband though?

46:02 Caller No, not at all.

46:04 Adam All right, so do you feel like you need to be with a woman though once before you die, just to check it off the list?

46:10 Caller Sometimes I think that, but I just, like I said, you know, unless I'm in the heat of the moment or maybe just very drunk or something, I don't know.

46:18 Adam All right. I don't think this is out of the realm of normal for women.

46:22 Pennywise Check with your husband and see if he might want to be involved with that too.

46:26 Adam Yeah, I bet his fantasy was to be with a woman too, other than you. Yeah?

46:30 Caller I don't know if I could do that. I don't know if I could see him with another woman.

46:33 Adam Do you have kids?

46:35 Caller Yup.

46:35 Adam All right. Yeah, don't do it. You'll screw the kids up.

46:38 Caller Yeah.

46:39 Adam All right.

46:39 Drew Just stay focused.

46:40 Caller So, that's not like too abnormal?

46:43 Drew It's not abnormal. They're fantasies. Believe them as fantasies, all right?

46:46 Adam Yeah, you're fine. I'm telling you, most... I have not met a woman who does not admit that she thinks about another woman once in a while, or at least finds one physically attractive. And half the time, if you find a woman and you can hold them down long enough to watch porn, they end up liking the chick stuff better than the guy stuff. You can't figure those women out. You really can't. That's why it's important not to. Just don't talk to them. Don't try.

47:12 Drew Don't try. All right.

47:14 Adam Let's take a little break. Pennywise is here and we'll be back. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. Oh, look who's here. It's Drew. Fletcher, Jim, and Randy are all here from Pennywise. The CD, Land of the Free, coming out tomorrow. But as we learned, you can go to a record store and beg the guy, and they might give it to you tonight, although I think it's a little late for that, because it is tomorrow. Half the places we're on. You can find them at the Warped Tour this summer, and also at the Fabulous K-Rock Weenie Roast coming up on Saturday. And tomorrow, House of Blues, 3 o'clock, get your wristbands at the Sunset Tower, starting at 9 a.m., right?

48:38 Pennywise You got it.

48:39 Adam You can line up before then, anytime, and they start handing them out at 9?

48:43 Pennywise Yeah, whatever you want to do.

48:45 Adam All right.

48:45 Caller We have no idea.

48:46 Adam Let's keep going. We'll hear something else off the new CD in a few, but we'll take some calls, too. Kim?

48:53 Yes.

48:54 Adam You're 19?

48:55 Caller Yes.

48:55 Caller What's up?

48:57 Caller My boyfriend's really self-conscious about his penis size, and I've been with him for a long time, and I think it's just fine. I'd like to know what I could do in order to reassure him that it is just fine.

49:07 Adam What size is it?

49:09 Caller It's like five and a half inches.

49:14 Adam You can laugh like that. Yeah, that's not too bad. It's bigger than the, what's the average?

49:20 Drew Right around there.

49:21 Adam It's like 5.3 or something. Yeah, it keeps getting smaller too.

49:26 Caller Tell him it's huge.

49:28 Adam Yeah, what else is wrong with him?

49:30 Caller That's it.

49:31 Drew When guys are really that concerned about their penis size, usually that's sort of a symbol for themselves or their self-esteem.

49:38 Caller Well, I know his mother is not exactly nice to him and he's had some-

49:43 Adam She makes fun of a small thing.

49:45 Caller No.

49:46 Pennywise Since he was a child.

49:46 Caller Yeah, she calls him Irish. He's hung like a hamster.

49:49 Drew She says that to him.

49:50 Pennywise Oh, that's nice.

49:50 Drew His mom says this? What kind of mom is that?

49:55 Adam Do Irish guys have small penises?

49:58 Pennywise I thought it was only Japanese.

50:00 Caller No, Doug McKinnon used to say he had the Irish curse.

50:02 Pennywise Oh, man.

50:03 Adam Oh, really?

50:03 Pennywise Nice to start throwing out names, dude.

50:06 Adam Wow.

50:06 Caller No, he just did that to get the girls curious.

50:11 Adam Right.

50:11 Caller To see.

50:12 Adam He worked that hung like a leprechaun angle. Right.

50:14 Caller Then they want to check it out.

50:16 Adam Smart.

50:16 Pennywise Good cover up, Randy. You're lucky Doug lives in Florida now.

50:20 Adam Hey, how old is this guy?

50:23 Caller He's 19.

50:24 Adam All right. So, look, can you just, next time you have sex, start crying and yell, you're hurting me? You're killing me with that penis? You're going to tear my insides out?

50:35 Caller It was like not too long ago. He had compared it to one of the dildos I have, and it's bigger than he is, and he got really self-conscious. And I told him that the dildo hurt because it does, because it's too big, and I think he's just perfect, and I tell him that, and he's still really self-conscious.

50:53 Adam How many dildos do you have?

50:56 Caller Well, it's one dildo, and I've got a vibrator.

50:58 Adam I see. So, just in case the batteries go, you got a backup?

51:02 Caller Yeah.

51:03 Adam Sweet.

51:05 Pennywise You should get, maybe get a smaller one, like around his size.

51:08 Adam Yeah, do they have like that, my first dildo or something, you know, something's a little smaller, made by a car or something.

51:15 Pennywise Average, average size.

51:16 Right.

51:17 Caller Not that I've seen.

51:19 Adam Okay. And you, you're fine with him sexually?

51:22 Caller Oh, definitely. He brings me wonderful pleasure.

51:25 Adam Nice. He brings you good pleasure.

51:27 Caller Yes.

51:28 Adam What's up with Kim? Kim sounds like she's got something going on.

51:31 Caller Yeah, absolutely.

51:32 Adam You got something going on? What do you do? Do you strip?

51:35 Caller No, not at all. I'm a college, full-time college student going to get a doctor at a pharmacy.

51:39 Adam By day, but hook her at night, right?

51:41 Caller No, not at all.

51:42 Adam I've seen that movie.

51:44 Caller No?

51:44 Adam No. No weird hangups with guys?

51:48 Caller No, not at all.

51:49 Adam All right. I don't know. Is this guy insecure in other parts of his life?

51:54 Caller It doesn't seem like it.

51:55 Drew It has to be. Although the way mom works, the pain is there.

52:00 Caller His sister's a tyrant and his dad's never around, and his older sister's fine.

52:07 Pennywise Aren't there some medical ways to enlarge? Yeah.

52:11 Drew Not really. You got something?

52:13 Pennywise No, I thought you knew about that kind of stuff.

52:14 Drew No. Not that really works.

52:16 Adam Nothing that lasts. Right.

52:18 Pennywise I saw some show on HBO about real sex.

52:20 Drew Stuffing the penis?

52:21 Pennywise No, like hanging weights off of it or something.

52:24 Drew But then what you get, that just stretches the soft tissue that doesn't change the stuff that swells up. So you get like the usual size with like an elephant's trunk.

52:32 Caller Oh, yeah.

52:33 Pennywise That's kind of what that guy looked like, as a matter of fact.

52:36 Adam It's like when you run around the house in your socks and eventually get the toe part hang off. What good is that? It won't do you any good.

52:45 Drew In the gym, I guess it's okay, right?

52:47 Adam It looks good, yeah.

52:49 Drew Put it in the erection, you got like a toes hang off.

52:50 Adam Sure, but the gay guys at the gym know you mean business. Alright, she needs to tell them just to get over it. I mean, don't you guys think sometimes when guys are complaining and whining and all that, that the women should just go, you know, look, I love you, your penis is fine, now shut up, just do a little tough love. Like when they keep backpedaling and going, no, no, no, you're good, no, no, no, you're fine, no, no. That the guy starts even getting deeper into his own crap. They need to just sort of crack the whip every once in a while. I think that's what you need to do. And having the dildo floating around that's bigger than he is.

53:24 Drew Not a great idea.

53:25 Adam Probably not, probably not. John?

53:28 Drew Yeah.

53:28 Adam You're 23?

53:29 Caller Yes.

53:30 Adam What's up?

53:31 Caller Hey, I just want to see what's up to Fletcher, Jim and Randy. What's up, guys? What's up? What's up? Hey, and I just want to say big ups to Joe Barisi. I thought I took the whole Pennywise sound to a new level on this new album. Cool. We did too. Right on. And then, Fletcher, I have a question for you. My dad has a brochure for Zone Diet, and I was curious if you were actually, you were in one of the advertisements.

53:52 Drew Yeah, yeah.

53:54 Caller And I was wondering, can you recommend a good meal line? Because I'm about to go on it myself. And how much weight did you lose off it?

54:01 Pennywise Is your dad a lawyer?

54:02 Caller No.

54:03 Pennywise Because I'm going to sue you. No, the Zone Diet was really, really good. You know, ever since I heard that Tom Hanks went on it to lose that weight for Castaway, I figured I needed to sign up. I lost 25 pounds, and I never felt better in my life. And then I went in the studio for two months and gained about 30 back. So it's pretty dangerous on the way back. If you can stick to it, it's good. But I know, I'm pretty sure I know who this is, and I'm going to give you a beating tomorrow. Good for you. Yeah.

54:32 Adam How does the Zone, how does it work, the Zone diet? Like, what's the plan?

54:36 Pennywise The Zone is like, it's, it's about, it's about 1300 bucks a month. It's 40 bucks a day. They deliver the food to your house every morning. It's all gourmet meals. Right. It's like, for me, since I'm a larger guy, is what they called, called me, I get four meals a day and like three snacks. And it's kind of like, it's 40, 30, 30, 40% carbohydrates, 30% protein and then saturated fat or whatever good fat is. I don't know what they call it. But it actually works. It's like no sugar.

55:10 Adam Right.

55:11 Pennywise And it's, it really, I felt really good on it.

55:13 Adam So you only get to eat what shows up at your front door.

55:16 Pennywise But it's all gourmet. It's really, actually tastes really good. And I was spending about $80 a day on food, you know, going out to eat every night and drink.

55:25 Adam Well, that's a good, that's a good point.

55:27 Pennywise And no, and I didn't have to take my chick out anymore.

55:30 Adam Right. Because it, but you can't go out, you can't drink like three pitchers of margaritas at four in the morning.

55:35 Pennywise I actually didn't drink in that month long period, Dr. Drew.

55:39 Adam Wow. And, and, and you felt better, you had more energy?

55:43 Pennywise I felt really, really good. And everyone was saying I looked really good. And now I'm just right back to my old self.

55:48 Adam Well, you still look good. Drinking. Yeah, you look hot.

55:50 Pennywise And eating. I had two jumbo jacks today.

55:53 Drew You're fat.

55:54 Adam But, but I mean, now what, what are your dimensions?

55:58 Pennywise My dimensions?

56:00 Caller You ever seen a wheel?

56:01 Adam Well, a barrel?

56:02 Caller You know, the big barrels on the cartoons?

56:05 Adam That's it. Now, what, what, what are they?

56:07 Pennywise My feet are size 15. My thighs are bigger than my girlfriend's waist. My, my dickies are 44 shorts, double X shirt.

56:22 Adam Right. So you're, you're 6'6 and high?

56:24 Pennywise I'm 6'5, 307 pounds right now.

56:28 Adam What were you, what was your biggest? What's the most you ever weighed?

56:32 Pennywise I think when the Zone people came over, I was at like, I was at like 320 when I got on the scale.

56:37 Adam And?

56:37 Pennywise But my body fat was really low. And he was really surprised. I said, check it out. It's all muscle.

56:42 Adam And, and. Well, there is a lot of muscle there. I mean, for a 300 pound plus guy. I mean, you probably couldn't, I mean, you're not looking to get anywhere under 250, are you?

56:55 Pennywise I'm not really looking to get anywhere.

56:57 Adam But I mean, if you're losing weight.

57:00 Drew You couldn't get under 250.

57:01 Adam You couldn't get under 250.

57:02 Pennywise I think 250 is probably like right around where I should be or where I was when I was like really healthy.

57:08 Adam Right.

57:09 Pennywise Before the free beer started flowing.

57:11 Adam And I know it's tough, isn't it? I mean, like you guys probably hungry. I don't mean that metaphorically either. I mean, like literally you grow up, you're hungry. There's not a bunch of free food everywhere you go. Every time you do a video shoot, there's not a big catering service. Everyone's not handing you food and booze all the time. I mean, it's kind of tough now, isn't it?

57:33 Pennywise Yeah, it's real tough.

57:34 Caller It's not tough. I revel in the free food and the free beer. I eat as much food as I can.

57:40 Adam You're just metabolism is able to gobble it up?

57:45 Caller Well, I know I look good, but I'm pretty fat.

57:47 Pennywise He's like, he's fat, skinny. We call him fat, skinny, bumpy, hairy.

57:51 Caller Fat, skinny, hairy, and zitty. But not really. I'm hot too.

57:56 Pennywise Byron can eat like 16 meals a day and not gain a pound. Our drummer, he was blessed with a high nervous metabolism, but I think it's affected his brain.

58:05 Adam You know it's funny though, and we all know those A-holes who just eat like maniacs and they never gain a pound, and that's fine. God bless them. God has dealt them a good hand. The only thing that gets annoying is when somebody who doesn't know them, asks them how they stay in such great shape and they start giving answers.

58:22 Pennywise Like Tyra Banks.

58:23 Adam You want to smack them over the head? Yeah, right. Supermodels do this all the time.

58:27 Pennywise I never work out of eat whatever I want and this is what you get. You know, a big voluptuous woman.

58:31 Right.

58:32 Pennywise Making like a million dollars a year.

58:34 Adam And then comes out with a video on how to get that way. Wayne?

58:37 Yes.

58:38 Adam You're 23?

58:39 Caller Good evening, everyone. How's everyone doing?

58:40 Adam Good.

58:41 Caller I just want to say, Adam, you're a goddamn pimp. I don't know if I can say it on the radio.

58:44 Adam All right. You can. Thanks.

58:46 Caller I can't?

58:47 Adam No, you can't. Go ahead.

58:48 Pennywise You just did.

58:49 Caller I was like, my question, maybe the band might even be able to help me since bands are known to get involved in certain things. I was looking to start a cocaine diet.

58:56 Adam All right.

58:57 Caller I'm about 6'2.5, 245, looking to drop down to about 180.

59:02 Drew Now, maybe the subway people can incorporate this into their...

59:05 Adam Maybe the zone people can start dropping Coke and Crank Off instead of that goddamn broiled chicken breast.

59:12 Caller I have a couple of friends that from time to time get into it. Whenever they do, they'll drop like 10, 15 pounds in a week.

59:17 Drew They want to get cancer or HIV. You'll be guaranteed to lose it.

59:21 Adam Yeah, you get AIDS, you'll lose it. Right?

59:23 Drew Yeah. It would be great.

59:24 Caller Something I could hopefully walk away from, I imagine. I have this real neck where I don't get addicted to things. And then I was also looking in the Internet and I ran across a couple websites on crystal meth. And I heard that that's even quicker and even cheaper than cocaine.

59:38 Adam Right.

59:38 Pennywise Sounds like a good idea.

59:39 Adam Yeah. Why are you asking us? Son, why aren't you on it already?

59:43 Caller No, it was a thing. What are you waiting for?

59:44 Pennywise I think the crystal meth diet is a little cheaper than the cocaine diet.

59:47 Caller Yeah, that's what I heard best. I heard it's more harmful to you, I guess.

59:52 Adam Well, it's cheaper and it's a little more harmful. But I'll tell you, you lose extra weight. I'll tell you, by picking on yourself, you actually pull skin and hair away from your body. And that adds up over the years.

1:00:05 Drew Right.

1:00:06 Caller Also, how long do each of those things stay in your system, for example, like if you had a drug test coming up eventually, for example, coke and crystal meth?

1:00:13 Drew Coke's out in about, certainly in six or eight hours, maybe 12 hours. The meth can be up to 24 hours.

1:00:20 Pennywise You should have lied to him and told him, like, six months.

1:00:22 Drew Well, the problem with amphetamine is that your brain, if brain effects go for six months, and the paranoia, the irritability, and even the memory problems, some of that's permanent.

1:00:31 Caller I'm not worried about that. I mean, the main thing is that the test will probably have to take one or two hours.

1:00:35 Drew So you're not worried about the brain damage that occurs?

1:00:36 Caller No, I'm not worried. Like I said, I can handle my business, you know?

1:00:39 Drew You're not worried about the brain damage that occurs?

1:00:41 Adam You can handle this business.

1:00:43 Caller I mean, it gives a lot of people, I think maybe there's a percentage of people that it does affect negatively. I mean, I wouldn't overdo it, I mean, I just, you know...

1:00:50 Pennywise Well, I have a feeling this guy's been doing meth for quite some time, actually. And the brain damage you might already have heard.

1:00:58 Caller I used to see a lot of girls, like in high school, they would do that to get thin, and then the minute they would stop, they would just blow right back up.

1:01:05 Drew And they'd switch over to something else, too.

1:01:07 Adam Hey, Wayne?

1:01:08 Caller Yes?

1:01:08 Adam What do you do for a living?

1:01:10 Caller I'm a writer.

1:01:11 Adam You're a writer? Well, what kind of drug testing do you need to take for writing?

1:01:15 Caller Well, I also do things with the government from time to time.

1:01:18 Adam Like what?

1:01:19 Caller I really shouldn't get into that.

1:01:21 Pennywise Really? He builds meth labs for them.

1:01:23 Caller No, no.

1:01:24 Adam Just a guinea pig is part of some drug experimentation program.

1:01:29 Drew After about three or four weeks of even twice a week amphetamine, sometimes there's a paranoia that can set in that's biological, and you'll begin to become preoccupied with people in your family, neighborhood, friends, co-workers, and those paranoias can be very destructive to those relationships.

1:01:42 Caller Would it help my writing possibly, too?

1:01:44 Pennywise You'll be able to stay up longer.

1:01:46 Adam What kind of writing do you do?

1:01:48 Caller I'm working on a couple screen plays and short stories, poems from time to time.

1:01:52 Drew Screen plays.

1:01:54 Adam Right. They'll never be sold.

1:01:55 Caller I guarantee you if they ever do make it, Adam, you'll love the movie.

1:01:59 Adam All right. I'm not holding my breath, Wayne.

1:02:01 Caller I'll call you when it gets through.

1:02:02 Adam Hey, Wayne. Yes. Really, don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like you're kind of hovering near the retard border as it is. You really, you really sound shaky and drugs may send you, you may be the mayor of Retardville if you really get into these drugs.

1:02:20 Caller I appreciate that.

1:02:21 Adam So why don't you just seriously eat a little more protein, take it easy on the carbs and get some exercise and, you know, save your brain. Yeah. You know, once in a while, well, not once in a while, every goddamn night on the show, we talk to those guys who you go, I know why women hate most men now. Wayne is one of those dudes. He's sort of fast talking, got all the answers. I don't mind guys who have all the answers. Just don't bother me. Don't ask the questions.

1:02:48 Pennywise And don't talk to women.

1:02:49 Adam And don't talk to anybody. Oh yeah. And it's always bad, by the way, having a few screenplays and a few projects going is bad. You'd be better off just saying I have one. I tend to believe you more. You know what I mean?

1:03:02 Drew Think how many millions of people fit that profile though.

1:03:05 Adam Yeah, they got a hole, but oh, a lot of irons in the fire. The problem is they got a lot of irons, no fire. That's the thing, we got 150 irons.

1:03:12 Caller We're writing a few albums right now.

1:03:13 Adam You guys are working on something else? Yeah, we got some projects we can do that, but we're going to get those things to go. I'll tell you what, screenplays. And then I like it too. Got some big stuff looming, can't talk about it. I can't talk about it because I don't know what it is. But when I do find out about it, I'll be able to talk about it.

1:03:28 Pennywise But I need to lose about 70 pounds.

1:03:30 Adam Yeah, it's going to help my writing.

1:03:32 Pennywise On meth.

1:03:32 Adam Yeah, this crank is going to be great. It's really going to, I got a sort of, I got Jim Morrison's soul living inside me.

1:03:40 Pennywise I got to unlock it. He's going to be at his target weight of 180 with like a hit movie. He's going to go see Adam. I told you that.

1:03:46 Adam That's right. I won't have to eat my words. All right. Let's hear something else from Pennywise if we could. Be cued up there Anderson. This one is called Divine Intervention.

1:07:26 Caller There you go.

1:07:28 Adam Land of the Freeze, the name of that. Out tomorrow or today, depending on what time it is, wherever you're listening. Pennywise is our guest. We're going to take ourselves a quick break. When we come back, we'll speak to Mara, who wants to know if she should tell her mom that her dad is probably gay. Mara? Mara? Mara?

1:07:48 Caller Yeah.

1:07:49 Adam How do you know this?

1:07:51 Caller Well, the other night, I was listening to the phone at like 11 or so. The phone was like making noise because it was like, on the phone.

1:08:00 Adam All right. Hold on a second, Screwball. Once in a while, I try to do some semi-quality radio by selling something before we go to break. It always blows up my face.

1:08:14 Pennywise Imagine the fact that I haven't cussed yet.

1:08:16 Adam Yes.

1:08:17 Drew Shocking.

1:08:19 Adam Redemption. All right, you screwballs. More crappy show after this.

1:08:24 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:08:25 Adam We'll be right back.

1:08:55 Caller Hi, I'm Rob Schneider, you're listening to Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on Loveline, my favorite show.

1:09:00 Caller You're doing it.

1:09:01 Adam Hey, everybody, it is Loveline. Pennywise is here tonight, Land of the Free is the name of the CD. Randy and Fletcher in the studio, Jim's gonna walk in in just a second. Everyone's got their fill of snacks, and let's go back and see if we can talk to Mara. Mara? Okay, don't use the F word.

1:09:26 Caller Sorry.

1:09:27 Adam All right. So, you think your dad is gay?

1:09:31 Caller Yeah, well, I mean, he could be bi or like, I don't know. But, um...

1:09:35 Adam What did you... You heard something on the phone?

1:09:39 Caller Yeah, he was like having phone sex.

1:09:41 Adam With a guy?

1:09:42 Caller Yeah, he's done it like seven times in the past couple of weeks.

1:09:45 Adam And what happens? You pick up the phone and listen in?

1:09:49 Caller No, like, yeah, I heard...

1:09:50 Caller I freaked out and like hung up.

1:09:52 Adam But you did it seven times?

1:09:55 Caller No, like, when someone calls out, like, my phone makes a noise and like I can tell someone's calling out and like... It's just weird, someone's calling out at like midnight.

1:10:04 Drew And so you pick the phone up and listen to what he's saying?

1:10:06 Caller Yeah, and he's always calling like guys and...

1:10:09 Adam Now get ready for hot horny studs. So, and he's talking to some guy and having phone sex?

1:10:16 Caller Yeah.

1:10:17 Adam And how much of it do you listen to?

1:10:19 Caller No, I just listen to like the...

1:10:21 Adam Stop saying no every time, by the way. You're telling us what's going on. I'm basically just repeating it back to you.

1:10:28 Caller Yeah, he...

1:10:31 Caller I don't know, until he starts like pissing me off, I don't know.

1:10:35 Drew Until he says something that pisses you off?

1:10:37 Caller Yeah, there was a fact that he was having phone sex with a guy.

1:10:40 Adam Yeah.

1:10:41 Drew Well, I would think that would sort of repel you at the beginning. You'd hang up immediately. How long do you listen? What do you listen to?

1:10:46 Caller I don't know, because I wasn't... Well, the first time I was confused because I was like...

1:10:51 Adam Oh, all right. Listen, Mara, man, I can hear it in her voice.

1:10:57 Drew Talk to somebody.

1:10:58 Adam She's 15. I feel very bad for you. I'm sorry about your family, but I'm mad at you at the same time and hanging up on you because you've now worked the F word in casually. I'll give her that. Two times in the 45 seconds we've spoken to her. So talk to a counselor. Don't have sex. Don't get pregnant. Don't get strung out on drugs.

1:11:20 Drew She could talk to the mom, I suppose. Or you could talk to the dad. I heard this. It bothers me.

1:11:23 Adam Yeah, but think about the dad.

1:11:25 Drew I know.

1:11:26 Adam And think about how...

1:11:27 Pennywise Maybe the mom and dad are having a great relationship.

1:11:30 Drew Yeah, maybe not her business.

1:11:32 Pennywise Maybe it's not a good thing to bring up.

1:11:34 Drew But it's bothering her, so she ought to talk to somebody about it.

1:11:37 Adam I'll tell you, my impulse with my parents was try not to talk to them about anything.

1:11:42 Drew What would your impulse do with your credo?

1:11:46 Adam You're right. It was more of a way of life than it was just a passing impulse.

1:11:51 Drew You can translate that into how you deal with everyone now.

1:11:53 Adam I don't even... If I knew your name, I'd be yelling at you right now. That's right. I know. But seriously, you guys, we talk to these people all the time. They want to call their dad out to the carpet about something. They want to confront their mom because they were going through the drawer and they found a dildo in there or they found a joint or a roach or something in the garage. Just look, go to school, get your grades up and go far away to college and just write them off, do your own thing, start a band, get good at some sport, hang out with your clique, whatever it is, don't get pregnant, don't get freaked out on drugs, but just if your parents are screw ups, realize it, do your own thing outside of the house. Rick? You're 23?

1:12:35 Caller That's correct.

1:12:36 Adam What's up?

1:12:37 Caller Well, I was calling concerning the long-term physiological effects of speed, particularly on my ex-girlfriend, and I was wondering what kind of residual effects speed would have on the body after the person hasn't been doing it for about two to three years.

1:12:53 Adam What do you notice on her?

1:12:55 Caller Well, nothing really. She seems to be fine except for the fact that she coughs a lot, but she said that she's had three different kinds of cancer, as long as I've known her. She's had leukemia, something wrong with the bone marrow, and then thyroid cancer.

1:13:09 Drew And is that true?

1:13:12 Caller I don't think so. I've talked to a few oncologists at the local hospital, and they can't seem to tell me anything that would make me believe that she has cancer or anything, but I'm trying to figure out the speed that she used to do when she was in high school would give her symptoms much like that.

1:13:26 Drew Well, all the weight loss and stuff. But you know, if she is not in recovery, she's doing some other drugs still.

1:13:31 Caller Really?

1:13:32 Drew Yeah, she knows something.

1:13:33 Caller Yeah, because, I don't know, she's a piece of work. She lies about, I'm thinking lies about this, is doing something else or whatnot.

1:13:40 Adam Yeah. Rick, let me explain the whole boyfriend, girlfriend thing to you. A lot of people treat it is, hold on, shut that door. Would you there, Drew? A lot of people treat it as though, God reached into a big hopper, pulled out a ping pong ball with your name on it, then one with her name on it, and now you guys are joined at the hip for the next 30 years. You're 23, you've got a girlfriend that's a handful, she's a screw up, she's lying, allegedly. Why don't you just move on? Why are you hanging out trying to figure her out?

1:14:12 Caller I think because I care about her.

1:14:15 Drew But I love her.

1:14:15 Pennywise That's a good reason.

1:14:17 Adam But she doesn't, I know this sounds such, right, but she doesn't care about herself. I mean, why are you there picking up the pieces?

1:14:24 Caller I don't know, it's just kind of what I've been doing. I've been protecting my family for a long time and it's just...

1:14:28 Drew There you go. So you've been the caretaker of your parents, right?

1:14:32 Caller Yeah, well my mom mostly. I had an abuse of stepfather for about ten years.

1:14:36 Drew Well, you picked up another project here to protect and take care of and that's the only thing that will work for you in a relationship. You've successfully found that. But you're not a doctor and you're not in a position to make diagnoses and this sounds like there's something really substantial going on here psychiatrically. And just make sure she gets proper care. That's all you can do.

1:14:54 Adam Why don't you, as far as a project goes, why don't you get like an old El Camino and put it up on blocks and do something healthy.

1:15:01 Caller I've actually got a 71 Nova I'm putting back together right now.

1:15:04 Adam Oh, you do?

1:15:05 Caller Yes, I do.

1:15:06 Adam All right. Well, there you go.

1:15:07 Pennywise He's a workaholic.

1:15:08 Caller Take care of that. I'd like to say, Drew, Adam, you guys are awesome. I've been listening to the show for about nine years now and you guys got a great thing going on there. Adam, you're hilarious and the man show rules.

1:15:18 Adam Oh, thanks.

1:15:19 Drew All right. But, Rick, you're 14. You learned something about co-dependency in those nine years. Come on now.

1:15:24 Adam Well, he's working on a Nova.

1:15:25 Drew Kind of a break.

1:15:27 Adam What kind of engine are you putting in that thing?

1:15:29 Caller She's got a 350 with a Crane 274 cam, got a Edelbrock performer intake, Holley 650 carb and three-inch hooker exhaust.

1:15:37 Adam Sweet. You got the double pumper on there?

1:15:43 Caller Vacuum secondary is the only double pumper takes too much gas.

1:15:47 Adam What kind of compression you're running, Rick?

1:15:49 Caller She is 10 to 1.

1:15:51 Adam 10 to 1. She. Yeah.

1:15:52 Pennywise See, it's another girl project.

1:15:54 Adam That's right. Interesting.

1:15:56 Caller You guys rock.

1:15:58 Adam All right. Now you've won the ban over.

1:15:59 Caller All right. All right, Rick.

1:16:01 Adam Good luck with her and her.

1:16:02 Caller All right.

1:16:03 Adam All right. Let's talk to Mike who's 18.

1:16:08 Caller Hello.

1:16:08 Adam Hey, what's up?

1:16:10 Caller Hey, guys. Dr. Drew, Adam, you guys are awesome.

1:16:13 Adam Well, thanks.

1:16:13 Drew What's up, Mike?

1:16:14 Caller You are the man. Pennywise, you guys are great, too. Thank you. Anyway, let's talk about me. I'm 18 and I'm addicted to alcohol and heroin right now. And it's to the point where I can't function unless I'm either really drunk or I'm shooting up. And I'm scared because it's all I do. And I'm like, I don't know what to do.

1:16:41 Drew You haven't sought out treatment?

1:16:46 Caller I'm trying to. I went to the emergency room.

1:16:50 Drew No, no. You're going to need to spend about six months somewhere.

1:16:54 Adam Six months, really? Couldn't do it in three?

1:16:56 Drew Possibly. But usually six is a much higher rate.

1:16:59 Pennywise If he's 18 and he's already strung out, it's going to take more than three.

1:17:02 Drew Yeah, I would think.

1:17:03 Adam What do you mean function, by the way? I mean like your job and stuff?

1:17:08 Drew Just getting up and eating and dealing with their life.

1:17:10 Caller I cannot get up. I can't eat and I can't even get out of bed if I wanted to.

1:17:14 Pennywise Do you want to get sober?

1:17:16 Caller Yeah.

1:17:18 Pennywise Then you got to get help.

1:17:20 Adam Does heroin let you eat?

1:17:22 Drew Well, if you're kicking, you're sick.

1:17:24 Caller Yeah, I tried to quit.

1:17:25 Drew And the alcohol can suppress some of the withdrawal, so he's probably going back and forth between the heroin and the alcohol.

1:17:29 Caller I tried to quit heroin a couple weeks ago and I just got really, really sick.

1:17:34 Drew Yeah, and again, the kicking part is not a big deal. It only takes about five to seven days. You need to be somewhere to do that and it can be made reasonably comfortable. But the staying off part is what takes all the time, doing the work of recovery. You got to do it. There's no easy way. I wish there were. If there were, I'd certainly steer you in that direction.

1:17:51 Pennywise Have you tried to get into any programs?

1:17:55 Caller I started going to Narcotics Anonymous at my church and stuff.

1:18:00 Pennywise You need to go through a detox, though.

1:18:01 Caller Yeah, I do. And I don't know how to go about that without, like, you know, I don't want to be like, I want to cause trouble for anyone that's like related to me or anything. So I don't know what I can do.

1:18:11 Pennywise You live with your parents, though?

1:18:13 Caller No, I live by myself. But, you know, I don't know how I can, I have a girlfriend and stuff, and my family's close by, and I don't want them to have to get involved.

1:18:22 Adam What are you doing for money?

1:18:23 Caller I'm a waiter. I wait tables.

1:18:26 Drew They need to get involved, Mike. They do. It's important. Everyone important in your life needs to be part of this process. But you might look into maybe a sober living that will also do detoxing for you, something like that.

1:18:36 Pennywise There's a place in Long Beach called Red Gate.

1:18:39 Drew They're in Annapolis, Maryland, though. Yeah, I'm in Maryland. That's a short commute. Red Gate is a great program, by the way.

1:18:46 Pennywise Okay, so. That's a little far. I'm sorry.

1:18:49 Caller Yeah, it's like 2.30 here in the morning.

1:18:52 Adam Hey, Mike, I mean, the good news is, is that, you know, you're 18 and you're already looking into getting sober. And like, it sounds like a cliché, but you got your whole life ahead of you. So, you should just get yourself straightened out now. And then you can look forward to that.

1:19:10 Pennywise It's not going to get better. It's going to get worse. So, you better start now. Randy could talk about this.

1:19:16 Caller Yeah, Randy used to be a part of it.

1:19:19 Adam What was your drug of choice, Randy?

1:19:20 Caller Pretty much everything that I could get at any time, just whatever was good. But pretty much, I went through the same situation. I used to do that. And then, you know, when I was 23, I just decided that, hey, I'm still here, so I better make the most of it. And I think once you decide you want to do it, there's plenty of ways to get help. You go to meetings and you take it seriously and you just do what they ask you to do and you stay on course.

1:19:45 Drew That's the key thing is I find people doing what they ask you to do part. How do you get somebody to that point?

1:19:51 Caller He just broke down.

1:19:53 Drew I mean, how would you get Mike to get that, to get that he's got to follow directions, even your direction tonight?

1:19:58 Caller He can, I mean, pretty much he's calling here, so he knows he's got a problem. It's just all a matter of what's going to make him more comfortable. Is he going to be more comfortable? Does he have the means to keep doing this for a while or does he have nothing? I had nothing. I was living on my friend's couches for a while and you get to a point where there's only one direction to go. And I would just say that he knows, he can use his brain and just know that he does have a problem and avoid this, because really, Fletcher's right, it can only get worse. So to just learn from other people's mistakes and try to just get on the path of being part of the solution instead of being part of the problem.

1:20:40 Drew That point is no matter how bad you want to start, no matter how bad you try, it will still get worse without treatment.

1:20:45 Pennywise Yeah, if you don't get some help now, it's definitely a road to nowhere.

1:20:50 Caller Yeah, there's like two ways you can go. You know, there's jail, death, or death. And we know a lot of people that have gone the opposite way and they've cleaned themselves up like Randy and like a lot of our friends who are so much happier now and lead really fulfilling lives and are in a better place now. And I'm sure you can get there, too, especially if you did call in. So that's a good first step.

1:21:15 Pennywise Yeah, you're sitting here telling us that you're not happy where you're at. So the only way to get out of that rut is to take action and you have the power to change and do it.

1:21:25 Caller And one more thing, just remember that if you're afraid to give it up and everything like that, you can always think to yourself, it's always there for you if you want it. So that's something that you know you can keep on going ahead. And it's not like, you know, you can always have that old life if you want it, you know, but it's going to, anything you do, clean it sober is going to be way better than anything you could do.

1:21:45 Pennywise Get sober for a year and if you hate it so much, then go back to using.

1:21:49 Adam All right, Mike.

1:21:50 Caller Thanks, Gus.

1:21:51 Adam You know what you got to do. Good luck.

1:21:53 Caller Thanks.

1:21:53 Adam All right. Pennywise is here. We'll take a break. We'll be back.

1:21:59 Caller 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:22:01 Adam We'll be right back. Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Drew. Fletcher, Jim and Randy are all here from Pennywise. Land of the Free is the name of the CD. Out tomorrow and speaking of tomorrow, you can find them at the House of Blues tomorrow at 3 o'clock. You can get those wristbands at the Tower on Sunset if you're out here in Los Angeles, starting at 9 a.m. and then get yourself in across the street practically over at the House of Blues. 311 tomorrow night. We haven't seen those guys in a little while, have we, Drew?

1:23:03 Drew Last, the Christmas before last?

1:23:05 Adam I don't know. Anyway, good guys, so we'll see them and then some 41 will be in here on Thursday. And let's get back to the phones and talk to Fernando. Fernando?

1:23:15 Caller Yes.

1:23:16 Adam What's up?

1:23:16 Caller First of all, I gotta say that you are a funny genius. Dr. Drew, you are of help to people.

1:23:22 Adam Thank you.

1:23:23 Caller You're also cool and Pennywise, you rock. And I'm going to see you tomorrow.

1:23:27 Pennywise Thank you.

1:23:28 Caller And well, the reason I was calling was that I think that the guy, the gay guy who had sex at the age of, I don't know, when he was young.

1:23:40 Adam He was molested, right?

1:23:41 Caller Yeah, it was that because he had anal sex with that little girl because he probably didn't know that he was supposed to do it front to front. Because when I was little, I had sex with that little girl because I mean I had anal sex with her because I didn't know that I was supposed to do it front to front.

1:24:02 Adam Sure, you're how old were you?

1:24:04 Caller I was nine.

1:24:05 Adam Sure, yeah, you don't know that stuff when you're nine. You think life's one big but when you're nine. So I looked at life. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I thought the mouth was the anus too when I was nine. I thought a BJ was anal sex. I didn't know better.

1:24:19 Caller Yeah, I mean, it took me like two years to realize that it was better doing front to front.

1:24:24 Adam Sure. Right. Where are you? Are you calling from North Hollywood?

1:24:28 Caller Yeah. I heard you used to live here.

1:24:31 Adam Oh, yes. My whole goddamn miserable life. I lived in that dump known as North Hollywood. And my stupid family is still there.

1:24:38 Caller Yeah.

1:24:39 Adam Their self-esteem is too low to move.

1:24:42 Caller Yeah. Yeah. I want to move out.

1:24:45 Adam Yeah, you should.

1:24:46 Caller Yeah, I live with Christian people.

1:24:47 Adam Oh, no. Well, there's no Jews in North Hollywood.

1:24:52 Caller No, I don't know.

1:24:53 Adam No Jew in his right mind would live in that place.

1:24:56 Caller Yeah.

1:24:56 Adam Where in North Hollywood do you live?

1:24:58 Caller I live in Lankersham, the hanga around that.

1:25:03 Adam Oh. It just gets worse. Wow. Yeah. And that is known as Satan's Hub, by the way, of North Hollywood.

1:25:11 Caller Really?

1:25:12 Adam Yeah. Lankersham, what cross street are you looking at?

1:25:16 Caller Lamp Avenue.

1:25:17 Adam Oh, yeah. That's bad. You're right. Why don't you take a vacation and go to Beirut?

1:25:24 Drew Is the Christian group helping you?

1:25:27 Caller Actually, no. I don't really go to church because I hate everybody in there.

1:25:32 Adam I see.

1:25:33 Caller Yeah.

1:25:33 Adam Well, it's worked nicely on you. I can see that. And are you gay?

1:25:38 Caller No, I'm not gay. No. I'm pretty straight.

1:25:41 Adam And who are these people, these Christians you're living with?

1:25:43 Drew Pretty straight.

1:25:44 Caller They are actually my mother and my stepfather.

1:25:48 Adam Oh, I see. It's funny that you just call your parents these Christian people. I picture them as like missionaries, but they're really your parents.

1:25:56 Caller Yeah. I mean, I don't call them. I call them by their first name because I didn't live with my mom until I was... I mean, I just came back with her because she left me when I was like six.

1:26:12 Adam All right. Fernando, though, you're 19 now, right?

1:26:15 Caller Yeah, I'm 19.

1:26:16 Adam So it's time for you to move out.

1:26:17 Caller Yeah. I should definitely do that.

1:26:20 Adam Yeah.

1:26:20 Caller Yeah.

1:26:21 Adam Why don't you do it? You got any buddies?

1:26:23 Caller Actually, no. I don't have any friends.

1:26:25 Adam Why not?

1:26:27 Caller I don't know. I can't talk really that much.

1:26:30 Drew What do you mean?

1:26:31 Adam What are you talking about?

1:26:32 Pennywise You're talking now.

1:26:33 Adam Yeah.

1:26:34 Caller Yeah. I'm talking now, but I don't usually talk.

1:26:36 Pennywise Why?

1:26:37 Caller I don't know. I just feel alone. I don't know.

1:26:41 Adam Well, do you work?

1:26:44 Caller Yes. Taco Bell.

1:26:46 Adam Really?

1:26:47 Caller Yeah. I mean, I just quit like yesterday.

1:26:50 Adam Why?

1:26:51 Caller There wasn't enough work.

1:26:54 Adam Right.

1:26:54 Caller Yeah.

1:26:56 Adam And you're looking. Here's what you got to do, Fernando. You got to get a job. You got to get a job that you like.

1:27:02 Caller A real job. A real job. I was just working like two to three hours a week.

1:27:08 Adam So it's ironic. I know. I used to work at McDonald's. I worked there like, I don't know, like 11 hours a week. And it's funny. You're getting minimum wage and they're taking taxes out and you're working like under 20 hours a week. So you get this paycheck for like $37.50. Every two weeks. It's like a novelty paycheck. I don't even know what that has to do with it.

1:27:31 Pennywise You frame that one.

1:27:31 Adam You frame it, right.

1:27:33 Caller My stepfather.

1:27:34 Adam Yeah.

1:27:34 Caller He worked in construction also.

1:27:37 Pennywise Are you going to go to the show tomorrow, Fernando?

1:27:39 Caller Yeah, I'm going there.

1:27:40 Pennywise You can come down early and you can hang out with us and we can talk.

1:27:43 Caller I would love that.

1:27:44 Pennywise Come down around noon. Go to House of Blues at around 12 o'clock.

1:27:47 Caller Okay, thanks a lot, guys.

1:27:49 Adam Fernando will be the guy without anybody. Anybody is with him?

1:27:52 Caller Yeah, I'm going to be along.

1:27:53 Adam All right. Fernando?

1:27:55 Caller Yeah.

1:27:55 Adam Look, I know your life hasn't gone well for you so far, right? I mean, it's been a tough life, but you know what?

1:28:02 Drew You have a lot of time.

1:28:03 Adam You do. I mean, my life sucked. I lived in North Hollywood. I hated my stepdad and I didn't have a good gig when I was 19 either. I was cleaning carpets for Christ's sake. You just go out and find something to sink your teeth into, but you've got to have friends. And I say this all the time on this show, but especially you guys who are down on your luck, who have a holes for parents and all that kind of stuff. I mean, I got two good friends and we moved into a one bedroom in North Hollywood and we were miserable, but we were together and we had some good times and scraped some resins and you know. I mean, they will get you through the times. You either got to have family or you got to have friends. And if you don't have family, then your friends are your family. But you got to have that. I mean, think about where you guys would be or where you'd be now if you didn't have your buddies.

1:28:52 Pennywise Jim had a good line the other day and it's been used before. You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends.

1:28:58 Adam And yeah, please, Roberto. Let's talk to, oh, I'm sorry, Fernando. Let's talk to Amy. Amy?

1:29:07 Caller Hi.

1:29:08 Adam What's up?

1:29:09 Caller I just wanted to talk to the guy that called in about losing weight on speed. I did that probably about 10 years ago. And you do lose weight really fast on it, but the emotional and the mind games that happen to your head are so not worth it. And I just want, I'm hoping he's listening still because it desensitized everything that I felt. I'm a very emotional person and I'm really nervous right now. And I'm really passionate about things, but I didn't care about any of my relationships. I didn't care about anyone or anything on it. And if he wants to lose weight on that, you have to continuously use it.

1:29:53 Adam Plus people, people act like if once they lose 30 lbs. or 50 lbs. it'll never come back.

1:29:59 Caller Oh, it comes right back really fast.

1:30:01 Adam Yeah, or you do speed for the rest of your life. But it doesn't sound like a great strategy from a math standpoint.

1:30:08 Caller My husband and I have been married for 10 years. And when he did it, I mean, he threatened to kill people.

1:30:13 Caller Right, that's the paranoia that's being spewed.

1:30:16 Caller I had friends that, I had one friend who stayed in his house for a week because he thought somebody was trying to shoot him through the window. I mean, it's so, so not worth it. And I hope he's listening so that he knows. It's not worth it. You hallucinate after being up for three or four days. It's so hard on your body and it's so not worth it. Also, the night before my 21st birthday, I nearly overdosed. And not from a large amount. I think I did two lines and it was from a, our source was a friend of ours that lived in the complex that we lived in. And it happened to be a bad batch. And I nearly died on it. So I just hope he's listening and I hope that he finds another way.

1:30:59 Drew All right, Amy. Thanks.

1:31:00 Adam Thanks, Amy. All right. Let's talk to Lisa's 20. Lisa, what's up?

1:31:07 Caller I had a question.

1:31:08 Caller I've been with the same guy for a little over three years now. We just got married in April and I haven't had an orgasm for about two and a half years.

1:31:18 Drew So in the beginning, you were able to have them?

1:31:21 Caller Yes.

1:31:21 Drew With him?

1:31:22 Caller Well, not often, but it's been two and a half years.

1:31:26 Drew How was he able to do it in the good old days?

1:31:28 Caller I think I maybe had one or two.

1:31:30 Drew How was he able to pull that off?

1:31:31 Caller I have no idea.

1:31:33 Adam Anything, is he doing something different now?

1:31:35 Caller No, it wasn't anything special. It wasn't a big deal.

1:31:39 Caller It wasn't like we were doing some weird, wild, crazy things.

1:31:42 Drew Well, if the novelty stuff wears off, then the guy will start doing his work.

1:31:45 Adam Are you faking it now?

1:31:46 Caller No.

1:31:47 Adam So he knows you're... He knows.

1:31:49 Caller Yeah, we talk about it very openly, and we're both very frustrated about it.

1:31:53 Drew What's he trying to do to make it go? Maybe good.

1:31:57 Caller We've almost kind of run out of... I can't really think of anything else. We just kind of run through the same old...

1:32:03 Adam Yeah, he's doing the oral sex.

1:32:05 Caller Yeah, he's moved down on me. I kind of sometimes don't lubricate myself.

1:32:11 Adam How about a vibrator?

1:32:16 Caller I've never used one. I would feel...

1:32:18 Drew That's your next...

1:32:20 Adam Well, listen...

1:32:21 Caller That'll be a success story.

1:32:23 Adam Desperate measures for desperate times. I mean, Lisa, you haven't thought about it, but it's been two and a half years you guys have been going at it, trying to lubricate and figure things out.

1:32:31 Drew The fact that she's not arousing, hasn't thought about it, there's something more going on here.

1:32:36 Adam Lisa?

1:32:37 Caller Yes.

1:32:37 Adam You still in love with this guy?

1:32:39 Caller Oh, yes.

1:32:39 Caller We just got married two months ago.

1:32:41 Adam Well, listen, people get married all the time, they're not in love. Go get a vibrator.

1:32:46 Pennywise Dr. Drew wants to take you back to childhood.

1:32:48 Drew I'm thinking about it.

1:32:49 Adam That's right.

1:32:50 Pennywise He's going there.

1:32:50 Adam In the next five seconds. Lisa, we got to go to break. Go get a vibrator or quit complaining. All right? It's one or the other.

1:33:00 Caller This is your radio. Loveline will be right back.

1:33:38 Adam All right, everybody, that is it. I want to thank Pennywise for coming in here, Land of the Free, name of the CD. Go out and get that. It is out tomorrow, or actually today, since it's after twelve. Guys, a beautiful reunion.

1:33:51 Caller Thank you.

1:33:52 Pennywise Very uneventful, but beautiful.

1:33:54 Adam Thank you.

1:33:55 Pennywise And I noticed, I was a little disappointed that the trophy wasn't in the corner.

1:33:59 Caller It started to stink, I bet.

1:34:01 Adam The vomit cup trophy.

1:34:03 Pennywise I think the vomit was leaking out of the bottom. I didn't take that into consideration.

1:34:07 Adam Alright, enjoy a little vintage Pennywise and until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:34:13 Caller Okay, go ahead.

1:34:15 Caller That's fine. I mean, I was just wondering, like, what's the...

1:34:32 Caller Loveline is over.

1:34:33 Caller I'm pretty much currently...

1:34:39 Caller Okay, bye.

1:34:41 Caller Yes, Loveline is over. It's not our fault. We have a big, ugly man in our guitar band.

1:34:54 Caller Are we on air?

1:35:04 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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