Episode 1000754886884

4:37 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.

4:48 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla.

4:50 That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Internist, Addiction Medicine Specialist. Pete Yorn is our guest tonight. Pete and company.

5:05 Adam We haven't quite figured it out yet, but we're gonna sort it out and he'll be in here during the, before the next break, or right after the first break, I should say. And we'll get to the bottom of the whole thing and give you some dates and places where you can find Pete and hear stuff off his CD and all that good stuff. All right, Drew.

5:23 Drew So, you're gonna abuse me.

5:25 Adam No, no.

5:25 Drew You promised me.

5:26 Adam Did I?

5:26 Drew Yeah.

5:27 Adam I went to Drew's house last night for his 70th birthday party.

5:31 Drew 72nd.

5:32 Adam 72nd birthday party. It was an enjoyable time.

5:37 Happy birthday to you.

5:41 Adam Had a cake instead of pie.

5:43 Drew Ooh.

5:44 Adam Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. It was a good cake.

5:49 Drew It was good.

5:50 Adam Yeah, it was a delicious cake. The food was good. The kids were in great spirits. Had a good time with them jumping up and down in the novelty size inflatable castle. Oh, what don't those kids have?

6:03 Drew I know.

6:04 Adam It must be great. You know, you know the great thing about being a kid of a rich family? And I consider you rich, which is you don't want to be distracted by the kids, but you can't make them disappear. So you throw some money at them. Do you know what I'm saying? I'll get you the big inflatable jump across and that'll keep you busy and the grownups will go over here and sit down and drink some wine. Do you know what I mean? That sort of kept busy money.

6:31 Drew But that's what parents do, period, is they keep the kids busy and they...

6:34 Adam Yeah, but here's the difference. If you don't have money and there's going to be a bunch of kids running around, basically gnats buzzing around the party, sort of screwing the grownup fun up.

6:47 Drew I see.

6:47 Adam It's basically like, look, here's a paddle, here's a ball, or here's a stick, here's some tinfoil, sit in your room. Here's a black and white TV. Don't move. Then the kids end up just sort of hanging around and the parents yelling at him the whole time, Timmy, daddy's talking. They're like yanking on him. It's smart though. You throw a few bucks toward the big inflatable castle, the kids jump their ass off the whole time. You hire a couple of wranglers, send dominoes over with a couple of pizzas and all is taken care of.

7:17 Drew Everybody's happy.

7:18 Adam Yeah, there was, what was there, 10 or 12 kids there?

7:21 Drew There was like 17 kids.

7:22 Adam 17 kids at Drew's party. Never knew it. I mean, unless you went into the kid area. You put them off on their side of the thing, get a couple Latino chicks to wrangle them around, stuff some pizza up their nose, and they jump around in that big thing.

7:36 Drew But I thought you were going to be using them at the Pasadena's finest visit. I broke the Carolla Cardinal Rule.

7:44 Adam Any, oh, Drew, I cannot believe you had the temerity to call the cops while I was in your presence.

7:50 Drew Yeah, I know.

7:51 Adam I have sat on this show on about 300 occasions and said I don't want people using the cops for nonsense, only crisis situations. I don't want them calling the cops because a cat's in the tree or because their old lady's cussing them out or because they thought they heard something out in the bushes.

8:10 Drew You had forgotten you were going to abuse me about this?

8:13 Adam I would have gotten to it. Don't worry.

8:15 Drew I said the East Police will come.

8:16 Adam There was a... we were all sitting outside at Drew's house enjoying ourselves poolside last night about 9.30 in the evening and a giant big boom noise came. It sounded to me like a skyrocket that flew up and blew up at about 200 feet and it happened sort of on the other side of the hill, not too far away but not too close. And it sounded like it came from up in the air, like not a sonic boom but like fireworks. Someone shot something into the air and it exploded. Alright, yeah, everyone heard it, everyone looked around, everyone assumed somebody lit an M80 off a quarter mile away or down the block or something. Drew called the cops.

8:57 Drew Now wait a minute, I was at a different table than you.

8:59 Adam You called the cops, you pussy.

9:01 Drew First of all, we have a nutty neighbor. Hey.

9:04 Adam Who does what?

9:05 Drew Who does weird stuff, yells at us and things and screams at this television carriage.

9:09 Adam So he lights an M80 off in his yard.

9:11 Drew B, at my table, first person pipes up and says, that's a 45. I guarantee that's a 45. Another person goes, that was definitely a guy. I thought, well, do you guys want me to call police?

9:22 Adam Oh, you don't ask. Do you guys want me to call the police?

9:26 Drew When I called, I said, I just let you know. You don't have to come out.

9:29 Adam No, true. Call in the cops because some guy lights an M-80 off a quarter mile away.

9:37 Drew It worked out okay, didn't it?

9:38 Adam Cops come up. There's another cruiser in the driveway. Listen, the cops love this stuff because here's something. They can go up to a nice neighborhood, schmooze around, maybe grab a soda or beer and some finger food and not get shot at. I understand why they're on top of this.

9:54 Drew They were very excited to meet you.

9:56 Adam They were. I wish it was under different circumstances. Drew, and as I told the cops, I want you to charge Drew, fine him. Yeah, that's like a $300 fence.

10:08 Drew They're coming over here to watch the show.

10:09 Adam Fine. But Jesus Christ, Drew calling the cops, someone let a firecracker off.

10:15 Drew Japanse.

10:16 Adam What are you thinking? What's going on with you emotionally? What's your fantasy? What do you think is going on? And look, those people you hang out with, they go right to the worst case scenario. It's a black person with a gun. That's what they're picturing in their minds. They're all racist. Drew's friends, racist. A lot of clan members over there.

10:36 Drew Yeah, that's what it was.

10:38 Adam All right. So anyway, a delightful time.

10:40 Drew Thank you.

10:41 Adam And let's give it another year for... And this is going to be a full year till the next birthday, right?

10:47 Drew I think so, yeah.

10:48 Adam Yeah, so a very enjoyable time. I'll tell you the other thing I don't need, though.

10:51 Drew Oh, gosh.

10:52 Adam The guy who cooked all the food...

10:54 Drew Yeah...

10:54 Adam .sat at my table...

10:55 Drew Yeah...

10:56 Adam .and every fourth bite was like, huh, huh, what do you think? What do you think? And I'm like, boy, I've never had salad before. Huh, what do you think? I'm like, okay, you're going to have some more? I'm like, buddy, I can't operate under this kind of pressure. The food's fine, but please, don't lean on me for a compliment every third chew.

11:18 Drew Come on.

11:18 Adam Do you know what I'm talking about?

11:19 Drew I didn't notice him doing that.

11:20 Adam Good food. Don't invite the guy who cooked the food over to the party. No, he cannot be your best friend. What do you think?

11:28 Drew He's impressed with you.

11:29 Adam Did you try the veal? Try that veal. Yeah, I ate half a cow. Try the chicken. You tried the chicken? It's too much pressure to eat with the guy who cooked it staring at you like a fat Italian mother the whole time. I was scared not to eat something.

11:42 Drew It's good for you.

11:43 Adam Got a hold like a chicken bone. I was scared to spit it out. I swallowed. Just crushed it in my teeth and swallowed it. I had to pass that this morning. Put a lot of pressure on me, that guy. Nick, you're 15? Yeah. What's up?

11:56 Caller Well, I'm uncircumcised.

11:59 Adam All right.

11:59 Caller Foreskin on my... Yeah, the foreskin is too tight and when I'm erect, I can't get the head out.

12:06 Drew Right.

12:07 Adam Bad times.

12:07 Drew Yeah. That's one of the reasons that one of the conveniences of circumcision is not having that stenosis occur, that narrowing. You might be able to stretch it back out again, but oftentimes, that is an indication for circumcision. What's the name of it? What's that?

12:21 Caller What's the name of it?

12:22 Drew Stenosis.

12:23 Caller Stenosis?

12:23 Drew It's the narrowing of the skin or various other things. Phimosis.

12:27 Caller All right. And one more quick question.

12:28 Adam Yeah. Nick, you smoke a lot of weed?

12:30 Caller No, not at all.

12:31 Adam Really?

12:31 Caller Yeah.

12:32 Adam Okay. You're done with your penis? You're not interested in it any longer?

12:37 Caller Oh, no. Oh, I love it. Okay.

12:39 Adam But don't you want to sort of work that skin out a little bit so you can get the head of your penis through your foreskin when you have an erection?

12:46 Caller Oh, yeah, of course. I don't need the weed for that, do I?

12:49 Drew No, here's the deal. You don't have this problem.

12:51 Adam Yeah, you don't, Nick.

12:52 Drew Yeah, you're just BSing because anyone has a problem. No, anyone with a problem wants a lot more detail about it.

12:57 Caller All right. Well, on the bottom of it, it's really tight. So when I pull the skin back, it hurts.

13:02 Drew Oh, okay. Well, it's different. So you may be getting some narrowing. As you get more and more tearing down there, it can start to narrow even further.

13:08 Adam Drew, can't you put some, you know, a little glove oil on that thing or some mink oil?

13:13 Drew Yeah, mink oil, yeah.

13:14 Adam Work it up.

13:15 Drew You can stretch it.

13:15 Adam I mean, is there, it seems like you could work that out a little bit, a little cocoa butter or something, keep it moist and pliable.

13:21 Drew The problem is if you tear it, it scars down.

13:24 Caller So just like stretch it out daily.

13:26 Adam Yeah.

13:27 Caller Basically.

13:27 Adam Yeah. That's what I'd say. Lubrication. All right, Nick.

13:30 Caller All right. Thanks a lot, guys.

13:31 Adam Hey, good times, buddy.

13:32 Caller Yeah, good.

13:33 Adam Good times. Stephen?

13:36 Caller Hi.

13:36 Adam You're 15?

13:37 Caller Yeah.

13:37 Adam Yeah. Something's up with your balls?

13:39 Caller Yeah.

13:39 Adam What's up?

13:40 Caller I just have a lot of pain down there. I've had it for like a couple of days now.

13:45 Caller And it's, I haven't gotten kicked or anything there.

13:48 Caller It's just, it's just been stinging for some reason.

13:50 Drew It's just what? Stinging?

13:51 Caller It's like a throbbing type of pain.

13:54 Something's wrong with his testicle.

13:55 Drew And why weren't you airlifted to help?

13:58 Well, I just, I kept quiet about it.

14:00 Caller I didn't think it was that serious at first, though. I just haven't been doing anything about it.

14:04 Drew Does the pain get up into your abdomen at all?

14:06 Caller No, it's just, it's just staying down in the scrotum area.

14:09 Drew Is it both sides?

14:10 Caller Yeah.

14:11 Drew Both sides?

14:12 Caller Hmm.

14:12 Adam And no trauma?

14:14 Caller No.

14:14 Drew Is it swelling?

14:15 Caller Uh, I, no, it just looks regular from here.

14:18 Drew From his vantage point.

14:20 Adam How far away are you? A couple miles from your balls? Or what, are you looking at through a telescope?

14:25 Uh, it's just in the shower.

14:27 Adam In the shower. Balls are in the shower?

14:29 Caller Yeah.

14:29 Adam And where are you? Oh, oh, and you're in the shower too, though, right?

14:32 Caller Yeah.

14:33 Adam Okay, I understand.

14:35 Drew You can get something called a torsion, where the testes twist on themselves, and they can cut off their own blood supply and die and become a big mess. So you need to get this taken a look at right away. Okay. There are other things that's epithetomitis, and there's things that can cause pain down there that aren't so serious, but just talking to you over the phone, I can't tell what it is.

14:49 Adam Okay. So what should he do?

14:51 Drew Got to see the doctor. I would go to the emergency room sometimes.

14:53 Adam Really?

14:54 Drew Really, yeah. You never know.

14:55 Adam Yeah, but you go to the emergency room and you hang out for four or five hours.

14:58 Drew I'm sort of obliged to give him that worst case advice, right?

15:01 Adam I understand. I mean, I don't know what it is nationally, but emergency rooms out here, you got a good two, three hours for you to do anything.

15:08 Drew Three hours minimum, yeah.

15:09 Adam You really, I mean, unless you're in there with something hanging out of you, you're going to be sitting for a good long time. So, you know, I mean, really make sure you're dying. You know, that's, that was my family strategy. Wendy?

15:21 Guest Hello?

15:21 Adam You're 16?

15:22 Guest Yes, I am.

15:23 Adam What's up?

15:24 Guest I am constantly attracted to guys who will hurt me, like emotionally. And I'm just wondering what my problem is.

15:31 Adam Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

15:34 Drew How many times has this happened to you?

15:35 Guest Um, God, I don't know. I mean, I date a lot and I have gotten guys who will treat me really respectfully and, you know, treat me how I want to be treated.

15:45 Drew You don't like those guys, though?

15:46 Guest I always end up just getting bored and not liking them.

15:50 Adam Well, give us an example of an abusive guy.

15:53 Guest Okay. This is the most recent one right now. There's this guy who I've liked pretty much for two years, and he's been aware that I've liked him, and, I mean, he's pretended like he's liked me, and he'll be really sweet to me, and then he'll be an asshole, and he'll be really sweet, and I seem to always forget the times when he's really rude to me, and I'll only remember the times he's nice, and he'll use me to get what he wants, and then, I mean, he's...

16:17 Drew You're going to have to be more specific. What happened? What happened?

16:20 He wants to have sex.

16:22 Adam Oh, Jesus Christ.

16:25 Drew Wendy, really, she's a... She's princess, really princess material. I can understand why these guys would be so smitten.

16:32 Adam Wendy just said when we asked what he wanted, she said he wants to F me.

16:37 Caller Unacceptable.

16:38 Adam So I'll just... We'll put Wendy on hold here. Let her little delay boot up again. Punish her just a little bit. Give her a little time out. With all the different words for F me. You know what I mean?

16:52 Drew But it was laid out to impress us. You know the way it was delivered?

16:56 Adam Yeah.

16:58 Drew A little force on the F word. He wants to...

17:02 Adam Me. Right. All right. I don't know. Let's just finish off with Wendy. All right. Wendy? Are you having sex with him?

17:11 Guest No, I'm not.

17:12 Adam I see. But that's what he wants.

17:13 Guest Yes. Okay. And so I... But the problem is, is I still like him a lot and I don't know what's wrong with me. And I always just seem to be attracted to guys who are completely unavailable.

17:22 Adam Yeah.

17:22 Drew Is there any history we should know about?

17:24 Adam Well, she's not too effed up because she would have sex with him.

17:27 Drew And multiple other guys just like that.

17:29 Adam Are you a virgin?

17:30 Guest Yes, I am.

17:32 Drew Is your dad just... It may just be completely normal, Wendy. It's possible, but is your family intact?

17:37 Guest Yeah, completely.

17:38 Drew Yeah. You know, women go through this phase. There's one or two things here. Either you're just going through that phase where you've got to figure out what these alpha male sort of a-hole types are like, and that you realize you can't change them, or this guy may just really just want to have sex with you, and he's very frustrated with you that he can't get his way. And ultimately, you hold your line, you hold what it is you want from the relationship, and he might come around. He really might. He may just be frustrated and just angry and sort of acting out against it, but he could come around. You know what I'm saying, Adam?

18:09 Adam I mean, yeah, that I don't. Wendy does not have a full blown loveline problem.

18:14 Drew No, I don't.

18:15 Guest I have another question, though, and the guy said I could ask it.

18:19 Adam Who's the guy?

18:20 Guest The guy, Dr. Damian.

18:21 Adam Damian? Yeah, Damian gets $4 an hour and was fired the last time I found a coffee ground in my coffee cup.

18:29 Drew He's bisexual. What was the other question?

18:33 Guest For the past, like, three or four months, my nipples have been, like, consistently hard.

18:37 And, I mean, I don't know if you feel better.

18:39 Drew Are you happy now, Adam? You feel better?

18:40 Adam All right, I do feel better.

18:41 Drew Okay, good.

18:42 Guest I'm sorry.

18:43 Drew We've had this a couple times before. I don't know what to tell you. It's just probably, what?

18:48 Guest A shower.

18:48 Drew It's what?

18:49 Guest He told me to take a warm shower.

18:50 Drew No, no, no, no. It's really just the hormonal changes you're going through right now. As much as anything. It may just be you, too. Some women just kind of have that.

19:00 Adam Yeah. I imagine it's embarrassing. Is it embarrassing walking around school?

19:05 Guest No, I don't really care.

19:07 But I mean, no one seems to mind.

19:09 Adam It shows right through the bra and T-shirt?

19:12 Guest Yeah, you can tell a lot of times, but I mean, it's not like it's a big problem. I mean, it's not like I don't care how it looks. I'm just curious, is there a problem?

19:19 No, not a problem.

19:20 Adam 16-year-old Virgin's not a little self-conscious about the headlights being on all day?

19:25 Guest Oh, I don't care.

19:26 Drew Not if she has really good self-esteem.

19:29 Adam Yeah, I don't know. No. No, 16-year-old girls should always worry about everything all the time.

19:35 Guest I honestly don't care.

19:37 Drew Because people don't see them. No one sees them.

19:39 Adam Do they see them?

19:42 Guest I don't think they're that visible. I mean, if I don't wear a bra, they're visible.

19:46 Adam If you wear the bra, it's fine.

19:48 Drew Yeah.

19:49 Guest I mean, it's not that big of a deal. I'm just curious if they're supposed to be hard all the time.

19:52 Adam All right. I'm just trying to-

19:54 Drew There is something else here that you want to do.

19:55 Adam Wendy, are you a little angry?

19:57 Guest I'm angry right now, yes.

19:59 Adam Yeah. Why?

20:01 Guest It's another story.

20:01 Guest Do you want to get into it?

20:03 Adam No.

20:03 It's about a guy who I just found out has a girlfriend who's been leading me on.

20:06 Adam No. I don't know. I don't want to get into it because then I may get melancholy. I will oftentimes weep when I hear about unrequited young love.

20:15 Drew Melancholia.

20:16 Adam Melancholia. Well, listen, Wendy. Yes. Find a guy who will like you back and stop walking around with the hard nipples and the chip on your shoulder. Wendy's got a little bit of a chip on her shoulder.

20:27 Drew Thank you.

20:28 Adam And I'm sure she's making short work of any guy that shows any real legitimate interest in her. Oh.

20:34 Drew Yeah, I know. It brings you back, doesn't it?

20:36 Adam Yeah, it really does.

20:37 Drew The pain that you suffered at the hands of the Wendy's of the world.

20:39 Adam Oh.

20:40 Drew I'm so sorry, Adam.

20:41 Adam I'll tell you. I'll tell you, world, when I get up from my nap, it's payback time. I've been saying that for 10 years. Jonathan?

20:51 Drew You have been saying that for 10 years.

20:52 Adam Yeah.

20:53 Drew Have you found satisfaction in that yet?

20:55 Adam I was thinking of doing a screenplay about a vigilante napper. And that's the slug line. When he gets up from his nap, it's payback time.

21:05 Drew You can kiss his ass.

21:07 Adam That's right.

21:07 Drew Okay.

21:08 Adam Jonathan?

21:08 Yeah.

21:09 Adam 19, what's up?

21:10 Yes, sir. I want a long distance relationship. She lives in England. I want to know if long distance relationships are natural.

21:20 Adam Where did you meet her?

21:21 She came over here. Well, I'm going to tell a brief story. My grandfather went over there and lived for a year. They got a house right across the street from these people. They met them, and they said that they could come over anytime. They came over. We met the first time. We were a lot younger. Nothing happened then. A few years later, we were older. She came over. We hit it off. I don't know how it happened. It just hit off. I'm not really good with girls because I never went out and dated before, but it hit off, and she went back. It's been three years since I've seen her.

21:55 Guest I'm about to go over to see her now.

21:58 Drew This is desperation speaking.

21:59 Adam She put on 170 pounds, and three of her teeth have fallen out.

22:03 Drew Four children later.

22:04 Well, I already got the plane ticket. I'll be leaving October 16th to go see her. I'll be staying over there for a month.

22:10 Drew Does she know that?

22:11 Yeah.

22:12 Drew She's looking forward to it?

22:13 Yeah. We're both looking forward to it. She's got some things planned for me. Right.

22:20 Drew Giro Disney.

22:22 She was talking about doing an engagement, but not getting married. I was like, that's a little too quick. I'm only 19. I don't know what love is really.

22:33 Adam Jonathan has found someone socially worse off than he is.

22:37 Caller Yeah.

22:38 Adam Is she a big gal?

22:40 She's not real big. I mean, she's not overweight and she's not too skinny, but she's kind of in between.

22:46 Adam Right. She wouldn't be like a nose tackle, but she'd be a nice junior college inside line backer size, right?

22:56 Drew Yeah.

22:56 Adam That's right.

22:56 Yeah. Something like that.

22:57 Adam About junior college. About the JC. Wouldn't be able to take it to the next level. Yeah.

23:01 Drew Six through 240, something like that.

23:03 Adam Yeah. In three years, this has been going on and you haven't been able to figure out how to get your ass from Atlanta to England in three years.

23:13 Drew Well, have you really been corresponding with-

23:16 We keep in touch and I call her and I've already got in trouble because of long distance phone bills.

23:22 Adam Oh yeah.

23:23 Drew But you haven't felt this is your girlfriend all this time, have you?

23:27 No, not exactly because a lot of people ask me, are you saying when I go, yeah.

23:31 Adam Yeah. But you haven't done any dating in that three years.

23:34 No. I'm not real good at asking people on a date.

23:37 Adam Okay. Well, this is almost like a pre-arranged marriage. Like our grandparents went to England ten years ago. Found some chick. Basically the English version of Jonathan and brought her by. All right.

23:53 My grandfather's wife is British.

23:58 Adam I see. All right. Well, there you go.

23:59 Drew It's a long history in Jonathan's family of going to England and bringing back a bride.

24:04 Adam Finding chicks. Jonathan, you're going over there in October.

24:07 Yes, sir.

24:08 Adam Good. How long are you planning on staying?

24:10 Drew A month.

24:11 Adam One month?

24:12 Yeah.

24:12 Drew Well, look, just enjoy that month. Yeah. Enjoy the month. You're 19. Sounds like your head screwed up pretty nicely.

24:17 Caller I'm about to join the Navy. I enlisted. I'll be shipped off December 18th.

24:22 Drew All right. Well, that's not great news for a budding relationship, right? So just kind of play it easy. Just see where it goes. All right?

24:32 Caller Okay.

24:33 Drew All right.

24:33 Caller Well, true.

24:34 Adam That was no, you gave him no advice. Don't get her pregnant.

24:37 Drew Don't get her pregnant and don't get married. Just realize you're going to the Navy. Take it easy. She's a little enthusiastic. Just don't get engaged because she's so enthusiastic and you haven't had a date in three years.

24:48 Adam I wonder what her story is.

24:50 Drew Be interesting to hear, wouldn't it? We should get her number and call her in England.

24:53 Adam Not really.

24:54 Guest I'm really getting.

24:55 Adam Drew, please.

24:56 Drew It's seven o'clock in the morning there.

24:57 Caller Come on.

24:58 Adam Drew, how do you know what time it is in England?

25:00 Drew It's nine hours later over there.

25:01 Caller It is?

25:02 Adam How do you know so much about everything?

25:05 Drew I thought you always say I know nothing about nothing.

25:07 Adam You know nothing about anything that you should know about, and that stuff you shouldn't know, you're very well versed in. That's right. I, for instance, know what time it is in Tijuana right now. I think it's the same time as it is now, but it's 20 years earlier. Same time in Tijuana. I think it's 1121 or 1021 in TJ.

25:30 Drew But it's 1982, 1981.

25:32 Adam 1981. That's right. The same day. All right. Pete Yorn is here. He's going to come in here, tell us about CD. We'll hear something off it, talk about some dates and all that good stuff after this.

25:46 1-800-LOVE-191.

26:20 Adam Hey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Pete Yorn and Terry Borden are both here. From the Pete Yorn Band, what do we call it?

26:34 Caller That is the band.

26:35 Caller We're called Dirty Bird, actually.

26:38 Adam Oh, the band is Dirty Bird?

26:39 Caller Well, that's kind of our in.

26:41 Caller The band is known as Dirty Bird.

26:42 That's our name for ourselves.

26:43 Adam Kind of write that down. Would it be Pete Yorn and Dirty Bird?

26:46 Caller You got it. Like Neil Young and Crazy Horse? Right.

26:50 Adam I always thought Crazy Horse was one dude though. No. Crazy Horse was the whole band.

26:56 Caller Yeah.

26:57 Adam I never thought it was like one Indian guy.

27:01 The guy who did the pollution commercial.

27:02 Caller Yeah.

27:02 Adam That was the guy who was standing by the side of the freeway. Yeah.

27:06 Drew No, that wasn't him.

27:07 Adam He is, I would say, the most known television icon ever, the crying Indian.

27:12 Drew Well, overall, I think if you're a young male though, the Mays female version where they should be called Mays.

27:20 Adam Yeah. We had a We Call It Mays reference that fell on deaf ears here last week.

27:25 Caller Mikey was big too.

27:26 Adam Yeah.

27:27 Caller The whole Pop Rocks thing, that was a rumor, right?

27:29 Drew That was interesting.

27:30 Adam We're digressing to find it.

27:32 Drew Into 70s.

27:33 Adam Music for the morning after is the name of the CD. We're going to hear something off of that. Pete and Dirty Bird. I'll just be Dirty Bird. And Dirty Bird, number one, are out with Train and Matchbox 20. Or going to be out with Train and Matchbox 20, right? Yeah. Starting September 15th?

27:52 Caller Yeah.

27:53 Adam A whole bunch of dates. You know those guys? You like those guys?

27:56 Caller We played with Train before on St. Paddy's Day. They're really nice. We haven't met Matchbox 20 yet, though.

28:01 Adam Matchbox 20 is a band that you'd probably like to hate. But as it turns out, they're really, really nice.

28:08 Caller That's what everybody says. That's what I've heard. Yeah.

28:09 I have some friends that played with them. And they were really cool guys.

28:12 Adam Yeah. It's always disappointing when you think, God, that guy must be full of himself, man. If he, I swear to Christ, I'll flatten that mother effort. If he says one, go ahead, damn word. And then they're overly nice.

28:23 Caller Yeah.

28:24 Adam I never know how to process that. And then I start feeling bad about myself for prejudging.

28:29 Caller Because we never have that problem.

28:30 Drew And Adam never disappoints either.

28:32 Adam So everyone knows I'm a sweetheart, Drew. How dare you? Should we? Thank you.

28:38 Drew September 28th in Anaheim, September 18th in Denver, September 20th, Salt Lake City, September 29th, Phoenix, right?

28:44 Adam Yeah. And a whole bunch of other dates, by the way. Why, Drew, Drew reads the plug and then throws the paper back at me.

28:51 Drew Well, this one you were about to dispose of their dates.

28:54 Adam No, I was not. I was just I was going to I was going to talk about hearing something from the new CD and then coming back and giving some dates. So people, you know, I wanted to tantalize them with a little Pete Yorn did it. All right. You got it queued up there, Anderson. This is Life on a Chain. Pete Yorn and Crazy Horse. No, it's Pete Yorn Music for the Morning Afters, the name of the CD. Terry Borden is a Here Too bass player from the band. We'll hear more off the CD, give you some more dates where you can find Pete along with Train and Matchbox 20 and all that. But first, we'll take some phone calls. Jessica?

33:18 Guest Yes.

33:18 Adam You're 16?

33:19 Guest Yes.

33:20 Adam What's up?

33:22 Guest I was wondering like, because when I get my boyfriend oral, like yesterday I swallowed for the first time. Yeah. I heard the story like this girl had to go get her stomach pumped or something.

33:38 Drew Yeah.

33:39 Adam What about Rod Stewart? He had like a gallon of semen in it. Remember that?

33:44 Drew Yeah. I was born too.

33:46 Adam Oh, him too?

33:47 Drew Well, it might have been true in an honest case, but.

33:50 Adam Yeah. So your girlfriend told you what?

33:52 Guest My boyfriend.

33:53 Adam I mean, your boyfriend didn't, I thought you said your girlfriend told you something about ingesting semen.

33:57 Drew Boyfriend, I don't think would be saying things to discourage that behavior.

34:00 Guest About a girl who got her stomach pumped from swallowing all the time.

34:04 Adam Right.

34:05 Guest And like, I was wondering like, is it going to hurt me if I like do it more than once?

34:09 Drew No. Not so long as he doesn't have an STD because you can get STDs that way.

34:16 Adam Is it like a toxic waste that has a shelf life of several thousand years? This half life?

34:23 Drew Yeah, it forms a mucus plug in your stomach.

34:26 Adam And so it'll just sit there.

34:28 Drew And sit there for a time.

34:29 Adam Meaning, if you dissected my grandmother, which I'm this close to doing, by the way, I swear to Christ, any more trouble I'm going to dissect. Don't worry about it. The point is, what I find semen in her from the 30s and 20s, perhaps? Yes? She's saying yes? Drew says yes. I don't know. Yes.

34:49 Caller If it's glowing, that's a bad sign, right?

34:51 Drew Bad sign, it means, yeah, it means a meteor had landed nearby and radiated it.

34:56 Adam Right.

34:56 Drew Yeah. So, Jessica, listen, this is not going to harm you unless your boyfriend has an STD. It is a good way to contract STDs of virtually every kind. But if he's okay, then it's not a big deal by itself.

35:10 Adam Okay.

35:11 Drew All right.

35:11 Adam Can you get crabs from swallowing?

35:13 Drew No.

35:13 Adam Okay. Is crabs considered an STD?

35:16 Drew Yeah. I mean, you could get it. You could get it. It's hard to get crabs that way. You can get them in your beard. I don't think she's going to get it.

35:25 Adam Well, that's why I had to shave it off. I looked like Merlin Olsen for many years until the crabs that came around. Were you a beard?

35:31 Drew You had a beard?

35:32 Adam I blew this drifter once and he was a mess. I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway. And it's like, what I spend that five bucks on? I don't even remember. Jessica?

35:43 Yes.

35:43 Adam All right. You're fine.

35:44 Okay.

35:45 Adam All right. Take care.

35:46 Caller Okay.

35:47 Adam Don't overdo it with this though, right?

35:49 Caller Love the good work.

35:49 Adam You got to give the guy something to live for. How old is he?

35:53 Sixteen.

35:55 Adam Not an ounce of my semen landed anywhere, but the shower drain for the first 20 years of life easily. Jesus Christ. These guys. Oh, they're getting like three ways. You know they're getting two. You know what we don't like?

36:10 Caller When we grew up, I don't know.

36:11 Adam Didn't exist.

36:12 Drew I just, my problem was not getting laid, you know?

36:14 Adam Now, we had one and a half, so we didn't have a full two way. Do you understand that?

36:19 Drew Yeah, right.

36:20 Adam We had to work up to a two and a half.

36:21 We were in LA.

36:22 Adam Right. We didn't get laid. Right.

36:24 What's going on?

36:25 Adam We were in the sexual vanguard and we got nothing. At least I got nothing.

36:29 You were in the center of the adult industry.

36:30 Adam Yeah, I was. North Hollywood, the birthplace of modern porn, nothing. Son of a bitch. You know the thing that really drives me nuts, what's going on now is I didn't like the guy that much, so I blew him, just to give him off my back.

36:45 Caller Are you still on the drifter?

36:47 Drew No, not me. I don't think about himself anymore.

36:49 Adam No.

36:49 Drew That's what girls are calling us.

36:51 Adam One did not like the guy. You know what I mean? I wasn't that interested, but he did buy the Surf and Turf, so what are you going to do? You know, it's very frustrating. Yeah. Sarah?

37:06 Yes.

37:06 Adam I mean, it's like if a girl didn't like you, you got nothing, and if she liked you a lot, you got almost nothing. Go ahead, Sarah. You're 15.

37:14 Caller Hi.

37:15 Drew Hi, Adam.

37:15 Caller Hi, Drew.

37:16 Drew Hey, Sarah.

37:16 Adam Hey.

37:17 Guest Okay. I want to shout out to my friend.

37:20 Adam Did Anderson do that? Anderson is like the show's policeman.

37:26 Drew Yeah.

37:26 Adam He decides-

37:27 Drew The hall monitor.

37:28 Adam Who gets on the air.

37:29 Drew I'm a policeman.

37:30 Caller Who gets a shout out or not?

37:31 Adam Yeah. Hey, Anderson, let her give her a goddamn shout out. What do you care? Go ahead, Sarah.

37:38 Caller Hey, Drew.

37:39 Drew All right, Sarah. What's up?

37:41 Guest Okay. I have this little problem because I really like this guy, and he asked me out, but the thing is, like, he's a year younger than me.

37:52 Adam Yeah.

37:52 Guest And I don't know if, like, people would think that it's morally wrong because, personally, like, I think that he's pretty mature for his age.

38:00 Drew Morally wrong? Huh? Morally wrong. One year.

38:04 Adam Yeah.

38:04 Guest It's like a guy that's younger than me.

38:05 Adam No, morally is fine. Professionally, you got some serious hurdles to get over, but morally. Ethically, professionally, sure. A 10th grader going out with a 9th grader, there's some serious, serious problems there. But morally, there's no problem with that.

38:20 Guest Well, like, I don't know, like, he's really sweet. And like, the only reason like I'm considering it is because like, he's totally different than any other guy that I've like ever dated, you know?

38:29 Adam Right.

38:30 Guest You know, all the guys my age.

38:31 Adam Got all his teeth.

38:32 Guest They're like into like that whole sexual thing. Right. And I don't, you know, I don't do that. I'm not into that.

38:37 Adam No. And this guy has no pubes yet, so you don't have to worry about it?

38:41 Guest Nope.

38:42 Adam Do you really know that? Are you going out? Are you going out with the guys? Is this essentially like a eunuch? Right. So you don't have to have sex with them?

38:53 Guest Well, basically, because like I want to be able to like have a relationship with a guy because like I really want to have a relationship with some guy.

39:00 Adam Right.

39:01 Guest But it seems like, you know, whenever I try, whenever I get with a guy, they want to have like sex.

39:07 Drew This guy will get to that too.

39:09 Guest I know. But I mean like, like.

39:12 Drew That's all they're interested in usually.

39:14 Guest I know. But like I've known him for a couple of months.

39:16 Drew No, no. I'm just saying that your perception is all guys are only interested in that and this guy might have a little more to him. Right?

39:22 Guest Yeah.

39:22 Adam Fine. Is he great under you?

39:26 Guest Yes. Well, we're both like a year below where we're supposed to be. Like I'm supposed to be a junior, he's supposed to be a sophomore, but that doesn't make any difference.

39:33 Drew It's fine. Listen, this sounds fine.

39:34 Adam You both have that sort of dull bulb in common. I mean, you both got held back a grade.

39:39 Guest Well, I think he started late, but I haven't really asked him.

39:42 Adam All right. But you can sit around and talk about something that you have in common, which is being held down by the man.

39:49 Guest Yeah, like that's what I like about him too, because I can actually have conversations with him that aren't stupid.

39:55 Adam Right.

39:56 Standardized testing.

39:57 Guest Right.

39:59 Drew To protest.

40:00 Adam Right. All right, all right, Sarah. This sounds like a match made in purgatory.

40:06 Drew We give this one, we sort of put this in the category with our young man from Atlanta going to England. Fine.

40:12 Adam He's into you, you're into him. You're both supposed to be a grade above where you should be, but that's fine.

40:18 Caller But morality really doesn't enter into the-

40:19 Drew I agree.

40:20 Adam Fine.

40:21 Drew I agree.

40:22 Adam All right, Sarah. We give it our blessing.

40:24 Drew Okay, thank you. That's bad. When you give things blessings.

40:28 Adam I give it my blessing.

40:29 Drew You give it a curse.

40:30 Adam Mazel Tov. You gave my tech stocks blessings.

40:32 Guest I remember that.

40:35 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Wait, when I give something- oh yeah, I have to curse something in order for it to work out. That's right, because I'm cursed personally. So, all right, let's take ourselves a little bit of a break. When we come back, we'll speak to Monica who's 19. She wants to know how her and her 11-year-old brother can deal with a violent alcoholic dad.

40:54 Caller All right, after that...

40:55 Caller Where's my bourbon?

40:57 Guest Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. We'll be right back.

41:33 Adam Hey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Pete Yorn is here along with Terry Borden from The Pete Yorn Project. Let's put project on it.

41:49 Caller Alan Parsons Project.

41:52 Adam You can find Pete and Terry playing with Matchbox 20 and Train and a whole bunch of dates coming up in September and Drew. Don't eat that fiddle faddle in the mic.

42:03 Drew I'm not in the mic, I'm sitting back.

42:05 Adam No, I hear you.

42:06 Drew Seriously?

42:06 Adam Oh, yeah. You don't figure that one out?

42:10 Drew I was sitting back so far.

42:12 Adam Hey, I heard it. Anderson, you heard too, right buddy? Yeah.

42:15 Drew Completely unacceptable, Drew. I'm with you, you hear it.

42:17 Adam Monica?

42:18 Caller Hi.

42:20 Adam What's up? Oh, wait, you got the abusive dad?

42:24 Guest Yeah.

42:26 Drew Is this only recently he's become this way or?

42:28 Guest No, he's been drinking for about 20 years. Oh, boy. Probably more than that. And I don't know, my baby brother, he's just 11 years old. And I have another brother that's 16. And we just don't know how to deal with it anymore because lately he's been abusive. He used to be emotionally abusive before, but now he's just getting like physically abusive.

42:48 Drew Where's your mom?

42:49 Guest She's over here also.

42:51 Drew Why doesn't she help?

42:52 Guest She is trying to help. She is trying to help, but he doesn't send anybody.

42:56 Drew Why don't you guys get it together and get out of there?

42:59 Guest We can't just leave him.

43:00 Drew You can just leave him. That is the only thing that's going to catch his attention.

43:03 Guest But he has threatened us before if we leave.

43:06 Drew Look, Monica, get out of there. I swear to God, get out of there. This is unacceptable behavior. He's way into his disease. All the talking in the world is not going to get through to him. The only thing he's going to feel is loss. And when he understands that it's because of his drinking, you have a chance of him doing something with that.

43:24 Guest Yeah, but the thing is that a couple of years ago, he had a kidney transplant, and the doctor said that he didn't have too many years to live.

43:34 Drew People can live with kidney transplants for decades. What was the transplant because of? What kind of kidney disease?

43:40 Guest I don't know. He just has one kidney right now.

43:42 Drew He's not diabetic?

43:44 Guest He's not diabetic, but he is.

43:45 Drew Was it high blood pressure or obstruction or something he didn't take care of?

43:48 Adam What did he want to do, pull a chart or something?

43:50 Drew Because different kinds of kidney diseases have more difficult prognosis.

43:53 Adam So, like, hoping this guy will die in the next six months?

43:56 Drew No, most of them will go on for decades. It's quite acceptable.

43:58 Guest He's had his kidney transplant for about 13 years. Yeah.

44:02 Drew So, look, he's going to be fine. In the meantime, he's threatening you all, and the only chance he has at interrupting the disease he's in, the deadly disease he has, which is alcoholism, is you guys putting down a very firm limit.

44:16 Adam What's alcohol do to your kidneys?

44:18 Drew Really nothing. It's raised your blood pressure. I can screw it up that way, but the kidneys, probably one of the only organs is relatively spared by alcohol.

44:25 Adam Wow. That's kind of cool. You get a whole transplant, and you're like, should I stop drinking? Not if you don't want to. You're fine. It'll probably be good for you.

44:33 Guest Yeah, but like right now, it's like my mom.

44:34 Drew It's not good for the medication they're taking, though.

44:36 Guest My mom, she's the one that's making all the house payments and everything, and he's not really doing anything.

44:42 Adam Well, that's different. Now, you have to stay with it.

44:44 Drew Monica, I know you feel responsible for him.

44:46 Adam I thought he was paying, but...

44:47 Drew All right. You need to go to Alan on.

44:49 Adam Oh, boy. Do you hear Monica's voice?

44:50 Drew Yeah, I know.

44:51 Adam Sounds like an 11-year-old.

44:52 Drew Go to Alan on Monica.

44:54 Adam Monica.

44:55 Guest Yeah?

44:56 Adam Did he ever abuse you sexually?

44:58 Guest No, no, no.

44:59 Adam Any of that happen to you?

45:00 Guest No. None of that.

45:01 Adam He doesn't have any drunken brothers?

45:03 Guest No. Like, I mean, yeah, he has a lot of brothers, but none of that happened. All right.

45:09 Adam What happened to your voice? Why do you, is it, is it just growing up with a alcoholic dad that sort of retards your development that way?

45:16 Drew Sure.

45:17 Adam Because it's usually always sexual abuse.

45:19 Guest No, I wasn't with my parents for four years when I was a little girl.

45:24 Drew How come?

45:25 Guest Because that's why my dad had the kidney transplant and my mom, she couldn't just take care of me, so I had to live with my grandparents for four years.

45:33 Drew How did that go?

45:34 Guest That was okay.

45:35 Guest That was a really nice experience. I mean, they weren't mean to me.

45:38 Guest They treated me very well.

45:41 Adam So you're 19, you're still living at home?

45:43 Guest Yeah. Because I'm just here to help out my mom. I go to college and I go to work and I help my brothers out.

45:50 Adam Can't you guys poison him or something?

45:53 Drew You have to.

45:54 Adam Seriously, why not?

45:56 Guest I mean, he doesn't drink.

45:58 Guest He drinks every night.

45:59 Drew Monica, listen, stop making excuses for this.

46:01 Adam What's wrong with poisoning the guy?

46:03 Drew Don't poison him.

46:04 Adam Why not?

46:04 Drew But leave him. Leave him.

46:07 Adam Leave him. He sounds like a dynamite individual.

46:09 Drew You're not going to be able to. This is going to get worse. He's going to harm somebody. I'm telling you, go to Al-Anon, Monica, at the very minimum, so you can understand how to deal with this disease, OK? If you want to do something for him, you owe him that.

46:21 Adam All right, you go to Al-Anon and call us back, all right?

46:24 Drew OK, thank you.

46:25 Adam All right, go to that goddamn Al-Anon. Do you understand that?

46:28 Drew Let's get her phone number and call her back.

46:30 Adam I'm going to put you on hold.

46:31 Drew Hold on the line.

46:31 Guest OK.

46:32 Adam All right. You know what I always think is a funny threat? You leave and I'll kill you. That to me is incentive to leave right there.

46:41 Drew That's the time you leave quick.

46:44 Adam Yeah, whether I'm sitting next to someone on a bus or actually living with them, the whole leave and I'll kill you threat, that means it's time to leave. What would be a more opportune time to leave than they all kill you apart? I mean, you may not leave that second, let the person think you're going to bed that night.

47:04 Caller Let them go to sleep and then-

47:05 Adam Right, just slide out the next morning or that night. Get the kids and slide out of there. These families, they're like brainwashed by these a-holes. I'll tell you right now that mommy had an alcoholic dad, so she got attracted to this loser and married him. And then the kids just grew up in this horrible environment.

47:26 Drew Taking care of it.

47:27 Adam And they're all, they're all a, all right.

47:30 Drew Disaster.

47:31 Adam All right, come on, let's all go to Canada. Can we do that?

47:33 Drew Well, they have lots of alcoholics there, don't worry.

47:35 Adam I know, but they're like, they sing and they hoist the mugs.

47:38 Caller We can make movies cheaper, then.

47:40 Adam They have non-union workers there, we can make cheap films.

47:43 Drew Oh, think of The Man Show.

47:44 Adam Man Show can have full frontal nudity in Canada. And The Man Show is in Canada, actually. It's on the comedy network or station or whatever.

47:52 Guest Whatever.

47:53 Drew Noreen?

47:54 Guest Hi.

47:55 Adam Hey.

47:55 Guest Hi.

47:56 Adam You're 20.

47:56 Guest Yeah, I am.

47:57 Adam What's up?

47:58 Guest I was actually just wondering about Pete Yorn.

48:01 Adam Here he is.

48:02 Guest Hi.

48:02 Caller What's up?

48:03 Guest Hi. I just want to tell you, I really like your CD and I like how it's really unique. I like listening to all the songs. And actually, I was just wondering what Closet, that particular song was about.

48:14 Caller Closet? For me, it's more about the music than anything. It's kind of a fun power pop song that I like to listen to. But I know people ask me about the lyrics a lot. I think it has something to do with obsession. And kind of obsessing over a person and wanting to know a person.

48:35 Guest Oh, okay. Okay. Because my brother thought it was about coming out of the closet.

48:39 Caller Yeah. A lot of people relate to it that way.

48:43 Guest Is that what the first idea was?

48:45 Caller No, it doesn't really have anything to do with that for me. It's kind of like being in someone's personal space, personal areas.

48:52 Guest And who exactly thought of the name for the CD in...

48:56 Caller Music for the Morning After?

48:58 Guest Yeah.

48:58 Caller That was me.

48:59 Guest Oh, you thought of the title?

49:01 Caller Yeah.

49:01 Guest Oh, because that totally goes with the CD.

49:04 Guest Especially that one song that they play over and over on 91X.

49:08 Caller Oh, Life on a Chain?

49:10 Guest Yeah.

49:11 Guest Because when I first got the CD, I was actually listening to the Original Record Store, and I was like, hey, this is really... It does sound like music for the Morning After. So I was thinking, that's really cool, you know?

49:21 Cool.

49:22 Adam And you actually go into the music stores and listen to the new CDs?

49:27 Guest Well...

49:27 Adam And to like to see if you want to buy something new?

49:30 Guest Like, have you or Drew ever gone to the Original Record Store in Sensei Boulevard?

49:34 Adam Yes.

49:34 Guest Yeah. Come on.

49:35 Caller That place is like... Have you gone together?

49:37 Guest Yeah. Oh, yeah.

49:38 Adam First date. We were... We saw... I think we saw the split ends over at the Coconut Teaser across the street. This is... I mean, this is 1985.

49:48 Drew The laugh stop was right there.

49:49 Caller I just spent six months on a leaky boat.

49:52 Adam That's right.

49:57 Drew Human League was making a comeback.

49:59 Adam That's right. We're going to catch them next week. They made a little blowout, but we're back together. I mean, everything's good now. All right. We're going to take ourselves a break. I don't know what the end of the Virgin Megastore and Sunset story is, but I'm guessing it's not going to be a big payday. So we'll take a little break. Pete Yorn is our guest tonight. We'll be right back.

50:19 Caller All right, guys.

50:19 Adam Here's the deal.

50:20 Caller You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

50:24 Caller One call is all you need to make.

50:25 Caller Call the Dateline.

50:26 Caller 877-889-DATE.

50:36 Caller Loveline will be right back.

51:22 Adam Hey, this is System of a Down, right? Yeah, they had like a free concert in Hollywood today.

51:28 Drew How did it go?

51:29 Adam Well, I don't think it went well because when I was driving home about six o'clock from the valley, I noticed five news helicopters hovering over Hollywood Boulevard. Probably somewhere around Hollywood and Vine area there.

51:46 Drew But in the System of a Down world, that's a triumph.

51:49 Adam I guess it may have been, but I didn't know what was going on over there. Then I got home and heard on the news that there's a little bit of a riot.

51:56 Caller Apparently, they never even got to play.

51:57 Adam They never got to play? No, their fans got out of control and they shut it down.

52:01 Caller Whoa, rowdy bunch.

52:03 Adam All right. Well, still, a feather in the cap of any rock band to have a free. I think some bands throw free concerts just so there can be a riot and they never have to play.

52:13 Drew In fact, they didn't get up this morning, they stayed home.

52:15 Adam Yeah, I don't think they ever made it out there. Yeah. Pete Yorner is our guest tonight, along with Terry Borden from the band. We're going to do a little less changing of the guard in about 10 minutes, when Terry takes a powder and WAZ comes in here from the band, the guitar player, switch out the bass for the guitar. We'll hear something else off the CD, music for the morning after coming up in just a couple of few minutes. Again, you can find Pete and Company out on tour with Matchbox 20 and Train coming up all pretty much a month of September. All right, let's... What are you doing, Drew?

52:53 Drew Relax.

52:53 Adam Let's go to the phone here and speak to Rachel who is 16. Rachel?

52:58 Guest Yeah?

52:59 Caller What's up?

53:01 Guest Well, I'm pregnant.

53:03 Adam I see.

53:04 Guest And I'm three months.

53:05 Adam Three months, yes.

53:06 Guest And like, I had it with my boyfriend, but then we broke up. And I found out afterward. And he's like, he doesn't believe me that I'm pregnant. He's like in denial.

53:21 Drew Well, unfortunately, it doesn't sound like even if he believed it, he'd be of much help.

53:26 Guest Yeah, I don't know. I keep telling him and he keeps telling me I'm getting an abortion, but it's been three months already.

53:32 Drew So it's too late.

53:33 Guest Yeah.

53:33 Drew Okay. Well, there you go. So it's it's listen. Forget about him, Rachel. Forget it. He's not going to be of any use. He's not helpful in this regard. He's not going to help you with this child. He's not going to help you through this pregnancy. You need to find someone who will. What about your family?

53:51 Guest I didn't tell them yet.

53:53 Drew Yeah, but would they help you if you told them?

53:55 Guest I don't know.

53:57 Drew What kind of relationship do you have with your mom and dad?

53:59 Guest It's okay, but it's not like one of those helping families.

54:05 Adam Helping or humping? Helping. I'm guessing it was helping. I heard humping, but I did the math.

54:11 Guest Good.

54:12 Drew Thank you for...

54:14 Adam So they're not helpers. They're not necessarily humpers either, per se. We know your boyfriend is. And is your dad around?

54:22 Caller Yeah, he's here.

54:24 Adam How's he? Is he a good guy?

54:27 Caller Yeah, they're okay.

54:30 Drew You're being very vague with us, but we'll sort of let it be. Then tell them.

54:35 Adam Okay. Hey, how about you go to Playin Parenthood and sort of throw yourself on the mercy of those folks over there?

54:42 Guest Yeah.

54:42 Adam You gotta do something, right?

54:44 Guest Yeah.

54:45 Adam Well, I know you're overwhelmed, and I know you're young, and I know you're confused and ill-prepared for this, but this is what happens. And it happened to you, and now you gotta make a move, and you have to make a move now. You understand?

55:00 Drew And it's stop thinking that somehow he's gonna rescue you, or that you being in trouble and pregnant is gonna cause him to sort of engage in a relationship with you. He's not going to. He's a piece of work. He's not a good guy.

55:14 Guest Yeah, he's not. Maybe because I'm pregnant.

55:16 Drew Yeah, he's not a good guy. Asshole.

55:18 Adam Thank you.

55:19 Drew Asshole. I can imitate myself too.

55:21 Adam Go ahead. See if you can mimic yourself. Go ahead.

55:24 Drew Asshole.

55:25 Adam Let's hear it, Anderson.

55:27 Drew Asshole. Asshole.

55:29 Asshole. I closed my eyes.

55:31 Adam I don't know which one the real Drew is.

55:33 Caller Did I say that?

55:34 I guess we can.

55:35 Adam I think we just said it like five times.

55:37 Is it jizz-guzzling?

55:38 Caller No. He said jizz-guzzling too.

55:40 Adam Okay.

55:41 Yeah, but if Rachel had been a little more of that, she wouldn't be in this predicament. Rachel.

55:46 Adam You're thinking about maybe giving the child up for adoption?

55:51 Guest Very little thinking of it.

55:53 Drew That would be great. Think about what you would be doing something on behalf of the child.

55:57 Caller Yeah.

55:58 Adam Right?

55:59 Caller Yeah.

55:59 Guest But like, and right now, everything's like really weird.

56:03 Adam Yeah.

56:03 Guest Okay. I get a read from his mom in the morning, because we live like just down the street from each other.

56:09 Adam Your boyfriend.

56:10 Guest Yeah.

56:11 Adam Yeah.

56:12 Guest And he called me and he's like, he's mad at me and he keeps telling me to get an abortion, but he doesn't even believe me that you can't, you know?

56:20 Adam Right. Right.

56:21 Guest Too late. It is too late, because it's three months, right?

56:24 Caller Yeah.

56:24 Adam Yeah. In most states, right?

56:26 Caller Right.

56:27 Adam Is it too late out here in California?

56:29 Caller Of course I know.

56:29 Caller Yeah.

56:30 Adam All right. Hey, Rachel, where are you getting a ride to from his mom?

56:35 Caller School.

56:35 Adam Oh. You're going to year-round school?

56:38 Guest It's, no, I'm just starting school.

56:40 Drew A couple weeks ago.

56:41 Adam You started school already?

56:42 Drew Yeah.

56:43 Guest Tomorrow, actually.

56:44 Adam School started the middle of September.

56:47 Drew Some started last week, a lot started this week, and some started next week.

56:49 Adam Oh, that's a bigger problem than this pregnancy. You're really getting a shaft over there at school. I mean, you really should have a couple of weeks to burn. I can't believe you're back in school. That's the real tragedy of this call.

57:00 Guest Tomorrow's their first day.

57:01 Drew Rachel, you need some help.

57:03 Adam Tomorrow's their first day. She's beginning a ride from the mom. Like practice runs or?

57:09 Guest Well, last year I did.

57:11 Adam I see. Okay, last year.

57:12 Guest You're going to do that again.

57:13 Drew Forget about the guy.

57:14 Adam Do you see how the show goes for me, by the way?

57:16 Drew Think about this child. You have another life you are responsible for. I think a great decision would be putting it up for adoption. You're going to need to tell your parents. Maybe you want to get some help from planned parents or someone like that first.

57:26 Adam Do you have any friends?

57:28 Guest Yeah.

57:29 Adam All right. Do you like them?

57:30 Guest Yeah.

57:31 Adam Do you have one that is real supportive and good and close and everything?

57:35 Guest Yeah, I have one friend.

57:37 Adam Okay. Why don't you? Is she pregnant?

57:39 Guest No.

57:39 Adam No. Call her and tell her you two got to go over to Plan Pregnant, Plan Parenthood tomorrow, right?

57:47 Guest Yeah.

57:47 Adam And that she needs to go with you and hold your hand and show some support, okay?

57:51 Guest Yeah.

57:52 Adam All right. Take care. You just go over there and they'll help you out.

57:55 Guest Okay.

57:56 Adam All right. Take care. Oh, boy. Yeah. Got to give the kid up for adoption at this point. Please, everybody. I could imagine. I just could not. I mean, look, if I found out, if I had a kid growing in me, I'd go nuts. I really would.

58:16 Drew Oh, if you had a kid growing in someone else.

58:18 Adam I'd go nuts.

58:19 Drew Now, you're 17, you got a kid growing in someone else. Wait, you're 17, you have puppies growing somewhere else.

58:26 Adam Yeah, I'm going insane. John?

58:29 Caller Yeah.

58:30 Adam You're 21?

58:30 Caller Yep.

58:31 Adam What's up?

58:32 Caller Um, not too much. I've been on Ritalin for like about 16 years now.

58:38 Drew Ritalin?

58:39 Caller Yeah.

58:40 Adam 16 years, huh?

58:41 Caller Yeah.

58:42 Adam You got on in your five, huh?

58:44 Caller Um, it was like a couple months before I turned six. All right.

58:47 Adam All right.

58:48 Caller Um, I was wondering what like major side effects were from Ritalin.

58:53 Drew You mean long-term effects from long-term use?

58:55 Caller Yeah.

58:56 Drew None.

58:57 Caller There are none?

58:57 Drew No.

58:58 Adam Doesn't he, shouldn't he be off it by now though, at 21?

59:00 Drew Well, if you have any family history of alcoholism?

59:03 Caller No.

59:05 Drew He may be true ADD if he was that age and put on it.

59:07 Caller Actually, ADHD.

59:08 Drew ADHD.

59:10 Adam All right. Yeah.

59:11 Drew The fact is, though, that if you don't have, if you're not, if you don't have family history of addiction and you have true ADD, ADHD, it's fine to stay on it.

59:20 Adam Does that ever go away, that ADHD?

59:22 Drew Not really.

59:23 Adam Really?

59:24 Drew I mean, it sort of changes qualities as you get older. But if you have a family history of addiction, you have ADD, you're an addict and you have to get off that stuff by 18.

59:33 Caller No. I have no addiction.

59:35 Adam How's your life going?

59:37 Caller Pretty decent.

59:38 Adam Yeah. You in school? Are you working?

59:41 Caller I'm in school and working and I just moved.

59:44 Adam Wow. All right. You got a woman?

59:46 Caller Not as of yet.

59:47 Adam A virgin?

59:48 Caller Hell no.

59:49 Adam You've been laid before?

59:51 Caller Yeah.

59:51 Adam How much? Seriously?

59:53 Caller I don't know. I think eight girls.

59:57 Adam Eight girls?

59:58 That's a damn lie and you know it.

1:00:00 Caller You think?

1:00:01 Caller I was a virgin until I graduated high school.

1:00:04 Caller All right.

1:00:05 Caller Okay. Hooked up with some girls.

1:00:07 Caller All right.

1:00:07 Caller But I also had another question of it. Yeah. I went to a shrink and I was diagnosed with high stem high risk.

1:00:13 Drew For what?

1:00:14 Adam High stem?

1:00:16 Caller They broke it down in my ADHD.

1:00:18 Drew Yeah.

1:00:19 Caller And I'm high risk, high stimulation. So I'm pretty much an adrenaline junkie. All right.

1:00:23 Drew That's called addiction.

1:00:25 Caller It's like bungee jumping and stuff like that. Exactly.

1:00:28 Drew So you're an addict?

1:00:30 Caller No.

1:00:31 Adam What are you into?

1:00:34 Caller Almost anything like snowboarding, skateboarding, blading, a lot of alternative sports.

1:00:39 Adam All right. So you do all that stuff?

1:00:40 Caller Yeah.

1:00:41 Drew You don't do any illicit drugs? Alcohol?

1:00:42 Caller No, I don't.

1:00:44 Adam You drink a lot of that Mountain Dew?

1:00:46 Caller No.

1:00:47 Adam Really? The commercials don't work on you?

1:00:50 Drew Nobody does windsurf over wheat fields.

1:00:52 Adam Oh, yeah. That's that Allegra. All right, John.

1:00:56 Caller I was wondering actually if being high-risk would have anything like would affect any relationships or anything?

1:01:02 Adam Well, you could kill yourself on a street luge and not be around to watch your kids be raised.

1:01:10 Drew You're heading towards these arousal junkies, which are really addicts and people get into addictive relationships and they use arousal in their relationships just the way you would with your sports and your extreme activities. So you go for these high-risk, very intensive, sort of chaotic, unhealthy relationships. Be careful.

1:01:27 Caller I will.

1:01:28 Drew Okay.

1:01:29 Adam All right there, John.

1:01:30 Drew Thank you.

1:01:31 Adam Good times. Good times. Couldn't quite figure out his angle exactly.

1:01:35 Caller I thought high stem was a gardening problem.

1:01:39 Adam I think it was high stem, but he sounded like he kept saying stem. Stem.

1:01:43 Caller Stem.

1:01:44 Adam That's his first problem. Well, he was from India.

1:01:45 Caller You got to raise the wheels on the mower.

1:01:50 Adam No, it's not funny. Not funny. Not even a courtesy laugh. Oh, yeah. We got to switch out. Hey, Jimmy. Yeah. Hold on a second. Okay. Yeah. Terry was cruising along pretty good here until that high stem job. He was out of here. Then he followed it up with the raise the mower and frankly, we heard enough.

1:02:10 Drew We enjoyed those 70s references. The 70s references we kind of enjoyed. Thought they were going somewhere.

1:02:14 Adam Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, he was fine at the beginning, but like a wine that had a bad aftertaste, just not going to take a chance on the second hour. So we're going to bring WAZ in from the band. Yeah.

1:02:27 Caller You're out of here.

1:02:28 Adam Terry Ham, sorry, buddy.

1:02:29 Caller It's OK, man.

1:02:30 Adam You know, it's not like we can't be friends.

1:02:31 I knew I was taking a risk when I went for the high stem thing.

1:02:34 Caller And, you know, he laid it on the line.

1:02:35 Adam You took your shot. That's important.

1:02:37 Drew You know, you got to take your shot.

1:02:39 Caller I have to leave at this point.

1:02:42 Adam Terry Borden, everybody.

1:02:44 Caller Thank you, guys.

1:02:46 Adam One of the new dirty birds. All right. He is WAZ is taking his place now. He is the guitar player from the Pete Yorn band. Good to have you in here. Oh, not a moment too soon, too. Goddamn, Terry was really getting on my nerves, Drew. Just driving Drew insane. All right. We will hear something from the Pete Yorn band coming up. Just, well, we take a call and then we'll hear a new song. Although it used to be up on the board, now it's not up there anymore.

1:03:15 Drew Don't put it up. You have to get rid of this song.

1:03:17 Adam All right. Jimmy?

1:03:18 Caller Yes.

1:03:18 Adam You're 17?

1:03:19 Caller Yes, I am.

1:03:20 Adam What's up?

1:03:22 Caller My problem is basically my girlfriend's mother is extremely overprotective. I've been living with her, my girlfriend and her mother for about two years now.

1:03:32 Adam Why?

1:03:33 Caller My parents kicked me out of my place. Why? My grades in school and I just wasn't getting along with my parents.

1:03:41 Adam Wow.

1:03:41 Drew Tell us a little more. What specifically was going on?

1:03:45 Caller I was drinking some alcohol and staying out late and getting into some fights and stuff.

1:03:52 Adam So your parents booted you out at 15?

1:03:54 Caller Yes. They actually sent me to go live with my older brother. I didn't want to and my girlfriend's mom agreed to let me live with her. Why? So I've been living with her for two years. My girlfriend's mother won't let me be in a room alone with my girlfriend, won't let me sleep in the same room, won't even let me hold hands with her.

1:04:18 Drew But you're gay.

1:04:19 Adam You're nailing her on a constant basis, right?

1:04:22 Caller Well, yes, when the mother's not around.

1:04:24 Adam That's what I love. What do you think she thought the future was going to be like when she invited the 15-year-old boyfriend for 15-year-old daughter to come stay?

1:04:33 Drew Oh, that poor, he's such a nice boy. I'm going to watch him, though. I'll get my eye on him.

1:04:37 Adam I mean, you've been there for two years?

1:04:39 Guest Yes.

1:04:39 Adam And how old is your girlfriend?

1:04:42 Guest She's 14.

1:04:42 Guest Oh!

1:04:43 Adam No way!

1:04:44 Guest No way!

1:04:47 Guest Good work.

1:04:47 Adam No way!

1:04:49 Caller So, we've been thinking about just going and getting married.

1:04:53 Adam Wait a minute. Let me dissect this a little bit further. Your girlfriend is 14 now? And you're 17 now? Two years ago you moved in with her. So, you were 15? And your girlfriend was 12?

1:05:10 Caller Yeah, so just turning 12.

1:05:13 Adam Oh, okay. Well, that's different. I thought she was an old 12. New 12, that's fine. Why didn't you say that earlier? So, she's just turning 14. Just turning 12 when you moved in at 15.

1:05:25 Caller Yes.

1:05:26 Adam Now, were you having sex with her at that point? No. I never have. You've never had sex with your girlfriend?

1:05:33 Caller Never.

1:05:34 Adam Boy, the plot thickens.

1:05:35 Drew You're gay. You referred to nailing her regularly.

1:05:39 Caller Yeah.

1:05:39 Adam I wasn't sure why he answered yes to that.

1:05:42 Caller No. The mother won't allow it.

1:05:44 Adam She won't allow you to have sex with her daughter.

1:05:46 Caller We fool around when the mother's not around, but I haven't technically had sex with her.

1:05:51 Drew Technically.

1:05:52 Adam I see. I see. So, when you were 15, you were in, what, the 10th grade?

1:05:58 Caller I was actually, no.

1:05:59 Drew Not in high school.

1:06:00 Caller No. I was in the 9th. Going into the 9th.

1:06:04 Adam Going into the... So, you were held back a grade?

1:06:06 Caller No.

1:06:07 Adam Uh-oh. Let's not bring this controversy up again. But going into the 9th grade at 15?

1:06:12 Caller Yes.

1:06:13 Adam Okay. That sounds old, but alright. And she was, what, going into preschool when you met her?

1:06:19 Caller No. She was going into the 7th grade.

1:06:21 Adam Going into the 7th grade. Alright. So, she's like old and you're young, or you're old and she's young, or whatever the hell it is. And she became your girlfriend.

1:06:30 Caller I was just wondering how I could get the mother to...

1:06:33 Adam Haven't gotten to that part yet. I'm still sifting through the wreckage of your young life here. Okay. So, you move in at 15. What's up with mama that the 15-year-old boyfriend of your 12-year-old daughter is going to move in with you?

1:06:48 Caller Well, she knew I needed a place to stay and, you know, she knew that I was nice and that I loved her daughter. And so she let me stay there.

1:06:59 Adam Okay. And for two years you've not had sex with her, or living under the same roof?

1:07:04 Caller No, not, no, not.

1:07:05 Adam What do you do?

1:07:07 Caller We do pretty much everything else.

1:07:10 Adam Oral sex?

1:07:11 Caller Yes.

1:07:12 Adam And how come you don't have intercourse?

1:07:14 Caller My girlfriend doesn't want to right now.

1:07:16 Adam I see. All right. And now the mom is very protective?

1:07:23 Caller Oh, yes.

1:07:24 Adam Okay. Rightfully so. And you want to know how to get her off your back? You have to chop your penis off.

1:07:33 Drew Yeah, that would do it.

1:07:34 Adam That's the only thing that would do it. You have to present your bloody penis on it.

1:07:37 Drew And testes. And testes.

1:07:38 Adam Sorry, Drew. I didn't say testes.

1:07:40 Drew No.

1:07:40 Adam Bloody penis and testicles on a satin pillow.

1:07:44 Drew Uh-huh. Or get with the mother for a threesome.

1:07:47 Adam That's all I can...

1:07:48 Caller No, the mother is like 400 pounds.

1:07:50 Adam And where is daddy?

1:07:53 Caller He left them about 10 years ago.

1:07:56 Adam Okay.

1:07:57 Caller He's up north in the San Francisco area.

1:07:59 Adam Okay. So Jimmy, what you have here is a very bad situation that is never going to be right because it's flawed. It's inherently flawed, you see.

1:08:09 Drew But for him, given what he's come from, it's workable. You know what I'm saying?

1:08:13 Adam Well, he's had food and shelter for the last two years.

1:08:16 Drew He's got a girl he really likes. He just, you know, appropriately, he's got some limits, and she's managed to maintain them.

1:08:22 Adam So.

1:08:23 Drew So it's kind of good for him.

1:08:24 Adam Yes. So her mother's never going to fully trust you, and she shouldn't. You're going to have to just stick it out under her roof, under her rules and her jurisdiction until you can find your own pad. Don't get married with her and move out with her. No. Just get a job and move out, and then you can date her like a human being.

1:08:46 Caller And you're young. Don't worry about it.

1:08:48 Adam Yeah. Don't do anything weird and get married and then get engaged and have her move out. Are you working now?

1:08:55 Caller Uh-huh.

1:08:57 Drew These guys are getting ready to yell.

1:08:57 Adam Okay.

1:08:58 Drew All right.

1:08:59 Adam Do you have a job?

1:09:00 Caller Yes. Yes.

1:09:02 Adam You do have a job?

1:09:03 Caller Yes, I do.

1:09:04 Adam Okay.

1:09:05 Caller I work as a mechanics helper. Okay. For a friend's like auto body shop.

1:09:10 Adam Very good. Very good. Get another friend, get an apartment and move out.

1:09:16 Drew A mechanics helper at an auto body shop.

1:09:19 Adam Yeah. That's a lot of metal. You know, my theory is about guys who work around metal. But auto body shops are basically to the automotive trade, what the roofer is to the construction trade.

1:09:34 Drew Okay.

1:09:34 Adam It is the lowest rung on the automotive ladder.

1:09:38 Drew Do they call themselves mechanics?

1:09:40 Adam Well, they can be turn some wrenches, pull off a fender, a bumper, pound out a quarter, pound over two.

1:09:46 Drew Don't touch that. Don't touch. We're going to hear a song.

1:09:48 Adam We are? All right. Let's hear something from Pete Yorn. This one is called For Nancy. That's Pete Yorn off of Music for the Morning After. What the hell was the name of that song? It was on the screen. For Nancy. For Nancy, yes. They take that off the screen and leave on the bogus calls. Genius, those guys. I'm going to clean house in that next room. Do you understand me? There's no respect over there. Do you hear me, Drew?

1:13:37 Drew For you? Let's go to break.

1:13:43 Adam Listen, I swear you a-holes over there. Listen, you guys are so lucky. I don't give a rat's ass about this radio show. You're all lucky. I could care less. You're all lucky. I just come in here, get my paycheck and go to hell home. Everyone's lucky. I have a thousand other projects going. Otherwise, I'd get upset. I'd complain. I'd make phone calls, but who cares? We're late for break up. Anderson, I swear, don't mess with me.

1:14:05 Drew Not tonight.

1:14:06 Adam Anderson screws around.

1:14:07 Drew Don't screw them tonight.

1:14:08 Adam All right. Who cares? We'll be back. Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Pete Yorn and WAZ are both here. WAZ plays a guitar in the Pete Yorn band. The CD is called Music for the Morning After. That is out everywhere and a bunch of dates in September.

1:15:05 Caller What is that?

1:15:05 Adam Yeah, September, right? With Matchbox 20 and Train. So, you guys got a website or something if people want to find out some more dates or something like that? Oh, yeah.

1:15:16 Caller Clownpenis.fart.

1:15:17 Adam All right. Clownpenis.fart.

1:15:22 Caller peteyorn.com.

1:15:23 Adam peteyorn.com.

1:15:24 Caller There you go.

1:15:25 Adam And we'll talk to Anna, 17. Anna?

1:15:28 Guest Hello.

1:15:29 Adam What's up?

1:15:30 Guest Nothing much. Just wanted to talk to Pete.

1:15:32 Caller What's up?

1:15:33 Guest Hello. I wanted to know if you guys were ever going to do one of those acoustic free tours here in California?

1:15:39 Caller Acoustic free tours? Are they doing those?

1:15:41 Guest Yeah, you guys are doing one in Arizona. Well, that's... I got the email listing.

1:15:46 Caller Oh, like an in-store or something?

1:15:48 Guest Yeah, something like that.

1:15:50 Caller We're not doing one this... We were only here this week and we're not doing one this week.

1:15:53 Guest Where do you live? In Stockton, California. By Sacramento.

1:15:58 Caller Yeah, we just played a free show in San Jose last week.

1:16:01 Guest Oh, really?

1:16:01 Caller That's kind of close, but no, we're not doing one this week.

1:16:04 Guest Yeah, you guys played here at the campus, the University of Pacific Campus, but I missed that.

1:16:09 Adam You miss a lot of shows that are nearby for showing us you and Pete Yorn.

1:16:14 Guest I'm cheap! I can't afford it.

1:16:15 Adam All right, well, then what are we talking for?

1:16:17 Guest I'm talking for a free acoustic tour at Backstage Passes, hey.

1:16:22 Adam No, no, no. How much could it have been on the campus?

1:16:24 Guest Huh? It was like 22, but...

1:16:27 Adam 22?

1:16:27 Caller That was a fun time.

1:16:28 Caller You know what it takes to get a Backstage Pass.

1:16:30 Guest What was that?

1:16:31 Caller You know what it takes.

1:16:32 Caller There was a bikini car wash there that day.

1:16:34 Guest Hey, I'll do anything.

1:16:35 Caller Like in the movies. When we pulled up, we come back.

1:16:37 Adam Really? Yeah. That's hot.

1:16:38 Caller Like you see on TV or something.

1:16:40 Drew They watched the whole bus.

1:16:41 Adam I'll tell you, I...

1:16:41 Caller Bikinis in the windows.

1:16:43 Adam I miss... I got the T-vone. I got the Playboy channel. And I keep scrolling through it, looking for something good. And I never thought I'd say this, but it's just hardcore porn. And that's not what I'm looking for for Playboy. I'm looking for that weird 70s nudie stuff. And the pictorials from the late 70s, early 80s. And that good crazy... See, kids, once upon a time, we did not have pornography. We had sort of... We had brief nudity and sexual situations, but we did not have full-blown hardcore pornography. And all we had was the gas pump girls and...

1:17:25 Drew Car wash.

1:17:26 Caller And there's no imagination anymore. You need your imagination.

1:17:29 Drew Billy Jack.

1:17:30 Adam Billy Jack and a rape scene by a river. That wasn't any good nudity. But they had these great movies, especially the ones that were like send-ups of the fairy-tale things like Pinocchio and Flesh Gordon and all that. You ever see Flesh Gordon? That was a good one. Cinderella. They had all these sort of dirty fairy-tale movies. Those must have shown in theaters, right? Jesus Christ.

1:17:56 Guest Young Lady Chatterley. Was that it?

1:17:58 Adam Yeah. Oh yeah. The Chatterley.

1:17:59 Guest Oh my God.

1:18:00 Adam For Christ's sake. There was the Chatterley and then there was a whole series of that. And then there was all the Emanuel series. And there's Chatterley had like three or four. Emanuel, I swear to Christ, is now in outer space. That's one of the things I've seen like on the late night Cinemax schedule. Emanuel in outer space. And you know you're getting old when Emanuel's made it to outer space. Because she was in parts of England and she was everywhere. But the fact that she's actually in outer space at this point means I'm getting old. Sandy?

1:18:33 Guest Yes?

1:18:33 Adam You're 24?

1:18:34 Guest Yes.

1:18:35 Adam What's up?

1:18:37 Guest Well, I wanted to talk to Dr. Drew about this pain that I've had for about two and a half years. It's in my side like I would say the front part of the hip bone maybe a couple inches in from that, like one or two inches in from that.

1:18:52 Drew On the left side?

1:18:53 Guest Yeah, on my left side. Vertebral bowel. Is that what it is? Yeah. Okay.

1:19:00 Adam Are you gassy?

1:19:01 Guest I'm sorry?

1:19:02 Adam Do you let a lot of gas fly?

1:19:05 Guest Well, not a lot, but more than before.

1:19:08 Drew Do you have diarrhea and constipation, those sorts of problems?

1:19:11 Guest Yeah, mostly when I'm on my period.

1:19:14 Drew Do you get an ultrasound to make sure you don't have an ovarian cyst or anything?

1:19:17 Guest Yeah, they did an ultrasound and they also did a colonoscopy.

1:19:20 Drew Okay.

1:19:21 Guest As the doctor said, I feel like it's a catch-all and it hurts when I have sex.

1:19:27 Adam What did the doctor say?

1:19:28 Guest That it was irritable bowel.

1:19:30 Adam Okay. So the fact that Drew says it's irritable bowel.

1:19:33 Guest Confirms it. No, I'm still not completely convinced. I don't know.

1:19:38 Adam All right. Well, who cares then?

1:19:39 Drew Pain during sex is not-

1:19:40 Caller There's a pill for that now.

1:19:42 Drew Irritable bowel. Well, it doesn't really-

1:19:44 Caller There's an infomercial on this one. I've heard on that.

1:19:46 Adam Oh, I mean, Drew, you just heard-

1:19:48 Drew But let me ask this.

1:19:50 Adam Oh, it says it up on the screen, so you cheated.

1:19:52 Drew I was cheating, so to make it fun.

1:19:53 Adam Oh, Drew was cheating. All right, forget it. Sorry.

1:19:55 Drew Let me ask you this.

1:19:56 Adam My mistake.

1:19:57 Drew Here's the interesting question is, do you have any history of sexual abuse? Yes. Yeah. That's really where the pain is coming from, the sexual intercourse pain and stuff. That's much more the issue here. Also, irritable bowel and irritable bowel type functional pain in the pelvis is real common from sexual abuse.

1:20:13 Adam Who sexually abused you?

1:20:16 Guest I had an aunt and an uncle and it happened over and over.

1:20:23 Adam With your aunt and your uncle?

1:20:24 Guest Well, not together. I mean, it was separate incidences.

1:20:28 Adam But your aunt and your uncle sexually abused you? Yeah. Oh my God. Do they have kids? Hold on a second. I want to vomit. Go ahead.

1:20:36 Guest Yes. My aunt has a couple of kids.

1:20:39 Drew Did you report?

1:20:40 Guest No. I was too young to have said anything when I was...

1:20:43 Drew Yeah, but you need to report it now. You need to report this. Because they may be doing God knows what to their kids.

1:20:49 Adam Couple of kids?

1:20:50 Guest Yeah. Well, they live in Mexico too.

1:20:53 Adam Shocking. And what the hell are they doing there?

1:20:57 Guest Well, that's where... I spent a couple of years there when I was younger. My mom couldn't... I guess she was too young when she had me. So she sent me to my grandparents.

1:21:07 Adam Is it a cultural thing over there? Not a big deal?

1:21:10 Guest I think it's a cross-cultural thing.

1:21:13 Drew Yeah, but pelvic pain is real common when you have a sexual abuse history and are things like functional pain, bowel... it'll bowel, that sort of stuff. So you can pretty much rest assured this is from that history.

1:21:23 Guest That it's from that. I guess it was just weird because I was very promiscuous, surprise, surprise, when I was younger.

1:21:29 Drew But that's part of the...

1:21:30 Guest And it never really hurt... well, never hurt back then.

1:21:33 Drew Yeah, but that was when you were sort of intoxicating yourself with the sexual acting act.

1:21:36 Guest Right.

1:21:37 Drew Yeah, it's true. So now you're trying...

1:21:38 Guest This was actually somebody I cared about.

1:21:40 Drew Yeah, you're now actually having real relationships and magically the pain of that becomes more real.

1:21:46 Adam What's your aunt and uncle do over there in Mexico?

1:21:48 Guest My aunt's a housewife. And her... well...

1:21:53 Drew What did she do to you and how old were you?

1:21:55 Guest When I lived there I was like seven and eight. And I know for sure it was like... she went down on me and I went down on her.

1:22:05 Drew And she was how old?

1:22:06 Guest She was probably like nineteen or like... she was like high school, early college age.

1:22:14 Adam And what did your uncle do?

1:22:17 Guest I remember...

1:22:19 Guest I really don't think I remember enough to say, but like I remember being French kissed by him and like being in bed with him.

1:22:26 Adam I mean, what's he do for a living actually?

1:22:28 Guest He's an engineer.

1:22:29 Adam Oh, an engineer.

1:22:30 Drew Do they have laws down there to go after people like that?

1:22:33 Guest No, I really don't think so.

1:22:34 Adam I didn't know they had engineers over there. Okay.

1:22:37 Drew She means a whoo-hoo.

1:22:38 Adam Oh, you mean drives one of those kiddie trains? Is it being pulled by a mule or is it an actual steam train?

1:22:45 Caller Okay, they're industrialized.

1:22:47 Adam Listen, let's say, I hope those two die some sort of horribly ghastly death. I really do.

1:22:54 Drew Absolutely.

1:22:54 Adam They're really evil. I know you let it go, but I'm not over it.

1:22:58 Drew And your brain has wired a certain way because of it and you're having to deal with the remnants of it. Thank God you seem to be sort of getting through this and starting to have real relationships now.

1:23:06 Adam Yeah. How f'd up? Jeez, I spent the whole day with my nephews today. I had two of them. I only blew one of them once, by the way.

1:23:15 Drew Lynette said one of them doesn't like sports so much. He pitched with my kids yesterday.

1:23:19 Adam Look, my sister hauled off and named my oldest nephew Casper, so I knew it was going to be a bust from that point on. So I figure he's gay already.

1:23:29 Drew But one of them doesn't like sports.

1:23:30 Adam I don't have time for him, but I go with the other one. The little one. I'm going to try to salvage him. So here's my take. Instead of split my time up trying to make them both straight, Casper, he's gay already just because of the name, I'm going to focus on Finn, who's the younger one. Not as gay as Casper. Not as gay as Casper.

1:23:51 Drew Is he?

1:23:51 Adam Try to focus on him.

1:23:52 Drew Finn?

1:23:53 Adam Yeah. Finn.

1:23:55 Drew Does that translate into something in German?

1:23:58 Adam Finn means I'm not gay in German.

1:23:59 Drew Okay. Finn's there. Did you enjoy pitching with kids yesterday?

1:24:02 Adam Oh yeah. I played ball with Drew's kids yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. I like it.

1:24:07 Drew They're getting pretty serious.

1:24:08 Adam Yeah. They're throwing that hard ball pretty good. Got down in the stands and I got in the squat, caught them, brought my mitt over to Drew's house. Nice. Oh, yes. A lot of people would not think to bring the mitt to an adult nighttime party, but not me. I said, I got to bring my mitt. Eli? Hi, yes. Yes, you're 28. What's up? And by the way, you know, that last call was from Altadena, and we had a conversation earlier tonight about Altadena, I believe, Pete was in on it, off the air. And I don't remember us getting, we don't get many calls from Altadena.

1:24:44 Drew So, we talked about the dairy, we talked about Five Acres.

1:24:47 Adam That's right. Eli?

1:24:49 Caller Hi, yes, I teach high school, so I have some education. But my ex-wife recently, my eldest son, said, quote-unquote, a roommate moved in. And I've met him. He has quite an effeminate voice. My boys, my eldest is eight years old, and my second youngest is four years old.

1:25:07 Caller And he works with abused kids.

1:25:10 Caller So, he works with young kids. And I just kind of, are there two things that I really need to know? Are there any stats on people with effeminate voice and their predisposition toward homosexuality?

1:25:22 Drew No.

1:25:22 Caller And this, okay, the second thing is, the second thing is, are there those out there that can pretty highly tell if a kid's been abused if I pay somebody to, you know, take the kid in?

1:25:34 Drew Yeah, I would think.

1:25:35 Caller What are their rates?

1:25:36 Drew I have no idea, but there, I mean, child psychologists, psychiatrists do have to make those kinds of assessments.

1:25:42 Adam I think they go by the way to the kid, don't they, for us, not an hourly thing.

1:25:45 Drew Were you worried about this guy as being an abuser?

1:25:49 Caller No, he's got a couple things that I mean, obviously, is with my ex-wife.

1:25:55 Drew Does she have a history of picking abusers? Was her dad a, was she sexually abused?

1:25:59 Caller No, they're Humboldt, Granola, solar-powered house and stuff. I think they're mellow. I don't think there's a situation there.

1:26:06 Drew That has nothing to do with anything.

1:26:07 Adam Humboldt, Granola, solar-powered house.

1:26:09 Caller Humboldt.

1:26:11 Adam They smoke weed and complain about, they complain about the man all the time.

1:26:15 Caller Yeah.

1:26:15 Drew But look, if she was sexually abused, she would have a tendency to bring abusers into her house.

1:26:21 Caller She's only been with myself and this guy that I'm aware of, so.

1:26:25 Adam OK. Do you have a relationship with her now?

1:26:31 Caller When I started seeing another female, Lairs got involved, the bills went up. Now we do chat. We've been chatting for about four months.

1:26:38 Adam All right. So you do. You're friendly with her?

1:26:40 Caller We've been legally divorced for three years.

1:26:43 Caller You still lube it up?

1:26:44 Adam Hey, hold on. Hold on. Eli, for an educated guy, doesn't know what the F anyone's talking about.

1:26:50 Drew Ask the question the fourth time now.

1:26:53 Adam What I'm trying to say is, you know, some guys talk with their exes and some guys don't. And if you're, you know, you have a nice relationship, a friendly relationship, you can actually have a talk with her. Hey, I'm worried about the eight-year-old. You know, I know he's living over here with this new guy. And I have a couple of questions, which is definitely not out of line if you both love your child. So when did the papers go through again?

1:27:17 Caller So it sounds like the most effective thing to do is to engage her in conversation. Yeah.

1:27:22 Adam Yeah.

1:27:22 Caller A lot of conversation.

1:27:23 Adam That's right.

1:27:24 Caller And I do have three pictures that he drew me. My youngest son, Jacob, he drew me three pictures.

1:27:30 Caller Is there a lot of meaning in those?

1:27:31 Adam Well, let's look at them here.

1:27:33 Drew What are you going to show them, Adam?

1:27:34 Adam There's number one, he's putting a crucifix up his ass. Oh, that could be some meaning. That's fairly benign.

1:27:41 Caller I can actually see, guys, the beautiful Ukrainian woman.

1:27:44 Caller I mean, whatever you want.

1:27:46 Caller I just want to make sure my kids are safe.

1:27:47 Adam Ukraine?

1:27:48 Drew What?

1:27:49 Adam Well, what are the pictures? What are the pictures?

1:27:51 Caller Basically, I have a face with a knife kind of going at the bottom of the face and it's a frown situation.

1:28:00 Caller I have one eye larger than the other, crew cut looking.

1:28:03 Caller I have another that looks elliptical with a line.

1:28:06 Adam Well, wait a minute. The one eye large, the kids are, they have a lot of asymmetry when they draw. They're not very good at that.

1:28:11 Drew Is it a three-year-old, four-year-old?

1:28:13 Caller Four-year-old, yes.

1:28:14 Adam Okay, one eye bigger than the other.

1:28:15 Caller Okay, and then I have kind of an elliptical with a lot of scribbles in it.

1:28:20 Adam Aha!

1:28:20 Caller And then I have...

1:28:21 Adam Sodomy. Go ahead.

1:28:23 Caller That's no meaning.

1:28:24 Caller And then I have something that looks kind of like an elephant nose with a line going...

1:28:28 Adam Right. The elephant represents the phallus, obviously. That's the penis. The line going across that is the sort of universal no-penis thing. He's making a statement. He's saying that, you know, he's protesting against the penis, which is obviously the penis of this new guy has been brought into his environment.

1:28:46 Caller So it sounds like...

1:28:46 Adam That's pretty crystal clear.

1:28:48 Caller Some do caution, but not...

1:28:49 Drew It sounds like nothing's...

1:28:51 Adam The good news is only two out of the three drawings would indicate abuse, rape or anything like that, okay?

1:28:57 Drew There's nothing to indicate abuse by what you're saying. The only thing... You have to assess your odds based on this guy's history, and if he had been abused, he only has about a 60% chance of being an abuser.

1:29:08 Adam Hold on a second.

1:29:08 Drew But the higher issue is, the more significant issue is, what is the wife's history? First of all, she married Eli, number one. And number two, was she sexually abused? Does she bring abusive people into her life? And if she does, then she's likely to do that again.

1:29:22 Adam Yeah. Drew, I have a picture from my youth I'd like you to examine. I didn't draw it myself. Somebody drew it of me at Disneyland. I have the big eyes and the big Donny Osmond smile, and I'm riding a surfboard.

1:29:40 Drew Is that a surfboard?

1:29:41 Adam See the girls in the bikini next to me? Big heart bubbles going off around them.

1:29:45 Drew Yeah. You with some sudsy drink.

1:29:48 Adam Yeah.

1:29:49 Caller That's nice.

1:29:51 Adam Drew, don't improvise, please. Ever again.

1:29:53 Drew You kicked me out too.

1:29:54 Adam How many times I tell you to stay on prompter on this show. Don't ever drift from that prompter. We're going to take a little break. Pete Yorn and WAZ are both here. We will come back and talk to you after this.

1:30:06 Guest Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, we'll be right back.

1:30:44 Adam Hey, everybody. Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Pete and WAZ are both here from the Pete Yorn band and music for the Morning Afters. The name of the CD out with Matchbox 20. I don't know why 2020 popped into my mind. I think they sung a song called X-Ray Eyes from 1981 or something. K-Rock would have played back then. Also, Train. They're going to be out on tour and through the whole month of September. So look for them and come into a town near you. Let's talk to Elise who's been on hold for 95 minutes.

1:31:26 Guest Hi.

1:31:26 Adam Hi. Sorry for keeping you on hold so long.

1:31:29 Guest It's okay.

1:31:30 Adam All right. So you have a question about sleep apnea?

1:31:32 Guest Yeah. I had called you guys like two weeks ago for anxiety problems. And the therapist I'm going to won't put me on anxiety medicines because she doesn't think that that would help me.

1:31:50 Adam Okay.

1:31:51 Guest So we're trying to find the cause of it. And I was wondering if sleep apnea could cause anxiety or depression because my mom has it.

1:31:59 Drew Yeah. But you don't get that at 16.

1:32:01 Guest You sure?

1:32:02 Drew Well, do you weigh more than 300 pounds?

1:32:04 Guest No.

1:32:05 Adam Okay.

1:32:05 Drew It would be very, very unlikely.

1:32:07 Adam She's 295. So she just made the cut. And you don't get sleep apnea at 16?

1:32:13 Drew Do you have a lot of obstruction? Do you have a deviated septum, that kind of thing?

1:32:17 Guest Well, the only thing I can think of is like my mom, when she had it, got really violent and couldn't control her temper towards my dad, and I'm kind of the same way.

1:32:28 Drew Yeah, that's more than just sleep apnea, believe me. Promise.

1:32:31 Adam It'd be nice if it was, though.

1:32:33 Drew Yeah, I wish just correcting sleep apnea could correct those sorts of behaviors, but it doesn't.

1:32:37 Guest Do you know what else could cause anxiety?

1:32:40 Adam Well, growing up in an environment where you got a crazy mom who's trying to kill dad is probably good enough.

1:32:46 Drew Yeah.

1:32:46 Guest That's plenty.

1:32:47 Drew Yeah. When you basically, anxiety is two different sort of, it's hard to explain in a couple of minutes, but basically some of it is a behavior. You learn anxiety and you can unlearn it, so people will be with their behavioral ways of dealing with it. The other thing is when you don't get the adequate emotional nourishment you need to develop essential competencies of yourself, you don't get to experience your genuine emotional world and all your sort of brainlets you have is anxiety because you feel like you can't manage feelings all the time. Basically that's what I'm thinking about.

1:33:18 Adam All right. So, so Lisa, yes, so Lisa?

1:33:22 Guest Yeah.

1:33:22 Adam Yeah. Sorry. I know you drifted off there, been on hold for a long time. You're, you're going to a therapist, right?

1:33:29 Guest Yeah.

1:33:29 Drew All right.

1:33:30 Adam So, so keep going and instead of sort of trying to diagnose yourself as to what the problem could be, why don't you just keep with the therapy? Talk out your problems, try to work a few things out, get a little exercise, and listen to some classical music.

1:33:46 Drew You know, there are some studies recently on depression and anxiety that show that exercise did as well as certain medications.

1:33:51 Adam Listen, there's nothing that can't be cured, nothing emotionally can't be cured by some classical music, some long walks, and beating the crap out of a heavy bag. I'm telling you.

1:34:02 Drew I'll quote you on that.

1:34:03 Caller What about masturbation?

1:34:04 Adam And, oh, I didn't say masturbation?

1:34:06 Caller Because God knows, it works for me.

1:34:08 Adam Well, when I said beating the crap out of a heavy bag, it's kind of a euphemism, heavy bag being your penis.

1:34:14 Caller Exactly.

1:34:15 Adam Dude, you beat off. The WB.

1:34:19 Caller Matt?

1:34:20 Caller Yeah?

1:34:21 Adam You're 14?

1:34:22 Caller Yeah.

1:34:22 Adam What's up?

1:34:24 Guest Well, there's this girl that I've known for about a year. And whenever I see her, I'm like, I look at her, and I have a feeling inside, and I like, can't stop thinking about her.

1:34:35 Drew You're gay. No, you're 14 and you're a male. Enjoy. This is going on for about five years.

1:34:41 Adam Right.

1:34:42 Drew How about living? Then you'll go on a rageful terror against women.

1:34:45 Adam You want to ask her out?

1:34:46 Guest Yeah, and I don't know how to.

1:34:50 Adam Go up to her and start talking about movies.

1:34:53 Guest Okay.

1:34:53 Caller Ask her if she wants to get a sandwich.

1:34:55 Drew Okay. Adam's a good idea because if she starts talking about movies she'd love to see, that's your opportunity.

1:35:01 Adam She wants you to ask her out.

1:35:03 Drew That's her message to you that she wants you to ask her to that movie. If she starts telling you she hates movies, she's not interested in them, she just wants to talk about it, back off.

1:35:12 Adam Yeah, like that American Pie 2.

1:35:16 Guest Yeah.

1:35:16 Adam Have you seen that?

1:35:18 Guest No.

1:35:18 Drew They're not old enough, are they?

1:35:19 Adam Oh, they're not? Is that rated R?

1:35:20 Drew I think so.

1:35:21 Adam Yeah. How about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?

1:35:23 Drew Princess Diary.

1:35:24 Adam Princess Diary. What it is is you bring up a movie and you go, if you've seen this one and if she goes, no, I haven't seen that one, I've been wanting to see that one, you're in. You ask her out. If she goes, I've seen it, I heard it was bad or I don't know that then you're out. That's how you can figure out where the chick wants to go out with you before you ask her out. You can just bring up anything and if they're in on it, you bring up like mountain bikes. You go, oh man, I got a new mountain bike. I love mountain bike. They'll go, I love mountain biking too or I've always wanted to go mountain biking.

1:35:59 Drew You need to continue to engage with you in discussion or where there's opportunity to see again. That's your cue.

1:36:05 Adam Right. But if they go, I had a groin injury when I was young and the doctor said- Then you bring up something else. Right. Yeah. So you just bring up stuff and they're either in or they're out and then you don't have to ask them out. Nice. If they're in, you just keep going with that progression. All right. Well, we'll see the movie. Okay. Listen, never worked for me, but I think it's going to work for young listeners. We'll be back.

1:36:28 Caller All right, guys.

1:36:29 Caller Bottom line, here's the deal.

1:36:30 Caller Looking to hook up. Sick of wasting time with the wrong person.

1:36:33 Caller One call is all you need to make.

1:36:35 Caller Call the Dateline.

1:36:36 Drew 877-889-DATE.

1:36:42 Caller Loveline, with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:36:43 Caller 1-800-LOVE-1-91.

1:36:48 Caller We'll be right back.

1:37:16 Adam All righty. Well, the show was interesting during the commercial, so I'll say that right now.

1:37:21 Drew Yeah, that's the best part of the show. It's bad that people didn't hear that.

1:37:23 Adam I want to thank Terry, WAZ, and Pete all coming in here from the Pete Yorn band. Music for the Morning After is the name of the CD. peteyorn.com is where they can find more information, tour dates, things like that.

1:37:36 Caller peteyorn.com.

1:37:37 Adam Thanks a lot, guys.

1:37:38 Caller Thanks for coming in.

1:37:39 Adam It was enjoyable, and next time you're in town.

1:37:43 Drew Come on in.

1:37:44 Adam Come on in.

1:37:45 Caller Thanks.

1:37:45 Adam So until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. I blew this drifter once, and he was a mess. I was trying. I don't know what I was thinking.

1:37:54 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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