Episode 1000754886876

1:13 Voiceover Hey everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla, that is Dr. Drew over there, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician and Addiction Medicine Specialist. My call time tomorrow for Son of the Beach is 7 a.m. How was it this morning? Well, it was a late call time, it was 7.30.

1:34 Drew Did they start at 7.30?

1:35 Adam No, but I got a breakfast burrito, so all was good. This is killing me. Okay. What's going on? Oh, yes. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. Dedee is, well, you know her. Well, I know her being a Sybil fan, as her eldest daughter, of course. You also know her from For Your Love, which is on Sunday nights, 9.30 on the www.wb. 4 season, and the premiere is this Sunday. You know her as Michelle Pfeiffer's much younger sister. And you'll now know her naked. She's in Playboy this month, February.

2:24 Dedee Pfeiffer And on the cover.

2:26 Adam Well, this is what you call serendipity, because I was on, I don't want to bore everybody with my stories, but here goes, I'll be real fast.

2:36 Drew When have you held back?

2:37 Dedee Pfeiffer Two hours right here, right? So go ahead.

2:38 Adam I was on the phone with someone by the name of Cheryl Lynch, who's Jeremy McGrath's publicist, who's a great lady, wrangling a bunch of tickets to the Supercross race this Saturday in Anaheim. And she said, did you see February's Playboy? And I said, no, I didn't. And she said, there's an article on Jeremy in it. And I said, oh, well, I have to check that out. And 20 minutes later, well, here it is in my lap, everybody. And I get to see Dedee naked as well, too. Is this on? I feel uncomfortable looking.

3:09 Dedee Pfeiffer Correction, the magazine that's sitting here. I have clothes on right now.

3:11 Drew Her husband's sitting right behind the glass.

3:13 Adam Oh, is that him?

3:13 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, he's hugely Latin.

3:15 Adam That's all right. Now I'm really not going to look at it, I mean, until I get home. And then I'm going to chew on it. But here, I'm going to pretend like I don't care. I'll just flip through it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me just see if I can. You know what? They put all these inserts. I'm going to go, I'm going to bring this in the bathroom. Don't soil it, Drew, and I'll look at it during the break. All right? Yeah. All right. Now, what made you do it? The money?

3:42 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, no, actually.

3:44 Adam I just thought I'd try.

3:45 Dedee Pfeiffer Hey, why not? Actually, I did it for a lot of different reasons, actually. I did it about a year ago. The idea actually came from my manager, JP, I have to give him credit for it. I hit a place in my career and in my life that I've been acting for almost 20 years. Yes, I'm Michelle Pfeiffer's sister. I have a body of work that if you look on the Internet, in case you don't know who I am, you'll actually say, oh, wait a minute, that was her in that? Oh, wait a minute, that was her in that? So I'm a character actress.

4:13 Drew That's a good thing. I always consider that's a huge compliment when you go, oh my God, that was that person. It's true.

4:18 Dedee Pfeiffer I've been in interviews where the casting director or the director would look at the resume and went, oh, wait a minute. As they're going down, all my credits are like, that was you in that? Oh, I love that movie. Then they go, oh, okay, I see it. That is you. I'm always so flattered. Or people come up to me in the grocery store and go, I know you. I don't know you, but I know I know you. Then they go, what have you done? I'm like, oh my, you're going to make me sit here for five minutes and draw off, I don't know how many TV episodes and feature films, but one thing that people do know me for is being Michelle's sister, so I was like, well, I thought it was time to kind of do something that not only shake up that a little bit, but also as myself as a woman, it was my way of embracing my sexuality and the wild side. People who know me personally didn't bat an eye when they found out I was doing this. They were like, that is so Dedee, that is so me because I'm so wild and outrageous and I'm not apologetic for who I am and the differences between my sister and I. So it was a way to really get that out there.

5:15 Drew We were having this conversation last night, weren't we? About how people can do a million even primetime television. Now people have no idea who they are yet we do some crappy show on, gets no ratings, we take them to the airport.

5:29 Adam Yeah. I think we're talking about this off the air though.

5:31 Drew No, it was on the air.

5:32 Adam It was on the air? I can no longer distinguish my life from on the air and off the air.

5:37 Drew Or I can't, one of us can't.

5:39 Adam I didn't pee in an ice bucket in here last night.

5:41 Drew No, that was at home.

5:42 Okay, good.

5:44 Adam No ice in it. It was cool.

5:45 Okay.

5:46 Adam Well, let me float a Playboy theory. You tell me if any of this rings true. I believe that most all women would love to look great in Playboy. I really have not met a woman who if you prodded her a little, wouldn't admit that she'd love to be sort of immortalized this way. And with women and with men and with human beings, let's face it, there's a window.

6:14 Dedee Pfeiffer Right.

6:14 Adam And that window will eventually close, and you'll have no great pictures of you in your youth looking fantastic.

6:22 Dedee Pfeiffer When you're 90, you don't really want to do Playboy when you're 90. It's not sexy or attractive.

6:26 Adam But also, so many people have done Playboy over the years that have been celebrities and notables and non-Playmates, that it almost makes it okay, doesn't it?

6:38 Dedee Pfeiffer That's the, a lot of people have asked me recently in interviews, oh, do you think this is going to hurt you? And I said, absolutely not. I think that we live in a time now where women are no longer apologetic for being sexy, sexual, smart, professional, warm, loving. We can be mothers, we can be wives. We can be all of these things. And you can be all of these things. It used to be if you're a Playboy and you pose nude, and you're actually not considered smart or it might deprive you of a job. Well, that's no longer true. Like you said, Sharon Stone has done it. Drew Barrymore, I mean, the list goes on.

7:06 Adam Well, and it also used to be something you did when you couldn't do something else. Now, there's people-

7:12 Dedee Pfeiffer I was actually doing, I was still on the show for For Your Love.

7:15 Adam Well, that's my point. I mean, now there's people who were doing other things and are doing other things who are doing it as well.

7:21 Dedee Pfeiffer But you're right though, because it's funny, at home, in my private time, at night, I have the candles lit and I'm wearing something by myself. You look in the mirror and you go, oh yeah, I could do Playboy, oh yeah, I could do it. And every woman secretly by themselves goes, oh yeah, I think, in this angle, actually, I'm not so bad. But then at 10 o'clock in the morning, when you're there with a photographer and a guy's lighting you and a woman's doing your hair and makeup and it's cold in the soundstage or a studio, and they go, okay, you know, do it. Fans are going and they play music for you. It's very funny because I got really shy fast and I got very scared. So immediately I realized it actually was a fear for me. As wild and crazy and outrageous as I am, I actually was like, oh my God, I'm actually about to do this. So it was wonderful to embrace this fear of saying, look at the camera and just break down all these inhibitions and just go, if you're going to do this, really commit to it and do it. And then don't look back, don't apologize and embrace it. So it was actually kind of scary in a weird way, but wonderfully liberating once I did it. I was like, well, I don't really think I can be much more embarrassed than this at all, because everyone will have seen all of me.

8:23 Adam Well, that's my philosophy with fears. I look at square in the eye and then I beat off and take a nap.

8:30 Dedee Pfeiffer Or there's that. That's an option.

8:31 Adam That's my move. That's how I approach life. And you know, it's not for everybody. But for a select certain breed of cat, just a handful of guys, that's the code we live by. I don't apologize for it. All right, Drew. You ready here? I'm ready. Anything we're missing? No? Okay.

8:50 Drew I'm just thinking about the picture of Santa Claus's beard and mouth they might get from you.

8:54 Adam How dare you, Drew. I could pose for a place pen or play something. Josie?

9:06 Drew Yes.

9:06 Adam You're 20.

9:08 Drew Yes.

9:08 Adam What's up?

9:10 Okay. So I'm just wondering what you guys think. If masturbating one time a day to four times a day is excessive.

9:21 Drew For a male or female?

9:23 Female.

9:25 Adam I would say there's a big difference between one time and four times a day.

9:29 Drew Is a four time your, what's your average?

9:32 Average is probably close like once a day, and then there's probably two days out of the week where it's like four times a day.

9:39 Adam You use a vibrator?

9:40 Sometimes.

9:41 Adam What's the average on the vibrator?

9:44 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm actually curious to see what you're going to say, keeping it professional, because personally, I don't think the four times is excessive, speaking personally for myself when I'm single and alone. I actually think that it keeps you out of trouble, and it's safe, and it's healthy, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about. Actually, I think it's taking really good care of yourself, actually.

10:02 At one time, it was. When I talk to my friends about it, I mean, a lot of them don't even say they don't even masturbate.

10:09 Drew A lot of them don't.

10:09 Dedee Pfeiffer That's true.

10:11 And I've only had four sexual partners and feel it's safer than going out and having random sex, but...

10:16 Dedee Pfeiffer Absolutely.

10:17 Adam Well, wait a minute. Okay. Yeah, you sitting home in your one-bedroom apartment with the deadbolt locked and the vibrator going, I would say that would be safer than...

10:25 Drew Speaking of safety, you know, people are always asking us, what's the risk? What's the risk? What percent risk is there from doing fill in the blank, anal sex, whatever? Right. Just today, somebody came out with a model, a mathematical model that tried to answer that question. And here's what they found out. Oral sex is twice as risky as... No, performing oral sex is twice as risky as receiving oral sex.

10:48 Adam Oh, okay. So let me process that. Okay. So it's much, much riskier, male or female, doesn't matter?

10:55 Dedee Pfeiffer You can give it than to receive it.

10:56 Adam You mean in terms of what?

10:58 Drew That's how this is...

10:59 Adam In terms of what? Aids?

11:01 Drew Aids. This is aids.

11:02 Adam Oh, Drew, you're so horrible.

11:04 Drew Compared to receiving oral sex, insertive vaginal sex is 10 times more risky than oral sex.

11:11 Adam Okay. Receiving it or giving it?

11:14 Drew It doesn't specify.

11:15 Adam Oh, well that thing... Why not?

11:17 Drew Then it goes down, then it starts to specify. But hang on, let's read this out. Insertive anal sex is 13 times more dangerous. So, insertive means you're the one inserting. Receptive vaginal is 20 times more hazardous.

11:29 Adam Okay, wait a minute. Okay, insertive anal sex means I'm bopping you.

11:35 Drew Yes, me.

11:36 Adam In the ass, right?

11:37 Drew And that for you is 13 times more dangerous than giving me oral sex.

11:41 Adam 13, that's it?

11:42 Drew Yeah, that's the number.

11:43 Adam Oh, but then giving you oral sex because you have infected semen. But if I was giving Dedee oral sex and the night is young, how much different would it be? And it doesn't specify that.

11:54 Drew It doesn't specify.

11:55 Adam That's why it's worthless.

11:56 Drew Hold on, receptive vaginal sex is 20 times more hazardous and receptive anal sex 100 times more hazardous. So it's basically giving a hierarchy of risk, a number on the hierarchy of risk.

12:05 Adam You don't want to be catching.

12:07 Drew So if performing oral sex is one.

12:10 Adam Right.

12:10 Drew This is considered one. Receiving is two. Inserting into a vagina is 10 times.

12:17 Adam Well, why is receiving?

12:19 Drew Receiving is 20 times.

12:21 Adam Why is receiving oral sex? I thought you just said giving was worse.

12:25 Drew I beg your pardon.

12:27 Adam You're right. True. You're right. Listen, you know what you need to do? Read that over and then burn it. We're trying to go through it, but now we're all jumbled with numbers now. Here's what I want you to do. Drew, please, please. Off the air. I want you to read this thing over, give it a little 1 to 10 scoring thing, and then we'll do it because these numbers are really confusing.

12:48 Drew Well, the point is it's scary to do this always. You know what I mean? It doesn't really mean anything. It's just sort of putting a hierarchy of risk in the behavior. That's all.

12:56 Adam Right. And do that. Figure out that. But do it during the commercial.

13:01 Dedee Pfeiffer No, to me, it sounds like masturbation once again is probably the safest after all.

13:04 Adam Well, let me ask you this, Dedee. As a guy, I always tell guys, look, you get home, it's 2 in the morning, you go for the free newspaper, you start calling escort services or phone sex, you run up a credit card bill, you get into trouble. Just beat off and go to bed. If you just beat yourself off, you'd stay out of so much trouble and save so much money. Absolutely. One of my drunken buddies called two escorts. One of them showed up. He got in an argument with them. Okay. He gets an argument with the first one. The pimp says he's getting a shotgun and coming back and killing him.

13:45 Dedee Pfeiffer See, that's just nothing but trouble right there.

13:47 Adam I know. So he calls the cops and says, hey, it doesn't say I called an escort service, this crazy guy's got a shotgun, he's coming over to get me. The cops show up and while the cops are standing there, the other escort shows up. Now they're all standing in this guy's apartment and he's loaded. That, if you just beat off.

14:04 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah. Again, masturbation.

14:06 Drew It's like your new book, If You Just Beat Off.

14:08 Adam If You Just Beat Off. But is it that way with women? I mean, not as much as men, I'm sure, but is there an element of that? You've had a few glasses of wine, you're thinking about calling some old boyfriend, you shouldn't be calling.

14:19 Dedee Pfeiffer And girls do it, listen, as much as I'd like to not admit it, a couple margaritas, a couple glasses of wine, they feel a little lonely, they start calling men that if they were sober, they wouldn't call. And really at the end of the day, they wake up the next morning going, oh, Nessie, now I either left an embarrassing message trying to act like I was not looking for a booty call at one in the morning. Or when you really could have saved face, and like you said, I think that it applies 100% with women as well.

14:42 Adam Well, it's true, that's interesting. We never really thought of, but we should have.

14:45 Dedee Pfeiffer Women are sexual just as men, it's just that we're just far more still embarrassed about it, at least I think we're getting better about it.

14:50 Drew You're not embarrassed about it, the biology is not as profoundly driven. Men are just driven.

14:54 Dedee Pfeiffer Well, that's true.

14:54 Drew Women have a drive that waxes and wanes, and sometimes it is going.

14:57 Dedee Pfeiffer And we're more emotional too. It's like often when women, for instance, men and I often think they might want sex, and that probably is true, but I think also they want intimacy, they want to be held, they want to, and of course, if sometimes sex happens, that just for men.

15:10 Drew To me, the behavior of sex addicts really spells out the difference between men and women. With female sex addicts, spend all their time in chat rooms. Male sex addicts spend all the time staring at things.

15:19 Adam Well, also, if you stopped 500 men who were age 40 and asked them how many times did they made some kind of drunk and bad judgment call for sex in the middle of the night, whether it be professional or some ex-girlfriend or someone who got married or whatever.

15:33 Dedee Pfeiffer Or just someone at a bar who was close enough in range.

15:35 Adam They'd all tell you 20 stories, and if you spoke to women, it wouldn't be as many. There'd be some, but not as many.

15:41 Dedee Pfeiffer And actually, my girlfriends just make phone calls and are humiliated the next morning, but also are very happy that all they did was left messages. But then, you know, because the guy was usually out. All right.

15:50 Adam Here's the hierarchy. No, no. That math was too fast. You check it during the break. Shana?

15:57 Caller Yeah?

15:57 Adam You're 17?

15:58 Caller Uh-huh.

15:59 Adam What's up?

16:00 Caller I was wondering, like, how can you tell if I'm, you know, about my sexuality, if I'm gay or, you know, my bi or something, because...

16:08 Drew You're a lesbian.

16:09 Caller Yeah. Well, because I've been, like, with a girl, right? And it was, like, four, like, three years ago. I was a freshman, and I was, like, with her, and I think she's, like, my best friend, and she moved away, and, you know, it's over with and everything, and I've tried to move on, move on to guys, stuff like that, but it's not happening, you know? I mean, they're there, and I don't know.

16:31 Adam Well, so wait a minute, you had an experience with this girl?

16:34 Drew I just see confusion is all I hear, Shana.

16:36 Caller Well, I was with her, you know, and we were doing things and something like playing around with each other and something like that, and I liked it, you know? I see these, you know, pornography and everything about girls and everything, and you think that's really funny.

16:50 Adam Pornography.

16:51 Drew Pornography, yes.

16:52 Adam I like that. All right, so women, you're attracted to women?

16:56 Caller Yeah, I mean, I'm not-

16:57 Adam Well, are you attracted to men?

16:59 Caller I am, I mean, I mean, you know, I see them and I go-

17:02 Drew Is there anything sort of, as we call it, spinning your compass or screwing your compass up? Are you sexually abused or physically abused? No. Nothing like that?

17:10 Adam Let me ask you a hypothetical. If you could think of one celebrity, rock star, actor, whoever, male or female, who you could have in your room for one night, who would it be?

17:23 Caller I would choose two. One a girl and one a guy.

17:26 Adam Oh, fascinating. Fascinating. How come everyone screws up, no matter how compelling my questions are, they manage to get screwed.

17:37 Dedee Pfeiffer You are the weakest link.

17:38 Caller Goodbye.

17:39 Dedee Pfeiffer Idiot.

17:40 Adam Hold on. Hold on. Shanna? You get one, goofball. Now, who is it? Angelina Jolie. All right. Lesbian.

17:50 Drew You're lesbian.

17:52 Adam Well, I mean, that's not a bad test, if you think about it. At least it's going to get you a little bit closer. It clarifies it. She wants, oh, it's not George Clooney, it's Angelina Jolie.

18:03 Dedee Pfeiffer You know, I think it's interesting, too, especially when you're younger and you're women and you do start experimenting with your sexuality. If you do enjoy being with the same sex, what I found through friends or things that I've heard.

18:14 Drew Friends.

18:16 Dedee Pfeiffer Friends of friends and friends reading books and things. That there is that question because and I think what happens is that for a woman, they experience something with another woman that they find difficult to find in a man. So they start to say, oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm gay. And that doesn't mean that they are or not.

18:30 Drew Women are much more fluid. Men when they, men don't experiment like that.

18:34 Dedee Pfeiffer True. Yeah. And a woman is also a little bit more apprehensive to maybe be so open with their sexuality with a man. So unless she runs across a guy who's similar to that woman in that experience, there's confusion there. So I think that happens often with women that I've seen. So especially when they're younger because they're still trying to find themselves, let alone a sexual maid and someone who stimulates someone in all different levels. And they don't really quite know what they want. So it's part of growing up.

19:02 Adam You got it. Absolutely.

19:03 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm not even sure if she should even be thinking about it, whether she's gay or not. Maybe she's just trying to grow up.

19:07 Drew I should agree with you. Unless there's some trauma that really is screwing up her identity, that needs to be sorted through, then she's part of her development.

19:17 Adam Yeah. Dedee, you got a camp story you want to tell us about?

19:22 Dedee Pfeiffer Actually, I think I've exposed myself in Heaven Playboy, but thank you very much.

19:25 Adam I smell the camp story coming up.

19:27 Dedee Pfeiffer Just trying to help.

19:28 Adam Paige?

19:29 Hi.

19:30 Adam You're 18?

19:31 Caller Yes, I am.

19:32 Adam What's up?

19:32 Caller I have a question. I've been on different antidepressants for about five years now, and the ones that work will work for a while, and then they taper off, and I'll need to either increase the dosage or switch to something. And I just started smoking pot again. I've stopped for like three years, and I was wondering, I'm kind of flipping back into a depression. I was wondering what is the possibility that that's because I've been smoking.

20:00 Drew Oh, that's, you can't, the antidepressants don't work when you're smoking pot.

20:03 Caller Oh, really?

20:04 Drew Forget it.

20:04 Caller Not at all. Really?

20:05 Adam Why not?

20:06 Drew They don't work. First of all, there's an addictive process underway, so there's a whole reward system operation that affects the effectiveness of antidepressants. And pretty much all drugs of addiction deplete the chemicals associated with depression that you're trying to raise with the antidepressants, so it's working directly against it.

20:25 Adam Right, but it's not like it renders the pill useless. It doesn't cancel it out. It's a bad idea.

20:31 Drew It doesn't cancel it, but interestingly, it makes it not effective. Maybe not completely ineffective, but just not effective.

20:38 Adam Besides, it's a good thing to say as a doctor anyway.

20:40 Drew No, no, it's more that than I would even expect, frankly.

20:44 Adam Okay, well, that means something. So Paige, could you stop doing that?

20:48 Caller No.

20:49 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, all right, that's honest.

20:52 Drew But I suspect, I would bet also you were doing some other drugs in that time when you were trying other antidepressants.

20:58 Caller Well, I had in the beginning, and I could do anything except Cinex cigarettes for like three years, and I just quit that a month ago.

21:06 Adam All right.

21:06 Caller So I guess I created all of them.

21:07 Dedee Pfeiffer Congratulations, that's a hard one.

21:09 Adam All right.

21:09 Drew Well, it's interestingly, and I don't have an explanation for why this happens, but if people have addiction, and they try to treat their addiction and their mood disturbances with antidepressants, they don't work. You may feel a little better, they may work for a while, but unless you treat your primary illness, which is the addiction, which has its own separate kind of treatment, it's unsatisfactory, the antidepressants by themselves.

21:32 Caller So you're saying I'm addicted to-

21:34 Drew I suspect you are. My time will tell. It sounds like you have that going. Is there a family history of alcoholism?

21:39 Caller Um, yeah, I'm on one side. All right.

21:41 Drew That's all you need. And so that's probably a big part of why this is- you're struggling with this.

21:47 Caller Is that the same thing with alcohol and anything?

21:49 Drew It's all the same.

21:50 Caller All right.

21:51 Drew All right?

21:51 Caller Well, thank you.

21:52 Adam All right, baby. Keep up that good fight. Listen, I like that Paige. She came in with the no.

21:59 Drew Real strong.

22:00 Adam I was halfway into presenting my plan for her, my 10-year plan, as you know, I had for all the callers and no. But then she heard everything you had to say and said thank you. That's all you.

22:12 Dedee Pfeiffer She's calling. That's fine right there.

22:13 Drew But all, listen, isn't it gratifying? People can do as they please, but the only thing that makes it frustrating is when they don't hear you. When they hear it, they listen, they take it and they go, that's not for me. Great. If it is someday, hope you remember this. Yeah.

22:28 Adam Well, yeah, here's what we want. We don't ask that everybody is cured. We would hope you do the right thing, but it's your choice and you're young and some people have to experience a few things before they're ready to quit.

22:41 Drew But what's frustrating is you give the explanation, they go, why don't I feel better? But I'm asking about the interpress, how can you make me feel better?

22:47 It's like, well, right.

22:49 Adam Well, what it is is they have an agenda. They want to do something. They ask Drew if it's safe. Drew says, no, it's not safe. So they ask again, instead of making a decision to either do it or not do it.

23:01 Dedee Pfeiffer Which is tough when you're young, too, is to say, okay, I'm going to take control over this, I'm going to be responsible, and I'm going to make the decision to say, no, I'm not going to do this, so the result is this. Or yes, I am. Yes, I am.

23:09 Drew Page was the yes, I am.

23:11 Adam All right. We will take ourselves a little break. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. She's currently on the cover of the February Playboy, which I'm sure is out in, is it out in newsstands now? Yes, it is. Yes, because they are always, Playboy seems to me pioneered that out early thing. That's my, or maybe that was the only magazine I was waiting to come out early. So that's the only one I noticed. Maybe the Christian Science Monitor had been doing it for years, and I just haven't caught up to it yet. We'll take a little break and we'll be back. Hey, yo, Loveline, I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew, Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. You can find her on the WB in her fourth season of Four Year Love, Sunday night at 9.30 is the premiere, and then every Sunday after that. Also on the cover of the February issue of Playboy. It's purple and she's the one on the cover with the peace sign looking good. Drew has deciphered this risk business, and is now going to share it with you. Now, this is like Drew was attempting to say earlier in the show, people call us, they want to know, is it dangerous to do this or do that as it pertains to HIV?

25:00 Drew Certain behaviors, what's my risk, what's my risk? They've figured out a way to put receiving oral sex as a very, very low risk.

25:06 Adam This is heterosexual sex.

25:09 Drew So, receiving is considered a one on the scale we're going to build here, and one is very, very low risk.

25:14 Adam So, the best thing you can do is get a BJ or have a guy go down on you if you're looking to avoid HIV.

25:21 Drew That's what you're thinking. That's what I'm thinking. You want a guy to go down on you. Okay.

25:24 Adam Right. That's what I'm thinking.

25:28 Drew Number two, the two times a risk is giving. So, giving oral sex is twice as risky as receiving.

25:35 Adam Right.

25:35 Drew Okay. Inserting into a vagina, a penis going into a vagina, the inserter.

25:40 Adam I'm not interested in those things, Drew. I like the BJs.

25:43 Drew Is it ten times the risk of the receptive oral sex? Inserting into the anus is thirteen times the risk.

25:49 Adam Which we thought was a little low.

25:51 Drew Yeah. It seems like it should be higher. It's twenty times riskier to receive vaginal sex than to receive oral sex.

25:59 Adam Well, no more of that.

26:00 Drew And one hundred times riskier to receive anal sex than to receive oral sex.

26:04 Adam Well, that we got to talk about because I'm not ready to quit cold turkey. The vaginal sex, I think I can wean myself off of. But getting the anal, that's going to be a tough sell to the cooly. Yeah. Is there some kind of brown patch or something I can put on, Drew? Is there anything? Something I can do? Just take the edge off a little bit.

26:26 Drew The penal patch?

26:27 Adam Yeah. I start getting the shakes. I haven't had anything up there in, let's say, three days. Start getting agitated on edge. No?

26:35 Drew Yeah, there's clonopin.

26:37 Adam Should I just take the bottle and stuff it in my ass? All right. Let's, that clonopin, that stuff makes you not nervous.

26:44 Drew Right.

26:44 Adam Good. Give me some of that.

26:45 Dedee Pfeiffer Orgain weight.

26:47 Adam Trish?

26:48 Caller Hello?

26:49 Adam You're 18?

26:50 Caller Yeah.

26:51 Adam Hold on. Drew, lower tilt that screen. Thank you. Go ahead.

26:54 Caller Yeah. I have a question about OCD, Obsessive Comorcial Disorder. And like from forever since I can remember, I've like had these different like symptoms. And so I've classified myself that like I have it.

27:07 Drew What are the symptoms?

27:08 Caller Like constantly liking things in order or like having all my like plates and everything clean completely or.

27:18 Drew And if they're not, what are you afraid might happen?

27:20 Adam Drew, what would peeing in the ice bucket, what would that classify as? That wouldn't be OCD, would it?

27:25 Drew No.

27:25 Adam Is there an opposite of that?

27:26 Drew No, in fact you might take down an OCD a couple of notch. You might, your neighbor who has OCD might lose some of their OCD.

27:31 Adam Living next to me?

27:32 Drew Just living next to you.

27:33 Adam All right.

27:34 Caller No, well like and if I like, I'm eating food, I don't like people like talking over it.

27:40 Drew What are you afraid, what are you afraid will happen if you don't engage in these rituals? What do you think?

27:45 Caller I'm not like afraid if something will happen. I just like, that's nasty. You're like talking over me while I'm eating and.

27:51 Drew Well, that's a preference.

27:54 Adam You're putting your plates in order.

27:57 Caller No, like the food and everything, I'm eating food and somebody's talking over it.

28:00 Drew We got that part, that's just a preference. How about?

28:03 Adam Nobody wants an auctioneer moving livestock over their plate. I'm with you on that. I got to do that now for when I'm 45, what was that? I don't know, that's sensible. But the part about, you called and said you had to put everything in order, for instance.

28:22 Caller I think forever, I like everything neat and proper.

28:26 Drew Yeah, but that's not, that's preference. That's everybody's.

28:29 Adam You know what people do on the shows? They call, they present a problem, and then they are the prosecuting attorney and the defense attorney at the same time. They start by saying, I have a problem, here's all the things I do. And then you start questioning them and they go, well, what's wrong with having clean shoes? And you go, I don't know, bitch, why'd you call? Well, surely, no one wants their food spat upon, okay.

28:53 Drew Nothing you've said sounds like obsessive compulsive disorder.

28:55 Adam Oh, wait a minute, where is Trish?

28:59 Dedee Pfeiffer If she can't help herself, is that compulsive? Like where she goes, I'd like to not clean. Yeah, where you look at something and it's dirty or out of order.

29:05 Drew There are obsessive compulsive traits that are not disorder. Disorder really is, it interferes with your functioning, the rituals are very involved, you have unpleasant feelings associated, you would not be able to complete them or you believe that there's gonna be something doom.

29:17 Adam Something bad's gonna happen if you don't do it.

29:19 Dedee Pfeiffer It's really upsetting if you can't get those positions in order.

29:22 Drew There needs to be intrusive thoughts and thinking that are unpleasant that you can't get out of your head.

29:26 Adam Do you think something bad will happen if you don't do these things?

29:30 Caller I don't know what it is.

29:32 Drew No, Trish, stop, stop.

29:34 Adam Don't call the show then if you don't know anything about anything.

29:37 Drew It's fine, you like things need, that's fine.

29:40 Caller And also if like certain times I don't like people like touching me because I'll feel like that's dirty too.

29:48 Drew Getting a little bit kind of funky about it.

29:50 Caller Like let's say somebody was to come up and hug me. Then I would be like feeling nasty and dirty.

29:56 Adam Armenian or what nationality?

29:58 Caller No, I'm African American.

30:00 Adam No, not you, I meant the person hugging you. Because that's a fact.

30:03 Caller No, like anybody.

30:04 Drew That to me more triggers thoughts that I have about somebody who has issue with boundaries. That whenever people violate your boundaries or your space, you feel angry and somehow you're going to push them away because they make you feel something that's very unpleasant when they invade those boundaries.

30:23 Adam Well, Trish, do you wash your hands a lot every day?

30:26 Caller Yeah, constantly.

30:27 Adam Okay.

30:28 Drew Do you hurt yourself by doing it? Do you make your pants chapper?

30:32 Caller Well, when I finish, they're like raisin me and dried up and wrinkle.

30:37 Adam Okay. Hey, I think this is a little OCD.

30:40 Drew A little bit. A little bit.

30:41 Adam Well, why aren't we? Hold on a second. Why aren't we just saying that's what this is? Because she's got that energy.

30:47 Drew She's got those traits.

30:48 Adam She's defending it. But she definitely has those traits. She's washing her hands all the time. She's scared about people touching. She's just getting that germ thing going on. She's got those traits. So she seems like a decent candidate for this.

31:00 Dedee Pfeiffer See, I have two friends. One is the same with a boundary. When you go to hug her, I'm very like, hey, she gets very rigid and you can tell she's uncomfortable with it. And that's a characteristic where you kind of go, OK, she's not a huggy feely kind of person. And I have another girlfriend who won't leave the house until she's cleaned everything. But it doesn't disrupt her. It just really bothers her if she doesn't get it cleaned. She'll whine about it all day. And I always thought she was a little compulsive. But I don't think to a point, like you said, where she can't function or interfere just bothers her.

31:27 Drew Right. She has those traits.

31:28 Dedee Pfeiffer So.

31:29 Drew As does Trish.

31:30 Adam Yeah. But Trish has given us the watered down version of her life and her rituals.

31:36 Drew Maybe.

31:36 Adam And she's washing her hands constantly. She's obsessed about this stuff. What's wrong with getting it checked out?

31:44 Drew That's fine.

31:45 Adam Well, why don't you give her some guidance here, Drew?

31:47 Drew Because I don't think she needs it. I really don't think it's not disturbing her, helping her disrupting her function.

31:52 Adam All right. Well, Trish, Drew says you're fine. Okay. So don't do anything.

31:57 Drew Let me go down the path I was going to go down though.

31:59 Adam All right. Hurry.

31:59 Drew Which is that, Trish, the thing you said though that triggered some concern I have though with these boundary issues, did anybody ever when you're growing up or anything sort of violate your personal space, your physical space, hit you, anything like that?

32:15 Caller Yeah.

32:15 Drew Okay. This is more of that, which is where I was going with this.

32:19 Adam You're just saying that because she's black and all black people get beaten by their parents, Drew.

32:22 Caller I'm not completely black, actually.

32:24 Adam Well, the black side of your family whipped you up growing up.

32:28 Drew That creates an issue with boundaries. What more powerful way to tell someone they're not worthwhile than to violate their boundaries. Now, whenever anyone comes near violating boundaries, it puts you in touch with that shame and the feelings of worthlessness and you push that away. And that's a more serious issue than these sort of obsessive-compulsive traits, okay?

32:50 Adam So what should you do?

32:51 Drew If you want to look into that, that's worthy of seeking help for them. Because these things may become more bothersome if you get a mood disorder or something. These obsessive-compulsive problems may become very prominent.

33:01 Adam Drew, you just decided no black person could be obsessive-compulsive, didn't you?

33:04 Drew No.

33:05 Adam Yeah, I know Drew's mindset.

33:06 Drew Trisha, she doesn't have intrusive thoughts.

33:08 Adam I know her mind.

33:09 Drew I know your mind. And she doesn't have the sense of something bad happening to her if she doesn't do the ritual.

33:12 Adam Very racist, Drew. You should really think long and hard about that. Adam? Yeah. You're 19?

33:20 Caller Oh, hi.

33:21 Adam Hi.

33:23 Caller First, I want to say, you know, you guys are great. Adam and Dr. Drew, all this new time.

33:29 Adam Drew gave you the thumbs down. Sorry, Adam. He doesn't believe your question already. But go ahead anyway.

33:37 Caller And the girl, I got your edition of February and I got to say, it's already like stuck together. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:46 Adam Did you beat off to that? Beat off to that Jeremy McGrath?

33:49 Drew Aren't you proud of?

33:50 Caller I'm trying to throw a joke in there. Sorry.

33:52 Adam Oh, that's all right. So what happened, buddy?

33:55 Caller Well, it's kind of weird because like I have a half sister. She lives with my mom. I live with my dad and we like, well, I don't know. We've always been like really kind of flirty and you know, she's cool and like one night we got, you know, kind of messed up or whatever and like we rutted.

34:14 Drew You rutted?

34:16 Caller Well, you know, I mean.

34:17 Drew That's what elk do.

34:19 Adam Elk rut?

34:20 Drew You rutted?

34:21 Adam Is that rutting?

34:22 Caller That's what we use down here, you know.

34:26 Drew Elks go into rut, estrus.

34:28 Caller We had intercores.

34:29 Adam Oh, really?

34:30 Caller Yeah, whatever.

34:31 Adam You call that rutting, huh?

34:33 Caller Anyway, I don't like elk and bears right now.

34:36 Adam Oh, what is there to be ashamed of?

34:39 Caller Anyway, so like she told me this morning that she's pregnant. Like she took two tests so she knows that she's pregnant.

34:49 Adam You guys are going to have a little rut rant.

34:52 Caller I don't know. I'm worried because I keep telling my buddies and they keep making fun of me saying that it's going to be like a flipper baby or whatever.

34:59 Adam No, no, no.

34:59 Drew That's not the issue. The bigger issue here is this child is going to have parents or siblings.

35:04 Adam Yeah, he's going to give birth to his nephew.

35:06 Drew And this family is going to be a mess and this child is going to come into a world where things are very confusing to it. Is she going to see this pregnancy through?

35:14 Caller I don't think so. And that's the second part to my question.

35:17 Adam Well, wait a minute. Whose daughter is she that you guys...

35:22 Drew Who's the half? Yeah.

35:24 Caller It's my mom's daughter.

35:26 Drew So you both have the same mom.

35:27 Caller We both have the same mother.

35:29 Adam Makes it mildly worse. I don't know why. That makes it like 65% yours.

35:33 Caller Yeah. It's hella gross. Cause I mean I woke up...

35:36 Drew Hella gross.

35:37 Caller I heard you guys talking earlier about like, you know, feeling weird when you call an ex-boyfriend. We'll think about if it was your sister and you were like drunk, you know?

35:46 Adam Yeah.

35:46 Drew Yeah. Not a great idea.

35:47 Adam Well, according to Drew's statistics, I'm only going to receive from my sister now. No more of that anal.

35:54 Caller You sickin me. I'll take her.

35:56 Adam All right. Listen. Hey, Adam?

35:59 Caller Yeah?

35:59 Adam She's got to get herself an abortion.

36:02 Caller Yeah.

36:02 Adam I would say it would be a good plan in this case. It would be good for you to learn from this experience and watch yourself when you're drinking because it seems like hell, if you can bang your half-sister drunk, you could take a shot at the president. Do you know what I'm saying? What I'm saying is you can bang a family member because you're drunk, that means you've got a wide range of things you can do.

36:26 Dedee Pfeiffer You don't have a lot of boundaries when you're intoxicated, so it's best to really watch that. Also too, that's a really good advice because you bring a child into that kind of environment. It's just really unfair to the child who has no choice.

36:39 Adam Plus you're being raised by the two people, thought it would be a good idea to get together.

36:42 Dedee Pfeiffer That would just mess up a kid quicker than anything and this world's already a really scary place so it's safe.

36:46 Drew Adoption would be okay.

36:47 Dedee Pfeiffer Adoption. And eventually they want to find out who their parents are.

36:54 Drew Maybe he'll call this show and we'll continue to scourge people from figuring who their parents are. Any of you thinking about finding your birth parents, listen to this call.

37:00 Adam Right. Drew, you were brought up by your parents. You don't want to know who they are, right? And what about it medically, Drew? It's not as big a deal as people think. Is that true?

37:11 Dedee Pfeiffer I heard the inbreeding thing creates like mental retardation, tiredness.

37:14 Drew Well, but here's the thing. Here's the inconsistency in that reason. Yes, there is, it's not good for a population to have a lot of inbreeding over multiple generations. It's not good. On the other hand, what is good is as much genetic diversity as possible. Therefore, racial intermixing should be something we should equally as powerfully support as we discourage family intermixing. You see what I mean?

37:33 Adam Yes.

37:34 Drew And yet we don't do that.

37:35 Adam Well, that's true.

37:36 Drew We don't really say, hey, the greatest thing is mix it up.

37:40 Adam Hey, you, Albino, get with Blackie. Is that what you mean?

37:44 Drew That's how the ads will go, yes.

37:45 Dedee Pfeiffer So I'm German, my husband's Peruvian, so that's a good mix. That's a great mix.

37:48 Adam You're doing. You're going to have yourself one of them scrappy mutts.

37:51 Drew That's right.

37:52 Dedee Pfeiffer We're going to love it one day.

37:54 Adam One of them poodles whose hip goes out.

37:56 Dedee Pfeiffer No, we don't want a full bread. We want it mixed. Yeah, absolutely.

37:58 Adam Smart. Very smart. Okay. So, but anyway, you're saying, could I get my biological sister pregnant? Yes. No, I know that. So I pull out. But what would the kid be?

38:11 Drew You're doing the anal. Those are your way to put it.

38:12 Adam Well, now, not after seeing this.

38:14 Drew That's the point.

38:15 Adam But here's what I'm saying. The kid would probably be okay.

38:19 Drew Probably. Except for he'd be a Corolla throwing through. A lot of people probably don't need to hear that.

38:23 Dedee Pfeiffer A lot of people are drunk right now looking over at their sister going, hey, we can get it done.

38:26 Drew But there's a barrier here, and that's the fact that it would be a Corolla squared. That'd be bad.

38:32 Adam Right. The Corollas need to be watered down. We don't need to be concentrated.

38:38 Drew That's right.

38:39 Adam We got enough. All right. Dedee Pfeiffer here tonight on the cover of Playboy as We Speak and For Your Love, WB Sunday night, 930. We'll take a little break. We'll be right back. Hey, what's up?

39:24 This is Marcos. This is Sonny. Love.

39:26 Adam This is Trey.

39:26 And we're POD and you're listening to Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla on Loveline.

39:32 Yes, you are.

39:33 Adam Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. Dedee is currently on the cover and in the pages of the February issue of Playboy, which is out on newsstands as we speak. Also in the fourth season of For Your Love, which is on the WB Sunday Nights at 9.30. Alright, ready to get back to the phones? Let's do it. Speak to Derek, who's 20. Derek?

40:00 Caller Hi, how's it going? Good. I've been going out with my girlfriend for about 5 months and within 3 months it was going pretty good until the subject about sex came up and she wanted to have sex. And then I told her that I wanted to wait till I get married. And then- You pansy! Yeah, sorry. So I told her I wanted to wait till I get married. I always felt that way. And it seemed like no big deal then. Then it got about 2 months later, which is what we come to now, where she is telling me that she wanted to know if it was okay, if she goes to one of her really good friends, a woman, which I've actually known so that they could, so she can get some of her quote-quote sexual frustration out of the way. And she wanted to know what I felt. And I kind of like, well she was telling me, do you think it's cheating? And I said, yeah. And then she got really mad. And now she's like, we're really reluctant to talk to each other now.

41:00 Drew And what if she had said she was going to meet with one of her guy friends?

41:04 Adam I mean, she would have said the same thing.

41:06 Drew But I mean, just how would that have felt differently to you?

41:09 Caller It would have, you know, even though as bad as it sounds, it would have, I would think, it would have been worse.

41:13 Drew It would have been worse if it were a guy. Yeah, right.

41:16 Adam Lesser of two evils.

41:18 Drew All right, well.

41:19 Adam And are you religious, Derrick?

41:22 Caller I hate to use that word because...

41:24 Dedee Pfeiffer Spiritual?

41:25 Adam Retardedly spiritual?

41:27 Caller Yeah. Non-atheist? Well, no, I just, I'm not atheist, exactly.

41:31 Adam And, by the way, I mean, you're Catholic or Christian?

41:34 Caller I'm Catholic.

41:35 Adam And anyone is waiting till you get married?

41:37 Drew Yeah. You're gay.

41:39 Adam True, please. I respect that. That's fine. I don't know if this may be the right one for you, though, if that's part of your plan.

41:46 Dedee Pfeiffer Sounds like they're on two different levels, actually.

41:48 Drew Just in many ways, this is not working. What you want for the relationship is not what she wants.

41:54 Caller Exactly.

41:55 Adam And here's the deal, too. Everybody who's got a mission plan for themselves, sexually or otherwise, keep in mind you may run into somebody who doesn't have that mission, and that's one of the pitfalls of having the mission.

42:10 Drew Right.

42:10 Adam I mean, what you're doing, you are in the minority with this, and that's fine. I mean, I respect it, but you're going to have to find someone else who does, and this one may not be that one.

42:21 Drew And she's suggesting these various sort of outlandish, chaotic solutions for the problem, and then becomes enraged when he won't go along with it. A lot of drama.

42:30 Adam I think she was trying to kickstart him a little. She's trying to get him going a little bit there.

42:34 Drew Yeah.

42:35 Adam I would suspect.

42:36 Drew Still though, very definite need and drive towards drama.

42:39 Dedee Pfeiffer That's actually something that we don't think about when we start to date somebody is, how sexually compatible are you with that person? It's hard to find until the relationship is kind of going, and then all of a sudden one becomes either less sexual or more sexual. But he seems pretty clear upfront that he was waiting, and she was cool with that in the beginning, but now she's kind of changing.

42:56 Adam Yeah, and we...

42:57 Caller I think he thought I wasn't serious or something.

42:59 Dedee Pfeiffer He thought you weren't serious?

43:00 Caller Yeah, and then I thought, that's why after two months later, she finally realized I wouldn't budge.

43:06 Adam What do you... Good man.

43:09 Dedee Pfeiffer Well, he'd admire him for his strength and his conviction in what he believes in.

43:12 Adam You better hope there's a heaven, buddy, or you're going to be one pissed corpse.

43:16 Caller I mean, there's also a problem that this girl, we recently went out, like I said, five months ago, but I've known her for a little bit of a while. About two years, and then she's been in really bad relationships.

43:26 Adam Yeah. Well, she's chaotic.

43:27 Drew She's chaotic. I tell you, she's my son, though.

43:29 Adam Yeah. Drew's right. She's chaotic.

43:31 Caller It sucks because the time that we have when we're not dealing with this problem, we're actually, we're really fine.

43:36 Drew If it weren't this problem, it'd be some other problem.

43:38 Adam I promise. She's chaotic. Speaking of sucking, how much do you do sexually with her?

43:45 Caller I remember at one point, I just knew she, she just couldn't handle it because all her past relationships were just sex, sex, sex, and finally when we were on my bed or something, I finally just gave her the finger and gave her the orgasm because that's all I know she wanted.

44:00 Adam Yeah. All right, Jack.

44:01 Caller I just wanted it as long as she was, but I know that's not going to cover the problem.

44:05 Drew Wow. Is that a strange way to describe that?

44:07 Adam He gave her the finger.

44:08 Dedee Pfeiffer I never heard that before.

44:10 Adam He's a religious man. The bitch had been asked for the finger all night long and he finally stuffed it to her. Good times. I think Jesus would have done the same thing, one of his disciples.

44:20 Dedee Pfeiffer That was nice of him to at least try to help her out there and become a need.

44:23 Adam Yeah, he gave her the finger. All right. So, Derek, it seems like, yes, you don't know it, but she's very chaotic and it's time to find someone who lives in the slow light with you.

44:35 Drew Yeah, move on.

44:36 Adam Mark?

44:36 Caller Yes.

44:37 Adam You're 25?

44:38 Caller Yes.

44:39 Adam What's up? Oh, yeah.

44:40 Caller How are you doing?

44:41 Adam Good.

44:42 Caller Because I have a Dedee question.

44:43 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, okay.

44:44 Caller Yeah, it's concerning that tattoo. On the cover-

44:48 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm sorry, which one? Which tattoo?

44:50 Caller Well, you have one on the cover where it's like a belt thing. It's going around your waist. Then inside the layout there, you got another one on your butt.

45:00 Dedee Pfeiffer Right.

45:01 Caller So, which one? You don't see the one around your waist.

45:05 Adam That looks like a henna job.

45:07 Dedee Pfeiffer It's funny. Thank you. Thank you for saying that and actually, thank you for bringing up the question, Marcus. It's actually a little bit of a sore spot with me. These are real tattoos. I'm a little old to be having henna tattoos. The one on my stomach and the one on my ass are both real and mean a lot to me and they're not just something stuck in my body because I gave them great thought and it's from a wonderful tattoo artist named Kirk Alley in the Valley who takes his work very personal. Each one means something to me personally. Right.

45:33 Adam I used to go to a guy named Bob Fountain on the mountain.

45:36 Dedee Pfeiffer Bob on the mountain.

45:37 Adam To get my tattoos. But you're going to Kirk.

45:39 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm going to Kirk Alley in the Valley.

45:40 Adam In the Valley.

45:41 Dedee Pfeiffer Okay. He knew that these were spiritual for me and the ones on my stomach are a picture of two doves. One is in memory of my father whom I lost and the other one is in memory of my best friend who I lost, one of cancer and one of AIDS. The angels on my butt represent the innocence of love, something I will always believe in.

45:55 Adam How about just putting a picture of them on there? I mean, it's a cut out the middle man.

45:59 Dedee Pfeiffer I love Kenny and my father.

46:01 I just thought maybe it would be a little funky.

46:02 Adam Put a picture of Kenny on there.

46:03 Dedee Pfeiffer I'll tell you what happened. I'll tell you what happened to Kenny and my dad.

46:06 Adam Listen, Tyson has Arthur Ashe on his arm.

46:08 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm telling you, my first experience with the angels on my ass, as I got older, when I was younger, they were chubby and fat. Now that I'm older, they're kind of long and lean, they're turning into teenagers. So I thought I'd stop putting people's faces and stuff on my body and do doves so if they get transformed, when my body transforms. What happened was, I don't know if it was an accident, but they airbrushed my tattoos off my stomach on the inside. That's what happened there, Mark. That was not, and actually it was already in print when I saw that because I would have stopped the presses and say that's like airbrushing my nose. Well, this is a part of my body for the rest of my life.

46:39 Adam Obviously, it's not an accident. I mean, they did it.

46:41 Dedee Pfeiffer I have a feeling someone looked at it and said, I think it's a prettier picture without the one on her stomach. Personally, that I was very hurt because I took it personal because my tattoos, and in the article inside, it mentions my tattoos and what they mean to me, and yet they airbrushed them off my body.

46:56 Adam We got to take a break, but I smell a lawsuit here. I mean it. You could probably sue them for altering you.

47:04 Dedee Pfeiffer I thought this gives me something to talk about, because I thought someone will say, wait a minute, what happened to the tattoo on her stomach on the inside? It disappeared. But yeah, they actually mean a lot to me, those tattoos.

47:13 Adam All right. We will take a break. DD5er's our guest tonight, talking about the cover of Playboy, February. And we'll be right back.

47:22 Caller All right, guys, here's the deal.

47:24 Caller You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

47:27 Caller One call's all you need to make.

47:28 Caller Call the Dateline.

47:29 Caller 877-889-DATE.

47:32 Caller Call the Dateline.

48:14 Adam Hey, yo, Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Drew. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. She's in For Your Love, which is on the wwwwb930 Sunday nights. The premiere is coming up this Sunday. She's also in the new issue of Playboy, February, on the cover and in the pages. And Drew just pointed out that I'm in it, too.

48:37 Dedee Pfeiffer See, lucky I'm here. Look, you have this issue. Now you know.

48:40 Adam Yeah. And you know, let me, we were just having a conversation about- Are you in it naked, too? Well, I'm just looking at the front page. So let me turn the page and see. No, my ass is not on the back part of the page. They, I'm up there with the Hefner roast that we did in- Didn't, sorry, did in New York a couple months back. Well, we roasted Hefner and there's a whole montage of pictures of that night. There's a picture of me standing next to Brett Butler, smiling at the podium and I have zero recollection of standing next to Brett Butler. If you'd asked me if she was there, I probably would have said no.

49:19 Dedee Pfeiffer That's scary.

49:20 Adam There we are standing shoulder to shoulder.

49:22 Dedee Pfeiffer Like buddies.

49:23 Adam Posing for pictures. I had no idea I was standing.

49:27 Dedee Pfeiffer Do you remember being there at all?

49:29 Adam I do remember doing the gig. Yes, vaguely. Yes, Drew, that's Brett Butler. Who else would that be? Isn't that her?

49:37 I don't think so.

49:37 Adam It's not Gilbert Godfrey. Well, there's got to be a little caption or something in there. It probably says it.

49:45 It does look like her.

49:47 Adam Well, there's got to be a caption in there that says something.

49:53 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, former bunny, Debra Harry.

49:56 Adam Oh, that's Debra Harry? No wonder I don't remember Brett Butler.

50:00 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, that's Debra Harry.

50:01 Adam My God, does it look like Brett Butler?

50:03 Drew It looks like Debra Harry.

50:05 Adam No, it looks like Debra Harry?

50:06 Dedee Pfeiffer Now you can see Debra in there.

50:07 Adam All right, I'm sorry. Well, you got to admit, it looks something like Brett Butler too.

50:11 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, it kind of looked like...

50:13 Adam All right, well, better yet, me and Debra Harry.

50:15 Dedee Pfeiffer Do you remember standing for Debra?

50:17 Adam No, but I remember she was there. Scott? Yeah. You're 35?

50:22 Caller Yes, I am.

50:24 Adam I'd just been waiting to drink that whole night. There was like a whole night where you should have been drinking but you couldn't get drunk until the very end. So I was probably loaded by them because I just polished off like a bottle of wine as soon as that goddamn thing ended. Go ahead, Scott.

50:38 First of all, I'd like to say to Dee Dee, absolutely beautiful. I love your Playboy spread that I just described and you're my first issue.

50:46 Adam Oh, thank you. What about the picture of me standing next to Debra Butler?

50:50 Very impressive.

50:52 Caller All right.

50:53 Adam and Drew, I'd like to apologize because I lied last week to get your cranberry sauce recipe.

51:00 Adam Did I give that last week?

51:02 Well, two weeks ago.

51:03 Adam Oh, okay. All right. Well, you got it.

51:06 I'm sorry.

51:07 Caller I didn't want to do it, but-

51:09 Drew All right. Get on with it, Scott. This we do care about.

51:12 Oh, man. Anderson, I think it's really cool you-

51:15 Adam Oh, my God. I really hope he didn't have a question.

51:18 Whatever.

51:19 Adam It's on hold for 41 goddamn minutes. Let's talk to- and not that Anderson doesn't deserve craze. It's just we don't want to hear that. That's right. Jason?

51:30 Yes.

51:31 Adam You're 24?

51:32 Caller Yes, I am.

51:32 Adam What's up?

51:33 Caller Hey. I was just curious. After I go ahead and do my thing by myself, jerk off and everything, I was curious what the lifespan of sperm was after it was in the air.

51:47 Drew Why? Just out of my own curiosity, why are you interested in that?

51:50 Caller Just because I was curious because I didn't want to get my girlfriend pregnant if there were some still dried on the tip of my penis. And I didn't know if that, you know, if any more exposure to moisture would reduce...

52:01 Drew So your question is if you were to have intercourse within some period of time after ejaculating, would there be enough around there to get her pregnant?

52:10 Caller Exactly.

52:11 Adam Well, he also had a theory about being remoistened and brought back to life like sea monkeys.

52:16 Drew Yeah, yeah. It's pretty much...

52:18 Adam Hmm, wait a minute. I got a plan here, Drew.

52:21 Drew I hear that.

52:22 Adam Sperm monkeys.

52:23 Drew Sperm lasts 72 hours in fallopian tubes. So if it is in ovulation anywhere within that 72 hours that it's sitting up there, you can get someone pregnant.

52:31 Adam But what if it's dry? It cannot be reactivated.

52:33 Drew Really, it's pretty much dry. It's done.

52:35 Caller And when it's dry...

52:37 Drew But it can live in the urethra for a little while. So you got to, if you haven't urinated or something after, if you haven't done something to flush out that urethral tract, you can get her pregnant just with what's hanging around the urethra.

52:48 Caller Oh, okay.

52:49 Dedee Pfeiffer What about when sperm hits the air? Is there anything in that?

52:51 Drew It's pretty much dry out.

52:53 Dedee Pfeiffer Not an old thing I heard one time about?

52:54 Drew No.

52:55 Adam No, but when it hits the fan, I mean, that's trouble. That's a very messy one. That is serious, serious trouble when the sperm hits the fan. My mommy said when your dad gets home, and sees his report card, the sperm is really going to hit the fan. Kathy?

53:09 Yeah?

53:09 Adam You're 17?

53:10 Caller Uh-huh.

53:11 Adam What's up?

53:12 Caller I was wondering, okay, I was molested, and I was wondering why I go towards men instead of the girls that are really rigid from men.

53:22 Drew Why what?

53:24 Adam Really what?

53:26 Caller Why I totally go all out and go for men when a lot of girls that have been molested, they get all rigid and they don't want to be around men.

53:35 Adam They recoil.

53:35 Drew Yeah, there's sort of two ways you can get to.

53:37 Adam Yeah, don't worry, you'll get there too.

53:39 Drew You can either go back and forth, which some women do, between being very rigid and the sort of avoidant of sex or being highly compulsive towards sex. And it seems that having been sexual abuse sets people on one trajectory, sort of one track or another. And if you're going down the one that's highly sexualized, that's you. Being sexually abused does definitely predispose to sexual addiction, sexual compulsion. And some women are completely, like, feel nothing, they feel non-sexual, they completely shut off to all that.

54:09 Caller Is there, like, a difference in the way they were molested, like the age of the guy?

54:12 Drew Not that I'm aware of.

54:13 Adam No, but it would be this way, this is the way with a lot of things, like, let's say a certain nationality kicked your ass when you were ten years old. Some guys would seek out that nationality and try to kick everyone's ass, and other people would run when they saw someone of that nationality. Do you know what I'm saying? So this is kind of the same thing. You were traumatized by a group or by a person, and now you either run from it or you sort of try to conquer it.

54:47 Drew What freaks a lot of people out is that if they were sort of physically handled aggressively in some of these sexual encounters, that becomes the only way you can orgasm. It's as though that are so highly arousing an experience prior to your brain being mature, where it sort of lays down the track work that causes you to need that in your sexual encounters. Wow. Yeah.

55:10 Dedee Pfeiffer Is that something to be concerned about if you find yourself in that way where only that?

55:14 Drew Yeah, it's not good. It tends to keep you away from intimacy.

55:17 Adam Well so...

55:17 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, that's not intimacy.

55:19 Drew That's just acting out.

55:20 Adam Kathy, you're going to have to get yourself some help any way you slice it, right? Who molested you?

55:26 Caller Um, you know those home daycares? You know where like the regular people run it? The husband of the wife.

55:34 Adam Wow. See, it's a catch-22 with those folks who want to open their home to daycare because they cannot be trusted by virtue of the fact they want to open their home to daycare. That's the way I look at it. It's just like guys who want, you know, these single guys who want to be scout leaders. It's like, no, sorry, we can't take you. We got to take the guy who doesn't want to do it. Take me. I'll be pissed. I'll drag my ass out to the woods once a week and I'll be pissed as hell, but I will not molest because I don't want to do it. You got to watch out for the guys who are signing up. All right, Kathy, well, did they get to the bottom of this?

56:07 Caller I think, yeah, when I was seven.

56:09 Drew They got the guy?

56:11 Adam Yeah.

56:11 Drew Good.

56:12 Adam Good. Yeah. You figure, I mean, it's just like how... I know these molesters work on sort of impulse, but what is the plan? You know, I mean, like, if you say... I can remember as a kid saying to, like, a younger kid, don't tell your mommy that I took your or whacked you across the head or did this. And then they go, if you tell them, we will get into trouble, your mommy will get mad. Okay, all right. Then run right up to them and start screaming about it. How are you going to molest that, you know, 15, 6 or 7-year-olds and not expect every one of them to go home and start yapping about something?

56:50 Dedee Pfeiffer I think what happens, and I might be wrong, but I think that they're so traumatized by the event and they somehow hold themselves responsible that that somehow keeps their silence and they feel like they're being punished, ashamed, and that, you know.

57:02 Adam You know, a certain percentage of them will, but that's still, that ain't all of them.

57:08 Drew The perpetrators somehow know how to pick the right ones.

57:11 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, they kind of like sense them or something, they know which ones will squawk and which ones will actually withdraw.

57:16 Adam It just seems like with those kids heading home and living with their folks every day over a course of months or years, you just figure something's got to give.

57:26 Dedee Pfeiffer It's actually scary because usually when they find out the child's been molested years later, they look back and they actually can pinpoint when the child started to change behavior, but they never really noticed it enough to say, hey, wait a minute, Johnny or Susie's acting a little strange. Years later go by and...

57:41 Adam My aunt's eighth birthday started carrying a flask. And that should have...

57:45 Dedee Pfeiffer Horses are beating up the dog or something, you know.

57:47 Adam Should have been an indicator. Had we known then what we know now. Anna? You're 19? I'd like to see the flask make a comeback. That was a very... Yeah, it was the way a gentleman would drink.

58:06 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm fine with that.

58:08 Adam Yeah, Anna could save you from a bullet every once in a while.

58:11 Dedee Pfeiffer Right, position in the right place in the pocket.

58:13 Adam Absolutely. Anna?

58:15 Yes.

58:16 Adam So, what's up?

58:17 Okay, there was this guy. I started going to school with him. I went to school down south for... Let's see, it was 2000, in August of 2000. And I really, really liked him, and we were friends at first. And then things sort of escalated to a physical level. But I knew that he didn't like me, you know, as anything more than just a friend, but I kind of let my feelings sort of take over anyway. And I started... you know, we started getting physical and stuff like that. And so anyway, the school year is over in May of last year, 2001. And now I like totally can't stop thinking about him. And like he has another girlfriend and everything, but I can't stop thinking about him for anything.

59:03 Adam Well do you see him at school?

59:06 No, I don't go to the same school as him.

59:07 Drew It's just a pure fantasy.

59:09 But he lives like ten minutes away from me. And he came back from school too. And he's at home now too.

59:17 Drew But you know there's no possibility of a relationship. You know that.

59:21 Yeah, I know that, but it's like I keep hanging on to like the little memories and stuff.

59:25 Adam Yeah, it's natural.

59:28 Drew Yeah, but 19.

59:29 Adam Oh, 19, come on.

59:30 Drew You're right.

59:31 Adam Drew's not making noise over there.

59:32 Drew What's going on in your life that there's nothing else to keep you busy?

59:37 Adam I don't know.

59:39 I don't know. It's like I'm going to school now and everything and trying to get a part-time job and everything like that. But he's like literally on my mind all the time. And I don't know what to do about it.

59:52 Drew Stop saying that. We get that. We understand that.

59:55 Adam Oh, Drew, this girl is heartbroken.

59:57 Drew What is it? No, she's not because the relationship ended without any... This has come back around now as an obsession when her life is not going so well. Are you depressed?

1:00:10 I went to therapy when I was younger and they said I was depressed. And they said that I should take some drugs or something. But my mom didn't think it was a good idea for me to get on.

1:00:19 Drew I'm highly suspicious that the depression is resurfacing because this obsession is just your brain trying to manage something. There's no connection to reality. There's obviously no possibility of a relationship. The relationship even ended without it being terribly traumatic to you. But now all of a sudden there's an obsession there. And it's an obsession that's trying to distract you from something more unpleasant, some other feelings that you really don't like having. And it's time to look into that.

1:00:43 Adam All right. Well, back to the shrink and you're not a minor anymore. Screw your mom. And if they want to give you some drugs, you go ahead and take them.

1:00:50 Dedee Pfeiffer There's nothing wrong with trying to take care of yourself. I mean, it's actually being really responsible and smart.

1:00:55 Adam Yeah. And look at it as a little bad tasting candy, you know? Not drugs, not drugs. Such a negative connotation there. There's a little oddly. Drew, how many times are you going to suck that mic in the course of this break? At least one. Well, you know, it's interesting. You're honing. You worked a couple of techniques because you did the drag a little bit earlier in this. You did the drag, the scrape. Yeah, you did the swipe. And then this was the punch. And what are you going to do? Will you submerge it in water at a certain point? Like, what is your, what's the coup de grace for you?

1:01:30 Drew Great idea.

1:01:31 Adam How do you top yourself every night? Let's talk. You know, let's get rid of Damon over here because he's been on hold for 55 minutes. And I'd just like to get him out of our hair. Pardon the pun because he's got a hair related question. Damon?

1:01:46 Caller I'm so sorry about my burden to you guys.

1:01:48 Adam That's all right. Go ahead.

1:01:49 Caller I just had a question. Actually, I've been always curious about this. I can grow full facial hair, but yet on my body, I have very few pubic, it's almost strands and I have no hair on my legs or arms at all. And I was just wondering, I mean, is this a medical deal?

1:02:06 Adam Do you grow, I mean, can you grow a full beard?

1:02:09 Caller I have to shave constantly every day.

1:02:11 Drew You're otherwise healthy?

1:02:12 Caller Yeah. But my whole life, always people like when you would take off, you're sure you have no armpit hair. And at some point in my life, I thought I might grow some, but now I'm 23 and I still have no body.

1:02:27 Adam But the good news is you got all these fags shaving themselves down. That's another thing.

1:02:31 Caller I mean, when the women, she says, what would you do, shave down? I'm like, no.

1:02:36 Adam Well, that's cool because you get the look without dealing with the psychology.

1:02:43 Caller But the look, I mean, every man wants some hair on the body.

1:02:47 Adam Well, Drew doesn't have any.

1:02:49 Dedee Pfeiffer Except for the ones that are shaving it off.

1:02:50 Adam Right.

1:02:50 Caller I should think you're fortunate. Well, those are mostly porn stars.

1:02:53 Adam I'm telling you, there's a lot of guys shaving themselves down. But be that as it may, Drew, what should he do?

1:02:59 Drew Nothing.

1:03:00 Adam He doesn't want to get a checkup?

1:03:01 Drew No.

1:03:01 Adam It couldn't be some kind of thyroid problem?

1:03:04 Drew No.

1:03:05 Dedee Pfeiffer Some guys are like extremely hairy all over, some are kind of just facial.

1:03:07 Drew This is why I didn't go right to this call.

1:03:09 Adam Oh, shut up. Let me tell you, Drew punches a mic a couple of times and rattles the can around, so I get on him and then we go to a call and now he's going to pay me back by having Damon dive a hyperactive thyroid.

1:03:24 Drew No.

1:03:24 Adam Well, you've made your point, Drew.

1:03:25 Drew No, there's no answer. The answer is, that's you.

1:03:27 Adam Bull, because we've gotten this call many times and you've asked if they've had a work up.

1:03:33 Drew Not with facial hair that's normal.

1:03:36 Adam He says he has no pubic hair.

1:03:40 Drew He has normal facial hair, which means he has normal androgens.

1:03:43 Adam You would tell, if I didn't force you to take that call, you'd tell him to just get a check up, get a work up.

1:03:48 Drew He said he's never had any medical problems.

1:03:51 Caller Later in my life, would I be more for losing hair on my head or something?

1:03:57 Drew No, it doesn't mean anything, it really has no meaning.

1:04:00 Adam Probably lose less hair on your head, because the guys who lose the hair on their head seem to be hairier guys, because they produce that testosterone that gets them to lose it.

1:04:13 Dedee Pfeiffer Does that have anything to do with their fathers too? Is that true, that your father's bald and you're going to bald? Is there any truth in that?

1:04:18 Drew Yeah, and they've also said mom's dad is a contributor to that, but not a direct relationship.

1:04:24 Adam Alright, so this guy should see nobody. What could he do if he wanted to do something?

1:04:29 Drew Nothing.

1:04:30 Adam Couldn't get, there's no supplement or something?

1:04:32 Drew No, absolutely not.

1:04:34 Dedee Pfeiffer He could stand and be proud and say, I'm hairless.

1:04:35 Adam I don't mean a hair growing pill, but what I mean is some sort of replacement supplement. Maybe he should have his testosterone check.

1:04:43 Dedee Pfeiffer Hey, do you believe in those herbs, biosil and pantol, that supposed to promote hair growth, make that, you know, all that stuff, do you think that works?

1:04:49 Adam Drew doesn't like herbs.

1:04:50 Dedee Pfeiffer They're homeopathic.

1:04:51 Drew Never heard of those. But I can't think of anything that would be associated with them.

1:04:56 Adam All right. He says the attorney will be calling next week.

1:05:01 Drew The hair and the legs and the pubic area, particularly in women, can be associated with adrenal function, but he wouldn't have signs of normal testosterone elsewhere.

1:05:11 Adam Go ahead there, Dan.

1:05:12 Hello?

1:05:13 Adam You're 35. Drew's angry now because we took calls.

1:05:17 Caller Pardon me?

1:05:17 Drew What's up, Dan?

1:05:19 Caller Am I on?

1:05:19 Drew You're on. Time to start listening, goddammit.

1:05:21 Caller Hey, hey, hey, hey. I have a quick question, Dr. Drew.

1:05:25 Yeah?

1:05:26 Caller About ecstasy, what's the difference between MDMA and MDA?

1:05:31 Drew They are different compounds. MDA is a little more strongly hallucinogenic and a little more damaging to your brain.

1:05:37 Adam Gotta get that one.

1:05:38 Drew And probably has a little less stimulant effect.

1:05:42 Caller Okay.

1:05:43 Adam They're more hallucinating, less deep.

1:05:45 Drew Less speedy, right. Less speedy, more hallucination.

1:05:47 Dedee Pfeiffer Isn't it like Mad Dog's Asses or something like that?

1:05:49 Drew They're related to MDMA. They're designers' hallucinogens.

1:05:53 Caller Okay. Have you ever heard of anyone of a drug dealer being convicted for man fodder for someone who overdosed on MDA? Yeah.

1:06:02 Drew I'm sure it's happened, yeah.

1:06:03 Adam Well, not necessarily. Just any drug. Any drug.

1:06:07 Caller Yeah.

1:06:07 Adam They do that. I mean, that's what, hell, I mean, Carol O'Connor, Archie Bunker was bringing that drug, his son's drug dealer.

1:06:15 Dedee Pfeiffer His son died from it. He went after the drug dealer, didn't he?

1:06:17 Adam Well, his son committed suicide. It was even one more step removed. Right, right.

1:06:23 Dedee Pfeiffer And he was, yeah.

1:06:25 Adam So, I mean, he didn't even die of an OD. He just killed himself.

1:06:29 Dedee Pfeiffer And he felt that drug dealers had given him drugs to contribute to his depression, which then led to his suicide. Right, right.

1:06:33 Adam Yeah.

1:06:34 Drew So that happens.

1:06:35 Adam Yeah. In a way, like on one hand, I'm like, oh, I think it's a bold statement. On the other hand, it's like, ooh, you're doing a little transference there, aren't you, Archie? I mean, you got a drug addict son. I know you can go after, you'll be mad at the drug addict, but you've got to take a look at what's going on around the house, too, don't you?

1:06:55 Caller Exactly. Look, this is a case that's going on in Portland, and a girl died, and the drug dealers, they're trying to convict a manslaughter, but I mean, she willingly took these pills.

1:07:05 Adam Yeah, but she took an illegal substance that he supplied her, and they're not going for murder one, they're going for manslaughter, which means there's some copability there. If you're driving, Jesus, I should be an attorney.

1:07:16 Drew If you're driving down the street, and you accidentally hit someone, you can be tried for manslaughter. I mean, you were involved in the chain of events that led to this person dying.

1:07:25 Adam Right, you didn't intentionally try to run them over, but yet, because you were talking on your cell phone, you killed, you took a life, you were involved, you were responsible for it.

1:07:35 Dedee Pfeiffer They're really cracking down on all those kinds, especially the drug dealers and all that. They're just trying to hold more people more responsible for this overall epidemic that we're going through, with kids, younger kids, you know, Odeen.

1:07:44 Adam Yeah, well, let's talk about the law for a minute, because I got a couple thoughts about that. I was watching another one of these high-speed pursuits on the TV today. And it's, you know, there's this new, here's really the problem, is cops are scared to do anything now for fear there's going to be, another thing we're going to thank the attorneys and the left-wing liberals for, and the ACLU and all these other vermin that are trying to destroy the fabric of this country. And I'm not a right-winger, but I...

1:08:17 Dedee Pfeiffer I'm actually a liberal, but I agree with you.

1:08:18 Adam I'm liberal.

1:08:19 Dedee Pfeiffer It's really messed up right now. They can't do their jobs.

1:08:22 Adam I'm liberal in most senses, too, when it comes to, you know, women's rights and drugs and all that kind of stuff. But you gotta let cops be cops. True. And here's the problem. They go on these high-speed pursuits now, and they can do nothing. Their thing is back off, lay back, don't put any pressure on the guy, and wait till he runs out of gas.

1:08:43 Dedee Pfeiffer Right. That's just insane. What message does it send to these criminals?

1:08:46 Adam Well, not only...

1:08:46 Dedee Pfeiffer Because you've got a tank of gas and a faster car than them. I mean, just keep going?

1:08:50 Adam Well, I mean, the thing is, I had one of these things go by my house about a year ago. It literally went up my canyon. I live up Beachwood Canyon. It goes up the canyon. The cops follow them up the canyon. They wind out through all the side streets. They actually drive right by my house. It's kind of fun seeing your house from a helicopter. I realized I was missing a roofing tile up on the ridge. I had that replaced. You don't oftentimes get that few up there. And it wound around the house and eventually connected with Beachwood and went back down into Hollywood. And then the guy got on the freeway and the thing ended up, this thing was all over the news, and ended up out in Kenoga Park. This guy took the freeway, got on the 101, he drove all the way through the valley, got all the way down to the West Valley, I'm talking about 25 miles from Hollywood, got off, sped down like Tampa or Topanga Canyon or something. Eventually something happened down miles and miles away. Now, they could have cut him off when he headed up Beachwood Canyon.

1:09:50 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, easy.

1:09:50 Adam There's only one way out of that.

1:09:53 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, it's like a cul-de-sac.

1:09:54 Adam He actually went up, went all through the streets, turned around and then came right back down that way. Now, here's the deal. No, they can't set up a roadblock for fear of this. We don't want to agitate him. He might charge the roadblock or something like that. But here's my point. This is all going on in Hollywood at 3.30 in the afternoon. You live in Canoga Park and you're picking up your kid from school an hour later and this guy runs over your kid. How pissed are you?

1:10:21 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, but they could have got him at Beachwood an hour before.

1:10:24 Caller An hour before they could have got him over?

1:10:26 Dedee Pfeiffer The dead end street that he turned around and went back down.

1:10:28 Adam Right. Now, I'm saying this guy, it's like, okay, it's dangerous any way you slice it, but one way he's covered 85 miles. He's weaving in and out of traffic. He's going against the grain. How irate would you be if you were victimized by this guy a hundred miles after the pursuit started? This is a ridiculous policy.

1:10:48 Dedee Pfeiffer The casualties become greater the longer you allow them to go out there, running stop signs, going, you know.

1:10:55 Adam The more, the more, right.

1:10:56 Dedee Pfeiffer I say put your car to let them bash into him, piss him off a little bit, shoot his tires out, do what you can to stop them.

1:11:00 Drew Remember they used to set up like bulldozers?

1:11:02 Caller Yeah.

1:11:04 Dedee Pfeiffer Well, they weren't afraid to do their jobs back then. And it's true right now, they're really afraid of pissing off a certain group or God knows, you know, lawsuit or what have you, and having a group of people screaming and yelling at him.

1:11:14 Adam I just, you know, the deal is, is there's got to be some sort of mathematical equation for like each three and a half minutes of a pursuit. You put X amount of people in danger, depending on where it is, pedestrians, motorists, whoever. And because of that equation, you should just halt it as soon as you possibly can. Yeah. And it just seems like a horrible policy that we'll hang back and see what happens. Well, the guy freaks out. Then the other half of the time, the guy jumps out of the car and runs into some nursery or something.

1:11:42 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, exactly.

1:11:42 Adam He starts grabbing kids. It's like for hostages.

1:11:45 Dedee Pfeiffer Right. Actually, you chase him all the way to the nursery where he parked and ran and jumped in. Yeah.

1:11:49 Adam I'm just saying, can't we grease a society that...

1:11:51 Dedee Pfeiffer There's got to be a way to allow them to do their jobs.

1:11:54 Adam Let's just take a vote. That's all I'm saying. All right. We're on the same page here, right?

1:11:59 Dedee Pfeiffer Absolutely. I agree with you 1000%.

1:12:00 Adam All right. Dedee Pfeiffer, my new best friend, our guest here tonight on the cover of this month's Playboy. And we'll be back.

1:12:09 Caller LoveLine, LoveLine, we'll be right back.

1:12:39 Hi, this is Mark from Blink-A-Nade 2, and you are listening to Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on Loveline. I have a really big dick.

1:12:46 Adam Hey, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. She's actually on front signing Playboys. Dedee is also on For Your Love, not to mention the cover and inside the issue of the February edition of this Playboy, which is out on newsstands now. Here she comes. Dedee, come on, baby. What is it with those Playboy nerds?

1:13:16 Dedee Pfeiffer Actually, I was talking to your guy out there about Rottweilers, but anyways.

1:13:19 Adam Yeah, but the Playboy really brings out the nerd. Like when we have rock bands in here and people come in and want to sign a drumhead or magazine or something, that's the street, the run-of-the-mill sort of street nerd. But when the Playboy issues come out, boy, you really dig deep. Super-nerd-ism coming out. And it's a weird, weird little, it's a weird life. These people, they camp out in front of hot spots, restaurants, trendy restaurants. In New York, if you ever go to the Riga Royal Hotel, there will always be a line of people standing out on the curb because celebrities always stay there and they hit them up when they come out. But they're selling the crap on eBay or whatever they make. They're living with this.

1:14:06 Dedee Pfeiffer That's what someone said to me. I'm a sign, hundreds of them. They're like, all these guys are about to make a lot of money. I'm like, oh.

1:14:12 Adam They have these three by five cards. They go, just sign your name here.

1:14:15 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, just these white little cards. And I was wondering why.

1:14:17 Adam And they go, you go, all right. Well, who do you want me to make this out to? And they go, just put your name.

1:14:23 Dedee Pfeiffer Just your name, yeah. And you're like, four of them. You're like, okay, why am I sending four white cards?

1:14:26 Adam Yeah, sign four white cards. And if you could put your date and if we just get your driver's license and we can authenticate this and a semen sample, that would be, we'll run that through the lab.

1:14:37 Dedee Pfeiffer So they do that to you guys too? You guys get the white cards?

1:14:39 Adam Yeah, you get the white cards. And here's the thing that's always funny about that is, there's always a group of people that's out front of the Riga Royal Hotel over there in New York. And there's a group of 10 or 15 people. Now, not all 10 or 15 goes, oh my God, there's Adam Corolla from Basic Cable. There's two or three guys who are sort of in our show's range that run over. The other 10 are following the three that ran over because this is a potential celebrity here we gotta get.

1:15:08 Dedee Pfeiffer I get that a lot too. I don't know why they're going over to me.

1:15:11 Adam Some four foot Vietnamese woman will go, who are you? And you go, I'm a man. You sign. You know, and you're like, okay, is this for your kid, honey?

1:15:20 Dedee Pfeiffer I had that last night. There was all these men asking for autographs. This little girl who was standing with a little book kind of just looked at me and thought, well, okay, just gave me the book. And I was like, I said, oh, sweetie, you want autographs? She's looking at me, yeah. I go, do you know who I am? She's like, no, I'm like, that's all right. I signed it.

1:15:35 Adam You were Sybil's eldest daughter.

1:15:37 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, the apatite pregnant one.

1:15:39 Adam Yeah, one day I would like to conduct a little social experiment where we just have totally unknown civilian people stand in malls. And we have about 10 plants run up to them and get autographs and see how many, how many vermin just run along and get them to sign something too. I think you could, I think it would work.

1:15:59 Dedee Pfeiffer Last night I heard people going, who is she, who is she? Like down the line, Michelle Pfeiffer's little sister. Oh, and all of a sudden their pads of paper were flying out. I was at a WB All-Star party. I was there to promote For Your Love, but all the, most of the people knew was I was Michelle's sister, so they started throwing pads at me.

1:16:14 Adam Can you sign this, Michelle Pfeiffer?

1:16:18 Dedee Pfeiffer Oh, I've had them say, can you have Michelle sign this as well and get it back to me? Oh, yeah. Or the fans have sent me letters saying, can you get Michelle's, I tried her, hit a wall, can you get it? I was like, oh, that's just kind of rude and nasty and gross and there's no way. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1:16:32 Adam We're my friend Michelle, and just write your last name there, please. Thank you. Thank you.

1:16:37 Dedee Pfeiffer Could get Michelle, but I got your younger sister. Close enough, it's blood.

1:16:40 Adam Erica?

1:16:41 Caller Yeah.

1:16:42 Adam You're 17?

1:16:43 Caller Yes.

1:16:43 Adam What's up?

1:16:44 Caller Okay. I just had a question. I've been sexually active for a few years now, and I just recently, about six months ago, stopped having sex. The whole time that I was active, I've never been able to have an orgasm. Then since I've stopped, I have this, I don't know what it is, like sexual, I need to have sex, but I don't want to, and so every night, like almost every single night, I have a dream, which leads into an actual orgasm, but I can't do it when I actually have sex.

1:17:21 Drew Have you tried masturbating?

1:17:22 Caller Yeah.

1:17:23 Drew And?

1:17:24 Caller It doesn't work. It doesn't work. I can always get, like, I start to climax, and then it's like, it just stops.

1:17:31 Adam Well, let me ask this, and maybe you don't know the answer, but you have a dream where you orgasm, and with women, since often times there's no product or evidence of the orgasm, maybe you're just having a dream that you're orgasming, and not actually orgasming.

1:17:45 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah. Are you waking up during the orgasm?

1:17:48 Caller Yeah. Like, I'll wake up, and my body will be shivering.

1:17:53 Drew It's definitely happening.

1:17:54 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah. Trust me, that's exactly what that is.

1:17:56 Adam Well, sounds good.

1:17:57 Dedee Pfeiffer Those are awesome, aren't they? They'll be easy to know.

1:18:02 Adam Easy, baby.

1:18:03 Dedee Pfeiffer Sorry. I call them freebies. You just go to sleep, you wake up going, whoa, that was unexpected, and really most appreciated.

1:18:10 Adam Yeah. Me, I call them freebies, but the maid don't call them a freebie. That's called a bitchy.

1:18:17 Dedee Pfeiffer You guys tell me, but what I've always thought is for a woman, when she can, in certain circumstances, but not able to while she's having sex, or even when masturbation is because of something in her head. Yes. For me, when I was younger, there was something mentally that was blocking me from going.

1:18:34 Drew Was it blocking or was it just that sort of skill?

1:18:36 Adam It wasn't developed.

1:18:37 Drew Yeah, it wasn't developed.

1:18:38 Dedee Pfeiffer See, for me, it was skill. I mean, I'll be honest, masturbation enabled me to figure more about my body to know exactly how it's going.

1:18:45 Drew But it is for all women basically. It's a thing that needs to be developed. For men, it's already laid down.

1:18:51 Dedee Pfeiffer Right.

1:18:51 Drew It's already really good.

1:18:51 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah. So I think that for me, it was also like a little bit of shame and embarrassment. I was not raised as a sexual person. Actually, it was like the old school. You know, if you got caught doing anything such, you got slapped, punished.

1:19:01 Drew Believe me, your brothers?

1:19:04 Dedee Pfeiffer Ten years older.

1:19:05 Drew They were taking out bats and rolling up newspaper at your brothers. Didn't stop them. Right. You know what I'm saying? I guarantee you got ten times more attention to your brother taking the hands off themselves and doesn't stop them.

1:19:16 Caller Yeah.

1:19:17 Drew That's the reality.

1:19:18 Caller Yeah.

1:19:18 Adam So, Erica, well, you know the plumbing works, so that's good. And obviously you have some energy with sex. You started real early. And now you've decided to stop. So there's some energy there.

1:19:33 Dedee Pfeiffer Maybe she should try different ways of experimenting with herself alone in masturbation and experiment. And that could be with visual. It could be with books. It could be pictures.

1:19:42 Adam Well, give some tips to young ladies who may want to learn how to masturbate.

1:19:47 Dedee Pfeiffer Okay. When I was, you know, we used to do it for me in years ago with Anne Rice novels, those vampire novels. Don't ask me why, but they were just so erotic because they weren't on the nose, like porno, or where it was just visually.

1:20:01 Drew Again, the difference between men and women are right here.

1:20:03 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah. See, for a woman, this whole, like, because it was like this.

1:20:06 Adam No, guys are thinking you stuffed an Anne Rice novel in you?

1:20:11 Dedee Pfeiffer No, no, no.

1:20:12 Drew They're thinking they're pictures in those novels?

1:20:14 Dedee Pfeiffer No, but I would like read the book. I go to sleep and have these incredible dreams, and I was able to unlock these hidden doors in myself. And then when I was awake, you know.

1:20:22 Drew See, that is not about shame. That is about the operation of your brain for the female. The men do not operate that way at all.

1:20:29 Adam Well, here's the thing.

1:20:30 Drew At all.

1:20:30 Adam Women, I hate to say this, but women will find a way to blame the man for just about anything. You know, you guys are in trouble. I have a trouble masturbating at 14, and it's like, well, guys did it. But no, you're just, women are just different. They're just, they're different beings, and there's nothing wrong with that. But do you have any, do you have any sort of mechanical suggestions for young Eric?

1:20:54 Drew But it's interesting, she, in describing how it needs to be done, it goes right to an emotional, emotionally connected experience, which is maybe what you should be teaching young women, is that find a way to enter that emotional space where you function sexually.

1:21:06 Adam Well, she does when she's asleep, so it's there.

1:21:09 Dedee Pfeiffer Well, maybe she should investigate the dreams. What's going on in the dream that's allowing her to unleash those hidden doors, and maybe bring that to her conscious world at night when she's alone, light a little candle and then try to recreate that. See, for women, that's the idea of what we are.

1:21:23 Drew You masturbate, you light candles, don't you? Or is that you kill a goat, you light candles?

1:21:28 Dedee Pfeiffer It could be lighting a candle. For other women, it's like put on a leather and lock the doors, make sure that no one's peeking in your windows and just like, I don't know, don't do something really naughty to yourself, I don't know. I mean for every woman it's different.

1:21:39 Adam I think it's a good idea in that if she had something in her dream that brought her to orgasm, Focus on that. Then try to summon that up in your conscious life.

1:21:49 Dedee Pfeiffer Yeah, in your conscious.

1:21:51 Adam I had a dream last night that I was deep frying sheep.

1:21:57 Drew Whole sheep?

1:21:57 Adam Whole sheep.

1:21:58 Drew Sheared or unsheared?

1:22:03 Adam You know what? I didn't know. I didn't specify.

1:22:05 Dedee Pfeiffer That's just scary. What does that mean?

1:22:07 Adam That I was cooking. You know when they talk about deep frying turkeys? They just drop the old turkey in there. I was doing that with sheep, whole sheep, but yet then they were alive.

1:22:16 Drew Nice.

1:22:17 Adam After that.

1:22:18 Drew Oh, afterwards. So they were like cooked and alive.

1:22:21 Adam Extra crispy, herd. Somebody was saying that this was cruel. I was saying, no, they're fine. Then a big piece of one of the skin broke off on one of the sheep.

1:22:32 Drew It was like having shredded wheat on the outside.

1:22:34 Adam No, it didn't look that way. It looked like as if they were sheared and their skin had just been fried and darkened. Yet they were okay. But then I started thinking, maybe it did hurt the sheep.

1:22:44 Drew You are a sick effort.

1:22:44 Dedee Pfeiffer I was going to say, boy, I don't even know what that means.

1:22:48 Adam Keep frying whole live sheep and then hurting them.

1:22:51 Dedee Pfeiffer Then say, no, they're fine.

1:22:54 Adam Maybe I was hungry and cold or something.

1:22:57 Dedee Pfeiffer And counting sheep before you went to sleep to go to sleep? You were hungry?

1:23:01 Adam You count sheep to go to sleep, but in order to stay asleep, you fry them. People don't know that, Drew. Not you, Drew. Caller Drew?

1:23:12 Hey, yeah.

1:23:13 Adam What the hell does that mean? Something's wrong with me.

1:23:16 I deep fry sheep on a regular basis.

1:23:18 Adam Good man. Yeah. You're 30. What's up?

1:23:21 Caller Well, I've been, well, first of all, you guys, you rock. So thank you so much for everything.

1:23:27 Adam Thanks.

1:23:29 Caller I have, I'm sorry I'm boring you.

1:23:31 Adam No, that's Anderson.

1:23:32 Caller Okay. I've got a question about, I've been sort of contemplating getting a vasectomy. And I've gotten some, you know, some goods and bads. And I hear that you like people have a stronger chance of getting prostate cancer or whatever.

1:23:49 Drew Where did you hear that?

1:23:51 Caller God, I've just around, I have more than one person's.

1:23:54 Drew That is bizarre and absurd.

1:23:57 Caller Okay.

1:23:58 Adam So there's no truth to that. I've never heard that.

1:24:00 Caller Okay.

1:24:01 Dedee Pfeiffer I've never heard that either.

1:24:02 Adam Feel free. You have kids.

1:24:04 Drew Do you think we would do a procedure like that if it increased the risk of cancer?

1:24:07 Adam Well, I don't know.

1:24:08 Caller I mean, it seemed bizarre for sure. But it's, you know, I certainly heard it around. I do have a son and he's great. I just won't have any more kids.

1:24:15 Adam Okay. Good.

1:24:17 Caller I don't go to town.

1:24:18 Adam Thanks, guys.

1:24:19 Drew Maybe there's some statistical thing out there that slightly increased the risk. I'll have to look it up.

1:24:24 Adam Yeah. And again, it will be able to be explained away that guys who get vasectomies are more sexually active and get more venereal diseases and that leads to the whatever.

1:24:34 Drew That's right.

1:24:35 Adam See, all these statistics, you can always, if there's a statistic that doesn't make sense, you can always turn the page and a few pages later, you'll find out what the real reason is. Thank you. All right. Like that crazy bitch who came on this show. Oh, what was her name? What was her name? That one from the abstinence department talking about health.

1:25:00 Drew Oh, I've been dealing with the pharmacy people to try to get a protocol together for getting people access to emergency contraception. It was bizarre. They were saying, we can't get a physician to sign on. I said, well, sign on. They were so paranoid about it, so let's get a little committee together of doctors so we'll all sign this thing. I said, there'd probably be a reaction from the right to life guy. They don't understand how this pill works. She goes, oh, no, no. Are you high?

1:25:24 Adam Who said this? A pharmacist?

1:25:25 Drew Pharmacy coalitions, and I said, are you high? Oh, no, it's the doctors who are worried about it. It's a turf war for them. I said, are you high?

1:25:31 Adam No.

1:25:31 Drew Give me a break.

1:25:32 Adam Doctors don't care about that.

1:25:33 Drew They don't care at all.

1:25:34 Caller All right, all right.

1:25:35 Adam Well, a couple of things before we run to break, which we're running late for. I heard that Walmart is possibly going under because they're having some problems with their stock or something like that. And I say good, because these are the people that would not carry the morning after.

1:25:52 Drew There is a guy in heaven, maybe he's looking for a drink.

1:25:54 Adam Good, good. All you white trash bumpkins can go shop somewhere else now, you idiots at Walmart. Thank you. Go under. Good. And number two, to that crazy abstinence bitch who was on this show a year ago telling me that, what was she saying, Drew?

1:26:11 Drew That you could have cancer.

1:26:12 Adam Women who are on birth control.

1:26:14 Drew Got cancer with it?

1:26:15 Adam Had a higher percentage of getting cancer. No, that wasn't it.

1:26:21 Drew There's something more outrageous than that.

1:26:22 Adam We gotta figure this out. All right, we're gonna take a break and I'll be back to yell at her after this.

1:26:27 Caller Hello, this is your radio. LoveLine will be right back.

1:27:07 Adam Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew over there. Dedee Pfeiffer is our guest tonight. For Your Love, Sunday night, WB, 930, and also on the cover of this month's Playboy and in the pages. We have a Loveline correction. It is not Walmart. It is Kmart that is having a stock problem. So my pox on Walmart did not work apparently.

1:27:31 Drew And I went on the web and looked up any articles on prostate cancer and vasectomy, and I found one good 1999 article that showed clearly no link between vasectomy and prostate cancer.

1:27:41 Adam That is the beauty of that computer. And the last piece of unfinished business was the woman from the Absinence Foundation who was on the show. Said, and what got us started on this, beside my bitterness and willingness never to let anything go, is that you got to take a real close look at the statistics. They can be spun in many different ways and it depends whose Cuisinart they get put in. And for instance, this situation was, she said that women who were on birth control, meaning the pill, had a much substantial, substantial rate of increase in becoming infected for HIV. And I said, well, because they're on the pill and they're not using protection, I mean, they're not using condoms, their partners aren't, they're getting exposed more. And plus, you could also surmise that women who are on the pill were more sexually active than the ones that weren't. And they're putting themselves at risk. And she said, nope, not that. It is the pill that is making them a higher increase. And she said, substantial. And I said, what is the number? And she had no number. And I said, if there was a substantial number, you would know it. And she said, I could get it. And I said, you don't have it. And she kept saying, I'm going to get this number. And I said, you don't have it because you'd say it. And listen, bitch, I'm still waiting. It's been a year. Bring that number, you fat effing liar. Bring it. Bring me that substantial number, you liar.

1:29:12 Drew Why doesn't using the pill appear on a little hierarchy of risks here?

1:29:15 Adam OK. And let me ask you this, to this person or anyone who knows her and you're lucky, I can't remember your name. I know you're Jenny. Jenny was her name? OK. You're a religious salad, right? What about lying? Isn't that something God doesn't want you to do? Yeah, that's a sin. And you could completely nullify all this by just bringing in that big substantial number that you claim exists out there that I know doesn't. So bring it in, you coward liar. Jenny Bionbi, somebody tell her to bring Adam that number. I know it doesn't exist, you liar.

1:29:50 Drew Constance.

1:29:51 Adam Yes.

1:29:52 Caller Hi.

1:29:53 Adam Hey, what's happening?

1:29:54 Caller Well, I wanted to know if you can give me some advice. I'm married, very happy, I have a wonderful husband. He has got a beautiful ass. And...

1:30:08 Drew And it's just as hard for her to talk about it, you know, she's not used to talking openly about these kinds of things. It's a tough topic for her.

1:30:13 Dedee Pfeiffer She sounds like me, I'm always talking about my husband's ass.

1:30:15 Drew It's very difficult to forget, but what is it, the concepts you'd like to discuss?

1:30:18 Caller Well, how do I, you know, talk my husband into letting me play with his? You know?

1:30:24 Drew In what way?

1:30:25 Caller In what way? Well, I'd like to strap one on.

1:30:28 Drew Oh. So she's already finishing school?

1:30:32 Adam Yeah. You could, well, could she drug him and do this to him?

1:30:37 Caller Well, no.

1:30:38 Dedee Pfeiffer I mean, she's living for a legal way.

1:30:40 Caller You know, I mean, what can I say to him?

1:30:42 Adam Well, let me ask this.

1:30:44 Caller Yes.

1:30:44 Adam Does he do things to your ass?

1:30:48 Caller Yes.

1:30:48 Adam Yes. And is he insistent on that? Is it something he's been pushing?

1:30:54 Caller It's not a pressure thing at all. In fact, I kind of enjoy it.

1:30:58 Adam Okay.

1:30:58 Caller And, you know, I would like to share enjoyment like that. I think it would probably make his, you know, orgasms better.

1:31:08 Drew Have you, no. Have you brought this up with him?

1:31:12 Caller Oh, I try to talk to him and all I hear is they, no. I mean, is there a way I can approach him? You know.

1:31:16 Caller Yeah.

1:31:16 Drew They just realize the orgasms are not going to get better. That they're not doing this for him.

1:31:21 Adam What's in it for you to get him to do something he doesn't want to do?

1:31:25 Caller Well, no.

1:31:26 Caller I'd like to, you know, some advice on maybe, you know, talking him into starting something small.

1:31:32 Drew Adam asked a question, though.

1:31:34 Caller What's in it for me? I don't know. It's fascinating to me. I thought, well, I saw a German show. It was a clip from a German show on HBO. And they had a, I mean, a whole seminar on, you know, women doing that with their husbands.

1:31:48 Adam Yeah. They're such, you know, you know, the thing, you know, if you look at the two most refined and uptight societies, Germany and Japan, it's also where the most debauchery goes on, which says to me that when you try to keep people in too rigid a line, they snap and go south sometimes too. All that weird ass stuff is coming out of Germany. Meanwhile, if you live in an apartment in Germany and you have a wind chime out on your balcony, you'll get reported and they'll have to take it down. You know what I mean? Think about this, Drew. Nazi Germany. Coincidence?

1:32:22 Drew Coincidence.

1:32:22 Adam I think not. The point is, but if not writing you up for the wind, the guy who writes you up for the wind chime has got a dildo up his ass. Isn't it interesting that energy's got to go somewhere?

1:32:35 Drew Right. Well, it's intensified too.

1:32:37 Adam Oh, yeah. Okay, but...

1:32:38 Drew How do you focus?

1:32:39 Adam Listen, I worry a little about Constance.

1:32:42 Drew She sounds so well put together, though.

1:32:44 Adam She sounds put together, but I worry. Constance?

1:32:46 Caller Yes?

1:32:47 Adam I just, we worry a little about you.

1:32:49 Caller Well, I mean, I do feel put together. I have a very loving relationship with my husband. I mean, it's very loving. He's awesome and bad.

1:32:56 Adam All right. Well, Kay, what about respecting his wish not to have something in his ass?

1:33:00 Caller Well, you know, I mean, I was thinking, hopefully I could get him to start small and I'd like to work up.

1:33:07 Drew Okay, Constance, here's the reality. It's not going to feel good to him. That's reality.

1:33:12 Adam Here's what I don't understand. Like I asked before, he doesn't want this. Why, what's in it for you to get him to do something that he doesn't want to do?

1:33:21 Caller Well, I'd like to maybe work it up to get an amazing job.

1:33:26 Drew Oh, very good. He didn't sound like somebody would be doing this to me.

1:33:30 Adam No, but that's good. That's an old LoveLine job.

1:33:34 Drew Who put her up there? I gotta find out who put her up to this.

1:33:36 Adam Yeah, that's good. Who put her up to this? We gotta take a break. You wanna talk to her off the air?

1:33:40 Drew We gotta find out who put her up to it.

1:33:43 Adam It just goes to show you that no woman has ever legitimately called and begged to do something in the ass of her husband. All right, we'll take ourselves a little break. Drew, talk to her off the air so we can suss her out. We'll be back.

1:33:57 Caller Okay, so I know there's nothing wrong with me, so what's up?

1:34:00 Caller So I was like you and I used to think that these datelines were totally cheesy.

1:34:03 Caller Why can't I meet anybody?

1:34:04 Caller But I tried everything else and thought, what the hell? So I called the dateline and actually met a cool guy.

1:34:08 Caller And I called the dateline and I hooked up with some cool people.

1:34:10 Caller Believe it or not, other normal people are out there looking too.

1:34:12 Drew 877-889-DATE.

1:34:15 Caller Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:34:18 Caller We'll be right back.

1:34:47 Adam All right, that is it. I want to thank Michelle Pfeiffer's sister for swinging by.

1:34:56 Caller You're welcome.

1:34:58 Dedee Pfeiffer I'll get to you for that later, by the way.

1:34:59 Adam For Your Love, everybody, on WWW...

1:35:03 Caller WB.

1:35:03 Adam WB, on 9.30 Sunday night, and also on The Current Playboy on Newsstands Now. Thanks a lot.

1:35:10 Dedee Pfeiffer Hey, thank you.

1:35:12 Adam We will be back in about 22 hours. Until next time, I'm Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo. Well, what's wrong with having clean shoes? I don't know, bitch, why'd you call?

1:35:22 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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