Episode 1000754886832

1:01 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Coast to coast.

1:12 Adam Hey, Loveline, everybody. How is ya?

1:16 Drew Wow. You look like a steamboat in here.

1:19 Voiceover I'm Adam Corolla. That's my good partner. Sometimes lover, Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. I would be remiss if I did not mention that it is The Man Show's big premiere tonight. All new episodes of The Man Show, Comedy Central, as we speak.

1:41 Drew This is the beginning of the season or this is re-entry?

1:44 Adam I don't know. I was talking to my carpenter guy on the way in on the cell phone and he said he was trying to watch it and it reminded me that I think the new ones are in tonight. David, turn that Man Show on and see if there's a new one on there tonight.

1:59 Drew How's he going to know?

2:00 Adam That's true. Well, you can just tell me what's happening and I can probably tell you. So Drew and I were in Tucson yesterday. We flew back today.

2:10 Drew Back on the plane.

2:12 Adam Had breakfast in Tucson. Very romantic. You know what occurred to me? What? As you know, Drew, I like to talk.

2:20 Drew Oh, yeah.

2:21 Adam It's actually, it's not really talk. It's more complain.

2:24 Drew Let's talk. Let's talk.

2:27 Adam Talk with a...

2:28 Drew A negative spin.

2:29 Adam A negative spin. And this restaurant we went into this morning at 8.30 in the morning in Tucson was like a library. Like a cathedral.

2:38 Drew I know.

2:39 Adam Did you notice that?

2:40 Drew It's kind of uncomfortable.

2:41 Adam It is because I have a nasally booming voice and a real... And I espouse bizarre notions about eliminating Israel and all sorts of bizarre Hitler or Wellian designs for the country. And I know if anyone is with an earshot, they're going to want to shoot me.

3:00 Drew But God bless you. Normally when you're in a situation like that, you speak kind of louder. This morning you were kind of talking like this. Well, even though you were talking about how bizarre anyone is who has a religion, Japan's even really what you were saying.

3:11 Adam It's too quiet. And tell me if this doesn't anger all you people. Don't you hate it when you go to a restaurant. Now the worst thing is when they sit you right next to some guy who's just sitting there reading a novel.

3:23 Drew Yeah.

3:23 Adam And he's literally, his table, I mean he's at another table, but literally the guy's three and a half, four feet from you. And if you're having a conversation with your buddy, your wife, your girlfriend, your partner, or whatever, this person might as well just be sitting at the table with you, just listening to your conversation. So I don't like that guy, but I understand it. He's lonely, wants to have some eggs, and he's got the newspaper. The thing that I don't like is the couple who won't talk to each other, who's sitting right next to your table. So you're talking and you look over at them, everyone's going to think, well, they're a couple. They got their own conversation going, they don't need to hear ours. But you realize ten minutes has gone by, not a word has been exchanged between the two. You realize, now I got two people listening. Did you notice there was a couple of couples, slightly older couples?

4:11 Drew Oh yeah, they sat one down right by us.

4:13 Adam Angry.

4:14 Drew Hey, I was monitoring all this, Adam. We didn't have this discussion, but I was a little bit anxious about how this was going to go down.

4:20 Adam Apparently, this is what happens when you've been married for 40 years.

4:23 Drew No.

4:23 Adam You go out to breakfast, you sit down and you just sit there for 45 minutes, you never say a word.

4:27 Drew You know what, I look at a couple and I think, that is so pathetic. My girlfriend and I chat the whole time. We have a million things to talk about. We have a million things to talk about.

4:36 Adam How could you do politically incorrect at the Playboy Mansion and not mention anything to me?

4:40 Drew How dare you? We have a chance to do this.

4:44 Adam But imagine 20 years from now the kids are all gay, they are with their partners, they have dropped out of law school and there is really not much to discuss. And there you are. So anyway, yeah, so here is the couples and like I said, I want to stand up at some point and go, hey, would you MFers have your own goddamn conversation? Stop listening to us. What are you two doing? You are just staring at each other.

5:05 Drew I thought you would be pleased with that. I thought everyone was listening to me.

5:08 Adam No, I don't like the eavesdropping.

5:11 Drew And to stop watching the man show and stop putting the drops in here.

5:14 Adam No, that's fine. That's fine. So anyway, that was interesting. Then we got on the plane and we ran into this dude. The plane is packed. Drew has a difficulty getting the flight. There's a little confusion. But we end up both making it onto the plane. I walk over. I walk into the plane first because I got my ticket. And I said, Drew, I'll see if I can't get a seat together. Small plane, 50 seater, two on each side of the aisle. Right.

5:42 Drew And right then I got a seat number. I yelled out to you, 4C, I'll be in 4C. Let's see what the guy is doing in 4D.

5:48 Adam I go over to 4C. There's one guy sitting there. And my seat is the empty seat next to him. And I say, pardon me, sir, are you traveling alone? And he says, yes. And I say, I'm traveling with my partner. Would you mind it if I gave you my ticket? And he gave you his ticket. And we could sit together. And he said, no, no. And I sort of thought I misunderstood him. I said, so I'm traveling with my partner. And he said, no, no. There was no other discussion surrounding it. It was just, it's just, no, I don't. It was like, it was like a weird kind of adolescent things. If the guy was in his 40s, maybe 50s. No, I don't want to do that.

6:37 Drew Yeah, it's bizarre. And so here's, I move all the time for people. I wouldn't even think about not doing it.

6:41 Adam What difference does it make?

6:42 Drew What difference does it make?

6:43 Adam You're sitting alone on a goddamn plane. Does it matter if you're sitting three, three feet up or five feet back? It is bizarre. And then here's the other thing that, that, that steams my bean with this. One of us is going to be sitting next to the guy.

6:58 Drew After that.

7:00 Adam You really want the pissed off guy sitting next to you, who you wouldn't move for while his partner, while his girlfriend, while his wife or whatever is sitting in the back of the plane PO'd? They're not sitting together? That's the guy you're going to have next to you for the whole flight? Well, what kind of life strategy is this? And by the way, does it, does it, is there zero difference? And it's funny, Drew and I were talking before we got on the plane about our strategy with this stuff, which is, hey, if you got a chance to be a hero, I mean, if you can make someone's day.

7:30 Drew There's nothing for you.

7:31 Adam You don't burn a calorie. Why not?

7:33 Drew Although, strangely, we had that conversation and predicting we'd have trouble.

7:37 Adam Right.

7:37 Drew Remember?

7:37 Right.

7:41 Adam No. No.

7:43 Drew Then there's the other guy. Then there's the other guy.

7:44 Adam No. There's another guy. So then Drew and I worked a little and we got our own seat together.

7:52 Drew The back of the plane.

7:53 Adam And Drew got to there and he got there with his luggage and he was trying to stuff it up in the overhead bin and there wasn't enough room up there. So Drew pulled out two blankets and a pillow and it was a small plane, so he was kind of looking for space. And there was another guy who was sitting right across there who just had an open seat next to him. No one was sitting in it. And Drew said to a guy, Hey, can I set this pillow and blanket down on this open seat to make myself some room in the overhead bin? And the guy said, No. No. It's like the weird no plane. Like you've got an empty seat next to you. You want to put a pillow and a blanket down on it? No.

8:31 Drew That kind of stuff never happens to me. Do you piss people off? Is that the thing here?

8:35 Adam My neighbors don't like me.

8:37 Drew Maybe this is the deal here. Maybe when I'm with you people will take me like crazy.

8:40 Adam You're right. They're jealous. They're jealous of my looks. What else could it be? What else could it be? But here's my whole thing. We're going to calls now. But this is all I want to say. I understand the no. Like I understand when I'm driving I'll cut somebody off, I'll throw them the bird, I'll do stuff and then I'll drive away thinking, oh man, oh man. But when you're going to sit next to them for the next hour and a half, two hours, I mean literally the two people that told us no were within inches of us for the next two hours. Isn't that kind of uncomfortable to have the guy you just told no, the guy you just pissed off just plopping down right next to you now?

9:15 Drew Oh, and then some old lady got on board.

9:20 Adam An old lady got on, and just as they were closing the door, this fat old lady got on board. She was waddling all the way to the back of the plane, and she was heading right for this guy's open seat where Drew wanted to put his blanket. And she got there, and the guy had to get up and stuff, and I turned around and I went, There's your blanket, buddy. Enjoy.

9:40 Drew You're a nice guy, Adam. I wonder why people treat you like crap. I don't understand.

9:43 Adam Oh, well, ask them. Ask them.

9:45 Drew Oh, that'll make them treat you nicer. That's good. Brad's 17. Brad, what's going on?

9:49 Hey, pretty much my question is like this. There's this girl at my work, and I know she likes me, or I know she's at least attracted to me, and I really like her a lot, but...

10:02 Drew How old is she?

10:03 She's 16.

10:04 Drew What's the problem?

10:06 Well, I just don't know.

10:08 First of all, she has a boyfriend, and I really want to talk to her.

10:12 Drew Wait, wait, wait. You haven't spoken to her yet?

10:14 No, I've talked to her.

10:17 Drew And you get the vibe that she likes you?

10:19 No, another co-employee, like after, for me. I'm pretty much positive about her.

10:26 Drew Where do you work?

10:27 I work for Santa Cruz Seaside.

10:30 Drew Like what's that?

10:31 Adam Isn't everything in Santa Cruz Seaside?

10:34 Well, it's the boardwalk.

10:36 Drew The boardwalk. Oh, okay.

10:37 Adam The hot dog on a stick? No, no, no. Okay. And this guy is not pulling your chain. I mean, this guy said she liked you.

10:47 Drew He's not screwing with you. Or was it a girl that came up to you?

10:50 Another good friend of mine that asked her.

10:53 Drew Oh, you sent someone to ask her if she was into you?

10:56 Pretty much.

10:56 Drew All right, so you got a green light.

10:58 Adam But, okay.

10:59 Drew I don't understand why people are reluctant to do what I suggest they do, which is go ahead and state your case and let them know that if they're going to break up with their boyfriend, as soon as they do, there you are. You're ready.

11:11 Adam You don't have to fool anyone who likes you into anything.

11:15 Drew Right.

11:15 Adam If somebody likes you, you don't have to fool them. Guys are under the impression that I've got to figure out a way to trick this chick to liking me or trick this chick into dating me. If she ain't into you, you can't trick her.

11:29 Drew Right.

11:29 Adam And if she is into you, you don't need to trick her. If she's a... Drew, you know, if she's hot for him, if he did... Give me the Drew line.

11:37 Drew What?

11:38 Adam Give the Drew line that you would do.

11:39 Drew Oh, yeah, yeah. That if you're interested, I would definitely want to go out with you, but let me know as soon as you... Here's my number. As soon as you break up with your boyfriend, I'm on.

11:48 Adam And if they're interested...

11:49 Drew They'll call.

11:50 Adam They'll say what? They must say, What boyfriend? That guy?

11:52 Drew That's right. He's already gone. But it's interesting that one of the colleges I visited last week came up with a question. The guys were like, Beware of the... And the women in the room were shocked. Like, What do you mean? You can tell. We'll let you know.

12:06 Adam When we're like...

12:07 Drew Yeah.

12:09 Adam Let's talk to Todd, who's 22. Todd?

12:14 Yeah.

12:15 I have a question for Dr. Drew. A friend of mine recently told me that there's a high risk of a heart attack by mixing Vodko with Gatorade. I don't know if you can help me out with this, but...

12:31 Drew Where did he read this or hear about this?

12:33 It was a she, but... He said it was in a magazine. She's a very trusting friend, so I don't think she's, you know, tracking.

12:39 Drew Well, I'm open. Do we have a fax machine that's working? Ann? Do we have a fax machine that works around here? What's the number? Here we go. No, don't use it? Well, that's good. Thanks for telling me we got a machine.

12:52 Adam We got the Tractor Feed paper finally. It came from the former Soviet Republic. But they say there's a chance that it may catch on fire if it's activated, so it's best not to... It's not plugged in.

13:05 Drew Reason being, I want to... If anybody knows about this, has any articles or whatever can substantiate this, I'd be willing to look at them. I can't imagine how that would be true. Neither of those things have anything in them that have anything to do really with cardiac function.

13:18 Adam But Drew, you always talk about drinking that Gatorade when you're hung over.

13:23 Drew That's a good thing.

13:24 Adam Yeah. So it may not be bad to mix it with booze. I know that's not Todd's argument, but you know what I'm saying?

13:30 Drew Yeah, yeah.

13:32 I don't think there's any complications that can be...

13:34 Adam Todd, Todd, Todd. Yeah. How hooked on Gatorade and scotch are you? That you need to...

13:43 It's just my drink. I like it.

13:45 Adam You like Gatorade and what?

13:46 Drew Vodka? Maybe they're concerned about the amount of alcohol you're consuming. They're just generally trying to discourage you. And you got a fax machine for me?

13:55 No, last time we got busted.

13:56 Drew Don't do it. You got busted? Yeah, because jammed up, it's like the fax machine for the whole building. Oh, Gatorade.

14:01 Have them post up at adamanddrew.com. Andrew, A-N-D-D, drew.com.

14:07 Drew There's a message board there. It's in one word, adamanddrew.com. Alright, put a message board in there.

14:12 Adam He's never going to do that. Todd, what's your drink?

14:17 Gatorade and vodka. About any type of Gatorade.

14:20 Adam Good times. That's almost as white trash as like Mountain Doom for Muth.

14:26 No, it's a good drink.

14:27 It really is. It's junk.

14:29 Adam It's horrible.

14:29 Drew Well, maybe they're trying to say something about your alcohol consumption more than about that particular drink.

14:33 Adam What do they call that, a jockstrap? That would be a great name for that drink, wouldn't it?

14:38 I have no idea.

14:40 Adam Thanks, then.

14:41 Hey, Adam.

14:42 Adam Hey, Todd.

14:42 Yeah.

14:43 Adam Why don't you make the name of that drink?

14:46 Drew Todd? No.

14:49 Adam How stupid is this entire country now? I want that drink called the jockstrap.

14:54 The jockstrap, okay.

14:55 Adam Okay, can you do that?

14:56 Yeah, I'll try.

14:57 Adam Start ordering the jockstrap.

14:58 Drew There's never been a drink called a jockstrap before.

15:00 Adam There should be one.

15:01 Drew There should be. Two words go together.

15:02 Adam Yeah, you're pulling bar. Give me a jockstrap and like a Stolley Chaser or something. All right, what's up there, Todd?

15:11 I think you should do the Tobias from the Man Show. I think it has a really good skit.

15:19 Adam Thanks, buddy. Thanks. Thank you. Man Show, the psychic, Tobias. Man Show on tonight, big premiere, right? It's a new one, you think? Yeah. I don't know. Hey, I can't. All right. I'm going nuts. You know why I'm going nuts? Why? Because Damien printed on the screen what Man Show episode it was. It says, Man Show Boy Sells Beer. And I go, oh yeah, I remember that one. That was funny. And it says, Adam Gets New Shirt. And I have no idea what that means.

15:49 Drew Is that right, Anderson? Adam Gets New Shirt?

15:51 Adam What does that mean?

15:51 He's making a joke because Adam wore like the same shirt all last season, I guess.

15:56 Adam Listen, Tard, leave the bad humor to me. Would you just confuse me? Adam Gets New Shirt.

16:03 That's the same old stuff to me.

16:05 Adam It's the same shirt. Fine. But do you know what I'm saying, Drew?

16:08 Drew Yes, yes.

16:09 Adam It's confusing to me. Yes. I'm distracted because of the last four calls I've been trying to process. What the hell bit that I do called Adam Gets a New Shirt?

16:18 Drew Your delicate sensibilities have been violated. I understand.

16:22 Adam If you're making a joke, tell me you're making a joke. That's the only way I'm going to know it's funny.

16:25 Drew Put ha-ha at the end.

16:27 Adam Now, even when you're telling me verbally, I want you to tell me it's a joke. Say ha-ha.

16:31 Drew Stacey.

16:32 Guest Hi.

16:33 Adam A.

16:35 Guest The reason why I'm calling is because I've been married for a year and a half now, and I came from a very abused childhood, very traumatic. And my husband, I've known him for three years, but every time I look at him, he reminds me of like my mother. My mother was murdered, and he also looks similar to my brother, my biological brother. And...

17:08 Adam Who murdered your mom?

17:10 Guest My father.

17:11 Adam Oh, good times.

17:13 Guest And so, I mean, I love my husband unconditionally, but sometimes I just look at him and I have to like close my eyes and like think of something else because he looks...

17:24 Adam How old were you when your mom was murdered?

17:26 Guest I was seven.

17:28 Adam Did you wee there?

17:29 Guest Yeah, I was in the house.

17:32 Adam What did your dad do? Did he shoot her?

17:34 Guest Mm-mm.

17:34 Stabbed her.

17:36 Adam Where is he? Prison?

17:37 Guest Incarcerated. Uh-huh.

17:39 Drew That's good.

17:39 Adam And does he... Is anyone you love going to just look like your mom, you think?

17:46 Well, I mean, I don't...

17:48 Guest I look like a mix, but like I've seen pictures...

17:51 Drew No, no, no, Stacey. I don't think she understands the question. Try it again.

17:55 Guest No, no, no. I don't... Nobody looks like them, but...

17:58 Drew But anyone, anyone... I love the type of face you all... Listen, listen. Anyone you were very intimately involved with... No. All right.

18:06 Adam Hold on a second.

18:09 Drew Didn't she just...

18:09 Adam She said no before... Does she know what we're talking about?

18:12 Drew I can't tell if she said no so fast that time.

18:16 Hmm.

18:17 Adam I'm mixed, you know. I feel bad because of what happened to her mom.

18:21 Drew Well, but it's nice that she can form a close attachment and it's getting distorted by all this old feeling.

18:26 Adam Well, Stacey, just because this is what this show is now distilled down into, which is me trying to figure out if people know what I'm talking about show. Here's what we're asking, Stacey. Please don't answer until we've asked it.

18:38 Caller Okay.

18:39 Adam And maybe you don't have an answer for this, but be open to it. Is it because your husband physically looks like your mother or is it because you love him and that you feel a bond with him and that that then reminds you of your mother?

19:00 Drew If he starts looking like your mother, the stronger you feel about him.

19:04 Guest No, because my mother abused me horribly when I was a child.

19:08 Adam Oh, so you hate her?

19:09 Guest Yeah.

19:09 Adam Alright, so when you met your husband...

19:11 Drew No, no, no, it still could.

19:12 Adam Still, no, I know, okay.

19:15 Drew That's a reason to back off of a real intimate attachment, project all that bad mom stuff on it, see?

19:20 Adam When you met him, when you first saw him, did you think he looked like your mom?

19:23 Guest Absolutely not.

19:25 Drew Okay, see.

19:25 Adam Well, so then it is what we're saying.

19:27 Drew It is exactly what we're saying.

19:28 Adam Okay, thank you.

19:30 Drew So that's not...

19:31 Adam We got to edit this show.

19:33 Drew Yeah.

19:34 Adam We'll just edit that chunk out.

19:35 Drew That'd be better, huh?

19:36 Adam And we'll edit this chunk that we're talking about. Yeah, that goes too.

19:38 Drew Yeah, I agree. Okay. Stacey, that may not be the greatest place to be working this kind of stuff out. The fact that you're having these feelings come up may not be a bad thing, but it could get pretty disruptive for your relationship. That's the kind of stuff really you want to work through with a therapist.

19:53 Guest And I have. I mean, I've been through years of therapy.

19:56 Drew That's probably why you're able to conjure this up to the point that you are. But maybe it's time to get back in there again a little bit because you're probably, I'm guessing, speculating, that you're getting into a point in your relationship that's quite real.

20:10 Guest Yes, because we're talking about having a child and I'm very petrified of it.

20:14 Drew That's the time to revisit your therapist. It's revoking a lot of stuff. It's an opportunity for you to work.

20:19 Adam Hey, Stacey. And look at, when's the last time you were in therapy?

20:26 Guest Probably four or five years ago.

20:28 Drew Yeah, you're an adult now. You may be ready to handle some more stuff now. Yeah, it's time to look at it again.

20:34 Adam Absolutely.

20:35 Guest It doesn't have anything to do with the, I don't love my husband.

20:39 Drew We know, we get it. It's that the fact that you do love him conjures up the feelings of ambivalence that you had attached to your very early love attachments. That the mom who you also loved became an abusive, horrible person who abandoned you and then ultimately was killed. And love and attachment brings back those ambivalent feelings again.

21:00 Adam Well, and also, look, Drew needs therapy because his wacky folks, and they didn't even try to kill each other. I mean, emotionally they did, but physically no, physically no.

21:12 Drew Not actually, that's right.

21:13 Adam Hey, look, if your mom, your dad killed your abusive mom who was abusive toward you, that's therapy.

21:22 Drew By the way.

21:22 Adam And look at it this way, everybody, those of you who have went for a few years and declared yourself sane. Look at therapy like you look at exercise for your body. It's an ongoing thing. Nobody says, nobody says in their thirties, I ran track in high school, I don't need to go to the gym.

21:40 Drew Right. People do do that, but that's how they screw themselves up, in fact.

21:43 Adam Well, but people, people will be laughed out of the room if they got a beer gut.

21:48 Drew Right.

21:48 Adam And they're telling you, I don't need to go to the gym because ten years ago, I ran on a cross-country team. Right. We'll kind of look at it that way. It's just kind of an ongoing thing. You don't have to be a bodybuilder. You don't have to get on the juice and move into the therapist's office, but once a week is good to break a sweat.

22:05 Drew Thank you, Drew.

22:06 Adam We're going to take a break. Has the man show gone to commercial yet? Yes, at commercial. Okay, we'll take another call. So, Damon, whatever your name is, is it at a commercial or not?

22:21 It's back on now, dude.

22:22 Adam All right, now we'll go to commercial. I never played something that you guys said about Damon when we come back. Okay, good. Please do. You know why? Why? Because I don't care. We'll be back. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Patricia Arquette will be in here tomorrow night. Bad Religion is coming in a little later in the week. 311 will be in here.

22:52 Drew December 10th.

22:53 Adam Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Kiedis are going to be in here the following Monday.

23:01 Drew Who's coming in from another teen movie ad? I see that later that same week. Jamie Pressley and Ron Lister are our buddies. Nice. Two chicks in the same bed.

23:17 Adam He needs two chicks. Alright, let's go to the phones. Wait a minute. I want to hear Anderson tempted us by saying he was going to play us something. I'm guessing horrible that we said about phone screener Damien.

23:29 Drew Damien heard it? Yeah, by mistake.

23:30 I had tape rolling off air about two months ago.

23:34 Drew Did Damien hear this? What? Damien's heard it with you.

23:38 Adam Oh, this is off the air?

23:40 Drew Alright.

23:40 Adam Let's hear it.

23:41 Drew Go ahead.

23:41 Adam So, what it was is he was telling you guys a story and then he walked out and closed the door.

23:47 Drew Oh, my God. Right, right.

23:55 Adam Yeah, we get it. Yeah.

23:57 Drew Alright.

23:58 Adam Now, give us some cotton. Give the kids.

24:01 Drew Yeah, I got it.

24:02 Adam Got it. That's how you're going to create that stuff, huh? Oh, Drew, you're laughing at him. That's it?

24:10 Drew Oh, that was a joke.

24:12 I could have added the other stuff.

24:14 Adam Jesus Christ. Well, you don't want to go through the tapes because there's going to be a bunch of stuff on you.

24:21 Drew I've heard the stuff.

24:23 Adam That wasn't bad. To put it in a context, I actually remember that Damien told us a story. I don't know what he told us, but then he left.

24:33 Drew I think it was a joke.

24:34 Adam A joke, yeah. Oh, there was no punch line? Well, I told you. That's why we have to have the policy of him telling us when it's a joke now by saying, ha ha. Come on, Damien. We know we love you. But then we made a joke about him getting coffee.

24:49 Drew You need to give him a job at the man show, though.

24:52 Adam Oh, we'll see. Oh, now, because of that? Please. Rose?

24:57 Guest Hi.

24:58 Adam You're 20?

24:59 Guest Yes, I am. Hi. What's up? Well, I'll tell you my question first before I launch into the background just to save you some time. My question basically is what is my move from here? You know, you guys tell people what they should, you know, what their next healthy step would be, so that's what I'm going to say. Basically, I'm in college on a sophomore and I can't stand it. I think it's superficial and people's relationships aren't based on true compassion and caring and they're based on, you know, who's party, you know, who's department the party's at or things like that.

25:36 Drew Well, welcome to college.

25:37 Guest Yeah, no, I know.

25:38 Drew What about, what I, you know, I hear a lot of dissatisfaction amongst women in college these days and I tell them, how about finding somebody just to date, hang out with, just start dating people, spend more time just face to face, then you'll feel less like that's just nothing you're getting. You're getting actually some time connecting with someone.

25:54 Guest I just have been done, right?

25:56 Drew Well, yeah, yeah, no. You could ask somebody out.

26:00 Guest Well, here's the thing too. My life has become like a Oprah Winfrey novel, the book club novel where there are many million depressing things in a millisecond.

26:11 Drew You're getting depressed too. That's the other big thing here.

26:13 Guest Yeah, in the last, I don't know, six months, my dad was remarried to a younger ex-alcoholic and just had a new baby at 52.

26:29 Drew Let's take six. Yeah, you got to...

26:32 Guest And wait, it gets better.

26:33 Adam Turn down the jazz sax, will you?

26:35 Guest Oh, sorry, it's...

26:38 Adam I know, that's the song, Take Six.

26:41 Guest Take Five.

26:43 Adam I thought it was called Take Six.

26:44 I don't know why.

26:45 Take Five.

26:50 Guest I went home for Thanksgiving to find out that my ex-boyfriend had gotten married.

26:55 Drew He's your ex-boyfriend.

26:56 Guest What?

26:57 Drew He's your ex-boyfriend, though.

26:58 Guest Yeah, he's my ex-boyfriend, but only of a few months.

27:02 Adam All right. Listen, life's not going too great right now, right? Okay, but here's the thing. Don't turn against us beautiful people.

27:10 Drew Here's the thing, Rose. 18 to 20, particularly is the time when this kind of stuff really comes home to roost. If you're not negotiating the separation from all that stuff back home fully, it's really going to affect you. You need to separate. You need to establish a life for yourself. What school are you going to school?

27:28 Guest Liberal Arts School in St. Paul.

27:30 Drew St. Thomas?

27:31 Guest No, but it's a tiny school, so I don't know what I want to say.

27:36 Drew One of the University of Minnesota schools?

27:38 Adam Who cares? She doesn't want to say.

27:39 Drew I was just up there and I didn't...

27:40 Guest I know, I heard that, but I hear the show on the delay and I was mad that I missed you. Where were you at?

27:46 Drew St. Cloud.

27:47 Guest Oh, okay.

27:48 Adam Okay, don't be depressed and then go ahead and be depressed, but don't get into all that weird stuff. It's always so pathetic. You know, like when the geeks are talking about, oh, these jacks, oh, he can throw a football 40 yards, and he thinks he's a better, it always makes you look like an idiot.

28:04 Guest No, no, it's not that. It's like I'd rather be, you know, living in an apartment on my own. Go ahead.

28:11 Adam Go ahead.

28:11 Drew But, Rose, I would be very, very careful with it. Go do it.

28:14 Adam Hold on a second. Do it.

28:15 Drew It's okay if she were to do it, but I think you're making a decision out of an attempt to avoid some unpleasant feelings. And honestly, I think it may be a misguided decision at this point in your life. You really need to sit down and think about where you want to go and what's best for you. And if you're not able to really move along that path because you're feeling depressed, then get the depression taken care of. All I hear is you're depressed, you're depressed at a normal time for depression, and you're hung up on a lot of stuff back home that you're not able to separate from. And you know, you're in school, there's services for you there, take advantage of them.

28:44 Adam And I'm with you on that. But listen, drop out, get an apartment, get a job. Go right ahead.

28:50 Drew Leave your options open, though, to return.

28:52 Adam Get a nice, crappy, 40-hour-a-week job and get yourself a nice one bedroom with a junkie roommate. And then you'll see how depressed you are. Exactly. All right.

29:00 Drew Right. So that's the point. Don't run from depression.

29:03 Adam All you people who are bitching in college right now, get a shovel, quit your job and start digging.

29:09 Drew Quit school, you mean?

29:10 Adam Yeah, quit, sorry. Quit school, get a nice, crappy job, and then we'll see how the depression kicks in.

29:18 Drew You really didn't have a shovel. You had like a coffee can you dug with.

29:21 Adam I had a shovel until I had to get in the underpinning when there wasn't enough room for the shovel, and I got the coffee can.

29:27 Drew Nice.

29:28 Adam Then you'll be, you know when the old guy goes, I'll give you something to cry about?

29:33 Drew Yeah.

29:33 Adam That's what that is, life-wise. You'll be depressed and miserable.

29:38 Drew And then you will drive your friends crazy the rest of your life, keep talking about it.

29:41 Adam That's right, that's right. My friends, when I have kids.

29:45 Drew Oh, you're like a concentration camp worker.

29:49 Adam Worse. Or better.

29:52 Drew Simon.

29:52 Yeah.

29:53 Adam You're 16?

29:54 Yeah, I've reached a general consensus with most of my Asian friends that I know. And we basically all agree that Asian parents are almost impossible to deal with.

30:04 Adam Are you Asian?

30:05 Yeah, of course. Oh, good.

30:07 Adam Now, you can say whatever you want about them.

30:09 Drew You're talking about a lot of different cultures, right?

30:12 Mostly Chinese and Korean.

30:15 Drew Chinese and Korean. How are you talking about first and second generations?

30:20 Mostly, I think, it's first generation coming.

30:22 Drew I think any cultural, particularly cultures that have really tight-knit families, let's call it. I would otherwise refer to it as intrusive families. But you come from that kind of culture and you come to this country and you're the first generation of Americans, you've got a problem on your hands. Your parents are going to feel like a pain in the ass because there's such a disconnect between what they expect of you and what the culture is actually creating.

30:47 Adam Well, listen, what was I saying at breakfast today, Drew?

30:49 Drew Same damn thing, weren't you?

30:50 Adam Every culture needs to be thinned out. It needs to be cut. Those Middle Easterners, those Afghanis, they need some white blood over there. We've got to send some white whores over there and start thinning things out a little bit because any culture and too much concentrate doesn't work out. There is no racial bigotry here. It's like a spice eating a spoonful of curry. It's no good. It needs to be spread out with some potato. Same with the Asians. They've got to spread it out. Although I did cite them this morning as one of the cultures. It didn't need quite as much thinning as some of the other cultures. But mostly...

31:28 Drew In fact, you didn't say culture. You were talking about genetics, as I recall.

31:32 Adam Well look at it this way. If you go into Africa, where there's no thinning, it's a mess. You go into Central and South America, where there's no thinning.

31:42 Drew You don't mean thinning, you mean genetic diversity.

31:44 Adam I mean let's get some other colored people in there and start thinning it out.

31:49 Drew Other genetics.

31:49 Adam Start mating.

31:50 Drew Other genetics.

31:52 Adam Thin out the concentrate. Central America, South America, a mess. No thinning. And now, Southern Africa or, yeah, not Southern Africa, East Africa, a mess. The Middle East, disaster. Needs to be thinned out. The Asian cultures need a little white blood in there too. Thin it out. Not because it's better. It's got to be thinned out. It could be like water.

32:16 Drew So Simon, it's I think more a function of the change in culture and they really can't make that adjustment. It really is going to be your kids that are finally able to make that adjustment, I suspect. Because you're not going to let, you're not going to do to your kids what they did to you. Of course not. Well, not of course not. You'll do some of it. You'll be surprised. Oh, no.

32:36 Adam No, but the best, the best looking and the best from an attitudinal standpoint are the mix, the mix. They're just like, just like dogs. The mutts, they live the longest, they're the smartest. They just make the best dogs. The purebreds get weird. They just start, their hips go bad and they become all erotic. The same with people.

32:56 Drew Well, again.

32:57 Adam Look at those Afghanis. There's too much pure blood over there. We got to thin it out.

33:01 Drew You come from a culture.

33:02 Adam We'll get some Asians, we'll bring them over there.

33:04 Drew Where staying, staying connected tightly to a family is what the culture is built on. This is a culture that values individuation and so you got to really work on that.

33:14 Adam Yeah. Thin, thin everybody. Thin it out. And don't get me wrong. I'm not, I'm not saying you need white people. You just need to mix. Everything needs to mix up. Just like that big stew. Monique?

33:28 Caller Yes.

33:29 Adam You're 32?

33:30 Caller I am.

33:30 Adam What's up?

33:32 Caller Um, well, my fiance basically wants, he wants to lick my ass basically. And I read this whole thing about that possibly could spread like a, like disease of some sort.

33:47 Drew Yeah, if you had some, what we call, oral fecally transmitted disease, you had stronteloides or, or, ascaris or like good stuff, yeah, you're going to get that.

33:58 Adam What about just...

33:59 Drew Hepatitis A?

34:01 Adam How about just coming in contact with fecal matter in general?

34:04 Guest Exactly.

34:05 Adam Does it need to be infected fecal matter? Can it just be plain ass?

34:10 Caller I think just plain ass is not enough.

34:13 Drew Well, bad enough.

34:13 Adam But how about dangerous?

34:15 Drew Well, Monique is so into this, first of all.

34:17 Like my butt.

34:18 No, no, no, no.

34:19 Adam Well, let me... hold on. Let me ask Drew this. If you get hold of some fecal matter in your mouth from somebody else that is... that this person does not have hepatitis or spongelitis or anything, say cephospongelitis, is there a danger there?

34:38 Drew It's an interesting question because there is danger. The bacteria that normally populate that region can cause urine infections, skin infections.

34:47 Adam It would seem like you could find trouble even if there wasn't a problem with the person.

34:51 Drew It's not a sterile environment by any means. And nor though is the mouth, you see. And so, you know, it's not as though it's a typical way to get some serious stuff, some very serious ass going, as you might say.

35:03 Adam Yeah. So, he wants to shoot you that pink dart back there.

35:10 Caller You know, I had to say that usually my fiance is all about, Adam, Adam, Adam. And I'm all like, I like Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew Loveline. Adam, I'm kind of like, well, I mean, both of you are on. I need, like, right now I'm like thinking, how can anything on my ass be okay to be near his mouth?

35:28 Drew Well, I, I, you know.

35:28 What's my butt?

35:30 Drew I'm not saying it's, listen.

35:31 Caller Sorry, my butt.

35:32 Drew My, my most significant sort of feeling on this is that you don't want him to, and so that's that. Just tell him no. Or you don't want to use, he wants you to do it to him. Is he worse? Like, you don't, forget it. No, you don't have to do it.

35:45 Caller You know what, though? I'm, we're pretty open-minded. I'm pretty open-minded, I think.

35:49 Drew Yeah, that's fine. You thought about it. That's it. You decided it wasn't what you wanted to do.

35:53 Adam Hey, I'm an atheist. I don't want to lick any hole.

35:57 Caller Well, I'm more, but honest to God, I'm more concerned about, like, I really, you know, like, if he wants to go and do that, that's fine.

36:05 Drew What? What do you mean?

36:06 Guest If he wants to lick my butt.

36:08 Oh, I see.

36:09 Caller But honest to God, I'm concerned that, like, you know, I know what it takes to get a health card, and I know, you know, that there's a lot of health concerns, and really, if he's going to get some sort of bad something.

36:22 Drew No, I'm telling you, Monique, unless you have something to transmit.

36:25 Caller Then it's okay?

36:26 Drew It's not the healthiest thing you can do.

36:28 Adam Yeah, well, let him roll the dice. Let him do it. Shut it.

36:32 Drew Wait, no, but he specifically wants her to do it to him.

36:36 Caller Well, yeah.

36:37 Adam Oh, I thought it was just her.

36:39 Drew No, no.

36:39 Caller No, it's like he wants to to me, but then he also wants me to do it to him. I told him, I said, you know, my biggest concern is that I plan on marrying you, spending my life with you. I don't want you to lick my ass and then die. Lick my butt.

36:53 Adam Yeah, what would you tell us about it?

36:54 Drew Monique, if this were a real comedy, I mean, people get us some weird stuff these days and there's not typically much happening as a result. You hear more about it, especially on this show. We have yet to talk about one fatality, right?

37:08 Adam I think, you know, like they make when a guy dies of AIDS, they say liver failure, cancer or something. I think they might do the same thing if someone actually died from eating someone's ass.

37:19 Drew Not on this show. Eating someone's ass.

37:22 Adam Okay, so here's the point. What's the point?

37:25 Drew I lost it. Just don't do what you don't want to do.

37:27 Adam If you want to do it, do it. And if you don't want to do it, don't do it.

37:31 Drew Hey, maybe put a latex sheet down there if you want. But he's hell bent on it and she doesn't want to do it.

37:37 Adam But no, she was calling, praying for a medical reason not to do it and you gave her none.

37:44 Drew Because again, it's a way to get HIV. It's a way to get all kinds of good stuff.

37:48 Adam But this guy doesn't have that. She doesn't have it. So there's no good medical reason for not doing it. But lines that Drew said, you could get hepatitis. Hepatitis R, by the way, invented a new hepatitis. And that way, it's not really like he could research it and they'd never find it. Now we're going to take a break. When we come back, do you want to talk to Josh? What about these two felons in love? Uh, two felons are in love. That's all I got. We'll talk to Sandy about that after this.

38:29 Drew Oh, here we are.

38:33 Adam All right. Ready to take some calls here, Drew?

38:37 Drew Yeah, after you sing.

39:09 Guest We're over seven months now. And we live together.

39:12 Drew I'm not going to have to check it out. Last second, Sandy, hold on.

39:14 Adam No, I'm going to. I'm very concerned.

39:17 Drew You were living with your boyfriend for how long?

39:19 Guest For five months. And I just moved out yesterday.

39:23 Drew How old is he?

39:24 Guest He's 29.

39:25 Drew 29, all right.

39:26 Guest And I was just wondering how they keep the relationship working and us not falling apart, because neither of us have a job and neither of us have a car.

39:34 Drew Why did you leave the nest?

39:37 Guest Because I got an eviction notice and I moved in with my mom because she's across the street from the bus line.

39:43 Drew Where is he?

39:44 Guest He's about 15 minutes away. He's still at the apartment. He has nowhere to go and my parents won't let him move out.

39:50 Drew Well, why did you move out and not him?

39:53 Guest Because it was my... because my parents wanted me to...

39:57 Drew No, no, no. Listen. If everyone had to leave the apartment, why is he still there?

40:04 Guest Because he has nowhere to go.

40:06 Drew Yeah, but why didn't you kind of stay with him?

40:09 Guest Oh, well, because he wanted me to move back in too, but I'm worried about him.

40:16 Drew Hang on a second. You want to react to that one?

40:18 Adam No, no, I'm tired.

40:19 Drew You didn't stay with him because he wanted you to move back in, you wanted to move back in, you wanted to stay with him.

40:25 Guest Yeah, I didn't want to move back in with my parents, but I had no choice, but he's over there.

40:31 Drew Listen, Sandy, you are not following my questioning at all.

40:34 Guest Okay.

40:35 Adam I'm this close to gambling on you.

40:36 Drew No, you can go right ahead. He's still there. So somebody was able to continue to stay in that apartment.

40:44 Guest Yeah, but we haven't gone to court yet for the eviction notice, so once we get to court, which is on the 12th, we'll have 30 days.

40:51 Drew Why didn't you stay with...

40:52 Guest He had no phone, no electricity, no food, nothing. He used to have by himself.

40:57 Drew And why did you kind of hang with him? Why didn't you support him? Why didn't you... I'm not saying you should have. I'm just curious. He's hanging. Why didn't you stay? It was too miserable? Was it just because no food?

41:08 Guest No, I loved being with him.

41:09 Drew I mean, he's been away from me.

41:12 Guest Well, because I'm on probation too, and if I don't have a job or anything, I'm going to probably have to go do some time.

41:19 Drew So if they found out you had an eviction and weren't working, isn't he going to get in trouble too?

41:26 Guest He's done with his probation. He just got...

41:28 Drew So you had to leave because you was a lot at jeopardy for you.

41:32 Guest Yeah, but I'm worried about him because his family...

41:35 Drew But Sandy, you got to understand, we don't know all that history. You didn't give us that. So it just seemed curious. I was wondering how you felt about him, that you sort of left him. He managed to stay, but you kind of took on... Yeah, I get it. You had to because you had a real serious thing lying in the balance here. You'd go to jail.

41:49 Adam What are you on probation for?

41:51 Guest A burglary charge I got.

41:53 Drew You're a drug addict?

41:55 Guest Well, yeah, I helped my ex-boyfriend break into a pharmacy and steal some pills and stuff.

42:02 Drew Were you doing the drugs too?

42:04 Guest No, but I was drinking real bad at the time, no. I've been through a recovery in the halfway house and everything like that.

42:10 Adam What was this guy on probation for?

42:13 Guest There was an animal clinic. He broke into an animal clinic for the pain pills.

42:19 Adam This current boyfriend?

42:21 Guest Yeah, this current boyfriend.

42:23 Adam Wow, you got one boyfriend who broke into a pharmacy for pills and the other one who broke into an animal clinic for pills?

42:29 Guest Yeah.

42:29 Drew It's amazing how people find the same person over and over, isn't it?

42:32 Guest Yeah, but he's nothing like the other guy.

42:34 Drew Oh, nothing.

42:35 Adam I can tell.

42:36 Drew His behavior is completely different.

42:39 Adam Okay, so.

42:40 Guest But, and then I'm trying to get my parents to agree on them taking me over there one night a week and just having me spend the night until I get a job or until he finds out what he's doing. I'm trying to get him into a shelter through Department of Human Services.

42:54 Drew Why don't you just get him into a shelter? Focus on that and don't worry about spending any time over there. It's too big a risk for you.

42:59 Adam Why don't you get your parents to get you over there?

43:02 Guest Because I don't have a car. You. And I don't have no money. I can't walk because it's like 15 minutes away.

43:09 Adam Hold on a second.

43:10 Drew 15 minute walk? Are you disabled or something?

43:13 Guest No, but.

43:15 Drew What can you walk for? 15 minutes?

43:18 Guest It's probably about 15 minutes by car, actually.

43:20 Drew Oh, by car.

43:25 Guest And I just don't know how to keep the relationship.

43:28 Adam Well, Sandy, hold on a second. You can't take a bus? You don't have any friends who could give you a lift over there?

43:34 Guest Well, I kind of had a situation where I kind of lost all my friends because of my drinking and my decisions I had made and everything like that.

43:45 Drew Okay.

43:49 Adam I don't know. I'm going to just shake Sandy like an itch of skin. First off, okay, baby, look, you're sober now. I worry a little about this guy. I worry that he's not real good for you. He's a 29-year-old guy who's living without power, food, phone, and water in a place that he's supposed to be evicted from. You're looking for a shelter for this guy. Can't this guy get a job?

44:21 Guest We haven't been able to. We've been trying to, but I actually got in a car accident. I wrecked my car.

44:27 They gave me a rental car.

44:28 Guest The rental people came and took that car from me.

44:31 Drew Because you weren't paying for it?

44:33 Guest No, because I ran out of insurance.

44:35 Adam And weren't paying for it.

44:36 Drew Weren't paying for the insurance? Yeah, I could.

44:38 Adam Listen, I'm going to ask again. Can't this guy get a job? You gave me a story about a rental car.

44:45 Guest Well, he has a hard time finding a job because of his theft.

44:49 Drew His theft?

44:49 Guest Yeah, he can't even work at a gas station.

44:52 Adam Okay. I thought they only hired ex-felons.

44:55 Guest No, they didn't.

44:55 Adam In California, that's the way it works.

44:57 Drew Will his parole people help him with that?

44:59 Guest They don't do home buts or nothing because I've been trying to talk to my PO to get thousands and thousands and he doesn't tell him to.

45:06 Adam Okay, listen. Sandy, here's the number one priority. Don't get pregnant.

45:10 Guest Okay.

45:10 Adam Are you pregnant now?

45:11 Guest I don't think so. I don't know.

45:13 Drew Please. You might.

45:14 Adam Are you using protection?

45:16 Guest No.

45:17 Adam What's up? Are you retarded? What's wrong with you? What's wrong? What's wrong with you? Well, why aren't you using protection?

45:26 Drew You can't afford condoms.

45:27 Adam Yeah.

45:28 Guest I can't afford birth control pills.

45:30 Drew Well, you can go to Planned Parenthood and pick some up.

45:32 Guest That costs $30.

45:33 Adam Listen. No.

45:34 Drew There's kind of big trays out in the front there.

45:36 Adam Hey, listen, screwball. You're 21. I'm sorry for what happened to you growing up, but do not get pregnant. That's number one priority. Take control of your life. Would you please? I'm trying to.

45:48 Drew Okay.

45:49 Adam Don't get pregnant.

45:50 Drew Let me wrap this up. Sandy, I agree not getting pregnant is priority one, so you've got to take measures to make sure that does not happen. Number two, second priority is getting your boyfriend into a shelter. You are in a structured environment. You are cared for. That's good. Don't disrupt that. Don't sacrifice yourself on behalf of this guy. Get him into a shelter. If you really want to take this a little further, start going to meetings, get yourself a sponsor, and some of the people in recovery may be able to actually even transport you and help you get your friend into a structured environment. But do not go back there. Do not let this fall apart. It will unravel if you start going back.

46:27 Adam Okay. Good enough. Don't get pregnant. Please. And what are we doing? What are these parole officers doing? They should have given her a Knorr plant the second she left the clink. Are you kidding me? Okay. Why don't we come back and speak to Jessica. She was sucking on her boyfriend's nipples and stuff came out. Yeah, after this. Hey, everyone, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Patricia Arquette in here tomorrow night. Bad Religion later this week, 3-11 later this week. Early next week, Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Kittes are going to be in here. And some of the cast of Not Another Teen Movie will be in here too.

47:27 Drew David Presley and Ron.

47:29 Adam Ron Lester, big boy.

47:30 Drew So what's his name in Varsity Blues? Everyone knows him by that character.

47:38 Adam Oh, it's always like Billy Bob.

47:39 Drew Billy Bob, yeah, Billy Joe or Billy Bob.

47:41 Adam They always do very creative naming. Big fat lineman guy.

47:45 Drew What was it?

47:46 Adam Billy Joe, Billy Bob.

47:48 Drew No, no, it's Billy something. Billy Joe or Billy.

47:50 Adam Oh, it's Billy Bob. Hey, Jessica.

47:53 Guest Hey.

47:54 Adam Hey, you're 18?

47:55 Guest Yeah, I'm 18.

47:56 Adam What's up?

47:57 Guest Well, I was visiting my boyfriend in San Francisco. We're different colleges. And my boyfriend likes to have his nipples like sucked and like nibbled a little bit.

48:09 Adam I like a little nipple play myself.

48:11 Yeah, everyone does.

48:12 Drew Everyone does.

48:14 Adam You know, I have very sensitive nipples.

48:19 Guest So anyway, I do it pretty regularly. And it's always like there's never been a problem. And I was just kind of like down there, I kind of like his nipple was between my teeth. And something came out of it. And I mean, in retrospect, I like I don't know if it was milk or anything. I was kind of shocked, you know, and it wasn't blood. It could have been like pus or something, but kind of squirted. So I mean, we were kind of freaked out. And now he like, he's like thinks that he's lactating.

48:50 Drew Well that might be what he's doing. Is that is he on a medication?

48:54 Guest I don't think so.

48:55 Adam Now squirted into your mouth.

48:57 Guest What?

48:57 Adam In your mouth is squirted?

48:59 Guest Yeah, it's right into my mouth.

49:00 Adam Sweet.

49:01 Drew What did you do with it?

49:03 Guest I just kind of swallowed it. I kind of panicked. And I like kind of like was able to put together in my head.

49:10 Adam Nice.

49:11 Guest Yeah.

49:13 Adam All right. So Drew, what could this be?

49:15 Drew Well, sometimes thyroid problems can do this. Sometimes medication can do this. Sometimes, though, pituitary tumors and that sort of thing can do it. And sometimes nothing. But it is something that needs to be evaluated. And so he needs to see a doctor and just get some basic blood tests done to see if there's anything that sort of jumps out.

49:31 Guest Could it be milk? Like, because I suck them pretty regularly.

49:34 Drew Yeah. And just the irritation of you yanking on them can do it too.

49:37 Adam Stimulation, Drew, not irritation.

49:39 Drew Yeah.

49:40 Adam Well, he should go, what, see, just...

49:43 Drew Regular doctor, go to student health services and let him check it out. It may or may not be something, but it is definitely something worth checking out.

49:49 Guest But can guys lactate at all?

49:51 Adam Say, Jessica...

49:51 Drew Jessica, why don't I just go through a whole explanation about it?

49:54 Adam Would you get off the milk thing for ten seconds?

49:57 Guest I'm sorry.

49:57 Adam I know you decided a while ago that it was milk.

50:00 Drew Well, it's probably what it is. It's probably what it is, and it's, again, thyroid, medication...

50:05 Guest Makes sense...

50:06 Drew .irritation. These are all things that are pituitary tumors. Something needs to be checked out, or nothing. So get it checked out, all right?

50:13 Adam Even if it is milk, it still needs to be checked out.

50:17 Guest I see.

50:18 Adam All right, baby.

50:18 Guest I appreciate it, guys.

50:19 Adam Good times. And that stuff coming out of his penis, that's not milk, you know. Yeah.

50:23 Guest I was wondering about that, too. Okay. Thanks a lot.

50:27 Drew What do you do with that when it comes out?

50:30 Guest I usually swallow.

50:31 Adam Oh, man. I'll tell you. You'll take anything.

50:35 Guest Pretty much, yeah.

50:36 Adam Yeah. It's just like a toxic landfill. I like that. Just dump all our crap in Jessica. God bless her. 18 and ingesting everything. Vanessa?

50:48 Yeah.

50:49 Adam You're 23?

50:50 Caller Yeah. I had a breast reduction when I was 13.

50:53 Drew 13?

50:55 Caller Yeah. I told my mom that I was getting made fun of at school because I blew faster than anybody else did. I told her that I was going to kill myself if I didn't get a breast reduction. I had been through a whole year of just going through stuff at school and being made fun of.

51:15 Drew Wow.

51:15 Caller So they finally did get me one. It was way too young because you scar worse.

51:20 Drew Well, why do they say that? Because it pulls apart a little bit?

51:23 Caller They say because you have more or less than in your skin or something like that.

51:26 Drew Oh, that's interesting.

51:28 Caller But you know how they go around, like where the breast connects to the body.

51:32 Adam How big were you?

51:34 Caller Triple D.

51:35 Adam When you were 13?

51:36 Caller Yeah, and they grew after that because they made them perfectly matching and then they grew a little bit after that. So one's a little bit bigger than the other one.

51:45 Adam How big's the rest of you?

51:47 Caller About 130.

51:49 Drew How tall?

51:52 Caller 5'2, 5'3. Yeah, I can stand a least couple pounds.

51:56 Adam I can spank to that though.

51:58 Caller See, they told me that it was all tissue. When I got my breast reduction, I was tiny and I've gained a little weight since then.

52:06 Adam So only you were like a tiny person with a triple E?

52:10 Guest Triple D.

52:11 Adam Triple D?

52:12 Guest Yeah.

52:13 Caller But they said that it was all tissue.

52:16 Adam I was thinking of tissue, Drew, to get some of that myself.

52:18 Caller It wasn't fat. It wouldn't have come off if I would have lost anyway.

52:21 Drew Right, right. Of course.

52:22 Adam Okay.

52:23 Drew Yeah, so it sounds like it was a good choice for you. Were you okay after they had done that?

52:29 Caller The breast reduction?

52:29 Drew Yeah.

52:30 Caller Well, I was better after that, but now I really wish I hadn't have done it or I wish I would have waited because the scars are so big.

52:38 Adam What did they bring you down to?

52:41 Caller They brought me down to a C and now I'm like a small D.

52:46 Drew And you're worried about the scars?

52:48 Caller Right, because the one that goes up to the nipple.

52:51 Drew It's called inverted T. It's an upside down T.

52:55 Caller Oh, right, right.

52:56 Drew It's kind of a smiley mouth.

52:57 Adam The inverted T? That's the offense we used to run in high school.

53:01 Caller It's real wide.

53:02 Drew The scars are wide.

53:03 Caller It's like half the length of my index finger. The other ones are kind of puffy like a keloid.

53:09 Drew Yeah. You want to get them redone?

53:10 Caller Yeah.

53:11 All right.

53:12 Adam You want to get the scars redone, you say?

53:13 Yeah.

53:14 Caller Right. Is there any way that can make them go away?

53:16 Drew Not make them go away, but they might be able to, yeah.

53:19 Adam Okay.

53:20 Drew That's a possibility.

53:21 Adam How's your skin color?

53:23 Caller It's white. Are you white? Yeah.

53:25 Drew So they're not very dark or anything, these scars?

53:27 Caller No, no, no.

53:28 Adam All right.

53:29 Caller No, but I heard Dr. Drew or somebody on there say one day that white people can keloid, and that's how I found that out, because they did get a little puffy.

53:36 Drew Well, black people tend to keloid even more. Yeah, anybody can keloid, sure.

53:41 Yeah, I thought it was only black people.

53:43 Adam Oh, no, it's usually only black people that keloid, but everyone can. Black folks tend to do it more.

53:49 Drew Yeah.

53:50 Yeah.

53:50 Adam Is that just black, Afro-black, or is that real? Like what if you're real dark-skinned Cuban?

53:57 Drew I don't know the answer to that.

53:58 Adam I'd say no. I think no.

54:00 Drew I don't know why. Certainly, in the dark skin, you get pigment in the scars. They can be more pronounced, but I know for sure the African Americans are the ones that get their keloid.

54:07 Adam Right, more than, let's say, some Polynesian guy.

54:10 Drew It was really dark.

54:11 Caller Can you leave me on hold so I can listen to the show?

54:15 Adam Oh, you can listen to it through the radio.

54:17 Caller Okay, I was just wondering.

54:18 Drew You can't hear it through the radio?

54:19 Caller Well, it'll come on till tomorrow night. That's what I was wondering.

54:22 Adam Oh, okay. Yeah, we'll put you on hold.

54:24 Caller All right, thank you.

54:25 Adam You're not going to like it.

54:28 Drew All right, so... Listen to what young males do to young women, right? At 13, you have to kill yourself just because she gets a breast development.

54:36 Adam I guess there may have been other issues flowing around the house. Yeah. Well, listen, at 13, when you're triple D and you're a petite person...

54:46 Drew Oh, my God.

54:47 Adam Boys will be boys. And that is going to be a tough road to hoe. And okay, so now she got the scars, so now go back to a plastic surgeon and just get a consultation on removing some of those scars.

55:03 Drew Yep. All right.

55:04 Adam All right. Josh?

55:07 Caller Yeah.

55:07 Adam I'll tell you, though, that not nearly as deep as the scars of her 13-year-old boyfriend at the time that had to part with those huge gants, those scars will never heal true. Josh?

55:18 Caller Yeah.

55:19 Adam You're 13?

55:19 Caller Yes, I am.

55:20 Adam What's up?

55:22 Caller Well, you see, when I masturbate, I get like rashes, bumps.

55:26 Drew Bumps?

55:27 Caller Bumps.

55:27 Caller Where?

55:28 Caller Like on my penis.

55:33 Drew Bumps?

55:34 Caller Yeah, like cuts.

55:36 Caller Cuts?

55:37 Drew How are bumps and cuts the same thing?

55:40 Caller Well, the bumps that are cuts, I mean, I can't really explain it. It really hurts, though.

55:47 Adam Are you using any kind of lube?

55:49 Caller No.

55:50 Drew How often do you get these things?

55:52 Caller Almost every time.

55:53 Drew Which is how often?

55:55 Caller Like two or three times a day.

55:57 Adam You're doing a dry run?

55:59 Caller Yeah.

55:59 Adam You're wearing some kind of decoder ring or something that could irritate it?

56:03 Drew Wait a minute. You're developing cuts two to three times a day?

56:07 Caller Uh-huh.

56:07 Adam I think this is bogus.

56:08 Drew Your penis be covered. How does it ever heal?

56:12 Caller Well, I mean that, like, it happens often, but like not every time. They go away pretty fast.

56:24 Drew I think you're just irritating your skin. You're just two or three times a day, maybe a little much for you, and you're getting some sort of a dermatitis and it's opening up.

56:30 Adam I think he's got to break through and go six, seven times a day and get through that wall.

56:35 Drew Get some callus going?

56:37 Adam Yeah. Yeah, 13. How long does each session last?

56:44 Caller Couple minutes.

56:45 Adam All right, efficient. What are you looking at? You got a movie or a computer or something?

56:51 Caller A picture, like magazine.

56:53 Adam Nice, nice. All right, what do you say? Give it a couple of days off, see what happens?

56:57 Drew I'm worried he's sexual compulsive because if he is doing it so much, he's hurting himself and that's where compulsivity becomes part of the deal.

57:04 Adam He's 13, he's going twice a day. Josh?

57:07 Caller Yeah.

57:07 Adam You think you're all compulsive about this whole thing?

57:10 Caller I hope not.

57:11 Drew Is there addiction in your family?

57:13 Caller No.

57:13 Drew Were you sexually abused when you were a kid?

57:16 Caller Not to my knowledge. I could have been, but I doubt it.

57:20 Adam What do you think? What do you mean you could have been?

57:21 Drew Yeah, that's a pretty big answer.

57:25 Adam Do you really, do you, was there any part of you that thinks maybe you were?

57:30 Caller Um, I don't think so. I could have had dreams about it, but that's all.

57:36 Drew Who was it in your dreams?

57:37 Caller My dad.

57:39 Adam What does your dad do? Does he drive a truck?

57:41 Caller No.

57:42 Adam Swing a hammer?

57:44 Caller No, he works in an office somewhere.

57:46 Adam Attorney?

57:47 Caller No.

57:47 Drew Does he drink a lot? Does he drink a lot?

57:51 Caller Occasionally.

57:54 Drew I mean, that guy, your parents drink, sometimes they do stuff that they wouldn't otherwise do, and then you inherit that gene, and that can put a little energy behind the sexual activity.

58:04 Adam Hey, Josh? Here's my, I'm going to give, I'm going to give a five-day plan for you and your penis, all right?

58:11 Caller All righty.

58:12 Adam When's the last time you beat off?

58:15 Caller Um, a couple of hours ago.

58:16 Adam Fantastic.

58:17 Caller I was waiting on the phone.

58:18 Adam Same here.

58:19 Drew Oh, while you were waiting on the phone?

58:20 Caller Yeah. Gotta keep, gotta stay awake.

58:23 Adam Yeah, that's right. Use it or lose it.

58:26 Drew I think that's a first.

58:28 Adam No, I, we must have had people spank it while they were at home.

58:31 Drew It's really not to tell us about it.

58:33 Adam Well, the guy was on hold for 99 minutes.

58:38 Drew 99 minutes and 20 seconds. We had a guy master beating on air once. Oh, really? I can't, why can't I remember that?

58:44 Stacey Valentine was our guest that night.

58:46 Adam Yeah.

58:46 Drew And Adam wasn't here and the guy was like breathing heavy. He was flying over and over.

58:50 Adam Hey, Josh?

58:51 Caller Yeah.

58:51 Adam I'd like to see you go three days without beating off.

58:55 Caller Oh, we are?

58:55 Drew All right. I know. Give your penis skin a chance to heal.

58:58 Adam See if you can do it and then after the third day, like on Wednesday or Thursday when it's time to go again, call us if there's a difficulty.

59:08 Drew With the skin? Yeah.

59:10 Adam Right. That's what I'm saying.

59:12 Drew Maybe we can call him. Tara, maybe we can follow up with this guy. Three or four days?

59:16 Adam Yeah.

59:17 Drew Three or four days, right?

59:18 Adam All right.

59:20 Mark? Yeah.

59:22 Adam You're 14?

59:23 Drew Yeah.

59:23 Adam What's up?

59:24 Yeah. I had sex with my girlfriend for the first time yesterday. And when I masturbated today, there was some redness, probably blood in my semen. Yeah.

59:41 Drew I'm just thinking it probably has nothing to do with you having had sex yesterday. Why not? Unless you were particularly vigorous or something happened.

59:49 Not at all?

59:50 Drew Not at all?

59:51 Well, I think the girl, like the girl I had sex with, had it in her head or anything like that.

59:56 Adam What do you think, Drew?

59:58 Drew Blood in the semen is not a sign of a sexually transmitted disease. Not absent to other symptoms. It's just not.

1:00:05 Adam What is it a sign of?

1:00:06 Drew It's usually a bloated vessel in the system there that brings the semen up front. And it's something that needs to be looked into, Mark, it really does, but it's not, it's very, very infrequently doesn't actually amount to anything.

1:00:18 Adam All right, let me ask this. Should he sit with it for a little while, see how it goes, see what goes away?

1:00:25 Drew No, he should see someone right away, but it's not likely to be anything.

1:00:28 Adam What if he beats off tomorrow and it's nothing?

1:00:31 Drew It's one of these things that when you see blood in something, you have to get it checked out, basically.

1:00:35 Adam I had blood in my urine, no one told me to do it.

1:00:38 Drew When?

1:00:39 Adam Years ago.

1:00:41 Drew They should have. Oh, really?

1:00:44 Adam I didn't have insurance, so they told me not to worry about it. When you don't have insurance, they tell you not to worry about it. They said it was like you had probably punched in the kidney or liver or from bouncing up and down too much.

1:00:58 Drew There is such a thing, but it's pretty rare. I think they would conclude that it's just bizarre.

1:01:04 Adam Well, like I said, I was teaching boxing and I didn't have insurance, so they just said...

1:01:09 Drew Had you taken a body shot or something?

1:01:10 Adam Probably. I'm sure at some point. It was... It was... Coffee told us. Dr. Coffee told me to do that.

1:01:21 Drew Yeah.

1:01:21 Adam Well, she didn't want to deal with me, I think.

1:01:23 Drew She's a player.

1:01:24 Adam She's the same one. When I showed her the giant ganglion cyst I had in my palm, she said that I hid it with a Bible. I said, I'm an atheist. She said, I hid it with the dictionary. Hey, yes, Steve? Hey. Hey, hold on a second. You know how I finally did pop that big cyst that was in my palm?

1:01:45 Drew I put a big needle in it. I just found it.

1:01:46 Adam Well, you put a big needle in it, but you know how I popped it two years before that?

1:01:49 Drew Boxing.

1:01:50 Adam No. Playing basketball against some midgets. Full court, got on a fast break, had an easy layup, god damn midget pushed me in the back. Mate, anyone who plays basketball with midgets, they cheat. Guy pushed me right in the back. I was running full speed down the court, you know, just getting to lay it up, and the guy just flagrantly fouled me, and I went flying into the wall behind the thing and slapped my palm against it.

1:02:15 Drew Did it hurt when I broke?

1:02:16 Adam Oh yeah. Yeah. Good news, I would say it came right back.

1:02:20 Drew Of course.

1:02:20 Adam A day later.

1:02:21 Drew Of course. A day later?

1:02:23 Adam It didn't take long to reform. No, it wasn't a couple weeks. Wow. I mean, it started right on back. It was sore as hell. Steve? Sorry, buddy. I had to tell a midget story.

1:02:35 Caller Hello?

1:02:36 Adam Yeah. Hello, buddy.

1:02:37 Caller Oh, hey.

1:02:38 Adam Hey, buddy.

1:02:39 Caller Hey, you know, I really have a lot of respect for you guys. I'm serious. I love you. I've been listening for about six years or so.

1:02:47 Drew Six years since you were eight?

1:02:49 Caller Yeah.

1:02:49 Drew Wow.

1:02:50 Caller I basically almost had my life here, so. I really want to thank you because I went through a real so subtle time about a year and a half ago.

1:02:57 Caller How come?

1:02:59 Caller I was really, really depressed. Just the whole family matter and all those different things.

1:03:03 Drew What was happening?

1:03:05 Caller My dad was like, you know, I mean, he was a little physical abusive, but not to the extent of, you know, a lot of stories here, but, you know, it was enough for me to really notice.

1:03:16 Adam Did this show help you at all when you were that way?

1:03:18 Caller Oh, yeah, definitely. How? You guys, I mean, the whole pushing with the therapy, and just so many things like that, I mean.

1:03:27 Adam Oh, me telling the fart jokes and stuff, huh? There you go. Thank you.

1:03:30 Caller Love The Men Show.

1:03:31 Adam Thank you. So what's up?

1:03:34 Caller You know, I realized I was gay about a year or so ago, and I didn't take it really badly, you know, like really confused and all that stuff, but I'm really wondering where I can find out, around Chicago area, where I can find out, you know, where to find places to meet other people and stuff.

1:03:50 Drew I would start with the Gay and Lesbian Youth Center. They're usually a big city like Chicago, have probably several of them.

1:03:55 Adam There's a bar outside Chicago called the Mail Sack.

1:03:58 Drew Yeah, you need to go somewhere where there are people that are sort of real supportive and available to you. You don't want to go somewhere just to hook up.

1:04:05 Adam Yeah, that's what I mean.

1:04:07 Drew You want a peer group.

1:04:08 Adam M-A-L-E, it's not, you know, like, it's different mail.

1:04:12 Drew Mail slot?

1:04:13 Adam Mail sack.

1:04:14 Drew Mail sack, I see.

1:04:17 Adam Yeah.

1:04:17 Caller Would you know any places by any chance, like a place I could find out where?

1:04:21 Drew Well, do we have the, can we have that book down there? The numbers are down at the bottom here. Let's see if we have anything in our references. I don't think we do, but look down here.

1:04:29 Adam Down here?

1:04:30 Drew Yeah.

1:04:30 Adam My hand on it?

1:04:31 Drew Yeah.

1:04:32 Adam Oh, Jesus, Steve, you know, you're making me move laterally. You know how difficult that can be for me. See, you sound, and Drew, I, Drew, you'll agree with this just by nodding your head, but he sounds like a very mature 14 year old.

1:04:45 Drew Oh yeah.

1:04:45 Adam Someone who's worked through a few problems and done a little therapy.

1:04:49 Drew And also sort of done, you know, at ease with his whole, yeah.

1:04:55 Adam Yeah. You're going to be, you're going to turn out fine, Steve. I don't have any worries about you.

1:05:00 Drew I have a teen hotline. You can start with that. It's 312-491-2400. Okay.

1:05:10 Adam And what do you get out of that?

1:05:11 Drew It's a teen hot, I'm sorry.

1:05:15 Adam Don't, is that for, like, hotline, is that hotteen talk?

1:05:19 Drew No, it should be just resources.

1:05:21 Adam Don't we have any young gay phone numbers?

1:05:24 Drew Well, here's a, this thing called Horizons, and it says gay and lesbian.

1:05:27 Caller Yeah, I heard my therapist told me about that.

1:05:29 Drew All right, it's 773-929-4357. Now, we have not specifically checked all these places out, so be very cautious. These are coming to us referred, we haven't specifically checked them out.

1:05:44 Adam I call them Horizons.

1:05:45 Drew Yeah.

1:05:46 Adam How am I checking to that myself?

1:05:48 Drew What is this?

1:05:49 Adam All right, that's enough, Drew. Is that a national number you gave them?

1:05:52 Drew No, local, Chicago.

1:05:54 Adam Oh, really?

1:05:54 Drew Yeah.

1:05:55 Adam Wow. We really cater to our college. Sandy? Yes? You're 22?

1:06:02 Caller Yes.

1:06:03 Adam What's up?

1:06:04 Caller Well, I was raised about a year ago, and I found out about six weeks after that, I started to get some, like, bumps, and I thought I had HPV, but I went to the doctor and they said that I had the molluscum contagiosum.

1:06:19 Adam Who raped you?

1:06:21 Caller My best friend's fiance.

1:06:24 Drew How that story plays out, she didn't believe it, they blamed you.

1:06:28 Caller No, she believed it. He admitted it.

1:06:30 Drew My God.

1:06:31 Adam I got good points for that.

1:06:33 Caller We were all drinking and I passed out, and he raped me while I was passed out.

1:06:38 Adam Where was she?

1:06:39 Caller In their bedroom, and I was in the living room.

1:06:42 Adam He came out to the sofa kind of thing?

1:06:44 Caller Yeah.

1:06:45 Adam Oh boy, wait a minute.

1:06:46 Drew Let's keep this going after the break.

1:06:47 Adam I got more questions.

1:06:48 Drew I know I got a bunch to say about this too. So let's...

1:06:51 Adam You want to take a break now?

1:06:51 Drew Yeah, let's do it after, because I got a bunch to say about this.

1:06:54 Adam Okay. What did you do, get paged?

1:06:56 Drew No, no, I got...

1:06:57 Adam You got stuff to say?

1:06:58 Drew Yeah.

1:06:58 Adam All right, Sandy. Okay.

1:07:00 Drew Hang on, hold on.

1:07:01 Adam Take a break. Sandy was raped by her best friend's fiance. When she passed out on the sofa, she thinks she may have a venereal disease, or does have a venereal disease, but not a real good one. The molluscum contagion is not too bad.

1:07:16 Drew Never heard of it.

1:07:17 Adam And we'll take that after this. Howdy, y'all. I'm Adam, sometimes affectionately known by Ace. Oh, yes. And Dr. Drew over there, out on the road in Tucson this week, got some positive feedback on Ace Rockolla.

1:07:42 Drew Oh, my God, I'm very scared of him.

1:07:44 Adam Well, I actually had two guys tell me they liked him.

1:07:46 Drew A couple women did, too, remember?

1:07:48 Adam Yeah. And what did I say to them?

1:07:50 Drew Great radio.

1:07:51 Adam No, that's not what I said.

1:07:52 Drew What did you say?

1:07:53 Adam I said, that's all I need. All I need is one person telling me it was good and that dude just bought another three years of it. No, I'm too tired of it.

1:08:06 Drew And when somebody comes and says it's bad, you're like, I don't hear it. I don't care. I don't care.

1:08:10 Adam Oh, how dare you. I never say that.

1:08:13 Drew Do I? Do you have that on tape? And I don't care?

1:08:15 Adam Okay. Kiss my ass, you idiot. It's Loveline. We were, Patricia Arquette coming in here tomorrow night. And when we left off, we were, are you still married to Nick Cage? No. Shocking. They will ask her about that. They were together for a while. Good eight or ten years. I don't trust that Nick Cage because he's a passionate man.

1:08:42 Drew Oh, really?

1:08:43 Adam You know how I feel about those guys.

1:08:45 Drew He's bisexual. And I worked out with a trainer to get the look of each of his characters. I mean, the one that's always saying stuff like that. It drives you crazy.

1:08:54 Adam Yeah. He's getting into his role. Like Gone in 60 Seconds where he's got 24 hours to steal 51 of the most exotic cars. Three of them prototypes have not been made yet. We need to get a hovercraft, an amphibious craft, a Bradley fighting vehicle. We need a 69 Lamborghini Miura. We need it. Yeah. I'll get them all. You know why? Why did we come to you?

1:09:24 Drew Because you're the best. You're the best. You play by your own rules.

1:09:28 Adam Yeah, but you're the best.

1:09:28 Drew You were framed once.

1:09:30 Adam You're the best. Let me just float one quick question.

1:09:34 Drew Maybe they start with, I like you, man. Come see me. I've got a job for you to do.

1:09:39 Adam One quick question. Just let me pose this hypothetical to people. When you start the movie off with you contacting a guy who's either just out of prison or paroled and going straight and label him, you say you need him to do this job because he's the best. Now, I'm not a criminal, but doesn't part of being the best include not getting caught?

1:10:02 Drew Yeah.

1:10:03 Adam Can you be the best jewel thief and do 10 years in Levingworth?

1:10:09 Drew Yeah.

1:10:09 Adam Do you know what I'm saying? As a criminal, wouldn't really toward the top of the list of being the best criteria mean not getting caught?

1:10:18 Drew Yes.

1:10:18 Adam So how are you the best when you just got way through the parole?

1:10:21 Drew There was a fluke.

1:10:22 Adam Okay. You're the best. Somebody call me and tell me the name of Nicolas Cage's character from Gone in 60 Seconds.

1:10:31 Drew I'm thinking of a calling.

1:10:32 Adam And we will all have a tremendous laugh when we hear the name.

1:10:35 Drew Why?

1:10:36 Adam Because it's one of those great, great, bad, bad, bad names.

1:10:39 Drew You know it or you can't remember it.

1:10:40 Adam Can't think of it, but it is a great, bad name.

1:10:44 Drew The guy, we did have some responses on the website about the gatorade in vodka. People are thinking that perhaps he was referring to Red Bull in vodka, which that does start to make sense to me. There could be something potentially problematic, all those stimulants and what not mixed in with alcohol. That's not a good mix. Generally, stimulants with alcohol are thought to cause a more cardiotoxic compound, but those are specific to the specific stimulants. Like cocaine is formed into something called cocaethylene. That tends to be more cardiac problems associated with that than pure cocaine.

1:11:17 Adam Hey Anderson, is that heart attack from animal house? Are you aware? I do know. That heart attack sound effect.

1:11:25 Drew Where does it come from?

1:11:26 Adam I think it's from animal house for some reason.

1:11:27 Drew It might have actually come from a cart that they used for animal house.

1:11:30 Adam All right. Sandy?

1:11:32 Caller Yes?

1:11:33 Adam So Sandy was raped by her friend's fiancee while you were passed out on the sofa.

1:11:40 Caller Yeah.

1:11:41 Adam And did you press charges on this guy?

1:11:44 Caller I'm in the process of it still.

1:11:46 Drew Good. How long ago did this happen?

1:11:48 Caller How long ago?

1:11:49 Drew How long ago?

1:11:50 Caller It was a year ago.

1:11:51 Drew And did you, how soon before you notified the authorities?

1:11:56 Caller Well, I went to my dad when I found out what had happened to me and they took me to the hospital and they notified the authorities. Good. Perfect. Was it up to you? I was really afraid at the time and I was really confused.

1:12:11 Drew Of course.

1:12:12 Caller Out of it.

1:12:13 Drew Of course.

1:12:13 Adam Where is this guy still with this friend of yours?

1:12:16 Caller Yeah, they're still together. Yeah, well she and I were both raised in an alcoholic family by abusive fathers and everything so it didn't surprise me that she stayed with him but...

1:12:28 Drew And your dad is in recovery now?

1:12:30 Caller It was my stepfather that raised me. And I don't speak to my mother or my stepfather anymore. And we're curious why your dad stepped in and sort of did the right thing and now it all makes sense. It wasn't my dad, it was actually my stepmother who used to be a rape crisis counselor which is why I went to her in the first place because I didn't want to go to the hospital but there was some damage to my body and I wanted to make sure that I was okay.

1:12:53 Adam What damage was there to your body?

1:12:56 Caller I had some tearing and some cuts.

1:12:58 Adam Oh my god, this guy is an animal.

1:13:00 Caller They hypothesized that he raped me with some sort of sharp foreign object.

1:13:03 Drew Oh my god.

1:13:04 Caller Actually raping me.

1:13:07 Adam Did he wake up?

1:13:08 Caller No, I didn't.

1:13:10 Drew Thank goodness, really, right?

1:13:11 Caller I don't know. I'd kind of rather have woken up and known what happened to me.

1:13:17 Adam Well, no, maybe she could have got out of that. Yeah. Well, so hold on a second. You drank so much, you were just completely just gone.

1:13:28 Caller You know, that's what I thought for a long time, but after I've talked to my dad about it a whole lot because he couldn't understand how I didn't wake up.

1:13:35 Adam He may have drugged you.

1:13:37 Caller I have a feeling that he did.

1:13:38 Drew Yeah, that makes sense.

1:13:39 Caller And that's one of the things that pisses me off about that whole SART exam thing. Oh, I don't know if I'm allowed to say pissing off.

1:13:44 Adam That's fine.

1:13:45 Drew What exam?

1:13:46 Caller The SART exam. That's what they call it. Sexual Assault Rape.

1:13:50 Caller Right, right.

1:13:52 Caller And they don't take blood from you and test you if you've been drugged. They don't take blood from you but they don't test it.

1:13:59 Adam They don't test to see if you were drugged.

1:14:01 Caller Right, you have to request that.

1:14:03 Drew Yeah, do you know what? That's a great point though to educate people on the, even just test urine.

1:14:07 Caller Yeah, you have to request that they test you for drugs. At the time it didn't even occur to me.

1:14:12 Adam Well, but I don't know, I don't know.

1:14:14 Drew It helps build your case though if you've finished, you know.

1:14:17 Adam But by the way, that may not be them, that may be the ACLU. Right. Saying that you cannot test somebody for drugs unless they specifically request it.

1:14:28 Drew Right.

1:14:28 Caller They could at least offer it to you.

1:14:31 Adam Yeah, but like I said, I would blame the ACLU on that more than blame the hospitals. But because they're doing a forensic exam trying to bring up criminal charges.

1:14:41 Caller Yeah.

1:14:42 Adam Why wouldn't they? But okay, so a couple of, do they really think this guy put something in you? I mean, other than being, you know, I mean, if his penis is there and he's violent about it, that could certainly do some damage.

1:14:56 Caller He said that that was the tearing but I had actual cuts. They said there were some like deep fingernail type cuts. They couldn't identify some of them.

1:15:06 Adam Maybe they were fingernails.

1:15:08 Caller Yeah, they said that some of them definitely were but some of them...

1:15:10 Adam Jesus, this guy just sounds like an animal.

1:15:13 Caller He is a freak.

1:15:15 Adam And does your friend know all of this?

1:15:19 Caller She actually, I was at their house for quite a while after I figured out what had happened to me because I was just kind of in shock and I went to her because she was my best friend and we sat in the bathroom for a long while and I have a feeling she might have known he was going to do it because the first thing she did was put me in a bathtub and now that I think about it that's a little weird.

1:15:39 Drew Or maybe it had happened to her with him.

1:15:41 Caller Yeah, well she told me that he has done things like that to her before that she had woken up to him having sex with her.

1:15:47 Adam Well, now as far as the authorities go, this has been a year. Don't they want to move on this a little bit?

1:15:55 Caller The police, and this happened in San Diego, and the police there actually are being incredibly uncooperative. He left where they were living and they said, oh, we can't find him, but my dad hired a private investigator that found them in a day and a half.

1:16:10 Adam Wow. Well, let me tell you something about the cops. They have unlimited resources and energy. If you owe them money for any kind of moving violation, warrants or parking or anything like that. But if they ever have to go after somebody that doesn't owe them money, they become they become monkeys. They have they become they're NASA geniuses with a supercomputer. If you owe them money and they become monkeys with like a wooden abacus.

1:16:37 Caller Well, my detective on my case basically told me she's asked me a number of times if I'm sure if I didn't consent.

1:16:43 Adam Wow.

1:16:43 Caller And then she's also told me a number of times not to get my hopes up because all he has to do is get an attorney who will say it's my word against his and that I'm into rough sex.

1:16:52 Adam Yeah, but I'll bet you that this guy has some prior.

1:16:56 Drew Yeah, you can get a little history of something.

1:16:59 Caller Well, and that's the other thing she tells me is that I shouldn't think it's a waste even if I can't prosecute him because when he rapes somebody again they'll have the evidence on me which I think is full because why should I be waiting around for somebody else?

1:17:12 Adam Well, but listen, listen, no, there's two things. There's a few things. One is, yes, it's not that satisfying. But two is, it's what choice you have at a certain point.

1:17:24 Drew Yeah, it's the way it's going to play out.

1:17:27 Adam And there may be something that is on this guy already. Obviously, they look into that.

1:17:33 Drew Somebody may have done what you're doing already and that's how you're going to be able to carry your case out.

1:17:37 Caller Yeah, well, when my dad got the private investigator they found out that he has a bunch of different social security numbers linked to his name and a couple of other things, so I don't know.

1:17:47 Adam Are you still in touch with this best friend of yours?

1:17:50 Caller Oh, no.

1:17:52 Guest Well, that's good.

1:17:53 Caller She called me about a week after it happened and asked me if I was okay and asked me if I was going to press charges in the time I wasn't going to and I said no. But I decided about two and a half months after that after I got some therapies that I wanted to.

1:18:09 Adam Well, I'm sorry this happened but, you know, your sound, it almost as if it was a beginning of some healing for you, some help for you.

1:18:18 Caller It's still very, very, very hard.

1:18:20 Drew Oh, my God. But you know, you've had a lot of hard stuff you've gone through that is sort of spearheaded by what's happened here. This is because it's kind of come together around this event.

1:18:30 Caller But you know, that stuff is dealable because, you know, what happens when you're a child is very different than what happens when you're an adult.

1:18:37 Caller Yes.

1:18:37 Caller Especially if you had stuff happen when you were a child.

1:18:39 Drew That's precisely the point, though, that really brings the old stuff to the surface. That's actually more difficult to get at.

1:18:45 Adam Well, did your stepdad rape you?

1:18:47 Drew Yeah. She said she did.

1:18:49 Caller He molested me as a child, but he never raped me.

1:18:51 Drew It's interesting. A few minutes ago, you described it as him raping you.

1:18:54 Adam He did?

1:18:54 Drew Yeah, she did.

1:18:55 Caller No, I described him as abusive.

1:18:57 Adam Yeah, I didn't hear the rape. I didn't hear her say rape.

1:18:59 Drew I did.

1:19:00 Adam Well, Drew, I asked you for coffee. You hear rape.

1:19:02 Drew Yeah.

1:19:02 Adam Do you want to be raped? I have no recollection of it either. Molluscum contagiosus or whatever the hell you got there.

1:19:13 Caller This is the thing. Here's why I'm worried. I know that my former best friend has HPV. That was my first concern when I got my head together enough to worry about it, was that I had contracted HPV and then I got these bumps and I convinced myself that I had HPV. I'm a college student, so I went to Student Health and they told me that it was, she just looked at it and said, oh, it's molluscum.

1:19:37 Drew Molluscum is easy to diagnose, but you should, and it's treatable, just have them burned off or take it off, scraped off. They tend not to be contagious when you don't have the actual little zits there that are caused, that we call molluscum contagiosum. But I would still consider yourself at very high risk for the wart virus, for the papillomavirus, and get at least, I would say, biannual pelvic exams twice a year.

1:19:57 Adam All right. And Nicholas Cage's character name, Memphis Reigns.

1:20:04 Caller Oh, boy.

1:20:05 Adam Memphis Reigns. And you know why they needed him to steal these cards? Because you're the best, Memphis. You're the best and you know it. No one else could pull this job off. No one but you, who had been busted for doing this before, or successfully prosecuted. Now, you're the best. And Angelina Jolie, her name was like Wheels or something.

1:20:29 Drew In the same... Yeah, same woman.

1:20:30 Adam She worked at a... She knew new Ferraris.

1:20:33 Drew Huh.

1:20:34 Adam You know any hot chicks who know anything? Not just about cars, just anything.

1:20:37 Drew No, no. Yes, I do. But no, Dr. Drew.

1:20:39 Do you? All right. Hey, his name was High in that Raisin Arizona.

1:20:42 Drew That's even better.

1:20:44 Hi.

1:20:44 Adam I love that movie, though.

1:20:46 That's my favorite comedy of all time.

1:20:49 Drew 16.

1:20:50 Guest Oh, hi. Okay.

1:20:55 Caller I broke up a long...

1:20:58 Guest Well, not a long time ago. About six or seven months ago.

1:21:02 Caller No, I dated him six or seven months ago.

1:21:04 Caller And then I broke up with my boyfriend Eric about three...

1:21:10 Guest No, more than that.

1:21:12 Caller Well, I dated him for about four months. And then my friend Deborah, my best friend, has been my friend for like seven years. About a month after I broke up with him, she broke away from me. And what I'm wondering is because Eric, when he seemingly out of the blue, he just, because I was away at a...

1:21:38 Adam Please, please work in another number, please.

1:21:43 Drew Why just, what, just to stay with this.

1:21:45 Adam Listen, listen, you got to understand everybody. If you go, it's like if I go, here's my phone number, I want you to go, 213.

1:21:54 Drew No, wait, no, no.

1:21:55 Adam No, no, 310. No, no, no, no, hold on. 818. No, no. No, 714. After a while, you shut down, you had to start swimming. I don't know if you're with this guy six months ago or if you're with him for six months or you broke up three years ago. Here's the deal. What's the question?

1:22:11 Drew What's the question in one sentence?

1:22:13 Caller Okay.

1:22:14 Caller Both of them pointed out certain qualities in me, like I'm insensitive and mean and stuff when they broke away from me. And I don't know if I should try to figure out what's wrong with me and change that or just look for someone, friends and dating, who are more like me.

1:22:35 Drew I'm also insensitive and mean, you mean? Yeah.

1:22:38 Guest Because Eric, he said that I treated him like crap and stuff like that.

1:22:44 Caller And he had never said anything remotely like that up until the point when he just exploded.

1:22:51 Drew Well, but the kind of person that would take a lot of crap from someone might not be able to tell you about it until they become rageful. And in fact, that kind of person often gets involved with people that dump a lot of crap on them.

1:23:05 Adam And by the way, Eric, 5'9, 1'63, born at 3'28, 81. Go ahead.

1:23:13 Guest Okay.

1:23:15 Caller And the thing about Debra, she...

1:23:18 Drew Yeah, this is what this is.

1:23:21 Adam Hey, Penny.

1:23:22 Guest Yeah?

1:23:23 Adam Um...

1:23:25 Drew I don't know.

1:23:26 Adam How about Jesus? You into Jesus?

1:23:28 Guest Um, I'm agnostic. I mean...

1:23:31 Oh, really?

1:23:32 Caller Yeah, I mean, I would... I go to church, except that my parents... My mother is the only one in my family that can drive because my father just can't. But, um...

1:23:42 Drew What do you... Well, now you expect us to let that just go by.

1:23:44 Adam How come your dad can't drive?

1:23:46 Guest Um, because when he was in college, he got...

1:23:49 Caller Well, he always had really bad eyesight, but when he was in college, he got beat up by a gang, which really just wrecked his eyesight, so now he can't drive.

1:23:56 Adam Okay.

1:23:58 Drew College and gang violence don't usually go together in the same sentence.

1:24:01 Adam Oh, that's school hard nuts.

1:24:02 Guest I mean, not in college.

1:24:04 Adam Right. At college age. Hi, Penny. It's hard to tell when you're 16 if people, what they say about you is true, or they're just being mean and vindictive about it. But, any way you slice it, you might as well work on just being as good a person as you can be, and as nice and as thoughtful as you can be.

1:24:25 Drew Why wouldn't you want to work on yourself?

1:24:27 Caller I mean, I would.

1:24:28 Guest I just don't know.

1:24:29 Caller Because also, with their brother, the other thing was before a month, well, no, a couple of weeks before that, she had a little problem with what she was telling me. I was being mean and stuff, so I worked on it, and I tried to be nice and everything, and then she seemed to be good with it.

1:24:42 Adam All right.

1:24:42 Guest A couple of weeks later, she just turned.

1:24:45 Drew Well, maybe you start getting mean again.

1:24:47 Guest Okay.

1:24:48 Drew All right.

1:24:49 Adam Look, I've known Penny all four minutes. She sounds delightful. And how mean can someone named Penny be? Think about that. Any truly evil people other than Penny Marshall named Penny?

1:25:06 Drew Maybe she was being mean by driving them crazy with her tangential ramblings.

1:25:13 Adam That's good. Yeah, I did get angry halfway into that.

1:25:16 Drew They begged her to stop and she wouldn't.

1:25:17 Adam She kept throwing numbers at them. All right, Penny, you're a good person.

1:25:23 Drew Listen, wouldn't our advice always be the one variable you can change in life?

1:25:27 Adam Your underpants.

1:25:28 Drew No, yourself. It's nothing you actually can work on. If somebody is giving you some information, assess it, incorporate it, look at it, go ahead and work on it.

1:25:35 Adam That's right. We'll be back. Hey, yo, yeah, uber stank. I like that riff. All right, Drew, let's buckle up them safety belts and rock on down the lane.

1:25:58 Drew Watch out for the mattresses, too.

1:26:00 Caller That's right.

1:26:00 Drew John, 21.

1:26:02 Caller Hi, guys. How are you doing? Good, John. I was inspired to call tonight because I'm 21. In high school, I was diagnosed with depression and it got to the point where I almost committed suicide but have a great family, so I told them, so I went to a hospital. Since then, in my first year of college, I actually got over the depression, went off the medications, and everything has been fine. And recently, for no real apparent reason, the depression started up again. And extremely recently, the past couple of weeks, it's gotten kind of out of control where I'm having destructive thoughts again. And not acting on them, and not planning or anything, but having the destructive thoughts.

1:26:55 Drew With depression, this is more often the case than not, that it recurs. So absolutely, you've got to get back on the medication that worked for you, get back in touch with the team that was taking care of you. You weren't doing drugs or alcohol that helped precipitate this at all, John?

1:27:09 Caller I'm sorry?

1:27:09 Drew Using drugs or alcohol lately?

1:27:11 Caller No, I never used drugs, but alcohol is an occasional use, but I don't get out of control.

1:27:17 Drew Alright, listen, there's a great organization called the National Depressive and Manic Depressive Association. I don't have the right time.

1:27:23 Adam Good times.

1:27:24 Drew You can get on the web though at ndmda.org. They've got tons of resources, the Patient Advocacy Group, lots of stuff about depression and medication and how to work with your doctors on it. But it is something you need to get back on, medication.

1:27:39 Adam Good luck. Amanda?

1:27:41 Caller Hello.

1:27:41 Adam You're 22?

1:27:42 Caller Yes.

1:27:43 Adam Is it common for people who are molested to repeat it?

1:27:47 Drew Yes.

1:27:48 Adam You were molested?

1:27:49 Caller No. I guess I should back you up with the story first.

1:27:53 Drew Let's just answer the question. Absolutely. It tends to be you become a victim and victimizers seem to know that somehow and they find you.

1:28:00 Adam Oh, yeah. But also if you are molested, you will molest others.

1:28:04 Drew About 60% of the time.

1:28:05 Adam Some of the time.

1:28:05 Drew About 60% of the time.

1:28:06 Adam I'd say guys more than women.

1:28:08 Caller Yeah.

1:28:09 Adam Okay.

1:28:09 Caller Okay.

1:28:10 Adam So someone molested who?

1:28:12 Caller Well, no one molested... Well, my ex-fiance, I believe he was molested as a child. And I just found out recently that he was going around showing himself to people, not a specific age group.

1:28:32 Drew I like how she describes this. It makes it seem almost like...

1:28:35 Adam He was presenting. Yeah.

1:28:37 Caller And he was...

1:28:38 Drew Showing himself.

1:28:40 Caller But just like going out of his car.

1:28:42 Adam You don't know if they're not necessarily younger people.

1:28:46 Drew Well, I just...

1:28:47 Caller Like I said, I just found out. And...

1:28:49 Drew How did you find out?

1:28:50 Caller The cop... Pardon me?

1:28:51 Drew The cop? How did you find out?

1:28:53 Caller Well, I came home like a couple of nights ago, and a detective was actually at my door.

1:28:59 Drew Wow.

1:29:00 Caller And yeah, he was a shock to me too. And he came up to me and said, are you Amanda? And I was like, yeah. And then he said, well, I got some news for you. And he just told me that my ex-fiancée was showing himself to people.

1:29:16 Drew All right.

1:29:17 Adam You broke up though?

1:29:19 Caller Yeah.

1:29:19 Drew All right. Let it go. He's your ex.

1:29:22 Caller You know what? It's been hard because I mean, we just lost a baby.

1:29:29 Caller I had a stillborn child with him.

1:29:34 Drew So now you're completely disconnected from him, right? There's nothing.

1:29:38 Caller Well, he's been calling me from the jail and talking to me and everything. So I want to.

1:29:48 Guest It's just like really hard.

1:29:50 Adam Hold on. He did time because he exposed himself?

1:29:54 Caller He's doing time.

1:29:55 Adam He's there. He didn't have any priors?

1:29:58 Caller No. This is his first time.

1:30:03 Drew How do you know that?

1:30:03 Adam Hold on. A million guys have pulled their junk out and waved it around at a car window.

1:30:09 Drew How do you know it's the first time?

1:30:12 Caller Because, well, I guess I really don't know.

1:30:15 Drew No. People with murder charges don't stay in jail.

1:30:19 Adam How much time is he doing?

1:30:22 Caller I'm not sure yet.

1:30:23 Caller He hasn't gone on trial.

1:30:26 Drew Listen, they're holding him with a heavy bail, right?

1:30:30 Caller I think it's $15,000.

1:30:32 Caller Oh, that's a lot.

1:30:36 Adam Okay, listen, I'm sorry for what happened with you in your stillborn, but in a way, it's probably a good thing.

1:30:44 Caller Yeah, yeah.

1:30:45 Adam Because this guy is a, God knows what kind of guy. You guys are too young. You shouldn't be having kids. Don't get reconnected with this guy. This is a great way to make a clean break. Well, it could be better. He's in prison. Yeah. Awaiting his fate. You move on. I know you're depressed.

1:31:05 Drew Codependent. I know you read a book called Codependent No More, or The Road Less Traveled. One of those two books, right?

1:31:10 There you go.

1:31:16 Adam All righty. I want to thank you all for tuning in tonight. Thank you tomorrow for Trishard Cattle being here. We had her on the TV a while ago. I can't remember if she's been in here since I've been here.

1:31:28 Drew No, I don't think so. I remember the stories about her having worked at Pasadena Planned Parenthood.

1:31:32 Adam That's right. She's a very interesting person. So we'll talk there. Bad Religion 311, Robert Downey Jr., Anthony Kittas, Ron Lester, and some other cast members, Jamie Presley.

1:31:46 Drew Jamie's like exploding all of a sudden, right?

1:31:49 Adam Yeah, she's been going pretty good for a few years. All from Not Another Teen Movie. All those guests that are coming up in the next few weeks here on Loveline. So until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:32:01 Guest Lick my butt.

1:32:03 This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff management sponsors for this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is the presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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