Episode 1000754886622

1:02 Voiceover Listener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Loveline, Coast to Coast.

1:13 Voiceover Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified internist and addiction medicine specialist. Jerri Manthey is supposed to be our guest tonight. She is from Survivor 2 and currently gracing the pages of Playboy. Out on newsstands as we speak, right? The September issue is out. We will talk to her in theory when she comes in the studio, but she may have gotten lost on the way here. Now, there's a whole group of, I don't want to call them losers, but losers slash spaz.

1:51 Drew There aren't any females in the group. No. Let's put it that. Let's start with that.

1:56 Adam I will call them spoozers. So spaz loser guys hanging out front who want to get stuff signed by Jerri. And here's the deal. If you're a woman and you're on the cover of something, especially Playboy, these guys get on the internet, they figure out when they're coming in here, then they stand up front and they get them to sign it. Not because they want to give it to their kids or put it in their office or garage. They want to sell it. I have signed many things, and I don't know if you have too, Drew, that are nothing more than three by five cards.

2:27 Drew Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:28 Adam They wait out people, wait out front of trendy restaurants, and they wait out front of nice hotels in New York, and when you step out, they ask you to sign it. And then usually by the time you get to the third or fourth one, the third or fourth person asks who you are. Because if they see other people wanting you to sign something, they'll sign it. And then, you know, if you get brought up on rape charges, or die in a plane crash, that card may be worth something one day to them.

2:51 Drew That's also, by the way, why they take your picture when you walked into a whatever event. It's not because they're going to use it.

2:58 Adam I know. I know. Every time, if you walk down the red carpet, people go, Adam, Adam, over here, over here. And I yell at them every time, where are these goddamn pictures? I've never seen one of them. I'll tell you where they are. As soon as I rate my mom, there you go, you'll see them there. And then go on a crime spree, that's the picture they're going to use. So, anyway, Jerri Manthey should be in here after she makes her way through the, what do I call them, losers, spaz? Sploozers. Spaz slash losers that are waiting out front of Loveline. All right. Oh, and here she is now. She's here.

3:38 Drew Yes, we were just talking about them.

3:39 Adam Yes, the spaz losers, these losers. I've just coined a new phrase.

3:45 Jerri Manthey Wow. Yeah.

3:47 Adam Did you sign your magazines?

3:48 Jerri Manthey No, I ran straight in here.

3:49 Adam Oh, smart.

3:50 Jerri Manthey But I did sign one for you.

3:52 Adam Oh, really?

3:53 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

3:53 Adam Thank you.

3:55 All right.

3:56 Jerri Manthey I knew if anyone, you'd appreciate it.

3:58 Adam That is beautiful. And you know what? I haven't even seen you in it yet.

4:01 Jerri Manthey Oh, you haven't.

4:03 Drew He almost did. He just handed it to him when he went on the radio.

4:06 Adam Now, you've never posed nude for anything before, right?

4:09 Jerri Manthey Never.

4:11 Adam And I think as a, now, you're not an ultra religious or conservative person, are you? No.

4:18 Jerri Manthey Not by any means. Right. Not at all.

4:21 Adam No, what I'm saying is, is I think most people, women and men, don't object to being seen nude. They object to looking bad nude. Do you know what I'm saying? We make a big deal over being nude, but look at guys who look really good with their shirts off. Their shirts are off all the time. They're at a cub game in September, and it's a night game, and it's 44 degrees outside, and that shirt is off, man.

4:50 Jerri Manthey See, that's why I felt so comfortable doing it, is because I knew that these people had been doing it for years and years, and they would make me look fabulous.

4:57 Adam Right. Experts. Why wouldn't they? I mean, it behooves them to make you look fabulous too.

5:03 Jerri Manthey Exactly. It works for everyone.

5:05 Adam Right.

5:05 Jerri Manthey The stylist, the makeup artist, everybody.

5:07 Adam I'll tell you, Drew, I just flipped open to the back of Playboy here, and I see they do that Girls of the Pac-10 or the Big Eight or whatever. I love that. Don't you like that part of Playboy?

5:19 Drew You've now reminded me what I was going to say about posing nude. It's not so much the posing nude or the, I agree with the looking good part, but it's sort of what men do with these pictures. It seems unpleasant.

5:32 Jerri Manthey I've had people ask me that, if that would bother me, but no, absolutely not. It just means they're healthy.

5:39 Adam Yeah, it's a compliment of the highest order.

5:44 Drew Oh.

5:45 Adam Guys, and I know there's no answer to this question, but do they beat off the Playboy anymore?

5:50 Jerri Manthey I would say yes.

5:51 Drew It's a good question, they must.

5:52 Jerri Manthey I would say yes.

5:53 Adam I think of Playboy as sort of the cocktail before dinner.

6:00 Drew The mixed nuts.

6:01 Adam Yeah, it's the mixed nuts.

6:02 Jerri Manthey So to speak.

6:04 Adam And the highball you have before you sink your teeth into the top sirloin known as hardcore porn.

6:10 Drew When you were into your mass-deportory prime, Sure. Playboy was all you had.

6:15 Adam Hold on, let's let everyone know what that prime was. That was 79 through 2025.

6:23 Drew No, it was through 99.

6:24 Adam Through 99, yes.

6:26 Drew But Playboy was all you had, really.

6:28 Adam That's right. We had to make do. And this would have been plenty enough for me back when I was in my mass-deportory prime. But now my penis and scrotum have moved on to bigger and yuckier things. But Drew, hold on to this. Hold on.

6:41 Drew We'll put that mic down there. We'll take a call while you...

6:45 Adam OK, because I've not seen this. OK.

6:48 Drew Maybe we should get your reactions live.

6:50 Jerri Manthey I think that'd be fun. I'm curious to see what someone, an expert, would have to say.

6:56 Adam All right. Thank you. Ooh, let's see. Philadelphia picked to win the NFC East this year.

7:02 Jerri Manthey There's some great articles in this issue as well.

7:04 Drew It's pretty amazing. This article has got to be three weeks old or a month old. Philadelphia was on their ass a month ago.

7:11 Jerri Manthey It's been out since the beginning of the month.

7:14 Adam All right. Let's see. Grit and wit make Jerri a star of the outback. Looking good wearing something very like a sheer bikini.

7:24 Jerri Manthey Hey, there's someone with their shirt off over there.

7:28 Oh, that's nice.

7:29 Drew Look Anderson.

7:31 Oh, Jesus Christ.

7:34 Drew Does he have his pants on?

7:35 Adam Fair amount of man boob in that room. Nice.

7:38 Jerri Manthey These are very artistic.

7:41 Drew How did she see that with her head? We missed it, and she has her back turned to that, but she caught that.

7:46 Adam I saw Damien taking a shirt off, but I tried to block it out and move forward. Oh, this is beautiful. Now, where did you shoot this?

7:55 Jerri Manthey Some of it was shot in Utah, like around Arches National Park area, and all the blue background pictures were shot, believe it or not, in Palmdale, at a studio they built in the middle of the desert. It was all outdoor studio.

8:09 Adam Wow. They built that for you?

8:11 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

8:12 Adam Wow, that's huge. That's great.

8:13 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

8:14 Adam Yeah.

8:15 Jerri Manthey It was a lot of fun. I felt that.

8:18 Adam So that-

8:20 Drew That's water.

8:20 Adam That's water.

8:21 Drew That's the studio?

8:22 Jerri Manthey Yeah, they built the studio so that you could flood the floor.

8:25 Adam Oh my God. That's a big like psych behind you that's airbrushed or something? The clouds and everything?

8:30 Drew Yeah.

8:30 Jerri Manthey Isn't it beautiful? That's amazing. I'm very happy with the way it came out.

8:33 Adam And what about this here? That's those rocks and stuff.

8:36 Jerri Manthey Those rocks were all made specially for the shoot.

8:40 Adam Holy Christ. All right.

8:43 Jerri Manthey And the driftwood and all that.

8:44 Adam Oh, yes. There's the great vagina shot.

8:46 Jerri Manthey Hey, that is not.

8:48 Adam Yes. Wow. Like a muse.

8:52 Jerri Manthey Oh, no. There's no vagina shots in this.

8:55 Adam Well, I'd say so. Yes.

8:56 Jerri Manthey This is a layout, not a spread.

8:58 Healthy vagina.

8:59 Adam Very wonderful. This is good. I could masturbate to this.

9:04 Jerri Manthey I take that as a compliment, Adam.

9:06 Adam Thank you.

9:07 Drew Two fists up.

9:08 Adam Two hampers up.

9:09 Yeah.

9:10 Adam Came out very nice. Thank you. And I imagine. Two gym socks on.

9:17 Jerri Manthey I think I'm blushing. Oh my goodness.

9:19 Adam I told Drew that he should photograph his children nude every year on their birthday until they're old enough to work the camera for themselves and do it. Why? Because wouldn't it be totally freaky to see yourself at seven, at 13, at 21? Here would be. Oh, this would be great. Somebody's got to do this.

9:42 Drew Sounds really abusive.

9:43 Jerri Manthey Yeah, it sounds. I don't know if I want to know. I don't know if I want to hear anymore.

9:47 Drew But any parent that would do that is suspect.

9:49 Adam Okay. But tell me how cool this would be. Starting at age one, you stand in front of one of those blue backdrops they use at the prom or where they take pictures of the kids at the mall or some nondescript blue background. And you just stand there with your hands at your side, no expression on your face, naked. And you take a picture on your first birthday and your second birthday. And you go all the way through till your mid-70s. Then you make it into a flip book. And it's like pubic hair.

10:19 Jerri Manthey But see, that's about when you could...

10:20 Adam And then brass hanging and then maybe get a mastectomy at some point.

10:24 Jerri Manthey That's about the age when you can start working the camera. The pubescent properties that take place during those years.

10:32 Adam I'd like to have a picture of myself naked at 14.

10:37 Drew Let's leave it at that.

10:38 Yeah.

10:39 Drew But you'd like a picture of yourself. Yeah. All right.

10:42 Adam So how's the feedback, Ben? Your parents, all that kind of stuff, school teachers, clergymen, everything been good?

10:49 Jerri Manthey The priests.

10:49 Adam Priests?

10:50 Jerri Manthey Yeah. No. My parents, basically they brought me up, they taught me right from wrong and sent me out into the world. So as long as I'm happy and it's something that I'm proud of, they're happy for me. But they don't, whether they agree with it or not is a whole other thing.

11:05 Drew They're going nuts, but she doesn't listen to her.

11:07 Adam Right. You know what I'd love? I want to hear a playmate because they always interview the playmates or the people that pose or do whatever and they go, well, I was a little apprehensive about telling my father because he's a traditional guy. But you know what? He saw it and he actually really enjoyed it. It was okay with him and blah, blah, blah.

11:29 Jerri Manthey No, I won't be saying that.

11:30 Adam Good.

11:30 Jerri Manthey No, my dad.

11:31 Adam I want to hear a story where the guy flipped out and tried to kill you on himself.

11:34 Jerri Manthey No, no, no, no. My dad and I have an agreement that he'll never look at the pictures. He's like, are you-

11:40 Drew That's healthy enough.

11:41 Jerri Manthey Yeah. He's like, I'm glad you're happy you did it. I'm proud of the fact that you are a woman and you made up your mind and you did what you wanted to do, but he'll never see the pictures.

11:50 Adam You know what's funny about the nude posing stuff is how they have a person who's like a robe wrangler who's standing nearby holding a robe, right? Now, Jerri will stand naked for like 14 hours, but the second someone goes, Herb, I need a new battery in this car. Get the robe in there. Get the robe in. Come on, it's not a piece of meat. It was like eight dudes have been looking at you naked for eight hours, but the second a light goes out or something, come on with the robe, the robe. They put the robe around you and then robe off, time to work, right?

12:20 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

12:21 Well, was there a robe wrangler?

12:23 Jerri Manthey I was my own robe wrangler.

12:25 Adam Well, where was the robe though? How did you get the robe?

12:27 Jerri Manthey It was over on the side.

12:28 Adam Someone had to bring in the robe.

12:29 Jerri Manthey No. I was very comfortable. I'm perfectly comfortable with my body and I'm working with people that are used to seeing naked women all the time. I think that the second you feel shameful about your body, that's when you're shamed.

12:41 Adam No robe wrangler. Is that what you're saying?

12:43 Jerri Manthey No.

12:45 Adam Interesting.

12:46 Jerri Manthey I actually had conversations with the lighting guys. I was like, so do you guys have a girlfriend? I was standing there totally naked.

12:52 Adam Wow.

12:53 Jerri Manthey It was a very bizarre experience.

12:55 Adam Good money for that.

12:56 Jerri Manthey It was very bizarre. I have to say.

12:57 Adam How long was the shoot?

12:58 Jerri Manthey Two weeks.

12:59 Adam You were naked for two weeks, right? No robe? Two weeks? Yeah.

13:03 Drew It was two weeks. Is it all still or do they do a bunch of video stuff too?

13:06 Jerri Manthey No. I actually turned down a large, large amount of money to not do a video. I felt very strongly about not.

13:15 Drew What would that mean to you?

13:17 Jerri Manthey Well, for me, there's a huge difference between the still photos and the moving picture.

13:22 Drew Interesting.

13:23 Jerri Manthey It almost crosses over into the pornography portion.

13:27 Adam Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah.

13:31 Jerri Manthey So for me, it was a big decision, but I felt apprehensive about doing a video so immediately because I knew I'd be uncomfortable and it would show in film and there's just no reason to go there, regardless of the money, and it was a lot.

13:44 Adam How much was it?

13:45 Jerri Manthey I can't tell you that.

13:46 Adam Oh, please.

13:47 Drew You guys, we went through this last time.

13:48 Jerri Manthey I know. We did. We did.

13:50 Adam You turned it down. People have a newfound respect for you when they find out how much you turned out.

13:56 Jerri Manthey They probably would.

13:57 Adam Million? Over a million.

14:00 Drew Over or under? Let's play over or under.

14:02 Adam Over a million, under a million.

14:03 Jerri Manthey I'm not saying.

14:05 Adam What do you care? I do. What do you care?

14:08 Jerri Manthey Because I like to keep some things private. I'm already naked. I think I exposed enough.

14:13 Adam I know, but it's like some guy offered me a bunch of money to blow him, this old rich queen. Yeah? How much? I can't say. Why not? You didn't do it. Why? It's not different. I didn't do it. I didn't do it.

14:28 Drew No, I suspect that not everyone-

14:30 Adam It's not different if you didn't do it.

14:32 Jerri Manthey I don't like talking about money. It makes me uncomfortable.

14:35 Drew I can understand that, but more importantly, I think, Adam, not everyone in this industry hates everyone else in this industry the way you do.

14:40 Adam I do. How dare you?

14:42 Drew You know what I'm saying? Except Daniel and Jimmy, except for me.

14:44 Adam What are you talking about?

14:46 Drew What?

14:46 Adam What do you mean?

14:47 Drew Ask about any and everybody.

14:49 Adam Well, that's true, but what's that have to do with this?

14:52 Drew She's trying to make nice relationships with people.

14:55 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

14:55 Adam Oh, I see. You don't want to screw Playboy.

14:57 Drew All right.

14:58 Jerri Manthey I don't want to screw anybody over. I have no reason to.

15:01 Adam I don't understand what the inherent screwing is in telling us what you turned out.

15:05 Jerri Manthey They're very private about the money that they pay people.

15:08 Adam All right. Well, if they asked you not to.

15:10 Jerri Manthey Yeah. I signed a confidentiality agreement.

15:11 Adam All right. Well, listen, bring that up 10 minutes ago. Would you tell me off the air? I'm going to get, I'm saying it's a million and change. I'm saying like one point something. You know the great thing about those videos, as I've seen a million of them where they're always naked, but they're in this fake habitat, some country thing.

15:31 Jerri Manthey That's what I said. I was like, I'm not running naked through a field blowing bubbles.

15:35 Adam They're washing cars, they're washing a car. There's something going on. And then at a certain point, it's like, these Daisy Dukes are too confining. I have to get out of this. They're always, yeah, they're always...

15:46 Jerri Manthey They chafe too. Daisy Dukes are bad news.

15:49 Adam And once in a while, they try to they try to weave a guy in there too. Yeah. Oh, yes. Playboy's moving right along. Valerie?

15:56 Yeah.

15:57 Adam You're 38? What's up there?

16:02 Caller Well, I was looking for your experience in the anal world.

16:08 Drew Adam's experience?

16:10 Caller Yes.

16:10 Adam All right.

16:11 Jerri Manthey Giving or receiving?

16:12 Caller Having Jerry there is nice for a female perspective.

16:17 Adam Sure. Playboy offered her $4 million for anal.

16:20 Jerri Manthey Oh, stop it.

16:22 Adam She's thinking about it.

16:25 Caller I was just wondering, is it normal to experience pain before penetration?

16:31 Drew Like just at the thought?

16:34 Adam My ass hurts now.

16:35 Jerri Manthey Yeah, my too. I'm feeling very uncomfortable myself.

16:38 Drew We don't like the thought, no.

16:41 Adam What do you mean before?

16:44 Caller Before penetration.

16:46 Adam Right, right. I'm hip to that part, but I mean, days before, moments before?

16:52 Caller The muscles contract or there's a muscle spasm or is this normal?

16:58 Adam Is this seconds before penetration?

17:02 Caller Yeah. I mean, it's amongst foreplay and then into completion, you know?

17:11 Adam Hey, Valerie?

17:12 Caller Yeah.

17:12 Adam Are you high?

17:14 Caller No.

17:14 Adam You drink?

17:15 Drew Yeah.

17:16 Adam Something's up. Listen, you know, people instinctively deny being drunk, but it's that or retarded. So go with drunk.

17:23 Drew Or medicated.

17:24 Adam Or medicated.

17:24 Caller Medication.

17:26 Adam Oh, from the anal sex?

17:29 Caller No.

17:29 Drew So you're on Vicodin chronically, right?

17:32 Caller Excuse me?

17:32 Drew What are you taking chronically? What opiate?

17:36 Caller Oxycontin.

17:37 Drew There we go.

17:38 Adam So baby, you got bigger fish to fry than the anal stuff.

17:42 Drew It's amazing you can experience anything with all that medicine going.

17:46 Adam What's up? Let's talk about the medicine.

17:48 Caller I have a lot of...

17:50 Drew Why don't you look into getting off some of these medicines?

17:53 Caller Well, I have a very rare disorder. It's OLF, ossification of the ligamentum flavum.

18:02 Drew Yeah.

18:03 Caller The ligamentum flavum is long...

18:05 Drew Yeah, I know what ligamentum flavum is.

18:07 Caller It's all but severs my spinal cord. I've had several operations on that, but I'm more interested in my sexual activity at this point. You know, am I going to...

18:23 Drew You know what? We can't see the trees for the forest here. Unfortunately, we can't get past the more profound problem here, which is your opiate addiction. God knows what kind of reflexive problems you're getting into from the back injuries. There can be all sorts of hyperreflexia. There's something called the anal wink, Adam. I'm sure you'd appreciate this.

18:44 Adam Guy did that to me on the bus.

18:46 Drew That can be exaggerated and cause spasms.

18:48 Adam Now, you could snap a guy's penis off with that anal wink.

18:51 Drew If you have spinal stenosis, you might be getting some... Yes, believe it or not. You might be getting some exaggerated reflex back there. And you're on opiates. I mean, this is just a massive mess here. This is not...

19:02 Adam Hey, Valerie. You, because of your opiates and because of your problems physically and your operations and stuff cannot participate in anal sex, replace the term anal sex with like football or hockey. Do you know what I mean? There are certain things you just can't no longer... You can't roll or blood either.

19:23 Drew It's literally like you're calling us... You stepped on a landmine and you want us to comment on your eyeshadow or your fingernails. It just doesn't, you can't. There's a bigger thing going on here. And it's what's...

19:37 Caller Have you ever heard of OLS before?

19:39 Drew Yes, people get all kinds of thickening of the ligament and flavum after recurrent back procedures. So it's not all that uncommon. And you undoubtedly have something called spinal stenosis when you're talking dramatic terms. Yeah, your dramatic description of the spine being cut off is actually a rather common condition.

20:00 Adam All right, Valerie, no anal sex, all right?

20:02 Jerri Manthey I'm speechless.

20:03 Adam You don't have any kids, do you?

20:05 Caller I have two.

20:06 Adam No. How are they doing?

20:08 Caller So far, so good.

20:10 Adam All right, no more, right?

20:12 Caller No.

20:12 Adam All right, baby. Take care of yourself and look at that opiate addiction, all right?

20:18 Drew There are other ways to deal with the pain of spinal stenosis.

20:20 Adam There are. Listen, here's all I know from doing this show.

20:24 Jerri Manthey I always feel really good when I leave. I feel normal.

20:28 Adam Well, it's all relative, but anybody who is on, anyone who has a problem with not being able to work or not needing painkillers constantly or something, they're always crazy or maybe the painkillers makes them crazy.

20:46 Drew Painkillers does, yeah.

20:47 Adam I don't know what it is.

20:49 Drew But I treat this every day, and I can't tell you how many people are convinced that they're disabled by pain. You take them off the opiates and magically the pain goes away. The operant question is, are you an alcoholic or do you have a family history of alcoholism? If I lose to answer those questions is yes, see an addictionologist, period.

21:08 Adam All right. Because your body will create pain to be rewarded if it needs it.

21:12 Drew That's precisely what goes on.

21:13 Adam It's Peter?

21:14 Drew Yeah.

21:14 Adam You're 14?

21:15 Drew Yeah.

21:16 Adam How's your back? How's your anus?

21:19 Drew Good?

21:19 Adam Everything good? You keep it in order. It's never too young to start maintenance. Proper anal hygiene.

21:27 Drew And methadone.

21:28 Adam I started at 14. I suggest you all do. I got a kit that involves a bottle brush and a turkey base there. Oh, God.

21:37 Drew Well, and a pair of cutting shears.

21:39 Adam Oh, how dare you.

21:41 Drew How the hell did you get at it with a bottle brush?

21:43 Adam 14, please.

21:44 Drew As you said, Adam, it would be like trying to find Santa Claus' mouth.

21:50 Caller That's what you wrote.

21:52 Drew That's what you wrote his words.

21:53 Adam Please, in front of Jerri, please. Things were going so well for us. I'd already seen her nude with him halfway into the first day. Peter?

22:04 Yes.

22:04 Adam All right, go ahead.

22:05 All right, first of all, Adam, I was watching one of those old, like, Winn-Benstein's Money.

22:09 Adam Right.

22:09 How did you lose to the Juggies?

22:11 Adam Oh, I knew this was going to haunt me. This had to be the most painful experience of my life. No. Winn-Benstein's Money with Jimmy and the Juggies, and losing to the Juggies. Well, let me say this. A, we gave the Juggies a, first off, there's three Juggies. Okay, so that's three brains.

22:37 Three half-ass brains.

22:39 Adam All right. Oh, please.

22:41 I'm sorry.

22:41 Adam All right, number two, we then gave them a question at some point. And then, the question that I missed, which was, who sung the song, Oh, Alone Again Naturally? I answered Gilbert L. Sullivan. The answer was Gilbert O. Sullivan, which I've said a thousand times and never said the word Gilbert L. Sullivan, which is what your brain will do when you're on a game show. Yeah. Yeah. So screwed myself on that. And the very last question, then we were tied at the end. And the last question is, what was the capital of California? But there's a weird buzzer thing. And, you know, I hit the buzzer the second he asked the question, but they buzzed and you can't buzz in too early. You got to let them answer. You got to answer the question. I grew up in California, for Christ's sake. I know it's Tijuana. Right, you know it's Tijuana. All right. I just got screwed all the way.

23:37 Drew Peter, what's your question? We got just a minute here.

23:39 Caller I've had like pubic hair for about seven, eight months.

23:42 Drew Yeah.

23:42 And no other signs of puberty since then.

23:46 Drew Yeah, that's actually what they call pre-puberty, that the pubic hair and some of the voice change and when we get breast, butt development, that that's actually not the actual puberty. That's actually something created by your adrenal glands just before your testes turn on. So it's common.

24:01 Jerri Manthey You have a very sexy voice for a 14-year-old.

24:04 Thanks.

24:04 Adam You got that Playboy? You have the September Playboy?

24:07 Drew No, not yet.

24:08 Adam All right, we'll get that. You're 14. That's a good little starter.

24:11 Jerri Manthey I'll be on the shelf for 10 more days.

24:14 Adam Jumpstart that puberty. All right, Peter. All right, thanks. Good times.

24:18 Bye.

24:19 Adam Jerri Manthey's our guest tonight. The five or two and now the cover of Playboy, 10 more days on the newsstands. We'll take a little break. We'll be right back.

24:30 Caller Love Line, we'll be right back.

25:03 Adam Hey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Long Beach Dub All Stars are going to be in here tomorrow night. Jerri Manthey is here tonight.

25:11 Drew Hey, Jay Morin here next week.

25:12 Adam Jay Morin here next week. You know, oh.

25:14 Jerri Manthey He's funny.

25:14 Adam Slash is going to be in here next week.

25:16 Drew Oh, my God. When was the last time we saw him?

25:18 Adam Slash.

25:19 Drew Like, six years ago.

25:21 Adam I don't know. I know. You've probably seen Slash. Well, there was a time when we were seeing a lot of Slash.

25:28 Drew That was in the early TV days.

25:30 Adam Yeah. I miss that Slash. Very sweet man.

25:35 Jerri Manthey Isn't he really?

25:36 Adam Yes. Out of it and everything, but-

25:39 Jerri Manthey Does he still have all that hair?

25:40 Adam Very nice. Yeah.

25:41 Drew I'm going to drop the cigarette in his boot.

25:44 Adam Drop the lit cigarette in his boot. Didn't care either. Didn't mind. But wouldn't you call Slash like a sweet soul? Like he's a very good guy.

25:55 Drew Nice. Yeah. Nice.

25:56 Adam He's like a sort of gentle guy. It's weird in rock and roll. The other guy is just like a nice guy is Tommy Lee, believe it or not.

26:05 Jerri Manthey I met him.

26:06 Adam Very friendly. I don't know what happens when he gets loaded and gets a boner.

26:11 Jerri Manthey He put me in the bathroom at Crazy Girls.

26:13 Adam Oh, he did?

26:14 Yeah. Really?

26:15 Jerri Manthey Yeah. It was a stuff magazine party. He's going into the guy's bathroom and my best friend was like, hey, what's going on? He grabbed her arm and then she grabbed my arm and pulled me into the bathroom.

26:27 Adam Like a chain of you in there.

26:28 Jerri Manthey Yeah. I'm like, I didn't have a chance to say anything. He said, we're going to play Fireman. I go, Fireman? He's like, as he's unzipping his pants. Yeah. There's a fire in the toilet and you're going to have to put it out. I just looked at my best friend. We looked at each other like, oh my God, we both just hauled ass out of the bathroom. Blew the hell out of it.

26:48 Adam Oh, you left.

26:49 Jerri Manthey Yeah. Oh yeah.

26:49 Adam I didn't know.

26:50 Jerri Manthey I did. No. No, no, no. Nothing like that happened. No. He came out and he kissed his both on the cheek. That's my Tommy Lee story.

27:00 Adam So that's the move, Fireman.

27:03 Jerri Manthey It's a great line, I guess.

27:04 Drew I'm not sure it would work with you, Adam though.

27:06 Jerri Manthey It probably works with some girls.

27:07 Drew It needs to be a hose.

27:08 Let's play Kazoo.

27:11 Jerri Manthey No. No. How well do you guys know each other?

27:16 Adam We've seen each other's junk. We travel a lot in a lot of those airport bathrooms.

27:22 Jerri Manthey Take a lot of showers together, do you?

27:24 Drew Airport bathrooms without dividers.

27:26 Adam Right.

27:26 Jerri Manthey See, I always forget about that. Guys have that whole thing going on. Do you check out of the guys when you're in the guys' bathroom?

27:33 Caller You have to.

27:34 Adam It's that or your own. It's weird. I mean, look.

27:38 Jerri Manthey You compare.

27:38 Adam Well, here's the deal. Drew, as a doctor, you might be able to answer this. But don't you have to examine other people's genitalia when it's put in front of you?

27:51 Drew Yeah, that's my job.

27:52 Adam That's your job?

27:53 Drew Yeah.

27:53 Adam No, I don't mean grab it. I don't grab it. When a bunch of guys got their dorks out, you got to look. You just almost have to. There's a human component there.

28:02 Jerri Manthey I guess girls do that too with each other's breasts.

28:04 Adam Yeah. You almost have to. The thing is, is women complain a lot about waiting in line to get to the bathroom.

28:11 Jerri Manthey Oh, it sucks.

28:12 Adam Right. Because you get to go to the bathroom like human beings, where we go in this sort of communal trough like animals.

28:18 Drew We got to trot knee to knee in a trough.

28:22 Adam Very funny.

28:22 Jerri Manthey I mean, here's the bottom line. I think that must cause a lot of problems when you're going through puberty as a kid in school. Is that just horrifying?

28:31 Adam Well, there's a couple of things that are horrifying. When you go to like the ball game and there's a line of guys and what will happen is there will be a whole line of troughs all the way down the wall, maybe 25 of them.

28:42 Drew You mean the latrines or just the troughs?

28:45 Adam Well, there's both. But let's say the urinals. A whole line of urinals going all the way across the wall. And people line up like they line up at the ATM. You know that little five, six foot buffer zone they give you to take care of business? That's the same. I'd like to do some research on this, but I think it's the exact same buffer zone they give you at the ATM. I think humans' minds have been encrypted and encoded with that.

29:09 Jerri Manthey The pin code protection zone.

29:11 Adam It's a zone between anything closer than four feet is a little hot, and anything long of six foot, someone may slide in front of you. Right. So somewhere between somewhere right about five, five, six. If you took an average guy and laid him down with his feet against the tile floor, you'd stand about his head is where you'd stand.

29:30 Jerri Manthey That's a lovely thought.

29:31 Adam Then guys line up behind that guy. So you're whizzing and you're feeling like you got the North America standing behind you, and they're all going to explode, and they're usually drunk, and they're at a ball game and you get there, hey, let's go.

29:46 Drew Hey.

29:49 Adam I don't know what a good urethant is.

29:51 Caller Sosa's coming up in three, every hitter. Right.

29:53 Adam So you just stand there whizzing, and sometimes when everything lines up perfectly, and the conditions are just so, you'll feel a little spray from the guy in the one next to you.

30:07 Jerri Manthey Oh, God.

30:08 Drew That's pretty routine, I'd say.

30:10 Adam It's routine.

30:10 I mean, think about it.

30:11 Adam You're firing a stream of urine that's coming out of about 55 PSI into the back of a porcelain handball cord, essentially. And of course, there's going to be a mist. And you line up 25 guys there, and they're all going at the same time.

30:28 Drew Or you're actually in a trough, which is full of water that's splashing too.

30:32 Adam Right.

30:32 Jerri Manthey Oh, my God. It's a good thing there's not a breeze in there.

30:35 Oh, yeah.

30:37 Adam Yeah. So anyway, you women, you have to wait, but you're waiting on your dignity.

30:41 Jerri Manthey But it's not like we go in there and sit. We can't sit. The urinal area is probably completely soaked with pee.

30:49 Adam Here's what I would like to say to the ladies. I would say, look, here is a design concept. I'm going to put a huge pit in the middle of the room, a circular pit. There'll be little seat rests with holes in them, back to back to back to back. It'll look like a daisy from up above. And we'll be able to fit 28 of you per pit in there to go simultaneously. Now, there'll be no waiting in line anymore.

31:14 Drew No dividers.

31:15 Adam But there's going to be a little spray and you're going to be getting hassled while you're going. You want to go for that or you want to get in line? You get in line.

31:23 Jerri Manthey I'd like to see a design plan on that one.

31:25 Adam The Corolla Daisy.

31:29 Jerri Manthey You might have something there.

31:31 Adam All right.

31:31 Jerri Manthey Some fine tuning.

31:32 Adam Kirsten? Yeah. You're 21. What's up?

31:37 Caller All right. First of all, I'm sure you all know you're rocking all pretty well-hung, I'm sure.

31:42 Adam Thank you. Thank you.

31:45 Caller I've been dating this girl for about a month and a half now. I'm just going to tell you she's in France. I don't have anything to do with it. However, here's the deal. We were going out at first and everything was all wuvy-dovey, and we got intimate and all that stuff. Now, a month and a half later, it's kind of like, well, she doesn't want to have sex anymore, but she wants to make out all the time and pretty much do most of the other stuff.

32:08 Drew How old did you say she was?

32:10 Caller Twenty-six. And I know she's clinically depressed and stuff, and she's on, I think, Prozac and she goes to see a therapist like every Monday morning and whatnot.

32:19 Drew Well, maybe the medication is shutting her down a bit.

32:23 Caller Well, she's been on it for quite a while. And here's another thing is that she can't, she never had a long-term relationship, and I mean more than a month, because she just for some reason can't do it. And we went out a month and a half, and so she said to me the other night, she doesn't know whether she's going out with me because to be selfish for her so that she can prove to herself that she can do it, or whether it's because she still likes me. Oh boy.

32:45 Jerri Manthey Are you making her feel comfortable? Are you like trying to help ease her comfort level in sex?

32:52 Caller Yeah, I mean totally. We're, you know, it's all mutual and everything like that. And I mean, if she doesn't want to, I'm like fine. And she said she didn't want to, so I haven't really.

33:00 Drew Where did she develop this intense fear of abandonment?

33:03 Caller Well, I do know that her father left her when she was four, but she grew up with her brother and her mom, and her mom remarried and everything like that. So it wasn't like she didn't have a father figure.

33:14 Drew And what was that guy like?

33:15 Caller Oh, he was, she said he was, you know, real nice. She still wasn't to this day and everything like that. But she says how it's, you know, not her real father. So she's not.

33:23 Drew So she's a real, real involved with this abandonment issue with her dad.

33:28 Caller Well, she can't figure it out. She just says she can't really trust anybody. And I said to her, well, you know, if it's somewhere I could help you work it out, I said, I'm going to, you know, I'm willing to go ahead and do that. She says, well, it's something I need to do by myself and all that. Yada, yada, yada, but, you know.

33:44 Drew Yeah, you may be operating in a field that you don't really understand here. This is someone that has profound attachment issues, profound abandonment issues, and really may not be able to have a sustained intimate relationship. And she is bound determined to sabotage anything that gets near that. This is what her therapy is going to be. It's establishing a relationship.

34:04 Jerri Manthey Maybe she just doesn't want to be with you anymore and she doesn't know how to say it.

34:08 Adam She's starting to say it.

34:10 Drew Yeah.

34:11 Caller Well, we're both really honest and I just said to her flat out that she said no, no, no, no, no, not at all. She said, I just don't know what's going on. I can't figure out myself. That's what she said.

34:21 Adam Hey, Kirsten? Yeah. Let me give you some sage advice here. All right. This is going to be a long uphill battle with this one. You are going to, your hair is going to go gray 21 over this. I'm telling you, the deeper you get in, the more painful it's going to get because she may be this way for years.

34:43 Drew Yeah. The more she's going to push back.

34:45 Adam The nicer and more helpful you are, the more she may push you away.

34:49 Drew Yeah. The next move will be to sleep with a male stripper or something.

34:54 Adam Right. Your strategy of trying to be helpful and extend the olive branch tours, it was the same strategy that would work with a polar bear. Really, just take your head off. Yeah. You got to jump around and try to scare her. But the same with bears. That's how you have to treat women. You have to make a lot of noise. You turn around and run, they chase you down and eat you.

35:15 Jerri Manthey If you were to say to her, look, you need time by yourself to figure it out and legitimately walk in the opposite direction, she'll probably come.

35:24 Caller I mean, is that going to end things or is that going to make her?

35:26 Jerri Manthey It would probably make her come back, honestly. And I mean, you have to be willing to take that risk.

35:32 Drew So do your only move, really.

35:33 Adam It is your only move. You really, you got to make this move.

35:37 Drew I'm not so sure he can make that dance work. She needs that guy to make a relationship.

35:41 Adam Well, the unfortunate thing about that move is you got to actually mean it. It's a risk. Or sell it.

35:46 Drew Yeah, but see, I think she needs to be with an abandoning guy. That's the only way she's going to be comfortable. A guy who's not truly abandoning is not going to do it for her.

35:53 Adam She's going to feel out of control. First off, 21 and secondly named Kirsten, you are in no position to handle this. Hey, you know, my parents did that to me.

36:03 Caller I got nothing to do with it.

36:04 Adam I know.

36:05 Caller No.

36:07 Adam Johnny Cash wrote a song about a boy named Kirsten. Oh, Sue. Look, at 21, you are so ill-equipped to deal with this.

36:17 Drew Yeah, but you're never supposed to be somebody's therapist. That's not a romantic relationship.

36:23 Adam No, but we all remember coming up with strategies to try to save relationships and plans.

36:29 Drew Men do that.

36:29 Jerri Manthey I think women do.

36:30 Adam Women do, too.

36:30 Jerri Manthey Women just hope that we can change them.

36:32 Drew Yeah. Men have like a war room. Men have a plan with a manual that goes with it. Women are just trying to hang on.

36:40 Adam Right. That's why they call it a manual, not a bitual. Well, that's what I mean, a chickual. Girlual. It's a manual because we got a plan. It never works. I had a plan at 21 and it did not work. I'm still, I'm biding my time though. I'm going to implement it soon.

36:59 Drew You're still trying to find your dignity.

37:00 Jerri Manthey I was divorced at 21.

37:02 Adam Were you really?

37:02 Jerri Manthey Yeah. I got married at 19. High school sweetheart.

37:07 Drew Where did you go to high school?

37:08 Jerri Manthey Bad move. Germany.

37:09 Drew Germany. That's where you were military.

37:11 Jerri Manthey Army brand.

37:13 Drew Yeah. But that makes sense.

37:14 Adam English guy or German guy?

37:16 Drew You're trying to find roots because you're moving around.

37:18 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

37:19 Adam Is it a German guy or English guy?

37:20 Jerri Manthey No, it was an American guy in my high school.

37:23 Caller An American guy.

37:24 Adam English speaking.

37:25 Caller British guy.

37:26 Adam All right.

37:27 Jerri Manthey From my high school in Germany.

37:31 Adam Dated him all through high school?

37:32 Jerri Manthey Dated him junior year. That was it. Then he moved away and I stayed behind and went to college and put on tons of weight and felt insecure and he took me back and I married him.

37:44 Adam Why did it break up so fast?

37:46 Jerri Manthey Because at some point I was like, wait a minute, I'm still a kid.

37:50 Drew That was acting out. That was acting out trying to find.

37:52 Jerri Manthey Yeah. I wanted some security.

37:54 Drew Because she's moving around so much.

37:56 Adam Maybe like, I'm trying to think what country does it, like Israel with the military. Maybe everyone should be forced to get married at 19 in this country.

38:05 What's my dad doing in Israel?

38:06 Adam And then divorce, and then divorce at 21, but no kids. You know what I mean? Just kind of take it more seriously, get it out of their system.

38:14 Jerri Manthey Yeah, you do. You learn that it's not something you should set up as a goal in your life. Yeah, it's not a goal in your life to be married.

38:21 Drew You know what? Women have that as a goal. Men come onto it later.

38:26 Jerri Manthey I don't think women should have it as a goal. I mean, I think they should.

38:29 Adam You're not dying to get married now, right? I got to find myself one of those chicks. Who does when they're married. Have you ever done that when you were dating? Drew, you dated a few women in your day. You dated the ones who were dying to get married.

38:44 Drew Yeah.

38:44 Adam But did you ever date one that had been married?

38:47 Drew No.

38:47 Adam Didn't work out.

38:48 Drew I had plenty that said they weren't dying to get married.

38:50 Adam But they all are. No, it's not true. I'm not dying to get married. No, not you. You. I want you. I'm open. I want you. I'm like Uncle Sam. I want you. Because you got out of your system, we could kick around, you could watch me fly my model airplanes and complain about the government for a while, watch TV for about eight years, and then we could get married.

39:13 Jerri Manthey I don't watch TV. It would never work.

39:15 Adam No, no, no. You watch me.

39:17 Caller Watch TV?

39:19 Jerri Manthey Let me guess. I'd be cracking open your beers and making you popcorn, right? I would.

39:24 Adam I would make myself. I can open the beer. I'm just going to need someone to bring it to me. If it's a twist stop, I shouldn't have any problem with you bring a towel. I don't want to hurt my hand.

39:33 Jerri Manthey Oh, no.

39:35 Adam Jerri Manthey is our guest tonight. She's from Playboy and of course, Survivor 2. We'll take a little break. We'll be right back.

39:44 Caller Tyra Banks had a crush on one of you.

39:46 Adam Yeah.

39:46 Caller Who was that?

39:47 Adam It was Drew. Tyra came in to the radio show and she had a little upset stomach, maybe even more. Right, Drew? Yeah, she really had a problem down there. And so Drew immediately said unbutton your pants.

40:06 Drew It wasn't quite that quick.

40:07 Adam But you did tell her to unbutton her pants, right?

40:09 Drew I examined her, yeah.

40:11 Caller Loveline, be right back in a minute.

40:36 This is Tommy and Pamela Lee. And you're listening to Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. All the sexual information you could possibly need.

40:45 Yeah.

40:47 Yeah.

40:48 Adam Hey, Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Drew, phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Long Beach Dub All Stars in here tomorrow night. Jerry Manthe in here tonight from Survivor 2, and of course, Playboy. She's on the cover. It's on newsstands now. 10 more days there, fellas.

41:05 Jerri Manthey They're selling quick.

41:07 Adam Yeah, I could imagine. Do you have any sales totals or anything like that?

41:13 Jerri Manthey Not yet, but I am waiting for the big number.

41:17 Drew Does that mean something?

41:18 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

41:19 Drew Do you reimburse more based on sales?

41:22 Jerri Manthey Yeah, I work to deal.

41:23 Drew There's bonuses.

41:23 Jerri Manthey I negotiated with them. Bonuses.

41:25 Adam Now, do they have certain plateaus, over a million copies, over two million copies, or whatever it is? Try to exceed those?

41:35 Jerri Manthey I just, I'm trying to sell over a million copies. That's what I would like. Is that the deal? Yeah, because it's, very rarely does it happen, and I just kind of hope that that does happen.

41:44 Adam It'd be nice. So, they have their subscribers, and then there's a million newsstand.

41:49 Jerri Manthey Yeah, something like that.

41:50 Adam Is what they try to do. And so, it's actually a good thing to work into everything, because not only does it make more money for them, but it makes more money for whoever's in it.

42:00 Jerri Manthey Right.

42:01 Adam And it sort of forces the hand a little of the people to come on shows like this and pimp it out a little bit, right?

42:09 Jerri Manthey I'm here because I like being here.

42:11 Adam Oh, thank you.

42:11 Jerri Manthey And that's the truth. I had a really good time the first time I was here.

42:14 Adam But... Oh!

42:18 Jerri Manthey Don't forget to tape your waitresses.

42:21 Adam Flashback to the conversation with the publicist ten years, ten days ago. Who? Oh, that's right, Drew and the doctor. Yeah, I didn't care for the nappy-headed guy, but Adam was okay. Jason? Oh, wait a minute.

42:40 Jerri Manthey This is great coffee.

42:42 Adam Jason? Oh, really? You got low self-esteem. Jason, you're 17. What's up?

42:48 Caller I'm 17 and I'm bi, and I've had a little bit of a troubled past. I'm thinking maybe you can guys tell me how I got this way.

42:59 Drew I didn't even get what... That was so fragmented, I didn't quite get it.

43:02 Caller He's bisexual.

43:03 Drew You're bisexual. What do you mean by troubled past? What does that mean?

43:06 Caller Oh, I had a lot of people always... I had no self-esteem for the first 14 years of my life.

43:14 Drew Well... That doesn't make you bi. Yeah, a lot of people have that. Adam and I still have that. 43 years, no self-esteem.

43:21 Adam What do you mean? I think I'm king of the world.

43:23 Drew I'm compensation.

43:24 Adam Oh, okay, yeah, you're right.

43:27 Drew So Jason, what happened to you?

43:30 Caller Well, you know, I lived in a town that was completely isolated from everything else in the entire world. So they...

43:39 Adam I see.

43:39 Drew Some people might enjoy that.

43:40 Adam So everyone in Alaska is gay or high or...

43:43 Caller It was Pennsylvania.

43:44 Drew I don't know... That's where you started out, Adam. Pennsylvania? I'm frightened. It's not... I don't want to know...

43:50 Adam I don't believe him. Well... I don't believe him.

43:52 Drew Which part? I think his thinking is off. I don't want to know... I don't want to figure anything else out. I don't want to know anything. I'm not fishing. I just want to know what your past was like. Don't try to attach some meaning to it. I just want to know what it was like. What happened?

44:07 Caller All right. A lot of, you know, peers brought me down a lot.

44:13 Drew Okay. So at school, you were sort of made fun of and that sort of thing.

44:16 Caller Yes.

44:16 Drew And, you know, what happened at home that they didn't give you kind of the support you needed to develop a sense of yourself?

44:22 Caller I was adopted into like an elderly family.

44:25 Drew How old were you when you were adopted?

44:26 Caller Five.

44:27 Drew Okay. What happened to your biological parents?

44:29 Caller Never knew them.

44:30 Drew Well, you were five. I mean, my kids knew me by five.

44:34 Adam Stayed at the hospital until you were five?

44:36 Caller Well, yeah. Not in the hospital, you know, like around.

44:38 Drew You were in foster care, foster care. So they send you out of the, okay, that'll do it. Did something happen to you in foster care?

44:46 Caller No, you know, just that, you know, I never really liked the people because they were either either drinkers or, you know.

44:55 Drew All right, Jason, did you hear us talking earlier to that guy whose girlfriend was always sort of pushing him away and had trouble? Do you have that kind of thing where you can't stay in a relationship very long, have troubles trusting people? Or if you do get involved, it's really intense and over involved?

45:08 Caller Well, yeah, yeah. Well, except that I'm like, I need the, I need a relationship like I need like drugs.

45:14 Drew You can't be alone.

45:15 Caller Yeah.

45:15 Drew Yeah. And that is, that's not so much about not having a self-esteem. That's really not having a self. That's really not understanding who you are, right?

45:23 Adam All right, so are you uncomfortable being bi?

45:26 Drew No, no, no. Forget. No, no. No, no, no. He's bi because he doesn't know what he is. Oh, listen. Listen, please. How dare you?

45:33 Adam No, no, no, me. Just shut up over there.

45:35 Drew You shut up.

45:36 Adam Shut his mic off. Please.

45:36 Drew I was getting somewhere with this kid.

45:38 Adam Oh, you weren't getting anywhere. Oh, no.

45:40 Jerri Manthey It sounds like you just need to spend some time alone and be happy.

45:44 Drew He can't do it. He can't. He's too empty. But what he needs to be able to do-

45:48 Jerri Manthey Be alone without being alone.

45:49 Drew He needs to find some people he trusts who are really healthy adults and spend time with them and really learn to trust them and have stable relationships over time. You're going to act in all kinds of strange ways to push them away and make them react and create drama. If they really understand what's going on with you, they'll just stay present and help you work through some of that stuff. But that's what you need now. You're bi because you're non-sexual, you're everysexual, you're whatever.

46:16 Adam He doesn't know what he is.

46:18 Drew That's the point.

46:18 Adam No, he's agreeing with you.

46:20 Drew No, no, no.

46:21 Adam Jason.

46:21 Caller Yes.

46:22 Adam Do you have a boyfriend?

46:24 Caller I'm breaking up with him.

46:26 Adam Okay. And you've had girlfriends in the past? And you're comfortable with this?

46:31 Caller Yeah.

46:31 Adam All right. Good. Do what Drew said.

46:33 Drew This isn't about your sexuality. It's about yourself.

46:35 Adam Well, it never is. It never is, of course.

46:38 Drew No, but this is, I mean, think of it, that is a profound history. You never know who your parents are, foster parents that are alcoholics, and then adopt an elderly family doesn't connect with. It's just, that's just.

46:49 Jerri Manthey No stability.

46:51 Drew No connection. That's the thing. You relate because you didn't have the stability thing.

46:54 Jerri Manthey I had my family, though.

46:55 Drew You had connection, right?

46:56 Jerri Manthey Thank God I had my family.

46:58 Drew You had the connection piece. He didn't even have that.

46:59 Caller Ooh.

47:01 Jerri Manthey Yeah, that, yeah, I can't imagine what it would be like.

47:03 Adam What rank was your dad?

47:05 Jerri Manthey He made it all the way to command sergeant major, which is the highest NCO you can be.

47:09 Adam That's like three titles. I mean, command sergeant major.

47:14 Drew Was he like the guys we had in here the other day that the drill?

47:17 Adam The guys from drill team or boot camp or whatever.

47:20 Caller You got another question, weirdo? Hurry up.

47:23 Hurry up.

47:24 Caller Get it out of my face right now.

47:26 Push, push, push, you nasty thing.

47:28 We want to puke.

47:30 Drew Those are the guys from boot camp.

47:32 Jerri Manthey Oh, God, really? Yeah, no, that's not my dad.

47:36 Adam That's not what dinner was like when he asked you to pass the potato.

47:39 Jerri Manthey No, my dad was so good at leaving work at work. He never brought it home, and to this day, I thank him for that.

47:45 Adam All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. I want to apologize to Anderson, because I've got to fix that clock up there, Drew. Yeah, we'll be back.

47:55 Drew Hello? Is this Loveline?

47:57 Caller Call 1-800-LOVE-191. Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back.

48:42 Adam Hey, everybody.

48:42 Drew What's up with our air staff?

48:45 Jerri Manthey They're having fun.

48:47 Drew They're high on speed or something.

48:50 Adam Anderson's doing the two-handed cup on the cans and bopping his head like a bobblehead doll back. Hey, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Jerri Manthey is here from Survivor 2 and now from Playboy as well. She's on the cover, so you'll know which one to get. It's on the newsstands for just a few more days, so you definitely want to go get that. We got to get to that million plateau.

49:16 Drew Sales?

49:16 Adam Million sales plateau.

49:17 Drew Is that the number?

49:18 Adam Yeah, the newsstand.

49:19 Drew So go out and buy 12 dozen copies.

49:21 Jerri Manthey Yeah, buy them for all your friends and then show up wherever I am next and have me sign up.

49:26 Adam That's right.

49:27 Jerri Manthey There's one guy out there that's out there everywhere I go. God bless him. He brings like five issues every time.

49:33 Adam Yeah, the sploozers. They didn't go over so well when I ran into them out there.

49:38 Jerri Manthey I know.

49:39 Drew Did they give you any grief?

49:40 Jerri Manthey They're good guys.

49:40 Adam Yeah, who brought the sploozers thing right up? April?

49:43 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

49:44 Adam Hey, you're 21.

49:45 Caller Hi.

49:45 Adam What's up?

49:46 Caller Nothing. What's up with you?

49:47 Adam Nothing.

49:48 Caller Okay. I have a friend on Thursday who is coming out of rehab. He's an alcoholic and we've been through lots of stuff within the past year and a half. And I've seen him at his highest highs and his lowest lows. And he's getting out Thursday. And I really don't know if it's going to be a permanent change. And I don't know how to help him so that it will be.

50:09 Drew How long was he inpatient for?

50:12 Caller 30 days.

50:13 Drew And when you describe these high highs, is he bipolar also?

50:17 Caller I don't know.

50:19 Drew Is alcohol his only drug?

50:20 Adam Yeah. Is 30 days a long time for an alcoholic?

50:24 Drew No.

50:25 Adam Is that about average?

50:26 Drew That's what really, frankly, anyone that's sick enough to need inpatient treatment needs 28 days. No one gets it anymore, but they'd be greatly benefited if they can get it.

50:35 Adam What about Ben Affleck? Do you think that's Bose?

50:38 Drew Do I think he's, what? His dad's a CD counselor.

50:41 Adam His dad is? Yeah.

50:41 Drew And it's interestingly, What's CD? Chemical dependency.

50:44 Adam Nice.

50:45 Drew And kids that come from parents who have a strong recovery program have far less consequence before they get into treatment.

50:53 Adam So, they get in earlier?

50:54 Drew They get in real early. They have trouble usually. They fall a couple of times because they're not so motivated by the consequences.

51:00 Adam Right.

51:00 Drew But then when they get it, they get it good and it stays. So, I bet he's going to follow that pattern.

51:04 Adam You think Bose, though?

51:06 Drew I have no idea.

51:06 Adam Maybe it's one of those fans.

51:07 He's a nice guy.

51:08 Drew He's a really nice guy.

51:09 Adam Oh, he's a dear, dear friend. No, I've never met him, but I always, you know, when I see young guys who, for some reason, even though I've only seen them on entertainment tonight in their movies, I'll decide whether it's Bose or Coke. I usually err on the side of Coke. I don't know why.

51:24 Drew I don't think so with him. I think it's just alcohol.

51:27 Adam No, I think it's something else. I don't know. Someone floated that theory the other day, and I sort of agree with it.

51:32 Drew Well, listen, these days, a young person, I don't know anything about his case, but a young person coming to treatment, it's relative, and you usually have a young person coming for straight alcohol. Yeah, because there's so many other drugs that take young people down fast.

51:45 Adam Right.

51:45 Drew That's just the way it is these days.

51:47 Adam Yeah. Booze, you go the Mickey Rourke route. You know what I mean?

51:51 Drew Maybe you keep it together longer.

51:52 Adam Yeah, in your 70s, you go in and look into rehab.

51:54 Just look into it.

51:56 Adam Oh, God. April?

51:57 Caller Yeah.

51:58 Adam All right. So do you like this guy?

52:01 Caller Yeah.

52:02 Adam I see. And does he like you?

52:05 Caller We've talked about it, but we know it's not the smartest thing, and I know that it's...

52:09 Drew Why isn't it a smart thing?

52:10 Adam We know or he knows.

52:11 Drew Yeah. Why isn't it a smart thing?

52:13 Caller Because he's... I believe that since he's not stable, how can he be stable in a relationship?

52:19 Drew Well...

52:20 Adam But wait a minute. Who's putting the kibosh on the relationship? You or him?

52:25 Caller I am.

52:26 Drew All right. Well, that's that.

52:26 Adam He would like a relationship with you.

52:28 Caller Right.

52:29 Adam And you like him, but you're not going to go forward with it.

52:33 Caller Right.

52:34 Adam Really? That sounds... I know you're a woman and you got your wits about you, but at 21, aren't you going to really like a guy?

52:42 Jerri Manthey She sounds smart to me.

52:44 Drew Why didn't you go participate in his treatment?

52:47 Caller Why didn't I what?

52:48 Drew Participate in his treatment.

52:50 Caller Well, it was more of his parents' thing. I talked to his mom the other day and finding out that he was getting out, and I participate and I listen to him and whatnot.

53:01 Drew No, no. Participating means you go... If you're going to maintain a relationship with him, you have to have treatment, too. That's requisite.

53:08 Adam What do you mean, treatment, too?

53:09 Drew The person involved with an addict, the addict, in order for them to change, can't remain the same person they are in their relationship. The other has to change and grow also.

53:19 Adam They don't have a relationship. They're just friends.

53:21 Drew Yeah, but if she's going to have one, she needs to participate.

53:23 Jerri Manthey Did you say when a man loves a woman?

53:25 Adam Uh, no. I'd stay away with the movies about love and woman and man.

53:30 Jerri Manthey This is a good movie.

53:31 Caller I know what you're saying, Jerri.

53:33 Adam I rented When a Man Tried Humps a Woman.

53:37 Drew Is that a new title?

53:37 Jerri Manthey You starred in it. What are you talking about?

53:39 Adam Thank you. Hey. I told my agent I want to get in the features and that's how it was done.

53:48 Jerri Manthey What did you make for that one, Eddie?

53:50 Adam April. All the craft service I could carry. Look, you like the guy, right? You don't trust the guy. Has he broken your heart before?

54:00 Caller No, not now.

54:02 Adam Why are you so, and I don't really mean this in a bad way, although it sounds bad, why are you so ultra responsible? I mean, you're 21, you like this dude, how come nothing's happened?

54:13 Jerri Manthey Too smart.

54:15 Caller Yeah, I mean, he's because I've seen him with girls. I mean, I've known him for a year and a half. He's been in relationships while we've been friends and I know that I don't deserve to be treated that way.

54:25 Jerri Manthey Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's easier to be someone's friend like that.

54:31 Adam Are you sure he likes you?

54:33 Caller Yeah, he, yeah.

54:34 Adam Do you not trust the fact that he likes you?

54:37 Jerri Manthey No, she's seen what he does to other girls.

54:39 Adam Yeah, I don't buy it.

54:40 Drew Don't buy it.

54:41 Caller He's very suave with his words. He knows what we like to hear.

54:45 Jerri Manthey He's suave and charming.

54:46 Adam See, I'm hearing from April that he's sort of played her a little bit.

54:50 Drew To BS her, yeah.

54:51 Caller Yeah. Oh yeah, definitely.

54:52 Adam Yeah, okay.

54:54 Caller That's what I've learned from him, from alcoholics too, because I mean, I've...

54:58 Adam All right, so why are you hanging out? I mean, you're friends with him, but you like him is why you're spending time with him.

55:03 Jerri Manthey You're not having sex with him, are you?

55:04 Caller No, no, no.

55:05 Jerri Manthey Okay.

55:06 Adam All right.

55:06 Jerri Manthey Yeah, don't do that to yourself.

55:08 Caller No, no, no.

55:08 Adam All right. All right, enjoy.

55:10 Drew I mean, I don't have the answers. All you can do is support his recovery.

55:14 Caller Yeah.

55:14 Drew Here's the basic theory, basic philosophy. Support him when he's going to meetings, doing what he's supposed to do. When he isn't doing that, you should check out of his life, period.

55:22 Adam I think he jacked her over a few times.

55:24 Drew A few times.

55:25 Adam I think she was into him, made it clear.

55:27 Jerri Manthey Probably.

55:27 Adam He was loaded and chasing other skirts around.

55:30 Jerri Manthey She learned her lesson before she went there.

55:32 Adam But she's still into him enough to want to hang out. She just wants to make sure he's a new man.

55:35 Jerri Manthey Maybe she just wants to be his friend.

55:37 Adam No.

55:38 Jerri Manthey She's into him. I think, so what? It's okay. It's okay to be attracted to your friends. It just adds an extra element to it.

55:45 Caller David?

55:46 Yeah.

55:46 Adam You're 19?

55:47 Caller Yeah.

55:47 Adam What's up?

55:49 Caller See, I had a girlfriend for about six months, and she was my first person I had sex with. She had been much more experienced than I had before. And then, let's see, just about half a month ago, she thought, or actually a month and a half ago, she thought that she might be pregnant. And then it went back to, we found out a week later, she wasn't, she was just about a week late. She took a pregnancy test, and it said that she was pregnant. It took one next day, and it said she wasn't. And we were really worried about everything. And then we ended up breaking up about a week ago, and we realized, or I realized, that the relationship wasn't healthy. With everything, we'd like spend like every single minute with each other, for like the whole time. It just, the relationship wasn't right. We want to try to still, I want to try to still be friends because I was able to tell her things, and she was able to tell me things that we've never been able to tell anyone before in our whole lives. We had a big deal with that, and then I hung out with her.

56:45 Drew Like what? What does that mean? What are those things?

56:48 Caller Just like things that we dealt with in our lives that like no one else in our life, we've never been able to tell anyone else. Like she's gone to a psychologist and stuff for like past like three or four years to talk about this stuff, but I'd never been able to tell anyone about it just because it was really hard for me.

57:03 Adam I get it. So you're saying the things that you were able to talk about, that you weren't able to talk about with other people.

57:08 Drew Yeah, you were never able to talk about. The things you were never able to talk about.

57:11 Adam So those were the things you didn't talk about with other people.

57:12 Jerri Manthey I can't talk about that.

57:13 Adam You can't talk about the things you were never able to talk about.

57:16 Caller I don't really trust everything like that.

57:17 Adam I see.

57:18 Caller I don't want that to go away and I want to still really be friends with them.

57:21 Adam Now I know exactly what they all want.

57:23 Caller Okay, I hung out with her the first time last week and she wanted to have sex with me. And I said that I couldn't just because I wanted to try to be friends and that would not work out. And she said that it wouldn't mean anything to her.

57:38 Drew Well, that's BS.

57:39 Jerri Manthey Ouch! That's not very nice.

57:42 Caller But, I mean...

57:43 Drew By the way, you can say that to a guy. Guys, guys, don't look at that as a question. Yeah, that's a positive to a guy.

57:46 Adam Oh, really? Yeah. You're turning me on.

57:50 Drew But that's BS.

57:51 Caller How could I hang out with her and not like if she keeps on trying to like push things at me, how can I hang out with her and still try to like...

58:01 Drew I can't quite... First of all, I can't figure out why you are breaking this relationship up because... Give me a sentence. Breaking up because...

58:08 Caller We were... She or like we both were like too dependent on each other.

58:11 Drew So why not balance the relationship with other aspects of your life but maintain your relationship? Why go from enmeshed to broken?

58:21 Caller I don't know. I guess there was...

58:23 Jerri Manthey A pin drops.

58:24 Adam Yeah.

58:26 Drew What? Isn't that a viable question?

58:27 Adam Yeah, it is.

58:27 Jerri Manthey That's a great question.

58:28 Adam And...

58:29 Jerri Manthey Why does it have to be all or nothing?

58:30 Adam I don't understand. Exceptional eloquent for you too, Drew. Hey, David.

58:35 Caller Yeah.

58:35 Adam Are you... You're just not into her anymore, right?

58:38 Drew No, no.

58:38 Caller I'm very, very into her.

58:39 Adam Or...

58:40 Drew Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

58:41 Adam Listen, I don't got time for all this teenage angst. Just go.

58:44 Drew What the hell do you think the show is about? For God sakes. Listen.

58:46 Adam It's about me and my anxiousness.

58:48 Drew I know. You had plenty of time to talk tonight.

58:50 Jerri Manthey It's about finding Santa Claus' mouth.

58:52 Drew Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I stayed with that one.

58:55 Jerri Manthey I was affected by that.

58:57 Drew David. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Do you just have kind of an uncomfortable instinct that this isn't right for you? Yeah. Okay. All right. That's enough. Then you end it.

59:05 Jerri Manthey That's a good reason to end it.

59:07 Drew There's something up about her. You can't see it because you're in right now, but it isn't right, and that's fine.

59:12 Adam Okay. Not that into her. That's it. I mean, as a girlfriend, you're not into her.

59:16 Drew He feels he's...

59:18 Caller Is there any way to hang out with her now?

59:19 Drew No, six months. Six months later.

59:20 Jerri Manthey Yeah, you need time.

59:21 Caller There's no way.

59:22 Drew No. It sounds like she's somebody that really has a lot of drama in her life, and she's gonna come in and pull you into her web one way or another, stay away for a while.

59:30 Adam And you know what can happen? You can swear up and down that you're not going to have a physical relationship. She can prime you up with a few beers and give you a BJ. And then where would you be? You know what I mean?

59:42 Drew Disaster.

59:42 Adam Feeling dirty.

59:43 Jerri Manthey It's all over at that point.

59:45 Drew Never again. It's like you after masturbating.

59:48 Adam You're taking those long baths, feeling like you can't get clean, swearing never again.

59:54 Jerri Manthey Using an SOS pen.

59:55 Caller That's right.

59:59 Adam I might hold bodies like an SOS pen.

1:00:02 Caller Sexy.

1:00:02 Adam Amy, I don't know what it turns you on to. Amy, you're 27.

1:00:06 Caller Yes.

1:00:06 Adam What's up?

1:00:11 Well, I've been dating this guy for a year. And from the very beginning, it's been constant. I mean, we're always finding new ways and strange ways.

1:00:27 Jerri Manthey Do you have sex?

1:00:27 Of having sex. Oh, that's good. And is there such thing as having too much?

1:00:33 Jerri Manthey No.

1:00:34 Drew If you hurt yourself. Are you harming yourselves?

1:00:38 Caller No, I don't think so.

1:00:39 Drew Are you unable to engage productively in your life otherwise? Are we on the radio?

1:00:45 Jerri Manthey Are you missing work?

1:00:47 No, I'm not missing work.

1:00:49 Adam What is your question, Amy?

1:00:52 Drew You're scaring yourself, huh?

1:00:55 I'm just, I've never, I was married before and it was, I wasn't like this.

1:01:00 Jerri Manthey That's why you're not married anymore.

1:01:02 Right.

1:01:03 And, well, I mean, I don't know, I just, I wasn't that in, I mean, I didn't really enjoy it.

1:01:09 Adam All right, how old is this guy?

1:01:12 Drew And now you do enjoy it?

1:01:14 Yes.

1:01:14 Jerri Manthey Good for you. That sounds healthy.

1:01:16 Drew Just, just, just to get the details worked out here, you guys aren't doing drugs or alcohol together when you're doing this?

1:01:22 Caller No.

1:01:23 Adam All right. You had good times. Enjoy yourself.

1:01:25 Jerri Manthey All I can say is congratulations.

1:01:30 Adam And women change. I mean, Jerri, you're more into sex now at 30 than you were at 19, right? Is that correct?

1:01:39 Drew Please. Adam?

1:01:42 Jerri Manthey You know what? I've always been a very sexual person.

1:01:43 Adam Oh, really?

1:01:44 Jerri Manthey Yeah. I always have been.

1:01:46 Adam Sweet.

1:01:46 Jerri Manthey I just know now what I won't put up with or what I don't want. Sweet. Right.

1:01:51 Adam You're talking about positions or?

1:01:53 Jerri Manthey No, no, no. I'm talking about outside of the sexual aspect of a relationship. That affects me more now than it did before. I'm more in tune with what's going on outside of the bed than I am in the bed, which allows me to enjoy what's going on in the bed more.

1:02:07 Adam Well, let me-

1:02:08 Jerri Manthey Or out of the bed or on the floor.

1:02:09 Adam Let me, right. Or like bent over the hood of an El Camino or something like that.

1:02:15 Jerri Manthey Never an El Camino. I've never dates when I drove an El Camino.

1:02:17 Adam Ranchero. Excuse me. Ford's version of the same car. But, Drew, let me float a theory here. We always talk to and talk of women who didn't exactly have it going on sexually. As far as their libido goes or as far as their sense of their self went at 18 or 19 or 17, but by 31, 32 were really hit in their stride. And those women, for just lack of, for sake of confusion, essentially got hornier as the years wore on. But women, and there's a handful of these women too, who are horny at 16, 17, I mean they just are, they seem to be about the same at 30, 33.

1:02:58 Drew It's not like they keep going. No, no, no. Plateau or down a little bit.

1:03:03 Adam Well, down if it's sort of for the wrong reasons.

1:03:06 Jerri Manthey What years are they?

1:03:07 Drew It's different. That's what he's saying. It's different, different people. But one of the prevailing wisdom is it's in the early 30s. And for sure, your testosterone levels are going up, your estrogen levels are going down. It makes sense with the biology a little bit.

1:03:20 Jerri Manthey Yeah, absolutely.

1:03:22 Adam So, but you are always, I mean, you hit the ground running.

1:03:25 Jerri Manthey Yeah, I've always been a very sexual person. And I've explored all of that at an early age. So, I'm very comfortable with myself now.

1:03:34 Adam Good times.

1:03:37 I'm on sale at Wal-Mart.

1:03:39 Drew And you're on sale at Wal-Mart?

1:03:40 Adam Brandon?

1:03:41 Caller Yes.

1:03:42 Adam Sale at Wal-Mart?

1:03:45 Jerri Manthey What are you buying over there?

1:03:46 Actually, I was discussing the fabric in a crazy quilt that we just recently acquired.

1:03:53 Adam Fabric in a crazy what?

1:03:55 Jerri Manthey Crazy quilts?

1:03:56 Yes.

1:03:57 Jerri Manthey Did you make it or did someone give it to you as a gift?

1:03:59 It was a gift.

1:04:00 Jerri Manthey Oh, nice. Lots of love goes into those quilts.

1:04:04 Adam They took that AIDS quilt and they sectioned it off and they're selling them now as crazy quilts.

1:04:08 Yeah, but there's a lot of this really ugly brown in it.

1:04:16 Adam Yeah, someone could have returned it.

1:04:18 That's what I'm thinking.

1:04:19 Adam Probably didn't have brown initially. Yeah. All right, so you got it from the Walmart, the crazy quilt?

1:04:25 Well, I'm thinking that's where the fabric come from that's in the quilt.

1:04:28 Caller I see.

1:04:30 Adam I see.

1:04:31 Drew Remember we were in Wisconsin when we walked into a Walmart?

1:04:35 Jerri Manthey Wisconsin.

1:04:36 Adam Did we walk into a Walmart?

1:04:37 Drew It was across even that crazy, crazy, whatever.

1:04:39 Adam Oh, that's right. Yeah.

1:04:40 Drew One of the biggest departments there we noticed was the gun department.

1:04:43 Jerri Manthey Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a very popular department in Walmart.

1:04:47 Drew Won't allow morning after pill, mind you.

1:04:51 Jerri Manthey But you can shut yourself in the head.

1:04:53 Adam Well, human life is very precious to them. All right, Brandon, so what's going on?

1:04:58 Well, it's what I consider a unique situation coming with information that I've had from friends is that...

1:05:11 Adam I always like to preamble.

1:05:13 Yeah, me too.

1:05:15 Adam I would give this an 8 on the intro specter meter.

1:05:20 Well, hey, at least I'm scoring points.

1:05:22 Drew He's been sitting around for 97 minutes preparing that little soliloquy.

1:05:25 Jerri Manthey Oh, 97 minutes?

1:05:27 Adam Go ahead, Brandon. Spit it out.

1:05:29 The situation is that my girlfriend and I never seem to fight. And I've got several buddies that are married and have long-term... some of the other ones have long-term relationships with girls and they're constantly fighting and bickering and I don't seem to run into that and I just want to know if that's even healthy in a relationship.

1:05:49 Jerri Manthey Oh, that sounds perfect.

1:05:51 Adam But maybe there's no passion, you know?

1:05:54 No, passion is not an issue.

1:05:56 Jerri Manthey Are you having sex regularly?

1:05:58 Oh, yeah.

1:05:59 Jerri Manthey Again, congratulations. These healthy people are calling tonight.

1:06:02 Well, thank you, Jerri.

1:06:03 Jerri Manthey You're welcome.

1:06:04 Adam All right, so everything's working out. Well, let me tell you, are you worried that marriage is going to change that?

1:06:09 Well, marriage hasn't even been brought up at this point. I was... I'm married and divorced and my girlfriend was in a relationship for four or five years that went corrupt and neither of us are even considering this at that point.

1:06:27 Drew Corrupt, huh?

1:06:29 Adam Let me float another one of my hair-brain theories here. But how old is your girlfriend?

1:06:35 She is 29. She's exactly two days younger than I am.

1:06:38 Adam All right, I'm going to put you on hold so you don't interrupt me with the facts when I'm trying to float my theory. But let me float this for Jerri and Drew. I have noticed this in my life, and I believe it to be true, which is when you're dating a woman in year 19 and they're 19 or you're 21 or 22, they're full of pit and vinegar. They're on the top of the world because their biological clock is not ticking like it is at 29, 30, 31, 32. I'm not speaking about all women, but women, when you're both 20, a couple of 20-year-olds are dating, the 20-year-old chick is in command completely. Because not only does she have the sexuality and the whole thing like that, but she's a very hot property on the open market. And you're some peon, 20-year-old is trying to finish college or move up the chain over at work at UPS or something. You're not getting nothing. She is in charge. And therefore, there's plenty of demands and a lot of bickering and a lot of stuff going on. I notice women mellowing out as they get to 30 and beyond, especially when they're not married, because they're thinking is, is, I'm 29, this dude's 29, I'm not going to tear him a new a-hole. I'm looking for him to propose. Now, after we get married, then I have tenure. It's like a government job after we get married. I can't be fired. Then that's it. You go from a Fortune 500 company to the post office in terms of how your work ethic is after you get married. It's like, screw you. I can't be fired. If I do, I'm going to walk with a lot of money, so I'm going to mellow out and we're not going to get into it like we got into it at 21. I think that there's some truth to that statement. I think it's full of crap.

1:08:18 Drew There may be for some people in terms of attitude, but I don't think it's a reality per se. You understand what I'm saying?

1:08:25 Adam I don't think it's even intentional. I'm thinking, think of the difference in your attitude between, hey, this guy's lucky to be with me as opposed to, jeez, I hope he pops the question.

1:08:36 Drew Attitude.

1:08:37 Adam No.

1:08:38 Drew Plasture.

1:08:38 Adam You're going to try to make this, if you're looking to get married and you're thinking, you're hoping that the guy asked you to get married, you're not going to ride him like a mule and make his life miserable because he's not going to want to get married.

1:08:53 Drew But as you know, there's so many issues that come to bear and all that.

1:08:56 Adam People try to sabotage and I'm over simplifying it, but I noticed there is a humbling and mellowing process.

1:09:03 Drew And maybe that's part of the biology too.

1:09:04 Jerri Manthey You think that that's what this chick is doing to him?

1:09:06 Drew No, I think they're fine. My question to him was, why is he calling, why does he need to call a radio station if he's-

1:09:13 Adam Tell us, thumbs up, everything's fine.

1:09:15 Jerri Manthey You know what, it sounds to me like peer pressure from his friends. Obviously his friends have said, there's something wrong, you're not fighting, instead of saying, hey dude, congratulations.

1:09:25 Drew Yeah, a real man fight.

1:09:26 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

1:09:26 Adam All right, we will take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Chloe, she's 22. She's on heroin, and she wants to know what Drew thinks of methadone. I can tell you it's not good after this.

1:09:41 Caller Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready.

1:10:17 Adam Hey, everybody, Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Drew. That's our friend, System of a Down, playing in the background. Anderson's rocking out too. We're just going to stall until it kicks in. Is that what you want to do, Anderson?

1:10:29 Caller It takes a long one time.

1:10:31 Adam Oh, there it is.

1:10:33 Caller There you go.

1:10:34 Drew She's Anderson, you take more vacation time.

1:10:36 Adam Jerri Mantheys are at Gatsby Night.

1:10:39 Drew He's all charged up.

1:10:40 Adam Well, Anderson does not go to Mazatlan or Cancun. He goes up to the hills of Idlewild and works with cancer kids.

1:10:50 Caller And Ronald McDonald for good times.

1:10:51 Adam That's right. He sits there and blows smoke into their face while they're making s'mores.

1:10:57 That's a great gig.

1:10:59 Jerri Manthey That's not very nice.

1:11:02 Adam Anderson is like one of those psycho guys who picks you up hitchhiking and you want to get out after two blocks. He gives you that conversation where he goes, I go up there because in my darkest depths I know humanity is evil and I learned I have disdain for my fellow man. Then I go up there and see the kid smiling and brings me off back to life again. And now he's back in amongst the healthy and look out. He only likes people with cancer.

1:11:31 Caller It's actually you that makes me hate humanity.

1:11:37 Drew Come back with a little bit of assertion.

1:11:38 Adam That's right.

1:11:39 Drew Training.

1:11:40 Adam All righty. Where the hell? Long Beach Dub All Stars in here tomorrow night. Jerri Manthey tonight from Survivor 2 and on the cover of Playboy out on newsstands and we're again trying to make that million sales plateaus so I'll go out there and buy one. Chloe?

1:11:58 Caller Yes.

1:11:58 Adam 22?

1:11:59 Caller Yeah.

1:11:59 Adam You're on heroin?

1:12:01 Caller Well, I haven't used in over a month now. I'm on a methadone maintenance program. I was wondering what Dr. Drew's opinion of it was.

1:12:10 Drew Well.

1:12:11 Caller I start my detox and I found out that they had me on 80 milligrams of methadone which I was not happy about finding out that.

1:12:19 Drew Here's my problem. Methadone is, had a resurgence in popularity. I personally think it's a mistake, but it certainly helps a lot of people. It's called a harm avoidance strategy and it's really being advocated because people on heroin have great difficulty getting well. I still don't believe that's a reason to just check out of that process and to not try to get well. Getting off methadone cold turkey after a period of months or years is extraordinarily difficult if not impossible.

1:12:51 Adam Couldn't they wean her off with heroin?

1:12:53 Drew Well, what happens Chloe is you're going to do your taper. You want 80 milligrams now?

1:12:58 Caller Well, I was and I started the detoxing in about...

1:13:01 Drew Hang on, hang on. And what happens when you start detoxing, you'll start chipping heroin again. This is what inevitably every single methadone detoxer I've dealt with has done that. I would suggest that when you get down below about 20 milligrams, even if you're chipping heroin, go into a program and really make an attempt at getting well.

1:13:18 Caller Well, I was wondering about if I could get a prescription for some sort of anti-withdrawal drug, like catapress or palmitic.

1:13:25 Drew That's all good and that would all help you, but more than anything you need structure, you need somebody assessing you hour to hour, you need help getting through this, and then you know what it's like when you're off. Detoxing is the easiest part of heroin. As miserable it is, it's easy. That emptiness that you feel when you're off, that incredible dysphoria, that emptiness, that sense of loss that goes on for months and months is what's intolerable, and that requires treatment. You've got to get treated. Chloe, Chloe, it won't get better by itself. I promise you. You've got to go somewhere and spend time in a structured environment, months in a structured environment, and really focus.

1:14:04 Jerri Manthey I don't understand how anybody can even go to that drug knowing that the horrifying aspects of stopping it, physically, mentally, the whole thing.

1:14:13 Drew The stopping, everyone has this sort of pathological fear, but the stopping takes about five days. It's no big deal. It's not comfortable, but it's no big deal. The staying stopped is almost impossible. It is impossible if you're not in some kind of treatment. It's impossible. It never happens.

1:14:27 Adam Wow. People getting heroin have such pain that anything to calm the pain is something that they'll reach out for.

1:14:34 Drew A lot of PTSD, a lot of trauma survivorship, a lot of all kinds of negative affect. That's called a lot of pain you're carrying around. The heroin takes it all away. It's hard to convince them otherwise. It's out there big time right now. It's a very common drug.

1:14:48 Adam How much methadone is in a liquid form, right?

1:14:50 Drew Can be.

1:14:52 Adam How much is 80 milligrams? What was she taking?

1:14:54 Drew 80 is modest. It's not real high. 120 is high.

1:14:57 Adam Is that milligrams she was taking? Is that in a liquid form?

1:15:01 Drew Sometimes.

1:15:01 Adam They do milligrams in a liquid form?

1:15:02 Drew Milligrams in anything form.

1:15:04 Adam Any form? I'm looking at a NyQuil cap. Is that about halfway full or what is that?

1:15:10 Drew I don't know how they mix it.

1:15:11 Adam They put it in those little caps, like the NyQuil cap.

1:15:15 Drew There you go.

1:15:15 Adam What's 80 milligrams?

1:15:17 Drew Depends how many milligrams per CC she has mixed up.

1:15:20 Adam Well don't they?

1:15:21 Drew Is it 20 milligrams per CC? 40 milligrams per CC? It depends how they mix it. I don't know how they mix it.

1:15:25 Adam There's no standard?

1:15:26 Drew No.

1:15:27 Adam Well you don't know what it is. There's a standard.

1:15:29 Drew There is.

1:15:30 Adam I'm sure there is. Thank you.

1:15:31 Caller Alright here's my point.

1:15:32 Adam If I took a shot of that.

1:15:34 Drew You can go to sleep for two days.

1:15:36 Adam Can I get some of that?

1:15:37 Caller Oh jeez.

1:15:38 Adam Really? Two days?

1:15:39 Drew 80 milligrams methamphetamine.

1:15:40 Jerri Manthey Can you imagine how crappy you'd feel when you woke up?

1:15:43 Adam I always feel crappy when I wake up. I had this great dream. All I dreamt about last night is that I was running late for this radio show. And I believe.

1:15:56 Jerri Manthey And I lived your dream.

1:15:57 Adam You were on. Jerri was on and it was like 10.30 at night and I was driving here and I just.

1:16:04 Drew Jerri was the guest?

1:16:05 Adam Yeah. You talked about me? I did in a sort of in a in a in a sort of convenient way in that I needed somebody to be in here.

1:16:15 Drew You knew it again.

1:16:15 Adam For me not to be here and I knew you were going to be in it tomorrow night. Or tonight, but it was tomorrow night when I went to bed. Yeah. I dream and I never I never dream that. I never have those those things. But you know what that is? I'll tell you what that is. And I'm worried I you know I can't figure this out with dreams. Why does it work this way? I had a bunch of people I needed to return phone calls to a bunch of people that wanted stuff and meetings and stuff I've been putting off and I hadn't been returning their calls right. And I went to bed and it was weighing on me. I was like oh Christ I got I got all these business people and some personal stuff and everyone's waiting on me to call them back and I've been avoiding it. And I got to call them back. I was thinking no more is this one.

1:16:57 Drew And then you and I. Yes he's impressed.

1:16:59 Adam So now I go to bed. Why can't I just dream about the god damn people I'm supposed to call back. Instead that energy the same energy gets converted into a different form and I'm wrestling with a three headed dragon and running late to Loveline. Why couldn't it just be I got to call this guy that guy and the other guy back.

1:17:18 Drew And remember it was a weird energy night for me. I don't know if you had.

1:17:20 Adam Yes.

1:17:21 Drew And you and I got disconnected when we were talking on our car phones.

1:17:24 Adam Oh, yes.

1:17:25 Drew And I got lost in downtown Los Angeles trying to get around that traffic.

1:17:28 Adam No, it took me half an hour. Last night.

1:17:30 Drew Yes.

1:17:31 Adam Is this in your dream?

1:17:32 Drew No, it really happened to me while I was trying to call you back.

1:17:36 Adam Drew and I speak on our cell phones on the way home.

1:17:38 Drew We don't talk enough. You're over.

1:17:40 Adam Yeah.

1:17:40 Caller You guys are really close, aren't you?

1:17:42 Drew No.

1:17:43 Adam Can you believe Jerri? Can you believe that hair? Oh my God. She's going to get some condition.

1:17:47 Drew Is she her nails?

1:17:48 Adam Yeah. I got a playboy. You got a playboy? Wait a minute. I don't have a playboy. Holy crap. Where's the playboy?

1:17:54 Caller No.

1:17:55 Adam Jared?

1:17:56 Yeah.

1:17:57 Adam You're 20. That's what it's going to sound like. What's up?

1:18:01 Caller Man, I was calling to want to know if I should get my girlfriend, or actually my fiancee, ex-one, give her another chance when she cheated on me.

1:18:09 Adam Why did she cheat on you?

1:18:10 Caller Well, her friends were throwing her a 19th birthday party.

1:18:14 Jerri Manthey She got drunk.

1:18:15 Caller Yeah, she said, only girls are going to be there, so I let her go.

1:18:19 Drew You let her go.

1:18:20 Jerri Manthey She lied and she cheated on you.

1:18:22 Caller We've been together for a year, about two weeks, and we've lived together eight months out of that year.

1:18:26 Drew I bet, just the one statement you made gives me a sense of what might be going on in this relationship.

1:18:31 Caller She let her go to her birthday party?

1:18:32 Drew He let her go to her own birthday party. Hang on, Jared, has she been kind of complaining about you being kind of controlling and not letting her be herself? Jealous. Kind of being jealous. See, that's when women cheat. When men aren't giving women their will and aren't being emotionally available.

1:18:51 Adam And when they accuse them of cheating all the time.

1:18:54 Drew Yeah, and being jealous all the time.

1:18:55 Adam And being worried about it eventually they do. But let's not pick on Jared too much yet because I want to find out what the story was.

1:19:01 Caller Okay. And see, I knew something was up because she didn't want me to go to her birthday party.

1:19:06 Adam Right.

1:19:06 Caller So I kind of had a little suspicion there.

1:19:09 Adam But you get a little suspicion when she says she's going to go put air in her tires.

1:19:13 Caller At noon.

1:19:16 Adam You get a little suspicion when the wind blows, right Jerri?

1:19:18 Caller Yeah, a little bit.

1:19:19 Adam Alright, so she wants to go to this, she wants to go, she says, girls night out.

1:19:23 Caller Right.

1:19:23 Adam Okay.

1:19:24 Caller It was at our best friend's house and no parents are around. And she told me that before I left. So I came to see my friends and I got drunk that night. And but I didn't sleep with no other girl.

1:19:34 Adam Right.

1:19:34 Caller And she knows that and all my friends told her that.

1:19:36 Adam Right.

1:19:37 Drew Have you done that ever in the past or?

1:19:38 Caller No, I've never cheated on her.

1:19:39 Adam Okay. Alright.

1:19:40 Caller Okay. And that night, one of my best friends from here, she's a girl, she went up there to that party. And she's the one who got us hooked up. You know, the friend that went from here to up there.

1:19:51 Adam Right.

1:19:52 Caller And she came back early. She came back to my party that I was at. And I was like, you know, I was like, Kristen, what are you doing here? And she said, well, the party was pretty boring. So I just want to come back to this one, see how this one was going.

1:20:06 Caller I was like, all right.

1:20:07 Caller I said, what's Tammy doing? She said, well, she's just partying, pretty much drunk off her ass, you know, drank a lot of vodka. I said, is there any guys there? She's like, no, there ain't no guys there.

1:20:16 Caller I found out a couple of days later.

1:20:17 Drew This is that 20 year old energy that just vanishes at some point. Yeah.

1:20:22 Jerri Manthey Thank God.

1:20:23 Drew Thank God for all, not just for the women, for the men also.

1:20:27 Adam Here's what it turns into. Yeah, this big dude was banging the bejesus out of your girlfriend. Black guy? No.

1:20:32 Caller All right.

1:20:34 Adam Anyway, so what else?

1:20:35 Drew I can't see it to you. Wait, wait, wait.

1:20:37 Adam Finger food?

1:20:39 Jerri Manthey Just give me another beer.

1:20:41 Adam Did they tap the keg or?

1:20:43 Drew No, that energy, really I have to be reminded that I had that energy.

1:20:46 Jerri Manthey I know. I remember that too. That jealousy that would just drive you crazy.

1:20:53 Caller Okay, so the next day we were supposed to meet each other back at the house at 3 o'clock. Well, I got there about 15, 20 minutes late and she wasn't there. I waited around 4 and about 4.30 she showed up. I asked her where she was and she said, well, I had to go to my McDonald's where she was working to get her tax form. So I was like, okay, that's cool.

1:21:11 Drew Nice specifics there on that too.

1:21:13 Jerri Manthey He's told the story probably 20 times.

1:21:15 Adam Is it a W2 or a 1040?

1:21:21 Drew W4.

1:21:21 Adam W4. Sorry.

1:21:23 Jerri Manthey Or it could be a 1099 if she's freelancing.

1:21:25 Adam She's not going long this year though. She's going short form.

1:21:28 Jerri Manthey The EZ.

1:21:30 Adam How many dependents did she claim Jerri? It's important to the story.

1:21:34 Caller I don't know.

1:21:35 Adam I see, Sarah. Okay. You can claim yourself as one. Is this the next day?

1:21:43 Caller Right. This is the next day.

1:21:44 Caller So she didn't smell of sex at this point.

1:21:46 Adam Okay. So she goes to McDonald's to pull a tax form.

1:21:50 Caller She was supposed to be at work at 6 o'clock that morning. After she partied and she didn't go. She told me she didn't go.

1:21:55 Caller She slept all day.

1:21:56 Caller She came home and she wanted to go straight to sleep. She wanted to take a nap. I said, okay, that's cool. We can take a 2 or 3 hour nap.

1:22:02 Drew Get to the punchline here. What happened?

1:22:04 Caller Okay, and later that night, I just knew something was up because we had kissed and stuff and she really didn't seem like she wanted to.

1:22:11 Drew So you grilled it out of her.

1:22:13 Caller Right, something was bothering her.

1:22:14 Drew You sweated her out.

1:22:15 Caller I finally got out of there after 6 hours of arguing with her. And she finally eventually said, and the bad thing about it, her best friend comes over with the guy she cheated on me with. They came over to our house to get her.

1:22:26 Drew What did she actually do with him?

1:22:28 Caller She slept with him for like 3 minutes. Her best friend walked in, so they didn't last that long. That's what she told me.

1:22:33 Drew They were having intercourse.

1:22:34 Caller They did have intercourse, though.

1:22:36 Drew Did?

1:22:36 Adam Yes, they did. And her friend, now why did her friend come over with this guy?

1:22:41 Caller That's what I want to know. I didn't know it was the guy she cheated on me with when they came over that night.

1:22:46 Adam How did you find out about that?

1:22:48 Caller Well the next day I asked Tane, I said who was that guy that was with Randy? And she said that was the guy that I slept with.

1:22:54 Drew You know what, I think your relationship is about toast. This is all chaotic, everybody is lying.

1:22:59 Caller It's a big old mess.

1:23:01 Jerri Manthey It needs to end now. Don't waste any more time.

1:23:05 Adam Let me give you a couple of pieces of very sound advice. First off, she did this. She made a statement when she did this. She would have, if she was horribly and madly in love with you and dying to get married and she cheated on you, she would have never let you find out about it. She would have worked her hardest to be as normal as she could the next day and you would have never got it out of her. That's number one. She wanted to send a message to you and it's probably because you've been pushing on her too much lately. But she's saying, I don't want to get married. Now, you are never going to forget this. You are going to bring this up constantly and it's going to end up being the demise of the relationship after you're married.

1:23:48 Drew And three girlfriends from now, you're going to laugh about this as, thank god this happened, that relationship was no good.

1:23:53 Caller Or three kids from now, if you get married to her when you guys get divorced.

1:23:58 Adam So Jared, listen to me because I'm twice as smart as you are, and I'm considered stupid by my friends.

1:24:05 Drew And twice as old.

1:24:08 Adam And twice as old, but likable, just stupid.

1:24:10 Drew Yeah, I understand.

1:24:13 Adam Break up. Yeah, I've already broke up with her. Okay, don't get weird, don't get drunk, don't get bad. Don't go creeping through any bushes. She is a person that needs chaos in her life.

1:24:27 Drew At this time.

1:24:27 Adam At this time. You two are dancing this crazy dance, and it ain't gonna work. And thank God, she did you a favor. I know it sounds trite, and it sounds like BS. Believe me, she did you a favor. Don't get married, get into your own crap, work on, are you working at McDonald's?

1:24:46 Caller No, I work at Walmart.

1:24:48 Adam Good. See if you can work on your career and move up to like a Derwiner schnitzel.

1:24:54 Drew Get married when you're 30.

1:24:55 Adam Get married in 10 years.

1:24:56 Jerri Manthey And even then, if it doesn't happen, it's fine.

1:24:59 Adam Don't knock anybody up, you're a guy, you got all the time in the world. All right?

1:25:03 Caller She calls me every night, every day.

1:25:05 Adam Listen, you know why? Because she's the chaos queen.

1:25:08 Jerri Manthey She feels bad, it's guilt now.

1:25:10 Adam No, it's more dancing. She can't dance now. All she knows is this chaos.

1:25:16 Jerri Manthey I think she doesn't like being wrong.

1:25:18 Drew She, whatever the reason, it's still the dance.

1:25:21 Caller Yeah.

1:25:21 Adam Don't dance with her. All right. We'll take a break. We'll be back.

1:25:25 Caller Loveline, Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, we'll be right back.

1:26:03 Adam Hey, yo, Loveline, I'm Adam Carolla. There's Dr. Drew over there, stealing some supplies from Westwood 2, as we like to call it. Jerri Manthey is here from Survivor 2 and also from Playboy. She's on the cover of this month's issue, September, out on the newsstands as we speak. Only ten more days. So go out there and pick one up for yourself. And Long Beach Dub All-Stars in here tomorrow night. John, you're 19?

1:26:36 Caller Yes, I am.

1:26:36 Adam What's up?

1:26:38 Jerri Manthey Not a whole lot.

1:26:38 Caller Hey, I got a new word for you to call people, but you can only call people this if you really don't like them because it's a really nasty word.

1:26:47 Adam All right.

1:26:47 Jerri Manthey Can you say it on the air?

1:26:48 Caller Oh, yeah.

1:26:49 Adam Mother F-er.

1:26:51 Caller No, it's Feltcher.

1:26:54 Adam Oh, Feltcher. Yeah, but that's out.

1:26:56 Jerri Manthey I've never heard that before.

1:26:57 Drew I think Adams actually called people Feltch before.

1:27:00 Caller You've never heard of Feltcher before?

1:27:01 Jerri Manthey I've never heard that before. What is it?

1:27:03 Drew What's it? Feltcher? Feltcher?

1:27:04 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

1:27:05 Drew Oh boy.

1:27:06 Caller It's when a guy, a guy who like blows a load and a guy in someone's butt and then sucks it out with a straw.

1:27:14 Caller Oh, God.

1:27:16 Jerri Manthey Are you serious?

1:27:17 Adam Yeah. You haven't done that?

1:27:19 Jerri Manthey Hell no.

1:27:20 Adam Oh, please.

1:27:21 Caller Oh, and Adam, I also have to give you props.

1:27:23 Jerri Manthey She's pretty uptight.

1:27:25 Caller For the man show.

1:27:26 Caller Yeah.

1:27:27 Caller It's just hilarious.

1:27:28 Adam What? On what?

1:27:29 Caller The periodic table. It's on the Internet.

1:27:33 Adam Oh, I haven't seen it.

1:27:34 Caller Oh, you got to see it.

1:27:36 Adam What? You mean like a man show website?

1:27:38 Caller Yeah.

1:27:39 Adam How?

1:27:39 Caller www.themanshow.

1:27:41 Adam Oh, it is?

1:27:42 Caller Yeah. All right..com. Then there's a big periodic table and it has all these elements.

1:27:48 Adam Interesting. It's funny?

1:27:50 Caller It's hilarious.

1:27:51 Adam How good?

1:27:52 Caller I laughed my ass off through the whole thing.

1:27:54 Adam What's funny about it? What do you mean?

1:27:56 Drew Oh, come on. Let's get on with it. What did you call about?

1:27:58 Adam I don't know what this thing is.

1:28:00 Drew Look it up. John, what did you call about?

1:28:03 Caller All right. Well, I had to ask Jerri a question. Okay.

1:28:08 Caller I would like to know the size matter.

1:28:11 Caller And if it doesn't, because I'm really small, like really small.

1:28:18 Caller How big?

1:28:20 Caller What?

1:28:21 Adam How small, I should say?

1:28:23 Caller Probably about three, maybe three and a half.

1:28:26 Adam Jerri, please.

1:28:27 Jerri Manthey That was not me laughing.

1:28:29 Caller I know you would never laugh at me, Jerri.

1:28:31 Jerri Manthey No, I wouldn't.

1:28:32 Adam That's erect, right?

1:28:33 Caller Yeah, that's erect.

1:28:34 Caller All right.

1:28:36 Adam Please, Jerri, please.

1:28:37 Jerri Manthey That is so not me. Stop it.

1:28:39 Adam That's not like you to laugh. I agree. There you are laughing.

1:28:42 Jerri Manthey I know. I'm sad that he's already has a sense of insecurity about that. But I mean, there are other things you can do to compensate for size. You can become very good at oral sex. You can be very in tune with places to touch. There's a lot of other things. But I mean, even still, I think at three and a half inches, if you work at the right way, you're all right.

1:29:03 Adam The good news for guys is you can have a small penis and still be a great lover. True?

1:29:09 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

1:29:10 Adam Right?

1:29:10 Jerri Manthey I think so.

1:29:11 Adam Women enjoy the oral sex more anyway, don't they? Well, not you. You're a passionate, passionate woman. You and Drew ought to get together. We're both very passionate people.

1:29:20 Jerri Manthey He's married.

1:29:22 Adam You know, I'm getting... Oh, well. Look, what he does on his own time is his business. He has an agreement. They swing. It grew.

1:29:31 Drew Yeah.

1:29:33 Adam Let me float another one of my theories, and then later I'm going to float a fart.

1:29:37 Jerri Manthey Please make sure I'm out of the room at that point.

1:29:39 Caller Okay, thank you.

1:29:41 Adam Some women really enjoy the actual sort of intercourse part of sex.

1:29:47 Drew That's right.

1:29:48 Adam And these are women, I think, like Jerri, that almost sort of approach it from a slightly more masculine way, in a way. I mean, they like sex. I mean, there's women out there, they like a good romping.

1:29:59 Drew Yeah.

1:29:59 Adam And they want to see some sweat fly and some ass slamping and some boob grabbing and all that good stuff.

1:30:06 Jerri Manthey It's got to be tender, though.

1:30:08 Drew All right.

1:30:09 Adam But you enjoy the intercourse part of sex.

1:30:12 Jerri Manthey Absolutely.

1:30:13 Adam Most women do.

1:30:14 Jerri Manthey But you can't get closer to someone.

1:30:15 Adam But the women, but there's a lot of women who would prefer to have oral sex performed on them over the intercourse, right?

1:30:23 Drew For the orgasm part, yeah.

1:30:25 Adam Even just in general.

1:30:27 Caller It is like less invasive or something.

1:30:28 Jerri Manthey It is harder to have an internal orgasm as a woman. Absolutely. The oral orgasm is easier. Yeah. As long as the guy knows what he's doing. That's why I think it's a very good thing for a man to know how to do it, right?

1:30:41 Adam Right. And what I'm saying about Jerri is she's a real McCoy. Yeah. She likes sex.

1:30:46 Drew Yeah.

1:30:46 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

1:30:47 Adam Yeah.

1:30:47 Caller Okay.

1:30:49 Drew You could learn on him.

1:30:50 Adam Yeah.

1:30:53 Jerri Manthey Did we help him?

1:30:55 Adam I think the women who just sort of like the oral like the orgasm, but not the sex part of sex. Do you know what I mean? Or the intimacy part, but not the sex part.

1:31:06 Drew The intercourse part. The intercourse part satisfies something different than the sex part. Yeah.

1:31:10 Adam Right. All right. Grace?

1:31:12 Yes.

1:31:13 Adam You're 38?

1:31:14 Caller Yes, I am.

1:31:15 Adam What's up?

1:31:16 Caller Hello, Dr. Drew and Adam. I like you guys' program. I have not been listening that long, but I made it a point to listen tonight when I heard that Jerri was going to be on today. Hi, Jerri. Hello. I have a couple of little questions for you. I was just going to ask you what you plan on doing in the future, like what's your next thing now that you did the Playboy?

1:31:36 Jerri Manthey Actually, I just wrapped a short film about two weeks ago. It's called Destiny and it'll be touring on the film festivals. It's a great piece about, it's kind of a Twilight Zone feel to it. It's about a woman who has an abortion. It's a pretty intense subject that people don't really like to talk about.

1:31:54 Adam It's a farce type comedy. She was telling me during the break.

1:31:58 Drew A puckish romp.

1:31:58 Adam A puckish romp.

1:31:59 Jerri Manthey A puckish romp. I'm learning all kinds of new words tonight.

1:32:04 Caller I was just going to ask you, you know how Blind Date, I guess a while ago, I don't know if it was a year or two ago, when you had-

1:32:10 Jerri Manthey Three years ago.

1:32:12 Caller They brought that old thing out. Did you know that they were going to do that? And was that okay with you?

1:32:17 Jerri Manthey I was so upset that they were going to re-air it over and over and over again.

1:32:22 Adam Oh, you were on Blind Date?

1:32:23 Jerri Manthey Yeah, because they made it look like I did it after I got back from the Outback, which is so not the case.

1:32:27 Adam Right.

1:32:28 Jerri Manthey It was one of the most horrifying experiences in my life.

1:32:29 Adam Right. You did that like when they pull out that old thing, you know, like Tom Selleck was on the dating game or something. And they dust that stuff off when the guy becomes a celebrity.

1:32:40 Jerri Manthey Yeah.

1:32:40 Adam And that's basically what they did with you.

1:32:41 Jerri Manthey Yeah, it was extremely embarrassing. I got totally tanked on national television.

1:32:46 Caller When I saw it on the commercial, I could tell that it was from a long time ago. I mean, I knew it wasn't after you came back.

1:32:52 Jerri Manthey Well, thank you.

1:32:53 Caller You're welcome. My last question, honest. Do you think that you will be invited? And this is like a lame question, but I'm just curious. To Elizabeth's wedding, and if so, will you go?

1:33:03 Jerri Manthey Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. I guess we'll have to see.

1:33:07 Adam When's her marriage or wedding?

1:33:09 Jerri Manthey I don't know. I don't know. I think she's really busy right now, and I haven't heard anything about it. So I would be surprised if I wasn't.

1:33:17 Adam I'd follow up the bunch of hard-hitting, probing questions, but I'm tired and we got to take a break. So we'll be back. All right. That's it. We're out of show. I want to thank Jerri Manthey for coming in here and tell you that if you'd like to see more of her, you will, you can pick up this month's, which is actually next month's. Playboy, it's on the newsstands now. She's right on the cover. You can't miss her. And best of luck to you.

1:34:17 Jerri Manthey Thank you very much.

1:34:18 Adam And come back anytime you like.

1:34:20 Jerri Manthey I would love to.

1:34:21 Adam Long Beach Dub All-Stars tomorrow night. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:34:27 Caller Well, I was looking for your experience in the anal world.

1:34:33 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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