Episode 1000739244250

0:22 Voiceover Hey everybody, it's Loveline, the phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. I am Dr. Drew, and in the studio tonight, James Van Praagh.

0:29 Hey, Drew!

0:30 Drew How are you? James, how are you? Thank you for coming in, I appreciate it. So last time you were up, well, how should we describe you?

0:37 James Van Praagh In many ways.

0:39 Drew You have many different titles now. The last thing I read was that you bridged the gap between two planes of existence.

0:44 That's right.

0:45 James Van Praagh I'm busy at the airport, you know.

0:47 He is the...

0:49 Drew Well, you're the inspiration, and now the producer, executive producer, of Ghost Whisperer.

0:54 James Van Praagh Correct. Or some refer to it as Boobs Whisperer. Some people refer to it now.

0:57 Drew Boobs Whisperer is what depends on when you're watching the show, why you're watching the show, whatever. But now I think everyone knows you because of that, right?

1:05 James Van Praagh Yeah, it's become pretty popular. The show is doing very, very well. We're number one on Friday nights for CBS. And we've just gone international in four different countries now. And number four in Australia, to the day. Doing very, very well. People love it.

1:17 Drew Friday 8 p.m. CBS. Did you foresee this?

1:21 James Van Praagh I did. I predicted it.

1:22 Drew You did predict this? I did. I believe anything you say, James.

1:27 James Van Praagh I predicted the pilot and I told them it's going to go. And I told them I'm going to get an actress from another pilot who falls out. She'll come to our show and she knows exactly what happened with Jennifer. And she read the script and she loved the pilot. And we shot it. And tomorrow night, actually Friday night, tomorrow night, they're going to show the pilot again.

1:45 Drew Wow.

1:46 James Van Praagh So people who haven't seen it yet.

1:48 Drew Describe to our listeners what it is you do and how this happened. I think your story is so very interesting.

1:52 James Van Praagh It's very, very interesting. No one like me around. Well, funny enough, I was in a meeting this morning, Drew, and your name came up and it was so weird that here I am sitting here and talking with you. And this morning I was just talking about you. So very bizarre those things happen. Yeah, I'm known as a spiritual medium. And like that kid in the sixth sense, that's who I am, what I am. When I was a little kid, I used to see spirits around people and in rooms. I used to see lights around people, you know, colors or auras.

2:23 Drew Yeah. And I have a patient that does this too. And she says she's actually being studied by people at Caltech. And when people get sick, do you see certain colors? She insists that there's a color change.

2:35 James Van Praagh It's true. Well, everything's energy, it's energetic. So I do see like darker colors when someone's ill, when the energy actually is closer to the body. It's not as expanded. The colors, the aura around the person. So I do see that way. And as a kid, you know, I used to see things all the time like that.

2:51 Drew When did it start? Was it just since as early as you can remember or, you know, was it you get hit over the head one day, like you hit over the island, you get hit with a coconut?

3:00 James Van Praagh When I was a little kid, I used to see, just like the movie Six Sends, I used to see spirits at the end of my bed. I used to see, God, I used to go to cemeteries, I used to see a lot of spirits running around. As a kid, you know, I thought that was the way everybody sees things. I thought that's, there we go.

3:15 Drew That's the spirits running around.

3:16 James Van Praagh That's the spirits. They're lifting the table over here. When I was a kid, you know, kids are very open and kids see things for what they are. And I didn't know anything different. I told my friend, I said, you're a freak. What's going on with you?

3:25 Drew I was like, come on. It was actually another peer that told you that.

3:29 James Van Praagh Yeah, I was a nice little Catholic boy growing up, and as nice little Catholic boys sometimes do, we cut school and went out and hung out in cemeteries. And it was really weird. And I was hanging out with some friends around seven years of age, eight years of age, I was. And I saw these two little, like three-year-old kids, a boy and a girl, at this tombstone. I said, look at those two little kids. What are they doing here by themselves? Who are their parents? And my friend said, no one's there. Are you crazy? Look at it. No one's there. You may be saying no one's there at all. So yeah, those two kids. And we went over there and the tombstone read they were twins that died at age three. Wow. And that was like, you know, I was like eight years old when that happened. And things like that, to me, it was just the way I was. Nothing special about it. It was just the way I was. And I knew things about people before, you know, when I met them, I knew things about them. I knew things about their relatives who had passed over. And I thought everybody was like that.

4:18 Drew And you had a weird experience with a teacher or something whose son got hit by a car. Tell me about that.

4:24 James Van Praagh It was really weird. When I was in first grade.

4:27 Drew Even you thought it weird.

4:28 James Van Praagh Well, you know, I'm like you, I'm a Virgo down to earth, black and white, you know, prove it to me. So it's funny because I'm very much a skeptic. But I mean, I can't deny what I see feeling here. So when I was a little kid with six years of age, first grade, my teacher's name was Mrs. Weinlich. And I walked up to her and I said, your son's fine. Your son is fine. He got hit by a car, but he just broke his leg. He's fine. And she said, what are you talking about? Get back to your seat. Get back to your seat.

4:50 Drew She got mad at you.

4:51 James Van Praagh She got very angry with me. Very angry. And ten minutes later, the principal comes in, this nun, and she pulled her out of the room. And five minutes later, the lady comes back in, the teacher, and she points to me and just come up here. And I started crying. I said, what did I do? What did I do now? She goes, how did you know that? I said, and I thought I caused it. I thought I caused it. She goes, yes, my son was in an accident. The car hit him and he, but he's okay. He just broke his leg. And I thought I caused this. And this lady was very instrumental because she said to me, James, James, calm down, calm down. And I still remember this. You know, I put this in my book, you know, it was an amazing moment because she said, God gives certain people some time of gifts to help people. And maybe one day you'll help people with this ability.

5:28 Drew The teacher said that.

5:29 James Van Praagh The teacher said that. So just imagine if it was someone who did not believe in this or wasn't open to it. I mean, my future would have been very different.

5:37 Drew They would have sent you to a state hospital right then.

5:38 James Van Praagh I could have been on medication right now. I don't know which is the best.

5:41 Drew More than what you're taking.

5:43 James Van Praagh Exactly, you never know. People still think I need medication.

5:48 Drew What do you figure you're doing?

5:50 James Van Praagh So what do I figure I'm doing? I think everybody is intuitive. I think intuition is part of your soul. I really do. Intuition means into the soul. And I think that we're more than just five senses. I think in this three-dimensional world we're aware of just the five senses, but I think there's definitely more. There's energy that we can't see. For instance, we're in the radio right now, but people don't see our voices in the air, but yet they're materialized. People hear them in their houses. How does that happen? They don't see my voice traveling in the air, but yet it exists because they have receivers at home that receive the signal, the certain level of transmission. Same thing. We send energy with thought. And I believe that when you die, energy cannot die. Energy changes form, if you will. So I think what I'm doing is, if you want to call it a spirit self or soul self, I'm picking up telepathically or in a sensory way, signals, impulses, so forth.

6:37 Drew Is it possible just that your perception of time is different or something?

6:41 James Van Praagh I think that's part of it. I think that's part of it. That the time is different.

6:44 Drew So it's sort of in our linear biological states, we're bound to stuff that you're not bound to.

6:50 James Van Praagh Is that accurate? In a way of speaking, in your terms of speaking, Drew, you could probably understand and-

6:57 Drew Keep it in my terms.

6:58 James Van Praagh But I don't know about that. All I know is I do what I do. We live in a many multi-level world, I think. I think we're very aware of this three-dimensional world, physical world, but there's more to it than that. It's just people know that. People have experienced all the time, like they'll think about someone in five minutes later, the phone rings and it's that person. Now, how do we explain that? There's got to be some kind of communication, some kind of signal being sent somewhere that they're picking up.

7:24 Drew And then how does Ghost Whisperer connect to you?

7:27 James Van Praagh I mean, Ghost Whisperer, yes. The reason I say that is Mad TV did this parody, because Jennifer Love You, I'll tell you, she's the best actress I've ever worked with. She's incredible. Wonderful, lovely person. She's very so real and so sweet and she's soulful. She brings the show. She brought it to number one because of who she is. And people see she really gets into it. One day she said, James, I have a problem. I said, what's that? I have a problem because when I go home, I feel really upset because I let my friends go. I said, you mean the ghosts that pass into the light? She goes, yeah. I said, what? It's only a TV show, darling.

8:00 Drew Oh my goodness.

8:00 James Van Praagh It's just a TV show.

8:02 Drew Oh my goodness.

8:02 James Van Praagh But she really gets into it.

8:03 Drew So even you're telling her, Jennifer, we're back on Earth now.

8:07 James Van Praagh A TV show, darling. So now she's great. So what she does is I had a TV show two years ago called Beyond. It was a daily talk show. And it was during that show that I met this lady named Mary Ann Minkowski from Cleveland, Ohio, who is a ghost buster, a real true ghost buster. Now, I've never met a ghost buster before, and a lot of people that come to me say they can do certain things and I have to test them and make sure they can do these things. Well, I met this lady in Oklahoma and she blew me away. We went to a place that was haunted. She gave the names of the people, where they were buried, where they lived, details you could not find on the Internet or anywhere else. And she came out here and introduced some people at the CBS and they were blown away. And I said, let's do a show around this situation of a ghost buster. She helps people basically, spirits that, or people that passed out of the body, who have not passed into the light. You know, the movie Ghost, Remembering the Ghost, he has to stick around and make sure his, he has to resolve his murder and see who murdered him and so forth.

9:01 Drew Right.

9:01 James Van Praagh So that's really what it's about, because for everybody who dies, there's a light. You know, you heard about a tunnel or a light sensation. And there are those people who don't choose to go in that light, whether it's because they're afraid of what they're going to find in their side, because they're not happy of how they live their life, or just recently I ran into this situation where there was three men haunting this house, and there was a safe in this house, and there were guns in that safe. And these guys were tapped to certain guns from crimes, and they were afraid to pass over because of the punishment they were going to receive.

9:30 Drew What were you doing before all this part of your life erupted? What were you doing day in, day out?

9:36 James Van Praagh What was I doing? Believe it or not, I was a paralegal for Paramount.

9:40 Drew Perfect. That sounds about right.

9:43 James Van Praagh So now I do my own contracts. I mean, I don't even need a lawyer. I just do my own contracts.

9:47 Drew What else would a parapsychologist be but a paralegal?

9:51 James Van Praagh You got to be a parapsychologist. I was going to be a psychologist in school. That's what I really wanted to be, a psychologist. Because I found people's minds interesting and helping people, serving people in certain ways.

10:01 Drew That's the intuitive part. Well, this is very interesting. We'll take calls on this. We'll take the usual Loveline calls. It's James Van Praagh. He is the executive producer of Ghost Whisperer. And you know him from beyond as well. Let's take some calls, shall we? Good.

10:12 James Van Praagh Let's do that.

10:13 Drew All right. Let's see.

10:15 James Van Praagh I've been listening to the show for 20 years now, so I'm very familiar. I go way back.

10:20 Drew This is Mike 21.

10:22 What's up?

10:23 Drew Hey, Mike.

10:24 James Van Praagh Hey, Mike.

10:25 What's going on, man? Here's my problem, man.

10:28 OK, I'm engaged.

10:30 I love the person I'm with. But yet every time she's not around me, I have to get sex from somewhere else.

10:37 But yet I get it plenty from her.

10:39 Why would that be?

10:41 Drew Because you're 21 and not ready to get married?

10:44 Caller No, I am. That's the thing. Whenever I'm not with her, I miss her to death.

10:49 Drew I know. But what if you're married and you're not with her? What are you going to do?

10:52 Caller That's the thing. I'm not sure.

10:54 Drew Yeah, that's because you're 21 and you're not ready to get married.

10:56 James Van Praagh You're still finding yourself, Mike. You're still exploring, I think, aren't you? Is this your first girlfriend or second girlfriend?

11:04 James Van Praagh No, there's too many to count.

11:06 James Van Praagh Oh, all right. Well, then you've explored a lot.

11:08 Caller Yes, I've explored more than I should have.

11:11 James Van Praagh But you're young, still.

11:12 Drew Yeah, you are young and there's only a few possibilities here. Either you're an a-hole or you are not ready to have a relationship or you're sexually compulsive and addicted. So you make your choice.

11:25 Caller I think I'm addicted to it.

11:26 James Van Praagh That's what I wrote down. I wrote addict. Do you? I feel that.

11:31 Drew Well, the thing, Mike, that creates addict with sex is a history of sexual trauma and then a family history of alcoholism or addiction. Do you have those two things?

11:41 Caller A family member was an alcoholic, yeah.

11:43 Drew Okay. And how about some sort of weird sexual stuff when you were a kid?

11:46 James Van Praagh Abuse or something, no?

11:47 Caller No.

11:48 Caller Physical abuse?

11:50 Drew Physical abuse?

11:51 Caller No.

11:52 Drew Are you doing other drugs or alcohol now?

11:53 Caller No. I drink occasionally.

11:56 Drew All right.

11:56 James Van Praagh Really? Really, Mike?

11:58 Caller Yeah.

11:59 James Van Praagh Now tell the truth because I can see things.

12:01 Drew No, I can.

12:02 I drink occasionally.

12:03 Caller The only times I drink is on Sundays.

12:06 James Van Praagh On Sundays. Not Saturdays, on Sundays.

12:08 Drew On those occasions, James, he drinks from morning till night.

12:10 James Van Praagh That's right.

12:11 Drew That's occasionally.

12:13 Caller Hey, that's funny there.

12:15 Drew Well, Mike, if you're an addict, then we need to deal with that. Sometimes sexual compulsion is part of addiction to chemicals and people just sort of are in that mode where they're responding to that part of the brain that becomes diseased from addiction. Sometimes it's sexual addiction per se, which is a separate process. But in my experience, sexual addiction almost always is preceded by trauma in childhood, like sexual trauma typically. And if you don't have the trauma, but you do have the genetics for alcoholism and addiction, and you drink all day on Sunday, this may be more part of a sort of a general addictive process. And I would look into that. Really, addiction is defined by the consequences. And Mike, you're ruining some relationship with somebody you love. That's consequence. So why don't we do something about that?

12:56 James Van Praagh Hey, Drew, let me ask you a question also on this. Would there be some kind of approval he's looking for also? She's trying to receive from someone?

13:02 Drew Well, it's closeness. You know, some people when they have no other way of sort of feeling close and intimate, particularly men, if the only way they can feel closest to physical, you know, sex, that's sort of a never-ending sort of way of trying to quench that. But of course, that's not real closeness. That's just sort of a substitution for it. So, yeah, I feel that kind of stuff from him, too. So I'm intuitive, too, see? You are.

13:24 James Van Praagh You're pretty good. What do you think I'm hanging out with you? Are you kidding? How is your father, Mike, your relationship with your dad?

13:29 Drew Let's see, hold on. Mike?

13:32 Caller Yeah, I'm here.

13:33 James Van Praagh How is your relationship with your dad?

13:35 Caller I've never met him.

13:36 James Van Praagh Yeah, I thought so. I feel it's like from your dad, there's something missing there. And I have a feeling it's part of it. And I really do. And that's why I asked you about that, because I have a feeling it's unresolved with your father.

13:47 Drew Was he the alcoholic?

13:48 Caller No, my mother was. My mother was an alcoholic and my grandmother basically raised me.

13:55 Drew So you're abandoned by both your mom and your dad, so that's a big deal. When I was looking for trauma, that's what I was looking for.

14:02 James Van Praagh And also escape. Wouldn't it be escape also?

14:05 Drew I look at it as sort of managing feelings, affect management. He can't manage them, can't regulate them within his skull, so he has to reach out into the world and sort of do these destructive things. Mike, you may want to look into this. Maybe get a 12-step program, something like that, or maybe even a psychologist or a therapist. I'm going to move on here. This is Kayla 17. Kayla?

14:27 Caller Yeah.

14:28 Drew Hey, what's going on? You're on with James Van Praagh.

14:30 Caller Hey, how's it going?

14:31 James Van Praagh Hey, Kayla. How are you?

14:32 Caller I'm good. How are you doing?

14:33 James Van Praagh Good.

14:34 Caller Well, I've been dating this guy for about a year and a half in February, and every time we go out, he comments on other girls. And he asks me why I don't wear clothes like that. Or he goes, man, look at that girl. She's blonde and kind of intimidates me because I'm a brunette. So, I mean, he always comments on other girls. And I mean, I love him so much, but I don't know if I should break up with him or stay with him.

15:03 Drew We're just going to enjoy your people's music for a second. Kayla, what in the world motivates you to stay with a guy like this? He sounds like an idiot. How old is he?

15:16 Caller He's 18.

15:18 Drew He's an idiot. He doesn't deserve you.

15:20 James Van Praagh You're too good for him.

15:21 Caller Oh, thank you. But I mean...

15:23 Drew This is how he intimidates and controls. This is how he makes himself feel better by demeaning you. That sort of defines a hole.

15:32 Caller Yeah.

15:33 Drew What's that? Anderson, what's that?

15:35 Caller Why don't we give him a call?

15:37 Drew Oh, Kayla, you want to call him?

15:39 Caller Not really, because I don't want him to find out that I'm talking about this now.

15:42 Drew Me neither. I don't want to talk to him either. I've had enough of him just listening to this story.

15:46 James Van Praagh So, Kayla, why do you hang out with him?

15:48 Caller Well, I mean, because I met him at a concert.

15:51 James Van Praagh Yeah.

15:51 Caller And he didn't go to my school.

15:53 Drew Perfect.

15:53 Caller So, huh?

15:55 Drew Perfect. I mean, why wouldn't you hang out with the guy who made a concert?

15:57 Caller What concert? Well, in the story of the year.

16:00 Drew Story of the year?

16:01 Caller Yeah.

16:02 Drew Well, all that much better. So anyway, he doesn't go to your school. He's full of intrigue and bluster. And there you go.

16:08 Caller Well, we listen to the same music. I mean, we like a lot of the same things. But I mean, I don't think I'm mistyping stuff, you know? So it makes me feel worse. You don't think what?

16:19 James Van Praagh Yeah. You can't look at other people for your power. You know, you can't expect someone else to give you that self-empowerment. You got to get it from yourself. You know what I mean? You're looking to him to give you that OK, that I'm a good person, and the validation. And you know what? He's not. He's not. He's better. You know, you're better than he is. He's not even close to you. So I don't know why you would put yourself down to that level. You know, to go there with him when he's not even worth you.

16:43 Drew I hope, I pray, Kayla, that this is just part of your education and your young life of learning what idiots are and how they behave and when to end relationships. I hope, I pray, you don't continue to find and seek out guys like this because this is not how to have a relationship, OK?

17:00 James Van Praagh OK.

17:01 Drew End it. Well, I don't mean that. I don't mean to tell you what to do, but... James, I agree, he's way beneath you.

17:09 James Van Praagh Yeah. And you know what I do, Caleb, with a lot of people in this situation, I've had clients like this and I say to them, you know, make a list, the pros and cons, and you see what's good about the person, what's bad about the person. And look at that list afterwards. The bad at ways, the good. Bye-bye. Not worth it. I bet you'll find that.

17:23 Drew Here's something, here's something specifically for James. This is Mary, Mary, what's up?

17:29 Caller Yes, I was asking about my sister who died.

17:33 James Van Praagh And what would you like to know about your sister?

17:36 Caller I'm sorry?

17:37 James Van Praagh What would you like to know about your sister?

17:39 Caller Well, she died a long time ago when we were little kids, and now, just in my relationship, I have a hard time breaking off relationships. Even if I can't stay on the guy anymore, it's hard for me to get rid of him.

17:54 James Van Praagh Let me ask you this, Mary, do you blame yourself for your sister's death?

17:56 Drew Yeah, I feel that very strong of a guilt.

17:58 Caller A little bit.

17:59 James Van Praagh Because I feel guilt ridden.

18:00 Caller I don't blame myself for her death, but I blame myself for some sufferings she might have had.

18:05 James Van Praagh You couldn't save her. You couldn't save her. You wanted to save her, but you couldn't save her.

18:09 Caller Right.

18:10 James Van Praagh Yeah. And I'm going to tell you, did she drown or something?

18:14 Caller No. She died in surgery. She had holes in her heart when she was two years old, and I was four, and she and I were very close, and I had no control over what was going on, but I think that I hurt her before this happened, before she died.

18:32 By doing what?

18:33 James Van Praagh You were too young. How could you hurt her? Why would you say that to yourself? You're so young.

18:39 Yeah.

18:39 James Van Praagh She was two and you were four. I mean, what could you have done?

18:42 Caller Well, I never saw her cry, so I wanted to see if she would cry, and I hurt her to see if she would cry.

18:48 James Van Praagh Honey, it goes way beyond you. It's way beyond you. Don't do that to yourself.

18:54 Caller No, I know that, but I think that because I lost her, that I have trouble letting go of relationships, and I've had many more.

19:02 Drew Let's just talk about how distorted your feelings are about your sister. Here's the deal. When you're four years old, it's normal to feel grandiose, especially when confronted with traumatizing experiences. You feel responsible for everything. The fact that you poked at your sister who was two when you were four is what four-year-olds do to two-year-olds. That's normal. To feel that you made her life overwhelmed or unmeaningful or caused her undue suffering because of that is bizarre and grandiose. The fact is you were four, she had congenital heart defects, her little life was what it was, it had nothing to do with you. This grandiose posture of being in control and responsible is what four-year-olds think about the world, not 30-year-olds. It's time that you forgive the four-year-old and get on and incorporate that part of yourself into the rest of your adult life, or you will not be able to manage relationships.

19:58 James Van Praagh It's like Mary, remember the story I told earlier about me with a kid in school and I thought I caused that car accident and him to break his leg and I thought I caused that? It's the same normal thinking at that age. It's exactly what it is. So you shouldn't do that to yourself. You could do the worst for your sister by holding onto that guilt and treating yourself that way. She'd want you to be happy and healthy and she wouldn't want you to do that. Her soul's plan might be different than your soul's plan.

20:24 Drew When you let go of people, you're not going to cause them undue suffering and they're not going to be destroyed. It's just a normal part of relationships. But the feeling you have is left over from what the four-year-old feels about coming and going in a relationship, which is that when people are out of your sight, they're dead, they're destroyed, and that's all got to be worked out.

20:42 Caller I just feel like with her, if I had known she was going to die, I would have done it. Because I have no memories from when I was that age, except for...

20:49 Drew Mary, how do you think a four-year-old processes your two-year-old sister is going to die? How do you think a four-year-old would process that?

20:56 Caller Well, yeah, and I didn't even know what death was at the time.

20:58 Drew That's exactly right. You cannot make sense of it at four. You were trying to make sense of it and you've incorporated into these distorted emotions and blame yourself for it. It's almost comical, although it's painful and sort of sad. It's ridiculous.

21:14 James Van Praagh I'm playing God. Let's go, Mary.

21:17 Drew Let's go, Mary.

21:18 Caller I just feel like it's hard for me to let go of relationships because I feel like there's a death happening over. Even if I'm ready to let go of them, it's hard for me to be the one.

21:29 James Van Praagh It's all about control.

21:31 Drew What's so funny about Mary is that this is what happens in psychotherapy. You have to tell people the same things 600 times before they get it. You heard us both say the same thing to her. She goes, yeah, but I can't get over it. She goes right back to where she was. She springs right back to that posture, which is so distorted and so overwhelming.

21:49 James Van Praagh It's also victim consciousness. It's like the victim consciousness. When you live in that consciousness and that's what life is going to happen to you, you'll be the victim the whole time. You have to make that choice to get out of it. You have that choice to marry. You have that power. And victim consciousness, it's a lonely place. It's not a happy place. And once you get out of that and you say, self-free, liberate, life really begins to happen. Don't play God like that. All right.

22:11 Drew It's 1-800-LOVE-191. I'm Dr. Drew. That is James Van Praagh. He is the executive producer, creator, and inspiration for Ghost Whisperer, or as he calls it, Boof Whisperer. On Friday 8 p.m. CBS. And we will be back just after this.

22:38 Caller This is Loveline.

22:43 Drew Hey, it's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191 in studio tonight. James Van Praagh, the inspiration and producer of Ghost Whisperer. And we've got a James Call coming up, but first a more standard love call. A James Call?

22:59 James Van Praagh A dead person or a living person? Tell me.

23:00 Drew It's a living person, about a dead person. And Michelle at first, a more lovelinish call, age 28. Michelle?

23:08 Caller Yes.

23:08 Drew Hey Michelle, what's going on?

23:10 Caller Hey Michelle.

23:11 Hi, how are you doing?

23:12 Drew What's up?

23:14 Caller I had a question.

23:16 My boyfriend of four years, when I tried to have oral sex with him and sped them, when he comes, I cannot swallow the sperm and I want to know if there's an easier way to do it. And it's not because I want you to do it, I want you to do it.

23:31 Caller Oh, God, I can leave now.

23:33 Drew All right, James had enough, huh? That's it?

23:35 James Van Praagh That's it? Thanks, see you later. I'd rather talk to dead people, this is too good. It's easier to talk to dead people, okay.

23:41 Drew I'm confused by, I want to do this, but I want to vomit when I do it at the same time.

23:46 James Van Praagh You don't like the taste of this material.

23:48 Drew Why do you feel you have, why do you want to?

23:51 I want to do it just because I think it's kind of pointless and it's gross to have it sit in my mouth, to spit it out and it's...

23:59 James Van Praagh It's a new diet, it's a new diet fat, I don't know.

24:02 Drew Listen, I've had those questions, believe me. I always tell them it's 4,000 calories. What's their mom's tell them anyway?

24:11 James Van Praagh What about dad? We don't want to go there.

24:13 Drew 80,000 calories.

24:14 Caller Look at that call later, yes.

24:17 Drew So, Michelle, here's the deal. I don't think you need to be, if you don't like doing that, it's not that big a deal to a guy. I mean, he sort of appreciates the gesture, but what they're interested in, you're not breaking stride, you know what I mean?

24:29 James Van Praagh Why do you feel necessary that you have to do that, Michelle?

24:32 I want to do it just because, I mean, when he, he does me with oral effects, he does it. And I was just trying to return the gesture, why?

24:43 James Van Praagh Are you not telling us something about yourself?

24:45 Caller Yeah, right.

24:46 James Van Praagh What are you hiding from us? What do you mean, he does it?

24:48 No, when I come, he's able to swallow it. But I can't.

24:54 Drew You see, James and I are confused.

24:55 James Van Praagh Different strokes for different folks, I think.

24:58 Drew Yeah, you mean you have an ejaculation?

25:01 Not an ejaculation, but when a woman climaxes, there is, I don't know what you call it, it's not sperm, but there's a lubrication that comes out.

25:12 James Van Praagh I don't know about that.

25:14 Drew Well, no, no, we do know. My experience like that. We do know, James, I'm very confused.

25:19 James Van Praagh Drew, help me, I'm confused.

25:21 Drew Well, we do know that there is not sperm. We do know that. Thank you, thank you. That much we know, okay? And most women don't have an ejaculate. Some do have a little bit of fluid, but believe me, he's just getting out of the way there, Michelle. He's not taking it in. Trust me.

25:34 Oh, believe me, he's taking it in.

25:40 Drew Here's the deal. Let me use my intuition for a second. Please, please, please. I get the sense that you are afraid that he's going to get this from somebody else. You have to compete in order to, you know what I mean? That you must do this to compete in some way. You know what I'm saying?

25:57 Caller Oh, no, I don't do it to compete. It's just, I just, you know, I just wanted you to know if there's an easy way because I've tried.

26:03 Caller I really have, and it's not the same.

26:05 Drew How could there be an easy way of something that disgusts you, disgusts you? That's fine. That's a normal sort of a reaction.

26:11 James Van Praagh Wild. I don't understand. Why do you say, I don't want to do it, and it's okay with you, and he loves you, you say, yes, fine, honey, don't worry about it.

26:17 Drew Exactly.

26:18 James Van Praagh Why do you feel you have to do that?

26:20 Drew That's the thing. Michelle needs to talk to him about it when he reassures her that it's okay. Of course, who knows what kind of guy this is.

26:26 James Van Praagh How much longer are you going to be with this guy? You're not going to be with him much longer.

26:30 Drew James is telling you something.

26:31 James Van Praagh Michelle.

26:33 James Van Praagh She already knows that, I think.

26:36 Caller I've been with him for a while. We've been together almost five years.

26:38 James Van Praagh Yeah, but there's some money stuff with you and him too, like giving money and security with the money, and the whole thing like that, you know what I mean? Not really. Does he take care of you in some way? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I bet he does. And security. It's a lot of money there too. And, you know, I think, Drew, I think you're right. You know, she's afraid he's going to leave her.

26:58 Drew Right. It's this feeling that if I don't do that, somebody else will kind of feeling. That's the feeling I get.

27:05 Caller I just wish I could return the favor.

27:07 James Van Praagh I think you return it in other ways. You don't have to do that. You return it in many other ways. Just being his girlfriend is the number one way. You know what I mean? Why do you feel obligated to do that? You don't have to. That doesn't mean you love him just because you do that. Hello? Hello?

27:22 Caller Right?

27:23 James Van Praagh I mean, no, think about it. Hello? I mean, if that comes down to that in the relationship, that's pretty bad. Right?

27:30 Caller Right.

27:30 James Van Praagh If it comes down to that, forgive the pun, but if it comes down to that.

27:36 Drew If it gets down to that.

27:37 James Van Praagh It gets down to that. That shows what that relationship is made of. It's not a solid ground. Why are you in it?

27:44 Drew Talk to him. Come on. Let's take a more interesting call. This is Beth. She has got another James call.

27:49 James Van Praagh Beth tasted my mouth. Okay.

27:51 Drew Nice. Here we go. Beth.

27:54 James Van Praagh Hi. My mom passed away on October 12th, and I just wanted to make sure she was okay.

28:01 James Van Praagh Is this cancer she had?

28:04 James Van Praagh Very close to it.

28:05 James Van Praagh What was like a blood thing with your mom? Did they give her blood and something with her blood?

28:10 James Van Praagh It's amyloidosis.

28:12 Drew Amyloid. Interesting. Wow.

28:14 James Van Praagh Dr. Drew, what is that? I don't even know what that is.

28:15 Drew Well, it's an abnormal production of a circulating in the blood, proteins, there's the blood part.

28:21 James Van Praagh I saw blood cells.

28:22 Drew Yeah. It's very unusual. It's very rare to die of amyloid, and it has to, it's laid down in the kidneys and other places, sort of basically clogs the systems. Let's think of it that way. What was the manifestation of her amyloid?

28:34 James Van Praagh They don't know. They said it was in primary.

28:37 Drew It wasn't something called familial Mediterranean fever or something like that?

28:40 James Van Praagh Nothing with the brain, and anything with the head or the brain which had headaches at all?

28:44 James Van Praagh She had seizures.

28:45 James Van Praagh Yeah, because I see her head being affected and brain being affected by this.

28:48 Drew It goes to the brain for sure.

28:50 James Van Praagh Oh, definitely. And you've had dreams of your mother, Beth.

28:54 James Van Praagh Yeah.

28:54 James Van Praagh Yeah. So when you have dreams of spirit, that means they're around you. That means when you see them at night, when you're in your dream state, that you're with them, and your spirits communicate that way. So when you dream of them, that means they've crossed into the light. So they're there. And your mother is very next to you and she's with you a lot. I mean, I got to tell you this, I just got this very strong feeling. And I don't know whether the stuffed animals you have in your bed or on your bed or around there. You know about that? A stuffed bear or something. Yeah. Because she says, I'm right next to that bear or the stuffed bear or something. And she's right next to that. For some reason, she's going to that stuffed animal.

29:27 Drew Beth, you know what she's talking about? About what James is talking about?

29:30 James Van Praagh Actually, my daughter has a clown that my mom gave her, that my aunt gave my mom, that my mom gave her.

29:35 James Van Praagh Okay. Did you notice that something, was it moving or did something happen recently to it or it fell down or?

29:41 James Van Praagh I just cleaned it.

29:42 James Van Praagh Okay. All right.

29:43 Caller Well, that's the other. Yeah.

29:46 James Van Praagh That's something to reference with that. That's your mother referencing that, that you know about that. So she's around. Watch that clown. Something will happen. She's around you. And I think it was her time to go. You know, but she still looks after you now. I mean, that's, you know, sometimes I have found in my work of doing this 22 years that a parent can sometimes be, and this happened to me, my mother, when she passed over. And she said to me, I could be more of a parent now than I was when I was living on Earth. I can do more things for you. I can influence things for you. And that's what your mother is. That's me mother wanted to be. So she's okay.

30:17 Drew What's that Beth?

30:18 James Van Praagh What?

30:20 James Van Praagh She's fine. No more pain. No more, they don't have any more pain. It's a physical thing. She's fine. She's young again, too. Your mom's still very young and I swear I'm very young. I don't know if she's going to be coloring her hair, too. She doesn't have to color her hair anymore. Isn't that weird? Weird stuff I get.

30:36 Drew But does she color her hair a lot, Beth?

30:38 Caller No, I do.

30:39 James Van Praagh Oh, you color your hair a lot.

30:41 Drew Maybe you don't need to color your hair anymore.

30:42 James Van Praagh What? You just did it recently or something?

30:44 Caller I was getting ready, too.

30:46 James Van Praagh Oh, that's weird. Colored hair. She doesn't have to color her hair. That's what I heard in my head.

30:51 Drew So maybe your mom is telling something to James that he's supposed to tell you, but did your mom bug you about it?

30:55 James Van Praagh So she's wrapped in colored hair and...

30:57 Drew Did your mom bug you about your hair coloring?

31:00 James Van Praagh She didn't like it when you did it.

31:01 She didn't like it real dark.

31:02 James Van Praagh That's right. She didn't like it when you did it.

31:04 Caller Yeah.

31:04 James Van Praagh When I first did it, it was real dark, and she usually didn't like it real dark.

31:09 James Van Praagh And you saved the flowers for the funeral or something?

31:12 Caller Oh.

31:13 James Van Praagh Jimi Rose or something you saved. You dried the flower?

31:16 Caller Yeah.

31:17 James Van Praagh Because that's what I'm getting real strong.

31:20 And I've got all of the dried flowers.

31:21 James Van Praagh And it's in a book, and some kind of book or pressing she's talking about.

31:24 Drew All of the dried roses?

31:25 James Van Praagh And they're flat like the pictures. You have snapshots or photographs, but they're not put together in a book. They're like all thrown together in a pile or something. Yes. You understand that? And she said, well, you thought about putting them in a book, but you haven't done it yet.

31:36 Drew So does she want her to put them in a book?

31:37 James Van Praagh Yeah. She said, what are you waiting for?

31:40 Caller You understand that?

31:42 Caller Yeah, I do.

31:44 James Van Praagh All right. I'm telling you. And then you look for the quarters. She comes in with a quarter. So when you find the quarters on the floor, it's your mother. I've heard of dimes and pennies. I've never heard of quarters, but she's telling me quarters.

31:53 Drew All right, Beth.

31:54 James Van Praagh Good luck now. Thanks, Beth. Be good.

31:57 Drew OK, we're going to weave in Loveline with James.

32:00 Caller Please, please.

32:01 James Van Praagh Katie, those two calls are very diverse, weren't they?

32:04 Drew Yes. You're cool. Very interesting.

32:05 James Van Praagh So that taste of my mouth, I'm trying to get rid of. OK.

32:07 Drew The semen taste. Yeah, well, we don't know. We said it wasn't semen. It wasn't semen. It was female ejaculation.

32:12 James Van Praagh We thank you. We thank you. It makes it much better.

32:14 Drew This is Loveline. James, relax.

32:16 James Van Praagh Yes, yes, exactly.

32:17 Drew Katie, what's up, Katie?

32:19 Caller Well, I'm a lesbian and...

32:23 Drew Nice. Good times.

32:23 Caller I've known my lesbian for a long time and I've had intercourse before with other sexual objects and I've broken my hymen, but recently I did a stupid thing and I got really drunk and I had sex with a guy and I bled during intercourse and I've broken my hymen in the past and I guess I can't know if that was normal, if intercourse can cause that or...

32:43 Drew It can cause that. Were you coming up on your period?

32:45 Caller No, not at all.

32:47 Drew Are you on medication or anything were you on?

32:50 James Van Praagh I'm taking beta blockers.

32:53 Caller For what?

32:54 Caller For migraines.

32:56 Drew For migraines, okay.

32:57 James Van Praagh Now what does that do, Drew? That opens up the blood vessels?

33:01 Drew Just medicines can contribute to instability of the uterus really and it's more hormones than anything. Antibiotics can do that too. Beta blockers don't typically do that, but it's intercourse can stimulate bleeding. It just can. It usually does it as the periods approach or it does it around medication, but it can happen spontaneous as well. Did you have any pain?

33:20 Caller There was some, yeah.

33:22 Drew So you wonder, but you've been using objects, dildos or something, right?

33:27 Caller Right.

33:27 Drew And never had any pain with that?

33:29 Caller Well, other than the first time.

33:31 Drew The first time. So it's not likely to be anything traumatic. It's just one of those things.

33:37 James Van Praagh And it's stopped down, right? You're not bleeding now.

33:40 Caller No, no, not at all. I'm just curious if I should get checked out or...

33:45 Drew You know, do you get pap spurs every year?

33:47 Caller Yeah.

33:48 Drew Have they been normal?

33:50 Caller Yes.

33:50 Drew Did you wear condom with this guy?

33:52 Caller Yes.

33:53 Drew Then I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I don't feel bad.

33:56 James Van Praagh I don't feel... I feel pretty good.

33:59 Drew You do? Even after...

34:00 James Van Praagh I think she's pretty clean. Yeah, pretty clear.

34:02 Drew Even after that crazy taste in your mouth and everything.

34:05 James Van Praagh Yeah, I'm having some coffee, so it's an equalizer.

34:09 Drew This is Sharon 16.

34:10 James Van Praagh Sharon? Hi.

34:12 James Van Praagh Hey, Sharon.

34:13 James Van Praagh Yo. Wait, I don't know who you are, so...

34:16 James Van Praagh That's okay. I don't know who you are, so we're equal.

34:19 Drew James Van Praagh is the inspiration and the producer of Ghost Whisper. He also was the show Beyond. And a lot of people know him now. He's a Friday 8 p.m. CBS.

34:28 James Van Praagh You remember Whoopi Goldberg in the movie Ghost? James Van Praagh. You remember Whoopi Goldberg in the movie?

34:34 James Van Praagh I congratulate you very well.

34:36 James Van Praagh Oh, thank you. Thank you, sweetie.

34:39 Drew Let me just also say that James is a prolific author about all the stuff that he does, and you can get more on him and his books at vanpragh.com.

34:47 James Van Praagh vanpragh.com.

34:49 Drew Spell it for them.

34:51 James Van Praagh I was just going to do that. You must be psychic, Drew. V-A-N.

34:53 Drew I'm intuitive.

34:55 James Van Praagh Psycho or psychic. I don't know, one or the other. V-A-N-P-R-A-A-G-H. vanpragh.com. We're talking to have you go there. And a lot of people wonder about people do readings for them and messages. A lot of people on my website who have tested three times, three levels of testing to make sure they're pretty decent people. So if anyone is interested, check out my website because we have chat rooms and get a lot of help that way.

35:15 James Van Praagh Okay. Thank you.

35:16 James Van Praagh Yeah.

35:17 Drew And your question.

35:18 James Van Praagh Okay. I got a really odd question. Do you want me to tell you my story first?

35:23 Drew In brief.

35:24 James Van Praagh Okay. Basically, I'm going out with this boy who's 17. He's a year older than me. And he is basically saying that whenever I call him, because he's never home, so I can't go visit him. But whenever I call him, he's always saying that he's busy.

35:43 Drew Or with his wife or girlfriend or whatever.

35:47 James Van Praagh But yeah, with his friends or...

35:49 Drew No, no, no, his girlfriend.

35:51 James Van Praagh No, cheating.

35:53 James Van Praagh Cheating.

35:53 James Van Praagh I'm kind of figuring that he's cheating on me.

35:55 James Van Praagh Cheating, cheating.

35:56 James Van Praagh I know, I know, I know.

36:00 James Van Praagh So now that we know that.

36:01 Drew Or I get the feeling, hang on a second, Sharon. My intuition, James, is that he's cheating on his girlfriend with her.

36:09 James Van Praagh Yeah, I think it plays both ways.

36:11 Drew She's actually the object of the cheating, not the other way around.

36:16 James Van Praagh I think both ways, for sure.

36:19 James Van Praagh Can I finish yet?

36:20 Drew Please.

36:21 James Van Praagh Come right ahead.

36:22 James Van Praagh Are you sure?

36:24 Drew No, actually, I'm not. Because here's why. I got to take a break. So we're going to come back to you, Sharon, in just a second. You're such a delight. And we'll be with James Van Praagh, Friday, 8 p.m. Friday, 8 p.m. CBS Ghost Whisperer. It was very interesting.

36:39 James Van Praagh I want the taste out of my mouth right now.

36:41 Drew James, I, this is interesting. I'm actually very interested in the stuff that you bring up. So we'll be more of this and we'll finish the call with Sharon after this.

36:54 Caller Please hold.

36:57 Drew That's right, it's Loveline. The phone number here is 1-800-LOVE-191. James Van Praagh in the studio, Ghost Whisperer, Friday, 8 p.m. CBS. Touch Feel, talk to the man who is the inspiration for it all.

37:09 James Van Praagh I beg your pardon.

37:11 Drew I'm just saying. Okay, let's finish with, I'm just saying. Let's finish with Sharon who's 16. So Sharon, tell us now what you want to ask.

37:20 James Van Praagh Basically, I want to ask is, of course, he doesn't ignore me at school, so why would he? I'm like right there anyway.

37:31 Drew Wait, let's reset this whole thing. Whenever you call your boyfriend, of how long?

37:36 James Van Praagh Whenever I call him.

37:37 Drew Wait, how long has he been your boyfriend?

37:38 James Van Praagh He's been my boyfriend for about, we've been going out since, for about a year and a half now.

37:45 Drew A year and a half. And has the relationship been better than it has been lately?

37:50 James Van Praagh Yeah, it actually has. I mean, he was much kinder to me, and he would spend more time with me instead of just ignore me. And now, whenever I try to discuss my problems with him, because at school I get picked on, because I have some strange, strange friends.

38:10 James Van Praagh No, really?

38:11 James Van Praagh Yeah, really.

38:12 James Van Praagh Wow, I never would have thought that.

38:15 James Van Praagh They're like practically all of the losers of the school.

38:19 Drew Why do you hang out with them?

38:20 James Van Praagh Because they're my friends. I mean, I can actually get along with them, and they won't laugh at me. I mean...

38:27 Drew Why do people laugh at you?

38:28 James Van Praagh Because I kind of have a problem with talking to myself. So, and when I'm...

38:35 James Van Praagh No, really? Why do you care what people think?

38:40 James Van Praagh I don't really care what people think, because it's like... I mean, people make fun of my mom. I just say, huh, oh well.

38:46 Drew What's up with your mom?

38:48 James Van Praagh I don't really love her, because she's been a complete itch towards me lately.

38:54 Drew Sharon, if we were to talk to this young man and ask him about his girlfriend, would he bring up your name?

39:03 James Van Praagh He might. He might not. I don't know.

39:06 James Van Praagh Maybe we should call him.

39:06 Drew You see my point? This guy you're calling your boyfriend may not think of you as his girlfriend.

39:11 James Van Praagh Yeah, maybe not anymore.

39:13 James Van Praagh I think it's time to get rid of him. Move on.

39:15 Drew Absolutely. This just sounds like an abusive situation. That's the hard thing about being 16. Things come to an end, but you don't know how to end them. First of all, you don't know when they've ended. You don't see all the earmarks. And then you don't know how to take it to a conclusion.

39:29 James Van Praagh Sharon, do you write poetry?

39:32 Drew Hold on here. Go ahead.

39:34 James Van Praagh Do you write poetry?

39:36 James Van Praagh Yeah, you write a lot in a journal or a book, right? Like, Loose Seat Binder?

39:39 James Van Praagh In my English class, when are 30 minutes of writing in the beginning of my English class, I actually write these really bizarre stories about listening to Loveline. So, yeah.

39:51 James Van Praagh Oh, we'll see. There you go. My thoughts are not writing.

39:53 James Van Praagh Because, oh yeah, and Dr. Drew, I have to thank you for bringing Loveline to, like bringing Loveline to a famous thing here in Denver, Colorado.

40:04 Drew It's my pleasure. I'm glad you're listening. I know you listen carefully though and kind of learn something from him.

40:09 James Van Praagh I do listen. I mean, I stay up till midnight, not in standard time, listening to Loveline. And I'm just, I'm just laying here in my bed while I'm thinking about everything you're saying with Sharon.

40:20 Drew All right. Let me, let me.

40:23 James Van Praagh Well, I have a question. Can I ask you a question? Is there a counselor at school? Do you have a counselor over there?

40:27 Drew Thank you, James.

40:27 James Van Praagh Right, this counselor that you can talk to?

40:29 James Van Praagh I can't understand.

40:30 James Van Praagh Is there a counselor at school you can speak with? I think it's a great idea.

40:34 James Van Praagh I don't trust them.

40:36 James Van Praagh Well, they're in a good position. They wouldn't be there if they weren't decent.

40:38 James Van Praagh I don't trust them.

40:40 Drew Do you trust me?

40:41 James Van Praagh Yes, actually, I do.

40:42 Drew Okay, then find somebody, find an adult you can trust and you can form a close relationship with. I'm a rapist. Oh, pfft. All right, but Sharon, here's the deal. Here's what I want you to do. If nothing else.

40:53 James Van Praagh I never knew that about you. Okay.

40:55 Drew If you do nothing else, Sharon, I want you to take one thing away from this call. Will you do that for me?

40:59 James Van Praagh Yeah.

41:00 Drew What was that?

41:01 James Van Praagh I'm sorry, it's kind of hard, but when I stretch, I kind of do a little squeak.

41:05 James Van Praagh What's the next phone line we have?

41:08 Drew Sharon, I want you to take, I'm trying. I want you to do one thing. I want you to keep some positive people around you, not just hang out with people that other people think are losers or that who don't laugh at you. Hey, listen to me. I want you to find some people you wouldn't normally hang out with, people who seem very positive and who seem to enjoy themselves and like themselves, and just hang out with them a little bit. I have found, James, I have found that people, when they hang out, rather than staying in their comfort zone, when they hang out and form relationships with people they wouldn't usually hang out with, I mean, hanging out with, I would recommend to some people to hang out with Sharon just to get a change for themselves. They see themselves differently after doing that. And as a result, they can kind of make change and see where they need to make change. It's been my experience.

41:51 James Van Praagh And I have a really great thing, Sharon, that you might want to do this little project every morning. I've told clients this many years. It works. Look in the mirror and say, I love you, Sharon, three times in the morning, three times at night. When you wash your face in the morning, wash your face at night, I love you, Sharon. And say that, and that will change, eventually it will change that sense of yourself, too. And like attracts like. And you'll attract people to you who love you for yourself. Do you understand that?

42:13 Drew She's, she's, I'm having her on hold because we're getting too involved with her.

42:16 James Van Praagh Yeah, I think she's getting more involved with you, Drew. So I think we should maybe go on.

42:21 Drew Move along.

42:21 James Van Praagh Move along.

42:22 Drew This is Bonnie, who's 23.

42:24 James Van Praagh Move along. I can only take so much.

42:27 Drew Bonnie?

42:28 James Van Praagh Hello?

42:29 Drew Hey, Bonnie, what's going on?

42:30 James Van Praagh Hey, Bonnie.

42:31 James Van Praagh Hi, how are you guys doing? I have a question for James. My cousin passed away in August of this year, and I found out some stuff about how he passed away, and I was just wondering...

42:45 James Van Praagh Were there drugs involved with him?

42:47 James Van Praagh Yes.

42:48 James Van Praagh Yeah, because there was a lot of drugs around him.

42:50 James Van Praagh Yeah.

42:50 James Van Praagh And was he killed by someone? Was he hanging out with the wrong people too? Was there a crime around him associated with him?

42:59 James Van Praagh I don't know specifically because no one will really talk to me about it, and I was just told that it was an accidental overdose.

43:09 James Van Praagh I think the drugs are involved.

43:11 Drew Is he a heroin addict?

43:13 James Van Praagh I don't know specifically what he was taking, but I found out that he could pop at least 100, 150 pills at a time.

43:23 Drew So, he's a severe, severe addict. Okay. Well, people, that's a disease that is deadly. And he died of it.

43:29 James Van Praagh Uh-huh. I think he did die of it. I think it was a drug overdose.

43:32 James Van Praagh Yeah.

43:33 James Van Praagh But he's better now, Bonnie. The most important thing to know is he's better now.

43:37 He's better now.

43:38 James Van Praagh He's better now. And he's out of his pain. He's finding himself finally. You know, when you pass over, you see yourself in your life. You just live and you see the things. This is a school room down here. This is the place we learn our lessons. And some lessons are harder than others. And for him, it could have been learning about his self-esteem, about his own empowerment and so forth. And you know, I think when he leaves the body, when we all leave the body, it's in the way we're perfect. And we see what we did and what we didn't do. And he can get help on the other side. That's what happens. I think many people who are addicts and they pass over, and what their job is on the other side, they will help other people that pass over in that condition.

44:13 Drew And so you wonder if it was accidental and James is saying yes.

44:16 James Van Praagh Yes. And he's okay and he's...

44:19 James Van Praagh No, he's okay. He's fine. He's around. He has a lot of catching up to do, I feel. Like he missed out the last couple of years of his life. I feel he missed out.

44:27 Drew Oh, boy.

44:28 James Van Praagh It gives him something missed out.

44:28 Drew Doing drugs like that is intoxicating. He's just in comatose the whole time. Yeah.

44:32 James Van Praagh And out of school or out of work or he's missed out.

44:35 Drew Hey, James. James, looking at what we do, as you call, down here, I kind of like this life. You know what I mean? If this is just school, you know what I mean? I don't want this to be just school. Well, this is good enough. This is more than school.

44:47 James Van Praagh Oh, it's well, you learn things and things will be very easy. Things will be hard. But you can do even make good changes here. You can help people affect lives and do wonderful things here.

44:56 Drew But I like this one. I like this life.

44:59 James Van Praagh Oh, good. I'm glad you like this one because your last one was terrible, Drew. I got to tell you.

45:03 Drew Really?

45:03 James Van Praagh I see that sword in my back. I'm still pulling it out from the last lifetime together with you in Rome.

45:09 Drew In Rome? We were in Rome?

45:11 James Van Praagh Rome. Soldiers.

45:12 Really?

45:14 Drew How fascinating. I was drawn to that period. I've talked more to you about this. Alright. James Van Praagh, Ghost Whisperer, the inspiration and creator of that show, Friday 8 p.m. CBS.

45:24 James Van Praagh vanpraagh.com.

45:25 Drew vanpraagh.com. P-R-A-A-G-H. And check out his books. And we're going to be back with James and more of you after this. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. James Van Praagh, who just finished telling me I was Caligula in my last life. And I guess I wasn't too good of a guy. One of many, apparently. I'm an old soul.

45:46 James Van Praagh A bullet, a sword, you name it. You've been there.

45:49 Drew I was, well, a sword. I sort of get that part. But, okay. So anyway, James is the inspiration.

45:56 James Van Praagh So, I think, Drew, I think I need medication after this show. So that's what we should We'll talk about it.

46:01 Drew You can do that to people. You should have seen that coming before you got up here.

46:05 James Van Praagh Oh, I did. Are you kidding?

46:07 Drew Ha, ha. Okay, he's the inspiration and executive producer of Ghost Whisperer. And my wife just called me, paged me, and asked that I ask. No, no, no, no. She rarely does this, but she's interested in James' opinions about things. God forbid. God knows she's not interested in mine. Well. Well, you know. She's a doctor. She had an experience while watching your show. She fell asleep while in the middle of your show, turned everything off, and the TV burst back on again at the end of the show, and said, it just to the point where the mother was saying, I just wanted to say goodbye. And her mother-

46:42 James Van Praagh Did her mother pass over?

46:43 Drew Yes.

46:44 James Van Praagh Ah, that's it.

46:45 Drew That's her.

46:45 James Van Praagh So spirits can affect things electrically. We do that all the time in the show. Somehow the spirits can affect the magnetic energy, magnetic field. And I don't know how they do it, but they do do it. They can affect anything electrical. TVs, radios, tele, you know, telephone, answering machines. Many times people hear songs on radio, it just happens to be the same song. Their loved one loves, they recognize with them.

47:07 Drew Well, my wife is convinced that her mother is around that kind of stuff. Oh, you bet.

47:12 James Van Praagh She also has her mother's handwriting on something.

47:16 Drew You mean like we keep something with her mom's handwriting?

47:17 James Van Praagh Yeah, her mother's handwriting. Her handwriting is on something.

47:21 Drew Like since she's died?

47:21 James Van Praagh Like a book or a card or a letter. No, she had when she was alive, but your wife has her handwriting.

47:27 Drew Okay. I know she used to write on all the pictures. I used to drive my wife crazy. And is it, was that her saying goodbye? That was her saying goodbye.

47:37 James Van Praagh That was her. Of course it was. Look what happened. That was her-

47:40 Drew I'm trying to channel my wife right now, you understand. So I'm trying to ask the questions when I get home tonight. She has to go, why don't you ask about- So is there anything else-

47:46 James Van Praagh She can call me anytime. She can call me anytime and we can talk about it. But- Oh, she will. They do that, sure, for sure. And that's- they do affect things that way. I mean, it's a weird- I tell you this story because it's a great story and how spirits can get through to people in different ways. And they're, you know, everyone's different so they come through differently. I did a cruise once in the Mediterranean with Dr. Brian Weiss who does past life regression. He's like the number one in the world with past life regression. And we had about 200 people for this thing. And a lot of people came for readings or messages from their loved one and there was a couple there who lost their son and he used to be an archaeologist and he really was a specific type of rock. He would look for or dig out whatever it was. Anyway, he never came through in the reading and they were upset. And I said, don't worry because he might come through in other ways. They choose other ways to come through sometimes. They went back to their stateroom to get ready for dinner. And the father, in the middle of the ocean now, the father's washing his hands. He pulls a towel and out of the towel he drops a rock, drops a rock, the exact type of rock that their son specialized in.

48:48 Drew Wow, weird.

48:49 James Van Praagh Now how can we explain that? It's materialized right there in the middle of the ocean. How can you explain that? You can.

48:56 Drew And then, weird.

48:57 James Van Praagh So they come through in different ways. Also, a lot of people will experience spirits. They see someone across the street and looks just like their loved one. That's another way they can super transpose their face onto someone else's in a way. You just get a glimmer of it. It looks like you're loved in the past. They do that too. It comes in many ways. And then with the show, my show Ghost Whisper, we demonstrate that. In a lot of the shows, I'll tell the writers, we have to demonstrate the spirit messages this way. They come through in that way, electrical or with wing gusts or whatever it is. They come through in many different ways.

49:24 Drew And you have the good fortune of two of my favorite actresses, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Aisha Tyler. And you got to get them both for this show.

49:31 James Van Praagh I will. And they would love to do it. I know they would.

49:34 Drew Aisha has done it a few times in the past. In fact, she and I appeared on stage together once we introduced, I don't know, it was a band or something. We had a really nice sort of vibe going. And I want to get her back on the show.

49:45 James Van Praagh Virgo, just like you.

49:47 Drew There you go. All right, let's take some calls here. This is Danielle, 17.

49:51 Hi.

49:52 Drew Hey, what's going on?

49:54 Since August, I've had sex with seven guys.

49:58 Drew Wow, you're 17.

50:00 James Van Praagh Busy girl.

50:01 Two of them last week on the same day.

50:04 James Van Praagh Wow. Let's get some hobbies. Take up knitting.

50:08 No, I mean, I work full time. Well, I did until I lost my job for sleeping in because I was with the guy I had sex with last week.

50:17 Drew What kind of work did you do?

50:20 Pizza girl at the mall.

50:23 Drew You weren't delivering pizza or something?

50:25 No, I was making the pizza and I was a cashier.

50:28 James Van Praagh Any issues with your dad? I keep on getting dad again here.

50:31 No, no, no, dad. No, I mean, he thought I was a virgin up until and I went to my first test, but.

50:42 Drew So what do you think is going on?

50:44 I don't know, I just, I don't know how to stop myself from.

50:47 Caller What are you looking for?

50:48 James Van Praagh What are you looking for, Danielle?

50:50 Well, I mean, I'd like to have a boyfriend, but then again, when I'm in bed with them and they suck, I just, I just, whatever, I forget. I just wanted to get some dick.

51:03 Drew You were in bed with them and they what?

51:05 What?

51:05 Drew You said when you're in bed with them, then you forget them.

51:08 No, I mean, and they suck, I just, I just move on to the next. Yeah, they suck. I've had sex with seven guys and none of them were good.

51:18 Drew What do you mean? What is that? What are you looking for? It sounds like you're looking for some sort of connection that you don't get because you're just having sex.

51:26 James Van Praagh I think it's unrealistic too. It's an unrealistic, what you're looking for is unrealistic, the expectation that you're looking for.

51:30 Drew Why don't you try having a relationship first, then having the sex?

51:33 Caller Yeah, that's a good idea.

51:35 Drew What a novel plan.

51:37 James Van Praagh How about that Danielle? Could you do that? Could you do that though? Could you just have a relationship first and wait for the sex? Can you do that you think?

51:44 No, because if the relationship goes good and the sex is bad, then I just want to get out of it and say next.

51:50 Drew What makes it bad?

51:52 The fact that they go so quickly.

51:57 Drew So, why don't you work that out? That's the idea in a relationship. You work it out with that person. You go again, you do other things, you get that figured out.

52:10 James Van Praagh Danielle, do you ever feel used?

52:11 I don't like this kind of guy.

52:13 James Van Praagh Do you ever feel used in a relationship? The sex, do you feel like you're being used? Like you're just a machine?

52:21 A couple of the guys I did, but then I just kind of got over it. And now I don't really think about it all that much.

52:27 Drew All right, let's kind of flip over the cards here. You weren't sexually abused growing up or you were?

52:31 No, I wasn't.

52:33 Drew And you had a stable family system?

52:36 Caller It's been all right.

52:38 James Van Praagh You have an older brother?

52:39 Yeah, I have an older brother.

52:41 James Van Praagh Uh-huh. I bet you do.

52:42 Drew Did he do anything to you?

52:44 James Van Praagh Uh-huh.

52:44 No, he was in prison for four years.

52:47 Drew Oh, boy. What's going on there?

52:48 James Van Praagh Oh, pretty good, Drew. You know, I got to tell you, I am professional.

52:51 Drew Excellent.

52:52 James Van Praagh That's pretty good.

52:53 James Van Praagh I am professional.

52:54 James Van Praagh So I think something happened with him when you were a young girl.

52:58 Drew What was he in prison for?

53:00 House burglary, drugs, I don't know.

53:05 Drew And how much older is he than you?

53:07 About seven years.

53:10 Drew We would bet, Danielle, that this boy did something to you when you were younger. Maybe he was on drugs at the time, but whatever. He probably molested you. That would sort of fit with why you are so disgusted by men, why you are so compulsed, why you reenact this trauma and then are disgusted by them.

53:24 James Van Praagh And you are looking for something, you are looking for gratification, looking for validation from these guys. A lot of people confuse it too, with love. This is what I'm going to find love this way, but that's not love. When you are abused, I know Drew, you know better than I do about this, when you are young and you are abused, sometimes the young mind will confuse that with love and wanting validation.

53:45 Drew Right, and I'm not saying it's more often the case, or I would even say or say usually the case, that you remember abuse, but it's possible that you don't remember it. But the behavior you are manifesting now and the sort of vibe we are getting, and the way you sort of deal with men really suggest that something happened. I don't know what, but something. And I'd very definitely look into it. And can you get access to professional help? Because you're really going down a path here rapidly that's going to, it's not going to go well.

54:15 No, I tried, but I mean...

54:17 Drew You tried therapy?

54:17 The kind of help that I need now is, I mean... That was for my anger management issues. But for sex, I mean, it's weird to be talking about it because...

54:29 James Van Praagh Danielle, everybody does it, Danielle. Sex, everybody has sex.

54:33 Drew You and your cousin, you and your cousin what?

54:35 Me and my cousins, it was a bunch of us. We all got drunk and I ended up passing out on the floor and he came up and kind of took off my clothes and...

54:47 Drew How old were you?

54:49 Fifteen, but...

54:51 Drew Alright, so you were raped at fifteen. You were drinking excessively at fifteen. This all was very, very serious stuff, Danielle. This is not just, oh, you know, hey, I'm just sleeping with a lot of guys. There is really, truly genuine psychiatric problems going on here, whether it's alcoholism and trauma or just the trauma. This at seventeen, this is not a good thing. I suggest you get some help and stay with it. Right, James?

55:15 James Van Praagh Yeah, you want to get well, right, Danielle? You want to be good? You want to have a happy life?

55:19 I mean, I tried talking to him about it, but he doesn't want to talk to me.

55:22 James Van Praagh Yeah, but I think maybe if you go out and you look for someone to help you, that you really talk to, like a counselor, like a therapist, who really you can talk to, relate to.

55:29 I tried talking to my boyfriend about it, but...

55:31 James Van Praagh But not your boyfriend, someone professional. Not your boyfriend, honey. Honey, you got to go to someone who's professional. And you know what, also, Danielle, let me tell you this. It'd be really good to go to someone objective who has, you know, who has a very clean, clear slate and can be very objective about it. You know what I mean? So you can see both sides of the coin.

55:47 Drew You're going to have trouble trusting them, but that's going to be the work. That's the task at hand, is to learn to be close and to trust other people. This now is Katrina. Wow, what a name to have this year. Wow. Right?

56:00 James Van Praagh I tell you, unbelievable.

56:02 Drew Maybe it's caller who goes by Katrina. Katrina?

56:04 Caller Hello?

56:05 Drew There you are.

56:06 Caller Hi.

56:07 James Van Praagh Hello, Katrina.

56:09 Caller Hi.

56:10 James Van Praagh What's up?

56:11 Caller Couple of weeks ago, I went to my female doctor because two days prior to my menstrual period as well as during and two days after I have severe abdominal pain and so they're figuring it's endometriosis which is bleeding into my tubes, I guess.

56:29 Drew Well, what happens is that your uterine lining basically gets into the abdomen or into the pelvis and starts and lands on your tubes and lands on the bladder and the colon. It's a really lovely thing and it actually menstruates inside your abdomen. So as your period comes around, it gets inflamed and that's what causes all the pain. And typically, they can do things like put you on birth control pill or put you on a continuous pill or try to shut down your whole system with something called GNRH. But what are they doing with you?

56:57 Caller Actually, what they're doing is that they're going to put me on both birth control pills, but I'm only taking the active pills. I won't be actually having a period for the next-

57:04 Drew Right. You take it continuously for six months, right?

57:07 Caller Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Really, my only question is, is that what kind of side effects am I looking for or will I have any as far as- Because I'm also kind of a very sexual person. And I do have a boyfriend and I haven't really actually talked to him about this yet. I'm kind of afraid to, I guess. And I'm just wondering what kind of side effects I'm going to be looking for.

57:30 Drew You've never been on the birth control pill before?

57:33 Caller I've used the birth control pill before, but not with him.

57:36 Drew Okay, well that's whatever side effects you had then are the side effects you can expect now. Taking the pill continuously, that is not stopping the week that allows you to have a menstrual flow, means nothing. It has no effect, except positive. It decreases the risk of the endometriosis and hopefully gets the endometriosis to sort of dissipate and go away. You can take your pill continuously, essentially indefinitely, but it's only been approved so far, I believe, for six months. But the reality is, there will come a time when we'll be giving this continuously, because you don't have to have a menstrual period. There's no reason for it. You don't want to. Okay? Okay.

58:11 James Van Praagh Hey, Drew, I have a question for you.

58:12 Drew Yes, sir.

58:13 James Van Praagh What's up? Yeah. We're going to fibroid tumors. Would that be anything in this situation? Yeah.

58:19 Drew That's a different thing. Well, it's always a possibility. Did they do an ultrasound on you, Katrina?

58:24 Caller Yes.

58:25 Drew Did you have fibroids? Did you have fibroids?

58:27 Caller No, I don't.

58:28 Drew Yeah, fibroids. She's 23. That'd be awfully rare to have it that young. But that is a cause of abnormal bleeding and whatnot and a pelvic pain. This is now, fibroid is just basically a knot of muscle in the wall of the uterus. This is Cecilia? Is that right? Cecilia, Cecilia, like they spelled it. Well done.

58:47 James Van Praagh Beautiful sounding name.

58:49 Caller Thank you.

58:51 James Van Praagh My brother passed away on June 14th and he's starting to use a transdermal patch for pain and I was wondering if that had anything to do with his death.

59:05 James Van Praagh I don't feel that at all, honey. Not at all.

59:08 Drew What did he die from? What was the problem?

59:10 James Van Praagh It said it was cardiopulmonary arrest.

59:14 Drew But what was the underlying disease? Why was he taking the patch?

59:18 James Van Praagh It was for pain. He had scoliosis and he was on dialysis since he was 14. He was 27.

59:25 Drew Yeah, but people would, why didn't he get a kidney transplant?

59:29 James Van Praagh He did and then he rejected it and he said it was trouble and bloating and everything so he just decided to just keep going to dialysis.

59:37 Drew Well, people can only, I don't want to generalize too much, but dialysis has its own risks associated with it. And yes, pain medicines, pain patches, there can be accidental overdoses with that, but that's pretty unusual unless somebody is an addict and overusing their medication.

59:53 James Van Praagh I don't feel at all that it was a pain patch.

59:55 Drew Other than somebody with a complicated medical history and on dialysis for many years, there's a lot of things that can go wrong that can cause death.

1:00:01 James Van Praagh They were saying something about like his heart was enlarged or a quaternary or something.

1:00:05 Drew Okay, so that's why he died. That has nothing to do with the patch. That's congestive heart failure. Yeah. Whoops. Congestive heart failure, yes?

1:00:14 James Van Praagh Yeah. Yeah, that's what they were saying.

1:00:16 Drew Right.

1:00:17 James Van Praagh But he couldn't walk when he was alive at the end. He wasn't able to walk, was he?

1:00:21 James Van Praagh He was able to walk a little bit.

1:00:23 James Van Praagh But I want to tell you something. I see him walking and he wants to tell you that he's walking and running and he's able to play sports. And I don't know if he had asthma at one point in his life too.

1:00:33 James Van Praagh Yeah, a little bit.

1:00:35 Drew Well, you know, the heart failure makes him short of breath.

1:00:37 James Van Praagh Okay, because he's not breathing like that anymore. He's okay and he's normal. I mean, it's just, I keep getting this picture of this guy just running and walking. So don't think of him the way he was with the disease, but really he's whole. I mean, that's what I see, this guy. He's perfect.

1:00:55 Drew Okay.

1:00:56 James Van Praagh Also, I wanted to know if he knew about my mom's health after he died.

1:01:02 Drew Your mom's what?

1:01:02 James Van Praagh Health.

1:01:03 James Van Praagh Was there a heart problem with your mom?

1:01:05 James Van Praagh No, she was diagnosed with cancer.

1:01:09 James Van Praagh And is she getting treatment now for that?

1:01:11 James Van Praagh Yes.

1:01:13 James Van Praagh What kind of cancer?

1:01:15 James Van Praagh It's a neuroendocrine tumor.

1:01:18 Drew Neuroendocrine tumor in her leg or something?

1:01:21 James Van Praagh No, it was in her lymph nodes and it spread to her gallbladder and she had it taken out.

1:01:27 Drew Neuroendocrine.

1:01:28 James Van Praagh Now, what is that, Drew?

1:01:30 Drew I don't quite know what she's describing. Like, was it called carcinoid?

1:01:34 James Van Praagh I don't believe so. The doctor just said that it was...

1:01:37 Drew Neuroendocrine. Well, I don't know. If it's a tumor and not cancer, it may not be cancer. It may just be a growth.

1:01:42 James Van Praagh It was a tumor. Yeah, he said it was a cancerous tumor.

1:01:45 Drew A cancerous tumor. So that depends what cell type it is. So I don't know what part would you describe in there. Neuroendocrine.

1:01:51 Caller Weird.

1:01:52 Drew All right.

1:01:53 James Van Praagh The spirits are very aware. They're very aware of what happens to us. They're very aware of what's going on around us. They're always around us. They're concerned about us. They still love bonds, continue on. They don't just drop and that's it. They don't think of us. They're honest a lot more many times when they're in spirit. They're honest a lot more than they were in the physical world because they're able to be with us. So he's very aware of that.

1:02:14 Drew Wow, weird. This is Angelus21. Well, neuroendocrine, neuroendocrine, neuro and endocrine tissue comes from the same place and it's sort of a primitive cell type in neuroendocrine, but they would have a name. I don't know quite what she's describing. Angel21.

1:02:29 Caller Hi.

1:02:29 James Van Praagh Nice name, Angel. Nice name. I like the name.

1:02:32 Caller Thanks. I chose it for myself.

1:02:34 James Van Praagh I knew you did.

1:02:36 Drew It's a stripper name on this show.

1:02:38 James Van Praagh Angel.

1:02:39 Caller Yeah.

1:02:40 Caller Okay.

1:02:42 Caller Like, okay, I had a really weird year. Like, my girlfriend, like, okay, I got with this chick and she kind of had-

1:02:51 James Van Praagh You got your what? Your what?

1:02:52 Caller Your what?

1:02:53 Caller I'm a lesbian.

1:02:55 James Van Praagh Your fifth chick? Did you say your fifth chick? Is that what you said?

1:02:58 Caller No, I got with this chick.

1:02:59 James Van Praagh Oh, you got with this chick? Okay, sorry. I think I said your fifth chick.

1:03:02 Drew Angel, are you a stripper, Angel?

1:03:05 Caller No.

1:03:06 Drew Okay, all right, just checking.

1:03:07 James Van Praagh Oh, you should be.

1:03:08 Caller It was an old ambition that never happened.

1:03:10 James Van Praagh There you go, Drew. You're good, Drew.

1:03:12 Caller You are good, wow.

1:03:13 Drew Just following on Anderson's intuition. He's pretty good, too.

1:03:17 James Van Praagh Wow, I'm going to match here, okay.

1:03:20 Caller What's up, Angel? Okay, my girlfriend, well, my ex-girlfriend, like, she, like, went into, she was epileptic and she had a seizure. And when she came out of the seizure, she was speaking, like, Latin and, like, I thought it was Spanish, but I don't know. And so it kept on saying, like, all this weird stuff. And, like, we had had some problems with, like, I don't know, there's just a different energy in my house. And so I borrowed this, like, Buddhist CD from this chick because we were telling her about it. And she had us hold this, like, weird prism crystal.

1:03:52 Caller And then after that happened, like, James, James Van Praagh is saying, I have a good advice for you, Angel.

1:04:02 James Van Praagh And with that name, you should live up to it. I wrote a book called Heaven and Earth, Making the Psychic Connection. And in that book, you can find it in any book store, it talks about how to cleanse your house of any negative energies, how to, the people around you in your life, how to cleanse the negative energy around them, how to take care of yourself, how to meditate, how to purify the energy. And that's all your friend needs, you know. It's energy's thought, and it's really being a thought in the right place.

1:04:24 Drew What was the cause of her seizure?

1:04:27 Caller I don't know, like she held a crystal and then had a seizure and then she had like another one.

1:04:32 James Van Praagh Was she on dilatin? Was she on dilatin?

1:04:36 Caller I, I can't remember if that was one she was allergic to, or like...

1:04:41 Drew So you don't know anything about her history, you don't know why she was having seizures, you don't know what medication she was on, that sort of thing.

1:04:46 Caller I did, but I forgot all that, like, I just wanted to know, was that a real experience, or am I going crazy?

1:04:52 Drew No, she had a seizure. Seizure, and people do all kinds of bizarre things when their brains are discharging in an uncontrolled fashion. They can say strange things, they can behave in strange ways, and all kinds of wild things, wild behaviors, wild actions, wild thoughts and behaviors. So...

1:05:08 James Van Praagh And you want to know if she was possessed, you want to know also if she was possessed, that's what you're asking too. Yeah, that's what I want to ask.

1:05:13 Caller No, that's what you're asking.

1:05:14 James Van Praagh Possibly, possibly, I wouldn't say no, possibly, it's a possibility. I'd have to know her more, I'd have to see her and see how she behaves and so forth.

1:05:25 Drew I don't know, I'm really off the possession thing. You know, the guy that wrote The Road Less Traveled, blanking his name, M. Scott, F. Scott. That's the P.

1:05:33 James Van Praagh Peck.

1:05:34 Drew Peck, M. Scott Peck. I thought, you know, I really respect that guy, he wrote some great stuff, he's a well-trained psychiatrist, and he wrote a book about possession, I thought, oh my God, I gotta read this, maybe there's something to this. And basically all he described was a patient with multiple personality disorder that he took them through. I've seen this a zillion times. Took him through multiple personalities and walked him through all the different persons. And people would have dissociative disorders. It's bizarre when you see them take on these different personalities. And if you evoke it, it gets crazy. And when they reintegrated, they're better. And he talked about it, he just interpreted it in a frame that was non-clinical, not well-trained, not accurate. And I found it actually very disturbing. So, there you go.

1:06:13 James Van Praagh It's got to be very grounded. I mean, this work has to be grounded. If it's not grounded, it doesn't mean much. That's what I find.

1:06:20 Caller Okay, so for the most part, it was a real experience. It could be hurt, it could have been something supernatural. Because, like, it came back later.

1:06:28 Drew Angel, I see this stuff all the time. And magically, it goes away with medication. So, less possession can go away with medication. I'm a little bit suspicious about that because I see this stuff all the time.

1:06:39 James Van Praagh Are you going to give me some of that after the show, Drew, because I need that.

1:06:42 Drew Don't worry, don't worry. I'm figuring out a pharmaceutical plan for it.

1:06:46 James Van Praagh I think I'm possessed already.

1:06:47 James Van Praagh So, all right, James Vaughn-Brog, the whole...

1:06:51 Drew You had to bring that one back.

1:06:53 James Van Praagh Sorry, I was trying to get that taste out of my mouth and it's just lingering there.

1:06:57 Drew Finally fading into the distance. Ghost Whisperer, Friday Nights, 8 p.m. CBS. Anderson, was that you?

1:07:01 Caller Yeah, can I hear your sound effect one time before you go to break?

1:07:07 James Van Praagh I love that.

1:07:08 Drew That's right, it's a good piece of night show. What is that? Very, very interesting. It's possession.

1:07:14 James Van Praagh And so anyway, those gas, I'm sorry.

1:07:17 Drew James Van Praagh, Ghost Whisperer, and we'll be right back.

1:07:20 Caller Yep, Loveline will be back.

1:07:21 Drew Glad to hear it.

1:07:25 Caller Loveline will be right back.

1:07:28 Drew That's right, it's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-E. James Van Praagh in the studio with us tonight. He is the Ghost Whisperer. Would that be accurate?

1:07:38 James Van Praagh Not really, I guess you could say that, but I talk to the people who have already passed into the light. The Ghost Whisperer, what Jennifer plays, is a medium who talks to those who are earthbound spirits. I deal with the ones who have already passed out of the earth.

1:07:49 Drew Then again, Aisha Tyler, my other favorite person, just a delightful person.

1:07:54 James Van Praagh Hey, also, let people know my website because the people who are hearing this for the first time might want a place to go to for grief. There's a chat room there and there's always resources there. My website is vanpraagh.com.

1:08:06 Drew Spell it?

1:08:07 James Van Praagh It's vanpraagh.com. There are a lot of people there who have very similar situations and losses of all different types. It's a good place.

1:08:18 Drew Excellent. We'll take a call. Becky, 25.

1:08:22 Caller I had a question about like deja vu.

1:08:25 Caller Is that based on like dreams or something?

1:08:28 James Van Praagh Well, deja vu from my understanding is that we're not just linear. We're multidimensional and the past, present, and future are all one, okay? So let's say at night when you go to sleep, your spirit will leave your physical body and you're aware of a consciousness which is there's no time involved with that consciousness. So you could say the past, the present, the future are all one. So when you experience something, it can be because you already knew what was going to happen. Does that make sense to you?

1:08:55 Caller Yeah, because that's sort of thing.

1:08:56 James Van Praagh It's not a linear time. Time is not linear in that sense, in that level.

1:09:00 Caller Yes, it like takes a while before it actually happens.

1:09:03 James Van Praagh Yeah, and also deja vu, like we talked earlier about, you know, we're joking about our past life experiences and, you know, a soul is timeless and many times you'll go to a certain place, a certain city, or a certain country and you feel there's this something about it that you feel a liking about or I've been here before, I have, I really feel comfortable in this environment. And many times I find that indeed you have had a past life in that situation.

1:09:28 Drew I think, and let me give you a little, Becky, a little bit of a medical interpretation because I think we have to define our terms here very, very carefully because deja vu and jamais vu are both experiences that are also associated with seizure. So the-

1:09:40 James Van Praagh Jamais vu, what is jamais vu? Is that New Orleans?

1:09:43 Drew No, it's something when you're doing something you've done before but you feel like you've never done it.

1:09:48 James Van Praagh Really?

1:09:48 Drew I've never heard that. So it's the opposite of deja vu. And I had a patient that was having continuous seizures and every minute of every day she had deja vu associated with all of her experiences. So all day long she was going-

1:09:59 Caller I had a couple of dreams of, like, if it didn't happen in my head.

1:10:02 Drew Hang on, hang on, hang on. And so all day long she was feeling like this has happened before, this has happened before, this has happened before. Oh my God, you just said that. I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. Well, that was just a feeling she was having because she was in seizure all the time. That's different than having a premonition, a complete thought, about something that's going to happen and then it happens. That's different.

1:10:22 James Van Praagh Well, that you've met someplace before, or you've met this person before, or you have a familiarity with that person or place. Is that what you're talking about? You're also talking about premonitions.

1:10:32 Caller One day it actually started to happen.

1:10:34 Drew What was the thing?

1:10:36 Caller I kept on having a dream that I was getting on the exit ramp to get onto another ramp on the freeway, and another car cut into the, you know, the triangle lane where you're not supposed to be. And it hit my car and it went over, and like my two-year-old died and my mom was hurt real bad. Just a bunch of different things, but I didn't know what happened to me. And then one day on that same ramp, it actually started to happen. And I hit my brake just in time to let the car go over. And it gave me this odd feeling, you know?

1:11:08 James Van Praagh It could have been a warning too, you know, you were obviously being protected and you were being shown that, to protect yourself and to save yourself. And premonition is very real, you know, premonitions do happen. People have intuitions and premonitions about things before they do happen. It was good that you recognized it, that you saw it in the conscious state, that you recognized it, because it saved your life, obviously.

1:11:28 Drew This now is Jeremy 32, it changed her baby's life apparently. Jeremy 32.

1:11:32 Caller Hi, how you doing?

1:11:33 Drew Good, what's up?

1:11:34 Caller Good. Good. Yeah, I had my baby die back in April, but my question is really just...

1:11:41 Drew What happened?

1:11:42 Caller Kim, placental abruption right at birth. Like, yeah, it was not... And it was super healthy, like, I don't know.

1:11:53 Drew So just for the sake of listeners, basically the placenta pulls away from the uterine wall before delivering, shuts off all the nutrients and oxygen and everything.

1:12:01 Caller Yeah, I was born with no blood.

1:12:03 Drew Yeah, it's awful.

1:12:05 James Van Praagh You want a spiritual point of view?

1:12:07 Caller Yeah, I'm just wondering if they can communicate too.

1:12:11 James Van Praagh Sure, of course, because the soul is timeless, the soul is ageless. And I'm gonna tell people this, because a lot of people think you have to live to 70, 80, 90 years, and that's what a person is supposed to live to. A soul comes down here and has experiences, and that soul just might need the experience of going through birth, and that's all that soul needs, and then it's finished and goes back home, okay, which is spirit world or heaven, whatever you want to call that. And for that soul, maybe that's the experience. The only experience it needed was for that to happen. And maybe it was because for you and your wife, maybe that was the experience you needed with that soul. You know, you learned something from that, that soul learned something. I mean, that's how I look at these things because I've seen too much of this, so many years of this. And I know there's no time. I've known that the soul goes through birth, that's the end of it, or a sudden car accident, or at the age of 20, or whatever it is. A soul is ageless and they have to go through these experiences to learn and the people around them, too. Teaching something to the people around them. Yeah. And they do grow up, yes. They do grow up. I mean, you'll recognize them in a soul level, you'll recognize them when you get there. And soul family, you know, you've heard that, soul mates, soul family, we're all connected and you come back with the same family members and friends and similar situations you had in previous incarnations and they're set up that way, so you know, you learn together. So you'll recognize them.

1:13:24 Drew Okay, Jeremy? Yeah. Alright, buddy. Thanks.

1:13:26 James Van Praagh Great.

1:13:27 Drew Okay, this now is Joe, 26. Joe, what's up?

1:13:32 Caller Hi, Drew, long time listener, first time hesitant caller.

1:13:35 Drew Hesitant caller?

1:13:36 James Van Praagh Hesitant caller. Now, why would you be hesitant?

1:13:38 Caller Oh, just because I have my reason.

1:13:42 James Van Praagh Do I have to be psychic to find them out? Now, come on.

1:13:45 Caller I'm sorry?

1:13:46 James Van Praagh I should be psychic to find out why you're hesitant.

1:13:50 Caller Yeah.

1:13:51 James Van Praagh Okay. What's up?

1:13:52 Caller Since about the age of 17, I've had the habit of picking up hookers, Freak-O-Nene, Miss-O-Nene, Coggles. I'm 30 years old now and basically it's just a bad habit. I'm doing it to the point where I'm almost going broke.

1:14:09 Drew Well, as I was talking earlier in the show, addiction is defined by its consequences. If you can't stop something in spite of persistent and progressive adverse effect on your life, that pretty much defines addiction. So it's not how much or how often or how severe, it's what happens as a result. And so what's up here? Are you addicted to other things than just prostitutes? What else?

1:14:35 Caller I have a heavy pot smoker.

1:14:37 Drew Well, there we go. That's for some people terribly addictive. Have you been getting into anything else, pain pills or stimulants or anything else?

1:14:45 Caller Occasionally I get into cocaine, but not.

1:14:48 Drew All right. So about 80% of addicts also are sexually addicted or have some form of sexual addiction. And I suspect that's what's happening here. I don't see, in my opinion, again, this is just a guess that you're going to have real difficulty stopping the sexual addiction or sexual compulsions if you don't also stop the drugs and alcohol. So what you need to do is you're in San Francisco, hate ashbury free clinic. There's a lot of good resources up there. There's a guy named David Smith who is an expert in addiction. Talk to him, get some help, get some 12-step going and maybe deal with this. This now is Georgia. What's up?

1:15:26 Caller Is this Dr. Drew?

1:15:27 Drew Yes, ma'am.

1:15:29 Caller I'm so excited to talk to you.

1:15:31 James Van Praagh I hope not like the other caller. She was really excited.

1:15:35 Drew Well, but George is excited to talk to me, but she's calling for you, James.

1:15:38 James Van Praagh Okay, well there we go. Hey, George.

1:15:41 Caller I'm just flustered and excited. Thanks, guys.

1:15:43 Caller Good girl.

1:15:46 Drew What's up?

1:15:46 Caller So I have been a little bit confused about my sexuality recently, and actually it's been an ongoing thing, not so much recent. And I was wondering if you just got a feeling either way, strongly from talking to me. I don't know if you could help me clarify that.

1:16:03 Drew James.

1:16:04 James Van Praagh It's ladies night here at Loveline, I think, isn't it? It's ladies night.

1:16:08 Drew It's ladies night, but it's not necessarily lesbian night.

1:16:11 James Van Praagh No, I just said ladies night.

1:16:13 Drew I'll just say it.

1:16:14 James Van Praagh I think, Drew, maybe your opinion is different than mine. Maybe it's the same, who knows. I get a sense that when you're born, you're born a certain way. You may have an inclination to be straight or gay or whatever or bisexual. I don't know, I don't like labels. I don't like labels. I mean, what feels good to you? What feels right in your soul? What feels right in your heart?

1:16:34 Caller Yeah, well, I'm maybe going through the same thing where I don't want to label it either way.

1:16:39 James Van Praagh How old are you?

1:16:40 Drew I'm 18. Let me go with my intuition here that I get the sense, this may not be right, but I'm not going to ask you my usual questions yet about sexual abuse and all that good stuff, but I get the sense that you're heterosexual, but that you're in love with a woman right now, and that's confusing you.

1:16:58 James Van Praagh Well, I also get a sense that your mother wasn't around when you were a kid or when you were younger. There's some other issues here.

1:17:04 Caller She's my best friend, my mom is.

1:17:06 James Van Praagh Your mom's your best friend? Well, there were other issues in that way.

1:17:08 Caller Okay.

1:17:11 Caller I do have a very close friend who you were just talking about, soulmates, and I just got shivers because I do have someone who's a soulmate right now, and she's going through kind of an upsetting time right now, so I do feel a lot of love towards her.

1:17:25 James Van Praagh Is your mom young?

1:17:27 Caller She's not.

1:17:28 Caller She had me when she was 37.

1:17:31 Drew 37. Interesting. Where's dad?

1:17:34 James Van Praagh He died.

1:17:35 James Van Praagh What happened?

1:17:36 Caller Well, he died of colon cancer, and he was about the healthiest man anybody could ever.

1:17:41 James Van Praagh By the way, That could be prevented, by the way.

1:17:43 Drew Yes. Colonoscopies.

1:17:46 James Van Praagh I've had one, and it's very important.

1:17:48 Drew I've had two.

1:17:50 James Van Praagh We have colon cancer.

1:17:50 Drew My family, after, certainly after 50, everyone every five years, but I don't know how many fifth-year-olds are missing this show. But Georgia, are you getting involved with women right now? Is that the thing?

1:18:00 Caller No, I'm not, and I'm not actually sexually active. I've never had intercourse before.

1:18:05 Drew What is it you're confused?

1:18:07 James Van Praagh So what bothers you then? And what bothers you about? Is there something that bothers you about your sexuality?

1:18:11 Caller I think I just feel kind of weird because everyone else has gone through all this extensive experience. Most of my friends are sexually active, actually all of them, except for me, so I think I just kind of.

1:18:22 Drew No, you're extra healthy.

1:18:24 James Van Praagh George, let me tell you something. I learned something very early in life. Never measure yourself for other people. Please don't do that to yourself. It's not right. You're an individual, you're your own person. You'll do things very differently than everybody else does. Okay, you are great just the way you are. You don't have to do it just because everybody else does. That's not who you are.

1:18:41 Drew You sound great, George. Please, please. It's not having sex is a good thing. Not a bad thing. Really, really healthy. Yeah, and the fact that you have deeply intimate feelings about a good friend, also a good thing. Very healthy. And most women go through, well, most men and women, can go through a period around age 15 where they can confuse intimate feelings with sexual feelings. And you're just going through that a little bit kind of late. And that's all good. That's all you're sorting stuff out onward.

1:19:07 James Van Praagh You're really healthy. Thank you for calling. I really appreciate this.

1:19:11 Drew Okay.

1:19:12 Yeah, thank you.

1:19:14 James Van Praagh You're welcome, sweetie.

1:19:15 Drew All right. This now is Benita 23. What's up?

1:19:19 Caller Not much. What's up with you?

1:19:21 James Van Praagh Bonita, how are you? I'm good.

1:19:23 Caller I'm a little nervous right now. Never done.

1:19:25 James Van Praagh I know so am I. Oh my gosh. What are we going to do about that? What's up?

1:19:29 Caller Not much. Okay. Here's the deal. Two years ago, I was hospitalized. I was in the hospital for three days. It was right after my period. I had been using tampons. I got a fever that was 102. I was dizzy when I stood up, very nauseous. Some diarrhea, but they told me it was chlamydia. Is there any way, since both of those are associated with the bacteria, that it could have been toxic shock and the test for chlamydia just came back positive with that bacteria on it?

1:19:59 Drew The best way, the most, I'm going to answer this question as best as I can. Chlamydia is not associated with toxic shock. Okay. It's a completely different thing. However, it is possible you had toxic shock and tested positive for chlamydia. Toxic shock is caused by what are called gram-positive organisms, staph, that sort of thing. They elaborate a toxin that then if, particularly the reason it happens in the lower genital tract is you pack the cotton in there with a tampon that closes off the oxygen supply. The organism begins to elaborate the toxin and that breaks into your system and you get rash and fever.

1:20:37 James Van Praagh Where's that prescription?

1:20:40 Drew It's very serious.

1:20:42 James Van Praagh Thank you.

1:20:44 Drew And chlamydia is an organism that causes, obviously, a sexually transmitted disease. It causes urethritis in men. It causes pelvic inflammatory disease in women. And it's one of the leading causes of infertility. But it causes a much, much less acute illness. But it doesn't mean you couldn't have had both. You could have had both.

1:21:00 James Van Praagh How do you get chlamydia, Drew?

1:21:02 Drew Having sex.

1:21:03 James Van Praagh All right. With unsafe sex.

1:21:06 Drew Not wearing a condom.

1:21:07 James Van Praagh All right, Benita?

1:21:08 Caller Okay. The only reason I'm asking is because I'm married. I've been married for three years. I was clean before I got married. I was tested because I got pregnant. So they tested me for everything. Nothing came back. And then all of a sudden, out of the middle, I don't know where I have it. Two years later, my husband and I both get tested again. Negative again. So he didn't have it. They did give me the antibiotics for it. And I'm just trying to make sure that, you know, there wasn't something going on on the side with him.

1:21:37 James Van Praagh I would assume.

1:21:38 Drew I would assume. Just go. Assume not.

1:21:43 James Van Praagh Assume not.

1:21:44 Drew Assume not. You can't.

1:21:45 Caller I trust him, but I just.

1:21:47 Drew Assume not.

1:21:48 Caller You can't.

1:21:49 Drew You can't relay anything on him with this test. It's possible that there was a false negative to begin with. It's possible this was a false positive. It's possible you had some infection up in the tubes. It just sort of didn't get it detected first time around. And it's too much to sort it out based on this one test. Go ahead and ask if he cheated and he'll tell you or he didn't.

1:22:07 James Van Praagh He'll tell you no.

1:22:08 Drew He'll tell you no. Go forward and have a marriage. OK.

1:22:12 Caller All right. Thank you.

1:22:13 Drew All right. That's why people in the early 20s should not get married. Very true. They do these horrible things to each other.

1:22:21 James Van Praagh Excuse me.

1:22:22 Drew Sorry. James Von Praag in here tonight. Ghost Whisperer, the inspiration producer of that show. Jennifer Love Hewitt.

1:22:29 James Van Praagh Whisperer. I mean, yes, Ghost Whisperer.

1:22:31 Drew Just I'm saying, Aisha Tyler, both some of my favorite people. And the phone number here is 1-800-LOVE-191. You can call in and talk to James Von Praagh about other people and other lives and his intuitions. And this is very interesting. And until then, we'll be right back.

1:22:46 Caller Loveline, be right back in a minute.

1:23:01 Drew 1-800-LOVE-191, it is Loveline, James Van Praagh, gracing us with his presence in the studio tonight.

1:23:07 James Van Praagh Gracing, gracing, get that, gracing.

1:23:09 Drew Isn't that a good word?

1:23:10 James Van Praagh That's a great word.

1:23:11 Drew He is Ghost Whispers, he is a creator, producer, and you may know him from beyond, on the other side, and of course, vonpraagh.com, if you want more information about this.

1:23:21 James Van Praagh And guess what, Drew, I got something to tell you. They're just doing A&E biography on me. A&E biography, it's a cursive biography, thank you. They just did Shirley MacLean today, they interviewed Shirley. So it will be on December 23rd in A&E.

1:23:35 Drew Did you work with Shirley?

1:23:36 James Van Praagh I did work with Shirley, a little bit, not much, but a little bit. We talk on the phone often.

1:23:40 Drew Interesting.

1:23:41 James Van Praagh Interesting lady, interesting lady, wonderful lady.

1:23:43 Drew What do you think? What do you think about her?

1:23:46 James Van Praagh Interesting lady, very nice, wonderful lady.

1:23:49 Drew Wonderful lady, it seems to me.

1:23:50 James Van Praagh No, I think she's incredible. I think she opened the door for many people to think, you know, to start questioning things. I mean, it's amazing. You know, I read her book out on the limb when that first came out back in the 80s. And I read it and I wrote her a letter. And I was working at that time at a production company that actually had her address and I sent it to her and never expected anything back. The day before Christmas, I got a card with her handwriting. I said, thank you for your thoughts about the book.

1:24:11 Drew Blessings to you.

1:24:12 James Van Praagh And I said, wait a minute, this lady is, you know, a megastar. If she can take time out to do that, that meant a lot to me.

1:24:18 Drew That's nice.

1:24:18 James Van Praagh So that told me a lot about the person. So yeah, she's a wonderful, wonderful person.

1:24:22 Drew Let's take a call for you. It's Haley. 19, what's up, Haley?

1:24:26 Hi, I had a question for the ghost whisperer.

1:24:30 Drew Here he is.

1:24:31 James Van Praagh Thanks, Drew. Thanks so much.

1:24:33 James Van Praagh Yes.

1:24:35 James Van Praagh Yeah, my mom passed away on July 13th of this, you know, last summer. And it was the month after her birthday. And she just basically, you know, just dropped dead.

1:24:45 James Van Praagh Was it a heart attack? What was it? How did she drop? What happened?

1:24:48 James Van Praagh Well, that's what they said.

1:24:49 James Van Praagh But she came into the emergency room with a temperature of like one hundred and five and higher.

1:24:55 James Van Praagh Yeah.

1:24:55 James Van Praagh The nurse said that doesn't usually happen when you have a heart attack. And I talked to her like the day before and she was fine. Like she was perfectly fine. And she just never came out of it.

1:25:05 Drew Did she have any medical problems?

1:25:06 James Van Praagh I was going to ask you the question, Drew, would there be a, would that be a reaction to like taking, let's say some medications that don't go together?

1:25:13 Drew There could be. There is such a thing as malignant hypothermia. Yeah, that's such a thing. Was she on medication?

1:25:18 James Van Praagh Yeah, she was on antidepressants because she had like, she was like a, you know, an addict, but she was like recovering, so she was on antidepressants, but that was the only thing that we knew of.

1:25:29 James Van Praagh Because my feeling is that, my feeling is that something with medications was not right with this lady. I mean, that's my feeling.

1:25:34 Drew I don't know, that's why I'm asking that. Could she have been abusing drugs again?

1:25:38 James Van Praagh I honestly don't know because she lived in Illinois and I'm in California, so I wasn't...

1:25:43 Drew Does she shoot drugs? Does she ever?

1:25:45 James Van Praagh No, she said she never did that, so...

1:25:48 Drew Okay. Well, there is something called a serotonin syndrome, where drugs like Prozac are put in combination and people can get a very high fever and die. There is such a thing. I know, we don't... You know, this is James' intuition on this. We don't know if she was on medicine or what, but that's something... And there's also another one called malignant hyperthermia, which is... Get that reaction from like ecstasy and things like that, just stimulants. So, it's all...

1:26:13 James Van Praagh You know, Hayley, I'd like to say one thing to you, and this is what I really want to give you this, because I feel it's really strong to say to you, make your mother proud, like live a life that she never had a chance to, and show her it's possible, because a lot of people think that, you know, people to pass over the spirits, they can teach us, but we also can teach them down here, by the way we live our lives.

1:26:33 James Van Praagh Yeah, she told me that all the time.

1:26:35 James Van Praagh Okay, because I want you to make your mom proud, and she wants you to do that, like make her proud. I keep thinking that, make me proud, make me proud.

1:26:41 Drew So did she say things like that to you?

1:26:44 Caller Oh, all the time, because, you know, she never did anything with her life, and I was following her footsteps, and that's what she wants from me, and I know it.

1:26:52 James Van Praagh Exactly right, exactly, you got it, you got it. Very, very strongly, she'll come to more in your dreams, she'll come more. She also surrounded herself with a lot of people.

1:26:58 Drew Now I just got chills. Did she actually say make me proud with those her words?

1:27:02 James Van Praagh She said it all the time.

1:27:04 James Van Praagh That's all she wanted from me.

1:27:06 James Van Praagh And she surrounded herself with them guys who were not really good. She surrounded herself with people that were not good in her life. You know that, right? And she was also going through some stuff about self-love and loving herself, not loving herself, and she has some issues of her own. But make her proud again, over and over again, make her proud. And I don't know if she used to go bowling or when you were little kids, she went bowling with you or there was a memory about that. Remember about the bowling? So when you think of her, remember that memory about the bowling time, because she wants you to think of that and have happy thoughts about her. Like when that happened, there was a happy situation. And she wants you to think of her like that.

1:27:40 Caller Okay.

1:27:41 James Van Praagh Is she with me?

1:27:43 James Van Praagh She's with you all the time. She watches you. She watches you all the time. And she said you've been concerned about your eyes lately, like if I have to wear glasses or not or this sort of thing. And do you have her sunglasses or something? Did you want something of hers that you couldn't get after she died?

1:28:00 James Van Praagh A picture. She carried a picture in her wallet.

1:28:03 James Van Praagh You still don't have it, do you?

1:28:05 James Van Praagh No. When I went to Illinois, we couldn't find it anywhere.

1:28:08 James Van Praagh Because she said you're going to get it soon. So I don't know how it's going to get to you. But you will get it. She's on her way. She's going to get it. And there's a birthday in the summertime she's talking about.

1:28:18 James Van Praagh Oh, okay.

1:28:20 James Van Praagh And she's with you all the time, Haley. Just know that you'll have more dreams of her too. But remember what I told you that I'm getting is make her proud, okay? And lots of love. Lots of love from her.

1:28:31 Caller Alright, good.

1:28:32 Drew Okay. Alright, Haley. Now, I don't want to take another call after that because that one is giving me complete chills. That's wild.

1:28:39 James Van Praagh I am a professional, Drew.

1:28:40 Drew I know you are. I know this is...

1:28:41 James Van Praagh As are you in your field, sir.

1:28:43 Drew But, Drew, but...

1:28:44 James Van Praagh Do I question you, Drew?

1:28:45 Drew No, no. I'm not questioning you. Not only do I love you, James, I love your positivity. I love your positivity. I love your skepticism. I love your humor. No, that's right. But I also like that you always stay very positive with this stuff and every time...

1:28:59 James Van Praagh Oh, you have to. That's what life is about.

1:29:01 Drew You have to. You have to.

1:29:02 James Van Praagh I think that's... We're loving beings, and we always mess ourselves up with negativity. You know...

1:29:06 Drew Who has the great messages?

1:29:07 James Van Praagh And simply put, life is about choices we make. And it's really very big listening. Life is about choices. And there's only two ways you can look at a choice, through love or fear. That's it. It's just based on love or fear. And if you choose love, you'll be very happy. If you choose fear, you won't be happy.

1:29:24 Drew It's true. It's hard not to be fearful when you're making tough choices.

1:29:28 James Van Praagh But that's the lesson. You gotta believe in your faith. You have to have faith in yourself. And you have to know yourself strong enough. Have the relationship with yourself. And know yourself enough. And have faith and believe in yourself enough to make the choices positive.

1:29:39 Drew Is there a theology attached to all this too for you? You know what I mean?

1:29:43 James Van Praagh You know, people ask, do you have a religion? My religion is love. And that's really what it is. Love is love. And it sounds simplistic, but that's really what it is. It's positive thinking, if you want to call it that, but it's also love. It's doing this for 22 years and seeing spirits have passed over and they come back and say, wow, you know, I wish I did this when I was alive. Why did I waste my time down there? Oh, please forgive me. Please forgive me. I mean, I've done this a thousand, thousand times. So after doing this for 22, 23 years, you listen and you have a certain language then from these people's commonality that comes through with these messages. And most of it is about forgiveness and loving yourself and loving one another and treating people with respect.

1:30:18 Drew And you just learn to just to trust your instincts on this?

1:30:21 James Van Praagh Yeah, you have to trust your instincts. Everybody trust your instincts. Even if, you know, simple little ways you can trust your instincts. Like let's say you get a bill in the mail. Try to intuit how much it is before you open up the envelope. You know, a bank of elevators, which one's going to come down first and open up.

1:30:35 Drew So practice all that natural knowing stuff.

1:30:37 James Van Praagh You got it. Practice, practice, practice. It's like a muscle. The more you practice and work it out, the stronger cats it develops.

1:30:42 Drew James Van Praagh, Ghost Whisperer. It's Loveline and we will be right back. Well, that about does it for Loveline. James Van Praagh, thank you so much for joining us. I really appreciate it.

1:31:02 James Van Praagh Drew, thank you very much.

1:31:03 Drew It was great.

1:31:04 James Van Praagh It was really great. I've learned so many things. Thank you.

1:31:07 Drew I know my wife's going to want to call you now too.

1:31:09 James Van Praagh Ready for the prescription. You're ready.

1:31:12 Drew Well, here's what you need. It's just a little time and time and distance away from this show. And you'll recover in a few days.

1:31:18 James Van Praagh Get my taste buds back. Okay.

1:31:20 Drew Oh, dude. Fair enough. Well, it's James Van Praagh. He again is the executive producer of Ghost Whisperer, Jennifer Love Hewitt. You know, all know her and you know the show now. It's Friday, 8 p.m. on CBS. You can also check his publications out and the chat communities at Van Praagh, vanpraagh.com. And I want to thank you again.

1:31:40 James Van Praagh Thanks, Drew. It's been great. Look forward to next time.

1:31:42 Drew Fabulous. And until that next time, I want to say to all of you, good night and stay well.

1:31:48 Caller This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or the station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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