Episode 1000695439619

0:57 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

1:01 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content.

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1:14 Voiceover This is Loveline.

1:18 Adam With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Hey buddy, it's Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician and Addiction Medicine Specialist. Tonight, from The Apprentice, Audrey is here.

1:33 Hi.

1:36 Adam One of, I'm guessing, almost everyone's favorite contestants, if that's what they are, in The Apprentice, which I watch religiously. Drew watches semi-religiously.

1:47 Drew About as religiously as television is for me.

1:49 Adam Yeah. Yeah, that's a show Drew likes. And he's not some Rob Burnett kiss-ass either. Because he doesn't like Survivor.

1:57 Drew No.

1:58 Adam And I don't know if he saw-

1:59 Drew I appreciate it. I don't like it.

2:01 Adam Okay. Thanks, Drew.

2:02 Drew No, but I mean, I appreciate the value, the way he does stuff. I mean, I really do.

2:05 Adam Yeah, you just don't like it.

2:06 Drew I just- But I like The Apprentice.

2:07 Adam All right. Next time your wife puts a dress on, tell her, explain that to her, how you appreciate the dress. You just don't like it.

2:13 Drew See how that works. I would say something like that.

2:14 Adam Yeah, you would.

2:15 Drew I appreciate what into that, but I'm not into it.

2:17 Adam Right, right. Just see how that goes. See how that goes. Audrey is a beautiful firecracker, a zesty chili pepper.

2:28 Audrey Evans That sounds good.

2:29 Adam Yeah, getting hungry. Audrey was basically up in everyone's grill. Now, you tell me obviously how much of that is editing or how they create a story via editing. I mean, obviously-

2:43 Drew Well, let's recap the story. I missed this one. Because you were sort of not under the radar for a while.

2:48 Audrey Evans Well, I just don't think that I was the kind of person at the beginning that I just wanted people to look at me, me, me, me. I was more the one that just sat back and was watching everybody and saying, okay, we're going to weed out the stupid ones real fast. Here's this person, this person, this person. Oh, those are going to be the ones first fired and da, da, da, da, da, da.

3:06 Drew You were right.

3:07 Audrey Evans Oh, I was-

3:08 Drew For the most part.

3:09 Audrey Evans Yeah, it was like four and five.

3:11 Drew Yeah.

3:11 Adam Audrey was laying low, yeah, for the first few episodes. But then this episode that is last week took a step forward, was getting into it with everybody. I think she got knocked around a little at the boardroom from the week before, and was feeling a little bit sniped at, maybe like there was a little dissension in the group.

3:36 Drew And a week doesn't even pass, right? It's like a day passes and you go right back to work.

3:40 Audrey Evans The very next, well, it's just that night, the next morning.

3:43 Drew Yeah, so they wake up the next day after having that big experience.

3:45 Adam So Audrey got PO'd and announced to the room that she was going to be the leader of the next competition, which was I think the Putt-Putt Golf Competition. And there's a little like she's not going to lead, and she took the step forward. And it was a pretty close competition. I mean, there are maybe 200 bucks between the two of you.

4:07 Audrey Evans But a dollar is a winner, you know? That's it.

4:10 Adam No, it's all.

4:11 Drew It is a winner.

4:11 Audrey Evans For 200 bucks, that's a big gap.

4:13 Adam That's all it takes. Yeah, well, they had like a scary clown theme. One of the guys was chewing Copenhagen in the clown outfit.

4:22 Drew That scared a couple of kids away.

4:24 Adam Clowns are scary enough, but one of the- The dipping clown. Yeah, one is dipping. It's disgusting. And by the way, the guys who carry around the spit cup, it's like, my thing is like, could you please just urinate on my leg? Yeah, but you please, it would be so much better.

4:38 Drew What else are they going to do? You know what they do? They spit in a Coke can.

4:42 Adam I don't-

4:42 Audrey Evans No, no, no. He spit in water bottles and would leave them in the van.

4:46 And every time you got in the car, it was just like one water bottle after another. And you're just like, oh, oh, I got to hold back my throw up.

4:53 Adam That's the whole thing. It's one thing when guys used to spit in a Styrofoam cup or something. Now they do it in the little Evian thing. And half of it ain't making it in. Oh, yeah. It's cascading down the side. It's like it's so repugnant.

5:07 That was what I said on that.

5:09 Adam It's repugnant. I really like, you know, people make a big thing about smokers and secondhand smoke. You're intruding on my whatever. How about just a gross out factor?

5:19 Drew Yeah.

5:19 Adam You know what I mean?

5:20 Drew I mean, I'll just pick it up and drink it thinking it's coke.

5:23 Adam Oh, it's got like a heptasy and botulism and the flesh eating bacteria and mad cow disease. You get it all. The bird flu. You get it all. But here's the thing. This is bringing us to a bigger point. And then we'll get back to The Apprentice. I've been complaining about this on a fear factor. I switched on to it last night. They were running through some some some rancid quagmire. And then they got to a bucket of decomposing horse heads. And the guy was sort of eating this decomposing flesh and face. And I had to like hold my hand up and run for the remote to try to avert my gaze because I was getting like a gag thing was coming up. And I thought to myself, we make such a big deal in this society about like somebody cigar smoke blowing over, you know, even if someone's smoking outside at a restaurant, it'll be like, sir, your smoke is coming up. How about just seeing some guy with the nipple piercings and a shirt off?

6:19 Drew That's enough for me, right there. No, that's it.

6:21 Adam I mean, seriously, you're a right thinking, sane person. Would you rather smell a guy smoking a pipe at the next table?

6:27 Drew It's visual pollution.

6:29 Adam Right, or see Joe Rogan yelling at a guy who's got his face in a bucket full of maggots and otter semen, you know?

6:36 Drew Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:37 Adam Well, what is that? I know. And how come, you know, you say tits, and oh, you got trouble with the FCC. Yeah. But go ahead and put your face in the decomposing horse head bucket.

6:49 Audrey Evans And then suck the bile out of that.

6:51 Adam You spit that bile in your partner's mouth, and he can bring that up, and your friend can do a line of it with a crazy straw. This is okay? Here's what it is. It's about sensibilities. You know, I mean, either you're offended or you're not. Tits doesn't offend most people. Oh, quiet down. I don't care. See, opening a flesh and stuffing your head into rotting flesh, that does affect most people's sensibility.

7:18 Drew So anyway, you lost that. You lost that.

7:19 Adam Where was that? Yeah, I was talking about Audrey.

7:22 Drew In the boardroom, right?

7:23 Adam Yeah.

7:24 Drew And you broke down, you said.

7:25 Adam Oh, yeah.

7:26 Audrey Evans Oh, yeah.

7:27 Drew Why?

7:27 Adam Yeah.

7:28 Audrey Evans Well, because it's just this emotional buildup and then all of a sudden you're just...

7:32 Drew You're fired.

7:33 Audrey Evans It's overwhelming and then it's over.

7:36 Adam The whole thing was about how hot Audrey is, really, the whole episode. It really was. It really was. I got to be honest, which was I always thought Audrey was really hot, but she was kind of flying under the radar. No one was saying anything about it. And finally, episode whatever, everyone just came out and started talking about how hot she was. Audrey was talking about how hot she was and saying something that guys never say, which is it's a liability. You didn't like being so good looking when you were in like junior high and high school, right?

8:03 Audrey Evans Well, it wasn't that way. It was more...

8:05 Adam Said she wanted to scar her face.

8:07 Audrey Evans Well, it's not... It's something like that.

8:09 Adam That's what you said.

8:10 Drew Again, artistic license. Hyperbole.

8:13 Adam Came out of her mouth.

8:13 Drew Yeah, I know.

8:15 Audrey Evans I just think that at some point these guys were just... It was just overwhelming.

8:20 Adam They weren't taking you seriously?

8:21 Audrey Evans Well, it wasn't just that, but I have a very good job. I make good money. You know, I'm not really used to being treated this way and undermined it and demeaning... You know, these guys were really belittling towards me. And it just got to the point that says, look, it's not just the pretty face here. It's... I got a brain too. Did you forget about that? And I was pretty smart and I, you know, stick up for what I believe in. And, you know, I didn't really let my team fail. I said the things I needed to say. People heard the things I had to say. But them hearing it and doing something about it was completely out of my control.

8:55 Adam Well, Audrey's also part of the Street Smarts squad as opposed to the Book Smarts guy. I don't think the Book Smarts group would have got into the physical stuff because they've been coached. I mean, they're no better. They're more PC. I'm not sure they go to the shower and squeeze one off.

9:09 Drew Same conversation.

9:11 Adam No, not just alone. With God. But they don't say anything when they're sitting on the sofa. The Street Smarts guys are like, listen, sweetie pea, I'll do the thinking. Look, you little pretty girl over there. Go freshen up my drink. That's how those guys are.

9:24 Drew How about that African American woman who was clearly had a psychiatric problem?

9:28 Adam Oh, and had to leave?

9:29 Drew And they pushed her out.

9:30 Audrey Evans How about Verna? Well, you guys didn't see that, you know, the team on the other hand, it was very, you know, you see Kendra, Stephanie, Erin, and they were very, you know, younger, good-looking young girls that were on the show or young women that were on the show. And she's a mom. She just had a kid. And she just can't really relate with the other people on her team. There was nobody there that she could really...

9:52 Drew She went into a few...

9:53 Adam She went wandering the streets.

9:54 Audrey Evans Well, that's what you guys didn't see, though, is that she started feeling very alienated That's paranoia.

9:59 Drew That's paranoia. And she got acutely paranoid and then she went into a fugue state. That is a psychiatric syndrome that she manifested.

10:07 Yeah.

10:08 Drew Absolutely.

10:09 You got all that out of that.

10:11 Oh, yeah.

10:12 Drew That's how that happens. That's what that is. That's just what that is. That's not... Maybe it is or isn't. That's what it is. And so the question is, why didn't they take care of her? Did they get her proper care?

10:22 Audrey Evans Yeah, I don't think she had any mental issues at all. I think she was a sweetheart and she did a great job.

10:27 Drew That has nothing to do with whether or not she had a psychiatric issue. She had a psychiatric syndrome.

10:32 Audrey Evans I think that you understand that the pressure is seriously there. And our task, this task we're talking about was the hotel task. The second task that we have. Our project manager threw 14 toilets away. You could imagine how much time that just set us back in construction. And then let alone he's not even telling the contractors to give us the cheapest deal. He's basically saying, do what you think needs to be done to these rooms.

10:57 And we've got 20,000.

10:59 Adam Come on, buddy.

10:59 Audrey Evans So, you know.

11:00 Drew That makes me want to run.

11:01 Adam Drew, hold on. You were on a job and so I threw away some perfectly good.

11:05 Drew Come on. I'd start wandering around confused.

11:06 Adam You'd still be wandering aimlessly.

11:07 Drew I'd still be wandering. Yes.

11:09 Adam And as opposed to me, who would be rambling? He drew wanders and I ramble.

11:13 Drew You would be rambling.

11:14 Audrey Evans Yes. You would be Kristen.

11:15 Adam That's eternal, right, Audrey?

11:17 Drew I just want to get people proper care when they manifest problems, when they're really something serious.

11:21 Audrey Evans I would hope that they would have given Brian proper care. He threw away 14 good toilets.

11:25 Drew That's bad judgment. That's not a second.

11:27 Adam Come on, buddy.

11:28 Audrey Evans It's a psychiatric problem when you throw away 14 good toilets and your ass never know the difference.

11:33 Drew I'm just saying, I work in psychiatric hospital. Those were psychiatric.

11:35 Adam Please, please, Drew.

11:36 Drew They were.

11:37 Adam Let's stop pressuring the guests.

11:38 Drew I'm just telling you. Then it disturbs me when people, they put them in these situations and then they like, with the re-feeding thing with the survivor victims, survivor people, somebody's going to die.

11:47 Adam Somebody's going to die.

11:49 Drew No, that's what's going to happen.

11:50 Adam Audrey's having a good time. Look, here's.

11:53 Drew No, they do, well Audrey doesn't understand what I'm talking about.

11:56 Adam All right, here's what I'm saying.

11:57 Drew The re-feeding, the phosphorus problem, people get re-feeding, they get kidney failure, they get leg edema, they're manifest, all this stuff. They swell up for the first two weeks after they eat and people often go into cardiac arrest.

12:06 Audrey Evans I lost six pounds the second day.

12:09 Adam Yeah, it wasn't even on Survivor.

12:11 Audrey Evans Yeah, that much pressure, you're not sleeping, you're barely really eating, if not...

12:16 Adam Yeah, but you're on the run.

12:17 Audrey Evans You just don't have time. Your body's stressed out. You just gotta go.

12:19 Adam Let me say it, Drew, relax over here for a second. Here's the problem. There's all this potential stuff, but nothing ever seems to happen. Eventually it will.

12:27 Drew Some will, some might not.

12:29 Adam But let me ask you this, Drew. If you took this group times 10 seasons of Survivor times X amount of seasons of Apprentice, and you just took this group of 30-something, in average age 36 or whatever, 41, whatever, you took, you know, ends up being 800 people. Eventually something would have happened to one of them anyway. You're looking at that one.

12:50 Drew No, it's actually, it's not that.

12:52 Adam Yeah, yeah. Some would have got hit by a car.

12:55 Drew Well, okay.

12:55 Adam That's all I'm saying.

12:56 Drew Maybe that.

12:56 Adam A drunk driving, whatever. All right. The point is, is that we can't live in the past. Everyone lands on their feet. Audrey wasn't excited about being beautiful in high school, but now she thanks her lucky stars for what she looks like. And you're in real estate. It's always good. Yeah. Guys, guys want to buy a condo from you, right?

13:16 Caller Yeah.

13:17 Audrey Evans I sell more than condos.

13:19 Adam Yeah. Yeah, I know. But I would buy a condo even if I wasn't looking. You'd be like, I'd be walking down the street like I sell real estate. Can I buy? Geez, I got, I got just bought a house. How about a condo? Does he got a condo? It's like when I'm leaving the store and that black kid wants to sell me a candle. I don't really want the candle, but I just take it, you know? Sure. He's going to put him, go to a better junior high. That's all. All right. You know what a power move is? I do. I buy the candle, don't even take it. I just give the kid the five bucks and keep walking. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Makes me feel powerful. All right. You're ready? Yeah. Sicily?

13:55 Yeah.

13:56 Adam You're 19?

13:57 Caller Yep.

13:58 Adam What's up?

13:59 Caller Well, I have an incredibly high tolerance, and my question is, what is the effect if I drink a lot, say, drink until I get drunk, is the effect the same on my body as somebody with a lower tolerance that drinks until they get drunk or?

14:14 Drew Yes, yes, yes, and no. One of the things that research has shown is that the people that can drink somebody at the table, the people that are intolerant, or rather tolerant to the intoxicating effects of alcohol have the gene for alcoholism. That's a marker for alcoholism. And so while you may not manifest intoxication the same way, you have the potential for this disease. You have the genetic marker for it.

14:36 Caller Oh, I mean, I definitely know that both of my sides of the family have alcoholism.

14:40 Drew Yeah, well, that's just what this is.

14:42 Adam Now, so what about the physical? I'm not exactly sure what her question is.

14:45 Drew She's saying, she's saying, because she doesn't get intoxicated...

14:48 Adam She's not getting buzzed, then what's the ampere doing to her?

14:50 Drew Therefore, is it hurting my liver the same way it would if I were getting buzzed?

14:53 Adam Or your brain.

14:53 Drew Or your brain. And the brain issue, it's actually probably a little worse for your brain because the coming off the alcohol is one of the areas we think that people get some of the brain damage.

15:02 Adam Oh, really? So I gotta keep going?

15:03 Drew You gotta keep going, exactly.

15:05 Adam That's why I say Bloody Mary every weekday. I don't stop.

15:08 Drew And your medicine at night.

15:09 Adam You're all set. At night, my medicine. In the afternoon, you know, it's just a smart cocktail with the boys down the cuffs.

15:14 Drew Smart drink.

15:17 Adam But here's the thing, if you drink, so it's not the process of being altered, like my mom drinks a thimble of champagne. She's bouncing off the sea.

15:27 Drew And those people tend to be protected against some of the effects of alcohol. Well, she takes it. Should they stop?

15:31 Adam Well, she drinks two thimbles and she vomits and passes out.

15:34 Drew So it is not the intoxicating effects. All that intoxicating stuff is a function of the GABA system, the GABA-A system, for the most part.

15:40 Adam Right, so that's not good. It's just you're physically not taking in enough, even if you're that light a weight, that you'll pass out, just not doing it.

15:48 Drew Though there are other things that can predispose to liver disease and these sorts of things.

15:51 Adam But like other things you bring into your body, I mean there's some people that can breathe carbon monoxide and feel fine, others who pass out, but it's still doing the same thing to your body.

16:00 Drew Right.

16:01 Adam Like anything you take in.

16:03 Drew It's a little more complicated than that, but yes. I mean there's different ways that the body metabolizes things and distributes things, but in this case, particularly being a female, the effects are gonna be profound, Sicily.

16:14 Adam Audrey, I bet you get crazy when you get drunk. Yeah.

16:19 Caller Oh, man.

16:22 Adam It'd be good for the first like three hours and then you'd wish you were sober. That's my take. You have to get out of there. Yeah. First, like here's what I'm thinking with Audrey.

16:30 Drew We start boozing about 9 p.m. This is from Utah, strangely enough.

16:33 Adam Oh, really? We'll all get together for a drink. Start boozing about 9. You're looking pretty good about 10.45 or 11. It's a party about 12, but as you start getting about 1 o'clock, now it's time to pack it in.

16:44 Drew What's when the belligerent sets in?

16:45 Adam Yeah. She's getting angry now. She's coming after you. It's tough. Then it gets fun again about 4 a.m. Then you're done. Well, she's passed out. Just doing her thing.

16:54 Drew All right.

16:54 Adam Where are we? Sicily.

16:56 Drew She cool?

16:57 Adam Line four. Stacey?

17:00 Yes. Hi.

17:01 Adam What's up?

17:02 Hi. Am I on there?

17:07 Adam Yes.

17:07 Yes. Oh, great. Okay. Well, my boyfriend has this awful rash on his penis, and he doesn't really want to have to go to the doctor, but I know it's probably something that he needs to do. So I wanted to know if I described something about it, that maybe you could help me try to figure out what it is.

17:33 Drew 90% probability the answer is no. Really? We would have everybody able to interpret a rash description.

17:38 Adam You don't know what it is, but you can certainly check.

17:41 Drew Adam, it's never happened.

17:42 Caller You can check its history.

17:44 Drew Describe the rash.

17:45 Describe the rash in detail. How does it feel?

17:47 Adam Well, it looks like a buffalo nipple.

17:51 Drew Is it a cauliflower?

17:52 Adam No, you want to know what he was doing, though. Was he, how many partners does he have, how long he's been with you, that kind of thing. Would that help?

18:00 Pretty much. And also, the fact that I don't, you know, I don't want to go near it.

18:06 Drew Because we don't know what he's been doing besides her. So what does it look like? Well, go ahead, give her a chance. There you go.

18:11 In little patches or something, and it's raised above the skin, and it goes all the way down, I don't know, close to his, I can't say the word on the air, I guess.

18:25 Adam Well, what direction are we heading? Toward Mecca or Saka?

18:29 Toward Saka, I guess.

18:31 Adam Toward Saka.

18:32 Drew These are...

18:33 Adam I pray every morning at sunlight, I take my ceremonial towel, I put it down, I face it towards Saka.

18:39 Drew It's Saka towards Mecca.

18:41 Adam Yeah, bells ring.

18:43 Drew Stacey, is it like a patch?

18:45 It's in patches in different areas.

18:48 Drew On the penis?

18:49 Yes.

18:50 Drew On the shaft of the penis?

18:51 Yes.

18:52 Drew And is it colored?

18:53 Yes, it's red.

18:55 Drew Is it ulcerated?

18:56 It's raised above the skin, yeah.

18:58 Adam But is it blistery?

19:00 Well, not that I could tell.

19:03 Drew Does it look like a wart, like cauliflower?

19:07 Well, yeah, possibly.

19:09 Adam Hold on, do warts look like a rash, do they?

19:12 Drew No, but when I asked her if it looked like a cauliflower, she was like, yeah, kind of.

19:16 Adam She said it's red, it's patchy. I know, Drew, listen, Stacey, let me explain something about Drew. Once he's decided this isn't going to work, forget it. It's a stupid waste of time because you want me to go through the possibilities.

19:28 Drew No, you're the possibilities. You're the possibilities.

19:31 Adam You're a doctor on the radio. What do you want to do?

19:33 Drew That's my point. There's certain things I can do. Go ahead, tell her. She called in.

19:37 Adam Why did you pick the call?

19:39 You want to know? I'm glad you all picked the call. How old are you all? Can I ask that?

19:46 Adam Now I'm getting angry. What do you want?

19:50 I want to know why you don't let people over 25 and talk to you on the phone right now.

19:56 Drew See, she made it up.

19:57 Adam She made it up. There you go. You picked the call.

20:03 Drew No, there were no other calls.

20:05 Adam There were no other calls?

20:06 Drew Yes.

20:06 Adam Adam, when are you doing a new episode of The Dying Together? Well, that's a call. Listen, Drew, don't go pout somewhere, would you?

20:15 Drew Adam, we have somebody working on the lines tonight that I get little notes up here when I'm not to take the calls. These were no good. Do you want to take that one? That's the only one we got now. So go ahead.

20:23 Adam Well, that one's been on there for 20 minutes.

20:24 Drew That's the one we got. Take it. That's what we got.

20:26 Adam We said we had no calls.

20:28 Drew Those were our choices. You're a question about Drawn Together and a question about a rash.

20:33 Adam All right. All right. But look, I know how you feel about answering rash questions over the phone. On the other hand, if someone says it's red and it's patchy, that's not warts.

20:43 Drew The list then now goes to about 30 things at that point.

20:46 Adam Well, yes. But you, using your expertise and doing a little probing about this guy's history, could probably whittle that number down just a little bit.

20:54 Drew Okay. We're talking about psoriasis now, eczema, and allergic dermatitis, and fungus as a rash.

21:01 Adam But you could still whittle those down. He would have that. If he had psoriasis, he would have other breakouts, other places, other instances wouldn't be his first one. No. You know I'm right. I'm always right, Drew. That's the thing you better start getting used to. Abby?

21:16 Hi, Adam.

21:17 Adam What's happening?

21:18 Caller Not too much.

21:19 I love you, by the way. Thanks.

21:23 Caller I just want to know when John DeGeneres is coming back from the NAR.

21:27 Adam I have no idea.

21:28 You don't?

21:29 Adam No. I don't keep track of these things, but go on the website. Go on the Comedy Central website. I bet they'll tell you.

21:36 Okay. Can I ask one really, really quick question also?

21:39 Adam All right.

21:40 My boyfriend and I are both bipolar. Would that cause any problems in the relationship at all, do you think? Because we've been together for nine months now and everything has been fine.

21:51 Drew You can make it pretty volatile. You can make it volatile. You both taking your medication?

21:55 I haven't been on my meds for a year, but I've been stable.

21:59 Drew But your perception of stable and actual stability may be different. What's happening in the relationship?

22:06 Caller Just normal stuff.

22:07 We don't fight really, but when we both get manicky, I'm afraid we'll get into trouble.

22:12 Drew Have you been manicky?

22:12 Caller Because we're both out on meds.

22:14 Drew Yeah. Yes, you will get into trouble. Absolutely. And you may not. And one of the problems with bipolar very often is people lose insight. So you don't know when you're getting manicky. You don't realize it. And so you could easily end up in big trouble.

22:31 But he's 10 and a half years older than me, so basically we have the maturity level.

22:37 Audrey Evans But you don't have control over what it is.

22:39 Drew There's nothing to do with this.

22:41 Adam Someone's 10 years older. You got to work the half in. In 19. Like, I understand when you're seven, you do that. How old are you, Billy? Six and a half.

22:52 Drew It stops at about six and a half.

22:54 Adam About six and a half is when we go to whole, full numbers, especially when you're talking about a guy who's 29. And here's the other thing. Why jack it up? Like, why not just go, look, I'm 19. He's 29. People are already kind of, you know what I mean? Why add the other six months on to it? Bipolar?

23:12 Drew Ticker medicine.

23:13 Adam Yeah. All right. Well, he's trying to say he's mature. He's 30, right? Or 29 and a half.

23:20 Caller 29.

23:21 Adam What's that?

23:22 Caller He just turned 29.

23:24 Adam I'm gonna try to do some math here. You're 19. He just turned 29 and he's 10 and a half years older than you?

23:33 Caller I obviously have the intelligence of a six year old then, huh Adam?

23:37 Adam Well, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but how is it mathematically possible for him to just turn 29, you'd already be 19 and him to be 10 and a half years older than you?

23:47 Audrey Evans How long has he been off of his meds?

23:50 Caller He's never taken meds.

23:52 Audrey Evans Has he ever gotten help?

23:54 Caller Yeah, he went to therapy for a little while. I was in a residential for eight months before I turned 18.

24:00 Drew Come on.

24:00 Audrey Evans Whoa, what's up?

24:01 Drew That's a year of treatment.

24:03 Audrey Evans I thought you were supposed to get a dog or a plant and then a dog and then...

24:06 Drew Yeah, before you have a ham-wear boyfriend. So your boyfriend is on some sort of marijuana maintenance? No, that's me. You're on the pot maintenance. I knew somebody was doing drugs.

24:15 Adam Yeah.

24:15 Drew Yeah, that doesn't work.

24:17 Adam All right.

24:17 Drew Good luck.

24:18 Adam I'm so curious about the 19 and him just turning 29.

24:21 Drew She's 18.

24:22 Adam Oh, you're 18. Abby?

24:25 Caller I'll be 19 in April.

24:27 Drew See?

24:28 Adam Okay. Still doesn't really work out with him.

24:30 Drew The man doesn't work. Still doesn't work.

24:32 Adam He just turned. You'll be 19 next month. And he's telling me a few years older than you.

24:36 Drew Are you 17?

24:37 Caller No, I'm not.

24:38 Adam All right. Well, listen, how about you take care of yourself? Take them meds.

24:42 Caller I just don't like them because I don't get mannachy.

24:45 Drew Oh, Abby, so you're a mannachy. This is trauma stuff.

24:48 Adam Oh, what happened to you? What?

24:50 Caller What do you mean what happened to me?

24:52 Adam Were you abused?

24:53 Caller What does that matter?

24:55 Drew You will.

24:55 Adam All right. Like what, Drew? See my fist?

24:57 Drew Yes. We just hung up on the wrong person. I don't know about somebody else. And Abby Strangely is still with us.

25:02 Adam Now I hung up on two innocent people. You want to try for three before I hang up on you? Now, Abby, get yourself some help, please. I know you're angry. I know you're angry. You should be for what happened to you and what your parents did to you. But here's here's the deal. Let me give everyone just a quick speech, quick, quick pep talk. Audrey, you only have to listen with one ear.

25:21 Audrey Evans There we go, moment.

25:23 Adam I saw last week's episode a little bit, a little.

25:26 Audrey Evans I love it. I love the meltdown.

25:27 Adam People had difficult childhoods and that's unfortunate. Many of us have some ranging from just a little neglect to all out abuse.

25:38 Drew In your case, just missed a couple of football games.

25:40 Adam Missed a couple of football games. I'm still bitter. The point is, then you get out into society and you just sort of recreate that relationship. You're angry. Women do it especially. Unfortunately, men do it in their own way, but young women do it with relationships. They do it with father figures and they do it with authority figures. Oftentimes, as you saw, Abby just do it to us, called us for help. We never met her before. She was kind of curt and standoffish and weird and a little short and angry, essentially. Hostile. Then what happens is, you go out into society and the abuse continues. Because now you have a radio show host yelling at you, unfortunately hanging up on other people along the way. You have bosses firing you. You have customers yelling at you. You have, you are bringing this anger out in the world. You went from getting yelled at or physically or sexually abused by daddy, and now it's the rest of the world's turn. Why do that to yourself? Haven't you suffered long enough? How about you get a little help, straighten a few things out, you work a few things out, and you go out there and you start thriving instead of just surviving and recreating this horrible abuse pattern over and over again? Yes. All right. You can open the second ear now, Audrey. Audrey is here from The Apprentice, one of my favorite shows. Yeah. Drew's favorite show as well, Thursday Nights, NBC, nine o'clock. Audrey is the beautiful princess that was unfortunately on Ceremonies. Tossed off just last week. And I hated to see you go. I really did.

27:09 Caller Really?

27:09 Adam You know what I'm going to do?

27:10 Caller What?

27:10 Adam I'll tell you what, I'm going to get.

27:11 Drew The Red Trump?

27:12 Adam And I'm going to get, well, I could do that.

27:13 Drew The Red Trump letter?

27:15 Adam I'll make a phone call. I'll make a phone call. No, I'm going to take your headshot if I can. And I'm just going to tape it to the corner of my big screen TV so that you will be in every episode. I will be the episode. And not only will you be in every episode, later on tonight, you'll be in episodes of Manix, This Old House, Robot Wars.

27:33 Drew You'll be in every episode. You might include her in that.

27:35 Adam Oh, why do I slip over to the Spice Channel? That's going to be awesome. You'll just be there. I have to turn you over. You don't want to see what I'm doing.

27:42 Drew Is she, one of her co-contestants, dated somebody you knew, apparently.

27:46 Adam Oh, really?

27:47 Drew Yeah, we'll find out about that after the break.

27:49 Adam All right. We'll be back after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Chris Pontius and Steve O are in here tomorrow night. Ugh, Christ.

28:20 Drew I ran into Ricky Schroeder. And when I was on CNN, he was coming.

28:23 Caller Adrian, why is it that when you rub your balls while you're jerking off, that it feels so much better?

28:28 Adam Yeah.

28:28 Drew Yeah, that's Steve-O.

28:30 Adam Just a sample of the witty banter that's going to take place.

28:33 Drew And the erudite and the high brow.

28:36 Adam Oh, they'll be wearing top hats and ascots and sing indubitably. It's just always, oh, those guys. I mean, they're funny, but it's just, you know, here's...

28:46 Drew You're talking about manic. You're mad after spending 20 minutes with them.

28:50 Adam It's really, it's like you're just, it's like chasing a greased pig around the studio for two hours. You just want to collapse and give up. That's all. That's some kind of, it's really, there should be...

29:00 Drew Kind of like we're doing with Audrey.

29:01 Adam Yeah, she's all over the place. She's more like just like a chicken who's angry. Angry chicken. Audrey, beautiful, beautiful angry chicken. Audrey, you know, first fell in love with when I was watching The Apprentice. I was, see my own...

29:19 Drew A image of all your other favorites programming.

29:22 Adam Yeah, I hated to see Audrey go and I hated to see the guitar playing hippie guy go.

29:29 Drew Danny.

29:29 Adam Danny. Danny was cool, played the guitar. You know, like that.

29:33 Drew He went pretty early though, didn't he?

29:35 Adam He went pretty early and it always bites when someone you kind of dig goes early. And it's interesting with those.

29:42 Audrey Evans He tried so hard to make Mr. Trump happy and like him.

29:45 Adam Yeah.

29:46 Audrey Evans Yeah.

29:46 Adam No such luck.

29:48 Audrey Evans Well, he's looking back in a ponytail and stuff and be all nice and proper and clean up and yeah.

29:54 Adam Yeah. You're saying you wonder about guys. I always get suspicious of guys who are in a good mood too often and I'm complaining about things like if I play the guitar, they're like, oh, why aren't the goddamn people turning when they can turn and the light is green? But they just keep sitting there like a hole makes me want to take the guitar, smash your wind shield. Like that would be my song. I realize all my songs just start getting angry. It would be complaining about stuff. Why did TiVo move the on button on the remote down in the middle with the other buttons where I can't find it at night? It's at up and top where it used to be. La la la. Like that would be my song. And they start off about daffodils and puppies and stuff. But eventually, I've just started complaining. Not Dan. Dan was happy. Dan was strumming and having a good time. And then once in a while, you think, I wonder if a guy like that could make it in a corporate setting, a corporate environment. And it's like, no. But I was pulling for Dan. I liked him. And of course, on the Street Smarts team, I liked Audrey, because not only was she, you know, easy on the eyes, but a firecracker, zesty. Yeah, it's good. And you know what? You know, once you establish yourself as that kind of person, then it's fine.

31:07 Audrey Evans Well, yeah, they're about, we're all about type A personality. It's all of us. You put a bunch of control freaks in the house and you're going to wonder what's going to happen. Do you, here's the first one to lash out, you know?

31:16 Adam Do you feel like there was some elements of overcompensation because you're young, because you're a woman, because you're pretty?

31:24 Audrey Evans Absolutely. You always have to be doing, you know, twice as much work, pulling twice as much weight and working twice as hard, you know, because people aren't going to take you serious at such a young age. So you got to keep that in the back of your head. I'm 22 still.

31:36 Adam But what about, and you know, take this in the spirit in which it's intended, but what about the element of having perhaps a chip on your shoulder thinking people aren't taking you seriously because you're a woman or because, and overcompensating for it. Do you know what I'm talking about?

31:53 Drew Anticipating it.

31:54 Audrey Evans Yeah.

31:54 Adam Oh, here's, I'll make this example. Happens with our brothers in the African American community. Every once in a while, black brother doesn't get a job, but it's not necessarily because of racism. Most of the time, it's like, well, ten guys applied for the job and one guy gets it. But you'll walk away thinking, it's racism. You know what I mean? With you, it's like, I'm beautiful, I'm a woman, I'm young, these guys are coming down on me, but they're just coming down on everybody sometimes. Yeah?

32:21 Audrey Evans No.

32:22 Adam No?

32:22 Audrey Evans No, because any other girl, any other woman on the show would have said anything to the guys. Obviously, the first two women that were fired from the show, they were both fired because they had confided men and listened to the guys on the team, and both of them as a result were both fired because they decided to take it into their own hands and do it all themselves, and the men turned on them. So, you gotta watch your back, they're not about to be your friends.

32:47 Adam What was your biggest mistake, you think? What do you think was the reason that got you on the show?

32:51 Drew But the women are going to be your friends?

32:53 Audrey Evans That's true.

32:54 Adam They turn on you later.

32:54 Drew The women are going to be your friends?

32:56 Audrey Evans The women are going to be your friends. The biggest mistake I made was in the beginning of this last task was I should have just taken my hat out of the ring when I knew that my team didn't respect me and when John didn't want me to be project manager.

33:09 Adam How would you do that midstream that way?

33:13 Audrey Evans Well, yeah, that's the thing.

33:14 Adam How could you do that?

33:15 Audrey Evans Well, no, I'm saying at the very beginning when I was trying to throw my-

33:19 Adam People were arguing with you.

33:20 Audrey Evans Right. And then that was where I should have just said, okay, they're not going to respect me. They're not going to do what I asked them to do. And even if I gave them responsibility, I can't make them do it. We failed because they didn't decide and choose to help out.

33:31 Adam I should have done that with Drew in the skin rash question ten minutes ago.

33:35 Audrey Evans Backed off.

33:36 Adam It is, well, no, it's a very interesting, it's a very interesting point in a good life strategy, which is, and I've run into this crappy situation myself many times in creative endeavors, which is you say to somebody, oh, yeah, no, this is going to work. And they say, oh, no, it's not. You say, oh, yeah, it's going to work. That's fine if you're doing it alone. But if you need their help, they'll make sure it's not going to work. And you're like, that is the best. That's the best. What happens is you just, you go, oh, no, we're doing it. We're doing it. Come on, here we go. And then all they do is sabotage everything. They drag the feet, they f up, they screw up. And then at the end, they go, I told you, I told you. And so the lesson is, is, look, if you're doing something completely solo, do your make your proclamation and go do it. But if you need the other three guys who are supposed to be helping you and all three of them are saying it's not going to work or we don't want you to do it, stop right there because they will see to it that it doesn't work.

34:31 Audrey Evans That's how they are.

34:32 Drew Oh, yeah. But the next time he decides to diagnose a skin rash over the radio, he'll think twice.

34:37 Adam That's right. What's true is not going along. All right. Yeah, no, more than just, you know, a nasally drone and a beautiful face. I got the cash register, you know, right here. All day.

34:53 Drew Yeah, it was awesome.

34:55 Adam Awesome.

34:56 Drew Robust. Yeah.

34:58 Adam Yeah. Robust. Hardy. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Funny. Hey, what about the who was on the show we're talking about that knew a friend of mine?

35:12 Audrey Evans Oh, Andy McKnight.

35:15 Adam Yeah, that's familiar.

35:16 Audrey Evans You know what she said that was interesting? She said, Oh, I know, I know Adam Corolla. I know him. I know him. I dated his buddy, Todd. He loved to talk about porn all the time.

35:30 And now I like it.

35:31 Drew She must be talking about somebody else.

35:33 Adam Yeah.

35:33 Drew Because she didn't say porn and masturbation. She said porn.

35:36 Adam Yeah.

35:37 Drew That's not you.

35:37 Adam I think it's implied. Well, she's my friend. Yeah. Well, how? Wait, how does my name?

35:43 Audrey Evans You're on a love show now.

35:44 Adam How does my name come up? I just told you you're doing this show tonight. Oh, yeah. I got to figure I'm going to I'm going to thumb through the Rolodex of my mind and figure out just exactly when the last time I saw her was. But I didn't do anything embarrassing around her. That's that's the important part.

36:00 Audrey Evans I don't know. I won't tell you.

36:02 Adam Good. It's perfect. I don't want to know. Nicky.

36:05 Yeah.

36:06 Adam You're 16.

36:07 Caller Yes.

36:08 Oh, yeah.

36:09 Adam I got it.

36:10 Drew Oh, you remember?

36:10 Adam Yeah. No, we're well. All right. Where I'm good.

36:12 Drew High school with you?

36:13 Adam Different Todd. No, no. Newer, newer as an adult. Had a friend, a guy's in Utah now.

36:22 Drew He's alive.

36:22 Adam He's alive.

36:23 Drew Todd.

36:24 Adam Yeah. A little bout with drugs, but he made it through.

36:27 Drew Todd that lived to 40.

36:29 Adam It was the first. Well, that's the whole thing. I've always told guys named Todd, you're not going to make it past 40 because there's no think. There's no old grandpa named Todd. It's not. Oh, we got to go see Papa Todd. There's nobody in their 80s named Todd. There's no old man.

36:45 Drew Todd is in the math.

36:46 Adam Who's? Yeah. The wise elder of the village. We'll see Todd. He'll have an answer. What? He has a gray haired beard, bearded gentleman. He wears a frock. No, no, that's Todd. Todd is the snot-nosed 14-year-old who lives across the street from you that's doing weird things to your cat.

37:03 Drew Yeah.

37:03 Adam Todd's not an old guy. It's going to be weird if this group of Todd's makes it to the 70s and 80s.

37:09 Drew What's that going to mean?

37:10 Adam Todd, Grandpa Todd, tell me what it was like back in the olden days. Grandpa Todd. Yeah. So I worry, like I said, if I had a kid named him Todd, I would change it to an old name at 39. I would do that for him. I would change his name to Petridge Farms Guy or some Lucius or something. Yeah, Bernard. Yeah. Some old, old, old guy name. So it means he'll go on. Yeah, good. There's names for 60s, 70s, and then there's 200. You'll make it to 200. Oh, good. You'll get the right name. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Beelzebub, yeah. Nikki?

37:47 Caller Yeah.

37:48 Adam Yeah, Ebenezer.

37:49 Drew Yeah.

37:50 Adam That's a good one. There's no 14 year old name Ebenezer and there's no 90 year old name Todd.

37:55 Drew Let's go right to Rubble Stiltskin.

37:56 Adam Do your math. Do the math.

37:58 Drew Nikki, what's going on?

38:00 Adam Hello? All right, we got to take a break now.

38:02 Drew What to?

38:04 Adam Well, it would just, you know, you did too much talking, Drew. What can I say? How many calls it would take? Audrey was rambling on that segment. She's going to reel it in a little for the next one. And we're going to come back. Audrey's here from The Apprentice, by the way. We'll be here. We'll come back. We'll speak to Nikki. We'll finally get to our question after this. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. The Wild Boys, Chris Pontius and Steve O'Know are coming in tomorrow night.

38:55 Caller Hey, Drew, why is it that when you rub your balls, you're jerking off, that it feels so much better?

39:01 Adam You know, it's so brutal because Drew's the man, so they gotta come in there and rub their stink on the man.

39:05 Drew Right, right.

39:06 Adam You know what I mean? Like, I get the feeling if you're just sitting here with a paperclip going through your nostril and some pants, you'd be like, yeah, leave the guy alone. But because you're the man, you're all buttoned down and up tight and everything.

39:17 Drew They gotta pee on you.

39:18 Adam They're coming in and screw with you. Get a rise out of you. Yeah, and I get hit with the residual yard. Audrey, here tonight from The Apprentice. That's her punching the mic. Thursday night, nine o'clock, NBC. It broke my heart to find out that she was let off the show last week. One of my favorites. I would say my favorite. One of the best episodes they've had thus far.

39:44 Audrey Evans Thank you.

39:45 Adam Audrey befriended Angie and Angie befriended Audrey. And it turns out I know Angie. I forgot. That's how stupid I am. I watch the show. I've watched six episodes. I've watched someone who I knew fairly well and probably saw for the last time just a few years back.

40:01 Drew Wow.

40:02 Adam I had no idea who I was looking at.

40:03 Drew Oh my God.

40:03 Audrey Evans Angie won the Nestle test. She was the project manager on that where we got the helicopter ride.

40:08 Adam Yeah. Yeah. Oh, through Manhattan at night. It was beautiful.

40:11 Audrey Evans Yeah.

40:11 Adam That's awesome.

40:12 Audrey Evans Very cool.

40:13 Adam I mean, think about that experience.

40:14 Audrey Evans So surreal. It's like right there. Statue of Liberty, everything from the air is wild.

40:19 Adam The thing that's sort of weird about helicopters is doesn't seem to be many rules for them. Like helicopters just fly over my house all the time. Nobody's saying, hey, you got to stay this high. Let's stay away from the Capitol. You know, just say, yeah, we got a helicopter.

40:34 Drew It's like a car.

40:35 Audrey Evans Well, Mr. Trump like lands everywhere.

40:37 Adam Yeah, he does. And here's how you know you've arrived. When your helicopter has a retractable landing gear. You know what I mean?

40:44 Drew I've never seen that. Big enough. The big ones, the big, huge.

40:46 Adam No, I'm not talking about the troop transports. I'm just talking about the executive ones where the gear comes up.

40:52 Drew Wow.

40:53 Adam Yeah. Although it's not good for me because I like to hang off the skid. You know what I mean? Like like Jeff Probst, you know what I mean? Just hang it right off right off the skid with my choker.

41:04 Drew Let's see if we can take a call. Okay.

41:06 Adam Leather choker.

41:07 Drew Nice.

41:08 Adam Hanging off the skid. Bring it down. Now here. Like the pilot doesn't know where he's going to land. Nikki.

41:17 Caller Yeah.

41:18 Adam You're 16.

41:19 Caller Yes.

41:20 Adam What's up?

41:22 Caller Well, about two years ago, I got into a serious relationship and that went on for about a year off and on. And ever since then, I've never been able to get into a real relationship.

41:36 Drew I've tried and how old was the guy?

41:39 Caller He was 16. No, I was 14. He was 15.

41:43 Drew Okay. And how was that relationship?

41:46 Caller The sexual life.

41:48 Caller We don't know.

41:49 Drew Yeah.

41:49 Adam It's all true once in a while.

41:50 Drew How was it? Was it an okay relationship? Was it abusive? Was it problematic for you?

41:55 Caller Well, I really loved him and he was a great guy. And then he got involved with the wrong people and I kind of cheated on him.

42:04 Adam Oh, all right. Same thing happened to me and Drew, actually.

42:09 Drew All right. But listen, that was only what, a year ago?

42:13 Caller Yeah.

42:14 Drew Yeah. Maybe you're still not getting over that.

42:16 Adam Oh, hold on, by the way. 14 and 15?

42:18 Drew Yeah. And having sex.

42:20 Adam He has a couple of felonies. She's banging around with one of his gangbanger friends. It's awesome. At 14. All right. Nikki. Yeah. Here's why I know there's trouble. Normally, you know, 16 year old having a little relationship trouble. Fine. You're calling from Bakersfield. Oh, that means trouble is on the horizon. Okay. Here's the whole thing with Bakersfield and Riverside. There's a handful of places across the country. I just happen to know Bakersfield and Riverside. Whatever problems you think someone has, like you got a 15 year old girl says she's a little confused. If her problem sounds like a four, put a zero behind it because she's in Bakersfield. It's not the usual teeny bopper. I got a crush on a guy but he doesn't know I exist.

43:02 Drew So it's a gang bang thing.

43:03 Adam Yeah. It's crazy stuff. So Nikki.

43:07 Caller Yes.

43:07 Adam What's going on with your family? Is everything okay at home?

43:10 Drew No. No way.

43:11 Caller Not really.

43:12 Drew What's happening?

43:13 Caller My dad left when I was in fifth grade. Then he came back two years ago, but I didn't even know he was here until last year.

43:23 Drew He's living in your house and you came back to the area.

43:25 Adam He was like a ninja. Walks around the house on his toes, snitch sliding behind the refrigerator when she comes in and flicks the line. It's like a cockroach rappelling down into the room and doing a shoulder roll in the bed on a futon. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

43:41 Drew Nikki, what do you mean? He was in town and you didn't know? Is that what you're saying?

43:44 Caller Yeah. He and my stepmom and their two kids came back.

43:48 Drew Oh boy.

43:49 Caller All right.

43:50 Drew So there's a mess.

43:51 Adam Bakersfield, stepmom, two kids coming back to town, didn't know. It's a disaster.

43:56 Drew What's your mom like?

43:59 Caller She's okay. I fight with her and she's extremely sarcastic and not exactly verbal abuse. I think it's called.

44:07 Drew All right.

44:07 Adam So Nikki, here's my plan for you.

44:09 Drew Don't get pregnant.

44:10 Adam Oh, please.

44:11 Audrey Evans Oh, that was good.

44:12 Adam Don't get pregnant. Do not get pregnant.

44:15 Audrey Evans Whatever you do.

44:16 Adam Don't get pregnant. Remember, you don't have a bone to pick with the entire planet. Just the two A-holes that try to raise you. Right. Always remember that.

44:26 Audrey Evans And you're going to be a lot stronger if you can survive all of that. Just remember that.

44:30 Adam Yeah.

44:31 Audrey Evans You'll come out winning a lot more than.

44:32 Adam Use it, but don't turn it on everybody.

44:35 Audrey Evans Yeah.

44:36 Adam Now, here's your job, Nikki. Your job is to get your grades up, go far away to some college and leave this whole crap hole behind you.

44:44 Audrey Evans Yeah.

44:44 Adam Instead, everyone just gets pregnant at 17 and dives into it. Like, what I'm saying is, is you've pitched your tent in the world's crappiest campground. Now, instead of pulling up your stakes, you are now laying a foundation down for some crappy house you're going to build.

45:00 Drew Now, it's a crap city.

45:01 Adam Yeah. What kind of strategy is that? Your parents suck, the neighborhood sucks, your house sucks, the school sucks, everything sucks.

45:08 Drew And you have no skills, you haven't finished your education.

45:10 Adam So, what you do is you get pregnant at 16 and a half, get a job on the corner, and then you hook up with some guy who never commits and he starts abusing you. And now you're there full time.

45:20 Caller Well, why do that?

45:21 Adam Get it together, get out of there.

45:23 Drew Absolutely.

45:23 Adam Everybody leave. I don't care where you are, go. And by the way, Drew, I'm saying get out.

45:29 Audrey Evans Leave Bakersfield immediately.

45:31 Drew Right now, right now. He might tell you the same thing, be careful.

45:34 Adam Leave the studios, what I'm telling Drew to do. All right. Nikki, that's your job. You understand me? All right, go off. Go to San Francisco, would you?

45:42 Caller No, I'm going to the East Coast.

45:44 Drew Where are you going?

45:46 Caller Pennsylvania.

45:47 Drew For what?

45:47 Caller I'm trying to get into Penn State.

45:49 Drew Penn State. All right, great. All right. Go to town. There you go. Good job, girl.

45:52 Adam You can be a-

45:52 Drew Just don't get pregnant in the meantime.

45:54 Adam You can be a-

45:54 Drew No drugs, no kids.

45:55 Adam You can be a Nittany Lion, which I thought was a nifty lion for my entire childhood. Nittany. What's that mean? Nifty. Now you got something. That's a nifty lion. Looks like it. Nittany. What the hell? All right, go, baby. Go forth and prosper, but don't get pregnant. Okay. All right. Thank you. What the hell are we? Fetish?

46:15 Drew Do you want to tease that one?

46:16 Adam Escort fetish.

46:16 Drew Okay.

46:17 Adam I'll tease that one. Kylie?

46:19 Caller Yeah.

46:20 Adam You're 27?

46:21 Caller Yep.

46:22 Adam You're a fetish escort?

46:24 Caller Yeah.

46:25 Adam Ooh, you pee in guys' mouths?

46:29 Caller Yeah. Isn't that odd?

46:31 Drew Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But hold on.

46:33 Adam My sister did that for a while, when she's working her way through high school. She was just, you know, hey, hey, you got to make ends meet.

46:39 Drew Takes all kinds.

46:39 Adam I don't judge.

46:40 Drew Takes all kinds, Adam.

46:41 Adam We're atheists. We do what we need to do to get paid.

46:43 Drew Kylie, hold on. We got to talk to you, but we got to take a break. Yeah.

46:46 Adam Hang on. All right. Audrey is here. You stay one more break with us?

46:50 Drew What happened to Angie?

46:51 Adam I don't know what happened to Angie. Angie was going to call in from the apprentice, and all right, well, we'll get to the bottom of it. All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back with Kylie, the urinating fetish escort after this. Yeah, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-1-1. The beautiful Audrey is here from The Apprentice. Nine o'clock Thursday nights.

47:45 Audrey Evans Hello.

47:46 Adam NBC. It just struck me as we were talking to Audrey during the commercial break about striking while the iron is hot, making the most of an opportunity. Playboy must have, they've come calling. Have they not? I feel like an idiot for not bringing that up an hour ago. They had to come calling. Any thoughts about that?

48:10 Audrey Evans Absolutely not.

48:12 Adam Not your thing. No. Not going to do it.

48:14 Drew Not enough money yet.

48:15 Adam That's smart. Drive that price up. I wonder, Ann.

48:20 Audrey Evans I'm the youngest woman ever on the show. So there's a lot more things that are going to happen and then Playboy. There's a lot of other stuff like Cover Girl and things like that that are going to come about and they're going to say, our target market's a younger group and by doing those kinds of things, you're going to...

48:37 Adam Well, let me talk about that. We have Angie from The Apprentice on the line, too. But let me just say this. First off, opportunities, amazing exposure. Number two, yeah, I imagine there'd be endorsement idea, modeling, makeup, all that kind of stuff. But then to me, like something like Playboy.

48:57 Audrey Evans Yeah.

48:57 Adam Is there a fundamental opposition to that? Or if they came up with enough money, hey, I'd do it.

49:05 Audrey Evans Uh, no, I just got a lot more on the lines than just, you know, there's not really a price tag that can say what can to bring me back to.

49:12 Adam Five million dollars. No, no. Yeah, but that that was a no.

49:17 Like really?

49:18 Caller Five million?

49:19 Audrey Evans No, not even for five million.

49:21 Adam Really?

49:21 Audrey Evans No.

49:22 Adam Why not?

49:22 Audrey Evans You know, it's not about the money.

49:24 Adam I've got a lot.

49:25 Drew Well, it's about the money.

49:27 Adam It's course is about the money. Well, because you know, it's not about the money. I got a lot of other opportunities, financial opportunities. That's about the money.

49:34 Audrey Evans If I could make five million dollars on another deal, that's going to extend me five more years and make another five million in five years. And that would say definitely. But Playboy might not be that issue.

49:43 Adam They don't. They're not putting out careers anymore. You know what I mean? I mean, people do Playboy and keep going. All right. So it's not not in your not in your plan. Construct. Yeah. Emotionally, just not not going to do it.

49:57 Audrey Evans I just think that I'm young. And so it might be just Playboy say, oh, she would, you know, you'd expect her on in Playboy or that kind of thing.

50:04 Adam All right. So you're not going to do it.

50:06 Audrey Evans No, no.

50:06 Adam How much are they offered?

50:07 Then I'm not going there.

50:11 Adam Why not? It's just here's the thing about money. I know. And I end up getting angry and get an argument. But here's the thing. First off, I tell everyone what I make. But secondly, if if somebody comes to you with an offer and says, you want to do something and you say, no, not not going to do it. You can tell us how much they offered. You're not going to do it. Right. I mean, is there I understand what the fundamental problem is with that. If you're choosing not to do it, you can tell us what they offer. No? Why not?

50:39 Audrey Evans It's just because it's all part of the package. It's all part of the principle.

50:42 Adam You turn it down.

50:44 Audrey Evans It doesn't matter if I turned anything down. We still wouldn't talk about it. This is business stuff and this is it could really, it could make you a break you those kinds of decisions and whether I thought it was enticing or not so enticing, it wouldn't matter. It's just it's a no-go. The whole idea is a no-go.

50:59 Adam All right, good. Now tell us what they offer. It's a no-go. No, I mean, it's like, you know, it's like in sports. So they offer, you know, the the the Yankees want this guy to come over from from the Indians. It's like, they only offered him four million over over three years.

51:14 Drew He's not going to talk to Angie.

51:15 Adam Maybe she got nothing. Maybe as you know, let me just ask you, though.

51:19 Audrey Evans Yes.

51:20 Adam You just tell me over or under.

51:23 Audrey Evans I'm not going to say 400 grand.

51:26 I'm not going to say anything.

51:28 Audrey Evans Nope.

51:28 Caller I'm true.

51:29 Audrey Evans Talk to Angie.

51:30 Drew Maybe she's got a point of view on it.

51:31 Adam No, Angie doesn't have any answers.

51:33 Drew How dare you? Now she's mad at you for suggesting she was not offered a playboy.

51:37 Adam I'm well, I'm not. I'm talking about Audrey. Angie's still on the show. Although she's off the show now.

51:44 Drew Well, everybody's off. That's the point.

51:45 Adam Right. All right. Four or five. Come on. Just give me over. Give me over or under?

51:51 Audrey Evans No.

51:52 Caller Why?

51:53 Audrey Evans One dollar.

51:54 Adam Can't. Over one dollar.

51:55 Caller What is that?

51:56 Adam What is that? Did I come from another planet? Like, why am I insane with this stuff? Or do they make you promise not?

52:03 Drew Do they make you promise?

52:04 Audrey Evans No, they don't make you promise anything. It's just something that morally and business-wise I do.

52:08 Drew It must be like kissing and telling.

52:10 Audrey Evans Oh, no. It's nothing like that.

52:11 Adam But there's no kissing.

52:12 Audrey Evans I know.

52:13 Adam That's the point. She didn't even have her tongue out. They just made an offer and she didn't want to do it. And I'm just curious how this stuff works.

52:20 Drew Maybe they make the people who are fearful there's going to be retribution if they talk about it all.

52:23 Adam They must tell you not to talk about how much it is.

52:26 Audrey Evans You know, it's honestly NBC and Mark Burnett Productions have both agreed that those are not options that any of the women on The Apprentice are even allowed to do.

52:34 Drew Oh, that's interesting.

52:35 Adam Jerry did it.

52:35 Drew Well, why don't you say so? Jerry did it back in the day.

52:38 Adam From Survivor? Yeah, but this apprentice.

52:40 Audrey Evans This is NBC. I don't know. I don't know.

52:43 Adam Oh, so they have a policy.

52:46 Audrey Evans No, it's not a policy. It's just that our contract states that we're secure talent through them until our contract's up for one year. And they're just trying to protect the show and as well as us. So in the sense, the show hasn't ended yet. And it's still a business show. And as long as it's on and the season's on.

53:04 Adam You could have said that a half hour ago. You have a contract that says no doing X, Y, and Z.

53:10 Audrey Evans It doesn't say X, Y, and Z. It just says ask.

53:14 Adam Oh, it says ask.

53:14 Drew Which means don't.

53:16 Adam Oh, interesting.

53:17 Drew We need approval, though. We need approval.

53:19 Adam So if you even do a Mascara commercial, they'll probably say you could do that.

53:23 Audrey Evans Absolutely. Well, and the thing is, if any of the opportunities are available to us, we can take and accept whatever we want. But it's also what NBC decides. They say, okay, is this going to kill the reputation of the show? Is this going to do this?

53:38 Adam So they get like a right of refusal. Interesting. All right. I'm still angry at you, by the way. Angie? Angie, hi.

53:47 Caller Hi, sweetie.

53:51 Caller Hi.

53:53 Caller Yes, of course I got off at Playboy.

53:56 Adam How much?

53:58 Caller I can't disclose that, Adam.

54:00 Caller There you go. See, we're doing good. Hi, sweetie.

54:04 Caller Hi. How are you?

54:06 Audrey Evans How's Trump Tower?

54:08 Caller Beautiful. Beautiful. We miss you here.

54:11 Adam Oh, yeah. Angie, you know how far you made it, don't you?

54:15 Caller We don't, though.

54:16 Adam We don't. Yeah. We go back, Angie.

54:19 Caller Yes, we do, Adam. How funny is that? How the hell are you?

54:24 Adam I'm doing well, and I see you're doing well as well. I'm trying to think when the last time we saw each other was.

54:32 Caller I think I ran into you in a restaurant about eight years ago.

54:36 Adam Yeah.

54:36 Caller Wasn't it? Didn't we see each other in a restaurant or something years and years ago?

54:41 Adam Angie was the girlfriend of a friend of mine. I don't know if you guys are still going out or anything.

54:48 Caller Todd? No. Todd and I are not still dating, Adam.

54:53 Adam Okay.

54:54 Drew Audrey did mention, though, that Adam was still talking about porn and masturbation even back.

54:58 Caller Of course. I love that he's made a career out of it.

55:04 Adam Thank you very much.

55:05 Caller You're so good. I adore you.

55:08 Drew Thanks, Angie.

55:09 Caller Yeah.

55:10 Drew I'm a huge apprentice fan.

55:11 Adam Well, when you get kicked off, you can come in and see Drew.

55:15 Caller We don't know that that's going to happen though, do we?

55:17 Adam I know.

55:17 Drew But I know where you win, when you win the whole thing. Right.

55:19 Caller When I win, when I win. Wait a minute. I thought I won.

55:23 Adam I'm just playing the odds. There's still like, now, what is there? Like eight, nine people? Wait, nine, ten people? How many people are left?

55:31 Caller I don't know.

55:32 Adam Where are we at? How many, how many were left when you won?

55:34 Caller Nine, I think there's enough. Audrey, how many are left?

55:36 Audrey Evans I'm seven, so there's 18.

55:39 Caller But I'm gonna quit.

55:41 Audrey Evans Yeah, I'm gonna quit.

55:42 Adam Right.

55:42 Caller There's 10 left.

55:43 Adam All right, so now, so Angie, where are you now? Are you in Los Angeles?

55:48 Caller No, I'm still in Trump Tower.

55:50 Adam Oh yeah, yeah, no, no. We got, we got to ask that part.

55:53 Caller We're still in New York doing the show.

55:56 Adam Yeah, yeah, no, no. I think we're allowed to talk about the part where the show's over. You just can't.

56:01 Caller Oh, I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know that I am.

56:06 Adam Well, that's interesting because, yeah, Angie's still on the show.

56:09 Audrey Evans I want to talk about Todd, and I want to talk about you liking porn and masturbating.

56:14 Adam Yeah, OK.

56:15 Drew That's all he talks about.

56:16 Adam Angie's just making that up.

56:17 Caller He has issues.

56:19 Drew Oh, he has a bunker.

56:20 Caller I'll let you go.

56:22 Drew Angie, did he still have a bunker, a porn bunker back when you knew him? Or maybe he couldn't afford that bunker.

56:25 Adam No, I had an apartment.

56:26 Drew Now he's got a bunker, but I think he has retinal scans to get in and stuff. It's great.

56:30 Caller He's a complete addict, completely addicted to porn.

56:35 Adam Yeah, that was me.

56:36 Drew And he's been in therapy for 14 years and will not discuss it with his therapist.

56:40 Adam I'm telling you, it's not a problem. How dare you bring that up?

56:42 Caller You hold on to that, Adam. You've done well with me.

56:44 Adam Thank you. That's mine. I'm keeping it. All right there, baby doll. Well, we'll see you soon. Sorry to hear about you and Todd, by the way.

56:54 Caller Well, thank you.

56:55 Adam And you used to live in like Studio City or North Hollywood or something, didn't you?

57:01 Caller Yeah, baby.

57:02 Adam Yeah.

57:03 Audrey Evans Yeah, I'm just going to be doing a cabaret at the end of this month.

57:06 Caller Yeah, I'm doing Cinigirl and Feinsteins and all that.

57:09 Adam What? You're singing? You're doing stand up?

57:12 Caller Yeah, I've got a show. I've actually got a show at the Cinigirl the 19th of March. Wow. It's Saturday. All right.

57:19 Drew Were you flying out here from Trump Tower for that?

57:22 Caller Taking a helicopter ride to New York.

57:26 Adam All right. Well, Angie, it was great talking to you again.

57:30 Caller You too, Adam.

57:31 Drew Come on the show.

57:31 Adam Yeah.

57:32 Drew Come on.

57:32 Adam You know, after you win, come on the show.

57:35 Caller Absolutely. It's on the agenda.

57:37 Audrey Evans I love you too, Angie.

57:38 Caller Bye, honey.

57:39 Audrey Evans Good luck.

57:39 Caller Bye.

57:40 Adam Can't believe how stupid I am. I watch that show every week. I didn't even know I knew Angie. Oh, you know, I hadn't seen her in a few years. I wasn't thinking I knew anyone on TV.

57:50 Drew Right, right.

57:51 Adam Yeah. One time I saw me on TV, I was confused.

57:54 Drew But that's weird.

57:54 Adam I tacked the screen.

57:55 Drew It's weird for you, though, that you with all the, you know, notice everything.

58:01 Adam I know it's weird.

58:02 Drew Because you put on the normal person's head for five minutes. You know, people screen stuff out.

58:07 Adam Yeah, I just don't think of anyone I, anyone I hung out with back in the day as being on TV.

58:13 Drew I'm just saying you put that bias, that prejudice into your brain and you screened everything else out.

58:19 Adam Yeah. What prejudice?

58:21 Drew That you wouldn't know anybody you were looking at on television.

58:23 Adam Oh, yeah.

58:24 Drew You decided that. And then when somebody came on, you knew you decided you didn't know.

58:27 Adam Yeah. No, I'm, I'm thick.

58:29 Drew That's stuff that normal people do. You never do that.

58:32 Adam No, I never do that. All right.

58:34 Drew All right.

58:34 Adam Well, let's see. I'm human. Kylie?

58:37 Drew Yeah. All right. Here we go.

58:39 Adam So Kylie's 27. She's a fetish escort.

58:42 Drew What does that mean exactly? How do you, I mean?

58:46 Caller Well, I'm not an escort in the typical hooker sense. What I do is I do fetishes, which is generally non-sexual.

58:56 Drew How did you start? Yeah, I'm sure.

58:58 Adam I could argue peeing on somebody's in a way more intimate than giving a BJ with a condom.

59:06 Drew But anyway.

59:07 Adam Yeah.

59:07 Drew How does one go down that path? I mean, how did you get interested in that?

59:11 Caller It honestly, I mean, I got into it very slowly and it was for the money because there aren't a lot of people who do fetishes and how did you even know that such a how did you do them well? It actually was.

59:24 Adam Hold on. She did the fetish. I had her about 170. And when she did it well, she went up to one ninety five. Got it. That's just me. All right, Kylie, go ahead.

59:36 Audrey Evans Kylie, how much money do you make?

59:38 Adam Oh, look over here. Look who wants to know. Yeah. Curious, aren't you? Yeah, don't tell her, Kylie. Do me a favor. Just don't tell her.

59:47 Audrey Evans You know, it's because he wanted to ask the question all night. So let me ask the question.

59:51 Adam No, Kylie, don't tell her. This is how that feels.

59:54 Drew But Kylie, how did you how do you even know they were going to do?

59:56 Adam Kylie, though, I will. I will talk to you when when Audrey leaves, we'll talk off the air and you'll tell me how much you make.

1:00:03 Caller You know, I kind of paid you for that kind of guy.

1:00:05 Drew How? Oh, she thinks you're trying to make a deal with her.

1:00:09 Adam No, here's the thing, I pee on myself. I don't need someone else to do it.

1:00:14 Drew And you pee on everything else too.

1:00:16 Adam I got sleep for that. Yeah, I just doze off and whiz away.

1:00:20 Drew Kylie, how did you even know there was such a thing as a turn on fetish?

1:00:23 Adam I'm good too.

1:00:24 Drew I'm damn fetish escort.

1:00:26 Caller That's funny. I actually, when I was going through college, I was working on the weekends as a dancer at parties, doing like strip teases for birthday parties and matcha parties for college. And I had a guy ask me if I would spank him for $100. And I was like, are you kidding? And he's like, no, I'm completely serious. And I was like, well, about $100. Let's go.

1:00:50 Drew For you, Kylie.

1:00:51 Adam Hold on. I think she dropped the S-bomb. Yeah. But in a sort of playful way.

1:00:55 Drew Yeah.

1:00:55 Adam Let me tell you, the FCC should really take it like when-

1:00:58 Drew Context. Or tone. Tone.

1:01:01 Adam Yeah.

1:01:01 Drew Tone.

1:01:01 Adam Yeah.

1:01:02 Drew A playful F or a payful S here or there. It's just a punctuation.

1:01:05 Adam Yeah. If someone screams, I'm going to beat the S out of you. That's bad. That's bad. But when it's like, just doing a little S in that.

1:01:13 Drew No, no. She said, S, give me the belt, let's go.

1:01:16 Adam Yeah. What the S?

1:01:17 Drew Let's get the belt and let's go.

1:01:19 Adam Right. It's a playful S.

1:01:21 Drew But I mean, it's playful, but she's going to whack the crap out of somebody.

1:01:24 Adam She had an intro to put on hold so we could re-pot up whatever our delay is. But another interesting thing she did, which I'm going to do if I ever know anyone who gets into stripping, I'm going to say add the T's to the end of it.

1:01:38 Drew Strip T's.

1:01:38 Adam Makes it sound like it's some burlesque show.

1:01:40 Drew It's like Gypsy Rose Lee.

1:01:42 Adam She's doing a fan dance in front of the, instead of what's really going on, which is the simulated lesbian act with the utensils. But it's like I would do a little strip T's at a bachelor party. Yeah, smart though. You had the T's on there. Hi, Kylie. Please no more swearing on the air.

1:01:59 Caller Hi.

1:02:00 Adam Okay. So now what's a normal day like for you in the fetish escort world?

1:02:08 Caller I only work a couple hours a week doing that. So my normal day is I have two other normal jobs.

1:02:15 Audrey Evans Do your clients like call you and just say, can you come and spank me?

1:02:19 Caller No, I have a form that they have to fill out. They have to fill out an application.

1:02:25 Adam Really?

1:02:25 Audrey Evans Do they get approved or something or do you do like a screening or?

1:02:29 Caller Yeah. I screen and then they have to give me a background history, what they do for a living, where they live, what they're looking for.

1:02:37 Audrey Evans How do you check on all that?

1:02:38 Drew How do you know that's accurate or is real?

1:02:41 Caller Well, I asked for first and last name. Most of the time you can find people online and verify information and then I meet with them for a cocktail or whatever. I kind of discuss.

1:02:53 Audrey Evans You have a business account set up, right? Where you can like pay whatever you charge to.

1:03:00 Caller I put taxes on all the money I earn.

1:03:02 Adam You do?

1:03:02 Caller On all of it.

1:03:03 Adam Why? All right, hold on a second.

1:03:04 Audrey Evans But you're deducting like?

1:03:07 Adam Everything. Whips, chains, nipple clamps, the whole thing. You got deducted all, Drew.

1:03:13 Audrey Evans And the background checks, you're deducting all of that.

1:03:15 Drew The bank robbers, the bank robbers pay taxes on what they pay? Sure, yeah.

1:03:19 Adam Oh no, I don't know, Drew.

1:03:21 Drew You know what I mean? It's an illegal activity, isn't it?

1:03:23 Caller No, it's actually not, because I don't have intercourse with my customers. I do fetishes.

1:03:29 Adam Yeah, peeing in their mouth, though, that's cool in the eyes of the law?

1:03:32 Caller Technically, it's according to the law, not considered a sexual act.

1:03:38 Adam That ass is not going to fly in Audrey's Utah, by the way. They don't take kindly to that kind of behavior.

1:03:43 Drew It's good at Nevada.

1:03:44 Adam By the way, I want to do just a little Loveline recreation, which is, we let it go, but it's like, tell me what a normal day is like for you in the world, in the fetish escort world. Well, normally, I have two other jobs that I do, so I don't normally do it.

1:04:01 Drew Fascinating. Thanks for filling it out for us.

1:04:02 Adam Fascinating. What a colorful, vivid picture you drew.

1:04:05 Drew That's what we were looking for.

1:04:06 Adam Yeah. I wanted to hear about you temping over at the car rental place. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Can we get a goddamn answer on this show ever?

1:04:15 Drew No, come on.

1:04:17 Adam Yeah, her answer for me is, what's a day like in the world of the fetish escort? Yeah, nothing. I don't do that normally.

1:04:23 Drew Hands on phones.

1:04:24 Adam I don't know what I'm doing. I call into the show and say, I do this for a living, but when you ask me what a day is like for you in this world, by the way, you get nothing. I don't do it.

1:04:33 Drew Let's go back to her. All right.

1:04:35 Adam What am I asking?

1:04:37 Drew Really?

1:04:37 Adam I want her schedule.

1:04:38 Drew Good questions?

1:04:39 Adam Yeah.

1:04:39 Audrey Evans Good question for her.

1:04:40 Adam Go ahead.

1:04:41 Audrey Evans What's the most sexual turning on thing that you've done so far?

1:04:47 Adam For her or for that John?

1:04:48 Audrey Evans Yeah, for you. Have you enjoyed doing what you do? Do you like the pleasure of doing this?

1:04:57 Caller I would say not in a physical way, no, because it's very emotionally and mentally straining to separate yourself from whatever their dysfunction is. So you have to have a lot of focus when you're there to figure out what it is that's making them want to do this, because really what I'm there for isn't necessarily the act that they're asking me to perform. It's whatever emotional need that they have that they've distorted into this strange act.

1:05:28 Drew And you have a sense of what that is?

1:05:32 Caller Yeah, I think that some people are just naturally can pick up on things like that.

1:05:36 Drew And so now, I'm very interested now. So you have a sense of what the source of the perversion is and you try to meet that more genuine emotional need? Is that what you're saying?

1:05:48 Caller Right. So that's why I talk to people, what do you do for a living?

1:05:52 Drew But give me an example. So a guy says pee in my mouth. What do you tell me what happens to that guy? What do you think happened to him?

1:05:59 Caller You know, urinating on someone is a form of degradation.

1:06:02 Adam Yeah.

1:06:03 Caller So usually I find they are white, 30 to 45. They have a high stress job where they work a lot of hours. Usually divorce.

1:06:18 Adam That's true.

1:06:18 Caller Occasionally not married because they are career driven. And most of the time the fetish comes out of a turning point where they had just so much stress that they weren't able to deal with it. And they usually have jobs where it's like the buck stops there. They're the boss. They're the one that takes all of the responsibility.

1:06:40 Adam Hold on. What I always say. What I always say this guy was.

1:06:42 Drew Yeah, you've always said it's that guy.

1:06:44 Adam He's always a white guy, by the way. Black guy, Mexican guy, he's getting his ass kicked all day. Doesn't need to go pay for it to get his ass kicked. He's going to pay. He's going to get some sex. Number one. Number two. He's always a white guy. He's always in charge. He's tired of kicking guys around all day. He wants to get kicked around. They want it flipped on him.

1:07:04 Audrey Evans How many men do you think are out there that fit that personality, that category?

1:07:09 Adam There's two of them in this room. Two in this room. And I'm not talking about the eight men.

1:07:13 Audrey Evans Isn't that scary?

1:07:14 Adam Engineer Chris over here.

1:07:17 Drew I got zero of this stuff. Zero.

1:07:20 Adam Oh, no. No, no.

1:07:21 Drew Zero.

1:07:22 Adam No. Oh, yeah. Getting whizzed on?

1:07:25 Drew No. I got zero of any of the extra, the paraphilias. I got zero.

1:07:30 Adam True. Yeah. Drew's not into.

1:07:32 Drew It's not in anything. Very bewildering to me.

1:07:34 Adam No, but a passionate man. Do not kid yourself. If you're kidding yourself about his passion, stop. I forbid you now from kidding yourself about Drew's passion. Do not do not confuse his his his lack of attraction from being urinated on for a man who does not possess passion. Oh, he'll show you passion. Give me a mouthful of passion. I'll tell you that right now. Kylie.

1:07:58 Drew All right. So there's that guy.

1:07:59 Adam I'm not nearly done. That's the only guy.

1:08:01 Drew But how about the guy? Do you do any of the weirder stuff? I'm fascinated by a guy that dresses up like a horse and pulls the carriage around all that kind of weird stuff. Do you do those kinds of things, too?

1:08:12 Adam Kylie. Did she hang out?

1:08:15 Drew Oh, Kylie.

1:08:17 Caller Oh, I missed Kylie.

1:08:19 Audrey Evans That was a good conversation.

1:08:21 Adam I really got to get her back. I was intrigued by Kylie.

1:08:23 Drew Remember we had those fetish women up here and they told us that they have a corral where the guy's dressed up like ponies and they pull Cinderella's carriage. It's like, oh my God, who is that guy?

1:08:35 Adam I don't know who that guy is. I don't know who he is.

1:08:37 Drew This is something I'm not conceived of.

1:08:39 Adam I'll tell you, but that is as important to him as your passion is to you.

1:08:44 Drew I understand that. That's what makes it even weirder.

1:08:46 Adam And another thing I've learned, we cannot judge. It's impossible to judge.

1:08:50 Drew It doesn't mean anything. It's a pure random act of free will.

1:08:53 Adam Yeah. Yeah. No, the thing is, is these guys are always a mess. And but they're really button down guys. They're not like the alcoholic, you know, guys that are. They're not blue collar. They're never blue collar because here's here's the thing about blue collar guys.

1:09:08 Drew Well, it could have been your guy, Mike Stramat. He might have been one of these guys.

1:09:11 Adam Oh, my old foreman. Construct for now. Guys are blue collar. They're getting their ass kicked all day by their job, by their old lady, by life. You know what I mean? When you're eating off a lunch truck and you're just eating, standing up and that kind of thing, you got somebody yelling at you to get back in and get back to work and stuff. When you buy a hooker, you're in charge. You just paid that 100 bucks. That's who you could be the boss for 10 minutes. Do you know what I'm saying?

1:09:37 Drew And the boss is to be degraded? Boss?

1:09:40 Adam Yeah. No, no, no. The boss is not going to be degraded.

1:09:42 Drew Oh, I see if you're the blue collar guy.

1:09:44 Adam The blue collar guy. I'm paying 100 bucks. I'm in charge.

1:09:47 Drew I'm the sanal sex guy.

1:09:48 Adam Thank you. I mean, I don't know.

1:09:49 Drew I mean, yes.

1:09:50 Caller It could be.

1:09:51 Adam If possible.

1:09:51 Drew Yes.

1:09:52 Caller Could be.

1:09:52 Adam I don't know.

1:09:53 Drew Theoretically.

1:09:53 Adam Theoretically.

1:09:54 Drew I don't know. Are you talking?

1:09:55 Adam Are you talking? I don't know what that is.

1:09:57 Drew I don't hear anything.

1:09:57 Adam Here's. All right.

1:09:58 Drew Do you believe that?

1:09:59 Adam Let's just keep moving forward. Well, actually, we got to take a break.

1:10:02 Drew Yes.

1:10:03 Adam Audrey.

1:10:03 Caller Hi, guys. Hey, guys. Thank you.

1:10:05 Drew Are you leaving?

1:10:06 Adam Yes.

1:10:06 Caller I'm leaving.

1:10:07 Adam I'm out of here. She was going to stay for one hour, but I stretched it another 20, almost 23 minutes.

1:10:14 Audrey Evans It was so much fun. This is exciting.

1:10:17 Adam You had a good time?

1:10:17 Audrey Evans Very, very good.

1:10:18 Adam Yeah.

1:10:18 Drew Good in the Today Show, right?

1:10:19 Audrey Evans Oh, absolutely.

1:10:21 Drew All right.

1:10:21 Adam So listen, when whatever goes down, you know, when you become the new face for Maybelline or you do Playboy, whichever comes first, I'll be here. you come back on the show.

1:10:31 Drew Do her the favor of if she does go on Playboy, not asking her what they paid. I'm going to need to know. Promise that now.

1:10:36 Adam But she don't know what Kylie got paid, so touche. All right, everyone, The Apprentice, nine o'clock on NBC Thursday Nights. Thank you, Audrey.

1:10:46 Audrey Evans Thank you, guys.

1:10:47 Adam We'll be right back after this. Hell yeah. Gotta get it on.

1:11:11 Drew Hey, Kylie's back.

1:11:12 Adam Oh, really?

1:11:13 Drew Audrey's gone, Kylie's back.

1:11:15 Adam Really?

1:11:16 Drew Yes, really.

1:11:17 Adam All right. She went to another line. Kylie.

1:11:20 Caller Sorry, cell phone.

1:11:22 Adam That's all right. All right, we ain't done with you, baby doll. Now, Kylie is a... All right. Now that Audrey's gone and I did enjoy the poetic justice of her not telling me how much goddamn Playboy offered her and then 10 seconds later, what do you make? Yeah, see how people are? Fantastic. I'm praying she has a radio shut off now. I know the lump she had with her probably doesn't have FM in his town car. So, you can go ahead and tell us what you charge.

1:11:53 Caller I charge $500 an hour with a three hour minimum.

1:11:56 Drew Wow.

1:11:57 Adam Three hour minimum.

1:11:58 Caller Wow.

1:11:59 Adam Yeah.

1:12:01 Drew Does this guy, does the guy that wants you to pee on him ask for other stuff too?

1:12:06 Caller That usually includes like sitting and talking and like, I generally encourage going to dinner or having a drink and getting to know them a little bit.

1:12:16 Adam Build some urine out.

1:12:17 Drew Yeah, that's got to be.

1:12:19 Adam It helps me and it helps establish a bond of friendly bonds.

1:12:25 Drew How do you work into that? What's the sort of, is there a?

1:12:29 Adam Hold on, let me just say this. 500 bones an hour, get naked, baby. I'm gonna bang the bejesus out of you for 180 minutes. I can't imagine us just sitting at an Applebee's on the meter running. Drew, you'd be going insane, by the way. You'd be like, meter's running. She's like, any dessert for you guys? Yeah, what do you, I'll have the apple tart. Drew's going insane. He's paying for a dinner. She's been sitting here for an hour and 10 minutes. Drew's like, we're now up to $586.53 meters, right? Drew's going insane. He has an erection. That would be torture for you. Be awesome. She's ordered the surf and turf. You're going, oh, Drew, you'd be going, you'd be off the charts. All right, so you go out, so three, and now what is the longest session someone has paid for?

1:13:31 Caller Three days.

1:13:32 Drew Whoa. And again, what do you do in those? I mean, what other things they ask you to do? You're not having sex.

1:13:38 Caller A lot of times it's just go places with them. Usually it's like casinos or races or other social events. It's sort of exciting for these people that are interested in things that are not quite normal to have the thought of being normal and then have it go to very un-normal.

1:14:02 Caller It's exciting to them.

1:14:04 Caller Not all of them, but to some of them.

1:14:06 Adam Like pretty woman if Julia Roberts was 60 pounds overweight and whizzed on you when he got back to the hotel.

1:14:11 Caller Yeah.

1:14:13 Drew What other stuff do they have you do?

1:14:17 Adam Do the math. Come on.

1:14:19 Drew Mudslide?

1:14:20 Caller Yeah. I mean occasionally I will adorn a strap on. Usually it's, you know, they want to be smacked, spit on, degraded.

1:14:33 Adam How about number two? You ever do the two?

1:14:37 Caller I have had requests for it. I cannot bring myself to do it.

1:14:41 Adam Well, you can't blame a guy for asking. You just can't. You can't blame a fellow for asking.

1:14:44 Drew And Kylie has her standards, Adam, please. How dare you ask me something like that.

1:14:48 Caller Maybe they're just not offering enough, right?

1:14:51 Adam I do feel like, as I was saying to our young friend Audrey, by the way, five million bucks, I could have taken naked pictures of her this afternoon.

1:14:59 Drew You see, immediately, yeah.

1:15:01 Adam Yeah, you give me enough money and yeah, you'll get the mudslide.

1:15:04 Drew But immediately what I get is that the children that were degraded horribly become these narcissistic A-holes. And of course, that horrible degradation becomes a source of attraction in adulthood. And they can't get anybody really to do it to the degree that they need it. And so they get it done, they pay for it. But that's who those narcissistic A-holes are. Yeah.

1:15:23 Caller A lot of times, yeah. And sometimes it's not as obvious as that. It's something like really traumatic that happened to them when they were younger that they got horribly twisted.

1:15:34 Drew Right.

1:15:36 Adam And what happens when you urinate into someone's mouth?

1:15:42 Drew Wait, wait. You said they work through it? That they actually change as a result of what you do to them?

1:15:47 Caller To them, it helps them deal with it for whatever reason. And it doesn't really help them, but they-

1:15:53 Drew Maybe they end up compulsively doing this now. It helps them deal with it in the moment.

1:15:57 Adam Of course, Trisha. She's not a urine therapist. Hold on. That's a decent gig. I wouldn't mind getting that gig. And I know of what I say. I have whiz in the sink.

1:16:08 Drew Do you ever have guys like to wear diapers and crab themselves, that kind of stuff?

1:16:13 Caller I don't do that.

1:16:14 Drew But do they do that? They don't do that around.

1:16:15 Caller I don't like dealing with feces in any kind of way.

1:16:19 Adam How does it physically work when you urinate into one's mouth?

1:16:23 Caller It took a lot of work. Actually, the first time I did it, I almost threw up.

1:16:29 Adam That's extra though, right?

1:16:30 Caller Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was like, I can't do that. I got to charge him more.

1:16:34 Adam Yeah.

1:16:35 Caller No, I'm just kidding. No, it takes a lot of work. You have to really work the muscles.

1:16:42 Adam Hold on a second.

1:16:43 Drew He means position. Adam is how you... Where are you?

1:16:46 Adam Yeah, listen. I can whiz wherever I want, whenever I want. By the way, let me just say this very quickly. I don't like to brag about my urination prowess. However, 100 episodes of the Man Show, there were fans out there, never got more praise than the time we're doing the Wheel of Destiny, and I was able to urinate on a guy's wallet in front of 200 people. But I just turned my back to the live audience of screaming people, and immediately began urinating on the wallet. And people kept coming up to me, I can't believe you could do that. And I was like, I had to take a whiz. And they're like, oh, no, I could never, I can't even go at the airport, you know? And I'm like, I don't know, take a whiz. And I just started urinating immediately. I just, there's 200 people. I was in a room the size of a blimp hanger with no walls in it. I just started whizzing all over this guy's wallet. Poor guy had a picture of his kids and a pilot license. But the point is, is I guess a lot of people can't just sort of do this. Obviously, I'm a pro. They can't just do this on command.

1:17:47 Drew Yeah. But Adam, weren't you drinking beer at the time?

1:17:49 Adam No. Well, yes. No, I was drinking beer afterwards.

1:17:53 Drew It doesn't matter, though. You always have to have a good source of volume.

1:17:56 Caller Yeah.

1:17:56 Adam Listen, Weisenheimer, you put away a couple of beers and get 200 stranger screaming. And I see how fast you went urinating.

1:18:04 Drew Cool.

1:18:04 Caller I drink a lot of water.

1:18:06 Drew All right. So what do you do? What are you doing?

1:18:07 Adam Physically, how does it work? Where is the guy? Is he on the bed? Is he on the floor?

1:18:12 Drew Bathtub?

1:18:12 Caller Generally, I will request that they sit in a shower or a bathtub.

1:18:17 Drew Right.

1:18:18 Caller Because that way you can stand up on the tub and it makes it easier.

1:18:22 Drew How do you, what's the build up to this? Is there some sort of ritual?

1:18:26 Adam Yeah, drum roll and then he gets hit with the urine. Is that what you're talking about? Then the band strikes out. Ba-da-ba-da-da-da.

1:18:34 Caller You don't know? Or, I mean, what do you mean by build up?

1:18:38 Drew I mean, you know, how do you get to that point even? I mean, I guess you sort of agree.

1:18:43 Caller Most of the time, they just kind of go, hey, can we do that now?

1:18:48 Adam Right. And you do urinate into their mouth?

1:18:53 Caller With as much accuracy as I possibly can.

1:18:56 Adam Sure.

1:18:57 Drew And that's where they want it? All these guys like to eat peed on, like it in the mouth?

1:19:02 Caller No, no. A lot of times it's just, you know, on top of their head or sometimes, you know, down their chest or, you know.

1:19:09 Adam Oh, and do they consume it? Do they drink it?

1:19:13 Caller Yes.

1:19:13 Adam Oh, they like yogis.

1:19:15 Caller That's what my question is. I've been looking online and I found that urine is sterile, but I'm thinking there has to be some kind of risk of disease or bacterial infection or something with them consuming urine.

1:19:28 Drew No, they get a pretty good urea burden with that and they...

1:19:33 Adam Too much in their body. They have their own in somebody else's?

1:19:36 Drew Yeah, but they'll clear it quickly. And if you have viral illnesses that can be transmitted that way, so hepatitis C or HIV or something.

1:19:43 Adam Just like Kylie going, you suck on this tampon. I'm going to go in the next room and change. Are you okay?

1:19:48 Drew You'll be all right.

1:19:49 Adam You're okay?

1:19:49 Drew You can get through this.

1:19:50 Adam Yeah.

1:19:51 Drew But even those are, I don't think there are any documented cases of urine passing or viral conditions.

1:19:56 Adam Listen, it's good times. People do it on lifeboats all the time. Let me ask this. Are the guys masturbating while this is happening?

1:20:05 Caller Not always.

1:20:06 Caller I would say about 50-50.

1:20:09 Drew They go home and masturbate? You leave them alone to do that?

1:20:13 Caller Generally, I don't have a lot of say in it. They just kind of do it whenever they feel like it.

1:20:18 Adam Are a lot of these guys heading home to wives and families?

1:20:24 Caller It really depends on the fetish. Usually the golden shower, as it's called, fetishes, they're usually not married. Usually single or divorced. There are some, I mean, obviously, but it does tend to be...

1:20:41 Drew Obviously, Adam.

1:20:41 Caller Sure.

1:20:43 Caller Well, I mean...

1:20:44 Adam By the way, that's, look, it's all I can do to get the stripper smell off me after a little night of lap dancing with the boys before I head home. I couldn't imagine the full head of urine. You know, at that point, you just have to take gasoline and pour it all over yourself and just say, ah, this car blew up. Just light yourself on fire at that point. You know what I mean? Yes, it is. Look, I was at the Shell station. A guy driving a big rig spun out of control, took the whole. I mean, it's a disaster. I can't see it's on the news. Oh, good times with Kylie. Oh, you want to see how much she weighs. Kylie.

1:21:20 Caller Yeah.

1:21:21 Adam Are you big gal?

1:21:23 Caller No.

1:21:24 Adam No.

1:21:24 Caller I'm tall, but I'm thin.

1:21:26 Adam Oh. What do you look like?

1:21:32 Caller I'm 5'9, about 130 pounds. I have long brown hair, hazel green eyes.

1:21:39 Adam Do you have a boyfriend?

1:21:42 Caller I don't.

1:21:44 Adam No.

1:21:45 Drew Do you hate men?

1:21:46 Caller No, I don't. I dated a guy for 11 years, but-

1:21:49 Drew But aren't you a little disgusted now?

1:21:51 Caller I went different ways.

1:21:52 Drew Aren't you a little disgusted by men now?

1:21:55 Caller No, not really. I'm a little cautious when I get into relationships, but I wouldn't say-

1:22:02 Adam Sure. You don't want to get hooked up to the weirdo.

1:22:05 Caller Yeah, I mean-

1:22:05 Adam You don't know what kind of weird-ass guys you're into. Believe me, I could tell you. I give you real education. Let me explain what the world's like out there. A lot of these guys, button-down guys, you don't know what's lurking in the shadows. A lot of weirdos out there. I'll tell you why.

1:22:19 Caller Yeah.

1:22:20 Adam No, I mean, they want to have sex in positions other than missionary. They expect sex like the first five dates or something. There's weirdos out there.

1:22:29 Caller All right.

1:22:29 Adam So, Kylie, you make good money doing this.

1:22:32 Caller I do.

1:22:33 Adam Then during the week, you work with children.

1:22:36 Caller No, I don't.

1:22:38 Adam Okay, good. When does this end for you?

1:22:42 Caller I'm going to be retiring the end of this year. I'm taking the money and putting it into an investment. So, as soon as I get enough money to invest in my other business adventures, I will.

1:22:54 Drew What are you investing in?

1:22:57 Caller I'd rather not say, if that's okay. Yeah.

1:23:00 Drew I mean, like a restaurant or something, that kind of business?

1:23:03 Caller Yeah, it's sort of a mainstream kind of thing.

1:23:05 Drew Okay.

1:23:06 Adam Yeah, just kind of buying an RB franchise.

1:23:08 Drew Yeah, okay.

1:23:08 Adam All right, so stay away from lemonade. Kylie.

1:23:12 Drew I just have a special drink called the urine cup.

1:23:14 Adam So, there's money. How much would you reckon you make a week in this endeavor?

1:23:20 Caller A week?

1:23:22 Caller I would say probably anywhere from $1,500 to $3,000. I don't work a lot.

1:23:32 Adam Yeah, all right. I understand. All right. Well, let's see.

1:23:36 Drew Wow, interesting. Very interesting.

1:23:38 Adam It is. And it's interesting that there's a, it's more interesting that there's guys out there, not that the Kylie urinates on people for a living. And also, you know, I know this, you know, Drew, you've always had a career. And, you know, we've always argued about this. But to so many people I grew up with, work is about the money, pure and simple. And the stuff that they're having to do, which is, you know, I don't know, they're driving a cab or they're a receptionist, it's a dentist office where they're getting eight bucks an hour in taxes, or being taken out and stuff. It's just hard to tell those people, hey, you know, 500 bucks an hour. Now don't do it.

1:24:20 Drew No, she does not strike me as a trauma person so much, because she's smart and she's only doing it on a limited basis and she's already got weirdly into it and it's, I mean, you know, she's not the typical, it doesn't sound like she's acting on her stuff so much.

1:24:34 Adam Still, it's gotta take its pound of flesh.

1:24:36 Drew Oh yeah, it'll take a toll out of her soul.

1:24:39 Adam Yeah, all right, let's talk to-

1:24:41 Drew It's break time.

1:24:42 Adam It is break time, but let me just say, Anthony?

1:24:45 Caller Yeah.

1:24:46 Adam You have a Germany or Florida for us?

1:24:47 Caller Yes, I do.

1:24:48 Adam All right, hold on, we're gonna take a break, come back, play a little something, we like to call Germany or Florida. Yeah, love my name, Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Wild Boys in here tomorrow night, Chris Pontius and Steve-O.

1:25:13 Drew Oh, boy.

1:25:17 Adam All right, you ready to rock?

1:25:18 Drew Here we go.

1:25:18 Adam Talk to Anthony, play a little Germany or Florida. Go ahead, Anthony.

1:25:22 Caller All right, okay. A man murdered a female acquaintance and dumped her burned body in a remote location. Seven weeks after the crime, he remembered that she had been wearing jewelry and returned to the body to recover the loot. But the charred skeleton had been found and identified the day before. When deputies stopped the suspicious vehicle on the road, the driver attempted to get away. Instead, he crashed into the police portal command post where he was later arrested.

1:25:48 Drew Wow, that sounds like Florida.

1:25:50 Adam Oh, man.

1:25:51 Drew Don't know. Yeah.

1:25:53 Adam Oh, Florida.

1:25:54 Drew Yeah, Florida.

1:25:55 Caller Yeah, it's Florida.

1:25:56 Drew Yeah, and no specifics. Just feel. Just felt Florida.

1:26:02 Adam Well, first off, say what you will about the Germans. And as you know, you know my policy with Germany.

1:26:11 Drew Punish.

1:26:12 Adam They need to be punished. Or I'm not done punishing them.

1:26:16 Drew That's your policy. Well, that's your policy, yeah.

1:26:18 Adam The 80 million people, they were, yeah, I would say directly responsible for putting in the ground. You got your World War I. You got your World War II. You know, people focus on, oh, they rounded up 6 million Jews. There's another 20 million Russians. And that's World War II. Forget about all the sort of just sort of collateral stuff that goes on from those a-holes starting those two wars. They couldn't have, they gave it 20 years before they started the next one. That's not a real long time in human history. You got one country starting a World War in, you know, 1915 or whatever. Ends up like in 18, you know, 1918 or 19 or whatever. And then 20 years later, wow, hey, we're moving again. Hey, everybody, what, what? Another World War. Oh, who's starting this one? Same country. Well, Jesus, they just had, they just had one. Yeah, they're starting another one.

1:27:15 Drew Can we take care of them?

1:27:16 Adam No, no, they're starting another one. Oh, what are they doing? Ah, they're squashing Poland. This time's a little twist, though. Before it was just a World War. This time they're doing experiments on fetuses and twins and Jews and gypsies. And yeah, yeah. Oh, no, it's a whole different part of this. They're gassing Jews. They're rounding up Jews.

1:27:36 Drew Well, it's for the good of humanity. This time they're doing it for the good of humanity.

1:27:39 Adam What I'm saying is, is the first war they started 20 years ago that took out 40, 50 million people. This one has a twist. They're not only waging war, they're also simultaneously rounding up Jews and other folks and gas torturing them and gassing them. Oh, really? It seems like they'd want to focus on the war. Yeah, they're multitasking. OK. All right. All right. So here's what happened. Well, we'll get all our resources together, spend millions and billions and billions of dollars. We'll have to... We'll ship it all over there. They're going to sink all these container ships we send over there, all the Liberty ships, the Wolf Pack, the Substance Sink. Most of those guys will just have a watery grave. Oh, by the way, all the jeeps and all the equipment we make. Just go right down to the bottom of the Atlantic. That's awesome. That's right at the bottom. That's all your taxpayer money and everything, all that rubber, all this stuff. Just boom, all down the bottom. Just millions and millions of tons, just straight down the bottom of the ocean. Eventually, we'll win after a huge death, human toll and financial toll. And then we'll basically help them rebuild. We'll get them set back up again. And next thing you know, everyone's driving a Mercedes and BMW. Here's my take. Let's bomb them. I want to bomb them now. I just want to bomb. Not even just in case, like, not done. Unfinished business. Here's the thing. I don't know what you guys are thinking. I'm not sure what you're planning. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it's something. Maybe you got something up your sleeve. Maybe you changed your ways. Either way, here's a couple of bombs. There you go. And when they go, what? What is this? I can't believe this is an outrage. They would be outraged, would they not? They would be outraged. Germany would be like, what the F? How dare you? It would be like, yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, let's go ask the polls how they feel about that. Yeah, just bombing people, willy-nilly, starting trouble when you didn't have to outside your border. You guys invented that, remember? That's your idea. You taught us how to do that. Let's just say, let's just bomb Germany. I'm not talking carpet bombing, but let's just, let's take out, we'll take out a smaller, we'll take out like mines. You know, just a smaller town that's, I don't want to hit any car factories. That's my feeling. I don't want to go Stuttgart. I don't want to screw with Porsche or Mercedes or any of that stuff. You know what I mean?

1:30:00 Drew Let's take one last call. We got two minutes.

1:30:01 Adam You don't want to bomb Germany?

1:30:02 Drew I don't want to bomb Germany right now. No, no, no. I appreciate your point of view.

1:30:05 Adam You do like my plan, though, right?

1:30:07 Drew Excellent plan.

1:30:07 Adam Are we done with them?

1:30:09 Drew Evidently.

1:30:10 Adam Do you think, do you think that's fine? I mean, yeah, everything's cool. Yeah.

1:30:15 Drew Well, we're not, it's not like we've evacuated. We've got a few hundred thousand soldiers left behind there.

1:30:20 Adam Let's get them busy. Let's put them to something. That's all I'm saying.

1:30:23 Drew Nicole, 18.

1:30:24 Caller Hi, how are y'all?

1:30:26 Adam What's happening?

1:30:28 Caller Nothing. Okay, here's my situation. I've been with this guy for about a year and a half now, and we're not together right now because he has a really bad temper. And about two weeks ago, he kind of took it out on me.

1:30:54 Drew Yeah, Nicole, just your little girl voice freaks us out right away. I mean, we figure something happened to you growing up. And the fact that you would dismiss a guy's violence as just having a bad temper means that you must have grown up around that stuff to believe that this is in any way acceptable.

1:31:09 Adam But she did break up with him, or did you not?

1:31:12 Caller Well, um...

1:31:13 Drew Say?

1:31:14 Caller Yeah, I left like right then, and I was like freaking out, and I haven't really talked to him for about the last two weeks, and...

1:31:21 Adam You're good.

1:31:22 Drew That's it. You're done. You're done with him.

1:31:24 Adam What did your dad do? Was he abusive? Do what? Your dad.

1:31:29 Caller Oh, no. Not at all.

1:31:31 Adam Okay.

1:31:31 Caller I just...

1:31:31 Drew No, not at all.

1:31:32 Caller No, not at all?

1:31:34 Adam You didn't have a relationship?

1:31:36 Caller No.

1:31:37 Drew How about your stepdad?

1:31:39 Caller No, he's my real dad and he's around and everything. He's just not very there.

1:31:45 Drew Was your mom abusive?

1:31:47 Caller Do what?

1:31:48 Drew Was your mom violent or abusive?

1:31:52 Caller She has really bad temper.

1:31:53 Drew Yeah. Nicole, that's not really bad temper. Stop saying that. That is somebody who is violent, aggressive, inappropriate and abusive. Really bad temper is a way of glossing over something that's very serious.

1:32:05 Adam But the point is, you're broken up with this guy, right? All right.

1:32:10 Drew Done. Done. Stop this cycle. You're going to hook up with people that are abusive because that's what you come to expect from relationships.

1:32:16 Adam Stop. Yeah. Here's the thing, everybody. For people who aren't abusive, it is not in their vocabulary to lay their hands on people, especially women. It's not in their vocabulary. People think, well, he was really upset, or if you push him far enough, he's going to do it. But there's no threshold that I have where I could put my hands on a woman in a violent way. I don't have it in me. It's impossible. You can't tap into it. So the idea that, well, he just got pushed and that's where he got, no, no, that's a guy who's capable of doing it. You can't be with those people.

1:32:52 Drew Right. Or he's a bad temper. But yeah, if he's drinking and he becomes out of control because he's intoxicated, again, that's a separate issue related to violence and aggression. It's alcoholism. This is just flat out abuse.

1:33:04 Adam We'll take a little break. We'll be right back after this.

1:33:07 Caller All right, guys, here's the deal.

1:33:09 Caller You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

1:33:12 Drew One call is all you need to make. Call the Dateline.

1:33:15 Caller 877-889-DATE.

1:33:17 Drew Call the Dateline.

1:33:31 Adam Well, that's it, I want to thank Audrey for coming in here tonight from The Apprentice on Thursday nights, NBC, nine o'clock, one of our favorite shows. And looking forward in advance to Chris Pontius and Steve O coming in here from Wild Boys on MTV.

1:33:47 Drew I'm gonna make a sponge with me.

1:33:48 Adam Yeah, I'm gonna bring like a vat of Purell. So until next time, is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo?

1:33:56 Drew Take one last call, we got two minutes.

1:33:58 Adam You don't want to bomb Jeremy?

1:33:59 Drew I think we might bomb Jeremy right now.

1:34:00 Adam No, no, no, no. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold.

1:34:16 Caller Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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