Episode 1000673235871

1:27 Adam Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist, Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from the OC., Thursday Nights, Fox, 8 o'clock. Nicholas plays Misha Barton's new love interest in the show.

1:43 Drew And Gardner.

1:45 Adam And Gardner.

1:45 Nicholas Gonzalez Landscaper.

1:46 Adam Landscaper, come on, Drew.

1:47 Nicholas Gonzalez He has his own business, come on.

1:48 Drew But that's the way the mom looks at it, right?

1:51 Adam Yeah.

1:51 Drew Your mom's angry, mom's angry.

1:53 Adam Yeah, she doesn't want him dating the hell. Right. Yeah, she's hot. But, you know, there is a, I gotta say, I'm trying to think, probably second only to Pool Man, who's traditionally the blonde beach guy, the Latin Gardner, has the most sexual allure on the property. Garbage guy, he don't get anything.

2:15 Drew Mailman.

2:15 Nicholas Gonzalez There's the Arab Cable Guy, I believe, as well, in the train sometime.

2:18 Adam Yeah.

2:18 Drew For a while there. That was a period of history, like 84 to 86.

2:22 Nicholas Gonzalez Now it's digital, there's satellite, there's the dying breed.

2:24 Adam But you still got the Pool Man, the guy likes to work with a shirt off. And then there's the Gardener, too. He's a man of few words. Hot Days, he does that mop, that sexy brown mop.

2:34 Drew He's always there.

2:35 Adam He's always there. And he's always peering. You can always see him through any window in the house. There he is. Peck's glistening in the sun, tan, brown, tan skin.

2:44 Drew And the symbolism of that blower never escapes.

2:46 Adam Yeah, it's powerful. It's very foul.

2:48 Drew On many levels.

2:50 It's all the blower.

2:51 Adam That's the word blower right in it. Yeah.

2:53 Nicholas Gonzalez My character prefers to do all that manually, though.

2:55 Adam Yeah. Yeah. He's not a loud man. But besides, I think they got laws for those leaf blowers. I do hate it, by the way, when you're going down the street and the guy's blowing a dust storm, right? If you just got your car washed and he's doing that thing where he's hit the end of the driveway and your car's just driving, I will swerve and come on and go into oncoming traffic to avoid the blower. Yes, Drew.

3:18 Drew Yes, I'm with you.

3:18 Adam Not going to say anything?

3:19 Drew No, I'm with you on that.

3:20 Adam Let me say this about Nicholas, speaking of boners. Drew's going to get a boner for this. Stanford University.

3:28 Drew Oh, yeah.

3:28 Adam And then went abroad to Oxford.

3:31 Drew Nice.

3:32 Adam Which is like in France or something and learned more learning stuff there.

3:37 Drew More book stuff.

3:38 Adam More book stuff. What are those places where they lend you the books?

3:41 Drew The library.

3:42 Adam What? One more time.

3:43 Drew Well, library.

3:44 Adam They keep books there and people want to borrow. But it doesn't have the word book in it.

3:49 Drew I know.

3:50 Adam It's so confusing.

3:51 Drew I know.

3:51 Adam Can't they call it just big house of the book lending or you know what I'm saying?

3:55 Drew You can call it that.

3:56 Adam Here's what I'm saying. Place that sells used furniture, what's the sign say?

3:59 Drew Used furniture. Yeah.

4:00 Adam They don't make up a new word. They should have the word book in it.

4:04 Drew All right.

4:04 Adam You know what I'm talking about.

4:05 Drew All those Latin prefixes really get you.

4:08 Adam Yeah. It's a Latin, but they might as well be speaking Japanese, Latin. Nicholas, what did you do at Oxford?

4:15 Nicholas Gonzalez I was studying literature and poetry.

4:18 Adam Wow. That's more words.

4:20 Drew Which kind of literature?

4:22 Nicholas Gonzalez I started focusing more on Irish literature and did my thesis on James Joyce Ulysses.

4:25 Drew You're gay.

4:26 Adam Wow. Wow. Heady stuff.

4:28 Drew I just read Portrait of the Artist of a Young Man. I could barely get through it.

4:33 Nicholas Gonzalez It's a great book. We read that in middle school. Come on.

4:35 Drew But I'm saying, Ulysses, I'm not even going to tackle.

4:38 Adam Middle school? Really? I was still working out of a Sullivan book in middle school.

4:44 Nicholas Gonzalez Ulysses.

4:44 Drew Oh my God.

4:45 Nicholas Gonzalez Yeah, Ulysses is ridiculous. I definitely don't recommend it. It's light reading on your own.

4:49 Adam Did you go to some special junior high or high school or something like that or prep school?

4:56 Nicholas Gonzalez No. I was in public school for a while, but I went to a private high school that the rest of my family had gone to. It wasn't really like higher caliber learning.

5:03 Drew Irish poetry?

5:05 Nicholas Gonzalez Not really too much Irish poetry.

5:06 Drew Irish literature?

5:07 Adam Irish literature. You went to Stanford. You're born in Texas or you went to high school in Texas and then you went to Stanford. Then from Stanford, you did a year at Oxford.

5:17 Nicholas Gonzalez I went back on a research grant and spent some time in Paris and Trinney College Dublin. It was a great opportunity. More than anything, was using the money just to travel.

5:25 Adam Where did the acting come in?

5:27 Nicholas Gonzalez I just started with a little bit of improv just for fun. I was running cross country and track in college. Didn't have a lot of time for fun things and tried that and just fell in love with that but still didn't think of acting as a career. I thought you had to grow up in Hollywood, so it was a new thing for me.

5:40 Adam What were you going to? You figure you'd be a professor or something like that?

5:44 Nicholas Gonzalez No, I was actually thinking investment banking management consultant.

5:46 Adam Oh, really?

5:47 Nicholas Gonzalez They're highly English majors are highly recruited.

5:49 Drew So you're going to come back and go to business school?

5:51 Nicholas Gonzalez At some point, but actually go right into the financial sector and then go back maybe to business school. That was the idea just because I didn't know what I wanted.

5:57 Drew When did you graduate from Sanford? We were there in like 97.

6:03 Adam We were?

6:04 Nicholas Gonzalez You came to Kresge at a time, I believe.

6:06 Drew No, we did that about a year ago, but we always spoken at the Esplanade, the outdoor thing. We're like 97.

6:13 Adam Yeah, we did the big grassy knoll thing.

6:15 Drew Right, and frozen. Remember how cold that was?

6:17 Adam It was freezing.

6:18 Nicholas Gonzalez Cold nights in San Francisco.

6:19 Adam But it was nice.

6:21 Drew Yeah.

6:22 Adam All I remember is the following morning, I had to fly to Vegas because we're shooting a man show bit. Jimmy and Daniel took the chick who was supposed to pick me up at the airport at 7 a.m. in Vegas out drinking. She got in about 5 a.m. Let me tell you something the difference between guys and girls, and this is why we get a dollar and you guys get 75 cents because you know how many guys have gone out, gone, tied one on, vomited the night before, gone, head hit the pillow about 445, maybe 515 and then alarm goes off at 630 and they may stagger into work green but they stagger in. Every guy, every guy I worked with during construction could rally. Guys have a rally gene. Girls don't have the rally gene. Probably better. It stops them from going out and getting booze until 430 in the morning. They live longer. Yeah, because you figure it's got to take at least nine months off your life. You go out boozing hard until 5 a.m. and the alarm goes off at 645 and you got to put in nine hours a hammer swinging out in Bakersfield on some roof somewhere, right? I mean, guys just literally sweating Mickey's big mouth and chewing tobacco.

7:34 Drew That's what testosterone does to you. It is.

7:36 Adam Yes, women can't rally.

7:37 Drew But they don't have that drive.

7:39 Adam No, and women don't admit they can't rally. They say stuff like the alarm went off. I don't know what happened. I hit the snooze bar. Next thing you know, it's noon. You know what I mean? And they never just go, look, I'm weak. I can't do it. I was put here to rear kids, not to pick up guys from airports on an hour's sleep. But the point, now here's the thing that's funny. So she never picked me up. She just like throw up and went back to bed. And I had to catch a flight out of Stanford like 7 a.m. We get there like 8 a.m. We're going to miss you. Of course, I was miserable because I was up the night before. And I had no one cell phone. I had no idea what hotel we're going to. And I got a cab and the guy said, Where to? And I said, What hotel is in the middle of the strip? And he said, I don't know, the Aladdin or something or whatever it was. And he just and he actually dropped me off in the middle of the strip. I figured, well, might as well just go in the middle.

8:27 Drew Yeah. Work my way.

8:29 What finally happened?

8:30 Adam I think I just like sat on the cell phone for about an hour calling someone who knows, someone who knows, someone who knows and eventually got the person. But that's when I knew chicks can't rally. You can't rally. And stop pretending you can. That's the thing. There's that. You know what happens when you pretend you can rally, Drew?

8:47 Drew People expect you to.

8:48 Adam I get left at the airport.

8:49 Drew Yeah.

8:50 Adam That's what happens.

8:50 Drew People get hurt.

8:51 Adam Right. No, my wife, if my wife goes to bed, like after the streetlights come on, she won't go into work the next day. It's like, I only slept 13 hours. I can't make it. I'm calling in sick. And by the way, women for some reason don't have to show up at work.

9:06 Drew Yeah, the calling sick thing.

9:08 Adam Guys like, I got to go in.

9:09 Drew Why?

9:09 Adam Just tell me. You know, oh, listen, you got to compound fracture.

9:14 Drew I'm going in?

9:14 Adam Your tibula. It's sticking out of your skin. I got to go in.

9:17 Drew The calling in sick thing, you got to be your feet knocked out from under you. You got to not be able to go in to call in sick.

9:23 Adam All they got to do is play that feminine card. Just a little, just start weaving. Start weaving the tampon, and the time, and whatever. I got a college, I got a thing.

9:33 Okay, okay, okay.

9:35 Adam Take a week, take a month, full pay, full month. Quit. As a matter of fact, we'll pay you. You'll never work again. Yeah. But Nicholas, you can rally, right?

9:46 Nicholas Gonzalez I rally. I'm after rally actually tomorrow morning. Yeah.

9:48 Adam What time you have to get up?

9:51 Nicholas Gonzalez About six.

9:52 Adam You're going to go into the OC set of the OC.?

9:55 Nicholas Gonzalez I'm actually working on a film called Dirty.

9:58 Adam I see that here with Cuba Gooding Jr. and Wycliffe Jean.

10:02 Nicholas Gonzalez Yeah. Shooting here in LA.

10:03 Adam Oh, really?

10:04 Nicholas Gonzalez Dirty Cops. It's kind of based on the Rampart Scandal.

10:06 Drew People shooting a movie in Los Angeles?

10:08 Nicholas Gonzalez We're bringing it all.

10:10 Adam Yeah. Based on the Rampart Scandal, which is like a big deal that never really turn into a big deal.

10:16 Nicholas Gonzalez It turned into the shield is all I think it turned into. Not a lot of people actually get busted from it, but it turned into a lot of great TV shows.

10:23 Adam Yeah. There's some talk about Biggie Smalls or whoever got shot out front of the Peterson Automotive Museum, or maybe it was the Tom Museum of Tolerance, ironically. But whoever the rapper was, Biggie, who got shot about four or five years ago, there's some Rampart Police.

10:47 Nicholas Gonzalez Oh, a tie-in, actually, yeah.

10:49 Adam There's a crazy tie-in thing that just sort of got swept under the carpet, and they think the guy who did it was a cop, was a record of this or that.

10:56 Nicholas Gonzalez Strangely enough, these guys keep coming out with CDs.

10:58 Adam Yeah.

11:00 Drew Yeah, it's amazing. More than when they were living.

11:02 Adam Oh, yeah. Drew, when you pass on, that's when you're really going to start being productive on this radio show.

11:08 Drew Yeah. It certainly wouldn't be hard to do more than I was living.

11:10 Adam Anderson, do you have any kind of virtual Drew we can do? Let's see if we can get a little entertainment out of you. All right. So when he wrapped that.

11:19 Drew Are you a Mormon?

11:20 Adam Thank you. That was you, idiot. That's Drew's greatest drop.

11:25 Drew Chill pill.

11:26 Adam Anderson, give us a little best of Drew just for fun.

11:30 Drew I'm a rapist.

11:31 Adam Drew, let him do the drops first.

11:34 Drew Get your moist ass down. There's not much you can put up your butt. Where those come from? Who do you think you're talking to? Who do you think you're talking to? You are my teacher.

11:48 Adam Yeah. Do the one where he's yelling at the person. What do you, I like it when you get angry.

11:56 Drew Listen, listen, listen. Why is that funny?

12:02 Adam It's just funny because you're coming undone. If you know what, it's like a guy with a bow tie when it gets messed up and his hair gets a little screwed up. His pocket liner goes askew.

12:11 Drew Time to start listening, god damn it. He's an idiot.

12:15 He's a dick.

12:20 He's an a-.

12:21 Drew Where did that come from?

12:25 Adam Who knows? It's powerful. So the point is, we don't really need you anymore, Drew.

12:29 Drew It's great. I got a bad cough tonight and I can go home.

12:32 Adam No, I want you to stay here.

12:34 Drew Just listen to the virtual drops.

12:35 Adam No, I'd like you to get me some coffee.

12:37 Drew Oh yeah, that too.

12:38 Adam And not cough into it. I had to train Drew to put his hand in front of his goddamn mouth when he coughs. Drew, you're a doctor.

12:45 Drew Have you ever contracted anything from me ever?

12:47 Adam Who knows what I've got? I could have AIDS and hepatitis right now. Doing body, doing battle for lead disease in me.

12:55 Drew That is a world class dick. Oh yeah, right.

12:58 Adam That's from when we went to Stanford. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's take some phone calls. Let's rally. Nicholas, get a hand in.

13:06 Let's break it down.

13:08 Adam All right. Let's go to the phones now. Jessica.

13:12 Caller Yes.

13:15 Adam What's up?

13:16 Caller I wanted to talk to Dr. Drew about this little thing that's kind of gotten out of hand with me in the last four years.

13:23 Mm hmm.

13:26 Caller Okay. I have this daddy thing. I guess it started about a year after I got married. It started off as just like light spanking older men. Wasn't really sexual.

13:37 Drew Light spanking?

13:38 Caller Yeah. Who's your daddy kind of thing. It's grown into where I've actually joined a few play groups and got into it to the point where I have, I guess what you would call in the BDSM world a master, but it's more of like a daddy thing. It's gotten sexual and it's just gotten to the point where I don't know, I think it's out of control and I just want more of the deeper it gets.

14:04 Adam Do you have a safe word? I'm always interested in that. What is it?

14:08 Caller Red.

14:09 Adam Oh. I figure safe word should be like a fraternities have secret handshakes.

14:15 Drew Should be a secret?

14:16 Adam You shouldn't be able to divulge that. That's like your pin number, that safe word. Once they start finding that out, you're screwed. But people picking it up using your safe word, that's your handle. That's like what a handle is to a trucker. The BDSM people, your safe word.

14:30 Drew Have you ever been addicted to a drug?

14:33 Caller No, not really. I experimented in high school and college.

14:35 Drew But didn't get strung out anything?

14:38 Adam So what do you like? You're on the bottom of the... I mean, it's your fanny turning red, right? When the guy's beating you?

14:48 Caller It's gotten to a deeper level than that. I mean, it was never sexual and now it's sexual. I'm married. I have two kids. I'm a professional. I mean, I work at 855 job. I take care of my family. But in the evenings, I'm sneaking out to go over and just...

15:00 Drew Well, this is an addiction now, Jessica.

15:02 Adam You mean with someone other than your husband?

15:04 Caller Yeah.

15:04 Drew Right.

15:05 Adam So this is cheating then, right?

15:07 Drew This is cheating, but this is more, this is compulsion, this is addiction.

15:11 Adam But you're having sex with these people?

15:14 Caller But you have to understand, the person I was now, the sexual level I get to, I've never had an orgasm or been brought into the level. I've been brought in with him. I mean, it's just this sub-heaven. I don't even...

15:24 Adam Hold on. Are professionals supposed to say brought in?

15:26 Drew Yeah, no. A professional is like checker at the grocery store.

15:29 Nicholas Gonzalez Is it a sub-heaven or a super heaven actually if it's greater, right?

15:31 Drew Good point. What would Dante say about that? Mars, Venus, what level of heaven did she get to?

15:38 Adam Yeah. Brought in is a kind of sausage, I think.

15:42 Nicholas Gonzalez Second ring.

15:43 Adam Jessica? What do you do, by the way, just out of curiosity?

15:48 Caller I'm a nurse.

15:49 Adam Oh, okay. All right.

15:51 Nicholas Gonzalez She's not really a professional then.

15:52 Drew Well, what happened to you growing up? Do you have some sort of trauma history?

15:54 Adam Come on, Nicholas.

15:55 Caller Not really.

15:56 Drew Not really?

15:57 Adam All nurses had some sort of trauma history. True place.

16:01 Caller No. I mean, my mom would whup us, but I mean, who didn't get whupped? I grew up in Texas.

16:05 Drew Jessica, that's physical abuse. I don't care where you grew up. It is what it is. It just has an effect on people growing up. One of the more common consequences is that people end up sort of preoccupied with S&M kinds of behaviors. You got married way too young. It's not clear that you should be married, but most importantly, you're compulsed. You're addicted right now and you've got to get treatment for this.

16:27 Adam Two kids.

16:28 Drew Yeah, this is the horrible things are going to happen if you don't get going.

16:32 Adam And that whole part where the kids don't know what you're doing, so they're completely unaffected is BS.

16:39 Drew Nonsense.

16:39 Adam They don't have to know what you're doing. They just know. Kids are sponges. They feel stuff. They don't have to know where it's coming from. They know when mommy's a screw up. That's what they're getting off of you. They're sucking all that up.

16:51 Drew That and just like heroin or any other addiction, eventually the House of Cards fails. There will be consequences and they will be serious. So you get some help from this, Jessica.

16:59 Adam But wait a minute. How does your husband, by the way, and I know you sound angry at him because when I was asking about the sexual part, you were just saying, well, he's never brought me to an orgasm. Believe me, if that was a criteria for cheating, I would have killed myself years ago.

17:14 Drew Me and your wife would have.

17:16 Adam No, years. Years I would have never met my wife. I would have killed myself at junior high.

17:22 Drew Right.

17:22 Adam Good point. If not bringing a woman to orgasm and it was OK to cheat on you.

17:26 Drew Yeah. Yeah.

17:27 Adam I'd be doing the show of a therapist sofa right now. You know what I actually have to do? I take my therapist sofa and actually I put a trailer hitch on after drag me behind his car when he went home.

17:36 Drew All the time.

17:37 Adam Never leave. No, we talked through an intercom. I'd be back there with like parking lights on and stuff, like directing traffic, but physically never leaving the sofa. Intravenous. Maybe like put like the truckers, you know, a catheter in me so I could, you know, but I couldn't leave the sofa.

17:55 Drew No.

17:55 Adam OK. Jessica. So your husband, does he know what you're doing?

18:01 Caller No.

18:02 Adam And what does he think you're doing? You're leaving and you're coming home with, you know, palm prints on your ass?

18:09 Caller Well, I'm a supervisor for the company I work for. We have homes and we deal with, you know, in-home care with, you know, mentally handicapped, elderly, disabled. So when anything happens, I get called out to, you know, deal with it. And, you know, he's leaving at night for no reason.

18:26 Adam So you, but you go to these clubs, you have intercourse with these men?

18:30 Caller No. And it's not OK. Don't get that wrong. It's not man. It hasn't been a huge variety of them. And I think I've had probably three in the last four years and they've all been long term. But the level that we get to just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

18:42 Nicholas Gonzalez Long term relationships outside the wedding. I mean outside the marriage.

18:44 Adam I can see the guy just dodging. OK. Well, if it now, as long as you're not having just cheap, tawdry sex, you're actually in love with this one.

18:51 Drew It's one a year or two. It's good.

18:52 Adam Yeah. By the way, you're 23. Let's see. By the time you're 40, let's do the math.

18:56 Drew She's really going to get in trouble here. She's something horrible.

18:59 Adam Hi, Jessica. The wheels are going to come off your S&M wagon any second now. You got to get some help. You're a nurse. You understand the concept of getting help. What?

19:08 Caller Yes, but I mean, where do you go for something like this? I mean, what if I go to a psychotherapist and say, I like to be spanked? Can you help me?

19:14 Drew No, no. You need to go to somebody who specializes in treating sexual addictions. This requires a very specific kind of treatment intervention. It's a particular behavior, it's a particular syndrome, and there are specialists in this area. I would suggest you call Delamo Treatment Center in Torrance, California and see if they have any referrals in your area.

19:34 Adam Okay.

19:36 Drew They're out here, we're out in Los Angeles, that's the best place I know of.

19:38 Adam Really?

19:39 Drew Yeah.

19:40 Adam What else do they do?

19:40 Drew They treat a lot of porn stars, a lot of people.

19:42 Adam They do.

19:42 Drew Oh, yeah. Sorry, Adam, they take some of your favorites off the screen.

19:46 Adam They need me like guest lecturers or anything like that. I like to come in.

19:49 Drew Sometimes they're looking for perps, yeah, looking for perpetrators.

19:52 Nicholas Gonzalez Hang out in the waiting room.

19:53 Adam Yeah.

19:53 Drew But Jessica, please take care of this. You have a sense of this thing progressing, you don't have a sense of the consequences that can develop, and it can be awful like any other addiction, and you've got a family to concern yourself with a career. Get with it. It's D-E-L-A-M-O in Torrance, California and ask for referral in your area. All right.

20:11 Adam Now, what do you do with the husband? Because I know it's so easy to do this. Look, you come clean. Drew, over here, buddy.

20:19 Drew I'm sorry. My God, this is ridiculous.

20:21 Adam Drew, you have TB.

20:22 Drew She could be.

20:23 Adam Now, I have it and so does Nicholas. Here's my point. What do you do with the husband? You come clean? Because I'm a huge fan of lying to the spouse. I mean, this guy hears, yeah, sweetie, for the last two and a half years, I've been sitting, remember all those emergency calls? I was not going there. I was going to a Bob's bonded shack and I was getting the crap beat out of me by a Korean businessman. We had a relationship for a year and a half. Does he need to hear that?

20:56 Drew Well, one of the things that-

20:57 Adam What does he need to hear?

20:58 Drew Well, nothing at first, just that she's got psychological problems and needs treatment. But ultimately, the people that treat sexual addictions do specialize in dealing with the feelings of betrayal that the partner undoubtedly will have. And you try to preserve that relationship, try to get through that. It's very difficult.

21:14 Adam I'd be great. That'd be my job, that counselor. What is it, Doc? Is she smoking pot? Oh, that'd be the best day of your life, buddy. Best day. What is it? Is it something? What is it? Speed? Cocaine? No.

21:29 No.

21:30 Adam No. No. Because I noticed sometimes the drugs make it difficult for her to sit down. She seems to have pain. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

21:40 Oh, yeah.

21:41 Adam It would just be a horrible gig just telling people, look, she's been with a handful of guys who've been beating her ass and having a rough trade, a hair tuck. But now she had a safe word.

21:54 Drew But think about it this way, at a certain point when the behaviors are way bizarre and out of line and sick, some of the parts just go, oh, she's sick, I didn't know it. I was just, so it's like this is a different person.

22:08 Adam Well, but it becomes like your car got stolen, you want to get it back and then you find out it was in the bottom of a mire and it's covered in, and that's when you just, it's an insurance thing. I mean, you just, wow, this is a total. Now I'm walking away. I gotta drive a Taurus for a few months and then I gotta get a new ride.

22:25 Drew Or you look at it and say, oh, that Taurus is a fat chick.

22:28 Adam This is like I have sex with her for a while and then I get a new ride. See what I'm saying? Yeah, I couldn't take it, but I don't know. Nicholas, could you take it? Could you forgive? Could you move on?

22:40 Nicholas Gonzalez I don't want to discourage her from finding out.

22:43 Drew Because a lot of people can't.

22:43 Nicholas Gonzalez You'd be surprised what people are willing to accept.

22:45 Drew Well, not only that, you've got a family to worry about. It's a whole different context. And boy, I don't know. So painful.

22:52 Adam All right. Well, let's keep moving, because some guy burned his genitalia, his blowtorch.

22:57 Drew He's still staying in that upbeat.

22:58 Adam Mike? Yeah. Boy, imagine what that smells like. You burn a pew, but it smells like flesh on a radiator.

23:06 Drew The funk that goes on in your junk. The paper mache would go up and the talc and everything. It would explode. It would be an explosion.

23:13 Adam No. Yeah. I mean, I got enough going on down there.

23:17 Drew All the gases and stuff, it would be some kind of flammable.

23:21 Adam Hey, Mike?

23:22 Yeah.

23:23 Adam What happened to your genitals?

23:26 I was torching to work and somehow I got propane or oxygen in my pants leg and it just ignited.

23:34 Adam Wouldn't it? Would oxygen ignite or wouldn't it have to be propane?

23:41 I was told it could be either or.

23:42 Adam Oh, really?

23:43 Drew Extend the flame? Yeah.

23:44 Adam Yeah, I guess it can. Yeah, but just idea that it ignited. It went up your pant leg?

23:50 Yeah, it went up my right pant leg and it went completely down the left.

23:53 Drew Wow. What happened in the middle?

23:56 It was all second and third degree burns.

23:59 Adam Oh, were you wearing underpants?

24:01 I was wearing my boxers, yes.

24:03 Drew He was wearing them.

24:05 Adam I wonder if briefs would have worked better or worse for this.

24:08 Drew Fascinating question.

24:09 Adam But well, I'm just saying that if you're wearing like midways, like I like to wear midway, maybe it would have penetrated, maybe it would have went around there.

24:17 Drew Right. Just another reason to wear tighter underwear.

24:19 Adam Yeah. Hey, Mike, what do you do for a living?

24:22 I'm a torcher. I cut sheet iron and steel and stuff.

24:26 Adam Oh, you use like a settling torch?

24:30 Yeah. It's a three foot torch.

24:34 Adam You say yeah. All right. So now what happened? You got burns and everyone at work is making fun of you, but have you taken some time off?

24:44 Yeah, I've been off for a little over a month and a half now.

24:47 Drew Did they preserve your genitalia?

24:50 Adam Yeah. It don't look near as right, but...

24:54 Drew Yeah.

24:54 Adam They're one of those hairless dogs now.

24:56 Drew But here's the good news. The testes, how much worse can they look?

24:59 Adam No. Who knows?

25:00 Drew So it's not that.

25:01 Adam You would not look. You would not know the difference between testes of, you know, a Brad Pitt's or a Haggard sea captain's sack. The sea captain's sack could look better.

25:14 Drew Right.

25:15 Adam A Haggard salty sea captain's sack is probably as good looking or... This one's sacks become like animals. I can't tell you what buffalo is better looking than the next buffalo. Or what rhinoceros. They're all sacks are mad.

25:30 Drew Rhinoceros with the burn on it, does that make a big difference?

25:32 Adam No. Yeah. They're all a mess. All sacks are a mess.

25:35 Drew The penis can have trouble functioning. You can hold one side of the other and hurt one another.

25:38 Adam That's different. Mike?

25:40 Yeah.

25:41 Adam How'd the penis fare?

25:43 Well, it works. I'm just wondering if I could be sterile now.

25:49 Drew Did your testes fall out of the scrotum or anything? Did it erode?

25:53 It just hurts.

25:55 Drew That's your skin though.

25:56 Adam Yeah.

25:57 Drew That's your skin hurting.

25:57 Adam You didn't cook your sperm or anything.

26:00 Drew No. They should be okay.

26:01 Adam You're fine.

26:02 Because I've had a couple of doctors tell me it's possible that it could be sterile. So I was just wanting to see.

26:07 Drew I imagine it's possible if you damage the testes. Did the urologist told you that?

26:13 The doctor at the burn unit.

26:15 Drew The burn unit. I mean, I suppose it's possible, but why don't you get a sperm count and see? I doubt it. I really doubt that. That should be fine.

26:24 Adam Yeah. You can't do your own sperm count by beating off on a flashlight, Mike. You got to go in. I figured that I made that mistake.

26:33 Drew You tried that a couple of times.

26:34 Adam A couple of times. You know, the big, the lantern style ones are pretty big. Pretty big lamps on them. You figure with the light right behind it and like a sharp pencil, you could probably tell.

26:43 Drew And a magnifying glass.

26:44 Nicholas Gonzalez They just move around so quick. It's always hard to count.

26:45 Adam It's hard. I think I count the same one like 30 or 40 times. All right, Mike, good luck with that. All right.

26:50 Thank you.

26:51 Adam Get back to work.

26:53 I'm blamed on it.

26:54 Adam All right. I don't like to see guys milking the system that way. No, I got Burr and Chen to tell you.

27:00 Drew Isn't that different than the guy with the back pain who's out for four years? And Mike nearly gets his nuts fried off and he's, I'm going back to work next week.

27:08 Adam Yeah.

27:08 Drew You know what I mean?

27:08 Adam Yeah.

27:09 Drew Yeah.

27:09 Nicholas Gonzalez It's all about rallying.

27:11 Adam Yeah. You got to rally. Mike can rally. All right. Let's take ourselves a little break. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from The OC. Fox, 8 o'clock Thursday night, plays Amesha Barton's new boyfriend and also on NBC's Law and Order Special Victims Unit, a recurring role, got a movie called Dirty coming out soon enough. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

27:37 Nicholas Gonzalez If you need help, call Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191.

28:01 Adam Yeah, everybody, get it on. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight. He plays DJ. We'll call him the landscape architect, who gets to pal around with Misha Barton on the OC. Fox Thursday nights, eight o'clock. Also, new time for my beloved Crank Anchors, Wednesday nights, nine o'clock. Big premiere tomorrow with Jeff Goldblum and Drew Carey. Excellent. Tomorrow night, nine o'clock on Comedy Central, Wednesday night. All right, Drew. Yeah. We have been doing this thing that we started last night, as far as I know. Right. This is KROQ, K-R-O-Q, and you can visit them at kroq.com, kroq.com. That's the mother station. That's where we broadcast from. They are the founders of Loveline. Drew on KROQ for 10 years before it went syndicated.

29:01 Drew Right.

29:01 Adam Now, this is a thing that's open to the entire country, which is we're raising money for the Yasunami Relief, and we're doing guitars being signed and give away concerts, all sorts of cool oper-

29:12 Drew Have we been staying, playing your hand, playing a party you choose, Pennywise comes to your house?

29:16 Adam I really do think that Pennywise doesn't come to your house.

29:19 Drew Well, that's what I'd pay for.

29:19 Adam That one works.

29:20 Drew Yes. Who's going to pay for the cleanup?

29:21 Adam What's the cleaning up to? Yeah, because if you don't get in on that, Fletcher and company may actually show up at your house and take you to Poo Poo City and then... Yes, that's a very bad place to go. You have to take Hershey Highway to Poo Poo City.

29:36 Drew Sasquatch, Fletch.

29:37 Adam Yeah. So anyway, I don't know how much the Pennywise doesn't come to your house is, but it should be way out there. We should be talking about Fabergé egg type prices for that.

29:51 Drew One of the things you can do is bid to pay for the Tsunami Survivors to be a co-host here on Loveline.

29:57 Adam Yes. You come in and watch me talk at people for two hours.

30:02 Drew I don't know what their fantasy is of what this is going to be, but I promise disappointment. It's not worth what you're paying.

30:09 Adam I promise that I will be in my best behavior.

30:12 Drew Which already is unbelievable.

30:16 Adam I will wear a sweater and shoes and pants. I will not come in with the erection. We talk to these people?

30:21 Drew We'll be here before the show.

30:22 Adam I will talk to you. We will take a picture.

30:26 Drew I won't have an erection and sweatpants. Sweatpants and underwear. Yes, of course you will.

30:29 Adam Yes, I will. The point is, is it's up to six grand. But it's a tax write-off and it's six grand that's going to a good cause.

30:37 Drew Here's the other good news. The bidding does not include airfare, hotel, or food. You have to provide all that for yourself and income here.

30:46 Adam That you come out, you hang out, you co-host and we give you a nice disc at the end of it. You get a nice CD of it.

30:52 Drew Then wave goodbye as we sprint out the door.

30:54 Adam Drew and I. Then we talk about you all the way home, by the way. That's what we do.

30:58 Drew Oh, yes.

30:59 Adam Nicholas, we'll be talking about you at about 12.03 tonight. That's when the conversation, we gossip. It usually goes something like this. I thought he was cute. Dreamy. Yeah. All right. So, but Nicholas, this is a good time, right?

31:18 Nicholas Gonzalez It's a great time.

31:18 Drew Yeah, he's like, it's a great time.

31:19 Nicholas Gonzalez It's fantastic.

31:19 Drew He's looking in the eye when he says that.

31:21 Nicholas Gonzalez Yeah, yeah.

31:21 Drew Good time. It looks...

31:22 Nicholas Gonzalez Massager chairs. This place is amazing.

31:24 Adam Yeah. It's done up, am I right?

31:26 Nicholas Gonzalez Oh, yeah.

31:27 Adam Engineer Chris over there.

31:27 Nicholas Gonzalez We should see these guys in suits here. It's amazing.

31:30 Adam Yeah. Tails, top hat.

31:31 Nicholas Gonzalez Plush.

31:33 Adam So get those bids in. Come and hang out with us. Watch Drew hit the microphone with various objects. And you'll be on the show. You're not just going to be sitting there.

31:42 Drew You'll be co-hosting. You'll be listening to Loveline.

31:45 Adam Yeah. I may do nothing.

31:46 Drew Which, fine. We'll be happy to do nothing while you host.

31:49 Adam Yeah. Let's see what that sounds like. Hi. This is Fred. This is Love Phones. Let's go to the phones. Alex Sanders, 81, 18. You're on the Love Phone. It's going to be two hours of that, Drew, if I don't talk. What's it up to now, buddy?

32:14 Drew She's just written, Junior Producer Lauren brought in the Pennywise is $3,750 and the OC walk on $3,100.

32:21 Adam Forgot about that. Yeah. You may be Nicholas' next love interest, next Anglo love interest.

32:29 Nicholas Gonzalez That's for a sex scene with Ben McKenzie, isn't it?

32:31 Adam Yeah. 3,100 bucks. No, you will be on the set and you'll be in an episode. And these are things, by the way, the 3 grand, the 4 grand it costs you to do this will be long forgotten about.

32:46 Drew Part of your story though.

32:46 Adam But the tape of you on the OC when you're in your early 20s and looking hot will go on forever. That will be passed down for generations.

32:55 Nicholas Gonzalez Do they have to pay them residuals?

32:56 Caller Oh, yeah.

32:58 Nicholas Gonzalez The gift that just keeps on giving. You'll make your money back. Yeah.

33:00 Adam And then there's meal penalties, overtime, golden time.

33:04 Nicholas Gonzalez You wear your own clothes, they got to pay you for that.

33:06 Adam You go in there and wow them, you get a reoccurring role.

33:08 Nicholas Gonzalez Make a profit.

33:09 Adam Yeah.

33:10 Drew These are opportunities, not just adventures. That's what I'm saying.

33:12 Adam You come on this show, you blow the management away next thing you know.

33:14 Nicholas Gonzalez Oh, Adam's out.

33:15 Adam You're in Kirk's chair.

33:17 Nicholas Gonzalez It's a change of life auction going on here.

33:19 Adam Samantha?

33:21 Hello?

33:21 Adam You're 20?

33:23 Caller Hi.

33:23 Yeah.

33:24 Adam Yeah. What's going on?

33:26 Caller Okay. So when a woman has sex with a man, there's this chemical that's released in the woman's brain.

33:31 Drew Oxytocin.

33:31 Caller You know what I'm talking about?

33:32 Drew Yeah. Oxytocin. Right.

33:34 Caller And does this happen when a woman is raped or when she has sex and she has an orgasm?

33:40 Drew It doesn't have to do with orgasm. And I've never... It's just the intimacy of sex. Yeah. And I don't know... Not rape. No. I don't know about rape. I don't know. Well, I doubt it. I doubt it.

33:53 Adam I'll tell you why it wouldn't be rape, Drew.

33:55 Drew Because that would be a violent crime.

33:57 Adam Rape is a violent crime.

33:57 Drew It's not sexual at all.

33:58 Adam It's not sexual. No, it's a violent, violent...

34:01 Drew Nicholas, take note.

34:02 Adam It's a violent crime. Where you come? But other than that, it's not sexual.

34:08 Drew It's just like a liquor store robbery.

34:12 Adam If I walked into a liquor store...

34:14 Drew Pistol whip the guy behind the counter.

34:15 Adam Pistol whip the woman behind the counter, took all the money out of the register, and then came. It would be no...

34:20 Drew The same. It would be the same thing, right? It'd be rape.

34:23 Adam It would be rape.

34:24 Drew It would be the same thing.

34:25 Adam Well, the point is, if it's not a sexual crime, although you come, it's a violent crime.

34:31 Or you orgasm.

34:32 Adam That's all. That's all. But it's violent. That's true. If I just started... If I just jumped on you right now, unprovoked, unprovoked, and I picked up this computer screen, smash your head, and then began to orgasm on you.

34:44 Drew It would be the same thing. It would be the same thing.

34:46 Adam That's the same thing.

34:47 Drew How is it different?

34:47 Adam It's not different. It's violent. Where you come? That's all. But it's not a sexual crime.

34:52 Drew How dare they say anything sexual about it? Where do they even get it?

34:58 Adam How dare they? Where does that even tie in the sexuality part? Just because your genitalia is erect, it's inside the other person.

35:04 Drew And you come?

35:05 Adam And you have an orgasm does not mean it's a... I don't know where it comes from. It's confusing.

35:10 Drew We're in history of humanity. They ever come up with that?

35:13 Adam Are you telling me that every time I pull my erect penis out and put it inside a woman to have an orgasm, it's something sexual?

35:19 Drew How dare you?

35:20 Adam Please. It angers me, Drew. Of course. They put labels on things.

35:24 Drew Because this women become survivors of violent crime.

35:28 Adam That's right. It's not a sexual crime. All right. Now, Drew, explain that, right?

35:32 Drew Explain it.

35:33 Adam Well, what I mean is that without trying to sound insensitive, what we're saying is obviously it's a sexual crime to the person that's having the orgasm.

35:43 Drew Yes.

35:44 Adam It still can be a crime.

35:46 Drew It's still violent, but it's an aggressive expression of sexuality in men that can't contain their aggression, and from sex and aggression and violence kind of go together. The women are victims of a violent crime that is a sexual violent crime.

36:02 Adam Well, by the way, then there are no, by definition, then no sexual crimes? They're all violent crimes?

36:07 Drew There's no sex then either because it all becomes vaguely violent.

36:11 Adam What you do this, well, me and my gal went to Santa Barbara for the weekend. I beat the crap out of her. I mean, that's really what it is. I perpetrated violence on her.

36:20 Drew Same token, if there was a liquor store robbery, that was rape. Yeah.

36:24 Caller All right.

36:25 Adam All right. Anyway, so the point is violent crime, where you come.

36:30 Drew So Samantha, what had happened to you?

36:31 Adam Anything?

36:32 Caller If you get fingered or eaten out and it's intimate, do you release that chemical still?

36:36 Drew What do you mean and it's intimate? What does that mean?

36:39 Caller Well, you're saying that the reason why you release the chemical when you have sex is because you're intimate.

36:43 Drew Yeah.

36:44 Caller So do you release that chemical?

36:46 Adam I really love eating out, by the way.

36:47 Drew Give me an idea. She went to the same Oxford, again, same thing as Nicholas. You studied Irish literature?

36:55 Nicholas Gonzalez Were you brought into an orgasm?

36:58 Caller Yeah.

36:59 Drew What happened to you? Stop giving me the hypotheticals. What happened?

37:03 Caller So I'm wondering if I have sex with this guy, if I'm going to get more attached than if I just-

37:07 Drew Absolutely....

37:08 Caller get to orgasm.

37:09 Drew Yes. If you have sex, you will get more attached and he may not because he's wired differently.

37:14 Adam But Drew, what about a light finger blasting?

37:17 Drew She still might. That is absolutely the case, Samantha.

37:20 Adam Which is a violent, violent act, by the way.

37:23 Drew It's very peculiar or hard to understand how some women can, at certain times, not get attached when they're sexual. Some women can very easily control that or choose when not to. Others, no matter what, when they become intimate, they start getting attached.

37:36 Adam Samantha, why do you not want to become attached to this guy?

37:41 Caller Because the relationship is not feasible. It's not going to happen. So I don't want to get attached and feel bad. No, no. He just lives long distance.

37:52 Adam He doesn't like you that way?

37:53 Drew So why put yourself through that? If you're going to really start, it's going to be painful to get that attached.

37:58 Adam Where does he live?

38:01 Caller About seven hours driving away.

38:04 Adam Yeah, but he could make that four and a half motivated, Drew, as a passionate man.

38:09 Drew Oh, yeah.

38:10 Adam You defy.

38:10 Okay, I have another question.

38:12 Adam Wait a minute, wait a minute. He doesn't like you that way, though, right?

38:15 Caller No, he does.

38:16 Drew No, he'd be on his car coming up there.

38:18 Adam He's in love with you?

38:21 Caller No.

38:22 Adam Well, do you guys think you could have a relationship?

38:25 Caller Yes.

38:26 You think you could?

38:28 Caller I'm too young to have a long-distance thing.

38:30 Drew All right, that's fine. It's fine, Samantha. You're being practical about this. That's fine.

38:34 Adam She's withholding something.

38:35 Drew But also really, yeah, there's something more about your history that you're not telling us, A, and B, he's not that motivated or he'd be insisting that this go forward. He'd find a way to make it work.

38:46 At least until after you had sex.

38:47 Drew Right. Nicholas makes a very valid point.

38:50 Adam Yeah. All right. Samantha's angry too.

38:51 Drew What's wrong? Yes.

38:52 Adam I gotta find out. You're not asking more questions. I gotta ask some questions. Why are you angry?

38:57 Caller I'm not angry.

38:58 Adam What happened? Where's your dad? What did he do to you?

39:01 Caller I actually made that up.

39:04 Adam You made what?

39:04 Caller The whole thing? I made up the story that my dad raped me so I could get on the show because I want to ask about the chemical thing because I want to know.

39:10 Adam I didn't know your dad raped you.

39:11 Drew Adam doesn't have that information. So, but he's still picking up that you sort of have some anger towards Matt.

39:17 Adam Yeah. By the way, 20-year-old girls who just sort of casually do the dad raped story.

39:24 Nicholas Gonzalez Feel the need to call up in light of three men that she doesn't know.

39:27 Adam Got issues. Now, what's going on?

39:30 Caller I don't know. I don't think I have problems.

39:32 Adam You love your dad?

39:34 Caller Yeah.

39:34 Adam He's a good man?

39:35 Caller Yeah.

39:36 Adam He's, him and your mom are still together?

39:39 Caller No, they're not.

39:40 Adam When did he leave?

39:42 Caller Two years ago. All right.

39:43 Adam Is he still around?

39:45 Caller Yeah, I still see him.

39:46 Drew That's kind of weird, though, to leave when you're 18, right?

39:48 Adam Some guys wait until the kid turns like 18.

39:51 Drew But I still, they would be kind of resentful and angry at that. And we're just picking up some resentment, anger of something. And maybe you're just angry at this guy that you want to be involved with and can't. Whatever. We're just picking that up.

40:01 Adam All right. There's something going on. Yeah. Some guys, some guys will hang out, you know. That's kind of the right thing to do, I guess. Wait till the kid goes off to college somewhere and then, then you're out.

40:12 Drew It leaves them feeling like they lived alive for a while. Sure.

40:17 Adam I'm leaving you options, buddy.

40:18 Drew Oh, thanks. I appreciate that. It's good talking to you.

40:20 Adam Just laying a little groundwork, that's all. It's like a 401K.

40:23 Drew Relax.

40:24 Adam Just doing a little, you know, little nest feathering, that's all. The same, buddy. You need, you know, you need a plan B. You know what I mean? Every, every, every, every business needs a rear exit. You know what I'm saying? A little emergency thing with the bar on it. I'm not saying that's the way you leave, but if there's a fire.

40:43 Drew It's called Golden Parachute. That's right.

40:45 Adam I'm going to do something else golden on it during the break.

40:48 Drew You want to do that? Yeah. I can't wait.

40:50 Adam It's going to be awesome.

40:51 Drew Let's go.

40:51 Adam Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from The OC., plays DJ on The OC. And we'll take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back after this.

41:04 Thank you for calling Loveline.

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41:23 Adam Hey, it's Loveline, everybody. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from The OC. Thursday nights, 8 o'clock Fox. He's currently Misha Barton's love interest. Taboo. Taboo love. He's a, well, the mom. Mexican. The mom knows him as a Garner. Yeah, you don't really have to say Max anymore, just say Garner. Back in the day, used to be Japanese guys. We had, my grandparents had a Garner guy came, it came twice a year, I think, his name was Mr. Otaki. He had like a pit helmet on.

42:01 Nicholas Gonzalez He would teach you karate.

42:03 Adam Yeah. No, but I mean, Garner's used to wear uniforms, which is, everyone used to wear uniforms. Like people used to fly, they wear a sport jacket and an ascot. Garner's would have like, they'd have like tanned short sleeve, like sort of safari shirts, tucked into trousers with boots. And now the guy's wearing the making bacon t-shirt that's cut off, the two pigs going at it backside. Nice. And the confusing hat, which is the guys wearing the Cal Jam 79. I was there, you know, like you're, you're into Sammy Hagar, you don't speak English. Like you must have got that hat somewhere else. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But he cooks with tequila. I learned that in the Food Network.

42:43 Drew Queens English like Nicholas does.

42:44 Adam No, he went abroad and now he's on him. Yeah. Eric? Yeah. You're 18?

42:51 Caller Yeah.

42:51 Adam You have a Germany or Florida for us?

42:53 Caller I do.

42:54 Adam What's up? Here we go.

42:55 Drew Nicholas needs to know how to play this.

42:57 Adam Nicholas, I was going to explain, I thought, just hang in and then we'll tell you how it goes. Don't say anything.

43:04 Drew Listen carefully.

43:05 Adam Listen carefully. Go ahead, Eric.

43:07 Caller All right. A man is facing charges after forcing his neighbors to stop redecorating at gunpoint. Police say the 45-year-old man walked into the apartment of a 17-year-old neighbor and told the teenager and his friend to stop redecorating at once because the noise was getting on his nerves. While telling them this, he pointed his gun at their bodies and heads. After he left, the two men called the police who brought the man in for questioning. He is now facing charges for harassment and violating weapons legislation.

43:36 Drew That's got to be Florida. Weapons legislation.

43:39 Adam Was it Germany or Florida is the question? Where did this take place?

43:44 Caller This year, December.

43:46 Adam Yeah. All right. So, now, 17-year-old neighbors, young neighbors, decorating, they were making a bong out of some PVC pipe. They were decorating. They were banging on something for a long time.

43:57 Drew Right.

43:58 Adam And that was it.

43:58 Right.

44:00 Adam And then he got angry and he went in there with his gun.

44:02 Drew Now, that whole notion of redecorating makes me think, hmm, could that have been a German story with a translation problem?

44:08 Adam Yeah. But 17-year-old roommates.

44:09 Drew Don't redecorate.

44:11 Adam They put up a poster.

44:13 Drew Yeah.

44:13 Adam But they don't really redecorate.

44:15 Drew No.

44:16 Adam And redecorate?

44:17 Drew No, no. But the gun.

44:20 Adam Where are you going?

44:20 Drew In the apartment building.

44:21 Adam Where are you going?

44:22 Drew Florida.

44:22 Adam Florida? Nicholas?

44:25 Nicholas Gonzalez This is all stateside?

44:27 Adam It's either Germany or Florida.

44:28 Drew It's all weird things happen. Yeah, one or the other.

44:31 Nicholas Gonzalez It's in Canada, huh?

44:32 Drew Germany or Florida?

44:33 Adam It's got to be Germany or Florida.

44:34 Nicholas Gonzalez Florida sounds like the one to go off your queue.

44:37 Adam I'm going Germany with the decorating part.

44:40 Drew Yeah, you've done well with the contrarian point of view lately.

44:43 Adam Thank you. But I disagree. Eric?

44:46 Caller Yeah.

44:47 Adam Is it Germany or Florida?

44:49 Caller Adam, you got it.

44:50 Drew Uh-huh. See?

44:52 Adam Yeah!

44:55 Yeah!

44:58 Adam Yeah. Called Germany or Florida. Thank you, Eric.

45:00 Drew It's right there in the name.

45:01 Caller By the way, Nicholas, good job in Law and Order.

45:06 Nicholas Gonzalez Oh, thank you very much.

45:07 Adam Special victim shooting.

45:08 Nicholas Gonzalez They had the most fun out of anything I've been doing on doing that show.

45:11 Adam Oh, really?

45:11 Nicholas Gonzalez That's been incredible. Shooting in New York, on the streets of New York.

45:14 Adam It's like you're making a movie, right?

45:15 Nicholas Gonzalez It's incredible, yeah. I mean, and they also always reshoot, so I get to go back again to New York.

45:20 Adam Picking stuff up, getting paid, first-class airfare.

45:23 Nicholas Gonzalez All my miles are going up.

45:25 Adam I was watching The Six Million Dollar Man the other night, and I thought, awesome and everything, but what a turd, and I thought, boy, this is an hour-long prime time network drama, essentially, from 1978. You watch it and you realize, first off, budget like almost zero, like things that were supposed to be army helicopters were clearly news helicopters, whether it's an army on the side of it. Since one is turquoise and yellow, the color of the army, but just nothing and no bad acting. The big thing, they'd roll a jeep over or something like that, and there was really nothing in the way of special effects or anything, and the story was slow and planning and it looked bad and it wasn't lit right and everything, and I start thinking about these shows, Law and Order, The Shield, The 24th, some movies they're making.

46:22 Nicholas Gonzalez The budgets are crazy and then also the guest cast now are like some of the incredible actors you see in film are returning to TV.

46:28 Adam Yeah. Do you have any idea by the way what the budget is for one of these?

46:34 Nicholas Gonzalez I used to do a show called Resurrection Boulevard on Showtime, and we had a pretty conservative budget.

46:39 Adam It was a boxing show.

46:40 Nicholas Gonzalez Exactly. We had like 1.1 million per episode, which was great for us in being on Showtime, but this is network. I got to think it's going to be so much bigger than that.

46:49 Adam Yeah. I don't know.

46:50 Nicholas Gonzalez I couldn't even venture to say.

46:51 Adam I mean, it's got to be the budget of a, well, first off, seems like the equivalent to shooting an hour's worth of movie. I mean, if you shoot an hour's worth of 24 or SVU or something like that, it's just got to be half of what a two-hour movie would be, or two-thirds of what a 90-minute would be. All right. Millions. Wow.

47:14 Nicholas Gonzalez That's like two or three million.

47:15 Adam Yeah. I don't know how that thing works.

47:17 Nicholas Gonzalez They don't pay a lot.

47:18 Adam Yeah. I know. It's all going to the cinematographer and the guest actors.

47:23 Nicholas Gonzalez All right.

47:23 Adam Let's take a break. I'm taking a break here, buddy. Nicholas Gonzalez here tonight from The OC. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

47:35 Drew All right, guys.

47:35 Nicholas Gonzalez Here's the deal.

47:37 You're looking to hook up?

47:38 Nicholas Gonzalez Sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

47:40 Drew One call is all you need to make. Call the Dateline.

47:42 877-889-DATE.

47:45 Drew Call the Dateline.

48:15 Adam Yeah, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from The OC. Thursday night, it's 8 o'clock, Fox, Drew, feeling better?

48:27 Drew Feeling good, I just got a horrible cough.

48:29 Adam Drew's got a cough. And let's talk to Nick, who's an Iraqi vet, now has trouble talking to girls. Let's talk to Nick. Nick?

48:39 Hey, how you doing?

48:40 Adam Good, so you're back from Iraq?

48:44 Caller Yeah, I just got back in March, and it was quite a year.

48:47 Adam How long were you there for a year?

48:49 Caller Yeah, I was there for a year. I actually went to Iraq when we first invaded. I was with the 4th Infantry Division, based out of Fort Hood, Texas, and I just got out of the Army in August.

49:00 Adam Is everyone, I don't know the schedule, and I guess it varies, like in Vietnam, people would do a tour, a one-year tour, and then they're able to go home, I guess. Is that how it works in Iraq?

49:12 Caller Not really. I mean, it's pretty much, it's like the division or whoever, the higher-ups have a timetable for each battalion for however long, and some people are actually staying out there. I know my best friend is out there right now, and he's going to be staying about 18 months.

49:34 Adam They've had spectacular recent footage of these car bombs going on. I thought I'd see them. First off, they're horrifying for some reason because everyone's caught off-guard, and they're standing around, all of a sudden, these horrific explosions. For some reason, there's been footage of them the last few weeks or last few days. They never seem to have car bomb footage, but for some reason, cameras have been rolling. I was just thinking to myself yesterday, I would be a nervous wreck.

50:02 Drew All the time.

50:03 Adam Because anytime there's an automobile around me, parked, manned, unmanned.

50:07 Drew Even when you're driving along, they would pull up alongside.

50:09 Adam Driving along, the guy sitting next to me, of course. By the way, over there, there ain't...

50:15 Drew They profile.

50:16 Adam They profile. No, but I'm saying you're sitting next to every guy next to you. It's a swarthy guy wearing something on his head with brown eyes and a beard.

50:23 Drew The point is, he's profiling you, he's looking for you.

50:25 Adam He's looking for you, and they do profile. And yeah, you're not going to pull up next to West Sven, you know, the long haired Swede. I would just be walking, I'd be freaked out the entire time.

50:36 No, not all right.

50:37 Adam Yeah, that's what you hear a lot. If you know what I would do, I would probably just freak out and blow myself up. Preemptive strike. You'll never get me. I'll get myself. I'll do it myself. All right, so now you're back.

50:48 Caller I'm back. And one thing, you know, I think it's really important for people, despite their views on the war, to really support our troops. It really helps our morale out there.

50:59 Drew Do you feel you're not getting support or?

51:02 Caller Well, yeah, any support. I mean, I know there's like really like a split view on this war, and I could understand both sides, honestly. Yeah. However, no matter what the views are, I believe it's extremely important to appreciate those out there in the desert and under one hundred and thirty degree heat in the dead summer to and and let them know that you appreciate everything they're doing. It really helps them out and gives them a sense of purpose.

51:31 Adam Ironically, the Michael Moores of the world and Barbara Streisand and whoever else, Alec Baldwin types of the world are the ones who say out of one side of mouth, look, we're trying to protect the troops.

51:47 Caller Yeah.

51:47 Adam But the reality is, is I think they are serving to demoralize them to some, and unless you can bring them back, maybe you should put a sock in it until they're done doing whatever inevitably they're going to do. Because I do think these guys who claim to be your best friend and who claim to be worried about you, it's sort of like, look, Michael Moores thing is like, I care about the troops. Bush, he doesn't care who he sends to die over there as long as it's not family members. But ultimately, Moores probably doing more damage since you're already there.

52:16 Caller Right.

52:17 Adam All right.

52:18 Drew So we appreciate it.

52:19 Adam Yeah. What what don't we know about Iraq? What is there may not be an answer to this question, but I mean, what would be surprising to most people here in the states?

52:30 Caller Most surprising? Well, well, I guess the most the best advice I could probably give is not drink the water. Well, there are other water supply out in Iraq because I did that and I paid for that.

52:47 Adam So bad water, but the indigenous.

52:50 Caller Really, really bad water. Like it was horrible because we ran out of the bottled water because that's all we drink. And so I drink, I end up drinking the country's water supply. And I get Shigella. What's that?

53:01 Drew You get Shigella?

53:03 Caller Yeah. Well, I don't know what that is, but no, I got the runs.

53:08 Drew That's what that is.

53:09 Adam OK.

53:09 Caller I got really, no, I got really bad. Like I literally woke up and like and like I had a really embarrassing moment one morning. So.

53:17 Adam All right. Nick, I appreciate you launching in an humiliating story about yourself. But I wasn't talking so much about don't drink the water.

53:25 Drew I just about the experience of the country.

53:28 Adam You know, we look at ourselves an important part of the country and its culture. Don't don't get me wrong. But I'm just saying, if I go out there, let's say, what would I be most surprised at beside the mark you left on your butt?

53:42 Caller Well, first of all, I really do believe that. Well, when I went in there, I believe that, you know, it's going to be like Vietnam. And like I'm going to be in war. It's just going to be like you're on here. You're basically crawling around all the time. It's not really like that. You have to watch your back all the time. Yes. You know, things do happen. You know, I did lose some friends out there and you do see things. However, it's not like, you know, every day is so extreme where you.

54:10 Adam And what do you think ultimately? Do you think there's the ability to have a free election and move toward a democracy? Or does it seem like we're trying to get blood out of a beat?

54:23 Caller OK, I don't I'm not trying to turn this into a media bashing thing. But like I do believe that again, the media has blown that up. See, in Iraq, when we first rolled into Iraq, it was almost like a parade because when we were rolling in, like all the Iraqis were cheering and yelling at us and waving. And it was seriously like we were all lined up on the streets waving.

54:46 Adam Well, if you think about it, I mean, you're looking at this way, I'm putting Nick on hold for a second. You get one, because I'm scared to tell another s-story. You get one car bomber for every 5,000 fans.

55:00 Drew Right.

55:00 Adam It's going to make the news.

55:02 Drew That's right.

55:02 Adam And it's by the way, an unacceptable number. But if you think about it, one guy, one sort of fanatical guy with some C4 and an Impala is, is counts is like 10,000 votes or something. So, oh, there's another car bomber there. Well, obviously, I don't know what the population is, but the amount of car bombers or fanatic, people are fanatics against the United States or whatever, compared to the amount of people, it's got to be a thousand to one.

55:30 Drew Yeah.

55:30 Adam Maybe, maybe more. And we're not, it doesn't feel that way. It feels like, oh, this represents the entire country.

55:37 Drew Right.

55:38 Adam I think we're getting a lot of that via the news.

55:40 Drew So Nick, let's get it back to you. What's going on tonight?

55:43 Caller Well, here's the thing, man. Like every, ever since I was like, I don't know, well, ever, ever, all through my life, I really like have trouble speaking to girls. I mean, this is like, like a really weird thing with me because look, I'm not a bad looking guy and all that. But, you know, like whenever I start talking to girls and like, and especially ones that I'm attracted to, I'll get really tense and really nervous.

56:08 Drew But you understand that is universal. Maybe your expectation is a little skewed. Maybe because you're so confident in other areas, you're shocked that it's sort of, you're beaten down by a mere female. But every male has that or continues to go through that.

56:22 Adam Yeah, that's what Quailoads are for.

56:25 Caller I mean, here's the thing, like most people get nervous because they're not, like I think it's more the uncertainty, they're uncertain of what they think about them. It probably have a lot to do with it. Like, especially since I'm an Iraqi vet, you know, I'm Mr. Stud now. A bunch of girls are just like totally like very flirtatious with me, and I'm not talking about, oh, they're talking to me, therefore they like me. It's more along the lines where they would give me like random like massages, and they would be like hugging me all the time.

56:56 Adam Nick, I got an idea for Nick. You tell them that story about you crap and yourself in Iraq. That's going to elicit a lot of sympathy.

57:04 Drew That and then that whole humor card gets played.

57:08 Nicholas Gonzalez Self-deprecating humor.

57:10 Adam Let's break this down for a second. There's no guy that's not nervous, but he's saying he's even more nervous.

57:17 Drew There is something we've never really talked about, that some guys have problems with boundaries of women, and they get fearful they're getting sucked into something. He doesn't know how to say no, how to stop it, how to make choices. I'm wondering if it's that kind of a thing.

57:32 Adam He couldn't articulate that if it was.

57:34 Drew Well, let me ask him.

57:35 Adam No. Here's the point. I've been talking to him for too long. I'm sure he had all the stupid Iraq questions. Here's the thing. At 23, as a guy, you're supposed to be coming out of this, but you ain't out of it yet.

57:49 Drew But he said he's not uncomfortable, women are not worried about being attractive or being rejected. It's something different for him.

57:54 Adam No, he's attractive is what he's saying. Look, well, first off, women don't judge by the same criteria that we judge by. You being attractive is nice, but it's more your rap and your vibe that they buy into. Yeah. Sorry, Nicholas.

58:11 Caller That's okay.

58:12 Drew So what is it that's making you nervous? Can you articulate it?

58:14 Caller Articulate? Well, I don't know. Now, thinking about it psychologically, again, but into the deep soul thing here, I guess because like, well, back in junior high, I used to get maybe got picked on a lot by both genders, maybe. Maybe that had something to do with it. I don't know. I mean, like I've...

58:34 Drew I think more that whatever it was about your home life or your development that caused you to get picked on, maybe more at the core of this.

58:42 Adam Some guys, look, some people are naturally shy. You have two kids, three kids. Well, one of them is much shyer. The girl is much more extroverted, probably takes after her wife. And you have a son that's much shyer. They grow in the same environment, same genes, same everything.

59:00 Drew That's right.

59:02 Adam That's just some people just are a little more introverted, just like some people are more extroverted.

59:06 Drew Right. That's right.

59:07 Adam So that's number one. Number two, 23-year-old guys, a lot of them are in that boat.

59:13 Drew By the way, he's just trying to get his skills together. You don't have this.

59:16 Adam You got to get your rap on. Here's what you need to do. I think and Nicholas, by the way, is amongst, he's on the hot 25 celebrity bachelors according to Latin people. Is it Latin people?

59:31 Drew Just regular people.

59:31 Nicholas Gonzalez There's people in Espanol. There's people in Espanol.

59:34 Adam Yeah. But the Latins dig him too. The point is his top 50 gardeners on TV of all time, landscape architects. Here's my point. As a guy, you have to get your life together in order to get your wrap together.

59:51 Drew Yeah.

59:51 Adam And it's not, oh, you got to pull up an expensive car, you got to wear flashy jewelry.

59:54 Drew You just got to have a purpose.

59:55 Adam You got to get your confidence.

59:56 Drew Yeah.

59:56 Adam You got to feel like you got a career, not just a job.

59:59 Drew Yeah, but Nick kind of has that from his marine career.

1:00:01 Adam Rick, Nick came back. He's floating a little. He's out of the service. He's discharged. You know, he got a high school degree and he went into the service. Now he needs needs. So here's what you need to do, guys. Focus on your life. Forget about the rap. Forget about the checks. Work on the career. Work at the gym. Work on your social life, your friends. Learn a language. Learn. Have a skill. Be interesting. Have things.

1:00:25 Nicholas Gonzalez The women know and they gravitate towards when a guy's got everything together. They like when a guy is like the where he is, seems like the place to be or is the center of attention. Girls, regardless of if you're famous or you have this military background that people respond to, women really more than anything respond to if they're having fun and you got everything on lock. And when you have everything down, then that's what they like.

1:00:47 Adam They respond to confidence.

1:00:49 Drew You sort of articulated that. Follow me.

1:00:51 Adam That's what they want. That's why the worst thing to say to a chick is like, What do you want to do? What do you want to eat? Exactly. Where do you want to eat? Where do you want to go? What do you want to do? They want to go. Here's their favorite thing is this. I got a place. It's Italian place. It's down in the village. I know the chef. This is great. It's hard to get in. But I know the guy. We're all friends. And that's what we're doing. And let me order for you.

1:01:15 Nicholas Gonzalez Tell them what to wear, what time you're picking them up.

1:01:17 Adam Yeah. And I need oral. Now. Now. Now, Drew, I'm talking to you.

1:01:21 Drew I know you are.

1:01:22 Adam Okay. As long as you know. Jenny, I know what the ladies like. They like giving me oral. That's what they like. That and the Calamari. Forgoing Italian. Jenny.

1:01:36 Caller Hi.

1:01:38 Adam She's just perky.

1:01:39 Drew All right.

1:01:40 Adam What's going on, perky?

1:01:42 Caller I was wondering when I have sex with my boyfriend, I am currently on birth control and sometimes like he likes to have sex without a condom.

1:01:52 Drew Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're on hormonal contraceptions?

1:01:56 Caller Yes, Elise.

1:01:58 Drew And you were using a condom?

1:01:59 Caller Yes.

1:02:00 Drew Okay. You are never going to get pregnant.

1:02:02 Caller I really don't want to get pregnant.

1:02:04 Drew Don't worry. You are not.

1:02:05 Adam It's no S.

1:02:06 Caller Yeah. And so I was wondering if we have sex and he doesn't come in me, but he's not using a condom, is it almost guaranteed that I won't get pregnant? Because I always get really paranoid about getting pregnant.

1:02:17 Drew Whether he does come or doesn't come in you, it's almost guaranteed you're not going to get pregnant. You're on the pill.

1:02:22 Adam But it's an act of violence. You need to know that. It's violent. When he orgasms.

1:02:26 Drew That's equates with a violent act.

1:02:27 Adam Of course.

1:02:28 Drew That's violent.

1:02:30 Caller So, isn't there still 2% though that get pregnant after even a three?

1:02:35 Drew Well, here's the deal. The basic statistics are that it's more like 0.01%. But in teenagers, the number is a little higher. So, and I think that's right. Absolutely. I think that's what it's a function of. But if you're actually fastidious about taking the pill, the chance are really remote. And if he's using a condom most of the time, forget it.

1:02:57 Nicholas Gonzalez You're almost 20. You're not going to be a teenager.

1:03:00 Adam Hey, and Jenny, stop making the guy wear a condom if he's your boyfriend and you're on the pill.

1:03:07 Caller Okay.

1:03:08 Adam All right.

1:03:09 Caller I mean, I like a better without it too, but it's just, I really, really don't want to get pregnant.

1:03:14 Drew You're really, really being very appropriately conscientious and fastidious about that.

1:03:18 Caller Okay, so if I don't take it at exactly the same time every night, it's still effective, right? Like within two or three hours?

1:03:24 Drew It should be, yeah. It should be fine. But you're starting to get six, eight hours differences, then you start to make a difference.

1:03:32 Caller Okay, so you'd say two or three is fine?

1:03:34 Drew Yeah.

1:03:35 Adam All right.

1:03:36 Drew How about the patch? How about other kinds of means of delivery? NuvaRing, other things you can do other than take the patch.

1:03:43 Adam Where do you put that patch? Anywhere? On your side? Oh, you put it on the side?

1:03:49 Drew You can.

1:03:49 Adam No, because you know that would put something on there to aim for, you know.

1:03:53 Drew Where you put it above the coccyx or something?

1:03:55 Adam No, just even on the front, you know, just a little something. Like, you know, on the back is the baseball. That's the baseball that no one has ever, somebody probably thought they had a brilliant idea with dark boards in like 1918. Like, we'll put a baseball game on the floor. Bernie, genius, I tell you, that'll probably be bigger than darts. No one's ever flipped it over. No one's, anyone ever played that baseball game?

1:04:22 Drew And it became a convention. It's part of a dart board.

1:04:24 Adam You got to put it on there. But no one's ever put it on.

1:04:26 Drew How will they know it's a dart board without the baseball on the back?

1:04:28 Adam It's going to add $20 to each. Put it on. And I don't even know if anyone even knows how to do the baseball. Like, what's the home run? Is hitting home plate or the pitchers bound?

1:04:39 Drew I never looked at it. I know it's there. It's there.

1:04:42 Adam I think the problem with dart boards is once you put them on one way, they're kind of like reversible windbreakers that no one ever reverses. Or the hood that unzips from the thing that you never take out. Once it's on, that's it. So on that way, you walk away. And no one ever goes, oh, darts, but not quite in the mood for darts. I'm in the mood to throw a dart, but not for darts. Actually, if I had my druthers, I'd be throwing a dart, but playing baseball. Yeah. Yeah. It's never the same. You want to throw darts. You want to throw it at a dart board.

1:05:13 Drew Put them together.

1:05:14 Adam Darts and baseball.

1:05:14 Drew That's it.

1:05:15 Adam I want, like in Mexico, I think they got like a soccer version of that. Like you turn over, there's a soccer field.

1:05:20 Drew Like in Europe. But in Norway or something.

1:05:24 Adam You think in Europe they have like a soccer field back there?

1:05:26 Nicholas Gonzalez Cricket. Oh.

1:05:27 Drew Cricket.

1:05:29 Adam Well, why not just put basketball while you're back there, too?

1:05:32 Drew Just put football.

1:05:33 Adam All right. No one's ever done it. Do they still do it, you think?

1:05:36 Drew I think.

1:05:37 Adam Is it one of those things like you got to put the parsley by the side of the play?

1:05:39 Drew Absolutely.

1:05:40 Adam All right. All right. Let's keep going here. Yes?

1:05:45 Drew Yep.

1:05:45 Adam Yes. Alexander?

1:05:47 Yes, sir.

1:05:48 Adam You're 18?

1:05:49 Caller Yep.

1:05:50 Adam What's up?

1:05:52 Caller Oh, I actually have a couple of questions. My first one is, I'm engaged, my fiance and I, we've been dating off and on since we were in the eighth grade. We've known each other pretty much our whole lives. We've been sexually active for about three years now. She's on the pill and it's been going real well. But a while back, she just out of nowhere, she wanted me to slap her while we were having sex. So I slapped her and she stopped and she started freaking out on me and crying.

1:06:32 Drew That is a great example of the craziness of those impulses. If you were beaten as a child, it sounds attractive and arousing to you, but when you actually experience it, it evokes all the horrible traumatic feelings. Fantastic.

1:06:45 Adam So when you were having sex with her, it was an act of violence, but when you slapped her, it was a sexual act.

1:06:51 Drew I think I'm doing a math test.

1:06:52 Adam It became sexual at that point.

1:06:54 Drew Well, he didn't ejaculate because she stopped.

1:06:56 Adam It was a sexual act that was going to become sexual? I got to work it out. So that usually pardon the pun smacks of something in the past, Alexander.

1:07:08 Caller Well, it was weird because she started freaking out on me crying saying I couldn't believe you'd ever hit me.

1:07:15 Adam Hold on one second.

1:07:16 Drew A little bogus feeling.

1:07:17 Adam There's a bogus quality.

1:07:18 Drew Yes.

1:07:18 Adam I'm getting a bogus sitting here. He's putting it these crafted, the story nice.

1:07:23 Drew But then he started pushing.

1:07:25 Adam Yeah. Okay. Let's just keep the bogus meter up. There's something bogus Spidey sense tingling in the bogus department. Go ahead, Alexander.

1:07:34 Caller Well, the weird thing is that happened and that was like nine months ago. And all of a sudden, out of the blue, I just got back from vacation. We hadn't seen each other in a couple of weeks. And, you know, we've been going out like Jackrabbits. And tonight we were talking about, you know, just our sex life in general. And she told me she wants me to get like violent again, not like, you know, like punching her, but she wants to be slapped around and on vacation. Pardon?

1:08:04 Adam Where did you go on vacation?

1:08:06 Caller I was in Florida.

1:08:07 Adam Nice. Two weeks.

1:08:09 Caller Yeah.

1:08:10 Adam Well, your family must love you.

1:08:14 Caller They do.

1:08:15 Adam All right. And so, OK, do you know that is she ever been? Is there it was her dad ever violent with her?

1:08:22 Caller No, not really. The only thing I can think of is she was brought up like Catholic in a very strict Catholic home, very strong moral sense there, forced to hold pre-marital sex thing. You know, I mean, obviously, I think that's one of her.

1:08:39 Adam Maybe she wants to be punished a little.

1:08:41 Drew Just as the aggression, the violence and all attracts and overwhelms, evokes all kinds of mixed feelings. So it's probably not a great road to go down with her.

1:08:52 Adam Well, a couple of things. First off, these things are amongst sane people are supposed to be indicators. This isn't a fire coming out of the engine compartment, but this is a light blinking on the dash. You don't have to pull over and get a fire extinguisher. You drive home, but check, pop the hood. Check it out. Something's going on. This is a little warning indicator.

1:09:15 Drew By the way, when the lights are on, that's not the time to rev the engine and start speeding. Slow it down.

1:09:21 Adam That's right.

1:09:22 Drew Slow it down.

1:09:23 Adam So check into that warning light. By the way, you're still test driving the car. You've not bought the car yet. You want to look into what that warning light indicator is before you buy the car, meaning get married.

1:09:36 Drew Well, they're engaged at 18.

1:09:37 Adam Engaged at 18, which is another sign, another warning light. It's a warning light.

1:09:43 Drew Yeah, another one.

1:09:43 Adam Yeah.

1:09:45 Drew Why so might be hurried to get engaged? 18.

1:09:47 Adam I don't know. So here's what this warning light says to me. Slow it down.

1:09:52 Drew Don't go down that path of attraction and arousal that she has. That's where all the trauma stuff is. Yeah.

1:09:57 Adam And you will. And by the way, you will lose control of this thing soon because it can go unchecked.

1:10:02 Drew The scary part, if he doesn't go down, though, she might need a little chaos to inject into things and start cheating. That kind of stuff. Check the hood.

1:10:10 Adam Check.

1:10:10 Drew Pop the hood.

1:10:11 Adam Kick them tires.

1:10:11 Drew Yeah.

1:10:12 Adam All right. Let's take a break. Were we talking about cars or not? I got lost at a certain point. Cars. It wasn't an analogy.

1:10:21 Drew No, cars. Oh, okay.

1:10:24 Adam All right. Chris, were we just using that as a metaphor for his relationship or were we actually talking about cars?

1:10:32 Nicholas Gonzalez I think it was a metaphor.

1:10:34 Drew Really? How about the violence and what the violent act is versus sexual act?

1:10:37 Adam That was definitely car talk. Okay. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from the OC and also Law and Order Special Victims Unit. We'll take ourselves a quick break. Be right back after this. Hell yeah, it's Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from The OC. Hello, everybody. And also Law and Order Special Victims Unit. Drew is eating himself some honey roasted macadamia nuts.

1:11:31 Drew Can't stop.

1:11:31 Adam Macadamia nuts are awesome. And, you know, the guy figured we should honey roast the macadamia nuts, got to be the same guy figured we should deep fry snickers bar.

1:11:40 Drew Yeah.

1:11:41 Adam Like this isn't bad for you enough. It's not sweet enough. It's not good enough. We could make it better. Why don't you know they should do it?

1:11:47 Drew They had to do that.

1:11:48 Adam They had to do that. You know what they had to do in a deep day. They had to honey roast it and then roll it like cocaine and then chocolate. Yeah. And then and then Jimmy's. Yeah. Whoever, by the way, the man who invented the honey roasting, I want to talk to him. I like some sort of award given. Maybe it's posthumously, possibly, you know, Bob.

1:12:07 Drew But just take a beat, just take a beat and acknowledge him.

1:12:09 Adam I'm taking a beat right now. And whose ever idea, whoever had the idea of, you know, rolling stuff in honey and then roasting it again. That's just a great idea.

1:12:17 Drew Thank you.

1:12:18 Adam Great. I'll tell you what. What happens to a nut when you roast it? I'll tell you. I ate a raw almond today. It tasted like I was picking corn out of Duke.

1:12:28 Drew Right.

1:12:28 Adam Like is it like nothing?

1:12:29 Drew Chewable.

1:12:30 Adam Just did. Just it was just cut. Then it was like biting a piece of chalk off.

1:12:34 Drew Yeah.

1:12:34 Adam The guy figured the first guy to fire up that oven and toss some nuts in there.

1:12:39 Drew Another guy would like to stop and acknowledge tonight. Yeah.

1:12:41 Adam Give him a shout out too.

1:12:43 Nicholas Gonzalez Well, the guy that made pistachios pink.

1:12:45 Adam That was a weird one.

1:12:46 Drew Yeah.

1:12:46 Adam And you know what was weird too is you couldn't find a pistachio that wasn't painted pink. And now you can't find one that's painted pink. And somebody said like, look, we're never, you know, maybe it was one of these things like, look, we'll take these lobsters and we'll feed them to the, we'll feed them to the slaves and we'll use them as cattle food. You know, like maybe this is one of those things where, you know, you hear these stories where 150 years ago lobster, which is so much, you know, was just a feed for pets and, you know, slaves and you know what I mean? There was nothing was a delicacy or if it was, it wasn't this. Now it's, you know, 20 bucks a pound. Maybe it was the same thing. Like maybe no one would eat these pistachios.

1:13:27 Drew They'd make them pink to make them more appealing.

1:13:29 Adam I don't know who figured this out.

1:13:30 Nicholas Gonzalez I didn't know about the lobster and to think that people are complaining about oppression all those years ago and they got to eat lobster.

1:13:35 Adam Yeah. Listen, you guys were this close to Surf and Turf. Give me a break. So you're chained to the table.

1:13:40 Nicholas Gonzalez They got the expensive side of the Surf and Turf.

1:13:42 Adam That's right. That's right. Come on. Yeah. We're eating filet. We're eating T-bone. So you're eating the lobster. Yeah. You grew up on beans. That's right. I had it hard. Nicholas is a Mexican. He grew up eating beans and churros and drinking that horchata. I was like, whenever a culture tries to talk me into their soft drink, I'm like, how about a Coke? This one is rice based. Yeah.

1:14:10 Nicholas Gonzalez It's running through donkey testicles.

1:14:12 Adam It's amazing. The worst we start getting in the Middle East. It is yogurt. We take yogurt. We take vinegar, salt and lemon and we make it. It's very good milk and we leave it in the sun. Yeah. It's like, first off, you know the people tell you the stuff with all the crap, the five crappy ingredients and then tell you have to try it? This is a stew. This stew has gizzard, tripe, eyeball and a floater of what came out of that guy in Iraq.

1:14:45 Nicholas Gonzalez Well, now you're talking about menudo. I grew up on that stuff.

1:14:48 Adam You got to try it. It's like, look, if the two ugliest people I knew have a kid, do you want me to date them like sight unseen? Like, no, I know what's going on here. I don't need to try it. Now, here's the same thing that the Middle East, they have horrible, horrible drinks and here's all I'm saying. We'll handle the soft drinks. We got 150. We got Mellow Yellow, we got Mr. Pibb, we got Mountain Dew, we got 30 different kinds of the same thing. Mug Root Beer, Big Red. You can get Royal Crowns, Cola, you can get Pepsi. Dr. B's. We got it all. We got it all. We got the grape, we got the orange, we got it. No, don't worry about it. You guys start focusing on other things, things that we might ingest, by the way. Shwarma. Yeah, work on another kebab. Yeah, we're going to kebab combination. You know, this time, instead of beef, onion, bell pepper, beef, you go beef, onion, beef, bell pepper, onion, bell pepper. Well, just screw with the combination. We'll work on that. Don't worry about the drinks. We got those hands down. And I want to put the same thing out for the desserts. You guys with your Mexicans, with the flan and the crazy stuff shaped like a cactus, and the Koreans, and the Japanese, with the tea based ice cream.

1:16:03 Nicholas Gonzalez Mochi Rice Balls.

1:16:04 Adam We got it. We got your apple pie, ala mode.

1:16:07 Drew Well, and the French credit, though.

1:16:08 Adam We got your cobbler. Let France handle this. Crème brûlée. But here's how we have to treat. We have to treat like the dirty dozen. Like you got the knife specialist. You got the demolition guy. You got the ballistics guy. You got the face man. That's me. The face man.

1:16:24 Drew Cash register.

1:16:25 Adam You got the cash register right here. No, but everyone's got their own specialty. And now you have a fighting force to be reckoned with.

1:16:30 Drew The world cooking community.

1:16:31 Adam Yeah. Otherwise you got every guy. Imagine if the computer guy was trying to throw the knife. That would be the equivalent to letting the Japanese do the dessert.

1:16:39 Drew And just so we don't date ourselves too horribly, let's refer to Ocean's Eleven. Yeah, Dirty Dozen. Yeah, Dirty Dozen. And what the hell are you talking about?

1:16:45 Adam OK. Ocean's Eleven. Not everyone is a computer guy. Not everyone is a master of disguise.

1:16:50 Drew Everyone has a specialty.

1:16:51 Adam You can't be a master. You guys work on the kebabs. We'll do the dessert and the soft drinks. All right. Mexicans, you guys clean up. There's a mess. All right. True. That was horrible. Let's keep moving now. Mackenzie.

1:17:05 Caller Yes.

1:17:05 Adam You're 18.

1:17:07 Caller Yes, I am.

1:17:08 Adam What's happening?

1:17:11 Well, I just found out I've been dating my boyfriend for about a year. I just found out he had genital herpes. So I'm pretty sure I have it too. And I just feel like my life hit the hugest rock ever.

1:17:26 Drew All right. Now, how do you know? He's been withholding this from you or did he just find out he has it too?

1:17:31 He just found out he had it too.

1:17:32 Drew And how did he find that out?

1:17:37 After we had been, we had messed around the night before and the next day he called me and he said, Mackenzie, I need to ask you something. Have you cheated on me? And I was like, of course not, because we're both pretty monogamous.

1:17:53 Adam Yeah, no, you got to lie.

1:17:54 Drew Pretty monogamous.

1:17:56 Caller Pretty monogamous, that's right.

1:17:57 Well, pretty monogamous.

1:18:01 Drew Sort of pregnant.

1:18:03 Adam Yeah.

1:18:03 Drew Near collision.

1:18:05 But I can't even think straight. I don't know what...

1:18:08 Drew Well, no, wait. Let's get back to whether... I've got to really establish here whether he actually has this. How did he suddenly come to...

1:18:15 Adam Quiet.

1:18:16 He already found... Like, he went to the doctor. He went on Friday.

1:18:20 Drew Why? Why did he go?

1:18:21 Because he had... He had a little rash on his penis and he's like... Him and I are both like the cleanest freaks ever and...

1:18:33 Drew Had he ever had that rash before?

1:18:35 No.

1:18:36 Drew Had you had any cold sores in your mouth? Anything like that?

1:18:39 No.

1:18:40 Drew Have you ever had cold sores in your mouth?

1:18:42 No.

1:18:43 Adam All right, hold on. Let me talk to the jury here for a second. What about the chances of this guy contracting herpes or it lying dormant for a year before he met?

1:18:56 Drew He didn't notice it or something or sort of dismissed it or was in denial about it, then it recurred. That's possible.

1:19:00 Adam Usually when it kicks in, it kicks in big the first time.

1:19:03 Drew The first time is usually the intense one and it can also occur from oral transmission. She had a cold sore or something, didn't pay attention to it.

1:19:10 Nicholas Gonzalez But it doesn't pop up the next day. It's something that...

1:19:12 Drew Sometimes it does come rather quickly. But again, she usually it is within two weeks. And again, she may have had the cold sore a couple weeks ago, didn't think about it.

1:19:20 Adam So, Mackenzie, you don't think he was cheating or withholding information?

1:19:25 You know, we discussed it and he is like ridiculously honest with me.

1:19:31 Drew It's an interesting strategy, though, to sort of initially come on to her and say, were you cheating?

1:19:36 Adam No, that's mine. That's what I do.

1:19:38 Drew That's what you do when you got a disease? Yeah. I'll accuse your girlfriend of cheating?

1:19:42 Adam Yeah.

1:19:43 Drew Your wife?

1:19:44 Adam I'll do that. I'll go like a hooker's pregnant and it's your baby. That's it.

1:19:50 Drew She'll be like, what?

1:19:51 Adam I don't even have a penis. Interesting. You got rid of your penis. Now, where is it?

1:19:56 Nicholas Gonzalez It's the same thing with farting.

1:19:57 Adam Yeah. It's just the two of us. I could still talk her into it. Yeah.

1:20:01 Nicholas Gonzalez Then she may think she actually did.

1:20:03 Drew Nicholas is somebody we could hang with. He immediately goes to the glass, humor the glass.

1:20:06 Nicholas Gonzalez You farted, didn't you?

1:20:07 Adam That means you're a manipulator when there's just you in another person room, you break away and you can eventually convince them that it was them.

1:20:14 Drew Yeah.

1:20:15 Nicholas Gonzalez And get them to apologize.

1:20:16 Drew That's good. That's an art.

1:20:17 Nicholas Gonzalez While you slowly squeeze out another one.

1:20:18 Adam That's right.

1:20:19 Drew Nicholas. Wow.

1:20:21 Adam He was raised on beans. You heard him. McKenzie?

1:20:24 Caller Yeah.

1:20:25 Nicholas Gonzalez All right.

1:20:26 Drew So your thesis was on Ulysses, right?

1:20:30 Nicholas Gonzalez Yeah.

1:20:31 Drew Okay.

1:20:32 Adam He's a great movie. So you don't think he's lying?

1:20:36 No, I really don't.

1:20:37 Adam All right.

1:20:38 Drew How did the doctor make the diagnosis? Just by looking?

1:20:41 Well, he looked okay. There was a disgusting rash. He went to the doctors on the Friday. And then they told him, I guess he told me, like, that they told him the doctor, the whoever came out and told him that looked like it. But they would run some tests. And he didn't tell me at all during the weekend because he didn't want to upset me.

1:21:00 Drew And then what was the test they did? You know, just I don't know.

1:21:04 I probably blood test, whatever test.

1:21:06 Drew Blood tests are pretty much worthless.

1:21:08 Caller So whatever test they did, they cultured it, you know?

1:21:12 Drew They do cultured it. They cultured it. Okay, well, that's it. That's the definitive test.

1:21:16 Adam All right, so now you're worried you have it or going to get it.

1:21:20 I know I have it. I mean, I have it.

1:21:22 Drew It's a pretty good bet.

1:21:23 How do you know? I've been sleeping with him all this time.

1:21:26 Drew Pretty good bet, Mackenzie. I think that's a wise way to think about it.

1:21:28 Adam But you haven't had a breakout.

1:21:30 No, not yet.

1:21:31 Drew Women sometimes will have a outbreak, think it's a yeast infection or just a painful period, sort of miss it. All right.

1:21:36 Adam So what's her next move?

1:21:39 Drew Get a pelvic exam because you're at a slightly increased risk of cervical cancer, perhaps. And just make sure if you have sex in the future, the guy wears a condom.

1:21:47 Caller That's it.

1:21:48 But I'm just freaking out. I can't even think. I can't even sleep. I haven't even been able to sleep in three days. I don't know, like, I shared drinks with my friends. Like, my family is very, like, loving, and we all kiss each other on the lips, and we're all just a very close family.

1:22:08 Drew Mackenzie, you don't understand this disease, do you?

1:22:12 No, not at all.

1:22:12 Adam She has genital herpes?

1:22:14 Drew You have genitalia, right?

1:22:15 Genitalia, yeah.

1:22:17 Drew You're not going to pass it if you don't have sex with someone.

1:22:19 Adam Unless you're 69 and you're dead.

1:22:21 Drew Yeah.

1:22:21 Adam And I can't judge because there's certain cultures where that...

1:22:25 Drew That's okay.

1:22:25 Adam And there's no judging because it's a different culture. How dare you?

1:22:28 Drew How dare you be so honest?

1:22:29 Adam You cannot judge. But Mackenzie, you're not going to give your dad herpes.

1:22:33 No, I know, but you can't...

1:22:35 Adam That will be good for a colossal time out, though. That would be like a huge grounding. You think borrowing a car without asking is good for a grounding. Imagine giving dad herpes, genital herpes. You're grounded until at least your second year medical school. You'll never leave this house. All right, Mackenzie's freaking out.

1:22:53 Drew I know.

1:22:53 Adam Mackenzie needs to chill out. Listen, many, many, many people on this planet have herpes.

1:22:59 Drew It's a common thing, Mackenzie. It's a common dismal.

1:23:01 Adam Relax. You're a smart person.

1:23:03 What? They were talking about it being like if you use the same towel and if you use the same soap and everything.

1:23:11 Adam If you use it like a belt underneath you.

1:23:14 Drew Yeah, if it's a wet towel and you've been sort of wiping down your genitalia and then somebody immediately wipes their genitalia, yeah, but that's not how it's transferred.

1:23:23 Adam All right, so don't get weird on that.

1:23:24 Drew Yeah. Listen, it's a common thing. Just wear condoms fastidiously. That's all you got to do.

1:23:30 Adam Yeah. Family members are just going to put condoms on. That's how.

1:23:33 Drew Or dental dams whenever you can.

1:23:35 Adam Dental dams.

1:23:36 Nicholas Gonzalez Kiss your mom with a dental dam.

1:23:37 Adam Yeah. All right. Use a condom with dad, then dental dam with mom.

1:23:40 Drew I mean, how do you counsel an 18-year-old who's convinced that her life is over? It's not.

1:23:46 Adam It's difficult and there's really nothing other than my chill pill. You got to take a chill pill. Relax.

1:23:53 Drew There's nothing wrong. But Kenzie feels, I think it's felt like she felt tainted.

1:23:56 Adam But you have a doctor telling you that this is okay. It's a common thing and you're not going to pass it to your grandmother.

1:24:03 Drew You're not going to get harmed by this. You may not even pass it to future sexual partners. You need to be honest about it. You need to work on it fastidiously. This feels like much more than it actually is. Our culture has made it a big deal. It's just like the warts, which you certainly also have, and the other STDs that young sexually active people get.

1:24:22 Adam All right. Nicholas Gonzalez is here tonight from the OC. Thursday Nights on Fox, 8 o'clock. Also, Law and Order's SUV, Special Victims Unit. We'll take a quick break. Be right back after this. Yeah, everybody, rock on, party down. It's a love line, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Nicholas Gonzalez here tonight from Law and Order, SMU, Southern Methodist University, Special Victims Unit, and also, more importantly, the OC on Fox, 8 o'clock Thursday nights. Let me just say this. We were talking phone talk, a little tech talk during the break. Drew, I've had a, believe me, first off, you're all very lucky that Nicholas showed up tonight, or I would have launched into at least a half hour on how much the power's been off of my goddamn house. It was off for 13 hours today, it's been off all. But the point is, you know the other beauty of living a house and having no power is the mother-effing cell phone doesn't work at my house.

1:26:03 Drew Oh, just down there it doesn't.

1:26:04 Adam Because I'm up in the hill. And so now the power's out, your cell phone doesn't work and you see that the neighbor's house is going down the street and the torrential floods and you think, I got to get back to the apartment in North Hollywood. Let's face it.

1:26:19 Nicholas Gonzalez That's my place, guys.

1:26:20 Adam Roof didn't leak, cell phone worked, power on all the time.

1:26:24 Drew A blessing of belongings.

1:26:25 Adam It really was.

1:26:26 Drew Ownership.

1:26:26 Adam It really is. It really is. You guys who have nothing, thank your lucky stars. It's such a burden for those of us who are literally millionaires.

1:26:35 Nicholas Gonzalez Wired in worldly possession.

1:26:37 Adam It's tough. It's tough. It is. All right. And now, give this speech to Nicholas. You see the cell phone here? I put the velcro on the back there and I hit it. I hit it with some like emery cloth.

1:26:50 Drew Yeah, I can see you cleaned it out.

1:26:51 Adam No, I combed it. Yeah.

1:26:53 Drew It looks like the last time I looked at this. Look, he puts he puts a velcro, glues velcro to the back to his cell phone because he only wears pajamas and sweats. And these things are made out of like, you know, and titanium or something slip out of everything.

1:27:05 Adam It's like greased soap.

1:27:06 Drew Now, that's not the payoff. No.

1:27:08 Adam Also, I have a cloth interior in my car and I literally stick it to the passenger seat.

1:27:13 Drew As opposed to it slipping into that sliding gutter that goes to hell. Where does it go? It goes to purgatory.

1:27:19 Nicholas Gonzalez No leather seats.

1:27:21 Adam Well, now I know. I know you're judging, but he's a little bit of a millionaire.

1:27:26 Caller He can't be bothered with leather.

1:27:28 Drew That's for his Aston Martin. That has the leather.

1:27:31 Adam That does have the leather. Okay, go ahead.

1:27:33 Drew You think I'm kidding?

1:27:34 Nicholas Gonzalez I don't at all.

1:27:36 Drew The last time I looked at the actual velcro, I couldn't decide whether he'd used it to brush a cat or just all pubes or just solid pubic hair. And it's just to just keep it's a pubic.

1:27:48 Adam Magnum.

1:27:49 Drew You look at him. Look at it. Look at it. Take your hat off.

1:27:51 Nicholas Gonzalez He wears sweatpants. Look at the clothes.

1:27:53 Adam I didn't know my hat was on.

1:27:54 Drew Yeah. Pubes up there.

1:27:56 Adam I got pubes on the head.

1:27:57 Drew I got pubes on the ass. On the back. Pubes. It's all pubes. And he scratches himself with this thing and just just leaks.

1:28:03 Adam Well, I use it to hold to myself by static electricity. I used to. And now, oh, grew. Stuck to my sweater, everybody.

1:28:10 Drew That's nice.

1:28:11 Adam Yeah. Like Laverne.

1:28:12 Nicholas Gonzalez Doesn't everybody do this?

1:28:14 Adam I know what else I did. I scuffed the hell out of it because I thought, what the hell do I care what it looks like? And you're always doing this with yourself when you're putting it up, you're tucking it under your shoulder, you're wearing a wind. You're wearing a windbreaker now, Nicholas. You take a regular phone with the brush titanium and it goes flying. It's hard to hold it. Scuff it up.

1:28:29 Drew That's what you were talking about. The Bluetooth is a major advance.

1:28:32 Adam And here's the thing. It's not like it's not like your car. You're not going to sell your cell phone. You're going to lose it, you're going to break it, or you're just going to throw it away in a couple of years and get better technology. Scuff it up. Plus you look like a badass. People see it's like, wow, look at that phone. So it's like pulled in a full-dressed hog. Wow. Don't mess with that dude. You want to know how bad that dude is? His cell phone is messed up. I mean, this is a badass dude. Yeah.

1:28:56 Nicholas Gonzalez I'm scuffing mine right now.

1:28:58 Adam Please. All right. Let's rock here.

1:29:00 Drew Here we go.

1:29:01 Adam I feel bad for these two people who have been on for an unfair amount of time. Crystal?

1:29:07 Yeah.

1:29:08 Adam You're 20?

1:29:09 Caller Yes.

1:29:09 Adam On hold for 109 minutes.

1:29:13 Caller Well, yeah. You sit here and watch on TV too while you wait.

1:29:16 Adam Yeah. Thanks, baby. What's up? Good listen to the show. What's going on?

1:29:21 Caller Well, last year, I was my first year of college and everything, right? I finally got out of the house and be able to do what I want. Of course, I went haywire and went crazy at house parties and all. Well, bad things started happening. Like I would meet guys and my friends will all sit there saying, I'm terrified of guys. I don't like being alone with them. They're like, okay, don't worry. Well, we'll watch your back and all this and all that.

1:29:44 Drew Well, why are you terrified of guys?

1:29:49 Caller I don't know. It's just something about them.

1:29:50 Caller I'm like, I...

1:29:52 Adam All right. Well, we're suspicious, but keep going.

1:29:56 Caller Well, I could like date back to when I was in freshman year of high school.

1:30:00 Drew And what happened?

1:30:01 Caller I met a guy and he forced me to give him a blowjob and give him a handjob. And then my parents came home and I showed them out of the house.

1:30:11 Adam Where did you meet him?

1:30:12 Caller I met him through a friend.

1:30:14 Adam By the way, force for BJ and handjob?

1:30:17 Caller Yeah.

1:30:17 Drew You both?

1:30:18 Caller Yeah. I didn't do anything. I just said that. I was like, no.

1:30:23 Adam OK.

1:30:24 Drew So you didn't do it.

1:30:26 Adam You weren't ready to do it.

1:30:27 Drew You just sort of traumatized.

1:30:30 Adam Oh, you met the guy. You brought him in and you're scared, but you didn't do anything.

1:30:33 Nicholas Gonzalez Almost a violent crime. Yeah.

1:30:35 Adam Almost.

1:30:35 Caller I was just being naked, though. I was just saying, like, I know, because I'm only like, what, fourteen at the time.

1:30:41 Drew OK. All right. Be a little rough.

1:30:42 Nicholas Gonzalez All right. Go ahead.

1:30:43 Caller I'm just a little girl. Then I'm just like, what the hell's going on?

1:30:45 Drew OK. Got it. OK.

1:30:47 Caller What else? I believe, like, that experience ventured into me. OK.

1:30:52 Adam Nothing before that?

1:30:54 Caller Nothing before that.

1:30:55 Adam Nothing at home?

1:30:56 Caller No.

1:30:57 Drew OK.

1:30:57 Caller All right.

1:30:58 Drew And what happened?

1:30:58 Caller Well, at parties and stuff, of course, I would get inebriated or close to it. I only got inebriated about three times, but I would meet guys and they'll follow me to my dorm, make sure I get to my dorm, OK? And then all of a sudden they'll want to start playing.

1:31:11 Drew I'm a rapist. They're not following you to your dorm to make sure you get there OK, Crystal. They need a primer on how men think.

1:31:20 Adam Yeah.

1:31:20 Drew So you can understand what they're doing.

1:31:22 Adam So they get to the dorm and then they do what?

1:31:26 Caller No. I'll be like, it was a group of friends that want to walk back to my dorm. Then since the group I'm with, they live on my floor. They would make me walk me to my room and then the guys would say, okay, I got it. I just sit there like, no, because by this time my roommate. Hold on.

1:31:43 Adam 110 minutes. Not long enough.

1:31:45 Drew I'm going to go back home.

1:31:46 Adam Put you back on hold.

1:31:47 Drew All right.

1:31:48 Adam So Crystal, what happened? Come on. What's going on?

1:31:51 Caller Well, I got raped and all by guys plenty of times, probably five times or more.

1:31:57 Adam Now, you call it rape. Would they do they think they raped you?

1:32:03 Caller I don't know.

1:32:05 Drew They just think they're making out with somebody when they were loaded. Just hooking up.

1:32:08 Adam Well, why? Yeah. Why do you call it raped if you walked back and let the guys in and had sex with them? Did they threaten you?

1:32:16 Caller I didn't. I didn't want it. They would force me or would they force you?

1:32:20 Drew How would they do it?

1:32:21 Caller They would pin me down in the bed or they'll be like, OK, let's play a game. And I said, I'm like, no, they're like, oh, come on. I'll just sit there and nag me until I say, OK, fine, or I give in.

1:32:31 Drew But OK, well, you're right that they shouldn't do that. But I'm not sure nagging until capitulation is a form of rape.

1:32:37 Adam It's a violent, violent, nagging, sexual crimes.

1:32:40 Drew You should mention that to your wife next time. She nags you.

1:32:42 Adam Yeah, it's more of a hassle. But she calls it a hassle. Hey, Crystal, yeah, something's going on with you.

1:32:50 Drew You got it. You've got it.

1:32:51 Adam And by the way, when they're raping you, don't you yell out for your roommates or dorm mates or anything?

1:32:56 Caller Oh, they're not there. Like my roommate last year.

1:32:59 Drew Yeah, but you're in a dorm. Why don't you scream for help?

1:33:02 Caller Everybody's either out at still partying.

1:33:05 Drew Why don't you scream for help?

1:33:06 Adam Everybody. You go out, you go drinking, you go to the parties, you come back. It's like a horror movie, just crickets. Thank you. Crystal, something's going on with you.

1:33:16 Drew All right, here's the deal, though. In a big way. Whether or not there is something, some distortion you have here or you were a victim of a crime, you need counseling about these issues. You're in college, they've got very developmental health services.

1:33:28 Adam And if you think you're, if you're legitimately raped, and I shouldn't say legitimately, but if you're raped, report it.

1:33:33 Drew And just from the standpoint of you having these experiences where you feel out of control with men and then experience them as rapes and you repeatedly, you know, you're compulsively reenacting these things, you've got to get help immediately.

1:33:44 Adam Something's going on.

1:33:45 Drew Immediately, Crystal.

1:33:46 Adam OK, let's take a break. We'll be right back. Yep, well, that's the show, Nicholas. God bless you for coming in.

1:34:31 Nicholas Gonzalez Thank you very much. I had a great time.

1:34:32 Adam Good guy. Quiet, confident, certain swagger to him.

1:34:38 Nicholas Gonzalez I was prancing about the studio, wasn't I?

1:34:40 Adam It was more of a man's...

1:34:41 Drew This is a swagger.

1:34:44 Adam He's on the OC on Fox Thursday nights at eight o'clock and also Law and Order Special Victims Unit.

1:34:52 Nicholas Gonzalez Sex crimes.

1:34:53 Adam NBC, everybody. Thanks a lot, Nicholas. Appreciate it. Continued success. And until next time, this Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew is saying mahalo.

1:35:02 Caller I was like, no. I just sit there like, no.

1:35:08 Caller This has been Loveline.

1:35:12 Adam The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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