Episode 1000633864606

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1:24 Adam Drew likes the new opening to the show. Yeah, that's a bad sign, Anderson. That's a very bad sign.

1:30 Drew Yes, I can pick losers like no one else.

1:33 Adam Yeah, that's really, that's like my dad saying, nice car. That means run. It's going to explode. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, Taking Back Sunday, the band in studio tonight. Adam and Mark are in here first, and then Matt is going to rotate through the joint. God bless you. Good to see you again.

1:54 Taking Back Sunday Oh, hey. Thanks for having us. We're also certified physicians too, just so you know. Oh, great. Oh, good.

1:59 Adam Because Drew usually nods off about 11 o'clock, so you guys can step in. Yeah. Phil pulls some of the slack. Speaking of pulling slack, Kimmel tonight is taking back Sunday, is going to be on the show this very evening. We're going to, was that experience good?

2:18 Taking Back Sunday Yes, great, great. It's definitely a little bit nerve-racking, but awesome time. Is it?

2:24 Adam Why nerve-racking?

2:25 Taking Back Sunday Well, because you grow up watching shows like that, and then all of a sudden you're on one, and it's kind of like, what are we doing here?

2:31 Adam Right. Actually, the first and only time I did Letterman, Biff Henderson, if you watch his show, he's the black stage manager. He was in, when I used to watch all the time, Biff, who was a sort of nice balding black man, would be in like, you know, Biff would go out on location, it would be Biff at the Olympics and this and that. And right before you walk out on stage, Biff Henderson is standing there holding the curtain, getting ready to open it and cue you, and you're just sort of looking at him going, what are you doing? Shouldn't you, like, is this a bit we're doing? And it's like, no, this is my job. I move the curtain. I'm the stage manager, remember? And it's like, yeah, but you're, you're the fifth Henderson stage manager. Yeah, it's like Marcus Welby, MD. He's not a real doctor. You're not supposed to be. All right, well, hold the curtain then. But it's surreal, yes?

3:27 Taking Back Sunday Yes, yes.

3:29 Adam Yeah, it's all right. The good news is... You get over it fast. You get over it fast. You get bitter. You get jaded, like Drew over here.

3:36 Drew I was gonna say, like you.

3:37 Adam Oh, like me. And now TV has been whacked up. It's a pie that's been whacked up into so many pieces that no one watches anymore. Now, if it was a pie, it would be wafer thin.

3:49 Drew Is it true?

3:49 Adam Yeah, it would be. I mean it like when people, you know, like, hey, the Beatles are on Ed Sullivan. Well, 66% of the country watched it.

3:58 Drew At least.

3:59 Adam At least, maybe 80% of the TVs were turned on. I Love Lucy. It's like, oh, Thursday night, hey, everyone just turn on I Love Lucy and watch I Love Lucy.

4:08 Drew What absolutely kills me, though, is the quality. I mean, while there's pure schlock crap out there, the quality of some of the programming is so superior. I watched Six Feet Under tonight. I thought, oh, my God.

4:19 Adam Well, there's too much good on TV. There's too much good.

4:22 Well, you get that and then you also get the reality TV shows. The absolute worst.

4:27 Adam There's too much good and there's also a ton of crap, but then there's a lot of really stupid people.

4:33 Drew So that crap's got to work. Who's watching? That's most where the viewers go.

4:38 Adam Listen, Sunny D sells a lot of product each year. You know what I'm saying? A ton of dumb people who have TV sets and are thirsty. The point is, you grew up watching Kimmel.

4:50 Taking Back Sunday Yes.

4:50 Shows of that genre.

4:52 Taking Back Sunday I've been watching Kimmel since I was, I don't know, five, six, Mark, you?

4:56 Adam Very young. I remember watching him as a lad myself too. Never dreaming that one day, A, I'd be working with him and B, I'd be older than he is. That, that's the part I never counted on. As a young lad, you know, dad smoking a pipe, scurrying me up the stairs, telling me I couldn't stay up late to watch Kimmel. Kimmel sitting there, porkchop sideburns with some gray on it, chain smoking, talking. A young Burt Reynolds and Dinah Shore. And me actually now being older than he is.

5:27 The truth is I actually saw the first week when Snoop Dogg hosted the first week, right? I was like, Dan, this show is really, really funny.

5:35 Adam Yeah.

5:36 And we were kind of just starting out at that time. So now we're playing it.

5:39 Adam The boy is a genius. And you can see Taking Back Sunday on Kimmel tonight. Also speaking of Kimmel, Crank Yankers tonight. New new season on Comedy Central. And speaking of Kimmel, too, these guys are big Windy City Heat fans, which won some award for best comedy at the Montreal Comedy Festival, which is, I guess, a good thing. So finally getting its due. How did you discover Windy City Heat? And by the way, Windy City Heat is an underground movie we produced and we're in. And it's mostly Jimmy and I did a little bit. And it's starting to catch on as a cult classic, though. It's been out for a year and people are starting to find it. How did you find Windy City Heat?

6:22 Taking Back Sunday Well, we the tonight was actually the second time that we were on the Jimmy Kimmel show. So the first time that we were on, he just handed us He made him watch it. Yeah, three of the DVDs. And we were in the middle of the tour at the time. So no, but after watching the first five minutes of it, it turned into all of our inside jokes revolved around like Family Guy and that for a long time.

6:52 Adam Alex Borstein, the mom from Family Guy. Family Guy and somebody I basically knew from ACME Comedy Theater. I actually kicked her out of my kitchen one time.

7:02 Drew And we spent Thursday with Mila Kunis.

7:05 Adam Oh, yes. Yes.

7:06 Drew And my spending most of the time begging her to let me be a voice on Family Guy.

7:10 Adam Drew's such a, you know, Drew, you're an idiot. You know, like, like it's like you begging a dalmatian for a job as a fireman.

7:18 Drew I know, I know.

7:20 Adam Just bit players.

7:21 Drew I know. Seth MacFarlane, that's the guy. I know, but she went about it with the family they are and the community they are. She doesn't even know who you are.

7:28 Taking Back Sunday She's going to be waiting outside for you after the show for saying that.

7:32 Adam Look, you want me to put a call into the Seth man? You say the word. Say the word.

7:37 Drew Word.

7:38 Adam Say the word and I'll call Seth MacFarlane. The word. You got to say it, though. You want me to do it? I'll do it.

7:43 Drew I'm dying to. Please, Mr. Crowley.

7:45 Adam If you're not going to pipe up, I'm not going to do it. Taking Back Sunday, number one requested song, Two Nights in a Row, by the way, on KROQ, KROQ, the mother station out here in Los Angeles. And not only is KROQ the mother station of Loveline, it's really the mother station of the alternative universe. I mean, number one station many, many years. It's perennial. It's the New York Yankees of radio stations, yes? Yes. And around?

8:12 Taking Back Sunday Even in New York. In New York also.

8:15 Adam KROQ in New York, but not KROQ in Los Angeles.

8:20 Taking Back Sunday Oh, no, both. They're both just huge.

8:22 Adam You're going to make a great politician one day. Where did you guys grow up, by the way? I probably asked you that last time you were in here.

8:30 Well, the band is like a Long Island New York band, but Adam is the only one who is not from New York.

8:37 Taking Back Sunday Well, Fred, too, is from Philly. Oh, Fred. I grew up in the southeast in North Carolina. Well, Taking Back Sunday actually played a show in North Carolina, and they were minus a bass player.

8:50 Drew You were in the bar that night and just walked up on the stage?

8:56 Taking Back Sunday What? Well, pretty much, it was something straight out of a Bukowski book. I was just drinking, and then they were playing, so I walked up, grabbed a bass, and the next thing I knew, we're number one requested song on Kara.

9:07 Drew Do people know that story?

9:08 Adam Wow.

9:09 Taking Back Sunday I just made that up.

9:12 Adam They had a cattle call. There was a little blurb in Dramalog, and bam, and he just went in. They said they had to write the right look. All right, let's hear something from Taking Back Sunday. How about it? Let's hear that number one.

9:23 Drew Then we will take some calls tonight.

9:25 Adam Well, we took three last night, Drew. I had things on my chest.

9:30 Taking Back Sunday Aren't you guys supposed to take calls all the time? We're supposed to take calls.

9:34 Drew And just three?

9:35 Taking Back Sunday Adam.

9:36 Drew Wait, there's going to be a new Adam in town.

9:39 Adam I'm fired, buddy. Sometimes I have more wind than others. Speaking of wind, I blew such a fart tonight that my wife was at the sink with the sink running. You know, there's times when you think you're safe.

9:52 Drew You mean the new house or the old house?

9:53 Adam The new house. Oh, my God. Old house, old house, sorry. You know, there's times you think it's safe to fart, like when a guy's coming by with a leaf blower or something. There's those OK times to fart, you know? A fire engine going by. When the wife's at the sink and the sink's got the steel sink and the water's running full-borne or backs to you and your two rooms over, I could hear her yell, what was that? She's a little nervous. And that's like, think fast, think fast, think fast. Fart. That's it. That's all I could do. This is the best I could do. But when the actual, you know, when it's more than a sound, it's a vibration.

10:30 Drew Oh, the smell.

10:31 Adam You don't smell it, you feel it.

10:33 Drew Oh, it actually hit her in the chest.

10:34 Adam Shockwave.

10:35 Drew Oh, my goodness.

10:35 The question.

10:36 Adam Yeah.

10:36 Does your wife get upset when you do things like that, or is she cool?

10:40 Adam Put it this way. Here's how bad my wife, I mean, here's how broken she is. She thanked me for peeing in the toilet tonight because I usually take a whiz in the sink. I mean, I'm actually taking a leak in the toilet, because she was hogging the sink. She was on the sink doing something, and I'm taking a leak, and she said, oh, look at you going in the toilet. Thank you.

11:03 Drew Such a good boy.

11:04 Adam Thank you. What a lad. Forty years old. Finally being in the toilet. I'm going to get you a toy. This is great. You need a little treat or something. Like a little liver snap or something. So, yeah, she's broken, obviously. She's thanking me for urinating in the place where human beings urinate.

11:24 Drew He farts and does the Dutch oven thing.

11:26 Dude, that is the greatest.

11:28 Drew And she doesn't like it. She's not appreciative.

11:33 I think that's genius.

11:34 Drew He does too.

11:35 Adam No, I do. She doesn't. It's the flap. It's the wave. It's the waft thing. It's the essence thing. It's the scoop. Especially when you go with the two-hand, underhand scoop. It's an offering. You know what I mean? Here you go. Yeah, sample my essence.

11:51 Dude, that's love.

11:52 That's what I say.

11:54 Adam That's what I say. It's greatest in the car. Okay, listen. Let me just say this to women about the farting thing, too. It's a little bit of a Mexican standoff we have with the broads, which is we think farts are funny. They don't think farts are funny. It's real. It's like Palestine and Israel and stuff. Here's the deal. We're not going to back off. You hear us, ladies?

12:17 Drew It's in your genes.

12:18 Adam It's in our genes. We can't help it. It's asking. It's real. It's like asking a lion not to eat meat. It can't be done.

12:25 Drew When your wife reacts negatively, what do you think?

12:27 Adam It's funnier.

12:28 Drew Thank you.

12:29 Adam I can't figure out why she would react. Here's what I'm saying. Let's stop quarreling. You guys just give in. We can't be budged on this. We'll pick up our underpants and put them in the hamper. Maybe I'll start peeing in the sink three days a week. And not do it on Easter or something. There's room for negotiation. And I'm ready to make concessions. Well, I can change. I think I can change in certain areas.

12:55 Drew But you'll never not laugh at a fart.

12:58 Adam We can make no concessions on farts. And so let's just move past this. Farting is always funny.

13:03 Taking Back Sunday Always funny.

13:04 Adam So you ladies, embrace it. Stop fighting it. Get on board the fart train. It's leaving Fart Central every hour on the hour. Get on board. And like I said, we'll make concessions and other things. We'll ask for directions or do whatever it is you want us to do. Right?

13:26 Drew Let's do that.

13:28 Adam Get on the fart train. It's a good Cat Stevens song. Do it by the way if you ever heard that one.

13:32 Drew Fart train.

13:34 Adam We've got to take some calls. We've got to hear it. We've got to hear a song.

13:38 Drew All right. Let's hear the song now. And then call us.

13:39 Adam But I don't want to do it if it's going to be an inconvenience for you, Drew.

13:42 Drew No. I'll hear the song now. Get some coffee.

13:45 Adam What about enjoying the song with the band right here? You don't get up and leave.

13:49 I don't think he really cares about our songs.

13:50 He doesn't say. He's like, yeah, let's get the song over with.

13:52 Drew We better take calls.

13:54 Adam No, no. We should hear the song that you should enjoy.

13:56 Drew Don't worry. I will.

13:59 Taking Back Sunday I think you're lying.

14:00 Adam Hold on. Can I trust you to rock? Here's the deal I need to make, Drew. I'm going to need to trust you to rock. I need the ladies to get on the far tray. All right. If those two things can be done, we can move forward with the show. All right. A decade under the influence, name of the song, Taking Back Sundays. And here we go. New CD, Where You Want To Be, out now.

18:28 Taking Back Sunday Today.

18:29 Adam Today, as we speak. All right, Drew, could we take some phone calls? Please.

18:35 Drew I'm anxious to discuss with the other physicians on the panel here. We've got some direct trepidal antigen tests we want to discuss here. Ooh, yeah.

18:43 Adam Laurie? You're 21? What's up?

18:50 Caller I found out last month that I had chlamydia and I've only ever had one partner. It's been the same partner for four years. And I was wondering if it's possible in any way for it to have gone unnoticed or...

19:09 Drew Well, our crack screeners here put syphilis up and that's why I was talking about direct trepidal antigen. Completely different disease.

19:17 Caller Yeah.

19:18 Drew Chlamydia of my...

19:19 Adam Better to have chlamydia, right?

19:21 Drew Oh, curable, but...

19:22 Adam What would you rather your daughter get first?

19:24 Drew Chlamydia is a little more civilized.

19:28 Adam Start with chlamydia, warm into it, and then go for the syphilis.

19:33 Drew Yeah, that is something you have to get through sexual contact. Now the question is though, were you accurately diagnosed, I wonder?

19:39 Caller Well, that's what I don't know.

19:43 Drew Yeah, but how were you tested for the chlamydia?

19:48 Adam Do they, but is your question, has your boyfriend been cheating? Cause you say you've been with him for four years.

19:53 Drew And is he the only one you've been with?

19:55 Caller Yeah.

19:56 Adam Is that bad sign?

19:57 Drew Suspicious.

19:58 Adam It is suspicious.

19:59 Drew You wonder whether she was properly diagnosed, whether she had some other kind of tubal infection.

20:03 Adam Can she, could she have sat on it for a few years?

20:07 Drew She could have. She could have had it for a long time and not known it. And they could have used it.

20:11 Caller Could it have been fat? Cause I've had pap smear for the last four years and nothing's ever shown up.

20:16 Drew Yeah, but that's a pap smear. They don't test necessarily for chlamydia.

20:19 Caller I thought they did on everyone.

20:21 Drew No.

20:21 Adam Well, what, what do you think the percentage? I know it's hard to tell, but you're just gut instinct. Boyfriend stepping out. Did this thing just come from nowhere?

20:30 Drew What I think is that the diagnosis was wrong.

20:32 Adam That she doesn't have chlamydia.

20:33 Drew Yeah, she probably has some other tubal infection other than chlamydia. That'd be my bet. And that you can get without sexual transmission, per se. You can.

20:42 Adam I'm assuming your boyfriend is not only cheating, but with your mother.

20:45 Drew There you go. No, just different opinion.

20:47 Adam That's my instinct. I'm almost never wrong. Laurie? Do you think your boyfriend's cheating?

20:54 Caller Well, I didn't think so until I got the test results.

20:58 Drew Have you asked him about it?

21:00 Caller No.

21:01 Adam Oh, baby, don't cry. I was just kidding about the mom part. Probably just one of your friends. Is he kind of guy who would cheat? Was he cheating when you met him? No. He said he was on the second partner.

21:18 Drew All right, so it could have been the first one.

21:20 Adam But here's the whole thing too, everyone. Here's how you know if your boyfriend was cheating, really. How did you meet him? What was he doing? Because if he was in a relationship and you worked with him and you guys started getting together and you did this for a few months and then he broke it off, whatever, there's a pretty good chance he's cheating. He's going to do it again. That's his MO.

21:39 Drew Serial.

21:40 Adam Yeah, if you met him and he was just free and clear, he'd been single for a few months or whatever, that's it. How did you meet him, Lori?

21:47 Caller At work.

21:50 Adam And he was single. Okay. And what's he do? This is another good way to figure it out.

21:56 Caller He's in school now.

21:58 Adam Aha. Doing what? Junior college?

22:01 Caller No, he's going to university.

22:04 Adam And what's he studying?

22:06 Caller History.

22:07 Adam Alright, he's not cheating. Impossible. Alright, why are you crying?

22:15 Caller Because we were supposed to get married in October.

22:19 Drew This all just sounds so bogus to me.

22:21 Adam Oh, it's getting bogus now?

22:22 Drew Yeah.

22:24 Adam We're going to call this bogus, Lori. There's no reason why you can't still marry him.

22:28 Drew Yeah.

22:28 Adam This doesn't mean he's cheating.

22:30 Drew We're telling you all these positive things. If you keep up on the ante here with the negative and the negative.

22:34 Adam Alright, so Drew doesn't believe you. You want to come clean? Alright, so are you really that... By the way, if you're truly this fragile and naive and have the mentality of a 12-year-old, you shouldn't be getting married.

22:48 Drew Right, absolutely. We're telling you they probably didn't cheat, probably don't have chlamydia. We're telling you all these positive things.

22:54 Adam Well, I wasn't. What's the matter? Are you that fragile emotionally? Are you depressed or what's going on?

23:02 Caller A little bit of all of it.

23:03 All right.

23:04 Adam Well, what are you doing beside crying? You working?

23:07 Caller Yeah.

23:08 Adam Where do you work?

23:10 Caller I work at two places.

23:15 Adam What's a good tip? And legitimate massage? You know, happy ending stuff. What kind of massage? Regular massage? Deep tissue. You know, what is it? Quiet down. We'll get to it. Is it $100 for like 50 minutes?

23:34 Caller Yeah, about that.

23:35 Adam And what kind of tip do you want? $30? $20?

23:39 Caller $20 is average, but $30 is always nice.

23:41 Taking Back Sunday Yeah.

23:42 Drew Because she has to work for her tips, you know.

23:44 Adam Here's all I'm saying. Here's what I'm saying. 50 minutes for someone who's got about 10 minutes worth of training. They're getting $100 an hour. And by the way, it's not an hour, it's 50 minutes. You're not an attorney. Drew's a doctor. Do you make that kind of money? No. And does the old Jew walks out of the place, tip you out on the way out? Or do they just start complaining and grab a handful of samples?

24:02 Drew There you go.

24:03 Adam Thank you. Now, that's all I'm saying. Do you need to be tipped out? And here's what everyone says. This is like, well, they don't get any of the money. They don't get any of the money. That all goes, okay, well, they should talk to the guy who's getting all the money and say, look, let's see. I got a GED and I got four months training over at the Handjob Institute of Arcadia. I'm going to need 25 bucks an hour. How about it? And you'll get 75 bucks an hour for staying at home. How about it? There you go. Let me tell you. You got 75 bucks an hour. You refill the eucalyptus bowl and I'll work my ass off here and I'll get 25 bucks an hour, which is more than a journeyman carpenter gets. And everything will be good. No, instead, it's, oh, no, I got to pay 100 bucks. Not me, my wife. You got to pay 100 bucks for 50 minutes. Oh, and here's another 30 of the guy whizzes in the sink's money. Here you go. There you go. Because you got to eat, right? I wish I wish we could. I would just should set up every business that way where I'd like to just set up a business where I announce I don't pay the employees. So whether it's clothing or food or whatever it is, you need to pay them. You need to pay.

25:12 Drew The business should employ them.

25:14 Adam The radio station should do that. They kind of almost do with guys like Chris. But it just means like, hey, guys, we do a radio show. We don't get paid. So if you could kind of help us out just a little bit here, could you help us out? We understand we don't get this is where we get our money. I like that announcement too, where you have a business and you go, hey, they get their money from tips.

25:33 Taking Back Sunday Wait, so I shouldn't have slipped Drew the 20?

25:35 Drew No, no, you should. Make sure you tip Adam out.

25:37 Taking Back Sunday You should.

25:38 Adam It'd be nice if I got a little love too.

25:41 Taking Back Sunday Well, I thought he was going to split it.

25:43 Adam He doesn't do that.

25:44 Drew No, he doesn't make my living.

25:46 Taking Back Sunday Well, Mark?

25:47 Adam He gives two dollars to Chris, the engineer, and then a dollar to the busboy, Manuel. He's going to be around a second to warm up the coffee. All right, let's take a break, Drew.

25:56 Drew Yeah.

25:57 Adam Yeah.

25:59 Drew I thought you gave the bottom of Lori's sexual abuse history.

26:01 Adam Really? Are you sure? Lori?

26:05 Caller Yes?

26:07 Adam Ever sexually abused? A little bit?

26:11 No.

26:12 Adam Nothing?

26:14 No.

26:14 Adam When did you lose your virginity?

26:16 Eighteen.

26:17 Drew How old are you now?

26:19 Caller Twenty-one.

26:19 Drew When were you born?

26:21 Caller Eighty-three.

26:23 Adam All right. Then that's a lot of math for a chick.

26:28 Drew What month? Eighty-three.

26:31 Adam What month?

26:32 Drew What month in 83?

26:36 Adam She hesitated. That was a beat. But wait a minute. Now, where you could be 20 should be 22 then, right? Depending on where we are. July what? Now, aren't we 22 then? Didn't we turn 22 a few weeks ago? Is it bogus or is she just depressed and stupid? She forgot. Drew, you forget. Here's, okay. Drew, where are you going, by the way?

27:13 Drew Can I stretch? I'm not going anywhere.

27:14 Adam No, I don't want you to leave. I don't want you to leave when I'm doing a radio program here.

27:17 Drew I'm leaving.

27:19 Adam All right. Taking Back Sunday, in the studio tonight, good guys, good guys.

27:26 Taking Back Sunday Thank you.

27:26 Adam Thanks.

27:27 Taking Back Sunday You're not so bad yourself.

27:28 Adam Thank you. They're like Windy City Heat. They're marginal fans of Crank Yankers, but that's all right.

27:33 Drew They're not mentioning that yet.

27:34 Adam I mentioned it. They give a half-knowing nod. All right. And they did Kimmel tonight, so one more and you went. Now they're on this show. Please. We'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

27:47 1-800-LOVE-191.

28:10 Adam That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Taking Back Sunday in studio tonight. Adam and Mark, both here, representing the band. Where you want to be? Name of the new CD, out today. All right, on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. So you can watch them right after you're done listening to the show. And watch Crank Anchors, that is, too. All right, number one, number one requested song on KROQ.

28:38 Drew It's amazing.

28:39 Adam Oh, it is. And let me say this, KROQ is the S, you know what I mean? It's like...

28:46 Taking Back Sunday By the S, you mean?

28:49 Adam I mean the S.

28:50 Taking Back Sunday The S?

28:50 Adam It's the S.

28:51 Taking Back Sunday I don't think I know what that means.

28:52 Adam Here's what I'm saying. There's the NFL, and then there's EuroLeague, and there's Canadian football, and there's arena football. If you're going to be an All-Star, what league do you want to be in? The NFL is the S. That's the top. That's what KROQ is. So when your number one requested a KROQ, you're the number one S. And your S doesn't smell. Glad to say smell. All right. Ready to rock, Drew? Let's help the kids. Let's go now. Let's break it down. Hey, let's get a hand. Hey, take a knee. And let me just say this, gentlemen. That helmet is not a chair. Let's go. Grab a knee now. Remember, in Pop Warner, they didn't like you sitting on your helmets and they had to tell you it wasn't a chair. Who do you like less, by the way? The guy who says, like, whatever you're doing, that's not a chair, whatever, that's not a chair guy or the excuse you guy? You ever get that one?

29:46 Drew The excuse you is worse.

29:48 Adam I walked up to a six pack of soda that was in the sand. The guy put it there to cool it or something. When I was at the beach when I was like nine, I was just walking down the beach, hey, six pack of soda washed ashore. I started walking and I heard, excuse you. And I thought, wow, I want to kill this guy. I'm nine. I'm like, mental note, grow up and kill this guy.

30:09 Taking Back Sunday Sir, I'm going to need your name and address so I can kill you when I'm a little older.

30:15 Adam I need to put a notch in your tooth so I can find you later on. Yeah, where are you going to be? You think you'll be in the greater LA area? All right, going to need to contact you in about 10 years when I'm strong enough to kill you. Kate?

30:25 Caller Yeah.

30:26 Adam You're 16?

30:27 Caller Yeah.

30:28 Adam What's happening?

30:30 Caller When I have sex, sometimes it's twice and sometimes it's more than twice. My vagina starts to hurt, kind of.

30:40 Drew Right. For many, many women, more than about 10 minutes is very uncomfortable.

30:46 Adam Good. I've gotten some well into my refractory period.

30:49 Drew Oh, yes.

30:49 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, that makes me feel a lot better.

30:52 Drew You're in your REM, refractory.

30:54 Adam Well, I'm eating, but I'm asleep, too, actually sleeping and eating.

30:59 Drew You're into all your REM, remote. You've got refractory, remote, REM, I think is your usual.

31:04 Adam Here's what I'm doing by minute 10. I'm watching TiVo, I'm eating, and I'm fast asleep, and I'm whizzing in the sink.

31:12 Taking Back Sunday As you're farting.

31:13 Adam As I'm farting at minute 10, and laughing, that's what I'm doing. And watch Taking Back Sunday on Kimmel.

31:20 Drew So that would be, you need to sort of assert yourself and say this is uncomfortable, this is not pleasurable for me.

31:27 Caller But I was just wondering if maybe it was like the condom or...

31:30 Drew Well, lubricant and condom, all that add to it. But the fact is for...

31:34 Adam Why does the lubricant add to it?

31:35 Drew No, no, I'm a bigger part. The condom can make you more prone to this. If the lubricant wears out, you need to add lubricant, this sort of thing. But the fact is, many, I don't know if I can say most, but many women, 10 minutes is about their limit.

31:50 Adam Do you use any lubrication?

31:54 Caller Just like lubricated condoms, so it's not like we add.

31:58 Drew Have you ever had an orgasm? I don't know what the intercourse is. All right.

32:04 Adam Well, maybe start supplementing your sex with a little lube, yeah?

32:08 Drew No, no, no, no. Oral.

32:10 Adam Oh, oral. Does it give you oral sex?

32:13 Caller Well, we haven't been together that long, and like, I don't know, so we haven't really.

32:19 Taking Back Sunday Oh, no, you should be doing that before you're doing the actual D.

32:26 Adam What's that?

32:26 Caller I said, this is like with my last boyfriend, too, but.

32:30 Drew What was your last boyfriend? Yeah, but you got to understand, you're configurated biologically in such a way that you're not going to have an orgasm without oral sex. That's probably going to be you. All right. So you might as well get involved in that kind of, if you're going to be sexually active, might as well find the things that work for you. And too much intercourse, obviously, even just even a moderate amount.

32:51 Adam She's 16. Maybe we should stop trying to talk.

32:53 Drew I listen. I listen. I'm trying to talk her out of it.

32:56 Adam No, you're not. You're trying to talk her into it, Drew.

32:58 Drew She's already having sex.

33:00 Adam You gave her a mandate for oral. Hey, Kate. Yeah? I'm sorry about Drew. He gets off on that kind of thing. That's his bag. You know what I'm saying? You're not European though. If you don't want to have oral sex, and also if you're not ready for it, I say get your grades up and start respecting your elders.

33:19 Drew If you have a condom failure of some type, keep that morning after pill handy, okay?

33:24 Caller I wanted to say something to Take Back Sunday.

33:27 Caller What up?

33:27 Caller I got the ear CD two days before it was supposed to come out. I've been listening to it nonstop and it's so awesome.

33:37 Adam I'm going to be doing a podcast show.

33:43 Caller Thank you for stealing our music.

33:45 Drew How'd you get it?

33:46 Taking Back Sunday Fair enough.

33:47 Caller I know somebody down at this radio station and they're like, I was like, wow, I really like this band and stuff. And he was like, oh, I've been listening to the CD and you can have it.

33:58 Adam The oral sex part is going to start coming into the story too. I know radio guys.

34:02 Taking Back Sunday Is that how he got you into bed?

34:07 Adam This DJ guy.

34:08 Caller Hey, thank you, though. Thank you.

34:11 Caller But no, like, I turned off your CD so that I could listen to the edge and then you were on there.

34:20 Adam She wasn't done. She had to work the F word in. And let me just say this, Drew, by the way, you and your horrible radio. Somebody gave me, I don't know, somebody gave me like a best of CD for the show. Somebody at home just made some CD for the show. And I don't know why they did it, but they gave it to me and I was listening to it in my car. I don't know why. They made it at home and then they gave it to me.

34:48 Drew Like a listener?

34:49 Adam Yeah, like a listener.

34:51 Drew At your home?

34:52 Adam No, I know the home parts. I really should have never said home. But the point is they made it on their own. It's not from the radio station. And they just sent it in. I was driving around listening to it. And I was listening to a call where we had to keep dumping the person. And I remember saying to you, Drew, I kept trying to like set up saying, OK, now people at home, you can't hear what just happened. And you were talking through the whole thing. And then I started getting angry at you while I was driving. If we dump, we're dumping. People ain't going to hear the little snippet that got dumped.

35:24 Drew Right.

35:25 Adam So we've probably had this conversation off the air.

35:28 Drew But we don't talk off the air.

35:30 Adam We do. It's just not about stuff we should talk about off the air. Talking about stuff, ironically, we should be talking about on the air, off the air. But the point is, is they don't hear the dump stuff. So we got to let them know.

35:42 Hey, I just cut the part that she says.

35:45 Drew If Anderson is the engineer, he just takes it down to the one word.

35:48 Adam This was the call. This is the call where we were on hold. We clicked over to the person and they were having a conversation. They kept dropping the F-bomb and they didn't know they were on the air. And for whatever reason, it got confusing at some point. That's all.

36:06 If they do two or three within five seconds, I got to dump ten seconds. Right.

36:10 Drew But the next time a cuss word gets through, whoever is on the board gets fired.

36:13 Caller Could you give me a little heads up, maybe?

36:15 Adam Well, what happened is Jeremy Piven was on the show a few weeks back and he yelled F-Face into the microphone about as loud as he could and it got through in Tennessee.

36:28 Drew Basically, it was the guy here took it out and whoever was at Sleep at the Wheel in Tennessee. Westwood One.

36:35 Adam Oh, Westwood One.

36:36 Caller Engineer Ken. His new name is F-Face, actually.

36:38 Adam Right. Engineer F-Face let it slide through and we got thrown off the air in Tennessee.

36:45 Drew Seriously, that would happen?

36:46 Adam Oh, that's what I heard. Isn't that what you heard?

36:49 Drew No, I didn't hear anything about it.

36:50 Taking Back Sunday You were just talking about how much you love Tennessee, too.

36:52 Drew I know. That's a bummer. That is a bummer.

36:54 Adam Yeah, they threw us off the air.

36:56 Taking Back Sunday Say it was a little heads up when they call us next time, guys. We'll work as a team. It'll be great.

37:01 Adam Yeah, no, the...

37:02 Drew Well... Nobody told me about it.

37:04 Adam We were at that ax party and they were telling us we were off the air.

37:07 Drew Nobody told me that.

37:08 Adam I was in the whole conversation. You were high again.

37:10 Caller Who's the guy that screams off when a person curses?

37:15 Adam Who's the guy who does what?

37:17 Caller Because when I heard the good curse and then all of a sudden I heard someone go...

37:19 Drew That was David Allen Grier on tape.

37:21 Adam Oh, that was probably... Yeah, dag as I know him or my main man. But I call all black guys my main man. It makes them feel like we're one. That's my main man name.

37:33 That's right.

37:34 Taking Back Sunday Johnny on the spot.

37:35 Adam Victoria?

37:37 Yes?

37:38 Adam You're 16?

37:40 Caller Yeah.

37:41 Adam What's happening?

37:43 Caller Well, me and my friends, we went to the erotic museum because we thought it would be a good idea.

37:51 Adam You're 16. They let you in there at 16?

37:54 Caller I look older. I look like I'm like 19. I've always looked older.

37:59 Drew I've never heard of this place. What is it?

38:01 Adam Erotic museum?

38:03 Taking Back Sunday They have sexy parties.

38:05 Adam I don't know what it is. It's like, you know, black and white porn with huge bushes, I guess. All the big guys with wax in their pubes and mustaches and stuff.

38:17 Caller I don't know. It was really, it was kind of dirty, but like they had like all of these like porn, they had like three porn videos. And then they had, they had a lot of like paintings on the walls and stuff like that of, some of it was like tasteful and then some of it was just kind of weird. But like, and they have this like seventies like porno video. All right.

38:42 Adam Let's save it for your online column, sweetie. What's going on? You got a problem?

38:47 Caller Um, yeah, like in the porno video, in the porno, it like scarred me.

38:57 Adam Well, listen, you're heading for the porn museum.

39:00 Caller Yeah, I know.

39:00 Adam What do you think I see? Like a bust of Lincoln? Like what do you think you're going to see in there?

39:06 Taking Back Sunday If it's a sexy bust, maybe.

39:08 Caller No, no, like, I mean, like I have an old like I have a brother.

39:11 Adam I'm writing.

39:14 Taking Back Sunday Me too.

39:14 Adam Yeah.

39:15 Caller Yeah. So it's like I've been like him and his friends and stuff. Like I've seen some stuff, but it's like when I saw like the 70s porno video, like this guy had like the biggest penis like I've ever seen in like my entire life.

39:31 Adam Yeah. Well, first off, you're 16. So so far, you should have only seen a handful of penises.

39:38 Caller If that it was like it was like a foot and a half long freak job.

39:44 Adam I really don't. Is this bogus again?

39:46 Drew No, no, no. She's freaked out by 17.

39:48 Adam She saw John Holmes.

39:50 Drew Yeah, probably.

39:51 Taking Back Sunday Matt isn't. Matt's just in the other room. We should bring him in.

39:53 Adam Matt Big.

39:54 Taking Back Sunday Yeah. Huge.

39:56 Caller Really?

39:56 Taking Back Sunday Yeah.

39:57 Drew Well, a little skinny guy.

39:58 Caller Yeah.

39:58 Taking Back Sunday I mean, not that I've seen it, but we should let him.

40:00 Adam We should let him get a little, you know, have a little, have a little mat time before he comes in. You know, just, you know, just drop the pants.

40:07 Taking Back Sunday Oh, well.

40:08 Adam I mean, a good athlete stretches out. I mean, piano player cracks his knuckles before he sits down at the Steinway, yes? You got to give a guy, you got to give a guy a chance.

40:18 Drew But there you go. Let's fish it out, Victoria. So it bothers you still, huh?

40:23 Caller Me?

40:24 Drew Yeah.

40:24 Caller Oh, OK. Yeah, like it sounds deeply disturbed. It looks like it was like really hurting this girl. Does it really hurt that bad?

40:32 Drew Yes, too big is too big. Yes, too big would be a painful experience.

40:36 Adam Yeah, but she was really high on coke, sweetie, so it was OK. Rest easy with that knowledge.

40:44 Caller And can I just ask something like, do you think it's too late for my boobs to grow any bigger?

40:54 Adam No. That window was closed many years ago.

40:57 Drew All the way to your 20s.

40:58 Adam Yeah.

40:59 Drew Well, some people into their early 20s.

41:01 Adam That's right.

41:01 Drew But definitely up until your 20s.

41:02 Adam That's right. May your boobs grow as large as John Holmes' penis.

41:07 Caller So you think they might grow a little bit bigger?

41:09 Drew Yeah.

41:11 Caller And if I wanted to get them shaped and anything, they would, like, shapes.

41:17 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, don't do that.

41:20 Adam All right, hold on, Victoria.

41:21 Drew Shape is implants.

41:22 Adam I'm now morbidly intrigued by Victoria. And already I could imagine her looking at junior college scholarship offers already as a young prodigy. Like, listen, baby, junior college, they must go out and find stupid people and get them young. Hey, you're 14. Where are your fingers? Have you been to your Northridge area? Go out to LA Valley College. We got Pierce. We got a great farming program out here. There's plenty of hacky sack to be played. Let's give you a tour of the campus. Come on. Yeah. Paying the parents off. Taking Back Sunday in tonight. We'll come back. I want to talk a little more to Victoria about what's wrong with her. All right. All right. After this. There, buddy, it's Loveline. Oh, a nice one. Taking Back Sunday. In the studio tonight.

42:31 Drew Really?

42:31 Adam I don't know, let me see.

42:34 I always try to remember what to do if the atom bomb explodes right then. It's a bomb, stuff can cover.

42:41 Adam Yeah, I've done better work, I gotta say.

42:45 Drew It's when you get diabolical in that laugh. Oh, in the laugh. It was bad.

42:51 Adam Adam Mark here tonight from Taking Back Sunday. Where you want to be, name the CD, hear something off that in the 11 o'clock hour on Kimmel tonight. When we left off for speaking to Victoria from Northridge, oh, the valley where I grew up, shocking. Shocking that such an intellect would be from the San Fernando Valley.

43:10 Drew Shaping her breasts.

43:12 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, at the age of 16.

43:13 Adam She went to the porn museum, which I find interesting too. And let me just, and she's talking about a guy with a big scary penis from the 70s. I'm guessing she's talking about John Holmes. I got a John Holmes video.

43:26 Drew Really?

43:28 Adam It's cool. Yeah, it's a bunch of just 70s, great 70s porn. It's awesome stuff, you know, really a little whacked down memory lane. But the very beginning, no pun intended, here's what I love.

43:41 Drew Victoria's dropped out.

43:43 Adam Here's what I love about the porn industry. Here's how the beginning of this movie start. It's called Boogie Down with John Holmes, A number one. And the beginning sequence is a guy, fat guy, like a bad belt, squeeze in some pants, and he's clearly on some set in Van Nuys, except for there's a little astroturf spread out and a styrofoam headstone that says John Holmes on it. And he starts out by talking to him, because John Holmes has been dead for 12 years, you know? And he's like, Johnny the Wild Holmes, a legend in the industry. We're gonna miss you, Johnny. But you know, his legend lives on in this compilation. I'm thinking, hey, pal, I'm beating off. The guy's dead. Come on. Use your brains over here for a second. I'm trying to beat off. You're talking to a headstone? Well, what's going on here? You got a picture of my grandma in the nude, too, that you could flash here? What are you doing? You've got to talk to a Styrofoam headstone? Really? Let's just start the goddamn movie. I think it's a fat guy in a bad belt talking to a Styrofoam headstone while I'm trying to beat off.

44:50 Taking Back Sunday Wait, did he have a shirt off, though? Because maybe he is, you know...

44:54 Adam Did the guy have a shirt off?

44:56 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, because some guys are into that more.

44:58 Adam No, I wasn't. No, no guy who's in... No, how dare you? How dare you accuse me of being into a guy with a shirt off?

45:05 Taking Back Sunday He could have been an attractive guy.

45:07 Adam He was an unattractive, fat man who spoke in a very un-elegant way, if that's even a word, to a Styrofoam headstone that was like falling over.

45:18 Caller Dude, I like it.

45:18 Adam I like some astroturf.

45:20 Caller I like it when the guys have the hair coming out of the shirt. Yeah, yeah, little curls.

45:24 Taking Back Sunday Did he have chains on?

45:26 Adam Gold chains? No, no. This was new. That's the whole point. John Holmes had been in the ground for 12 years.

45:32 Drew He was the 70s.

45:32 Adam He put the compilation. He put the compilation video. I mean, John Holmes died in like 1991 or something. Maybe it was 1993. Oh, AIDS. Yeah. Oh, AIDS. Yeah. Again, again, slowing down the whole process of masturbatator, of self-pleasure, I should call it. Here's the point.

45:50 Drew Masturbatator.

45:53 Adam That wouldn't be a bad kid's toy, masturbatator. You got to stick a little penis for the nose. There's a box of Kleenex stick to the head. Yeah, it's good times. I'm going to use some lube for the ears, daddy. Nice, nice, son. Drew, do you know what I'm saying? Holmes goes into the ground in 93. They do the compilation thing in 95, and I got a guy talking to a Styrofoam headstone when I'm trying to beat off in 2004.

46:21 Drew Mrs. Potato Head, too.

46:22 Adam That's all, that's all I'm saying. Chris, get on the internet and find out when Holmes went down. Was that after the Wonderland murders? Must have been 90 or something like that. All right, Drew, now what? Now we can't take any calls. We've been talking so much. Taking Back Sunday in studio tonight. Wait a minute, I think I got a good one.

46:39 Caller Hey, Adam.

46:40 Adam Hold on, I got a fart.

46:42 Caller Oh, nice.

46:44 Taking Back Sunday Never not funny, never not funny.

46:47 Adam Never not funny, never. All right, hold on, hold on a second. We got to take a little break. Not much, not much, not much.

46:55 Taking Back Sunday I'm kind of disappointed in you.

46:56 Drew A little perfume quality to it too, in fact. What is that? Powder, powder fresh.

47:01 Taking Back Sunday What exactly did you eat before you came in?

47:06 Adam I ate some night blooming jasmine before I came out like a goat. All right, with a quick break, we'll be right back.

47:13 Taking Back Sunday Loveline.

47:16 Adam You know, Drew, smelling good is more than a smell. It's an attitude.

47:21 Drew That's true, Adam.

47:22 Adam It is?

47:23 Drew I know how to get that attitude too. How?

47:25 Adam Break down.

47:26 Drew Axe, deodorant, body spray.

47:56 Adam I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-V-E-1-9-1, Taking Back Sunday in studio tonight. Mark Gaughan, Matt in Adam's Thing. Yes. Adam, not being me, but lead singer from Taking Back Sunday, which you can see on Kimmel tonight. We'll hear something else off of Where You Want To Be, and John Holmes died in 1988. Yes, Drew?

48:20 Drew Yes, Adam.

48:21 Adam All right, that's all good. So we're all caught up.

48:25 Drew Mm-hmm, John Holmes' history. Yes.

48:29 Adam All I'm saying is you're talking to a headstone before the porn. It's poor form.

48:34 Drew Did he cut in and out during critical moments?

48:38 Adam He's like, John, we're gonna miss you, buddy.

48:40 Drew John, that was a good one. Remember the time when the feeds back out.

48:44 Adam It was great, too. I had the pleasure of working with the great John Holmes on one occasion. He was a total professional. I love when people, I love that drug-coked up porn star came in there.

48:56 Caller Who's crying out for more plot in porn?

48:59 Drew I, women.

49:00 Adam No, no.

49:01 Caller Women aren't even crying out for porn in the first place.

49:03 Drew No, I know, but they're gonna try to capture a female audience at all.

49:06 Caller Right.

49:08 Adam I really think there's a percentage of life that is unnecessary, that's just protocol. Just people go through the motions.

49:16 Drew But there's also a sort of standing on principle. It's like, we are making film.

49:19 Caller This is what we do.

49:21 Adam Yeah, but you know, we always have a laugh about the turndown service at the hotel. And, you know, it's always, sure enough, they caught me. I always complain if you stay at a decent hotel, they got that turndown service. There's a knock on the door between seven and eight o'clock. Whenever you're beating off, taking a shower, doing whatever, you're taking a dump. Somehow, I think they have something that's hooked up to the toilet seat that's at pressure. Whenever there's more than 110 pounds on it, alarm goes off at the maid's thing and they start rushing up flights of stairs and they start banging on the door. Sure enough, we were out, I was out in New York last week doing the sax part thing. I'd just get out of the shower at about 6.45, seven o'clock. It just had the towel on, bang, bang, bang on the door. Sir, turn down service. Like, well, what do you need to do? Well, they come in and they yank the corner of the bed off for you and they put a mint on. And I'm always like, no, no, no, I'm fine.

50:12 Drew You gotta learn. The first thing you do at the hotel room is take that do not disturb sign and stick it out there. First thing.

50:17 Adam Let me tell you about protocol.

50:19 Taking Back Sunday And the comforter. Always take the comforter off.

50:21 Drew Some of these.

50:23 Adam Did the button. I was staying at the Four Seasons. They got the button, the do not disturb button, push it from inside.

50:29 Taking Back Sunday There's a button now?

50:30 Drew Yeah, yeah, some hotels.

50:31 Adam Nice hotel. Press that button. It's very nice. Press the button, got a little card underneath the door that said, sir, was not able to do the turndown service because the button was illuminated. If it was a mistake, we'll come back. It's like, leave me alone with the turndown service. Look, here's what I want. I want a nice pot of coffee waiting in the lobby at all hours of the day and enough with the turndown service. You know what I'm saying? Here's what I could do a little more of. Here's what I could do a little less of. I'm just saying there's that protocol, it's the plot in porn. It'd be a good name of a book. It says why we go, you know, the parsley next to the plate that you never eat. What are we going through this ritual for?

51:11 Drew But apropos to the plot in porn. But listen, did you notice in Times Square, there was a gigantic billboard with Jenna Jameson on it about a film about her life or something? I was trying to figure out what the hell, but it was basically a porno though, but it was sort of-

51:27 Taking Back Sunday No, but what an interesting film that would be. I mean, I'm sure her life-

51:30 Drew You didn't see that?

51:30 Adam I'm already interested.

51:31 Drew It was a huge billboard in Times Square. I mean, huge.

51:34 Adam I didn't go through Times Square when I went around it.

51:37 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, amen.

51:40 Adam Yeah, really, big, big-

51:41 Drew And sort of like, you know, world's most famous adult film.

51:44 Adam Well, isn't it adult film?

51:45 Drew You can't really tell, but I took away from it was-

51:49 Adam Jackable or not Jackable? All right, that's it, that's enough. That's all I need. There's two categories. Everyone, everything falls into it.

51:58 Drew Remember we had her up here? How long ago was that?

52:00 Adam Yeah, Jackable, yes sir.

52:01 Caller No, no, was she sitting in this chair?

52:03 Drew It was a different studio. Damn it.

52:05 Adam Yeah, yeah. Oh, listen, I broke her many years ago.

52:10 Drew How's that?

52:10 Taking Back Sunday Wait, you had her cry?

52:12 Adam I know.

52:13 Taking Back Sunday Or you literally broke her?

52:14 Adam We, well, first off, I think I was on the set of a movie she was on. Oh, yeah.

52:20 Drew Oh my God.

52:21 Caller Yeah. You're that kind of actor?

52:24 Drew Yeah.

52:24 Adam No, it's a long story, but I started on KROQ here almost 10 years ago, or right about exactly 10 years ago. Jenna Jameson has been in the porn business for about 10 years and two months. She was brand new, and I had her as a guest on this show.

52:46 Drew On this show.

52:46 Adam And I actually, no, on Kevin and Bean.

52:49 Drew Kevin and Bean.

52:49 Adam And a morning show here at the Flag Station.

52:51 Drew Because you spotted her in your field work.

52:53 Adam I don't know how it worked, but here's what I did. I swear to God, I put a feather duster attachment on a cordless drill and worked her over with it. And I also put a piece of, I'm trying to think of the material on a pad sander, vibrating sander, a piece of velvet on a pad sander and worked her over with it.

53:16 Drew What do you mean?

53:17 Adam What do I mean? Put a piece of velvet on a pad sander.

53:22 Drew On the radio?

53:22 Adam Vibrating sander, yeah, on the radio.

53:24 Drew Was she was clothed?

53:26 Adam She may have been topless.

53:28 Taking Back Sunday I don't think that's something you forget.

53:31 Adam This is back in the mid-90s, Drew, it was a different time. This is pre-eight.

53:36 Drew Then she was on this show, remember?

53:38 Adam She was on this show. But what I'm saying is, I worked Jenna Jameson over with a pad sander when she was knee-high to a bull weevil. I'm saying she was in like the ninth grade. I mean, I'm saying she was brand new. You know the weird thing, the whole thing that I found- Well, I didn't go downstairs with the pad sander. I stayed upstairs. You know, this one's vibrate. They feel pretty good. Pad sander, brrrr, vibrating sander, jitterbug sander. Well, she's a porn star. What's anything good for her?

54:10 Taking Back Sunday No, but porn stars are people too, you know?

54:12 Adam The feather duster thing was a little more vigorous. That didn't work out quite so well. That was sort of like turning the blender on and putting the cap on it. That was a disaster. I gotta admit, that was a mistake. Here's the weird thing about the whole thing.

54:26 Drew Now I'm not weird.

54:28 Adam The weird part is I went to a fabric store the day before to buy myself a piece of velvet, red velvet to put on to my Makita pad sander. And there was a woman, she must have been 40, just working behind the counter. And I just went in and I was like, yeah, I'll just buy this little piece of velvet. And she's like, uh-huh. Now, I was not on the right, people didn't know me, they didn't recognize me or anything. So she's like, yeah, buddy. And I was like, yeah, I just need a little bit, uh-huh. It was weird. It's like, how do you know I'm going to put it on a pan and work over a port stop? Obviously her thing is like, here's some dude who's buying a piece of velvet the size of a CD cover. He's up to no good.

55:14 Drew Good bet.

55:15 Adam Yeah, he's not doing a liner for his mom's curtains or something. These are going on handcuffs. He's doing something weird. It's going up someone's ass, something's going south.

55:23 Caller My brother used to work at a place called Fabric Bonanza. This is not a joke at all. And he said that there were some really creepy people that used to come in there. Like, you know, you'd have your like crafts, arts and crafts people, but he said other than that.

55:34 Drew Did he see a guy with like nappy hair?

55:36 Caller I'm gonna cross, I'm gonna call him and find out if he remembers you.

55:40 Adam This place was like, this place was like Button World or something, but Fabric Bonanza. Oh my God.

55:46 Caller It's on Long Island.

55:47 Adam You know what you're gonna get to at a place like that? You're gonna get a fair amount of like Satan worshipers making new druid hoods and stuff. You get a lot of weirdos in there. They must get a lot. Yeah, you're picturing just a bunch of your mom's friends in there buying frilly paisley. And no, no, it's gotta be, a half it's gotta be weirdos. Duveteen blacking out the curtains, making snuff films in the basement. Yeah, a lot of weirdos in the fabric store.

56:12 Drew Anyway, so you brought her into the world. I brought her into the world. Yeah, I broke her.

56:17 Adam I broke her. I broke her. I, I, I.

56:20 Drew You birthed her.

56:20 Adam I birthed her. Yeah, that's what I did. All right.

56:23 Drew And so you still communicate and you're still?

56:25 Adam We're tight.

56:25 Drew You're tight.

56:26 Adam We're very close. No, no, she knows. She's, she's a fan. She's not, none of that feather dusted. I think it didn't work out too good. I got to be honest with you. Yeah.

56:35 Taking Back Sunday I heard she's still mad about that.

56:36 Adam 10 years ago. Well, she's still, she's still got a swirl mark on her right.

56:39 Drew It's a major, it's a very important scene in this movie. So like Nora, it's a critical moment. All right.

56:45 Adam Patty. Patty, you're 22.

56:49 Taking Back Sunday Thank you.

56:49 Adam Hey, engineer Chris, get on the internet again and find out when Jenna Jameson's first movie release was. Then it'd be about, be about 10 years and four months. What's up there, Patty? Big fan of the band?

57:01 Drew And you were there when that one was filmed?

57:04 Adam No, I was there on another, another, another thing, but okay. Oh yeah. I went to the set. Well, here's the deal. I was invited as a guest, as a representative of the show.

57:16 Drew As a consumer?

57:17 Adam Of the morning show, the Kevin and Bean show. I went to the set. They're filming, they're filming in North Hollywood where I grew up. They're filming two doors down from-

57:27 Drew Your mom's?

57:28 Adam From the clubhouse. No, they're about, they're about 11 doors down from my mom's place, but they're about two doors down from the clubhouse that used to have all the equipment and everything for my Pop Warner football team, the East Valley Trojans, which I found ironic. And it was about 170 degrees and it was the middle of summer. And actually I was there for about 10 hours and her scene was probably about an hour and 11. I got tired and left. So I never actually, I don't think I actually saw her scene. All right, where were we?

57:56 Drew Couldn't put in a good 10 hours there.

58:03 Adam 1994. 10 years, right? Good call. And that's when I was on Kevin and Bean, right? Mm-hmm.

58:12 Caller Mm-hmm.

58:12 Adam Patty. Oh yeah, Patty, what's happening?

58:14 Caller What's up?

58:15 Adam Big fan of Taking Back Sunday? Big fan of the band?

58:19 Caller Yeah, I'm a fan, not a big fan though.

58:23 Adam All right.

58:24 Drew There we go.

58:24 Taking Back Sunday Thank you.

58:25 Drew That's cool.

58:25 Taking Back Sunday I think.

58:26 Adam Put you on hold for another... Here's the thing. It says band. Big fan. What's the inspiration for the new CD?

58:36 Drew It said there on the right.

58:38 Adam Right there. But see, and actually, you don't hear about the medium to small fans.

58:43 Drew But what's the strategy?

58:44 Taking Back Sunday Hey, rock the show.

58:46 Drew Big fan of the show. Nah, not really. Nettie, bring it up. Nettie, bring it up.

58:51 Taking Back Sunday Actually, I called it...

58:52 Drew Lukewarm fan. So anyway.

58:56 Taking Back Sunday No, she called to talk about wieners.

58:57 Drew Ella, what's going on?

58:59 Adam She was a fan. Ella?

59:02 Drew Poor Ella's been waiting 84 minutes.

59:04 Adam All right, baby. Sorry.

59:06 Caller Anyway...

59:07 Adam Hold on. Ella, big fan of the show?

59:09 Caller Yeah, I am.

59:11 Taking Back Sunday Good answer.

59:13 Caller Hot off guard.

59:17 Adam Okay, what's your definition of big? Go ahead, Ella.

59:20 Caller Well, I wanted to call, cause Adam, you know, when I hear you, you're always saying, listen to classical music and exercise. So I could, like, I don't know, summers are not good for me. So I was having a slump and I'm normally healthy and I was getting unhealthy. And I was like, you know, I can't, I'm just saying I can't afford a psychologist. So I should do something for myself. I shouldn't just wind. And so I did the whole classical music and exercise and-

59:42 Adam Let me just, again, let me just make that clear for a second. We talked to a lot of people that are nuts and they're depressed, mainly depressed, and they can't find any therapy. They don't have the means for it or whatever. I tell people, get some classical music, get some headphones and start going on some long walks. And it'll clean you out a little bit.

1:00:01 Drew Ella took Adam's advice. So after your first suicide attempt, yeah?

1:00:04 Caller Oh, no.

1:00:06 Adam So you start, you listen to some classical music and you started exercising. And what did it do for you?

1:00:12 Caller And I also wanted to ask a little question about the show.

1:00:14 Adam Did it work? Did it make you saner? Did it calm you down?

1:00:17 Caller I mean, I'm not like whacked, but it makes things clearer.

1:00:21 Drew In some studies, exercise performed, so to speak, well as compared to-

1:00:26 Caller Exercise is the equivalent of taking Prozac.

1:00:28 Drew It has in certain studies, it has shown to be very closely equivalent.

1:00:33 Taking Back Sunday Have you ever tried working out to slayer?

1:00:36 Caller Like a knife?

1:00:38 Adam No, slayer, the band.

1:00:40 Caller Oh, I'm sorry, no.

1:00:42 Adam All right, you got to try that.

1:00:43 Taking Back Sunday Good, stay away from that.

1:00:44 Drew What was your other question?

1:00:45 Caller I was wondering how the show makes a lot of money since they always have the commercials are just, what do you call it, PSAs?

1:00:53 Taking Back Sunday We tip Adam and Drew. We totally already covered this an hour ago, paying these guys.

1:00:59 Adam That's how we get paid. Where are you listening? In Maryland?

1:01:02 Caller Actually, we have commercials, but when I hear you on hold, I hear the commercial, or the PSAs.

1:01:07 Drew Oh, well, that's how it makes the, those are just fillers in what you hear in Baltimore.

1:01:12 Adam First off, you have commercials, right?

1:01:14 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, that's, oh, does it have commercials in Baltimore?

1:01:16 Caller Is this really your question?

1:01:18 Caller No, no, I was just curious.

1:01:20 Adam All right, here's how the show makes money. You know the commercials?

1:01:23 Caller Yeah, where I give you money.

1:01:26 Adam That's how, that's how. And what you listen to when you're on hold is the national feed.

1:01:33 Drew Which is, doesn't go on the air.

1:01:34 Adam And the national feed doesn't have any, doesn't have any.

1:01:39 Caller It's like what you do for charity.

1:01:41 Adam Could you shut up for a second, please? I swear to Christ, I'm playing handball against the drapes with this, Alan. Listen, what is that with people? It's like, right, right. And what the national, shut up. Here's the thing. The national feed doesn't have commercials. You then put in all the local affiliates, put in their local commercials. They don't want to hear a Cerritos Dodge commercial in Maryland. Although Cerritos Dodge is a fine place, not worth the drive across country just to get there. Although it is dealing days. I'll tell you that. And they're moving product for $1 over sticker. $1 over factory. $1 over, they make one. They sell a custom van, they make $1.

1:02:22 Drew And sometimes they'll let some of the PSAs bleed through just because it's so important. Things like airport security, laptop computer theft.

1:02:30 Adam Right.

1:02:30 Drew What your body is designed to withstand.

1:02:33 Adam My favorite, my favorite public service announcement. Favorite public service announcement. Anderson, please get that.

1:02:41 Drew Give us a taste of that one.

1:02:43 Adam Just give us the whole goddamn thing. Okay, these are the public service announcements we have to hear every night because it's, we hear the national feed and they take on very important topics.

1:02:53 Drew Now, I mean, God knows there are a million things that we could think of to make PSA, just based on the topic.

1:02:58 Adam Teen pregnancy.

1:02:59 Drew Yeah, the Kromosar palette here every night. There's a hundred things.

1:03:02 Adam Gang violence, illiteracy, sexual abuse, alcoholism, all these things.

1:03:08 Drew No, no, no, we're not gonna address that.

1:03:10 Adam But they tackle the really tough subjects, such as airplane turbulence.

1:03:14 Drew Here we go. Hold on. Guys, guys, it's buried deep in the show. I gotta look for it.

1:03:19 Adam It's buried deep. But you gotta hear this way.

1:03:21 Drew I don't even know where it is, because I don't listen to anyone.

1:03:23 Adam I heard it last week.

1:03:24 Caller What does it tell you to look out for it? Like what are you gonna do?

1:03:26 Adam It tells you to put your seatbelt on when you're in an airplane.

1:03:30 Taking Back Sunday Cause seriously?

1:03:31 Drew You wouldn't do that. You wouldn't do that. And nobody tells you to do that.

1:03:33 Caller That's that thing with the clip on it.

1:03:34 Taking Back Sunday 50 times.

1:03:35 Drew Yeah, seatbelt. I've never quite seen one, but I've heard about them.

1:03:38 Taking Back Sunday Every time I'm on a plane, I still can't figure out how to actually get it to close.

1:03:42 Drew Yeah, they really should tell you about it. They show you that they should demonstrate it.

1:03:45 Adam Well, I let it out and tie it in a knot like a hillbilly.

1:03:48 Taking Back Sunday Yeah.

1:03:48 Adam That's what I do. I don't actually, I don't understand the class.

1:03:52 Drew How can you possibly figure that out?

1:03:54 Adam I'll ask for the fat guy extender, and then just tie myself off.

1:03:57 Caller I ain't using no newfangled seat belt.

1:04:00 Adam Yeah, I don't trust it. What if there's a fire on the plane and I can't get out? Yeah, I'll just tie a knot. It's usually sheep shank around my waist.

1:04:08 Drew And God knows, you've got to use those life preserver, those life vests. I wear that the entire flight, usually.

1:04:13 Adam The stewardess never does bring up the whole seatbelt thing. That's why it's important to have it in the form of a PSA, giving you a little heads up.

1:04:20 Drew Because no one would ever tell you how to use those things.

1:04:21 Adam Not once you're on the plane. They don't discuss a seatbelt. Let's listen to it. And let's listen to what your body is made for. Go ahead, Anderson.

1:04:28 What a tough thing your body is.

1:04:30 Drew It's built to withstand bending, pinching, tattooing, swimming.

1:04:37 Hold on.

1:04:40 Caller Here's the story.

1:04:42 Adam Here's what I want to know. First off, more people die from hepatitis infections via the tattoo needle than airplane turbulence. First off, how many people die from in-flight airplane turbulence on a national level every year?

1:04:57 Drew As compared to things that the body is meant to withstand, like tattooing.

1:05:00 Adam Right. Okay. So here's the thing. If someone is flying from Newark into Chicago, they hit some turbulence and a guy dies in the plane because he hits his head on the roof. Doesn't it make the news?

1:05:12 Drew National news.

1:05:13 Adam National news, right?

1:05:14 Drew Maybe international news.

1:05:15 Adam Close your eyes. We've seen corpses being dragged out of planes. Every day, aren't you? Here's my estimation on how many people died of turbulence in an airplane on a commercial flight last year, zero. A little less than zero.

1:05:29 Drew How about the year before?

1:05:30 Adam Zero.

1:05:31 Drew How about the year before that?

1:05:32 Adam I'd say there's been two deaths in the last 11 years from it.

1:05:35 Drew It's not from turbulence.

1:05:36 Adam And that's not from turbulence, that's just an old guy who had a heart attack when they hit a little guy.

1:05:40 Drew Let's keep going. Let's see what we're designed to withstand.

1:05:41 Adam What else are we designed to withstand?

1:05:43 Caller Swimming.

1:05:44 Adam Swimming.

1:05:45 Drew No drowning. No drowning.

1:05:47 Caller No drowning. Shaving. Childbirth.

1:05:58 Drew One out of five death historically, but we're meant to withstand that.

1:06:00 Adam How many women do you think die during childbirth each year?

1:06:03 Drew Zero. Zero. Or maybe 10,000. I'm not sure. All right. All right.

1:06:08 Adam What else? What else do we got?

1:06:09 Drew Football. Football. Football. And body's meant to withstand that. That's why there's never been a paraplegia, never been a knee injury, never been a broken bone.

1:06:18 Adam Daryl Stingley, Still in the Wheelchair, Joe Theismann, Compound Fracture. Meant to withstand.

1:06:25 Drew Meant to withstand football.

1:06:26 Adam Here's the deal. More kids die at the high school level nationally playing football every year than they do from airplane turbulence.

1:06:34 Drew More people die getting hit with a baseball in the chest than getting stunned.

1:06:38 Adam So your body is meant for the tattoos, the swimming, the childbirth and the football.

1:06:45 Drew What else?

1:06:45 Adam What else? Where are we leading here? Bad cooking.

1:06:50 Drew No one's ever died of food poisoning.

1:06:51 Adam Not in this country. No.

1:06:54 Drew Rollerblading.

1:06:55 Adam Rollerblading. Yeah. No one's sustained an injury during that.

1:06:58 Caller No injuries there.

1:06:58 Adam No. No injuries. Right?

1:07:02 Caller A bunch of people died during that.

1:07:04 Drew Eventually.

1:07:05 Adam But what isn't your body made for? So that's the question.

1:07:08 Caller Even company meetings.

1:07:12 Drew But there's something the human body isn't built to withstand.

1:07:16 Adam What?

1:07:16 Caller Unexpected turbulence.

1:07:18 Adam Unexpected turbulence.

1:07:20 Caller Is this real?

1:07:21 Drew Really what you have to do is wear your safety belt the entire- What does that word? Hold on.

1:07:26 Adam What did he say? What did he say? Safety melt. I think it's a sandwich.

1:07:32 Drew So next time you fly, stay buckled up.

1:07:34 The whole time. Because after all, turbulence happens and you're just not built for it.

1:07:40 Adam Not made to be jostled to a seat. Right. But you are meant to take a hit from a blitzing linebacker when you're blindsided as a quarterback.

1:07:50 Drew Meant to a stand-up.

1:07:50 Right.

1:07:51 Adam So when LT's coming around the corner on the blindside, this 240-pound black man, he launches himself at your head. That the body, God designed the body for that. But being jostled in a padded seat?

1:08:02 No, no, no, no.

1:08:03 Adam No, no, no. Okay, so there you go. They give 30 examples. And by the way, all examples of things emergency room sees on a nightly basis. No emergency room has ever seen airplane turbulence. No, no. Oh, we got an airplane turbulence. Clear it out. Clear the OR out. We're rushing them in. Yeah. Okay. There you go. This is where tax dollars are going, everybody. And they're telling you to do something that they beat you over the head with when you get on the plane. Hey, the next time you're on an airplane, when you're taking off, let's see if you can undo that safety belt and get up and take a leak. See what happens. See if someone doesn't yell at you to sit down. See if you don't get tackled in the eye. Amazing. See if there's not a lip placard with it. Really? This is what we're spending our money on. This is what we got to do. And this is what we got to hear. And people, what do we do? Drive around taking notes? By the way, the people of this show, I don't think I've ever been on a, they call it a metal bird, by the way, the people that listen to the show. Yeah, they've never actually been on a plane.

1:09:02 Drew They think it's an animal.

1:09:02 Adam They think it's an animal. Hey, man.

1:09:05 Caller Who listens to that thing and is like, I bet I know what's coming. It's turbulence.

1:09:09 Adam Here's the thing. I would like to find the guy who put that together and kick the ass out of him. Here's what I'd like to do.

1:09:17 Taking Back Sunday Here's what I'd like to do.

1:09:19 Adam Tell us. I'd like to sneak into the guy's apartment. I'd like to give him one of those pillowcase soap type prison military beings. So here's how it works. He's right in the middle of the room. You guys jump up. You pull a rolled up towel over his mouth and pull it tight so he can't talk. Meanwhile, Drew and I beat the crap out of him. And I'm yelling, is your body meant for this, pussies? Stop wasting our money. Then I kick him in the nuts. And I say, go out there and do some PSAs about some people give a good rat's ass about you, puss. And get busy. Stop throwing the money away. Airplane turbulence. And who, by the way, raises their hand? You know, goes, hey, you know what we need a PSA? How about putting a seatbelt on? Oh, that's a great idea, Phil. Let's throw a few hundred thousand dollars at that. We got to lay that down right away. Let's get that in a heavy rotation on the alternative stations and we're going to play that. People need to hear about that.

1:10:11 Drew Well, as kids, they need to be aware of that.

1:10:13 Adam Yeah.

1:10:13 Taking Back Sunday Especially with this age market.

1:10:15 Adam Nobody's in prison, teen pregnancy, gang violence, all gone, all done away with. Domestic abuse, molestation, it's all sexual abuse, all finished with. Let's focus on the seat belts.

1:10:25 Caller We're getting on a plane in a couple of hours, and I know previously we weren't probably going to wear our seatbelts now. No, of course not.

1:10:31 Adam Oh, yeah.

1:10:31 Taking Back Sunday I wouldn't have even thought to.

1:10:32 Caller I don't even. Yeah, now we're going to wear them.

1:10:35 Adam Now, you could find me normally before I heard this PSA, I would be in the aisle working on that. You know that board that has just a little rolling cylinder in the middle of it? You stand on it. You just say, I think it's good for surfers and skaters. I'd just be honing my craft right there, take off and landing. Now that I've heard this, it's a whole different situation. All right. Well, good. A little heads up there, everybody. Where do you keep your wallet? My gruff telling you where to put your wallet. I like to put my foot up my gruff's ass. Thank you. Where do you keep your wallet? Up your ass, you mutt. Really? Here's the thing. I can't drive 10 feet in the city without seeing some graffiti. There's no PSA on, there's nothing of that. Take kids, leave the spray can at home or something, nothing. Nothing there. Airplane turbulence. All right, fantastic. We're going to take a back Sunday. In studio tonight, we're going to hear something off the CD. They're on Kimmel tonight. Take a quick break. We'll be right back.

1:11:38 Taking Back Sunday Alright guys, here's the deal.

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1:12:28 Adam I'm Adam. That's the good doctor, Dr. Drew. Taking back Sunday in studio tonight. Where you want to be. Name of the CD. Gonna hear something else off the new CD. Now, we're gonna take one call. One call, one call?

1:12:40 Drew Look at, it's push crowd, it's been a whole 90 minutes.

1:12:42 Adam Adam and Matt, both here from Taking Back Sunday. They share my outrage towards the retarded PSA.

1:12:48 Drew Yes.

1:12:49 Adam Pillowcase type beating, you guys with me?

1:12:51 Drew Well, Adam, totally with me. Over some urine here, he just described to me that his life goal is to find the guy that wrote this thing. Put him in a room and tell him for two weeks, don't put a garden hoe in your ear. Just repeat that over and over again.

1:13:02 Adam Look, he's gonna sit in a chair, he's gonna sit in a chair and for two weeks, I'm just gonna stand like a clockwork orange. I'm just gonna stand there and go, don't put a garden hoe in your ear. And he's just gonna go, why would I? Don't do it! Yeah, I'm not gonna, don't do it! And then I'll go, give me $20. Okay, don't do it! And then two weeks, I'm just breaking down. It's gonna come out crying, just a wreck, just a shell of a man, muscles, atrophy. And then I beat him with the garden hose. I got a garden hose, I just beat him. I just wanna kill this guy. I wanna find him and kill him. Oh, the idiots, the retards in this country. What we gotta deal with, the money, the time, the resources. Think about everything that's wasted in this country. Think about all the money that's going in. All we ever talk about is, oh, there's not enough for schools, there's not enough for infrastructure. I've been wanting a goddamn bullet train to Vegas for the last 22 years, we can't do it, we got no public transportation.

1:13:59 Drew Of law enforcement officers out there getting the parking enforcement.

1:14:02 Adam Chicken ass tickets, we got no, oh God, what we could do? I mean, here's the thing, this country, the potential for this country, like we're running at about 20%. If we were running, if we're running, Yeah, that's a nice estimate. Yeah, okay, 17 and a half percent. If we were running at 45%, it would be utopian.

1:14:24 Drew And it's no big deal to get there. Most of the inefficiency is related to the legal system? Laws?

1:14:29 Adam 90% of it is related to lawyers, and yes.

1:14:33 Drew Well, just laws.

1:14:35 Taking Back Sunday I think that going back to the parking thing, I think it's much more important to have 10 officers on one street giving people tickets than it is arresting drug dealers or rapists or criminals.

1:14:45 Drew Or checking the harbors out for terrorists.

1:14:49 Taking Back Sunday Why would you want to do that?

1:14:51 Adam Well, we don't have the resources.

1:14:53 Drew We don't have the resources.

1:14:54 Adam We don't have the manpower. We don't have the manpower. We got a hundred guys in right-hand drive Chevettes. What about those bushes?

1:15:02 Caller Do you want to hear something funny? My girlfriend got jumped on a train recently on this train line on Staten Island. There's one train on Staten Island. It goes from the ferry to the other side of the island and back to the ferry. One train. So they called the commerce, the town, whatever, to complain about it. And their answer was, what do you want, a cop on every train? But it's one train and one cop or maybe two and one guy that just could walk back and forth. And it was like, no, we don't have the resources. We don't have cops for that.

1:15:29 Adam We don't have the resources.

1:15:30 Taking Back Sunday Oh, and which is funny because in Brooklyn where I live, my car has been towed at least four times.

1:15:36 Adam Oh, they got resources.

1:15:38 Taking Back Sunday At the very least.

1:15:38 Drew They got energy for cars.

1:15:39 Adam They got a lot of energy for cars. For tow truck drivers. They have unlimited resources and energy for getting money out of you. But if you want them to do something, they got no resources, they got no time. Oh, okay, don't get me going. Okay, all right, we gotta talk to Scarlett. Scarlett?

1:15:58 Caller Yeah.

1:15:59 Adam You're 15?

1:16:01 Drew What's up?

1:16:01 Caller What's up? I had just recently gotten my stepfather in jail, because he had raped me.

1:16:09 Drew Mm-hmm, how old were you?

1:16:11 Adam Speaking of rape, did you hear that PSA? My ears were raped.

1:16:16 Drew How old were you when this happened?

1:16:18 Caller I was 14, I just turned 15 last month.

1:16:22 Adam Good.

1:16:22 Drew You did a good thing.

1:16:23 Adam I mean, good that you put him behind bars.

1:16:24 Drew You did a good thing for yourself, for other people, and for him, frankly.

1:16:28 Adam Oh, really?

1:16:29 Taking Back Sunday Really?

1:16:29 Drew Keep from doing, you know, some toughness guys.

1:16:31 Adam Well, that's arguable, but for us and for you, and that's important, people. He doesn't get a vote. All right, was it tough at the trial and stuff?

1:16:39 Caller I didn't have to go. But like, I don't know, I have one more session of therapy.

1:16:49 Adam How many have you had?

1:16:50 Caller God, I don't know. I've been going since November when it happened.

1:16:54 Drew You should go for a few years.

1:16:55 Adam Are you mad at your mom?

1:16:58 Caller No.

1:16:59 Adam I'd be mad at my mom.

1:17:00 Drew For bringing the guy into your life.

1:17:02 Adam Yeah.

1:17:02 Caller But she had no idea.

1:17:04 Drew Yeah, she still brought the wolf into the head coop.

1:17:08 Adam Yeah, listen, ladies, your spidey sense needs to tingle a little when you're bringing home the pedophile rapist.

1:17:14 Drew Yeah. Or by the way, your mom must have been a, your mom's dad must have been a victim. Right? Not that I know of.

1:17:22 Adam How's grandpa doing?

1:17:24 Taking Back Sunday Oh, well, she's like 15. And they probably didn't, she probably didn't talk to her about that.

1:17:27 Adam Not a lot.

1:17:28 Drew Yeah, her dad, what was he like? Your mom's dad.

1:17:35 Caller I'm not sure.

1:17:36 Adam Is he around? Me and your grandfather?

1:17:38 Caller Yeah, like I see him all the time and stuff.

1:17:40 Caller It's just, we never really bring up the situation.

1:17:43 Adam All right, and your mom gets along with him good?

1:17:47 Caller Her dad?

1:17:48 Drew Yeah.

1:17:49 Caller Yeah.

1:17:50 Adam These are not trick questions. No, so everything's cool. So, and the other, so everything's cool with her grandpas.

1:17:57 Drew And she did spring into action. You're pretty good.

1:17:59 Adam That is pretty good. All right, so you did the right thing and then you got into therapy, but did he rape you for a long period of time?

1:18:08 Caller Just one time.

1:18:09 Adam Just one time?

1:18:13 Caller Nobody else knows this. Actually, you guys are the first people I am telling this to. My own mother doesn't even know. As far as everybody knows, he's only done it once.

1:18:23 Drew But it happened repeatedly?

1:18:25 Caller Yeah, he's been doing it since I was like 10 or 11.

1:18:28 Drew All right, well listen, you gotta stay in therapy. And you gotta talk to the therapist about this. It is crucial to you.

1:18:34 Caller I can't stay in therapy. We can't afford it.

1:18:37 Drew Well, if they find out that you started when you were younger, they may be, maybe some victim services available for you, something like that.

1:18:44 Adam Where all the money's going in the past.

1:18:45 Caller But then how am I supposed to go about that? Because they've already given him, given him his sentencing.

1:18:50 Adam Well, he got his sentencing based on him, them thinking he raped you one time.

1:18:59 Drew What was the sentence?

1:19:01 Caller He's in jail for a minimum of four years, maximum of lifetime. It all depends on how he does in the rehab courses and stuff.

1:19:10 Drew I'm not so sure that you're talking about the extent of things or would change it that much.

1:19:16 Adam Well, they think once at 14, the courts.

1:19:21 Drew As far as she knows.

1:19:22 Adam Yes, Scarlett?

1:19:24 Caller I'm sorry, what?

1:19:25 Adam They think, hey, Scarlett? I'm sorry, listen carefully though, please. The courts think you were raped one time at age 14. All right, and I gotta believe, hold on a second, I wanna talk amongst ourselves. I do think these counts pile up. And I do think they do this with murder and they do this with other crimes where it adds up. You get four years per whatever. I don't know how it goes if you're raping someone over the course of three years. You're not gonna get 175 years in prison, but I gotta believe four year minimum, I mean, this guy might be out in 28 months or something. You know what I'm saying?

1:20:08 Drew Let's figure out why she doesn't tell other people. Scarlett.

1:20:11 Adam All right, as long as Scarlett.

1:20:13 Caller Yeah.

1:20:14 Adam As long as you were, well, first off, if this had been going on for a long period of time and you were silent about it, and I don't blame you for that, you were a kid, how'd it come out eventually when you're 14 or 15?

1:20:27 Caller I don't know, it just like kind of shocked me because what ended up happening was I fell asleep on the couch and I woke up when he was raping me.

1:20:34 Drew And that was enough for you, that was it, suddenly you had it.

1:20:37 Caller So it just like freaked me out.

1:20:42 Adam And I think- You decided to say something after a number of years. Okay, and so you finally decided to say something and then when you finally decided to say something, you just talked about that one incident.

1:20:59 Drew Listen, tell your therapist about the fact that it's been a longer thing, okay? Will you commit to us that at least?

1:21:07 Adam Yeah, it's okay. You're not gonna get in any trouble or anything.

1:21:10 Drew You're a victim. You had nothing to do with any of this. You were a child. This was an out of control, sick adult who himself had been victimized in some horrible way, no doubt, but now he's an adult. Now he's a criminal.

1:21:22 Adam Hopefully, he's being victimized as we speak. Is there, and again, this went on for a number of years. Your mom never had any inkling that this was going on?

1:21:33 Caller She had no idea.

1:21:35 Drew That's why it makes us think something happened to your mom. Yeah. But we're convinced.

1:21:40 Adam I know you're letting her off the hook. We're not. I think there's something up with her. And it's sort of negligent parenting, at least. I mean, your daughter's being raped by your husband and there's no-

1:21:51 Caller They're divorced now.

1:21:53 Drew No, I understand now that she-

1:21:54 Caller They got divorced a couple years ago.

1:21:56 Adam I know, but she was in the house and living, you guys were all living together while he was raping you, right?

1:22:02 Caller For like the first, for a year, yeah.

1:22:05 Drew It's bizarre that she didn't pick up on something.

1:22:09 Caller Normally when it happened, she wasn't home because she was cheating on him.

1:22:14 Drew This we're talking about. She has some culpability here.

1:22:18 Adam Okay.

1:22:19 Drew You're mind's piece of work.

1:22:20 Adam You're mind's piece of work. Well, here's all things, Scarlett. Tell the therapist what you told us.

1:22:25 Drew Yes, please.

1:22:26 Adam Okay?

1:22:27 Drew All right. Here's the deal. Mom couldn't possibly, no, she was busy screwing some other guy. How could she possibly know that that was raping me at all?

1:22:34 Adam Touche.

1:22:35 Drew You make a compelling argument.

1:22:36 Adam You're right. She's a saint. I had no idea. And by the way, I don't apologize very often, but when you're wrong, you're wrong. I was wrong about this woman. She's a delight. I'd like to have her buy for dinner. Listen to some PSAs. You can watch me throw a tantrum. Look, mom's a mess. And what we were saying earlier about mom possibly being victimized is the moms who bring home the predators are the moms who were the prey. They're attracted to predators. They were yesterday's prey is today's lure for predator.

1:23:09 Drew But Taking Back Sundays.

1:23:10 Adam Oh yeah, we gotta hear some.

1:23:12 Taking Back Sunday Good times, good times.

1:23:13 Adam This is what you call feel good music, by the way. I'll tell you what, you want to dance? It's Taking Back Sunday. All right, let's hear. Can we hear a song Anderson? Are we cool? We can squeeze one in, right? Come on, buddy.

1:23:24 Drew Come on, here we go. Here we go, bring it on.

1:23:26 Adam Come on, let's break it down. Chris, let's go buddy.

1:23:29 Taking Back Sunday How long is the song?

1:23:30 Drew Let's go.

1:23:31 Adam Song?

1:23:31 Drew Eight minutes.

1:23:32 Adam They covered-

1:23:33 Taking Back Sunday Two days long.

1:23:34 Adam It's a live version of Stairway to Heaven.

1:23:35 Drew Three minutes, here we go.

1:23:36 Adam All right.

1:23:37 Taking Back Sunday Actually, it's Freebird.

1:23:39 Adam It's called the Set Phasers to Stun. Taking Back Sunday, everybody, in the studio tonight on Kimmel Tonight, Naming the CD, Where You Wanna Be. We'll take ourselves a quick break. CD is out, by the way, as we speak. Drew, on the computer, take a, on the lead computer, take a quick break, and we'll be right back after this. That's Dr. Drew, Taking Back Sunday in the studio tonight. I said to hear an uncomfortable exchange between Drew and I, we argued during the break.

1:27:30 Drew They were looking down the whole time.

1:27:31 Adam Oftentimes.

1:27:32 Caller It was cute.

1:27:33 Taking Back Sunday Oh no, we were giving each other secret hand signals.

1:27:36 Adam Really? Yes. It's way more uncomfortable for the people who hear it, I realize, than Drew and I, who have these serious.

1:27:46 Caller Dude, hop on our bus. Yeah, hop on our bus for about 25 minutes.

1:27:51 Taking Back Sunday We tour with, there's 12 people that are in the bus with us. We are better at tuning things out than anyone that I know. So that didn't make us uncomfortable even a little bit. Actually, I was thinking about the PSA still. Good. It sucks.

1:28:08 Adam Good, focus, that's right, prioritize. All right. Drew, you all right? You're not wounded?

1:28:13 Drew No.

1:28:14 Adam Everything's good.

1:28:14 Taking Back Sunday I think you guys should hug though.

1:28:16 Drew No.

1:28:16 Adam We don't. We don't.

1:28:18 Taking Back Sunday All right, well, look, we're not going on with the show because we had a talk.

1:28:21 Drew We're fine, but listen, we got to have another fight tomorrow night, so we don't know what's big deal.

1:28:25 Taking Back Sunday Well, no, then you hug again, and then maybe it'll grow from there.

1:28:28 Drew Then it loses its meaning, its value.

1:28:30 Taking Back Sunday I think you guys could find the love in your relationship again.

1:28:34 Adam Hugging Drew.

1:28:35 Taking Back Sunday See, see, because you're thinking about it, because you want it, because you need that affection from Dr. Drew.

1:28:42 Adam Hugging Drew would be a combination between hugging Larry King and an ironing board.

1:28:47 Drew An ironing board is this close.

1:28:48 Adam That's what I meant. Larry King, stiff as a board, maybe. If you hug Larry King, and you just, imagine what hugging Larry King would feel like, and then go ahead and cross-pollinate him with an ironing board and now hug him.

1:29:02 Drew Imagine what that would feel like.

1:29:07 Caller Does Larry King stand up? I've never even seen him unseated.

1:29:10 Taking Back Sunday No, I don't think he has legs.

1:29:12 Adam Yeah, he does.

1:29:13 Drew But then the guy has to stand up.

1:29:14 Caller Right, totally.

1:29:16 Drew The Marinette guy.

1:29:18 Caller I'm also insulted by the Caution Contents Maybe Hot thing on my coffee cup right here.

1:29:22 Adam Oh, really?

1:29:23 Caller Because if you can't tap, I never know. It's like the lady that won all that money from the super big fast food chain for the hot coffee.

1:29:32 Taking Back Sunday Yeah, you idiot, that's your fault. That's your fault for being an idiot.

1:29:36 Adam We gotta get the lawyers out of this country.

1:29:38 Caller Coffee is traditionally served hot.

1:29:40 Adam Yeah, it's a warm beverage for the most part.

1:29:42 Taking Back Sunday Wait, coffee is served hot?

1:29:43 Drew And the blended, yeah.

1:29:44 Caller Yeah, hot coffee is.

1:29:46 Taking Back Sunday Okay, things I've learned today. Coffee is served hot.

1:29:49 Drew Adam, these guys are taking liberties. Sorry.

1:29:52 Adam I know, I like it.

1:29:54 Drew It's an hour show.

1:29:55 Taking Back Sunday No, we're trying to lighten the mood.

1:29:57 Adam They showed up.

1:29:58 Taking Back Sunday I was afraid you guys would start slapping each other.

1:29:59 Adam Fresh faced kids and now they're as bitter as we are.

1:30:03 Caller Moving in on your turf, see.

1:30:05 Adam Justin, Justin, you're 22.

1:30:09 Caller Hey, how's it going? How's it going, guys?

1:30:11 Caller What up?

1:30:13 Caller Well, my question is actually for Dr. Drew. My father, he's actually from Ireland. He's been drinking pretty much all his life. He's born and raised-

1:30:22 Drew Somebody from Ireland with alcoholism? I've never heard of that. I've never picked that up.

1:30:27 Caller So it's part of the culture to drink and everything.

1:30:29 Drew It's not just part of the culture. It's part of the biology of that genetic heritage. They have a very high incidence of this gene.

1:30:35 Caller Yeah, well anyways, he's been drinking all my life. Actually, my parents got divorced because my father drank too much.

1:30:41 Drew All right, what's the question?

1:30:43 Caller Well, the question is, me and my brother both moved out of our house about a year and a half ago. We moved back in. I've noticed in the last year, he's getting a lot worse with his drinking. He doesn't drink at home, but he goes to the bar.

1:30:56 Drew It's a progressive disorder.

1:30:58 Adam Yeah, you're 22 and you really, first off, moving back home is never a good idea. It's always a bad idea, and especially with an alcoholic McBoozer for a dad, you don't want to do that.

1:31:13 Drew It sounds like they're really kind of going back in to take care of dad as much as anything.

1:31:18 Caller My dad is a great guy. You know, he treats me and my brother both like great, you know, but I think he's becoming dependent on me and my brother because me and my brother are the only two people that he really has here in the United States.

1:31:30 Drew Well, you're the enablers now, though. You're also allowing him to keep going with this disease. If you really care, you're concerned that he's going to die of his condition, which very commonly happens. You gotta step up. You gotta say, look, we can't keep supporting this. We can't be a part of your demise. We're gonna have to be out of your life unless you do something about this.

1:31:47 Adam Maybe you go to Al-Anon.

1:31:49 Caller Yeah, well, yeah, I've heard of interventions, but I've heard on the show of interventions, but you say it does cost a lot of money, which me and my, I'm only 22, you know, I don't have $10,000.

1:31:58 Drew But what Adam said is go to Al-Anon, which is go to yourself, Goodo 12-Step Program, where you learn about how to deal with family members with this disease. And in my experience, the, that move has a more profound impact on the identified patient than anything else. If you go to Al-Anon, he has a probability of giving you free.

1:32:15 Adam All right, that's your first move.

1:32:16 Drew That's your move, it's free.

1:32:17 Adam Audrey.

1:32:18 Caller Oh, hi. What?

1:32:21 Adam You big, big fan of the band?

1:32:22 Caller Yes, I'm a really big fan.

1:32:24 Adam Yeah.

1:32:26 Taking Back Sunday Good answer, thank you.

1:32:29 Caller Yeah, so I have just been going around the city all day from like way in the early morning trying to see you guys. When you were at Tower, they sold out. And then so we went to, me and my friend Amy, we went to Jimmy Kimmel at four to wait for you guys. But then long story short, my friend had to go home. So we found a ride, cause we don't drive, we found a ride back to Jimmy Kimmel at nine. I'm really sorry. We found a ride back to Jimmy Kimmel at nine. And the security guards wouldn't let us in. So we just waited outside and we were watching you guys from outside and you guys were so good and we heard you.

1:33:05 Taking Back Sunday Oh, thank you.

1:33:06 Caller It was really, really awesome. And we love you guys. And yes, we went to the side and, you know, you had to leave, you had to go to Loveline. So yeah.

1:33:14 Caller It's a fitting end to the day now that we're on a phone together.

1:33:17 Adam And here's the real fitting part. We're out of time.

1:33:20 Taking Back Sunday Oh, man, I'm sorry.

1:33:22 Caller Just under the wire, girl. You had to go.

1:33:24 Caller Thanks, Baby Doll. Thank you for your support. When are you guys going to be back in town, like where I can meet you guys and stuff? Because I love you guys so much.

1:33:32 Caller Fall tour.

1:33:33 Taking Back Sunday Yeah.

1:33:34 Adam Fall tour, Baby Doll.

1:33:35 Taking Back Sunday Maybe October.

1:33:36 Drew Your headliner tour?

1:33:36 Taking Back Sunday Yes.

1:33:37 Caller All right, Audrey.

1:33:39 Adam Get your license before then.

1:33:41 Caller And I love Loveline too.

1:33:42 Drew I love all of you guys.

1:33:43 Adam Thanks, Weepy. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.

1:33:47 Caller OK, so I know there's nothing wrong with me. So what's up?

1:34:10 Caller This hour brought to you in part by Axe. Experience the Axe Effect.

1:34:36 Adam Well, that's the show everybody. I want to thank Taking Back Zeni for coming in and...

1:34:41 Taking Back Sunday Thank you for having us.

1:34:42 Adam Being smart enough to agree with almost everything I said.

1:34:45 Drew Not just agree, but pick it up and self themselves.

1:34:48 Adam You know what these guys did? Something improv called Yes And, and Not Only That, But. See, that's a little game. Take that.

1:34:56 Drew But they would have followed after that was a little weak. Yeah, they were good.

1:34:59 Taking Back Sunday And not only that, but I would just like to say for all the listeners out there, to next time you're on an airplane, please, please don't forget to buckle up.

1:35:07 Drew Please.

1:35:07 Adam Thank you.

1:35:07 Drew When you're in the airport, never smoke it. Don't set your computer down.

1:35:12 Adam They get stolen. All right. Where you want to be? Name of the CD on Kimmel tonight. God bless you. Come back as soon as you can. Until next time, this is Adam Crowley for Dr. Drew, saying mahalo. Where do you keep your wallet? My hip. Up your ass, you mutt.

1:35:25 Taking Back Sunday Look.

1:35:28 Adam This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Engeld. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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