Episode 1000591233652

0:52 Voiceover Loveline is meant for an adult audience.

0:54 Voiceover Loveline may contain sexually oriented content.

1:00 Voiceover Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.

1:03 Here buddy, it's Loveline.

1:04 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor.

1:14 Jeff Probst Hola.

1:15 Adam It is good to see you.

1:17 Jeff Probst It's good to be here. I listen to you guys every night.

1:20 Drew Every night? No.

1:21 Jeff Probst Pretty damn much. I love it when you get bad calls and you go, I don't buy it. But if it were true.

1:26 Drew Yeah.

1:27 Adam It's entertainment.

1:28 Jeff Probst Yeah.

1:29 Drew We entertain ourselves that way.

1:30 Adam I love the Survivor. I love that show. Drew, you know, you never stop talking about Survivor.

1:36 Drew You?

1:36 Adam No. Yes.

1:37 Drew I know. You're dead serious about that. He doesn't give accolades to much of anyone, let alone somebody else on television.

1:44 Adam Really? I really, and I think you do a great job, Jeff, because Jeff's job is to move the show along, almost be a little bit of a disciplinarian, but not detract from it or distract from it.

1:58 Drew Like if you got a guy- He has to make it a TV show.

2:00 Adam What's that?

2:01 Drew He has to make it a television show.

2:02 Yeah, well, don't overdo it, Drew.

2:05 Adam I didn't do that much, but the point is, if I was hosting the show, I would be talking about myself the whole time.

2:12 Jeff Probst Of course.

2:12 Adam And then saying, this challenge reminds me of a particular play in high school. And there I was, it was third down, and then they would have to edit all that out. But what I'm saying is, you have to be a strong presence, but the show's not about you. You're sort of the conductor, referee.

2:31 Jeff Probst You gotta have a lot of restraint.

2:32 Adam Right.

2:33 Jeff Probst They are the show.

2:34 Adam Well, I noticed last season, Johnny Fairplay was getting on Jeff's, he was on his last nerve, as we like to say. And there was some debate in the Jimmy Kimmel writer's office where me and a couple of the writers are huge fans of the show. Last year, last season, I should say, Johnny Fairplay told everyone his grandmother had died and gave a big sob story so that they gave him the reward challenge and then admitted he lied. Now, my buddies in the office were saying you can tell Jeff wants to kill him, but he has to bite his lip. And I said, I don't know if he knows that it's a lie yet or not. And they said, oh yeah, he does. And I said, how does he know it's a lie? And so did you know he was lying about his grandmother as soon as he said it or shortly thereafter?

3:25 Jeff Probst Shortly thereafter. Yeah.

3:26 Adam So the next time you saw him, you knew he'd been lying about that.

3:30 Jeff Probst Yeah.

3:30 Adam And, and, and.

3:31 Jeff Probst You can't say anything.

3:32 Adam Can't say anything. You're screwed. There you go. See, I would have been, you would have been getting grandmother stuff. Oh yeah, of course.

3:38 Jeff Probst Right. But no, you wouldn't have, because you know when you're out there, when he first said it, I thought, oh man, what a bummer. Right. And the guy's upset. He is human. And then the challenge ended and we walked over to call his grandmother to see what we could do. And you know, basically she answers the phone. So we go, oh, finally we got a guy that's lying. This is great. So as far as I was concerned, he's a survivor Hall of Famer at that moment.

4:02 Adam Right. So do you have more respect for him?

4:05 Drew Like, You weren't angry with him?

4:06 Jeff Probst No. He is a jackass in real life. That guy is just, he's just, you know.

4:12 Adam Right. So sociopath. As are many of the folks.

4:17 Drew Now I love this. This is on the island. Now I'm interested.

4:20 Jeff Probst No. And when you look at their psych profiles, we don't want the person who is reasonable, who can have it, who can think through something and come, we want the guy who's got troubles figuring out and who you know, when you find his buttons, he will light up and that, and he'll show you where they are sooner or later, if you don't find them.

4:37 Drew How do you know you don't have, you have someone's going to hurt themselves or somebody else?

4:39 Jeff Probst Well, we have a pretty, pretty deep medical team, you know, that looks at that. And that's what they tell us. What we do is we go through the casting process. We pick out our, you know, however many we might be interested in, 25. And then they'll come in and-

4:52 Drew Based on interviews or based on-

4:53 Jeff Probst Yeah, in really, well, when they're here, they come to LA, they get the psych tests, they get the physical tests, they go through an IQ test and they're all pretty intense. And then they sit with us day after day after day, and we sort of grill them and we go through and we're trying to find skeletons and all that stuff. When we finally figure out the 25 we may like, the doctors will come in and look at the cards and say, this guy, no, this woman, no, this one's on the fence. And then it becomes a debate about how close are they to being okay or not okay.

5:21 Drew How many of those are there? The not okays, the nearly not okays. Is it always one or half the crew, half the cast?

5:27 Jeff Probst No, it's usually just a few, but usually in our 25, there are one or two or three.

5:32 Drew Are they productive on the show? Do they produce what you want or are they a problem?

5:37 Jeff Probst Typically, they don't make it.

5:39 Drew They get cut out really quick. There's such a pain in the ass.

5:41 Jeff Probst Well, no, because the doctors will say the liability.

5:44 Drew They don't get on the show.

5:45 Jeff Probst Yeah, they'll say the liability is too high for this person to hurt themselves if they're first off or if they're humiliated.

5:52 Adam Were you fooled or duped by anybody who actually made it onto the show or even just surprised?

5:59 Jeff Probst We've been fooled, I think, a lot of times by the category of the hot chick because it's so hard to find a... Who, Jerry? She was great. Jerry's another Hall of Famer. Come on.

6:12 Drew So she produces in the upcoming season.

6:14 Jeff Probst Great villain. Yeah. Well, I don't know if she's a villain in the upcoming season, but she was a villain in the original season.

6:20 Adam Well, how do you mean getting fooled by the hot chick category?

6:22 Jeff Probst Well, because it's hard to find the 23 or 24 or 22 year old girl who has any life experience to bring to the show. Typically they don't. So we're always looking for that and that is invariably that is the person who on day four vomits and then says, oh, this is so much harder than I thought. I'm out of here. Yeah, I just, I don't have it anymore and they get voted out and in the room they're great. I can't wait to, I'm athletic, I was a track star in high school and I can be a bitch. Wait till you see how I use my sex appeal because I'm going to get naked and give massages and we buy it and they don't deliver.

6:57 Adam Drew gave the exact same speech to get onto this skit.

7:01 Drew Is that a coincidence?

7:02 Adam We had like two foot massages in a street style.

7:05 Drew You bought it.

7:05 Jeff Probst What am I supposed to do?

7:06 Adam And that was it in nine years, for Christ's sake.

7:08 Jeff Probst I love how you guys know each other's rhythm. You knew where he was going before he had six words out.

7:14 Adam Yeah, he's crescing over here. That's why he has to punch a goddamn mic every night when I beg him not to. But thank you for that, Jeff. Let's see, who's get, the one year, and I never, everyone's, I screw up everyone's name but the hot chicks getting naked has got to be a nice prank.

7:32 Jeff Probst Jenna and Heidi.

7:33 Adam Jenna and Heidi getting naked for no parent reason on those peer pylons had to be one of the highlights of the trip for you. And just in general, the notion of people's freedom of with nude, except for Hatch, Richard Hatch, who is now a character himself. So, I mean, you're lucky he wore anything on the plane out there at this stage. And his fashion himself is sort of breakaway sarong or something.

7:59 Drew By the way, he very quickly established himself to be a colossal, more of an evil person than I ever realized by withholding fire.

8:11 Jeff Probst Yeah, he says he can make fire.

8:12 Adam Well, that's the whole thing. See, now last, I had a nice laugh with my wife about this when she was explaining how she could make fire. No problem, I was like, you can't handle watering the goddamn pots. You're going to make fire, please, making fire.

8:28 Jeff Probst We've had 112 survivors, nobody's made fire yet.

8:31 Drew Why doesn't somebody, knowing that they're going to be on the show, study the hell out of it?

8:36 Jeff Probst Now they do, a lot of it has to do with the type of wood.

8:39 Drew That's available.

8:39 Jeff Probst Yeah, it's available.

8:41 Drew Yeah, so they don't know what they're going to have at the disposal.

8:44 Jeff Probst We've had our local guides at each place, in certain places say nobody's going to make fire. They will not make fire out here. We can't make it.

8:53 Adam And then torrential rainstorm hits and what are you going to do? But it seems like the chip, the flint, the spark, the machete on the rock thing seems like a higher percentage angle than the rubbing the sticks together thing. But oh my God. So Hatch is naked. Hatch is naked. Yeah, last week I think he just said he could make fire just as sort of a good one.

9:15 Jeff Probst Richard seems to me to be really insecure this time. He's been prancing around for three years saying, you know, I'm the best that ever played the greatest game in the world. And now I think he's out there going, I probably am not. And so it seems, you know, you would know more about this than I would. But looking at him, to me, taking his clothes off is his way of just riding, getting ahead of the pack.

9:36 Drew Yeah, it seems like he's, but it seems like he's shooting his water right up front. I'm going to do horrible things with hold fire to get everybody as weakened as possible. I mean, people are going to be angry.

9:46 Adam He's not. He's just saying that, though. I don't think he can.

9:49 Jeff Probst I think he thinks he's going home soon.

9:51 Adam The guy's wearing a skirt and has stretch marks, which makes him the god of fire. He's Mr. Heat Miser. He's been sucking on a daiquiri. It is it is a significant others flat in Manhattan. Yes, gay guys aren't good with fire. He's gay. Ironically, with the whole flaming thing. But, all right, this could go on forever, right?

10:14 Jeff Probst I mean, Survivor, I mean, you know, I don't it could.

10:18 Adam Why would it ever run out of steam? I mean, you get a new location, you get a new cast. And how does it how does it lose its momentum? I can't see it. It's just it's so compelling. And in a world of just every other shows a bad bad idea and so-called reality TV. This one has an object, whereas the other one's object is sort of public humiliation.

10:42 Drew It's really just there's a game.

10:44 Adam People getting drunk and embarrassing themselves. This has a strategy. It really has everything. I really love the show and I can't see it ever going anywhere. And I'm curious, would you like to be doing it in 20 years?

10:57 Jeff Probst Boy, 20 years, you know, the only drag of the show is being gone.

11:01 Adam Right.

11:02 Jeff Probst So at a certain point, I guess if I had a family and I could bring them out there and they could travel and you were really still doing it in 20 years.

11:07 Drew There's no such family, though. Kids have to go to school.

11:10 Adam So it's family Robinson.

11:12 Drew You bring tutors, I guess.

11:13 Jeff Probst Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, who knows? But it's fun to do now. And the reason it's fun is the reasons you just said. It's we sit in there in our creative meetings and we're designing conflict. We're designing situations to take normal people and put them in very stressful situations to see how they react. That is endlessly entertaining.

11:33 Adam It's great. I I used to not not on the same level, but when we would during the man show, we'd do the the wheel of destiny and we'd sit around and think of the bad things for people to do. Never, never prouder moment than me thinking of drinking a schooner of sea monkeys. You know, I really I really and actually me peeing on a guy's wallet.

11:55 Drew I thought that was your number one. Because you have to do that.

11:58 Adam Well, the guy's wallet had a pilot's license and pictures of his nieces and nephews, which I thought was good and very, very simple and got a lot of praise for being able to urinate on stage that way back to the audience. But it was amazing. You know, I don't like talk about myself or brag about my ability to urinate. But, you know, 100 episodes of the man show. Really, the most praise ever got was, dude, how did you take a leak on stage? It's like I had to take a leak. And evidently, there's a bigger problem with this than I was aware of. Oh, yeah.

12:29 Jeff Probst The stage fright.

12:30 Adam Yeah. Yeah, guys have difficulty doing it in the trough at Dodger Stadium, much less in front of a couple hundred people. So my proudest moment. But, yeah, it is exciting to sit around and those challenges are getting more elaborate and more amazing. And here's another argument I have with my wife. I keep telling her, whenever you demonstrate the challenge, you have this sort of headless person that is actually calling. I say, that's my job. That's what I want to do. This is my calling. I would like to be that guy, you know. And she always goes, no, that's that's just footage from the actual event. And I go, no, no, no, it's not. That's not footage from the event. She's sort of I sort of talked her into it. But I also talked her into that this is a gig that this guy's probably getting some kind of after scale or something like that. And I could easily be this guy.

13:16 Jeff Probst You know what the fun gig is?

13:17 Adam I'm an everyman with my shirt off.

13:20 Jeff Probst You know, I could put a red shirt on and you're the the red shirt guy.

13:23 Adam Yeah, I'm just saying they have the guy who climbs the rope ladder and who swings across the thing and who swims and they never show his face.

13:30 Jeff Probst There's a better job. There's a better job. It's called the dream team. And we hire 16 kids that are like 18 to maybe 21, 22, 25. And all they do is practice the challenges. That's all they do.

13:44 Adam See if it's feasible.

13:46 Jeff Probst Yeah. Or see how they can break it or see if there's a rule that we didn't think about that they can go through.

13:51 Adam Interesting.

13:52 Jeff Probst And that's all they do. And it becomes this little group of partiers that have their own little fraternity shorty thing.

13:57 Adam Is it the same guys?

13:58 Jeff Probst We bring some back and then we hire a lot of locals. But it's the best job in the world if you're 21.

14:04 Adam Yeah.

14:04 Jeff Probst You're getting paid a little bit of money and you go out and play hard in the mud every day. And then you drink in the bar every night.

14:09 Adam Wow. Yeah. Because you do you do watch. There's no way to figure these challenges out without actually having people compete and do that. Some things are just some things sound like, well, how are they going to tie those sticks together and get the key 20 feet away? So if it's impossible, the thing's ruined. And if they figure out a way around it, the thing is ruined. But I still want a little camera time. So I'm thinking I do want to be the test guy.

14:32 Right.

14:32 Jeff Probst Well, then that's a better job for you.

14:33 All right.

14:34 Drew So now we are going to calls first five callers tonight that over 18 will get the animal Uncut Special Edition DVD.

14:41 Jeff Probst We're standing that out ironically, starring Colleen Haskell, Colleen.

14:45 Drew Survivor enough and Rob Schneider. Absolutely.

14:48 Adam That's right.

14:49 Drew I was I was I asking, I think I asked Rob why she wasn't back for the All-Star lineup.

14:56 Jeff Probst She didn't want to do it.

14:57 Drew She wanted to do it.

14:58 Jeff Probst She had enough.

14:59 Adam Who really had enough and who really got their fire lit by it? I mean, who did you approach to come back?

15:06 Jeff Probst Only two people, Colleen, and she's working in production, and Elizabeth Hasselback, who's on the view. That was it. Everybody else wanted to do it and quite a few people are are very irritated that they weren't a part of it. And they take it personally, you know, there's only eighteen slots.

15:22 Adam Well, and also, stop me if I'm wrong, but when you're assembling the group, you can't have ten of the most dynamic characters. You need a couple passive ones and a couple passive aggressive ones, age-wise, sex-wise. You have to sort of, you need a football team that's not all going to be quarterbacks.

15:42 Jeff Probst You cast it the same way you cast a normal season.

15:44 Adam Right.

15:45 Jeff Probst Yeah, exactly. And that's hard for them to get, because they all think, they think this means now they're not an all-star, which now is a whole nother psychology level of being excluded.

15:54 Adam Let me talk to Drew for a second.

15:56 Jeff Probst Sidebar.

15:56 It's clear that Jeff hates all the contestants of the show.

15:59 Drew I didn't want to mention it anyway, it's clear.

16:01 Adam I like it when I watch it. He has as much disdain for them as we do for the callers of this show, Drew.

16:09 Drew Marginally less. He doesn't hate them, he just thinks they're less than.

16:16 Jeff Probst Quiet, he heard you on that. I don't think they're less than, but it is a weird relationship.

16:23 Drew I'm curious what happens to people after reality TV, because I did commentary for Big Brother 1, and some of those people were destroyed by that experience. George came out here.

16:33 Adam What's he do, tag them like caribou and follow their migration?

16:37 Drew I thought you guys are back in touch with some of these people.

16:40 Jeff Probst Yeah, I think it's probably a pretty weird experience to go from relative obscurity to being on a big hit television show.

16:46 Drew But they're known, but they have no talent. And so there's nothing they can really do to capitalize on, except be the guy from Survivor.

16:53 Jeff Probst I don't think most people see it that way. I think they look at it and say, now everyone knows my talents, that I'm funny and that I'm charmed.

17:02 Drew Because we've had several of them on this show. And here's basically how they do the show.

17:08 Adam Oh, Drew, untrue.

17:10 Drew Do you remember Wigglesworth? And she sat back and watched the show.

17:13 Yeah, yeah.

17:14 Drew And Jerry was involved.

17:19 Adam Jerry and I got into a little argument because I told her she had this Playboy thing going around. Well, first off, she did this crap, which always drives me nuts, which is, you know, I want to know how much money they pay you for something. And she's like, it's never about the money. For some reason, it's never about the money with the women, as if that would make them a prostitute. It's as if this makes us a prostitute because we won't do this for free. But it's never about the money. But then I always say, OK, so if they didn't pay any money, would you do it? It's like, well, no way. Of course not. As a matter of fact, they paid you half the money. You wouldn't do it. So, of course, money is a great concern. And then secondly, I said to her, don't you kind of have to strike while the iron is hot? I mean, you're coming off of the Survivor. Your name is on the tip of everyone's tongue. But nine months from now, when the next season comes out, you you may fade a little bit and that price may go down.

18:11 Drew Oh, my goodness.

18:12 Adam Her thing was like, how dare you? She was confused. She's like, what do you mean? I'm a celebrity.

18:16 Drew I'm a great actress.

18:17 Adam I'm like, yeah, I know you're a celebrity because you're on Survivor and you did well and people know who you are. But a year from now, I'm telling you, Playboy is going to not offer you as much. And she said, well, I was doing this a long time before Survivor.

18:30 Jeff Probst Well, and in Jerry's situation, she has been an actor for a long time.

18:33 Adam I know, but Playboy wouldn't have paid her 50 bucks before Survivor.

18:38 Jeff Probst To them, it's easier when you you guys have been in this business a long time. You you kind of understand how it works. I think when you're that person and suddenly you are on the cover of Entertainment Weekly and you're on this show and you get you're on the view. You think you have arrived. And why would it ever change? They've now seen my talents. I'll probably get a sitcom and maybe I'll do some speaking.

18:58 Drew That's actually what I was asking.

19:00 Adam It's a good point, though, Drew. Like for you, you know, you've clawed your way up from the bottom to the middle, middle, lower bottom, middle, middle, but lower part of the middle. Lower middle.

19:11 Drew Yeah, middle bottom is what I said. Middle bottom.

19:13 Adam Well, if the ladder had ten rungs.

19:15 Drew Two.

19:16 Adam No, you'd be like going toward the fourth. Closer to the third. So you know what I mean? You know what it's like to be on the first one. You know what it's like to look down that 34, 35 inches and see where you used to be. You know what I mean? They don't have that. They just pow, someone threw them up on the ninth rung.

19:33 Drew But that is my point.

19:33 Adam It's a fast free fall.

19:35 Drew When they fall, though, how does that affect them? When the reality starts to, when they don't have the talent they think they have or doesn't respond right, you know what I mean? They may have talents, but.

19:45 Jeff Probst Well, what I kind of noticed, and I really don't think they're less than at all. I wouldn't do that show myself, but they're different. They're definitely a different breed that wants to do that. But what we did notice is once we had cast the All-Star season, the people that we didn't cast suddenly, I think had this attitude of, well, you know what? There's nothing left for me on Survivor now. So if there's any vindictive bones in my body, now's the time to let loose with it. And I noticed that in some people where I felt like their attitude went, really? OK, well, you know what? I'm not part of the Survivor family anymore. So and I think that's in response to feeling left out.

20:23 Right.

20:24 Jeff Probst We give it this name called the All Stars, meaning you're the best and the other people aren't, which is not really the truth, but that's how it plays out. And I'm sure it hurts your feelings. It's feeling left out.

20:36 Adam Well, what do we have?

20:37 Yeah, we could take calls.

20:41 Jeff Probst What's the show about?

20:42 Drew Don't worry about it. Survivor, tonight's Survivor.

20:46 Adam I don't got a lot of other Survivor questions, but I'm going to weave them in seamlessly throughout the show. And I really...

20:54 Drew Several of the calls have dropped off.

20:56 Adam Well, I am serious about that test body thing, that gig where I actually test the stunts. Yeah. Kayla? You're 14? You want to date a guy, but friends say not to because he does drugs? What kind of drugs?

21:14 Caller All I know is that he smokes weed.

21:18 Drew How old is he?

21:19 Caller He's 14.

21:21 Drew What is it that you like about him?

21:24 Caller Like he's really cool and nice, but like my friends say that he'll end up being like my dad because my dad used to do drugs.

21:33 Drew Magically, magically, that's the case.

21:36 Adam And where's your dad now?

21:38 Caller Him and my brother live in Florida.

21:42 Drew How long has he been gone?

21:44 Caller About like four or five months, I think.

21:48 Drew So he just left.

21:49 Caller Yeah.

21:50 Drew That's gotta be tough.

21:51 Adam And that's it, he's there permanently?

21:53 Caller Yeah, he wants me and my mom to move out there. So we might be moving in May.

21:58 Drew He's not divorced from your mom?

22:01 Caller They were thinking about it, but I don't think they're going to.

22:05 Drew They're trying to work it out.

22:06 Adam How much of that stuff do you have to discuss with your kids? Kids, why don't you come in? Your mom and I are kicking around the idea of getting into a divorce. We're not sure yet. We'll tell you when we pull the trigger. All right, head back to your rooms now.

22:15 Drew Thanks.

22:16 Adam Really? You gotta know that?

22:20 Drew I was just curious why they've separated and the brother went with the dad. In any event, naturally enough, it's going to be a painful time for you, Kaelin. You're going to be looking for people to sort of fill that void left behind by dad. This 14 year old, I mean, you can certainly date anybody you want, but he may not be everything you think he is, and he really indeed may be just like your dad. In fact, we would predict that's exactly what you'd be attracted to.

22:42 Adam All right. Yeah, and so here's what you should probably do.

22:46 Drew Cool your jets.

22:47 Adam Once you lie low a little bit in the dating department, tell things get sorted out on the home front. The other thing you don't want to do is get hooked up with a guy that you actually have a relationship with. She's calling from New Mexico.

22:59 Drew Then she ends up leaving.

23:00 Adam She falls in love and then goes to Florida. Now she's got to try to get a ride like my Catholic little brother wanted me to drive to Kentucky so we could talk to some chick you met on the internet like 10 years ago. It's a disaster. This internet, by the way, is gonna destroy everything. And everyone's gonna be driving all over the place and running their phone bills up. So lay low until you get to Florida.

23:25 Drew Speaking of Florida.

23:27 Adam Ooh, we have a Germany or Florida.

23:30 Jeff Probst Joe?

23:30 Hey, Adam.

23:32 Jeff Probst What's happening?

23:33 Adam Well, you rock.

23:34 Caller Thanks, Joe. And Survivor does, too.

23:36 Adam It certainly does.

23:37 Caller Yeah, they should've got Elizabeth back on.

23:40 Jeff Probst We tried.

23:41 Caller Yeah, she's hot. But anyway, my Germany or Florida is a-

23:46 Adam Hold on a second. You know what I keep thinking about on that show? First off, I just think how much my beard would start scratching. Sexy, it's the next thing I think of. I would be walking around with a big white head on my forehead for like 28 days. There's no mirrors, I can't check themselves. How do they do that?

24:03 Jeff Probst That's true.

24:03 Adam I would bring a monkey to groom me.

24:05 Drew It's like a zit on my shoulder and pick stuff.

24:08 Adam Where does anyone get a zit on that island?

24:11 Jeff Probst Every so often. Well, you know, you are out in the sun. A lot of people's skin actually clears up because you're in the sun and you're in the water.

24:18 Adam It's just all the salt water in the sun. Drew, I would make a pact. I would be like, look, if you see a big zit on my back or on my forehead, you got to get it, man.

24:26 Jeff Probst Oh, Adam, they get to where they're in the Pearl Islands. They were popping, Rupert had these sores with puss in them and they would make little connect the dot maps on his bodies and the girls would pop his, they get so close and so nutty. They're popping, ooh, look at that one.

24:42 Jeff Probst Oh yeah.

24:44 Adam I'll tell you, you wanna know what would be a great business charging women to pop zits on guys' backs. For a group that is normally skittish and freaks out if you leave a little number one in the toilet for them when they come home from work, they love, oh, let me get that, let me get that, why? Let me get that.

25:01 Jeff Probst Why is that?

25:02 Adam Yeah, and then they're like, it's ready to go. It's ready to go. They're like, they're a little monkey. They're primates. They're primates. Here's what I'm saying. I swear to Christ, we could charge women money if I could find a guy who just produced.

25:14 Drew Grooming is in them, the primate grooming.

25:17 Adam It'd be like, it'd be five bucks for, no, five bucks for blackhead, 10 bucks for a nice sized zit and like 25 for car bunk. It's something that needs some lancing, you know? And then just charge women. And here's the thing about women. You just have to show it to them. You'd go, oh, come on, get out of here. Dave, pull your shirt up. They're gonna start shaking. They start going for their wallet. It'd be awesome. All right.

25:42 Drew Let's take a break.

25:42 Adam Let's take a break. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor. I don't even have to look at the paper to tell everyone it's Thursday nights at eight o'clock on CBS. All-Stars coming up this, well, we got started. First one, after Super Bowl. Yeah, so right in the beginning.

26:01 Jeff Probst You gotta watch. We'll take a quick break.

26:02 Adam We'll be right back. Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Nets, Dr. Drew... Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor. My favorite show, 8 o'clock on CBS, Thursday night, it's got the big all-star one coming up.

26:36 Jeff Probst This, well, it's this whole season.

26:38 Adam I'll tell you a couple of quick things.

26:40 Drew And the stuff Jeff has been saying is just titillates. It's like, I gotta watch this season.

26:44 Jeff Probst Yeah, there is some wacky, there's drama, there is stuff that's off the charts. I don't know if it's, I don't know what you would call it. And then there's this love affair that develops. It's actually kind of nice.

26:56 Jeff Probst Oh, let me see. Where's that piece of paper? Because I think I could figure out who this is from or who's having a love affair.

27:02 Adam First, a suggestion. Whenever they get the tribes together, they merge and they have to come up with a name and it's like Shimbabo and all this stuff. Couldn't one just call themselves Turbomax or something cool? You know what I mean? Something American and cool.

27:17 Jeff Probst They always take elements. They'll, you know, they will have figured out words from the environment around there and they'll want to use them.

27:23 Adam Yeah, and I, I mean, it's like, to me, it's like the white guy with the tribal tattoo. Who you posers kidding? You're half, you're from Milwaukee, the other half are from Idaho. You pick something good that sounds like an engine additive. Boo, something's got turbo. Ooh, I'll go with something that had stealth in it.

27:39 Drew Who's stealth of course?

27:40 Adam Ninja Stealths or something. You know what I mean? Something that evoked jujitsu and high octane. You know what I mean?

27:52 Drew Yeah, yeah.

27:53 Adam All right, let's see. Let me think who's having this affair. I think, ooh, it's Rob and Amber.

27:59 Drew Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought too.

28:01 Adam Yeah, because Rob, Rob, and by the way, Rob's one of these Bostonian guys who, Drew, you never told me that everyone from Boston was an asshole.

28:10 Jeff Probst He's great.

28:11 Drew He doesn't seem like that.

28:12 Adam No, he's great, but every guy from Boston has a sort of slick sense of humor and they're kind of snide and they're sharp-tongued. You never want to argue with anyone from Boston because it'll quickly devolve into something, I'll get called Brillohead, and just a matter of moments, Drew, you'll go to Four Eyes, it doesn't matter what you're arguing about.

28:30 Drew That's true.

28:30 Adam They're brutal, they're verbally brutal people. They really are.

28:34 Drew Tough people.

28:34 Adam And for people, even the blue-collar guys from Boston with a zero education, still kick your ass in a quick verbal tussle.

28:45 Jeff Probst Totally. Boston Rob can bring it all day.

28:47 Adam Yeah, I know. What do they do? Just sit home and have some burlets for A-holes tape that they just listen to in their truck on the way to work?

28:54 Jeff Probst Well, and there's something also about their rhythms. He said something in the first episode about nobody trusts anybody. Do you hear what I'm saying? Nobody trusts, and you're laughing.

29:04 Adam I know. I got it, that's it.

29:08 Jeff Probst So, it's Amber and Boston Robb.

29:10 Adam Yeah, well, I know that, I remember Boston Robb in the first episode was talking about Amber and saying that he was in, yeah, let's see, hang on. Yeah, yeah, it's Amber and Boston Robb, are we right?

29:22 Jeff Probst Yeah, no, no, you're right that he said that. In fact, he said something really touching. He said, I picked her for an alliance. Well, for one reason, she's beautiful.

29:30 Drew Yeah, yeah.

29:31 Jeff Probst Any idiot could see that.

29:32 Adam Yeah, yeah, it was really, there was something very sort of blue collar, yet sincere, like so sincere about, not an ounce of sort of slick, suave player.

29:44 Drew Could be Jenna in some way.

29:46 Adam Yeah, well, it's Jenna. Jenna never won, I think. But, yeah, when you got your call, yeah, we could get some good matching going on here.

29:53 Drew But Ethan and Jerry.

29:54 Jeff Probst All right, Drew, come on, focus now.

29:58 Adam The other thing, oh, one other quick question. You know, they advertise those buffs, right? First off, I never knew what a buff, I would have called that a bandana. Is a bandana you put on your head become a buff?

30:10 Jeff Probst Well, it's a little different just the way it's made, but also, I think, just trying to make language vernacular.

30:16 Adam It's almost like how bread becomes toast once it's put in the toaster, you know? Once you put this thing on your head, it's a buff. And they plug them all the time. I don't know what they're raising the money for. I don't know how much they charge. They're always like, get your official Toombaboo buff seen here, worn by, and I'm always thinking to myself, really, this is the big push? You guys are moving?

30:39 Jeff Probst They sell more buffs than they sell of any other item on any other show on CBS.

30:45 Adam Really?

30:45 Jeff Probst The buff. That's what everybody wants. Probst, can you get me a buff?

30:49 Adam Really? Can't believe they moved better than those wings coffee mugs they had left over. Is that CBS? The point is, I know I must, billions of people watch a show, they hammer home those buffs. And by the way, come up with a higher dollar ticket item, like a dinette set or something. You know, the buff. Who, and I've never seen, and I know this is gonna sound horrible, and I'm sure they moved billions of them, never seen somebody with a buff on the street. So what are they doing with them?

31:19 Jeff Probst Probably taking them to their, probably wearing them at home when they're watching Survivor.

31:23 Adam I have an idea of what they're doing with them, Jeff.

31:24 Jeff Probst Do you?

31:25 Adam Yeah. Yeah.

31:26 Jeff Probst Are we gonna get a call about it?

31:27 Adam It may, it may come up. Drew, you know how-

31:30 Drew That's just what you would do with them.

31:31 Adam Yeah, you know how I invented that bib?

31:33 Drew Yeah, the bib, yeah.

31:35 Adam Chris, a special bib? Chris?

31:38 Yeah.

31:39 Adam You're 22?

31:40 Caller Yes, and I was calling in reference to your comment about zip popping and money making.

31:46 Adam I'm telling you, I could sell a bad back to a guy, to a group of women and make hundreds of dollars.

31:51 Caller My mom used to, it was $20 a pop.

31:55 Drew Wow. For you?

31:56 Caller I know, great.

31:57 Caller It supported me all throughout high school.

31:59 Adam Yeah, I don't want to burst your bubble, Chris. She wasn't talking about popping zits. Your mother was a whore.

32:08 Drew No, no, she actually got paid for the pops.

32:13 Caller She paid me to pop my zits.

32:16 Adam Your mother paid you to pop your zits?

32:19 Caller So that she could pop my zits, exactly what you were talking about.

32:23 Adam And 20 bucks per zit?

32:26 Drew Not per sitting, but per zit.

32:28 Caller Per zit.

32:31 Adam Face zit or back zit?

32:32 Caller Back. Back.

32:34 Adam Well, cause chicks don't normally get the back zit.

32:42 Caller I just wanted to say, man, you should go with it. Make all the money that you can.

32:46 Drew Yeah, let me just, for the record, say that's not the right way to deal with that.

32:50 Adam I'm gonna open a center.

32:51 Drew There are better therapeutic ways to deal with that.

32:53 Adam I put the ad out for guys with bad skin and I charge them for beautiful women.

32:58 Jeff Probst Cause it's sorta fetish.

32:59 Adam Okay, now I got three sources of income. The guys who pay to actually have their back worked on, they pay a price. The women who actually pay to work on the back and then the videos I move.

33:10 Jeff Probst Nice.

33:11 Adam From the weird to the Asian market. So the guys, cause they're weird over there and they could really get into this. I mean, if you could beat off to someone stepping on a cockroach, you certainly could have some fun with this.

33:21 Jeff Probst Yes, right.

33:21 Drew And responsive jet pumping.

33:23 Adam Exactly right, Jeff.

33:24 Jeff Probst You're thinking like an entrepreneur.

33:25 Adam That's what I like about it.

33:26 Drew And you could send a survivor buff off with it. They could wear survivor buffs.

33:29 Jeff Probst That's right.

33:30 Jeff Probst You could buff off while you're watching this.

33:33 Adam Get your survivor buff as seen here, worn by the actual, yeah, no ass. I know, they're wearing the buff.

33:42 Jeff Probst All right, Joe? You're right.

33:46 Jeff Probst My Germany or Florida?

33:48 Jeff Probst Yeah.

33:48 Adam Oh yeah, Germany or Florida. This is a game we play, all bizarre news, stories emanate from either Germany or Florida. He says the story we guess.

33:56 Jeff Probst Go ahead.

33:57 Caller All right, an 81-year-old blind man heard a bump in the night, pot around for his 45 caliber revolver he kept under his bed for protection and shot his wife. Donald Kenstorm won't be charged with the death of Mary Kenstorm, 79, because the shooting was obviously an accident, says police.

34:17 Adam All right, hold on a second. I'm going to go Florida because of the caliber. He would have had a nine millimeter something if it was in Germany. 45's that.

34:26 Drew Well, that's how we solve this.

34:27 Adam Well, the stuff moves around though. You never know. But you shouldn't say the guy's name. But when you paw around under your bed for a gun, that's Florida. We're going Florida, Joe.

34:36 Caller It's Florida, no, it's Germany.

34:39 Drew Really? Wow.

34:41 Jeff Probst Son of a bitch.

34:43 Adam Is that Donald? I guess it could be German. All right, Joe. We're going to send you out a Loveline Buff.

34:50 Drew And an animal DVD.

34:51 Adam It's a napkin, true white one.

34:53 Caller Stay on the line or what?

34:55 Adam Wait a minute, do you have to be over 18 to win this thing?

34:57 Drew Oh, that's right, he's not over 18.

35:00 Adam When are you going to be 18? When's your birthday?

35:02 Caller In like two months.

35:03 Adam Two months, can you stay on hold for two months?

35:05 Drew Or maybe just put your mom on the line.

35:07 Adam I'll do that. Oh, Drew, what, do you think he can just put his mom on the line?

35:12 Drew I don't know, why not? And?

35:13 Jeff Probst Yeah, I think it works.

35:15 Drew If you consult the rule book, she says yes.

35:16 Adam Oh really? All right. To everyone who says why not, I would answer with why. If you really think about it. All right. We need a buff, Ann. Write that down. Getting tired of those cheap windbreakers. Let's talk to Danielle, who's 18. Danielle?

35:36 Caller What's happening? I got kind of a bad situation here. I'm 18, and I was with a 26 year old for a year. And he ended up being abusive. And so I left him just about two, three weeks ago. And then I found out I was pregnant. And me being so young and all, and I still want to go to college and have a future and stuff.

36:04 Drew Sure.

36:07 Adam Well, what kind of abusive was this guy?

36:10 Caller It was really, it was weird because at first it was just, he'd flip out on me and like scream at me and call me bad names when he was drunk. And then after that, it got to where he'd just flip out on me when he...

36:26 Drew All the time. Where's my bourbon? Was he possibly doing other drugs besides alcohol?

36:32 Caller Well, he was in marijuana, but we, after, you know, the alcohol, I just said, you know, I don't want either of that in the relationship anymore. So we both stopped.

36:42 Drew And that's when he got more abusive?

36:44 Caller Yeah. And it was like, well, what happened is when I left, it was like over a stupid, like video game or something. He started freaking out.

36:53 Drew So we got it. So you left him and what do you want to do with this pregnancy?

36:57 Caller Well, I was going to have an abortion. And my question is, is there a chance that I won't be able to have kids again?

37:04 Drew You know, there's always a chance with abortions, obviously, it's a surgical procedure, but it's very, very unlikely, very remote, that it would affect significantly your fertility. Though with each abortion, there is obviously added risk.

37:16 Adam Yeah, but it's not just sort of a punitive damage done by God, you know, not actual finished physical stuff, just God punishing you.

37:24 Drew For having had an abortion?

37:25 Adam Yeah.

37:27 Drew I guess you could look at it that way.

37:28 Adam That's who I look at.

37:29 Drew I figured you did.

37:30 Adam Even though I'm an atheist. I pick and choose my God moment. That's one of my God moments.

37:35 Caller I see.

37:36 Adam I can do whatever I want. There's a God of women, not of me. That's what I'm thinking.

37:41 Jeff Probst So is she looking, are you looking for permission?

37:44 Caller No, it's not necessarily. Well, because I already told my father about it.

37:49 Drew Oh, how'd that go?

37:49 Caller He's the one, well, he was upset, but he was very supportive.

37:55 Drew Her thing is she's worried about affecting her fertility with the procedure. No, really unlikely.

37:59 Adam No, but Drew, give her the speech about keeping in mind there's emotional repercussions.

38:04 Drew Yeah, that is an important point that women are not taught or educated about the fact that even early in the pregnancy, when you go through an abortion, not only is there a sense of guilt and loss, but there's a biological reaction that is profound in most women, where they feel that going from a pregnant state to a non-pregnant state is a huge letdown. And even in my estimation, women describe a feeling of having lost something. Even though they may have had no philosophical problems with abortion, all of a sudden they felt like they were attached to something which is gone and be prepared for that. The women are not taught about that. And there also is, remember, don't forget adoption. It's always out there as an option. It's a very heroic way to proceed.

38:42 Adam All right, Danielle. All right, listen, no more of these guys.

38:46 Caller Oh yeah, definitely.

38:48 Drew There we go. Well, I'm not done with guys.

38:50 Caller Not completely, just for now.

38:52 Drew Just a whole older guys, okay? Just stay with the boring, nice guys.

38:58 Adam The guys should not try to do that.

39:00 Jeff Probst Hey, what about that, the morning after pill?

39:02 Drew Yeah, it's the greatest thing. Is it? Well, not RU-486, that's an abortion pill, but emergency contraception prevents ovulation. It's not an abortion pill. It's worked exactly the same way that birth control normally works. You just take it after sex as opposed to before. There's all this ridiculous confusion about it. It's about to go over the counter. There's been something like 50 million uses of it worldwide. Never been a single adverse effect. None.

39:26 Jeff Probst What's the time period?

39:27 Drew You actually have up to five days, but it's best in the first, you have about 90% coverage in the first 24 hours, about 80 in the second 24, and about 70 overall over three days.

39:39 Adam Drew, and I'd like you to just start saying three days, because you normally say 72 hours, and I know we have a fair amount of listeners who think there's 100 hours in a day.

39:47 Drew So it's three days, three days coverage. And it's because the sperm waits for an egg to be released for three days. And if you give enough hormone to prevent the egg from coming out, that whole risk goes away. And it's great. Yeah, it's great. It would do away with most of the unwanted pregnancies and lots of the abortions in this country. And when, because there's a theoretical possibility that it may affect implantation of a fertilized egg. There's also a theoretical possibility of certain anti-inflammatories doing that. And the birth control pill taken before ovulation. Theoretical. Is that why we should eliminate this product? No, it's ridiculous.

40:22 Adam Nitro Max would be another good name for it.

40:25 Jeff Probst I like that one.

40:25 Drew I'm not like, it has to have an exotic flavor to it. That's too drag strip. That's too drag strip.

40:30 Adam Now here's what I'd like to do as a country. You know, like we're so enamored with other cultures when all we do is bomb them and beat them up, you know? I mean, I think it's a form of compensation. It's like beat the crap out of the Indians, then name all the SUVs after them in the mountain ranges. You know, it's definitely compensation. Let's just start, you know, throw all the Mexicans out of California and then every street is just a pulpit in Los Feliz. You know, just name everything after them. It's like, we'll kick your ass, we'll give you some diseased blankets, we'll toss you into a reservation, we'll starve you out and kill you. But no worry, we'll name a mountain range after you. I just say, like, as we do it, like with the panda bears, you know, they're always Ling Ling or Ching Chang or Ding Dang or Wing Wang or something. We're renting them, for Christ's sake. Let's start naming them Stu and Bill, Steve Ho. You know what I mean? Big Ted. Who are we kidding? Who are we kidding? And by the way, if we're gonna spend all this money leasing animals and stuff, we should be able to name them what we want to name them. And believe me, other countries aren't naming their crap after us. You know what I'm saying? There's no Jeff. There's no Jeff Panda Bear over in China. I'll tell you that right now. You see what I'm saying?

41:36 Drew I see what you're saying.

41:37 Adam And these tribes that go with good old American names. That's the new thing. Straight, just in cool names too. And ones I can remember because I can't remember the Shambhala, Wama, Ding, Dang tribe and all that.

41:48 Jeff Probst I love these rants.

41:50 Adam Well, oh, there's more. I'm just, I'm getting warmed up now. Jeff Probst is here from Survivor, Thursday Nights. I shouldn't, we shouldn't even plug this show. It gets enough. It's enough.

41:59 Jeff Probst Enough already.

42:01 Adam Yeah. Watch this, so you can reverse psychology. Don't what Jeff has begged me to ask you not to watch Survivor this week because it's too compelling. And many of you wouldn't be able to handle it emotionally. All right, we gotta take a break. We'll be right back.

42:15 Jeff Probst Love Lines with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.

42:17 1-800-LOVE-191.

42:37 Adam There, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor, obviously. Thursday nights, CBS, eight o'clock at the All-Star Series. And let me just say this. First five callers to get on the air tonight are gonna get a new uncut special DVD starring Rob Schneider of The Animal, which-

43:00 Drew Ann Colleen.

43:02 Adam Oh, Ann Colleen, that's right.

43:03 Drew From Survivor.

43:03 Adam That's the connection. So you call up, you're over 18, you get on the air. We give you one. Yes?

43:10 Drew Yes.

43:10 Adam And if, like I said, I think technically you can stay on hold until you turn 18 or put your mom on. Drew has decided that if you put your mom on, it's cool.

43:20 Drew We're giving it to her.

43:21 Adam Yeah. And like, so if I, it's like buying beer. Like I could send my dad in a liquor store when I was 14 and he could buy me a sixer, right?

43:29 Drew That's how it works, yeah.

43:31 Adam Let's talk to Nicole, who's 18. Nicole? What's happening?

43:36 I know most girls can't have orgasms when they're having sex, but I can feel myself start to climax, but I start shaking and I start like crying and I just want to know what's going on.

43:49 Drew Are you able to have orgasm by any other way?

43:51 I haven't tried.

43:53 Adam Yeah, why do you think you start crying?

43:56 I don't know. I think it's just more the fact that I'm shaking what makes me cry, but.

44:00 Drew You mean you're scared?

44:02 Oh, I don't know if I'm scared, but I like start bawling literally, and it's kind of pissing me off because I make the guy feel bad. Yeah.

44:10 Drew Why don't you try other ways of reaching climax other than intercourse?

44:13 Mm-hmm.

44:15 Jeff Probst Uh-huh.

44:16 Drew Sounds very committed. Uh-huh.

44:18 Adam You can use a survivor buff for dental dam. Did you know that, Drew?

44:21 Drew That's remarkable. Mm-hmm. All right, how about just.

44:24 Jeff Probst You can use it for a lot of things.

44:25 Jeff Probst Yeah.

44:25 Drew I'm going to get the Trojan people to have condoms sort of buffed.

44:29 Jeff Probst Yeah.

44:29 Drew No, with the survivor logo on the outside.

44:31 Jeff Probst Yeah, yeah.

44:31 Good.

44:32 Adam It's strong.

44:33 Yeah.

44:33 Adam Nicole? All right, is there anything we need to know about where you were sexually abused. Or physically abused.

44:43 Drew All right, so it sounds like when you're sort of reaching those dead points of intimacy or sort of losing yourself in those moments with somebody you feel close to, it becomes a little overwhelming. Mm-hmm. So maybe take it slower, take doses of it you can tolerate better, maybe not during intercourse.

44:58 Adam Well, yeah, how's oral sex do for you?

45:01 It's okay, I mean, I've never been able to have an orgasm during oral sex, but I've never really started to climax either.

45:08 Mm-hmm.

45:09 Drew What does that mean?

45:12 What I mean by that is like when I'm having sex, I can feel myself starting to tense up and it's pleasurable, but then when it just gets too much, I just like break down.

45:23 Adam All right, you're all up in your head. You gotta take a chill pill. How about some wine coolers or something?

45:29 Drew 18.

45:29 Adam Okay, then weed.

45:30 I have a quick, another question. My friend, she always gets, her mouth gets really dry every time she has sex and I just wanna know if she can do anything for that.

45:39 Drew Chill pill. Stop breathing through her mouth. Breathe through her nose.

45:43 Adam Yeah, get one of those Breathe Right strips. They're making a new one for BJs now. That's an item. That's my money maker right there.

45:50 Drew With the Survivor logo across the top.

45:52 Adam Survivor logo.

45:53 Jeff Probst Anything with Survivor logo right now.

45:54 Drew Let's get in on it. BJ strips.

45:56 Adam Yeah, it's like, first off, it'd be a commercial. You would not be fast forwarding and Tivo-ing through that commercial. That'd be one you'd be watching. Tired of this? Yeah, yeah, I would really. This could be good because oral sex, obviously you gotta use the nasal passage and you gotta keep that movement, right? And they have like an industrial one for prostitutes. You know what I mean?

46:26 Drew Yeah, I'm listening.

46:27 Adam We could get like the Hilton Sisters or something to possibly endorse it. There's many celebrities we could, directions we could go with this. All right, Nicole's up in her head. She's all freaked out. She's like going in with, she has conditions and she's like, I'm getting this way. You gotta relax a little bit.

46:42 Jeff Probst Especially when that orgasm or whatever she was calling it is starting to get there. That's when you really wanna just back it off a little.

46:47 Drew Yeah, I think she's overwhelmed. It's just too painful to be opening vulnerable.

46:51 Jeff Probst Right. All right, we'll take a quick break.

46:52 Adam Jeff Probst here tonight from Survivor and we'll be right back.

46:56 Jeff Probst Here it is, bottom line, it sucks being single today.

46:59 Jeff Probst Tons of lame people and no decent prospects.

47:01 Jeff Probst Call the Dateline.

47:02 Jeff Probst Call the Dateline.

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47:37 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor, and we're delighted.

47:46 Jeff Probst I do love that Survivor.

47:49 Adam I do the Survivor dance at the beginning.

47:52 Yeah, oh, there you go.

47:54 Adam Now, I established it with my wife, and now I have to do it.

47:59 Drew Every Thursday. Is Thursday?

48:01 Adam Yeah, I gotta do it, and here's the problem, too. I ran out of steam last week because...

48:06 Drew Because it was after the Super Bowl.

48:07 Adam Well, not only that, yeah, I was scared. I was drunk. I had been bloated on chicken wings. I jumped up, you know, as soon as I... I pop up, right at the beginning. I said the dance. I think the beginning seemed longer than it ever had been because it was the All-Star one. And we've got 18. It was the first one, and they have 18 people. I'm used to three or four people, and it was really, it was 25, 30 minutes, as I recall.

48:32 Drew This was after the Super Bowl. You were still thinking about Janet Jackson.

48:35 Adam I was up, I was doing the dance, and then after like minute 26, I was clutching my side, and my wife was yelling, you gotta keep going, you gotta make it through the dance. When is this goddamn show gonna end? When is the, like, forget about the opening, well, it's gotta be over by now. Yeah, but they just had, everybody, all 18 contestants and what they've been doing, and really, you gotta factor that in. There are a lot of people who do the dance, and they don't need a 26-minute opening.

49:07 Jeff Probst Is that ever a good foreplay, that dance?

49:09 Adam Yeah, it's nice.

49:10 Drew Before he masturbates.

49:11 Adam You become like an animal.

49:12 Drew Basically, it's what he does before he has himself.

49:14 Adam It's the way birds do things, I think. Yeah, it's great, it's a slick move. All right, yeah, watch it, and then we come here.

49:22 Drew You watch it, beat off, then you come here?

49:25 Adam No, I don't, sometimes I beat off on the way here.

49:27 Drew Oh, okay. Well, I knew there was something in between us. I didn't know you did that, you didn't have to tell us that. That's disgusting.

49:33 Adam Michael?

49:33 Caller Hey, how's it going, guys?

49:35 Adam 26, what's up?

49:36 Caller All right, well, I've been married for about three years, I got one child, and I met this girl at my work, she just started working with us, and she's also married, and she has a child also. Just recently, we just started getting attracted to each other, and we started messing around around the office, things like that.

49:54 Adam Stop.

49:55 Drew Yeah, stop, don't even put yourself in situations where it could go further, God forbid it already has. But you are, listen, you're damaging the health and well-being of your wife, your child, her husband, and her child. Does that feel good? Is that something you want to do?

50:12 Caller No.

50:13 Drew No.

50:13 Adam Well, what do you mean screwing around around the office? How does that work?

50:18 Caller Well, you know, there's nobody around, there's like an empty office.

50:23 Drew What are you guys doing there alone?

50:25 Caller Oh, that's what we do. We just work alone and, you know, she's like 20, 20, 20 years old and man, it's, you know, it's exciting, it's, you know. You get the blood pumping. She's 20. Yeah.

50:40 Adam Wait, are you having sex with her in the office?

50:43 Caller No, no, not yet.

50:45 Adam What are you doing? Just making out?

50:48 Caller No, a little more than that.

50:49 Drew Uh-uh.

50:51 Adam Whirl sex?

50:51 Jeff Probst Something like that.

50:53 Drew Something like that. Tell us. Yes. Let me think.

50:57 Adam Let's flip over all the cards. Arlene Francis has a guess. Look, Ed, first off, what kind of work is this that you two just sit alone, unsupervised?

51:07 Caller Oh, man, I don't want to say over there, but we just were in the office and things like that.

51:12 Adam Yeah, I'm picturing more of one of those trailers with the blocks.

51:16 Caller No, nothing like that.

51:18 Adam Okay, all right.

51:19 Jeff Probst So you think just stop everything?

51:21 Drew Yeah, what do you think we'd say, Michael?

51:23 Adam It's not going to...

51:24 Caller Yeah, I think you would say just keep it on the down low.

51:28 Drew No, you're damaging your child, you're damaging her child. You've relinquished the option of screwing around when you have a kid. It's it, it's over. You've now lived out your days as an F-off. Now you've got to be a dad.

51:42 Adam How many kids do you have?

51:43 Caller I have one.

51:46 Adam All right. You should use some protection so you don't have two.

51:50 Caller Right.

51:51 Adam Okay, buddy.

51:56 Drew No, not with the, not with the hair.

51:58 Caller Who cares? Who cares?

52:00 Adam Listen everybody, ultimately you're all worried about not getting caught from the hell that you're creating called a life. Don't worry, you're right smack dab in the middle of it. Believe you me, do all the cheating you want, crank out all the kids you want, get away from all the, get away from your kids, move to Florida, do whatever the hell you want. Believe me, you're taking you with you. I just love this notion that I'm getting away from something. You're your only witness. If you never get caught by anyone ever, the worst person on the planet knows what you're doing and that's you.

52:34 Jeff Probst You gotta go to bed with yourself.

52:37 Adam I already did that.

52:38 Jeff Probst No.

52:38 Drew No, no, no, actually sleep, actually sleep. Not abuse yourself.

52:42 Adam Well, what's the buff for? Yes, yes.

52:45 Drew Wiping.

52:45 Adam Yes, Jeff is right. You have, you know, this sort of concept that, well, don't worry, I can go in and say some Hail Marys and God will forgive me or as long as my wife never finds out or my co-workers or my kid will never know is all this sort of, no one will ever know kind of thing. What do you mean no one? You know.

53:04 Drew Yeah.

53:04 Adam You're that person now.

53:06 Drew You gotta remember that they consider that a triumph. I got away with it. And not only that, when really push comes to shove, they don't care.

53:15 Adam Right.

53:15 Drew And that's a hideous reflection of people. And they don't care. They do sleep fine at night. And that's the awful part about it. And the people that are suffering is everyone else in their life.

53:25 Adam Yeah. Well, not only them, but what about us as a society who has to deal with these jackoffs kids? It's getting crappy dads everywhere.

53:33 Jeff Probst There's something messed up about the fact that it doesn't feel as good to be a man and say, you know what, I'm attracted to you, but I'm already married and I have a child. And that doesn't pay off. What's fun is to sneak around in the office and get a little and then go, I'm a hot guy and she's a hot girl.

53:50 Right.

53:50 Jeff Probst And when the real thing to do is to stand up and say, go back to your wife and you know.

53:55 Drew Yeah, so substance has been completely relinquished for gratification.

53:58 Right.

53:59 Adam It's like in lieu of doing 50 pushups and not having anyone find out, you'd rather just convince people around you that you did 50 pushups. This is a weird way to go through life.

54:11 Drew And then feel triumphant when you've succeeded.

54:13 Adam Yeah, you don't get the benefits of the exercise. You've just convinced those around you that you just peeled off 50 pushups.

54:19 Jeff Probst And the minute you start that lie, it is a slippery slope.

54:24 Adam Yeah, and by the way, I don't know how you're gonna stop screwing around with someone you're screwing around with when you have like your IQs in the 80s and you guys are left together alone at the impound lot to-

54:36 Drew That's part of the problem, but it's like drug addicts who say, I couldn't help myself. They lit up right in front of me. It's like you should never get yourself in those. You made 10 bad choices that put you in that room with the people with the crack pipe. Should never have made those choices.

54:50 Adam Charles?

54:51 Caller Yeah.

54:52 Adam You're 25?

54:53 Caller Oh, hey.

54:54 Adam Hey, what's happening?

54:56 Drew How's your body, Charles?

54:57 Caller I'm doing good. This is a, I want to say, Adam, you're great. I used to record episodes of The Man Show and keep them as, you know, collection. And Drew, you're awesome too. And I wanted to buy your book eventually and read it. And Jeff, Survivor is a really good show also.

55:12 Adam Have you bought one of the buffs, Charles?

55:15 Caller Not yet, I will though.

55:16 Adam Please, please do. You're like, you're eight behind by the way.

55:20 Drew I think I had to start including a buff with my book.

55:24 Caller My question is, is that the last couple of nights, I've heard you guys talk about kind of the older guys who have dated the younger girls. And I'm eight years sober from alcohol. And I recently started corresponding with a girl who was 18. And what happened was that I ended up moving out to her state to live with her. And she ended up ditching me in her state and taking off. And she comes from a very controlling and domineering family. And I was wondering, my question is that I tried everything I could do to be a good boyfriend to this girl and help out this girl. And I held down two different full-time jobs and supported her. And I'm wondering if, I'm sorry, I'm kind of nervous. Was I just scammed here?

56:18 Drew First of all, you showed incredibly poor judgment going to live with somebody you've never met.

56:25 Adam Yeah, I did.

56:26 Drew That is incredibly bizarre.

56:28 Adam And a certain degree of desperation. And we can hear it in your voice.

56:32 Drew But secondly, in spite of you recovering from alcoholism, and I wonder how dedicated you are to your recovery, how much of a priority recovery is in your life. Do you still go to meetings on a regular basis? Do you still contact your sponsor regularly?

56:46 Caller Well, when I moved out there, I actually got a home group, a meeting home group and actually got a sponsor. And the funny thing is, is all the recovery people I met out there who knew about this relationship were shaking their heads at me going, what in the hell are you doing?

57:01 Drew Right, and that means you weren't practicing a program of recovery, you're marching to your own drum or doing whatever. But here's the only way you can change it, is by maybe doing some codependency recovery, getting an Al-Anon meeting going. Because really this is all about your codependency and yourself coming from a disrupted, fractured, alcoholic.

57:16 Adam Well, here's what's going on too, is you're dealing with a troubled person, this 18 year old. The whole part where she's alluring is the exciting part of the whole thing. Once you come out there and she finds out you're a nice guy, it's game over. Yeah, there's no thrill in it for her, so that's it. You're much too nice a guy. I can hear it in your voice, nice slash needy slash desperate. You're putting the screws to her, what's wrong? What can I do for you? How can I be better?

57:41 Drew How can I get another job?

57:43 Adam She can't handle intimacy and you're trying to force intimacy on her and therefore it's over.

57:48 Drew Yeah, it's not gonna work.

57:49 Adam So you need to move back to whatever state you came from, which was what state?

57:53 Drew Start.

57:54 Caller Well, I'm back in my home state now.

57:56 Drew What state did you go to, Florida? Texas. Texas. No, he was on the way there.

58:01 Adam All right. And now you're back and this is a water under the bridge. Chalk this up to experience.

58:08 Drew Start listening to direction from your peers in recovery and go to some Al-Anon meetings. Your mom must have been an alcoholic or something, right?

58:14 Caller Yeah, actually, you're right.

58:16 Drew So that's what creates this behavior.

58:18 Adam And it's not, and here's an interesting point we gotta get into. We gotta give everyone a booster shot on this all the time. Guys always say, what's so wrong with being a nice guy? It's not a nice guy. It's a needy guy. And there's a difference between telling someone they look nice and opening a car door and closing it behind them and somebody who feels like they need some of you on them and something like you guys got thrown a Cuisinart together made into the same smoothie.

58:49 Drew Right, right.

58:49 Adam And when women feel you needing something from them, especially ones that have a little difficulty with intimacy, and I'm guessing the 18-year-old who's corresponding with a guy in another state and inviting him out to a crash on her sofa has those issues. They freak and they're out. And then the nicer you are, the further out they are. But don't think of it as nice. Think of it as needy. And then you can correct it because why should you correct being a nice guy? It's like all these a-holes that go, hey, I'm the kind of person who will tell you what he feels. You know, I'm up front. I'll look in the eye and I'll speak the truth. A lot of people can't handle that.

59:24 Drew No, you're an asshole.

59:25 Adam No, you're an asshole. That's why people don't like, it's not that we can't handle it, it's just your colossal a-hole and we don't want to talk to you. But again, if you take whatever your foibles are.

59:34 Drew It reminds me of Alicia on Survivor.

59:35 Adam Yeah.

59:36 Drew She's exactly one of those people. I'm just straightforward. I was like, hey, whoa, I can't stand you already. Relax. It's too much.

59:42 Adam Anybody gives you the speech about the kind of person they are, even if it's that I enjoy wearing a collar but rolling up my sleeves a-hole. Like whatever the guy, you know, it sounds like some cologne should be named after them because of, you know, they give you that long list of the kind of person they are. I immediately don't like. Unless it's self-deprecating. Like I'm the kind of guy that likes to nap.

1:00:05 Drew Period.

1:00:06 Adam Yes. And unless you can hang with a guy who's gonna be napping a lot, we got nothing to talk about. Yeah, because I'll look you in the eye and tell you it's nap time. I'll get in your face and tell you when I'm overdue for a nap.

1:00:20 Drew Let's take another Germany or Florida.

1:00:22 Yeah?

1:00:22 Adam Yeah.

1:00:22 All right.

1:00:24 Adam And we're on a roll with this early on in the Germany or Florida. And this, Jeff, could be your next hosting game.

1:00:31 Okay.

1:00:31 Adam Germany or Florida.

1:00:33 Jeff Probst I'm down with that.

1:00:34 Adam There's also something I've been working on called Paintball Karaoke.

1:00:40 Jeff Probst So you shoot at people while they're singing karaoke.

1:00:45 Adam And celebrity paintball karaoke.

1:00:47 Drew What determines whether you get shot?

1:00:49 Adam Here's how the game works.

1:00:50 Jeff Probst It's like the Gong Show sort of.

1:00:52 Adam No, yes, sort of.

1:00:53 Drew Go.

1:00:54 Adam Here's the deal. You're getting shot at constantly. Your job.

1:01:00 Drew You're diving and jumping behind stuff.

1:01:02 Adam Well, this is it.

1:01:03 Drew And singing.

1:01:04 Adam But the choreography. You see what I'm saying?

1:01:06 Drew You have to carry out some preordained choreographic.

1:01:09 Adam Yeah, let's just say the set could keep changing. I mean, the shooting gallery part.

1:01:13 Drew Sometimes it's Swan Lake.

1:01:15 Adam Could be an Old Western bar.

1:01:16 Drew Sometimes it's Oklahoma.

1:01:18 Adam Could be a plywood cactus. Stagecoach. It's there. Now I'm singing my song. The idea is to work my evasive maneuvers into the choreography of the song. So you don't want to get herky-jerky or duck. You want to move. And if you do have to move or change direction, you got to work it in. Plus now super high points for a guy who's hitting the high note, you know, like my way or something. Again, get shot in the larynx. Doesn't crack. You know what I mean?

1:01:47 Drew So taking a shot and holding the note, it's a good thing.

1:01:50 Adam But here's the strategy. There's two strategies.

1:01:52 Drew You have to wait to take a shot.

1:01:53 Adam I could either avoid every shot and pull it off seamlessly, or I could stand there and just take shots and never crack a note. Paintball, karaoke, celebrity paintball.

1:02:03 Jeff Probst And then you have what, three judges that are judging the degree of difficulty.

1:02:06 Adam They're shooting and judging.

1:02:07 Drew You bring in Paula Abdul and Simon.

1:02:09 Adam This, yeah.

1:02:10 Drew Right? And like Patty Jackson too.

1:02:12 Adam Just as people are shooting stuff. Back at Ted Nugent, Paula Abdul, and they all just shoot at people while they're singing. First off, it's a huge.

1:02:22 Drew Well, they do the shooting too, I see.

1:02:24 Adam You're judging and shooting. Celebrity shooting, yeah. We've got to work this out. But here's what I always say. Everyone calls me an a-hole, my partners, when I pitch them this. But they go, I always say, who's switching that off? You know, like when you say, next up on celebrity paintball karaoke, what are you going to, I've had an ass full of this. No, you got to watch this. You got to see who wins. And then there's controversy. People are outraged. It's all over the newspapers. They're picketing. This is, this is, this is usual. And what's this show cost to produce? It's a nickel. You gang tape them. You crank them out. You do like five episodes in an afternoon. There's people, you know, how many people does American Idol get to try? You know, you get the same idiots. All they do is sign a waiver. It's done. It's paintball karaoke. We could film it at my house. You see what I'm saying?

1:03:15 Jeff Probst I want to be a judge. I want to be a shooter.

1:03:17 Adam You'd be a celebrity shooter.

1:03:18 Jeff Probst And who do you want to shoot more than somebody who's karaoke?

1:03:21 Adam This is how many times have you been at Dimples over there in Burbank, wishing you had a pistol?

1:03:26 Drew There's an interesting piece to it. If somebody actually does sing well, you might hold back a little bit. You might hold your gun up.

1:03:32 Jeff Probst You might delay it for a little bit.

1:03:33 Drew Yeah, you might delay it and then you're still gonna shoot them.

1:03:36 Caller Slowly lower the gun.

1:03:38 Drew Yeah, see what they can take.

1:03:39 Adam There'll also be a speed round where there's pistol whipping involved, where you actually just have to charge them and everyone just physically kicks and beats them with the butt of the rifle.

1:03:50 Drew It's good times.

1:03:51 Adam Paintball karaoke. Drew, come on, please.

1:03:54 Jeff Probst I can name that in six notes. Maybe there's a, there might be another beat in there. I can do something in six shots.

1:04:01 Adam Whatever it is.

1:04:01 Drew Paintball, paintball, name that tune.

1:04:05 Adam I always liked to name that tune where it would get down to a note. Like the guy just hold the saxophone. And the guy, the guy go, theme to Bridge Over River Quad. Yes.

1:04:18 Jeff Probst Like what the hell?

1:04:19 Adam It had the live orchestra on that show, Drew. All right, where are we going?

1:04:23 Drew We're going to Germany or Florida.

1:04:25 Adam Oh yeah, okay. Germany or Florida. That's all right, hold on, okay.

1:04:29 Nate? Yeah.

1:04:30 Adam You're 18.

1:04:31 Caller Yeah, all right. All right, here we go. There are, I read about there are plans to put together a Christian-sponsored nudist resort, which would include everything from nude volleyball to nude water slides and probably nude church too.

1:04:46 Drew Germany or Florida?

1:04:47 Caller Yeah.

1:04:49 Drew Ooh, it's got little elements of both there. It's got a nice Southern Baptist quality to it. But then it's...

1:04:56 Adam The nudist part, believe it or not, feels German to me.

1:04:59 Drew The nudist and the frolicking sounds German.

1:05:02 Adam Yeah, they love the frolicking. It may be a German word.

1:05:04 Drew All right, German.

1:05:07 Adam No, I'm going Florida.

1:05:08 Jeff Probst Yeah, I'm going Florida.

1:05:10 Caller Yeah, you're right, Florida.

1:05:12 Adam Yeah.

1:05:13 Caller Yeah.

1:05:14 Adam I heard this story about two weeks ago. But that's all right. Jeff didn't. Point is, he's right. All right, we're gonna send you out a buff.

1:05:22 Drew Or an animal DVD.

1:05:23 Adam Or an animal DVD.

1:05:25 Drew All right, there we go.

1:05:27 Adam Or my T-shirt with the bullseye on it that says... I did paintball karaoke and all I got was this crappy T-shirt. Yeah.

1:05:35 Jeff Probst What about having the, for the audience, what about having the pimple poppers just coming through instead of selling cigars that just pop a pimple?

1:05:42 Adam I'm telling you, that's another show we could do. It's just colossal zit popping. And then celebrity zit popping.

1:05:49 Jeff Probst Who would turn that off?

1:05:50 Adam I couldn't, you couldn't avert your stare, your gaze. You would have to.

1:05:55 Drew I'm getting nauseous just thinking about this.

1:05:57 Adam I know, it's not nice to think about, but could you turn away from an all zit popping channel?

1:06:01 Drew Oh yes, I could.

1:06:02 Jeff Probst And imagine that in HD.

1:06:05 Drew Yeah, no problem.

1:06:06 Adam You could?

1:06:06 Drew Yeah, no problem.

1:06:07 Adam Not me, not me. As you know, I'm a self lancer.

1:06:11 Drew I know you are. I see a lot of good stuff during the day.

1:06:13 Adam Drew doesn't like that. You see enough of that. Yeah. You get enough? Do you do any lancing?

1:06:16 Drew Oh yeah.

1:06:17 Adam You do?

1:06:17 Drew Oh yeah.

1:06:18 Jeff Probst Oh, that's nice.

1:06:19 Adam Do you have a lancer? Is there a special thing you use? It's not just a pen.

1:06:22 Drew Just a scalpel.

1:06:23 Adam Just a scalpel? Regular scalpel?

1:06:25 Drew A skin one.

1:06:26 Adam What's a skin one look like?

1:06:27 Drew They're pointy at the tip.

1:06:29 Adam Oh, so like an X-Acto?

1:06:30 Drew Yeah. Mm-hmm.

1:06:31 Jeff Probst What is a boil? We had a guy in Africa, Big Tom, had a boil the size of his neck that they finally lanced.

1:06:37 Drew Just an abscess. But what's in it? Pus.

1:06:41 Adam I love Big Tom, by the way.

1:06:42 Drew It's just an abscess cavity filled with white cells, inflammatory debris and bacteria, usually anaerobic bacteria.

1:06:49 Adam It just keeps growing, right?

1:06:50 Drew It keeps growing, yeah, it's an abscess.

1:06:52 Adam Now, how does the, oh man, a gazillion survivor questions.

1:06:58 Drew Your body walls it off, that's why it forms, and then it just keeps.

1:07:02 Jeff Probst So what kills it? You glance at it and then put something down there.

1:07:06 Drew First, you have to take out all the stuff because it's stuck there, it's in a cavity. And you get it out, then you start using antibiotics. The antibiotics can't get into the cavity. That's part of the problem, so you gotta take it out.

1:07:16 Adam Alright, I have questions now, I have more survivor questions. You have the survivor camp. Obviously the crew and the film crew and other folks have to be in proximity of the camp. Is their camp, do they have their own camp, which is right by there? Obviously they work in shifts, like the cameras go all through the night. Is there cameras there 24 hours, by the way?

1:07:38 Jeff Probst And the camera crew has a camp that is outside of the camp the survivors live on. That's not a production crew. We have 300 people that are somewhere else, but the small little two camera crews and the producers, and they're just off a couple hundred feet and they'll sleep, they'll sleep, and then some of the APs, our associate producers, will be out there with little digicams, so we're shooting them all the time.

1:08:02 Adam And so is there a guy who has that shift from 3 a.m. till sunrise or 12 to sunrise where many nights he's just sitting there watching nine people sleep?

1:08:18 Jeff Probst No, if we were going to miss something in the middle of the night, it would be when, you would. Because if you're all asleep...

1:08:24 Drew They could fall asleep too, right?

1:08:25 Jeff Probst Well, I don't know if it's that, but they'll just, you know, they may turn the cameras off and just sit there, and then suddenly somebody starts whispering, we might be a beat behind, but for the most part, we don't miss anything. I mean, we're on it pretty damn fast. And those guys, our shooters, are making editorial decisions themselves. An argument starts happening while a conversation is going on over here, and they've got to figure out who do I cover and which is going to be the story. So there's a lot of autonomy, a lot of people just working on their own, making calls.

1:08:55 Adam By the way, cameramen, guys never get credit. I've worked with cameramen who, you know, shooting in New Orleans on Bourbon Street. They got a 60-pound camera on their shoulder and they're just running after you, filming. People are pissing them. People are shoving them. You know, I mean, it's a real sort of lumberjack kind of job that people don't really, if you're doing a good job, they don't even know there's a camera there. I mean, when you're at home, watching, these are studs.

1:09:21 Jeff Probst Think about on Survivor, all the bug bites they get on these beaches, our cameramen have the same bug bites.

1:09:27 Drew Do the camera guys develop some sort of relationship with the people they're filming, or do they have to figure out a way to be sort of non-entities?

1:09:35 Jeff Probst In theory, they don't talk to them. They do not talk to them.

1:09:37 Drew Are they not allowed to speak?

1:09:39 Jeff Probst Right.

1:09:39 Drew Not allowed to speak.

1:09:40 Jeff Probst Not allowed to speak. And in theory, you shouldn't have a relationship. It's impossible.

1:09:44 Drew Right. You're here when you're there.

1:09:46 Jeff Probst And you're seeing these people sometimes at very low points when they're giving you an interview and they're saying, we have some people this season, there's a couple of times where a couple of people say, I want out of here. This is the hardest thing I've ever done. So you see them at this low point and I think the survivors develop a relationship with a camera person, an intimacy that's kind of odd because they don't really ever speak to each other.

1:10:08 Adam It'd be easy to fall in love with one of your subjects too if you're a cameraman and they're prancing around naked.

1:10:16 Drew Well, also, I'm surprised there's not more romantic relationship in these very intense situations. People get thrust into those situations and that's almost a natural kind of an instinct to get involved.

1:10:26 Jeff Probst Well, and after the show there is.

1:10:28 Drew After the show, yeah. They get involved.

1:10:30 Jeff Probst I think it's hard within the show.

1:10:32 Drew Because of the, what's at stake.

1:10:33 Jeff Probst What's at stake, yeah, and the fact that you're so in the show you can't ever stop. The one thing the survivors will tell you is the hardest part is you never stop thinking is Adam my friend or not? Is he screwing? Why is he talking to Drew? What's going on? 24-7 for 39 days. And afterwards, though, we have these little finale parties.

1:10:54 Jeff Probst Oh, man.

1:10:54 Jeff Probst It's man, it is sexual around. Just combustion.

1:10:58 Adam Plus, the ladies, they don't trim down there.

1:11:02 Jeff Probst So the guys are a little freaked out.

1:11:05 Adam Yeah. I really do think there's an out like you would think everyone just be humping the bejesus out of each other. But I'm telling you, women, if they don't feel fresh, aren't into it. Oftentimes.

1:11:16 Jeff Probst Yeah, I think it's women because all the guys will tell you, you know what, you're not thinking about sex. But let me tell you, if there was a woman out there who wanted to give you sex or please you, you're going to be fine. Of course.

1:11:27 Adam Of course. Yeah.

1:11:28 Jeff Probst Speaking of which, we got to take a break. What's going on?

1:11:31 Adam I got to, I got to, so, so what do you say? I got, I got, I got, I got. The camera crews got their own camp. They're nearish by. They're on, you know, they're 24-7. Your headquarters for all the, all the many people that work on the show is usually what distance away?

1:11:50 Jeff Probst It depends where we're at, you know, in the, in Panama, we're on our own island, just a huge island.

1:11:55 Adam And did you guys just come in there like, like, it's, is that where this stuff is?

1:11:59 Jeff Probst Yeah.

1:12:00 Adam You become like the, you know, Army Corps of Engineers, you just set up, you bivouac, you make a big community.

1:12:06 Jeff Probst Yes. This place was already existed. There was almost like a third world, it seemed like a drug laundering sort of resort. It hadn't been tended to in a long time, but in Africa, for instance, everybody's in tents. It's completely flat, so we were miles and miles away because they would see us or hear us if we were close. But we had our own tent city where we just built 400 tents and we brought porta potties and porta showers.

1:12:30 Adam What an opportunity to travel and see the world in these great locations.

1:12:35 Drew How big are the medical teams you're bringing? That's the thing I keep thinking of, just this huge, huge exposure to things.

1:12:40 Jeff Probst Yeah, two doctors, three paramedics, three nurses.

1:12:43 Drew Tropical illnesses are bad times.

1:12:46 Jeff Probst Well, most of our action for the doctors comes from the crew. Yeah, a lot of injuries and a lot of... In Thailand, we had these bugs that would bite you and then burrow in. And they started excavating them. And the bug is in there. And there are these, like, alien-looking creatures.

1:13:05 Drew Yes, yes, with worms and stuff.

1:13:06 Jeff Probst Ah, it's amazing.

1:13:07 Drew They form huge boils. Yes.

1:13:09 Jeff Probst And then the boil is big and then you dig down two inches.

1:13:12 Drew You have to get down there, yeah.

1:13:14 Adam Oh, see, this is, I would freak. I would freak on that part.

1:13:19 Drew But, see, the point is, that's easy stuff. There's horrible stuff people can get in this tropical.

1:13:25 Jeff Probst Well, you know what else happens is locals discover we're there. Like in the Amazon, there was a kid who accidentally got shot in the face with a shotgun, blew his eye completely out, but he would have died. And this boat paddles up and they know there are some big group of people here. And our doctors go down and take care of him and fly him in. We get him on our helicopter and fly him into town.

1:13:50 Adam That's not going to happen in Paintball Karaoke, by the way.

1:13:52 Jeff Probst No, it could. It would be great if it did.

1:13:54 Adam The trainings and then they sign the waiver. All right. Jeff Probst is here from Survivor. We'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back. Hello. 1-LO- There, buddy, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Jeff Probst is here tonight from Survivor.

1:14:35 Jeff Probst Contributing so much.

1:14:36 Adam Drew, well, we can screw with kids all we want. The point is, is you're here giving us the inside dirt, the skinning, telling us what's going on behind the scenes, and if you say-

1:14:47 Jeff Probst I'm saying this, Adam.

1:14:49 Adam Yes.

1:14:50 Jeff Probst Killer episodes, not this week, but this week is good.

1:14:54 Adam Right.

1:14:55 Jeff Probst But week three.

1:14:56 Drew Watch out.

1:14:57 Jeff Probst And week six.

1:14:59 Drew Oh, really?

1:14:59 Adam A week three and week six, okay. I'm gonna watch all of them anyway, but I'm gonna do my survivor dance. Oh, hey, ho.

1:15:08 Jeff Probst But-

1:15:09 Drew Special dances on three and six.

1:15:11 Adam Yeah, because I think that's something that Jeff was alluding to, is that there's some love found in upcoming episodes, which was a-

1:15:18 Drew He also did some crazy ass goes down.

1:15:20 Adam And crazy stuff, which is good, because it is as compelling as the show is, there's really not that much in the love affair department, in the physical confrontation department. I mean, there's some shouting matches and stuff. You would assume that guys would be kicking the ass out of people, and there might be a rape or two.

1:15:47 Jeff Probst I don't know why there hasn't been a fight.

1:15:49 Adam Yeah, I mean, they're really, you know, first off, anyone who follows movies at all knows that when people get in these stressful situations, like in Red Dawn, when the Russian paratroopers landed, even the best friends, they go up the hills, they start into that.

1:16:04 Caller Hey, man, you're not my long-term friend.

1:16:06 Adam And they do this one. You're not the captain of the team anymore. Okay, man, and then they start fighting.

1:16:11 Drew But these guys know they're going to have to watch their behavior, and they're playing a game. They want to make sure they're not eliminated for some reason.

1:16:17 Jeff Probst And if you hit somebody, you're out.

1:16:18 Drew Oh, is that right?

1:16:19 Jeff Probst There's only two rules, you cannot hit somebody and you can't conspire to share the money.

1:16:24 Drew But you can rape. You can rape, that's okay.

1:16:26 Jeff Probst Yeah, that appears to be okay.

1:16:27 Adam Yeah, yeah, that's a technique. I didn't know the rape technicality. But so you would think, and again, this is, it's amazing that the show's incredibly compelling, really just within the parameters of the show. Like many shows are like, well, here's what we say the show's gonna be, but it turns out in a real world, we say it's about young people, it just turns into a big hump fest and everyone yelling at each other, and that becomes the show. And then the real worlds that don't have that are the boring ones. This doesn't need it. I mean, this is sort of, it's a difference between hockey and football. No fights in hockey, that's a crappy hockey game.

1:17:10 Drew Right, right.

1:17:10 Adam Football, no fights, no penalties, fine.

1:17:13 Drew Good game.

1:17:14 Adam Thank you, Drew.

1:17:14 Drew There you go.

1:17:15 Adam Thank you. All right, buddy.

1:17:18 Drew Linnea?

1:17:19 Adam Linnea?

1:17:20 Caller Yeah.

1:17:20 Adam You're 19? What's up?

1:17:24 Caller I am called, I was calling because every time I give my boyfriend a blood job, I kind of throw up.

1:17:33 Drew Kind of throw up?

1:17:34 Adam Mm-hmm.

1:17:35 Jeff Probst Gag or throw up?

1:17:37 Drew And at what point in the...

1:17:39 Caller When he ejaculates.

1:17:41 Adam Oh, all right. So he's not concerned about it. And do you do it... That's another thing I could use that survivor buff for.

1:17:50 Drew What does the guy do when she's vomiting mid-ejaculation?

1:17:54 Jeff Probst Yeah, that would bother me.

1:17:55 Drew Would he be like, Hold on one second, one second.

1:17:58 Adam We got to change here. To me, it's like, now we're moving to the, we're doing this in the shower now. You know, that's me. I got to stand up. I got to hang on to a towel.

1:18:07 Drew What, Linnea? That's what you're doing now. I know you love your boyfriend very much, but this is showing an awful lot of commitment. Why don't you not do the part of the action that makes you vomit?

1:18:21 Caller I think it's, well, I don't really know why I do.

1:18:25 Drew Well, just the thought makes me want to vomit. So, you know, we can understand.

1:18:29 Caller Well, I also was forced to give a guy a blood job about six months ago.

1:18:33 Drew Forced, in a rape or something? Why don't you stop this behavior altogether?

1:18:38 Adam No, and Drew, it wasn't a rape. It was a beautiful, consensual, love-making act where he forced her to give her a BJ. Of course it's rape.

1:18:45 Drew Well, I don't know if it was a boyfriend, you know, sort of beat her down to the point where she gave in to something she didn't want to do, or was it actually... Some guy that held her at gunpoint. I mean, I don't know what the situation is.

1:18:56 Adam Well, here's the deal with Linnea, if that in fact is her name. There's something going on with her. Issues. I can hear her voice.

1:19:03 Drew I know, to me, it's just she's reenacting the trauma over and over again and having this huge reaction to it every time.

1:19:07 Adam Yeah, but you tapped in her voice. Did you tap in her voice?

1:19:10 Drew A little bit, a little bit.

1:19:11 Adam Not so much in the little girl voice, but just.

1:19:13 Drew Recent trauma, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

1:19:15 Adam But there's something going on with her. And as unfortunate as this sounds, and it really sounds horrible, but the women that become rape victims, and not all of them, but the ones that call this show, certainly, and I'm starting to think a greater portion of victims in society that become victims as adults were victimized at a younger age. Yeah, and it's not just some way. It's usually sort of correlated to the sexual victimization that takes place as adult Linnea. So what was it like growing up?

1:19:50 Jeff Probst Everything good?

1:19:51 Caller I was molested when I was six years old and I was raped by my dad when I was 13.

1:19:55 Adam Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

1:19:58 Drew So any sex would have very, very heavy feelings associated with it?

1:20:02 Caller Not with my boyfriend. That's the thing.

1:20:04 Drew Other than the vomiting part? Only the vomiting part, yes. And your voice, there's a funny, funny lilt to it.

1:20:11 Adam It's sexual abuse at six.

1:20:14 Drew Look, well she knows that's what happened. But why don't you stop doing the blow jobs? I mean, it's not, it's not Drew's place. I know, but it's very, very powerfully unpleasant for her.

1:20:24 Adam Yeah, how about that, Linnea? Okay, your dad sexually abused you, did you say? He raped you, when, who did this, that was at 13 or something?

1:20:38 Drew Why do you put that under the category of rape as opposed to sexual abuse?

1:20:42 Caller Cause I had sex with him.

1:20:44 Drew Say it again? He what?

1:20:46 Caller He had sex with me when I was 13.

1:20:48 Drew We would call that sexual abuse.

1:20:49 Adam All right, but I, let's not argue over semantics here.

1:20:54 Drew Did he threaten harm to you? Did he threaten bodily harm, that sort of thing?

1:21:01 Adam Where's your dad now, by the way? It'd be nice if he was dead.

1:21:04 Caller Where is he? He's in Oregon.

1:21:06 Adam He's in Oregon? What's he do? Workaround metal?

1:21:11 Jeff Probst Forklift?

1:21:12 Adam What's he do?

1:21:12 Caller Well, he's a drug addict.

1:21:14 Jeff Probst That's perfect.

1:21:15 Adam All right, so listen, Linnea.

1:21:17 Jeff Probst Well, what was this six months ago?

1:21:19 Drew The rape? Or forced beef?

1:21:21 Caller I met some guy online and he forced me to give him a blood job.

1:21:26 Adam Did you see that?

1:21:27 Drew She just reenacts these traumas over and over and over again. Stop, Linnea, please get some treatment, please.

1:21:31 Adam Can you get treatment? Why don't you do that? Okay, listen to me. I'm a genius. You understand that, right? Mm-hmm. You people don't need to be smart. You just need to be smart enough to understand I'm a genius.

1:21:43 Drew Just to follow the directions.

1:21:44 Adam And I'm never wrong. Drew, am I ever wrong?

1:21:45 Drew Never.

1:21:46 Adam Except for about the tainted water thing, which is merely speculation.

1:21:50 Drew Yeah, but it's gonna be right because he's gonna create a show around that.

1:21:52 Adam And then he will eventually make me right.

1:21:54 Drew He was so right, he wished he had done it.

1:21:55 Adam Right, like something that doesn't exist but gets invented at some point, making me right. Here's the thing. You are horribly victimized by your father and whoever else. And the worst part of this crime is that you, is the legacy. You continue to be a victim.

1:22:13 Drew You continue to act it out. Yeah, you continue to recreate that trauma in all of your relationships.

1:22:17 Adam And this will not be the first or last time you're victimized, raped, or forced to do something you don't wanna do sexually. This is gonna be a life for you. Your dad got you started in going down this path and it's a path you will continue to go down, unfortunately. I don't know what that is in the human mind that compels people to do that, but we've been here long enough to understand that it's almost a given that this happens, right?

1:22:42 Drew Absolutely.

1:22:42 Jeff Probst Okay, so you gotta get some therapy.

1:22:44 Adam You gotta straighten this out. I don't necessarily trust the guy you're with either. Yes?

1:22:49 Drew Yep, of course not.

1:22:51 Adam And the dad, I hope he just shoots himself over the bad rig or something, that the kind of like, I think it's a good idea to bang my daughter thing as a human being just means you need to die. I just, it just, there's not enough room. We don't have enough time to sort this out. We can't fix everything. And by the way, could you be more broken than humping your own daughter?

1:23:12 Drew Especially at 13.

1:23:14 Adam Yeah, at 13 and then I don't know, at 16. Just, you gotta go and just have some dignity and kill yourself, please. All of you.

1:23:22 Jeff Probst Where do you figure her mom is in this?

1:23:24 Adam Her mom was raped. Her mom was victimized.

1:23:26 Drew Her mom was victimized to sexual abuse in her childhood and probably also a drug addict.

1:23:30 Adam Yeah, now see, Linnea over here, God willing, will crank out a couple of kids not getting any help and find out that the guy who she decided to start the family with is having sexually abusing her kids.

1:23:42 Drew That's how that works.

1:23:42 Adam That always works this way. All right, and this is why we gotta get a little intervention. Thank God we have the government focusing on this.

1:23:48 Drew Oh yeah.

1:23:48 Jeff Probst Yeah.

1:23:48 Drew That's all they think about.

1:23:49 Jeff Probst That's all they think about.

1:23:51 Adam All right, we'll take a quick break. Jeff Probst here tonight from Survivor and we'll be right back after this.

1:24:17 Hey, everybody, it's Loveline.

1:24:18 Adam I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Jeff Probst on Here Tonight from Survivor. All right, week three and week six. Look out. And...

1:24:28 Drew And in order to really appreciate him, you have to watch Every Week In Between, too.

1:24:32 Adam Right.

1:24:32 Jeff Probst Definitely.

1:24:33 Adam Oh, listen, the worst Survivor episode is still better than the best episode of your second favorite show.

1:24:44 Drew The only thing I don't like about Survivor... Yes. I mean, the only thing I don't like about Survivor is the S it spawned.

1:24:53 Adam Yeah. Oh, the other bad knockoff shows.

1:24:56 Jeff Probst It did give birth to some real ugly babies.

1:24:58 Adam Yes. It was the first one through the door in the reality TV department. And yeah, it's all been downhill since then. Although I have enjoyed a surreal life. Even though it really has no rhyme or reason, I just I'm attracted to that show. And Jerry Manthe was on Surreal Life last season.

1:25:21 Jeff Probst And they did a good job casting at this time and they're telling good stories.

1:25:25 Adam Yeah, it's really, it's a, it has zero object other than it's just, it's just, it's sort of like a twinkie, which is it's not good. It's what it is.

1:25:39 Drew It's a twinkie.

1:25:40 Adam It's a twinkie, yeah. People like that. Actually, most things are starting to come that way, but yeah, that's what it is. But the Survivor, now that is, that is a, that is a pineapple upside down cake.

1:25:56 Drew Jeremy 20. That's just how.

1:25:58 Adam They don't get their due, the pineapple upside down cake.

1:26:01 Drew No, they're not good.

1:26:02 Adam Oh no, they're good. Oh Drew, now wait a minute.

1:26:05 Drew It's a pound cake with pineapple stuck on it.

1:26:07 Adam What's wrong with that?

1:26:08 Jeff Probst It's got a spot though in karaoke paintball. It definitely is pineapple upside down cake.

1:26:13 Drew Jeremy, what's up?

1:26:14 Caller I just had a quick question.

1:26:17 Caller My girlfriend always asks me why I like to go down on her.

1:26:21 Caller And I just, the only day I tell her is just, I don't know.

1:26:24 Caller I just do it, you know?

1:26:25 And I just wonder if you had an explanation.

1:26:28 Adam Well, you like to give her pleasure.

1:26:30 Drew I think that's most of the why.

1:26:31 Adam That's my line. I mean, that's what I said.

1:26:33 Drew Guys are invested in being sure that a woman has a good experience.

1:26:37 Jeff Probst You think that's all that is?

1:26:39 Drew Not all, but I think that's a big, big part of it.

1:26:41 Caller I think it's a big part.

1:26:42 Drew For guys that really like doing it and stuff, there are some guys that get a oral gratification out of it, too. They just, they like that whole, the whole quality of the relationship in that mode.

1:26:53 Adam There's some guys are, they're sort of like, I don't know, you know, like certain dogs dig? Certain guys dig, like the burrowers, you know? I've never been one of these guys, but I've hung out with a few guys. I like to get in there. That's the two-hand oral sex, where it's like you got the tongue, you got the hands going. It becomes a, you know, a gynecological. Yeah, it's sort of, imagine the exam they give you at like a Mexican airport when they pull you aside, like they want to make sure. And by the way, I always think of keistering stuff when I'm thinking about Survivor. I think I would have keistered some flint. I would have keistered like some fruit roll-ups. I would have brought some, I would have got some stuff in there, you know, through the anal.

1:27:33 Jeff Probst It's the only place we really don't check.

1:27:35 Adam I would have done that.

1:27:36 Drew Would that have been all-star move or illegal?

1:27:38 Jeff Probst Would have been, you know, it depends what you, what you probably.

1:27:43 Drew Matches, no problem.

1:27:44 Adam Like, listen everybody, good news and bad news. I have 11 mini Snickers bars. Okay, wait, stop celebrating. Now the bad news. I did not bring them. I did, well, yeah, no. Well, when you say fanny pack, fanny pack, now that was interesting. Both words are involved. That's right. Warmer, warmer your own fire, but not quite. Yeah, yeah. And I bet at a certain point there would still be passed around. But I did, I absolutely, I did think about, I thought about you got to keister some flint. That's what I was saying. Gotta get some fire going.

1:28:23 Drew Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I asked my wife that why someone didn't do that.

1:28:27 Adam Keister Zippo.

1:28:28 Drew Or even, you know, there are other orifices. Ladies have extra orifices and things. You can put some stuff in there. Mm-hmm.

1:28:34 Adam Yeah, no, I would. I'd do one of those long lighters that you use to do the fireplace. And these extendo ones. I have something I'm enamored with those. It's like, look, the flame comes out five inches from where your fingers. Wow. Look at that, everybody.

1:28:48 Jeff Probst Costco three pack.

1:28:49 Adam I could start a fire from five inches away. Yes, you could. Yeah, that's the one I would keister. That and, or even just a magnifying glass.

1:28:59 Jeff Probst That's what I thought.

1:29:01 Adam Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. All right. Let's.

1:29:03 Drew So those little ones you get through the little bubbles in the gumball machines.

1:29:07 Adam Yeah. That'd be enough maybe to start a fire.

1:29:10 Drew That's right.

1:29:11 Adam Mike? You're 21? What's up?

1:29:15 Caller Hey, how's it going? I have kind of like two questions that go with the same problem. I'm an actor, well, a struggling actor, I guess, is an cliche in California, but my career is starting to take flight and I'm not having a lot of time to spend with my girlfriend anymore. I'm on set between five to six days a week, working 17 hour days, so she doesn't see me a lot.

1:29:46 Adam First of all, that's a pretty demanding schedule for gay porn.

1:29:52 Drew If you're not doing a television series, you're doing a movie or something, it's gonna end in a few weeks.

1:29:57 Caller I'm on the OC, regularly.

1:30:00 Adam On the OC?

1:30:01 Caller Yeah, it's not adult porn or anything like that.

1:30:05 Drew Yeah, OC is C-Sort of, yeah.

1:30:07 Adam All right, so you're in 17 hour days on the set, and what are you?

1:30:12 Drew Yeah, but 12 hour of those are sitting on, speaking of Keister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why can't she come visit you there?

1:30:18 Adam So, and what are you, like a background beach guy, number nine, or which one are you?

1:30:23 Caller Pretty much, yeah. I'm a high school student, and I also, I'm on the soccer team. Right.

1:30:27 Adam That's a, that's a Kush gig, by the way.

1:30:30 Drew Why don't you have her visit you on the set?

1:30:32 Caller Or does he want to? I've had her come to set before on certain sets where they have like the live studio audience, but most of the time, it's a closed set, so she's not allowed.

1:30:44 Drew You don't have a trailer?

1:30:45 Caller No, I'm not that glorified.

1:30:48 Adam No, they just have the, they have the, We have like a holding tank, and then they, you know, they put the bagels on it. It's called Kraft Service. It's a folding, your place is by the peanut M&Ms.

1:30:59 Caller Yeah.

1:31:00 Drew Oh my God.

1:31:01 Jeff Probst Well, it sounds like the guy that's, this is a good out. I mean, now I've made it, you know, I've got other options out there. I'm hanging out on it.

1:31:07 Drew That's kind of what I was thinking he was up to. He's just, he's done with the relationship.

1:31:11 Adam I just kind of got the feeling he wanted to talk and brag about the fact that he's doing it the way they do it in the OC. Yeah.

1:31:18 Drew I think, I think he's concerned. I think he's more done than he realized with this relationship. And if he can't find a way to carve out a little time to spend with her, it sort of shows how uncommitted you are in the relationship. Your girlfriend's sensing that and she's right. You know, it's, you got to put a little priority. You got to choose your priorities and you've made your choice. And that's that. This relationship may not survive it. That's fine. You're 21. That's all right.

1:31:38 Adam Yeah. You move on. Beth? You're 21? You, your boyfriend just got out of the psych ward?

1:31:47 Caller Well, he's not really my boyfriend. I met him just a few days ago and like an idiot, I brought him home and we started talking and he told me that he got out of the psych ward and he was in there for trying to commit suicide.

1:32:07 Adam Yeah.

1:32:07 Drew Well, we got to get going here. So what's the question?

1:32:10 Caller I need to know how should I word it when I break up with him?

1:32:14 Drew Is he living with you?

1:32:17 Adam That's a lot easier.

1:32:19 Drew You just.

1:32:19 Adam You need to break up with him.

1:32:21 Drew Yeah. It's not working.

1:32:23 Jeff Probst But you're worried that because he just tried to commit suicide, he's going to be upset again?

1:32:27 Caller Yeah. I mean, he's 21. He's, he doesn't have a job.

1:32:36 Drew He may or may not be upset. He may or may not get depressed again when you tell him this. Yeah. If he starts threatening suicide, take it very seriously, call appropriate authorities, contact the team that's treating him. It's not, you can't be responsible for his well-being.

1:32:48 Adam We can use my line, Drew, which is, it's not you, it's me, I don't like you.

1:32:54 Drew Or in her case, I think you're weird.

1:32:56 Adam Yeah. Poor Sarah's been on hold for 130 minutes, which is a new Loveline record. Is it not, Drew?

1:33:03 Drew I believe it is.

1:33:04 Adam Sarah. We're gonna send you out of buff, but we're out of show.

1:33:09 Drew And she's in Kansas, too.

1:33:12 Adam Jeff's home state. Sarah. Oh, God bless you. 130 minutes, not an hour and a half.

1:33:19 Drew Once you guys take her phone number and call her back, we'll take her first thing tomorrow night.

1:33:24 Caller Really, are you done?

1:33:25 Adam Sorry, baby.

1:33:25 Drew We're out of time. Yeah, we'll spend some time with you tomorrow.

1:33:28 Adam Do you hear me, Anderson?

1:33:30 Caller Okay, that's fine.

1:33:31 Adam I kept wanting to go and talk to you. Jeff said no.

1:33:34 Drew It's gonna be one of the first slides you'll get a DVD tomorrow.

1:33:36 Caller I love listening to you guys, and I'm just sitting here listening, so.

1:33:39 Adam Well, thanks. Yeah, it's like a radio that you push up against your face for two and a half hours. All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.

1:33:48 Caller Alright guys, here's the deal.

1:33:49 Caller You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person?

1:33:53 Jeff Probst One call is all you need to make.

1:33:54 Caller Call the Dateline.

1:33:55 Drew 877-889-DATE.

1:33:58 Caller Call the Dateline.

1:34:19 Adam Well, that's the show everybody. Where does the time go? All these weeks looking forward to Jeff coming into the studio and it's pow! Pow, it's a blink of an eye, gone. Jeff, a delight.

1:34:33 Jeff Probst Likewise.

1:34:33 Adam Had a great time. Blast in here. You can, you live in town, right? Come back anytime you like.

1:34:40 Jeff Probst Right on, I will take you up on that.

1:34:42 Adam Survivor, Sunday, I'm sorry, Thursday nights. Thursday nights at eight o'clock on CBS, my favorite show. And look out for big number three and big number six.

1:34:56 Drew Scares me.

1:34:56 Adam But you gotta watch the ones in between, otherwise it won't make any sense.

1:35:00 Drew What did you say, I'm gonna cry number five?

1:35:01 Jeff Probst Three, you're gonna cry. Six, you're gonna go, what the hell just happened?

1:35:06 Drew Oh my God.

1:35:06 Adam That's great. And everyone, I'll do my dance.

1:35:10 Drew I gotta come to your house, Thursday night.

1:35:11 Adam All right, so until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.

1:35:20 Jeff Probst This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

1:36:11 Caller Get It On.

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