Monday, December 19, 2005

0:15🔗 Voiceover 1-800-LOVE-191 Love Line starts now.

0:21🔗 Voiceover With a week-o'-dag, that's what's happening this week. David Alan Grier all week long. Phone number one, a low energy that man. 1-800-LOVE-191, I'm Dr. Drew.

0:31🔗 He is the devil.

0:33🔗 Drew Beelzebub.

0:34🔗 Beelzebub, I'm here, Dr. Drew.

0:36🔗 Drew But he will take the form of David Alan Grier shortly this evening.

0:38🔗 Have a bad day.

0:39🔗 Drew Thank you, thank you. And he was in, Beelzebub was interested in talking about the holiday blues and this sort of thing, but I'm looking at the screen here, and I've got orgasm, climbing a rope in gym class, ejaculation, female ejaculation, threesome, trying to have a pregnant.

0:54🔗 This is a bad time of year because it's Christ's birthday. And I really come into it.

0:59🔗 Drew That's just bad for you. That's bad for you no matter what.

1:01🔗 I come into my own Halloween. That's really what I like to do here. Take the souls of young ones, as I always call it. Do we have any suicide calls, anything bad?

1:12🔗 Drew Anything good, good, bad?

1:14🔗 That's good for me.

1:15🔗 Drew Yes, good.

1:15🔗 What's bad for you is good for me.

1:16🔗 Drew Nice.

1:17🔗 By the way, thank you dear. Have a bad day.

1:19🔗 Drew Would you like to speak to Cindy who has orgasm climbing a rope?

1:26🔗 Well, that would mean she feels good.

1:28🔗 Drew I don't want to hear that.

1:29🔗 Someone who's lost a limb, perhaps, hit by a car.

1:31🔗 Drew Here's somebody trying to get back at a boyfriend car.

1:33🔗 Caller There we go. That's something I would like.

1:35🔗 Drew OK. Bethany, 17. Bethany. Hello.

1:40🔗 Caller Maybe she's trying to kill herself.

1:42🔗 Drew What's going on? David Angrier will be joining us soon tonight, but instead we have Beelzebub.

1:46🔗 Caller Beelzebub, evil.

1:47🔗 David Alan Grier Have a wonderful, wonderfully bad evening. I'm like your biggest fan. I've been listening since I was like 13.

1:53🔗 Drew Wow, that's great.

1:55🔗 Caller Let me check my roster. What's your last name, dear? I don't see you here yet. Well, I'll see you eventually.

2:00🔗 Caller Inhale.

2:01🔗 Drew What's that, Bethany?

2:02🔗 David Alan Grier My mom died in front of me when I was eight and a half.

2:05🔗 Drew Well, that's your doing. I mean, not you, Bethany, that's Beelzebub.

2:08🔗 Caller Oh, thank you.

2:09🔗 I thank you.

2:11🔗 David Alan Grier Like, we were talking and she just had a heart attack and died.

2:14🔗 Caller Wow.

2:15🔗 Drew Oh my goodness. Oh, how awful.

2:17🔗 David Alan Grier And like, how old were you? I was eight and a half.

2:20🔗 Drew How old was she?

2:21🔗 David Alan Grier She was 42.

2:23🔗 Drew You sure it wasn't like a brain hemorrhage or something?

2:25🔗 David Alan Grier Well, no, cause like she started breathing, like hyperventilating. And then like, I didn't know what to do. So like I called my babysitter and they came over and like ran over there. Cause this was like a little small rinky-dink town and so I don't know what to do. My stepdaddy, he was at work. He worked at a plant for actually Polaris up in Minnesota. And so they came over and we called 911 and they got her back too. And then she went into another heart attack. And apparently what happened was she had, she had, remember she had a heart condition. She was sick for a really long time. She had like on like 13 different medications. I mean, I remember she had like all medicine and everything.

3:07🔗 Drew Okay, okay. That makes more sense.

3:09🔗 Caller Enough with the good news. Let's get to the question.

3:10🔗 David Alan Grier So then I had to go live and move, to live with my real dad and my step mom.

3:15🔗 Drew Oh my.

3:16🔗 David Alan Grier And yeah, I had never met this man in my life. I've never heard his voice. I've only seen one picture of him and I would get a Christmas card every year on my birthday and at Christmas. And that's all I would hear from him.

3:28🔗 Drew And now is your parent?

3:30🔗 Caller Yes.

3:31🔗 Drew Okay, so what's happening today? What's happening now? We've got the background. It's set up for Good Story for Dells Above.

3:36🔗 Caller It's already been a good story.

3:38🔗 David Alan Grier Well, my stepmom did not like kids, never wanted kids.

3:42🔗 Drew Okay, but no, no, I got enough background to know the kinds of choices you're going to make. So, tell me about you, Ray, a whole boyfriend.

3:49🔗 David Alan Grier Yes, yes.

3:51🔗 Drew Tell me about him.

3:52🔗 David Alan Grier Well, what happened was he was my first boyfriend. I fell in love with him. After three months, he asked me to marry me.

3:59🔗 Drew How old is he?

4:00🔗 David Alan Grier He's 18. He's 11.

4:02🔗 Drew We pray to God. I mean, I mean, sorry, y'all, I beg your pardon.

4:05🔗 Caller Don't you ever.

4:06🔗 Drew But we hope that you said no.

4:09🔗 David Alan Grier No.

4:09🔗 Drew You said yes.

4:10🔗 Caller No, you said no. Or no, you said yes. Or yes, you said no. Or no, you said yes to no.

4:15🔗 David Alan Grier You know, here I am and I had a horrible home life. Parents emotionally, physically abusive. I was in drugs. I'm turned out to be a diagnosed manic depressive, bipolar, multiple personality. And on almost every, you know, and I really have, do you really have multiple? Yeah. Who was speaking with her now? The school who, cause I was failing all my classes and they thought it was because, you know, all like I wasn't smart enough and everything. Turns out I was above average in IQ intelligence and I was just getting bored with the stuff and they wouldn't believe me.

4:53🔗 Drew What does that have to do with MPD?

4:56🔗 David Alan Grier A-gaming, a psychology, all those psychology tests and everything and to find out why I was flunking and it turns out that they said that I have multiple personality.

5:06🔗 Drew Yeah, we have dissociative identity disorder. Anyway, okay, what's going on now? It's the boyfriend, it's an A-hole that you agreed to marry, what's he done? Sounds good so far.

5:15🔗 David Alan Grier I keep wanting to, like, I can't get over him and like I'm like right now I think I'm pregnant. I know I'm not pregnant but I've been having like phantom pregnant and like I've been like my arm, my wrist and my arms like all tore up and everything like that because I can't get over him. I want to get over him. I want to get over him in real life but I can't.

5:35🔗 Drew You've been cutting?

5:37🔗 David Alan Grier Yes.

5:38🔗 Drew Pretty good. You need to get back in proper care, in psychiatric care or psychology. You need to though.

5:43🔗 David Alan Grier My parents won't pay for it and if my parents find out, they're just gonna ship me off somewhere.

5:49🔗 Caller How old are you?

5:50🔗 David Alan Grier I mean I've been a heavy tool cutter, I mean I have scars over me. I've been heavy truly cutting for like five years now.

5:57🔗 Drew Well look, here's the reality Bethany, you've got extremely serious psychiatric problems.

6:03🔗 Caller Nothing wrong with that.

6:04🔗 Drew Two minutes on the radio is gonna do nothing except encourage you to take care of it. This guy is in a hole, he really isn't the problem. The problem is the sort of the neurology that gets you stuck with these things and the psychology of that. And there are people that can help you with that. You're 17, go to a county facility, look for a county mental health facility and go in and ask for help.

6:23🔗 Caller Or you can always come to the dark side. We enjoy you here in health.

6:27🔗 Drew I think she visits, I think one of her personalities visits regularly.

6:30🔗 Caller And who is that?

6:33🔗 David Alan Grier I mean, like it's really-

6:35🔗 Drew It's Damien.

6:36🔗 Caller Oh, Damien.

6:37🔗 David Alan Grier No, cause like it's really weird cause like I don't think I have multiple personalities. But at the same time, I think I do because like I have been satanic.

6:45🔗 Caller I have been wicked.

6:46🔗 Drew Thank you.

6:48🔗 David Alan Grier Whenever my parents told me I was moving from Dallas to Arkansas, I was like, oh, no, thank you. I'm not being redacted.

6:54🔗 Caller No, there's nothing. It sounds like you're on the right path.

6:57🔗 Drew With the satanic rituals and the-

7:00🔗 Caller Have you sacrificed a giant yet?

7:02🔗 David Alan Grier I painted my wall red and I took black paint and I put on the I Heart Damien, I Heart 66. I want to carry Damien in my stomach. I'm a vampire. I have blood and all that kind of stuff.

7:13🔗 Caller Yes.

7:14🔗 David Alan Grier I have actually done the satanic rituals. Very good. How did you endure it? It was scary. I used to see demons in my bedroom.

7:23🔗 Caller Nothing wrong with that.

7:24🔗 David Alan Grier If I skipped the medicine, I would still see like demons.

7:27🔗 Caller Oh, stay off that medicine. Don't do that.

7:29🔗 Drew But do do that and try to get some more help. Pay no attention to the voices in the background. Pay no attention to Dr. Drew.

7:36🔗 Caller Come to the dark side.

7:38🔗 Drew Bethany, come on. When is enough enough? And when you get some help?

7:42🔗 Caller Never.

7:42🔗 Drew You've been through enough. You've talked about, you're aware how horrible your life has been. The chaos, the trauma, the deaths, the losses, the abuse of people. Let's get over it. And by the way, you're a drug addict, right? What's wrong with that? Yes, you are. It's not a yes and no. It's a yes. And you're a setup for drug addiction with your history and all. So go to a 12-step program and that's free. Get a sponsor. Twelve steps to hell. That's your new book, isn't it?

8:09🔗 Caller Yes, it is. It's really a pamphlet.

8:12🔗 Drew It's a pamphlet?

8:13🔗 Caller Yes. Written in Old English.

8:15🔗 Drew Oh, nice.

8:16🔗 Caller Oh, yes. Of some of my greatest work. They had the plague. You've heard of it, haven't you?

8:20🔗 Drew Yes, yes, I have. Well done. So Bethany, look, get to it. Whatever your drug of choice was, cocaine, narcotics, get to a 12-step meeting.

8:30🔗 Caller Sounds lovely.

8:30🔗 Drew Get a sponsor. Spend some time with other people. If you're not willing to get some professional help with the County Mental Health, which will treat you for free, do get some appropriate connection with 12-step.

8:40🔗 Caller Dr. Drew, I'd like this day, the whole show, but I've got to set off some car bombs in Kabul.

8:45🔗 Drew Okay.

8:45🔗 Caller I'll see you later.

8:46🔗 Drew Good night.

8:47🔗 Caller Bad day.

8:47🔗 Drew Bad day.

8:48🔗 Caller Bad night.

8:49🔗 Drew Bad night.

8:49🔗 Bad evening.

8:51🔗 Drew Bad, bad.

8:52🔗 David Alan Grier Dr. Drew, I just got here.

8:53🔗 Good. David Alan Grier, buddy.

8:56🔗 Drew David Alan Grier.

8:57🔗 Who was on before?

8:58🔗 Drew I didn't, was someone else here? Did you see somebody?

9:01🔗 I didn't see any.

9:01🔗 David Alan Grier It smells weird. It smells like death in here.

9:04🔗 Well, you know.

9:06🔗 David Alan Grier Good vibes.

9:07🔗 Drew I'll tolerate anybody in that seat.

9:09🔗 Oh, my gosh.

9:10🔗 David Alan Grier Sorry I was late, you know.

9:12🔗 But listen, I was listening on the radio. What do you think about a school?

9:16🔗 Drew They're telling somebody.

9:17🔗 Diagnosing someone as a multiple personality.

9:20🔗 Drew I think that the, just consider the reporting source.

9:25🔗 Well, think back to your school, Dr. Drew.

9:27🔗 Drew She's 17 though. Okay. When we were kids, they used to go do all kinds of weird stuff.

9:33🔗 Yeah, but would you, I don't know, would you trust your shop teacher to tell you that you were a multiple personality guy?

9:40🔗 Drew The school, but I bet you the school didn't actually make a diagnosis.

9:43🔗 Really?

9:43🔗 Drew I bet they referred her for help and somebody made a diagnosis.

9:46🔗 I don't know. They have, I mean, it's different now. I have friends who have kids in school. They recommend, your kid has to be on medication. Your kid is obviously-

9:55🔗 Drew No, they do, but they don't do the, here's what I have found, is that the schools know there's something wrong, but they're extremely unsophisticated about how to do the testing, how the diagnostic workups are done, and who to send people to.

10:07🔗 Caller Right.

10:08🔗 Drew And so they say go get help, get help, but they are not themselves much help in delivering the diagnostic message or getting them the right people necessarily.

10:17🔗 Caller Listen, Dr. Drew, before we go any further, I want to give a big shout out to Nick Lachey. He's just won the lottery. He was married to a banging, banging broad, Jessica Simpson. He's about to get paid.

10:28🔗 David Alan Grier It's your lucky day, Nicky.

10:29🔗 Caller She filed for divorce and he gets half, no prenup. Congratulations, Nick. You are our man, loveline man of the night.

10:37🔗 Drew I gotta tell you, I have always thought that those two, I still, I don't see them getting a divorce. I don't see it.

10:43🔗 Caller Well, you know, when she gets the tab, I guarantee there will be an immediate, reconciliation.

10:49🔗 Drew No, I think there's something there with those two.

10:51🔗 Caller Well, she's dating her dad now. I think that's what's really going on.

10:53🔗 Drew That's a problem.

10:54🔗 Caller That's a problem.

10:55🔗 Drew It's not good. That sounds like something that Beelzebub might set up.

10:58🔗 Well, he's gone.

11:00🔗 David Alan Grier They just have me, Davey G. He left.

11:02🔗 Caller He's not here. I'm sorry.

11:04🔗 David Alan Grier What?

11:04🔗 Drew How do you know he was?

11:05🔗 Caller I don't know. Beelzebub.

11:08🔗 Drew What?

11:08🔗 Caller What are you looking at me like that for, Dr. Drew?

11:10🔗 Next caller.

11:11🔗 Caller Let's save some babies.

11:12🔗 Drew Dave, 28.

11:13🔗 Caller Oh no, not the same Dave. I can't take much more compliments. I really can't. I think I had to take a knee last night.

11:19🔗 Drew Dave?

11:20🔗 Caller Yeah.

11:20🔗 Drew Hey, what's up, buddy?

11:21🔗 Caller Hey. Okay, I'll give you the question and then I'll tell you the story. Question is, is my marriage over? Yes. The story is me and my wife have been married six years going on seven. She's always been into women and we kind of have had threesomes with her friends here and there and it wasn't really all that great for her or me because, I don't know, lack of experience or whatever. It just wasn't a good deal.

11:52🔗 Drew It's weird.

11:53🔗 Caller It was weird. About a month ago, this girl approached me and said that she wanted to be with my wife.

12:01🔗 Drew How did she know to ask you that?

12:03🔗 Caller Oh, I'm sorry?

12:04🔗 Drew What a strange thing for someone to walk up to.

12:06🔗 Caller A guy would never do that. Dr. Drew, I dig your wife, can I be with her?

12:09🔗 Caller No, that's right. So I'm thinking, well, okay, this is my opportunity right here.

12:13🔗 Drew Wait, wait, wait, I need more information. Where were you when, Dave, where were you when this happened? She's a co-worker?

12:21🔗 Caller She was.

12:22🔗 Caller Did you know that she and your wife had hooked up? Had you guys ever had a threesome with this particular person?

12:27🔗 Drew Or have you been having conversations with her about your swinging history?

12:30🔗 Caller No, no, no, no, no, no, she, some girls just come out and say that kind of stuff. I think sometimes for like a pension, you know, guys will respond to it easier and bring them more attention, you know.

12:43🔗 Caller Wait a minute, how did she say I want to be with your wife? Did you say your wife's really hot? I'd love to hook up with her. What did she say?

12:49🔗 Caller Yeah, basically, yeah. She went, God, your wife is really cute and God, it would be great if I could just hook up with her. And she kind of said it jokingly, right?

12:57🔗 Caller Okay.

12:58🔗 Caller And I caught the bluff. I went, well, then fine, because she's into other women, let's go. Well, and I expect her to say, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm hooked up with this guy, blah, blah, blah on this. I thought that's where it would go. But it didn't. She was dating this other guy. She dumped him right away and said, okay, let's all get together. And I went, well, okay, no problem. You know, come on over this night and let's, you know, let's not do it right away. Let's kind of talk and be friends kind of thing first, you know?

13:24🔗 Drew All right, what happened?

13:25🔗 Caller And that wasn't a big deal. We were friends and everything. Well, then the next week she came and she stayed for the week and threesomes ensued.

13:34🔗 Drew All right, here's the deal. There is way more here in each of you than you're sort of allowing us to see or maybe know yourself to tell us about. I mean, this is, this is, you know, huge chaos, lots of boundary violations.

13:48🔗 Caller And lots of fun.

13:49🔗 Drew Fine, enjoy.

13:50🔗 Caller But here's the weird thing. Here's the weird thing though. He said that you'd said that you guys had done some threesomes before. It never really worked out.

13:57🔗 Caller No, no, no, no, no, no. We had with other friends, not with this.

14:00🔗 Caller Right, right. I know, I know. But you said that in these other threesomes, neither one of you really enjoyed it. You weren't really into it. So why would you pursue it again if it was not really good? It wasn't something you really enjoyed. Why would you pursue it again? That's all I wonder.

14:15🔗 Caller It sounds petty, but the other girls were kind of fugly.

14:20🔗 Caller Okay.

14:21🔗 Caller I wasn't really that attractive to my wife or me. We were still kind of like experimenting, like, is this something we're going to get into?

14:28🔗 Caller I know.

14:28🔗 Caller It was actually something that we could get into.

14:32🔗 Caller Before you got the Rolls Royce, you went with the Volkswagen.

14:35🔗 Caller Right.

14:36🔗 Drew Right. All right, Dave. This is, give us some more history about the background of you and your wife. I mean, who are the drug addicts here?

14:45🔗 Caller I am.

14:46🔗 Drew Okay. You're a drug addict. And who's got the borderline personality?

14:49🔗 Caller Let me rephrase that. I'm not as bad of a drug addict anymore. I only smoke weed nowadays.

14:55🔗 Drew That's fine.

14:55🔗 Caller What did you used to do?

14:57🔗 Caller She doesn't do anything at all anymore.

15:00🔗 Drew Anymore.

15:01🔗 Caller Wait a minute. What did you used to do? What was your drug of choice?

15:05🔗 Caller There was like three. I always mixed LSD and cocaine.

15:10🔗 Caller That sounds wonderful to me.

15:12🔗 Caller Yeah, I know. I kind of fried my brain doing that. I deeply regret it.

15:16🔗 Drew That's really... Here's the way somebody with my training looks at this. The ladies have what we call a borderline personality, or these traits.

15:23🔗 Caller Now, explain that to them.

15:24🔗 Drew It's a very primitive, it's an arrested development.

15:28🔗 Caller I want you.

15:29🔗 Drew And it's associated with a lot of chaos, a lot of drama, a lot of drugs and alcohol, and they tend to be very attracted. Now, Dave, I'm not calling you this name. This is not meant to be disparaging.

15:39🔗 Caller Get it out, Dr. Drew.

15:40🔗 Drew Because people hear this word, they go, oh, I'm not that, but towards the more sociopathic males. And I'm not saying either of you have those labels, but those are the qualities in your personalities. And that tends to result in these kinds of cases.

15:54🔗 Caller When you say sociopath, to me, I say a guy who's very social, walking down his own path, independent, loves people.

16:01🔗 Caller We would say that sociopath.

16:04🔗 Drew And let me tell you what I mean by that. And Dave, you really are this. You're very entertaining, very charming, lovely to be around, but reality is your only concern is Dave. And that's a particular personality style. And that's fine. I'm saying you're a bad person. I'm saying these are personality styles. No, I'm really not.

16:23🔗 Caller I think you are.

16:24🔗 Drew That's what I'm afraid people are gonna take.

16:25🔗 Caller I don't mean to do that. That's what I take.

16:27🔗 Caller Me being like that, is that gonna end my marriage because I am very concerned about myself?

16:32🔗 Drew Well, I think that...

16:34🔗 Caller Say yes, because I'll tell you why.

16:36🔗 Drew No, I can't say that. Because borderline sociopaths always go together.

16:40🔗 Caller But how can you, you said, did you end your marriage? No, you didn't end your marriage. You didn't, you know, your wife, whether or not she decides to be with this other woman, that's her decision. You can't come in tomorrow and say, I want this to end. If she says, I don't, then it...

16:55🔗 Drew I'm not following you.

16:56🔗 Caller What? I mean, he said that it is his fault.

16:57🔗 Drew Both the ladies want, both he and the other lady want his wife. Is that the situation now?

17:03🔗 Caller Well, see, what's kind of weird, the situation right now is that both ladies kind of want me because the other girl has moved in now, living with us currently. And now both of them want to have my baby.

17:18🔗 Drew Oh, yeah.

17:19🔗 Caller Well, you can end that.

17:21🔗 Caller And that's understandable.

17:22🔗 Oh, yeah, who wouldn't?

17:25🔗 Caller Wait a minute, he can end it. What I'm saying is, I'm saying, did he end his marriage? No, but he can end this situation.

17:32🔗 Drew How?

17:33🔗 Caller To walk in tonight if he wants to and say, I don't want you living here.

17:37🔗 David Alan Grier So he can tell his wife, right?

17:39🔗 Caller He can tell his wife, I don't want to live like this.

17:41🔗 Drew I want to recommit to the marriage.

17:42🔗 Caller Absolutely. Let's live a different way. Let's get in some treatment and let's try and solve this big, huge problem that we have.

17:48🔗 Drew That is the, I agree with David wholeheartedly. That would be the first step. The next step would be to get into some sobriety, some 12 step and have somebody do a marriage because I don't want to, I would never ring a death knell for, I never give up.

18:00🔗 Caller Well, I'll tell you one thing you should do.

18:01🔗 Drew And just because you guys have these personality traits doesn't mean that you can't go together. In fact, that creates great passion sometimes, but it also creates great chaos and great problems.

18:09🔗 Caller Well, one thing he should do before you make any decisions, you go home tonight, young man, and you bang the bejesus out of both of them.

18:16🔗 David Alan Grier Next caller!

18:18🔗 Drew Man, that is a rough one.

18:20🔗 Caller That is, man, that's good stuff there, boy.

18:22🔗 Drew Lacey 24.

18:24🔗 Caller Hi.

18:25🔗 Caller Hi, Lacey.

18:27🔗 Caller How are you?

18:28🔗 Caller Very good. And you?

18:29🔗 David Alan Grier I'm great.

18:30🔗 David Alan Grier Good. Next caller!

18:31🔗 Drew What's your question, my dear?

18:33🔗 David Alan Grier I have a question about female ejaculation.

18:35🔗 Of course.

18:38🔗 Caller When I do it...

18:39🔗 Drew That's what you call striking a chord with David.

18:43🔗 David Alan Grier When I do it, it is a large amount.

18:46🔗 Caller God bless you. Are you in the LA area? I've got my paddle in my canoe now, my darling.

18:55🔗 Drew What?

18:56🔗 David Alan Grier When I'm with a new man, I'm so embarrassed about it that I try to hold back the orgasm.

19:01🔗 Drew No, have the guys ever said, Oh, I can't deal with you?

19:05🔗 Caller Have you ever gotten a guy who, date number two, says, Honey, if you do that again, I am so out of here?

19:12🔗 Drew Or do you have the guy going, Oh, ha ha, doing a touchdown dance?

19:16🔗 Caller The whole rest of the next day on the playground.

19:18🔗 David Alan Grier Guess what I did?

19:19🔗 Drew Yes.

19:20🔗 Caller It was me, me, me, me, me, me.

19:21🔗 Drew Lacey, men are very impressed when they can produce something. And then if you really want to make it special, just go, wow, that's incredible.

19:29🔗 Caller It's the first time. You did this to me. Or if you have this talent, little food coloring, you may want to try different colors of liquids, right?

19:36🔗 David Alan Grier But it's so much that I tend to soak a bit. I mean, like, the spots that I'm in, I tend to soak all the way through whatever I'm raining on.

19:43🔗 Drew Lacey, you're sending David into ecstasy here.

19:47🔗 Caller Come on, Beelzebub's about to come back.

19:50🔗 Drew Beelzebub has.

19:51🔗 Caller So what is your question? You want to be a dried up old prune? Is that what you want us to tell you how to be?

19:55🔗 David Alan Grier No, I just, my question is, I mean, is that, is that really what I'm doing? Or is it, you know, because I know that the bladder can hold a lot. I'm going to the nursing school.

20:04🔗 Drew Yeah, it can be urine sometimes too, but usually it's not, not at your age, not unless you've had a baby.

20:08🔗 David Alan Grier Okay, no, I have not. But I've had a couple of surgeries, not on my bladder or anything, but-

20:15🔗 Caller Where?

20:16🔗 David Alan Grier They've cut through my stomach a couple of times, and I didn't know if that would affect anything or not.

20:21🔗 Drew What were the surgeries for?

20:22🔗 David Alan Grier Because I never did this with my husband.

20:24🔗 Drew What were the surgeries for?

20:25🔗 David Alan Grier I had my spleen taken out and I had-

20:28🔗 Drew Do you have ITP or something?

20:29🔗 Caller What's ITP?

20:31🔗 Drew You have ITP? You have amine thrombocytopenia purpura? No.

20:34🔗 Caller Amine thrombocytopenia purpura.

20:35🔗 Drew Why did you have your spleen out?

20:37🔗 David Alan Grier I had mono, and after I was getting better, I lifted a fireplace and tore my spleen, and it ended up causing blood to leak out and show up the size of a football.

20:49🔗 Caller You lifted a fireplace?

20:51🔗 David Alan Grier Kind of, yeah.

20:52🔗 Caller Are you a big girl?

20:56🔗 David Alan Grier I'm sturdy.

20:57🔗 Caller I grew up on a farm.

20:58🔗 David Alan Grier Sturdy.

20:59🔗 Caller You're sturdy. You're milk-fed, aren't you?

21:01🔗 Drew How much do you weigh?

21:02🔗 David Alan Grier No, I'm not real. I'm 185.

21:05🔗 Drew Sturdy.

21:06🔗 Caller You're seven, eight feet tall, are you, honey?

21:08🔗 David Alan Grier No, I'm 5'5.

21:10🔗 Caller Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Big girls need love, too.

21:14🔗 David Alan Grier I'm not where I should be in weight-wise, either, but, you know, I'm not 300 pounds, so.

21:18🔗 Drew No, no.

21:19🔗 Caller Or 400.

21:21🔗 Drew Or 1,200, for that matter.

21:22🔗 Caller For that matter, yeah.

21:23🔗 Drew Okay, Lacey, this is not a problem. We deem it a non-problem, okay?

21:26🔗 Caller You are blessed.

21:28🔗 Drew Okay.

21:28🔗 Caller You are blessed.

21:28🔗 Drew Hey, David, I want to ask you, thank you, Lacey, a difficult question that I have noticed.

21:32🔗 Caller Shoot away.

21:33🔗 Drew And I really want, I'm really curious.

21:34🔗 Caller Shoot away.

21:35🔗 Drew In terms of the kind of person that seems to be attracted to the large ladies.

21:39🔗 Yeah.

21:41🔗 Drew I've noticed it tends to be, and this strikes me as potentially comical, but I'm actually quite serious about it. Men with darker skin.

21:49🔗 Caller No, I'm not a big girl guy.

21:51🔗 Drew No, you're not. I know. But there tends to be, there's something there. I don't know what it is.

21:55🔗 Caller I don't know. You're saying every black guy likes big fat, No, I'm not.

21:59🔗 Drew No, I'm not. I'm not.

22:01🔗 Caller There's a couple of areas there. Now, I know that there was a survey done in terms of when they asked young women their self-image and usually white women will be, usually will say, I'm too fat. They could be 110 pounds.

22:15🔗 Drew Yeah, yeah. Women always, or whatever.

22:16🔗 Caller Black women, overall majority are happy and satisfied and confident with the way that they look.

22:23🔗 Drew I've read that, yes.

22:24🔗 Caller Other than that, I cannot answer your question. I mean, why don't you do a field study and go down and look around. But I, I've, Dr. Drew is leaning in very closely. He really wants to know.

22:33🔗 Drew No, no, I've heard it. I've heard it said. I've noticed it.

22:36🔗 Caller There's a just a by whom who have you heard it said by by medical colleagues.

22:40🔗 Drew Well, let's say AMA meeting, did you hear that? This is not being racist.

22:45🔗 Caller Racist. I think so.

22:47🔗 Drew I just call the guy sociopath and Borla because you are a sociopath. That's a pattern.

22:51🔗 Caller You are insane.

22:52🔗 David Alan Grier And that's color.

22:53🔗 Drew I'm just interested in patterns of people having and I don't know.

22:56🔗 Caller I mean, you know, I'm not a big girl guy. I'm my my philosophy is always start small. They're going to get bigger.

23:02🔗 Drew No, I know.

23:02🔗 Caller I know.

23:02🔗 Drew I know. That's not your thing.

23:04🔗 Caller I would like an adult.

23:05🔗 Drew You have no sense of what guys. Let's put it this way. Guys that are into that, whatever their their I know.

23:09🔗 Caller I know guys there, but right.

23:10🔗 Caller I know guys that are into that, like that was their fetish. Meaning I know guys who had bang and girlfriends that do that bang and girlfriends. But the chick that they had on the side was huge. Because that's what they really liked.

23:25🔗 Drew And that's great. I mean, for the ladies, it's good for the women that are. Yeah.

23:29🔗 Caller But I mean, to me, at that point, that's a fetish. And you're talking about big girls.

23:33🔗 Drew So the women are just sort of objects then, right?

23:35🔗 Caller I don't know. I just know that behind closed doors, that's really what this particular guy liked. And that was his secret.

23:42🔗 Drew Did he have any... Was there anything about his history or anything?

23:44🔗 Caller I was in college. I didn't ask him all that. He just told me, he said, I like big girls. And I was like, hey, I do too. He said, no, I like big girls. I was like, what? He pulled out this album cover, and this chick, her ass was as big as El Segundo, you know? And I was like, wow. Yeah, wow. Yeah, that's really what it is.

24:01🔗 Drew And the guys that are into it are-

24:03🔗 Caller I'm kind of like chunky.

24:05🔗 Caller Chunky but funky, baby.

24:06🔗 Drew The guys are very into it. And you're right, just have a fetish, just a quality to it.

24:10🔗 Caller Well, I guess that's what it is. I mean, I don't see any ethnicity that pushes toward it. But I know that there's a new aesthetic. If you go and get a King magazine, if you go and get magazines that cater to a really R&B readership, the pinup women that they have, these models have huge asses, huge. I mean, like, it's the closest you could come to streamlining that aesthetic would be Jennifer Lopez. But when she first blew up, a lot of white chicks would go, she's fat. And everybody else, we're all going, no, that's a ghetto booty and it's beautiful.

24:49🔗 Drew And, but that's kind of slim though, too. It's just a certain shape.

24:53🔗 Caller Yes, right. What are you trying to tell me, Dr. Drew?

24:55🔗 Drew No, no, I'm curious. I can't even ask this. David, please, you're my buddy.

24:59🔗 Caller Do you like that? Do you like that? Yes, he does.

25:02🔗 Drew A little towards that, I guess.

25:04🔗 Caller I think you have a chocolate problem. I think you do. Let's delve into this later. It's not about you. It's not Dr. Drew's Loveline.

25:09🔗 Drew No, no, it isn't.

25:09🔗 Caller We're helping babies.

25:10🔗 Drew I'm trying to shed some light on this thing that never-

25:12🔗 Caller Dr. Drew, it is 1025.

25:13🔗 There are kids out there.

25:14🔗 David Alan Grier No, no break. Next caller.

25:16🔗 Drew We have to take a break.

25:17🔗 David Alan Grier Jennifer from Idaho. What's going on?

25:19🔗 Drew 1-800, she's from Illinois. Illinois. 1-800-LOVE-191.

25:23🔗 Caller Dr. Drew, my headphones are not, I can't hear her.

25:25🔗 David Alan Grier Hello, Jenny?

25:27🔗 Drew And we'll be right back.

25:28🔗 Caller Oh man.

25:30🔗 Loveline!

25:30🔗 How do you want me to say it?

25:31🔗 Loveline will be right back.

25:32🔗 Loveline will be right back.

25:36🔗 Drew Here we are in Loveline. I think we've struck a chord here with some of our listeners. Yeah. All right. What we were, he and Dagon, I wish, I wish we got to get a camera rolling during the commercial break. That's when the really...

25:47🔗 Caller Well, cause we're not on the air. We can really cut loose. You know, you're swinging with the F-bomb and everything. You're nuts.

25:52🔗 Drew Well, but we were saying, what we agree 1,000% on is that the anorectic, you know, ramp model and photographed models really are not what guys like. And women think that's what men like. And they really don't. Men like curves. Men like women.

26:07🔗 Caller Well, Tyra Banks looks banging when she's not modeling.

26:10🔗 Drew Yes.

26:10🔗 Caller So she's put on a few piles. Right.

26:12🔗 Drew And men like fertility.

26:14🔗 Caller Absolutely.

26:14🔗 Drew That's what they're attracted to. And you're underweight. You can't reproduce. You can't survive pregnancy.

26:19🔗 Caller I do know this. If you came in and you were dating and you came in a room and there are 20 beautiful women, but if someone told you that 18 of those women were infertile, would that change? They could not have kids. Would that change?

26:35🔗 Drew You know why? Because your brain would still be attracted to the symbols of fertility. Well, no. Even though you know consciously.

26:42🔗 Caller Statistics don't bear you out. Statistics say that if a woman says and you have a group of women, they're all just the same in terms of hotness, and you have two women, one says she's infertile, cannot bear children, the other one says she can, men invariably are going to go to the woman who's fertile. That's primal. I'm just telling you what's still, you know, I'm telling you what I read.

27:05🔗 Drew What I think is we're wired a certain way to see, be attracted to the symbols of fertility, the outward appearance of it, and so what's actually going on doesn't interest us. We're just interested in what looks like it should be. Because when we were in Primitive Man, we didn't know what fertility was. We were just wired to do these sort of things.

27:21🔗 Caller Yeah, but you could tell in other ways.

27:22🔗 Drew Yes, but the idea of fertility wasn't something we even understood.

27:26🔗 Caller Can we take a caller, please?

27:27🔗 Drew No, no, we got to talk to Mikey, who's 28th.

27:30🔗 Caller Mikey.

27:30🔗 Drew A big Dag fan.

27:33🔗 What's going on?

27:34🔗 Caller What's cracking, baby?

27:36🔗 Not too much.

27:37🔗 Caller I want to say Dr. Drew, I've been listening for a while to your show and I think it's great.

27:42🔗 Drew Thank you, Mikey.

27:43🔗 Caller I listen to it every night.

27:44🔗 Drew Cool. What's going on?

27:46🔗 Caller Not too much. I just want to tell David Alan Grier that I've been a long time fan. Thank you. I just wanted to bust this chop about one of the first movies we ever did.

27:54🔗 Caller What was that?

27:57🔗 Caller It was actually the first movie I ever saw him in and I thought it was an absolute riot.

28:02🔗 Drew What was the movie?

28:04🔗 Caller Amazement on the Moon.

28:05🔗 I'm sorry.

28:07🔗 Caller I'm so sorry. I was desperate.

28:09🔗 David Alan Grier I was young.

28:12🔗 Caller Actually, John Landis directed that. And when I auditioned for that role, OJ. Simpson auditioned.

28:18🔗 Drew Whoa.

28:19🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah. He was in the waiting room. And I came in there and I took the role from OJ.

28:23🔗 Drew Wow. Yeah.

28:24🔗 Caller So it could have been OJ. Simpson.

28:25🔗 Drew This is Kristen, 23.

28:27🔗 Caller Hi.

28:29🔗 Caller I'm calling because you're talking about the big girls.

28:31🔗 Caller Yeah.

28:32🔗 Caller I'm 5'10 and I'm 2'30.

28:35🔗 Caller Well, wait a minute. 5'10, that's kind of tall.

28:38🔗 Drew Yeah.

28:38🔗 Caller Yeah, it's kind of tall. You know, I'm a little thick.

28:41🔗 Caller How do you do the radio math?

28:43🔗 Drew It's like 2'30. I don't know the radio math. It's just to add 2.8%.

28:48🔗 Caller You're 2'52?

28:49🔗 Caller Yeah, there we go.

28:52🔗 Caller No, actually, I think I'm just under 2'50.

28:54🔗 So yeah, you got me.

28:55🔗 Caller But basically, I never thought I looked that good. It was the darker brothers that showed me that I looked good. It was the black boys, Mexican boys. I'm dating a Mexican right now. Tell me you love that I have a thick butt.

29:06🔗 Caller Now, do you believe him? Do you feel good about it?

29:09🔗 Caller Oh, yeah, because now I found out a lot of other guys. But it's not just dark people. Today at work, I had a guy come in.

29:16🔗 Drew Maybe people with darker skin are just more expressive about it.

29:18🔗 Caller You know what? When I dated a porn star, all of a sudden, all these chicks came up to me that had any connection with the adult community, it was like I was ushered into a secret club. It was beautiful. It was like, you know, how do you get out? It took a long time. But, you know, I'm just telling you, there's a whole wonderful world.

29:36🔗 Caller And he had a shirt that had, you know, the Playboy girl on the back of the, you know, back of the lead flap, you know, has that one, like little white girls girls. And it was a chunky girl, a real big, chunky girl. I loved it. I wanted his shirt.

29:48🔗 And he said he had to have it.

29:49🔗 Caller It was a small size.

29:50🔗 He didn't care.

29:50🔗 Caller It was the only one on the rack.

29:51🔗 And he had to have it.

29:52🔗 Caller Now, was he really big or what?

29:54🔗 Drew Was he big too? He's usually small.

29:56🔗 Caller He wasn't big. I'm big. I don't know. I got like, I got a big butt.

30:00🔗 Caller Okay. Now, what did you do? What did you have to do to get the t-shirt?

30:04🔗 Caller I don't know. I asked him where he got it. But he said something. He went on about how it was the only one on the rack. So I didn't hear where he got it.

30:10🔗 Drew I want to talk to some guys that have this fetish to see what sort of, what sort of the fantasy that lies underneath it.

30:14🔗 Caller You know what I want to talk to? I want to talk to the therapist slash hooker from San Francisco. God bless you.

30:21🔗 Drew She has not graced us with her presence quite some time.

30:23🔗 Caller I want to make a session. I'm going to make a double session actually. You know. You know.

30:27🔗 Drew A DP? DS?

30:29🔗 David Alan Grier DS baby! Triple reverse cowboy!

30:33🔗 Drew Jennifer 21.

30:34🔗 Caller Hi.

30:35🔗 David Alan Grier Hi.

30:39🔗 Caller What's up there?

30:41🔗 Caller Well, okay, now I'm nervous. While I was on the hold, I wasn't that nervous, but...

30:47🔗 Drew Now you're on.

30:47🔗 Caller Put her on hold.

30:51🔗 Caller Okay.

30:53🔗 Caller Well, I'm 21.

30:54🔗 Caller I've been engaged for a year now.

30:56🔗 Caller And...

30:57🔗 Drew Bad times.

30:59🔗 Caller I'm not a...

31:02🔗 Caller I'm not that attracted to my fiancé anymore.

31:05🔗 Drew Then you need to break it.

31:07🔗 Caller Well, hold on. When did this not being attracted to him start? The day he put the ring on your finger?

31:13🔗 Caller No, it wasn't the day he put the ring on my finger. It's just like lately, like about three months.

31:19🔗 Caller How many kids do you have?

31:21🔗 Caller I have one.

31:22🔗 Caller Is he the father?

31:24🔗 Caller He's the father, yes.

31:25🔗 Drew Well, so you may sort of relinquish your privileges here. So go ahead. Get married. All right. Jennifer, your mom now.

31:33🔗 Caller No, you can't just say get married.

31:36🔗 Drew Well, yeah, I can. Yeah, I can. I can't just say...

31:39🔗 Caller Well, why? I mean, if it's going to be a bad marriage, I mean, why would you tell them?

31:43🔗 Caller I mean, if you're going to put a child in a situation where things aren't going to be the greatest between the two parents, why put the child through it?

31:50🔗 Caller Is he abusive?

31:52🔗 Caller No, he's not abusive.

31:54🔗 Caller So he's a good guy?

31:55🔗 Caller He's a good guy, but, I mean, everybody has their negative qualities.

31:59🔗 Drew Hey, Jennifer, I know what you're going to put this kid through. I know the kind of chaos that you have the potential to create. I understand. I feel it. I understand the bad... Were you ever abused? She was, yeah. I understand the bad guys that you're going to be attracted to, and that's what's going to destroy this child's life. Make the stable life with this guy. You've relinquished all that when you got pregnant.

32:18🔗 Caller Let's do a little test.

32:19🔗 Drew Be a mom.

32:20🔗 Caller Where do you live?

32:22🔗 Caller I live in Illinois. I live in Du Quang.

32:25🔗 Caller Yeah, I'm coming out there next week on my Harley, and I'm just going to be doing some shots, jealous shots, hanging out in strip clubs.

32:31🔗 Caller No, I think not.

32:32🔗 Caller I don't drink.

32:32🔗 Caller Really?

32:33🔗 Caller I don't do anything.

32:33🔗 Caller You don't? I just go. I go where my heart goes. You know what I mean? I'll be in town for a couple of days.

32:39🔗 Drew You're rambling, man.

32:39🔗 Caller I'm rambling. I'm going to Florida.

32:41🔗 David Alan Grier I want to go on to South Dakota.

32:43🔗 Caller So if we hook up, we'll hook up, baby.

32:46🔗 Caller No.

32:47🔗 Caller No?

32:47🔗 David Alan Grier Dang, she failed the test.

32:50🔗 Caller Well, it's not that I'm just not attracted to him. It's just the sex in general. It's been that way for a while before I had my son. Hey, quiet, little one. Before I had my son, I just felt like sex is just like a burden that I have to do it to keep the other man, the person I'm with, satisfied.

33:10🔗 Caller Do you enjoy sex at all?

33:12🔗 Caller Well, yeah, a little bit, but that's after it starts. I mean, the whole thought of it even going on in the first place is a little bit...

33:21🔗 Drew Why? Why are you so averse to it?

33:22🔗 She just slipped up and talked about another guy.

33:25🔗 Drew I know. I'm just...

33:26🔗 David Alan Grier Who is that? Anderson, how dare you?

33:29🔗 David Alan Grier How dare... Where is this Anderson?

33:30🔗 If you're Satan, I'm God.

33:32🔗 Caller You know you're not.

33:34🔗 Caller That wasn't me. I don't know how that happened. But wait a minute. Did you say... Did you say that you're an abuse survivor?

33:41🔗 Caller Uh, yeah.

33:42🔗 Caller Well, okay then.

33:43🔗 Drew She didn't say it. I just knew it. I could feel it.

33:45🔗 Caller Drew, Drew, tell her. Tell her what happened.

33:46🔗 Drew Jennifer, you're going to create, you're going to reenact that abuse. Every time you get a nice guy, you're going to sabotage it. You're going to reenact the abuse. You're going to find people to reenact it with. This is going to be the transgenerational transmission of trauma. You're going to transmit it right on down to your kid. No.

34:01🔗 Caller Transgenerational, transgeneracetational.

34:05🔗 Drew You're going to do it, Jennifer. That's why I can say to you, settle down with this guy and make a go of it.

34:13🔗 Caller Get some help before you do them.

34:14🔗 Drew You're going to need help to do it. Certainly, premarital counseling is a reasonable thing. But, look, you have a kid, come on. Let's get it going.

34:22🔗 Caller You'd be surprised how blind people are. I have a friend who, very well educated, he's married and in passing goes, every time I bang my wife, she always winds up in the fetal physician in the corner crying saying, daddy, please don't. It's weird.

34:39🔗 David Alan Grier Hey, let's go out and eat.

34:40🔗 David Alan Grier I swear that's what I said. That's crazy.

34:44🔗 David Alan Grier Oh, come on, I'm having burgers.

34:46🔗 David Alan Grier Never revisited it.

34:48🔗 Caller I was sitting in that restaurant for two days.

34:50🔗 Drew Here's what you need to do. You need to read a little bit about your buddy.

34:54🔗 Caller Well, they didn't make it if that's a surprise.

34:57🔗 Drew And remember the guy we were talking to with the crazy, yes, that's your buddy.

35:01🔗 Caller Yeah. Well, he seemed like he was caught in it. He was caught in it.

35:05🔗 Drew But that's sort of the reason he doesn't really like, empathize or anything with it, because like, isn't that something? Oh, here we go.

35:10🔗 Caller Yeah, but he did, I didn't ask him all the family history stuff.

35:13🔗 Drew Is he in entertainment?

35:15🔗 Caller No, well, kind of, sort of, but not really. But listen, he seemed more like a guy where a lot of times people don't really present themselves the way they really are until you're way deep in it. You know, whirlwind courtship. This chick is kooky and nutty. She's the perfect match. Let's get married right away. Let's not wait. Let's get married right away. Six months down, she's crying in a corner in the fetal position. So, you know, to his, I give him that. I mean, I don't know why. They didn't. It didn't last.

35:39🔗 Drew No. Well, that ending is probably an OK thing for both of them.

35:43🔗 Caller Well, she's often three or four.

35:44🔗 Drew Anyway, so it is amazing that people in our culture, it's like we don't learn life one on one human, human being one on one.

35:51🔗 Caller No one teaches us.

35:52🔗 Drew It's crazy. And we know so much about how they work.

35:55🔗 Caller It's very simple. We know so much, but we know so little. Here's some crazy kooky girls always in our rooms. Here's next caller, shall we?

36:04🔗 Drew Dave, 26. Dave, hey buddy, what's happening?

36:09🔗 Caller There you are. Not much, man.

36:11🔗 I just had a quick question for you guys.

36:15🔗 Caller All right, since I had a sensitivity problem with the ejaculating.

36:21🔗 Drew You ejaculated too quickly.

36:23🔗 Caller Yes. No, not at all.

36:26🔗 Caller I wasn't.

36:27🔗 Caller I was having a real hard time.

36:29🔗 Caller When you say ejaculation, did you have an orgasm and nothing came out?

36:34🔗 Caller No.

36:34🔗 Caller Or you couldn't have an orgasm?

36:36🔗 Caller No, I just wasn't doing nothing, guy.

36:40🔗 Caller I was shooting blanks.

36:43🔗 Caller I couldn't work myself up to... Like if I jump in the sack with a girl.

36:47🔗 Drew Yeah, Dave, what's the question? What's the question?

36:50🔗 Caller Okay.

36:51🔗 Drew No hypothesizing. Just stay with the facts. Here we go.

36:54🔗 Caller Okay. General piercings.

36:57🔗 Drew Yes.

36:57🔗 Caller All right.

36:58🔗 Caller Since I have one, I put it in and it made me more sensitive so I could go.

37:04🔗 Caller All right. So now I can go.

37:06🔗 Drew What kind of piercing?

37:07🔗 Caller It's a front end piercing.

37:09🔗 Caller It's underneath the head.

37:10🔗 Drew That made you more sensitive to...

37:12🔗 Caller Well, how did it affect you, Dr. Drew?

37:14🔗 Drew My friend that made me insensitive.

37:15🔗 Caller Really? Really? Mine, which I did myself.

37:19🔗 Drew You did?

37:19🔗 Caller I did while I was bored one day. Mine made me sensitive, not to sex, but just to other people's predicaments. Then I switched to a Prince Albert.

37:28🔗 Drew That's what I did.

37:29🔗 Caller Did you?

37:30🔗 Drew Yes.

37:30🔗 Caller I did a double reverse Prince Albert. And I did what they call a ball hugger, and with a little chain, and that kept getting caught in my skivvies. So then I doubled her down to what they call a tribal shoot. It's like a big metal hood you put over there.

37:45🔗 Drew And it goes right to the right to the Vastephrine. That's you not to jack it all.

37:48🔗 David Alan Grier Vastephrine. I'm crazy about Vastephrine. It's definite. I'm definitely nuts about Vastephrine. Yeah.

38:01🔗 Drew So Dave, what's the question? Just get to the question.

38:04🔗 Caller All right.

38:04🔗 So if I pull it out, Yeah.

38:07🔗 Caller Before I get a tingling sensation, All right.

38:10🔗 Caller If I'm trying to go, working up, it just, if I pull it out, will I eventually work back up to get normal again?

38:18🔗 David Alan Grier It would.

38:21🔗 Caller Well, will I ever be able to go?

38:22🔗 I will.

38:23🔗 Drew Dave, there's, okay, need a medical evaluation.

38:28🔗 Caller I'm confused.

38:28🔗 Drew You need to put down the bong and the beer.

38:30🔗 Caller He never answered the question. I said, is it ejaculation or is it that he cannot?

38:34🔗 Drew He cannot have an orgasm until they put the frenulum in and then he became able to. He takes the frenulum piercing out and he has a near-ejaculation feeling, but he's wondering if he'll be able to work into the real thing without the piercing there. My thing is, here's my deal. I've never heard of a frenulum doing this, but God bless you, that's an interesting thing. And it worked, fantastic. I don't quite know why you want to take it out now if it was something that was effective for you, but I can hear, just from your history, you need a lot of things, you need to straighten out a lot of things in order to deal with this problem. A, bong and beer down, 12-step on, medical evaluation. You want me to show him where the piercing is? It's a barbell right through here.

39:12🔗 Caller Is it this way?

39:15🔗 Drew But we gotta take a break. What is this? What is wrong with these pricks? This is nuts!

39:19🔗 Caller Who is in charge?

39:20🔗 David Alan Grier Is this the FCC?

39:21🔗 Drew Dave, how much alcohol and pot are you doing?

39:25🔗 Caller I'm a heavy equipment operator.

39:27🔗 Caller You can't drink or smoke pot.

39:29🔗 David Alan Grier Preach it, brother. Tell him.

39:31🔗 Drew What are you doing, then? Speed? Nothing. You have no history with anything? No. Is it possible that heavy equipment, the vibrations from the equipment caused the problem?

39:40🔗 Caller Dr. Drew, please.

39:41🔗 Drew Are you getting neuropathy down there from it all?

39:44🔗 Caller Why would you? What made you want to get a piercing in the first place?

39:47🔗 Caller Because I couldn't go. Because I couldn't...

39:52🔗 Drew Let me take you through the logic. You can't have ejaculation? Put a spirit through your penis.

39:56🔗 Caller That makes sense to me.

39:57🔗 Drew Of course.

39:58🔗 Caller Makes sense to me.

39:59🔗 Drew Dave, I'm just saying, get a medical evaluation to see if there's a reason why this doesn't happen. I don't know what to tell you because I don't know what the diagnosis is. We got to take a break. David Alan Grier, 1-800-LOVE-191.

40:11🔗 Caller Dr. Drew doesn't know. He's clueless. He's clueless.

40:14🔗 David Alan Grier He doesn't know a thing, but he's Dr. Dr. Drew.

40:44🔗 Drew Right, Loveline, I'm Dr. Drew. He is David Alan Grier. The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. And we're talking to Stacey, who is 23.

40:55🔗 Caller Stacey, what's crack-a-latin honey dip?

40:57🔗 Caller Hey, guys.

40:58🔗 Caller Hey, what's up?

40:59🔗 Caller Hey, I got a question for you, Dr. Drew. You always talk about the girls who've been like violently raped or molested when they were kids, and like me, who have problems with wanting violent sex, and that's me, totally. But what can I do without going to counseling? Like, what kind of chances do I have of getting over that?

41:20🔗 Caller You have no chance of getting over it. You said without going to counseling, without seeking, now, why do you want to get over it?

41:27🔗 Caller Wanting someone to hit me while I have sex.

41:30🔗 Caller Okay, okay.

41:30🔗 Drew But it's working for you or it's not working for you?

41:32🔗 Caller Right, I mean, if you meet a guy, you really love him, he loves you, he's into the whole S&M, BDSM thing. Everything's working. What is it that bothers you about what you desire?

41:43🔗 Caller Okay, well, I'm getting married and the boy that I'm going to marry, okay, I don't believe it's right to have sex before you're married, but I did. I haven't had sex for three years and now I'm getting married. The guy I'm marrying, we used to have sex a long time ago, and I know he's not okay with it. He never has been. And so, I've never had an orgasm with him. And so, and I know he just loves me so much, he would never do that. But like, I mean, am I just going to have to go my whole life without?

42:15🔗 Caller Well, you have to be honest is what you got to do. You got to sit him down. If you really want to be with the guy, right, Dr. Drew? You got to sit him down and say, look, this is my problem. And if you really, it sounds like you really are not comfortable with it for whatever reason, you have to tackle the problem, you have to go into therapy, right?

42:31🔗 Caller I mean, and you know, yeah, in an ideal world, I don't think we're going to go into therapy is that I just don't trust people.

42:36🔗 Caller I, I don't think anybody's smart enough or I don't know, to tell me what to feel or how to get over something like that. I don't know.

42:44🔗 Drew Well, Stacy, let me reassure you, people are very smart and have quite a bit more training than you have and deal with this problem quite as successfully and quite routinely.

42:53🔗 Caller Yeah, but I don't trust you when you say that.

42:55🔗 Drew Now, you don't want to do that. And the reason you can't trust is because of the extreme violation that you went through with the sexual abuse that's very difficult for abuse survivors to trust. And that's why 12-step tends to be one of the more effective kinds of interventions for these sorts of problems in that that very much addresses the experience of powerlessness and establishes trust with other people, builds the capacity for closeness. None of those things can you tolerate right now. And none of those are you going to tolerate unless you get into a process that brings you along, because it's not, it's not, you're not wired that way yet, and something has to help you get through that.

43:31🔗 Caller Hey, let me ask a question. What would happen if you sat down with your husband, you said, honey, you know, I want you to cuff me one when we have sex, and he said, honey buns, I love you so much, yeah, let's do it. And he was totally into it, totally into punching your lights out and banging the hell out of you. Would that make you happy?

43:48🔗 Caller It would probably give me an orgasm.

43:51🔗 Caller But whether or not it would make me happy.

43:53🔗 Drew You're still going to have trouble in relationships, you're still not going to trust, you're still going to tend to cheat. Yeah, Stacey, this is a, it's good that you sort of have a sense that things need to change. They do get help with that, whether it's sort of-

44:06🔗 Caller The other thing that you were talking about the other day was the EDMR process.

44:12🔗 Drew Yeah, I was just going to bring that up with you.

44:13🔗 Caller What I went through was just one specific like violent act of rape.

44:21🔗 Drew I mean, EMDR would be a really good thing for you. Is that a new group? It's an eye movement treatment that they sort of have you watch an eye, a light basically where you walk through the traumas. No, no, it's actually a legitimate treatment. And Stacey, you really might look into this stuff.

44:35🔗 Caller I'll date you, honey. I'll slam your head in the door real hard.

44:38🔗 David Alan Grier I'll run you over with my Volkswagen.

44:40🔗 David Alan Grier I will beat you with a Whiffleball bat.

44:43🔗 Caller I'll bang you.

44:44🔗 David Alan Grier I'll hit you in the head with a chair.

44:46🔗 David Alan Grier I will do it.

44:48🔗 Caller David, you're not my type.

44:50🔗 David Alan Grier Oh, shut down again.

44:53🔗 David Alan Grier I'm leaving.

44:54🔗 David Alan Grier You can talk to the devil, Dr. Drew. I'd give my heart to these kids and they'd shoot me down.

44:59🔗 Drew I know it's hard.

45:00🔗 David Alan Grier I was going to slam her head in the door and she said no.

45:03🔗 Drew Stacey, here's the deal, my dear. You've got some insight.

45:06🔗 David Alan Grier Stacey, why?

45:08🔗 Drew You've got some ideas that are good. Go ahead and explore them a little bit. If you want this marriage to be healthy and survive, it sounds like a good guy.

45:16🔗 David Alan Grier I'll hit you with dirt bombs.

45:17🔗 Drew It sounds like this is a situation that could be really successfully treated.

45:21🔗 Caller I'll take a bunch of pennies and put them in an empty beer can and I'll smack you in the head.

45:25🔗 David Alan Grier How's that?

45:26🔗 Drew Don't F enough. We're going to be right back with David Angrier on Loveline.

45:30🔗 David Alan Grier Still no?

45:35🔗 Drew I think the whiffle ball's bad, I almost got it. The whiffle ball's bad, I almost got it.

45:38🔗 David Alan Grier Oh, what a world, Dr. Drew, what a world.

45:41🔗 Drew Be right back. That's right, Love Line. The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. That's David Alan Grier.

46:06🔗 David Alan Grier David G.

46:08🔗 Caller Let's save some babies.

46:08🔗 Shut up.

46:10🔗 Caller Oh, I'm sorry.

46:11🔗 Excuse me.

46:12🔗 Caller It comes out like that.

46:13🔗 Drew Wow.

46:14🔗 Caller It's like a shut up poop.

46:15🔗 Drew Okay, let's get some calls here. This is Angel 21.

46:19🔗 Caller Oh, hey. First, I want to tell you hot. Chunky chicks are hot, just so you know.

46:24🔗 Caller How chunky are you?

46:26🔗 Caller I'm not chunky. I'm actually skinny, but I'm a lesbian and I love this girl. My question is, I broke up with my girlfriend. And after I did that, I've been trying to masturbate. I've been using toys and stuff. And nothing seems to get me off.

46:41🔗 Drew Hold on, hold on, hold on. What with your girlfriend? We didn't get that.

46:44🔗 I broke up with her.

46:45🔗 Drew You're a lesbian, man.

46:47🔗 Caller And you're fat. Yeah, I'm a big dyke. But anyways, like, I was a lesbian before. You're fat.

46:57🔗 Drew You're fat.

46:59🔗 Caller Huh?

47:00🔗 Drew Nothing.

47:01🔗 Caller Go ahead.

47:02🔗 Drew You're overweight.

47:04🔗 Caller She said she's not fat. You're not a big girl.

47:06🔗 Drew She's chunky. Oh, no, the other one is the girlfriend's chunky.

47:08🔗 Caller Go ahead, go ahead. We're listening.

47:10🔗 You're a heroin addict.

47:11🔗 David Alan Grier I don't do drugs.

47:13🔗 Drew No, I know.

47:15🔗 Caller Like, my only issue is I barely learned how to, like, orgasm and explore sexuality this year. And now I can't orgasm anymore.

47:22🔗 Caller Like, I use toys.

47:23🔗 Caller I'm seeing someone else.

47:25🔗 Drew Is it possible you need to have intimacy, have a person that you feel close to in order to feel sexual?

47:30🔗 Caller Well, I'm kind of have, like, I'm kind of seeing someone like that. Like, we're not together. We just have the thing going on.

47:38🔗 Drew And even that's not that's not really that. But that's not really closeness. That's just sort of.

47:42🔗 Caller Were you really in love with this other girl?

47:46🔗 Caller Like, kind of, but it was a big mind thing.

47:51🔗 Caller Oh, it was a big, it was a big mind thing.

47:52🔗 Drew So in retrospect, you're not in love with her.

47:54🔗 Caller I hear you. Yeah. No, it sounds like it was. So was it a crazy relationship? Really passionate? I love you. No, I don't. I do.

48:00🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

48:01🔗 Caller I love you. I hate you. Well, then that's what you need to get you get off.

48:04🔗 Drew Well, yeah. Unfortunately, you probably need that kind of chaos.

48:07🔗 Caller Yes.

48:08🔗 Caller Well, like, I went in therapy, so like, I don't want that anymore.

48:12🔗 Drew Good. Good girl.

48:13🔗 Caller Okay.

48:14🔗 Drew All right. You'll this will come along. When you feel comfortable in a real close, a genuine close relationship. I bet. And I and try to start working with the the spigots and things. We use water. Yeah.

48:25🔗 Caller I like the way the spigot. When was that term coined, Dr. Drew?

48:28🔗 Drew Let's see.

48:29🔗 Caller This is a Yocum said that.

48:30🔗 David Alan Grier This is the get your get your love bot near spigot like right near trough or whatever. And get a crook in a hose on a garden hose and get that spigot right on that love bump. And I'll tell you what, you will see stars.

48:47🔗 Drew Term spigot spigot. But 9, 980 BC.

48:51🔗 Caller Doesn't that doesn't sound like a derogatory term?

48:53🔗 Drew Yes.

48:54🔗 David Alan Grier You're a spigot. You make me sick. All you spigots.

48:58🔗 Caller So it's not like it's overstimulated. I could orgasm again.

49:01🔗 Drew Yes, you will. I promise you.

49:03🔗 Caller It's not broken. It's not broken.

49:05🔗 Caller OK, thank you.

49:06🔗 Caller Bye.

49:07🔗 Bye.

49:09🔗 Caller We have so many people.

49:11🔗 Drew Sarah 24.

49:12🔗 Hi.

49:13🔗 Drew Hey, what's up?

49:14🔗 Caller Hi, Sarah.

49:15🔗 OK, I have a quick question. I'm 24. Yes, I've had one live birth and then I also had a molar pregnancy about three years ago.

49:28🔗 Caller Is that a pregnancy in a tooth?

49:29🔗 Drew No, it's a mole pregnancy. It's just basically a big mole that gets bigger and bigger. Just a placenta and no baby.

49:37🔗 Caller OK, so it's not a big huge blackhead that pops and a little baby comes out?

49:41🔗 No.

49:41🔗 Caller All right, then.

49:42🔗 It's a baby that doesn't quite form all the way in the womb. Right.

49:45🔗 Drew It just leaves a placenta.

49:46🔗 Caller That's what that is.

49:47🔗 Caller All right.

49:48🔗 Drew And what's going on?

49:49🔗 Anyway, for about like the last 11 months or so, I'd say, about a week or two before my period is supposed to come, like my breasts will get really large and heavy. And I'll actually start lactating.

50:04🔗 Drew Nice.

50:05🔗 Caller My stomach will swell. And I've been to the doctor and had like my hormones checked.

50:11🔗 Drew Which ones?

50:12🔗 Caller My thyroid. I'm not sure which ones.

50:14🔗 Drew Because thyroid would be the most common cause of this.

50:18🔗 Caller Hypothyroid.

50:19🔗 Drew Did they check a pro-lactin level?

50:21🔗 Caller No.

50:22🔗 Drew Because the pro-lactin-secreting tumor is the pituitary gland also.

50:25🔗 Caller Is that when you say pro-lactin, these are the pro-professional women that lactate? Yeah.

50:29🔗 Drew Pro-lactors.

50:30🔗 Caller Pro-lactors.

50:32🔗 Drew And are you on a medication?

50:33🔗 Caller No, I'm not on any medication.

50:35🔗 Drew And do your breasts get a lot of stimulation? Because that can do this sometimes.

50:41🔗 Caller Not any more than average, I'd say.

50:43🔗 Drew Okay.

50:44🔗 Caller Let me ask you something. Before you went pro, did you get the semi-pro-lactin checked at all? JV pro-lactin?

50:52🔗 Drew Minor league.

50:52🔗 Minor league.

50:53🔗 Caller Triple-lactin?

50:54🔗 Drew Triple-lactin.

50:55🔗 Okay.

50:55🔗 Caller Okay. So your question is what?

51:00🔗 Drew Has the breast milk production persisted since your pregnancy?

51:06🔗 Caller Yeah. Like I said, this is just like the last 11 months or so that this has happened. My more like pregnancy, that was like three years ago.

51:13🔗 Drew And that was the last pregnancy?

51:14🔗 Caller Yeah.

51:15🔗 Drew All right. It's good you've had the hormones checked. Sometimes it's just the stimulation that does it, but you need to go back and talk to the doctor again. Try to come up with a firm…

51:22🔗 Caller What about the belly swelling? What's the…

51:24🔗 Drew I don't know. I can't make sense of this.

51:26🔗 Caller Maybe she's eating too much?

51:27🔗 Drew No. Maybe she's just thinking about that for a period. That's all.

51:29🔗 Caller Right.

51:30🔗 Drew People can get a swelling down.

51:31🔗 Caller And I know how that gets.

51:32🔗 Drew And 23.

51:33🔗 Caller Hi. I have two questions for you.

51:36🔗 Drew Yeah.

51:37🔗 Caller First one is, okay, I take baths with my 7-month-old baby. Yeah. You know, because it's easier. I'm just wondering, is that going to happen? And I walk around the house not wearing clothes.

51:48🔗 Is that going to have negative psychological effects on me?

51:50🔗 Drew No. No, that's fine.

51:52🔗 Caller Okay. When do I need to stop that?

51:54🔗 Caller When you're 17, perhaps?

51:57🔗 Drew It really is when they start to sort of individuate. When they, you know, they're very close to you and your body now.

52:01🔗 Caller I think it's not individuate. It's individuate at that date.

52:05🔗 Caller That's the proper term.

52:06🔗 Drew Okay, individuate at a date.

52:09🔗 Caller I think that's correct.

52:10🔗 Drew And at that point, when they start to see you as a separate person, you need to begin to establish boundaries and give them the, you know, sort of competencies of having their own bed and you have your bed. And that whole separation process, you know, that needs to happen and you allow it to happen.

52:23🔗 Caller Okay.

52:24🔗 Drew And then once it happens, you don't want to be standing in the shower with your kid necessarily.

52:28🔗 Caller So you're saying that this separation needs to happen and it's gonna happen. You should let it happen because if you don't let it happen, you got to want to happen and you haven't let it happen, then it's going to have to happen again in some other way.

52:42🔗 Drew I want to speak to Bales above.

52:43🔗 Caller Exactly.

52:44🔗 Caller He left the building.

52:45🔗 Drew He's I want to speak with him.

52:47🔗 Caller I can't thank you.

52:48🔗 Drew Bales above.

52:49🔗 Caller Yes.

52:50🔗 Drew Can you eat David Alan Grier's brain?

52:52🔗 Caller I've eaten it already.

52:53🔗 Okay.

52:54🔗 Caller There's nothing there. Okay.

52:56🔗 Drew This is nothing. Jane, who's 19.

52:58🔗 Where's the fat woman who brings the darkness?

53:01🔗 Drew Jane?

53:02🔗 Yes?

53:03🔗 Caller What's up? I got drunk on Saturday night and I lost my virginity to a guy that I just met that night and I am currently dating another guy but I haven't had sex with him.

53:17🔗 Drew What's the plan here, buddy?

53:19🔗 Caller I don't know. That's why I'm calling you.

53:22🔗 Caller Well, how do you feel about the whole way that you lost your virginity?

53:27🔗 Caller Like, I don't necessarily regret it. I just more so like this the guy that I'm currently dating is like really has developed feelings for me but I haven't so much.

53:42🔗 Drew This was an attempt to sabotage this.

53:45🔗 Caller You want to tell them, don't you?

53:47🔗 Drew Oh, yeah.

53:47🔗 Caller You want to tell them.

53:48🔗 Caller Yeah, don't do that. I want to tell him. Why? I want to be honest with them.

53:51🔗 David Alan Grier But why do you want to?

53:52🔗 Drew I got to be honest. Jane, do you want to just kill? Why do you just be honest and tell them you want to kill it?

53:58🔗 Caller You better sit down because I just blew a sailor last Saturday night. I have to tell you because I love you so much. You're awesome. And it just happened.

54:11🔗 Caller Why do you want to tell them that?

54:12🔗 Drew Here's what's honest. I'm not into you.

54:15🔗 Caller There you go.

54:15🔗 Drew That's what's honest. This, what you've done, is completely dishonest as a way of sort of getting yourself out of having to tell him your true feelings. Because you better goddamn well know as soon as you tell him what you've done, you will crush him and he'll be gone. But you will crush him as opposed to, you know, I'm done. Then you can do whatever you want.

54:35🔗 Caller And tell her it's a completely selfish act. This has nothing to do.

54:41🔗 Drew When you make amends that harm other people, that is not making amends.

54:45🔗 David Alan Grier Dr. Drew Hyatt, it's David.

54:47🔗 Caller I banged your sister about four years ago when we were in San Gag. I'm sober now, I just want to let you know.

54:56🔗 Drew Not a good thing. I'll be right over.

54:58🔗 Caller I squeezed one off. It was in the back seat of the minivan when we were going to day camp. And I never cleaned the seat.

55:08🔗 Drew The one that I sat on?

55:09🔗 Caller Yeah. I feel bad about that. I puked in your shoes, you know, those high top snake skin platform boots. You always had that funky watermelon smell.

55:21🔗 Drew In the 70s?

55:22🔗 Caller I puked at them. I'm sober now. I'm sorry.

55:30🔗 Drew Jane?

55:31🔗 Caller I drew a picture of my wife on your notebook when you were in Sunday school. I was sober now and I just want to let you know. What are your triplets with the kinky hair? Maybe my kid. It happened about 12 years ago.

55:53🔗 Drew I remember what you were doing there. I wonder what you were doing there when I met you in line at the fertility clinic.

55:58🔗 Caller She's crudles. I'm sober now and I just want to make amends.

56:04🔗 Drew You told me.

56:05🔗 Caller I stole your down payment for the boat and spent it on reefer and viking. I'm a sober now and I just want to let you know.

56:18🔗 Drew You've had those calls, yes?

56:20🔗 There you go.

56:24🔗 Caller I just have one more question.

56:26🔗 Drew No, wait, I have a question for you. Is there any chance you're pregnant?

56:29🔗 Caller No, he used condoms, but I have to go to work tomorrow. The thing is, I work with this guy.

56:36🔗 Caller What guy? The guy you hooked up with?

56:38🔗 Caller No, the guy that I've been dating.

56:41🔗 Drew You tell him at work, you don't.

56:42🔗 Caller He doesn't know. What? I mean, why?

56:44🔗 Drew Tell him at work, you've got to talk to him at the end of work. Don't put him on pins and needles. Treat him nicely and just go, look, this isn't working for me and that's that. Let's see if you can do this.

56:54🔗 Caller Call us tomorrow. Call us tomorrow and tell us how it went.

56:56🔗 Drew All right.

56:57🔗 Caller Are you sure? You want me to be smart?

56:58🔗 Drew Yeah, of course.

56:59🔗 Caller How it went?

57:00🔗 Yeah, of course.

57:01🔗 Caller So it's better than not.

57:03🔗 Caller You don't tell him what happened.

57:05🔗 Drew Do not tell him what you did. It would be cruel.

57:08🔗 Caller OK.

57:08🔗 Hey, stay on the hole. We'll get your number.

57:10🔗 Drew Yeah, stay on the hole. The Anderson's got you covered.

57:12🔗 Caller Let's do a little side bet. A little side bet.

57:13🔗 Is she going to tell him?

57:15🔗 Caller I'm going to say she is. No, I'm going to say she is.

57:17🔗 Drew She is going to tell him? Yeah, she is going to tell him. I'm going to say, my bet is she doesn't say anything.

57:22🔗 Caller No, I'm going to say she's going to break up with him.

57:24🔗 Drew She calls us and doesn't get anything done.

57:26🔗 Caller I'm going to say that she's going to tell him.

57:28🔗 Drew All right, I'll bet.

57:28🔗 Caller $5.

57:30🔗 Drew Joe at $26.

57:31🔗 Good stuff.

57:32🔗 Drew What's happening?

57:33🔗 Caller Excuse me, Joe, another person here named David.

57:37🔗 You're the one I actually wanted to talk to.

57:39🔗 David Alan Grier Oh, now he says so. I heard, hey, Dr. Drew, how you doing?

57:43🔗 Drew He was just dismissing me.

57:44🔗 David Alan Grier Kids, how's the practice?

57:46🔗 Drew Dismissing me.

57:46🔗 David Alan Grier You know what?

57:47🔗 Caller I don't even want to talk to you now.

57:48🔗 David Alan Grier Go talk to your friend, Dr. Drew, your buddy.

57:51🔗 I'm sorry, Doug. Anyway, I can't hear you.

57:54🔗 Caller I can't hear you.

57:56🔗 You're coming to my school next month, and I unknowingly made plans to be out of town that weekend. I was wondering what your show is going to entail and what I'm going to miss.

58:04🔗 Caller Well, you'll never know now, will you? You'll never know now. It's called Big Secrets.

58:08🔗 Caller What is your school?

58:10🔗 It's called Governor State.

58:11🔗 Caller Yes, sir.

58:12🔗 Drew What state is that in?

58:12🔗 Canary. Dag's coming on the 21st.

58:15🔗 Drew What state?

58:15🔗 Caller Illinois?

58:16🔗 Yeah, south of Chicago.

58:18🔗 Caller Yes, sir. Now, how old are you again?

58:20🔗 I'm 26.

58:21🔗 Caller What happened, buddy? Why are you still in school?

58:24🔗 I'm actually getting ready to start grad school, but...

58:26🔗 Caller Okay.

58:27🔗 Drew In what?

58:28🔗 Caller A PA program.

58:30🔗 Drew PA? Physicians' assistant?

58:31🔗 Yeah. All right.

58:33🔗 Caller Now, where are you going that's so important that you can't see Daggeroni?

58:36🔗 I'm actually going on a grad school interview in another part of the country.

58:40🔗 Drew Dude, Daggeroni, I'm sorry.

58:41🔗 Caller I didn't mean to do it. I totally planned on being there, but...

58:44🔗 Caller I just... I'm just really fragile now with the holidays. Dr. Drew, let's save some babies, man. I just... Can I step out for a minute? Because, you know, I just get this hurt, you know?

58:52🔗 Caller The guy said, I want to see you, but not that much, you know?

58:55🔗 Caller And right now, I'm feeling abandoned.

58:57🔗 David Alan Grier I'm feeling like, you know, he doesn't really care.

58:59🔗 Caller And I think I'm going to act out.

59:01🔗 Worship the cloven-hoofed Prince of Darkness!

59:04🔗 Drew Where is he, indeed?

59:06🔗 Caller Come and join us, David.

59:07🔗 Drew Thank you.

59:07🔗 Caller Come and join us.

59:09🔗 Drew Josh Twainhine.

59:11🔗 Caller Hi.

59:12🔗 Drew Hey, what's up?

59:13🔗 David Alan Grier What's up?

59:14🔗 Caller Not much. I have a question for you, Drew. I was a heroin addict and I went through a detox that in Mexico because it's not legal in the US.

59:23🔗 Drew You're a heroin addict. The detox or the treatment?

59:26🔗 Caller I went to a detox. It's called Ibogaine.

59:29🔗 Drew Oh, Ibogaine, yeah.

59:30🔗 Caller What is that?

59:31🔗 Drew It's a hallucinogen from Africa that's used some places in the world.

59:35🔗 Caller That sounds like fun.

59:35🔗 Drew Lots of problems with that. I've treated a number of patients and went through that.

59:38🔗 Caller What kind of problems?

59:39🔗 Drew Well, let's talk Josh first. I'll take him. So what's happening?

59:43🔗 Caller Ever since then, I've gotten my sex drive back, but my orgasms are really, really strange. One, they're really fast now, and two, when I come, it basically drips out whereas before I could definitely shoot.

1:00:01🔗 Drew Yeah. How long ago did you take it?

1:00:05🔗 Caller It's been two months now.

1:00:08🔗 Drew Here's my experience of the Ibogaine, and I don't mean to really rain on the parade as Dag would say, but it works for about three months, and every single patient I've seen that went through this goes back to heroin, but it does work for three months, but the cost is permanent neurologic change. Really? Yeah. They're not the same. They're not. It is a profoundly powerful hallucination.

1:00:29🔗 Caller And how do they administer it?

1:00:32🔗 Drew Ask him. I think it's sort of a pill form.

1:00:37🔗 Caller Pill form. And how many times did you take it? Like, how long was your detox?

1:00:42🔗 Caller Basically, I took it in the evening, and the next day I was fine.

1:00:48🔗 Caller So you took it one time?

1:00:49🔗 Caller I was a little bit tired. They gave me, each day after, they gave me a booster, but it wasn't like, you wouldn't go on the hallucinogenic trip.

1:00:59🔗 Caller But how many days?

1:01:02🔗 Caller I mean, I was at the center for five days.

1:01:06🔗 Drew Well, hopefully, maybe they've improved the dosing, the way they do this, or there's some change in what they're doing, but I hope you stay sober.

1:01:16🔗 David Alan Grier Yeah, don't be a drip.

1:01:18🔗 And I hope, and I hope that... Beelzebub?

1:01:28🔗 Caller Yes, Dr. Drew.

1:01:28🔗 Drew Thank you, thank you.

1:01:29🔗 David Alan Grier Sorry.

1:01:30🔗 Drew I'm going to call upon you now and then just to help you stay with it.

1:01:32🔗 Caller Yes.

1:01:32🔗 Drew I appreciate it.

1:01:33🔗 Caller Have a bad day.

1:01:33🔗 Drew Thanks. And the, I hope these problems that you're sort of experiencing go back towards normal, but it has been my experience that people have some changes in their personalities, some changes in their mood stability, changes like Josh is describing and they go back to the opiates in every single case I've seen.

1:01:50🔗 Caller So hold on. Is that what Whitney Houston did in Africa?

1:01:53🔗 Drew Oh, did she do something like that?

1:01:54🔗 Caller I don't know. I'm asking. She went to Africa.

1:01:55🔗 Drew To get a treatment?

1:01:56🔗 Caller That's, yeah.

1:01:58🔗 Drew Maybe that's why she changed.

1:02:00🔗 David Alan Grier Wow.

1:02:01🔗 Caller That's interesting.

1:02:02🔗 Drew Yeah, it is interesting, huh? Okay. This is Jonathan, 18, with David Alan Grier, 1-800-LOVE-191.

1:02:09🔗 David Alan Grier Johnny!

1:02:12🔗 Drew Jonathan?

1:02:13🔗 Caller I think I'm scaring people.

1:02:14🔗 Drew Yeah, I think you are. What's up, buddy?

1:02:16🔗 Um, nothing.

1:02:17🔗 Drew Here you go. You're on the air.

1:02:19🔗 I'm on the air?

1:02:20🔗 Drew Yes.

1:02:22🔗 Caller Um, my sister, she, my sister kind of, she, my step-sister comes on to me and she, she likes, like, she forces me to.

1:02:34🔗 Drew I'm, I'm, uh, what do they call it when they bring on the international laws?

1:02:38🔗 David Alan Grier The thing is, um...

1:02:40🔗 Drew International laws of bogosity are being, uh, what's it called?

1:02:42🔗 Caller The Geneva Convention?

1:02:43🔗 Drew Yeah, the Geneva Convention. What does it call when you, when you, when you call upon them?

1:02:46🔗 Caller I don't know, but it's very boring right now.

1:02:48🔗 Drew I'm invoking, I'm invoking the international laws of bogosity here, Jonathan. Let's go. You know the law.

1:02:55🔗 Caller I know, I know this, but she comes, she's not really related to me and...

1:02:58🔗 Caller You know......on it.

1:03:02🔗 It sounds funny, it sounds funny, but it's crazy.

1:03:06🔗 Drew You violated the international laws.

1:03:08🔗 Caller Can't they have acting, bogus call, acting lessons?

1:03:10🔗 Drew Jonathan, the law is you have to, when you have a bogus, it's fun to have, it's fine to have a bogus call, but A, it has to be good, B, you have to sell it, and C, if we call you on it, you have to fess up. That's the rule again.

1:03:23🔗 Caller You know what? You fess up now, and you know you live to be bogus another day. Okay, so do you have something you want to tell us?

1:03:29🔗 Drew That's the law.

1:03:29🔗 Caller Do you have something you want to tell us?

1:03:33🔗 Caller Meet my girlfriend.

1:03:35🔗 David Alan Grier Oh my God. Liar, liar whore, liar whore, and you know it.

1:03:39🔗 Caller It's like a telemarketer.

1:03:42🔗 Drew Neelam, 23.

1:03:44🔗 Hello.

1:03:45🔗 Drew Hi, what's up?

1:03:48🔗 Yeah, I've been with this guy for two years, but he's afraid of commitment.

1:03:53🔗 Drew He's been with him for two years, how afraid could he be?

1:03:55🔗 Caller That's right.

1:03:57🔗 I want to ride the pony, daddy.

1:03:59🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:03:59🔗 Caller Wow.

1:04:00🔗 Drew That's the voice.

1:04:01🔗 Caller Yeah. The voice.

1:04:04🔗 Whenever I ask him about getting married, he would say, I'm not ready right now.

1:04:11🔗 Drew Well, that's for sure. Neither are you.

1:04:13🔗 Caller Well, how old are you?

1:04:14🔗 Drew 23.

1:04:15🔗 Caller How old's the guy?

1:04:18🔗 Drew How old is the guy? Neilam. What's she doing?

1:04:24🔗 Caller I don't know.

1:04:25🔗 Drew Turn your radio off. Neilam. Next caller.

1:04:27🔗 Caller Next caller, please. I have a lot of things to do. I don't have time.

1:04:31🔗 Drew Take call for you, Nick. 22.

1:04:33🔗 Yeah. Hi. I'm a huge fan of actually both you guys. I've been listening to Loveline since I was really young, but I just had a question for Mr. Grier.

1:04:46🔗 Caller Yes, sir.

1:04:47🔗 I'm a stand up comedian myself here in Chicago. I've been doing it for about two and a half years. I just wanted to take this opportunity first just to say how much I respect, not only your comedic work, but also your work as an actor.

1:05:02🔗 Caller Thank you.

1:05:04🔗 Just the variety and just very, very good. I'm sorry. I'm a little nervous. But I just wanted to ask you if you had any advice for kind of an up-and-coming guy. I want to take advantage of the fact that I'm living in a city right now that's very embracing.

1:05:22🔗 Caller You're in a great city for comedy. You should do as much stage time as you can. You should write as much as you can. You should try to perform every night three, four times a night if there are that many rooms. Wow. Also try doing improv.

1:05:37🔗 Drew Did you do that before you were trained at Yale?

1:05:41🔗 Caller I did stand up at Yale, but then when I really started I would go and we'd do rooms as many as you could, sometimes three and four spots.

1:05:48🔗 How old were you?

1:05:49🔗 Caller It was after I graduated, so I was like 24, but actually I didn't really start until I had a career. So I stand in the Laugh Factory, in the line, you stand there and I did an open mic night. You could only do it once a month. So within that month, I come back the next month and four commercials I had done had come on and this movie I had done had come on and this homeless guy who was there the first time, he goes, geez, you really blew up. I never had the heart to tell him that I had a career, that it didn't just happen in a month, but you gotta work, you gotta work really hard. That's what you gotta do. You gotta do stage time, perform to as many different audiences. If you kill with just drunk white guys, then perform for old fat black ladies. I mean, do all that stuff.

1:06:35🔗 What do you think about the scene in general about stand-up comedy right now? I feel that kind of in the 80s, it was new, it was up and coming. People were embracing it in a different way than I feel that they are now.

1:06:51🔗 Caller Well, you have to come with the new, baby. You got to come with it. You got to come with the new voice. It's always people are begging for new talent. I've been doing stand-up for like 15 years now.

1:07:01🔗 Drew Do what the DAG does, do cheers, do songs, little Barbara Streisand.

1:07:06🔗 Caller Yes, but you got to get out there, man. It's beautiful. It is lovely. But they're the same headliners for 15 years. They need new faces, so do it. Good luck.

1:07:16🔗 Drew Sarah 26.

1:07:18🔗 Caller Hi, hi, Dr. Drew, I want to tell you I love your show, but David, you're so obnoxious. I can't hear anything you're saying.

1:07:24🔗 Caller Oh, how dare you? How dare you? What do you want to say? Go ahead, the floor is yours, go.

1:07:29🔗 Caller Thank you so much.

1:07:30🔗 Caller Hi, I had heard that there was a pill that you could take after about two months.

1:07:37🔗 Drew Two months.

1:07:39🔗 Caller Please don't ever have him on your show again, because you can't hear anything.

1:07:43🔗 Caller Thank you.

1:07:44🔗 Caller All right, go ahead, it's your floor. Everybody, it's all silent, and we're going to just listen. I really apologize, and sometimes I get carried away, I didn't take my meds tonight. It's all your floor.

1:07:55🔗 Go, right now, go.

1:07:57🔗 Drew Sarah, she's gone.

1:07:59🔗 Caller She hung up.

1:08:00🔗 Caller Well, see? Give him a chance.

1:08:03🔗 Drew Well, she was talking about a pill you can take after two months. There is an abortion pill for that. There are medical ways to induce abortion. There have been some recent problems with that where women get infections and bleeding and things, so it needs to be done carefully. The morning after pill, which is what we talk about here, is something you take within three days of an unprotected sexual encounter, and that will reduce the risk of pregnancy substantially, and that works by not causing an abortion, not interfering with the implantation, but preventing ovulation, just the way birth control pills do when you take them every day, just not as effective as the ones you take every day.

1:08:33🔗 Caller I don't think you answered her question because you didn't let her ask her question because you're too busy talking. Who's obnoxious now?

1:08:39🔗 Drew OK, me.

1:08:39🔗 Caller Nuff said.

1:08:40🔗 Drew And this is David Alan Grier and Biel Zabub and Dr. Drew at Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191. We're taking a little break. Hey, it's Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191. He's David Alan Grier, and he's obnoxious, and we can't hear when he's here, and he's got too much energy, and people from San Francisco don't like him.

1:08:58🔗 Caller Well, I'm gonna be quiet now.

1:09:00🔗 Drew They're racist. I think they are. I hate black people. I think that's it.

1:09:03🔗 Caller Well, this is it.

1:09:04🔗 Drew What else is it gonna be?

1:09:05🔗 Caller I'm gonna be quiet now, so you hang up.

1:09:07🔗 Drew I want you to... I miss the cheers. I miss the...

1:09:10🔗 Caller Well, it's none of that.

1:09:11🔗 Drew What?

1:09:11🔗 Caller Drew, Dave, I got a friend who lives in San Francisco, and she says every time she sees David Alan Grier, she just thinks he's really, really sad, and she feels really bad for him.

1:09:19🔗 She doesn't know why.

1:09:21🔗 Caller On the street?

1:09:22🔗 Caller No, like, every time she sees you on TV or anything, she's like, he just seems so sad.

1:09:26🔗 Caller Sad?

1:09:27🔗 Caller That's what she said. That's great.

1:09:28🔗 Drew That's what I think of, I think of Dave.

1:09:29🔗 Caller I have a gun in my car.

1:09:30🔗 Drew I'm going to be bumpy. I'm going to be bumpy. I think sad, uncomfortable, miserable.

1:09:34🔗 Caller Oh, man.

1:09:35🔗 Caller She's seeing through something.

1:09:36🔗 Drew Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1:09:38🔗 Caller She sees through the tears.

1:09:40🔗 Drew The tears of a clown.

1:09:42🔗 Caller Oh, man, this is a tough Monday, boy.

1:09:47🔗 Caller Anderson.

1:09:47🔗 Drew Dude.

1:09:48🔗 Caller That's why he always loses my drops. What's the point? He's like, I lost it. Sorry. Sorry, sad man. Where are you going with this? We don't need any of your sadness here today.

1:09:55🔗 Caller Because she's from San Francisco, too.

1:09:56🔗 Caller Yeah. You thought it was hilarious.

1:09:58🔗 David Alan Grier He's like, tell that thing again about Dag being sad.

1:10:05🔗 Caller How dare you?

1:10:06🔗 Drew Here's Mike, 27. Mike?

1:10:09🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:09🔗 Drew What's up?

1:10:10🔗 Caller How are you doing?

1:10:11🔗 Drew We're good.

1:10:12🔗 Caller All right.

1:10:14🔗 Caller My question was for Dr. Drew.

1:10:16🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:10:17🔗 Caller My fiance is 34. She had a tubal ligation procedure where they took, I guess it's like a rubber band. They basically put it around the fallopian tube.

1:10:28🔗 Drew Correct.

1:10:28🔗 Caller It's basically like it's not cut or burned.

1:10:34🔗 Drew They didn't cut or burn. Okay.

1:10:35🔗 Caller No.

1:10:37🔗 Caller What I'm trying to find out is, she was very fertile before her procedure. I mean, all of her kids were accidents.

1:10:47🔗 Drew I'm not... Mike, what is the question?

1:10:49🔗 Caller The question is, if she gets that reverse, what are the statistics or the chances on a successful...

1:10:58🔗 Drew I don't know. You need to find out what kind of procedure was done and a gynecologist could tell you that. Many of these are reversible, but even if it's not reversible, you could get eggs harvested, put in the uterus, and you can basically skip over the tubes.

1:11:13🔗 Caller But how is the baby going to get down the tube? Because it gets to the knot where the rubber band is. What does it do then?

1:11:18🔗 Drew You take the rubber band off and let it go, or you suck the eggs off, it sucks the eggs out.

1:11:24🔗 Caller No, you said suck the eggs off. Is that...

1:11:27🔗 Drew Whatever.

1:11:28🔗 Caller What is wrong with you?

1:11:29🔗 Drew I know, it's bad. I'm not bad.

1:11:31🔗 Caller I just wanted to say that I think your guest is probably one of the funniest people I've ever heard in my life.

1:11:37🔗 Caller Thank you so much.

1:11:38🔗 Drew Thank you.

1:11:39🔗 David Alan Grier God bless you. No more devil stuff for you, muster. You're going to win a million dollars tomorrow.

1:11:44🔗 Drew But Mike, there are procedures, fertility procedures, where they take the eggs out, they can implant it in certain places, sometimes in the tubes, sometimes in the uterus, sometimes they can fertilize the eggs before they put them in. There's a lot of things that can be done that can bypass the tubes, okay?

1:11:57🔗 David Alan Grier He likes me.

1:11:58🔗 David Alan Grier He really likes me.

1:12:00🔗 David Alan Grier I hope you heard that, Anderson.

1:12:02🔗 Drew Ashley, how about you? 20.

1:12:03🔗 Hi, yes. I just wanted to say that David Alan Grier, you're not stupid. Thank you.

1:12:10🔗 Caller That was my first wife. She didn't want to go there, so.

1:12:13🔗 No, no.

1:12:14🔗 Caller Don't even trip. She's just, she's hating. She's hating.

1:12:16🔗 Caller Thank you, baby.

1:12:17🔗 Drew Don't trip on it.

1:12:18🔗 Caller Keep up the good work. I've seen some of your stuff, and you're beautiful.

1:12:21🔗 Drew Oh, Ashley. Yeah, you're going. You're getting there.

1:12:24🔗 Caller Oh, and Dr. Drew, I want you to know that I really look up to you.

1:12:27🔗 You're so intelligent and intellectual.

1:12:30🔗 Caller You're like one of my like cool people up there.

1:12:33🔗 Caller So, yeah, there goes her credibility.

1:12:35🔗 Caller Well, I know you got anybody else you want to compliment Anderson?

1:12:38🔗 Caller Well, I promise I'm not trying to kiss, but you know, I think you are.

1:12:41🔗 Caller And the thing you are a genius to where you place the buttons, your pool, your tie. Keep doing your good work. OK.

1:12:46🔗 Drew Here's Jenny, 22.

1:12:48🔗 Caller Hi.

1:12:49🔗 Drew Hey, Jenny, what's up?

1:12:50🔗 Caller Oh, I have a quick question. Good. I just recently got married in like September and I found out that my husband has a premature ejaculation.

1:13:02🔗 Drew Oh, so it's not a question that we're going to finish in a short period of time.

1:13:05🔗 Caller It's a question about quick.

1:13:07🔗 Drew It's a quick question. Yeah, it's about quick. I get it. A quick question. OK.

1:13:11🔗 Caller Like how did you just found out? Wait a minute, you just found out?

1:13:15🔗 Caller No, well, they told me that's what it was and I didn't know what it was at the beginning. I thought it was normal.

1:13:23🔗 Caller Is this the first guy you've ever been with?

1:13:26🔗 Caller Yes.

1:13:27🔗 Drew How long does he go before he's done?

1:13:29🔗 Caller Like within a minute, two minute range.

1:13:33🔗 Caller So it's like, yeah, yeah.

1:13:35🔗 Drew Oh, this is David on Greer Time. Can you, can he do it a second time?

1:13:40🔗 Caller Sometimes.

1:13:41🔗 Drew And how long does that one take?

1:13:44🔗 Caller It takes much longer.

1:13:45🔗 Drew All right. Well, there you go. They work with it.

1:13:47🔗 Caller You work on the squeeze one off first by himself. Yeah.

1:13:51🔗 Drew It's good. It's fine. Plus there's going to be some medications available, something called dual oxy. No. What's it called?

1:13:57🔗 Caller Oh, it's a permanent thing. It just has to work around it.

1:14:00🔗 Drew Yes. Every man has to work with it. Is it permanent? Yeah. Every man kind of has his clock. Well, it gets longer as he gets older. But every man kind of has his clock. And some guys it takes too long, some are too short. But there is a medicine that's going to help.

1:14:13🔗 Caller Isn't that medicine called tequila?

1:14:16🔗 Drew No. It's actually a serotonin. It's not really an up-rept. It's a serotonin agonist, I think. Antagonist. No, agonist.

1:14:22🔗 Caller I think it's the serotonin antagonistatiousness.

1:14:25🔗 Drew And it's going to make guys go longer. And it's a short-acting medicine so you can take it for like half an hour and it's out of your system.

1:14:31🔗 Caller So you're saying it's a short-acting medication that makes you last longer.

1:14:35🔗 Drew That's what I'm saying. So you gotta go short if you want to go long. It's long for the ejaculation, short for medication duration.

1:14:42🔗 Caller Is it a long time to get this medication? That's quick-acting, but it takes a long time?

1:14:46🔗 Drew The FDA is in the process of approving it.

1:14:47🔗 Caller Is that going to be a short or long process?

1:14:49🔗 Drew Long process. For a short medicine, for a long ejaculation.

1:14:52🔗 Caller If the FDA really approved it quickly, would they be premature approval organizations?

1:14:58🔗 Drew Yes.

1:14:59🔗 Caller Is there a cure for that?

1:15:01🔗 Drew Yeah, a new administration.

1:15:02🔗 Caller Okay. Was that going to be longer or shorter?

1:15:04🔗 Drew Longer.

1:15:04🔗 Caller Okay.

1:15:05🔗 Next caller!

1:15:06🔗 Drew Lindsay, 21.

1:15:08🔗 Caller Lindsay?

1:15:09🔗 Drew Hey.

1:15:10🔗 Caller Yeah. Hi. What's up there?

1:15:12🔗 Caller I just recently moved in with a guy about in the summer, and we were in a relationship, and then we started fooling around and having sex about all the time, about five minutes.

1:15:22🔗 Drew Hold on, hold on, hold on. You were in a relationship, that's why you moved in?

1:15:25🔗 Caller No, I wasn't in a relationship. I didn't know him. Yeah, I didn't know him, and then I moved in.

1:15:31🔗 Drew So then you decided you liked him.

1:15:33🔗 Caller Yeah, I liked him a lot, and I thought he knew it because everyone, it seemed everyone thought we were together, and so we were fooling around a lot and everything, and then I had talked to him about it, and he said that he just wasn't sure if it was a good idea since we were living together, so I decided to move out, and then now that I've moved out and everything, and like plans were to move out, he just, one day he told me like last week that he's just, oh, he just wants to be friends now.

1:16:03🔗 Drew Right, so what's your question? He's been in the friends with benefit modes all along. He never said, I want a relationship. He said, he wants you out of here. I mean, that's not the way a guy behaves that wants a relationship. That's the way a guy behaves that's having sex, likes having sex with you, and that's it. Men have sex without feeling, routinely.

1:16:20🔗 Caller That's true, that's what makes us.

1:16:21🔗 Caller For that long now?

1:16:23🔗 Drew What's that?

1:16:24🔗 Caller For that long?

1:16:25🔗 Drew Indefinitely, indefinitely.

1:16:27🔗 Caller How long were you guys hittin it?

1:16:30🔗 Caller Oh, about four months, since I moved in.

1:16:34🔗 Drew Now, the friends with benefit things, sometimes guys get sucked into that and the women don't.

1:16:38🔗 Caller Sucked into that, interesting.

1:16:39🔗 Drew Yeah, I keep using that word, huh?

1:16:40🔗 Caller No, I mean like sucked into it, like just like a vortex.

1:16:44🔗 Drew Okay.

1:16:44🔗 Caller Relationship vortex.

1:16:46🔗 Drew Yes, it's a, the friends with benefit.

1:16:47🔗 Caller So he had absolutely no feeling for me?

1:16:49🔗 Drew Correct, just cause he was having sex doesn't mean a damn thing.

1:16:52🔗 Caller This is tough love. Did he ever tell you that he loved you and stuff?

1:16:57🔗 Caller No, but he told me that he was scared about me and I wanted to move back home.

1:17:01🔗 Drew He cares about you like a friend. And listen, Lizzie, if there's one lesson you learned from this, do not think that a guy having sex is experiencing anything like what you're experiencing.

1:17:12🔗 Caller Unless he says that.

1:17:13🔗 Drew Unless he says it. He can't think that men are capable of it, but they very often, particularly in their 20s, for the most part, are disconnected from their emotional experience when they're having sex.

1:17:23🔗 Caller Okay?

1:17:24🔗 Caller Alright.

1:17:27🔗 Drew We couldn't hear you. What was that?

1:17:30🔗 Caller I thought, I don't know.

1:17:32🔗 Drew I know you thought you thought a man's mind worked like yours does. It doesn't. It doesn't. The male and female brains are very, very different. Now, women-

1:17:40🔗 Caller They're bigger and we have more junk in them.

1:17:42🔗 Drew No, we have less going on in them. Really? Oh, yes.

1:17:44🔗 Caller I didn't know that.

1:17:45🔗 Drew Women have a much broader spectrum of their responsiveness and their experiences. Some women are more towards the male spectrum, and some women are an entirely different sort of functioning.

1:17:53🔗 Caller You know what? I constantly meet women, and it's always the chick who goes, I'm like a dude. They're never like dudes.

1:18:01🔗 Drew No, never quite, but they're more in that spectrum.

1:18:03🔗 David Alan Grier They never are. In two weeks, they're like, let's get married.

1:18:08🔗 Drew No, I would beg different that, because I've seen the functional MRI material, and most women are sort of very different than men in terms of their drives and what triggers their drives. But some women, you can see that they're having similar kinds of drive, sexual drive, appetite in response to similar stimuli to men.

1:18:24🔗 Caller So you're saying that there are different people make up this crazy quilt of the world we live in.

1:18:29🔗 Drew That men are basically pretty much the same. That little piece of Y chromosome, that little, that's a very little tiny bit of genetic material makes us pretty much all the same. Those two huge X chromosomes make all the women very, very different.

1:18:41🔗 Caller So all men are the same, all women are different.

1:18:44🔗 Drew For the most part.

1:18:44🔗 Caller How dare you.

1:18:45🔗 Drew This is Stephanie, 21.

1:18:46🔗 Caller I'm different.

1:18:47🔗 Caller Hi, I'm just curious, my breasts are always sore and sensitive.

1:18:54🔗 Caller And I was wondering if there's any vitamin or medication or anything I can do to stop them from being sensitive.

1:19:02🔗 Drew Are you on medication?

1:19:04🔗 Caller Am I?

1:19:04🔗 Caller Paxilobutrin.

1:19:06🔗 Drew Okay. Well, that will be one of those, I think what butrichococosal tenders, has it been since you've been on the medicines?

1:19:13🔗 Caller Pretty much.

1:19:14🔗 Drew Do you want anything else?

1:19:16🔗 Caller No. Uh-uh.

1:19:17🔗 Drew No over-the-counter medicines or anything like that?

1:19:20🔗 Caller No, not...

1:19:22🔗 Caller No, I haven't taken anything in a week or more.

1:19:24🔗 Drew What were you taking before?

1:19:25🔗 Caller Like ibuprofen.

1:19:27🔗 Drew Do you take anything for your stomach? Do you take anything for your stomach? Take Tagamet or something like that?

1:19:32🔗 Caller No.

1:19:32🔗 Drew Uh-uh. I have to look it up to the truth, but psychotropic medications, I think Wellbutrin can do this, can often cause breast milk production, cause tenderness in the breast, that kind of thing. So I would sort of be talking to your doctor about that.

1:19:46🔗 Caller Okay.

1:19:47🔗 Caller Okay, thank you.

1:19:48🔗 Caller Is it common to prescribe Wellbutrin if you're trying to quit smoking?

1:19:52🔗 Drew Yes.

1:19:53🔗 Caller Really?

1:19:53🔗 Drew It works.

1:19:54🔗 Caller Really?

1:19:55🔗 Drew Yeah, in fact, the literature has pretty clear that if you use the nicotine replacement, the patches, the gums, the lus, all that stuff, during the first two weeks of abstinence and then kick in the Xyband, you have the highest probability of success with sustained nicotine abstinence.

1:20:10🔗 Caller You know, I had a girlfriend when I was like in like 10th grade, you know, and she went on birth control pills and her breasts blew up and they got so sensitive you couldn't even blow on them.

1:20:22🔗 David Alan Grier Very sensitive.

1:20:23🔗 Drew That's whatever you're into, but anyway, they're...

1:20:26🔗 David Alan Grier Did Dr. Drew just tell a jokey?

1:20:29🔗 David Alan Grier Someone told a jokey.

1:20:33🔗 David Alan Grier If that's what you're into, hey, of course I'm into it, knucklehead.

1:20:38🔗 Drew So, but yes, there are some women, interesting enough that we'll have, the women always call this show, how to make my breasts bigger. Are those all these pills? No, birth control pills sometimes, particularly those that are more estrogenic, will cause breast growth in some women.

1:20:50🔗 Caller That's estrogenic, is the real term.

1:20:52🔗 Drew I think it's nethanil estradiol.

1:20:54🔗 Caller Nester-ba-bus-ca-trill-ee-ay-ney-ska-ba-duh-ska-ba-deh-deh-ne-ney. Let's take another caller.

1:21:00🔗 Drew I just wonder if nethanil's out on the porch.

1:21:02🔗 David Alan Grier Ethanil, Ethanil, bring your way.

1:21:07🔗 David Alan Grier Sitting in this house, next caller.

1:21:10🔗 Drew We gotta take a break. 1-800-LOVE-1-9-1, that's-

1:21:13🔗 Caller I want the mean lady to call back from San Francisco.

1:21:16🔗 Drew Sarah, Sarah from San Francisco, give us a call.

1:21:18🔗 David Alan Grier Please, I love you.

1:21:19🔗 Drew David wants to make his case to you.

1:21:21🔗 Caller I want you to be my wife.

1:21:23🔗 Drew Oh, he loves abuse.

1:21:24🔗 David Alan Grier I do, I love it.

1:21:25🔗 Caller Shut up!

1:21:27🔗 David Alan Grier No, I won't.

1:21:28🔗 Drew Alright, we'll be right back.

1:21:41🔗 Caller This is Loveline.

1:21:45🔗 Drew That's right, it's Loveline, he's David Allenger, it's We Go Down.

1:21:53🔗 Caller I think I've fallen in love tonight, Dr. Drew.

1:21:55🔗 Drew With Sarah in San Francisco?

1:21:56🔗 Caller Sarah from San Francisco.

1:22:00🔗 David Alan Grier Call me back.

1:22:02🔗 Caller It's a love match made in heaven.

1:22:06🔗 Drew Let's talk first to David 23. There you go, David. Here we are.

1:22:13🔗 Caller Is this me?

1:22:15🔗 Drew This is you.

1:22:15🔗 Caller All right. Here's my question. I'm 23 years old. I have an ex-girlfriend that is 23 years old, all right? After me, she had claimed to be a sex addict, all right? And after me, she had been with eight people. And now, me and her are talking about getting back together, and I'm not so sure about it.

1:22:43🔗 Drew Why did you break up with her?

1:22:45🔗 Caller I broke up with her because the mother of my daughter, because I felt that I needed to be with the mother of my daughter.

1:22:53🔗 Drew Good. All right. Reasonable impulse. What happened with that?

1:22:56🔗 Caller I'm sorry.

1:22:56🔗 Drew What was that? What happened with that relationship?

1:23:00🔗 Caller I happened to be still very attached to the girl that I broke up with for her.

1:23:09🔗 Drew Just out of curiosity, I mean, this girl we're talking about now. Just out of curiosity, when this whole idea of her being a sex addict came up, was it after you freaked out at the fact that she'd been with eight guys? Or did she first say, I got addicted, and here's what happened?

1:23:23🔗 Caller No, she had told me that she became addicted.

1:23:28🔗 Drew I don't, I just, again, I don't see, she just, she just.

1:23:31🔗 Caller Well, how about you said she's been with eight guys over what period of time, like how long?

1:23:35🔗 Caller Is this David?

1:23:36🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah, she had been with eight people only after maybe four, three or four months.

1:23:44🔗 Caller Okay, so within three or four months' time, she's been with eight different guys, and she just came to you on her own and said, I think I'm a sex addict?

1:23:54🔗 Caller Yes. Actually, she had told her therapist because she has to go to therapy under law of a previous felony that she had committed.

1:24:09🔗 Drew What's the felony?

1:24:11🔗 Caller Robbery, I believe.

1:24:13🔗 Caller No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. The felony was she had pills on her at the time that she had been pulled over for a traffic violation.

1:24:24🔗 Drew So she's a drug addict.

1:24:25🔗 Caller All right.

1:24:25🔗 Drew Yeah. Well, drug addiction, that's one check in the possible addicted category. And does she have a sexual abuse history?

1:24:34🔗 Caller She doesn't. No. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Actually, she does.

1:24:37🔗 Drew Her father. Number two. So there you go. That sort of adds up to sexual addiction.

1:24:41🔗 Caller So yeah, I was going to, I was going to, I'll give you some advice, man. You know what? If a chick tells you that, you should believe her.

1:24:48🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:24:49🔗 Caller No, you should believe her.

1:24:50🔗 Drew Yeah.

1:24:50🔗 Caller You should believe her. Yeah, I don't care how she has behaved with you, but you should believe her. So many times in our lives, people tell us exactly what they are going to do, what they have done in the past, and you proceed ahead and go, not with me. And then six months later.

1:25:08🔗 Drew I'll change them.

1:25:08🔗 Caller Exactly. Six months later.

1:25:09🔗 Drew You've never, have you done that?

1:25:10🔗 Caller It's happened to me. Oh, no way. But it was all there. It was all there. The girl told me exactly this and I was like, get out of here. We're talking about it. It's healthy. It's good. It won't happen again. You should believe her.

1:25:20🔗 Drew There's multiple levels of denial. One is you're sort of have, you're so attracted. You just don't even, your brain isn't like hearing things. Then there is like, well, we'll get through that. And then there's a, I'm going to fix this. There's many different ways that you sort of have disturbed and distorted thinking about another person. Yeah, open your mind and when somebody tells you, like for instance, that caller a few minutes ago who was living with a guy who was having sex with her and said, I'm not in it. You need to move out of here. Go ahead and listen to that.

1:25:46🔗 Caller She didn't hear that though.

1:25:47🔗 Drew She heard, but you love me. I love you. You must love me. You must. No.

1:25:51🔗 Caller Believe it, man. Believe it, believe it.

1:25:52🔗 Drew People have separate feelings from our own. David, here's what you need to do before you make this David, the caller, not you, David, but you wouldn't hurt you either. I'm going to you listen to this advice to him.

1:26:02🔗 Caller I'm all ears.

1:26:03🔗 Drew Get your A to A, Alan on meaning and get a 12 step sponsor, work the steps yourself and then see if you still want to go into this relationship. Do not jump in until you've done that.

1:26:15🔗 Caller I'm going to do that because I think I'm addicted to you and this show.

1:26:18🔗 Drew We need to break that.

1:26:19🔗 Caller Well, I want to break the cycle.

1:26:20🔗 Drew But you know what I'm missing though.

1:26:23🔗 Caller What is it? This isn't a request line.

1:26:25🔗 Drew What is it? The benefits of codependency.

1:26:27🔗 Caller You know what I mean?

1:26:29🔗 Drew If you really died into it, you'd be codependent on me and keep me pumped up and feel good and bring me things.

1:26:33🔗 Caller I got to start with the emails again. Is that what you're doing?

1:26:35🔗 Drew Yes.

1:26:36🔗 David Alan Grier Hey buddy, have a good blissful day.

1:26:38🔗 Drew Then the scary thing is that you change it to email like eight minutes later. To change your address.

1:26:43🔗 David Alan Grier I had to.

1:26:43🔗 Caller I had to because... Yeah.

1:26:44🔗 Drew Seven times?

1:26:45🔗 Caller Well, because someone kept getting my account. And it was compromised.

1:26:49🔗 Drew Seven times?

1:26:50🔗 Caller Every time I've changed it is because I go online or I get a bill and it's somebody else who's gotten into my email and compromised my account. That's why I have to change my email.

1:27:00🔗 Drew Oof. David 23. Another David.

1:27:03🔗 Hey, what's up Dr. Drew?

1:27:04🔗 Drew We're good. What's happening there?

1:27:05🔗 Hey, I have a girlfriend of four months. She's currently married still. And we were together for four months. She's been real honest and told me that she even tells her separated husband that she's seeing me. And you know.

1:27:21🔗 Drew Do you wear a flack jacket all the time?

1:27:23🔗 No, I don't.

1:27:24🔗 Caller She separated though, right?

1:27:26🔗 She, that's what she says. But they're trying to sell a house all at once right now.

1:27:31🔗 Drew Put your radio down.

1:27:32🔗 Caller Yes, sir.

1:27:35🔗 And you know, the other day we were having sex and she ended up calling me her ex-husband's name about 30 seconds later. So I ended up leaving the house and the next day breaking up with her.

1:27:49🔗 Drew What do you do for a living?

1:27:50🔗 I'm a manager.

1:27:51🔗 Drew Of what?

1:27:52🔗 Kentucky Fried Chicken.

1:27:53🔗 Drew Restaurant.

1:27:54🔗 Caller Good.

1:27:54🔗 Caller That's good stuff.

1:27:55🔗 Caller And I got sick on the way to the restaurant. I really like it.

1:27:57🔗 Drew That's as good as the Kenny Rogers chicken. You ever had that?

1:27:59🔗 Caller No, I never had that.

1:28:00🔗 Drew That's so good. Really? Crazy.

1:28:02🔗 Caller I got some, man.

1:28:03🔗 Caller All right, sir.

1:28:06🔗 Caller I was wondering if I was being insecure about her doing that.

1:28:09🔗 Drew You're being ridiculous. But this situation, I'm not sure you're making a bad choice.

1:28:13🔗 Caller Well, can I again give you some advice? I was married for seven years.

1:28:19🔗 Drew Were you married that long?

1:28:20🔗 Caller Yeah, I was married for seven years. I was with my wife for 10 years.

1:28:23🔗 Drew When was that?

1:28:24🔗 Caller I got a divorce 10 years ago.

1:28:27🔗 Drew So you were young.

1:28:28🔗 Caller Well, I was 30.

1:28:29🔗 Drew And then you just broke it out after that, huh?

1:28:30🔗 Caller Yeah, I did. I went crazy. I've never been as crazy as I have now. It's wonderful. But now I'm settled down. I have a girlfriend. But my point is this. The first girlfriend or two that I had, sometimes I would call them my ex-wife's name.

1:28:45🔗 Drew It's in your head. It's like...

1:28:46🔗 Caller But one girlfriend really became upset. She would cry and unglued and nothing I could tell her. I just was saying there was nothing in my heart that meant any ill will. It's just if you're with someone for seven, ten years, it just happens and it became like clockwork. Because she got so upset about it, that it would happen more.

1:29:07🔗 Drew You do it more, Tourette's, yes.

1:29:07🔗 Caller Absolutely. And it just was a nightmare.

1:29:10🔗 Drew My wife goes through the kids' names and the dog's names before she gets to mine.

1:29:15🔗 Caller Well, there you go. And do you sit there and go...

1:29:16🔗 Drew Those are the kids' names. I drew, drew.

1:29:19🔗 Caller Oh, yeah. Yeah, but you gotta chill out on that particular aspect. That perhaps she's just used to calling the other bonehead the name in a moment of ecstasy.

1:29:30🔗 Drew That's usually when she's yelling at me.

1:29:31🔗 Caller Yeah, okay.

1:29:32🔗 Drew So that's why.

1:29:32🔗 Caller It's beautiful. We have seven minutes.

1:29:35🔗 Drew No.

1:29:35🔗 Caller Seven minutes.

1:29:36🔗 Drew No.

1:29:37🔗 Caller What?

1:29:37🔗 Drew We have like 40 seconds.

1:29:39🔗 Caller No, we don't. Next caller.

1:29:40🔗 Drew Let's just give me a cheer.

1:29:41🔗 Caller Next, next caller.

1:29:42🔗 Drew Give me a cheer, David, come on.

1:29:43🔗 David Alan Grier I wanna save one more baby. Sarah, honey, I love you, call me back.

1:29:47🔗 Drew Sarah, 25.

1:29:48🔗 Caller Hi.

1:29:50🔗 Caller So, I really love the show. I've been listening for a really long time, but I am a heroin addict. I've been clean for 11 months.

1:29:59🔗 Drew You're a heroin addict. Congratulations. That's tough, tough work.

1:30:03🔗 Caller And my question is, is I was an IV drug user for a long time, and I've been clean for the longest I've ever been in my life probably. And I'm doing really well and everything, but the main problem that I've been having lately is I've been going to the doctor a lot to just get testing done and stuff.

1:30:26🔗 Drew Real quick. We got to hurry.

1:30:28🔗 Caller Whenever they draw my blood, I like get like this weird-

1:30:32🔗 Drew You freak out.

1:30:33🔗 Caller You freak out. I don't freak out.

1:30:34🔗 David Alan Grier Like, I feel like I'm getting high. Yeah.

1:30:37🔗 Caller Really?

1:30:38🔗 Drew Yeah. The whole, the process of getting higher, the developing, the putting out the paraphernalia for the preparation, the ritual, and then the vein. Highly evocative, very obviously highly conditioned with the experience of the euphoria of the drug. Most people with the needle approaching start to freak out because they get a sense of desperation and all the stuff and sort of what the need to use re-emerges.

1:31:00🔗 Caller Pavlovian.

1:31:00🔗 Drew Yeah. It's a conditioned response. But Sarah, be careful. It's very evocative. Don't spend so much time in the medical system as you possibly can. It's very evocative to be around doctors and things. You start worrying about your body, you start thinking there are things wrong. Stay with your sponsor, take your direction, capitulate to the process. 11 months is great. You're on your way. Go, baby. We'll be right back. Well, that concludes the second night of the Dag O'Plenty show of Loveline series, Loveline series, Dag O'Plenty. Absolutely. And we thank you for tonight.

1:31:38🔗 Caller Thank you so much.

1:31:40🔗 Drew Shut up! If you run into a Beelzebub, I would like to thank him, too. I will thank him. For even David's brain.

1:31:47🔗 Caller Just being evil. And I want to thank Sarah for bringing me down to such depths of depression.

1:31:52🔗 Drew Brightening your night.

1:31:52🔗 Caller I do. I love her. I want her to call back every night. Just get me straight.

1:31:56🔗 Drew She was talking. Give her a break. She was calling about abortion.

1:32:00🔗 Caller Really?

1:32:00🔗 Drew She had her priorities straight.

1:32:02🔗 Caller Do you think she was an abortion that survived and then she wondered why that happened?

1:32:06🔗 Drew I bet she'll call back tomorrow night.

1:32:07🔗 Caller I hope so. I love you, Sarah.

1:32:08🔗 Drew Until then, this is Dr. Drew on behalf of DAG saying good night and stay well.

1:32:12🔗 Caller I'll date you, honey. I'll slam your head in the door real hard.

1:32:14🔗 David Alan Grier I'll run you over with my Volkswagen.

1:32:16🔗 David Alan Grier I will beat you with a whiffle ball bat.

1:32:19🔗 Caller I'll bang you.

1:32:20🔗 David Alan Grier I'll hit you in the head with a chair.

1:32:22🔗 Caller David, you're not my type.

1:32:23🔗 Drew It sounds like a good guy.

1:32:24🔗 David Alan Grier I'll hit you with dirt bombs.

1:32:26🔗 Caller I'll take a bunch of pennies and put them in an empty beer can and I'll smack you in the head.

1:32:30🔗 David Alan Grier How's that?

1:32:37🔗 Caller The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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