Wednesday, December 14, 2005

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0:21🔗 Voiceover Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Dr. Drew. Joining us tonight, Jack Osbourne, the phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. If you want to talk to Jack, ask him questions, or just the usual Loveline fare, please join us. Jack, you all know from the Osbournes, and you're about to know him from Jack Osbourne, Adrenaline Junkie. Is that what the show is going to be called here in the States?

0:39🔗 Jack Osbourne I hope so.

0:39🔗 Drew Something like that.

0:40🔗 Jack Osbourne Something like that.

0:40🔗 Drew It has been on in England or it's going to be on in England?

0:42🔗 Jack Osbourne It's been on in England, yeah.

0:43🔗 Drew And is this part of that Tour All of Europe show that you've been doing?

0:46🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, like I went around Europe just doing a bunch of crazy stuff.

0:50🔗 Drew Now, refine this a little bit. Now, people think about creating crazy stuff. They think about Steve-O and Jackass and those guys.

0:56🔗 Jack Osbourne This was a little more kind of adventurous, not so like clown school.

1:02🔗 Drew Not clown school.

1:02🔗 Jack Osbourne This was like mountaineering, rock climbing.

1:05🔗 Drew Extreme, extreme activity.

1:06🔗 Jack Osbourne Extreme sports, very kind of, you know, if you get, if things go bad, there's no like sprained ankle, oh, you're going to be okay, it's things go bad, you die kind of stuff.

1:15🔗 Drew Well, in fact, that's one of the things I guess that's going to be highlight is this climb of El Capitan. You've got your mom doing interviews about what, you're going up the top of El Capitan?

1:23🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, they were.

1:23🔗 Drew Your mom must be freaking out.

1:25🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, she.

1:26🔗 Drew I'm freaking out for her.

1:27🔗 Jack Osbourne She was crying every night, I was up there.

1:31🔗 Drew Oh my god, your poor mom, what you guys put her through.

1:33🔗 Jack Osbourne I know.

1:34🔗 Drew So, all right, so you climbed, tell us about this climb of El Capitan, how'd that go down?

1:37🔗 Jack Osbourne It was.

1:38🔗 Drew I mean, first of all, how'd you decide that's what I want to do?

1:40🔗 Jack Osbourne Well, what it was, I did a show in England about a year prior to actually climbing El Cap and I met a guy there named Mike Weeks and he had this whole idea for doing a TV show and said, look, I can train you within a year to climb El Capitan.

1:56🔗 Drew Were you already interested or doing rock climbing at that point?

1:58🔗 Jack Osbourne Well, the show that we were doing was rock climbing. I was like, I love this, this is great. And he was like, well, how about I take you under my wing? And we did the show together with his girlfriend, her name's Bean.

2:07🔗 Drew Her name's Bean?

2:08🔗 Jack Osbourne Her name's Bean. You'll get her real name, that actually she just had legally changed, was Candida. Nice.

2:16🔗 Drew Nice. And for those of you that don't recognize Canada, that another term for another nice name for Canada would be Yeast.

2:22🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah. Her mom thought it was a lovely name. She had no idea what it was.

2:27🔗 Very sweet.

2:28🔗 Drew Mom mentally retarded or hippie?

2:31🔗 Jack Osbourne No, they were like very, very proper posh family.

2:35🔗 Drew She was Amish.

2:36🔗 Jack Osbourne No, she was like a pro skier. She was in the Olympics. And she just thought she had no idea what Canada was. She thought it was the French name or something.

2:43🔗 Drew Fabulous. Fantastic. So now she's Bean.

2:46🔗 Jack Osbourne And now she's Bean, yeah.

2:47🔗 Drew Well, that's a fair cry, but an improvement from Canada.

2:49🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, and it suits her. You meet her, you're like, oh, Bean, suits her very well.

2:52🔗 Drew Nice. And so you and her boyfriend actually climbed to the top.

2:56🔗 Jack Osbourne With her too.

2:57🔗 Drew Oh, she came too.

2:57🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, and a cameraman and two guys rigging ropes for the cameraman.

3:01🔗 Drew Now, I don't know if anybody has ever really seen this kind of rock climbing, but it's literally, I mean, you're thousands of feet in the air clinging to a wall. You sleep hanging from a basket basically.

3:13🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

3:14🔗 Drew Do you sleep straight like with your feet hanging down your head up or do you have a sling?

3:18🔗 Jack Osbourne No, you have a, there's a thing called a porter ledge and it's kind of an aluminum.

3:21🔗 Drew I'm just thinking about this freaks me out. So how do you not roll out of it?

3:25🔗 Jack Osbourne You're tethered in into the wall and stuff. You know, it's pretty safe, but the first night sleep on it is not so comfortable.

3:33🔗 Drew Was up there the first night you slept on something like that?

3:35🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, I stepped on ledges before on climbs, but it was interesting to say the least.

3:42🔗 Drew And you were telling me that once you got to the very, very top and got over the lip, which was already sort of a negative angle, you couldn't find the ropes to go on.

3:50🔗 Jack Osbourne Oh, that would be because what happened was we climbed El Cap twice. We did the East buttress, which is the smallest face on it. And then we did a route called Salathe, which is one of the longer ones. And but when we climbed the smaller one, we couldn't find the chains to abseil down. And we ended up having to walk, you know, nine miles in the dark with like a couple of head torches, like two head torches between like three of us. And it was no food, no water.

4:16🔗 Drew You said it had already been 95 degrees, your 13 hour climb.

4:19🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, we were already like extremely dehydrated before the walk.

4:22🔗 Drew Oh my God.

4:23🔗 Jack Osbourne I was like hallucinating and losing it.

4:25🔗 Drew All right. Well, listen, anybody wants to talk to Jack? Give us a call. It's 1-800-LOVE-191. As you well know, he's got a lot to talk about. He's made some major, major changes in his life. He looks fantastic. Let's talk now to Dana 22. Dana?

4:36🔗 Hi, Dr. Drew.

4:37🔗 Drew Hey, Dad.

4:38🔗 What's going on? Well, I'm sorry.

4:41🔗 I'm really nervous.

4:43🔗 I have extreme agoraphobia and I used to take a lot of ecstasy. Well, not a lot, but I do it every once in a while. And then one time I took like four pills of it. And then for the next, oh, it's been a couple of years. At first, I couldn't even leave my house to go anywhere. And I was wondering if this is like a normal thing. And I had panic attacks like when I was in high school, but it was nothing huge and I can't, I can't go out to eat. I don't know, like...

5:13🔗 Drew Yeah. I would tell you, Dana, with ecstasy, 20 or more hits, I see this syndrome very commonly. And the syndrome is, Jack, you can chime in if you think, if you've seen this, somebody is usually very, very social. It goes out a lot. All of a sudden starts withdrawing, doesn't want to go out so much, starts not wanting to leave, getting kind of depressed, starts having panic attacks, then gets agoraphobia, and then gets profoundly depressed. There's usually depression that falls on the heels of this that's pretty intense.

5:40🔗 I don't have depression at all.

5:42🔗 Drew I'm just saying, usually. And it's not necessarily directly, like, within a few days. Sometimes it's even a couple of years later. So be careful, watch out for depression, watch out for more panic. For the most part, the agoraphobia kind of goes away, gets a lot better, in my experience. But the depression is what sticks. And it's because XT is a neurotoxin. It damages brain. It's unfortunate.

6:02🔗 Jack Osbourne Do you have any reason not to go out? Have you like gone out and been beaten up or something before? So you kind of...

6:10🔗 No, I've never been beaten up.

6:12🔗 I mean, whenever I used to go out, it would be before.

6:16🔗 Like, and I didn't even do XTC that much. I've done it like maybe three or four times.

6:20🔗 And it would be like one pill.

6:22🔗 And but whenever I would go out, it would be I would turn into somebody else. It would be me against whoever, you know, is out there. It's, I ruled, you know, walk into a bar and, you know, men get out.

6:36🔗 Drew On the ecstasy, on the ecstasy. Yeah. Well, I'm sure if you really added up the number of hits, I bet you'll be around 20. Cause that's usually where we start to see this.

6:43🔗 Really? And then like, my doctors have me on Paxil.

6:48🔗 Drew All right. Well, there you go. Well, they're treating you for social. Did you tell them you've been doing a lot of E?

6:53🔗 Did I tell them what?

6:54🔗 Drew That you were doing a lot of ecstasy?

6:56🔗 Yeah, I did. But the problem is that it's not helping.

7:00🔗 Drew All right. I rarely see. The one that usually works for this is actually Prozac or Effexor and maybe to Cymbalta. So you need very strong medicines because you're fighting injury damage. Here's another Dana, 29.

7:12🔗 Caller Hi.

7:13🔗 Drew Hey, Dana. What's up? You're on with Jack Osbourne.

7:15🔗 Caller Hi, Jack. How are you?

7:16🔗 Drew Good.

7:16🔗 How are you?

7:17🔗 Caller I'm wonderful. Thank you.

7:19🔗 First of all, I want to say I love your show.

7:21🔗 Caller Watching it made me feel like I was growing up again in home. I can't for the exact same reason.

7:26🔗 Sure as our little backdrop.

7:27🔗 Jack Osbourne Good to hear, good to hear. That's a good thing.

7:31🔗 Caller Yeah, a lot of swearing in my house growing up too. I swear to God, my dad and your dad would be like best buddies.

7:37🔗 Caller Interesting. Here's my language.

7:39🔗 What's that?

7:40🔗 Drew Go ahead.

7:41🔗 Caller My question tonight is, my boyfriend and I, we've been dating each other for six months now. We're moving in together very much in love, very happy. Our sex life is generally always great, very active. However, we have different views on anal play. I'm not talking about shoving things in there and going buck wild and whatnot.

8:04🔗 Drew Cheers mate.

8:05🔗 Caller What's that?

8:06🔗 Drew Nothing. Go ahead.

8:07🔗 Caller He's very against it. He thinks that it's gross, disgusting, homosexual. However, he's heard from friends that it can be quite pleasurable. He's like, well, maybe if I'm drunk...

8:21🔗 Drew Why do you want to do... Listen, I asked the same thing of men who insist on doing this stuff to women. Why do you want to do something to him that he finds uncomfortable and unpleasant?

8:29🔗 Caller Well, no.

8:29🔗 He's like, I don't like it.

8:31🔗 I'm like, well, have you ever done it?

8:32🔗 Caller He's like, no.

8:32🔗 Drew Dana, Dana, I'd say 95 to 98% of men find it unpleasant to unlikable.

8:39🔗 Jack Osbourne I'd compare it to shooting yourself in the foot. I've never done it, but I know I'm not going to like it when it happens.

8:44🔗 Drew I know what the hell you this god damn Cosmo in women's magazines that sort of somehow I know what they got. I think they really have a vendetta against men. Here's what men think of that. Stop it. Are you kidding?

8:56🔗 Caller I don't read those magazines or anything.

8:58🔗 Drew The thing about it is that like Here's what makes him absolutely happier than anything else in the world when you have sex with him. That's it. That's as good as it gets. That's a hot fudge sundae with the whipped cream of the chair and everything. That's it for him. That's why he's with you. Right, Jack? Am I wrong?

9:13🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, no, you're not wrong. You stay away from that with me.

9:17🔗 Drew Absolutely. Are you kidding? Maybe you're with one man. Maybe I'll give you even 3% of guys who are kind of into that. That's not your boyfriend.

9:26🔗 Caller Well, isn't there like some form of pressure down there for that?

9:28🔗 Drew No, no.

9:30🔗 Stop it.

9:32🔗 Jack Osbourne Stop hurting him. He doesn't like it.

9:34🔗 Drew No. Listen, men are not, don't hold back sexually. If that were something he liked, trust me, he would let you know. Men do not hold back on stuff they like. They push you in that direction. Stuff they don't like, they say, please don't do that. And then they start getting angry. Cut it out, Dana. What is your preoccupation with this?

9:57🔗 Caller Well, I've never done it and I've heard that it's pleasurable for men.

10:00🔗 Drew No. Stop it.

10:03🔗 Caller Are you high?

10:04🔗 Drew No. Are you high? Dana, we're telling you something very clear.

10:08🔗 Jack Osbourne No, they're not fully straight men. They're men that like, they're not totally sure. Any guy that says they like it is not totally sure.

10:18🔗 Drew I'll even give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they're just a little tiny percentage of straight men that like it, but the vast majority hate it. Do you understand? I understand.

10:27🔗 Caller I'm not even talking about shoving things in there.

10:28🔗 Drew Dana, Dana.

10:29🔗 Caller Ah, did Ms. Mama Pinsky put her little pinky in Dr. Drew's little dump?

10:36🔗 Drew David Aguirre. No, Dana, come on. Stop. Well, she's... Go ahead, Dana. Go down the path. See where that takes you. Oh, boy. Your boyfriend's going to... Liz, 17. Liz? There we are.

10:50🔗 I was wondering if... I don't know if you'd call it paranoia, but if that was a side effect of alcohol withdrawals?

10:58🔗 Drew Yeah, there's all kinds of things associated with alcohol withdrawal. You can be paranoid, you can be irritable, agitated, have seizures, feel like your skin's crawling.

11:05🔗 Okay, well, I didn't know I was one of them because, like, lately, I don't know, I've just been feeling like everyone hates me, everyone, like, I don't know. It's just weird. And I was thinking why I would be thinking that, and then I just... that's what I came up with, so...

11:18🔗 Drew You're 17. You're 17. Why would you be in alcohol withdrawal? Alcohol use can cause this too, not just alcohol withdrawal.

11:25🔗 Caller Oh, well, I have it in about a month or so.

11:28🔗 Drew You haven't used?

11:29🔗 Caller Yeah, I was like five or six a week, times a week.

11:33🔗 Drew You were drinking?

11:33🔗 Caller Yeah.

11:34🔗 Jack Osbourne Were you getting drunk five or six times a week? Were you drinking?

11:38🔗 Caller I'd say drunk like four times a week.

11:42🔗 Drew A week? Yeah. Starting at what age?

11:44🔗 Caller 17. Well, probably started about 15 and a half.

11:49🔗 Drew And how did you manage to stop all that?

11:51🔗 To stop?

11:53🔗 Caller My counselor, we had to take this test, and then she talked to me about, I was like in the 98% tile or something, and then my mom's an alcoholic, and I just, all of a sudden, one day I was like, I don't want to be like her. I don't want to whatever.

12:08🔗 Drew Moments of clarity.

12:10🔗 Caller Yeah. So I didn't just, I just want to stop.

12:13🔗 Drew Think about this stage of the game, Liz. You're 17, your brain is still forming, and you're early in the disease. Yeah.

12:19🔗 Caller That's also another thing. I was just thinking like, I'm damaging myself.

12:22🔗 Drew So you are damaging yourself, but also your brain at this age makes it somewhat easier to control your use. In a couple of years, you're going to have to do something to control it. Addiction is about not being able to control the use. That's why there are things like treatment and AA out there.

12:39🔗 Caller Okay.

12:39🔗 Drew So while it may seem like, I stopped no big deal now, it's going to become increasingly difficult with time. Are you smoking pot or doing anything else?

12:47🔗 Caller Nope. Okay. That's what I was just a drinker.

12:50🔗 Jack Osbourne I mean, it's worth maybe looking for some further help through your school counselor. I'm sure they have the resources to point you in the direction, but the earlier you can kind of nip this in the butt, the better.

13:03🔗 Caller Yeah, she was trying to get me to join, it was my school counselor, she was trying to get me to join a real group, and I didn't feel comfortable doing that, so I just was like, I don't want to do this anymore.

13:15🔗 Drew Why don't you start a group anyway? I mean, you sound like you've been very traumatic at home, you've got an alcoholic in the room.

13:19🔗 Caller No, it was actually like a school-forced thing. I got in trouble in school, so you have to do it.

13:25🔗 Drew But what would be wrong with joining a group?

13:28🔗 Caller What was that?

13:29🔗 Drew Go ahead, Jackie.

13:30🔗 Jack Osbourne I mean, what's so bad about it? It's kind of, if anything, I can only help.

13:35🔗 Caller I don't know, I just don't feel comfortable, I guess, like talking about things like that to people. I don't know, like I don't like being in a big crowd, whatever, and talking about my personal life, so. Not a big crowd, but you know.

13:51🔗 Jack Osbourne So you've got a fear of judgment?

13:54🔗 Caller I guess so.

13:55🔗 Drew Shame, lots of shame to get a hideout. You're, as they say, you're as sick as your secret, Liz. So being around a supportive group of people with problems similar to yours could be very, very helpful because in fact your problems are things that people happily listen to and you'll listen to theirs.

14:13🔗 Jack Osbourne And it helps, I mean, most of those kids aren't in there for being grade A perfect students, so you haven't really got to worry about it and you know, anything, you know, they're all, you know, guilty to a certain degree.

14:25🔗 Drew And all feeling shame and all having issues and all from families that have issues and that's part of being human.

14:32🔗 Caller Okay. And also, if it's like...

14:34🔗 Drew Dismissed. Okay, Liz, what else?

14:37🔗 Caller Paranoia that I'm having. Yes. How can I, when is it going to go away? I mean...

14:42🔗 Drew I don't think it's from alcohol, Dr. I think it's from trying, it's whatever, it's something more going on here than just the alcohol. A, and B, you've stopped alcohol but not replaced it with anything, so it can make you very irritable, very depressed and very desperate feeling. And so I think it's more irritability and dysphoria than really any paranoia per se, you don't believe people plan to persecute you. But if you don't replace that with something, this is going to get a lot worse. Kate 19.

15:08🔗 Hello.

15:09🔗 Drew Kate, you're on with Jack Osbourne.

15:10🔗 Hi, Jack, how are you?

15:12🔗 Jack Osbourne I'm good, Kate, how are you?

15:14🔗 I'm scared, actually. This guy who I was kind of seeing, we were into each other, he disappeared about a month ago for three weeks. And before that, you know, everything was going great with our relationship. Like we were having fun. Like he was a really normal guy. He had a job. He was going to college. And I was just really, really happy with the relationship.

15:37🔗 Drew How old was he?

15:38🔗 He was 22.

15:39🔗 Drew And how long were you happy like that?

15:42🔗 For about a month before then.

15:45🔗 Drew So you've been dating a month?

15:46🔗 Yes. And? So anyway during that time we did have unprotected sex. And so he left for three weeks and I had no idea where he was. I mean he just stopped calling and everything. I mean he didn't even email me. He wasn't on Instant Messenger. And my one friend told me that he called her and he just said, I'm alive and I don't even know. She just said like, well he called me. I just want to tell you that. Anyways, he showed up in my house about two weeks ago, a week and a half ago. And he's like, he looks horrible. He had lost like so much weight. And he told me, he's like, I just want to tell you that I'm sick. And then for a second, like, oh, my God, he's going to tell me I have AIDS, right? You know, and he didn't, he said, he pulled down his pants and he's like, and he had sores like pomegranate seeds or something.

16:45🔗 Drew Pomegranate seeds?

16:46🔗 Yes.

16:48🔗 Drew On his penis?

16:49🔗 Caller Yes, like really, really nasty things.

16:52🔗 Drew Can you say that again? What they look like?

16:55🔗 Pomegranate seeds.

16:59🔗 Drew Pomegranate seeds, were they like ulcers?

17:02🔗 I don't know. I only could look for a second. And then I told him to get out of my house.

17:08🔗 Caller Sounds like wallets.

17:10🔗 Drew It sounds like herpes, really, though. I mean, but so anyway, I wanted to do research.

17:14🔗 And I was like, after I got over the shock, which took about a really long time, I was thinking like, I mean, he's pretty horrible. Like he's been doing drugs or something like his skin was kind of, you know what I mean?

17:25🔗 Caller Just really gross.

17:28🔗 And so do you think like, I don't know, I really psyched myself out and I was looking at all these different kinds of diseases online.

17:37🔗 Drew Good.

17:38🔗 Do you think it could be syphilis? Cause I mean, if he looks, he looks really, really skinny and God knows what he was doing for three.

17:43🔗 Drew No, syphilis usually takes years to give you that skinny wasting syndrome. The initially, in fact, it's a single ulcer that goes away and it's painless. You're describing a series of-

17:53🔗 Even when he showed up there, cause we like talked for like three minutes and he was like, how do we know that this has him going on for years? You know, cause I mean-

18:02🔗 Drew Kate, here's the deal. Why don't you find out from the guy what he's got? Because you don't know-

18:07🔗 Caller He was talking in triangles when I was talking to him. See, I read all the symptoms. And I mean, you know how you go insane like right before it happens or whatever.

18:15🔗 Drew No, Kate, don't. You're not a doctor. I can't make any sense about what you're describing here. You're describing violaceous raised lesions on the penis, which are really nothing. How about this one?

18:28🔗 Yeah, it sounds like he's doing speed.

18:30🔗 Drew Yeah, he's picking himself. Yeah, that's kind of what it is. Well, not purely pale, but they do pick on their penis, too. And that's kind of what I think this is. That'd be my first guess. The guy's an amphetamine addict and picking.

18:41🔗 Jack Osbourne But he was yellow, wouldn't that?

18:43🔗 Drew They look pale, sallow and all that. They look like hell. So that's my first guess. Because he does not run, he's been picking. My second guess is that this is something like a herpetic process, something that's, you know, something... I mean, it's a rash. You're talking about a rash. And rashes are typically herpes, warts, syphilis. And the syphilis is a single ulcer, so you're describing multiple raised things. And that sort of herpes will prove it otherwise.

19:06🔗 Jack Osbourne Wait, did you do the obvious and go get yourself checked out?

19:09🔗 Caller Uh-huh, uh-huh. No, I'm totally fine, but I need...

19:10🔗 Jack Osbourne But wait, have you gone and got yourself checked out?

19:12🔗 Caller Yes, I have.

19:13🔗 Drew Okay, good.

19:14🔗 Caller But the thing is, I didn't get checked for syphilis, so that's why I'm freaking out.

19:17🔗 Drew Oh, well, that's a blood test. I'm sure that's not what you have. Then, by the way, very treatable, not a big deal. The problem, though, is you have to find out what this guy had. And I agree with Anderson. I think amphetamine is probably the number one, two, and three choices here. Yeah. All right?

19:31🔗 Caller Yeah, it's just so incredible how it takes people like that.

19:35🔗 Drew Speed?

19:35🔗 Caller Yeah.

19:36🔗 Drew It is incredible. It takes people down all the time.

19:38🔗 Caller It's just like, I got even knowing.

19:40🔗 Caller It's like...

19:41🔗 Drew Was he drinking or doing drugs before you lost track of him?

19:44🔗 Caller We'd go out and drink like a martini or whatever, you know, but like nothing to like excessive amounts.

19:50🔗 Drew You seem pretty high-strong, okay, anxious. Do you have support in your life?

19:58🔗 Caller Yeah, I have a great family.

20:00🔗 Drew All right, okay.

20:01🔗 Caller This is kind of a shock because I've had such a perfect life and something like this happened to me.

20:04🔗 Drew All right, well, it can happen to anybody. Not describing anything too over the top.

20:09🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, I've had a perfect life too.

20:11🔗 Drew Jack is perfect and he climbs El Capitan now. All right, why don't you call the guy, find out what he's got. And if he's, you said he's talking triangles again. That's right. He's like making no sense. That's kind of a speed.

20:22🔗 Jack Osbourne That's kind of an induced psychosis.

20:23🔗 Drew Yeah, that's sort of a speed thing. I think that's what you're describing. All right.

20:26🔗 Caller Dr. Drew, can I just recommend one more thing? Because I rarely ever hear you talking about it. It's another STA came across.

20:32🔗 Drew Yeah.

20:33🔗 Caller HPV, I never ever hear you like...

20:35🔗 Drew I talk about warts all the time. Most people your age have it. You probably have that.

20:40🔗 Caller No, I don't.

20:41🔗 Drew You probably do, because most people your age do have it. And there's going to be a vaccine for it available...

20:48🔗 Caller That's like a dying lemur.

20:49🔗 Drew There will be a vaccine for it before the 2006 year is out, I believe. And pretty much everybody, reproductive age, will get that vaccine. And while almost 50% of young people have it now, only a certain percentage of those will get the virus that causes cervical cancer. And once we get that vaccine, there will be no more of this virus passed along.

21:06🔗 Jack Osbourne Is it going to be like, you get it like when you're 13?

21:09🔗 Drew You will get it when you're young and that's it. And that will be the end of this whole thing. So the word virus will be, the HPV will be the thing of the past. All right, let's take a break. How about that? How about Kate sort of warm me in a little bit.

21:19🔗 Jack Osbourne I know, I feel like I need to take an Advil or something.

21:21🔗 Oh, I need to get a shower.

21:23🔗 Drew So Jack Osbourne in the studio with us tonight. The show is Jack Osbourne Adrenaline Junkie to Aeron Discovery.

21:29🔗 Jack Osbourne Maybe, I think that's what I got told in England, but I'm not 100% of that.

21:32🔗 Drew Anywhere else people can see you? Anything else happening?

21:34🔗 Jack Osbourne I'm doing a show for ABC called Mental. It's kind of like I'm helping out a young kid who's trying to clean his act up with drugs and alcohol. And it's kind of a bunch of other celebrities are doing it where they're taking, who've overcome certain problems themselves and they're taking kids under their wings.

21:50🔗 Drew For how long do you do that?

21:52🔗 Jack Osbourne I've been, for like the past month now, I've been hanging out with them.

21:55🔗 Drew That's good. Is he getting better?

21:57🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, he seems to be doing really, really well. I mean, I'm impressed, you know, and he's just, he's really honest and it's nice.

22:02🔗 Drew You know, I did stuff for a news agency once where we filmed the recovery of a heroin addict and I thought, oh, these cameras are going to be a disaster. It's going to hurt this person. You know what? Cameras motivate people.

22:13🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

22:13🔗 Drew They kind of stay. They know somebody's watching. They kind of try. They try extra hard.

22:17🔗 Jack Osbourne Absolutely.

22:18🔗 Drew All right. The phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191. Jack Osbourne in the studio. Loveline will be right back.

22:24🔗 Jack Osbourne How do you want me to say it?

22:25🔗 Caller Loveline will be right back.

22:29🔗 Drew That's right, it's Love Line 1800 L O V E 191. El Capitan climbing Jack Osbourne in here tonight. Mother f***ing El Capitan. I can't believe that. Sleeping off a cocoon hammock. 4,000 feet in the air.

22:44🔗 Jack Osbourne Tons of fun. I could take you up to do it next year.

22:46🔗 Drew No. Oh no. Oh no.

22:47🔗 Jack Osbourne You could do Loveline from El Cap. That's a novel idea, but it could happen.

22:52🔗 Drew It could happen, but it's not likely. I think more likely a moon rock is going to drop through this building right about now. Let's talk to Nina about her mohawk. Nina, what's going on?

23:04🔗 Caller Okay. I'm 13. My mom probably knows about this. I'm at the age of rebellion. I want to do what I want to do. And Jack, I know you've been through this. I've been watching novel and shows since I was a little. And since I found this thing. But I want to get... I think a lot of girls don't get them because... Okay, I have friends in high school who have, like, the size of their head shaved. They have mohawks. It's nothing. I think that it's kind of sexist because guys, you know, everyone thinks only guys can BMX or skateboard or something. And to me, that's sexist because girls should be able to do those kinds of things, too.

23:40🔗 Drew I agree. But if I were your parents, whether you were male or female, I wouldn't be happy with the mohawk.

23:45🔗 Jack Osbourne But wait, how long is your hand now?

23:48🔗 Caller Um, it's right below my ears.

23:51🔗 Jack Osbourne It's, what, so is it longish?

23:55🔗 No, it's pretty short.

23:57🔗 Jack Osbourne Uh, I mean, hey, Shanae O'Connor pulled off her shaved head pretty nicely, but she was also really angry.

24:04🔗 Drew But I think head shaving is an angry thing.

24:06🔗 Jack Osbourne It is. It's a very, it's not a very unapproachable.

24:08🔗 Drew It's aggressive. It's like, I think mohawk's even a little bit worse, really.

24:12🔗 Jack Osbourne Really? A little bit. I'm an advocate of mohawks on guys. I'm a little scared of girls when they get them.

24:19🔗 Drew Because it means aggression, right?

24:20🔗 Jack Osbourne It does. It means like she'll probably hit me in the face.

24:24🔗 Drew She'll be like Dana. I want Dana to mohawk, the one that wanted to touch the guy's rear end.

24:27🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, she definitely had a mohawk. Definitely. And one glove, a fingerless glove.

24:34🔗 Caller My mom agrees with me.

24:35🔗 Caller She thinks if you can get your dad to agree with you, then it's fine. But my thing is, I'm going to have it down because at school she's like, Oh, well, you have to have it down or you can't have a mohawk at all. And so my agreement with the principal is she's going to let me spike it all up.

24:51🔗 Jack Osbourne That's fine.

24:51🔗 Drew Spike it up.

24:52🔗 Jack Osbourne It just sounds to me that you're just trying to, I don't know, from my perception, that you're just trying to be noticed, maybe? Is that what it is?

25:00🔗 Caller If you've seen me at school, trust me, I'm already noticed. I'm the only one that's even a rocker at my school.

25:06🔗 Drew But you know what? Every person that I've, I saw a great series once, it was like a documentary, and what they did was they went out and they filmed like 75 people dressed like I'm sure Nina does with a lot of metal and mohawks and stuff, and they asked, why do you do this in every single one of them? To be an individual, to be an individual, to be myself, and you see them all dressed the same, saying this thing about being an individual. Absolutely. It's, it's, Nina, come on, who are you kidding?

25:33🔗 Jack Osbourne Just, but you don't want to look. What if you shave a mohawk, you wake up in the morning after you're done it, you look in the mirror and you go, oh my god, I'm not going to school, because you absolutely hate it.

25:45🔗 Caller For me right now, I know I want it. I wanted to eat. My original hairstyle, I saw the movie Tank Girl. I wanted to shave my head except for a square patch on the front because I was in love with that movie. I decided to settle for Mojave because I get bored of it.

25:58🔗 Drew Hang on a second, what was that movie?

25:59🔗 Jack Osbourne Tank Girl. It was a comic book, cartoon turned into a movie. It was about the future and there was a nuclear war and there's no water left and this girl drives a tank around and she's with these kangaroo buddies. They're these half human, half kangaroo friends.

26:13🔗 Wow.

26:14🔗 Drew All right, Nina. Well, God bless you. Enjoy. It's not going to be an easy life. You're going to spend the next part of your life wondering why you can't get a job and why people treat you differently and that people really don't accept you because you just state your mind and they can't handle the fact that you're assertive and you just, the fact is you're aggressive, you're scary and angry, it's difficult to be around.

26:36🔗 Caller The question actually runs on my father's side because he's like on medication for that. But I haven't had problems with that since last year, but last year I was in the next, so.

26:47🔗 Drew All right, I would say this mohawk business in your case really means something. Amanda 17.

26:53🔗 Caller Hi.

26:54🔗 Drew Hey, Amanda, what's going on?

26:55🔗 Caller Nothing.

26:57🔗 Jack Osbourne Okay, cool.

26:58🔗 How you doing?

26:59🔗 Caller I just wanted to talk to Jack.

27:01🔗 Drew Well, you're talking to him.

27:02🔗 I know.

27:04🔗 Jack Osbourne Hi.

27:04🔗 Drew I just saw what?

27:07🔗 Caller I just wanted to say I think you're so gorgeous.

27:09🔗 Jack Osbourne Really? Big goggles, darling. Big goggles. I'm kidding.

27:14🔗 Drew Where is that Alfred Hitchcock sound?

27:19🔗 Jack Osbourne Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

27:21🔗 Drew That's it?

27:22🔗 Jack Osbourne Anything else? Any statement you'd like to say? No. Free-to-key, any of that maybe?

27:32🔗 Drew Scat humor? All right, man. Thanks very much. This is now Helena 14. Helena.

27:39🔗 Caller Helena.

27:40🔗 Drew Helena. I beg your pardon.

27:42🔗 Caller Hi.

27:44🔗 Drew Here we go.

27:45🔗 Okay.

27:46🔗 Caller Hello.

27:47🔗 Drew This is where you talk. That's right.

27:50🔗 Caller Hi, Jack.

27:51🔗 Caller Hi.

27:53🔗 Caller Okay. I need to know if I'm totally weird or not. Me and my boyfriend have been seeing each other for like eight months now and we've had sex and I have like a thing with blood.

28:08🔗 Drew How old is he?

28:09🔗 Caller He's 15.

28:10🔗 Drew Did you know you had this thing with blood before you started having sex with a 15 year old?

28:13🔗 Caller Well, like I kind of knew because like I would, I cut myself and I would like, I just like.

28:20🔗 Drew All right. So you're a cutter. Here we go. So you're a cutter.

28:23🔗 Caller Okay. I'm a cutter and I would like put it in my hand and smear it on my face and I'd put it in my mouth.

28:31🔗 Drew This is all very, very disturbed stuff, my dear.

28:34🔗 Jack Osbourne First question, where's your dad?

28:37🔗 Drew Good question.

28:39🔗 Caller He's in Wisconsin and he's a cocaine addict.

28:41🔗 Drew Excellent. And your mom, she an addict too?

28:44🔗 Caller No, she's an alcoholic.

28:45🔗 Drew Alcoholic. Okay. And were you sexually abused or something as a kid?

28:50🔗 Caller I was exposed to, I was watching, my dad would sit in the living room and watch porn and I was like four and my brother would, he would tell me that we were playing house and he was a dad and I was a mom and it was normal and he would like touch me and stuff.

29:04🔗 Drew Beautiful. So there we go. Perfectly normal, perfectly natural, American family.

29:08🔗 Jack Osbourne Yay.

29:09🔗 Drew Yay.

29:10🔗 Jack Osbourne White picket fence.

29:11🔗 Drew So we got the cocaine addicted dad who's abandoning Helena. We have the alcoholic mom. We have the sexual abusive brother. We have the sexual misconduct of the dad showing you pornography at age four. Adds up to trouble, my dear. Adds up to trouble. You really need to get some help. Can you do that?

29:27🔗 Caller I've tried to get help. I've been in counseling since I was eight years old.

29:30🔗 And that's good.

29:31🔗 Caller I just keep getting worse. Like, it's not because you want to.

29:36🔗 Jack Osbourne It's because you want to keep getting worse. And there's a solution to every problem. And as soon as you want, you know, as soon as you're willing to take the steps to change and stop figuring yourself out, what is that?

29:48🔗 Drew And a lot of recovering people say that. They're like, oh, you just haven't hit bottom yet, or you just don't want to change. How do you get somebody to want to change?

29:56🔗 Jack Osbourne They have to be hit to a bottom, whether it's emotional, spiritual, psychological, you know, there's so many levels to it. I mean, you just have to be ready to have enough. And have you had enough of cutting yourself and smearing blood?

30:10🔗 Drew Smearing blood on your face and screwing around with the...

30:12🔗 Caller No, that's the weird thing. I like the feeling and I love, I think it's beautiful to see my blood. I almost, I get sad when it stops bleeding. I think it's so beautiful.

30:22🔗 Jack Osbourne Does it make you feel more alive?

30:24🔗 Caller I just, I feel so great because I have like life dripping off my arms.

30:35🔗 Jack Osbourne You know, have you spoken to council about this?

30:39🔗 No.

30:41🔗 Drew Come on, come on. Then you really aren't doing any work in therapy.

30:44🔗 Caller Well, I talked to her about like what I do during sex, and that was like my question. Like, I do things during sex, and I don't know if it's natural or if other people do it.

30:54🔗 Drew Well, a lot of cutting and blood with that too.

30:56🔗 Caller Well, like, we'll be having sex, and I'll tell them to like punch me or choke me.

31:02🔗 Drew Yeah, we dealt with this last night too.

31:04🔗 Caller I want to know, like, cut me in this one time.

31:06🔗 Drew Think about it this way. When you've been so overwhelmingly traumatized, it sort of, let's think about it this way, it sort of burns out your arousal system. So in order to feel aroused, you have to have excess levels of stimulation in order to sort of even feel alive. In your case, you feel dead unless there's life dripping out of your body, you know, blood's dripping off you and you're being punched in the face. This is all very disturbed stuff, Helena, and you can regain the capacity to experience life normally on life's terms, but it's going to take some work. You have to want to do it. You have to get off with your counselor and do what they tell you. It's a bottom line. People just don't do the work in any kind of recovery. They just go, oh, yeah, what are they just kind of blow it off? As though these are sort of playful recommendations being made by professionals. No, no, no, this is the real this. They're saying everything they tell you is explicitly for a reason. It's to be followed. Joe, 19. Turn off your radio.

32:02🔗 Caller Joe.

32:04🔗 Caller Hello.

32:05🔗 There you are.

32:06🔗 Caller Hi, how are you doing?

32:08🔗 Drew We're good. What's up?

32:10🔗 Caller Excuse me?

32:11🔗 Drew What's going on?

32:12🔗 Caller I was trying to tell my story.

32:15🔗 Drew We're waiting.

32:17🔗 Caller My boyfriend is 25, I'm 19, and we adopted a kid. My mom adopted a kid, actually, and she put it under my name. So we had a good sex life in the beginning, but then now he wants to give up the kid.

32:34🔗 Drew Your boyfriend.

32:35🔗 Caller Yes, my boyfriend wants to give up the kid, so I don't know what I should do. Should I give up the kid back or keep him? Should I leave my boyfriend?

32:43🔗 Jack Osbourne It's not a car. It's a life.

32:46🔗 Drew I don't understand this. How can your mother get the adoptive child? Where did the child come from?

32:50🔗 Caller No, my boyfriend.

32:52🔗 Drew I thought you said your mom adopted the child.

32:54🔗 Caller Yeah, but my boyfriend wants to give him up because...

32:58🔗 Drew Wait a minute. Stop about the boyfriend. How did your mom adopt this child?

33:02🔗 Caller Through child services.

33:06🔗 Drew I don't understand. How did she get the child? How is she able to hand the child off to someone else that she has adopted?

33:13🔗 Caller No, she adopted, but it's my child. You know what I mean? We don't consider it as our child.

33:18🔗 Drew No, I don't understand that.

33:19🔗 Jack Osbourne Wait, what? How does this... This is really... You're not being clear.

33:23🔗 Drew Yeah, there's no such thing as what you're describing, by the way. So, it's just a bogus call? Yeah, bogus call. Okay, there we go. This is Eric 16.

33:34🔗 What's up? Yeah, what's up? My name is there.

33:38🔗 Caller Jeez.

33:40🔗 Drew Guys, screen these calls, please.

33:43🔗 Caller Wow.

33:46🔗 Caller Whoa.

33:46🔗 Drew Yeah, good time. Jack, I blame you. So, it's called Jack Osbourne Adrenaline Junkie. Do we have an air date for this yet?

33:53🔗 Jack Osbourne No, hopefully sometime next year.

33:56🔗 Drew How about for the mentor program?

33:57🔗 Jack Osbourne The mentor, that's going to be the first quarter next year. I believe April, but might be earlier.

34:03🔗 Drew Do you know what network that's on? ABC. April, springtime. And who are the other celebrities involved in that?

34:10🔗 Jack Osbourne I know one of the girls from Sopranos.

34:14🔗 Drew What was the issue?

34:15🔗 Jack Osbourne Eating disorders.

34:16🔗 Drew Oh, interesting. These things take so much time that they're getting into.

34:20🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, and they've been working on it for a year already.

34:22🔗 Caller Wow.

34:24🔗 Drew Let's get another call here. This is Melissa, 24. Melissa?

34:27🔗 Caller Hi.

34:28🔗 Drew Hey, what's going on?

34:30🔗 Caller Nothing, just wanted to say hi and I just have a dilemma that I just can't stop thinking about.

34:35🔗 Drew Let's hear it.

34:38🔗 Caller My husband and I, we've been together since 8th grade. We broke up during high school and stuff and we had a baby. We got married. And then for I would say almost two years now, like he doesn't seem like he's interested in me, meaning like sex wise.

35:03🔗 Drew The baby is two years old.

35:05🔗 Caller The baby is three.

35:06🔗 Drew Three. Are you interested in him?

35:08🔗 Caller Yeah, I'm always the one to initiate everything.

35:11🔗 Drew And has it always been that way or only since the baby was born?

35:14🔗 Caller Since the baby was born.

35:15🔗 Drew And is he anything else going on with him? Is he on medication or anything like that? Nothing has changed with him medically.

35:22🔗 Caller No.

35:24🔗 Caller I ask him, is it me?

35:25🔗 Caller What is it? And he says, no, it's him. And I tell him.

35:28🔗 Drew What is it about him? And what is it about him?

35:31🔗 Caller I don't know. He says he doesn't know what it is.

35:35🔗 Drew And how often were you having sex and how often are you having sex now?

35:39🔗 Caller Now? God. Sometimes it's nothing for months.

35:48🔗 Drew And he doesn't give you an explanation for that?

35:50🔗 Caller No. I mean, I'll be like breaking down in front of him. Is it me? What is it?

35:55🔗 Caller Are you cheating on me?

35:56🔗 Caller All this stuff.

35:57🔗 Drew Guys that cheat usually get on their best behavior. They kind of double down on everything.

36:02🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah. It's true. They try to make it really obvious that they're not screwing around. But wait, did he watch You Give Birth?

36:12🔗 Drew Yeah, he did. There are guys that freak out about the mom thing. Oh, somebody in the studio freaks out about that. Yeah, some guys...

36:22🔗 Caller I don't think that's true because whenever he wants it, everything's okay. He seems like he's interested in me and then all of a sudden when I want the pleasure in return, he's tired, he's done. It's literally less than a minute and that's it.

36:40🔗 Drew Oh, and that's after three months of nothing?

36:43🔗 Yeah.

36:44🔗 Drew And how often were you having sex before the shutdown?

36:48🔗 Caller When we were, you know, before we had the baby and before we got married, it was all the time.

36:54🔗 Drew And he won't... Listen, if we can speculate all day about what's going on here, I will tell you that when a man has a significant drop in his libido, the first thing he needs is a medical evaluation because that can be one of the first signs of a serious medical problem. So that would be the first order of business. Make sure he's not doing drugs, not drinking, and not having a medical problem. Beyond that, if all that is ruled out, he's got to tell you what's going on. Because we can speculate all day about what might be causing the shutdown, but we don't know him, so it's really essentially impossible for us to figure it out.

37:21🔗 Jack Osbourne He could be finding sex just boring, you know, sex with, you know...

37:25🔗 Drew He could be one of these guys. There's guys that sort of shut down, there are guys that have trouble when... Yeah, there are guys that shut down when the wife becomes a mom, they have a whole different feelings about everything. But he knows this and he's got to tell us, to tell you about it. And I think you deserve an explanation because the reality is physical intimacy is an important part of a relationship, it's an important part of the relationship sustaining itself. You guys are in your early 20s, this is not going to be good when you're in your 50s. You're going to be pretty done with each other. So Jack Osbourne here tonight, that's right. Oh my goodness, interesting calls here, a lot of interesting stuff.

37:57🔗 Jack Osbourne We had to shout out, that was...

37:59🔗 Drew I think they cut that one out, I don't think everybody else heard that one. You cut that out Anderson? Yeah, you cut that out.

38:05🔗 Jack Osbourne Good.

38:05🔗 Drew All right, so we're going to take another break, the phone number is 1-800-LOVE-191, we'll be right back.

38:12🔗 Caller Loveline will be right back.

38:16🔗 Drew Loveline, Jack, you've got to share that story, you were just telling us about people falling off Yosemite Falls.

38:21🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, when we were in Yosemite, an Irish guy, poor guy, went hiked all the way to the top of Yosemite Falls, and it's about 1,500 feet, I want to say, from the top of the falls all the way to the bottom, and he fell. And when we were there, they still hadn't recovered his body. Oh, it's mean.

38:42🔗 Drew Because the falls keep the...

38:43🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, the water pressure keeps the body held under.

38:45🔗 Drew Oh, my God. And their other bodies?

38:48🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, they found three more bodies when we were there. You just have to wait on time, kind of, they'll eventually come out. And we go swimming in the river every day, and there's like dead bodies in it.

38:58🔗 Drew Nice, very nice. Terrell 20, what's going on, buddy?

39:02🔗 Caller What's up?

39:03🔗 I had a question about, I smoke a lot of marijuana, like, a couple times.

39:08🔗 Jack Osbourne No kidding.

39:08🔗 Drew No kidding, dude.

39:10🔗 Jack Osbourne Pum-high.

39:11🔗 And I want to know, lately, like, in the past month or so, I like, I don't even need to smoke nearly as much. I could just take a couple hits, and I'll be extremely stoned, like, to where I used to have to smoke a couple bowls.

39:25🔗 Drew Well, there's a couple theories about that. There's all these MRI evidence of stuff laid down in your brain, left behind by the pot, that sometimes enhances the intoxicating effect. Also, your lipid system is completely saturated. Usually, you take the pot, and it sort of interfaces, it sort of gets into the fat tissue, but you've probably completely saturated that system now, where wherever you smoke gets into your bloodstream and stays there. Yeah. So there you go. You've really done a number on yourself.

39:51🔗 And if I quit, I'd go away, right?

39:54🔗 Drew Could take quite a while. Well, the fat will stay in the fat forever, basically.

39:58🔗 Jack Osbourne Unless you really start losing weight or something. Yeah, and doing crazy herbal detoxes and food fasts and all this kind of stuff.

40:04🔗 Drew It will come out.

40:05🔗 Jack Osbourne Come out, yeah.

40:05🔗 Drew Some people get high when they run, even just when they've stopped smoking pot, and they start losing weight and go out there running.

40:11🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, but just for heads up, if you smoke a lot of pot, I was reading about in England how 80% of the psychiatric wards now are filled with men under 24 that are all in there for marijuana psychosis.

40:25🔗 Drew And I'll tell you that most of, not most, but a significant percentage of the addicts we treat now have a marijuana as if not a primary, at least a major contributor to the addictive process. And when marijuana is addictive, it is very hard to stop. And you love that stuff. And when you love something, it's pretty mean, it's like giving up anything else you love, it's impossible. And I tell you, you better watch it, because what happens is you get depressed, you start having trouble functioning at school, completing tasks, getting panic attacks. Eventually, what always happens with pot is that its effects start wearing off. Have you had that happen yet? Well, you're getting used to getting high with it.

40:58🔗 Caller It seemed to like...

41:00🔗 Drew You're having the opposite. Yeah.

41:02🔗 Caller So I was wondering, do they think anything like there's a reverse?

41:06🔗 Drew No, no, I just explained to you what it was. You were sort of too high to catch it, I guess. But yeah.

41:11🔗 Caller Are you high right now?

41:13🔗 Caller Yeah, I am.

41:14🔗 Drew Yeah, he's high all the time. Permahigh, as you said. And when you're ready to stop, you let somebody know, because this isn't something you're going to easily be able to do on your own. And when people do stop, there's often a very severe depression for about six months after they stop. So I would definitely look into it. Heather, 21.

41:31🔗 Caller Oh, hi.

41:33🔗 Caller I was just calling because I have this at night. I have this discharge, this really, really bad discharge.

41:38🔗 Drew Two times.

41:39🔗 Caller I'm sorry?

41:40🔗 Drew Nothing. Go ahead.

41:41🔗 Caller And it's just there's so much of it, and it's only when I'm sleeping. And I saw somebody about it, and she told me to take antihistamines.

41:50🔗 Drew Oh, that's interesting.

41:51🔗 Caller Yeah, and it helps, but only like half the time.

41:55🔗 Drew Weird. Was that sort of to dry things up?

41:58🔗 Caller I guess so.

41:59🔗 Caller And, but the weird thing is that when I'm having sex on a semi-regular basis, it doesn't happen.

42:06🔗 Drew That's very interesting. Did they give you a name for this?

42:09🔗 Caller No. She just said that that's just how much...

42:12🔗 Drew Just you.

42:13🔗 Caller Yeah, that's just how much I produce.

42:16🔗 Drew I agree with her. I don't think it doesn't mean anything. I don't know why it's just at night, and maybe you are producing it during the day, but somehow it doesn't accumulate the same way, or it's not as obvious. I also don't really understand why it's diminished when you're having sex. It doesn't quite make sense to me.

42:31🔗 Caller Yeah, like even if I'm just having sex on a regular basis, it wouldn't even have to be the same night or whatever. It just doesn't happen. And it's weird too because it's not like... Gosh, I totally lost what I was going to say.

42:47🔗 Drew Well, the discharges are sort of all over the place. Jack is cringing.

42:53🔗 Caller I know, it's gross.

42:55🔗 Jack Osbourne No, it's not.

42:55🔗 Caller It's the problem is that it like soaks my bed.

42:58🔗 Drew Nice.

42:58🔗 Caller Wow.

42:59🔗 Jack Osbourne Are you sure you're just not paying yourself a night?

43:01🔗 Caller I mean...

43:03🔗 Caller I mean, I've tried everything. I wear like a tampon, a pad, everything and it still soaks through.

43:08🔗 Jack Osbourne Depends.

43:09🔗 Drew And now you're having sex.

43:11🔗 Caller That's a good idea.

43:12🔗 Drew Do you have sort of night arousals, like night orgasms, that kind of thing?

43:16🔗 Caller No, I never had an orgasm.

43:18🔗 Drew ever?

43:19🔗 Caller No.

43:20🔗 Drew That's a problem. But you get sexually aroused during the night?

43:25🔗 Caller No.

43:25🔗 Drew You have sexy dreams or anything?

43:27🔗 Caller No, I really don't dream.

43:30🔗 Jack Osbourne Maybe you just don't remember them. Don't you have like 4,000 dreams a night or something?

43:33🔗 Drew Absolutely. A lot of me don't remember. Are you on medication?

43:36🔗 Caller Yes.

43:36🔗 Caller What are you taking?

43:38🔗 Caller Effexor and Neurontin.

43:40🔗 Drew Are you depressed?

43:41🔗 Caller No, that's why I have the Effexor.

43:44🔗 Drew But I mean that's what you're taking for. Depression and anxiety. Depression and anxiety, yeah. Did you have this discharge before you got all that medication?

43:53🔗 Caller No, it was a couple years after that, but it did start happening before I had sex. So it's not STD related.

44:01🔗 Drew And does it get worse when your period is coming?

44:03🔗 Caller No.

44:05🔗 Drew All right, we got to move on. I agree with Anderson. It's not something we're going to be able to figure out. It sounds normal. Nothing you should be worried about. It's just a nuisance, okay?

44:12🔗 Caller Can I ask you a question about HPV?

44:14🔗 Drew Yeah.

44:15🔗 Caller You said that most girls who have it don't even know that they have it.

44:18🔗 Drew Yes.

44:19🔗 Caller But at the same time, the only way you can get tested is during an outbreak.

44:24🔗 Drew No, that's not true. You can get tested when you have your Pap smear done. They can usually detect it.

44:30🔗 Caller Oh, okay.

44:31🔗 Drew Okay. If you have an outbreak and see the war, then obviously you have it. But most people don't see the war, don't have an outbreak, and still have evidence of the virus there, and they can be contagious at any time from then on. Most people, the virus burns itself out within a couple of years. A lot of people, the virus persists, and those are the people for whom there's a risk of cervical cancer. Right, Jack?

44:51🔗 Jack Osbourne Yes.

44:51🔗 Drew Jack Osbourne in the studio. Phone number here is 1-800-LOVE-191.

44:56🔗 Jack Osbourne That was a strange call.

44:59🔗 Caller That was weird.

45:01🔗 Drew You had a puss on the whole time.

45:03🔗 Jack Osbourne What do you say to that? I can't relate. I haven't dealt with that from personal experience.

45:07🔗 Drew Well, discharges are all over the place. Women have lots of kinds of discharges that are normal. And this one sounded very normal to me. So again, we're going to take another quick break. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Give us a call. Talk to Jack Osbourne. We'll be right back. Jack Osborne on Loveline, 1-800-L- The movie or the series is going to be Jack Osbourne, Adrenaline Junkie. Is the Osbourne still playing somewhere?

45:47🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, there's reruns on right now.

45:50🔗 Drew On MTV or MTV2 or somewhere else?

45:53🔗 Jack Osbourne No, I was watching the reruns in England when I was there last, but yeah, I think they still play occasionally.

45:57🔗 Drew And do you spend your time between Los Angeles or Hollywood in England?

46:01🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, that's pretty much it now.

46:02🔗 Drew Still the same house that we all saw on television?

46:05🔗 Jack Osbourne My parents are still in that house, I moved out.

46:07🔗 Drew Do you live out here in Hollywood though somewhere?

46:08🔗 Jack Osbourne Yes, I do.

46:09🔗 Drew And then you have a place in England also?

46:10🔗 Jack Osbourne Yes.

46:11🔗 Drew And again, in England, you're doing a series where you do crazy stuff all over the continent of Europe.

46:16🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, and all over the world, really.

46:17🔗 Drew All over the world?

46:18🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

46:19🔗 Drew And it's more extreme sports or extreme?

46:21🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, it's more, we're trying to really push the kind of, it's more like anything physically enduring to where failure could result in death.

46:31🔗 Drew Nice. Have you come close?

46:33🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, yeah, yeah, a few times, but nothing too, probably the worst thing was that climb when Jack Vador.

46:39🔗 Drew Yeah, you mentioned that. Was there another one? We're in Thailand or?

46:44🔗 Jack Osbourne No, it was pretty, you got a little mic for him, Jack? Well, we, you know, Touchwood, we had a pretty safe series, but this next one could get kind of hectic.

46:54🔗 Drew Jeremy 20.

46:56🔗 Caller Hi, Dr. Drew.

46:57🔗 Drew What's up, Jeremy?

46:58🔗 Caller I'm wondering if I should get a reversal surgery for a surgery that I had, that's kind of messed me up.

47:03🔗 Drew What's going on?

47:04🔗 Caller It's called ETS surgery where they cut the ganglia on your nerve and they stop you from sweating from the nipple up.

47:12🔗 Drew They do it in your, they did it in the neck, huh? They went through your chest?

47:15🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah, they did it on the side like with the scope. And I had it for basal blushing too, and that was my problem.

47:21🔗 Drew It's for head sweating and that sort of thing. It's sort of, you know, some people get a predominant sweating in the head or in the back and this sort of thing, hands, palms, and there are surgeries where they cut the ganglion that supplies that either the head and face or the hands in the case of people that sweat in their palms. And it works, works quite well, and the sweating sort of goes back to normal. You start sweating in usual spots. What's been the problem with this?

47:45🔗 Caller It was facial blushing was the reason I got it, and it didn't quit my facial blushing. And now that I don't sweat above the nipple, the lower half of my bottom body is like 300 percent. Like I soak through my clothes, I soak through my mattress. Above 70 degrees, I just soak through my clothes completely.

48:02🔗 Drew Have you had an evaluation to see why you're having drenching sweats? I mean, there are different medical conditions that can cause that.

48:07🔗 Caller They talk about it like my body is making up for not sweating above.

48:11🔗 Drew No, I understand that, but that's what happens, but you don't normally sweat through your sheets and sweat through your mattress, that sort of thing. That is usually a medical form of night sweat, and that needs to be evaluated more thoroughly.

48:23🔗 I never had any kind of sweating problem before I got the surgery.

48:26🔗 Caller They say it's just like, just because I don't sweat above, I sweat so much below, and my heart rate is 40 now, and it used to be 80.

48:36🔗 Drew It changes your system, there's no doubt about it, and there's very little known about the sympathetic, or rather the autonomic nervous system and its effect on the emotional systems. I know your sympathetic and parasympathetic system is the part that regulates your blood pressure, and your heart rate, and the sweating, and this kind of thing, but that system is deeply ingrained in your emotional systems as well. They end in the emotional systems in the brain, and certainly integrate with those systems. So it makes sense that you do things to that system, and you might get problems with how you feel.

49:05🔗 Jack Osbourne Could dieting, is that anything to do with over-sweating?

49:09🔗 Drew It's a pretty aggressive intervention, and usually it works. Usually it works quite well, but it's something that can't be reversed to my knowledge, so it's something you've got to kind of learn to live with.

49:17🔗 Jack Osbourne Jeremy, how much do you weigh?

49:20🔗 180.

49:21🔗 Jack Osbourne How tall are you?

49:23🔗 Caller 5'9.

49:24🔗 Drew Oh, so you're much about right. I can't stress strong enough. I would just double-check to make sure there's not something causing the excessive sweating, because usually you're reiterated four times, because I'm not sweating above the nipple, I'm making up for it the rest of my body. Yes, but normally you sweat normally on the rest of your body, not excessively, and I understand that you didn't have an excessive sweating problem before the surgery, but maybe something else has gone on, too, that has sort of not just changed the distribution of the sweating, but accelerated the kind of sweating you're getting. So I would go have a thorough and complete medical evaluation. Antonio, 21.

50:00🔗 Caller Yeah, I just had a quick question.

50:02🔗 Caller First of all, Jack, I love you, I love your family. I recently had a sexual affair with somebody in Tijuana, Mexico.

50:15🔗 Caller And I heard through a friend that she was pretty pissed off about it.

50:21🔗 Jack Osbourne That's always fun, sexual affairs in TJ.

50:23🔗 Caller Yeah.

50:24🔗 Caller Yeah, it tends to happen.

50:26🔗 Caller But I heard from a friend that she was pretty pissed off about it. We were both pretty drunk and I heard from a friend that she was pretty pissed off about it. And the thing is, I just want to know if there's anything that she can do to take me to court and just squash me. The thing is that she's kind of a celebrity.

50:49🔗 Jack Osbourne Well, did you use a condom?

50:51🔗 Caller Yeah, yeah, I mean, that was in Halloween. So, I mean, I'm sure I would have heard by now if she was late. But then I heard from a friend that she was really pissed off about the whole situation. She's telling everybody that I came on to her and that, you know, it was like pretty much forced and stuff.

51:11🔗 Drew Well, people can do anything they want. They can claim anything they want. They can cause a lot of hassles for you. But whether she can sort of really carry through on this, really, I doubt it.

51:21🔗 Jack Osbourne I think if she's a celebrity or kind of a celebrity, it's going to be more of a headache on her behalf if she wants to take this to court because it's going to show her up and everyone thinks she's going to be like a bit of a hussy because she sleeps with guys on one night stands. It's just like, you know.

51:34🔗 Drew But she's going to claim it's a rape.

51:35🔗 Jack Osbourne Ah, rape.

51:36🔗 Drew See, that's sort of the road she's going down. And that's hard to prove. What's that?

51:40🔗 Caller I heard from a friend that she didn't really say rape.

51:43🔗 Caller She was just saying, oh yeah, he forced himself on me and I had no choice, and this and that.

51:48🔗 Drew Well, that's, without saying, using the word rape, that's describing rape.

51:52🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

51:53🔗 Caller Okay. Right on.

51:55🔗 Drew All right, well, we don't have anything else to say about that, unless you're going to tell us more information.

51:59🔗 Jack Osbourne Like who it is. It gets really juicy.

52:01🔗 Drew Right. Let's give one more chance. You going to tell us who it is?

52:04🔗 Caller What is that?

52:05🔗 Jack Osbourne You going to tell us who it is?

52:07🔗 Caller Um, probably not.

52:09🔗 Caller I'm pretty sure you know her.

52:11🔗 Jack Osbourne Really?

52:12🔗 Caller Yeah.

52:13🔗 Jack Osbourne How old? Just throw out an age and then I'll tell you. Then I'll guess if I do or not.

52:19🔗 Caller An age? I believe she's 19 or 20.

52:21🔗 Jack Osbourne Okay.

52:23🔗 Drew That's somebody you would know?

52:24🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, I think if it's who I'm thinking who's 19.

52:30🔗 Drew Oh, you actually...

52:32🔗 Jack Osbourne He said you probably know her. Wow.

52:34🔗 Drew And somebody who goes to Tijuana?

52:36🔗 Jack Osbourne I don't know. Potentially, maybe.

52:39🔗 Drew Really? Interesting. Are you going to tell me who it is?

52:43🔗 Caller Who cares?

52:44🔗 Drew All right, Anderson, I understand you're bored. Clyde at 24.

52:47🔗 Caller Hi.

52:48🔗 Caller I was wondering if... I don't think it's normal, but my boyfriend, when he does math, he turns into a girl. He's wearing female clothes and just weird stuff.

53:01🔗 Drew Like what? What weird stuff? Wait a minute.

53:03🔗 Caller What weird stuff? He does anal stuff and all that, and makeup and his voice gets higher and he puts on heels and everything. But when he's not high, he swears he's not gay. He swears he's not gay when he's high too, but he swears that there's nothing better than for putting, for where to put his penis, because it's actually made for it.

53:29🔗 Drew Oh, well, that's a perfect explanation. Yeah, in fact...

53:33🔗 Jack Osbourne I actually thought it was made for something else.

53:34🔗 Drew Yeah, so of course the gay men that enjoy putting it elsewhere just seem to be just sort of misconstruing where it's supposed to go. That's all, they have lost the concept of where the penis is supposed to go. Claudette, listen, this is all ridiculous. She, he is cross-dressing, and cross-dressing is a separate issue from sexual orientation. Just because he cross-dresses doesn't mean he's gay. And I will tell you, people that do a lot of amphetamine will act out sexually in strange and sort of de-repressed ways.

54:01🔗 Jack Osbourne And the meth might be giving him that confidence to where he can actually express that and not feel self-conscious.

54:06🔗 Drew That's right. And so it's an issue, it's something going on, and the whole anal manipulation, I don't know what that has to do with this, but as we talked about earlier this evening, some guys kind of like that, gay or not. You know, he's a cross-dresser. What are you going to do? You going to stay with this?

54:23🔗 Caller Well, that's what I'm wondering is that if he's been with men before and he likes them to be inside of him only when he's high, but then when he's sober, he says he likes women.

54:33🔗 Drew Now, wait a minute. Hold on. Now, hold on a second. Is this bogus, Claudette?

54:38🔗 Caller No. No.

54:39🔗 Drew But you didn't say anything about him having men inside. You just talked about him cross-dressing.

54:43🔗 Caller Well, he's got, like, a few times he's had men inside of him, but he's not in Detroit.

54:47🔗 Caller Yeah, he's gay.

54:48🔗 Drew He's gay, yeah. He says men inside of him, men who have men inside of them are gay.

54:52🔗 Jack Osbourne Usually. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a real, I don't believe in bi.

54:56🔗 Drew I don't either, and there's, well, not for the most part. And there's a thing as men who have sex with men that aren't gay in terms of a formal orientation. But let's just, for the sake of argument tonight, call this guy gay.

55:05🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

55:06🔗 Drew And why he's acting, again, amphetamine, I've seen a lot of this, where guys act out sexually with other men when they're high on speed. Even guys who are, call themselves straight the rest of the time, all of a sudden, pow, they're out there with a guy. He's male prostitutes and things. You guys know some people, too? Yeah.

55:21🔗 I have to leave at the whole line.

55:23🔗 Drew Well, there's one there. How about that? All right. Well, look, he's an amphetamine. The bigger issue here is that he is an amphetamine addict that needs to be treated. That's going to progress, get a lot worse. And he may put you in harm's way, God knows, with his acting out in the meantime. Amanda, what's up? 19.

55:39🔗 Caller Hi, Dr. Drew. First off, I want to say that I really, really enjoy your show and all your advice.

55:44🔗 Drew Thank you.

55:45🔗 Caller Okay. Well, my question regards me and my on-again, off-again boyfriend. We got involved after like a long, long time of like, you know, denial. He liked me and I didn't like him. And just because, you know, he's a bad boy kind of thing and I'm a good girl. And then we got together and we went out for about like three months or so. And then during that time, we kept like breaking up. And one of the times that we broke up because he said, you know, we were too different. And another time he said, you know, he's not ready for a serious relationship. And then after the breakup, he kept like pretty much kept coming back and saying, you know, he still cares about me.

56:21🔗 Drew And would you have sex with him when he came back?

56:25🔗 Caller He was actually like my first real love, first real everything.

56:28🔗 Drew You didn't answer the question.

56:30🔗 Caller I'm sorry.

56:31🔗 Caller We we were sexually active. We didn't have sex like other stuff.

56:36🔗 Drew When he would come back around, would you have sexual relationships with him?

56:40🔗 Caller We were more like making out.

56:43🔗 Caller And when he came back, like he knew I was like a virgin before and all that. And a while ago, a couple of months ago, maybe two months ago, he came back apologizing for everything. And he said he's still confused about where he stands and not with us, just like he's confused about his life.

57:00🔗 Drew How old is he?

57:02🔗 Caller He's 19 too.

57:03🔗 Drew All right. What's the question?

57:05🔗 Caller I was not sure what I'm supposed to do with him because he's trying to figure stuff out for himself. And recently he broke it off again.

57:13🔗 Drew Move on. Bad Amanda, come on. Come on. 19. These things aren't supposed to last forever. Get on date with the people. Maybe even don't need a boyfriend right now. Just get used to figuring out who you are in relationships.

57:24🔗 Jack Osbourne Go online. Meet a guy.

57:26🔗 Drew Enjoy. Really.

57:28🔗 Caller Move on.

57:30🔗 Drew Move on.

57:32🔗 Caller But do you think he's just kind of like weirded out or I'm not really sure?

57:35🔗 Drew I don't know him, but I know you're wasting your time and you're 19 and you shouldn't be wasting any more time with this guy. He's not committed. You're not into it. You're not getting much out of this. Maybe someday you will, but for now, go out and start dating other guys. Okay?

57:48🔗 Caller Okay. Thank you.

57:49🔗 Drew All right. Logan 22. Logan, what's going on?

57:53🔗 Caller One of my girlfriends, well, one of my girlfriends, she is worried that us having anal sex is gonna in the future leave her with uncontrollable bowels.

58:04🔗 Drew They can do that.

58:06🔗 Jack Osbourne How much are you having it and what else are you putting in there?

58:11🔗 Caller Actually nothing, just me and not very often, but...

58:15🔗 Drew It can do that. It can cause tears, fissures, prolapse. Oh, we got David Aguirre talking about prolapse in there.

58:21🔗 Caller Wow.

58:22🔗 Drew All right.

58:22🔗 Caller Well, that was my question.

58:24🔗 Drew It's a part of the body that has lots of pathology as you age. Normally, you do this stuff to it. I believe we're gonna see a lot more serious stuff down the road. Let's hear David Aguirre talk about it.

58:35🔗 Caller What I say?

58:36🔗 Caller What I say?

58:37🔗 Caller What I say? I got feelings for you. Can I prolapse your anus?

58:42🔗 Drew All right, Logan. Why are you so into that anyway?

58:44🔗 Caller Actually, I'm not very into it at all. We've done it a few times.

58:49🔗 Drew All right. Then no big deal. It's good times. Heather, 28. What's going on there?

58:52🔗 Caller Hi, Dr. Drew. How are you?

58:53🔗 Drew I'm good, Heather. What's up with you?

58:55🔗 Caller Great. I am an upper-level escort, so please don't judge me too much. What does that mean? That I'm not walking the streets and that I'm somewhere around $400 or $500 an hour.

59:07🔗 Drew Okay. You're a biker, is that what you said?

59:10🔗 Caller No, I'm an escort.

59:11🔗 Drew No, I thought you said, I'm a biker or something.

59:14🔗 Caller No, I'm a rider.

59:15🔗 Drew Well, rider, rider. Okay.

59:18🔗 Caller So I'm supplementing my income.

59:20🔗 Drew Do you have dual lives?

59:23🔗 Caller No, because everybody in my life knows about the other, just because I realize that there are risks with what I do. And if something ever would have happened to me, the last way that I would want my family to find out would be via newspapers or media or the cops, you know what I'm saying?

59:41🔗 Drew So who in your family do you tell about this?

59:43🔗 Caller Oh, everybody in my family knows.

59:45🔗 Caller That you're aware.

59:47🔗 Jack Osbourne Wow. Prostate. Yeah, for lack of a better word. I mean, did you just go, ding, one day, I'm going to be an upper class hooker because there's good money?

59:55🔗 Caller No, actually, I used to work for the government and myself and three other women in our office were being sexually harassed by our boss, who was male. And I decided that I was going to do the right thing and stood up for all of us. Of course, I was 24 or 25 then. So, you know, I was idealistic, but I'm doing the right thing. Yada, yada, yada. So long story short, I am not able to work for the government anymore as a contractor. I'm sorry, I'm walking into the house. I'm not able to work as a contractor, so that was kind of, you know, that was my thing, that's what I did. I grew up in the Washington, DC area, and that's what you do. You know, my parents worked for the government. So you follow-

1:00:42🔗 Drew So everyone, like, when all the guys get dismissed from UAW, they become male prostitutes. That's what you do, you have a job.

1:00:48🔗 Jack Osbourne There's no connection here. You got fired from working for the government, and now you become a prostitute. Like, what?

1:00:56🔗 Caller Well, when you live in the Washington DC area and you've worked for the government, no private sector business will hire you because of the stigma of underworked and overpaid.

1:01:07🔗 Drew You've got to be kidding. Heather, please. Oh, come on.

1:01:10🔗 Caller Look, you can judge me. I enjoy myself.

1:01:12🔗 Drew I'm not judging you. I'm saying your thinking is disturbed. That doesn't make any sense at all. You know what?

1:01:19🔗 Caller There are plenty of women out there who have one-night stands in Tijuana.

1:01:23🔗 Drew There's plenty of men out there. Now you're going on to something else, Heather. Now you're going on to hold up for your jumping topics, your oblique. Here's the deal. We're just saying, why did you go from losing your job in one sector to going, well, now I'm a prostitute? As opposed to finding new work as everybody else does when the factory closes down, when they've been in one profession and that profession no longer is available to them, or they have injuries and they need vocational rehab. Whatever it is, people find new work. They don't become prostitutes.

1:01:52🔗 Caller I agree.

1:01:53🔗 Drew So why didn't you do that?

1:01:55🔗 Caller I made a different choice. And I don't have moralistic issues with my choice.

1:02:00🔗 Drew We don't either. I just don't want to, I have moralistic issues with BS. And so you had a bunch of BS you were giving us there and I don't like to hear that.

1:02:07🔗 Caller I did switch careers and I work as a writer and it does not pay the bills very well. I'm not a person who wants to work two or three jobs. Most people don't. And so I found a different route that works for me.

1:02:21🔗 Caller She's a ho, ho, ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, ho, she's a ho, she's a ho, she's a ho.

1:02:26🔗 Drew Okay. And so what's the question tonight?

1:02:28🔗 Caller The question is, I do perform oral sex as most people do, but obviously I'm in a higher risk category. I do not use condoms for that. However, I do use condoms obviously for everything else. And so the question is, what is the real risk of transmitting sexually transmitted diseases? I've done plenty of research. I've spoken to my doctor. My understanding is that for a majority of it, with the exclusion of an open sore in the oral cavity, the risk is relatively small. It's still there, but small.

1:03:08🔗 Drew The risk would be from the mucosal services, gonorrhea or chlamydia. You can get that in the throat. But the risk of the viral diseases is primarily caused by swallowing semen. So if you avoid that, you sort of take that risk down. All right, so your risk is lowish.

1:03:22🔗 Jack Osbourne What about, can I get herpes that way?

1:03:23🔗 Drew It works like she said, you can get skin lesions. You can get herpes, you can give herpes, you can get gonorrhea, you can get chlamydia, you can get syphilis, but it's relatively uncommon. It's not, but it happens. So there you go.

1:03:33🔗 Caller Phenomenal.

1:03:34🔗 Drew So it's a vocational liability.

1:03:37🔗 Caller That's correct.

1:03:38🔗 Drew Do you do anything funny with these guys? Do these guys ever ask you to do weird stuff?

1:03:42🔗 Caller No, I don't attract that sort of client base. My advertising is such that I present myself as the intelligent individual that I am. So I kind of-

1:03:51🔗 Drew Do you have regular clients?

1:03:52🔗 Caller Yeah, of course I do.

1:03:54🔗 Drew Were you sexually abused as a kid yourself?

1:03:58🔗 Caller We can go into tons of psychology if you'd like. Yes, I was physically abused by a stepfather, verbally, emotionally, mentally abused by a mother.

1:04:06🔗 Drew All right. So that's where the-

1:04:07🔗 Caller My next door neighbor. My first experience with sex was raped at 14 by a friend.

1:04:11🔗 Drew All right. So that's where this sort of boundarylessness comes in your relationships and where the sort of what normal people would perceive as a something they wouldn't be inclined to go towards. You don't see that because of all the abuse or you actually may seek it as a way of reenacting the trauma. In fact, you know, things that terrorize in childhood becomes become very attractive in adulthood.

1:04:33🔗 Caller We agree.

1:04:35🔗 Caller I've never been in a physically abusive relationship with a man.

1:04:41🔗 Jack Osbourne Um, I do have a cell, but you said, but you sell your body.

1:04:44🔗 Drew That's like, uh, it's an exact reproduction of what you went through. You may, you may, yeah, you may not have any bad feelings about it. That's fine. But in fact, that's what I'm saying. We find attractive those things that were terrorizing in childhood. And you're, and you, and you enlist people to reenact it over and over and over again. And that's what you're doing. And you get stuck in this trauma cycle. And if that's working for you right now, so be it. You're very easy.

1:05:11🔗 Jack Osbourne She's got that stripper attitude. Like, I'm right, you're wrong. It's okay.

1:05:15🔗 Drew What it begs, no discussion. And that's fine. You do whatever you want. No one cares. That's really, I mean, we care if you're in, if you're in harm's way and if you're hurting, we care for you as a human being. But whatever you want to do, you go ahead and do. Did you see My Name Is Earl last week?

1:05:29🔗 Jack Osbourne I haven't seen that show yet.

1:05:30🔗 Drew It's very funny and, oh, it's hysterical. And the-

1:05:33🔗 Jack Osbourne We're actually talking about it on the way in.

1:05:34🔗 Drew His ex-stepmother comes in and she's a gambling addict and she does these outrageous things and every time she does it, he finds out, he goes, don't judge me, don't judge me. You cannot judge me. I make my own choices. Like, nobody's judging, Heather. Heather, no one's judging. No one's judging. Jack, are you judging? No, we're interested. We're very interested in what makes people motivate, motivates them to do these things. There you go. You have all the history of someone that does what you do. Almost every time I've ever talked to somebody like that. Sarah, what's going on? You're 20. Sarah?

1:06:05🔗 Caller What?

1:06:05🔗 Drew Hi. Hey, what's up?

1:06:08🔗 Caller Is this Drew?

1:06:09🔗 Caller Here you go.

1:06:11🔗 Drew This is where you talk to us. Yeah.

1:06:14🔗 Caller Are you supposed to answer my question now?

1:06:16🔗 Drew Yes, please.

1:06:17🔗 Caller Okay, sorry. Okay. My boyfriend is in Iraq right now fighting. But he's married and has a lot of kids. But when we first got together, he told me that they were in the process of getting a divorce. But the only reason they were together still is for the army discount, benefit stuff.

1:06:37🔗 Drew Boy, we had a call like this last time. This keeps happening again and again and again, that these guys get married to have certain benefits. But then the relationship with the so-called wife seems to be a little bit more than just a convenience arrangement. So what do you want to do here? What's going on?

1:06:53🔗 Jack Osbourne But you're going to have kids here.

1:06:54🔗 Drew Yeah, what do you mean David? There's a child involved with this?

1:06:59🔗 Caller There's a lot. He has an old girlfriend from before that and they have three kids. And then there's this wife and he has a killer purse.

1:07:06🔗 Drew Oh, this guy sounds like a delight. Sarah, this is the guy you want to get your hands on.

1:07:11🔗 Jack Osbourne Absolutely.

1:07:12🔗 Drew This guy, in fact, do me a favor. You should have four kids, that way you'll trump the other wives. And then this guy will have eight illegitimate children out there that he's sired. This criminal, thank god he's fighting in Iraq trying to redeem himself. I mean, at least he's being of service. But for god's sakes, for god's sakes, Sarah, what are you doing?

1:07:34🔗 Caller Well, he was my first.

1:07:36🔗 Drew That's great. How old is he? How old is he? How old is he? How old? 28. All right. Let him go.

1:07:51🔗 Caller He was really sweet.

1:07:52🔗 Drew No one's with their first anymore. Yeah, he's also killing loads of people right now. This is a horrible guy. I know your feeling is that he's a certain guy that you wish him to be. That is not who he is. This is a bad guy who's actually a burden to society by siring kids. He doesn't take care of them and doesn't fall through on creating a family with. He certainly isn't going to do it with you, sir. I'm sorry. It's just not going to happen. These guys don't turn it around.

1:08:16🔗 Jack Osbourne He's not even in the country.

1:08:17🔗 Drew He's away anyway. He's away with his wife and kid. Come on. Let's get it together here. Let's break it down. Have a life here. Let's get another guy.

1:08:25🔗 Jack Osbourne Suzy Homebraker.

1:08:26🔗 Drew Get a guy your age. Somebody who really cares about you, a little less exciting than this guy. He leads a much happier life.

1:08:33🔗 Jack Osbourne He doesn't wield weapons.

1:08:34🔗 Drew No, or even the weapon wielding is okay, as long as he doesn't have a wife and kids. Jack Osbourne in the studio. Phone number again, 1-800-LOVE-191. You'll be able to see Jack Osbourne on Mentor in the spring. Jack Osbourne, Adrenaline Junkie coming up sometime soon, we hope. Yeah. Where he climbs El Capitan and-

1:08:52🔗 Jack Osbourne Hopefully doesn't die.

1:08:53🔗 Drew Leaps off Yosemite Falls and we'll be right back. There we go. It's Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191, Jack Osbourne. And there's a call in there that says, How can you not bring up transfer of AIDS orally? Which we did talk about. We talked about how it's transferred through semen particularly. And she talked about the risk, which she said was obvious, but that is relatively uncommon to get through oral sex. So I'm not going to take that call, those of you doing the screening. This is Quentin, 16.

1:09:31🔗 Caller Yeah, I've been trying to, I broke my hip a year ago and I have real bad pain and I've been wanting to get my cannabis card.

1:09:40🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, I don't.

1:09:42🔗 Caller Liar, liar whore, liar whore, you know it.

1:09:44🔗 Drew I'm sure he has been getting a cannabis card because he smokes a lot of pot.

1:09:47🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, it's very apparent you smoke a lot of pot, Quentin.

1:09:50🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:52🔗 Drew I've never been asked for cannabis for therapeutic purposes from anyone other than a marijuana addict.

1:09:58🔗 Caller Well, I like, I love marijuana, but I have really bad pain, dude.

1:10:04🔗 Caller There's nothing else that will take the pain away.

1:10:07🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, there is. It's called physiotherapy and Advil.

1:10:10🔗 Drew All kinds of things. Are you on pain killers also in addition to pot?

1:10:14🔗 Caller Oh, yeah. I like painkillers. They're good.

1:10:15🔗 Drew Well, that's the painkillers in pot actually cause pain, Quentin. They actually induce a syndrome in the brain where pain intensifies, and you can get low back pain, headaches, limb pain, and it's basically a chronic state of withdrawal you're in, and it takes about three months for that pain to go away once you stop the pot. So the pot would not be the right thing for you. However, if you were dying of cancer or something, fine, you enjoy it. But that's not you. You're just a marijuana addict, an opiate addict. Neil, 24.

1:10:41🔗 Hey, guys.

1:10:42🔗 Drew Neil, what's going on?

1:10:43🔗 Caller I just am having some trouble understanding this whole theory behind women wanting to go after the bad guy, the abusive guy, and I don't understand it fully because, I mean, I'm a 24-year-old young guy, but I'm extremely successful.

1:10:58🔗 Jack Osbourne Nice Guy Syndrome.

1:10:59🔗 Drew Yeah, too nice.

1:11:00🔗 Jack Osbourne It's a Nice Guy Syndrome, and I see it a lot within my friends.

1:11:05🔗 Caller I can't bring myself to disrespect somebody so drastically.

1:11:09🔗 Drew No, no, no. There's two things. One is who are you choosing? You're choosing women that probably have some issues and sort of are more attracted to more brutal men, men that are more unpleasant to be around. There's a certain personality. Basically, people with borderline personality traits tend to be attracted to people with sociopathic traits, men. And so you're sort of going for these sort of very borderline-ish female probably, and they're not interested in you. Secondly, no women are interested in guys that are clingy and that are sort of not sensitive. Yeah, not ready to lead lead, not to really take the lead in a relationship and give a piece of themselves into the relationship.

1:11:46🔗 Jack Osbourne How's your self-confidence?

1:11:47🔗 Caller Oh, I'm great. The thing is, is not necessarily do I have the hero syndrome. Instead, I actually tend to go for girls that I think would be the kind of person that I could have a lasting relationship on equality with, right?

1:12:00🔗 Drew Yeah, but who knows what that means?

1:12:02🔗 Caller Well, you know, something where I can feel as though I'm a peer with somebody.

1:12:05🔗 Drew Yeah, I understand. That's your perception of who they are, but you're the one doing the choosing, so who knows what that actually means? Oh, that's true. You're choosing people who are not, you're attracted to people who are not attracted to you. And that, you know, you're choosing young women?

1:12:22🔗 Caller I have an age range. I would prefer to have a woman older than 21, younger than 28.

1:12:29🔗 Drew The Star Wars sound there. Star Trek.

1:12:31🔗 Jack Osbourne Star Trek to me.

1:12:34🔗 Drew Neil, you know, there's no doubt that a good guy who is successful, who has something to offer, will find somebody. And if that's not happening, you're not going to be the only guy on earth that can't find somebody. That's not it. But if you consist on being around and attracted to people who aren't into you, the only variable in this is you. And that must mean you're choosing people or insisting upon going after people that are not available. Very well. Right? That's the only variable in this is you.

1:13:05🔗 Jack Osbourne I mean, if you're a stand up guy, you know.

1:13:07🔗 Drew You will find somebody.

1:13:08🔗 Jack Osbourne Absolutely.

1:13:08🔗 Drew You have to date a lot. You have to work at it like anything else. You have to go out and meet people. You can't sit home and wait people to come to you.

1:13:14🔗 Caller No, that's not the case either. I mean, almost every weekend, I'm going out with my friends and I'm always open to meeting new people and being in situations where...

1:13:23🔗 Jack Osbourne Get drunk, go to a dance floor and kiss her.

1:13:26🔗 Drew You can't get a date?

1:13:28🔗 Caller Exactly. Exactly.

1:13:29🔗 Drew You can't get a date. You ask people for their phone number and they won't give it to you.

1:13:35🔗 Caller It's any manner of things, right? You ask them for their number and they blow you off or however it is, right? And it's not like I'm an unattractive guy, but I just don't understand it. Do I just exude some kind of vibe of not being the bad boy enough?

1:13:51🔗 Caller Is that it?

1:13:53🔗 Drew Give that up. Unless, again, you're going for women with a certain sort of personality pathology who only go for bad guys.

1:14:02🔗 Caller Drew, this guy's a prime candidate to go on the internet and get a girlfriend.

1:14:06🔗 Caller I am on five dating websites.

1:14:09🔗 Jack Osbourne Wow. Have you tried MySpace? It's the easiest one out of the lot.

1:14:14🔗 Caller He's going to find himself. That's what he's looking for.

1:14:16🔗 Caller I mean, do you guys understand? I'm on MySpace, Match, True. I'm on Chemistry. I'm on eHarmony.

1:14:23🔗 Drew Maybe you're too desperate.

1:14:24🔗 Caller Yeah. No, that's not it at all. For the most part, I go up there not to meet a girlfriend. It's more just to meet people to hang out with, right? People to go do stuff with, rock climb, snowboard, whatever, see movies. It's not necessarily a...

1:14:37🔗 Jack Osbourne Meet a guy on the rock gym.

1:14:39🔗 Drew Well, I... You know, we turn over all the cards. We don't know Neil. We don't know what he looks like. We don't know what he's like in a relationship. I don't know. I don't know what the brand is. But I know that a good guy... Michelle helped me out with this. A good guy who's got something to offer will find somebody. That's all there is to it. This is Anastasia18.

1:14:57🔗 Caller Hi. Dr. Drew, I love your show, first of all.

1:15:01🔗 Drew Thank you.

1:15:03🔗 Caller Well, me and my boyfriend have been dating for nearly a year now and no sex at all. And I'm still a virgin and he's ready. I'm sorry?

1:15:17🔗 Drew That's good. And he's ready?

1:15:18🔗 Caller He's ready.

1:15:19🔗 Caller I think I'm ready.

1:15:20🔗 Caller But I'm nervous because I've obviously never had sex before. And I don't know if like it comes to naturally. I don't want to mess up and have my first time not be memorable.

1:15:36🔗 Drew Well, the first time is never what you expect it to be.

1:15:39🔗 Jack Osbourne Unfortunately, unless it's with a porn star.

1:15:43🔗 Drew It's really the first time is something you kind of got to get through. More than anything. And you guys have to figure each other out. It's going to take some time. Believe me, no matter what you do, he's not going to be disappointed. Guys are very easy to please that way. But it's almost never for a woman some sort of glorious experience that she dreams of. It's just two humans having sexual relationships.

1:16:06🔗 Jack Osbourne And sex is one of the more natural things on the planet.

1:16:09🔗 Drew And so far, pretty much every human that walks the planet does it and has managed to negotiate that first experience. So I think you'll figure that out too, okay?

1:16:17🔗 Caller Okay, thank you so much.

1:16:18🔗 Drew All right, good luck now. This is now Robbie18.

1:16:21🔗 Caller Hey, I just had a question. I was a girl for about a year and about eight months. And this girl is very demanding, sort of just a very self-absorbed kind of a girl. And I just wondered, do you think a young woman, maybe my age, 18 and maybe sort of like kind of getting away with too much, I guess. Like she'd always play the victim role. I mean, like everything I did was wrong, but everything she always did was wrong. Right? Kind of know what I mean?

1:16:54🔗 Drew Well, the women, you know, 18-year-old woman who is on top of the world is basically like a celebrity. And they walk in the room, people look at them, they've got sort of the power, and they do, you know, learn to maybe use that power a little bit in ways that are, you know, they're 18 years old, it's hard for them, it's like 18-year-old basketball stars or something. They don't really know what to do with all this yet, and they may act in ways that they're unpleasant to be around. In terms of her being the victim all the time, it always worries me that somebody actually has been victimized, and people that have been victimized will find reasons to put themselves in a victim role. Nicole 20.

1:17:28🔗 Caller Hey, how's it going?

1:17:29🔗 Drew We're good. What's happening there?

1:17:31🔗 Caller Well, I've been with my boyfriend now for two years. I have scleroderma. I don't know if you're familiar with that.

1:17:39🔗 Drew Do you have crest or scleroderma? PSS.

1:17:41🔗 Caller Scleroderma.

1:17:42🔗 Drew It says progressive systemic sclerosis.

1:17:45🔗 Caller I was, when I was younger, about ten. I've had it since I was three.

1:17:49🔗 Drew Which is, oh, how rare.

1:17:51🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:17:52🔗 Drew It's an autoimmune disease where your soft tissue is attacked, and you get basically thinning and thickening of the skin, and then the sort of a drawing of the skin around the hands particularly. It was called sclerodactyly. You get pulmonary hypertension. You get kidney disease and high blood pressure. It was just some of the things you get. Wow.

1:18:07🔗 Jack Osbourne So it was just a really random strange thing.

1:18:09🔗 Drew It's a bad autoimmune disease.

1:18:11🔗 Caller It doesn't affect my hands at all, though.

1:18:13🔗 Drew You don't have sclerodactyly. No.

1:18:15🔗 Caller It just affected. At first it was like a little red spot on my right leg, and then throughout the years, of course, it spread pretty much about like, I'd say 50 or 60 percent of my body now.

1:18:30🔗 Drew Oh, it's just you have the skin disease. It's morphia then. It's a little bit different.

1:18:34🔗 Caller Yeah. They say it's linear, I guess.

1:18:36🔗 Drew It's morphia. Morphia is something that's usually limited to the skin. So that's not scleroderma. That's not progressive systemic sclerosis. That's morphia. Okay. So anyway, what's the question?

1:18:47🔗 Caller The question would be, in regarding my sex life, it's gone completely down. In the beginning of our relationship, everything was fine, but more so lately, I've actually started going on treatment, and I find when I look at myself, I just, my sex drive just goes down because-

1:19:06🔗 Drew Because you don't feel like you look sexy.

1:19:08🔗 Caller Right.

1:19:09🔗 Jack Osbourne Did your boyfriend tell you you're sexy?

1:19:11🔗 Caller Oh, all the time.

1:19:13🔗 Drew You know, women do this a lot. If they don't, this is this, I wear, why do you wear lingerie? Oh, for me. Not for him, for me. Women do that. If they don't look and feel sexy, it's hard for them to be sexual, and then when their partners say, honey, I love you, you look great anyway, then they feel not only not sexy, but not understood, and feel they get angry with their partners when they try to reassure them.

1:19:33🔗 Jack Osbourne Drew, what was the last time you heard about a disease? You had no idea what it was?

1:19:37🔗 Drew Oh, that's pretty hard. I mean, because I've been around this a long time. So like you've pretty much seen it all. Wow. Yeah. Whether it's Halivort and Spott's disease or Talusa Hunt or all stuff you've never even heard of. I've seen it all.

1:19:49🔗 Caller Wow.

1:19:51🔗 Drew So Nicole, all I would say to you is maybe let in what your boyfriend's telling you and realize he's not just-

1:20:01🔗 Jack Osbourne Blowing smoke?

1:20:01🔗 Drew Not just blowing smoke. He means it.

1:20:03🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah. I mean, if he's still with you too, I mean, guys are pretty shallow and if they don't think a girl's hot, they'll leave him.

1:20:09🔗 Drew They do.

1:20:10🔗 Jack Osbourne Ultimately.

1:20:10🔗 Drew Guys are lame.

1:20:12🔗 Caller He was a great guy and most of the time, you know, I start off, but it's just when things get really intense and then I just happen to look down at my leg or something, I just think, you know, it just- I can't really figure out if it bothers him or not or if-

1:20:31🔗 Drew Listen, he will tell you, listen, he's telling you it doesn't, it doesn't. Okay? Come on.

1:20:37🔗 Caller Alrighty.

1:20:38🔗 Drew It's all good. He loves you. He likes how you look. He likes being physical and sexual with you. Don't spoil that by- There's got to be some self-esteem and issues in here also for you. Kind of focus on building your life and staying positive.

1:20:50🔗 Jack Osbourne Don't think too much.

1:20:51🔗 Drew Yeah, don't overthink stuff. Realize what he's saying he means. Trust him. 120.

1:20:55🔗 Hello, Juan. Drew, I have a question. My girlfriend is pregnant again, but she really had delivered a baby three months ago. She had a sex session and she recently found out she's pregnant again.

1:21:07🔗 Drew Juan, what are you doing, dude?

1:21:09🔗 Jack Osbourne Condom, buddy, condom.

1:21:10🔗 I like her bangs. Yeah, I know, man. That's a mistake I did. That was a mistake I did. I was too horny. Is he hot?

1:21:21🔗 Drew Condom.

1:21:22🔗 Caller I don't know.

1:21:22🔗 Drew Vote for Pedro. Okay. So what do you want to do?

1:21:27🔗 Caller I don't know. It would be safe for her to have the kid again or not because she already had two C-sections already.

1:21:34🔗 Drew It should be fine.

1:21:35🔗 Jack Osbourne She's in three months, like the allotted-

1:21:38🔗 Drew Well, they're not going to try a vaginal delivery. They're going to just do another C-section. It should be all right. It should be all right? I think so. I haven't seen obstetrician right away, but obviously-

1:21:48🔗 Jack Osbourne Congratulations.

1:21:49🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:21:49🔗 Drew It's your third baby?

1:21:51🔗 Caller Yeah. Actually, it's my fourth baby.

1:21:52🔗 Drew Oh my God.

1:21:53🔗 Caller Juan, what are you doing?

1:21:54🔗 Jack Osbourne Juan, you Casanova.

1:21:56🔗 Drew But Juan, how do you support- How do you support 420? How do you do that?

1:22:01🔗 Caller Look, man, I've been trying. Been working hard jobs, trying to go to school again.

1:22:06🔗 Drew Oh, Juan, God bless you. This is going to be-

1:22:08🔗 Jack Osbourne Is it with the same woman, the old fool?

1:22:10🔗 Caller Yeah. Yeah, all four with the same woman.

1:22:13🔗 Drew Are you guys married?

1:22:15🔗 Caller No, we're not. I like her bangs. But every time, we'll hook up to try to get married and we'll find out she's pregnant.

1:22:22🔗 Drew Well, get married anyway.

1:22:24🔗 Jack Osbourne Go down to the coal run, get married.

1:22:25🔗 Drew I'll tell you what, so the horse is out of the bar, the secret's out about the pregnancies, okay? And people will see you guys with three kids. Don't worry about this next pregnancy spoiling the wedding.

1:22:35🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, seriously.

1:22:36🔗 Drew People will be ashamed that she's pregnant. Can't get married, people might find out I'm pregnant.

1:22:43🔗 Caller Oh, excuse me, Drew, I have another question.

1:22:44🔗 Drew That's a little sad.

1:22:45🔗 Caller She also, for the past, also two pregnancies, she's been very, very sensitive in her vagina that I will barely stick my penis in and she'll start hurting and it will be sore for her.

1:22:55🔗 Caller He's a sledgehammer.

1:22:56🔗 Caller Does that be normal for her also or not?

1:22:58🔗 Drew Yeah, that can happen. Is that in the second trimester that happens or in the third trimester?

1:23:02🔗 Caller No, it's barely in the beginning.

1:23:04🔗 Drew And does that get better as the pregnancy goes on?

1:23:06🔗 Caller No, it gets worse, it's just like-

1:23:07🔗 Drew Oh, that's a shame. Well, they get a lot of swelling and irritation down there sometimes during pregnancy. Some women get more sexually aroused as the pregnancy progressed. And again, one of the many jokes God plays on humanity is that whole phenomenon. But some, it's also irritation. And you really make sure you get proper prenatal care. There can be vaginal infections. Vaginitis is a significant risk factor for preterm abortions or miscarriages. So 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1 is our number. Jack Osbourne is our guest. The show is Jack Osbourne, Adrenaline Junkie. Jack is now sober and thin and healthy and having a great time and helping you with your multiple children, multiple orgasms, whatever it might be.

1:23:48🔗 Jack Osbourne Prostitution.

1:23:49🔗 Drew Prostitution, sexual abuse. Let's see. Oh, you're in trouble with bad girls that only like bad guys. Joyce phone sex over going out and meeting guys. Interesting. Booty calls, leaving for the Coast Guard. We'll get to some of these calls after this. That's right. It's Loveline Jack Osbourne in here with us tonight. And hey Anderson, Jack was just chatting with me off the air here about one of our stranger calls which I know you have a drop from about the guy who stole a head, who broke into a mausoleum, twisted head off somebody and took it home for a decoration for a snake's aquarium. Yeah.

1:24:31🔗 Caller And the guy who's asking the question, I have no idea who this guy was.

1:24:34🔗 Drew I remember he was an Australian guy, he had some TV show briefly but I don't remember what his name was.

1:24:38🔗 Caller So the guess, we don't know who this is, sorry, but here's the...

1:24:40🔗 Drew You'll hear the voice, the chilling voice of this guy that stole a head.

1:24:44🔗 Caller Point, the pivotal point that you decided, I want me a head, a human head.

1:24:50🔗 Caller I was thinking of like a decoration for an aquarium.

1:24:54🔗 Drew There he is, that's him. Wow.

1:24:57🔗 Caller You know, Drew, one that you always forget that I really liked, and I just thought of it last week, was a guy that was beating off in the shower and he put a plunger down in the shower floor and he was putting it up his butt and going up and down, and then he slipped.

1:25:10🔗 Caller Oh!

1:25:13🔗 Drew And? That's how you kill yourself.

1:25:14🔗 Caller And yes, he was in a lot of pain and he called and you told him to go straight to the emergency room.

1:25:18🔗 Jack Osbourne But he was, he was actually just happened.

1:25:20🔗 Drew I don't remember that, I don't remember that. Maybe I didn't believe it as part of the deal.

1:25:22🔗 Caller Actually, no, it hadn't just happened. He was having recurring problems as a result of it. And we did believe it.

1:25:28🔗 Drew Oh, well, I like that one now that you brought it to my attention.

1:25:30🔗 Caller And the girl had had sex with her plant.

1:25:33🔗 Drew Her plant?

1:25:34🔗 Caller It was some kind of bulbous cactus, but it didn't have quills and she would take it. And then she had to plant it because it got too big. So she planted it out back and she was having sex with it in her yard. And she was afraid the neighbors were watching.

1:25:45🔗 Drew I was not here for that one. Maybe I made that up. It's amazing what does pass my plate, though, that I leave behind is just so much background noise. It's amazing. Let's see. This is Jessica 23. What's up there, Jessica?

1:25:59🔗 Caller Hi.

1:26:00🔗 Caller This is hard to explain.

1:26:02🔗 Caller Me and my boyfriend have been going out for a couple of years.

1:26:05🔗 Caller And we used to have sex all the time.

1:26:09🔗 Caller But the last two months or so, for some reason, we haven't had sex in two months because I can't get in the mood.

1:26:18🔗 Drew Are you on medication?

1:26:20🔗 Caller No, I'm not.

1:26:21🔗 Caller I'm not taking anything. I rarely drink.

1:26:23🔗 Caller I'm a smoker, but I've been smoking for nine years.

1:26:26🔗 Drew And is there anything else? You're getting depressed. Would you be pregnant? Is there anything in the relationship going on?

1:26:31🔗 Caller Do you do drugs?

1:26:32🔗 Caller No, I don't do drugs. I'm actually a security guard.

1:26:36🔗 Drew Are you depressed?

1:26:38🔗 Caller No, not that I'm aware of.

1:26:39🔗 Drew Something going on in the relationship?

1:26:42🔗 Caller No.

1:26:43🔗 Caller I'm a gypsy.

1:26:44🔗 Caller Nothing?

1:26:47🔗 Caller He kisses my neck and it feels like he's tickling me.

1:26:49🔗 Caller I don't get aroused.

1:26:52🔗 Drew Well, you're shut down sexually. I get that. You might want to have a medical evaluation because very often, any kind of medical problem can shut you down sexually, particularly women. Medication is the most common reason for that. But beyond that, it means there's something wrong with the relationship, or you're depressed emotionally for you.

1:27:08🔗 Caller Yeah.

1:27:09🔗 Caller He's never cheated on me.

1:27:10🔗 Caller He's never lied to me.

1:27:12🔗 Caller We're happy.

1:27:12🔗 Caller We're talking about getting married.

1:27:14🔗 Drew Yeah. Maybe that's what's freaking you out. Maybe marriage means something bad.

1:27:19🔗 Caller Actually, I was kind of happy about it when he proposed to me. You know.

1:27:24🔗 Drew Do you come from a broken family?

1:27:28🔗 Caller You know, my mom's kind of temperamental, but not really.

1:27:31🔗 Drew There was no divorce in your family? No. Then again, Jessica, you've got to kind of figure this out. There's something going on here that, in fact, when people have a drop in the sex drive, that is one of the more sensitive...

1:27:43🔗 Caller I know that.

1:27:43🔗 Caller I understand that. I mean, you know, I've seen my friends that are depressed and have that problem, but...

1:27:49🔗 Drew No, I'm not just talking about depression. It's a good sign of something going on in the relationship. That is a very, very... That's the first place that sort of is the most sensitive place for evidence of trouble. Whether it's something that you're fearful of being too intimate or fearful of what... You know, I don't like how he is on some level. Maybe you've sort of fallen out of love or wound down. Maybe the prospect of marriage is freaking you out. Something you've got to get honest about is affecting how you feel about this person and impairing your ability to feel sexual. I don't know what it is. You know, it's hard. We can turn over the car and say maybe it's something with him, maybe it's something with you. I don't know.

1:28:22🔗 Jack Osbourne Maybe you're just not horny.

1:28:24🔗 Drew Well, all of a sudden, maybe you're just not into this guy. Even in your 20, early 20s, you may have a couple of years. Maybe this thing's sort of winding down. That definitely happens all the time. Brittany 16.

1:28:33🔗 Caller Hello?

1:28:34🔗 Drew What's up, Brittany?

1:28:35🔗 Caller Hi.

1:28:35🔗 Caller Well, like, it's weird.

1:28:39🔗 Caller I like to talk on the phone a whole bunch, and I'm into not meeting guys, but just talking to them on the phone, and trying to build a relationship. And I'm just not working on trying to meet anybody in real life, and I wonder, is that weird? I know that's weird, but.

1:29:01🔗 Drew It's sort of protection, isn't it?

1:29:03🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, that's very much, it's just, it's shy, and.

1:29:05🔗 Drew It's fantasy, and you're not going out and meeting these guys, you're not telling them who you are or where you are, thank God, and don't ever do that. It's just fantasy, that's fine.

1:29:13🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah, and they don't physically get the opportunity to judge you, anyway. I mean, you probably just.

1:29:18🔗 Drew People do this on the internet all the time.

1:29:20🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

1:29:21🔗 Caller Yeah, well, it's okay, it's not like gonna.

1:29:24🔗 Jack Osbourne I mean, it might start, you might start depending upon it, and that's all.

1:29:27🔗 Drew Are you having phone sex with these guys?

1:29:29🔗 Caller Yeah. And see, like, I will go out and have sex with other guys, too, though, see? And, like, I just.

1:29:35🔗 Drew You will? You will? You will or you won't? You're going out and having sex with the other guys, too?

1:29:41🔗 Caller Like, other guys that I dated, too.

1:29:45🔗 Caller Like, I haven't just dated over the phone, but.

1:29:48🔗 Jack Osbourne There's no such thing as dating over the phone, darling.

1:29:50🔗 Caller Oh, well, dear, sorry.

1:29:52🔗 Drew How many guys have you had sex with?

1:29:54🔗 Caller Four.

1:29:56🔗 Drew You've been moving along a little fast for 16, don't you think?

1:29:59🔗 Caller I know, I guess.

1:30:02🔗 Drew Maybe it's time to just have a roll.

1:30:03🔗 Jack Osbourne When did you first start having sex?

1:30:06🔗 Caller When I was 13.

1:30:07🔗 Drew Oh, how old was that guy?

1:30:09🔗 Caller 19.

1:30:10🔗 Caller I always dated older guys.

1:30:11🔗 Drew All right, well, that is sexual abuse, Brittany. Yeah. So you were sexually abused at 13. And when that happens, that can kind of send you on a little bit of momentum. Where you're looking for these guys that reenact these. When you're 19, you will absolutely retch when you think about your peers having sex with a 13 year old. He is a criminal, Brittany. Do you understand that?

1:30:31🔗 Caller Yeah, I guess.

1:30:32🔗 Drew All right, so you've been with criminals. Are you with older age guys now? Yeah. Illegal. Brittany, something very wrong here.

1:30:41🔗 Jack Osbourne How old are the guys she's talking to, though?

1:30:44🔗 Drew God only knows. Who knows what they say they are as opposed to what they actually are. Brittany, please get some help. In each one of these situations, they rape and sexual abuse. You've got to get help. The laws are the way they are to protect you, not to protect the guys, because believe me, when you're 24 or 19 and you think about your peers being with a 16-year-old, you'll be shocked at who those guys are. They are sick. All right, take it easy. Get some help with this. It's Loveline, and we'll be right back. Jack keeps telling me uplifting stories, so I leave with a great lofty sense of spirit and hope for humanity.

1:31:35🔗 Jack Osbourne Yes, there is hope.

1:31:37🔗 Drew Talking about Gary Glitter?

1:31:38🔗 Jack Osbourne Yeah.

1:31:38🔗 Drew Nice, nice. Jack Osbourne, thank you for coming, Jack.

1:31:41🔗 Jack Osbourne We really appreciate it.

1:31:43🔗 Drew The show is Jack Osbourne, Adrenaline Junkie, See Him Scale, some of the highest mountains in Yosemite, El Campetan particularly. So, and tomorrow we've got The B-Real from Cypress Hill, we've got David Alan Greer next week, so this is on behalf of Jack Osbourne, Dr. Drew's saying good night and stay well. What do they look like?

1:32:04🔗 Caller Pomegranate seeds.

1:32:08🔗 Drew Pomegranate seeds.

1:32:09🔗 Caller Sounds like waltz.

1:32:12🔗 This has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.

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