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Voiceover
Yeah, it's Loveline. Adam, Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist. Lisa Edelstein is here tonight.
1:34🔗
Adam
She's from House. Big hit on Fox, Tuesday nights, nine o'clock. And Drew, it's a show about medicine, so I'm assuming...
1:43🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Do you really? You don't watch them? This one's really entertaining because the lead guy gets to say all kinds of mean things to his patients.
1:53🔗
Adam
He just had... I just saw in the spot during the commercial of a football game where a guy collapses. He had to yell for cleanup.
2:00🔗
Oh, fine.
2:19🔗
Drew
Hey, lovely, you know, vomiting, diarrhea. It's a good thing. It's a good time. It's washed out.
2:36🔗
Drew
But. It reminded me. It was crazy enough. Today, I was having a flashback to a car trip Adam and I took in Philadelphia.
2:45🔗
Adam
We drove from Philadelphia to Maryland. Maryland. Yeah. Oh, then still still unable to get a clear story on who Chevy Chase is and what Chevy Chase Maryland is and who was Chevy Chase. And people are like, yeah, he was on. He played Flash. No, no, there's a guy named Chevy Chase. And there's a bunch of streets named Chevy Chase. And there's a Chevy Chase Maryland. And we can't get a story on who who the original Chevy Chase was. It does Chevy Chase, the actor. Did he get named after the great Chevy Chase who settled Maryland?
3:23🔗
Drew
Nearly as important to me as the experience I had lying desperately on the back of that car, wanting to wretch with a fever while Adam and the driver carried on about meatball sandwiches or food.
3:43🔗
Lisa Edelstein
I threw up once on the way to camp when I was seven years old and somebody asked me if it was chunky. And after that, I couldn't.
3:52🔗
Adam
Did you? You know, I'm trying to think, see, Drew. Well, we don't want to talk about it anymore.
3:58🔗
But OK, well, let's talk about diarrhea.
4:11🔗
Drew
Well, this year, China flu. Czar preoccupations with the Czar, which has had one documented case of human to human transmission.
4:28🔗
Drew
They're called neuraminidase inhibitors and they block the viral release from the cell, basically, because virus has to go out and other cells infect them and reproduce. If you stay stuck to the cell you started with, you can't go out and reproduce.
4:42🔗
Drew
No, it prevents the virus from reproducing. So during the first 48 hours of viral infection, if you catch it in time, right? If you catch it, then you can block the growth and therefore block the syndrome.
4:53🔗
Adam
Here's what I've realized. This is how people work, which is if you put people are supposed to be sort of fighting for their lives on a daily basis. I mean, trying to get enough food to sustain themselves for another day, being chased by animals and that kind of stuff. When you eliminate all that aspect of life and just have a person sit around an air-conditioned house with a cupboard filled with dried food and a refrigerator filled with milk and eggs, they start obsessing on other things because there's that sort of human drive to survive, except for we've eliminated it, and it now gets replaced by talking about pit bull attacks and dirty bombs. That's I think when you take a human being and you remove all of the elements of danger, struggle and survivor, then you get neurotic. Yeah. That's what you get. That's why the Jews are neurotic and the blacks aren't. Because they're still dodging gunfire and trying to get something to eat. The Jews got all worked out. That's why they think they have a tumor every 20 seconds. Think about it, Drew. Jews, they're comfortable, they're cool, they got stuff worked out.
6:06🔗
Adam
Well, it is true. It is true. Once in a while, Hitler pops up, but I'm saying in general, people who are living sort of hand to mouth in Africa, they're not neurotic. They can't afford to be neurotic.
6:19🔗
Drew
Also, the real thing is we have erased genuine medical problems from the face of America. People don't know the difference between a real problem and not a real problem.
6:28🔗
Lisa Edelstein
It's true. I was traveling in India. I was just telling Dr. Drew I was traveling in India and I was having I had lunch with my driver's family. It was 28 people living in a very small room and five of them had typhoid.
6:41🔗
Adam
Yeah. Pass the chutney, baby. Yeah. And that's the thing. So what do we start? What do we start assessing on? Killer mold and allergies that don't exist. You know, this country has more people with more food allergies that don't exist. How come magically the poor Mexicans are waiting over at the Home Depot to jump in the back of the back? Do they have any food allergies? Oh, no, I don't do. No, I can't eat. I can only eat the flour tortillas. I cannot eat the corn ones.
7:10🔗
Adam
Right. They don't. Poor people magically have no food allergies. They never go anywhere. And like, and they're like, is there dairy product in that? Is there flour? I have a wheat allergy. How come when you're poor, you don't get to have allergies? Why? Because you make them up when you're rich. That's what you do. And you love, and those people, and, and oh, they're, oh, they're in, they're, they're all the environmental allergies with the carpet and the paint. And it's only poor people have the, only rich people have this. Poor people magically, they're not allergic to their sofa. They'll sleep on anything at any time. I know we all have that component.
7:46🔗
Lisa Edelstein
But they're, I mean, there are poor people who are living in such poor conditions, such foul conditions. But those who would get sick, they get actually, and also those are the areas where the people are the least educated and don't realize they're being poisoned, toxically poisoned.
8:00🔗
Adam
They drink, yeah, well, they drink water that's contaminated, but they're not allergic to the paint on the wall of the house that has no paint on it, by the way.
8:08🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Or the, the gas station that, that's on that block in that area, like the gas is leaking into the water system. There's all kinds of problems that go on.
8:15🔗
Drew
Go to a county, go to a county hospital, you don't see that kind of thing. What you see is tens of thousands of people with genuine medical problems because they get them.
8:34🔗
Adam
Yeah, you'd be the consultant on house. You know, Drew doesn't watch medical shows because he-
8:48🔗
Drew
But things are so over- because you're in it. If you were in it, if you were my daughter, I'd love it too. But things are so over dramatized.
8:55🔗
How dare you, Drew? It's a good show.
8:56🔗
Drew
It is a great show. It is a great show. But when someone- How do you know it's a great show?
9:02🔗
I heard a lot about it and I watched it.
9:03🔗
Drew
But when the doctor says, the patient is having a cardiac arrest, I'm like, okay, I guess her child. It's like he's coding, let's go. It's just as if it's your job. You're not announcing things.
9:24🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Is it not this week though? Because right now it's the World Series, baseball, whole situation.
9:30🔗
Adam
Sure, we got to play 700 games a year. The greatest thing that happened this weekend is that the Red Sox got eliminated. So I don't have to go through that at the office for another... That stretches out for months.
9:47🔗
Adam
Now, the Yankees don't work with enough of them, not quite as obnoxious as the Red Sox people.
9:55🔗
Lisa Edelstein
That the Yankees people are less obnoxious than the Red Sox. Well, yeah, the Red Sox people were desperate after all those years. And then it was a miracle, and then it was a whole thing. They brought God into the whole thing.
10:05🔗
Adam
The Yankees fans have a little been there, done that. Also greater in numbers, but not obnoxious, not abrasive.
10:18🔗
Drew
By the way, did you notice the guys like Sheffield when you see them out in the field, they're skinny guys now?
10:33🔗
Adam
I don't think that's definitive yet. We'll wait and see. Bonds seem to have hit a few dinners. Sierra?
10:40🔗
Yes.
10:44🔗
Caller
Well, me and my husband have been married for about eight years and we've been together for nine. About the last probably like five years, I've got a problem with sex drive, I guess.
11:19🔗
Huh?
11:25🔗
Drew
Listen, we're trying to figure out why you have a particular biological problem. It may or may not have a psychological component to it. What happened?
11:36🔗
Drew
To be accused on two children and to lose them, that's a little more than an accusation.
11:42🔗
Caller
I was accused of child abuse on one of them. While I was fighting to get him back, we got pregnant with the second one. Because the case was still on-going, they took him to jail.
11:55🔗
Adam
GIO Are you retarded? You're trying to wrestle one of your kids back from court and you get knocked up during that period of time?
12:08🔗
Adam
GIO Okay, listen all you idiots. Would you stop populating the world with F'd up people so we can get on with our lives? I'm just tired of it. I'm tired that there's no connection between people like Sierra crapping out kids that get thrown through the system and us having to put alarms on everything and double bolt everything at night.
12:37🔗
Caller
Well, what had happened with my son, I had asked a family member to hold him while I went to the restroom. She dropped him. He ended up with a hairline fracture on his head and took him to the doctor. They found it. They called social services, a whole nine yards. He was about five months old. I got pregnant with my second child during this whole thing going on. I was probably pregnant when it happened and didn't know yet.
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Right.
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Adam
We thought to hold on a second try. I know I've been wrong about this almost every time I just, you know, we're talking about it with Lisa earlier. I just, I just feel in my heart of hearts, Texas, two kids in the system court system abuse. Didn't know she was pregnant. Well, Sarah, Jewish, right?
13:45🔗
Adam
I can pick up a cat like reflexes and instincts and I've been wrong 50 straight times, 50 times in a row, Drew. How do you know? Wow. Wow. And I thought you could stereotype, but I guess you can't. I guess you just can't. Wow. I was way off. Sorry. So now how did the other kid get into the system?
14:07🔗
Caller
The case was still open. It was still in court. So when he was born, when the second child was born, they took him straight from the hospital. He never came home.
14:19🔗
Caller
So we wait, we waited about five years, got pregnant with number three. Oh my gosh. We have him.
14:38🔗
Drew
And by the way, if you, anyone listening wonders why when we ask about adoption histories and go, oh, you're over three months in and then you got to, this is the circumstance in which kids get adopted out of five months of age. All right.
15:01🔗
Lisa Edelstein
That's what my grandmother said. Yeah, pretty much. Your milk doesn't really go bad.
15:10🔗
Lisa Edelstein
It's impossible for your milk to go bad. It's not like you haven't refrigerated it.
15:13🔗
Caller
Yeah, well, it just it's it's soured really bad. One day it looked like milk. The next day it looked like clear and it stank.
15:27🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Yeah, it changes its content. Like at the beginning it's giving one thing and then it gives another after.
16:01🔗
Caller
I've been on this since the since baby number three was about a month old. I got put on it directly. I don't want anymore. I don't want any more kids.
16:34🔗
Drew
Yes. To go from hypersexual to hyposexual is characteristic of having been sexually abused. So being shut down sexually in the face of chaos, in the face of abandonment and loss, all that would be anticipated.
16:47🔗
Adam
All right. And again, when kids get sexually abused and stuff like that, we don't want to keep an eye on them, give them a little education, give them a little help. Just give them a little help. I don't even crap out three kids and put two in the system.
17:03🔗
Drew
She gets some mental health services. I mean, which I imagine she's been getting through social services. Yeah. The point is her libido should be the least of our concerns right now. There's so many bigger issues here. Yeah. And yes, the birth control pill, the more estrogenized pills can sometimes help with your libido. Sometimes a triphasic and some people they find more libido.
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Hello?
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I don't know.
17:33🔗
Maybe it's depression. I don't know.
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Not necessarily depression. I just say two things before I say anything. Adam Carolla, you rock. I watched your show. I watched Loveline back in the day when it was on television. Dr. Drew, I respect your opinion like no other more so than my psychologist when I was younger, which says a lot.
18:02🔗
My question is, I live with my boyfriend right now in Huntington Beach, George County. And I don't know, I work in a bar where single men are a presbyter and you know, I go home every night.
18:26🔗
I go home horny for men and sometimes I wonder if it's for him or wonder if it's for other people. I'm attracted to so many different men. I'm attracted to women. I'm attracted to one or two different women, you know, and it's very confusing right now.
18:51🔗
Sometimes. He starts to drink and he can get mean or if I go home and I've been drinking.
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He's not drunk anymore. My dad is actually.
19:17🔗
My dad was actually an alcohol and heroin addict and my mom actually just recently died of cancer and my boyfriend was a big participant in the recovery of a relationship that I didn't know.
19:31🔗
Drew
Here's the deal, Katie, all this chaos you've got in your relationships are going to continue until you deal with your own alcoholism. And I know people are going to say, you're jumping to that? Yes, that's the overarching situation here. And that all the acting out, all the chaos in your relationships, all the codependency and enmeshments and use of sexuality as a way of sort of regulating feelings, that's all the trauma of being in an alcoholic addict family and the gene of alcoholism. If you really want to get better, go to 12 Step Made and get a sponsor and start doing this.
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Well, honestly, I am not, yeah.
20:05🔗
Adam
Well. Yeah, okay. Here's the thing, if you're screwed up and you're a female and you're hot, you are essentially a... A target. Well, you're a target, but you're also sort of dangerous to yourself. It's essentially like taking a guy who's violent and impulsive and whatever and saying, look, here's a gun, here's some protective clothing. No one can hurt you. You can hurt... And just sort of tell him, but don't use it in anger. Like take care of it. You know, like if you're hot and you're 21 and your dad was a junkie and people are after you sexually and you work at a bar telling, saying like, hey honey, just stay on the straight and narrow. It's temptation every single night.
20:50🔗
Drew
Like an obese person living in the Willy Wonka chocolate factory and saying, just take it easy. Take it easy. Right.
20:58🔗
Lisa Edelstein
The hard part is, is that it's really hard to get someone to actually stop that behavior until they've so bottomed out on it. That's correct. That, so even just telling her that is just...
21:15🔗
Drew
I was thinking about that with her, and she's had a therapist, I think she said. And again, I'm just thinking of ways that she can help herself. And Al-Anon is a good idea, too. All right.
21:24🔗
No, Adam, when I was 13, I went to Al-Anon for my father. When I was 15, I got sober for the first time for myself. And then when I was 17, I had relapsed when I was 16. I got sober the second time by myself. I moved out when I was 14, OK? I got sober for two years.
21:55🔗
Lisa Edelstein
A lot of times all those all those ins and outs of the program are just you just kind of first, you might even be educating yourself on how to get high better. But ultimately, you're you're going to.
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Not so much of anything. I've educated myself on not how to get high. I never took the needle. I never went back to what I went into the program for. But you're still using methamphetamine.
22:15🔗
Drew
But you're still using and it still hits the medial forebrain bundle, which is where the disease of autism and addiction takes place. And until you are completely sober, completely abstinent, active in a program with a sponsor, this is going to keep evolving. Things are going to start.
22:33🔗
No, I do. He's and that's the thing is that he's not abusive. If he doesn't hit me, if anything, he is three years older than I am. He verbally abuses me probably once every three months.
22:47🔗
Drew
All right. I'm going to pretend you're not an alcoholic and you don't work in a bar. Katie, you're 21. People in their 20s for each other like crap. It's tough to have a monogamous relationship. This one is not likely to last. Go out, date. You're already saying you're going to do that. Don't get into any chaos with this guy because God knows what he'll do. Break it off and then start dating again.
23:06🔗
Adam
All right. That's a good enough place to break. Lisa Edelstein is here tonight from House Tuesday Nights, 9 o'clock, Drew's new favorite show, Dr. Lisa Cuddy.
23:26🔗
Caller
Doctor, you understand, you can't play God anymore. But I hold myself responsible for every. We've got to get over it.
23:35🔗
Adam
There used to be a lot of people slapping. I missed a time when people would slap someone in the face, tell them to get hold of themselves. They do it to Nick. That's about the only time you could hit a chick too. She was getting out of control.
23:47🔗
Adam
By the way, does that work? I think if my wife was spinning out and I whacked her, she just turned whatever, she turned whatever aggression she was coming out with, just turn it on me. Right?
24:11🔗
Your call will be answered in the order it seems interesting.
24:18🔗
Adam
Want to dress up your sex life? Visit durex.com. There's sex and then there's Durex. Yeah, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Nats, Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Lisa Edelstein is here. Or do I go Stein?
24:51🔗
Laughing time is over.
24:57🔗
Adam
Yeah, impressive body of work. Tuesday Nights. She is on a little show called House, Fox, Nine O'Clock, Drew's new favorite show. And doing nicely. Is this the second season or was it a replacement last season?
25:18🔗
Adam
I'm all over the road on the seasons. I used to be able to figure them out and then I started getting burned because shows were replacement shows that I thought were running full season.
25:27🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Yeah, we started really late because they didn't start us at all till after baseball last year. So we started in November.
25:39🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Sometimes it can be pretty long. For Hugh, it's the worst. For me, it's not so bad.
25:53🔗
Yes.
25:55🔗
Yes.
25:58🔗
My boyfriend that won't maintain an erection during sex ever. We've been having sex for like three months. I mean, it comes back, but like it goes away and comes back, goes away and comes back.
26:11🔗
Adam
Well, you say you say won't instead of can't. It may just be semantics, but it sounds like you're blaming him a little too.
26:21🔗
It's not, you know, honestly, he's the first guy that I've ever actually had an orgasm during sex with and I don't know if that makes a difference, but I mean, it's the best sex I've ever had.
26:47🔗
He was pretty bad.
26:53🔗
No, I don't smoke weed.
26:54🔗
Adam
Okay. So this guy's the best sex you've ever had except for he doesn't have an erection half the time.
27:00🔗
Yeah.
27:04🔗
It varies sometimes for like 20, 25 minutes. One time we had sex for almost an hour.
27:14🔗
He just like kind of pinches it, I guess, and puts it back in.
27:20🔗
He's already getting just a couple of minutes, like not even a minute really.
27:25🔗
Yeah, no, no, no.
27:28🔗
A couple of times that we have used a condom, it's come off inside me.
27:38🔗
We have sex at least once a day.
27:46🔗
No.
27:50🔗
Okay.
27:57🔗
Kind of, you can tell it is, like-
27:58🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Like do you accuse him of having his, him going soft the way you did when you started this conversation?
28:06🔗
Do what now?
28:20🔗
Yeah. It's a really weird situation about us getting together because I was going to get married and broke off my engagement with him.
28:31🔗
No. I don't work.
28:36🔗
How did it happen that we got together? Yeah. Well, he was just a friend of some of my guy friends that I hang out with and all my guy friends always used to hit on me and stuff. But I was always like, I'm not leaving my boyfriend because we've been together for almost four years.
28:52🔗
I met this guy and it was like instantaneous. And so I ended up living with him. He don't like Beyonce. So I broke up with him.
29:04🔗
He's an electrician.
29:06🔗
Adam
And the part, though, where you sort of decide that if I dump this other person, we're going to be together, is sort of cheating. I mean, did you guys work it out? I mean, you're not going to cheat on your fiancee, but you just found another guy when you're engaged.
29:23🔗
Adam
And decided and knew that this guy felt the same way about you when we're ready to. You knew you knew everything was in order. You had a new job lined up before you quit your old job. You didn't just fill out an application and hope that they hired you.
29:38🔗
Yeah.
29:39🔗
That's exactly what my fiance said to you. Basically. Yeah. All right. We had a child together, so we still.
29:46🔗
Yeah, I know.
29:49🔗
Adam
And you're taking care of the kid now. Hold on. Arkansas married. Get out of wedlock. Impulsively dumps the fiance to be with the electrician. You've got to be Jewish. Am I right?
30:04🔗
Oh, no.
30:25🔗
Adam
It's like the opposite. Wow. But here's the important thing. You cannot stereotype and you can't judge. It's impossible. Everyone is exactly the same case in point. Case in point, Samantha, has all the characteristics of a Jew. I think one would know. And yet, yet not Jewish. That's why that's how come I've learned you can never judge ever. It's impossible. There's no such thing as knowing anything about anybody before they do it. We're all different. Everyone is exactly true as a surgeon. When you open somebody up, you never know what you're going to find. Three lungs, no heart, five hearts and no lungs. We're all totally different. You'll never know. You can. That's why you can't judge.
31:17🔗
Adam
All different. That's why we need it. We need a drill. We need a special drill bit for every person on the planet because we're all so different. We could just never, ever judge. All right, Samantha. So this sounds like a delightful situation. Could you not get pregnant by this guy, please?
31:34🔗
Yeah, I'm working real hard on that.
31:37🔗
I don't have birth control. It's awesome. Let me tell you.
31:45🔗
We have just been in agreement between the two of us. So he basically, he watches them at night, two nights a week. And then he, on his days off from work, he gets to spend that day with them. Oh, that's good.
32:01🔗
Yeah. When I have a couple of night classes, I actually have to take. So he watches in those two nights.
32:06🔗
Adam
All right. That's good. That's got to be comfortable when he comes and picks the kid up, the electrician shows up at the door. Yeah.
32:12🔗
Especially when he's wearing his clothes. I'm just kidding.
32:15🔗
Adam
All right, baby. Have fun. See the kid in rehab. I just always hope it's a girl so we can get a stripper out of the equation. I mean, when it's a guy, we just get a violent criminal. Girl, hey. Just throw in the porn hopper. Awesome. Yeah. But the guy. But then but then they become breed breeders and hosts, you know, and they have more trouble. Yeah. Yeah.
32:52🔗
Lisa Edelstein
OK. I'm bisexual and I've had a boyfriend for a long time. So I hooked up with his girl cousin and I got STD.
33:22🔗
Adam
For those. This is Drew's favorite joke, by the way. For those of you who don't know what the bot mitzvah is, it's when the young Jewish girl becomes a man. Who are you guys kidding with that thing at a 13? You guys got to raise that to 28.
33:58🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Yeah. She had touched herself and then had touched me and it like got on in my vagina.
34:09🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Yeah, because I don't know. Then I passed it on to him and he's telling me that he has gonorrhea and that he hasn't with anyone else and he's blaming it on me.
34:22🔗
Lisa Edelstein
How was it diagnosed? Well, I went to the doctor and I went to the gynecologist and she wiped me with a cotton like thing and said that I had gonorrhea.
34:41🔗
Drew
She said you have chlamydia or you have some sort of STD but she wouldn't use the word gonorrhea.
35:18🔗
Drew
People, when they use a specific disease state of specific bacterium like nyseria gonorrhea, that means somebody tested for it and grew it. And that takes a while. Usually what they do is they say, you've got an STD, I see evidence of it. You're gonna give it a shot.
35:36🔗
Lisa Edelstein
I liked that. So did she tell you she had gonorrhea or did your boyfriend tell you?
35:39🔗
Drew
And by the way, gonorrhea you're not gonna get up by the touching of the finger all of a sudden. You can get the other ones, some other ones you can get that way, but you're not gonna get gonorrhea in your life.
35:46🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Isn't there gonorrhea of the mouth that goes around now? Like over the throat?
36:12🔗
Lisa Edelstein
But I don't know if it's like I really got it from him or not. I don't know if he's being truthful about him.
36:20🔗
Drew
We're just making a bigger assessment here, the chaos that you're in. What's going on with you? You've got what's called a personality disorder, at least at this stage of your life, and as part of that is an eating disorder. In the chaos, have you been to psychiatric hospitals before?
36:32🔗
Lisa Edelstein
What? No. I've not been in the psych ward, but I was in treatment for the eating disorder.
36:38🔗
Drew
Okay, so that you know is a chronic condition, and why aren't you still in treatment for that?
36:46🔗
Adam
She's licked it, Drew. The good ironic slogan, lick eating disorder. I like the generic, hey, once in a while I was driving behind a cop car on the way in the night, and it was just like, stop senior abuse. But that's it. That's all you guys come up with. Stop senior abuse. Is there some-
37:07🔗
Adam
Yeah, like no ass, Sherlock. But you guys can't do any better than that. How many of those bumper stickers have stopped senior abuse? You know what I mean? Right. You know, I was I was driving over.
37:21🔗
Adam
Driving over to my grandmother's house to kick the ass out of her. I got behind a street sweeper that had the end and senior abuse on it. It made me do some soul searching. I went home and beat the crap out of my kids instead. Yeah, we got to work on that in this city.
37:41🔗
Drew
That part of all the sexual stuff is still symptomatic of the kinds of things that were associated with your eating disorder.
37:59🔗
Adam
It'll be funny to have one in Mexico that said to end senior abuse. Like a sadite, sadite. I just realized we must have some sort of slush fund of extra money that we don't know what to do with. So we come up with stuff like saying no to drugs and all that kind of stuff. I also had that thing happen tonight, which drives me berserk. Is a highway patrolman doing 51 all the way, all the way on the 101, like people scared to pass. You know, here's the whole thing about. Listen, if there's that we have cops listening to the show.
38:33🔗
Adam
Would you please do not do that, that that mental game where you're driving 53. And here's here's the thing about the freeways out here. They go from 55 to 65 back to 55 back this. I've lived here my entire life. I could not tell you the stretches that are 65 versus the ones that are 55. And so when the cop is doing 53, it freaks you out. You don't want to pass them. And here in LA and now in other cities, I hear it's not such a big deal. But here we're totally freaked out. Here's the thing about cop cars. They should be made to either go over 70 or under 30. There should be no intermediate zone where they can just do that 53 thing. And it's like, it's like, you know what they become? They become the pace car at the Indy 500. Just a whole stack of people. And then when they pull off an off ramp, it's like that's when the race begins. That's how it works. They become a pace car. People scared to pass.
39:34🔗
Adam
Cudi is a good one though. Yeah. House, everyone. Tuesday nights, 9 o'clock. Fox, Drew's new favorite show. Take a quick break. Be right back after this.
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40:39🔗
Adam
I'm amazed. I think it's one of these blue state things, you know, like when you hear about biggest sport in the world, NASCAR, and you're like, what? And then it's like, yeah, Renee Zellweger spoke up with Kenny Chesney.
40:57🔗
Adam
Kenny Chesney? Biggest act in the world. You know, it's like, all right. I feel, I feel, I feel that way with, with cable TV or satellite TV. Like, like, you know, you know, if you were to ask me five years ago, oh, the networks aren't going to exist five years from now. It's going to be all, everyone's used to be watching The Sopranos on HBO or watching soft, softcore porn on stars or something. Like, what networks? Yeah, but, but now here comes, you know, Desperate Housewives and House and all the, you know, the CSIs and all this stuff. I mean, they've, they're all, it seemed like, oh, who's going to watch, who's going to watch this? Well, they're back or maybe they never went away, but they seem to have even gained some ground or something.
41:44🔗
Lisa Edelstein
It's going to get really interesting now with TiVo because the way things are going, the days of commercial television are going to come, it's all going to be product placement and be like, can I pass you this cup of Nescafe? It's really delicious and then move on with the scene.
41:58🔗
Adam
I don't know, I don't know how it works either. Like when you're HBO and you're going to do Troy or Rome, you're doing Rome, you know, and it's like, we took an entire town in Tuscany and leveled it to the ground and we built the sets the likes of which no one has ever seen. And it's like, why?
42:19🔗
Adam
You just show Ski Patrol again, would you? That's like if I ran HBO, I'd be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. I know I've seen sketches and budgets. No, we're not going to do any of that. You think it's going to get anyone to buy it? Just, just, we'll rerun something. What's that Troy? There's a movie that takes place in Rome. Show that again.
42:48🔗
Adam
Maybe Greece. But the point is, find a movie that people already like and just run it a second time. I couldn't imagine greenlining a mini-series, Gladiator, a mini-series that costs $100 million to make. I don't know how it works. Do more people buy, sign up for HBO hearing about this?
43:08🔗
Lisa Edelstein
They're paying for the, they're also buying the DVDs and renting the DVDs of the things that HBO makes. It's great, because HBO actually is incredibly creative and has amazing projects, really well written.
43:21🔗
Adam
It is great, but if I didn't need to attract advertisers, I would get very lazy, very lazy.
43:30🔗
Adam
Yes, yes I would. And like I said, I just assume, like I said, it's one of those blue state things where it's like, yeah, everyone you know has satellite, and they all just watch satellite television. No, no, no, no, no, no.
43:45🔗
Adam
All right. Let's talk to, but like the American automakers were forced to do a few years back with all the Japanese coming in, you gotta step it up.
43:57🔗
Adam
You gotta get it together. You can't just show, the Brady Bunch, not gonna cut it. Gilligan's Island, not gonna cut it. When people could switch over and go watch Curb Your Enthusiasm or The Sopranos.
44:15🔗
Adam
No, no, I'm saying, I'm using them as a network example, a non-paper example where that's what you have to step it up.
44:24🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Network has definitely stepped it up these last few years because of that more competition.
44:38🔗
I just got a question for Drew. Recently, doctors found some spots in my lungs on an x-ray.
44:46🔗
And I'm 28, never smoked in my life. I have a biopsy coming up a week from tomorrow.
44:54🔗
I do not know exactly where.
44:57🔗
I don't think I'm the best doctor around, honestly.
45:01🔗
No, just one side. There's like a couple of spots. Okay. They recently tested my blood for, I don't know the exact technical name, but the generic term I guess is like valley fever.
45:18🔗
That's what it was.
45:19🔗
Drew
Right. It could be coxie. It could be TB. It could be even some called histoplasmosis. There's a lot of little things.
45:32🔗
Actually, I was set up to have gastric bypass surgery.
45:37🔗
And they were doing the pre-op work and they found it.
45:40🔗
Drew
Isolated solitary pulmonary nodules usually don't end up being too much, especially at your age group. But interestingly, I just did a special tonight with Lance Armstrong where we were looking at his x-rays and he had, he was peppered with stuff all over his lung and that was ticicular cancer. That's different.
46:03🔗
Well, I've lost weight because I had to lose it for the surgery and right now I'm about 420.
46:11🔗
I've already lost what they wanted me to lose.
46:14🔗
I've lost 50.
46:18🔗
I'm 6'1.
46:24🔗
Adam
I'll tell you what I'd do if I was one of these gastric bypass surgeries. I'd be like, look, we're gonna need you to lose some weight before we can get you up on the gurney here and then like lose 60 pounds and come back and I'd go, all right, it's good. You're 350. We really need you to lose a couple more pounds before we do the procedure on you.
46:39🔗
Adam
Eventually I'd just get him down to about 175 and then tell him. And I would still do it. Yeah. You thought I was going a different direction with that, but no, I would still do it.
46:49🔗
Drew
There would actually be a rationale to that because people usually gain the back out of those circumstances.
46:53🔗
Adam
Right. Here's what I'm starting to think. We got to take a break. We're starting to think about with this surgery because I've had a friend or two do it. Just do it. Yeah. If I had a kid who was 350 pounds and he was 19 years old, let's say just do it. Don't be battling your whole life and doing damage to your heart and whatever pulmonary system.
47:11🔗
Lisa Edelstein
But you have to do it and be committed to it. I mean, I have one friend who did it very successfully and really means it and has worked very hard at kind of dealing with her eating disorder and I have another, I know another person who did it and didn't really feel like ever changing her diet.
47:36🔗
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47:37🔗
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47:42🔗
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47:46🔗
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48:21🔗
Adam
From House, Fox, Tuesday nights, nine o'clock. We're just talking about that big earthquake in, where was it?
48:29🔗
Adam
Pakistan and the destruction. But people people don't realize that the materials they use for building in other parts of the world are just like tailor-made, underhanded softballs for earthquakes.
48:46🔗
Drew
So every time you complain about the building inspectors, we should tell you to shut up because these guys are protecting us against.
48:55🔗
Adam
We go sick on this side. And my, here's my argument. My only argument is, is if you have a house that was built in the thirties or even in the twenties and you do an addition to the house, why does the addition need to be 2,000% stronger than the house? Couldn't it be twice as strong as the house? You understand? Yes. The house. And you know, the inspectors always do a thing where they're like, well, what if there was an earthquake?
49:24🔗
Adam
The house has been unbolted, un-shear walled, no straps, no HDs, no nothing. For since the twenties, we've had three big ones and it's fine. So what if? You tell me what if. What if? There was someone living here when it, when the big ones hit, you know, 10 years ago and the big one hit 30 years ago, there's someone sitting in this house while sleeping because earthquakes don't work unless enough, enough people have to have their eyes closed in order for them to hit.
49:50🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Did you buy, did you buy your house thinking about the earthquake situation? I did. Like it's one floor.
49:56🔗
Adam
I used to do, I used to do earthquake rehab for a living. So I have no, I know exactly how houses react in earthquakes and what happens in earthquakes and what's good and what's bad. And no one has any problems, except for Dr. Drew's got poured in place slabs.
50:13🔗
Adam
Let's just take some calls. Tess, family will be fine. Tess, no, look, here's what you don't want in an earthquake. Just masonry is not the friend of an earthquake. And certainly unreinforced masonry, which is what you have in all parts of the world. And every place that's close to third world, first thing you have is unreinforced masonry. That's the number one.
50:44🔗
Adam
No, cement falls apart. That's why all the freeway overpasses fall apart. And even that is reinforced masonry, but somebody, some genius figured out that they need to put a jacket around the stuff. So just didn't, you know, the pylons or the piers didn't just crumble.
50:59🔗
Lisa Edelstein
I hate being on the freeway here when you're under all those overpasses. It's just terrifying to me, especially when you're stuck in traffic underneath them.
51:07🔗
Adam
Well, the thing is, and we won't go, we won't go too far off on the building and engineering. But here's the thing. The freeways are essentially fine. It's all of the piers that were holding up the freeways were concrete piers that had rebar inside of them. But the outside would crack and crumble and the things would fall down and then there was trouble. So they started wrapping them with steel so that the thing could not fall apart.
51:45🔗
Adam
Yeah, it was. And I don't know why someone didn't figure this out earlier, that if you took a cement post and you put steel in it, it would still just compress and crack and fall apart, essentially. All right. But now they're ramping them with the steel and it's all going to be fun. So these parts of the world that come undone with these big earthquakes, you know, if we have a 7.6 in Los Angeles, eight people die, they have 20,000 people die. Yeah. Tess?
52:13🔗
Hello?
52:31🔗
Caller
I have a problem when I'm masturbating or after I'm masturbating. My leg, my calf muscle, it used to be just a charlie horse, but over the years it's grown into a full-out spasm.
52:51🔗
Adam
Again, I start putting a warm-up cycle in my bathroom. Like they have on the sidelines of the NFL games, receiver will just be pedaling on, just staying warm, just getting the juices flowing. If you got to get in the game, you don't want to go in cold.
53:05🔗
Lisa Edelstein
But is it just when you're masturbating or is it when you have sex also? No. Not when you have sex.
53:15🔗
Drew
He gets spasms in his chest when he does the pose down in front of the mirror afterwards though. I think spasms all of a sudden.
53:24🔗
Drew
Potassium is good, but some of this is hyperventilating. You want to watch your breathing while you're doing it. The other thing is just tensing your muscles up. If you breathe and relax, this is less likely to happen.
53:40🔗
Adam
You're black? I'm just saying, whoever said eat the bananas line, that could have been, you know, the white guy, if a white guy said that, that could have been a very dangerous statement. I know their heart was in the right place, but you know what I'm saying, Drew?
53:56🔗
Adam
I'm just saying, if a white guy said that, he'd have to have huevos the size of Pittsburgh. So yeah, here's the thing, don't point your toes when you masturbate. That'll cramp, that'll...
54:10🔗
Drew
Stop doing that. Try not to do that. Try to relax the leg muscles. And you can, really, the muscles that need to contract, use the adductor muscles, the muscles that pull your legs together.
54:19🔗
Adam
Try to see if you can squeeze one off with your knees bent. What? Can you do it with your knees bent?
54:33🔗
Drew
Yes. Bend your knees. Don't point your toes. Breathe. Don't hold your breath. Don't hyperventilate. And don't bear down. Do all that.
54:48🔗
Caller
Right on the back. And that person was just like the little charlie horse. But now it's like, right.
54:52🔗
Adam
Don't lock them out. Don't lock your legs out. That's true. What happens when you lock? Thanks for calling Tess. What happens when you lock your legs out?
54:59🔗
Drew
You put your muscle into isotonic spasm. You're just constantly contracting until they spontaneously start to tear.
55:09🔗
Adam
Is that what that pain is? I have gotten a calf cramp. Usually when I'm going for the hat trick.
55:19🔗
Drew
Lisa seems very intrigued by your use of language around the behavior of masturbation. She seems very interested in that.
55:39🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Well, I was just wondering what was her technique? Because if she's, maybe if she's using, if she uses a tool, like a vibrator or something, it might be easier for her to achieve without tensing because she doesn't have to do any physical work.
56:20🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Just once in a while. But you're right, actually, they can have a detrimental effect.
56:24🔗
Adam
No, I agree. It's really, it's like someone putting a beer tap in their house and say, no, I'll just have a sipper tap.
56:30🔗
Drew
I was thinking about this. It's interesting how humans, even within normal spectrum behaviors, get momentum with stuff.
56:36🔗
Drew
You know what I mean? There's a lot of, I think we've made fun of over the, at least the last 20, 30 years, people trying to maintain abstinence and abstinence and stuff like, well, it's a big deal. It's a free country. Relax. But you start, you get going. You know what I mean? Yeah.
56:51🔗
Adam
And I think a really important part of life is sort of knowing what you might fall prey to and not bringing it into your environment before you have a problem.
57:06🔗
Drew
But some of it is really avoiding some of the things. I mean, the church kind of had a right on some of these things.
57:11🔗
Adam
That's what I mean. I mean, I feel like if I, you know, if I go out and buy a box of sugary cereal, I'll demolish it that day. I won't be able to just have a bowl every other week for the next month and a half. So I just don't buy it. Just don't bring it into the house.
57:36🔗
Adam
The point is, like I said, if I put a keg in my house, it starts off with a couple of glasses at night, but eventually it'll be in for breakfast and over the cereal and I'll be eating. It should be on everything. Fruit salad, put a little beer on there. But Tess is right. Tess feels like, look, I get this vibrator.
58:00🔗
Lisa Edelstein
I don't know if she's going to go that crazy. Maybe she'll go for that maybe for a week and it'll get boring. I mean, it's not that interesting.
58:09🔗
Adam
Some people are able to do, we're just interpreting what you say. Here's what I'm saying.
58:23🔗
Adam
You know what I mean? And you're asking her to bring a big block into the house and she's into it and there's other people who don't have a sweet tooth.
58:29🔗
Drew
I put it this way. She masturbates every day until her leg rips apart. It doesn't stop her.
58:44🔗
Caller
Okay. I kind of have this weird thing going on right now. I actually I haven't had sexual intercourse in coming up on TV in three years nor engaged in any sexual activities. Besides, you know, like the miniature making out sessions here and there when I'm pink at the club or something.
59:17🔗
Caller
I'm 21 years old. I don't think it's probably the most healthy thing. I feel like the longer I go without any physical contact with male or sexual activity, the more I don't want it or desire it or any.
59:36🔗
Caller
No. See, that's the weird thing. You know, I dated a guy while we were together for about two years. And then we had a pretty normal sex life or whatever. We broke up. And then I had kind of like a one night stand with a guy, like right after we broke up. And that was years ago. And then I just shut down.
59:59🔗
Caller
No, I didn't feel dirty. I don't, I don't know. Like I just, you know, put it on the back burner and then totally completely took it off the stove.
1:00:23🔗
Drew
She's definitely depressed, but it also sounds like there's a lot more going on in her life that she doesn't hook into what this is. You know what I mean? Something else going on. And this is sort of the symptom. Janet, what's going on with your family of origin? Are they still together? Is everything going OK?
1:00:39🔗
Caller
My parents aren't together. I pretty much grew up with my mom. She had a substance abuse problem. She kind of, I saw a lot of abusive relationships that she was in.
1:01:00🔗
Drew
But it's enough to A, be enough to just have an abandoning father that you never had a relationship with. B, all the other male figures you dealt with bring, come in and create chaos and are abusive. So it makes sense that you shut down.
1:01:18🔗
Caller
Yeah, you know, I haven't gone to a therapist or anything. But I just don't think that, like, if I keep, you know.
1:01:29🔗
Drew
Yeah, yeah. What you think doesn't matter, unfortunately. We're telling you that, really, it frustrates me. And people go, well, I've got to be, your opinion is great that you have an opinion, but you're asking experts for direction who have, you know, hundreds or thousands of cases like this. You follow their direction. Your experience is everything. Your experience is extremely valid, extremely important. But your opinion about it, you're 21 or whatever, 22. You've not studied this stuff. You're not positioned to have an opinion about it. You should be following directions.
1:02:00🔗
Adam
That's part of the problem of today's society, is everyone's decided their title to opinion and an expert about it. Well, you know what it is? Let me tell you. I know Drew is angry.
1:02:10🔗
Adam
Here's the thing. No, here, yes. Here's, no, you don't think you're an expert at building. You don't think you're an expert at computers.
1:02:18🔗
Adam
You think you figured out the human part of it. Here's the line of Ace. We've rammed up everyone's arse over the last 10 years, which is nobody knows you like you. Nobody, only you know you. Nobody can really know you like yourself. You gotta look inside, but ultimately nobody knows. What the F does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. Of course. And again, if you apply any of this stuff to carpenter stuff, no, just, what do you mean? You know, you know your own pulmonary system better than anyone else would know your own pulmonary system. That's why you should do work on yourself with a mirror.
1:02:55🔗
Adam
Of course not. You don't do anything on yourself. You don't know your teeth. You don't know anything.
1:02:59🔗
Drew
And now with that, if as a physician knowing something, the last thing you do is work on yourself. Last thing.
1:03:06🔗
Adam
Yeah, but no one knows you like you. And here's the problem. Here's the line of BS that got rammed up by so the last 15, 20 years. Nobody knows you like you and there's only one of you. Cause that's how you would know. That's how come you're an expert on yourself. Yeah. So now poor Drew, no one will listen to him.
1:03:24🔗
Adam
Don't talk. No, see I'm a carpenter. So people have to listen to me because they don't, they don't know what I know. And they can't think they know what I know. And if they do, I'll start throwing around some stuff and they'll get screwed up and that'll be the end of that. Everyone listen to me. But Drew, they, they think they know. Now they don't think they know the medical side, but they think they know the emotional side.
1:03:50🔗
Drew
I was just, I was dealing with producing a TV segment and I had a particular approach, a particular problem, and I brought some subjects in. I was going to have them tell their experience as a way of showing or about revealing the specifics about the situation I was trying to document. You know, listen to these people's stories and I'll interpret for you what that means. And one of the producers goes, well, this woman disagrees with you completely. I'm like, it doesn't matter. She's a subject.
1:04:30🔗
Adam
The third part of it, no one knows you like you. The second part is there's only one of you. And then the third is, is everyone's opinion is valid. And just as important as the next person because we're all human beings.
1:04:40🔗
Drew
And that's what screws people up. So they're busily intellectualizing things that they have no training, no business thinking about. And missing their experience.
1:04:48🔗
Drew
But they miss focusing on their experience, which is everything. That's what they have.
1:04:52🔗
Lisa Edelstein
They're in their experience. So they can't, they cannot get perspective on it from the outside, especially at that age, because they don't have enough experience to look back upon and say, oh, I felt that way that time. And that really turned to hell. To hell. Right. So yeah.
1:05:09🔗
Adam
Look, there's just the point is, is there's more stupid people than there are smart people. So start listening to Dr. Drew. Would you please, David?
1:05:18🔗
Yes.
1:05:20🔗
Yes, sir.
1:05:22🔗
Well, I love the show, first of all.
1:05:25🔗
Thanks. And I just recently discovered that my parents are swingers.
1:05:36🔗
That's the terrible part. They went away when they had their friends.
1:05:44🔗
No, not quite.
1:05:48🔗
I had to borrow my dad's camera after the weekend that their friends were down. So I took my photos and I was transferring them over to the computer.
1:05:58🔗
And I went through my photos and I got to his and it was all four of them in their bed. Oh. So that was a couple of weeks ago and I haven't said anything to him yet.
1:06:14🔗
It was bad, Adam.
1:06:18🔗
I mean, I don't know how graphic I can get on the show, but you know, it was all there.
1:06:26🔗
It was my parents and one other couple, man and woman, that they've actually known and had down to the house, you know, for the past year and a half. And I've always had this like sneaking suspicion, and my friends too, that, you know, there was something a little bit more because my dad would be on the phone with, you know, the female portion of this couple for hours, you know, in a dark room. And I would walk in and he would get all jumpy about it.
1:06:58🔗
Not in the pictures that I saw.
1:07:04🔗
Adam
I'm on the fence. It feels a little bogus on the other hand, all right, pictures, but you know, see old people, the dork still works, but you can't work the technology. You know what I mean?
1:07:18🔗
Adam
Is that old people are gonna screw up with the cameras and the chips and the computers and all that stuff.
1:07:22🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Because of all four of them, there had to be like, then you've got the tripod and there's a lot of setting up involved.
1:07:29🔗
Adam
Let me tell you something with that timer, that picture timer thing. It's probably a good 30 seconds, but people treat it like it's three and a half seconds. They always hit the timer thing and they run, and then they dive into the group, and then the group gets all, and then you stand there and it's like, what's happened? Then about the time the guy figures out the thing's not working, he takes a step toward it and then you see the flash.
1:07:51🔗
Adam
Someone ought to really explain to people what 30 seconds really is. Guy, a guy on a good run can cover 200 yards in 30 seconds. You can cover the six feet in the living room. You don't have to dive, you don't have to do the shoulder roll. How cruel the person who invented the camera says, well, we can put a timer on it. Let's give them two seconds. They give me a while. I'm just saying, I'd like people to work that out. That's all I'm saying. All right, where the hell? We're telling David, yeah. So David, I believe you because your information is specific.
1:08:25🔗
Well, and to be more specific, it wasn't all four of them in the shot. It was two or three at a time. So, I never saw my dad and the other guy in the same.
1:08:35🔗
Drew
All right, so here's the deal. Maybe you shouldn't get into this with them at all. You're 22.
1:08:43🔗
I was gonna say, you know, I love my parents and we have a really good relationship right now. And, you know, I'm on the verge of moving out at this point.
1:08:56🔗
Drew
Expedite the move out. Don't take on any of these habits. I worry about your parents' relationship. If the relationships start to fall apart, maybe you could then be helpful to them by asking them to get a professional involved because these behaviors usually lead to trouble.
1:09:20🔗
And I don't even know that.
1:09:23🔗
My dad's a lawyer. My mom works for him. But this is the first couple I've ever really seen them interact this way with.
1:09:30🔗
Adam
All right. But David, what are you doing that you're 22 and you're still living at home?
1:09:34🔗
I'm a full time student, part time job.
1:09:37🔗
Adam
Well, it's time to go a little more a little more full time at the work, a little part time with the student.
1:09:50🔗
I'm sorry?
1:09:52🔗
I have one younger brother who's away at college. He just moved out.
1:10:05🔗
Drew
What would you accomplish by discussing this with your parents are going to be defensive.
1:10:08🔗
Adam
I don't know that he was calling to ask, you know, what to do with the parents. I think they just want to talk like, you know, my feeling. Should I feel this way? You should feel weirded out. You should also get over it. You should also not think it can work in your life, but you should get the F out of Dodge.
1:10:35🔗
Adam
No. I mean, yeah. The longer you spend in your house as an adult or as a sort of right thinking adult, the more s you're going to find out that's going to disappoint you. Like here's the deal. Somewhere around, I don't know, 12 or something, you start really, you start getting the ability to sort of form thoughts and really understand that your parents, even though they're your parents, have their foibles and their shortcomings and are human beings. There's a certain point, I don't know when it is, 11, 12.
1:11:07🔗
Adam
Yeah, okay. But there's plenty of 13 year olds out there now who understand that dad is maybe not the greatest dad in the world or whatever. Okay, now it's game on. Now you better hope you don't stumble on his stash of weird, you know, gimp porn or whatever. You're going to hear something, you're going to see something. Now, the longer you hang out with your adult brain where you can process information, the more disappointed, the more likely you're going to find something or be disappointed. That's when you get out at 18. And, you know, I'd go through my house, like that movie Tommy, I put a ball in my mouth, I put a shade on my eyes, I put stuff in my ears, and I just have to feel my way through the house.
1:12:25🔗
Drew
My new favorite show, House, Tuesday night, nine o'clock. After which you can watch TLC and pick up Adam's show.
1:12:35🔗
Adam
Yeah, House, hour long show. Watch that on Fox, and you switch over, and you get to watch me build a house. All right, where are we, Drew? All right, Cynthia.
1:12:47🔗
Yes.
1:12:49🔗
Yes.
1:12:51🔗
I had a question. I recently found out that I'm pregnant. I found out about six weeks or so, and I was taking Depaco, and a fixer, and I'm also a meth user.
1:13:04🔗
Right. This is also my sixth pregnancy. I had five abortions before this.
1:13:14🔗
I was taking the morning after pill. My boyfriend and I were pretty much exes, and so we weren't having sex that often, and when we did, I used the morning after pill, and it took me just as much by surprise and found out I was pregnant, and you didn't take it very well.
1:13:30🔗
Lisa Edelstein
You were just using it every time you had sex, the morning after pill? That's so intense.
1:13:33🔗
Yeah, it was like two times, three times, that was it.
1:13:43🔗
No, I had five actual abortion prior.
1:13:51🔗
Yeah, I didn't see any reason to get on actual birth control again because it was so infrequent, and all we do is fight, really.
1:14:03🔗
Drew
The birth control pill is 99.97% effective. The morning after pill, in the best of circumstances, is about 85%.
1:14:13🔗
Yes, I did. And the last one, I hemorrhaged, and I didn't think that I could even get pregnant, but still I took precaution and took morning after pill when it happened.
1:14:24🔗
Daily, every day.
1:14:26🔗
Adam
If I had an abortion clinic, I would just treat it like a sub shop or I'd give you the six one free. That's my thing, like let me see the stamp. Yeah, let me punch that, sweetie. Let me see the car card. You don't have it on you. Well, I'm just saying any good business, let's face it, gentlemen, it's a business. Do not kid yourselves. I would be lying to you if I said abortion wasn't a business. It's all whatever kind of business you have, you got to make money. I mean, you got to keep the, you know, you got to keep the electricity on. It works, you know, for Starbucks, for abortion places.
1:14:59🔗
Drew
So Cynthia, the effects are not good during pregnancy. The math is obviously not good during pregnancy. So what are we going to do here?
1:15:08🔗
I don't know. Everything so far is looking for me and not have it based on that. Plus the father is saying that if I do have it, that I'd be on my own. And he threw me out the car when he found out that I was pregnant. And in that situation, it's very bad.
1:15:30🔗
Adam
Yes. You know, they say measure twice, cut once. What I'd like all our our listeners to do is think twice, speak once.
1:15:40🔗
Adam
Now, I don't think she dropped the F or the S. It just sounded like it was coming. Okay.
1:15:45🔗
Drew
But, Cindy, here's the deal. Deal with this pregnancy as you please. Give it up for adoption. If you see it through, there'll be a wonderful gift to that child.
1:15:56🔗
Drew
You don't know. It could be. It could be. And it's also reasonably good abortion, given the fact this could be a damaged biological situation. And get the hell out of that relationship. And if you need, if you're stuck in the cycle of abuse, get some battered women's help. Yeah, there's organizations that help specifically.
1:16:11🔗
Lisa Edelstein
So it comes with the territory of meth. I mean, there's, yeah, so it comes with that.
1:16:16🔗
Adam
And then all this stuff like he threw me out of the car while it was moving. And I know everyone just does that, but it's also, this guy's an idiot. I'm sure it didn't exactly go down the way you're saying it.
1:16:28🔗
Lisa Edelstein
They're both in the relationship too. So she's getting something out of that relationship.
1:16:31🔗
Adam
Of course, because her dad was abusive and now she gets to relive it. And then everything's abuse, because he didn't push you out of the car while it was moving. You were fighting with him and he pushed you out of the car while it was rolling or whatever. But that's how it goes down. It's like, look, once you get abused and you get abused enough, then everything is rape. Everything is physical abuse. Everything is everything.
1:16:59🔗
Adam
Right. Yeah. You hear these stories. That's how you know people are victimized. You hear these stories like, well, we're just driving down the street and all of a sudden he flings the door open and pushes me out. Yeah. Just just driving down the street. That's just driving. Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to cause corny sound with your fingernails. That's when he pushed you out. Now, he's an idiot. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. He's an abuser. Don't get me wrong. You don't realize you have to dance with all these people. It's all these people's stories like, you know, when you hear that stuff, it's like, here's how it goes. Teacher gave me an F because they hate me, man.
1:17:32🔗
Adam
That leads to best employee. Boss hates me. And I always like this one, too. And I always say to him, too, really, you did the work of three people and yet the guy fired you. Why do you think that is?
1:17:49🔗
Adam
Yeah, believe me, I've employed plenty of people. I'm rarely jealous of the ones that excel. I actually, my thing is like, I want to graft some of your skin onto these lazy SOBs over here and see if I can grow a decent employee. I'm not jealous of you. By the way, when did we start tossing this jealousy thing out like it was an actual viable answer for everything?
1:18:18🔗
Adam
Because maybe you really are a bad employee. Maybe you do actually, or whatever they're saying. Go ahead and listen. And if you've been fired for multiple jobs, assume not everyone's jealous of you.
1:18:30🔗
Drew
By the way, there's also a price to be paid for working around people. Sometimes when someone is so aggressive or obnoxious or just painful to be around, people will let a good employee go. Either because they perceive a liability, like this is someone who eventually is going to do something scary.
1:18:51🔗
Adam
Yeah, but ultimately if you're really doing great work, people will find a way, just like a great athlete.
1:18:58🔗
Drew
We call that show business then. Well, that's what happens in show business. People are paying, they get away with stuff.
1:19:04🔗
Adam
In the real world, they go, fuh, that's too short. Let me just bring you my own thing here for a second. Good carpenters, hard to find good carpenters. And good carpenters can be super flaky and you won't cut them loose. And good carpenters can miss days and good carpenters can cuss out the foreman and stuff like that because they're so skilled at what they do and they're such short supply, people will look the other way.
1:19:28🔗
Drew
But in a way you're sort of making both of our points there. They will look the other way, but many people at a certain point will finally go, I don't care how good he is.
1:19:43🔗
Yes?
1:19:45🔗
Uh-huh.
1:19:48🔗
Well, I went to the, I was having a lot of problems with my period, like every time I was on it, it was like incredibly, incredibly painful. Like I was in my bed screaming for the whole time.
1:20:00🔗
Caller
And I went to the doctor, an actually different doctor than my normal one, and they caught that I had endometriosis. And I've had it since I was like in, I've had been having the same problem since I was in like sixth grade.
1:20:17🔗
Caller
Yeah. And they, they went in and did the, did a laparoscopy for it and fixed it. But, and that was probably about four months ago now. And then they put me on Depo Povera to stop my period so I could heal or whatever. And, but I'm, I've been bleeding the whole time. I've been on Depo constantly, like maybe off for like a week.
1:20:39🔗
Drew
Maggie, Maggie, that's what happens to everybody that takes the Depo. You have three months of bleeding and then you have three months.
1:20:44🔗
Caller
So I'm still a lot of pain and I've gone to the doctor about it. And when I, whenever I go to the urgent care or whatever, and they do a blood test to see it, because they're always worried that it's appendicitis, because it's pain in that area. Right. My blood, my white blood count's always up at like 1600.
1:21:05🔗
Caller
They're like, well, it's not, they do like a CAT scan. They go, well, it's not appendicitis, so we're just going to send you home. And I'm just worried since it's a lot of pain. And I mean, it took them how long to catch me in the meteorosis. I don't really trust my doctors.
1:21:18🔗
Drew
Well, here's the deal. 16,000 is not normal. Okay, and look, it warrants, at very least, careful supervision. So you go back to your doctor, you get checked, you get followed, and CAT scan, MRI, ultrasound, all that of that area where there are symptoms is a reasonable thing to do. But the appendix does get missed an awful lot. Now you may want to see a general surgeon just to see if that's a possibility. It doesn't sound like anything you should be alarmed about. The reality is that if this is something more serious than just endometriosis, it will show itself with time. So as long as you're being watched and followed and carefully sort of examined across time, they'll figure this out eventually. You've got kind of a funny idea about endometriosis. Endometriosis is just uterine tissue out in your pelvic cavity. And it gets, it sets up there and actually menstruates. And as when you're in your period, it gets very irritating to the lining of your pelvis. And they go in the laparoscope and they take it all out.
1:22:23🔗
Adam
Let's take ourselves a little break. You gotta be a little more specific than that, don't you? How many, and let me just say, as we were talking about earlier, how much senior abuse is actually going down and who's responsible and do you know anyone that's doing it and don't they get abused when they go to those crappy homes?
1:22:54🔗
Drew
It's usually sort of inadvertent. It's like they don't really realize, we have this huge ageing population, and people aren't being raised to understand what that population needs, and they leave them in their feces and they don't take care of them, their skin breaks down, that's considered elder abuse, they just don't know. There is also overt abuse when they start struggling and fighting with them and stuff. The point is just raising awareness about the services that are available to help deal with old people.
1:23:20🔗
Adam
I believe a lot of it is, listen old man, I've waited 70 years to give you an ass-whopper.
1:23:29🔗
Adam
I'm going to give my dad a few more years, and then I'm going upside his head with a folding chair.
1:23:34🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Well, we don't live in a society where we have a natural order of respecting our elders.
1:23:49🔗
Adam
Yeah. Then they harpoon some whales, and then they capture sharks and just cut the fin off and throw them back, and then they eat some sushi off a virgin, and then they commit suicide. But they respect their elders over there. You understand me? Yeah. Don't worry about the whaling.
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1:24:46🔗
Adam
Yeah, Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, Lisa Edelstein here tonight from House, Tuesday nights.
1:24:56🔗
Adam
And then after that, you watch my TLC show. Learn a little something about home improvement.
1:25:11🔗
Drew
By the way, an interesting thing I did is a show with Lance Armstrong tonight that's gonna air during the week. It's pretty good.
1:25:17🔗
Drew
He aired tonight at 8, but he's gonna keep airing throughout the week. You know how to do that stuff. But just keep an eye out for it. It's a good show. It's a good show.
1:25:24🔗
Drew
Very nice guy. Totally impressed. Really? I was prepared, you know how we are. Yeah, we hate everyone. Whatever. We get over people pretty easily. And he was a mensch. He was a good guy.
1:25:51🔗
Caller
I got this problem with my nose. I don't know what's going on. It's been like a year now. I wake up in the morning.
1:26:33🔗
Drew
All right, Steve, get an ENT consult. Fine, then take control of things. Get an ENT consult. There you go.
1:26:38🔗
Adam
Steve sounds like a delight. You can, when the weather gets dry, maybe it has been pretty dry lately, you can just get those spontaneous bleeds.
1:26:49🔗
Lisa Edelstein
If you're running the heater, if it's really dry in your house, maybe if you get a humidifier. Get a humidifier for the room.
1:26:55🔗
Drew
Yeah, it could be a lot of different things, all of which needs more formal evaluation, so.
1:27:25🔗
No.
1:27:27🔗
To be honest with you.
1:27:30🔗
Lisa Edelstein
You're not under the water. You're not dealing with pressure, air pressure. No. Issues.
1:27:50🔗
I already went.
1:27:53🔗
It was alright.
1:27:55🔗
Adam
Well, let's wait, wait. Well, well, if you listen to a morning's on the camisacks, you'll hear. Here's the whole thing. Yeah, it's okay.
1:28:08🔗
Adam
I'm amazed at people that do things that are interesting and they have nothing really to say about it.
1:28:13🔗
Drew
Or even more sort of mystified by our interest. Why'd you want to know? It was alright.
1:28:19🔗
Adam
We were in the Gulf of Tonkin for a while. A couple of planes hit our ship, but, nah. It's okay.
1:28:36🔗
Adam
The guys on the ships don't seem to have the battle fatigue syndrome that the ground pounders have.
1:28:45🔗
Adam
Yeah, because most of these guys... Well, here's the whole thing about the aircraft carrier. First off, floating cities.
1:28:53🔗
Adam
Floating cities. If I hear another aircraft carrier special refer to as the floating city, I will kill myself. That is a floating city. Literally a floating city. It has barbers. It has a soup kitchen. It has wash. Yeah, yeah, we get it. There's 4,000 people that live on it. We understand you got to have a barbership. I've done the math. You're at sea for six months. I understand you have to bring some food. I understand how that goes. I understand how that would go. So the thing about it is, most these guys are working on something that keeps the ship going.
1:29:29🔗
Adam
They're not on the deck with the 50 caliber machine gun. They're actually doing something that trash disposal, laundry, whatever.
1:29:38🔗
Adam
Support services, which is not going to get you laid. But you also don't have to wake up in the middle of the night with cold sweat pouring down your face thinking that you screwed up a starch shirt.
1:29:56🔗
Adam
You know the thing that's crazy? The nuclear powered ones, they don't have to do no fueling for like 25 years.
1:30:06🔗
Adam
It's crazy, isn't it? They just have that, they just have those rods, baby. And those rods give off heat for 25 years. Well, probably 250 million years. But the point is, here's the thing, those ships and those ships would burn a million gallons of diesel fuel every week if they were just turning that prompt, just burning it.
1:30:31🔗
Drew
How come they don't ever worry about, you hear the China syndrome and meltdowns, how come they don't worry about somebody dropping something on one of those ships and a meltdown occurring?
1:30:43🔗
Drew
But I mean, somebody dropping something explosive on them, you know what I mean? Why don't they worry about that more than a meltdown or something?
1:30:58🔗
Drew
A lot of terrorist attention to nuclear power plants. Why don't they have the same attention to these floating cities?
1:31:11🔗
Adam
Standing around and they don't have six decks above them of well-trained guys with, you know what I mean? They can't defend themselves. That's the whole thing. They have inadequate security. That's the scary part about... The morally safer shows up with a camera crew, finds a gate that's open and walks into the place.
1:31:31🔗
Lisa Edelstein
And why do we have a nuclear power plant on the ocean, on the fault line just below Los Angeles?
1:31:45🔗
Adam
I don't know. But you know what? It works. And here's the deal. You'd be burning coal otherwise. And that's the reality.
1:32:02🔗
Well, I've been diagnosed and treated... I mean, I can't say completely treated, but I've been treated for depression and PTSD and attention deficit.
1:32:17🔗
And attention deficit disorder.
1:32:21🔗
I want to have children, but I'm really... You know, you guys talk about it a lot, like people with messed up histories having children.
1:32:32🔗
Drew
Well, no, no, Heather, people with messed up history don't acknowledge that they have a messed up history. You're somebody who's in careful treatment or being managed.
1:32:42🔗
Drew
Just because you have mental issues doesn't mean, or mental disorder doesn't mean that you can't have kids. It's going to be dicey because you have to come off your meds and you have to be very carefully managed. But Mazel Tov, go keep going. Yeah. This is not the situation we're talking about where people...
1:32:58🔗
Lisa Edelstein
Plus her issues sound circumstantial, not necessarily genetic. She's in post-traumatic stress.
1:33:04🔗
Drew
Truly. But I think that's what she's referring to is that we're always saying screwed up people having kids, acting that out on the kids. But this is not her. I mean, her kids are going to have a little challenge because she's got some chronic illness. But no more challenge than a mom with cystic fibrosis or chronic back injury or whatever. So that's all right.
1:34:16🔗
Adam
Drew showing up. Yeah. And let me tell you something. He drew. It was a game time decision.
1:34:24🔗
Drew
Going to suit up. And then A, was I going to suit up? A, B, was I going to make it to the game?
1:34:28🔗
Adam
Yeah. The point is, is he showed up and went to work. Lisa, God love you. God bless you. Thank you.
1:34:33🔗
Adam
We'll take ourselves a little extendo break. God willing, Drew will be back 100 percent tomorrow night. Until next time, I'm Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.
1:34:46🔗
Adam
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