1:39🔗VoiceoverLoveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually-oriented content. Sexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
2:02🔗VoiceoverHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. 1-800-LOVE-191 is the phone number. Dr. Drew, board-certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Let me give out a phone number for you there, kiddies, because I'm doing this TV show, and it's real intimate, Drew. You know, we're almost in the round.
2:27🔗AdamNo. We're starting it this week, though. The audience is 280 degrees around. Maybe getting close to maybe about 300, almost a full circle. Very intimate. Very intimate. So here's the point. We only got about 80 people as opposed to the big grandstand type audience there. I wanted no audience to be honest with you, but they had to have some audience.
2:51🔗AdamIt is, and I realize I want to talk to people, and people ask questions and everything.
2:57🔗DrewYou're playing to somebody there. You don't just play the camera.
2:59🔗AdamYeah, I just didn't want a load of Filipino tourists that are not tripping into the place. So here's the point. I need people who like me, like this kind of thing, and want to be on camera, and want to ask a question, or just hang out. But at least, it can't be between this and the prices right. You gotta get your audience. You know what this is?
3:23🔗AdamI remember I had to. Oh yes. This is a small acoustic set. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm playing McCabe's. Yes. I need my audience. So you just call 866-546-6984, 866-546-6984, and I'll get a little message machine, and get your name in there. I think I...
3:46🔗DrewI reshot some stuff without an audience, and I really missed it.
4:08🔗AdamFeh-feh-feh-feh. All right, so we call that, and I think that's the audience number for Jimmy Kimmel Live, and Carson Daly Show, and that stuff too, but you'll hear my name on there when you come see it.
4:18🔗DrewHey, how many time have you seen me wear sandals? Look at this.
4:21🔗AdamDrew, flip-flops, baby. Looking good. What happened to your toe?
5:08🔗DrewI was like, oh, it's too hot. I'm going to get off there, running on coals, and then boom. Oh, it's a beautiful thing.
5:14🔗AdamNow, did you dig the rock up and dispose of it?
5:17🔗DrewNo, because it was a huge boulder. Oh, really? I'd run into something that was covered under the sand, so it's ridiculous.
5:24🔗AdamBad times. Yeah, well, you got to sue the man. Yeah, I just realized stubbing the toe is something you remember very vividly from your childhood. Yeah. Doesn't happen so much as you get older. It's really one of the only good things about getting older is not stubbing your toe.
5:44🔗DrewThe other thing is you age, your tissues aren't as resilient and strong. You stub your toe in your kid, you just sort of, you just sort of, no, this toe like splits in half.
5:53🔗AdamDrew's got a nosebleed. Yeah. No, listen, I had one of my nephews punch me in the nuts yesterday, and the thing about getting hit in the nuts is, getting hit in the nuts is like when a guy gets hit by the pitcher at the plate. 8 out of 10, they hit the guy in the ass cheek, they hit the guy in the thigh, they catch the guy in the meaty part. No, not the pubic bone. Oh yeah, pubic bone. Yeah.
6:26🔗AdamBut sometimes it hits a guy in the shoulder, the meaty part of the back, and he just jogs it off. But every once in a while, he takes one right in the face.
6:33🔗AdamThat's what this is. It's hard to tell from the pitch. It's hard to tell which one would have caused damage and which one wouldn't. But for some reason, they end up walking away. It's like hits in the NFL.
6:43🔗AdamThe ones that cause the fractures, they don't look any different.
6:46🔗DrewIt's a spectacular hit with a guy spinning over their head.
6:49🔗AdamA guy gets up and shakes it off nine times out of ten. Then something stupid where he tears a bunch of ligaments, turns his ankle, that's nothing. That's just rolling out, no one even hit him.
6:58🔗AdamRight. Okay. That's what getting hit in the nuts by your nephew is like. Guy's pounding, nephew's pounding on me, socking me, doing the novelty, dropping elbows and knees on me. But one shot catches the ball on the thigh bone and gets mashed between the five-year-old fist and the femur.
7:17🔗DrewOh, and you got all that prodigious sack hanging around, too.
7:54🔗AdamBig glass, cold schooner. Let me tell you, drinking beer is good, but what you drink beer out of is better. Going to the ball game and drinking out of a Styrofoam sucks. But a big glass schooner.
8:09🔗DrewThat's why the Germans invented those huge steins.
10:21🔗AdamAll right. All right. Yeah. Anderson hates Michelle. It's I'd ask why, but he doesn't really need a reason. So it's not worth getting into it. But he loves to play that weird shut up thing every time she talks on the air. Which is horribly, horribly, horribly annoying to me. Who was that? I'm done.
11:29🔗AdamAll right. That's the way it works. All right. Anderson hates Michelle. Here's the whole thing. I have no idea why engineer Anderson hates engineer Michelle and I don't care. That's the whole thing. I know Drew feels the same way. He has no idea and doesn't care either. Just one of those things you have to endure. Now, I really don't know, but I really don't care.
12:15🔗DrewChris, I'm so impressed. He was well-delivered. I didn't know he'd been practicing.
12:18🔗AdamHe socked the mic. I have so much passion. Right on the key syllable too, so you lost it. Awesome. All right. Well, you'll be missed. Mazel Tov, congratulations on that AA degree. Thank you. Well-earned. And I know I made a lot of fun of you, but I was just trying to motivate you. And evidently, it's worked.
13:28🔗DrewIt's good to know. Hang on a second, Nick, but we wonder why people, when they call us, have a skewed understanding of what we've been speaking about. We talk about little headier things than Chris leaving, and they call us saying, how dare you say that? Because of course, it's their experience and it's about them, so they can't be objective about it.
13:57🔗CallerWell, my girlfriend, she talked me into shaving my balls, and I ended up cutting myself, and it's a pretty good gash, like a half inch in length.
15:17🔗Okay, first of all, I do want to say that I agree with you from, I don't know, it's probably a couple weeks back. You said that people have to be hungry to really fully appreciate what they get later on. I totally agree with that.
15:30🔗AdamThank you, because we're just talking about that 11 days ago.
16:46🔗Yeah. That's part of the issue. Actually, that's the entire issue. I cry, absolutely, every time. It's really weird for him because he's like, oh, we should that I do.
16:59🔗DrewVery self-aware, evolved. Beautiful use of language. Poetic.
17:04🔗AdamIt's one thing when you're... All right. All right. She just dropped the S-bomb, so I have to put her on hold. She was abused. Now, wait a minute, Drew.
17:31🔗Adam39 or whatever. Yeah. If you were over at Kinko's and Brad was your boss, showed up in a tight T-shirt one day, and you were 18, you'd be all over him. Especially if he's the boss.
17:43🔗DrewYeah. Now, the deal is, though, that she was sexually abused, so she is going to be attracted to abusive people and older people. And of course, it's a reenactment when she engages, when she indulges these attractions. And yeah, naturally enough, there's flashbacks and overwhelming feelings. Why don't you back up the relationship and work on some therapy instead of this relationship? That's really the only answer here. There's nothing else we can really do.
18:12🔗AdamBut here's the thing. That's all right. That's all right. Here's what I've realized. Here's how people cuss. They start speaking quickly, and then their words get out ahead of their brain, and then an F or an S bomb flies out. So we'll just be slow, plotting, and methodical with our answers.
18:44🔗CallerI don't know what, like, I'm so confused because I don't want to be attracted to them. Because I know it will get weird because I work with them and that's already gotten weird.
18:54🔗AdamOkay. All right. Well, hold on. Hold on, Melissa. And by the way, the other way to cast is to start getting upset or frustrated when you speak. So, slow that one down a little too.
19:05🔗DrewWell, you understand that this is an unhealthy choice for many different reasons. It's normal, but normal is not the right word. It's understandable that you would have boundary problems and you would engage in these things given your history.
19:39🔗DrewNow, some people have sort of resiliency with these things and kind of make it through okay, can persuade themselves to get into a healthier relationship, can put, you know, stop something like this and try to get in something healthier. If you can't, it's time for therapy. That's it. There's nothing we can say that makes that different.
19:57🔗DrewYou had horrible abuse. There's treatments for that. It's natural that you be attracted to abusive and older guys having been through what you went through. It's natural to have flashbacks and overwhelming feelings associated with sexuality, particularly with older male. No amount of convincing, it's not an intellectual process. No amount of talking is going to convince you out of that. It's not a thought problem.
20:18🔗AdamIt's like being burned horribly and thinking about doing rehab. You've got to get in that pool and get those weights on and start running on and going to Treadmill or whatever you have to do it.
20:30🔗DrewIt drives me crazy. I talk to high school teachers and high school principals who go, oh yeah, oh no, we have girls like Melissa. We'll teach her that's a bad thing. We'll show her that's a bad thing too. No, all the showing and teaching and understanding of the world is not going to change the drive, the motivations and the fact that they do these things.
20:49🔗AdamWell, it's weird too, oftentimes we have guests in the studio that sort of chime in with these sort of retarded aphorisms where they go like, you have to want to change. And it's like, I don't want to be rude because the guy's a big director, a big actor, a big whatever, but I want to go like, yes, your retardness, please shut up for a second.
21:10🔗DrewRetardness, the director's like, that guy over there is it?
21:13🔗AdamYeah, give some real advice here for a second and you've got to want to change and you've got to be ready for change or it's up to you to change. This means nothing.
21:24🔗AdamAll true means nothing and there's this weird thing that's going on in our society where everyone is interested in saying things that no one can really question.
21:33🔗DrewAlso no one can really do anything with it.
21:35🔗AdamNo one can do it. You can't do anything with it. But you saying, look, you can change what you've got to want to change is like saying, the greatest, the best, well, number one hangover tip. Don't drink. Oh, thank you. That's very helpful. Very helpful. What else do you have for me? What other tips? What other, what other, what other safety tips do you have for things I can't engage in? Right. Best, best way, best, the best sunblock is not going out in the sun.
22:13🔗AdamThank you, Jack Off. Do you have anything else? Any other pearls of wisdom for me, you idiots? He got to want to change. Hey, just got to take it easy. Hey, best way to quit smoking, Drew?
22:25🔗DrewNever pick up that cigarette in the first place.
22:28🔗DrewI'll tell all my heroin addicts that. They should just pick up the needle in the first place.
22:32🔗AdamBest way. Oh, you guys, you guys want to know the best way to quit chasing the dragon? Never pick up the rig in the first place. How about that? Thanks.
22:40🔗DrewI'll mention that the abuse of sexual abuse of parents, too.
22:42🔗AdamYeah. Hey, you guys, best way, best way to cope with sexual abuse. Don't get abused in the first place. Thank you. It's awesome. We can build a time machine. Thank you. Thank you, your royal anus.
22:56🔗AdamChoose to get. No, you got to choose to get over it. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome stuff. Boy, that is awesome. So easy. I wonder why everyone isn't just doing it left and right.
23:08🔗DrewBecause otherwise, it's your fault. You didn't choose to. You choose to be the one.
23:12🔗AdamYou have to choose. I choose to be a blowhard, who has no actual information. You see, I made that decision. You need to choose to deal with the abuse. You need to choose to get off heroin. I choose to spit out worthless isms on the radio that really have no effect.
23:31🔗DrewYou must choose that because that's what you do. It's your choice.
23:32🔗AdamThat's what I choose. I must choose to be a blowhard celebrity. Sean?
24:11🔗AdamIt's the same thing. Nine out of 10 people and God bless them, their hearts in the right place. They're trying to move so long. But nine out of 10 people call up and go like, Adam.
25:14🔗CallerPassionate, passionate. Anyway, first off, back to the point. I read your book, Cracked, and I really enjoyed it. Cool. I was wondering, what book next would you recommend?
25:27🔗DrewIf you're interested in addiction? Yeah. Tell me what you're interested in, exactly.
25:34🔗CallerJust like, I would look more into the more path of how addiction is began and.
25:51🔗DrewNo, no, no. Let me think about this. Well, I wrote another book. No, no, no, listen, and I mean this. I mean this because it really was meant to sort of flush out some of the stuff I brought out in that book. It was called When Painkillers Become Dangerous. And if that interests you, I would look into the work of Alan Shore, S-C-H-O-R-E, and Peter Fonagy, F-O-N-A-G-I. And those aren't books, but they publish articles and you can sort of read them. So Fonagy has a book, but it's not exactly eye candy.
26:18🔗AdamIt's gonna be awesome. He's 16, he's coming from Ohio, he doesn't even have a pool.
26:23🔗AdamAll right, let's take a break. Let's take a break. When we come back, Katie, unprotected oral sex a week ago, how soon do STDs show up? I'm gonna get my number out one more time. If you want to come see me.
26:36🔗DrewI was talking about STD, and then, call me.
26:38🔗AdamCall me at this come see me tape my Comedy Central show, 866-546-6984. 866-546-6984. We'll be right back with Young Amorous Katie after this.
26:59🔗Dr. Drew Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready.
27:41🔗AdamEddie Griffin is coming in here later on the week, and then Pennywise in studio. All right, Drew. 1-800-LOVE-191 is the phone number. Had unprotected oral sex a week ago.
27:55🔗DrewShould we play that Pennywise thing to sort of set up that show?
28:10🔗Well, I had unprotected oral sex a week ago, and it was with someone that I didn't really know that well, that we've been talking for a while, but we didn't talk about sexual history and that kind of stuff.
28:31🔗AdamWell, time machine, yeah. Time machine is like, how many roofies can I stuff into this backpack? How many condoms can I get in this backpack? How much ether can I get? All right, I'm going. Oh, I need some Pukka shells. Let's go. Let's go. What else? A TiVo. I'm going to freak everyone out. Although, thank God the TiVo wasn't invented 20 years ago because we had just been watching Hal Fishman on Channel 9. What would you have TiVoed?
30:19🔗AdamRight. Yeah, it's a right angle because when you're building, poor Katie, when you're building a house, you got one wall going down one way, then you turn the corner and you got the other wall, how do you know they're square?
30:33🔗AdamHow do you know they're not pinched in or bowed out or whatever? There's no tool for it really. You have to use the Pythagorean theorem there.
30:42🔗DrewUnless you just measure this distance here.
30:44🔗AdamYou go three foot this way or six foot this way, you go four foot or eight foot that way, and then you got to go 10 foot or five foot across. It's called three, four, five.
30:55🔗DrewWhat that is is, listen, wait, this squared plus this squared is the square root of that.
31:03🔗AdamI just know when that's three foot and that's four foot, that's got to be five foot and that's when you're square. Speaking of squared pops, Katie?
31:18🔗AdamNow, here's all I'm saying. This is what I wanted to say. The instances of guys just getting oral in today's age is much higher than it used to be.
31:35🔗AdamJust went on date and had a BJ. Now, they may have gotten a BJ as part of the overall sex package because they had a girlfriend or because they got lucky.
32:10🔗AdamHats off to AIDS is what the BJ fans say. Awesome. Go ahead, Katie.
32:15🔗CallerWell, I would say for me, it's more of an insecurity thing where it's something that I can do with someone and not have to be completely exposed myself.
32:24🔗DrewThat's what I'm talking about. It's diabolical, Katie.
32:50🔗AdamComing on at 20 years old. So her whole time on this planet, people have been saying, if you have unprotected sex, if you transmit whatever. So her thing is like, I just give a guy BJ.
33:01🔗DrewAlso, it gets the guy off her back. It's diabolical.
33:05🔗AdamYeah, it gets her off her back too. All right, Katie. So.
33:09🔗CallerWell, for me, it was something that I wanted to do, but I'm a virgin and I didn't want to lose my virginity. So it was something that I could still do and enjoy because I did enjoy doing it.
33:26🔗AdamOf having sex with a virgin. Not during experience. Maybe there's blood. You could be their first. I mean, you are the first. No. Well, a lot of our folks, their uncle raped them before you got to them. But I still think of them as a virgin. But my point is, there's baggage that goes along. They're not going to be great in the sack. There could be some bleeding.
33:49🔗AdamThey're going to get attached. Who wants to deal with it, especially if it's the kind of thing where you're not planning on staying around for the long haul.
33:54🔗DrewRight, you're hurting somebody if you do that.
33:56🔗AdamGetting a BJ from a virgin, however, has all the great trappings of the virginity part with none of the baggage. It's all the upside of the virgin.
34:07🔗DrewThat's just the upside for Katie, unless she feels okay about it.
34:09🔗AdamBut the idea of a virgin giving you a BJ, that's good for ten whacks right there. Forget about just the actual BJ.
34:30🔗CallerIt was not something that he pressured or initiated in any way. It was something that I initiated and that I wanted to do, because it's something that I wanted to do for a long time. I've been sexual from a very young age. So it's something that I-
34:43🔗DrewWhat does that mean? What does that mean?
34:44🔗CallerYou know, I've really, and I've been listening to your show forever. So I've really thought about my past and that kind of thing, and I've never been sexually abused or anything like that.
34:51🔗DrewWhat do you mean you were sexual? What does that mean?
34:54🔗CallerLike, I started masturbating at a very, very young age before- excuse me, before I was exposed to anything really sexual.
35:01🔗DrewThat usually means, when a kid is doing it in the sort of, in the pre-pubescent, particularly early childhood, that means chaos in the home.
35:08🔗DrewI mean, that's the way kids try to self-regulate, self-soothe with that, and they just sort of automatically go that direction.
35:14🔗CallerThat may have been. I have a stable home. My parents are still together, all that kind of stuff. But, well, I'm not really sure what it was. It was something that I just started exploring, and it was something that I enjoyed, and didn't even really necessarily understand, and I would never expose anything. All right.
35:37🔗DrewI didn't say expose, I said chaos in the home.
35:39🔗AdamLet me say this, Drew. I'm starting to realize that people have certain capacities, that they show themselves early.
35:46🔗AdamTalents, music, adventure, thrill seeking, whatever. For good or for bad, they start showing themselves at a very early age. Why not sexuality?
35:58🔗DrewIt's possible, but I'm just saying, more often than not, when kids early days, because it's not biologically in the cards usually, it's usually as a way of self stimulating, it's sort of self soothing.
36:09🔗AdamBut there's a lot of other behaviors that show themselves early, that don't seem to be atypical biologically, but yet these kids start showing those signs early. I'm not saying she's going to be a porn star, but I understand.
36:22🔗CallerI understand where Drew is coming from because I really thought about it a lot and been concerned about that because I've seen that in friends of mine and that kind of thing. So I've really thought about it a lot.
36:42🔗AdamWhen I heard it, initiated the BJ, pow, I put 50 pounds on her ass right there. I hate to be sad, but when I hear initiate BJ, you know what I'm saying?
36:53🔗DrewI hear you. She's saying because she wanted to do it.
36:56🔗AdamWhen I just go out and get a BJ, don't get anything returned, that's 20 pounds over when I hear initiate the BJ. Now, we're at 50. That's all. Off to my head. Athletic, yes, Kenny? Bad genetic hand, though.
37:11🔗CallerFat parents. I come from an overweight family, so I've always been chubby, but I've been in sports since I was tiny and all that.
37:18🔗AdamAll you got to do is read. Why don't you just read one of those books, those retarded. See, entire banks will just come out with a book. You just read it, then you learn how to be beautiful.
37:26🔗CallerI should just read about how guys aren't good into me, and how anybody can be a supermodel as long as they just really want to enough.
37:32🔗AdamWell, Cindy Crawford or Tyra Banks will come out with a book on beauty, and then you read it.
38:39🔗DrewRemember the one speaking French fluently? I spoke to her, I was like, yeah, we.
38:44🔗AdamYeah. We had a public- Okay. Listen. All right. Anyway. Point is, is models, the number one beauty tip, it's about how a woman feels. If she feels sexy, she is sexy. That's awesome. What about guys? If we feel sexy, are we sexy?
39:37🔗DrewSouth Park did a great episode about that.
39:38🔗AdamAll right. Just give him your own crappy money. That's all. All he wants is everyone to quit smoking and everyone to start giving money to everyone.
39:46🔗AdamAll right. I don't know what Katie's doing.
39:47🔗DrewKatie wants to know about oral sex. How's it going to be when STDs show up? You giving oral sex, if you were going to get herpes, you would have sores potentially within a day or so, but up to two weeks after. You'd have a sore throat very quickly within a day or two if you had chlamydia. You'd have a shanker within a few days if you had, in a week, if you had syphilis. If you didn't swallow semen, HIV is really not that big an issue. If you did, obviously a check and then six months recheck.
40:16🔗AdamTony, but again, it doesn't matter how big your ass is. You feel beautiful, you are beautiful.
40:35🔗DrewQuite the convo there, kicking each other's rear.
40:37🔗AdamWell, look, just admit you're there because you're hot, and just admit you're hot because you have a genetic hand out to you. Just like you're short. I don't like, okay, here's all I'm saying. To say you did something, to make yourself hot somehow, because when you say you're going to write a book about how to be hot, it suggests that you did something. They always tell us, I was in the ballet when I was younger, that's why I got these toe and legs and stuff like that. I just don't like what it implies because it implies that people that aren't hot are doing something wrong or lazy. These chicks are hot because they are hot. That's it. You can't argue with it. It's going to take them 30 years of doing heroin and eating White Castle to F with it. That's it. It's all genetics everybody. Love of Christ, it's all genetics. It's all it is. We will take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back after this.
41:40🔗CallerYou think getting to the Super Bowl is tough? Try getting past all the gorgeous women inside the August Playboy just to find out who we picked to win the Super Bowl. Playboy's NFL preview on sale now.
42:16🔗AdamYeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-L-F-E-E-1-9-1. Those are the Gorillaz, our favorite band. Eddie Griffin is coming in here later on this week, and then Pennywise. All right, fiance prefers to masturbate over having sex with him. That sounds good. Bill?
43:27🔗AdamI got early bogus from Bill. And then it smoothed out a little, and then it went bogus again. Sorry, Bill. Bill, yeah, making the bogus call.
43:37🔗I'm sorry, guys. I swear to God, everything that's holy, this is true.
43:41🔗And the only reason I can think is there's been maybe three or four times that I have not been able to get her off. And I've never seen a woman get so mad about it, literally. I have no reason to make it up.
43:53🔗AdamAll right. Well, here's the thing. According to the laws of the Geneva Boguosity Convention, we must participate in this phone call to the best of our ability. Now, if she got angry, violently angry, because you're unable to give her an orgasm a couple of times, she has serious issues. And those issues need to be looked into before this relationship progresses. Do you understand?
44:21🔗CallerYeah. We're supposed to be getting married within the next year.
44:24🔗AdamYeah. That is something that I would put on ice, like a lobster for me.
44:45🔗AdamYeah. And you are, here's the thing. You're a good guy. You're a nice guy. She's a little bit older. She has a little more experience than you do, correct?
45:16🔗AdamAnd he just had something come floating along and he grabbed onto it and he ain't letting go. But the reality is, is what came floating along while you thought was good, seemed like, seemed like just a wooden crate that you could grab onto and get some relief from the ocean. Turns out it's filled with rabie infested rats. And you're actually better off floating on the open ocean than you are hanging on to these rats that are attracting sharks and nipping at your fingers as you cling to life. Yes.
46:48🔗AdamOh, my God. It will be a crime to get married. Bill. Yes. Baby Bill, here's the thing, sweetie. This guy, this chick, I should say, has some issues and some baggage. And you, Bill, take it from a guy who used to clean carpets. You know, I mean, I mean, your fraternity, your floor, your commercial floor care for fraternity. Do not listen to me, Bill. Do not get married to this girl this soon. She just got over a divorce.
47:22🔗AdamPlease give it some time. Tell her you want to address these issues. And here's the thing, everybody. If you say to your person, look, I'm not saying we're not getting married. I'm saying I want this marriage to last.
47:37🔗DrewI want to understand why you're doing something strange, like mastermind.
47:39🔗AdamI don't want it to last for 18 months. I want it to last for 200 years.
47:42🔗DrewYou're doing something strange. We have to look into this.
47:45🔗AdamRight. And you know what it's like? It's like if you're at the bank and they say, you know what, Dr. Pinsky, we just want to check, double check your signature card and your ID. If it is, if your signature is on that card, by all means, do your job.
48:03🔗AdamOkay. If she says, by all means, let's get this stuff straightened out before we tie the knot. I don't want to make the same mistake twice. Fine. If she starts freaking, you don't want her. Please listen, Bill.
48:14🔗AdamQuick break. We'll be right back after this. Yeah, it's Love Line, man. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191-ER. Let me give you another phone number if you want to come see my new Comedy Central show, 866-546-6984. 866-546-6984. Let me say this, Drew.
49:49🔗AdamThat's fine. Anderson doesn't pay him. He was like, I can't stand that Anderson. I was like, join the queue, buddy. Get in line. So, he's gay. Super gay. Novelty gay.
50:05🔗DrewNovelty gay. I was at your party and he came in and like chaps and zebra boots and makeup, I think.
50:12🔗AdamYeah. Super novelty gay. Yeah. And I realized, yeah, yeah, good guy. I had him trying to do a couple of things. Once in a while, I try to send him to the hardware store to go pick up something. And then he comes back with the wrong thing. And then I send him back and he brings the wrong thing again. And then I tell him to go rent the carpet cleaner or something like that. And he comes back with the thing. And then I realize, and I always, then I say to my wife, I send him, send Matt down and whatever. And she always goes, hey, he's gay, leave him alone. And that's what everyone says. Now they mean, here's what they mean. That don't mean he's handicapped or he's crippled, but you sent him to go do a straight thing. You see what I'm saying?
50:51🔗AdamYeah, you don't because you're on the radio and people are listening to you. But I'm telling you, let me tell you how society works. You send a gay guy to the hardware store and say, I told the guy to get X, Y, and Z and he came back with P, D, and Q, and people go, what do you expect? He's gay, doesn't know the hardware store.
51:10🔗The whole idea about creating focal points in your room is keeping your eye trained for those little details. It's those little details that make the home yours.
51:20🔗AdamYeah, little details like getting the ribbed butt plug, I suppose, just a smooth one.
51:26🔗I got the message that Matt left me, want to hear it?
51:33🔗CallerAnderson, this is Matt, Adam Corolla's assistant. I got your message. I didn't appreciate it. Clearly, if I failed to understand your name twice, but I can understand everyone else's name when they call, it doesn't seem like it's my problem. It seems like you need to enunciate a little bit better.
51:55🔗DrewOr not be loaded when you call, Anderson.
51:56🔗CallerOr speak lower when you leave a message. I'll pass on that you called to Adam, but I really don't like degrading messages on the voicemail.
52:06🔗AdamWell, that's one thing I like about Matt.
52:22🔗DrewThey need to have a huge eruptions every day.
52:24🔗AdamOh, yeah. No, he has one twice a week. So here's the thing. No, he's got chutzpah because he yells at people. But I realize if you just announce to the world you're gay, you never get that Saturday morning phone call where you got to help your buddy move. Yeah. I know you don't want to participate or go along with me in this one. You don't get that, let's move. You don't get that, we got to go down to the hardware store. You don't get the barn raising phone call. You get left alone. You get cut slack. Oh, yes.
52:56🔗DrewWhat's the reasoning that you're not capable of that or something?
53:00🔗AdamLook, all I know is you start complaining about, go find a gay buddy and tell him, I sent him over to go do this or I told him to go do that. Now, I'm not talking about clerical work. I'm talking about something physical or something that a guy traditionally, not a guy like you, Drew, who calls it a triple A.
53:20🔗AdamBut here's my point. If I said, I sent Drew to the hardware store to get the double A batteries and it came back with triple A batteries, people would say, what's wrong with Drew? If Drew was gay, they'd go, hey, he's gay, leave him alone. That's not his place. I'm just saying, you go gay, you get a gay assistant, you start sending them out to do a bunch of little stuff and they come back with snake eyes and people say a lot of the time, hey, he's gay, that's not his thing, that's not his place. What do you expect? He's not going to go to clean your carpets, he's gay. Do you know what? You're making a face, but I'm telling you.
53:59🔗AdamI'm just telling you, it's not true. Look, if you say go to Kinko's and make some copies, no one's going to say he's gay. If you say go down to Starbucks and get a pound of French roast, no one's going to go, well, he didn't do it right because he's gay. No, it's none of that stuff. But if you say go rent a van or something, anything that's stereotypical heterosexual.
54:20🔗DrewBecause they have no experience doing that?
54:22🔗AdamDon't know. Because society, you know why? I'll tell you why. Because society and they have lumped themselves in with females. By the same reason, if I said to somebody, oh man, we were moving into the new house, my wife, man, I'll tell you, she must have brought a shoe box worth of stuff in over the house. Come on, give her a break. She's a chick. You see what I'm saying? Now, my buddy Ray, my buddy Chris could never get away with that.
54:50🔗AdamYou see, we have relegated the gays into chick territory when it comes to the things like the blue wing.
54:57🔗DrewSo you're saying we're being chauvinistic or we're discriminatory for no good reason. We should be holding them accountable like anybody else.
55:06🔗AdamThey have testicles. They have backs. No, here's what I'm saying. If I was walking along the street and some guy came up and started with me and next thing you know, fists were flying and I said, I was with Ray or Chris, they'd be like, why didn't they jump in? I have your back. But if you say with my gay buddy, they're like, yeah. Now listen, think about it.
55:30🔗DrewYou're not saying that's right. You're saying just that's how people are.
55:32🔗AdamI know you don't want to get involved with this because you don't think it's right. But yes, yes, if I was walking down the street, my assistant Matt and some guy started stuff and the fist started flying, you treat Matt like he was a woman, whereas Ray or Chris or any of my other buddies would not get that same courtesy. You see what I'm saying?
55:53🔗DrewAnd you're talking about people on two ends of a spectrum, too.
55:56🔗AdamWell, that's true. But here's the thing. I realize that gay men, while sort of taking on the heavy ways of a woman, society has now basically identified them as females when it comes to the heavy lifting. Think about it, Drew. You know any gay movers? Gay bouncers?
56:20🔗DrewBut you're going for this gay and the gay.
56:22🔗AdamI guess at a gay nightclub you're going for... I don't know who's gay and who's not gay. All I'm saying, here's what I'm saying, Drew.
56:28🔗DrewBut you're saying that people... Just listen... .stereotypically people would do that.
56:31🔗AdamHere's what I think. What do you think of this? I think a lot of women, able-bodied young women, get away with a lot of playing that, I couldn't lift it card. I didn't want... It's more they didn't want to do it. Right. They just... they're playing that card, the same card I would play. I just didn't want to get up on the ladder and I didn't want to cut the IV, I didn't want to drag the stuff out to the street or I didn't want to move the boxes, I don't know how to work the carpet cleaner, I don't know how to do that. And it's convenient, it's great, they don't have to do it. Fine. I think a lot of gay guys play that card too, and I think we force that hand on them.
57:13🔗DrewSort of reverse discrimination of sorts.
57:16🔗AdamNo, it's not, we're getting screwed. Now we got chicks and gays who can't do anything. Do you see what I'm saying? Let's see, Drew is a guy who does nothing.
57:45🔗AdamYes. Yes, you are no use to anyone including yourself. All you're good for is kicking rocks at the beach. But Drew's nail is a mess by the way. His toenail. All right. So it's easy for you to see their side. I'm just saying close your eyes and just think from a societal standpoint, you just guys and yes, if you're flamboyant, yes, if you're Liberace, nobody blames him for not watching his buddies back in an alley fight or going and moving these boxes or chopping down a tree or something like that.
58:12🔗AdamI'm just saying when you close your eyes and you think about that guy, you don't think of him any differently than you think if you asked your mom to go chop a tree down and then stack the cords of logs in the back of the house.
58:43🔗AdamNo more weekend moves, no more. You know how many phone calls I get just on home improvement stuff? All day, everyone, hey, you got a good, could you come over? Look, I got a good, do you have, can I borrow a, do you got any of a three-eighths or half-inch truck?
58:56🔗AdamOh, that's just the family. That's just gay. The phone would never ring anymore. I just say, you want to come over and have a smart cocktail? Or lounging by the pool. Be awesome. Drew.
59:19🔗CallerYeah. My question is for Drew. Yeah. I went to the doctor and they say that I have an early beginning stage part of bacterial meningitis. They are supposed to go in this up and coming Wednesday to have a spinal tap. I was wondering what kind of, I've heard that there can be a lot of things either go wrong or there could be some trouble with it. I was wondering what kind of things could happen.
59:49🔗DrewNo. Spinal taps are like having your blood drawn.
59:59🔗DrewThey draw fluid from the spine. It's a very simple procedure.
1:00:02🔗AdamWhy do they need the fluid from your spine?
1:00:04🔗DrewThey think he has an infection. They take it out and look at it in a microscope and culture it and look at the protein and sugar content in the spinal fluid.
1:00:13🔗AdamI think the spinal tamp thing freaks people out.
1:00:21🔗DrewLumbar puncture. Usually, they give you a CAT scan beforehand just to double-check things because it can be a serious thing. It was a tumor up there and they do a spinal tap. But be that as it may, it's weird, though, that if they believe you have bacterial meningitis that they wouldn't have done the spinal tap on the spot. That's bizarre. So that's the only thing that's wild about this is that they're waiting.
1:00:47🔗CallerCan they find anything else like drugs in the spinal tap?
1:00:52🔗DrewNo. But if you're having weird neurological problems and you're doing drugs and you don't tell the doctor, you're going to have lots of expensive and painful procedures while they try to figure out what's going on with you and it all turns out to be drugs anyway. So you better tell your doctor what's going on. That is a foolish, foolish mistake.
1:01:09🔗AdamLet me do a little reenactment there. You give me the same speech you just gave, Tony.
1:01:13🔗DrewAll right. You're going to have lots of painful and expensive procedures if you don't tell your doctor. If they think there's something neurological going on with you and you're doing drugs, you don't tell them, that's foolish.
1:01:22🔗AdamOkay. Clearly beaten man at that point. He's obviously done copious amounts of drugs and had no intention of telling anybody about his drug use. Tony, I could tell you've done a lot of drugs when you said hi. Actually, I didn't say hi, but when you said hi. Hello. Okay.
1:01:43🔗AdamYeah. What's up, buddy? You're 18. You're too young for drugs.
1:01:49🔗DrewThe drug, illicit drugs, damage people's brain, cause all kinds of neurological problems. If you're having an evaluation for neurological problems and you don't tell them about that.
1:02:36🔗AdamHere and there. Yeah, so that's here and here.
1:02:39🔗DrewAnd that causes a lot of neurological symptoms as well. So you need to talk to the doctor about these things. It's not like they're going to take you over to the police or that they can even tell your parents. You're 18. It's illegal for them to share that information with anybody.
1:02:49🔗AdamHey, Tony, you do sound affected. You really do.
1:02:55🔗DrewYeah, we hear the pot most of the time.
1:02:56🔗AdamSo what's the plan? I mean, you're 18. You're going to get a job. You're going to go to school.
1:03:05🔗AdamAll right. Well, as long as you're working to be something. Here's the thing with weed. They got to reel it in a little bit. It's too good.
1:03:14🔗AdamNow, here's what I realized, Drew. Yeah. Way back in the day.
1:03:18🔗DrewNo, you had to smoke a lid to get what you get from the joint.
1:03:20🔗AdamMy mom would have to smoke a shoebox full of pot to get half high. Here, when my mom was smoking weed like in the 70s, 60s, 70s, weed was first off, it was the pot leaf. Remember that everyone? It was not the bud. It was the leaf. People smoke pot leaves.
1:03:41🔗DrewThey don't do that anymore? I didn't realize that.
1:04:10🔗DrewNo, I've heard it called the bud and I assumed there was bud in there, but I didn't realize there was no leaf anymore. I don't think there's leaf anymore. I know how powerful it is under the effects, but it's interesting. That's interesting to me.
1:04:28🔗AdamBut here's the thing, the pot leaf, it used to be you would take a pot leaf, you would drive the pot leaf and you would smoke it like you smoke tobacco leaf.
1:04:37🔗AdamAnd there'd be some stem and some seeds and some twigs and crap in there.
1:04:42🔗DrewBut ceremonial clean the pot, remember that?
1:04:44🔗AdamYeah, that's what the lid of the shoebox is for, is pick all the seeds and stems and all that. But the point is, is that stuff was nothing compared to what's out there. Now, it's all purple and sticky and hairy. It's a disaster. Now, here's what I'm saying, science has gotten way too far ahead of us.
1:05:04🔗DrewListen, it's the same thing as any other form of addiction. The addictions get more serious the more we altered chemicals. So when we came up with heroin, we came up with cocaine, when we came up with Valium and Xanax, people get more addicted. More and more. Now, they're changing the pot, making it more powerful.
1:05:20🔗AdamHere's all I want. I don't want to be Squaresville. I want to toke out when I'm hanging with the cool people. But it's so potent now that I can barely handle it.
1:05:40🔗AdamYou know what I mean? This is grain alcohol. And I don't want to get that effed up. But I wouldn't mind carrying around a Zima, equivalent to the pot.
1:05:51🔗AdamYeah, I just, I want to get a nice buzz going, but I don't want to spin out of control. See what I'm saying? So, if somebody could go ahead and create a weed that was, you know, they're working on the most potent stuff. I'd like them to work on some intermediate stuff.
1:06:06🔗DrewSo I can blow some spleef. Why don't you go easy on the dose? It might take a half a hit or something.
1:06:10🔗AdamYou know what? It's tough, especially when it's administered through the bong. Yeah. Because then it's like, the next thing you know, it's like, oh, pop the carb, oh, what's your cough? And now, now you're dead.
1:06:35🔗AdamNow, all I'm saying is, if they could cut it with a little flower or something, literally flowers, they just put some potpourri or something, some oregano. I mean, I know it's like, it used to be the stuff you try to sell as pot. I need some of that stuff back in there, some parsley or something, thin it out just a little bit, and give me a shot. It's too good. It's scary.
1:06:58🔗DrewI'm just confused why you can't take like a little bit.
1:07:01🔗AdamWell, first off, do you know what you look like when someone gives you a bong and you're like, and they're still big? First off, you don't pop the bowl and the chamber's all filled with stuff.
1:07:44🔗OK, so I have a question about phone sex etiquette. I want to know if there's sort of an expected turnaround phone call time limit, sort of an Emily Post of phone sex.
1:08:00🔗DrewUsually, I understand. It's usually with somebody you know very well. You're trying to maintain a long distance.
1:08:11🔗I got a phone call, a wrong phone number. Yeah. I called it back and it was somebody who I thought sounded attractive and we just started talking. Then after a few days, we ended up having phone sex.
1:08:56🔗AdamHere's what people do. People come home, check their phone numbers, see a number that they don't recognize and call it back, or get hung up on or something. You know, you pick up the phone and it's just, it hangs up.
1:09:31🔗AdamYeah, they're expecting a chick's voice and they got me. Yeah. I really don't want to talk to those people. I want to talk to them less. Right. Then the next guy is going to call. I'm not really going to want to talk to you, but has to talk to me. That is a weird impulse when you call those people back. Why did you call that person back?
1:09:49🔗Because I was bored on the beach and we were drunk and we thought it was funny.
1:09:54🔗AdamOh, just put another 20 pounds on. Then you got a guy and you have a crush on this guy, right?
1:10:22🔗No, no. I don't want him to call back. It's not a matter of wanting him to call back. It's a matter of just sort of now rehashing it and wondering...
1:10:32🔗DrewWhy would you owe this guy something? Do you owe him something? You have no relationship. You're not attracted to him. You don't want to know him. You had this thing as a...
1:10:39🔗I'm not saying I owe him or he owes me or any...
1:11:15🔗AdamAnd when women are intrigued, they ask questions and they make statements and oftentimes they say, I don't care. I'm not interested. I'm not into him. But yet they're bringing it up.
1:11:23🔗DrewI think she's a little compulsive is what it is.
1:12:54🔗AdamI know. She's a little nutty too though. My call shrinks. All right. Look, here's all I'm saying. There are no rules. Just right, as they say, the Outback Steakhouse. But here's the thing. If you want to call this guy back and diddle yourself, I will not judge. No, I'm not. All right. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I had a weird thing like this happen to me when I was like 21.
1:13:21🔗AdamI had some chick call. And I had to this day have no idea. If you go back and take a look at your life, there's probably, if you'd led a fairly interesting life, moved around a little, seen a few people, done a few things. There's probably 20 things where you just couldn't explain them. Some from childhood, some from adult, like you think as you go back and go over it in your mind's eye, you think, I have no idea why that person did that, or who called who, or if that was a coincidence, were they screwing with me, or were they stalking me, or did I know them? Chick called in my apartment. I must have just talked to her, and I think she just wanted to have phone sex. I wasn't about phone sex. I was like, bring it on over. Let me have a look at you. She was like, she just wanted the phone. I promise you I'm hot, but let's have phone sex kind of thing. I was like, well, if you're hot, you got nothing to hide, come on down. You're really sound, come on. I was rock bottom in my life because it was age zero to 30. So I was at rock bottom. For those years. Yeah, for those 30 years. I never called her. She said she was a nursing student, said she lived in Bel Air, described herself like 30,000 times. I just kept saying, look, I'm just coming over there, let's go. And she never went. And she did. And eventually I went to go find her. Like she told me to go meet her somewhere. And I went. She was never there. I don't think I ever heard from her again. And I have no idea what it was.
1:14:58🔗AdamI don't know if it started as a wrong number. I don't know if she somehow knew me. I don't know if someone put her up to it. It went on for months. I didn't never want to do the phone.
1:15:06🔗DrewShe's listening. She should call in now. See if you can identify her.
1:15:08🔗AdamNever want to do the phone sex thing. Drew is a man of passion. As a man of passion, I could make arguments for you doing the phone sex thing.
1:15:16🔗AdamBut, no. You and I are very much akin in many sexual sides of the bed. No, we're not into the cornhole. We don't want to talk about it. To me, you know what phone sex is like to me? It's like if I was in prison and I said, where are you, Drew? And you said, oh, I'm at a Ruth Chris steakhouse. And I said, read me the menu.
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1:17:21🔗AdamOf course, those Durex condoms are going to come in the Party Pack. Each night this week, Dr. Drew is going to decide on the best call of the night, and that person is going to win himself a Party Pack. The winner must be 18 years or older to win, brought to you by Durex. They're sex, and then there's Durex. And now, it is time to play a little something we call Germany or Florida. Ricky?
1:18:27🔗CallerHere we go. Germany or Florida, a man earned the title of the vampire rapist after he picked up a young female hitchhiker, and while holding her prisoner over a 22-hour period, raped her and then used a needle and tubing to drain and a considerable portion of her blood into a jar, which he then consumed. Some miracle, the woman, even though weakened by the loss of blood, escaped and the man was subsequently arrested and sent to 25 years in prison. Germany or Florida.
1:19:20🔗AdamYeah, yeah. Yeah, rape and dump. R&D they call it. And I know a lot of people who know big businesses have an R&D department. It's different.
1:19:30🔗AdamBut in- Yes, if they're in Florida. Oh, if you're talking to a big company, even Disney, and they talk about R&D, they're talking about rape and dump. All right. Ricky?
1:22:04🔗DrewThere isn't one. There isn't one. Some men, and I mean a small minority, like their prostate massage. There's a larger minority that like the outside of the Tokai and stimulate it a little bit. But it's very unusual to like things put up there. That's unusual. So do not believe the crap that's in the women's magazines about that.
1:22:34🔗AdamAll right. All right, Spunky. She started off Spunky, but she got a little drunky later on in the call.
1:23:38🔗DrewI mean, everything from abnormalities of the ducts that lead out of the seminal vesicles, abnormalities of the testes, abnormalities of semen production, abnormalities of hormonal. Are you otherwise normal in terms of height, stature, hair distribution, that kind of thing?
1:24:52🔗DrewWell, this is going to take some work. You're going to need MRIs. I mean, this is going to take some time. You've got to see a urologist and probably a neurologist.
1:25:46🔗DrewNo. You all right? You okay, Adam? A year.
1:25:48🔗AdamNo. I mean, I'm not a man of passion, but one who's absorbed some of your passion.
1:25:55🔗DrewWell, no. On my Discovery Health Show, that's strictly a sex show, we had a urologist on where I said, look, what if you had a man that wasn't ejaculating? It's like, oh, my goodness. I mean, stuff's not coming out of him. That is a biological problem. We got to work that out. All right.
1:26:08🔗AdamEspecially 21. I will take a quick break, be right back after this. You guys know the system of it now. All right, let's get back to the phone. So, what do we say there, Drew? There we go. Talk to Callie. Callie 16. Callie?
1:27:55🔗AdamWell, first off, what the, here's what happens. Here's what happens with these white trash broods is everyone starts crashing at everyone's place, uncle's and uncle's buddies and everyone's just sleeping over in the same 1200 square foot house and then there's boos and then there's trouble. No. Why is your uncle sleeping over there? Why is he sleeping over there with his friend?
1:29:43🔗DrewIt is, but this way. Women, although they're five times more likely than men to get cirrhosis, could drink their whole life and not get cirrhosis.
1:29:50🔗AdamWomen are five times more likely than men? Five times.
1:30:23🔗DrewKelly, where did you get the morning after pill?
1:30:25🔗CallerMy cousin had it. She moved to Utah, and when she left, she left all of her stuff, and she had it in her stuff. I found it in her top drawer.
1:32:24🔗AdamHe called the police and police showed up, but you didn't tell the police you had sex with anyone?
1:32:29🔗CallerI didn't really, because this happened before and I didn't really.
1:32:34🔗AdamNo, no. All right. Hold on a second. See, this is, it's coming into focus for me. Because when we said three minutes ago on the call, oh, you went to the police, oh, good for you. I thought, no, wait a minute. Yeah. She didn't. This poor chick who's been victimized her whole life with the alcoholic mom, the drugs, and the abs, and the dance, and her just picking herself up and going to the cops after being victimized. This did not make sense at all to me. But I just said, screw it, we did the right thing, let's keep moving. Didn't make sense. Now the cops showing up at the house or at the trailer, that makes sense to me.
1:33:41🔗DrewYou've shown a tiny bit of willingness to come to your own defense. That was by taking that morning after pill and not just sort of letting things happen.
1:33:50🔗CallerWell, that's because I don't want a baby.
1:33:52🔗DrewI know, but you came to your own defense that way. Let that be the beginning of a whole procedure that you follow where you get help, get support, start taking care of yourself, just a tiny step forward.
1:34:04🔗AdamI'm sorry for what's happened to you, but now you're going to have to take control of your life and get yourself some help.
1:34:10🔗CallerYeah, I'm doing counseling. I do group and I do the one-on-one.
1:34:15🔗DrewGood. Keep it going. Tell them what happened. They may still need to report it just to sort of get you used to defending yourself. Nothing will happen. It's still important that you come to your own defense.
1:34:25🔗AdamIt is so amazing when stuff doesn't make sense. Yeah. But it just didn't make sense for a second that this voice, that this victim with the uncle and the alcohol and the old guy and everything, just would just pick up and go to the police. Just did not for a heartbeat did it fit in. Now, we don't like the profile.
1:34:53🔗AdamOr understand people or try to figure out something that might happen before. Before the tragedy happens. Other than that, other than those things.
1:35:00🔗AdamYeah, other than trying not to get swarthy guys from Middle East to fly airplanes into the sides.
1:35:05🔗DrewAnd or victims to be victimized by victims and victimizers.
1:35:08🔗AdamYeah, profiling is horrible unless you want to prevent that stuff from happening in advance. Other than that, it's a horrible, horrible thing that shouldn't be tolerated by society except for the part where you actually save tons of people lives and you save people from being victimized over and over again. Other than that, horrible thing is profile. So, that's really the one thing you could say for it. The one thing you might be able to say for profiling, other than that, is the folks at World Trade Center may still be around. But other than that, there's really nothing you could say about it. So, it's a bad thing, yes?
1:35:38🔗AdamJudging is like profiling. They're both impossible to do. All right. Anyway, we'll be back. That's the show, everyone. Thanks for tagging along. Eddie Griffin from Deuce Bigelow coming in a little bit later. This week, that's fine.
1:36:51🔗AdamOh, Rob Thursday. That's right. All right. So until next time, it's Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. I choose to be a blowhard who has no actual information, you see.
1:37:04🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Aningold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.