1:26🔗VoiceoverHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew is a board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist. Tonight, we welcome to the show for the first time. What shall I call you? What title should I, other than James?
1:46🔗AdamSpiritual medium. That's good. That's good. It's solid. A lot of people get, a lot of folks get uptight. We call them a psychic. They don't like it. They call it medium. They don't like it.
1:55🔗James Van PraaghPsycho is more like it for me.
1:57🔗AdamChipsy. They don't like it. I'm going to write down spiritual medium on the other side. You remember that show which was on for a couple seasons. How many seasons was that?
2:07🔗James Van PraaghTwo years. It's a couple of seasons. Very good.
2:10🔗AdamI did watch, well, here's the whole thing about the whole psychic thing and the spiritual medium and all that stuff is, nobody wants to believe it until the person says, let me tell you something I know about you, and then everyone shuts up and they become all ears. Now, that's, I guess, a narcissism, but possibly a healthy narcissism that all people have. Drew's wife had a psychic at her party or maybe Drew's party a couple of years back, and everyone in the party just stood in line the entire time. Left Drew and I just standing there by the punch ball, crying, talking about Loveline. There was a line going out the pool cabana where people actually got into it with somebody. Remember, I wanted to get a reading and they wanted to get a second reading and I was like, I got to go and they're like, I will get my third reading. My dog hasn't been read. They ended up leaving without my reading. Who knows what fortunes I missed out on? One of your wife's dopey friends. The point is, James, in general, I don't believe in this stuff, but we do have lots of weird things that go on in the show. We have had people in the past tell us things that we couldn't explain. Some people are better than others. I will definitely tell you that.
3:43🔗AdamSuper sacchariney sweet spirit. Sweet spirit. Lap dog, traveling companion, old jag going on a cruise. Sweet, sweet, sweet spirit. But we've had people in here that just do this one where they go, they throw out a name, you tell them, look, there's nobody I know by that name and they tell you, think about it. You say, look, I don't have to do it. You give me the name Elroy, I'm going to tell you, I don't work with anyone, no one in my family, don't know anyone. Think about it. Don't need to think about it. Any more and you need to think about a name you've never heard of.
4:16🔗James Van PraaghOnce in New York, it was funny, I was in an audience like 200 people. Some people get psychic amnesia, some people that want to hear one thing, but you give them something else and they don't understand what you're throwing at them. I said, this lady's here, her mother, and you know this lady, the guy was yes, I think so. She wants to tell her to Tom, do you know what Tom? He goes, no, no, and the wife is hitting him. Honey, that's your name. Stuff like that happens a lot too.
4:39🔗AdamI would become the verbally abusive psychic once I found out.
4:43🔗James Van PraaghI start throwing things at him.
4:44🔗AdamYeah, I'd be like, Tom, and once I found out it was his name, I'd say, you don't know your own god damn name? I curse you to hell, and I would have a thunderclap, and a sparkler go off just to freak everyone out.
4:55🔗DrewWhatever fashion you chose, Adam, you'd be the abusive, fill the blank.
5:04🔗AdamYes, rehab specialist, work with a handicap. You just fill whatever that special needs teacher, whatever it is, you just put abusive in front of that.
5:14🔗James Van PraaghSo I'm going to tell you, I'm a big fan of this show. I've been listening to it for years.
6:07🔗AdamAnd she forces people to call her Love, which I like. I don't know if she's done that.
6:12🔗James Van PraaghBut that was her name. She was born with that name. And then Jennifer, yeah, that's what she was born with. Her name was Love. That's the name she gave her. But then Hollywood has said Jennifer. They want to call her Jennifer.
6:36🔗AdamVery bright. And a tall glass of Nubian warrior shit. She's like a big brown milkshake.
6:43🔗James Van PraaghWell, can I use that in the press?
6:46🔗AdamShe's a good looking lady. She's sassy. She's smart. I mean, yeah, you couldn't have done much better on Aisha Tyler and Jennifer Love Hewitt.
6:55🔗AdamAnd so now you're the executive producer of Ghost Whisperer, which coming on CBS on Fridays at 8 o'clock, which I've been seeing a pretty big push for. Oh, yeah. So do you look at yourself as sort of technical advisers?
7:09🔗James Van PraaghYeah, exactly. What happens is I came up with this idea at a TV show about two years ago called Beyond. It was a daytime series. And we had a section on that show with paranormal specialists. And one of the producers found this lady in Cleveland who's a real ghost buster. Now, me being the skeptic, which believe it or not, I am a very skeptical people that say they can do these sorts of things.
7:28🔗AdamYeah, it's like Drew's that way with doctors. He thinks they're all so-so-bones. He hates them all.
7:32🔗James Van PraaghYou have to be, though. Especially in this field.
7:33🔗AdamThat's the way I am with Ty Pennington. I'm a carpenter, but I don't believe this guy's a real carpenter.
7:38🔗AdamThat's what happens. All right, so you're the same.
7:40🔗James Van PraaghYeah, exactly. So I was very skeptical and I tested these people. And I met her and we went to Oklahoma, this house in Oklahoma, which was haunted supposedly. She gave names to people that were haunting it, the graveyard they buried in, stuff you couldn't find on a computer or anything. It's like, come on, you can find this on a computer.
8:07🔗James Van PraaghWell, they have to be having birth. I'm giving birth, you have to be someone instinctive and intuitive. You have to be for survival and so with children.
8:13🔗DrewYou think it's all that part of our brain, that right part?
8:15🔗James Van PraaghI think it's part of it. Certainly, I think that's part of it, a good part of it. I think it's your make up in general as a whole, but definitely women, the survival instinct and definitely that's a big, big part.
8:24🔗James Van PraaghAnd women are much more feeling, they can more with their emotions, or men are more left brain, women are more going to be right brain.
8:29🔗AdamThe guys feel like sharks do with their mouth. You know what I mean? They always do that. Sharks just testing you out, just want to see what you're made of. I got no leg. Yeah, yeah, just testing you out. I had no other way you could do that. Yeah, no, he didn't mean anything. Worse, I have no leg.
8:44🔗AdamHe wasn't hungry. I feel worse. I have no leg now. I wish he'd eaten my leg. This is like killing a chicken and just shooting it into a jet engine to test the propeller blades. It's like what kind of, and then what happens?
8:57🔗AdamDoes your leg have a soul, by the way, or is that all in your brain? You know what I mean? What if a shark gets your leg? They get like 20 percent of your soul?
9:04🔗James Van PraaghYou know what I'm saying? Well, you have a spirit body, which is in the physical body. It's just a-
9:10🔗AdamThe shark, that's the one the shark eats.
9:33🔗AdamWe're intuitive. We're intuitive, yes. But a lot of that intuition is based on repetition. We hear what people's voices sound like and your mind starts to categorize.
9:46🔗James Van PraaghI've heard you guys all the time and you are intuitive because there's a part of you which is your senses, which your sight is shut off because you don't see the people, but you hear their voice.
10:03🔗James Van PraaghAnd yes, you've heard cases and certain cases repeat themselves and certain behavior. But you have intuitive stuff. I mean, you go to bets about people's behavior and you're right on. Well, so then the part that's intuitive and part of it might be from doing it all the time.
10:16🔗AdamSo the question is about this stuff, because I, you know, there's a hocus pocus side of this that I want no part of. But then there's a part that I think there are parts of the brain that are unknown or untapped into that have little spikes and flashes and show themselves every once in a while. And I feel it on the show. We're just talking along to somebody and I say, I just bring up Batting Cage or something out of nowhere, and it turns out the chick's boyfriend works at a batting cage.
10:47🔗AdamI don't know why it jumped into my head. It wasn't something we talked about earlier.
10:50🔗DrewWhat's more mysterious is the girl he raises this with doesn't seem at all impressed.
10:54🔗AdamThat's the part that's truly mysterious. That's the part they do a TV show on. Yeah, the Tard Whisperer. I bring up the fact that her boyfriend works at a batting cage, and she just blows it off and keeps moving. She goes, yeah, that's my boyfriend. Anyway. Ten minutes later, I go, seriously, what's the guy do for a living? She's like, works at a batting cage.
11:11🔗AdamYou don't want to bring it up the first time.
11:13🔗James Van PraaghWell, I have to throw at you, which is I tell people this too, especially working radio and television. You're working in radio, so you're sending out your voice into the air. But you look up the air, you don't see your voice there, but yet people receive it on the receivers. So what is that about? Just because you don't see the voice in the airwaves, it doesn't exist. So I tell people that because we're so used to a physical world, in a three-dimensional world, you have to see, feeling the five senses, but there's things that exist you don't see. So that doesn't exist.
11:36🔗AdamSo now you believe, you communicate with people that have passed on, right?
11:43🔗James Van PraaghCorrect. Out of the physical dimension.
11:45🔗AdamRight. What's left behind is the spiritual body, let's just call it, and does it go somewhere, or is it here amongst us?
11:57🔗AdamI never know if you're up looking down, you're down looking up, where are you?
12:01🔗James Van PraaghDepends different with different people. The show I'm doing, this Ghost Whisperer, is based on earthbound spirits. So there are those spirits who pass out of the body, everybody passes out of their body when they die. Right. These people are some people who haven't finished, maybe it's unfinished business, maybe something's not resolved. Supposedly, there's a light for everybody when they pass out of the body, and they go to that light, but there are some people that don't, they stay earthbound. Right. But then there are most people go into the light, and they see relatives standing there, and people that near to the experiences and so forth, they've described this light, this sort of thing, and what happens is this dimension, if you will, is all around us, it's interdimensional. So fourth, fifth, sixth dimension, interdimensional, and I'm able to attune myself to that higher dimension, if you will.
12:41🔗James Van PraaghYou know the movie Sixth Sense? Yeah. That was my story. You were a kid. You were a kid. That was my story. I was a kid like that. I used to see spirit as a kid. I see lights around people, colors around people, which are the aura, and I didn't know what it was, and I thought, I'm from New York, and I was thinking, what is going on here? I thought everybody could see these things. I said to my mom, who are those people with the lights behind them? She goes, you see them too? She goes, those are God's angels. Don't worry. I used to see them when I was a little girl. They will always take care of you and protect you. So I never was raised with a sense of this is weird, or this is unnatural. To me, it was very natural, and the people that didn't see these things, I thought they were weird. So I was raised with it. It was never a fear thing with me at all. I remember in first grade, I said to my teacher, six years old, and I said to my teacher, I walked up to her, I said, your son John just got hit by a car. But don't worry, he's going to be OK. He just broke his leg. And she goes, go back to your seat. And five minutes later, the principal comes in, she pulls her out of the room, teacher, she comes back, and she starts crying. She goes, James, come here. I said, yes. She goes, how did you know that? How did you know that? And I started crying, thinking I created it with my thoughts. As a kid, you think this. And she really saved my life. She really helped me that lady because she said, listen, God gives people certain gifts or abilities of doing something. Maybe one day you'll help people with his abilities. So don't worry about it. So just think if she was, and I was in Catholic school.
14:12🔗AdamSo you've always had this. You've always seen this.
14:15🔗James Van PraaghSo as a kid, I shut down around puberty because I was thinking of other things in those days. Sure. Then I moved out here to be a sitcom writer in my early 20s because I'm funny. So I thought I'll just pursue that.
14:25🔗AdamYou don't have to be funny to write a sitcom.
14:31🔗James Van PraaghIt can hurt you. I was working at the time at a talent agency, William Morris Agency, which is funny. He's in the basement playing staples at a contract, eight hours a day. Wow. Not even in the mail room. I was below the mail room.
14:50🔗James Van PraaghBut he's in these contracts with Lucio Ball and Groucho Morris. That's kind of cool. Maybe I got to be here for some reason. I feel like I got to be here for some reason. Maybe I'll need an agent. He'll get me a sitcom. I met a lady there and she said, do you want to go see a medium? I said, what the heck is that? He said, he's someone who talks to the dead. I said, you know what? I really don't believe in that. I think it's a bunch of crap. I don't believe it.
15:05🔗James Van PraaghI was raised Catholic. I was about 24, 23, 24. I said, would you go with me? I said, yeah, all right, fine. I'll just make fun of the guy, whatever. I walk in the room, the guy goes, you're a medium. I said, well, thank you. I'm kind of short, but thank you. But he goes, no, in two years' time, the spirit people want to use you. You're a sensitive. You have this ability. I said, I don't know about that. But he did a reading. He brought through people that my family passed over. Things about me no one knew about. It was like blew me away. That's the thing, right? Where's that guy? He's in Reseda, California. Still here, still doing his thing. Yeah, still doing his thing. Once a week, now he has group meetings. Anyway, I was then promoted to a job at Paramount in the contract department. Not in the basement, but actually the syndication department.
15:45🔗DrewNot in the staple of the contract, the actual contract.
15:46🔗James Van PraaghActual contract department. There was a girl there and she was doing astrology and it was weird. I looked over her and I saw this lady standing behind her. This thought came to me about Idaho and a yellow house with white shutters and needle point or something and I was like, what the heck? I said, you know, Joe, do you understand this lady here? You might think this is weird, but you know, what do you think of this? And this Idaho and this. She goes, wow, I can't believe you're saying this. She said, every summer I go to my grandmother in a house in Idaho, yellow house with white shutters. And the last thing she did was teach me how to do needle point. And she made a promise to me that if she could ever come back, she had to say hello to me. She would tell me so. And I was like freaked me out.
16:24🔗AdamSo the feeling is that this person is in the presence of her granddaughter. Or is it that her granddaughter is exuding it?
16:35🔗James Van PraaghNo. So you know when you're walking, you feel like someone is standing behind you. Is that a sense?
16:44🔗James Van PraaghI don't know where you go to the urinals, but I would change. I don't know. Is that a sense? Describe it to people. That's a sense that you have.
16:51🔗DrewBut you were saying, is it possibly something that the individual is exuding from their past that you picked up on?
16:56🔗AdamCould they be like a projector and you're the screen? Which means there's not an actual person there. You're just coming off them like they ate garlic.
17:05🔗DrewJust the way we hear abuse and stuff. You see they're the people that went important in their life.
17:09🔗James Van PraaghI also saw some mind reading. Maybe it's mind reading. Maybe something they're projecting out from their past. Maybe it's that sort of thing. I thought that too, because I'm very analytical and very skeptical. But then information would come through that that person knew nothing about, like, family history. I remember when there was adoption, I said someone said it was a Mercy Hospital or something, and it was this person where they were. Weird stuff that they would not know about, and they went home and checked it, so it's not even within their reality. So that's what blew me away.
17:33🔗AdamWell, I would argue, though, there's still a way, as long as we're talking about different levels that are not known, that people know things that they don't know or have a way of exuding things that they don't know they're exuding.
17:47🔗James Van PraaghThere's different levels of consciousness. So there's different levels of consciousness. And the consciousness, which we really got to understand, is outside the body. So your conscious is not limited to the physical body. The conscious is outside the physical body as well.
17:58🔗AdamWhat do you see anything off, Drew? She got an aura. What color is this aura?
18:01🔗DrewIt makes me anxious. It makes me nervous.
18:04🔗James Van PraaghI see you writing, I don't know if you're going to write another book or you're thinking about writing a book. There's a book around you, really strong.
18:32🔗James Van PraaghNo, don't. I don't even remember I said this. A lot of people have to be like years later. You told me. I remember very strongly. Some lady comes up to me at a party. She goes, you told me that I was going to have a tumor in my left fallopian tube. I said, what? She goes, yes. She told me I had a fibroid cyst. I said, really? She goes, yes. She goes, I don't believe you. Then she goes, I just came from the doctor. I don't remember what I get. It comes in and goes out so quick. That's not my stuff.
18:53🔗AdamThat's a good question, which is negative news. By the way, I would argue that Drew doesn't have an aura but a borah. It's a boring, super boring aura. You can see it's a brown haze that floats around his head. He's a teacher, a teacher. So now, one part about the whole psychic thing is, they do that thing where it's like the one goes over to Drew's place, he sees all the yenthas at the party. She does 30 readings and everything's positive. You think to yourself, well, come on now, someone's got to get in a car crash. Someone's kid's going to get a disease. I mean, as long as you're looking down the road, and we're all going to die, some sooner, some later, and there's going to be some tragedy, times 30, 50-year-old women, there's going to be something there. How come we don't hear about that? Of course, they're going to freak anybody out. I think these people don't want the messenger to get punished, and they figure if they start talking crap, they're not going to invite it back, and freak everyone, people are going to start crying.
19:55🔗James Van PraaghWell, in my work, what do you see? It's in my work, what I feel is the responsibility of what you do. With this type of work, you have people, just like your type of work, you have people there that are listening to you, they're vulnerable, and you have to be responsible. And my agreement with the spirit world, when I started doing this work, was if you give it to me, I gotta give it out. Now it's up to me, as how I'm gonna give this out. Like there are people out there irresponsible, saying you're gonna die next week, or whatever, wrong, wrong thing to say. So you say, have you been to the doctor lately? Have you been something checked up? You gotta be very careful, and you gotta be responsible. And a lot of people are out there who aren't responsible. And that's the ones who I, you know.
20:30🔗AdamSo you would send somebody, you would tell somebody to go get checked up.
20:34🔗James Van PraaghOh yeah, I've saved lives of people.
20:35🔗AdamTell them to go get, and what if they laughed it off?
20:40🔗AdamYou wouldn't feel like, I don't know, like you have to intervene.
20:43🔗James Van PraaghThat's not my job. My job is to give the information out, whether they take it or not, that's fine. If they believe it or not, that's fine. I don't care.
21:12🔗James Van PraaghWell, let's see, with you, I feel there's a creative part of you, which has not even been expressed yet. It's like not even.
21:17🔗AdamNo, you know what? I think it's the opposite. I feel tapped out creatively. I feel like I had anything left.
21:21🔗James Van PraaghYou're really good with color, like putting colors or designing something to color, like in a room or putting things together. I think you haven't done that yet. You really want to, you still haven't done it yet with color and paint, they're designing a room. I feel almost like I want to paint or I want to do something with like, paint your hang up, that's everything.
21:53🔗James Van PraaghYou're like a Gemini type of personality, two different personalities. And you get pulled in a lot emotionally with stuff. Later you say, oh shoot, I shouldn't have done that. My emotions ran into it and I shouldn't have.
22:03🔗AdamI run a little at the mouth, but no, actually-
22:05🔗James Van PraaghBut then you analyze things after that. So there's the emotional, then there's the analytical. I shouldn't have done that. What do I do that for? That whole thing happens.
22:12🔗AdamNo, I'm going to go with no. Drew, you know me. What do you think?
22:35🔗James Van PraaghYou learn by all the little things. You do many things where some people learn something from beginning, middle, and end of it. You just scratch the surface and move on to something else. Because you're bored very quickly. Go, go, go, go.
22:57🔗AdamIf that were true, Drew would have been gone a long, long time ago.
23:00🔗DrewWhat you say, but if it were more than two hours, that'd be it. You wouldn't handle it.
23:03🔗AdamOh, that's true. Yeah. All right. What name is that? Angela. Angela? Yeah. Angela, yeah. I don't know why I didn't read it to me. Angela, you're 26. What's up?
23:13🔗CallerI'm 26. Well, I have an issue. I've been with my boyfriend for four and a half years. I've been raising his six-year-old since she was one, and we have two together. He recently, in the last about four months, well, about four months ago, he went to a concert in a different town. Well, he spent the night spending large amounts of money at strip clubs. Then I found the receipts from it.
23:44🔗CallerActually, he was through it from his checking account.
23:50🔗DrewWell, how does the receipt work? Does it identify as a strip club?
23:55🔗AdamThey'll usually just say like Bistro or something generic on there. I know. They don't want to humiliate you. They don't have Cheetos or crazy girls. Doesn't show up like glitter paint on your amics.
24:08🔗CallerWell, I have a friend that lives in the town that he went to, and I asked her what it was, and she was like, well, it was a strip club.
24:14🔗AdamOkay. So what was it called just out of curiosity?
24:27🔗CallerGood morning. He proceeded to lie to me and tell me all these crazy stories, and I didn't let him know I knew until finally I was just like what Lyon.
24:36🔗AdamAll right. So here's the question. Did he go there with a group of guys?
24:40🔗CallerHe went there with one of his male friends.
24:45🔗AdamTo me, the only reason I say that because there's a huge difference that women would probably not recognize in six or eight guys going to a strip club and you going solo. You going solo and dropping some bucks and staying there all night, you got something going on.
24:59🔗DrewAnd by the way, that's not a part time gig.
25:01🔗AdamNo. You going with a group of guys, that means far less. And there's a bunch of stuff like that that women don't actually know about. Yeah, that is definitely one of them. So how much did he spend by the way?
25:18🔗AdamIt would have been a light night for me and Jimmy.
25:19🔗DrewOh, have you ever made it in with less than that? Jimmy especially.
25:25🔗CallerWell, it's an issue for me because for one, he's an alcoholic. He's an abusive alcoholic. He tears up. He abuses himself more than anything.
26:36🔗AdamYeah. So, your kids will have that when you kick this guy out.
26:39🔗DrewHere's the only thing that you can do. Don't worry about the strip club. This is part of his alcoholism and his compulsive arousing pursuits that he's into. You can go to Al-Anon. You can get a sponsor. You can work the 12 steps. And you then will not engage, or you can get yourself a counselor. It's a little bit more expensive that way. But you then will disengage from this dance. Okay, go to Al-Anon. Look, and then he needs to do something about his alcoholism. That's it, but you can't control that and you can't make him get better.
27:03🔗AdamLook, I'll tell you my feeling. Quite honestly, I don't want people like this. I'm not sure what Angela's going to do. I just want her frozen. I don't want to kill her, but I don't think she's going to heed anything you tell her. I don't think she's going to go to Al-Anon. She's going to stick with this guy. There's going to be more chaos. More kids. These kids are going to experience more chaos. Then the kids are going to start spinning out. Then they're going to become our problem because they're going to get into drugs, they're going to get into crime, they're going to get into prostitution, and then they become society's problems. We as a society are not interested in addressing this at all. Everyone close your eyes and picture an election year where anything was even touched on even closely. About the closest those pussies ever get to anything is no child left behind, which doesn't mean ass to anybody. It's just an antiquated sort of ism that just sounds nice. It doesn't mean anything. It's like saying no to drugs. That's the best you idiots could do. Say no to drugs, no child left behind. Is that your plan? What's your plan for terrorism? Knock it off? Yeah. You know what I mean? No, you got to fire up the Hummer and get the hell over there and start kicking some ass. Here come up the plan. You can't just go ahead and do the right thing, you junkies. Go ahead and do the right thing, you abuse survivors. It makes me sick. I mean, I understand there's going to be Angela.
28:27🔗DrewYou know, A, first of all, everything happens for a reason.
28:29🔗DrewB, you got to choose to get over these things.
28:31🔗AdamYeah. I just wonder about the people that guide this country. I just wonder why it's never an issue, why it's never addressed. So it's almost taboo to delve into anything that has any relevance at all. Unless it's just some worn out cliché you want to crap out onto a microphone by saying, no child let behind. Yeah, I believe that everything, but my ass. Go do something about it.
29:06🔗James Van PraaghWe're fearful of it. And I also think people don't want to take responsibility. So it's much easier just saying these things and not doing the action that need it. It's needed.
29:13🔗AdamWell, yeah. I mean, of course, of course, everyone's a mess. I just, I just, I just really blame the folks that are in charge who should be making creating decisions and creating forces that affect this so that our future, so our kid doesn't get stabbed by her kid.
29:29🔗James Van PraaghBut you know, then also Adam, she has a choice to make. So it's up to her. I mean, yeah, we can blame the government. But it comes down to her too now.
29:36🔗AdamNo, yeah, I don't want to say I blame the government. And she does have a choice. But here's the deal. When a large percentage of the population has a choice, and they're all making the wrong choice, then we got to intervene. Because we left it up to them to make a choice, and they made a bad choice. It's like saying, don't lock your store door. Leave the store open at night. People have a choice. No, no, bolt it up.
29:58🔗DrewIf you don't, we're going to have to see what we do.
30:00🔗AdamYeah, get on the roof like a Korean. That 30 at 6. That's his choice. All right. Here we go. Let's take a break. Yeah.
30:12🔗AdamPowerful gun. James Van Praagh is here tonight. Got a little show called The Ghost Whisperer. I, it's funny that the mind works. My wife just told me, speaking of a psychic, she says, you got to get that dog whisperer on the show. She blurts out tonight for no good reason. And I was like, I don't want that idiot on the show for sure. We got to find out what Molly's thinking. What's my dog? I said, I know what Molly's thinking. Molly's barking at nothing and smelling her ass and eating everything that falls on the ground. What do you mean she's not thinking anything? We got to find out what she's thinking. Like there's a human trapped inside the dog. That's how women think, by the way. Find out, Molly, see, we got to find out what you're thinking. Get the chick whisper. See if we can find out what's going on in the spines of theirs. Find out what the dog's thinking. Dog's got a brain size of an acorn. Doesn't think about anything. Doesn't even... That dog thinks you're a dog who walks on his back legs. And drives a car.
31:16🔗AdamI drive the car down the drive and the dog sleeps in front of the car. I honk the horn. It doesn't even look at me. It's not thinking, obviously.
31:23🔗DrewWell, it must be thinking something else.
31:26🔗AdamThere's a big metal cow that's rolling toward you. What do you think? The large horn. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back after this.
31:44🔗James Van PraaghLoveline is brought to you by the American Legacy Foundation. It's free, it's informative, it's powerful, it's true.
32:29🔗AdamThat's Dr. Drew James Van Praagh is here tonight. He's got himself a little book called Looking Beyond, Teen's Guide to the Spiritual World. I'm guessing.
32:39🔗James Van PraaghI have a website, people. I want to check it out.
32:41🔗AdamOh, yeah. You just go to www.vanpraagh.com. Van Praagh is P-R-A-A-G-H. Yes.
32:52🔗James Van PraaghHello to everybody in my chat room who's listening. I have a huge international chat room.
32:58🔗James Van PraaghThe service I give out to people who want to go to some of our grieving and just talk to people.
33:04🔗AdamYeah. Now, how much? See, I'm an atheist. When somebody dies, I just grieve. Let's bring a lot of comfort to people to think. Oh, they're there, they're happy, they're doing great.
33:17🔗James Van PraaghA lot of people said to me, I was going to commit suicide and I read many books and I decided not to. So that makes it a word.
33:24🔗James Van PraaghIt depends on the suicide. It depends on the motive behind it. So for instance, if your stock went down on Intel and you decide to kill yourself, it's a lot different than someone who has a brain chemistry disorder.
33:36🔗James Van PraaghInteresting. There are, yes, you know. So Tom Cruise was wrong about that. I know.
33:42🔗AdamYou get off your meds and you have an episode and you kill yourself. It's not looked at as the same way as you wanting to pay back your girlfriend.
33:56🔗James Van PraaghThe worst part of suicide, this is very interesting. One of my readings that years ago, and I used to do private readings. A lady came to me and I didn't know anything about her. I said, there's a man here, her son. I said, he's showing me and it was really, really weird. He actually showed me and I actually was almost like experiencing as he was showing it to me, putting a rope around a tree around his neck, hung himself, popped out of his body. First thing he says, I can't say it on the air, but, oh, what did I do? I tried to get back in. He couldn't get back in. The next thing he said, what did I do to my parents? Then he felt really bad about the people left behind. That's common. People will find after the people left behind, that's the guilt comes in then.
34:31🔗DrewThis is like you're jumping up the bridge story.
34:34🔗AdamI was watching a show on Discovery or something, and they interviewed about the three or four people that actually lived after attempting to commit suicide by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. The Golden Gate Bridge, they kill like a thousand people a year or something. It's like thousands of people dying. But every once in a while, for some reason or another, somebody makes it, and whenever they interview the person, they say the first thing that I thought when I jumped, as soon as I was two feet from the ledge, first thing I thought was, why did I do it?
35:14🔗AdamYeah. See, that's why when I kill myself, I go drugs and carbon monoxide because you don't have, why did I do it? You're just looking at a reflection of yourself in the mirror going, kick your ass, dude.
35:29🔗James Van PraaghThen there are people here on this earth who can't handle it. I mean, I think there are some people that come back before their time or they have too much on their plate and they just can't handle it.
35:36🔗James Van PraaghA lot of people say, I don't feel like in the right time or something's not right about things. I find that's a lot of people who come back before their time.
35:43🔗AdamWow. All right. Well, there's a question for James over here. Becky, who's 26. Becky?
35:53🔗James Van PraaghWell, I actually lost my dad a few years ago, and I was wondering if James could tell me anything. I've read all of your books, James. I think you're fantastic.
36:04🔗James Van PraaghThank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm not necessarily doing readings like that tonight because I have to prepare myself.
36:39🔗DrewI was the same type of stuff, just pop in sometimes.
36:40🔗James Van PraaghExactly. Exactly. I'll be sitting with someone in a store and something comes in. I was working out with a trainer once and I said, some lady's here named Ellen, she's over at Atlanta, an oatmeal. So that's my grandmother, she raised me. She's feeding the oatmeal every morning. I said, would you please, it's my paying for this training session. It's my time here.
36:57🔗James Van PraaghBut it just pops in your head. You'll be driving your car.
37:00🔗DrewDo you see something or it's just a thought?
37:02🔗James Van PraaghIt comes in different ways. I'll see a vision or I'll feel something or I'll hear thoughts in my head. Thoughts like we have, like I have to go to the store and buy milk or whatever. It's like those thoughts come through like that. So it depends on how they're going to send it to me.
37:14🔗James Van PraaghFlashes. Like flashes. I'll see a face or I'll see a scene of something, or I'll see the type of some clothes they're wearing or a tattoo or whatever it is. When I'm known as a survival evidence medium, which means I bring through my jobs, I bring through evidential details, names, places, events that no one knows about, which proves survival of consciousness.
37:33🔗James Van PraaghI used to do work with police all over the country. I used to work with government agencies. I stopped doing that. I did kidnap cases. I was specializing in that. One day, I couldn't take it because I saw this guy had this three-year-old girl in his car and I saw it very clearly, and he put his hand over and slapped her in the car. He was like, whoa. Then I saw him kill her with a shovel, hit her over the head, and then buried her. That's the last one I did. I couldn't do that.
37:58🔗James Van PraaghIt was years and years ago. I don't know if they did not. I don't remember. It was down near Louisiana somewhere.
38:05🔗AdamThat is the one part about the whole thing that gives it validity is the ones that actually work with the cops, which is a weird line. Oftentimes, it usually seems like women tell the cops where the body is or what's going on. Nine times out of ten, it's near a river, no ass. What do you think? It's in the middle of the Macy's? It's always near a river.
38:31🔗James Van PraaghIt's when you give street names.
38:32🔗AdamYeah, I want to hear street names. Yeah, it's by a rock. There's a tree. It's in the river. Yeah, I didn't bury them on the top of a Winnebago that's parked in a parking lot. They drag them out to the wherever, but they use these people.
38:45🔗James Van PraaghAll the time, but you don't hear it all the time, but you will never hear a police agency or government agency say they use psychics. You will never hear it because they won't admit it, but they use them, I'd say, a good 80 percent of the time. They can't get anywhere with their cases, they'll call someone up. Aruba right now, they had like five or six people they called.
39:29🔗James Van PraaghThey'll find. I think they're going to eventually find her. But I think they know where to put her. I think it's like in a cove area. Yeah.
39:35🔗AdamCorpses are weird things. It's like, yeah, we cased her in cement, threw her on the bottom of Lake Huron. It's like, yeah, then she popped up.
39:47🔗AdamI swear people swim better when they're dead. I swear to Christ, Drew.
39:52🔗DrewThey get to shore more often. They make it to shore.
39:55🔗AdamThere's always some guys doing some shore fishing, finds the body, they hacked them up, they weighted them down, they went 30 miles off, they cut them up, boom, the person's back. You know what I mean? You wouldn't think it would be that tall in order to get rid of a corpse. A corpse is five foot seven by 18 inches wide, and there's plenty of land, there's plenty of sea, there's plenty of lakes, there's plenty of woods. They show up. You know what I mean?
40:20🔗James Van PraaghYou got to know where to hide them.
40:23🔗James Van PraaghI mean, local people would know, especially if they're fishing all the time. No, I don't have a sense if we did it. I know it's people right there, local.
40:31🔗James Van PraaghYeah. But it's the people who knew the island, who knew what to do, and I think it was, in a way, accidental kind of thing. It wasn't meant to happen. It was-
40:39🔗James Van PraaghThey freaked out. She was not completely innocent, I feel.
40:43🔗AdamWell, that's why. This happens. People get loaded. I think what happens is-
40:47🔗James Van PraaghI think it happens more than we hear about it, too.
40:49🔗AdamOh, yes. I think what happens is they slip the chick a roofie, or they just get them loaded, they put something in their drink, they feed them drugs, they pass for some illegal stuff involved.
41:00🔗James Van PraaghThey OD or something happens.
41:01🔗AdamEven though it's not out and out rape, there's a little strong arming involved. Next thing you know, chick's heart stops beating, somebody freaks out, realizes they're gonna find roofies in her system, they're gonna find a little rough trade and got my hand on her neck. I'm freaking out. I'm effed up. The person's effed up. Now think about it. The person is loaded. They're not in the right mind because they just had an orgasm. At that point, it's like, Christ, I gotta eat a pizza. I gotta get out of here. You know what I mean? You don't even want to be with the people who are alive after your orgasm. As you're hanging with dead people.
41:35🔗AdamIt's like, I gotta get the eff out of here. You're not out of your mind. It's like, I'll throw in a lake or something. Last thing I want to do is call the cops and wait down here and deal.
41:44🔗James Van PraaghI think it was a bunch of three or four guys. I think two guys are messed up. I think there were other people they called friends or even relatives. Right. They dealt with it. That's what I think.
41:52🔗AdamAll right. Well, let me say bye to Becky. Becky?
41:55🔗James Van PraaghHey, Becky, one thing I can tell you, pay attention to your dreams. The most common way that spirits communicate with their loved ones is through dream state.
42:02🔗James Van PraaghYeah. I was wondering, how can you tell the difference between like contact and wishful thinking when you have dreams?
42:07🔗James Van PraaghWell, it depends on the content of what comes through, what kind of information comes through.
42:10🔗James Van PraaghUsually, it's like in the dream, I know that he's dead and I'm really excited to be like-
42:14🔗James Van PraaghIt feels more than a dream. Like when we have dreams, I call them crossovers of spirit, it feels more than a dream. It feels like there's an essence there. There's something very real about it. Very different than a regular type of dream.
42:27🔗AdamIf you drink malt liquor before you go to sleep, it really helps the antenna. I'll try that. Yeah, clear things up.
42:33🔗James Van PraaghYou draw those lower level things to you.
42:35🔗AdamBut I'm more receptive. I end up talking to black people, actually. It's awesome. I had a Uncle Lucius that passed away I didn't even know about. Did I tell you about him?
43:29🔗AdamYeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, 1-800-LOVE-191, James Van Praagh is here tonight. Drew, riddled James with questions during the break. I'm not going to write this fat red book unless people are going to read it. I'm going to need some guarantee.
43:43🔗DrewTired of our list of not reading my books.
43:45🔗AdamJames is like, you got to follow your heart. I have that. I got to make some money.
43:50🔗CallerIf I write this book, I'm going to read it.
43:51🔗DrewI don't want to waste my time, people are going to read it.
43:53🔗AdamI read between the monetary lines there. James, write him a note, a promissory note saying that someone will read his book. More than eight people will read the book this time if he writes a big fat book too. You make a movie. Drew, do you understand? You're asking James to guarantee you that someone would read your book, otherwise you weren't going to write it.
44:48🔗CallerOkay. Well, I'm a dancer, and I've been a dancer for about a year now, and I'm a pretty sexual person. I like to have sex, like, you know, often, like, you know, sometimes like twice a day, and I'm living with this guy, and he's not really my boyfriend. We were boyfriend and girlfriend a long time ago, and then we broke up, and then we moved back in together, and we tried it, and the relationship thing didn't work. Now we're basically just kind of screwing each other. And for the last two weeks, I haven't been able to have sex, and it's not like that I just can't, I just don't want to.
45:46🔗AdamYeah, that doesn't work for women long-term.
45:49🔗CallerI mean, it's always worked for me before. I mean, I've been with people before that I didn't have an actual relationship with.
45:54🔗AdamYeah, you've been with them nine times, but not for a year and a half.
45:57🔗DrewI also bet that, in fact, given that you're a stripper and stuff, we could expect that the trauma history is there and whatnot. And what happens when you're that kind of person is when you actually start feeling close to somebody, that's when you no longer can feel sexual. The sexual part of yourself is sort of split off as something bad, that you have to be with a bad boy in order to feel sexual, but when he starts becoming somebody you actually care about, even though he's not a boyfriend, but you actually kind of get a little close to him, you shut down.
46:24🔗DrewRight, that's right, you can't stand that. Also-
46:26🔗CallerThat's like 90% of the reason that we're not dating. We tried the relationship thing, and then I stopped having sex with him, and I was like, you know, I can't have sex. And it freaked him out, and he was like, well, is there something wrong with me? Am I doing something wrong? And I was like, no. I said, you know, why don't we just take a break now? I said, you go.
46:43🔗DrewNo, you're freaking out. You're too close to him, Loveline. Your dad was an abusive a-hole.
46:56🔗CallerWell, I mean, he is, and he's trying his best. Like, he hasn't been out sleeping with anybody. He hasn't had any girls over, you know. Wow.
47:13🔗DrewAll right, look, I suggest, I recommend you try to hang in and maybe recommit to this and try to be sexual with this guy and go with those feelings and see what happens.
47:21🔗AdamAll right, but let me say this. The whole part about the friends with benefits, the maintenance program, whatever. Well, who breaks it off? The woman. If it were up to guys, these things would go on for 30 years. It would never end. It's like no commitment, just regular out of this world sex. The average shelf life of these things is about a month and a half. It would be two decades if it was up to guys, women stop this. That's what I'm saying. James Van Praagh is here and I know it's a short break. We're pushed up against the top of the hour. We'll be back for a big long one though after this.
48:00🔗CallerLook in the hook up, call the Dateline.
48:39🔗AdamHey, everybody. I was going to paint, but now I'm not going to. James Van Praagh is here tonight. James has himself a show. Well, he's the executive producer of a show called The Ghost Whisper, which stars Jennifer Love Hewitt and Isha Tyler. Wouldn't care which one of them I got, you know?
49:10🔗James Van PraaghWe took over Back to the Future Square, Universal. We took that over. It's our village.
49:15🔗AdamFriday at 8 o'clock on CBS. When? It's Friday. September. It's starting this fall. Yeah. James, executive producer. Also, you can go to www.vanpraagh.com and find out what you want about James and communicate with him, not through telepathy, but through typing, which is actually more difficult for me.
49:39🔗James Van PraaghWe have every Tuesday night we have guest speakers and this sort of thing.
49:42🔗AdamAll right. You have an international audience.
49:44🔗James Van PraaghInternational all over the place.
49:45🔗AdamLooking Beyond, which is a book James has penned as well.
49:49🔗James Van PraaghWhich I'm going to give away five of them.
49:51🔗AdamWho, what area, what region, what part of the world besides, I don't know, Haiti do you think is the most spiritual?
50:00🔗James Van PraaghAustralia and Brazil. Brazil is incredible. I've been to Brazil seven times and they take this for granted.
50:15🔗James Van PraaghIt's very true. In Australia, wild bunch of people. I swear they got to be alien. I swear they got to be alien.
50:20🔗AdamWell, they're drunk, but Brazilians, they're just drunk. But Brazilians are spiritual. Australians are drunk.
50:27🔗James Van PraaghI've seen things in Brazil you would not believe. It's just incredible. Incredible things in Brazil. Like what do you mean? Psychic surgery, the man of God. Have you heard about that guy down there?
50:37🔗AdamIs that true? Does that work? I see stuff on that every once in a while.
50:43🔗James Van PraaghI experienced something which was really wild. I'm being very skeptical. I went down there, I was very open-minded, and I had just gotten over an ulcer in my stomach, and I went to the spiritual center there, and I was in a room with like 200 people, and they knew nothing about me. They said, come here, and the surgeon, psychic surgeon went right to the area where it was. They didn't say a thing, and did something with his hand, it was bleeding, whatever, it looked for chicken parts.
51:08🔗James Van PraaghWell, it was blood plasma, there was something going on. I was looking for chicken parts, I was looking for anything, I couldn't see anything. It went right to the area and-
51:15🔗AdamWhat was on your skin after he removed his hand?
51:18🔗James Van PraaghSomeone pinched it, like that sort of thing, so there was a mark that remained, but there was also some plasma type of stuff.
51:25🔗James Van PraaghReddish water. And that was it. I never had a problem with an ulcer after that. Never went off my meds, it was fine and there was nothing wrong after that.
51:33🔗AdamBut isn't a lot of the cause of the ulcer, your condition, your mental condition?
51:37🔗James Van PraaghA lot of things. Well, it's digestion, it's mental things, a lot of things.
51:40🔗AdamBut if you think somebody fixed your problem, maybe they did, if it's an ulcer.
51:44🔗James Van PraaghIf it worked, that's what happened.
51:47🔗AdamDrew, what do you think? You're a man of science. You were a man of science before you started picking James Brayne about your book. You've been demoted.
51:54🔗DrewThat's possible. It's possible that it's a placebo effect, I'm sure.
52:09🔗James Van PraaghI met the guy, it was wild. This is the guy I'm telling you about, it was wild. It was years ago, like 10 years ago, I went down to see him.
52:24🔗AdamYeah. I didn't copyright it. It would be awesome. It would be great publicity. The Pope, the Vatican forgets to copyright. You get it. Trademark Vicar of Christ. So I do it and I register it and now I sue the Pope for using Vicar of Christ. They sue the Vatican. I close. How quickly would I be shot, by the way, by all the religious ones? Like here's a great. How long would take a good religious person to put a bullet in my head? Think about that. Yeah, I trademarked the Vicar of Christ. No, Pope can't use it. You understand? Or if he does, I get 10 bucks every time. Yeah, that's all. He makes an appearance. Durex. That's all I have. Oh, Durex. Oh, yeah. Speaking of money that we don't get paid. One lucky person tonight will win the Durex Party Pack. Now what you get with this Party Pack is you get CDs, you get a poker set, you get money, and you get some Durex condoms. So you got the weekend all hashed out. Each night this week, I'm going to decide. Drew, you remind me because I'll forget. James, you could do that too. Best call the night and they're going to win the Party Pack. Winner must be 18 years older. Brought to you by Durex. There's sex and then there's Durex. All right. Now, let's talk to Nita, 59, a little out of our demo. We're open, aren't we, sweet spirit? What's up, Nita?
53:42🔗CallerHello. Yes, I'd like to know if you have any messages for my son, Dissy's son.
54:00🔗James Van PraaghWell, I think it was a friend or someone that knew him, I feel. And I feel there was some kind of drinking or something. It feels like drinking or drugs because it's like his head space seems very screwed up. I feel very, again, putting you through this sort of thing with him. There's a dog over there with him.
54:40🔗CallerI realize Myla can join her after I kill her for driving me insane.
54:45🔗James Van PraaghI'm feeling sorry, sorry, sorry from him. I feel a sense of being very sorry. Doesn't want you to be upset about him because he's alive, he's not dead.
54:55🔗James Van PraaghWhy do you still have this big thing in your living room about him with this picture and this whole monumental thing going on there?
55:01🔗James Van PraaghThere's a religion involved here too. I feel like candles and religious and I feel like flowers and you put the flowers all the time.
55:09🔗James Van PraaghYou understand that? It's like in the pictures and he's like enough with the pictures, he's all right, enough with the pictures. Enough with the photographs.
55:48🔗AdamOh, 23. All right. And what was the story? What did happen?
55:53🔗CallerWell, he was with a friend at his apartment and they had been drinking and they, there was a 23-foot, or a 40-foot cliff or something off the back of their apartment. And the boy, the other friend of his apparently climbed the fence and my son was talking on the cell phone to his girlfriend and he says, oh my God, he says, Chris is on the other side of the fence. So apparently he went to join him and to try to talk to him to come back to get, you know, because there was only, there was a five-foot ledge there before the drop off into Lake Erie. And as far as we can tell, his friend said that, his friend told us that he, that the friend fell first, he slipped and he never saw our son again, but our son was missing for six days and they-
56:38🔗James Van PraaghHe survived, the friend survived though.
56:40🔗James Van PraaghYeah, I got to say there was a fight beforehand. There was some kind of an argument and a fight. I'm telling you, I see it. And I feel very much like a push. I feel like there was an argument.
56:47🔗AdamWell, so the friend went into Lake Erie?
56:50🔗CallerWell, the friend didn't quite go in. He ended up on the ledge and broke some bones, but her son apparently fell into Lake Erie.
56:57🔗James Van PraaghWere they fighting over a girl?
56:58🔗CallerNo, no, they each had separate girlfriends.
57:00🔗James Van PraaghWell, did the girlfriends know each other?
57:13🔗James Van PraaghHe's around you. There's no such thing as death. So believe it or not, he's around you. You've got to send him some love. I feel like he feels very guilty about how he left like that and left you that way. And I just get a sense that he wants you to live. You have to live your life.
57:25🔗AdamWould they ever bring any charges against a roommate or anything like that?
57:36🔗James Van PraaghI wrote a book which had a habit called Healing Grief. It's a very good book about people who lose children and people who lose partners and the parents. It would really help you. There's exercise in there. You have to say grief. You have the grief, okay. So that'll help you.
57:49🔗DrewHow come mediums don't ever talk to people when they're saying, hey, I want you to kill yourself. Come over and join me.
58:05🔗James Van PraaghNo, because that's not the right thing to do. Because they have to live their life out. I mean, we're here for a reason. We're here for as long as we're supposed to be here.
58:10🔗AdamI know, but the person that passed over may want to be reunited with a girlfriend or something.
58:13🔗James Van PraaghThere's also a difference in your outlook on life and death when you pass out of the physical dimension. There's a whole different way of looking at it.
58:21🔗AdamI imagine the pressure's off. You know what I mean?
58:24🔗James Van PraaghA little bit, but then you create some more pressure with the way you live your life. If you didn't live your life a good way, if it's a very bad way, you have to judge yourself and go through the hole.
58:33🔗AdamAm I going to have to take Ambien when I'm on the other side?
59:02🔗AdamAlmost had a little TiVo trouble the other night. Wife was out of town for a couple of days, so I was cruising through Playboy. Found Viva Ron Jeremy in Las Vegas. I decided to do that. Forgot about it and then noticed it was still floating around today.
59:19🔗AdamNo, no. I found it. I found it first. Point is, you got to watch out that TiVo, that's a diary for dudes. You know what I mean? That's your diary. But we know exactly what you're up to and what you're into. You bust into a single guy who's got a TiVo. Oh man. I'll read you like a book. You don't have to be James Van Praagh to find out what's going on.
59:38🔗DrewGive James some props for the living room with the flowers and the pictures.
59:42🔗AdamNo, who doesn't do that? Everybody does that. Look, here's the deal, James. I'm going to put my skeptical hat on. People that make these kinds of phone calls are the kinds of people that have the shrines. When you grieve, that's what you have.
59:59🔗James Van PraaghThat's not true because there are people that don't want to see it, think about it, or know about it, and they put everything out of their house. I mean, I've had all different types of people.
1:00:05🔗AdamOne out of 10, but nine out of 10, and you play the odds. Nine out of 10 are going to have the shrine.
1:00:10🔗CallerWe can rationalize anything we want.
1:00:12🔗AdamWell, I just mean the shrine thing, and the parent blaming the roommate. Always the grieving parent is going to blame whoever's nearest to the son. Son got drunk, son climbed over the fence, to a degree son jumped over the thing, or fell over the thing, or whatever. They're always going to blame whoever was around, the son.
1:00:31🔗James Van PraaghMostly, what I find mostly, Adam, they blame themselves.
1:00:35🔗James Van PraaghLike, I have a situation where the kid dies in a car crash, and the parent was like, I knew they shouldn't have driven that car. I should have said, there's nothing you could have done. There's nothing you could have done. I mean, what could you do? Stand there in front of the car? You can't do that.
1:00:46🔗James Van PraaghThat's a common thing that they feel guilty, too.
1:00:49🔗AdamHere's the thing. Well, a couple of things. First off, here's the thing. Whenever, I believe, whenever somebody leaves for the airport, comes back to the airport, gets in a car for a long drive, goes out to do, I'm going to go do some hiking or something. Everyone has a flash in their head of, oh my goodness, oh my goodness. But-
1:01:12🔗AdamWhat if? But it rarely comes to fruition. Then once in a blue moon, the unthinkable happens and it does, and the person says, I knew it. But what you don't realize is you had that flash. There's not a time-
1:01:25🔗James Van PraaghI think things- So let's look at it this way. One of the things happen, maybe part of who you are, you can see things before they happen. So maybe outside of the three-dimensional world, there's no such thing as time. So a part of you is there, so you can see the future, the past, the present. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that's a flash.
1:01:40🔗AdamI'm saying just the opposite, which is I don't think there's a time you drop your wife off or your kids off at the airport and don't have a flash of, let's hope they arrive safely, and a little flash of the unthinkable flash. Then if it does happen, the person says, aha.
1:01:58🔗AdamI knew it. They don't realize the other 100 times they dropped me at the airport, they had that thought too. Now, you obviously have more than that.
1:02:06🔗James Van PraaghBut there's a difference in that. So for instance, most common intuition things, people think about someone five minutes later, the phone rings, it's that person they were thinking about. So what is that? Is that a coincidence or is that intuitive? I think it's part of an intuitive communication, telepathic communication, whatever you want to call it, there's something going on there.
1:02:22🔗AdamYeah, well, I also believe that your mind can sort of send you reminders without sending you reminders, like you should, you haven't heard from this person in a while, wait a minute, the person owed me a phone call from yesterday, there's little sort of prompters that are involved.
1:02:41🔗James Van PraaghSo there's thought involved.
1:02:44🔗James Van PraaghSo you're sending out that thought. So let's not say, the other person might be able to pick up on that thought that you have, maybe they're picking up on it.
1:02:51🔗AdamYeah. I sort of believe it's a mixture of things. There is that element and there's also an element of, if you go back and examine it, you'll realize, well, the person was on your mind because you were supposed to go out with them the day before and they didn't call and you were expecting it. There's those elements.
1:03:12🔗James Van PraaghCould be. I think it's all different things. I mean, you can't just put it into one little box. There's a lot of factors involved.
1:03:16🔗AdamWell, here's the thing. You're smart because whatever theories I have wouldn't make a goddamn penny if I wrote a book about it. That's the thing.
1:03:23🔗James Van PraaghBut for you, that's how you look at it and that's your reality.
1:04:18🔗James Van PraaghThere's a move coming like a physical move, like a location of where you're living. There's definitely a change here, really strong. Generally speaking, but that's what I'm getting.
1:04:25🔗AdamStupid because you live in San Francisco.
1:04:27🔗CallerWell, what about like insurance in my academic professional?
1:04:44🔗James Van PraaghI don't like him. I don't trust him. I don't like him. I feel like he has something else, like he's not giving you a complete truth, that there's something else going on. I also feel there's a co-worker on your same level, and that he looks at that person more than you for something else. I don't think you're going to stay there very long. I'd say like four months, and then you're out of there.
1:05:03🔗James Van PraaghBut you also have two other things going on. What do you do at night? Is there like a night thing going on here? Like I think about doing some work at night or?
1:05:09🔗CallerNo, actually, I don't work at night, but I study at nighttime.
1:05:12🔗James Van PraaghBecause it's something at night, you're going to be doing like a temporary gig or something at night.
1:05:19🔗CallerI'm hoping to go into a pharmacy school.
1:05:22🔗AdamOh, really? Well, your English is way too good to be a pharmacist. You couldn't work in Southern California. Yeah, I know, but you're Asian, but you have good English. You couldn't work out here. Here, if you want to come out to LA, the pay is great, but you have to not be able to understand the pharmacist. You understand? There's good Baltic Republics and things like that where people come from places I've never heard of. Armenia. Yeah, it's just crazy nationalities with no understanding whatsoever. The only thing you should be able to understand is when they're having conversations in their native tongue and I need my Ambien when they give me the stink eye, that's a universal thing. So Stephanie, don't move to Los Angeles, okay?
1:06:22🔗James Van PraaghYeah. There's something changing with that. I don't feel it's stable there. I don't feel there's a stability there. There's some of the landlord coming up too I don't like. Sorry, I'm just telling you what I get. That's what I feel. I also feel you got to stabilize your emotional self because I feel you're all over the place. I feel like you really want a relationship but it's not happening and you're not ready for it right now. But you got to know what you want. You're someone who doesn't know what you want in a relationship.
1:06:46🔗AdamStephanie, what do you do during the day?
1:07:32🔗AdamHe's not a real pharmacist, shouldn't be trust. He's an imposter. Somewhere there's a Croatian guy, fat Croatian woman is tied up in the closet somewhere. Angry, surly, mid-50s, big calves, short hair, very angry, very angry. Is what? I get angry. That's what I get.
1:08:25🔗AdamShe's going to make a great pharmacist. Because you're right. I'll tell you, in my evaluation, I evaluate pharmacists who work the LA area. I would be like, the English is a nine and that's going to hurt you. That's a strike. Your English is pretty good, which is bad. But your inability to track or understand what people are asking is strong. That's the hand you got to play. Very strong in that department. Then I would convene with the other people that didn't speak English and I would say, no, she's good. I would say, let's see if we could screw up the English a little bit more and focus on the part where you have no idea what the person in front of you is asking. Okay? Here's some good tips. When the person tells you how to spell their name, ask them six times. That's good. What's your last name? King? What is? King. See? No. And then get confused and then go answer the phone. That's it. Drew, what is it with pharmacists in this area?
1:09:22🔗DrewI don't know, but I've had that experience and when you're giving complex orders, it gets a little weird. Like, it's scary, really.
1:09:27🔗AdamHere's my feeling about pharmacists. We've worked this out, haven't we? They were doctors in their native land, wherever that is, but because of the language barrier, they can't do that here, but they're so highly educated that that's where they turn to. Yes? Or maybe they're just gobbling up the drugs.
1:09:47🔗James Van PraaghI have a good question for you. How much, Drew, do you find pharmaceutical companies influence doctors?
1:09:53🔗DrewI don't think as much as people think they do. I think for the most part, most doctors don't see pharmaceutical reps. And when they do, they do it just to get the samples for their patients. Because you can save patients thousands of dollars. So if you spend a minute and a half with a pharmacy rep, you get some medication that you already are planning to use. You already know you need it. That's why you're spending that time with the rep.
1:10:15🔗AdamIs it changed from the old days of the golf tournaments in Maui, and all the glad handing and everything?
1:10:21🔗James Van PraaghIt's very tight now, isn't it?
1:10:22🔗DrewOh, yeah. Now, it's tighter for them. The doctors are fearful of violating ethical boundaries with even talking to them. They just don't talk to them.
1:10:32🔗AdamAll right. I want to say something. I know it just popped in my sweet-spirited head. I was watching. Here's my wonderful TiVo tonight. And I was watching 60 Minutes from last week, three, four days ago. I don't know if you guys caught it. But I just.
1:10:46🔗DrewYou got that after the Ron Jeremy film?
1:10:48🔗AdamThey were in between, actually. Refractory period.
1:11:04🔗AdamThe point is, is they were. Every third 60 Minutes episode is how horrible this country is. And a lot of it is, is a lot of these stories of what we're doing to find out information about terrorists. And what we do is we have a no torture policy when it comes to extracting information from terrorists. So we send them somewhere else to be tortured. And they get all sanctimonious and heavy handed and they get all high on their horse. And it's like, well, you know, do you think it's right to use force to whatever? And then everyone starts backpedaling, which is stupid. Well, we knew nothing of this when they knew everything of it. And they never turn it around on the guy and go, look, if we had a guy on 910 who had some information, we could put a cigarette butt out on his forehead and got some news out of him. What would you wanted us to do? Huh? I'm asking you, what do you think, jackass? They never do that. They start backpedaling and so they pose the question to the American who is sort of in charge of this. And the guy basically said, we've got a lot of useful information out of these guys through these techniques and staved off some attacks. And they said, yes, but through torture, is that all right with you? And the guy said, it's all right with me. And I thought, yeah, good. That's right. It's okay. Put the screws to the guys, get some information and a bus full of kids will live.
1:12:34🔗DrewYeah, you didn't break any laws or anything?
1:12:35🔗AdamYeah, the guy was like, yeah, no, no, that's fine. And I thought, good, that's what we have to do with these pussies. Instead of like, you start backpedaling, they get momentum and the next thing you know, you're cornered. Yeah, we sent them to a country. They got techniques. They don't got laws like we got over there. They extract the information. We stop terrorist attacks. That's fine. That's how we do it. That's why we're doing it, by the way. The reason it's okay with me is- It works. It works. That's what we're doing, yeah. He just said, yeah. He said, look, I'm interested in stopping terrorist attacks, so it's fine with me. Good. Then the other guy would speak. He had nothing. What are you going to say?
1:13:11🔗AdamJust stand up, everybody. Someone wants to know if it's okay with you, if you put a screwdriver on a guy and get some information. Fine. That's fine. That's what they do to us. It's fine.
1:13:21🔗DrewAre you kidding? What would they do to us?
1:13:22🔗AdamThat's the other thing too. Again, you watch 60 Minutes two weeks earlier and it's like, oh, Guantanamo Bay, a female interrogator took one of the men there interrogating, put his hand on her breast. It's like, yeah, is that a big deal? You know what I'm saying? Send me to Guantanamo Bay so I can cop a feel. By the way, we call that getting a second base, not torture. That's torture. In high school, I pay for that crap.
1:13:49🔗DrewTorture is he's not able to go beyond.
1:13:51🔗AdamTorture is I couldn't get under the bra.
1:13:53🔗AdamIt's always over the sweater. They make a big deal over it. And the person they're talking to is like, well, I'm going to look into this immediately. The person to be going, listen, anyone who's had battery cables hooked up to their nuts knows what torture is. This ain't it. And let me ask you, you're getting tortured. What do you go with? You go with the electrocution of the genitals or you go with the hand on the boob? What do you go with? Yeah. So shut up. No one ever does that. It's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, me too. I'm looking at this. Shut up. Shut your pie hole, everybody. We'll take a quick break. James Van Praagh here tonight. We'll be right back after this.
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1:15:31🔗AdamYeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. James Van Praagh is here tonight. He's freaking me out. Someone's going to break into my house. Awesome.
1:15:42🔗James Van PraaghYou're not going to publish that, are you?
1:15:43🔗AdamAll right. All right. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Do we do this direct thing?
1:16:13🔗DrewWell, it's two different diagnoses. Vulvodynia just means painful extragenitalia. Vestibulitis is a specific diagnosis that causes vulvodynia. It's in the class of the stuff that on this show, they have sexual abuse, is often associated with sexual abuse. I don't know if you had that, Andrew, or not, but the only treatment that's ever been shown to be useful for vestibulitis per se are antidepressant medicines, things like that.
1:16:49🔗CallerNo. I've never been sexually abused. It just started like a year ago, and I was under a lot of stress at the time with school and family and relationship stuff. I was wondering if it was stress-related or-
1:17:01🔗DrewOh, it sure is. That's why antidepressants possibly one of the reasons it works, because there is a central nervous system component to this thing. But I got to tell you, there usually is some kind of, no one inappropriately touched you or anything like that.
1:17:15🔗James Van PraaghThere's a source where it begins, some of us know.
1:17:39🔗AdamI don't get an ounce. Like see, if we're hearing it in your voice, we would be really digging, but I'm not hearing anything. It sounds very normal.
1:17:46🔗DrewSo maybe it's an anxiety symptom for you, or maybe there is some inflammation there.
1:17:50🔗DrewI'll tell you one thing that, are you on birth control pills? Yes. I'll tell you one thing that doctors overlook very, very often, and it sometimes gets pushed off as vestibulitis, is you can get what's called atrophic vaginitis from the birth control pills. There's something called Vagifem, a little intra vaginal suppository. You take once a week. It takes care. I urge you strongly to try that because the progesterone in the birth control pill sometimes blocks the estrogenic effects at the external genitalia and just putting some estrogen down there takes care of it. You may not even have vestibulitis, you may have what's called atrophic vaginitis, all right?
1:18:23🔗CallerWould that be? I went to many different doctors and they gave me estrogen cream to put in.
1:18:45🔗DrewYeah, this is not something you can necessarily sort out just by looking. So I would go back to the estrogen cream for a month or so, frankly.
1:19:04🔗DrewIs that going okay, that relationship?
1:19:06🔗CallerIt's going good now. At the time it started, it wasn't going so good. So it's kind of why I wondered if it was stressed or maybe, like, I don't know, there was like cheating going on.
1:19:20🔗CallerMy stress? I was I'm in school and I was taking really hard classes. My sister was getting in trouble using meth, having a lot of family issues.
1:19:34🔗DrewWhat's going on? No one hit you when you're growing up? You never had that kind of problem?
1:19:39🔗AdamWhat's going on with your sister doing the math?
1:19:42🔗CallerI don't know what her problem is. Everything started right around then. She was caught with theft. She stole $700 worth of stuff from the mall.
1:20:04🔗CallerHe's a mass spectrometer. He works at the university in the chemistry department.
1:20:08🔗AdamI knew it. My next one is mass spectrometer. He's the guy, the thing with the lightning bolts that comes out of it. He's a mad scientist. What the hell? What the hell does he do?
1:20:29🔗AdamAll right. Andrea, boy, I'll tell you, your family's got range. Because your dad's working the mass spectrometer over at the college, and your sister's scoring crack.
1:20:42🔗DrewI was suspicious that maybe more going on in your family than you really realize. But whatever, there's emotional overlay, could be an estrogenic effect, could be related to the birth control. There's a lot of possibilities here.
1:20:50🔗James Van PraaghCan I just throw something else at you, Andrea?
1:20:57🔗James Van PraaghThere's a sense that you have to live up to a certain expectation of your family. What they expect of you? Yeah.
1:21:04🔗CallerI would have to say that I'm more of the overachiever and I felt I had to live up to that.
1:21:09🔗James Van PraaghI think that's an element of this also. I think that's an element of that, that's stress-related with this expectation, what's expected of you with your family. Just be yourself.
1:21:17🔗DrewA book called Drama of the Gifted Child. You may want to check that out.
1:21:57🔗James Van PraaghYeah, Jennifer will do it.
1:21:59🔗James Van PraaghOh, okay. Excuse me. My question is pretty much, I'm going to pretty much start and get in the medical field for my career and I just don't know which route I want to go. I mean, I'm starting at the basics.
1:22:12🔗James Van PraaghI think therapist. Therapist. You're good with people and I feel like there's some psychology or therapy type of work you're going to get involved in. It's more than the medical part. I feel like more with people oriented. I also feel to travel with it too, so there's going to be some therapy and people.
1:22:32🔗James Van PraaghA rambling therapist is now what I'll do?
1:22:34🔗James Van PraaghIt's like a group. You're in front of a group, like you're doing seminars, it's good for you. But I feel like there's more years involved in the training part of it than you're anticipating.
1:23:41🔗AdamJames Van Praagh is here tonight. He's got a book out called Looking Beyond. He's got a TV show coming out called The Ghost Whisperer. He's got a website, www.vonpraagh.com.
1:24:39🔗AdamHey everyone, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. James Van Praagh is here tonight. Got a little show coming out in the fall called The Ghost Whisper. Got some hot chicks in there. Jennifer Love Hewitt, Aisha Tyler. Wish him luck on that.
1:24:53🔗James Van PraaghI also do lectures all over the country. People want to know about San Francisco, Seattle, Denver's coming up. They go to my website. They have great seminars.
1:25:00🔗AdamWhat are the big cities for this thing in this country?
1:25:17🔗James Van PraaghThen New York is third and then Chicago. Phoenix. Phoenix and then Arizona. It's weird.
1:25:22🔗AdamSee, that's weird because I would think, well, that's for the psychic stuff, but if you go to Louisiana, you got a lot more going on there.
1:25:31🔗James Van PraaghYou got the voodoo, you got the black dark magic, a lot of light magic, a lot of stuff.
1:25:37🔗AdamI think over there though, it's like, why do we need to pay a guy to tell us what we already know? I got a ghost living in my house. It's like Brazil.
1:25:43🔗James Van PraaghYeah, it's like Brazil. It's like a tradition there too. It's yeah, exactly. But different cities have different energy, so it'll attract different types of elements.
1:25:51🔗AdamBut the people are most into it and you said Phoenix?
1:25:54🔗James Van PraaghYeah, very much like Sedona and Phoenix share the range.
1:25:57🔗AdamSedona, I can see that. Certainly California. Lily?
1:26:29🔗CallerWell, I just found out that he's homeless now. I didn't know that whenever we first got together because he told me that he was living with a friend.
1:26:38🔗AdamYeah. He's supposed to be able to smell the homeless.
1:27:02🔗AdamThis is comically bad. By the way, you're going to win the Durex Party Pack. Yes. I wish I'd get any of those condoms just a little bit earlier.
1:28:20🔗DrewMake a call to Social Services or Department of Mental Health. Go get some assistance, talk to somebody there, and they will help you disconnect from this guy. Okay? Also help you with the child and what to do with that. Hang on, we're going to give you this new pack. Give me the 50 bucks, we'll help her.
1:28:36🔗AdamYeah. And look, Lily, let's not have this call a year from now. You know what I mean? Don't make this mistake again because you're only 18. You got four or five more of these in you. Yeah.
1:28:48🔗DrewLet's turn it around now. It's 18. I know you're suffering deeply. There's a lot of pain here.
1:29:19🔗CallerI wanted to know, I've been dating this girl for about six months, and then we split up, but we're still kind of like talking. I've known her for four years, and she's telling me, just trust me, wait, it's worth it. She wants you back.
1:29:33🔗James Van PraaghShe wants to marry you, right? She wants to marry you?
1:29:40🔗James Van PraaghI'd give it a couple more years, because there's also some college stuff going on, like university stuff and she's going to school.
1:29:51🔗James Van PraaghWait two years, fill things out, see what happens, and she's got to be patient.
1:29:56🔗AdamYou're 19. You have the greatest excuse in the world.
1:29:59🔗CallerI don't want to get married right now. No way. I've got a lot of freedom.
1:30:02🔗AdamNo, I understand that, but here's the thing. We tell people this every night. When you're 19, it's not an option. It's not something that can be brought to the negotiating table. It's just not an option. You don't have to explain why you can't. Show her your driver's license. That's all the explanation she needs. She doesn't want to be with someone. You should explain to her, you shouldn't want a 19-year-old to marry your ass.
1:30:30🔗James Van PraaghJames, don't give your power away so easily. Why would you give your power away? Why would you give it away? Don't be so pressured.
1:30:48🔗AdamWhat's the deal? When you're 19 and she's 18 or she's 19, it's not like you have to break up if you both make it to 20 and you're not married. Right. You could date for five years. You could see each other. You could live with each other.
1:31:36🔗AdamYou're going to Germany. Here's the thing. People, you have no idea when you're 19. Look, if you lived in Indiana and she lived in Chicago, this thing wouldn't work. If you're going to Germany, forget about it.
1:31:51🔗AdamYou should hope. Just be smart. Don't go to Germany and be miserable for nine months and then find out she was sleeping with your buddy when you come back. Just come on. So you got to live your life or don't go to Germany. Right. I mean, get a job on a farm, marry her and start crapping out some kids. That's the whole thing. You can't live the modern lifestyle in the stone age of marriage. Like here's the thing. You want to go to Germany? Fine. Go to Germany. Break up or stay there. Don't do both.
1:32:50🔗DrewCompound fractures, it's sticking out of the skin, or displaced fracture, meaning the bone isn't lined up anymore.
1:32:56🔗CallerGo ahead. It's been tough times. I've visited three or four doctors, I've been to the ER and everything. He was telling me, I believe, I know I'm going to screw this word up, calcium. He wanted me to take extra calcium. He said he'd eat a lot of ice cream and calcium, I believe.
1:33:11🔗CallerWhat are some good over-the-counter calcium pills that I could take?
1:33:14🔗DrewOh, it's all kinds. There's a million of them. Calcium carbonate or you could even just take tums. You could take eight tums habits a day and be great.
1:33:21🔗AdamIt's a bad sign when at age 20 you think you're going to screw up the word calcium. I know some kind of foreign.
1:33:27🔗CallerIt's all that weed and we could get into that.
1:33:29🔗AdamYeah, it's all that medical ease, Drew. You know, that's crazy medical ease here.
1:33:33🔗CallerI got to use the paint here, guys. I got to use the paint.
1:34:08🔗AdamGood luck with your dreams. Look, go to a local radio station, drive the van. That's the way you do it. You'd show up. Don't bother taking any classes.
1:34:16🔗CallerOne more time, Dr. Drew, what was the name of that you said?
1:34:18🔗DrewTums. Tums tablets. Calcium carbonate, about 1000 milligrams a day.
1:34:36🔗AdamSeashells? Wow. Seen oyster shells, they just crush them up? All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. James Van Praagh is here tonight. We'll be right back after this.
1:35:27🔗AdamWell, that's a sharp one. I want to thank James Van Praagh for coming in tonight. Look and Beyond is the name of the book, Teen Guides to the Spiritual World. And also you can go to www.vanpragh.com. If you want to find out information about where James is going to be, coming to a town near you, or you just want to interact with James, yes?
1:35:50🔗James Van PraaghYes, sir. Thank you very much.
1:36:02🔗AdamAll right, Terran Manning is coming in here tomorrow night, and also John Singleton from Hustle and Flow is supposed to be really good. So we'll talk to them tomorrow night. Until next time, it's Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo.
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