1:20🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline, but it's actually better than Loveline. It's the best of Loveline.
1:25🔗DrewIt has to be. It's not just better, it's the best.
1:28🔗AdamLet me ask you this. Seriously, people think these best of shows are cop-out, but seriously, what would you rather do? See a crappy movie you've never seen before, which would be Loveline on a regular night, or see a movie you loved for a second time?
1:43🔗DrewListen, with this, there's even a chance that you didn't see it, but heard it was great. Now's your chance.
1:52🔗AdamWe were talking right before we went to break about profiling and how that's turned into a bad thing. I happen to like profiling. I like all forms of profiling.
2:02🔗DrewThat's what medicine is. It's basically profiling.
2:04🔗That's what science is. That's what science is. It's noticing certain phenomena are connected with other phenomena. I mean, that's science.
2:12🔗DrewAnd your brain makes patterns out of them, and you recognize the patterns when you see them.
2:16🔗AdamAnd it's all really, as an organism, it's one of our oldest instincts, you know what I mean? It's the profiling between the dog that's wagging its tail and looking friendly, and the dog that looks a little dicey and looks like it might take a piece out of your calf, you know what I mean? That's all you do. Now, does that mean this? Like, it's like, look, you see, first off, you know, there's this whole thing like, profiling has turned into sort of a bad word. I want people to profile. The FBI, they have profilers. When a kid gets abducted, they bring in the profiler. They all just don't start running in different directions. Random. Yeah, randomly. Well, it could be, it could be an Asian woman in her 80s. It could be an American Indian man. Could be an infant. Could be another infant that abducted the infant. No, they know it's a white guy. In the neighborhood. And they know he's in the neighborhood. And they know he had some relationship with the child. And they know he's between 34 and 46 years of age. And he has a family and he has a stable job and blah, blah, blah. They know all these things and that's where they begin looking. And the reason they look there is because 90 percent of the time it's true.
3:29🔗Well, that's why we had 9-11 was because people were opposed to profile.
3:33🔗AdamYes, and now the posties over at the ACLU are like suing Logan Airport because there's profile. And here's the part, here's all I want. I'm just tired of, there's always going to be the ACLU posties complaining about everything, wanting to get the cross off the crest, wanting to do all, you know, they don't want death row inmates to submit DNA samples. They're just, they're just lefty posties that are angry at their gay parents. I understand that. But here's the thing. Let's not cave in to the retarded pussy pressure. When they say, we're accusing you, airport security members of profiling, oh no, we weren't profiling, yeah we weren't profiling you. Shut up. Plus, keep your gay ass from blowing up next time it's on the plane, all right? So shut your pie hole and get back to hating your stepdad and we'll ask you to be in the basement. Would you? Let's take that rage and go ahead, you, yeah, why don't you hang out with your PETA buddies and take that rage as meant for your parents and just steer it at your parents and stop steering it at society. Let us do our job. You do your job, you go functue apartments in west LA, we'll take care of the terrorists. Okay, you wusses? Please.
4:47🔗CallerWell you know what they say, have you seen the little piggies, it's all political piggies, I mean it has to do with who has political power in the society, if people are courting the Arab American vote, they don't want to do profiling, if they're courting the African American vote, they don't want to do profiling, but profiling has real value, I mean it's, I think it's very, very silly not to use profiling, and it's not aimed at insulting any group, it's just aimed at preventing crime.
5:12🔗AdamYeah, and by the way, you know, when it comes to, as the aforementioned child abduction, they don't go looking for Arab guys, they go looking for white guys in a certain age range. We earn that right to be profiled, unfortunately, by having almost exclusively white guys in this age range doing the abductions. That's all it is. You go ahead and do the lion's share of whatever kind of crime you're doing, and you get to the top of that crime's profile list. That's the way it works.
5:47🔗CallerCan I point out something about profiling and ethnicity? This is kind of interesting. At least I think it might not be. I was host of one of the inaugural balls. There were eight inaugural balls, and I was host to one of them.
6:15🔗DrewBut anyway, so how about his buddy with the ball?
6:18🔗CallerYeah. What's his name? Sirvix or something like that? Kurt, Kurt, Kurchik or something. Right. I forget his name. Anyway, I went to this ball. Very, very lavish thing. Lots and lots of very, very rich people. People so rich that they make Adam and you look poor.
6:36🔗AdamI mean, we're literally a millionaire, Ben, but not a multi-millionaire.
6:40🔗CallerThese are billionaires. I mean, we were sitting in a part of the room where it's all billionaires.
6:47🔗CallerI was, all right, all right. So at this party, we notice almost no African Americans. Okay, that's fine. If you have to pay tickets, people are allowed to come. Nobody's discriminating against. We go to the party after that, that was called the Red, White and Blue Heroes Ball, which is all servicemen wounded and maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan. There there are a lot of African Americans, a lot of African Americans who fought and lost their legs or lost their eyesight or lost their ability to move. That's the only party I went to at the inauguration that had a lot of African Americans and that sort of broke my heart.
7:24🔗AdamYeah, it would be nice if more white guys got wounded. I agree.
7:29🔗AdamOh, you want the black guys at the rich party. I see.
7:32🔗CallerNo, it would be just nicer if there was some. What I find amazing is that black guys, especially ones who are like now in their 70s or 80s, went off to fight in World War II or Korea or Vietnam, when when they came back, they were very badly mistreated. I spend some Saturdays and Sundays over at the VA Hospital in Westwood.
7:54🔗CallerYes. I go over there and I bring them presents and treats, and I bring pretty girls to meet them and so forth. And there are a lot of black guys there in that Veterans Hospital who came from small towns in Alabama or Georgia or Mississippi and fought in the Army and were wounded in the Army and still are carrying those wounds. And I think to myself, they left the segregated society and went off and fought for this country and lost their lives, lost their mobility, and it's pretty goddamn impressive. It really, really is. I mean, you really tear up when you see them. Yeah.
8:27🔗DrewAnd how do you think we would have improved this situation?
8:29🔗CallerThis situation has improved unbelievably.
8:41🔗CallerYou're 40. Okay. Pretty, pretty close. The, the, the, uh, when I was a child growing up in Washington, DC., not Mississippi, not Alabama, Washington, DC.
8:51🔗CallerCapital of the nation, as I like to say. In the Washington Post, big liberal newspaper, classified ads used to say, help wanted colored, help wanted white. Apartments colored, apartments white. Uh, residential neighborhoods, real estate for sale, colored real estate for sale white. That, they would say, they would say in the ads, if a house, if a neighborhood was restricted against Jews, it would say, convenient to churches. That meant Jews don't bother even looking at the house, you can't buy it. That was in Washington, DC when I was growing up. I'm not that old. It wasn't that long ago. I went to high school, to an elementary school and part of my time in junior high school, racially segregated by law. The society has changed completely. Completely. It's a miracle how it's changed.
9:36🔗AdamAnd was it tough being a Jew in that environment?
9:39🔗CallerIt was fairly tough. I mean, I lived in a fairly affluent neighborhood and so that part wasn't bad. But there were kids who would call me an effing Jew and we would have fights. And you know something interesting? Something you and it makes me think of you and Jimmy. This was in junior high in particular and I started lifting weights and got very, very strong and they stopped picking on me. I was about the strongest white guy in the class by ninth grade. Really? And they stopped picking on me. A very, very good lesson. But when I was in like eighth grade, I had a project for one of my classes, pick an occupation and write about why you'd like to be in that occupation. So my father was a super smart guy. I said to him, I think I'd like to work in advertising. Could you help me write a little paper about what it's like in Madison Avenue? He said, well, you're not going to work in advertising. The big agencies don't take Jews. Wow. Okay. So that was 1958. Now they're largely Jewish, largely Italian. I said, all right, well, then I said, I love cars. Maybe I could work at General Motors or Ford. My father was friends with the chairman of General Motors. I said, maybe I can work at General Motors. No, General Motors doesn't take Jews. Well, that was not that long ago. I said, all right, how about, I said, I like banks because it's real clean and neat and it's not dirty. There you go. No, no Jews in the banks. Commercial banks didn't take Jews. Wow. Some investment banks, commercial banks didn't take Jews. Okay, that's totally changed. It's all open to everyone now. It's a miracle now.
11:17🔗AdamYeah, that's my point. And I know, look, things still exist, some obstacles. I'll tell you the biggest obstacle, really though, whatever color your skin is or whatever your religion is, being ugly, bigger obstacle than anything, being fat, bigger obstacle, and being poor.
11:41🔗AdamYes, and just being, and they've done plenty of tests with this, just being flat out unattractive. I mean, I've said this many times. My friends, single ones, that is, and Ben, would date just about any ethnicity as long as it was a beautiful woman. Who they would not date is a fat chick. So you got a fat white chick versus a beautiful Nubian princess. They're going right after the black chick. They're going after the Asian chick. They're going after the Hispanic chick. They're going, whoever, just not the fat white chick.
12:14🔗CallerBut let's now get down to it. Isn't that a form of profiling? Because is it not true that A, it's just basically unattractive to see somebody who's really grossly obese, but two, that there's something very often wrong with people in the head who are grossly obese. It's not just that they're grossly obese and that's not particularly attractive, but they don't tend to be quite right in the head. Right.
12:37🔗DrewWell, there is people that are trauma survivors sometimes literally push people away by filling a large space and keeping people at a distance.
12:49🔗CallerI better put away my piece of pizza now.
12:50🔗DrewAnd there are genetic, there are genetic heritages. I mean, really what men are attracted to is health. That's symmetry and the skin coloration and hair. That's all about being attracted to those, collecting those genes. And so somebody who may have a genetic problem with weight would be less attractive to many men.
13:08🔗CallerWell, the symmetry part, I think, is amazing. I mean, if you see a woman who has regular, perfect symmetrical features, it is such an incredible turn on. I mean, I offer, because you showed me the picture of your wife before we went on the air. I've seen Adam's incredibly beautiful wife a number of times. My wife has perfectly symmetrical features. I mean, men love women with symmetrical features. There has to be something primal in the human brain saying they're going to give us better children.
13:36🔗DrewOf course. That's what we're looking for. We're looking for fertility and genes.
13:49🔗CallerBut apparently we still have large problems with housing discrimination according to our PSA that we play right now.
13:55🔗AdamOh, yeah. This is our favorite PSA. Ben, you didn't think the housing discrimination still went on that goes on out there, but listen to this public service announcement they play on this show regularly. Play it, Anderson.
14:51🔗AdamYeah, it's illegal. Anyone who lives in Los Angeles knows Mexicans can't get a apartment.
14:57🔗CallerThat's hilarious. I live in one of the, well, I mean, I'm sure it's very modest compared to your house, but I live in one of the very nicest parts of Beverly Hills. There's every kind of ethnicity imaginable in my neighborhood.
15:10🔗AdamImagine a Mexican or black guy or an Indian trying to live an apartment here in Los Angeles.
15:24🔗CallerI have a house out in Malibu. I mean, it's like a rainbow out there on my street. It's every every kind of color you can imagine.
15:30🔗DrewThe point is that they're trying to rent a space. They're going to rent it to anybody as long as they're not going to destroy it. That's a luck.
15:36🔗AdamHere's the bottom line. There's a lot of people get a lot of mileage out of basically cultivating this racism thing, which exists, but not to the point that they'd like to make it seem.
15:50🔗AdamIt's a business for them. Then they go ahead, I believe, and run this kind of crap, which just pisses off all the people that are depicted in it and makes them falsely think that we're living in a more racist environment than we actually are.
16:05🔗CallerI love your saying that because this was my main gripe against Al Gore in 2000, is when he was running, he was whipping up minorities and telling them they were being discriminated against. And when people would say to him, well, give us some concrete specific examples, he would say, oh, it's just in the air. It's so deeply ingrained. You don't need examples. It's just all over. It's in it's in the psyche of the white man. And if you can't see it and can't smell it and touch it, it's not there. It's just not happening. And compare whatever is there compared to what was there a generation or two generations ago is nil.
16:40🔗AdamAnd furthermore, hold on, you know, when Kerry gave his concession speech, he did that BS. But don't worry. By the way, I always like this part where you make your concession speech, you just got whooped and your speeches. Don't worry. I'm still on the job. It's like, look, buddy, you lost the game's over. How about hitting the showers and getting out of our face because we're tired of looking at your pie hole. And it's like, don't worry, I'm still on the job. What job, by the way, don't have it. You're out. Senator. Senator. But the point is, it's like as if he's running the country. And he's like, anywhere, there's a farmer that needs help anywhere. And then he does this whole thing. There's a mother who can't get welfare for anywhere. There's a person of color that wonders why they're being treated differently. It's like, really? You got to shake that whole racist snow globe up again, you old F. There's it's not going on. Yeah, it exists. It exists again, again, fat people, poor people, ugly people, short people. There's a form of sort of ism for just about everything. Let's face it, but go out, work hard, make some money, don't screw over anyone, and you'll be fine in the society we have built, by the way. Why do we have to keep whipping that horse?
17:53🔗CallerBecause there's votes in it, and there's votes in stimulating people's paranoia. There are a lot of people who cannot take responsibility for their own failures in life and would like to blame somebody else for it or blame racism for it. I mean, you know, I am the father of a very, very sweet teenage child, and I hear him and his teenage friends talking all the time. It's very easy for them to place blame for things on their parents, place blame for things on the schools. It's not easy for them to accept blame for themselves. That is a, that's a teenager, and that's fine. I mean, he's a wonderful kid, and I love him. But for an adult, the age of Carrie to be doing that is ridiculous.
18:30🔗DrewThe other thing I think, the generations coming up, your kids, your child's age, and my kid's age.
18:34🔗CallerBut your kids are quite a bit younger, I think, than mine.
18:36🔗DrewThey're 12, 13, yeah. But the idea of race, it's almost going away for them. They, well, no, seriously, no, no, no, listen.
18:45🔗DrewBut listen, they describe, they don't say this is a that kind of person. They say, well, his skin's, he got kind of brown skin, and he's got kind of curly hair, no, no, Ben.
18:58🔗AdamLet them spend a weekend with Uncle Adam. I'll straighten them out.
19:01🔗CallerYeah, let them spend a weekend with Tommy Stein and his friends because they really, they notice people's ethnicity very, very easily.
19:08🔗AdamI do flashcards. I do flashcards with my nephews. That too. I'll give them a quick Mexican flash, black guy. I'll just keep flashing.
19:15🔗CallerBut Tommy doesn't discriminate against them. I mean, he has friends of every ethnicity, but believe me, he notices their ethnicity. He especially notices people from Middle Eastern ethnicity and has very strong feelings about them. Profiling.
19:28🔗DrewIs that this growing up in this world climate kind of thing?
19:30🔗CallerNo, it's growing up in Beverly Hills. All right.
19:34🔗AdamWell, there you go. Let me just say one more thing before we get off this topic or whatever calls we might take tonight. The whole part where we have to sort of pay the price or make amends for what our forefathers did in terms of plantations and slaves and whatever. Japanese internment camps and all this kind of stuff. By the way, rounding up the Japanese, putting them somewhere for a couple of years and then letting them go. Not a great thing. Go on the Baton Death March. See which one you'd rather do.
20:07🔗AdamYeah, there's another good one. The point is, I have two nephews, both born German. I mean, they're fathers from Germany. Should they be held responsible for what went on in World War II?
20:30🔗AdamMy wife, both her parents were born in Italy. My family, one or two generations back, were born in Italy. We weren't here. We had no plantations, we had no slaves, we had no land. For Christ's sake, my dad doesn't even have any land. I'm the first guy who has any goddamned land in the Corolla family.
20:49🔗AdamYes, and my wife's parents are from Italy. They're born in Italy. You know, our kid will not have much history on this soil. Just like my nephews. They're German, their fathers are from Germany. Should I blame them for what they did to the Jews?
21:04🔗AdamYeah, I know. Let's just look. We weren't here. Most everyone, look around. Look around Los Angeles. These people weren't here. You know what I mean?
21:13🔗CallerThey could be. But even if their ancestors were there, I mean, it's really just not, there's no sense in blaming a great-great-grandchild or great-great-granddaughter for something done by her ancestors, especially if it was perfectly legal at the time. I mean, slavery was a moral horror show, a horror show, but it was legal. So. Yeah.
21:35🔗AdamNow look, there's no sense in doing it, but I'm just saying good luck finding, go ask around, see if you can find one of your buddies who's great, great, great, whoever, raised tobacco in Kentucky. It's going to have.
22:08🔗CallerI was, actually I have two questions. One was, I was wondering how Ben Stine got started on the whole acting thing from speech writing. And also, I'll get to the other one later.
22:21🔗CallerOkay. The first answer is, I came out here. I was a screenwriter and a novelist and a producer for a while. And I met a very wonderful man named Michael Chinich, who was a high executive in the casting world. He was a deputy head of production for Universal. He was my friend. He thought I was funny. He put me in a movie called The Wildlife, which was a sequel to Fast Times Ridgemont High. I had a small part, nobody noticed it. Then they put, then he went to work for John Hughes and John Hughes and he put me in Ferris Bueller. I ad-libbed those scenes in Ferris Bueller. They were a huge hit and a very successful movie. And I worked consistently after that.
22:57🔗AdamSo it was really a Ferris Bueller long, Right.
22:59🔗CallerAnd it was, and it was all ad-libbed. It was not one word of it was written.
23:05🔗CallerThey wanted me to play a teacher. John, you said, I know you're a teacher at Pepperdine in real life. And would you just teach a class about something that's interesting to you? And he was smart enough to know that even it was my monotone voice, that even if I, it was interesting to me, it would come out sounding boring. So that I taught, did that little speech about the supply side economics and voodoo economics. And I, and when they, when the cast and crew applauded, when I was done, I thought, oh, cause they're so happy to have learned something about economics. And when my father saw it, he was a famous economist, he said, oh my God, you really explained that well. That must be why people like the scene. But anyway, so then I worked on The Wonder Years for three years and then we had the game show and then I concurrently had the talk show and then Star Search. And now I hardly do any acting, but I do a huge amount of public speaking and I love doing it.
23:59🔗AdamYeah, but she couldn't come up with it. Gabby, did you come up with your second question? Ironic if someone named Gabby couldn't come up with their second question.
24:06🔗CallerGo ahead. It was actually for you. Back in the day when you would come on as a guest speaker, as Mr. Burcham on Kevin and Bean, you came on one day and you were talking about like all the world religions and you decided to come up with your own called Burchamism.
24:32🔗DrewAsk him if he remembers anything he said 25 minutes ago.
24:34🔗AdamNo, I don't remember. I don't remember anything I say.
24:37🔗CallerAnd I just wanted to mention to Ben Stine that Ferris Bueller's Day Off is my favorite movie of all time, so you rule. You are a god in my mind.
24:45🔗CallerWell, God bless you. God bless you. Where do you live, Gabby?
24:48🔗CallerI live in Berkeley, but I used to live in North Hollywood, Van Nuys area.
24:52🔗DrewOh, God, I drove through that today. Oh, Adam, I felt so bad for you. Yeah, well, all the Dell Lancashire from Sunland should sue my parents.
25:00🔗AdamAll right, we need to take a break, Gabby. The great Ben Stein, the inspirational Ben Stein in studio tonight. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
25:22🔗AdamYeah, it is the best of Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, no, I actually like these guys. I thought there were somebody else, but I got it now.
25:36🔗AdamLost is one of the biggest shows on television. Great looking show too, but a fantastic show. Maggie Grace is the smoking hot blonde who's plays the sister.
25:57🔗AdamA little taboo love going on with these two. So everyone enjoy from Lost Ian Summerholder and Maggie Grace. Yeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. Well, that would be Dr. Drew, but he's helping out a listener. Ian Summerholder here tonight, Maggie Grace, both from Lost, Wednesday Nights, ABC. 8 p.m. Best new show on television. And no signs of slowing down. I don't know how far in advance you guys know. Do you what? I know you couldn't talk about it if you did know. But how much do they tell you about plot and not so much? That sort of thing.
26:39🔗We have enough to go on, but not not so much that would overburden our performances in anyway.
26:43🔗AdamDo you have some local playa with booze and have you spill it all over the place? You know what I'm saying? I mean, if you knew, you could talk, right?
26:55🔗CallerThey know that we're actors and by virtue of that, we would be compelled to tell people like you.
27:06🔗CallerYou know what's really kind of interesting? I remember on the pilot and they do this sometimes as well. If Maggie needed to know, say A and B, but I didn't, but I needed to know K and F. They would tell us this, these two separate things.
27:18🔗Really? I knew things about his character that he didn't know.
27:20🔗CallerRight. And I know things about her that she still doesn't know.
27:41🔗CallerKind of broad strokes. I think all the little details sort of fall into place.
27:45🔗AdamRight. Yeah. Obviously, they don't know every nuance, every twist, every turn. But in terms of the broad strokes and the big picture, they know. Sometimes I wonder, with a lot of shows, if they don't know what... Like, everyone's sitting around going, I wonder what's on the island. I wonder what it is. I wonder what's going on. And I sometimes think, well, maybe they don't know yet.
28:04🔗CallerWell, you know, we definitely don't know that much. And we're only a couple... We're about four episodes ahead of what's airing. Which is, I guess, a significant amount, but you want more. For every resolve, there are five more questions, and that sort of makes it crazy.
28:19🔗AdamSo how many more do you have to do before... Are you still in season one? Because I'm getting the seasons broken up now.
28:38🔗AdamTake care of business? Let me smell your finger. That's disgusting, Drew. I can't believe you would hold it out to me. Come on, let's try to help the kids. Lily?
29:15🔗AdamSorry. Thanks for the compliment. Now, go ahead.
29:17🔗Okay. Well, I'm 17. I'm not a lesbian or anything, but for some reason, I'm like attracted to gay guys and like cross dressers. Because I live out in the Bay Area, and there's like tons of them, right?
29:29🔗True place. For some reason, like their personalities, everything about them, like I'm attracted to them. I don't know. For some reason, I'm attracted to them, and it's really confusing.
29:39🔗DrewGay males? Yeah. Well, gay males are a superior version of the male, would you say, generally? Yeah.
29:45🔗AdamThe only part they're missing is the part where they're attracted to your genitalia. They vomit if they see you naked, but other than that, it's great. Good listeners into what you're into, lots of recycling. Those people recycle, you know? What utopia we would be living in if everyone was gay? No street crime, nothing but recycling, manicured lawns. You ever see that gay? You see the stretch of Boys Town on Santa Monica Boulevard there?
30:12🔗AdamThey're this close to carpeting the place. It's like, there's nothing. I swear to God, you throw a piece of gum on the ground, you're tackled by the gay patrol. Drew, you ever been tackled by the gay patrol? No, it's not good.
30:26🔗AdamHere's what basically happened is Santa Monica runs from like East LA to the ocean, essentially, and there's one nice strip of it, and that's the gay park. There's three blocks of just pristine, I mean, the thing looks like some sort of five star resort. They're going to open like a driving range and a golf course.
30:46🔗CallerAnd what's so excruciating painful is that all the guys are as beautiful as the landscape.
31:36🔗CallerNo. Yeah. Really? It can happen. So maybe, maybe you'll meet one of those.
31:39🔗AdamYeah, but then he turns out to be gay. And then it gets weird because he had sex with him. And it's like, oh, my God. You see what I'm saying?
31:48🔗AdamAll right. Maybe this is happening. But this is an interesting point, which is as guys, we like lesbians, lipstick lesbians, but they don't really exist just in porn where they get two straight chicks, get them high and tell them to go at each other for 500 bucks. They're not truly lesbians. They're true lesbians. They're the chicks who work at the feed store, they work at the kennel, they work around animals.
32:10🔗CallerAnd they don't give you the time of day.
32:11🔗AdamYeah. Well, they're angry. They don't like you, but they're butch and they're stocky and they got that buzz cut and they're into black powder rifles and stuff like that and you don't need them. So it's not torture because you go, well, look at the hefty chick in the dungarees wearing the burlap shirt with the butch cut and no makeup. I don't need, I don't need any of that. That's not a waste, but you women, you see the guy who's 6'2, looking like Lucky Vanos, the scrub, winking, winking, with his cheeks are winking at you and he's recycling with his shirt off and you're like, no, I don't like recycling. Oh my God, this guy's, oh, he's got a puppy. Look at the puppy. They do, you know what they do? They're effing with women. Think about a guy, here's all I do. All I do is sit ups and walk a puppy down a pristine street. That's it with my shirt off and exfoliate. And I like read Oscar Wilde. I want nothing to do with you, honey. Think about it.
33:08🔗DrewIt's like you're effing with women, like you're tantalizing them.
33:13🔗AdamAll right. And you got time and you're crying and you want you want a little two seater and a smart cocktail. You know, you're taking a me day every couple of days, just going to the beach and reading some more. Right.
33:27🔗CallerAnd there's that forbidden fruit appeal.
33:28🔗AdamOh, my God. You could just turn him out. Just turn him around.
33:35🔗CallerWomen do love to change men. There's a big challenge.
33:38🔗AdamAnd then here's the real tantalizing part. You're super hot. There's all these slobs that are going after you all the time. And this guy wants nothing to do with you. It's like he finds you grotesque.
34:14🔗CallerThey're good at taking care of me and going shopping.
34:18🔗AdamYeah. But I mean, man, just talk about the project that would be the ultimate project.
34:24🔗CallerIsn't there someone on the phone that...
34:26🔗DrewYeah, that's what I'm saying again. Lily? Lily, here's the only thing I've noticed on the side what we've been discussing, which is that gay men can be just very...
34:36🔗DrewAll right, hold on. Listen, Lily, aside from the fact that gay men are just appealing in many, many ways, the one thing that I have noticed, the only pattern I have seen with women that hang around with people that are transsexual or gay, and this may or may not be you, it's not been a strong pattern I've seen, but occasionally they are raised with the idea that they should have been the other sex. The dad's always going, I wish you had been a little boy, I wish you had been a little boy.
35:34🔗DrewWhat happened to your dad by the way? What happened to your dad?
35:37🔗CallerMy dad, he left, or my mom left him when I was a baby. Why? I guess because my mom was, or my dad was abusive towards my mom.
35:46🔗AdamAnything that ends up in Mexico is always bad. Canada is a push. South of France means he started his own successful winery or something. That's alright, but if it ends in Mexico, that's a bad sign. Don't delve, Drew. Got it. Lily? Yeah? Here's what it means to me. It means you can't handle intimacy because any guy you're interested in doesn't really have the mathematical chance of being interested in you that way. It's a way of saving yourself. Your dad left, your dad broke your heart, your dad was a horrible guy. You're scared to get close and intimate with a guy, so you just go after guys that are either gay or they're other, you know, you're the close cousin of the one who goes after guys that are in prison. You can't handle an intimate relationship.
36:31🔗DrewIt makes sure that you're not going to be involved with these guys.
36:33🔗AdamYeah. And they're guys who just date strippers. It's sort of the same thing, although their logic I understand. Lily?
36:52🔗AdamYou just need a good, you need the right guy.
36:55🔗CallerSo like, how would I go about doing, like looking for the right guy?
36:59🔗DrewJust being open to the possibility of a relationship, that's all you gotta be. You gotta be willing to be close to somebody who's not unable to be close to you.
37:08🔗AdamAnd don't stand around with your arms folded. It means you're not available. In gay bars. In gay bars, yeah. Don't do that. Just go places where there's straight guys who like you and try not to be angry.
37:59🔗DrewWell, you have that list for 18-year-olds. She's coming up on 18.
38:03🔗AdamI did say that I would and I agreed when my wife agreed with this, that if you were a virgin until you're 18, I could turn you out. Are you a virgin, Lily?
39:02🔗AdamOkay. That I can make, actually, the same day. Yes, Drew?
39:07🔗DrewAnd how parents always talk, just reminded me how they talk about, well, we're gonna teach our kids how to drink responsibly. I think like, is there any of your illegal acts you want to teach your kids how to do responsibly?
39:16🔗DrewIt's illegal. It's illegal. Wherever they do it, it's illegal. Okay, some other illegal acts we'd like to, you want to give them some responsible illegal measures. Speeding, pot, anything else?
39:25🔗AdamYeah, they're cooking up a H. You don't want to get air in the syringe or anything, call it an embolism, right?
39:32🔗AdamYeah, hit it with the gauze. All right, let's take ourselves a little break. Drew, don't freak your kids out, by the way. You're gonna give them an eating disorder. You know what I mean?
39:42🔗AdamThe booze and the studying and everything. So let them be kids, you know what I mean? They're gonna have like a Mickey's Big Mouth at the park when they're 15 or 16. Come on, let them be kids.
39:54🔗DrewI'm so intense already, they pick up on that. I'm busy telling them to calm down. Oh, you are?
39:59🔗AdamYeah, but you're gonna freak on them. What if you find a roach? What if you find a joint roach in like one of the map sacks at 15, 16?
40:17🔗DrewI get assistance. But then I think to myself, huh, what if that's the right thing to do or just start setting limits and boundaries everywhere, and help.
40:23🔗AdamDo you think it would freak them out if you got help? Why don't you help them? That's what you do.
40:39🔗CallerWell, wouldn't you resent him for approaching upon?
40:43🔗AdamWe don't talk. No, it would be weird. It's weird. I agree. But on the other hand, it's weird having some fat bald guy come in with a ponytail and start talking big calves and sandals, start talking about sobriety. Don't hire that low-hard sober guy. December 26, 1971, took my first sip of single malt scotch. I didn't care what it took at that point, beautiful family, loving kids.
41:09🔗AdamIt all went up my nose. There's nothing more important to me than the truck. April 15, 1984, that's when the house caught on fire. Fell asleep with a tiparilla.
41:20🔗CallerBeen coming to meetings for 20 years, been sober for two hours.
41:23🔗AdamTwo years. But you know what? Tomorrow, tonight, later on tonight, I could go off at any time. I like that one. He's like, I've been sober for 126 years, but tomorrow, no guarantees. I got a pretty good feeling. You can't lift your arm anymore. I don't think you're going to be drinking.
41:59🔗DrewAll that massaging their sobriety may help keep them sober, but that's not true sobriety.
42:03🔗AdamI like when they do this one. It'd be easy for me to come up here and lie to you, but I'm not going to do it. Really? Could you please lie or just leave? Or how about you lie and leave? Leave and lie. All the way out to the parking lot. Just telling fables. Please go. You know the guy I like? I was thinking about today? The blowhard traffic school instructor. When you get in a car accident, there's two collisions. First one is car with the other car. The second collision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's your head hitting the street.
42:35🔗AdamYou know the person that said the same goddamn story a million times? You just want to stop them in the middle and just do it. You want to hit them with a dart-dipping curare in their neck and just have them fall over. Yeah.
42:49🔗AdamPeople, you could drive without seat belts and you might make it to the store tomorrow, but I promise you that it will fall over. Ian Summerholder is here tonight along with Maggie Grace from Lost 8PM ABC, Wednesday Nights. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
43:32🔗AdamHey, hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, fun number 1-800-W-N-N. All right, now, when we left off, we were going to speak with Theo. Now, Mira called up, wanted to know about taking the birth control. Drew's been on the internet.
43:44🔗DrewIt's looking good, but I want to confirm it before I give her the definite go-ahead.
43:47🔗AdamSo, Mira's going to stand hold. We'll talk to Theo, who is the author and artist behind the fabulous-
44:39🔗DrewNow we know we can bait Theo for new material. Whatever we just withhold his songs for a couple days, he'll show up with some new stuff.
44:45🔗Best OfYou know, y'all can take my number whenever you're having a lull night or whatever. Just give me a call. I'm awake and I'm here. I never know, man.
45:24🔗Best OfWhen it comes to FWBS, there's nothing they won't do. So ask away. It's time to play. Don't say I didn't warn you. It's Adam Corolla's favorite game. Germany or Florida.
45:33🔗DrewI like the words. I didn't get the tune. I didn't hear the tune.
45:36🔗AdamIt didn't sink in until about the one third.
46:32🔗DrewIt's up to Theo, but I really think that Fractured Flickers, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, he's not gonna find that one.
46:39🔗AdamNo one knows what you're talking about. All right.
47:19🔗CallerWell, I guess that's a matter of opinion, but we have hot sex, so is that good enough?
47:24🔗AdamHold on a second. Now they're bad. Now they're very unattractive. But that's all right. Hold on. We're going to talk to Jennifer about her lesbian relationship, and then we'll get back with Patricia. She's got a 17-year-old virgin boyfriend who won't have sex with her. She's 19. That's a twist. We'll be right back after this. It's the best of Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew.
48:16🔗DrewAnd coming up next is one of our best best.
48:19🔗AdamA guy we really enjoy from a little show called Arrested Development. Five Emmys, maybe you've heard of him. Will Arnett. There, buddy. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Will Arnett is here tonight from Arrested Development. Sunday nights, 830. Fox. Five Emmys. Count them, Drew.
49:25🔗DrewThe reason I was gonna ask is you brought this up and you told me I was wrong, and I am, of course, wrong. But there's somebody that sounds like you doing the OC. Yes.
49:38🔗Yeah. This week on an all new the OC. Because he kind of goes, oh, like he's like from Maryland.
49:45🔗DrewBut he's from Huntington Beach all of a sudden. Yeah.
49:48🔗AdamI do me a favor, do this one. Someone's killing this week on Vegas. Someone's killing show girls and Dan wants to know why.
49:59🔗This week on an all new Vegas, someone is killing show girls and Dan wants to know why.
50:08🔗AdamYeah. There you go. That was as much entertainer as I had from age 11 to 19. I was at just senior. I didn't even watch Vegas. I just watched them promo Vegas. And I was like, wow, this guy's got a car in his phone. And then I realized a car, I mean a phone in his car.
50:30🔗AdamYeah, I had the T-Bird. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, there's no wire on his phone.
50:33🔗Did he have a phone? There were a couple of people had those phones.
50:36🔗AdamHe had a phone in his car. I think I think Vegas was the first. And I was thinking, I was looking at my my life and I was thinking, Corolla, we barely have a toaster oven. Like it's a timeshare toaster. And we get it on Monday and Wednesday and Thursday. Yeah. No, we had to share. No. Well, we actually kept one toaster oven. Yeah.
50:56🔗AdamSo we'll and we'll also marry to Amy Poehler from Saturday Night Live, by the way, who's super funny and very talented and good looking too. You know, you don't normally get the good looking and the funny and the funny. Yeah. But Amy Poehler is very attractive and and very talented.
51:14🔗She got she got hugged last night by Bono. I don't know if anybody saw that.
51:28🔗AdamI had this great I I can't stand Bono, by the way, because he's always at some summit meeting or he's out here on the Capitol steps or he thinks he's running this country. He wants to know what's going on with this country. You know, so I thought first off, you're not from here, Bono or Bono or whatever you call yourself. There's a couple of things I think about. I think about you two. One is you got Bono and then you got the Edge and then you got Larry What's His Name. And I think how sad is it when you're Larry sandwiched in between the Edge and Bono and Bono on the Edge, and I'm Larry, you sound like an idiot, right? All right. But then I think I was thinking, look, go back to your crappy Ireland and get things straightened out over there. Don't worry about us. We're doing fine. No, no, he's over here doing his thing. And I thought, how would he like it if we did that to him? And then I thought, we sent Bob Seeger over to Ireland to straighten things out. And Bob just goes, hey Bono, yeah, I'm heading over to Ireland. I'm going to talk to the Congress or whatever you guys have on there.
52:38🔗DrewYeah, that's a rifle. Ted Nugent is a shotgun.
52:40🔗AdamTed is, see, here's the thing. You keep Ted. You keep Ted in your hip pocket because it's like, listen, if Bob Seeger's not working out, I will call Ted Nugent.
53:01🔗DrewIt was huge. And I thought to myself, you know, if, first of all, the Major League Baseball has a long and rich history of things flying out of the stands and only built in battalions, the only guy I've ever seen fly into the stands.
53:12🔗DrewI mean, the reality is even if somebody shot with a crossbow out of the stands, they should like hail security and get the guy arrested. You don't jump into the stand.
53:29🔗AdamYeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. I'm just saying, look, these athletes are like beaked up thoroughbreds. You know, they they know. I just mean, you ever see like a, you know, horse that pulls a plow? That's you, Drew.
53:52🔗AdamI'm just saying a bird could land on you and your fur would just do that. We wouldn't do it. These guys are like thoroughbreds. You try to get them into the gate, you know, their blood's coming out of their nostrils. And so there's veins coming out of the stuff. You agitate those guys, white or black, whatever they are, they're coming after you.
54:07🔗CallerThat's their thing. And if they don't perform exactly like you want, then everybody freaks out like, well, what, you know. But you do have to ask the question, would Michael Jordan have done it like a great player? Would Larry Bird have done it? No.
54:25🔗CallerYeah, he probably would have. Well, he would have hit a couple of women on the way and then he would have got to it.
54:30🔗AdamIt's clearly wrong, but these guys, one of the things that makes athletes great is shutting everything off and sort of like reacting. It's sort of like the great boxers, you know, they're not looking around. They don't really even know where they are. They just tunnel vision on what's in front of them. And when these guys just react, their reaction time is 10 times faster than ours. They get hit with a beer. It's like, I'm killing. I don't think they even know where they are. And I'm not defending them.
55:00🔗DrewYeah, I'm not sure I'd call that a trait that's like Hale.
55:03🔗AdamWell, look, here's all I'm saying. I'm not defending our test or whoever went into the stands. On the other hand, don't throw beer on somebody if you don't want to get your ass kicked. That's number one. I don't believe it's sort of like the zoo where there's a gorilla that could take your arms off, but there's a cage in between and we're going to torment it. No, there's just a small fence, so don't go torment them.
55:29🔗DrewGranted, there's a horrible behavior on both sides. Yeah.
55:33🔗CallerAnd it really goes to the heart. I mean, without getting into it, I don't have the time for it, but it is, and it's going to sound so liberal, which is really all it means is free liberal, which is hilarious that it's become a four-letter word, but the idea that that sort of display on Friday night is really such a manifestation of where we're at. It really is. And if anybody thinks that it's not, then they're wrong, because the whole idea of my respect, you disrespected me and trash talk and all those things that are now such a big part of our vernacular, that are just ridiculous notions and they're all about pride and misdirected anger and all this sort of junk.
56:25🔗AdamLike that wouldn't have happened 20 years ago either. I mean, forget about the athlete going up there. I don't think the fan would have walked down and tried to square up with the guy.
56:34🔗CallerPeople used to wear suits and wear hats and go to games.
56:36🔗AdamAnd there was a sort of there's there's no, you know, it's all it's like I always think about flying. Guys would have like an ascot and a blue blazer. Now I got a guy cut off sweats and a boner. One flip flop. That's what Southwest will get you. Guy's wearing a stocking.
57:23🔗AdamI don't mind a tank top, but the one where the bottom of the armpit goes down lower than your hip, that ain't a tank top. It's barely a poncho. Yeah, that's what Tyson wears into the ring. Just a towel with a hole in it. I don't need to be seeing stretch marks around your liver while I'm trying to eat my peanuts.
57:44🔗AdamYeah, this is all, this is where it all started in airline travel, and then, and now it's moved its way to the arena. But yeah, no one's right, everyone's wrong. But all I'm saying is, if you're a guy who, you gotta understand too, these guys were the big men on campus. I mean, they don't have anybody come, no one came up to them when they were 17, 6'6, 265, yeah, and started to pick on them. No one ever told these guys, no, you're sitting there, all of a sudden, you get hit in the back of the head with a beer. You just turn around. That's it, it's game on, it's a switch that's thrown.
58:19🔗DrewSpeaking of game on, let's take some calls.
58:47🔗CallerMy boyfriend is twice my age, and we've been dating for about six months, and we haven't done anything but kiss, and I was wondering if there's kind of a delicate way I could ask him why we're not having sex.
59:47🔗AdamWe all know how the game is played. Yeah, that'd be a good game. You could be the announcer, you'd be my, my, my Rod, Rod, Rod Rowdy, Rowdy, Rod, Rod, Roddy, Rod. Who was the, who was the, who was the announcer? No, uh, oh no, the price is right for all those.
1:01:44🔗AdamThat's a, part of this could be horrifying. I mean, your dad doing it to you is like sort of deeply disturbing, but your friend's dad is sort of frightening at the same time.
1:02:52🔗DrewYeah. I just got horrible. Imagine somebody that she was really attracted to. She's got all these issues with men, super attracted to this guy, guys want to have sex. What is up with this guy? All right. Let's just go and talk to him. We don't have enough information as you give you anything useful except to say you just need to talk with him. The fact that you won't talk with him is sort of bizarre. It's of course you would talk to him about something like this. You feel, go ahead and feel justified bringing it up.
1:03:16🔗AdamNow I'm going nuts with the announcer for the prizes, right?
1:03:21🔗AdamAll right. Well, I said it three times.
1:03:23🔗DrewSo none of us, neither of us had heard of it. Yeah.
1:03:27🔗AdamAll right. Anderson, you could jump in, too, buddy.
1:03:28🔗CallerYou know, I felt bad because I said Roddy Ryder Piper. I was completely on the wrong track. I thought you were talking about something else. So I looked it up for you, buddy.
1:03:54🔗AdamWe'll have to go. We'll go find his grave. Chris, go to Rod Roddy's grave during the next commercial and and bury yourself. Now, go find out what's not here.
1:04:03🔗DrewSo it looks like somebody should have outside of the haunted mansion.
1:04:05🔗AdamI don't trust you. So take a piece of paper and a pencil and stencils the gravestone and then bring it back to me.
1:04:13🔗AdamAll right. Or take a picture of it with your camera phone. But I want a current newspaper where the date is displayed next to it. All right.
1:04:42🔗AdamWell, sometimes you get a little whiff of ass. And it's like, oh, man, it can be rough. You're like, oh, my God, I'm banging a human.
1:04:52🔗DrewBut once again, doesn't that somewhat function based on who you're with? I mean, if it was somebody, you know, it was Claudia Schiffer, something like you like a little ass.
1:05:06🔗AdamYeah. Oh, no. Claudia Schiffer. It's like the next morning, like, could you please crap on my waffle? Thank you. Thank you. OK. That's fantastic. That's it. That's all I guess. I guess I'll spread it out. You know, now it's just a waffle because the divots eat it up pretty good. But no, no, no, that's what you got. That's what you got.
1:05:26🔗CallerYou know, they go for that. They go for that in Germany. Yeah, that was Germany. Yeah, they go for that.
1:05:35🔗DrewBut that's the thing, the beauty of man is what I'm saying. I mean, man, like they have certain times they're very sensitive. Other times it's like they saw their arm off and they're like, whatever.
1:06:31🔗AdamYou see Quincy Jones with those two waffle crappers on his arm when he came to the awards. Oh, they were smoking.
1:06:39🔗CallerOh, Mom and Dad, I can't wait till you meet her. I bring her home for Thanksgiving. She's a real waffle crapper.
1:06:44🔗Best OfYour mother was a waffle crapper at one time, too.
1:06:48🔗AdamI met her at a sock hop in 1961. I said to my buddy, I said that is a waffle crapper. I could see it from across the gym.
1:06:57🔗CallerAnd sure enough, yeah, it's even good in German, waffle crapper, waffle crapping time is over.
1:07:10🔗AdamYeah. Well, that's the whole thing. You marry her because she's a waffle crapper. And then, but then her personality starts coming through and she gets a little older and she gets a little long in the tooth and next thing you know, you got your secretary crapping on your waffle.
1:07:29🔗CallerYou got a trophy waffle crapper now.
1:07:31🔗DrewMy man, you complain to your secretary too. My wife used to be such a waffle crapper.
1:08:13🔗AdamChampion waffle crapper. Yeah. Legendary waffle crapper go-getter. Yeah, sure. Waffle crapper just sounds like, it sounds like a horrible German name.
1:09:46🔗AdamWell, it is the best of Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. And next up, a dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend who I knew long before I got in the show business, believe it or not. Yeah, best lay I had in the 80s. Oh, really? Mm-hmm, Kathy Griffin. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-L-V-E-1-9-1. Dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, disillusioned, disgruntled friend, disgusted, Kathy Griffin in studio tonight.
1:11:12🔗AdamThen I took a half a step toward the toilet and saw that it was a day glow yellow, and then launched into a jag about what is going on with society and guys not flushing the toilet, and people can't flip the cap down on the ketchup container.
1:11:30🔗DrewCause I was too busy listening to him. I was trying to get away from the fart. Well, it was the latrine. I used the latrine, not the toilet.
1:11:36🔗AdamYeah, he used the urinal, and that has an automatic flusher, which is now served to confuse people, because I think they think everything's an automatic flusher. But here's all I'm saying. I see a lot of this now, where you walk into the kitchen, and the microwave door's open. The person didn't have the decency to shut it. The ketchup is all crusty, the mustard's all crusty, because they didn't flip the cap down on it.
1:11:58🔗DrewThe coffee mug with the quarter inch of coffee sitting in it.
1:12:02🔗AdamEverything is filled. You go to the bathroom, go to the airport or something. It's just urinal after urinal filled with urine. People don't have the dignity to flush it. What is it? Is it a big F for you and everyone? Have we become that?
1:12:12🔗Best OfWell, girls' restrooms are the worst, because girls have this crazy, ridiculous irrational fear that if you sit on a toilet seat, you're going to get hurt.
1:12:25🔗Best OfEvery time I go to the public restroom, I have to stand there and clean it for like five minutes. They hover over it, right? Yeah, I don't hover. I sit right on it.
1:12:44🔗AdamNo, I know, but I find it interesting that women's number one complaint with men at the home is having the seat down and getting wee wee on the seat. But if you go to the public place.
1:12:59🔗AdamOh, well, speak for yourself. Pardon moi. So you then don't hover. You have to wipe off the yarn.
1:13:06🔗Best OfAnd I get a bunch of Kleenex and I wipe it all, wipe it down, and then I just sit down like a normal person. But I like to make a comment. No, I don't need that. I like to make a comment like some old lady will get out and then I'll look at the toilet seat and I'll splatter and I'll go, Oh, I guess I'll just clean up after your pee.
1:13:35🔗AdamNot had the chance to test that out. I'm going to build up something nice and head to Chicago and see what I can get done. I like the people that make their own sort of MacGyver-esque makeshift ass gasket out of toilet paper and then just leave it there like some sort of off right here. Oh, should I use it or perhaps I should carefully flip it over and use the other side. Listen, you idiot. You made an ass gasket. You took a dump. Now flush it. Jesus Christ. Why don't you just come over and rub some fecal matter on my car rear view mirror while you're at it. You whizzed up the thing. Just flush it. Just flush. That's all. Put the cap back on the goddamn ketchup, shut the microwave and flush the effing toilet. That's all. All right.
1:14:18🔗AdamAll right. No, I'm not saying even toothpaste. You know why? Because I'm talking workplace, other people. Well, you would do what you want at home, drive your spouse crazy, do whatever you want, drive your roommate nuts. But when you're out using the kitchen at the job or you're using the airport bathroom.
1:14:32🔗Best OfDo you and Lynette have separate bathrooms?
1:14:53🔗Best OfWhy would you whiz in the sink? Why?
1:14:56🔗AdamWell, first off, I like to look at myself when I whiz and there's usually, you know, and I'm a multitasker. I will oftentimes shave and whiz in the sink.
1:15:15🔗Best OfWhat if your wife was going to like say, oh, I need to wash out this tank top before I wear it tonight. I'll just wash out in the sink real fast. Which is where you pee.
1:15:22🔗AdamI would I would I would give it a sulfur tie dye. Yeah. Yeah.
1:15:31🔗AdamLet me let me tell you this. I used to whiz in the sink before Drew told me urine was sterile. And now that I found out it's sterile, I don't even move my toothbrush.
1:16:26🔗Best OfAll right. Driving down the street, nine-year-old kid on the side of the road at a trailer park, been over pants around his ankles, dog licking his butt.
1:18:20🔗CallerWell, I have a question actually that, hey, Kathy, how's it going? Okay. I had a question for both of you guys. I just got out of college a little while ago. I'm really into writing and comedy. And I wanted to know just kind of like how you guys got that first initial step into the business.
1:18:37🔗Best OfWe never get a question like this. It's always my father just gave it to me up the butt again and he's in the final stages of AIDS. This is a very lighthearted, I'm just thrilled.
1:18:54🔗AdamHow did you get started? Were you in Chicago?
1:18:56🔗Best OfI was in Chicago. I did my first commercial when I was 18 and I was in high school. And then I moved to Los Angeles and I joined the Groundlings. I did that for a long time and I guess-
1:19:04🔗DrewI don't know this about you. Did you always want to be comedy?
1:19:07🔗Best OfSince I was five years old. Oh, and I would say pursue it as much as you love it, but you really have to love it. If you're like on the fence or not sure, sometimes you get discouraged, it's not for you. You have to love it at any cost.
1:19:22🔗CallerAnd be able to make sacrifices for it.
1:19:24🔗Best OfYou have to do nothing but make sacrifices for it.
1:19:30🔗AdamI love money. That's the beauty of it.
1:19:33🔗Best OfWell, don't act like it's a really easy way to make money. Oh, comedy is an easy buck.
1:19:37🔗AdamNo, it's not. But if you can do it, you might as well do it and get paid instead of swinging a hammer. You can yell that and work with a bunch of racists who call their children the kid. Sam?
1:19:49🔗AdamWhat do you want to do? You want to write?
1:19:51🔗CallerYeah. Specifically, I do want to write. I've always been kind of into kind of the behind the scenes aspect rather than being on camera. But I really like to create a side.
1:19:59🔗Best OfWell, that's smart. All right. Well, you're already ahead of the game.
1:20:02🔗AdamYou need to, if you want to write, you need to write. You just write something every day. And get involved with some like, you know, improv troupe and write a bunch of sketches for them and do it that way. Have people do your material.
1:20:15🔗Best OfIsn't there stuff online you can just write and there's like websites where people just write stuff and...
1:20:18🔗CallerYeah, you can publish pretty much anything you want.
1:20:21🔗AdamIt also seems like a pretty good time. I know it wasn't that long ago, but when Kathy and I met, we probably met over at the Groundlings 15 years ago or so now, and there weren't that many outlets. Like, there was this whole thing where the cable was kind of just getting going. There wasn't all these reality shows. There certainly just, there wasn't 350 stations with 1,500 shows, 1,000 which you've never even heard of. It was just like, if you're funny, you're either sitcom material or you're not. And if you're not, well, have fun playing a cruise ship for the rest of your life. There's no place for you on TV. There was all this Bravo and TNN and Spike and Comedy Central. You know, think about what Comedy Central's offered. It's offered people who they wouldn't let on TV, guys like myself, maybe people like that. They've given a place for us to go. Some people that aren't necessarily...
1:21:30🔗CallerAdam, I think that the work you did on the Family Guy is hilarious.
1:21:33🔗AdamWell thank you. It was easy. They just told me what to say. All right, you ready to rock? Anyway, no excuses. No quick fixes. You just do it because you like to do it and if it works out, it works out. In any business. Just focus and do it. Have we ever heard a shortcut in this business?
1:21:58🔗AdamYeah, especially in comedy or writing or some people just do it.
1:22:01🔗DrewBut we hear the same thing from the musicians, talk to people who want to be musicians. We hear the same thing for every single creative endeavor. It's always about just, yeah, something you really got to do. You better just do it and do a lot of it and see what happens.
1:22:13🔗AdamAll right. Let's take ourselves a little break. Dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend, Kathy Griffin here. We'll take a break. Name of the new DVD, by the way, allegedly hot, hot, hot. The Gays Love It. We'll be right back after this.
1:23:04🔗AdamMan, I'm worried about eating more of these smoked almonds.
1:23:06🔗DrewYou know, it hasn't helped me back from that.
1:23:09🔗AdamYeah. You know, I was thinking... You know, it's nothing worse than... I remember being sick when I was a kid. Nothing worse than living in a dump and getting sick. Sitting around watching a bad black and white Zenith TV.
1:23:24🔗DrewRight. It makes the visual, the environment sort of reproduces how you're feeling. Or amplifies it, you know.
1:23:32🔗AdamWell, the whole thing is, is that if you live in a crappy house, your whole life is outside the house. Then you get locked out. Oh.
1:24:03🔗DrewAll right. I was reading an article recently that was strongly urging blood testing for diagnosis of herpes. And I thought, well, that's fine for herpes too, which is about 60% of the genital herpes. But what about that other 40% that's herpes type 1, which basically everyone has been exposed to. So if you test everybody to the antibody to that, everyone's going to look like they have that. So I don't know. I still think it's kind of a clinical diagnosis when someone gets sores in their genital what they've got.
1:24:30🔗AdamBut people don't normally, I mean, you can spread herpes from the mouth down to the genitals.
1:24:56🔗AdamCrotch. But anyway, it's still doable. I mean, you're sort of both right in the sense that, in the sense that just because you got something on your lip doesn't mean it's going to land on the inside of her hip.
1:25:35🔗CallerI'm like some ugly chick who like doesn't get guys. But with all my relationships, I've always like, you know, been pledging the guy or whatever, because I'm, I'm really, really, really scared for like, like I'm a virgin too. Like I'm just scared for guys to like go down on me or like put their hands down. I'm sick of this weird fear I have. Like I don't know why I have it.
1:25:55🔗AdamCan you, can you stop playing the saxophone? What's going on?
1:26:40🔗CallerMaybe, I was just, I don't know, I was just, I don't know.
1:26:42🔗DrewHere we go. So Jennifer has weird feelings.
1:26:44🔗AdamI just get mad at everyone at their immediate shutdown and denial of everything. It's like saxophone. What? No, no. That's music. That's not a saxophone.
1:26:59🔗CallerOkay. No, I don't. It's just on my computer. I'm just playing it.
1:27:02🔗AdamBecause, you know, I call them supply. I don't call them air, but that's it. But I can groove to that band. I'm finally glad that someone else is into the supply.
1:27:25🔗DrewJennifer, does anybody touch you down there conjure up any particular images or problems?
1:27:31🔗CallerNo. I don't have any problems. I think maybe it's even self-conscious about it. I'm with a guy right now and I don't know what to do because I don't particularly even like going down on guys. I mean, whatever. It's cool. I'll give a guy a head, whatever. Sure.
1:27:51🔗DrewWell, you slow down a little bit. You may be just not prepared, not in the right situation, not in the right relationship and just don't feel obliged to have to do these things just because everyone's doing them.
1:27:59🔗AdamJennifer, you sound a little anxious in general.
1:28:09🔗DrewOkay, listen, Jennifer, I think it's a nice protective mechanism you have in place from perhaps preventing you from doing things you aren't ready to do yet. So just relax. Just listen to your- These are good instincts. These are not bad ones. Don't force yourself to do things you're not ready to do.
1:28:36🔗DrewThere's an interesting thing out there where girls with low self-esteem are quick to have sex. Guys with high self-esteem have lots of sex.
1:28:44🔗CallerWhenever I listen to you guys talk to people, you always ask about their family life, and I have the best relationship with my parents. I have the best relationship with my dad. No one's ever done anything bad to me or anything.
1:28:52🔗DrewYeah. You're protecting yourself. That's good. You're taking care of yourself.
1:29:44🔗AdamNo, no. He used to, anyway, he called me. He called me, left a long drunken message on my phone machine Saturday night, and he was laughing because he works at Union Construction. And he said, on the, he was like all, he was all loaded, and he said, on the Porta Pani, he said, he went in there, and it said, Mexican Space Shuttle. And he started laughing like a mad man.
1:30:23🔗AdamIt's good. He was also the guy who informed me that, when he had the seat liners, you know, those, ask gaskets as they call them at the commercial buildings and in the airports and stuff at the toilets, he saw the sign that had an arrow pointing to it and said, free cowboy hats. I always liked that too. Mexican Space Shuttle.
1:30:48🔗AdamThey called back. Here's the problem with the drunken guy phone calls. It's never one. You get the second message. Okay, dude, don't tell. You get that, okay, I'm drunk. I got about four of them, but I always enjoy them. Amber?
1:31:04🔗AdamEspecially when you're dealing out that kind of top-notch entertainment. Yeah. What's up there, Amber?
1:31:10🔗CallerWell, I have trouble climaxing with intercourse, but with masturbation and oral sex. I was just wondering if there's anything wrong with me.
1:31:24🔗CallerOkay. I was also wondering if there's any kind of like, because I've seen like there's like creams at like sex shops to like increase it or like help it or whatever. I was kind of wondering if those actually work.
1:31:36🔗DrewYou probably will feel something, but I don't think it would change your basic mechanism.
1:31:39🔗AdamBut if you think they're going to work, well, you know how women are.
1:31:43🔗DrewBut it's still going to be primarily this for you. It's going to be unusual for you to have orgasm.
1:31:48🔗CallerI mean, is it going to be like this the rest of my life, or as I get older, is it?
1:31:52🔗AdamThat slot is going to start loosening up and paying off.
1:31:55🔗DrewIt's going to get, in about 10 years, get a little easier, and we might sort of get a little handle on it, so to speak. But it's going to basically be the same thing. This is most women do not have orgasm during intercourse. They only do it during oral sex.
1:32:46🔗AdamMan, I get TMJ. Oh, here's the thing, too. Amber's probably one of these chicks who probably squeezes one off every once in a while. And it's like, no, with the guy getting the oral, squeezes the one off in like nine minutes.
1:33:00🔗AdamSo the guy's feeling pretty good about himself. But the next one comes at minute 41. You know, the next session, the guy's like, what's going on? I know we've passed the point where we had one last time.
1:33:12🔗DrewRandomly reinforced behaviors cannot be extinguished, meaning he'll go back to the well for that nine minutes.
1:33:18🔗AdamI know, but it starts to wreak havoc on your mind when you realize, Jesus Christ, I've just listened to seven Led Zeppelin songs and nothing.
1:33:30🔗AdamWe're going to take a break. We'll be back. Well, that's the show. That's the week. Thank you all for tuning in. I want to give a little tip of the hat to those who made it possible. Number one on the list, Engineer Anderson.
1:34:11🔗AdamPut the whole week together. Number two, three and four, Engineer Anderson.
1:34:14🔗DrewDid Chris help too? No. No, no. Chris just lent his voice to the drops.
1:34:19🔗AdamYeah, that's... Well, actually, we'll listen to it, and if it comes out good, we'll know that Chris had a hand in it, because a man is synonymous with excellence.
1:34:27🔗AdamI'm gonna give Chris a little shout out anyway, Engineer Chris, for doing a... Actually, here's my shout out. Give me some coffee. All right. Engineer Chris, doing a great job all week long. I wanna thank Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior Producer, Lauren, and of course, Senior Producer, Ann, for doing a fantabulous job, and... Oh, Brian, for possibly screening some calls, so that where the hell was he? It was the best of. So, until next time, I'm Adam Crawford, Dr. Drew is saying, Mahala.
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