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Voiceover
Loveline is meant for an adult audience. Loveline may contain sexually oriented content. Sexually oriented content.
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Voiceover
With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800- oh, forget about that. It's the best of Loveline, Drew.
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Drew
Well, no, and the introduce for Ann really kicked my ass tonight. She goes, these are the best. We're going all the way back to the very, very best. So here we go.
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Adam
Dr. Drew, board certified physician. Still, I'm guessing unless your board's come up sometime between now and then.
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Adam
So tonight, who do we have on the show? Jenna Jameson. Dear, dear, dear friend. Dax Shepard and Seth Green from Up the River, in the river, up the river without a paddle.
2:06🔗
Adam
All right, buddy. Black Eyed Peas with Fergie and Taboo. I think they're Fergie, a little nutty. I think they got some Grammy nominations or something. I don't know. They're doing good. And of course, the nutty but lovable Macy Gray. So, let's start the show with Jenna Jameson. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Jenna Jameson in the studio tonight. Dear, dear friend, Jenna Jameson. The book is called How to Make Love Like a Porn Star. It is number nine on the New York Times Best Seller List, and it is a substantial piece of work. Almost 600 pages.
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Adam
It is. Substantial is a good word because it suggests that it's a powerful book and you could hurt somebody if you hit them with it.
3:20🔗
Drew
I thought you were going to say Taboo or something, and Adam would just go ahead and be like.
3:27🔗
Adam
Yeah. And who knew that Bela Gozzi would make a movie that late in his career? No, you didn't. He was in his late 80s when he shot the film.
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He didn't go there.
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Adam
Bella. I don't know if I've seen Bela Loves Jenna. Bela Loves Jenna. What year did that come out?
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Adam
Yeah. I thought these things had to accumulate over the course of, you know, 40 years or something.
4:04🔗
Adam
Yeah. So DV. Well, yeah, people used to rent them. And by the way, you know, it's, you know how we were look back on that guy sitting in a theater, sitting in a pussy cat theater. And like, imagine one day when I'm going to have to explain to your kids that yes, hundreds of men would gather in one theater and all watch communally three, four films in a row. They're going to be like, Uncle Adam, I don't understand. Did they have it? No. Oh, no. There was no Internet, my friend. How's that possible? We would have to lock arms. At least that's the way your Uncle Adam did it. And we would all sit in a crowded theater. And not watch one 60-minute film. Much like nine. I mean, you sit there for about seven hours.
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Adam
That's the way the Corollas did it, and will continue to do it. Because we're rich with traditions. But, okay, so the point is, so then you go from that, so that sounds bizarre now. Like telling, you're sitting with a bunch of dudes. What are you supposed to do? Well, you log it all, you get about nine hours in your brain, and then you hustle home, and you beat yourself to a pulp, you know? And it's like, okay, but now, we were talking about this when people were renting porn, and the idea of renting porn now sounds bizarre.
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Drew
How about, hey kids, you remember that, that television star, Pee Wee Herman, you used to like when you were a kid? Well, he went to one of these theaters.
5:40🔗
Adam
Because, I mean, you could literally go to a truck stop and get one for $6. Do you need to rent?
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Best Of
You know why I think that is? Is because I think more and more women are comfortable seeing porn.
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Adam
And who the hell wants to- You know, if you think about, all right, the movie costs three, four bucks to rent, but getting in your car, trucking it down to the thing, getting the humiliation running, running in so many went to high school with. I ran a movie called Porn Bloopers once, because it's like, well, I like to beat off and I got a sense of humor. This is like, this is tailor-made for me. You know what I mean? These were my two things, right? These are my two things.
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Adam
And Porn Bloopers. I rented Porn Bloopers, which was a disaster. And I was returning it, except I realized, oh, I have no cash. So I had to go out the car and fish through the change, you know, the ashtray thing and get like four bucks worth of quarters and nickels. And then the person behind the counter, someone I went to high school with, a chick. This guy's returning Bobby Hollander's Porn Bloopers and he's paying in nickels. Corolla gets followed up hard times.
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Adam
Boy, you captained the football team last time I saw you. What happened? Sad. Normally, she would be embarrassed because she's working at a video store. But no, not when the guy returns Porn Bloopers. You got any blooper reels, Jenna?
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Adam
Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. It's got the behind the scenes, got the director narrates, a little picture of the craft service table. It's all there. It's all there. Let me say this too about porn on the DVD format. You know where you're going. You know what I mean? Otherwise, you're fast forwarding. You can either scan through it, but it goes too slow, so you stop it and you go forward, but then you think you missed something, so you stop and go back.
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Best Of
Well, the cool thing about my movies now, I put a fetish menu, so you can pick out what you like the very best about porn, and it jumps to those exact scenes.
8:21🔗
Adam
I don't want to be confused with me giving pleasure to others. That's not what it's about. Drew, explain to Jenna that nobody receives oral like me.
8:29🔗
Drew
Oh, would you like to see this? It's really, you may be giving up some secrets that could show up in a film.
8:34🔗
Adam
Exactly. Well, what I want to say to Jenna is a lot of people talk about their prowess satisfying others. A lot of guys brag that they can bring a woman to climax or give her great oral sex or whatever.
8:46🔗
Adam
Not me, not me. But I'll tell you what I do do better than any guy in North America is I receive oral better. Do you know what I'm saying?
9:11🔗
Adam
But the point is a lot of guys, it's like you watch the Olympic sports. Everyone wants to win in the swimming and the track and field things. But the smart guys over collecting his medals in archery and ping pong and stuff. He goes where there's not much competition. You don't have to take on any brother that can squat 800 pounds, just a couple of nerds and you take home the gold and you got a gold medal. That's what I did with receiving oral. That's nice. I'm not even getting the line to the guys who claim they can go all night and bring a woman to the height of climax. I receive better than anybody and there's nobody who can take my, who can make lay claim to my throne, Drew. Do you understand?
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Adam
All right. I'm going to give you just a little sample of what I'm like. Okay, bring it on. This is probably part of my technique. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. Keep going. And that's it.
10:10🔗
Adam
No beating about the head with the knuckles. No resting the beer on the crown of the head. That is good stuff. Yeah.
10:22🔗
Adam
But I've refined my techniques over the years, too. I learned, for instance, put down the TiVo remote. That's something I learned just a few weeks ago. I mean, the point is, is I can always improve.
10:37🔗
Adam
I'm saying, take the pants all the way off. These are other. Oh, if you're going to take the pants off, unless you take the shoes off. These are all things. Always, I've honed my technique. Do you see what I'm saying, Drew? There's no matter how good you are, you can improve. That's what I'm saying.
10:58🔗
Adam
What you saw there, you thought was the pinnacle of receiving oral, but I'm still looking to move forward like any champion. Do you know what I mean? I don't look at my rear view. I don't look at my oral rear. I look through my oral windshield. You know what? Okay. There we go. You know what I'm saying? I would like to work with kids, handicapped kids who don't... The confidence that comes from receiving proper oral. You know what I mean? Properly receiving oral, I should say. Here we go. You're going to start talking and you've got to get them early too. You approach a guy 18, 19 years old, try to teach. No, it's like gymnastics. You get them with five, six, seven years old and really start working on the fundamentals. You don't do oral on them at that point. But again, start working on the posture, start to develop those muscles. It's just right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Caller
I don't know. My question is, I am 28 and I've never had an orgasm. I just want to know how abnormal that is, I guess, and if there's anything I can do.
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Best Of
Well, I don't think it's abnormal. I think that a lot of women, they aren't able to relax enough. They worry too much about other things that are happening, like whether or not they look fat, whether or not their man is truly in love with them, or there are a lot of different things that go through women's minds, and it's hard to relax enough to be able to get to that point where you orgasm. I've been through it, believe it or not, and it's all a matter of feeling comfortable and letting go.
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Adam
Women get up in their own head a little too much and get their own way, beside whatever biological wiring that is different in some women from woman to woman. But I do agree with Jenna that even the ones where the potential is there for an orgasm, they get up in their head sometimes.
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Drew
But what about now, that's interpersonal, that's with another person, what about if she's by herself?
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Best Of
Well, that's how it should begin. You should make sure that you practice. That always helps.
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Drew
We have a lot of women that call here, it's can't quite get in that place where those things happen to them.
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Drew
Well, no, but she's saying that the reason they're different, I want to be clarified, it's not they're different because they were told not to do it or something's wrong with them.
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Best Of
No, we believe that. I mean, from the time I was young, I certainly worried about whether what I was doing was right. But I got past that. But I certainly did. But yeah, it's kind of a hard thing. I know that once I've gotten, I got to the point where I trusted a man enough to be able to like not worry about whether my face looks stupid when I was orgasming, then it was fine, then it came easy to me.
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Drew
It's very common. It's much more common with masturbation than with a person. And at your age, it's much more common to have trouble orgasming. Oh, really?
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Drew
It is common at my age? For women, yeah. But at 28, you should be getting around to it. Yeah. It should be about time that things...
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Best Of
Well, every girl is different with what they like. Some like very minimal stimulation, some like very heavy stimulation. So there are toys that run the gamut.
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He does.
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Adam
At first when he said it was in the trunk, I thought, oh Christ, this is going to get nasty when he pulls this thing out. Then I realized, oh, it's actually on the car. I thought that was just more porn talk. But he went and got it.
15:47🔗
Adam
Oh, well, your maid commits suicide. You got to pay for like therapy for your maid. Exactly. My maid found this behemoth of a dork that was sitting around my house and probably thought, God knows what he does with this thing. I'm sure it had zero context other than the up the Tokai. There's only one place that thing could have gone. Yeah, very scary. And my whole thing is, I should throw it away, but it probably cost 65 bucks.
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Adam
I might use it to ward off like someone's trying to break into the house or something. It's a weapon. But no, I don't. Once in a while, I'll dab a little nivea on it and touch it just a little bit on my nipple. Yeah, just a little bit. Just a little bit. Come on, Drew. I have sensitive nipples. But that's un-rare. I mean, that's like three nights a week.
16:51🔗
Adam
Yeah. I got to feel. And it's poor for me to feel sexy. That's why I wear sexy underpants. And it's not for my lady. I do for me. You know what I'm saying. I like to feel good. I don't care what other people think. I need to feel sexy.
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We'll be right back.
17:05🔗
Adam
All right. We're going to take ourselves a little break. The Jenna Jameson in tonight. Name of the book. How to make love like a porn star. It is out as we speak. We'll take a quick break. Be right back. It's Loveline. Nay, the best of Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, and we move forward with the show. Yes, Drew?
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Drew
I want to just look back to Jenna Jameson. We just finished. Remember when she hit that, like a 12-carat canary diamond on her hand?
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So crazy.
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Adam
Oh, yeah. Big kasha. Big time. All right. Let's get going. Well, Seiko was the same way in the 70s. Let's get moving with Dax Shepard and Seth Green. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Seth Green is here.
18:42🔗
Adam
Without a Paddle is the name. And Dax Shepard destructed me as the world's greatest astronaut name, Dax Shepard.
19:01🔗
Best Of
There was a best-selling book in the 70s called The Adventures by Harold Robbins and my parents were reading the book when they were pregnant with me and the lead character's name was Dax.
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Best Of
He was a Spanish revolutionary, who laid every girl he met and yeah. It was a real smutty...
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Best Of
Well believe me, in Michigan, I don't know that there could have been a worse name. Charlotte might have been about...
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Best Of
It's funny. When people are confronted with something new, they refuse to believe that that could just possibly be.
19:50🔗
Adam
You hear a name like Dax and you assume... And the guy's in show business and he's on MTV or was on MTV.
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Best Of
But if you make that assumption about me, you're basically also making the assumption that I'm an ass.
20:01🔗
Best Of
Because if you think, oh, this guy made up this name Dax, then you must think I'm a real jerk, too.
20:07🔗
Best Of
Because if you told me, Dr. Drew, you said, my name's Lightning Bolt. I'd be like, A, you made it up. B, what kind of idiot makes up a name? Lightning Bolt.
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Adam
By the way, but that's why we make the assumption it makes us feel better about us. Right. You understand?
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Drew
But somebody could say, who gave you that name? You know what I mean? It's a nickname or something.
20:40🔗
Best Of
Yes. This is a true story. You could even call my mom to confirm this. But I had an earache. She took me to the doctor. Doctor looked at my ears and said, you know Dax is deaf. And my mom said, Dax isn't deaf. Dax, touch your nose. So I touched my nose. And then he said, okay, he turned me so I couldn't see her and said, now tell him to touch his nose. So she says Dax, touch your nose. I do nothing. I had scar tissue over both ear drums and was deaf. And so I couldn't talk. I had like 25 percent hearing in one ear. So I would grunt. I would try to talk. I had a surgery and they took away the scar tissue. And then I was talking like a month later.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's ridiculous.
21:38🔗
Best Of
I hope you can hear what I'm saying. I hope you can read between the lines. I want you in the studio. I don't care who watches.
21:59🔗
Caller
I'm 15 and I have a question about, if you have an alcoholic parent, what can you do as a child to help them?
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Best Of
But I enjoyed going to AA More because I'd rather be the guy that was causing all the problems and the people dealing with the problems.
22:51🔗
Adam
Okay. That's another one we got to straighten out too. How about something like Alateen?
22:57🔗
Drew
See, she's focused on curing the mom and not helping herself. That's one of the mistakes that people have when they're involved with alcoholic addicts. Really, all you can do is take care of yourself. The fact is, in my experience, that when these important relationships in the alcoholic's life begin taking care of themselves, they stop engaging in the dance with the alcoholic. They stop putting up with the BS. That actually wakes the alcoholic up very often. It gets them willing to get better. There's nothing you can do to make her better. You can certainly put her on notice that it's significantly affecting your life, refer her in the right direction, get her to go into AA if possible, get her to a Dictionologist. But all you can do for yourself is go to Allatee and Andrew Guettether.
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Best Of
I think the most important thing for you to recognize is that it's not a judgment on how much that person loves you, that they don't love me enough to quit, because they don't love themselves enough not to quit. They're miserable. Anyone who suffered from it hates it more than you could possibly hate it and they can't stop it for themselves. So you should never feel like it's any judgment on their loving you or not loving you.
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Adam
Yeah, and saving your parents or healing your parents. You should just work on getting away from them. Really, that's what you need to focus on. And then retribution, which is the stage I'm at now. Now it's payback time. Oh yeah. It's a bitch. Pixie?
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Yeah.
24:55🔗
Adam
Go ahead, Pixie. You got to get another motorcycle accident to build your confidence up. Go ahead, Pixie.
25:02🔗
Caller
Okay. I've been dating this guy for about a month, right? Every time we mess around, I can't get his penis fully hard. I mean, I'll do strip pieces. I'll do everything.
25:16🔗
Caller
Is it really large? Because sometimes that has an effect. If a guy has a really, really large penis, it won't get full.
25:44🔗
Caller
I don't think he is. I mean, him and his friend, they're living together. They're pretty homophobic.
25:55🔗
Adam
It's true. You hook these guys up to the TMSN monitor and show them some gay erotica. It's always the homophobes that set the thing off the charts. I've been busted a few times with that.
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Caller
Oh, I mean, it won't be fully erect, but usually when I do measure, it's about eight inches.
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Adam
Not fully erect. And again, because there's confusion, you measure the penis, Drew, from where?
26:52🔗
Caller
I've got the John Holmes of perineums. I'm the John. You could land an airplane on my perineum. I hope you like playing soccer on my perineum because there's room for all your friends. John Travolta actually landed his jet on the runway that I call my perineum.
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Caller
I tried to tour the Grand Canyon, but my perineum would not fit in its parameters. I've stored enough heat and food for the winter just to start my perineum.
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That's right.
27:37🔗
Caller
Perineum. Wait, now here's the question. So you're just not getting them completely hard?
27:55🔗
Caller
Exactly. I mean, I've never had an orgasm with him. And I'm like, OK, give me something to work with, you know, because I really... It's just like I'm pleasing him.
28:09🔗
Caller
He does, but he'll stop, like, he'll go and then every, like, you know, two to three minutes he'll stop, and he'll just finger me.
28:34🔗
Best Of
Well, I do want to say, though, if at the, you're at the month marker and he doesn't have, you know, you might want to...
28:40🔗
Caller
Yeah, I mean, we can, I've actually looked at his penis several times while he's giving me head, and it won't be erect.
28:50🔗
Caller
And I mean, even, even when he's like playing with my breast or something, I mean, they're just out there. So, I mean...
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You, you're fine.
29:07🔗
Adam
You are somebody who, who bases your soul worth on this planet to how seductive you can be to a man. So hooking you up with a guy that can't get a boner is like having a vegan work at a Black Angus restaurant. It's a retarded connection. It's unfortunate that you base your entire being on how many guys you can give a boner to in a weekend.
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Caller
But you're soliciting the approval of a guy who spends a lot of time living with another dude talking about how gay they're not while they slap each other on the ass with their half-armed wangs.
29:40🔗
Adam
So go find a guy. That's right. That's right. All you guys with big wangs. That's right.
29:46🔗
Adam
You're just you're like you're like a huge shotgun with no bullets in it. You know what I mean? Whereas I got I got the derringer in my sock. But it's deadly. It's deadly, man. But at close range, you got to be real close.
29:58🔗
Best Of
But honestly, Pixie, if you fell out of an airplane, you'd wish you had my perineum on your back.
30:13🔗
Best Of
Well, remember, I just laid on my stomach and you guys wrote it like a slip and slide for a few hours.
30:18🔗
Adam
Mamma. They use Dax's perineum, by the way. You know at the ballpark when it rains and I got to get the diamond?
30:33🔗
Adam
It says, if you look at it, it says Brewer's on it if you can see it. Well, it's unfurled. Yeah.
30:41🔗
Best Of
Sometimes if I'm driving real fast down a hill, my brakes get hot, I'll just let some of it out the window. Yeah. And it'll just be like a sock.
30:52🔗
Drew
I think that Pixie call. Yeah, we need a break. But Pixie call confused me. I don't think we.
31:03🔗
Drew
And sometimes when he's given me the advice not to base her whole worth and focus of her life on the male's appropriate advice.
31:12🔗
Best Of
That was pretty hard hitting, Drew, though, because I are, you know, Adam, because I kind of wanted it to keep going. And, you know, I applaud you for taking it off the sex track. Yeah, because I was I fell into it. She was getting exactly what she wanted for me. I wanted to know where she was at.
31:26🔗
Adam
Well, don't get me wrong. I want to get with some chicks. I'm saying you diked it up every once in a while. I wasn't saying stop the sexuality. I'm saying it turns a guy on if you see going down on a check. I hope that wasn't misinterpreted.
31:45🔗
Love Line will be right back, so get your problems ready.
32:12🔗
Adam
Yo, it's Loveline, the best of Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Well, enough with Jenna, enough with Dax, enough with Seth. It's time to welcome Hubba Stank. Yeah, everybody! It's Loveline! I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Hubba Stank in here tonight. Got the lovely Doug and Dan. Flew in all the way from Florida, Miami.
32:44🔗
Yeah. I'm just pissed about that. We have to have a little segment where you can just talk, because you got to, we came in from Miami. Might as well get your, you know, get your words in. I can't. I'll say bad words and it'll just get ugly.
33:03🔗
Don't look at me.
33:07🔗
Fine, now I'm home, but.
33:11🔗
But we just got the upgrade approval.
33:15🔗
Thank you. Thanks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
33:22🔗
And all we have to do is play an acoustic set on the plane, you know?
33:27🔗
Adam
It makes all the difference in the world. Yeah, it's like airplane. But let me ask you something, Doug. Doug, you're not a rangy guy. You're not a short guy, but what are you, 5'10?
33:38🔗
5'9?
33:42🔗
Good.
33:44🔗
Yeah, you really thought I was 5'9, but you threw 5'10.
33:46🔗
Adam
I was thinking 5'5. No. Okay, you're 5'9. And 1'60. With the hair, you're about 5'10. Your hair is tall right now.
34:08🔗
Adam
You know, it sounds like a pack of muscle. All right, here's all I'm saying. At 5'9, 1'40, if you got a guy who's like 6'2, and 200, it's the difference between business and coach almost. It's not in the service, just in the seat size. Like I'm 6'2, and coach is really made for guys. I mean, this is how they do it. If you're 5'10, you're gonna be comfortable. If you're 5'7, you'll be more comfortable. If you're 6'3, you're aft. I mean, your knees, when that person in front of you reclines their seat, your knees will be.
34:46🔗
Caller
I can pretzel my way into some interesting positions on Coach. I can get away with it better than you can, obviously.
34:54🔗
Adam
Yeah, I'm just saying. All I'm saying is, it's really... The number one thing in Coach... I mean, the number one thing in air travel is probably seat space. Like how much room do you got in your seat? And if you're broad-shouldered and you're lanky or tall, or you have long legs or you're heavy-set, there's going to be five hours in that chair is going to be a long ride. And if you're a dwarf, a high chair is first-class. And that's all I'm saying is the dwarfs complain a lot, but every flight is first-class.
35:26🔗
Caller
So it's even that much better for us when we get first-class. Just imagine how first-class feels to me.
35:36🔗
Adam
Most of the time when we get to the airport, we just request emergency exit rows because then you got the...
35:41🔗
You get the electric.
35:43🔗
Caller
You got to get the second row because the first-row emergency exit, they don't recline.
35:54🔗
Adam
Let's keep moving. But important tips for the kiddies who are flying. Don't wear flammable clothing and do not... I always like they're still pulling box cutters out. Like they retrieved like 1500 box cutters that people were trying to travel with last year. It's like, first off, how much... You're going to a box cutting convention or you got to do a box cutting demonstration in Orlando or... What are you doing with the box cutter, by the way?
36:34🔗
Adam
I guess they size them up and figure out that they're just stupid guys who have traveled with box cutters.
36:41🔗
Adam
I know. The point is, I read in the newspaper a few weeks back that they confiscated... I mean, it could have been 20,000 box cutters since 9-11. And I just thought, okay, I understand...
36:57🔗
Adam
Here's what we've learned from box cutter attacks. Two is too many, you know? But the point is, I understand the nail clippers. I even understand the occasional weapon, which is, I'm a guy who walks around with a knife in my boot, and I forgot to take it out when I went to the airport. The guy's stupid, but at least... Where's the box cutter factoring in? What are you doing with it? You're breaking down pallets or something? What are you doing with it? What do you got to travel with it?
37:25🔗
Adam
All right, this is just like the good white trash you see on Southwest, the guys that are flying in cut-off sweatpants and a wife beater and flip-flops. It's like, where are you going? To the beach? Like, are you flying from Cincinnati to the beach? Where are you going? Where are you going in your... You're wearing sweatpants with no pockets. Where are you going? What are you doing? You're wearing a sleeveless shirt and flip-flops. Does someone wake you up and push you on to this airplane? Does you not know you were leaving the day before? Want to wear a shirt with a pocket in it, perhaps? You can put a pen or your sunglasses in it or... Even a fanny pack at this point, you know? Like, where are you going?
38:11🔗
You are right.
38:30🔗
Caller
Well, I'm 16 and I just started hanging out with a different crowd, which is older than me. Well, they all were revealing clothes. Of course, I would do that too. Since I'm, I don't know, bigger than them, I got a touch. What do you mean bigger?
38:55🔗
Caller
Bigger chested. And so I got the attention of this guy and he ended up molesting me and now I feel like I have feelings for him.
39:54🔗
Drew
And there's no way to prove that he did this. So really what you got to do is stay away from these people.
40:21🔗
Adam
All right, so listen, Cecilia, why is it you like this guy? You must have a horrible father.
40:38🔗
Adam
In a way that it transcends logic. It's like this guy abused me, but I can't stop thinking about him.
40:45🔗
Caller
Yeah. Could it be that I'm attracted to him because I just broke up with my boyfriend too?
40:57🔗
Drew
Well, you're attracted to horrible people, but the fact is it's just like being an alcoholic. You have to break it. You have to stay away from this. You can't even tiptoe into this. You have to get away from this guy.
41:07🔗
Adam
Cecilia, I worry about you. I worry about the future. I worry about you getting pregnant and dropping out of school and becoming a statistic.
41:21🔗
Adam
So how about a little therapy? What can you do? Do you like school? Can you do something?
41:30🔗
Adam
Well, hold on a second. We got to talk about Cecilia for a second. Here's the problem. You got a 16-year-old who's dad was an a-hole who did God knows what before he left. And then you got Cecilia and all of a sudden she springs a set of boobs and gets guys who are attracted to her and she's getting the attention that she never got from daddy.
41:49🔗
Adam
And they're older guys and it's exciting. And what are you going to do to talk her out of this?
41:54🔗
Drew
You know what I mean? At least maybe she can hear the fact that the situation she was just in was not something that was good for her, that she wants to repeat. Maybe she'll believe us. This is a road she's going down where people like this will treat her more like that. And even perhaps worse things will happen. And the only way to break that or keep that from happening is to stop. Yeah. Step back, get back into school, do other things. You can get her out of there, go to college, be with people of her own age.
42:19🔗
Adam
But could you imagine for just one second? And I know Doug and possibly Dan had a decent childhood.
42:28🔗
Adam
Well, I don't want to eyeball him. But a year I had a horrible childhood. Drew was medium crappy. What if at age 15 and a half, you started really filling out your trousers and the ladies started noticing the older ladies. And all of a sudden you had 19 year old ladies coming by staring at your groin going, wow, that Drew's really filling out his shorts. Look at that. And then said, hey, you want to drink some wine coolers? It's like, I got my own van, you know, like how quick would you be on that?
43:01🔗
Adam
No, that's my point. I'm saying, would any of us have said no to it at 15 and a half or 16? How are you going to tell Cecilia to, now look, focus on schoolwork.
43:23🔗
Adam
He would have dropped out of school. Like they could have went like this 19 year old with the van and the wine cooler is going to want. I'm going to need you. Yes. I'm going to need my friends to have sex. I'm going to film it and then I need you to kill your parents. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. So I'll pick you up at 8.
43:43🔗
Adam
Do you be following the scent? Yeah. All right. Cecilia. Yeah. All right. Focus on school. Please.
43:58🔗
Drew
Stop handling bad guys. Realize that bad guys are not going to change. They're not going to treat you well. I know it's amazingly attractive to you, but don't go after those things that are super attractive because that source of that attraction is built on very, very serious pain.
44:11🔗
Adam
And let me say this. This is a second reason why society needs to really punish these deadbeat slash a-hole dads because of the lingering psychological damage. You know, we do this thing where, well, he molested his kid or he was an alcoholic or he physically was physically abusive or he left his family and his three-year-old daughter. And he went and started another family. But whatever, he's not a criminal. All he just left. But he is inflicted most of the time, irreparable mental imagery and abuse on his young daughter, who will then hook up with the succession of abusive guys who could possibly, I mean, what percentage of women who are killed by their abusive husbands had the abusive dad who never goes to jail?
45:01🔗
Adam
And the only thing that got him with the abusive, what turned out to be an abusive killer is the a-hole dad who is abusive. He's not yet, we don't hold him, he's not culpable at all. It's just like, well, he's not a great guy, but he led her down that path. Prostitution, whatever it is. Not the strippers.
45:29🔗
Adam
Just for kicks. All right, Hoobastank is here tonight. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.
45:36🔗
All right, guys, here's the deal.
45:37🔗
Caller
You're looking to hook up, sick of wasting time with the wrong person? One call is all you need to make.
45:42🔗
Call the Dateline.
45:43🔗
877-889-DATE.
45:49🔗
LOVE-191.
46:44🔗
Adam
Wow. I don't even have half a jet. Wow. Yeah. He doesn't like to brag because that ain't rock and roll, but the man owns a jet. He's doing all right. All right. So please welcome our dear, dear friend Dexter from the offspring. Everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Dexter's here from the offspring. Hi. A bit of a little panic. We're in the other room doing a little recording, and we saw Chris run. When you see Chris run, it puts the fear of God in you. When engineer Chris starts running for the door, that's trouble.
47:42🔗
Adam
They do, and once in a while, just freak the kid out when the serious profanity comes sailing past the lips. All right. Offspring, CD, what else? Splinter and let's take some calls. Some calls? Yes. Because that's the show.
48:09🔗
Yeah.
48:14🔗
Caller
Well, I've been dating my boyfriend for three months now, and I kind of have a problem. We just recently started having sex in the last month, and I always need to hear a celebrity's voice in order to get off.
48:31🔗
Caller
There's a couple of them, like Anthony Ketis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Steven Seagal is another one of them. And we always have to have sex over at my house and my apartment so I can play either a DVD or my CDs in the background. Or otherwise, I don't want to have sex.
49:06🔗
Caller
Oh, no. I mean, it's not necessarily even him that I need. There are several different people that will do it for me.
49:28🔗
Caller
Well, it depends. I mean, I used to date a guy that had a nice voice that actually turned me on, so I didn't really need that. But the guy that I'm dating right now, he has kind of a high whiny voice and it doesn't do it for me.
49:40🔗
Drew
It's the beauty of guys, too. It's like, yeah, whatever you need. Let's just figure it out. Let's go.
49:50🔗
Adam
All right. So this is weird. Anybody? How about Drew or me or Dexter? I mean, we're all quasi-celebrities. Nothing?
50:00🔗
Caller
No, it's not even the fact that they're celebrities. It's just that their particular voices just do something really...
50:11🔗
Do you?
50:18🔗
Caller
But the problem is, anyway, it's been about a month now that we've been having sex, and he's starting to think that it's weird that we're doing it at my house all the time, and that I would just have something recorded in the background.
50:30🔗
Adam
Think about the guy whose voice is entering your ears, or are you just hearing the voice?
50:53🔗
Adam
It's like saying, I have to hear the voice of a porn star when I'm receiving oral from my girl. It's like, no, you like to watch porn while you're getting sucked off. That's what you like to do.
51:14🔗
Adam
Shana? No, but it's not so much about the voice. She likes Norm. She's attracted to Norm MacDonald.
51:41🔗
Caller
But I'm really starting to care about the person that I'm dating and I don't want this to become an issue.
51:51🔗
Adam
I'll give you a hint. You can't play Under Siege 2 while your boyfriend's effing you. That's one way you can quit.
52:01🔗
Drew
Just you have to stop doing it and just focus on the intimacy and see if you can get a real connection.
52:07🔗
Adam
I was like, I want to come over the series of movies where I just come to the movie and we just have to find the modality of transportation. Like, hey, first one's on a boat, second one train, third one RV. You know, like, I don't think of the story anymore. I just got to think of where it takes place.
52:24🔗
Drew
Why don't you just follow the progression in the Green Eggs and Ham? On a boat or the goat?
52:31🔗
Adam
Or maybe I'll do it in this transportation progression. Like, first one takes place on one of those bicycles with the giant front wheel.
52:49🔗
Adam
That's a wheel carved into it. Yeah. Then we end up with the citation. Yeah. Commander Dexter on the flight deck. He doesn't call it the cockpit. That could be offensive. All right. Frank.
53:24🔗
Caller
I think I have the problem of it pointing downward. All right. What's the deal with that? Like, is it the anatomy or what?
53:36🔗
Drew
Well, anatomy is a description of what you're looking at. So they would have to be the anatomy.
53:41🔗
Adam
It's not a force field of downward facing dorks that's in your underpants is your actual penis, right? Yes.
53:49🔗
Drew
Yes. All right. Is this something you've acquired as you've gotten older or has it been there all the time?
54:07🔗
Drew
So your penis points downwards, has it always been that way or is it something that's developed recently?
54:26🔗
Adam
We understand. Listen, when you don't have a boner, your penis is zero shape. Everyone's dork is the same shape minus the boner.
54:35🔗
Adam
It's the same shape balloons have when they don't have air in them. You don't know which one you got until you blow into it.
54:50🔗
Drew
So this downward curve, something that has evolved recently or has it always been this way? Your penis?
54:57🔗
Drew
All right. So then that's something that sometimes will respond to vitamin E. Take about 800 units of vitamin E a day. If it doesn't get better, there are actually surgical interventions.
55:18🔗
Drew
No, if it's peronies, the peronies, the evolving thing can sometimes get better with that.
55:32🔗
Adam
No, I never had peronies. I don't got enough. That's right. It's like a fresh stock coming out from the soil. It can't wrap itself around the trellis. I see. It's barely peeking up from the earth.
56:03🔗
Yeah.
56:10🔗
Caller
Yeah. Because I'm not circumcised. I want to know if I should get circumcised or if I should just find someone else.
56:48🔗
Caller
Well, I've known her since I was a little. Our parents work together. So I've known her since I was probably about two or three.
57:18🔗
Adam
And listen, I don't know what the... Uh-uh. That sounds bad. I don't know what the statistics are on circumcision in the United States, but it was probably, I don't know, 50 percent 10 years ago or something, wasn't it? It wasn't it on the circumcision sort of... Was there a certain point where it was crossing and becoming more prevalent? No, no, I was going to say less prevalent, or maybe it's had a resurgence in the last few years.
58:09🔗
Drew
By the way, is anyone consulted with women on this point? Because everyone's thinking that they're always better worried that they're being abused in childhood by having their foreskin removed.
58:25🔗
Adam
Yeah. That's where we're going. Yeah. Same way. It's same way with, you know, first date. What kind of food you like? What movie do you want to see? What do I need? What do you like? A lambskin or latex gal? What do you... What can I do to get you to spread your legs?
58:39🔗
Drew
By the way, all these other a-holes can go on and get their... Leave their prepues right where it is. And I'm taking my kids off. On the hunch that they'll give them an edge.
58:46🔗
Adam
I like the idea that... I like the guys that are trying to stretch it with tape and weights and they've been traumatized and... Where are those guys? I haven't heard about them in a while.
58:57🔗
Adam
I used to hear about those guys. They went... What'd they do? They got onto something else. Yeah. They always get... It's always that same breed. It's that somehow they've been wounded. It's society's fault, but it's really their mom they have the beef with. Yes? Struggling with their sexuality, putting fishing weights on what's left of their foreskin, trying to stretch it back, crunching some numbers and giving some sort of bizarre data. It's really... It's the data people. They start talking about how thick the skin is on the head of your penis and how thick the skin is on guys who are uncircumcised versus... It's the same people with the 55,000 people dying of second-hand smoke. Just go get your data. What's your point? We'll make the data fit. Sort of like attorneys, really. Oh, who doesn't like them attorneys? Nicole?
59:58🔗
Caller
I recently got a phone call from like a telemarketer and it was actually for our phone sex line. And I found out that the boyfriend, my boyfriend I live with had a $1,500 phone sex line, phone bill.
1:00:13🔗
Adam
I love it when a guy gets popped and it's not me. Any guy gets popped other than me is great. Wow. I love that. And especially because the guy probably makes $1,500 every three months, right?
1:00:36🔗
Adam
Two jobs. By the way, two jobs, worse than one job and three jobs worse than two. And whenever you say, oh, this guy, he's got the world by the horse, he's got five jobs. That's always bad. I don't know why it is, but more jobs you work, the less money you make. Maybe it's commuting. I don't know what it is.
1:00:55🔗
Caller
So, he knows I know, but I just wanted to know is there, because he says that it's been like a month since he's called. And of course, it caused a fight. And I found out, you know, my how and when he had been calling.
1:01:08🔗
Adam
But what do you want to bet, by the way, like a month is into single digits? I mean, nine days.
1:01:14🔗
Caller
No, it's been the people faxed me actually a list of, you know, all the time he had called. And the last time was like a month ago. But I just wanted to know how, I don't know, the signs, I guess, of if it's going to happen again or.
1:01:36🔗
Caller
He says that, you know, he realized that it was wrong of him to do. And I kind of seen it as cheating.
1:01:42🔗
Drew
It's not cheating. Guys, well, it's not cheating. However, it does suggest it's suspicious for sexual addiction.
1:01:50🔗
Caller
Right. Yeah. He thinks. And after talking about it, he does think that he might have a sexual addiction to porn.
1:01:58🔗
Adam
Well, where is he? Where are you? Do you work a night shift or something and he's home during the day or?
1:02:07🔗
Adam
Yeah. I'll tell you, the devil makes work for idle hands. You live a guy alone in a house and I don't know, how old is he?
1:02:21🔗
Adam
And some cable and a computer and a little spice channel, whatever. You leave that guy home all day, well, you're gone all day. There's a jack fest going on in there.
1:02:30🔗
Caller
And I'm not one of those people that think, oh, guys shouldn't masturbate. Like, I understand masturbation.
1:02:40🔗
Caller
I just want to know if there's something I can do to maybe take the attention off of calling the sex lines and maybe.
1:02:48🔗
Drew
It depends if he's an addict or not. If he had a history of sexual trauma in childhood.
1:03:04🔗
Caller
It's just, he said that, you know, it's just like when he gets bored and I'm not home. And I guess he said that he just kind of goes blank and calls and doesn't think about the consequences at the time. I'm just worried that that's going to turn into.
1:03:23🔗
Caller
When he, maybe when he was like 16, but not since I've been with him, not for like three or four years.
1:03:32🔗
Adam
All right. Look, Drew, I'm no doctor, but here's what I'm going to say. I think you have to let it be known that, listen, I'm cool. You want to beat off, you want to beat off. This is not about you beating off.
1:03:46🔗
Adam
And it doesn't matter what we're talking about. Addiction is addiction. Right. And I'm not going to have the addiction part.
1:03:53🔗
Drew
And the question is if he, can he prevent the consequences? And if the consequences keep mounting, if the relationship starts having trouble, if his work fails, or he spends too much money and he still can't stop, that's addiction. I would check out the Delamo Treatment Center in Torrance.
1:04:07🔗
Adam
Yeah. Never beat off the phone sex once in my life. No, never had credit cards on the prompts. But hey, hey, hey.
1:04:18🔗
Adam
I know. They call me old fashion, but just pop in a porn and go to town. I really got to be talking to some. I don't want to talk to people having sex with it. That's what I do. It's like I call up phone sex lines, like shh, quiet down, sweetie, I'm beating off. I'm wearing it. Hey, I'm beating off. We can talk when you're done.
1:04:38🔗
Drew
Yeah, Adam, when you talk about beating off, you don't always have to give the sign the universal beat off sign.
1:04:46🔗
Adam
How are you going to know I'm talking about beating off unless my hand is doing the Yahtzee roll? All right. Dexter is here from The Offspring. Take a quick break. Be right back.
1:05:04🔗
Adam
If the January Playboy is any indication, 2005 is going to be hot, hot, hot. Thanks to Jenny McCarthy's steamy pictorial. Yes, we knew Fergie when she was-
1:05:47🔗
Adam
Wildflower. No, wild orchid. Wild orchid. That's all right. Yeah, I met her on Love Line, the TV show. Nice. Nutty, but nice. And I've had some celebrities get mad at me because I call them nutty, like Rose McGowan and stuff. Well, first off, you are nutty.
1:06:05🔗
Adam
Dave Arquette's nutty too. You can't get mad if I call you nutty because you're nutty. I don't just make it up. I'm just reporting the news. I'm not making it up.
1:06:22🔗
Adam
That's right. Please welcome the Black Eyed Peas, featuring Fergie and Taboo. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew for number 1-800-LOVE-191. The Black Eyed Peas are here tonight. Fergie and Taboo are in here. And we have...
1:06:44🔗
Adam
We did a little switcheroo. Anderson, Anderson, maybe you can play the Taboo theme song.
1:07:00🔗
Caller
I've been a big fan of Taboo. I've been a big fan of many adult films. Oh, really? Since I was young, you know, it taught me a lot about my manhood. Yeah.
1:07:24🔗
Caller
Well, you got to understand, I came from a place called Rosemead, which is in the San Diego Valley.
1:08:09🔗
Best Of
No, actually, it has the only Buddhist temple in North America. Oh, it's huge. The biggest one.
1:08:17🔗
Drew
Strangely, it was supposed to be in Temple City, but they're real-born in Hacienda Heights.
1:08:24🔗
Adam
So we got some locals out here. Teresa Pasadena, man. Pasadena. I'm North Hollywood. Yeah.
1:08:49🔗
Adam
I have been to several of them, but I've not been to the Old Town Hooters. Is that in there? They got one going?
1:09:02🔗
Adam
We're going to hear something else from the Black Eyed Peas, by the way, before the night is true, possibly in this break. Although, I'm not sure. I keep calling these breaks, but I should call them segments, right, Drew? And I'm not sure what the next song we're going to hear is, but we'll figure it out.
1:09:20🔗
Hi.
1:09:22🔗
What's going on?
1:09:28🔗
I love you.
1:09:32🔗
Caller
I did. I was wondering, I grew up watching Kids Incorporated, and I was wondering how you got involved with that and how your transition between TV and becoming like a big famous recording star went, like how did you get into show business at young?
1:09:56🔗
Best Of
You know, no. Actually, you know what, you're very original. You're an OG gangster. You know, you knew Kids Incorporated. That's very cool. You know, I did that since I was eight years old. I did it for six years and graduated from that and got out of the music business for a year and got back into it with Renee, who was on the show with me, did a group with her called Wild Orchid.
1:10:29🔗
Best Of
Yeah, it started a long time ago from when I was 15. Right. I actually stayed in the group for a long time, way longer than I should have personally, because I grew up as a people pleaser. You know, I wanted to make everyone happy. And so that's why I stayed in it so long. But I mean, I love the girls. They're amazing.
1:10:51🔗
Best Of
Well, we did break up, obviously. But it had nothing to do with the girls. You know, they're great people. I stayed with them for a long time.
1:11:01🔗
Best Of
I had been wanting to go a different direction for a long time. And I just didn't know how to express that. And that was a personal thing for me.
1:11:13🔗
Best Of
Well, I went in 1998. I went to go see them at the L. Ray Theatre in LA. And I you know, I've always been to a lot of hip hop shows. I've always been a huge hip hop fan. But I went to go see them. And something about them really intrigued me because it's not that they were these thug guys. They just were artistic. They were hip hop, but they were also a rock in the same sense. They had a band. You know, they were stylish in the way they dressed.
1:11:42🔗
Adam
How'd you make your way in? Because every time I see a concert, I think, I got a jam with that guy.
1:12:15🔗
Best Of
No, they're very good guys. But actually, they did their show and they're very normal guys. And after the show, they came out at the Elrith Theatre and they did their dance circle like they always do. They did their battle.
1:12:29🔗
Best Of
Yeah, they come out, they came out and just started battling, started a dance circle.
1:12:39🔗
Adam
I don't want to finish the story for you, but eventually you got into the band, right?
1:12:43🔗
Best Of
Well, no. I talked to Will and his name at the time was Will 1X. But I talked to him and I said, you know what, I really have to work with you guys. But at the time, I was with Wild Orchid and the record company. There was no way they were letting us do anything with any hip hop artists.
1:13:04🔗
Best Of
So I kept the number, saved it, went through everything I had to go through, ups and downs, a lot of downs. But yeah.
1:13:23🔗
Caller
We were doing an album called Elefunk, right? We had a song called Shut Up, right? Which was one of our singles. Right. We were looking for a female voice. Our friend Dante suggested Fergie. We were like, well, can Fergie sing? Yeah, she could sing. All right, let's bring her in. We brought her in. She knocked it out.
1:13:40🔗
Best Of
Yeah. But I mean, there's a lot of stuff that went in, in between that. So I was using myself for a while. This is and it was a very bad point in my life. I spent all my money that I had made from Wild Orchid.
1:13:56🔗
Best Of
Well, I had been a child actor. I had done Kids Incorporated for my big acting debut.
1:14:06🔗
Jennifer Lam-Huitt.
1:14:09🔗
Adam
Yeah. Can you introduce me to her by the way? That was a personal call then 20 minutes ago.
1:14:13🔗
Best Of
Yeah, exactly. I mean, there's a lot of things that have happened in my life. I mean, I could go through it. It's going to take a long time.
1:14:19🔗
Adam
Well, no, I don't think we need to do that. But all I'm saying is, is you checked out the Black Eyed Peas, you were in the band. You wanted to be part of the band and the band called you.
1:14:30🔗
Best Of
No, you know, it's not that I wanted to be part of the band. I mean, I love them. I was a fan of them. I can do a lot of hip hop concerts and something about them attracted me because it wasn't the stug.
1:14:45🔗
Best Of
You know what? I wouldn't say I didn't want to be in the band, but I would never plan to be in the band.
1:14:56🔗
Best Of
I was never saying that I was going to be in the Black Eyed Peas. I would have never thought that at all.
1:15:11🔗
Caller
Well, I've been clean now for 13 months. I shot up methamphetamine since I was 15. I've been doing drugs pretty much since I was 12. And since I've been clean, like I would say maybe once a month, maybe not even that often. I have like actual dreams, like more flashbacks of shooting up and I wake up and I'm like sweating and crying. My question is, I was wondering if that's something I'm going to have to deal with my whole life or will it eventually go away?
1:15:37🔗
Drew
Probably not. They're actually very positive when you have dreams like that. They're reminding you of what it feels like to do that and to wake up feeling guilty and miserable is sort of a rehearsal process. It's a similar kind of dream to people say, dreaming that they went into a test unprepared or on the stage and not knowing the music or something. It just motivates you to stay where you are.
1:16:10🔗
Best Of
No, but I actually can talk about this because I had an experience with crystal methamphetamine and it was for about a year and it's a very powerful drug, a very addictive drug and I didn't know it when I started using it. I completely understand that you have visions because you have sleep deprivation, and that's what it's from. You have-
1:16:31🔗
Drew
Well, no, it's a year and a half later. She's sleeping normally and now she's having dreams of using dreams and the part of it is-
1:16:40🔗
Drew
It's really, this is such a profound alteration of the brain's motivational systems that it's always there driving you back and it becomes visualized in dreams once in a while and then you react to them and that's good.
1:17:02🔗
Caller
I started doing meth when I was 15. I think the last year and a half was just straight shooting it.
1:17:15🔗
Drew
Congratulations. It's interesting. The two things that usually happen when people shooting a lot of speed is one, you start picking on everything. Did you do that?
1:17:30🔗
Drew
When you were using, when you were using, I mean picking your skin till you get ulcers and things.
1:17:37🔗
Drew
Yeah. And then the paranoia is that develop. Can you describe the paranoia when you had it?
1:17:42🔗
Caller
Yeah, I had paranoia. And actually, I kind of have another question. It's about like I've been hallucinating.
1:17:53🔗
Adam
Have you ever on the show told said someone? Yeah. And tell us, tell us how that made you feel. Had him give you an answer?
1:18:03🔗
Adam
All right. She's got another question. Wait, this is enough questions, Sarah. We spent enough time with you. What are you doing for your sobriety?
1:18:12🔗
Caller
Well, I'm going to start going to classes again. I actually got out of treatment early. I just-
1:18:55🔗
Adam
It's insidious. I don't know. To me, they're happy drugs and then they're bad drugs. And the speed is a bad one. I like the happy ones.
1:19:04🔗
Drew
The speed. Yeah. Me too. Even if you're using it three times a week, you can be addicted. It can change your thinking. It can damage your brain.
1:19:10🔗
Best Of
I think they should actually make classes about that in high school. I think they should make classes to make that more known that that's that addictive.
1:19:23🔗
Adam
And then my, oh, my cell is a ceramics major. How? I had to make a pinch pot ashtray. Are you kidding? These are, these are the important life decisions. Do you go coil pot or do you go slab pot? Do you fire in a kiln or do you use the riku firing method? Felspar? Whether it's felspar.
1:19:46🔗
Adam
Do you realize what that's, you know how much money I've made off my ceramics? Zero. No. Zero.
1:19:54🔗
Adam
I'll tell you the only thing it's done. My wife went down to that Color Me Mine place and made me an ashtray and all I did was critique it. You call that an ashtray? What did you do? Was that a pinch? Pinch ashtray? That sucks. What kind of glaze were you using? This wasn't fired at the right temperature. Take it back. It's really almost cost me my relationship. That's all. I just become critical of other people's ceramic work. I do nothing myself.
1:20:20🔗
Adam
No. I've walked, Pat, I've walked that, by the way, these are these places where you can buy it.
1:20:28🔗
Adam
It's really, it's the equivalent of a dog park for people. Like you can go around and sniff people's ass and work with something and then fire something and then leave with it. You get to work with clay in a supervised environment.
1:20:43🔗
Adam
Well, that one you paint. I think this one, once in a while they give you a hump of clay and there's places where you get to actually do something. But I pass these places and I go, how do they stay in business? How many of those ceramic clowns can you sell? It's like, well, the clown is four bucks and then the glaze is 350 and then it's eight bucks. Still, how many of those you got to move to make a business go here? I'm not sure if they're around, as a matter of fact, anymore. But anyway, I was a ceramics major in high school. I just think, you know, we sit around and do the show and we think about all the things that they don't prepare you for. Meanwhile, they're busy filling your head with nonsense. I know how to make Pillsbury Parmesan popovers, by the way, from my junior high cooking class.
1:21:34🔗
Adam
I made a pillowcase in my sewing class. Like I'm sewing now. Please, forcing guys to do this nonsense too. How dare you?
1:21:47🔗
Adam
You're right. Heather? Yeah. I'm going to go back and sue the LA Unified School District. Yeah. I'm telling you. Here's how it's going to work. My lawyer is going to pull down a map of the United States and he's going to go, Adam, find California. I'm going to walk up and point at Montana. I go, and he's just go, we rest our case, we rest. Your honor, we rest. He's a complete imbecile.
1:22:16🔗
Fine.
1:22:17🔗
Adam
Who fought in the Civil War, Adam? Good guys and bad guys? I don't know. One group dudes like the black guys. I know that much.
1:22:29🔗
Yeah.
1:22:34🔗
Yeah.
1:22:38🔗
Caller
Got a question for you. All right. I've been having sex since I was 17. Been with a few people and never in any of the times I've had sex have I ever had an orgasm during sex. I'm curious, what can I do myself to make myself have an orgasm during sex?
1:23:03🔗
Caller
Oh, okay. Well, take a trip to Pasadena. I don't even know where that is. There's this adult bookstore and they have many, many toys that you could play with.
1:23:15🔗
Caller
What I'm wondering is, is there any way that I can do it by having sex? I've tried toys and oral sex and all that works, but I'm wondering if sex can...
1:23:39🔗
Best Of
Well, I mean, I just think, you know, from experience, I think it's more mental, and I think that it's a very personal thing, and when you have an orgasm, it's very personal, and women are...
1:23:52🔗
Best Of
Yeah. I think that it's... Because I used to be like that as well, and I think that it's just about letting go and being able to accept certain things while you're in the presence of another person.
1:24:03🔗
Adam
I was just thinking, guys don't have personal orgasm. We got orgasm, like, hey, you want some? There you go. There you go. That's some for you. You got any friends want some? I don't need it. I'm done with it. Like, very personal. Drew, is there a guy ever been born and said, yeah, my orgasms are very personal?
1:24:24🔗
Drew
We don't know what they're talking about. We hear like the music starts playing. I mean, they said when I'm talking like that.
1:24:29🔗
Adam
Well, yeah, here's the thing, though. Heather, you're having an orgasm through oral sex, though. Right.
1:24:50🔗
Adam
That's not what you don't have. No, you got that part down. What I'm saying is don't feel like you're you're you're cheated. Here's what I'm saying. You're a person that's driving around in a Range Rover and looking at people in Ferraris and want to know why you don't have one. Look at the guy in the Chevy Vega and appreciate your Range Rover. Do you see what I'm saying? There are many women who have have it worse. They don't have an orgasm through diddling themselves or through oral sex. They don't. They can't have one period. You're 21. You're having three different kinds of orgasm. You're just missing the, you know, the the jewel in the crown. Fine. I bet that one that one ain't ain't far away. There you go. All right. The Black Eyed Peas are here tonight.
1:26:02🔗
Adam
Hey, it's the Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, it's the best of Loveline. Well, we'll say goodbye to Fergie and Taboo from the Black Eyed Peas. Here's a woman who I think is an amazing talent and is the most color nutty, I'll call her colorful.
1:26:23🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's her, everybody. Welcome Macy Gray. Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Macy Gray is our guest tonight. She just woke up.
1:26:50🔗
Caller
I am just wondering if talking dirty, like during sex, is going to affect my relationship.
1:27:00🔗
Caller
No, like neither one of us really needs it. It's just something that's been lately happening probably half the time when we have sex.
1:27:44🔗
Caller
Like, I don't know, just stuff like that. It's not something I would normally say. And so I don't know.
1:27:49🔗
Drew
Yeah, he needs to do that. Yeah, either one of two things, either he had some other girlfriend that needed it and taught him that's something that she liked, therefore all women like, men tend to generalize, or he needs to talk like that. Those are the only two options.
1:28:10🔗
Adam
He's 22? Here's the thing is sometimes, first off, never met a woman that didn't like just a little rough trait. Just a little. Macy's smiling.
1:28:21🔗
Adam
She likes it. Nothing too, just a little tug on the hair and a tap on the ass every once in a while. He gets your head back. Yeah, he gets the feeling you like it a little bit and that's why he's moving forward with it.
1:28:38🔗
Drew
The only way it would is if you really start, if this is the beginning of a path that he's heading down, and if he gets into more and more fetishistic behaviors, that will diminish your intimacy and take you away from a little bit. You'll start to feel weird, but if it's just an issue of taste, so to speak, this ain't going anywhere.
1:28:58🔗
Adam
But also, it's still nice to probably break it up a little bit and leave it out every once in a while.
1:29:04🔗
Drew
I did an interesting CNN thing tonight where they have found that several or many of the firemen, the brethren, that were sort of brought in to console the widows of the fallen brethren. Guys with families and things end up picking up on these young ladies and leaving their wives.
1:29:23🔗
Adam
Wow. You mean after 9-11? Yes. That firemen who were, well, a lot of firemen came to New York from other parts of the country.
1:29:32🔗
Drew
Most of these guys were guys from the same station who were actually at the event. So they were all themselves were traumatized. It's all kinds of things going on that can cause people to do that. But not the least of which, think about what we've always said about men. This is your buddy's wife, always been kind of attracted. You know what I mean? Yeah. Now he moves in.
1:29:51🔗
Adam
It's like, what? Guys will do that. I mean, your boyfriend could kill himself in five minutes, let her guy be there like going, oh, this must be a tough time and hugging him and then trying to make out with you. The only part I like is if he is best friend, if the girl stops him when the guy goes, oh, yeah, I don't know what came over me. What was I thinking?
1:30:19🔗
Adam
Guys are sort of guys have a sort of physical agenda that can't really be altered by with words or or situations or events.
1:30:32🔗
Adam
Most 22 year old guys, if there's a funeral goes on for more than 20 minutes, we'll get a boner at some point in the funeral. It's documented. I used a two-message monitor and realized that most guys get boners. This how guys are, Macy.
1:31:15🔗
Drew
Not even naughty, but sort of where they can't control themselves, the behavior that men fall victim to?
1:31:20🔗
Adam
Yeah. There's a handful of guys that women will present themselves to. And then the rest have to just sort of slug it out in the trenches.
1:31:32🔗
Adam
Yeah. Well, you see, women say that. They go, I have chemistry with this one guy. You and every other broad, you know, has chemistry with this one guy. So I don't know what it is that he's putting out that works in the chemistry department. And also he knows how to move his cohunga.
1:31:50🔗
Adam
I know that in advance. No, you know it then you know it when he's on top of you. But how do you know when you're at the club at the funeral or at the funeral?
1:32:01🔗
Best Of
Yeah, but like subtle evidence that I mean, it's the guy like you can't say in private.
1:32:14🔗
Adam
Well, you know the guys, those guys you assume, the women just assume are better than they are and they all get with him and all that kind of stuff and he's probably no different than, and then there's the guys that are where they're at and then the guys that women assume are worse than they actually are.
1:32:44🔗
Drew
No, he ejaculated too quickly. He didn't give a rat's ass what was happening with women. And at his autopsy, there was some anatomical deficiencies.
1:33:05🔗
Adam
Women, women, women like square buckles on a guy's shoes and a front girl, a hat that's shaped like the roof of Taco Bell and and conquering Europe.
1:33:27🔗
Adam
Yeah. All right. Here I say I haven't I don't want to jinx it. I haven't conquered Europe, but I'm conquering Europe.
1:34:03🔗
Adam
Well, that's the show. I want to thank Jenna Jameson and Dax Shepard, Seth Green, Huba Stank, The Offspring, Black Eyed Peas, Macy Gray. Wow, what a show.
1:34:23🔗
Adam
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