0:59🔗VoiceoverSexually-oriented content. Listener discretion is advised. Listener discretion is advised. This is Loveline. With Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:14🔗VoiceoverYeah, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist, Wesley and Douglas here tonight from Of Mudd. Good to see you guys. Thanks. We, I decided somehow that the band hadn't been in a long time. That's what I thought. Arbitrarily. I think you thought it because I decided a couple days ago. Once in a while, every six guests who comes on the show just randomly, I say, huh, we haven't seen them in a while. What's up with them? Yeah, where they been? Well, Wesley says they were in seven months ago.
1:51🔗DrewThey were definitely in this studio, so it had to be less than a year or so.
1:56🔗AdamWell, anyway. Where are you guys? Oh, no. You've only been coming for seven months. Well, good to see you.
2:02🔗DrewI just saw them at CNN today. We were in the same studio, basically.
2:27🔗AdamLife On Display, by the way, is the name of the CD, which we're going to hear a couple things off of. Also, they're going to be with Nickelback at The Greek coming up on the 26th of August. And just found out before the show started, going on a tour, going to Germany, going to Iraq. Yes?
2:48🔗AdamPlaying for the troops, right? Is that the only thing you can do? That's all you can do there, right?
2:53🔗Puddle Of MuddThose guys are over there, the men and women are over there in 120 degree heat with full gear on and backpacks and combat boots and they're sweating their brains off in the shade and the least you could do is go over there and play some rock music for them and let them have a good time. So that's what we're doing.
3:16🔗Puddle Of MuddGo over there and hang out with the boys and the girls and have a good time doing it. They deserve it for sure.
3:24🔗AdamI don't want to correct you but I think it's more like 130 over there now.
3:29🔗Puddle Of MuddThat's in the shade. I was just talking about in the shade it's 120.
3:32🔗AdamOh yeah, it's 130 as soon as you step out from under the palm frond. But it's probably dipped down into the 120s, high teens in the shade by the time you guys get there. You can look for a break. Oh, at night it gets down to 111, 113.
3:46🔗Puddle Of MuddI got to tell you, I ran into this soldier from, you know, he was there and he was in the airport sitting there and I was talking to him and he was cold. It was like 72 degrees in the airport, cool temperature but this guy was like, yeah man, it's like 120 in the shade over there. I'm freezing right now. I'm just glad to be going home. I'm gonna keep back out in the heat.
4:13🔗AdamYeah, you know, I got a couple theories about this. First off, I couldn't imagine that place with an ocean breeze and 74 degrees. I would be miserable. In Iraq? At 130, I would have to put the gun in my mouth. Yeah, Iraq.
4:31🔗AdamWell, heat can take a situation that's bad and make it unbearable. You know what I mean? If you're doing some manual labor, you're working, you're doing some construction, you're up on a roof. If it's 85 degrees, it's a tough job to get your hands dirty. If it's 115, it's the end of the world. I would imagine the same with wearing full camis and combats and body armor and all this kind of stuff and just walking through essentially a giant ashtray. Well, let's not make it, let's make a giant cat box. That's the way I look at it. And then I start thinking, everything that has to do with when stuff goes to the desert, it gets mean because it has to get mean to survive. Like cactus, look at a cactus, everybody.
5:18🔗AdamThe lizards are covered with spikes. And then you got like sidewinders. And everything is just, look, you're gonna get eaten and there's no water. It's every goddamn living creature for themselves or you're dead. And if you look good and you're pretty, we don't care. You're going down. You better cover yourself with spikes. And I just wonder if the people that have to endure that, what's so different between them and the cactus?
5:55🔗AdamNo, they don't have time. They don't have time for polka. They don't have steam baths and they don't get rubbed down. They don't have time for all the extras in life.
6:07🔗DrewWhat you're saying is your wife couldn't go there.
6:10🔗AdamShe would kill herself. It would be great. I'd collect the insurance. No, I'm just saying.
6:15🔗DrewBy the way, did you hear that kind of behavior? Did you hear Amber Fry today? The tapes with her voice on it?
6:21🔗AdamI heard it was squeaky and it made me think of you, Drew.
6:24🔗AdamOh, really? Drew, that usually means molestation on this show. But, all right, let's focus on Of Mudd. All right, so going on tour, been touring, Greek, and then you're actually going to Iraq to entertain the troops.
6:45🔗AdamNow, is Germany, Bosnia is a troop thing. Is Germany a troop thing, Drew?
6:49🔗Puddle Of MuddYeah, it's all troops. Rockin the troops tour.
6:54🔗AdamWe got a lot of troops in Germany and always seem to have. I know it's sort of a Soviet thing for a while.
7:01🔗DrewBut as you said, it takes a while to let go of what happened.
7:06🔗AdamYeah, listen, I think we ought to hit Germany one more time. That's my plan. My plan is a preemptive strike on Germany.
7:14🔗Puddle Of MuddThose are for all the troops coming back from Iraq.
7:18🔗AdamYeah, let them stop over there and just drop a few things.
7:22🔗I'll tell you what though, we got to Hamburg the first time we ever went to Europe. We left September 10th from Manhattan. We got to Hamburg September 11th. It all went down and we drove to Berlin that night. This concert was canceled. When we got there, the hotel was right next to the Army Embassy, the US Embassy. There's guys with machine guns. I've never seen an outpouring. They were walking to the embassy with American flags, airbrushed on their jeans and crying.
7:57🔗Puddle Of MuddThere's good people everywhere.
7:59🔗They love Americans, but they're bad people, too.
8:02🔗AdamGod bless them. All right. We're ready to go to the phones? Yes. Let's do it. Amy, you're 18. What's up?
8:12🔗CallerYes. I've been dating my fiance for three years now.
8:16🔗AdamLet me say this. Let me say this about 130-degree temperature. When you're a chick in Iraq, and you've got the full-blown black burka... By the way, don't they have white? Black's a pain in the sun, but you're covered head to toe. I mean, it's like you're in a mascot outfit. Could you do any worse than you looking through a slit just barely to peek through and say, at least you're not getting beaten by the sun. But I mean, it does seem like a, it may be cycling shorts and a tube top.
8:48🔗DrewYeah, of all the lands to take on that cultural garb.
8:52🔗AdamIt really is. To the ladies like here, bad news and worse news. Bad news, it's 128 degrees in the summer. Worse news, we're not gonna be able to see any skin.
9:05🔗AdamYeah, as a matter of fact, cover yourself in foil. Slather on some margarine, put some foil around you like a corn cop going on a barbecue. Then hang the two-stage drapery over you. Go ahead. And by the way, guys, don't worry. We'll grow beards like Santa. Yeah, that's great. That's a great strategy. It's 130 degrees. I got a beard like Dan Haggerty. Could you imagine? No. What are you doing? Do you hate your face? Like, you know, you get a little beard going and it gets hot, it gets sticky, you get stuff in it, it gets dusty. It's tan lines. Dust blowing around, you get a crazy tan line. And you got a crazy, those big cleric beards.
9:43🔗DrewThe beard is designed for Alaskan environments. Yes.
9:46🔗AdamNorth Pole. Keep your puss warm when you got arctic wind blowing over the tundra. It's free. It's burning over there. You got, you got really, you got a 70s NBA fro stuck to the bottom of your chin and neck. That's great.
10:05🔗AdamLet me get Dr. Jay's fro from 1974. I'm gonna cut a little mouth hole in it and I'm gonna stick it on the front of your face. That's great. What a way to beat the heat. Fantastic. You guys are geniuses. There's something, we call them shorts. You guys know? Nothing? No? Still with the hat? Okay. Yeah, Dr. Dre's fro is gonna be stuck on the front of your face. We're gonna need a beach towel. We're gonna wrap that up around your head. Okay. Then here's-
10:34🔗AdamYeah, it's a remanence here. We're gonna wrap these carpet remnants around your head. Feel any heat escaping anywhere through your ears? Let's fill those with spackle. And then put something black on. Put a whole bunch of black stuff on. And oh no, we don't have air conditioning. You're gonna lie down on the floor. Is this strategy? These beards? All right. It kind of makes you wonder if they're just kind of looking for-
11:01🔗AdamI'm not done. Hold on. Maybe the people, the same way, okay, you blow yourself up. You go up to, you go with the 72 Virgins. Maybe life's not supposed to be easy. Maybe you're supposed to flog yourself a little bit.
11:26🔗DrewIf he beat on you, you'll beat on yourself some way. You'll find some way to do that.
11:32🔗AdamAmy? Yes. Yeah, because if they like themselves a little more, they'd be wearing, they'd be wearing tank tops and tees, right? And like shorts and- Go ahead, Amy.
11:42🔗Okay. Well, I've been dating my fiance for three years now. We're getting married when I graduate high school. We just had a kid last year and I took his virginity when we first started dating.
12:01🔗AdamYou don't really take it. You get hit with it. I've had to duck to avoid some virginity. You get that like a camp? Pow! Virginity! Hit the deck! It's flying over your head, takes out a lighting picture. Yeah.
12:49🔗AdamAll right, you've got to study hard to stay, because right now you're only about a year in the brains department ahead of the kid. You see, you've got to keep studying so you keep staying that much ahead of the child.
13:00🔗DrewOh yeah, keep staying all the way through.
13:11🔗AdamShe must be glad I went on my long-winded diatribe about the Iraqis and the crazy beards with 130 degrees with the carpet on their head, but it is a little food for thought, right? I mean, you would just shave your head and your beard if you wanted to beat the heat, right?
13:26🔗DrewTake 96, he has an interesting question about, I'll propose to the guard.
13:31🔗DrewBut this may be a germane to that, line six.
13:33🔗AdamAll right, okay, here's the whole thing though. No more kids, number one. She theoretically can hear us on our radio. No more kids. Number two, having sex with him doesn't have a lot to do with his function.
13:47🔗DrewNothing. The fact that he can't respond again until the next morning, probably more to do with laziness than actuality. You know what I mean? Because a guy 18, unless he's 45 or something, but if he's 18 like she is, he should be good in about 30 minutes to go again.
14:03🔗AdamYeah, but now you're causing trouble, Drew, because she's going to go to him with this.
14:07🔗DrewYeah, but still. I'm just saying she ought to ask him to step up a little bit.
14:45🔗CallerI was reading in the newspaper, and I've heard your rants about hospital gowns. And something popped out. Hospital gowns fitted to suit Muslims.
14:59🔗AdamOh, all right. What Dan is talking about. Dan, are you a virgin, by the way?
15:18🔗AdamBecause this guy's 20 and he sounds like a virgin, and we talk to 13-year-old guys like, yeah, I'll tell you what I learned about the burka for my travel. No, guys, voice changes. He gets more confident.
15:36🔗AdamIt almost, by the way, it's the first thing that tips the chicks off not to get down with you. Yeah. Yeah.
15:43🔗DrewDance gotta be quiet. It's an interesting question. Is the maximum squirrely not eligible to lose his virginity? And that's why they sound so squirrely because that's why they didn't lose their virginity.
15:52🔗AdamYou mean what came first, the chicken or the egg?
15:56🔗AdamThe squirreliness, we all started squirrely.
16:00🔗DrewBut these guys are gonna be extra squirrely, which is why they-
16:02🔗AdamThey're extra squirrely so they're being punished by the female populace. It's true. Guys, we don't have this because if this guy was squirrely but looked good, we'd be it. The female version of him would get plenty of action. I don't care what you sound like or if you're low mileage, hey, all the better. Dan?
16:25🔗AdamHospital gowns, yes. I've complained that I don't like the hospital gowns where they take your underpants and make you tie it in the back and your ass and balls are hanging out everywhere. But go ahead, Dan.
16:35🔗DrewDid Adam entertain the hospital with ass and sack humor for a couple hours before his surgery?
16:41🔗CallerWell, it says, the state medical center plans to redesign poorly fitting hospital gowns after administrators learned that many Muslim women were skipping appointments because of them. The gowns.
16:53🔗AdamThe modesty. The Muslim women are modest and this gown doesn't protect them enough.
17:02🔗CallerThe gown now leaves patients fully covered. Last year, the hospital learned that three of every ten Muslim women were skipping appointments because of the gowns.
18:00🔗AdamAll right. I'll be the chick. Hey, Dan. What's going? Yeah. What are you? Are you in a bad mood? I just ruined my panties. That's great. Well, what can I do to break through? I mean, it really seems like you're in a bad way. Yeah. Why weren't you doing that all along, Dan? Chicks love that. Don't be talking about hospital gowns and stuff you read on the Internet. By the way, here's the other thing, too. Chicks hate information. You get punished. The more you know, the more they punish you. You start talking about, hey, this is what I read on the Internet. Just sit there like you know nothing, fold your arms and brood, and see if you can be kind of bummed out, except for you're not going to tell them why. You can't let them in. You're mysterious. Yeah, troubled and mysterious, the mysterious is the stranger. Blown through town. He's got troubles, boy, but he won't share them with you.
19:32🔗AdamThat's another one, too. Tell chicks you need time to think and then don't think, but tell them you need that time. I just need time to think right now. And it starts to just, here's what you, you wouldn't understand.
19:45🔗AdamThey're gone? Quiet. You wouldn't understand, I need time to think, and my old man was tough on me growing up. That's good, and then those are three things, and then you're fine, right?
20:09🔗AdamI know, he's standing up, he's lucid. Life On Display, name of the CD, and the first one we're gonna hear tonight is called Spin Your Ramp. Boy, man, I'll tell you, this show is better when we're off the air. Heated, everybody. Of Mudd here tonight. Get into that, well, all right. We gotta take some calls, Drew. We gotta take a break. We gotta take some calls. Oh, man, this game is sweeping, sweeping the nation. I mean, when you guys get to Germany, they'll probably.
24:58🔗AdamOh, they'll be talking about Germany or Florida, yeah. We'll explain the rules and all that. Wesleyan Douglas here tonight from Of Mudd. Life on display. Name of the CD. We'll be right back after this.
25:26🔗AdamHey, everybody, Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Wesleyan Douglas, are here tonight. Puddle of Mudd, name of the band, life on display, name of the CD. And we'll hear something else off of that in the 11 o'clock hour. All right, now, it's time to play the game that is sweeping the nation, although we have to explain it to every kind of guest. It's swept the nation, but we'll explain it anyway.
25:54🔗DrewThese guys have been on tour, they've been away about the country.
25:55🔗AdamThey've been away, they've been away. Germany or Florida, here's how the game goes. All bizarre stories. And I learned this sitting at the Jimmy Kimmel writers' table for about a year, that every bizarre story that ever comes down the pike comes out either Germany or Florida. And now these aren't the, I'm not talking about the chick with 50 cats, I'm talking about the guy who cut off his own toes, fried it up and ate it.
26:21🔗DrewThat's exactly the story I was thinking.
26:23🔗AdamReally? Well, more recent, more recent. That's one of the more recent ones we have.
26:30🔗AdamAll right, it's freaky. Now, that comes from either Germany or Florida. So, they ask the question, they give us the call, and they tell us the story, and then we decide, is it Germany or Florida? Joshua?
26:47🔗Last year, police were summoned to a fight between a man and a familiar prostitute. Apparently, the man was being attacked by the hooker when, in his search for a good time, he was recognized by his wife, who, unbeknownst to him, was working secretly as a prostitute. Germany or Florida?
27:49🔗AdamI'm going Florida. But you're right, the wife would have started cracking him. I'm going Florida just to mix it up. Joshua? All right, thank you.
28:15🔗AdamAnd listen, it could have been Florida, but for some reason it smelled like Germany. I don't know how that works. We're about 90% on this thing, maybe a little bit higher, maybe 93%. Why is that? Why did that smell like Germany to everybody? Is it the first one that somebody yells at?
29:01🔗CallerOkay, you guys are gonna think this is really strange, but for like the past 12 years, I've had this like weird habit where when I get stressed out and stuff, I pull my hair out.
29:11🔗DrewWhy would we think that's strange? Because it's.
29:25🔗AdamYou gotta rhyme with something with trichotillomania.
29:28🔗DrewHelp quite a bit with this. So you ought to, of course, one of the things you do is reduce stress in your life, find other ways to manage stress, but if this is a compulsion that you cannot stop, you start having bald spots or pulling your eyelashes out, that kind of thing, you need a medication.
29:40🔗AdamI got the answer. You do one of those sort of cheap rhymes, but it still works. You go that trichotillomania, driving me insane-ia. You know what I'm saying? You're tweaking a little bit. You can tweak insane-ia. People would know. Insane-ia.
30:03🔗AdamAll right, so you're talking at the hair.
30:06🔗DrewGet it checked out, okay? Yeah, okay. People go to quite great lengths with this one, pull their eyebrows out, their eyelashes, create bald spots in their head.
30:50🔗CallerI've been hearing that they are going over to Iraq and just wanted to know if that was confirmed and how each of them feel about going over there.
30:57🔗Puddle Of MuddYes, I think it is confirmed. And at first, I thought it was a little spooky. And this is Wes. And now I'm a little bit more comfortable with it. And just to, I feel good going over there and rocking for the people that have been in there 130 degrees sun, so.
31:18🔗AdamAnd I'm sure, you know, the Army, first off, it would be, it's horrible publicity if some celebrity goes over there and doesn't make it back. And you never hear about it happening. I'm not jinxing you guys. But here's what I'm saying.
31:33🔗AdamWhat I'm saying is, is they have experience. This is one thing the Army doesn't screw up. It seems to me, since Bob Hope was heading over there.
31:41🔗DrewExcept when they had a transport plane in Bosnia and the secretary, what was Brown, the secretary of the Interior went down. Except for that.
32:53🔗AdamWhy would you do that to yourself? Why would you move there? I mean, look, Minnesota, that's its own Arctic extreme, but why then go to Arizona and.
33:03🔗CallerYou don't have the humidity. It's just dry heat.
33:09🔗DrewShelly, I was in Phoenix two weeks ago. Dry or wet, brutal. Didn't matter.
33:13🔗AdamI can get my oven is dry heat. Still good enough to cook a meatloaf. Still cook ya. We don't cook ya with moist heat, you know. We cook ya. Jet engine, that ain't dry. That's not wet heat. That's just dry heat. You know, flamethrowers, Bunsen burners, dry heat. Sterno cans.
34:07🔗AdamI also, I'm also going back to my sort of religious retardism thing with the Iraqis over there. Iraqis, you know what I'm saying? I think they like to flog themselves a little. A lot of these people were religious pioneers.
34:22🔗DrewCivilization started in that part of the world. That's where we got started.
34:38🔗AdamWell, that's my understanding. I barely got through North Hollywood High, but that's the way I understand it. Steven? You're 20? Hey. What's up? Doing good. What's going on?
34:53🔗CallerDrew, well, first I want to say thanks for, I've been listening to you guys for a while now, and Drew, you've gave me so much advice, and I just want to thank you for that, off the bat.
35:03🔗DrewOh, my pleasure. What's happening now, Steven?
35:06🔗CallerWell, my father is addicted to some prescription medicine. He's got a problem with Zomaz and Vicodin, and just today we actually found out that he's trying something else.
35:24🔗DrewWell, Soma is really a tough drug to get off. People don't make much of that.
35:40🔗DrewYeah, your liver converts it right into Miltounce, and it is a very difficult drug to detox from. It takes about two weeks, and people get what's called akathisia. They're moving, like their body can't, like their engine's going, and they want to punch things. It's like you all the time, Adam, really. Except your engine's not going. If they actually turned your engine on and you wanted to punch things, that's what it would be like.
35:56🔗AdamWell, you know who we get punched first?
35:58🔗DrewI know, of course I know, yes. The nearest seat, I'll be sitting over there.
36:33🔗AdamWell, look, why don't you hook up with your mom?
36:37🔗DrewThere's Delamo Treatment Center out there in Redondo by you guys. Give them a call. Delamo Treatment Center in Torrance, okay? They're very, very good.
36:44🔗AdamTell them Dr. Drew sent you and get 20% off your first night's stay. Is that true, Drew? And you get the tote, you get the tote bag.
36:55🔗AdamFanny pack, that's $29 value. It's yours free for just coming in and checking out the Delamo Treatment Center. If you say, Dr. Drew, if you say he sent you and you heard it on this show, yes?
37:08🔗DrewYou know, I once was retarded enough to bring a 7-Up can to Six Flags because they said they'd give you like $10, $4 off or something.
37:15🔗AdamI remember, I do remember that campaign. Six Flags, Magic Mountain out here. Back before it was Six Flags or anything, it was just Magic Mountain. It was, bring it, bring it, empty.
37:28🔗AdamNo, it's just a 7-Up. They probably said 7-Up or Diet 7-Up can and you get like $4 off the price of admission, which was probably $12 or $16.
37:37🔗DrewSo I plopped the can down and the guy says, what's this? Really, he was like, what are you doing? It's $4 off, so.
37:47🔗DrewThat was the price of admission was $4 off. Yeah, yeah. But he was angry that I put a can down in the little windows. Like, what are you doing?
37:53🔗AdamI like when they make it humiliating, like give the Tom Turkey gobble and it's like, gobble gobble, I didn't hear you. Gobble gobble gobble, my hearing's not so good. Could you bring it up a little? Yeah, like sometimes where you actually have to say the person's name, the DJ's name, but Drew, at least you got out to Magic Mountain there, buddy. They didn't have anything back then, though, did they?
38:17🔗AdamIt was before they had any of the Batman rides or anything. Drew would pull in and five guys would come out and shake the car and then he'd pay him $12 and go home. Is that how it worked?
38:28🔗DrewYeah, that was pretty rough riding that day.
38:30🔗AdamIt'd just jump up and down on the bumper. And that was exciting, that's all we had. Yeah, and eventually they worked a log flume into it where the guy would spray the windshield with a hose, while the same guys jumped up and down on the bumper of the car. And then you drove home. And I think they'd give you a snow cone or something.
38:46🔗AdamYeah. All right everyone, Of Mudd in the studio tonight. Douglas and Wes here from the band. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, Drew.
39:00🔗AdamJoseph from my hometown in North Hollywood likes girls to abuse him. I'll tell you, you like abuse. North Hollywood's your place. Lots of mean people waiting to die or perhaps abuse you before they go on the ground. That's fantastic. You go to North Hollywood. Hey, I hook them up to my family.
39:18🔗DrewBut this is more evidence of how people reenact trauma. You grow up around trauma, you reenact it.
39:23🔗AdamYou go to high school, you get a little abuse. You go home, you get a little abuse. I'm gonna get some abuse. Go down, head down toward like Roscoe and Sherman Way. That's where they're really dealing out some of the abuse out there. Yeah. All right, I'll give them all the abuse hotspots in North Hollywood. Take a quick break. We'll be right back.
40:28🔗AdamIt could be leftover? From like six o'clock tonight? All right, I just heard.
40:33🔗Puddle Of MuddWe'll watch ourselves even now.
40:34🔗AdamI heard the pot laugh, that's all I'm saying. All right, listen, doesn't mean they can't rock. Yeah. And in I rock, yes, Drew? E rock. I mean, E rock. E rock. E rock. All right, so we're moving forward with the show. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Here's a little dilemma we have. Drew and I both got a couple bottles of wine, actually one bottle of wine from the folks at Westwood One for doing a little work for him. I took them both. I decided they were both mine because I do all the work when it comes to anything.
41:08🔗AdamAnd I do all the boozing, so I figured I'd take them both. Drew decided he liked one a little better than the other. Drew, who speaks French fluently, is a well-seasoned traveler, and a bit of a connoisseur as well as a part-time opera singer, said-
41:34🔗AdamAnd then I'll just take the more expensive one. Okay. All right, that seems fair. That's fair. Unless you want the other one more, in which case I'll take the cheaper one, just because you want it more. But only if it's a few dollars. Well, Chris could look it up.
41:50🔗AdamYeah, I'm handing the bottle. Now, this is a month's work for you, do you understand? So if you drop it, you're pro bono for the next month, do you understand? You can trust me. All right, all right, you got it? All right, look that up. There's something going on in the back there. It's just where they got the wine and stuff. I wanna find out how much. See what they think of us, by the way. Westwood One, guys, better hope it ain't $9.95. And I'll just take the more expensive one, even if I don't like it. Joseph? Yeah. You're 16? Yeah. Oh yeah, you're from North Hollywood. Oh yeah. Yeah, speak up a little, please. Get into that phone. Where do you live? Where do you live in North Hollywood?
42:29🔗CallerI live right in the border of Sun Valley and North Hollywood.
42:33🔗AdamThat's the only people, the only people on the planet that wish they lived in North Hollywood are the people in Sun Valley.
42:42🔗CallerWell, it's not that bad over here. It's pretty great.
43:18🔗CallerI played for two years Trojans, and then I went to the Falcons.
43:21🔗AdamWow, it's a shame we're never gonna talk again. We could talk about this, but that's not gonna happen. But wow, here's a guy who played Pop Warner Football for the East Valley Trojans and the Sun Valley Falcons. Nobody moves around.
43:35🔗DrewDid anybody, Joseph, talk to you about taking a knee or not using your helmet as a chair?
43:58🔗AdamYeah, producer Lawrence said she already looked it up. You were saying when it went incredible vintage. All right, so listen, Joseph. What happened to Joseph? Yeah, what's your question?
44:11🔗CallerWell, I like being in abusive relationships. I like when girls will lead me on and shut me down. It's weird, it's weird, because I'm attracted to that. And if we're on and off, I'll go through that, and then when I go with the next person, I'll shut them down, and it's a pattern. And I want it to be like.
44:30🔗DrewAnd then you don't like the consummate. You don't like to have the relationship. You like to just end it before it starts.
44:36🔗CallerAnd I want to know why I was like that.
44:38🔗DrewWell, it may be nothing. It may be just some weird adolescent behavior you're getting into, just you don't want to be in a relationship, you're afraid to be in a relationship, or you've had some major losses growing up, and so the prospect of intimacy is really too dangerous.
44:50🔗CallerMy dad, I never really knew my dad. You think that might be it?
44:54🔗AdamYeah, well we know that. They don't let you into some val, you can't get into poly if you know your dad. Yeah, that's how they do a quick quiz. That's part of their story. Do you know your dad?
45:05🔗DrewNo, they try to trick you. I understand they ask, what's your dad's hair color?
45:10🔗AdamYou're in, you're in. Who raised you, your mom or your aunt? My aunt. You're in with honor, scholarship, free ride. This kid's getting a free ride.
45:19🔗Puddle Of MuddHow many relationships have you been in?
45:33🔗DrewFirst of all, you're never gonna have sex behaving like this. You're also never gonna have a real relationship. Get through it, realize that this is not the way people wanna be treated.
45:42🔗CallerI had another question too, like the person, the first person that ever done this to me, she's grown up pretty badly, like her dad was alcoholic and she hung out.
45:49🔗DrewWell, of course, people are only gonna be attracted to you who want abuse.
45:53🔗AdamThat's on the test too, like, do you know your dad? Yes, I do, I'm sorry, yeah, I know him well because he drank and beat the crap out. Oh, oh, okay, back, sorry, I'm sorry. It was a little mix up, I'm sorry, sir. You're back in. Go get your letterman jacket, there you go. As long as he hung out and he was loaded and smacked, you know, beat on you.
46:11🔗DrewSo the fact that abuse victims are attracted to you is really concerning, Joseph, because that means that's the kind of partner you are in a relationship, that's the kind of person you are attracted to and who you're going to attract. It means a lifetime of chaos in your relationships and drama, it's not a good way to have it.
46:25🔗Puddle Of MuddYeah, I agree, I'd say don't do that.
46:27🔗AdamDon't get anyone pregnant in the meantime.
46:51🔗CallerAnd for a little while in the beginning, I was able to have intercourse with him. I don't know, is it considered intercourse with two guys?
47:03🔗DrewI don't know, what would a gay couple call it?
47:05🔗AdamI don't know, yeah, why are you asking us? You're the gay one. All right, hold on a second. Hold on, Ryan, hold on. We're just giving them crap because-
48:07🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Wes and Doug here tonight. Of Mudd. Yo. Oh, yeah. Life On Display, name of the CD. We're gonna hear something else off that, and a couple of few. Drew's on the internet trying to figure out how much these bottles of wine cost that Westwood One gave us. I'm gonna take the more expensive one. So far, the one Drew gave me is, well, he found 38 on the one that Drew gave me. And now he's trying to find his bottle. Now, don't let him lie, Chris, because they'll say it's less so he can keep it. But as we know, the rules of the games, I get the one that's more expensive.
48:46🔗AdamEven if I'm allergic to it. Even if it's called the Cigale Crap, that's gonna be the French name of it, I still have to, and it's white with a black speckles in it and it's part of like a hermit crab. I still have to get that one, you understand? I love it. Well, Drew, you better find it, buddy. All right, let's get back to Ryan. Ryan is a 17, maybe, calling from Missouri, probably, says he's gay, maybe, and says he's too big for his boyfriend. And I'm gonna go with a big negative on that one, but go ahead there, Ryan.
49:21🔗CallerWell, it's not necessarily me being too big or I think he just has trouble handling the pain. My question is, I'm sure you've probably got this a hundred times, but what can I do to make it easier? I mean, more lube, give me some suggestions here.
49:39🔗AdamWell, what do you think we're gonna say? Yoke him out with a curling iron? More lube, yeah. Yeah.
50:12🔗DrewThey have oral sex or one is the receptive and one is the dominant, and that's it. They don't switch around. And they rarely get into anal sex. That's sort of an unusual behavior.
50:21🔗AdamI know. It was disappointing when I found that out. Because it seemed so much more entertaining when they were doing it.
50:31🔗Puddle Of MuddGo to the surgeon and get your thing shortened or something.
50:36🔗DrewThere's obviously many different things you could be doing besides that, obviously. If it hurts somebody, of course you do something else.
50:42🔗AdamAll right, Ryan, nice try. All right, see you. I like it when they give up. By the way, look, I'm not telling you you should sound like a caricature. You don't have to call and sound like Richard Simmons. But if you're saying you're gay, gay it up just a little bit. You know, even if you're gonna be butch sounding like Ryan from Missouri, at least drop in like, yeah, I was taking a me day the other day and it was cornhole. You know, I mean, you sound like a trucker, for Christ's sake. At least work in some gay, work in something, some diet soda, some Yoplait, we figured out what? The squeegee and the lucite shower door.
51:25🔗DrewYeah, that was a very, I bought two homes or condos from gay couples and both time they left behind a squeegee inside the shower, which they'd squeegee off the lucite shower door every time.
51:39🔗DrewThat's something I've never done. It's a pattern.
51:41🔗AdamIt's a gay thing. Straight guys don't think to put a squeegee.
51:45🔗DrewEven when the squeegee was there, I left it there and thought maybe I'd do it.
51:48🔗AdamNever did it. Well, yeah, but they weren't taking water off that door. That was stool and semen. You understand? When you're gay and you got a shower and a lucite door, God knows what's hitting that thing. You know what I'm saying? It's not just tap water hitting that thing. I mean, you need a pressure washer and a car buffer. You're going at that thing. There's stuff flying at that thing all the time. Looks like spin art when you're on the other side of it. Just crazy stuff.
52:42🔗Puddle Of MuddIt must be really expensive, you can't find it.
52:47🔗AdamAlright, let's keep a rocking. We do want to hear another Of Mudd song, too. Virgin has a problem turning off, wait, Virgin has a problem turning boyfriend on. Help, please. She's a virgin? Leah?
54:27🔗AdamHold on. But what do you mean you don't know what to do with it?
54:30🔗CallerWell, a friend of mine had told me that because the boy, the guy, is more experienced than I am that the chances are that the things that turn him on are going to be totally different than the things that turn me on because I'm not experienced.
54:45🔗AdamListen, your friend's retarded, number one. Number two, what turns him on is anything he can get.
54:50🔗AdamAnd all the above. If you whip it with a dish towel, he'd be into it. He's like a BJ Moore, but he'll settle for the rat's tail with the dish towel. I mean, guys just take whatever. You just say, look, I'm going to rub up against it with the bony part of my elbow for two minutes. Okay, we'll take it, we'll take it.
55:10🔗Puddle Of MuddWhatever you think you should do, that's what you should do.
55:16🔗DrewJust anything. The guy will be beside himself.
55:18🔗AdamYeah. So if that doesn't work, is it wrong? What happened in the past? And by the way, I know you're 25 and you're a virgin, but were you transported from a different time? Like, you know, I'm picturing you like being in like a Salem in the 1700s or something. Yeah. Were you an early settler? Like, what's going on?
55:44🔗CallerNo, no. I decided around the age of 20 that I was gonna wait until I was married to have sex. And once I made that decision, I ended up not, well, I decided not to do anything that would...
57:06🔗AdamOkay. Here's what you do. Just take it slow. Keep seeing him. See what happens. And don't put so much pressure on him. When it starts getting pressured, it gets weird. I mean, here's the thing about sex. Drew found something?
57:20🔗AdamLet me just say. Let me say something about sex. Sex is like, I don't know why you get punished whenever something gets difficult or sticky, but if you're nervous and you gotta deliver a speech, you'll eff the speech up. If you're nervous and you have to do some sort of guitar recital or something, you'll eff it up. The more tense you are, the higher the percentage chances are you're gonna eff it up. And it's the same with sex. I mean, if you're nervous and you're a little skittish and you're not very confident and you're always worried about clanking teeth when you're making out, you're gonna clank teeth. I don't know why that is. I don't know why we perform so poorly under these circumstances, but we do. And then we get going down into this negative spiral. She needs to take a little pressure off herself. She's fine. She's into him. He's into her. Just keep seeing each other and just let it go. Don't turn it into such a problem.
58:14🔗DrewTo me, it reminds me of how confused and screwed up women are about men and their sexuality. Shall I read more Cosmo? Should I read more of this? No. Just be there. Be enthusiastic. And anything you do, he'll be beside himself.
58:26🔗AdamAbsolutely. He'd actually like it if you passed out.
59:57🔗AdamDrew, you can come back over here now. You're done. You're done, buddy. Stop looking at all the French words. I know you're excited. All right. Of Mudd in tonight. We're going to hear a song off the newest CD, Life On Display. And this one is called Freak Of The World. Freak World. Hey, everybody. It's Loveline, Of Mudd in Student Night.
1:03:44🔗DrewI love the discussion amongst heterosexual men when you start talking about gay males, and inevitably every male goes, well, I wouldn't know. I mean, I think this is what they do. Don't count on me to know.
1:03:54🔗AdamWesley, we're having a pretty heady conversation about who would be a top and who would be a bottom, how AIDS got going and oral sex versus anal sex. So do we all agree we'd be tops or, right?
1:04:25🔗AdamI'm pretty lazy, yeah. I don't like moving that much. I could see myself that just shoot my ass up. You're the bottom. Shoot me up the little Nova cane and go at it. Please, if you see any blood, please promise me you'll stop and just have at it. And watch the Comforter for the love of Christ. You know what I'm saying? Get the squeegee out, use it on my back. I could go. Which one, by the way, does one make you gayer than the other?
1:05:40🔗CallerI got a question for Doug and Wes, but before I get into that, I just want to say that you guys rock. I'm Wes, you're my idol, man. You guys just rock. I mean, I love your music.
1:06:14🔗Puddle Of MuddHell yeah, you guys just rock. Just check puddleofmudd.com, and you're totally cool with all the dates that we're gonna be playing.
1:06:54🔗Puddle Of MuddThe Gorge is amazing. It's the most amazing place to put a place, to put an amphitheater at in the world. Behind the stage is just this amazing, you know, Gorge.
1:07:06🔗Puddle Of MuddLooks like the Grand Canyon. Yeah, there's a river going down. You can go down there and get jet skis and it's crazy. So Red Rocks is good, too, but I don't know, man.
1:07:14🔗CallerAnd Red Rocks, the Beatles played and Jimmy Hendrix played. Oh really? It's been there that long?
1:09:08🔗CallerWell, it's a liquid. Okay, and I was just wondering, you know, how, like, cause obviously I'm gonna have this for the rest of my life. And I was wondering how this medicine is gonna affect me in the long term.
1:09:20🔗DrewDo you have a family history of alcoholism?
1:09:59🔗DrewExactly, that's what shaped the red cells, which are normally these sort of biconcave discs. They become sickles and they clog the arteries.
1:10:10🔗DrewHypoxia, it's like blood supplies cut off to regions of the cell, the tissue starts dying. It's very, very painful.
1:10:15🔗CallerWow, I think you should take the medicine. That's what it's made for.
1:10:18🔗DrewWell, of course, of course you take the medicine. And indeed, sickle patients do sometimes become addicted. But Dominique, you don't sound like one of those people. You've probably been taking these things since you were a teenager.
1:10:26🔗CallerYeah, I've been taking them since I was about 14.
1:10:29🔗DrewAbsolutely, and you're tolerating a fine. They're not escalating. You're fine, you're gonna be okay. Well, of course, but tolerance increasing is different than a preoccupation and a pursuit of the opiates. You don't strike, you know how I kind of, I can smell addiction on people, I don't smell it on you.
1:10:45🔗Puddle Of MuddNow, if that somehow is just a natural thing and you go to the doctor, is that somehow, do you have to pay for that your whole life, or do you, does the government pay for it?
1:10:54🔗CallerWell, luckily I have really good insurance.
1:10:57🔗CallerI have awesome insurance, because my mom used to work for LA County and she got hurt and so now they have to pay her insurance for the rest of her life.
1:11:03🔗AdamPerfect, that's why I pay so much in taxes. All right, is she, what do you mean? What is she doing? Is she okay?
1:11:11🔗CallerWell, yeah, she's okay, but she used to work for the sheriff's department and she hurt her knee.
1:11:16🔗AdamDoing what, though? I mean, look, if she jumped off a two-story building like TJ Hooker onto a perp's car hood and got rolled into some trash cans, I'm fine. But if she tripped on a power cord in the office, pushing some paper.
1:11:29🔗CallerIt was during duty. It wasn't making the shift.
1:11:39🔗AdamSometimes you push hard, you can blow a knee off. My dad tore an ACL after eating some brisket. Did you know that, Drew? That's what sidelined him.
1:13:08🔗AdamOh. This is bad, yeah. One minute she's sliding on some fecal matter, the next minute she's showing people how to pull up pornography on a computer. I don't know if I like this one.
1:13:48🔗AdamLife on display, name of the CD. You go www.puddleofmudd.com. You find out all the information about where they're gonna be. All right, and here's the thing. You wanna see them for free, you enlist right now. Because they're gonna be in Iraq.
1:14:02🔗Puddle Of MuddWe're going on the troop camp tour.
1:14:04🔗AdamThat's right. You get, you enlist right now. You get through basic real quick. You tell them you wanna be Marine, you wanna be on the front lines. You go over there, you catch Of Mudd for free, then you fake an injury and you come back stateside. That's what I'm gonna do, Drew. Are you in?
1:14:21🔗Puddle Of MuddSome of the callers that call in here might actually try to pull that off, man.
1:14:25🔗AdamIt wouldn't be bad. And it's probably, it's Of Mudd this week and then Drew Carey's rolling through the next week. You got comedians, maybe Lola Filana or I don't know.
1:14:37🔗AdamNon-stop laughs. Bob Hope. Bob Hope comes on out. I mean, yeah. They did ask me, actually. Somebody asked me if I wanted to do a comedy tour there. Did I say that? No. Yeah, you know Jeff Ross, the comedian? Yeah. Does all the roasts and stuff? Yeah. And Drew Carey and I don't know, like another guy called me said we're leaving in like two weeks. Wow. I said, my wife better let me go in the mailbox. She'd be PO'd. Yeah. Besides, I'm chicken. Not man enough. Yeah. Jessica?
1:18:38🔗DrewWell, okay, I just, I don't see, I don't see.
1:18:42🔗CallerHe's not like relationship or anything, and there's his friend that I'm kind of also having sex with, and, but they're friends, and his dick is like.
1:18:52🔗DrewHang on a second, I'm looking at my crystal ball, yes, yes. I'm seeing Jessica's future, oh, no, oh, Jessica.
1:19:48🔗AdamYou're getting out of control. You're gonna get pregnant, you're gonna get a venereal disease.
1:19:52🔗Drew16 and hanging out with guys that are idiots.
1:19:54🔗AdamYou're 16 years old, come on. Just reel it in just a little bit. It's not all about your sexuality. All right. Can you do something, can you just, come on, go to school, crack a book, get on the volleyball team, or go to college somewhere where it's not all about how much guys wanna eff you.
1:20:08🔗DrewRight, create something worthwhile. That's not a message we give out clearly enough, I don't think.
1:20:14🔗AdamWell, look, I'm against women empowering themselves, sure, just like the next guy.
1:20:20🔗AdamI think there's plenty of 15 and 16 year olds who call this show, whatever they're worth to another guy sexually or the populace of men in their neighborhood is all they're worth. And they spend their whole lives putting makeup on, vomiting to lose weight, reading magazines to try to get tips on it. And meanwhile, their brain is just in a piece of Tupperware in a freezer. It doesn't get any, it's all about their sexuality. How desirable can I be to this guy? And I'm having sex with this one guy, but his friend wants to have sex with me too, so I'll have sex with him because it makes me feel good when more people want to have sex with me, but I'll vomit so my ass doesn't get too big, so a third guy will want to have sex with me. What happens when you're 26? It's really, it's like someone just took your brain out and confiscated it. You know what it's like? It's like that scene from 48 Hours where Eddie Murphy goes to get his car back after 10 years. Like they just blow the dust off it and see if it starts. It's just been sitting in a garage.
1:21:21🔗DrewYeah, also the satisfaction from that kind of interaction with people is bottomless. It's never enough.
1:21:29🔗AdamYeah, yeah, you just have a string of crappy relationships, guys end up using you. Meanwhile, then you come on this show and you don't know any of the participants in World War II. That's you. Yeah, we could have asked her.
1:25:29🔗AdamI get jealous. There's a guy I work with who's seen Fish 75 times, and he's a kid. He's a nice guy, but he's like, I don't know, he's 24, 26 or something. And he's like, yeah, they're gonna Fish play in their last concert in Maine, I think, or maybe, I mean, it's way out there. Yeah, I'm flying. I'm going out Friday. I'm gonna catch him. I'm gonna think to myself, what do you get the money to do this? I know now you have a job. When you were in high school or college or something, like the idea, like you being in high school, yeah, I'm gonna get on the plane. I'm gonna see Jethro Tull. He's playing, he's in Montreal. I'm gonna, she's like, are you kidding? Like, how do you do this? Do your parents give him the money?
1:27:17🔗AdamHey everybody. It's Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Wesley and Douglas here tonight from Of Mudd. Hey. Yeah. Everybody, life on display, name of the CD. You like good music? You get that CD. You go to www.puddleofmudd.com. You find out all the information, all the door dates. And vote.
1:27:37🔗Puddle Of MuddAnd you get a vote from our website.
1:28:09🔗CallerI just, we've done a little bit of research on it, but I'm not really totally sure about the risks involved.
1:28:17🔗AdamWell, first off, Drew, she's three weeks pregnant.
1:28:20🔗DrewThey might well do one of the chemical abortions.
1:28:23🔗AdamAnd how much, I mean, I'm guessing the risk goes up as the term goes up?
1:28:28🔗DrewThere really are not significant medical risks for abortion in the legal window that's available. It's very rare that somebody would have serious consequences.
1:28:50🔗DrewStraight three months. There's, most of the, you know, they can have chemical now with RU-46. They're gonna take medication to cause the abortion. There are gonna be infections and prolonged bleeding and prolonged bleeding from the pills. But the most significant thing that I constantly encounter, even though there's controversy about this, is depressions and remorse. The women have a very, very strong emotional reaction. There's a book out there called Maternal Desire by a woman named Demar Neif. And she goes into great length discussing sort of the ins and outs of all of this. You might want to read that book and consider things very carefully. It's a very well thought out, almost philosophical and psychological treatment of all of this.
1:29:28🔗AdamWell, what? You gonna talk her out of it?
1:29:31🔗DrewNo, it's up to her. I think she seems like she's a very thoughtful person and wants to kind of think it all through. And she's got a week or so to do it.
1:29:37🔗AdamWell, here's the thing, too. Your body goes into gear and all of a sudden the man pops it out of gear. It's gonna cause some residual effects.
1:29:52🔗DrewBut in terms of significant effects to your fertility and that sort of thing, no.
1:29:56🔗AdamAll right. And also, if it's something you're gonna do, definitely want to do it sooner than later. Sooner than later. All right, Karen.
1:30:04🔗CallerIs the surgical procedure more, is it more difficult later on to have children?
1:30:11🔗AdamNo. Listen to Drew, would you? No. It's all right. All right. It's really, what Drew was saying is there's not, there's not a physical problem for the most part.
1:30:25🔗DrewIt really is not. I mean, there's some evidence with each subsequent abortion, of course you increase the risk of getting into problems.
1:30:42🔗AdamWhat's happening? You've been having sex with a condom and it hurts?
1:30:48🔗No, no, no. Okay, well it hurts with the condom, but I, like in the beginning, I stopped using the condom and it made it a lot like less painful. So now it hurts without the condom.
1:32:02🔗AdamYeah, Salisbury Steak takes an extra 26 seconds, unless you want to go for the turkey. But I do that around the holidays. Hello? Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes the peach cobbler, some of the peas will get mixed in with that. The point is...
1:33:06🔗DrewThis could still be vaginismus. It could still be a pelvic floor muscular spasm. True. I would keep going back to the doctor and having this investigated further because you should be able to overcome. This is not normal.
1:33:16🔗AdamWhenever you say do you lubricate, there was a, we tried to lubricate and people don't think of self-lubricating. All right, we'll take a quick break. Be right back.
1:34:21🔗CallerThank you. Wesley Doug, always a delight.
1:34:21🔗AdamWoo! All right, I want to thank phone screener Brian for doing a great job, and wish him a speedy recovery. Gallbladder remover. Yeah. Drew removed it during the break. During the break, yeah. Who's phone screened at night then?
1:34:31🔗AdamGood job, Adam. Chris, remember I said never not talk? He said never talk, never talk. Okay, all right. Now even if you get a motorcycle accident and paramedics, like what's your blood type?
1:34:43🔗AdamAdam, and you hand him a note. Adam said, and then, oh, oh, positive. All right, I want to thank junior, junior producer, Lauren, for doing a great job. To find out how much these bottles of wine cost, I want to thank engineer Anderson. And who's filming for Anderson tonight, then?
1:35:02🔗AdamDave. Engineer Dave for doing a stellar job tonight. And until next time, oh, producer Ann for doing a, out of sight, I don't mind. Doing a great job all week. So until next time, it's Adam Crowell for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.
1:35:21🔗CallerThe opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.