1:19🔗AdamOh, okay, so it'll be a few more minutes.
1:20🔗DrewYeah, yeah, Kimmel, I believe, tapes at like 8 o'clock now. Ends at 9. He could get here, but, you know, when you do Kimmel, let me tell you something about Kimmel. That's a party going on over there.
1:49🔗DrewYou know what I'm saying. It sucks. Now, it is a party going on over there.
1:56🔗AdamIt takes a while to get out and extract yourself.
1:58🔗DrewWhen you're done, you got to have a couple of boozies and you got to kiss the ring. You know what I'm saying? Let me tell you something about Jimmy. Anybody who goes to the show who-
2:15🔗DrewWhat Drew just did there. First, Drew, what Drew does with the microphone, Drew actually hurt himself with the microphone at that. Drew, first, like a good Mexican fighter, he softens up the body. He goes down low. He works the liver, he works the kidney. Then once the body's been softened and the hands start sliding down and the elbows start going low to protect the midsection, pow! He turns the uppercut and it's devastating. That time he jammed the mic right into his face with an uppercut. I've seen Drew hit the mic with his glasses. I've seen him hit the, actually, I would say bump or make contact with a mug. It's not the right word. I've seen him attack it with a mug.
2:57🔗AdamYeah, it's this one. Now, of course, when I try to do it, I can't quite do it.
3:02🔗DrewI've seen him use the mug against the mic the way a black mother uses a slipper against the cops when they're arresting her baby. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I've seen him go at the mic. Yes, but this, I've never seen an uppercut, Drew. You've really-
3:20🔗DrewAnd here's the thing about Drew. Just when you think there's not another way for him to make contact with the microphone, he turns around and surprises you. It's like a great relationship. You know what I mean?
3:31🔗AdamSpeaking of making contact, I was taking my son to a tutoring session today.
3:36🔗AdamBut listen, you can get back. You'll like this, too. And I'm at a Starbucks in the San Marino area, and I walk in, and just waiting for my son to finish his tutoring thing.
3:45🔗DrewYou're waiting to get a freebie coffee from engineer Chris' brother?
3:48🔗AdamNo, this wasn't his place. This is somewhere way miles away from there. But there's Chris sitting there.
4:40🔗DrewYeah. I just want to let you know that I got a buddy who's working at my house. He's going to be there tomorrow morning. That's going on 22 years of junior college.
4:51🔗AdamHow did I know that was course selection? I must have seen you for four seconds. I knew he was giving you career advice.
4:59🔗AdamWhy did you come to us for career advice? No, we're... All right.
5:04🔗DrewClose your mic. That's my career advice. Shut your mic off. Junior college is to young students what quicksand is to natives chasing Tarzan. They just hit it and that's it. And the more they struggle, the deeper they get.
5:42🔗DrewWhen I'm in charge, I go through junior college every seven and a half years in clean house. Which is, I just start walking around. No, I don't know people's names. Hey, hey, Nike shirt, yeah, porkchop sideburns. Come here. I've seen you here. I've seen you here since like 89. Have I not? Yeah. You're out. Get out.
6:04🔗DrewGet out of here. I'm faculty. I don't care. You're gone. Gone. You pack up your sport coat with the patches on the sleeves, throw it in the Nova, your folks cosigned for, and get the F out. Everybody, any student I'd seen wandering around, I would have kicked my mom out 30 years ago. My mom's still wandering the halls of, my mom's ghost will haunt the halls of LA Valley College.
6:56🔗DrewWhat am I doing? Fight to keep it. How old? You're 27. See, here's the whole thing. Look at it.
7:04🔗AdamI would give you totally different advice, by the way. Go ahead.
7:06🔗DrewOkay, but here's what I'm saying. Why don't we start talking about the NBA or the NHL? Why don't we talk about playing arena football? Something realistic. I'm saying, you're 27, it would have happened. You're on the cusp. Okay, here's what I'm gonna say about you, Chris. You're on the cusp. You can look that word up later. If you. Know what that means. They have that place where they keep the books. I'm on the verge. It's on the verge.
7:30🔗DrewOkay, here's what I'm saying. Here's what I'm saying. You're 27. By the time you're 28 and a half to 29, the window is painted and nailed shut. You can no longer get out of junior college. You can't get out of junior college. You can't get out. And when you hit your 30s, that's it.
7:48🔗AdamSo he's gonna get out by 30. No, no, no, get out by next, as fast as possible.
7:51🔗DrewWhat I'm saying is, I'm giving you about, I'm giving you 18 to 24 months to get out. To get out. If you don't get your S together, get your associate degree and get the, or AA, or whatever the hell you get, and get the S out of there, that's it.
8:14🔗DrewYou don't leave at night. Yeah, you just stay there and You sit there and you live off granola bars from the Snack Shack and you try to score weed.
8:49🔗DrewJeremy's left Jimmy Kimmel who will be here soon. Yeah, no ass, Sherlock. My sister once said, no ass, Dick Tracy, when I was smart the Corollas are.
9:01🔗DrewNice. Yeah. She knew enough not to go to junior college.
9:04🔗AdamWell, do you think anybody should study telecommunications? Unless you're going to do the technical side of it.
9:08🔗DrewOkay, look, I don't care what he studies. What I need, what I need engineer Chris to do besides not talk and you know, he needs to pot things up and he needs to freshen up my coffee. When I need engineer Chris to do, because I've taken him under my wing. He's like a little brother, even very helpful. He's like a little brother to me that I've never actually seen outside the studio. I'm going to need him to take his required classes, to focus on those, to knock those out as fast as he can and to transfer to it.
9:36🔗AdamYeah, yeah, he's on that. He's on it. I'm waiting on what comes next.
9:41🔗DrewEverybody who's wandering the halls, like the cult of the damned aimlessly wandering the halls of a junior college is on that drill. Believe me, my mom's still on it. My buddy John, he's still on it. They're on it. Do not skip past that. This is what everyone does. Everyone's like, a couple of years over here, then pow, I transfer. And then you see the calendar page is blowing by, an old man time and beards growing and volcanoes.
10:12🔗DrewNew islands forming, our crust cooling, our earth's core cooling and stars and new galaxies forming and more calendars and they're still roaming the halls of the junior college. You take all the classes you have to, you hustle your ass out of there. And then when it's time to go to a real school, then you come talk to the ace man. We'll work one out for you. And I'm gonna get you a sweater. With, you know, kind of has the pockets like that. And put it like a Letterman sweater. Chicks dig that, chicks dig that. All right, now, what was I saying? Oh, Kimmel. Yeah, Jeremy Piven, man who's been in, uh...
10:51🔗AdamHe must be promoting Entourage, though, because I read about him in the paper this morning. He's playing basically Artie Emanuel from Endeavor.
10:59🔗DrewHe, I don't know what any of the things you just said was.
11:32🔗DrewIt's so confusing. I didn't even know they should put the word book in it. Okay, here's my point. You don't get out of Kimmel without a little glad hand and a little elbow rubbin and everybody can make it into Kimmel's dressing room. That's the whole thing. It doesn't matter if you're on the show, in the show, near the show, around the show, you just walk in. His dressing room was packed full of people people you've never seen before and they're not dressed that nice either. Really, it's just like hobos and people just lounging about and getting drunk on Kimmel's dime.
12:05🔗AdamIt's very much of a real life entourage scene.
12:09🔗DrewExcept for Jimmy doesn't know any of them. It's not a posse. Jimmy's in the next room hoping everyone leaves. I would, Jimmy's much more gracious about this than I would be. I would be walking around, who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Out. You're all out of here. And there's literally 18 people packed into a room that would comfortably hold five at the end of every show. I went there, when I did the show last week, I had like 14 people, I knew, to just pack in there. Jimmy's no better guy at that than Jimmy, by the way. And no worse than me. There you go. And you remember that caller, Kitten, who called last night?
12:56🔗DrewCute, but not more porn star cute, not high. Remember she said high fashion model, and I said that meant she was high. Nothing wrong with her. Pretty, you know, skinny, all that stuff. But we call her fashion model material, just attractive female material. And, you know, could do a little light porn, a little Cinemax porn.
13:22🔗AdamDid you get the weird trauma feel from her? Detective porn.
13:25🔗DrewYeah. Now, just just a little deer in the headlines. It's always a little weird, too, because, hey, how you doing? Hey, great. Well, there you go. Tell you what, this is Hollywood. Sure is. All right. So let's come out. Not fishing for BJ. So that great. OK, fantastic then. Right. Good.
14:11🔗DrewIt's really you know, you're in Hollywood when you when you end the conversation with. Well, Ryan Seacrest over. He's over that way. So if you want to check that out there, it's over there. We got to head back to the Kimmel show. And there they went.
14:34🔗AdamAnd I just should be calling it tonight. Yeah, it was good. I appreciate that. She made me feel welcomed.
14:51🔗CallerWell, my boyfriend wants to have sex and I've never ever had sex before. And I've never even gotten a tampon in. So I really don't know what to do.
15:02🔗AdamYou don't want to have sex, I suspect, then, right?
15:30🔗AdamThe rest of my life with you is nonsense. Do not listen to that. Okay. He may even feel it, he may even believe it when he says it, but no, no, no, no. Now you sound like you're just completely unprepared to do this and may have some sort of some vaginismus or some problem there that prevent you from doing it. So until you can really relax and you're really sure it's something you want to do, I would suggest you not even consider it. And it sounds also that the only reason you're even considering it is he is just pounding on you about it and you think somehow it's important to him, therefore you should want to do it. You don't want to do that. Yeah. Be honest with yourself. That's fine. And if indeed he is the man that wants to spend the rest of his life with you, he will hang around. Take your time.
16:20🔗DrewAll right. I found that depressing for some reason. I can't figure out why. What do you want?
16:26🔗AdamBecause we actually helped somebody probably.
16:27🔗DrewIs that what that was? I was reading Jeremy Piven's biography here.
16:32🔗AdamThat depresses you too because it's so extensive and he works hard. Remember how he works for his jobs?
16:38🔗DrewI remember that. I remember him flaunting that. I remember throwing that in my face. Oh, by the way, he's a year younger than me and he's done 750,000 movies.
16:49🔗AdamI think what you could do if you actually hustle a little bit.
16:52🔗AdamI didn't hustle. I just woke up and I moved.
16:55🔗DrewLet me explain something and you know my policy regarding myself, which is I'm good. Everyone else or most other people aren't that good. Therefore, why should I be great? I could bust my hump and be great, but instead, I could show up too much before the show starts and I don't really work that hard and still be better than ever.
17:16🔗AdamI don't mean you should necessarily try to, you should work at the jobs you actually get. How about just getting out and getting some jobs?
18:08🔗DrewThat's all right, a little stunt driving. Let me tell you something about cars. Your car has like 30 airbags and 15 crumple zones. You're fine. You're driving basically is like one of those barrels they take down Niagara Falls. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's a capsule.
18:24🔗AdamYou're fine. You've got curtain airbags and stuff.
18:35🔗DrewBut let me tell you, you don't go. That's why you have a passive restraint system. You don't just have a seatbelt that just belts you in. Your seatbelt will actually give a little, let you go a little and then you hit the airbag and all is forgiven.
19:01🔗DrewYeah. So go sick. That's all I'm telling everybody. Look, I understand when you got four bald tires on a VW Squareback and the steering wheel essentially is a spear and all you got between you and the bumper of the car, the T-Bones is a sixteenth of an inch of galvanized sheet metal, you're screwed. But, Drew, anyone drives a new car, you got sidebar protection and crumple zones and skirt airbags and stuff, go out there, get sick, go nuts, you're fine.
19:36🔗AdamJust wondering if you've influenced the driving in Los Angeles, things have not become perhaps a slight bit less safe.
19:42🔗DrewNo, I'll tell you why. A, no one listens to the show. B, the people I'm talking to definitely don't listen to the show.
19:49🔗AdamYeah, but the point is the ones you do are already scooting around pretty good.
19:54🔗DrewYeah, well, I'm just I would encourage people to drive recklessly. Tracy?
20:04🔗CallerHow's it going? I called tonight because I'm kind of confused about like some, I guess some choices I've made with my relationships with the guys that I'm intimate with. I was dating a guy for like about two years and we were engaged and I found out he was doing heroin and so I left him. He's since over the past like six, seven months has like, like I had to call the cops and like he got put in jail and then he went to like rehab and now he's in like a halfway house and I talk to him and I see him and I realize like I still really care about him and I'd really love to be with him. I want to like believe that people can change because I care about him so much.
20:57🔗AdamThey can, but if you're going to be with him, you have to change too. You must be in a program, you must be either a therapist and or Alan on with a 12-step sponsor otherwise this relationship will bring him back to heroin. I guarantee it.
21:47🔗CallerHe is. He was in like a rehab place and now he's in like a halfway house.
21:51🔗AdamThat's all a good sign. But listen, the fit that you had when he was using will still be there if he allows himself to slide back into this relationship. And if he does, it will undo some of the work he does unless you grow to meet him where he's at in his recovery. Because it's a hard concept to understand, but people fit like a hand in glove. And the state he was in when he was using is the state you were in love with and that he might even want to get back to. And you certainly will unconsciously draw him back to unless you yourself change so that hand glove fit is altered in his new, more sort of evolved state.
22:28🔗DrewAll right. I don't know what that means, but I'm sure it was eloquent meant something to her. And it was well said.
22:58🔗DrewHe was on Ellen Forever, which wouldn't be a bad name for a show. You know, it just keeps going and going and going and going. It's crazy. There's like 60 movies here. OK, let's take ourselves a little break. Yeah. Ready? Yeah. All right. Engineer Chris is here.
23:21🔗DrewIt's going to Pasadena City College. Drew's going to help pick up, pick out a new fall program for him. Yes. Nobody loves college more than Drew. That's true. Except for, Junior College shouldn't have the word college. We will, but the word junior, I'm okay with that part. It should just be called junior. Yeah, let's move on. We'll, we'll take ourselves a quick break and we'll be right back after this.
23:56🔗CallerYJ Stinger Extreme Energy Drink, made by the manufacturers of Stacker II, the world's strongest fat burner.
24:32🔗DrewI'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Jeremy Piven, actor, will be in here, and just a couple of few. I'll tell you what, Drew, I had people have been listening, you know, about a week ago, I had this hernia surgery. I peeled like some of the junk off of me, like, you know, bandage-wise. But then, then there's other stuff doesn't seem to be coming off.
24:58🔗AdamThat stuff that's taped down there? Yeah, let it come off by itself.
25:07🔗AdamThey're just called steris strips, just leave them on.
25:08🔗DrewBut they're not like butterfly bandages?
25:10🔗AdamThey're relative, yeah, they'll fall off on their own.
25:12🔗DrewSo instead of putting a stitch in an incision.
25:15🔗AdamThey may just put a steris strip on there, yeah.
25:17🔗DrewI think they put a stitch on the inside that dissolves, and then the strip hangs out for a couple of weeks and then falls off. You know, crazy, that's how crazy glue is invented, by the way.
25:32🔗AdamThey have a bunch of wounds, glues now too, in addition.
25:34🔗DrewI mean, if you think about it, take a little crazy glue, put it between your thumb and your forefinger, put them together, you don't get it apart. Now, picture some guy out in the battlefield, just stepped on a bouncing Betty, got a big flap of skin flying all over the place. You're trying to medivac them out of there. A little crazy glue. Yeah, goes from that to the guy with the hard hat stuck to the I-beam.
26:12🔗AdamThey should have just done the whole thing, right? If you're gonna do it, you're gonna do the whole thing. The landing strip there looks a little weird.
26:17🔗DrewYeah, it's weird and it goes down and it's very...
26:43🔗DrewBumbled, yeah. And the sack, blue. Ashley? Yeah, you know, it looks like it's like a big, big set of purple figs just hanging between my legs.
27:00🔗DrewYeah, it's great. Ashley? Yeah, oh, let me say this too, Drew. How about a little heads up, by the way, when you go in and get your surgery, next day when you're examining your junk, it's gonna be a mess. I mean, you can have a blue sack.
27:18🔗AdamWell, no, the blue sack, it's not necessarily the case, but yeah.
27:22🔗DrewThat'll go ahead and give you the option, though. You know what I mean?
27:25🔗AdamWell, they figured you'd know they've been mucking around down there.
27:28🔗DrewI can do the math, but it's still disconcerting.
27:33🔗AdamYou might say to them some phone calls. You might say to them a couple phone calls, huh?
27:35🔗DrewThat's what I'm saying, yeah. All right, Ashley, go ahead.
27:38🔗CallerOkay, my boyfriend and I have been going out for three months, and I'm a virgin, and he's not, and he really is pressuring me to have sex with him.
27:47🔗AdamHow old is he? Yeah, you will regret it the rest of your life.
27:54🔗DrewThat's right, and the rest of your life won't be long because he could give you AIDS, and probably will, because let me explain something. I don't care for your white virgin living in Arizona who's 14 years old. You have just as much chance of getting AIDS as if you're manning a glory hole in Tanzania. But there's no difference. There's no difference. I've seen the commercials, Drew. Everyone can get AIDS, and it's all the same. And it's straight, gay, we can't judge. It doesn't matter where you are. It doesn't matter what your culture is. It doesn't matter what kind of bizarre gross activity you're engaging in. It doesn't matter. We could all get AIDS tomorrow. You're heterosexual. You think you're in a monogamous relationship. You better use a condom, mister. You could get yourself AIDS tonight. Do you understand? It's all of us. It's all the same. There's no difference.
28:46🔗AdamThere's this international AIDS conference they're having right now. They're deciding whether or not to allow people to talk about condoms as a way of helping prevent AIDS. It's unbelievable.
28:54🔗DrewLet me just say something. Here's my international AIDS conference. Hey, all you whackball countries over there, if you want to call yourself countries such as Africa, stop porking and raping everybody. Put the goddamn Jimmy on and shut up. You're not going to get any money from us, you retards. I would just like, here's my AIDS conference. Listen, listen all you screwball countries. Look, see the calendar? 2004, you idiots. I don't know where you guys are. Somewhere in the 50s, 1850s, you're beating the drum, you're looking at the sky. Put the stupid condom on. Stop effing everybody. Let's go. I don't know, somehow AIDS cannot be controlled in Africa, and somehow that's our fault. We did it to them. We're not doing enough for them. How about someone goes over there and yells at them? Attention, attention tards. Knock it off. Oh, no, we've got to figure out a way to convey. Why do we got to figure out a way? What the hell do we do? Why do we invent everything that's bad? And why does every effed up culture around the country and around the world that's doing their own crazy thing, killing themselves, why is that laying in our to-do basket? Why is that in our in-basket? You screwballs want to kill yourselves? Fine. You're not getting any money from us. Why are we bad people for not stopping idiots from doing idiotic things who pray to retarded gods and have bizarre ritualistic things that are millions of years old in a culture that's like, oh, this is Stone Age. Why is that our fault? We have to figure out a way to convince these people. Let them figure it out. Let somebody else figure it out. And by the way, when we figure it out, everyone just gets pissed off at us anyway. Screw you. Here's some condoms. Start using them, you idiots. I don't know what you're doing over there. I don't know. And by the way, we can't judge. We can't judge. Everyone's raping everybody. No one's using protection. Everyone's passing this disease around because they joined at the Doobie Brothers concert. But there's going to be no judging. No, no, it's impossible to judge. I'm judging. You're idiots. Can we start judging? Maybe we should judge. Here's the judgment. Jackoffs. Stop it. You're retards. All right. Are we giving you no money? Jeremy Piven is here, by the way. Yeah, we cannot judge. We can't judge. Everything's the same. All the cultures are the same. It's all great. So Ashley. Yeah, you could get AIDS.
31:32🔗AdamThe rest of your life, wish you waited longer. I've never met a woman who had sex at 14 that was glad she had done that. That woman does not exist. Yeah.
31:42🔗DrewThis is a big two years, by the way, the 16 to 14.
31:48🔗CallerHe says that, because I'm also worried about getting pregnant, and he says that a couple days after my period, there's practically no chance of me getting pregnant.
31:59🔗AdamYeah, he's not right. It's less chance, but relax.
32:02🔗DrewNo, he's kind of right. I mean, look, give the guys props.
32:05🔗AdamWe might as well have sex during the period then.
32:11🔗DrewPlease don't do it. Please, everyone stop having sex with me. And the people who I want to watch have sex. Yes, Jeremy Piven here, everybody. How was Kimmel? Did you have a good time?
32:23🔗Jeremy PivenYeah, it is a show. I was listening to your show, and you were saying that it wasn't a show. It's more of a party, but it is a party and a show.
32:36🔗Jeremy PivenYou're going to party like it's a shardy.
32:39🔗DrewHere's the thing about the Kimmel Show. Lots of people, nobody wants to go home, everyone likes to have a little booze afterward, and after the show, it's like 9 o'clock, everyone's been there since 9.30 in the morning, and no one's going anywhere. They're just hanging around the green room, eating something.
32:56🔗AdamI've noticed a lot of the guests start hammering before they go on.
33:13🔗DrewNo, no, there are guys. There are stand-up comics who blow a spleef and then go out and do an hour and 20 minutes. I'd just go out there, there'd be like 10 seconds of silence, then you'd just see a wet stain in my crotch, and then I would start weeping and I would run. Not go over something.
33:30🔗Jeremy PivenEveryone reacts differently to THC, which is fascinating to me.
33:35🔗DrewYeah, I don't mind getting stoned and going on a road trip or something, but I'm not going to stand in front of 1,300 people and try to do an hour's worth of comedy.
33:43🔗AdamThat's the marijuana addict thing, which is that they feel more effective, and they feel quite focused and less anxious, and that's why they use that drug, because it works for them.
33:57🔗Jeremy PivenI've never taken an herbal medication, but I have a friend who, when they take it, instead of getting hungry, they don't get hungry. Yeah, and it actually increases their energy instead of dulls it.
34:21🔗DrewWell, here's what I'm saying. No, I figured this out. White guys get the munchies. Black guys, you don't see, you don't see, first off, Snoop Dogg smokes two kilos of weed a day. He's 130 pounds, he's 6'4.
34:35🔗AdamAnd you've never seen him with a brown...
34:36🔗DrewYou don't see black guys getting stoned like...
34:38🔗Jeremy PivenHe's like 48% whippet. He's not an African American, by the way.
34:41🔗DrewYou may be right, but the point is, black guys don't get stoned and go, we gotta go on a run. We gotta go on a burger run. They don't. They just get stoned and they hang out. They don't eat.
34:54🔗Jeremy PivenI see a lot of the brothers at In-N-Out Burger.
34:56🔗DrewBut they're eating... I'm not saying a black man can't eat when he's stoned. I'm saying white guys get stoned and get the munchies. White guys go like, we're going now. We're stoned, we're going to eat. Black guys like, we're stoned. If it's lunch, we're eating. If it's not, we're just gonna keep smoking more weed. But they don't get the munchie thing that the white man gets. We're weaker. I'm saying we're inferior race that way. We're slave to the drug.
35:26🔗DrewI don't know what that is. But I will smoke some weed on stage.
35:30🔗AdamBy the way, Jeremy, Adam is still ruminating about the last time you were here when you announced how hard you work for every audition. I was heartbroken. He's not gotten over that. The idea of work, Adam, is a very touchy subject.
35:42🔗DrewLast time Jeremy Piven was on this program, I said to him, how is it that you've made 50 films in the last 17 years? He said, I work very hard at the audition process.
35:58🔗DrewI get off copy, I get the script, I memorize it, I work it. I work it with my coach sometimes. I go in there and I hit it out of the ballpark. I impress people and I was sickened by that.
36:10🔗AdamHe barfed that night. He threw up later on that same night.
36:15🔗DrewI turn against you. It works less. Yeah, I work less. I thought you were going to say your dad was the king of show business. Or something like that. That would be easier for you. It would be so much easier if you just said your dad was the mayor of show business.
36:33🔗Jeremy PivenBut if you also challenged yourself, you would probably go to the next level. That's what happens with everyone.
36:37🔗DrewI know, but I don't want to challenge myself. That's what I'm saying. I'm looking for ways to not challenge myself.
36:46🔗AdamAdam's idea is about efficiency, not about work. Efficiency of movement, of breath, of thought.
36:53🔗DrewI would go on an audition. If they would guarantee me, I would get the part before I did the audition.
36:58🔗AdamThen you would say, why do I need to go?
37:17🔗Jeremy PivenOkay. But what I'm saying is, just for the hell of it, just step out there and do it, you would ultimately be so gratifying, you might kind of almost get addicted to it.
37:26🔗DrewBut do you still, and I know the answer is yes, you still go out on auditions, but after your resume reading, I mean, there's not a casting agent alive that isn't incredibly familiar with your work. At a certain point, they just go, Jeremy Piven will work nicely here, and let's just go get him.
37:47🔗Jeremy PivenYeah, and this is going to make you, I'm sorry, but more sick. Okay, here it comes.
37:54🔗Jeremy PivenNo, you imagine. I insist on working. I will not take the job. I need to prove it, my good man. No, here's what happens. I'm not kidding now.
38:05🔗AdamHe doesn't take charity, Adam. He has to work for his life.
38:10🔗Jeremy PivenOkay. I didn't get a job one time, went in there and busted my ass, and then I was really confused about it, and someone showed me the breakdown, and it said Jeremy Piven type is what they were looking for. Yes, so I have not gotten the job when it said Jeremy Piven type. So it happens. Okay, this will make you feel better. Entourage, I did not have to audition for. But here's what happened, which is interesting. They said come in and read for it, and initially it was ensemble piece, and it would be maybe a couple scenes a week, and really like kind of a sixth lead kind of a vibe. And I did Larry Sanders, a regular on Larry Sanders, ten years ago doing, and I loved that show, and I figured, you know what, I'd love to meet these guys and talk about it, but I don't want to go on audition. That's where I put my foot down. And my agency at the time, William Moore said, no, you got to go in and dance for Whitey. You got to do it. And I said, you guys, let's play hardball with them. Finally they did. I went in and met with them for a while. And you auditioned? No, no, we just went, met, kicked it around, talked about the role, and then I got a call from my agent saying, well, two things. I said, what? They go, number one, they want to offer you the role. Number two, they want to make the show about you. Which is really interesting, because, but eight minutes ago they were like, you got to come in and dance for Whitey. That's it. And so I finally put my foot down, and at a certain point, and I think maybe I'm kind of almost at that point now, where I've got to stand up for myself and say, yeah, I've put some work out there, and here's my reel, take a look at it, and let's sit down and kick around ideas about the show.
39:41🔗DrewAnd there's a difference between doing TV and doing movies, too.
39:45🔗AdamNow, you're not actually playing the partner of a Endeavor talent agency.
39:55🔗Jeremy PivenNo, she duped me. Here's what they said to me. We're doing an article about entourage, and we're skewing it more towards you. We really dig some of the stuff you did in the show. I said, great. We sit down, all of a sudden, I pick up the paper, and it's the stuff about Ari Emanuel. I mean, they duped us. Look, Mark Wahlberg's agent is Ari Emanuel, right? If you see this character, you know, and if you know Ari, you know, this isn't, I'm not stealing all of Ari's stuff. The thing is, you can get an inspiration for an agent any way, if the three of us went out tonight, we can run into 14 agents, you know, in the next hour, and all of them can, you know, be inspiring in terms of grabbing different things. This is, you write about the truth as you know, and you play it through.
40:35🔗AdamAdam has always been inspired by agents. Those are the words that go together.
40:38🔗Jeremy PivenI'm sorry, I'm sorry. Not inspired by them, but if you indeed were playing one, you know, you spend a few minutes with them, you know, and they say things like, you know, let's put a pin in that idea, you know, I hope we're on the same page. You know, listen, let's put you on a short list. I like that. They say things like that and they twitch a lot.
40:54🔗Jeremy PivenRight, at the end of the day, I want to wear a buttery sweater and be in the Jeremy Piven business, you know.
40:59🔗DrewPiven will roll over in bed for under $50K, all right?
41:02🔗Jeremy PivenThey cross their arms, they twitch a lot, and they don't care about you, and it's an interesting, you know.
41:07🔗DrewListen, I make my agent call me Babydoll. I like it. James Babydoll Dixon, he calls me Babydoll. That's what I insist on. All right, we got to take a break.
41:18🔗Jeremy PivenIs your agency Epsilon Bar? What's the name of your agency?
41:23🔗DrewI like that. We'll take ourselves a little break. Jeremy Piven is here. Entourage, name of the show. Sunday, July 18th. That is this Sunday, HBO. Ten o'clock, going to be the next big HBO hit. We will take ourselves a break and we'll be right back.
41:40🔗DrewThanks. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1, Jeremy Piven here tonight. Entourage, name of the new show, 10 o'clock on HBO Sunday night, coming up this Sunday, premiering this Sunday. And I don't, you know, it's like, I don't know if anyone's gonna catch HBO anymore. I mean, like, they won, like, you know, nominated for like 100 Emmys last year, like ABC, got four, and they were in the technical categories and stuff. Like, is it, it-
42:44🔗DrewIt is, well, most of their ideas, most of the things they do are smart, or at least, if they're not smart, they're so well executed that they're incredibly watchable. It doesn't matter whether it's, you know, 10 feet under or sopranos or whatever, six feet under, sorry, or sopranos or whatever. But the point is, is, you know, I wonder if... Here's what I think about when I think about HBO versus, you know, Networx, ABC and stuff like that. It's sort of like what the Japanese were doing to the car market in the early 70s. It's like these little fuel-efficient little things started creeping in, and the Americans were very cocky about like, oh, we'll just keep making big gas-guzzling ugly pieces of, and these things started trickling in, and it was like, eh, don't worry. Before, you know, they had 80% of the market because nobody made a move, and then they started to make a move, and by then, they were a day late and a dollar short, and now, 20 years later, they're sort of catching back up. I wonder what the Networx need to do, and if they're seeing this, and what they're doing about it.
43:52🔗Jeremy PivenWell, what's fascinating to me is the Networx don't even seem to look at their own history, to learn kind of like what works and what doesn't. They don't even study like their own evolution. I mean, if you look at the shows that are the most successful, Seinfeld, all these shows out of the gate were not hits. None of them. They stayed with it. They had some faith in them, but unfortunately, now the turnover rate is so fast with these executives that are running the network. They've got to make moves fast, so they can't kind of stick their necks out as they think of it and get behind a show and move it around until it catches on. Cable can, and what HBO does, and I almost feel like I manifested this job just because I'm such a fan of the HBO shows right now.
44:47🔗Jeremy PivenIt really is so unbelievably watchable, and I follow them all. I mean, I remember being at the premiere of Six Feet Under, and Alan Ball was saying he got one note from HBO, and that was to make it edgier. Can you imagine a network saying that? It just doesn't happen. They celebrate the creators, and also I will say that they, because being on Larry Sanders 10 years ago, they get out.
45:29🔗DrewDid Larry Sanders start on, was it HBO or Showtime?
45:33🔗Jeremy PivenIt started on HBO, it was, you know, it was, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was kind of the show that kind of kicked off original programming on HBO. And in the beginning, we couldn't book anyone. And it was just tough because it was like, what's that show? We were trying to, you know, book people from the behind the scenes stuff. You couldn't get anyone to do it. And it caught on and then it was great. But not a lot of people had HBO back in the day. And now, you know, I've been on a bunch of shows before, but I've never, ever in all the shows I've done, ever had a lead in like this. You know, Six Feet Under, this is a great celebrated show. Yeah, so it's kind of amazing. And they do get out of your way. I think the variable with HBO is they, you know, They're ashamed to let them run. They do. They're choosy. You know, I mean, there's one show they picked up for the season and it's entourage. And they kind of like, let us do our thing. And they definitely had notes, but they're not there on the set all the time, breathing down your neck. You feel like you have, you know, room to breathe.
46:30🔗DrewRight. And one of those suits is, Drew and I call them, ever really added anything to any project. All right. Let's talk to Lacey for like 10 seconds and then we'll go to break. Lacey? You're 15?
47:05🔗DrewOh, because you know why? Because when the program director yells at me, I can technically say we did take a call this break, even if it was us telling Lacey to hang on because we didn't have time for her. So hang on, Lacey. All right? Uh-huh. All right, Jeremy Piven here tonight from Entourage HBO on Sunday nights, 10 o'clock. Take a quick break and we'll be right back.
47:30🔗CallerAll right, guys, here's the deal. Looking to hook up? Call the Dateline. Sick of wasting time with the wrong person?
48:31🔗DrewIt's Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Jeremy Piven is here tonight, the busiest man in show business, and nice transition back to television. I mean, I would say a guy's done as many features as Jeremy has done, and then as many television shows as Jeremy has done. Going back to television and doing it on HBO, and doing it Sunday night, the coveted Sunday night slot, 10 o'clock. Entourage is a good way to get back into television, and Jeremy, I think I brought this up last time we were here. We worked on a project together called the Judgement Night. Jeremy was in that.
49:13🔗Jeremy PivenNatalie, it's now getting a big push on DVD.
49:17🔗DrewI should go get that. Yeah, because Jeremy was actually in the movie, and I was next to the movie as one of the stand-ins for one of the bad guys in Judgement Night.
49:35🔗DrewCould have been 92, could have been 93. Jeremy was in it.
49:38🔗AdamYou take a note, Chris? He was 29 at the time.
49:41🔗DrewDennis Leary was in it. Cuba Gooding Jr. was in it. Emilio Estevez was in it. And Everlast from House of Pain, one of the bad guys. I was one of the bad guys, stand-in. Stand-in, kush gig, by the way. If you're lazy, you just stand there. You literally, it's got the word stand in it.
50:05🔗DrewThen you just go eat. And if you're smart, you get one of the other stand-ins to work the watch, which is, I'm gonna take a nap over here by the catering truck, come get me, if they come screaming. Because if you don't show up, they get PO'd.
50:20🔗Jeremy PivenSee, but is it, answer me truthfully, would it be more fun just to be a piece of veal? You know what I mean? Because that's what it seems like. And I know that you break into a sweat when you start talking about work, but ultimately the highs are really high, but standing in and just standing around like cattle then going and grazing, the payoffs aren't so great.
50:44🔗DrewI'll tell you the rush of standing in and if you haven't experienced the sheer, it's a pure adrenaline, it's a pure shot of adrenaline. When that director yells, hey, what's your face over here? Come here. And then you stand there. And for me, it was funny because I was-
51:01🔗AdamIsn't there a youth, don't they go second team?
51:03🔗DrewSecond team, second team. Yeah, they should just call you JV. I was standing, I only got the gig because my buddy, Robbie Levine, was the like second AD on the movie. Jewish guy in the industry, Drew. Point is, is he got me the gig out of the goodness of his own heart. And I was standing in for a guy who was four inches taller than and who had hair down to the back of his, middle of his back. And I had a short haircut. And I just remember the lighting director the first day I showed up just sort of slowly scanning the group. If you remember, like the guy who stood in for Dennis Leary looked exactly like Dennis Leary. You kind of have to look like the guy so they can light you. Yeah. Your height, your build, your hairstyle, whatever. I looked here. He like, he did that move where he, he panned across, he passed me and then went back to me and gave me like a, who are, and then somebody like yelled something and he gave me like a, listen, whatever. I could just stand there.
52:02🔗Jeremy PivenYou've been freaking that guy out ever since.
52:04🔗DrewI'm sure like, how did the guy with the short hair who's 6'2 get the stand-in job for the guy who's 5'8 and no long hair?
52:12🔗Jeremy PivenAnd now why is he talking about sexual disorders and he's, and he's a celebrity, he's living the dream and I'm lighting a tampon commercial. See what happens?
52:21🔗DrewThat's right, he's lighting a tampon commercial.
52:23🔗Jeremy PivenWait, but by the way, speaking of that, I just bought a house.
52:27🔗Jeremy PivenYeah, and I was talking with your buddy about this on national television this evening. A lot of terrible mishaps happened. One of them being that direct TV keeps threatening to actually come to my home and install something for me, and I want to give them US currency, but they refuse to actually show up. So I'll wait five, six hours, and they just don't show up, and the joke's on me. And I just want to have some channels so that I can watch my show, or maybe have some friends over. But apparently that's not right for them, and I can't figure it out.
52:55🔗AdamHere's the, unfortunately, the worst news. If you instead invite a cable company over, you'll be like a skeleton with your clothes hanging. You'll be gone.
53:05🔗DrewYou'll be dead by the time they show up.
53:06🔗AdamYou'll look like Grim Reaper by the time they show up.
53:08🔗DrewHere's the thing. The cable, okay, don't get me started, but the cable, first off, years ago, before there was satellite, there was only cable. And the window, like you would call the cable company, and they'd literally say 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. You sit there and wait. Is the window. And it'd be like, I gotta go to work. And they'd be like, yeah, no, we got like a 14-hour window. And I said, that's not a window. That's a sliding door. That's a huge opening. That's not a window. But a window is a small opening in the side of something. That's a gaping hole. That's what the iceberg did, that the Titanic-sized mammoth hole, by the way. And they're like, yeah, well, that's it. And by the way, this wasn't for tomorrow. This was two weeks. And I was like, don't you guys have, do you have ledgers and books and things where you can put like dates and times? Do you have anything that you could write stuff down? I mean, what a job where you just tell people, look, I'll have a guy somewhere between a sunup and sundown two weeks from now, maybe, Fiv, everything lines up.
54:14🔗Jeremy PivenI've been waiting around. And when you continue, because although I'm on a show called Entourage, I don't have an entourage. I don't have an assistant. I don't have a heretic consultant or a blazer consultant or integrity consultant. So I sit at my own home waiting and the joke has been on me repeatedly. And so the second day after waiting for that six hour gaping wound, gash hole, the jokes on you situation, I decided to take a little bit of a run. So I started running down my street and every van that would pass me, I started screaming at thinking that they would possibly be direct TV. So they actually made me insane. Now I'm a guy who literally just runs up and down my street.
54:54🔗Jeremy PivenI'm screaming Verizon, I'm not even waiting for Verizon. Anyway, so but I'm gonna loop it around here.
54:59🔗DrewIt's heroin. They know they have you. What are you gonna do? What, watch you PN? You know what I'm saying? They know they got you by the short hairs. That's the thing. It's like, they realize they're the candy man. They're heroin, you wait for them.
55:21🔗Jeremy PivenI bought a home. So the good news is I live in Malibu. So I'm living the dream. You know, so I have a nice house with, with no television. And they also shut, shut my water off. I can complain about a lot of stuff, but I don't care. But I will, I do celebrate indoor plumbing, but I don't have it. But here is something, I walked outside of my house and I was like, I'm doing a movie right now about the competitive world of Bar Mitzvah. Lucky 13, and it's really, really funny and great. And my father being played by Gary Marshall, left my character 15 years ago and abandoned me. And I'm very bitter and I've, I've, you know, never kind of resolved it. And, and he come, and my son who's going to have this Bar Mitzvah, you know, invites him to it, unbeknownst to me. He shows up. I haven't seen him for 15 years with his new girlfriend, Darryl Hannah, who's brilliant in this thing. Plays this kind of spiritually enlightened kind of chick who's just wandering around, sacred feather. And so I walk outside of my house and I was like, oh my God, there's Darryl right there. And I was like, hey, Darryl, and I walk up to Darryl. And it turns out this is girl named Irelie, who lives in Malibu, who is Darryl Standen. And I just, and literally she is an absolute dead ringer. And at that, in that day, they were looking for a double for Darryl because she had to be naked in a jacuzzi with Gary Marshall, which is an interesting concept. She needs the double.
56:38🔗Jeremy PivenWell, no, Gary doesn't need a double. It is exactly what it is.
56:45🔗DrewI didn't know she was shy, by the way, Darryl, Hannah.
56:48🔗Jeremy PivenSo the end of the story is she is not shy. She's a lovely, unbelievably talented, beautiful woman who has long luscious hair to cover her areolas. Is that the word?
56:58🔗DrewThat's it. That's what they are. I like them big. That's me. I'm one of the few guys who's into that. That's all right. Let's keep going. I'm a fan. I like it. It's size of the satellite dish that you never got.
57:07🔗Jeremy PivenWow. Well, why do men have nipples? Why do men have them? Yeah.
57:15🔗AdamAll mammals have them. We just didn't evolve them away.
57:20🔗DrewMy son's going to be born with one and it's going to be on his forehead. Let's take some calls. Come on, buddy. Jeremy Piven's here. And I'll tell you. Yeah.
57:31🔗DrewHere's the problem with Jeremy Piven. He loves the sound of his own voice. I love the sound of his own voice. I love the sound of my own voice.
57:37🔗Jeremy PivenSee, but you can say my name. No one actually knows who I am.
57:41🔗Jeremy PivenWe may have to tell them where they know me from. Cause I swear to God, when I was calling DirecTV, they kept saying, okay, here's the deal, Mr. Tiven. They kept calling Mr. Tiven and they said, Mr. Piven, we'll have a, we don't, we can't find him. Mr. Piven. It's Piven, it's Piven. It's Craig Tiven, Jeremy Piven, Francis Piven.
58:02🔗DrewThere's a professor picked up the phone. Here's the thing. There's some sort of, there's some sort of, some sort of cosmic law that people that you need help from over the phone never know who you are. And security guys never know who you are. Like anybody standing.
58:17🔗Jeremy PivenAnd the girl who you really want to talk to, she'll never know.
58:23🔗DrewSo those are the three people. All right. Other than that, you're, you're huge. Lazy. You're a 15. So you, you have, you have a controlling dad.
58:36🔗CallerMore manipulative, really kind of crazy.
58:39🔗DrewYou're 15 and you sound older. You sound angry.
58:43🔗CallerUh, not really. I just kind of, a lot of stuff happened and everything when I was little that kind of, yeah, kind of messed, messed me up. I'm in counseling just so you know.
58:55🔗CallerBasically my dad had an affair and he was giving the woman, he was saying like $500 each time they met. So it put us like $50,000 in debt. So we've kind of got a problem with that. And yeah.
59:10🔗DrewWell, that's, that's called seeing a prostitute. That's not having an affair.
59:15🔗CallerWell, he's trying to impress her and everything. Make it, make it seem like he was rich, I guess. I don't know. But a while after he moved out and everything and they got the divorce, my parents, my sister was diagnosed autistic.
59:32🔗DrewSo she, hold on, don't you get that label slapped on you pretty early?
59:41🔗CallerShe was four when they diagnosed her, but she's, really they call it, there's probably an Asperger's syndrome, really, right? No, not really. She was like a normal kid and everything until she was two. And then she just like stopped with talking. She stopped talking and she just kind of cut off eye contact and she didn't really like being around people.
1:00:02🔗DrewAutism kicks in that way? I thought you weren't just born with it.
1:00:07🔗AdamIt sort of kicks in sometimes. People believe that it might have something to do with some environmental agent or something.
1:00:13🔗CallerThey think it's to do with vaccinations.
1:00:15🔗AdamWell, that actually has been ruled out. That has been finally ruled out as a cause.
1:00:21🔗DrewReally? Hold on one second. I've been talking about this at the Kimmel Show with the writers. And if I ever get another gig, first thing I do is I'm going to let the boss know that I have a kid at home with special needs.
1:00:42🔗DrewI don't think it's a good thing. I don't think it's a good thing.
1:00:46🔗AdamSince when do you have to take those kinds of things into consideration?
1:00:48🔗DrewHuge dividends. When you do that knock on the boss's door with the back of the finger, where the door's cracked open and you lean in and, Phil, can I talk to you a second? Yeah. Marshall's not having a real good day. Say no more. Say no more. Say no more. And I just leave.
1:01:02🔗AdamIt's sort of in the same category as women problems. Female problems.
1:01:09🔗DrewYou can leave. Yeah. I'm just saying, I agree with Jeremy. It's not great from a karma standpoint, but practically, it's huge. It's effective. It's effective. If you start a new job and you just let it be known, and you can be ambiguous, just say that you have a special needs child at home. Marshall's a strong name.
1:01:30🔗Jeremy PivenI have a special needs child. Maybe your inner child has special needs, which you do. You seem like you do.
1:02:02🔗DrewI know because you want to leave. It's like a date with a fat chick. We're going to have to cut a shirt. Great, Lord. You hear the car peeling out. That's like a threatening people. I'd like to get the hell home and cuss and peace.
1:02:18🔗Jeremy PivenWe've got to go wait for the duty guy. Do you ultimately get punished for that kind of stuff?
1:02:24🔗DrewNo, because we have we will we will the engineer will drop that out.
1:02:28🔗AdamAnd also there's like a 17 second delay on the show.
1:02:30🔗DrewAlso, we're we're we're in what we call Safe Harbor, which is 10 o'clock at night, which is we only we exclusively have 13 year olds listening to the show. But somehow we can say whatever we want at this time. And, you know, Howard Stern can't say what he wants at eight thirty in the morning when they're all heading to school.
1:02:48🔗Jeremy PivenWasn't it 11 seconds before Janet Jackson?
1:03:37🔗CallerYeah. Well, so my dad put us in a lot of debt and everything. So my mom kind of had to work a lot so that she could keep us pretty much off the street. Yeah. We have, we had like a really wealthy, like my great grandfather and he kind of helped us out here and there. But my mom didn't really like write it. Like, you know, like it was.
1:03:59🔗DrewAll right, hold on. I can't take any more, Lacey. I'll tell you what I'm hearing with Lacey. Someone is really angry. And, you know, we talk to people all day who are physically abused, sexually abused, ritualistically abused. Lacey stuff like her dad, not a great guy. Lacey didn't have it as bad as Lacey has it in her. She's really angry. Yeah. And I don't know what it, I don't know why she's going this route.
1:04:22🔗AdamLet's just, what is the, let's get to the question here.
1:04:27🔗CallerWell, so my mom was working and everything, and I was kind of helping out with my sister. And I know, I know, I know, I know. I'm not going to say that yet.
1:04:43🔗CallerYeah. She wanted to come in and everything. And I thought she was going to say that, you see, you see, they're saying you're angry, huh? Because she says that a lot.
1:04:51🔗DrewYeah, we are. Put her on the phone. Let me talk to her.
1:05:18🔗DrewAnd you've been saying Lacey's angry as well, right?
1:05:22🔗CallerOne of our issues is I've been trying to have her have a relationship with her dad because I think it's for the best interest in her well-being to have a father figure.
1:05:35🔗AdamShe's carrying resentments, very heavy. She strikes us as somebody who's been a little bit parentalized, you know, that she sort of had to carry a burden early, didn't get maybe what the childhood needs met.
1:05:48🔗AdamYeah, she had to take care of her and carry a burden that was undoubtedly difficult and traumatizing. But at some point, the resentments will eat her up alive.
1:05:56🔗CallerOh, that's what I try to tell her that regardless of the one thing that she wants to share with Adam is her dad. Yes, she doesn't want me to because she says Adam will not stop ranting. Her dad is a cable guy in LA.
1:06:12🔗AdamWell, no, no, he'll just want to try to set Jeremy up. Jeremy hooked up here.
1:06:18🔗CallerHe just didn't want me to say it because he was kind of ranting about it before she got on.
1:06:23🔗DrewI'll love my daughter between 6 a.m. and when the streetlights come on.
1:06:41🔗DrewThat's that grew up too early, too fast, whatever. Yeah, that anger, she's going to carry that into a relationship with men and she's going to hook up with a philanderer.
1:06:49🔗AdamYou may not be able to identify as anger. It's hard to focus on it as a resentment for her. Resentments are things you can let go.
1:06:55🔗AdamAnd she should find a way to do that, to make her life narrative her own and something that she can live with.
1:07:00🔗DrewAnd was this guy, was your, hold on a second, was your husband really spending 500 bucks a pop on his girlfriend?
1:07:07🔗CallerYes. He was trying. Well, she was the smartest girl in the world because he drove a Toyota to herself and she believed that he had money because he was giving her money.
1:07:16🔗DrewHow day did he get 500 bucks to give her?
1:07:19🔗CallerHe put us in debt, a lot of debt. We had good credit at the time and he basically borrowed it to get us into a bad situation.
1:07:28🔗AdamIs he an alcoholic or drug addict or something? Yeah, that's addict behavior, that kind of stuff.
1:07:33🔗CallerYeah, she was, it's basically a lot of pornography and stuff that he got into.
1:07:38🔗DrewImagine what this guy was doing to the panty drawers of every house he went into to install the cable. Just rifling through there like a raccoon in a dumpster.
1:07:49🔗Jeremy PivenI'll put a panty sale in front of my house if they come and fix my cable. I don't care. Tell them to come to my house, man.
1:07:54🔗DrewAre you kidding, man? Imagine that guy just like a couple of chick roommates living in an apartment. He's going to put some cable in.
1:08:04🔗DrewYou guys go to the market? You run down the line of room? I'll just be putting in some coaxial. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, coaxial, probably just diving into the bedroom, just taking everything, just burying his head in the hamper, dancing with soiled panties on his head. Actually, I would do that.
1:08:24🔗AdamI know. I think you're sort of acting like a fantasy of your own out here.
1:08:29🔗DrewMaybe that was becoming too cathartic. But listen, Lacey's mom?
1:08:35🔗DrewYou got yourself out of this bad situation. Yeah, Lacey should repair her relationship with her father, but maybe her father should be going to SA or something like that.
1:08:43🔗AdamAnd maybe she should go to a little Al-Anon or something, something where she can sort of come to terms with it.
1:08:46🔗CallerHe doesn't feel like he has a problem. And my question for you and her issue with me is, I want her to try and have a relationship with him, and she doesn't want to. And I want to know, should that be something that I should try to have her have with him, or should I let it be?
1:09:04🔗AdamLet it gently keep the pressure up. Teach her about sexual addictions and where those come from. If she can see him as an injured human being who is acting something out, the fact that he doesn't want to get better, or on your all behalf get better, that's something certainly she could feel bad about. But to let the resentment eat her up and then becomes a focus of how she deals with men, yeah, it's going to be bad times.
1:09:26🔗DrewLook, my sister hated my dad from 7 to 37. I mean, she really hated him for maybe 25 years. I'm exaggerating. Really nothing you can do. Once they get that resentment going, they just build the case and then they keep the case alive and it never ends. I don't think you can push her toward it. What you can push her toward is acting like a 15-year-old, enjoying other guys, realizing that everyone with a penis isn't like daddy, and having normal relationships and smiling once in a while. And watch Entourage, by the way.
1:10:05🔗Jeremy PivenIt's a genius segue. I love it.
1:10:11🔗Jeremy PivenOne thing I have learned, and I'm still single, so I guess listen to nothing that I say, is that one of the first questions I ask if I go out with a woman is, what is your relationship like with your father? Yeah, because otherwise, I mean, I know what you're in for. Yeah.
1:10:30🔗DrewThat's it. And it's true. And for a guy, what's your relationship like with your mom is a decent question, but it's not the end all and be all. For women, what was your relationship like with your dad, or what is your relationship like with your dad? That's about all you need.
1:10:48🔗AdamMan, what was your upbringing like with your parents? How do you feel about them? Have your previous girlfriends been where they've been live? Have your relationships gone?
1:10:57🔗DrewWhat's dad like? How's your relationship with him? Do you do anal? Those are my two. I just go right, I do those two. I do the anal one and I do the dad one.
1:11:08🔗DrewYeah. And by the way, if surf and turf is on the menu, it's not. Do you know what I'm saying? It's not an option. You get to surf or the turf, but the surf and the turf, not both. No, not both. I don't need both.
1:11:21🔗AdamSo it's anal, just anal is fine, but...
1:11:23🔗DrewJust anal. Okay, here's what. If you like your dad and you do anal, you can get surf and turf. That's the triangle. I call it the pyramid.
1:11:32🔗AdamYeah, Corolla's pyramid of hierarchies, hierarchy of needs. It's the first day pyramid.
1:11:40🔗DrewJeremy Piven is here tonight. He subscribes to the Corolla pyramid theory as it comes to dating. I think the anal is at the top, or it might be at the bottom. Actually, it's at the bottom right corner.
1:11:51🔗Jeremy PivenWell, actually, it's become the Bermuda Triangle now.
1:11:53🔗DrewThat's right. I call it the Devil's Triangle.
1:12:22🔗DrewHey, everybody, it's Loveline. It was Loveline until Piven got us tossed off the air. When Jeremy Piven screamed F face into the microphone, and we told him not to worry about it because we had a 17 second delay, apparently that wasn't long enough for our engineer. Now, don't worry about it. It's cool. We'll land on our feet. I'm a carpenter, dude, so I mean, I always got work. I mean, that's cool. Drew's a doctor.
1:12:51🔗Jeremy PivenI've got nothing. I mean, literally, I mean, you're cool.
1:13:03🔗DrewYou don't need the show. Drew's a doctor. Like I said, I'm a carpenter. I think Kim will toss me a bone. Let me punch up some of the monologues or something. I think we're going to land on our feet.
1:13:18🔗Jeremy PivenI might have single-handedly taken down Loveline. Oh, wait.
1:13:24🔗AdamNow, let's see if they can handle that one.
1:13:47🔗Jeremy PivenDr. Drew, tell me why I do that. Why do I do that? Why do you have Tourette's? No, that's not, voluntary Tourette's, is that possible? I mean, why do you, why did I do that just now?
1:14:11🔗Jeremy PivenI need to live in extremes. I need to figure out, I need to push the envelope.
1:14:16🔗DrewHe's a figure. I was explaining to Jeremy that he got us tossed. Jeremy used the term F face, except for he used the entire word. And it was taken off the air here in Los Angeles, the F part, but nationally, the other 85 cities didn't quite catch it.
1:14:40🔗DrewActually, they did catch it during the explanation of that.
1:14:43🔗AdamActually, some of them will be on tomorrow night. Maybe they can fix it on the 12th or something.
1:14:46🔗DrewAh, let's not do that. During that explanation, Jeremy dropped the F bomb once again, which would be funny if it didn't involve us losing our jobs. But how does this work? How does Jeremy, how does he harness this energy and use it for good?
1:15:07🔗AdamHe does, he likes to push the envelope, but it's all right. It's all good.
1:15:11🔗Jeremy PivenDid you see how easy he took it on me just now? He could have crushed me.
1:15:21🔗DrewNo, I gotta say, I love profanity. It's a great way to make a point. And if we get thrown off the air, so be it. That's what I say.
1:15:32🔗Jeremy PivenBut that was me doing it, not you guys.
1:15:34🔗AdamNo, here's the deal. You like to push things along, which is a good instinct. And it's up to the people that run the show to decide how far to let that run. That's all.
1:15:45🔗AdamJust the people that run the show, let us down.
1:15:48🔗DrewRight. That's right. Everything's good. Everything's good. Just no more talking. Krista? You're 26? Let's see. Doc puts you on pain medications, even though you once were an addict.
1:16:05🔗CallerYes, the same medication that I was on when I went through detox.
1:16:42🔗AdamOf course. Krista, please, you may not have heard it, but you don't go ahead and get a procedure where you are definitely going to be given pain medicine until you've been sober a long time.
1:16:54🔗AdamYou do everything you can to avoid dental work or elective procedures where you're gonna need opiates. I mean, people are not into you suffering.
1:17:01🔗DrewOf course you need them. What about if weed is your drug of choice or booze? Would they still give you that?
1:17:07🔗AdamIt can re-trigger the whole disease, but it's especially the opiate addicts that they must, must avoid situations where they're likely to be exposed to drugs that will just reactivate the disease. All the thinking, all the preoccupations, it's just game on again, Kristen.
1:17:20🔗CallerSo I'm gonna have to go to this withdrawal once I'm off this Percocet.
1:17:24🔗AdamForget the withdrawal. Yes, you'll have to withdraw, but your addiction is activated. And that's the problem.
1:17:30🔗CallerSo I'll go through that whole thing over again with the shaking and the...
1:17:33🔗AdamWell, the withdrawal may not be so bad, but clearly you didn't get with the program. Clearly you didn't. Because first of all, your sponsor never would have let you do this. You wouldn't be so preoccupied with the withdrawal right now. You'd be more interested in your addiction, which is separate from the withdrawal. You've really not done your work. So naturally enough, your disease will reactivate one way or another. And it's time to get back in the game.
1:17:56🔗DrewIs it game on with the Percocet now? Are you back with it?
1:18:00🔗CallerI have it. Because they had to redo the surgery again because there was a saroma in there. So I just got out of Cedars and I'm kind of like back on the Percocet and they keep handing it to me. And I told them to give me something that didn't have an opiate in it.
1:18:12🔗AdamWell, nothing else is going to have any good pain.
1:18:24🔗CallerYeah, a tummy tuck done. And then I had to go back in because there was a saroma.
1:18:29🔗Jeremy PivenI'm sorry. I'm so ignorant. Why did you get that? Because I don't understand what that is exactly.
1:18:33🔗CallerI had a couple C-sections, so I had some skin hanging down.
1:18:38🔗AdamCosmetic procedure. And by the way, the saroma is no big deal, too. It usually resolves on its own. So she obviously was pushing, pushing, pushing.
1:18:45🔗Jeremy PivenNow, are you someone, sorry to break in, I have no knowledge of anything in the world.
1:18:51🔗Jeremy PivenWould a woman like you try to, did you try to exercise and all that kind of stuff, and then it didn't work for you, and then you went for the tummy tuck, or did you just go right for that?
1:18:59🔗CallerI tried to exercise and stuff, but a lot of the doctors said that it wouldn't go away by itself, that I would need the tummy tuck, so.
1:19:05🔗Jeremy PivenBut you did it, you died, and you exercised.
1:19:08🔗CallerYeah, and then it looked good to me, because I thought everybody was doing it, and then I wanted it, so.
1:19:13🔗AdamAfter a pregnancy, when there is disruption of the abdominal wall musculature, and there's a basically a panacea that develops, that's not going away.
1:19:52🔗Jeremy PivenNo, not Johnny Carson, but not Johnny Carson.
1:19:54🔗DrewI'm just thinking of a famous Colonies guy, that's all.
1:19:57🔗Jeremy PivenListen, I don't have the US currency for the Colony. I live in the Malibu ghetto, literally, but it's still Malibu.
1:20:02🔗DrewNo, I know. We'll talk during the break, because I am a home improvement guy, and you probably have something you want to do over there, beyond just getting satellite.
1:20:12🔗Jeremy PivenI'm knocking down walls, I'm getting into it.
1:20:14🔗DrewWe're going to talk, because I'm going to tell you things.
1:20:19🔗DrewI worry Krista over here, and Drew was getting the vibe off of her almost immediately. There's issues, there's things going on.
1:20:27🔗AdamShe has done not one shred of work in her recovery. I'm not going to talk to her anymore, because it's going to be coming.
1:20:31🔗DrewI know, I'm going to yell at her, but listen, Krista. You're going to screw your kid up, you understand? All that c-sectioning and tummy tucking, and your attitude is what's going to f up this kid. Something's wrong.
1:20:54🔗AdamKrista, this is a disease that you have to be involved in the treatment of for many, many months. You can't just detox and expect it to end. It will always resurface.
1:21:03🔗DrewWhat about your proclamation not to talk to her? Quiet down. Krista. Yeah. You're going to screw your kid up. Hey, you're laughing because I know you think you're the world's greatest mom, but you're angry and you're going to screw your kid up, so stop it.
1:21:19🔗DrewIt's good enough. I know. These are the addicts that have the come back and the retort for everything. Yes, they call and they blame this person. They blame everybody but themselves.
1:21:30🔗AdamWhat you have to understand is that she has trouble seeing this because addiction is a disruption of the motivational priorities of the brain. Everything she feels, every thought she has is affected by this motivational system that has been distorted by the opiates. So naturally, anything that gets in the way of that is going to be pushed aside.
1:21:47🔗DrewRight. Let's talk to Renee who is 23. Renee? What's up?
1:21:55🔗CallerI'm calling because I have this problem where I bleed during sex and it's only with one particular guy. It's with four guys and it's always with this one particular guy that I bleed with during sex. And he's the smallest guy I've ever been with but he's also the only guy that I don't use production-wise. I don't know if condom versus no condom has anything to do with it or what. I mean, we're very gentle. It's not like it's rough. It's not like it hurts.
1:22:19🔗DrewWell, the first thing you need to do is make him acutely aware that he's the smallest one you've been with. That's the most important thing. And I ask you to do that now and we'll wait.
1:22:27🔗AdamWe don't wear blood but he'll have lots of tears.
1:22:32🔗DrewMaybe he's so small, he's actually piercing the skin. Like getting humped with a number two pencil or something. You know what I'm saying, Drew? He's actually cutting.
1:22:42🔗AdamWe can ask him that. That'll make him feel good. No, you're like a needle. Renee, you see you don't use protection with him. That means you're not using a condom. Does that mean you're on the birth control pill?
1:23:11🔗Jeremy PivenBut is the variable an angle? Is he, maybe... Yeah. Is this particular gentleman very flexible? Yeah. Do you have a curved situation?
1:23:52🔗AdamI do not have an answer for this. I think it may be just a weird coincidence. I wonder if it's just something, just coincidental.
1:23:58🔗CallerIs there anything I can do about it? Because I'm tired of bleeding on, you know, really cutting sheets all the time.
1:24:03🔗AdamYou need to get a pap smear and maybe have a cervical polyp or something. There are things that a lot of different things can predispose to this. You got to get that checked out.
1:24:10🔗DrewThere's also a way, and Drew does this himself. He was doing it on the show the other week, which is your mind attempts to find a sort of pattern. It's constantly working, looking for patterns.
1:24:28🔗DrewYeah, it's really weird. We were getting, our phone lines were screwed up. Dr. Drew was convinced it was only line five and line two when it was all of them. And I realized he's looking for a pattern. And this is the way, this is how you go through life.
1:24:44🔗AdamThis is why you come up with the idea that throwing sacrifices into the volcano are going to prevent the volcano from erupting because somebody fell in one time. Right, it's a human thing.
1:24:53🔗DrewAll I'm saying is, is when you take some of these things, like I only bleed when I'm with this one guy and you start dissecting it and breaking it down a little bit, you realize there's other times she's bled with other guys. It hasn't been every time with this guy. But once your mind starts going down this path that establish a rhythm and a pattern, it's hard to talk yourself out of it.
1:25:15🔗Jeremy PivenOnce you believe something, there are also vibrations that you can set off from that, the truth or that feeling or that belief. And so if you're focusing on the negative, which is, oh my God, I'm going to bleed every time I'm with them, you could also be manifesting it. Is that right at all?
1:25:31🔗AdamHe's like the Dantic Jew? What? Oh, what?
1:25:39🔗DrewYeah. I don't know what... I'm not sure what tribe he's from, but he's like part of...
1:25:45🔗Jeremy PivenLook, man, I'm serious. You can manifest certain things in your life when you focus on them. If you focus on the negative, you will manifest those things.
1:25:53🔗DrewDances with Kreplach, I think, is what his tribe calls himself. All right, but here's the point.
1:26:07🔗DrewHe'll use it. Yes, there is a thing, too, especially with the body, which is if you're sort of convinced that something's going to happen, it will... I'm going to feel pain every time this, whatever, you will start feeling that pain. But producing blood is taking it a step further, but still not out of the realm or the spectrum.
1:26:28🔗Jeremy PivenNo, no. Before you touch anything, I'll give you an example. People with multiple personalities can literally change their body chemistry when they switch into another personality. So we're capable of doing those things. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of amazing. I don't know what her situation is, but think about that for a second that it's been documented like, you know, when someone switches into another personality and they were actually drunk, that they switched into another personality and suddenly there's no trace of, you know, alcohol. I mean, it gets completely unexplainable. My head is going to explode.
1:27:09🔗DrewChief Yentlbear is here tonight. We'll take ourselves a quick break. We'll be right back.
1:27:26🔗AdamYou know how guys have trouble with confidence and going out and dating and meeting girls? We have a solution.
1:27:31🔗DrewMm-hmm. Hey everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number. Oh, forget about it. We don't need your. The thing that's funny about Jeremy Piven does not cuss off the air.
1:27:55🔗AdamHe only cusses on the air. It's a form of Tourette's of some type. I think so.
1:28:00🔗Jeremy PivenNo, it's a form. I need attention. And you can break that down if you want to. And I don't care. I need to fill my soul because it's empty, maybe.
1:28:10🔗DrewIf you want to satisfy that need in Jeremy Piven, you can watch him on Entourage.
1:28:16🔗Jeremy PivenI love the way you're, as the kids say, blowing it up.
1:28:21🔗AdamPeople have been talking about that for a while.
1:28:23🔗DrewSunday Night, 10 o'clock, first one airs. And I've been hearing just a ton of buzz about it already.
1:28:29🔗AdamIs it all scripted or is it more like the Larry Sanders kind of...
1:28:33🔗Jeremy PivenIt's all scripted, but Doug Allen and Larry Charles, who is a co-creator of Curb Your Enthusiasm and co-creator of Seinfeld, they write it all out. And I kind of beg to just have at least one free one and you just kind of go for yours. And they've been great about... They kind of got the joke with me where now it got to the point where they wouldn't even do a rehearsal with me. They would just start filming from the first take and so they would let me open it up a lot more and did some stuff with Jimmy Kimmel and Sarah Silverman.
1:29:08🔗DrewThey're in... Are they in the first episode?
1:29:11🔗Jeremy PivenThey're in episode number two and it's really good actually. And we did some stuff in the green room with Sarah and I wish I could do some of the scene for you right now but I would have to swear throughout most of it, which is a problem for you guys right now.
1:29:24🔗DrewShe's excellent, by the way, and almost stand up whatever.
1:29:45🔗CallerYeah, I just want to say I love him in all his movies and I really love him in PCU when they find him and he's sleeping with a cigarette in his mouth. But I really want to know what was the most fun role for you to do in all your movies?
1:29:56🔗Jeremy PivenYou know, and I'm not just saying this, I have to say...
1:30:06🔗DrewCome on, Judgement Night, buddy. Come on, buddy, I'm right here.
1:30:10🔗Jeremy PivenWell, look at, you know, from the response we've been getting, I've never gotten reviews or a buzz like this character, you know, and it's not like I suddenly have kind of blossomed as a performer. I mean, the variable is the role itself is like, this guy is like this angel devil guy that can just rip your head off and, you know, tear you apart and then also just sell, you know, hug you and tell you how much he loves you in the next instant. So he's that guy that works that way and people don't know how to deal with him in this world. And really the entourage is about a group that surrounds this film star. And it's about all the guys who are from the East coast trying to navigate in Hollywood and have no reference for this town and be given everything for free because they're with, you know, their boy, their guy.
1:30:57🔗DrewHave there been, they've done a million movies. Have there been fun sets versus miserable sets versus ones you just don't even really remember, like don't even register?
1:31:07🔗Jeremy PivenYes, I would say a miserable set, as you know, was Judgement Night. That'd be absolutely miserable. Yes, as miserable as they come. And then entourage is great because one of the things, like I said, was they really trust you. So they let you kind of do your thing. You know, they open it up. They're not precious about their words, even though they're, you know, great words and they're collaborative. So yeah, this entourage has been a blast. All right.
1:31:32🔗DrewSo the project we collaborated on together.
1:31:35🔗Jeremy PivenYes, it was a nightmare. Maybe that's why, maybe that's one of the things that contributed to your laziness or the disaster that was that program.
1:31:44🔗DrewYeah. Well, I watched your movie. Thanks, Andrew. Let's talk to Hillary, who's 15. Hillary? Your virgin? Yeah.
1:32:12🔗CallerYeah. And I live in West Covina. So it's obviously very far and he, I mean, we haven't had sex yet or anything. I've, you know, obviously don't really think that he's just with me for sex because he would have dumped me by now.
1:32:25🔗AdamYeah. So, well, you're going to try to have sex to try to bond, so solidify this relationship now that it's-
1:32:31🔗DrewWell, who's moving? He's moving or you're moving? And you're moving, I don't know, is it like 500 miles up the coast or how far is it?
1:32:42🔗AdamBut why would you be contemplating having sex with this guy that you're going to be away from?
1:32:46🔗CallerBecause I think that since we've been together for a long time, things have been okay with us and I figured that if I've been with him for this long and we haven't done anything, then obviously, what are the chances of us breaking up on a long distance relationship?
1:33:04🔗AdamYou're trying to stick this thing together by having sex, that's a bad plan.
1:33:08🔗CallerNo, no, not exactly, because I'm not moving till like December.
1:33:11🔗AdamIt's a bad plan. It's gonna make this whole process-
1:33:15🔗DrewYou're not gonna use sex like glue. I did stick a slipper to a bathrobe once via sex.
1:33:21🔗AdamIt's one of the many things that your poor nanny has to take care of. Your housekeeper. Yeah, stuff. So wait a second. I can break bricks with her head.
1:33:31🔗DrewQuiet down, Drew. Here's the point. You guys have decided you're gonna see each other every weekend. Neither one of you has a driver's license.
1:33:53🔗AdamIt's gonna make the whole thing that much more painful.
1:33:55🔗DrewAll right, here's the deal. You can have sex with him after he moves. The fifth time you see him. We'll see if they see him every weekend, all right?
1:34:03🔗Jeremy PivenDo you guys ever talk about things like when you lost virginity?
1:35:20🔗DrewYeah, don't forget about us. Mimi Rogers in here tomorrow night. Until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.
1:35:31🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment. Yeah.