1:05🔗VoiceoverI've been talked to by Missi Pyle. Hello, this is Loveline, 1-800-LOVE-191. I am Stryker, in for Adam Carolla, who is in where, Dr. Drew?
1:17🔗StrykerNow I can hear. Why is he in Italy? How is he in Italy? Is he working there?
1:20🔗StrykerHe went with Kimmel and those guys, and they're just having a vacation. They're all Italian, they've never seen their homeland. And it was about time. And it's his 40th birthday.
1:27🔗StrykerAh, okay, so that's a good reason. So wherever Jimmy goes, does Adam usually follow?
1:33🔗StrykerNo, I mean, seriously, they seem to go a lot, you know, if there's a race in Long Beach, they're there.
1:37🔗StrykerI was just thinking of that old movie where angels go, trouble follows. And that's, yeah, that's Adam.
1:41🔗StrykerAll right, well, I'm here, I'm gonna do my best tonight. I've had the craziest, funnest Memorial Day weekend. Missi, we're definitely gonna talk to you in a second.
1:49🔗StrykerSomeday, don't worry, Stryker shows in about 10 minutes. No, no, seriously.
2:09🔗StrykerThat's because you were gambling through the night or what?
2:11🔗StrykerYou could call it gambling at Dre's out there. Hello, Jesse DeDre's and at Light, a guy named Larry, it was unbelievable, and I hit a jackpot on a slot machine.
2:38🔗StrykerNo, not the huge wheel. It is a slot, and this sounds so wussy that I was playing a slot machine, but this Wheel of Fortune game is so god damn good.
2:46🔗DrewI get it, and I lost $400 in it, and everyone around me was winning, and I just kept putting another hundred thinking, it's gonna go, it's gonna go, but it never did.
2:56🔗StrykerHere's what happened with me. I was at the 50 cent machine. You hit like play three credits, so it's $1.50 each spin, and I was like, I was down, I was up, I was down, I was up, but the most exciting thing is, you're praying to God you get in the last row, it says spin, which means you get to spin the wheel, and all you're spinning the wheel goes doot, doot, doot, doot, and you press the button, and way above the game is the wheel is spinning, it's got like a 25, a 50, a 30, a 100, a 500, and a thousand on there.
3:27🔗StrykerHit the thousand, like people went crazy, circling the game, I was screaming, jumping for joy, I had a Red Bull vodka, that went on the floor, it was lovely.
3:36🔗DrewI was the person sitting next to you thinking, I'm gonna put a hundred dollars in and get a thousand too.
3:40🔗StrykerI wanna kill that eight hole. Yeah. No, but, not to deflate, take the winds out of your sailor, but how much of that did you actually leave with?
3:48🔗StrykerThis is the first time ever where I said, forget it, I'm done. And I didn't gamble anymore.
3:54🔗StrykerLast night I was at Studio 54, and then I went to after hours at like the Rio or something. Yeah, and then I, yeah, that's what I did. So I didn't gamble, it was good. It was really good. Anyway, so that's my story, I'm excited. I'm tired, but I'm good, but I'm on energy, and it's lovely.
4:15🔗StrykerI look beautiful, really? You look beautiful. It's a Puma jacket you're wearing, I like it. Wait, you've been in so many of my favorite movies. You were in 50 First Dates.
4:47🔗DrewEverybody always asks about Snoop Dogg. They want to know, you know, what he was like on the set, what he was doing on the set. I mean, he's a great guy.
5:32🔗DrewI didn't really work with him very much, but I met him at the premiere officially. And he told me that I was a tall, sexy woman. He did? I blushed.
6:01🔗StrykerWhat does that mean? You were also in a movie which I am dying to see because it has Vince Vaughn in it, who's probably a lovely man also, right? And Ben Stiller, Dodgeball.
7:22🔗StrykerI was wondering how common or likely it is that a doctor can misdiagnose herpes.
7:27🔗StrykerVery common. It's a very hard disorder to nail down without some doubt. Really, the only way we really know for sure that's what it was is when it comes back. That's sort of what confirms it. The only way other than that to absolutely confirm that you've got it is to grow it in a viral culture, and that's hard to do.
7:45🔗StrykerWell, what's down there that? What happened?
7:59🔗StrykerThose types of things. And her regret was that she caught herpes from her first boyfriend, even though they both lost their virginity to each other. He messed around and then she got it. And I, of course, I know that once you get it, you have it forever and I don't want to get it. And so when I asked her about this, she said that it was a misdiagnosis and that it's not something that could be an issue. But I was just wondering if that's even feasible.
8:25🔗StrykerIt's feasible. It's absolutely, listen, first of all, it's always feasible that doctors can make and make a misdiagnosis. We are not infallible. That's always feasible. It's very common with herpes. But the fact that it hasn't come back yet doesn't mean that it wouldn't come back. So you kind of have to be careful. You should be using comments anyway.
8:43🔗StrykerCan you grow out of herpes, meaning it's with you for life, but can it not reappear?
8:47🔗StrykerIt can not reappear and as time goes along, it tends to reappear less and less frequently. And so you're less and less contagious. But interestingly, when people are re-exposed to somebody new, oftentimes that causes a flare.
8:59🔗DrewReally? Well, and if you use a condom, you're pretty much not gonna catch it.
9:04🔗StrykerPretty good, pretty good. Especially somebody that's never had recurrences and the diagnosis isn't down. So that's what Michael needs to do is wear a condom.
9:11🔗StrykerNow, how come it's so confusing with either a canker sore or a fever blister?
9:15🔗StrykerAll right, those are herpes. Now, if you do not engage in oral sex when somebody's pregnant.
9:21🔗StrykerCan you get the real herpes down there from the thing?
9:23🔗StrykerIt's all the real herpes. This is the craziness about it. Ever since I've been doing Loveline, at the very beginning, that was one of the things that really troubled me was how nutty people got about herpes. We're talking about a cold sore. It just happens to not be in your mouth. Now, it has a significant issue for women because it may increase risk of cervical cancer and things. But that's...
9:39🔗StrykerWhat is the look of it when it's on the wiener down there?
9:42🔗StrykerNo, seriously, it can look like a blister. It's the classic description. I always enjoy working with you, Stryker. You ask the greatest questions.
9:56🔗StrykerHow many wieners? Usually, one. It depends, I guess. But the usual initial outbreak, the... You just got that. Oh, we've got a minute since. That initially the primary outbreak, the first outbreak is usually the most exuberant, the most intense. And it can be, it can look like large streaks or ulcerations, the classic appearance is clustered vesicles, meaning small blisters on a red base, clustering together. Kind of like...
10:26🔗StrykerBut what were you saying the first thing, a red streak?
10:29🔗StrykerThey can look like, sometimes the vesicles are very, very tiny, it just looks like a red streak. And sometimes they can break open and ulcerate. And it can be lots of different appearances.
10:38🔗DrewAnd how long does a typical outbreak last?
10:41🔗StrykerPrimary outbreak or the recurrences? The primary outbreak is a good week. And sometimes it's associated with illness. You can be really sick. In fact, when I was back taking my boards, they had a board test question that said, you know, what's the incidence of meningitis in primary outbreaks of herpetic two, herpes type two? It was around 20%. Meningitis.
11:00🔗StrykerAll right, Ryan, you there? You're 25.
11:07🔗AdamI'm trying to find out if I can do it on my own or do you have to really go to detox considering how long I've been on it?
11:12🔗StrykerRyan, I can only tell you that I personally have given up on detoxing people as an outpatient. It never, ever worked. You can get down to five tablets, 10 tablets, and magically, and you can stop for a couple weeks, even sometimes, and magically you go back without exception.
11:28🔗StrykerOf course. And you, and by the way, detoxing is the easiest part of stopping opiates. The harder part is dealing with your addiction, and that's something you need to get very intensively involved with, because if I could do the same thing as heroin, basically, as far as your brain is concerned.
12:06🔗AdamYeah, about 30 a day, I've got it down to three for the last probably eight, nine months.
12:09🔗StrykerYeah, as far as your brain is concerned, don't matter. I mean, it's good you've done this, but it's still, the disease is still very, very, very active.
13:08🔗StrykerI was dispatched to tell his armored vehicle that it was hit head on at 70 miles an hour by another vehicle. And I was standing behind the vehicle talking to the armored guard, the guard of the vehicle at the time. And I got a major head trauma out of it. Doctor's been lying to me since day one and all this and that.
13:45🔗StrykerOh, I'm sure there's no way a doctor's gonna be able to review all the rare side effects. So there's no way you would have gotten those anyway. So what happened?
13:54🔗StrykerThe doctor was out, put me on ZOWAP and I started working and I started getting down. I started calling about it.
14:03🔗StrykerDown, started getting more depressed.
14:05🔗StrykerYeah, I was getting down, getting more depressed. And I started calling the doctor. He thought I was at the point where I just wanted to get it by another car and just say, screw it.
14:15🔗StrykerSo you should have been in the hospital right then.
14:17🔗StrykerYeah. And well, the doctor told me it was all normal. It's normal. About four weeks ago, I just snapped at my wife and said some things that I shouldn't have said. And she left, took our daughter. I want to know what I could do to get her back now.
14:32🔗StrykerWell, none of this has anything to do with the medication. This says you're not getting enough treatment. You need to, you haven't seen a psychiatrist, have you?
14:39🔗StrykerYeah, well, he's not helping anyway. He's only here for the money. Yes, hold on.
14:44🔗StrykerSo far you blamed one doctor. Now you're blaming a psychiatrist.
14:48🔗StrykerI guess nobody can help you then, if everyone's in there just out for you, just to make things tough on you. You know, listen, you've got to trust some people, Alex. And I don't know if the head injury's making it difficult for you to sort of do that or.
14:59🔗StrykerYeah, I've never been in anything dramatic before.
15:03🔗StrykerWell, something is making you kind of paranoid because people really, they're just, yes, they're trying to make a living, but they're also trying to help you. And you've got to participate with them in this and go back and connect them and trust somebody to, you know, find somebody you trust and stay with it. But it sounds like you need to be in a hospital, in a psychiatric hospital, and really find something that where if you're thinking.
15:20🔗StrykerHow do you go about getting in there?
15:22🔗StrykerYou can't just walk in? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, you're in Denver. There's lots of facilities there. Just call admitting office and say, look, I'm thinking I'm hurting myself. I got violent with my wife or aggressive. Something's very, very wrong. Something's very, and I've had a head injury. And sometimes, and listen, and by the way, by psychiatric, we're not necessarily saying psychological. You have every biological reason to have dysfunction. Your brain may be a seizure disorder. We don't know what this is yet. You've had a bad injury. Are you paraplegic or anything now because of all this?
15:51🔗StrykerNo, I have a hard time remembering things and all that.
15:57🔗StrykerYeah, but your spinal cord and your guts and everything are okay? Have you been rolled over?
16:02🔗StrykerYeah, I got knee damage on my right leg. So there's just damage.
16:09🔗DrewI have a question just about antidepressants. I had read something in the paper that there are listed a bunch of antidepressants that actually have reverse effects.
16:19🔗StrykerAnytime you put a medication in your mouth, you're risking your life. That's the way it is with medication. Now, if that risk is worth 20% of people with depression, die of depression. That's much higher than the potential life-threatening risk of a medication, much higher. Same thing is true of say, like we talk about pregnancy. Pregnancy is a life-threatening condition. So you have to weigh birth control pill risks against the life-threatening condition of pregnancy. You don't want to put medicine in your mouth unless you have a condition that requires treatment. And antidepressants sometimes can go to suicidality, sometimes it can cause panic, sleep disturbances, pain, thought disturbances, you know, it can go wrong. But if you're being monitored and cared for properly, they can find things that are helpful to you. Alex got a very complex situation, needs help.
17:46🔗StrykerSo, yeah, and I was talking to my, I have a psychologist, because my mom's convinced that I'm not gay and that I have to see a psychologist. So, I was telling her about that, and she said that anal sex could possibly lead to like some sort of cancer, like colon cancer.
19:11🔗StrykerSo, I guess the bottom line is, Drew, she's not going to get cancer from using the strap-on, or having it.
19:15🔗StrykerNo, I wish I could say so. You can get all kinds of anal pathology and all kinds of problems holding you. I mean, listen, when you hit age 70, you're going to be very sorry you did this. Wishing you had. Wishing you had. That's all I'm telling you. Really? And, you know, it's tough enough to age without tearing apart the sphincters.
19:30🔗StrykerYeah, that's why I stay away from that, actually.
19:41🔗StrykerYou know, I'm 19 and when I'm masturbating, I don't have any trouble staying up at all. But when I get my girlfriend, I have a mixed problem between either premature ejaculation or, if not that, then I just can't stay up at all. And honestly, I don't know where to turn right now.
19:55🔗StrykerThose are polar opposites. Either you're too quick or you can't do it.
20:00🔗StrykerHave you thought of maybe, I don't know, masturbating before you're with her, so you're not gonna be too quick?
20:07🔗StrykerAnything we need to know about this relationship? Are you overwhelmed? Is it too, is it, you know, anxiety you're looking for some?
20:14🔗StrykerI'm kind of, I'm in school right now and it's really hard, but I really don't think that that should have anything to do with what's going on between the two of us, because we have a really good relationship besides that. And it's just, you know, she's used to having a lot more than what I'm giving her, and it's, you know, kind of putting strain on the relationship.
20:31🔗StrykerWell, tell me about that. Loveline, tell me about that. Is this she sort of on you about that? Does she make you feel bad?
20:36🔗StrykerNo, she's not on me. I think it's, I think I worry about it more than she does.
20:42🔗StrykerWell, what did you mean? You said you opened up with, she's used to a lot better than this. What do you mean? How did you come to understand that?
20:50🔗StrykerWell, she's been with a lot more guys than I have girls.
20:53🔗StrykerSee, if you get a feeling here, we're going down this path.
20:55🔗StrykerNo confidence. Well, I wouldn't worry how many-
20:57🔗StrykerShe's so experienced. She expects more than this. That's all- You're projecting all that onto her. She's just somebody who's into you and would like to have a close experience.
21:05🔗DrewAnd you're probably thinking about that the whole time.
21:07🔗StrykerOh, my God. You're completely doing yourself in with this.
21:10🔗StrykerYeah, your brain is messing you up before you even get in there, literally.
21:13🔗StrykerIs there anything that, like, besides just maybe relaxing or something, that I could do about it?
21:22🔗StrykerI think cut the BS out, Michael. I mean, you're doing something to this relationship for some reason. I don't know why you're sort of sabotaging it, but it's, you know, you're building this case. She's used to better, she's used to more. She's had lots of guys. I'm so inexperienced. Cut it out. Cut it out.
21:54🔗StrykerGet a little confidence, Michael. Give yourself a pep talk, as Missi said. And don't sell yourself short, just because she's been with probably 400 men.
22:02🔗StrykerThere's a corollary here. There's a corollary, which is why did you wait to have sex?
22:08🔗StrykerI don't know. Just the way my parents had raised me and then I went out on my own and decided that I really don't want to live like that.
22:25🔗StrykerThey raised me with a lot of the premarital sex ideals of, you know, don't do it till you're married.
22:32🔗StrykerAnd they were just, that's their values or was there some sort of religious orientation to it or what?
22:37🔗StrykerIt was religious on my mom's side. My dad's, it was just ideals. But once I moved out, I didn't feel the need to live up to their ideals and I really didn't want to.
22:48🔗StrykerThat's fine. But you clearly still have all sorts of feelings about it and you got to kind of sort that out. So yeah. And you do put it all on your girlfriend, leave her alone. Just she's happy to be there. Just enjoy. Yeah, please. All right.
23:16🔗DrewIn the parking lot? And made him wait in the parking lot.
23:18🔗StrykerHe's waiting for me right now. Fine Anderson. We're taking a break now. More Loveline after this. Hello.
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23:42🔗StrykerAll right, we are back on Loveline and Stryker, in for Adam Carolla, who is out of the country supposedly on Memorial Day. Drew, how was your weekend, by the way? Anything good?
23:54🔗StrykerNice. Took it easy. Hanging out with the kids? Of course. Had a little league and went to Universal Studios today.
24:02🔗StrykerNo, went on the Back to the Future and the Jurassic Park.
24:05🔗StrykerHow could he not go on the tram ride? That's the staple of Universal Studios.
24:08🔗StrykerYou would think that these theme parks would want to set us up since we're on the radio stuff. No, I wait in line like everybody else. So I spent eight hours in line. I went for the ride.
24:17🔗DrewThe Back to the Future is the best though.
24:19🔗StrykerYeah, it's the best. Okay, everyone just close your eyes. We're coming up on King Kong who stands in at over 30 feet tall and weighs in at 13,000 pounds, 600 of which is synthetic fur. He made his debut in the 1933 RKO production starring Faye Ray.
24:44🔗StrykerI grew up my whole life here, going there, birthday parties there, the whole nine, the Universal. And he has banana breath, King Kong, which I like.
24:52🔗DrewI remember thinking I was an actor and I'd been on the lots before auditioning. I was like, I'm not going to like the tour. And it was great. I was like a kid. I mean, it was amazing. I had the best time.
25:01🔗StrykerIt's really good. That's Missi Pyle's voice, by the way.
25:04🔗StrykerI'm going to watch this again until they set us up at those parks.
25:06🔗StrykerWe're done. All right. So how about Drew and Stryker Tram? They'll give me the script. I'll read it and I'll do it for your family. Just your family is on there. OK, we're coming up in the old western town. The doors were small for the men so they would look grander. And then we had bigger doors for the little so they would look smaller. Aha, right?
25:27🔗DrewIt's really a little bit scary how much you know.
25:31🔗StrykerI know more about Not The Tour, though, but we'll get to that. You're up for an MTV Movie Award, which is going on next Saturday, I guess.
26:05🔗StrykerI know, but I don't remember the fight.
26:07🔗DrewYou don't remember the fight in the bathroom?
26:08🔗StrykerI saw the movie like a year ago, a year and a half ago.
26:10🔗DrewYou don't remember the fight like she and I go in the bathroom and I'm sort of awful.
26:14🔗StrykerSee, I can remember the tour at Universal and now I can't remember the fight.
26:17🔗DrewI know, in every line. It's just, you know, we have this fight in the bathroom and Robert Palmer's Simply Irresistible is playing over at the top and we just beat each other. OK, I do remember now for a very long time.
26:30🔗StrykerReally? Was it hard scene? Hard scene of film was a fun?
26:32🔗DrewOh, it was so much fun. She was amazing. I think, you know, she was looking forward to it. It was at the end of the shoot. So we were both looking forward to it. And she even said to me at the end, like, you know, I'll see you at the MTV Movie Awards because we're going to get nominated.
26:59🔗StrykerMy teacher at school said that if you take Prozac, it helps you improve your memory.
27:05🔗StrykerJunior college? Well, if you're depressed, it will improve your memory. And a low serotonin level can be associated with impaired memory, probably the result of cell dropout. But it's not the case that a normal person is going to have improved memory necessarily with Prozac.
27:25🔗StrykerYou're 23 still in junior college. Hold on, let me get to that.
27:38🔗StrykerNice. So after two years, you're going to go like USC or UCLA or something? USC. Good football team.
27:46🔗StrykerSo it won't, like how about in someone older who's just a normal person?
27:52🔗StrykerYeah, in an aging population, there might be some, I've never seen any data on that, but I could see where that might make a difference because there can be low level biological changes like a depressive state that could be associated with memory issues. So yeah, that makes some sense. There's something called pseudo dementia. I think Sandy, your professor is confusing something. Pseudo dementia is a depression. When you correct, people in their 70s and 80s can look demented and it's actually a depressed state. And when you treat their depression, the dementia or the memory problems go away. Oops.
28:41🔗StrykerWell, that happens sometimes. And, usually, when kids start mucking around with their genitalia at a young age, it's because there's some chaos in the home. You start self-
28:52🔗StrykerWell, there you go. That's even worse. I mean, that's not worse. You're a genius, Drew. It's a more overt cause of sexualization of children is their sexual abuse.
28:59🔗StrykerWell, I've always been ashamed of it. I never said anything to anybody because, like, my mom caught me a couple of times and she flipped out.
29:08🔗StrykerNo, listen, you had something happen to you that changed the way your brain is wired. And I'm no doubt now your feelings about your sexuality and the feelings that emerge about sexuality are very, very different. Most people that have been sexually abused will either become hyper or hyposexual. They're very, very sexual or super shut down or fluctuating back and forth between those two states.
31:12🔗StrykerBipolar. Okay. You might talk to your doctor about Topamax. That can sometimes be a mood-stabilizer. Not a great one, but it will suppress some of the appetite-stimulating effects of Xyprexa. Amanda, 22.
31:31🔗StrykerNo, because I was standing outside. I don't want everyone to hear.
31:35🔗DrewWell, haven't they been waiting for a long time?
31:37🔗StrykerAs opposed to Chester, who was screaming to his entire family to go turn the radio on.
31:40🔗StrykerI believe he was talking about the group. Right. What's up, Amanda?
31:59🔗StrykerI was taken from my parents when I was six years old. Why? They said I had a dirty house. Like my parents kept a dirty house. Literally, that's what was it. I was living in the city of Long Beach then. I was always really, really close to my dad. When they took me, it put me in a state like now. I'm diagnosed manic depressive. I have a boyfriend. He just got out of prison in January.
32:38🔗StrykerAnd I have a 10-month-old daughter and we've been together for about four months now.
32:43🔗StrykerSo you're going to see to it that this daughter is taking away from you just the way you were taking away from her. That's what you're working on it, Amanda. That's the road you're heading down.
33:09🔗StrykerHe's off in his own world on Crystal.
33:11🔗StrykerMm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What can we do for you tonight?
33:15🔗StrykerBut I was, like, my question being, he has a lot of the same characteristics as my father. And, like, my mom, she just, like, she's opened up more about, like, my father's past, like, before they even, like, got married and stuff. Mm-hmm. And, because she was realizing the, you know, the similarities, there we go, sorry about that, the similarities. And I was, like, I'm wondering, am I leaning more towards his love or this relationship because I'm looking, like, for my dad?
33:52🔗StrykerWell, but, Amanda, most people do some version of that. They either explicitly or at least implicitly find somebody that fits with who they are. And who we are is very much built by our primary relationships. And so it's natural that, you know, we sort of fit together with people to remind us of our primary caretakers. And for women, more so than not, it is the dad. And if the dad was a traumatizing relationship, then it becomes a quest. Strangely enough, I don't know why we're wired that way, but if you have a traumatic relationship with your dad, he's abandoning, abusive, or unavailable in ways you needed him, man, that's the kind of guy you're going to look for. That's who you look for, and of course, when you find that kind of guy again, you're going to relive the same thing all over again.
34:32🔗DrewIs it because it's just comfortable? It's what you know?
34:35🔗StrykerIt's much, much more than that. Much more. It's who you are. You are a person that fits with that. And those things that are traumatizing in childhood are converted to attraction in adolescence. It's amazing. All right, let's set up that way.
34:47🔗StrykerLet's grab one real quick, and then we got to get some of these calls, everything, medical, medical. We need the wiener falling off questions. John, what's up? You're 26.
34:58🔗StrykerFirst of all, I got to tell Drew, I loved your book.
35:02🔗StrykerYou guys helped me graduate from college with the bachelors. And so my question is, I've been using probably about 30 to 40 Norcos a day for quite a while, the yellow ones with the less aspirin.
35:16🔗StrykerAnd I know that's not the thing to do, but I hate 12-step. I've been there for, you know, court and for other incidences, and I was just curious if you had any possible alternatives that are realistic that could, you know, help me kick it.
35:29🔗StrykerThere's SOS, starting over sober, and there are sort of, I'm blanking on the name of this other group. There are a couple other groups around that are non-12-step based. They basically take you through the same thing. Look, all 12-step is, is you having a relationship. That's all it is. It's you being trusting of other people, sitting down with a person, your sponsor, and rebuilding relationships with that person in the context of understanding that you don't need to control everything. That's where the whole higher power thing comes from. You got to give it up, give up the control, trust that things will be okay, and then establish that relationship and dig into your feelings in a structured way. That is all really 12-step is. And they're very rational recovery. That's the other group. So SOS, rational recovery. And, but these all are basically, if you don't have a very, very intimate relationship, you're not going to rewire the brain the way you need to, to deal with this disease, period. Now you can become chronically ill. You can say, and this is a lot of people that advocate this that say, well, you know, the recidivism, the success rate is so low with coming up drugs like Norco. Let's just put them on methadone and call it a life. And you can do that. You can, some people would say that'd be the way to do it. I personally think that's a onerous way to go.
36:46🔗StrykerYeah, I would like to get away as clean as I can, but what's the fundamental difference in the framework compared to the 12-step with the other?
36:54🔗StrykerThey will say that what's different is that there is no spiritual component. But I got to tell you that, and I don't really fully understand what that spiritual element is, and I think it's different for each person, but every person I've ever met who actually had sustained recovery described whatever they consider to be their spiritual element, that's the most important part of their recovery. Carl Jung felt the same way.
37:15🔗StrykerThat's your favorite question of the night, recovery.
37:17🔗StrykerBecause you're the specialist. All right, we're going to take a break. Missi Pyle is here, Soul Plane, Dodgeball, MTV Movie Awards, and we're going to actually you and I will get words in in a minute. All right, we're back here on Loveline. Happy Memorial Day Weekend, everyone. I'm Stryker, in for Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew, and Missi Pyle is here, who is getting up in about five hours to go do more work for Dodgeball. Are you a morning person, or do you like to go to bed late, wake up late?
38:03🔗DrewI wake up every morning with the crack of dawn. No, I am.
38:25🔗StrykerDr. Drew and I just had a meeting. I'm a new man. Oh my goodness. What are you gonna wear to the award show, by the way? I wanna act like Joan Rivers. Have you picked out a costume yet for the MTV Movie Awards?
38:35🔗DrewI have not yet. I am working on that with a friend of mine. Right.
38:51🔗StrykerAre you gonna wrestle? Are you gonna make out like she did with Adrienne Brody?
38:54🔗DrewI have, yes and yes. Yeah. And I have been writing my acceptance speech as every good actor does since I was about six. Of course. So, I'm very excited. It's funny because I think realistically, getting an Academy Award or an Emmy, which you kind of have that speech in the back of your head at some point. So when I got nominated for this award, I was kind of like, it's almost as good.
39:15🔗StrykerIt is. You know, it's kind of better because it's more like, it's not the, it's such the non-stuck up crowd that is voting for it and choosing what's great. And I actually don't think the Academy Awards have a category for best fight on screen. Do they?
39:40🔗StrykerHi, I have this problem, okay, I was dating this guy, and I dated him off and on for like six to eight months, and we broke up a little over a month ago, and now he's dating my best friend.
40:06🔗StrykerNo. What's that? As soon as I found out what was going on, I was like, you know what, screw you.
40:13🔗StrykerWell, that's not necessarily a bad position to take. She's kind of showing herself to not really care much about your feelings.
40:20🔗StrykerYeah, but what hurts the most about it is that I've known this girl since like I was three. So we've known each other for like 17 years.
40:27🔗StrykerYeah. That doesn't mean that she's not who she seems to be. It's the fact that you've known her all that time, doesn't, I'm sure it's tough now to come to terms with who she's become. You know, you've sort of become, when you grow up with somebody, you have your own sort of sense of who they are and that may not be real.
40:41🔗DrewThe older I get, you know, the more I look at, you choose your friends as you get older and you change. And from three to 19, you're a totally different person.
40:50🔗StrykerIt's true that you share something unique when you grow up with somebody and that you'll always be bonded by that unique experience together. But the reality is the reason she was your best friend because she sat across from you in kindergarten.
41:04🔗StrykerShe just was somebody who was there. And in real life, now that you're an adult, you would not, probably not choose, well, certainly now would not choose her as a best friend.
41:11🔗StrykerSo now do you want to ask them, stop dating? Do you want to tell them to stop?
41:17🔗StrykerIn a way, yes. But in a way, I just, I'm not sure.
41:21🔗StrykerWhy don't you just say, F it, move on. She's not your best friend. She's dating the guy you were dating.
41:27🔗StrykerYou should count your blessings that both these people are out of your life now. It's painful when people are something different than you thought they were because you care about them very much, but this is who they are. Move on. Good job.
41:46🔗StrykerHi, I'm actually having sex with my ex-boyfriend again. And I'm in the relationship right now. And I don't know whether to tell them or...
42:01🔗StrykerTell your boy, your current boyfriend?
42:20🔗StrykerBecause my ex-boyfriend has a girlfriend too and we just keep coming back to each other. And I don't know whether...
42:26🔗DrewWell, I think maybe you should think about that. Like if you keep coming back, then maybe you're supposed to be with that person or...
42:34🔗StrykerHere's what keeps coming back means. It's just she offers himself to him and he's of course an idiot and he's an ass and takes her up on it.
42:40🔗DrewIs that what happens? Is that what you do?
42:43🔗StrykerI mean, we just, we see each other and when we see each other, it's like... It's like we get this vibe that we wanna be with each other and we do get with each other.
42:54🔗StrykerWe'll go on a Burger King and then we're gonna go have sex.
42:56🔗StrykerThe vibe is that guy will have sex with you if you let him. That's the vibe.
43:01🔗StrykerCause he's an 18 year old guy probably, or 19, 20, right? And well, no, just a guy in general would do it. I can vouch for that.
43:07🔗StrykerWell, he was certainly 19 year old, well. Who knows what he's thinking?
43:11🔗StrykerWell, what should I do with my current boyfriend?
43:13🔗StrykerWell, I think you're not being fair to him. You may wanna end that just cause it doesn't seem to mean that much to you. And then whatever you do with your ex-boyfriend, I'm sure this guy is a colossal idiot. But if you wanna stick around with that guy, that's fine. Whatever it is, the scarier, less available, more chaotic guy is the one you want, right?
43:33🔗StrykerWell, not really, but I mean, I think I'm at a phase where I'm like, my bad boy phase.
43:39🔗StrykerYeah, well, guess what, enjoy it because you're gonna go, Missi, help her out with that. How can she shorten that phase?
43:48🔗DrewDon't go out with that guy anymore. I mean, you know, it's one of those things where you, I think you just want to do something that isn't, you know it's not good, it's like drinking too much. It's like anything that you do because you, you know.
44:03🔗StrykerWell, I guess it's because he lasts longer. I don't know whether.
44:06🔗StrykerOh yeah, that's the whole reason. The sex is better. The sex is better.
44:10🔗StrykerIs the sex better or he lasts longer?
44:12🔗StrykerThe sex is better because he's a bad guy. That's why it's better. So you're experiencing it psychologically more completely. Even you can connect with parts of yourself that you think are bad, too.
44:20🔗DrewI think, yeah, I also think like there's a guy that you sort of want to go out with because he feels like the right person. He feels good for you. And then there's the guy that you really want, which is the one who's generally not good for you and who, you know, you're more yourself around, but you always want to be something better than you are.
44:40🔗StrykerAll right, Lucy, we're going in circles now. Just try to be fair to the current boyfriend. And if you dump them, go start.
44:48🔗StrykerI want to explore that a little more. But that, why can't you be yourself around a guy, including some things unsavory about yourself, around a guy that's not a despicable, I want to use a bad word, despicable guy. Why do you have to have, you're interested with a despicable guy in order to be bad with a despicable guy?
45:08🔗DrewWell, I just think that a lot of people, women in particular, you know, you have certain things about yourself that you don't like. That's who you are, but you want, you know, when you meet somebody for the first time, when you're in a new relationship, you show that person what you want them to see.
45:37🔗StrykerAnd never really show their complete, who they completely, who they are to the guy that's available for a relationship.
45:43🔗DrewI'm not entirely sure why that is, I mean, I think that there's, that the guy that you feel is bad for you is someone that you sort of associate with yourself. Like the low self-esteem that you may have or just certain things that you don't like about yourself. So you associate and you're more comfortable with that person, it's sort of like, and then you see someone that you sort of aspire to be with, someone who's better than that. And for some reason, I think a lot of women don't allow themselves to be totally honest with those people. And I'm not entirely sure why that is.
46:18🔗StrykerStryker, correct me if I'm wrong, but those guys that somebody like Missi would aspire to be, would be happy with all aspects. You know what I mean? You don't think so?
48:02🔗StrykerYou're lying, and I'm afraid, I'm afraid now, because now I know I have to supply a nice house, and the woman has to keep the nice house from what we set off the air.
48:12🔗StrykerYeah, I sat here and listened like a ping pong match back and forth, and I was like, I don't know, I think I'm too tunnel vision with my little group.
48:50🔗StrykerWe are? Where are we going? By the way, that's Missi Pyle. She's here, she's on a lot of movies. She hangs out with cool people. She likes coffee. She has a black jacket on, blonde hair, soul plane, dodge ball, a true underdog story. What's that? I want to describe who I'm sitting next to, two feet away. This is very nice. Okay, that's a good movie too. Justin.
49:18🔗StrykerDr. Drew, you're a man of extreme passion and been a long time listener and I'm really excited to be on the air with you guys.
49:25🔗StrykerFantastic. Adam's not here tonight, it's Stryker and Fred.
49:27🔗StrykerYeah, I know that. I mean, Stryker, you're cool too.
49:30🔗StrykerYeah, I'm not that cool. But because of the Loveline show, because I work right next door to the studio, I got to be on the Sharon Osbourne show, who was your guest. She met me and then we went on.
49:40🔗StrykerWhich was good. Anyway, Justin, go ahead and ask Dr. Drew about his passion.
49:44🔗StrykerYeah, my question is, I've been dating this girl for like two and a half months and tonight was the second time that we've tried to have sex and it's like, she's really tight and I just can't get it in her. And I was like wondering if there was anything I could do to like help that.
50:50🔗StrykerYeah, so that's not an uncommon thing. You gotta kind of... There actually are ways of treating this, so people have it chronically, where they have to have graduated cylinders and things like that. It's a Kama Sutra. No. No, it's acrylic cylinders.
51:03🔗StrykerThat's right, yeah. And in the meantime, just take it slow and easy, whether you're very patient, this thing is probably something that...
51:08🔗StrykerSeriously, but there is the best product ever that I would like to endorse, and I'm serious, and I think you should go get it. You can get it at any Walmart, not Walmart, but the Long's Drugs, Astroglide. Astroglide. It is so good, and it washes off with water, no soap. You're done, and it's the best. Astroglide. Yes, Astroglide. Slippery when wet.
51:25🔗StrykerMaria 25. We're too enthusiastic and endorsement there, Stryker.
51:53🔗StrykerSounds spurious, yeah. Well, why doesn't he have his sleep disorder treated?
51:58🔗I, that's the same thing because he believes, I'm sure he's listening to you right now, so hopefully you will be able to tell him, Dr. Drew, that he needs to go to a clinic and-
52:07🔗StrykerDoes he snore real loud or something? What's the problem?
52:27🔗No, actually, no. No, he's not. He was perfectly great in the back in 98 when I met him, actually in 97. And all of a sudden, he just changed. He believed he cured himself from schizophrenia, which I don't think that he never had. He had a nervous breakdown, according to him, and he never went to a clinic.
52:46🔗StrykerUh-oh, is he doing drugs? Is he doing drugs?
52:53🔗StrykerExcept for his schizophrenia and sleep disorder and fatigue.
52:56🔗StrykerYeah, Maria, there's much missing in this story. Fatigue is a very sort of non-specific symptom. It doesn't necessarily mean a sleep disorder. Some of you, it's not a way that doesn't snore, that doesn't have a restless leg, it doesn't have night terrors, that sort of thing. It's hard to make a case for a sleep disorder, and yet he has this strange mental status change at one time, and he thought he was schizophrenic, but never was evaluated. I mean, for God's sakes, he could have a brain tumor, for all we know here, could be a seizure disorder, could be a thousand different things. He needs to go be evaluated medically at a clinic, first and foremost. Secondly, none of this has anything to do with marrying or not marrying, except that he may not be of his right mind.
53:37🔗StrykerAre you still there, Maria? Now, if you've been going out with them this long, you probably sleep in the same bed every night right now, don't you?
53:44🔗No. Actually, I live in Fresno and he lives in Los Angeles and it's just something... I see him every other weekend or every weekend and he doesn't sleep great. I see him moving around, but it's just something... I mean, everything is great except for the sleeping thing and he doesn't think that he will be able to concentrate really on me because of that.
54:08🔗StrykerWell, that's... Let's put it this way. That is total, absolute, categorical BS. And whatever is going on with him, it's not that. But something is up with him. And again, restlessness at night, if it's leg restlessness, limb restlessness, that's easily treated. But I'm not sure that's what...
54:23🔗StrykerLet's go to Kelly. 16. What's up, Kelly?
54:30🔗StrykerI heard another girl, she said she started masturbating when she was six and I was nine. And I was actually with another guy while I was doing it, like, we do it together.
55:12🔗StrykerBut there was sexual touching? Yeah, that's a form of sex and that's kind of traumatic for young child. To be sexualized at a young age can change your trajectory of development. And in your case, it's making you...
55:25🔗StrykerAnd basically, you're either going to go one way, crazy sex, dildo sex, or just not do anything.
55:31🔗StrykerOr go back and forth. That's why we call it bipolar condition, right? So what's the question?
55:36🔗StrykerSo, I was wondering how old you have to be to buy a dildo at 16?
55:40🔗StrykerActually, you have to be 18 and they sell them over at 5283 Venice Boulevard.
55:51🔗StrykerOr just like when I was 16, I would go to the 7-Eleven and I would have people buy me beer. Maybe you can do that in front of the sex stores.
56:41🔗DrewThey have a nice grassroots dildo store.
56:44🔗StrykerIt's probably made out of hemp. All right, Wendy, you're 20.
56:48🔗StrykerHey, my question is, my parents were never around when I was growing up. My sisters and my brothers raised me, and my dad's ill now, and my mom lives in Georgia. She called me every once in a while wanting to talk, I guess wanting to become closer to me, and I don't care about them. I do VR on my parents, and I love them for that, but there isn't a genuine caring. I want to be part of their lives. I want them to be around things like that, and I feel bad for it, but I don't. And I feel really selfish for that, but how could I? They weren't around, so it's just, I know it's like, you know, I don't think you're right.
57:33🔗StrykerYeah, first of all, you're feeling selfish. I think you're entitled to that, given that nothing can be more selfish than parents who aren't able to give of themselves in such a way as to raise their child, their basic obligation in life. They fail. You have every right to feel, to be a little selfish as it pertains to them, and you have every right not to trust their availability and trust the relationship, because unless they've had a lot of treatment or changed them in a dramatic way, they're not likely to be people that you should be trusting.
58:00🔗StrykerThey don't even like think, I mean, they don't even apologize for it. They just think it's like, well, it was a circumstance and this happened and that happened, but I'm like, okay.
58:11🔗StrykerThey were a lot less substantial people than yourself. They couldn't live up to their basic lives responsibilities. They're not, they're not who you want them to be. They're not who they should have been.
58:24🔗StrykerThat's never going to change. That is imprinted in you. Now, the people who they were is stuck in your head. Now, if you want to try to have a relationship as an adult with people that are sort of in your family, but don't really deserve much more from you than they gave you.
58:39🔗StrykerWhy are they trying to do this now, Wendy?
58:40🔗StrykerWell, my dad's sick. He's like, he has like some arthritis problem or something. And he almost passed like a few months ago and I just, I don't know, like my siblings like asked me for help, like to help my dad out and like, like he doesn't work. He's disabled. To help out money-wise and I'm like 20 trying to make it on my own here and I, like, I get like angry. Like how could they expect that from me?
59:06🔗StrykerLike, but I think it's a healthy, it's a healthy response. Now, if you also want to help out, that's fine. But to be angry for the outrageousness that they would.
59:14🔗DrewWe'll say they're coming back now for money.
59:18🔗StrykerThey're like all well, doing good. I mean, everyone struggles, but like for the most part, they're doing good. They have families now and I'm like trying to like get a career going here, like trying to just like separate myself and be my own person, you know, and it's just like, I'm like stuck. Like I know what I want, but then I, I mean, I have feelings. I'm not a bad person, but I feel bad for it. And also.
59:40🔗StrykerFeel bad for what? Exactly what? What do you feel bad for?
59:47🔗StrykerNo, you've got, you've got to decide, determine, you know, what is, and is not right and wrong for you. And if it's important to you to, in terms of feeling good about yourself, as I doubt it, that you have to contribute in some way, then do, but there's no sort of.
1:00:01🔗DrewYou get to make your own decisions now. I mean, you're an adult. You don't have to.
1:00:04🔗StrykerThank God you're as good as you are.
1:00:07🔗StrykerThank you. I hear that from people and I'm just like, sometimes I'm like, well, it's just how it happened. But thanks. I appreciate it. And also, it's hard for me to like have relationships with people.
1:00:26🔗StrykerThat's the part you've got to overcome. It's important to be a healthy, happy person in life. It's important to have close relationships. Work and relationships, work and love are the key. You need both. It sounds like you got the work part, you're getting together, but you need to be able to have the relationship part. It's going to be tough to be available, to trust people, to follow through, but you're going to have to take yourself by the hand and just do that. Just get in some relationship with people you think you can trust, but be careful. You're going to be kind of attracted to people that are abandoning and not available. Go for the guys that are not so exciting and attractive to you.
1:00:59🔗DrewThat's what we were talking about before. You're going for someone who's not exciting.
1:01:05🔗StrykerYou can go for somebody that's attractive but not exciting, not super attracted to. You can do that. Listen, a friend of mine, a psychiatrist once said, he goes, look, you can have a chaotic, rich, exciting relationship and live miserably or you can have a quiet life with somebody that's not quite as exciting and be happy.
1:01:22🔗StrykerNow what if you're chaotic? Do you go after a chaotic person?
1:01:30🔗StrykerMeaning, say my dad was ridiculously crazy, possibly alcoholic. He's not, by the way, if you're listening, dad, I know you're not. I may go for somebody like that as a, right. Now, but if he's a normal guy and say I'm super chaotic, what am I going to go after? What am I going to seek out, do you think?
1:01:48🔗StrykerYou're going to seek out something similar to what your relationships were like, whatever traumatized you that, now if you're, if you are, if you weren't traumatized, then you might have a broader range of experiences and choices. Anthony. Where's Anthony?
1:02:00🔗StrykerNumber one, you're 20 on Loveline. What's up, man?
1:02:07🔗AdamYeah. Well, lately, I can last like a year. I've been downloading like a bunch of like cartoon porn, not just like American cartoon porn. I'm like Japanese anime, donjon, mangas, everything. My friends kind of clowned me about it, like way, way too much.
1:02:31🔗StrykerThis is stuff that you're seeing online?
1:03:00🔗StrykerWhatever. It's still the same thing. It's somebody who's has a crack pipe in their office basically. And you know, this is a growing problem, Anthony. Were you sexually abused as a child? No. Physically abused? What was that?
1:03:16🔗AdamI don't know if this has been noted, but I did like, I have, I did start like, such reactive early.
1:03:27🔗StrykerOkay. That's sexual abuse, Anthony.
1:03:30🔗AdamWell, like, within my own age, though.
1:03:32🔗StrykerThat's sexual abuse. That's child, unchild, sexual abuse. And whoever the child was that did that with you was sexually abused by an adult. That's what sexualizes them and makes them interested in every sex with people their own age. It's not a normal impulse for a kid that age. So sexual abuse history with any kind of addictive biological genetic background is a recipe for sexual addiction. I heard Bill Clinton's going to come out with his book next week and talk about his sexual addiction. Really? Much to my amazement. He's finally going to come out with it.
1:04:01🔗StrykerYou had said so long ago, right? You said that you thought he was a sex addict.
1:04:12🔗StrykerHe was horrible. His mom was a morphine addict. He had a horrible, traumatic childhood. His father beat the crap out of them. The step dads were abused. He was having to get between the mom and the step dads. Horribly traumatizing.
1:04:23🔗StrykerSo there's a great chance Anthony could be president.
1:04:27🔗StrykerThat's right. We seem to have a penchant for that right now.
1:04:29🔗DrewCan we talk for just one second about that Japanese anime that is so violent towards women?
1:04:38🔗DrewI was at a bar in New York and they were just flashing it on the wall and I just couldn't believe it. I mean, there's these women having sex and then them like cutting the women. I mean, it's just horrible.
1:04:48🔗StrykerI think Kill Bill is sort of a version of that, I think.
1:04:55🔗DrewPart one, I've not seen any anime, but what you're describing is so much more sexual and it really is really disturbing. And it was just an abnormal bar and it was just playing on the wall and I just couldn't believe it. You'll have to see it. I mean, it's...
1:05:13🔗StrykerWell, Anthony, go to Florida and hang out with them. Drew, what should Anthony do then to keep this porn from...
1:05:20🔗StrykerBuddy, I think all of this ultimately is a bid for what we call affect regulation. I've tried to regulate your feeling states that you can't regulate because of what happened to you. It's sort of affected the trajectory of your evolution as an emotional person. And there are therapists that specialize in this. There's SA, sexual addiction treatment. Twelve Step is useful for this. But you might want to look into people that I don't know of any names or facilities right off hand that are in Florida. I know there's many around that treat specifically with sexual addiction. Online sexual addiction is considered to be one of the fastest growing disorders right now in this country. Something like 300,000 new cases a year or something like that.
1:05:57🔗StrykerI don't think, I mean I've seen pictures on the internet, but I never even owned a computer. So I wouldn't even know how to find the movies, to be honest, seriously. But I got a nice collection on DVD, which is fun.
1:06:41🔗StrykerSo why would you even want to jump in as soon as you get pregnant? Because you're pregnant. What's going on? What happened to you when you were a kid?
1:07:01🔗StrykerHow old were you? That's pedophile night.
1:07:09🔗StrykerWell, Lauren, that's why you're even contemplating this. Please contain that part of yourself that creates these impulses. It's just... I'd say one of the things that being a victim at seven does is set you up to be a victim in teenager years. Someone who has been... who is raped in their teens very frequently has a sexual abuse history in childhood. It indoctrinates into that freeze response, and so victimizers know you're a good target for them. Put this away. Go get some treatment, Lauren. Do something with this because it's a horrible impulse.
1:07:45🔗StrykerYeah, Stryker. Astro Glide seems to be Stryker's solution for any and all ill. But be that as it may, no, it's no simple solution. These are very, very difficult problems to treat. She needs to...
1:07:58🔗StrykerJust draw yourself on the mercy of local mental health services. There are groups available. You can go to... again, it's so difficult to find. We have a nation right now that is so woefully... Their needs are so woefully taken care of.
1:08:12🔗StrykerJust think, why would you want the first time to be anal?
1:08:16🔗StrykerBecause the first time was when she was 7. And it etched something into her brain that she can't get out. And it's very sad. And she's got now an impulse. She doesn't... She has no boundaries against these things.
1:08:27🔗DrewAs a woman, I can say you definitely don't want the first time to be anal.
1:08:41🔗StrykerWe can get into it in four minutes.
1:08:43🔗StrykerLauren, maybe if you have any counselors at school or you have a doctor, talk to them about your abuse and about what your impulses are now. And see if you can get... There's one thing, I'll tell you something we never talk about in this show, but that people can often... About half the kids that come out of horrible situations in childhood turn out okay. And they can have relationships and get stable jobs and not have mental health problems. And they have found in that population what seems to create that flexibility is a single positive relationship outside of the home with an adult sustained over time, meaning for years as you grow up. So find that relationship with a girl. Nobody you're attracted to. Somebody you find boring, but somebody who cares about you and appreciates what you've been through.
1:09:21🔗StrykerI think that should be your next movie script. We're going to take a break. Missi Pyle is here and more Loveline after this.
1:09:36🔗StrykerHey Adam, you know how guys have trouble with confidence?
1:09:43🔗StrykerThat's what you're listening to. I'm Stryker, in for Adam and Dr. Drew is here and Missi Pyle is here also. She's been in a bunch of movies. I just found out or read, I did read. You do stand up.
1:10:24🔗StrykerHow do you like the stand up world?
1:10:26🔗DrewI don't do a lot of it. It's funny, it was just something that really scared me and I just thought, oh, I've always wanted to try this and so I actually took a class. But it was really fun and...
1:10:39🔗StrykerStand up class. What did they teach you?
1:10:42🔗DrewThey basically just taught you, you know, it had always been sort of an enigma to me, like how you get on stage and it was just breaking it down into, you know, what's... She had these five catch words, like what's weird, what's hard, what's scary, what's stupid about whatever and to make it really personal to your life and then you can go away from that once you can get your own set. You could take the class too.
1:12:14🔗StrykerOh, there's no problem. We've been dating a year and a half and well, he wants to have sex all the time. Well, I do. We both do, but he gets tired.
1:12:58🔗StrykerWhat are you looking for? What is it that he needs to do for you?
1:13:01🔗StrykerOh, just, I wish it would go on and on.
1:13:05🔗StrykerWhat about the oral department? After he's done, if he can't get it up or if he doesn't want to go again, you could be satisfied if he's good down there. Would that satisfy you?
1:13:15🔗StrykerYeah, but sometimes he doesn't want to do that either.
1:13:19🔗StrykerNow that's bad. Now that's bad on him. Getting tired is one thing.
1:13:23🔗StrykerNow, either he's sort of an idiot and is just unwell to kind of...
1:13:26🔗StrykerWell, he'll want to do it, but then like only once and then it's like, whatever.
1:13:31🔗StrykerOr Jenny is again a sexual abuse survivor and she's now very compulsive sexually and cannot be satisfied. It is the night. So which is it, Jenny? Which is it?
1:13:45🔗StrykerWhich is it? One or the other? Listen, he is not willing to sort of give you what you need and he's sort of a lazy idiot or you were sexually abused and you're sexual compulsive and you can't be satisfied. Which is it?
1:14:00🔗StrykerI wasn't sexually abused really, but it wasn't like without clothes. I was really young. I had to be like maybe...
1:14:27🔗StrykerOkay. Well, that's a disorder. That's a problem. So it really isn't his problem. It's that you are sexually compulsive and you can't be satisfied. And that's a problem.
1:14:35🔗DrewSo the lady wants to have more than one. That's a problem.
1:14:38🔗StrykerNot more than one. This is like... It just can't be. She doesn't want to go to school. She wants to just have sex constantly. And let's ask her if that's in fact the case. So Jenny. You could basically go all day with him as far as you're concerned. Never stop. Never stop.
1:15:00🔗StrykerMaybe once a month, everyone needs something like that.
1:15:04🔗StrykerJenny's got a disorder and she may be bipolar too. There can be bipolarity. It can be part of that. But this is not about him. This is about Jenny, unfortunately. He probably, he probably literally does try to keep up and literally tires out after a few hours.
1:15:15🔗StrykerBut if you are a guy that either, maybe you go 20 minutes the first time and you need an hour to get, you know, your part working again, the oral thing, man, girls, some of them even like that better from what, from the noises they make from when I do it.
1:16:01🔗StrykerHi, yeah, okay, my question is, I've got a couple of dark hairs on my breath. And I heard someone say that that can be related to ovarian cancer or like...
1:16:18🔗StrykerNo, no, no, no... Heresotism, hair all over your body in a male distribution can be associated with androgen producing ovarian tumors. Not a couple of stray hairs here and there. Everybody has stray hairs here and there.
1:18:17🔗StrykerYes, most will not have it during sex. They will have it only with oral sex. And a significant majority won't have any orgasms either way until they're about 22. And so, the biology doesn't really come online until late in adolescence. And even then, it's not with intercourse. Although about 10% will have multiple orgasms and just have two sit-ups and have orgasms.
1:18:38🔗StrykerI was with somebody, and explain this to me, who couldn't have it in oral but had it in sex.
1:18:42🔗StrykerRight, that's the multiple type. And she probably had more than one.
1:19:07🔗StrykerI'm 19, and I'm like really, really horny, and I don't have like any history of any like sexual abuse or anything.
1:19:19🔗StrykerI'm really horny. Are you acting on it? And with one person or multiple people? One person. And is he able to keep up with you? Then that's good. That's a good thing. See how different that is? Then somebody who's saying, I can never be satisfied. My boyfriend can't keep up, or he's complaining. Or somebody who has multiple partners and can never seem to have a relationship.
1:19:50🔗StrykerBecause you're 19. That's a good thing. It's a healthy thing. It means you're alive and you're normal. The abnormal part comes in when you can't be satisfied, you can't have relationships, and you have a history of trauma. That's where it comes from.
1:20:03🔗DrewBut I ask myself, why can't I always be horny?
1:20:55🔗StrykerYou're fine with it. So you like it all different ways. But Nikki's one of these people that have multiple like over and over and over again. They don't have refractory phases.
1:21:02🔗StrykerWhat about sex orgasm in some girls can only have it in certain positions?
1:21:07🔗StrykerHave orgasm certain positions. They have to kind of figure that out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a normal thing.
1:21:10🔗DrewYou know, that's the whole thing about like, you know, let's, you know, let's have sex in the bathroom. Let's, you know, I mean, for a woman, it's like nothing would be less comfortable. I mean, you really it's like the bed is where you.
1:21:24🔗StrykerPlus women have a thing about germs too.
1:21:27🔗StrykerShe didn't say it necessarily public bathroom at the Dodger Stadium.
1:21:30🔗StrykerNo, I'm just saying women are very tuned into. I really think that's an evolutionary thing too. It's like they had to keep everybody from getting sick. And so you're very tuned into that stuff.
1:21:38🔗StrykerBut there are some counters in bathrooms that are perfect height, I would assume.
1:21:42🔗StrykerYou go ahead and try to persuade your girlfriend, Stryker. Go ahead, it's fine.
1:22:27🔗StrykerMissi Pyle is here. We'll talk to her some more and talk to some of you guys calling in to the show, Love Line, after this. Look, with all my other boyfriends, I've only given them hand jobs. Thanks . We're back here on Loveline. About 15 minutes left with Dr. Drew. I'm Stryker, and Missi Pyle is here. And if you want to see Soul Plane, you saw Missi in the movie. What role do you play in Soul Plane?
1:23:19🔗DrewNo, I'm not. I'm the White, like Tom Arnold and I have gone with his two children, so there isn't his daughter, Ariel Cabello, who's very good in the movie as well, is the other White Lady in the movie. But we've gone to Crackerland on vacation. And it's a raunchy movie. It's raunchy. I say some raunchy things. It was a lot of fun. Actually did a talk show and they couldn't show the clip because the MP rating people wouldn't. But it's just dialogue.
1:23:53🔗StrykerAnd then June 18th, you got the dodgeball movie opening up. Which is looks, I mean, everyone's going to go see, you know, everyone's going to see that thing.
1:24:01🔗DrewIt's a really awesome story. And I play a sort of a Russian dodgeball champion. I have these giant buns on either side of my head and a unibrow. I wear a unibrow and fake teeth and a mole and a fake butt.
1:24:52🔗StrykerI don't know. I just, it's like I get these urges, like.
1:24:56🔗StrykerWell, the urges are normal and the part of sort of growing up is learning to contain these and focus these urges.
1:25:03🔗StrykerI'll be like at home, like in the living room with like my mom there. And then I'll be like, oh my gosh, it's like you'll see a commercial and it's like, oh my gosh, I want to do that. Then you come upstairs and then, you know, you start to do stuff to yourself.
1:25:20🔗StrykerThat's a good strategy. Do stuff to yourself and don't do something to anybody else. Wait a couple of years, right?
1:26:09🔗StrykerHi. I have a question about kind of a lot of stuff, but basically my main question is, like, I always have this kind of thing where me and my best friend, we really want to leave and go to California because it really sucks here and for some reason it just, like, the situation is like we really want to leave.
1:26:34🔗StrykerWe all want to come to Seattle, so maybe we can do it.
1:26:36🔗StrykerWell, Meg, I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen if you move here. You're going to get to LA. They will actually hand you a TV show. All right? You will be with the best agency. Then a teen magazine is going to put you on the cover.
1:26:49🔗StrykerAnd then you'll probably go on a date with Justin Timberlake. Then you'll be on the cover of The Inquirer. And then you're going to have your coke problem.
1:27:00🔗StrykerAnd then you're going to be pushed aside and get more C-rolls. But then your big comeback will happen in a couple of years. And you're probably going to get cast with De Niro.
1:27:07🔗StrykerWell, we don't want to tell them the rest.
1:27:09🔗StrykerAnd the rest. So, yeah. Meg, I don't know if you want to do it. You're only 15.
1:27:13🔗StrykerThat's not even what I want to do, actually.
1:27:17🔗StrykerHere's the deal. Meg, there's only one reason that young people leave their family. And that is there's some sort of horrible chaos or abuse in the home. So, if there's not that, first of all, if there is that, call Child Protective Services. If there's not that, hang out until you can get into a college and go away to a good school.
1:27:33🔗StrykerI actually am in college. That's the thing. I dropped out of high school and I'm in college right now.
1:27:40🔗StrykerIt's a community college, but I'm 15, so I think it counts for something.
1:27:48🔗DrewHow did you drop out of high school and get into college?
1:27:50🔗StrykerWell, it's like how they have that running start thing where you can, you know, like have half high school and half college, except the high school thing wasn't working for me because they're trying to do this renovation thing and trying to make it all better, but it was kind of crappy.
1:28:08🔗StrykerWell, I don't know, because like I really know I need to finish the college thing, but it's like I want to just try something else, like I really, I know it's kind of a dumb thing, but I want to be in a band or something, but I don't know.
1:28:20🔗StrykerCapital Records is out here on Vine. It's the big round thing in that new movie. It gets blown up.
1:28:26🔗StrykerYeah. Finish your school when you're 18 and you have some money. As Drew said, then get the hell out and do your thing.
1:28:35🔗StrykerBut sometimes I think the real problem I think is that I don't know if I can wait that long. Like I've had problems like I'm diagnosed with depression and a lot of problems. And I'm really scared that I'm not going to be able to like wait that long.
1:28:50🔗StrykerBut like I'm going to like doing a geographic, making a major change in where you live is not considered a state, a good thing to do with those sorts of problems.
1:29:02🔗StrykerMy mom says that even if I leave, I'll still have myself with me.
1:29:08🔗StrykerWell, not only have yourself with you, you won't have anything else. You won't have your usual resources. And that's what really leads people into big, serious problems. So stay where you are, stay put, finish school, get, you know, get some stuff. Once you have got some therapy under your belt, feel whole and complete, and don't have the urge to solve your problems by making a geographic change, that's when you leave.
1:29:30🔗DrewBut what's... Do you have a... do you play an instrument? Do you sing?
1:29:36🔗StrykerAnd I was going to say, to you, Meg, you don't need to come to LA to be in a band. I think there's this band called Nirvana that was from Seattle, Stone Temple, Pilots Pearl Jam, Temple the Dog, Soundgarden.
1:29:48🔗DrewMaybe you should... are you in a band?
1:29:53🔗StrykerI'm not really in a band at the moment, but my best friend, she is learning to play guitar too, and I have a friend who plays drums.
1:30:00🔗StrykerThat's awesome. Why don't you guys just... Yeah, just screw around out there.
1:30:04🔗StrykerYeah, we suck, and we don't, like, I don't know, I think probably some of it is because, like, where I am, like, living with my parents and everything, I can't really, I can't do anything, I can't go out and do what I want to do, and my mom kind of tries to control everything in my life, and it really, it's hurtful.
1:30:39🔗StrykerLay low, and get out when you're 18, go somewhere away to school, but don't sacrifice everything to try to solve your problems with the geographic change. It's not going to work.
1:30:49🔗DrewAnd the thing is, too, people are so ready to grow up, and once you turn 18 or 22, whenever you get out of school and you start paying your own bills, I'd love to go back. Have someone pay my rent and buy me clothes and feed me.
1:31:06🔗StrykerHey, how's it going, guys? I have a problem that really sucks. I can't ejaculate when I'm with a woman. And yeah, basically, I have to finish myself off every time. That is...
1:31:22🔗StrykerWait, and there's girls that love to watch that. Do you find that happening with you at all, Steve?
1:31:30🔗StrykerNot really. It's just kind of a pain in the butt.
1:31:34🔗StrykerWell, Adam's thing is that sex is good. It's just not the real thing. Because for him, the real thing is masturbation. And he has a technique where he thinks you have to sort of find a position that's akin to that which you have become accustomed to by yourself. And to sort of slowly include the other human into the activity. And eventually, it kind of gets better, but it's tough. It's a tough thing. We've heard that before. It's a tough one to overcome. Usually, there can be other kinds of ways. Maybe he'd get himself sort of geared up before it starts, sort of.
1:32:22🔗StrykerYou've got to slow down a little bit.
1:32:23🔗StrykerYou need a little bit of a visual image, then maybe they can incorporate that in, but more importantly, maybe his body needs a chance to sort of rebuild the fluids.
1:33:12🔗StrykerOh, thanks. I appreciate that. You are kicking ass. Soul Plane is already out and I will be first in line to see you in Dodgeball, a true underdog story. That's going to be fantastic. I can't wait to see you in a bra and your large ass.
1:33:36🔗StrykerWell, we will see you on TV and at the MTV Movie Awards very soon. Drew, I will see you tomorrow at 10 p.m. on your radio station. I'm Stryker and for Drew, we are saying goodbye. Hey, sir, can you please buy me the Big Dildo?
1:33:52🔗StrykerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Ingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.