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1:03🔗AdamHey everybody, it's Loveline and I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-191. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Dixon Medicine Specialist. Tonight, from Survivor, Jerri Manthey here. Favorite show. Let me say this about Jerri, as I was saying to Drew yesterday.
1:23🔗DrewDid you hear what I was saying in the previous show? Could you hear? He didn't, by the way. I'm sorry. I didn't hear what Drew was saying. I want to see if you say what I think you're going to say.
1:40🔗AdamWell, women always say guys wish they were lesbians, but really if you think about it, what's in it for us? I mean, if we got to watch, but we'd rather have sex with you.
1:50🔗DrewYeah, but you're more lucky to watch her with another woman.
3:11🔗AdamAll right, so let me talk about Survivor for a second. First, no, here's what I wanted to say about Jerri. Jerri was on The Australian Survivor, got a rap, is being a little bit of a drama queen and came in here and I saw Jerri.
3:26🔗CallerThat's a nice way to put it, by the way.
3:28🔗AdamI saw her on other shows. She came on our show and Jerri's thing was, look, it's all in the editing. It wasn't that bad, but it's how they cut it together. But it still struck me that you were closer to the person that was portrayed in the first one than you are now. It seems you've had some sort of renaissance or something. You seem more laid back, you're more comfortable.
3:54🔗AdamAll-Star? Well, here's an interesting one.
3:58🔗CallerHippophany, I see the light over there.
4:00🔗AdamWell, people went different directions like Mr. Humble Colby, for instance, who was just sort of a boy next door and the most humble guy in the world, was a little bit cocky. I know, you spin. He seemed cockier in the second one. You seem much more humble, much more open, much more friendly, much different than you did in the first one. And in general, I've seen you and heard you on some radio shows and seen you on other programs and stuff like that. In general, you seem like someone who's in a better mood than you were two and a half, three years ago. Is that true?
4:37🔗CallerYeah. I mean, OK, first of all, I've never blamed the editing. I never said it's all the editing. I don't mean all the editing. I know I gave in plenty of material the first time out. I was very cranky. And I honestly had no idea that hunger was going to affect me the way it did and lack of sleep.
4:54🔗CallerSo this time I was more prepared. But I was also going into the situation knowing the reaction that I got last time from people. It was so harsh. People said horrible things about me. And I had a lot of time to evaluate my personality. And I knew there were things about myself. Like I have a very low tolerance for stupidity and very little patience with people sometimes. So I worked on those things over the last couple of years.
5:26🔗AdamBut see, this is a great message to send to the kids, which is take a look at things. Take a look at things. When people have complaints, don't immediately shut them down and label them as jealous or vengeful or something like that. Say, well, maybe if ten people come up to you and say they don't like your hair, perhaps it's time for a new hairstylist instead of labeling them all stupid. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about everybody. But what Jerri did is...
5:57🔗AdamForget about hair. Well, ten people really all tell me how bad it looks.
6:01🔗CallerIf it's your choice to have that hairstyle, then wear it well.
6:05🔗AdamYeah, but you're only doing it to please people. Please just admit that, ladies. Here's my point. If enough people draw consensus about you, whether they're right or wrong, that's what people think. And if you don't want them to think that, then you have to alter something. But I'm paying you a compliment in a sort of roundabout way, which is...
6:26🔗DrewIn fact, for us, it's a high compliment. The plasticity and the openness, those are high compliments.
6:32🔗AdamJerri is a person that probably had a hundred good things and three bad things and fixed the three bad things. Or maybe two and a half of them.
6:44🔗AdamYeah, you really come across much differently than you did a couple years ago.
6:48🔗CallerAnd I allowed myself to be more vulnerable this time. The first time out, you know, reality TV hadn't really hit. And so I didn't understand and a lot of us didn't how it worked. And so my whole thing was to go in and be tough and to put on my game face and to be, you know, not let anybody see me get be hurt or be down.
7:09🔗DrewAnd this time, that's what they want to see.
7:11🔗CallerYeah, this time I went in and I said, you know what, I'm a human being. And there are times when I'm going to I'm going to need the company of other people.
7:19🔗AdamWell, there was I'll tell you, there was the best I'd say your best work was they had to build a shelter. True doesn't care for the show. So I have to I have to fill them in on it, but I'm a huge fan.
7:32🔗CallerThis is where the stupidity part comes.
7:34🔗AdamThey had to build a shelter and they left it up to Rupert, who's basically one of the sturdier guys who gets a lot done. And he decided they should dig a hole and have it be sort of subterranean on the beach. And then, of course, a red monsoon blew in. And there's two feet of water in this hole they were trying to sleep in. And everyone was just just sort of sitting just drenched.
7:58🔗CallerI mean, it made shivering for like eight hours. I had hypothermia.
8:03🔗AdamIt was brutal. I mean, but it made you made you feel sort of like Vietnam, like just like sleeping in a rice paddy kind of kind of thing.
8:11🔗CallerI honestly had post-traumatic stress disorder for like two months after I got back because of that night. That was the worst night of my entire life.
8:19🔗AdamOh, yeah, could never get worse than that. No, you'd have to be on fire the entire night. They just everyone just everyone realizing that they they they picked they went the wrong direction with the shelter, which was down monsoon rains came in. Everyone just sitting there soaked, not nothing dry, no shelter.
8:39🔗CallerIt was the only time I spoke up and said something. And I was very diplomatic about it, too. I was like, I'm a little concerned about our safety. And I said something else like, you know, there's a reason why people in California don't have basements. And he wouldn't listen to me. And I even put it up for vote with everyone else. So is there anyone else who is also concerned? And there were crickets.
9:05🔗AdamYou knew, you know, it was going to. I mean, it just it edited together beautifully. But while he was digging the hole, Jerry was saying, maybe we should go up instead of down. And no one would listen to her. And then it must have rained 17 inches that night.
9:21🔗CallerIt was the worst storm in survivor history. I mean, lightning was crackling so close to us. Our hair was like standing up and maybe the ground was good for that, though.
9:40🔗AdamWell, I was just I was just about to ask, like, well, these guys are standing around with these metallic items, you know, on their shoulders. And it's driving rain. And, you know, they're holding a 45 pound camera. They got to stand there all night to.
9:55🔗AdamSo they just went they just went for shelter and they canned them.
9:58🔗CallerYeah, because that's when there's no footage of the actual flooding or any footage of us standing around. We were literally like shivering, holding on to each other, telling stories from our childhood, just trying to focus on staying present.
10:31🔗CallerYeah, and the thing is, in Panama it rains so often and it's so moist that all your belongings are always wet. Like mold was growing inside my pants, like my army pants. I mean, we had to like fight off getting jungle rot, which is when your feet fall off. They fall apart like the bottoms of them. And we didn't have water or fire for five days. Water. That's got to be illegal.
10:59🔗AdamThat's what I was saying to Drew. Drew gets outraged about it. He gets on his big medical high horse when he starts talking about it, especially the part where you guys drink out of the well there.
11:13🔗CallerThey told us there were brain parasites.
11:14🔗DrewThen the re-feeding when they re-feed you guys.
11:16🔗AdamThe part where you get integrated back into society and they drop you off at a Shakey's.
11:24🔗DrewYou described how you swelled up and you got a leclat. That is very dangerous.
11:28🔗CallerYeah, it was really bad. This time, though, the food once we got off was bad enough where you didn't stuff yourself. It was like beans and rice every day.
11:37🔗AdamWell, good times, everybody. Survivor, Thursday Nights on CBS.
11:59🔗AdamOh, because they do the ending live. Right, but you know who the last two are. Yeah, you got to know that. Hey, you know what? Here's how mature I am. I don't want to know.
12:26🔗CallerWell, I mean, I'm kind of confused about my sexuality in a sense. Because I have this... I don't know, because I've never been late before.
12:57🔗CallerYeah. Well, I have this friend, and it seems like she's suggesting it. I don't know how to go about approaching her with her. Because I don't know.
13:08🔗DrewThere's no question. She's approached you. How do you approach it? She approached you. No question.
13:13🔗AdamWhat do you do? You mean how do you get your fly down?
13:18🔗CallerShe hasn't said, you know, let's do it. She's just kind of saying, you know, it's hard to find somebody that wants to do it with me.
13:31🔗DrewI just get bogus affect from the second you picked up the phone.
13:35🔗AdamI did, but also there are guys out there who this is life sounding bogus. They're a little, their voice is sort of tinny and it's wooden and there's nothing. This is like Keanu Reeves. This is what makes him such a great actor. He'll believe anything he ever says. They sound like they're lying. Everything that comes out of their mouth sounds like they're lying.
14:02🔗DrewNow you convinced me. Yes, you convinced me.
14:08🔗AdamBecause of my passion. I'm the antithesis of these guys. You see? Now Jeff could not be getting laid. I don't know what he did with the word laid, but he turned it into half a syllable.
14:53🔗AdamMaya Angelou. Boy, I close my eyes. I see his whole world. I see a guy with a C-plus, sort of medium size. Jeff, do you have any problems? You know, have you ever had any head trauma? Mild retardation? Anything like that?
15:46🔗AdamNo, hanging out with the jocks and the nerds means not hanging out with anybody. He's like saying, I was in the Black Panthers and the Klan. Really? Or were you just nowhere? Or were you just at your mom's house? You weren't anywhere.
16:01🔗DrewI want to know the jobs. What are the jobs? Come on. I'm getting intrigued. Now I'm in. Jeff, what do you do for a living? What are the jobs?
16:08🔗CallerI work at Taco Bell and I work at Dairy Queen and I'm going to school part time.
16:12🔗AdamYou know how much I would weigh if I worked at Taco Bell and Dairy Queen? I'd have like a blizzard and like a chalupa constantly going. It's like I'd be on a chalupa drip with the blizzard. I'd be taking the blizzard rectally with like a liquefied chalupa drip going.
16:30🔗CallerI like the new crunchy cheesy gordita.
17:09🔗CallerIt came in a really cool little bowl like dish.
17:12🔗AdamHere's the whole thing about the Mexican cuisine. You don't have to mix it up every few months. It's a bunch of cheese, a bunch of beef, a bunch of tortillas. That's it. Don't get fancy on us. Yeah, the enchilada. Oh, man.
17:34🔗AdamNo, bell beef or you could run a marathon with a bell beef.
17:36🔗DrewAll right, Jeff, here's the deal. The girl is bisexual. You are a virgin. You want to have a physical relationship with somebody you don't want to have an emotional relationship with. That's fine. She's looking for some kind of contact. That's fine. So go call her and take her for coffee and just see what happens. And don't expect to have a relationship from this. All right?
17:54🔗AdamAll right there, buddy. And meanwhile, how about a nice gal at work? I mean, there's probably some women you work with over at the DQ and over at the TB.
18:22🔗AdamYeah, good time. So, you know, all right. Yeah, no, that was a virgin there. That's what guys sound like. Really? Because he'll get laid and call back tomorrow and be like, Hey, how do you do? What? No, man. I dropped that gig over at the DQ. I'm now representing a label. I'm a publicist and I'm a personal trainer. Yeah, that's what it's like.
18:45🔗CallerThe voice goes down a couple of octaves.
18:48🔗AdamI've got a DVD that I'm looking to drop pretty soon. It's a personal trainer. It's a Tybo type thing. It's something I'm afraid I can't talk about. Yeah. That's what happens to guys after they get laid. And by the way, do you got to work at Dairy Queen and Taco Bell? Couldn't you just ask your manager, Taco Bell, to pump you up a few more numbs? You know, hey, give me a 45-hour week. I mean, save yourself a little drive time.
19:10🔗AdamWhat do you mean, what's he doing? He's taking care of business over there.
19:13🔗DrewNo, no, but I mean, he needs to be working all the time.
19:15🔗AdamYou're talking to the guy who put in an application of the Taco Bell and it wasn't Taco Bell material cut out of the Taco Bell. Oh, no. Yeah. Didn't make the cut. And they have quite a rigorous screening process over there, which is if it didn't look like you filled it out with your fist clenching a crayon, they let you in. Like, if your thing doesn't have a big skull and crossbones drawn in charcoal on it, they'll let you in. I didn't make it in.
19:50🔗CallerIt was on an Army base in Alabama. Yeah. And I got moved up to drive through because I was that good. Yeah.
19:58🔗AdamOh, yeah. That's when you've arrived. Yeah. Because the movie, because that's what they call a face position. It's a face job. They put you in the drive through because what you...
20:10🔗AdamYou're like the hood ornament of a car. That's what people see, where I was more like an intake manifold. I was down in the bowels, you know. I was working the grill. I was a grill guy. Then hand me it up front.
20:34🔗CallerI've got a small question here. Every time I have sex, well, just about every time I have sex, I end up spotting and hurting afterwards. Can you tell me if this is normal?
20:49🔗DrewThe hurting part is a little bit disconcerting. The spotting can be quite normal. But the pain, where is the pain?
20:56🔗CallerIt's a burning pain right around the vaginal opening.
21:00🔗DrewWhen was the last time you had a pap smear?
21:03🔗CallerOh, I guess it was just a couple months ago.
21:06🔗DrewThat was normal? Have you ever had ovarian cysts or endometriosis or any problems like that?
21:12🔗CallerI did have an ovarian cyst but it went away. It was kind of mid-cycle.
21:23🔗DrewI would certainly suspect that there's a possibility of another ovarian cyst. They tend to recurse. That's a possibility. It could be normal. It could be a little infection. Blood or infection? No blood. Well, I mean, you never know because you're just having this sort of nonspecific pain. But the pain and bleeding usually is uterine inability. Ouch. So, it's time for another public exam just to be sure.
21:46🔗CallerNow, the thing that concerns me is it usually only happens especially whenever I have an orgasm.
22:01🔗AdamNo, that's what I'm saying. You'd be on Easy Street.
22:06🔗DrewAgain, there's nothing specific about the fact that it follows orgasm. In fact, it sounds more normal than not because again, there's some contractions that can push the blood through. So I wouldn't worry about this, but it should be checked out. Sometimes the blood can just be irritating. There's a hundred reasons for this.
22:22🔗AdamI don't know why. I was thinking about Survivor and tampons and stuff. And I think we talked about how that worked before.
23:07🔗CallerYeah, sometimes. I mean, Rudy's 75. I'm sure he was...
23:12🔗AdamI didn't see any luxury items this time around.
23:16🔗CallerThey took them away. They didn't let us have anything this time. Not even a change of clothes. They gave us a machete and said, here you go.
23:25🔗AdamI'm telling you, it just keeps getting worse.
23:28🔗CallerIt was by far the worst experience of my life.
23:31🔗AdamI'll tell you, I was predicting at this rate, like Survivor 2025, they would take a rusty piece of rebar, shove it in between your ribs and pierce a lung, and drop you in the...
23:47🔗AdamNo, in the Atlantic during a storm at night. And that's it. Enjoyed it for like 10 seconds. It's getting to the point where they're going to start hobbling people before they drop them out on the island, because they already got nothing.
24:01🔗CallerWell, hopefully they'll up the prize money a little bit at that point.
24:11🔗AdamIs second place $250 or is it five? What the hell was second place? The winner is a million bucks. And then second was like... What was second place? $250?
24:22🔗CallerI don't know. They upped everything this time.
24:37🔗AdamAnd then was there a third or was the third like a car or something? Or there was no third?
24:42🔗CallerYeah, it was all money all the way down. But the sooner you got voted off, the less money you got. You have an incentive to want to stay out there as long as possible.
24:53🔗AdamYeah, some fat history teacher from Wisconsin sits on his ass, choose the fats, got to call Lifeline. His buddies and other faculty over at Harvard gives him the answer. Then the audience votes on the thing. And then there's just a 50-50 one. Get rid of two wrong answers. Really just sitting on your fat keys there and you're getting yourself a million bucks? Say million.
25:15🔗AdamYeah, these guys are eating grubs out in the wilderness and hypothermia. OK, so wait a minute now. We got to go to break. But when does the money start? I mean, if you're the first person thrown off, do you get anything? Yeah. OK, because I thought the money started not much. Well, let's figure this out. Jerri Manthey here from Survivor. I forgot about this whole part. They just, you know, they focus on the million dollars. I want to know like what number five gets and what's not a lot. Don't ruin it for everybody. Man, not a lot for you, but it'd be a lot for someone. I was going to say me, but, you know, I'm literally a millionaire, but someone like engineer Chris. Oh, man. Oh, man. Let's.
26:52🔗AdamI'll tell you, you made a pretty good splash for not cracking the top five, two survivors running. I mean, it's amazing. And it'd be an interesting study, the names you remember and the ones you don't oftentimes not having to do with what place they even came in. Obviously, if you're getting voted off the first week, the second week, you're going to fade out. But there are people who never made it past the halfway point or made it right about the halfway point, who turned out to be some of the bigger names and personalities from the show. So we're talking about money. We're talking about money last time and a million bucks to the winner. But everybody will get so if you get vote when they start 18. How many people?
27:41🔗AdamNormally 60. If you get voted off the first the first court, what the hell they call it? Tribal Council. First Tribal Council you get voted off. What do you get?
27:55🔗CallerWell, in the regular season, the person got 2500 bucks.
27:59🔗DrewIs that their total pay for the whole thing?
28:47🔗CallerIt was, wasn't it? You still can't stop thinking about money.
28:51🔗AdamPeople call me and ask me, you know, what do you get paid for this commercial? What do you get paid for this? What do you get paid for that? Yeah, I tell them.
29:11🔗AdamWell, you know what the guy made. You know the winner gets a million bucks. Does, in the second place, gets 500? You don't have to give us all the place.
29:20🔗CallerI don't know. This time it's totally different for the All Stars. I know that they had to give us some more.
29:25🔗AdamJust tell us what 10th place makes. That'll be the, or somewhere in the middle.
31:12🔗AdamThis is... What an actress. Here's the thing. All bizarre stories, all acts of evil, bizarre, evil, crime, the macabre, the occult, they come from either Germany or Florida. We hear the story and then we guess. Is it Germany or Florida? David?
31:33🔗CallerAn artist has applied a license to open a brothel for sexually frustrated dogs and says it will be the first of its kind anywhere. An artist who's 54 said he planned to charge dog owners a reasonable amount of money per half an hour of happiness. If dogs can't get what they want, they get cranky, just like people, he told reporters. This establishment would offer patrons a variety of carefully vetted participants of both sexes, rooms for private encounters, and even a bar where customers could sniff out preferred partners.
32:08🔗AdamPrivate encounters, like a dog. Dog, by the way, who rolls in his own ass in front of a group of nuns, needs his own place to get his work done.
32:20🔗DrewI'm with you on that. It's put through the language here, the customer, the vetted customers.
32:25🔗AdamHe also said an appropriate amount of money, which may have been his twist on it. This whole, by the way, the whole game has been destroyed by us just listening to the dialogue and trying to figure out clues from the story rather than hearing what the essence of the story was.
32:40🔗DrewThe essence still goes to Germany. We try to...
32:42🔗AdamYeah, I feel Germany on this. We're all going Germany?
34:09🔗CallerAre you serious? I'm like, OK, it's just getting a little ridiculous.
34:14🔗AdamI know the whole thing about the brothels, like Germany, is it spiraling out of control because of the brothels? You know what I mean?
34:24🔗CallerAnd there's no drinking age. No, there isn't. And you know what? I got to tell you, growing up over there, there were fewer issues with people drunk in public places. They're always the Americans.
34:36🔗AdamGermany makes a couple of good points, which is no speed limit on the Autobahn, less highway fatalities than we have. So the essence, like we sort of think, well, look, speed equals death and age of consent equals alcoholism and brothels equal more prostitution, as it turns out, it's probably just a better idea to sort of educate it and control it a little bit. Because what kid out here doesn't have his first beer by 15 anyway, by the way, the 21 just means you got to get one of your older, your brother's older buddies to go to go buy yourself a six or a Mickey's.
35:15🔗CallerAnd then you've got that whole thing about you feel like you're doing something bad and then you go into that cycle of behavior.
35:20🔗AdamWell, it is it is alluring. If you think about it, kids don't like the taste of beer. I mean, beer tastes horrible. Now it's my medicine. Chris, give me a cold one. We're almost halfway to the show. The thing is, is beer tastes really bad up until the age of like even up until your early 20s is when you're in a certain point, you turn the corner and you need it. But you know, wine, beer, wine doesn't take a red wine, a bottle of stout, ale doesn't taste good to a 14 year old. You slug it down and make a face. I don't think you would do that. You know, if it's legal, would you put up, you know, would you hold your nose and shoot it down?
35:57🔗CallerAnd the kids that do it, like the German kids that start drinking at an early age, if they get sick once, like I met this German kid, he was like, Oh, I got sick. And I was like 12 and I haven't had anything to drink since.
36:10🔗AdamHe was 13. Well, actually does find it does fight correctly now, but will not drink it. Absolutely.
36:58🔗Jerri MantheyYeah. My brother did. And I think that is the reason why I can't go on climax when I do intercourse with my boyfriend. I've been with him for two years.
37:09🔗AdamHold on now, baby doll. I take a break. Yes. Just hang on. Take a break. We'll be right back. All right. I'm going to talk to you. I've been doing a little cult research. I mean, not actually research, but watching TV sometimes something comes on about a cult and I've really distilled it. All cults are basically white dudes in their late forties, early fifties who want to nail chicks.
37:36🔗AdamIt's it. Every single one of them turns into they first they get a bunch. It's sort of a Charles Manson thing. You get sort of disenfranchised, screwed up. Abuse. Yeah. Abuse victims. And you get them in and they come in. And then at a certain point, once they believe you're sort of God or you're the mouthpiece of God, it starts coming into, yeah, I'm going to need you to drop off your 13 year old daughter and I'm going to nail her. And then I'm going to nail your sister. And then it's always sexual. And this is why it's always guys who run cults, by the way. There's no fat 50 year old chick Lesbo who runs a cult. It's just a bunch. It's the same dude and it always turns into an orgy. No one ever really talks about it, but that's all it is. And it's about nailing tons and tons of young chicks and nailing everyone's daughters. Abuse survivors. Yeah, it's just abusing abuse survivors. That's really what it is. And whenever they do these shows on like 20, 20, it's always, he said this, he did. And they sort of brush past the sexual part of it. But that's really the engine that drives the cult, right?
39:48🔗AdamOh, wow. Jerri Manthey here from Survivor, my favorite show. Yeah, just have a nice spirited conversation during the break there about what everyone has to do to the people that write letters. Yes.
40:47🔗Jerri MantheyAfter a while, like, my mom, my dad was the one that was in it at first. And then, like, he pressured my mom into it. And it was a lot different back in the day, I guess. But it slowly changed. And they were just brainwashed. And then my mom just said, if they don't leave, that she would just take all the kids anyway, because if they get raided, they get the kids taken away anyway. So she said that she was going to report it if he didn't get out. So he realized. And then once a couple of years after that, they kind of realized a lot of things that were bad to it once they got some sanity. But they're still really messed up.
41:21🔗DrewHorrible. And then there was sexual abuse going on in the house.
41:24🔗Jerri MantheyYes, by my brother and several of my sisters. I have a really big family. I have five sisters and two brothers. Yeah. And then I have another brother I never met before because of this call. My parents were like, they believe that you couldn't be, it was selfish to keep your, to share each other and not share each other. So all of the, it was against God's rules to be selfish. So all the adults just kind of, yeah.
41:59🔗AdamYeah. I told you, it's like, just call it an orgy and stay, stay where you are. No one should, they don't just- Yeah, but there's dudes getting in there too. It sounds like on this call, was the cult leader having sex with people?
42:15🔗Jerri MantheyOh, there's a lot of different leaders, like the main guy was David Bergen, he was just the one that sent us like all the flyers and what we should do and stuff, like all the books and stuff to all the different calls and movies.
42:26🔗AdamIt's like, by the way, how about just going down to the Oriental Massage and getting a quick release, you know?
42:32🔗CallerYeah, why get all those other people involved?
42:35🔗AdamIt's like a nightmare. It's like, it's what a pain in the ass would be to start, Drew, you're not a horrible cult leader I would be. I'd come out, I'd be tired, I'd be like, oh, you guys still here? Listen, I'm going to watch some TiVo. You guys do what you got to do. Look, if you're here when I'm done, so be it.
42:51🔗DrewNow, Amy, your original question was, is this, have anything to do with why you don't have orgasm during intercourse now, and it's 17, 80, 90% of women do not have orgasm with intercourse.
43:02🔗Adam80, 90. And then it drops up to, it goes up to 100% when they get into their 20s, right? And then higher than 100%, I found, and as they get into their 30s.
43:13🔗DrewAnd Amy, over half of women will never have an orgasm with intercourse.
43:21🔗DrewNot necessarily. How about the fact that that's how women are wired and men are taught that that's how it works, they need to attend to some other things.
44:03🔗AdamHe should have a deodorant named after him. He's 110, 120%. He never stops working. And the more pressure the situation, the better he is. That's when he's activated. His penis gets activated by pressure. Hey, Amy. Are you getting some counseling for all the horrible years you've spent at the hands of the cold leader?
44:27🔗Jerri MantheyOh, yes. We've been through lots of family therapy. It's like it doesn't work. Well, it will.
45:09🔗Jerri MantheyI was just wondering if there's like anything I could do to help it or...
45:13🔗DrewAre you crying? It sounds like you're crying every time you talk.
45:16🔗Jerri MantheyNo. No, I mean like, is there anything like I can do to change the way... No.
45:21🔗AdamLook, here's what you got to do. Don't put the screws to yourself part in the pun. Oral sex. Put too much pressure on yourself. Yeah, oral sex.
45:28🔗CallerGet a Kama Sutra book and make your boyfriend read it.
45:32🔗AdamYeah. You can get the pop-up version. I got that. Yeah, the oral sex. Right Jerri?
45:45🔗DrewI know. You're just formulating a sort of a byline.
45:51🔗AdamWell, we got this theory. Drew has a theory that the people of supreme passion, the true purveyors of passion, like Drew over here, oral sex, it's okay, but it's sort of the salad before the big tri-tip shows up. Yeah. You want to get to the meat, you know what I mean? Because Drew is that passionate.
46:16🔗AdamBut you have a theory about that with women, too.
46:18🔗DrewThat there's something similar, yeah, a similar wiring thing.
46:22🔗AdamAnd by the way, it makes sense. If a woman can have an orgasm through intercourse and really, really enjoys that, you can enjoy oral sex, but let's get to, let's get to the good stuff. Yes?
46:35🔗CallerYeah. I mean, well, an internal orgasm for a woman is a thousand times more intense.
46:53🔗AdamWell, I won't say what the tenth, the tenth person makes 45K, but the internal orgasm, never ending. Can't get her to shut up about that. Very interesting. All right. We're going to take a little break. Jerri Manthey here from Survivor. We'll be right back after this.
48:34🔗CallerHe's just hardcore. He's like seventy five. He used to be a Navy SEAL. And the whole time out there, regardless of how difficult it was, he never complained once. I mean, and he was hurt when he left. He had hurt his foot and he refused to let anybody know. I mean, the guy was just like he wouldn't stop.
48:52🔗AdamWell, you know, he comes from a time and now we should talk about this, that guys weren't really supposed to complain.
49:01🔗AdamYou know, they're supposed to be shot and like refuse help. Now, everyone's to sue everybody because they dumped a little cup of soup on their nards while they were driving out of the 7-Eleven. I mean, guys have become pussies, like flat out pussies. They never were before. They are. I don't know if it's, you know, video games or attorneys or guys are running in the Internet. Guys are turning into chicks all of a sudden.
49:27🔗AdamBut the other no, but it's not all it's it's like the guys. A lot of guys I know, guys I work with, they get angry when I talk about this, but they proudly boast that they couldn't change a tire on their car. And they they they boast that they know nothing about, you know, fixing up a house or, you know, that or or that they would get, you know, beat up if an assailant came in or something. It's it's this weird thing where guys used to at least have a little bravado about it, where it'd be like, look, if, you know, if we were the last people left on Earth, you'd want me in charge, that kind of thing. Now it's a guy sort of almost becoming like women saying, look, you know, if I don't have a laptop and a microwave, I'm no good to anybody.
50:14🔗DrewYou're being a little too disparaging of women. It's it's worse than that. You know what I mean? It's not that we're going when we're just becoming soft.
50:22🔗CallerYeah, which is nice on one hand. But I got to tell you, honestly, as a woman, I think it's hot when I know a guy can take care of me if we get a flat or if the doorknob in the bathroom is broken. He can fix it. Like power tools and guys are a great mix.
50:38🔗AdamWell, you know, I think I think guys think I mean, I think the idea of a successful guy now is, you know, I got triple A. I got the card, my wallet. I'll call the triple A guy. I've arrived. I'm not going to get up in there and, you know, dent a cuticle. I it's yeah, somehow this is it's almost a little bit of a royalty thing, too. Like, look, I don't want to get down on my knees in the dirt and, you know, bust, bust my knuckles trying to free up a seized lug nut.
51:08🔗DrewThere's a little bit of a willingness to grow up kind of piece of this.
51:13🔗AdamWell, maybe it's mommy. Maybe I got that element. Maybe that element's worked in to I'm just saying and women, too, by the way, and don't defend them. Now, leave them alone. Women used to, I think, take a little more pride in the I can whip up a meal fit for a king from just a scratch. It's in the refrigerator and do a little mending on the trousers to women. Well, you're a renaissance woman. Women now look at that as being some sort of a subservient or something and guys look at it as low rent if, you know, so it's really you're probably where it's all coming from that we're supposed to be the same and we're all the same in our just nothingness. Yeah, but here would be a better idea. How about we all learn how about guy learns to fix a car and so instead we've just decided all just be blank slates and all just we'll just pay someone else to sit on the computer. Well, yeah, well, we'll get a couple of illegals in and they can do the cooking and change the tires. That's what it's turned into.
52:25🔗CallerOK, I have two different incidents that happened with gynecologists. One was when I was about, I'm saying about 20 years old. I remember being very uncomfortable because the gynecologist, it was a woman and it was my second time going to a gynecologist and it was just for a regular pap smear. And she stuck a finger up my butt.
52:59🔗DrewRight. Doctors are trained to do that. That's part of the pelvic exam.
53:02🔗CallerBut I've never had, I've never had any.
53:04🔗DrewThen your doctors were actually doing incomplete exams without that.
53:08🔗AdamHow about a little heads up though before you get to get you up the rack.
53:29🔗DrewThey're supposed to anyway. But you know, you can't, there's a septum between the vagina and the, and the rectum where tumors can occur. You can't feel it behind the ovaries quite the same way as through the rectum, unfortunately. And that's part of the exam.
53:41🔗AdamLet me, you know, I was thinking, you think there's ever been a gynecologist who puts his patients out and then starts working on their teeth? Just a twist on the naughty dentist. Somewhere, there's got to be some guy with like a, who, you know, some sort of tooth obsession, who's a gynecologist. No? Would be an interesting twist. Hey, Kat?
54:03🔗AdamAll right. So let's chalk that one off the list. And by the way, you couldn't have sussed that one out. I mean, like, talked to some of your friends or gone on the internet and figured it out.
54:17🔗DrewWhat was your other question? What was the other thing?
54:19🔗CallerMy other question was, I went to the hospital for a really bad stomach pain, which afterwards I found out it was stress. But the doctor there, I told her, you know, I might have something wrong with your… How do you say it?
54:50🔗CallerOkay, so, usually they put K or K-Y jelly, right? K-Y, yeah. You know, to put that metal thing in you, you know, and open you up and stuff.
55:12🔗DrewWhere the threshold is. Where is the threshold for trouble? Okay. Why you act stupid like that? So they didn't use lubricant for the speculum exam?
55:39🔗AdamNow, usually they just spit. I mean, that's how you spit.
55:43🔗CallerBecause she, as well, she stuck, you know, two fingers in, in, in my, you know, and…
55:50🔗DrewOK, Cat, here's the deal. You were sexually abused growing up, weren't you? Listen, what happened to you growing up? You were sexually abused? Huh?
56:03🔗DrewOK, but listen, you're experiencing, Cat, every… pelvic exam as a reliving, a revivification of the abuse. And the fact is, the people are just doing their job. They're just, they're not interested in you sexually. They're just doing what they have to do to keep you safe medically.
56:20🔗AdamYou know what I bet? I bet she was beaten with a thesaurus.
56:27🔗AdamSomething, something has turned her off to verbiage, right?
56:29🔗DrewBut listen, Cat, there's no way, there's no way that's what happened. I understand that's what you experienced, that's what you believe happened.
56:49🔗CallerI just remember my stepfather, like, playing with my nipples when I was seven.
56:56🔗AdamThat's good and weird. All right, but what about this theory? More, just, inappropriate. Everyone around her seems, she, it does something inappropriate.
57:05🔗DrewYeah, she's interpreting everything as an intrusion. Everything as somebody should exploit her.
57:15🔗DrewTalk to your therapist about what happened, both with your stepdad and with these caretakers. Certainly, it should be reported if your therapist thinks it's appropriate.
57:23🔗AdamYes. Okay, so now here's, um, and I was just hearing about, Drew and I talking about this, uh, Kobe trial every once in a while. And this, every time we speak to someone like this, this is what reminds me of it, which is, uh, if your cat, anybody who comes in contact with you, uh, it is perceived as abuse.
57:53🔗DrewWhether it's her experience of something that was innocent or did she really attract a perpetrator?
57:59🔗AdamYeah, after a while it just, you know, you get stuff like the finger in the ass and it turns out, and by the way, they're not interested in pursuing the truth. Which is, hey, my gyno just put a ring finger in the took eye. Uh, hey, Susie, from down the street, you've been to the gyno. Is this on the menu or is this special order?
58:18🔗DrewNo, in the meantime she spends seven years feeling victimized.
58:21🔗AdamRight, instead of just as she could get on the Internet and get the answer to her question in a matter of seconds or talk to a couple other women who've undergone the same procedure and find out it was fine. She's not interested in that. She'd rather be a victim for the next seven years. And probably isn't going to listen to whatever Drew said about the appropriate part about that being part of the gynecological exam. But as this pertains to Kobe, is if you're with somebody who experiences every encounter, as abuse or rape, then Kobe, and I don't know what he did, but there's a good chance if she had the kind of history that someone like this had, whenever someone is with them, that's how it goes down in their book. And so it's confusing to the guy. It's like, what do you mean? We just had a good time.
59:09🔗DrewWell, it's amorphous because very often women like that will be alluring. They will actually, unknown to themselves, will be surprised when they get themselves in situations that they brought on, so to speak. They didn't ask, they didn't know they were asking for it, but they did.
59:24🔗DrewAnd then it becomes a victimization to them. And so it's... But again, the hard part is they attract the victimizers. That's the crazy thing. Right.
59:31🔗AdamSo you never know, you never know for sure. I think it's safe to say that Kobe probably not your typical rapist. Not the kind of guy who hides in the bushes at the park. You know what I'm saying? And probably capable of having consensual sex with strange women on the road. And I'm sure in his mind this went down as just another marital infidelity. And when you start scratching beneath her surface and looking into her past a little, maybe it seems more like that's more the way it went. And she was a little more like Kat who just called in. By the way, in court, all this stuff is inadmissible or oftentimes is like, hey, the fact that, you know, OJ had been beating the crap out of Nicole for the last 10 years. Inadmissible. Really?
1:00:25🔗AdamYeah. If you were the lawyer that was defending Kat's gynecologist, I would want this to be, it's very admissible. I mean, it's very germane to the case.
1:00:39🔗DrewAnd yet Rush Limbaugh has to expose his medical records, which are irrelevant to what he was doing. He's been caught doing what he did. He's an addict. Of course he shopped around. Every addict does that.
1:00:51🔗DrewAnd his medical records, not to defend Rush in any other way, except to say, that guy's medical records is the one that has to be opened?
1:00:58🔗AdamYeah. It's ridiculous. It is if whether you have a long history of beating your wives or you were an abuse victim and had been through, you know, many other cases like this or situations like this, of course you need to know that going into this case. Doesn't mean you weren't raped and it doesn't mean you killed this wife, but it sure helps. It really does. Yeah. Yeah. To me, that's all the case. That's half the case.
1:01:31🔗DrewIt's like the circumstances will count. It's not whether somebody actually was found with the gun or confessed.
1:02:04🔗AdamHe's on. He's in a sand bunker somewhere on Pebble Beach. They're looking for the point. And but but but also you should be able to use your ex wife who you never beat. Right. You know, she should say, oh, no, this guy never raised a hand. I got drunk and punched him in the stomach once. He didn't raise a hand to me. Use that. Right. Because that's all you need to know. It's all you need to know. All right. Let's hop back to the phones. We'll speak to Dustin. It was 19. Dustin.
1:02:39🔗CallerGot a question for Dr. Drew, I guess. What are the if there's any permanent effects of opiate use?
1:02:46🔗DrewWell, one of the reasons opiates are so popular to pain medication is they don't hurt anything. They leave the body essentially unaffected by their analgesic or pain relieving properties. The problem with opiates are that for genetically prone individuals, they trigger the most severe and life-threatening forms of addiction. So if you're using opiates, what?
1:03:09🔗CallerSo it's the addiction that's the bad thing about opiates.
1:03:14🔗DrewThat is really the only bad thing to speak of, release of significance. But the addiction will kill you. And I'm not talking about dependency and I'm not talking about withdrawal. I'm talking about the alteration of the drive systems of your brain, such that when you try to stop using opiates, it will change everything. Everything you think, everything you feel. And the total priority of every shred of impulse in your body will be to get back on drugs, even when you know you absolutely shouldn't.
1:03:42🔗CallerExactly. And how long does that last?
1:03:44🔗DrewThe rest of your life. That's why you have to be in treatment.
1:04:09🔗DrewWhat's that? Great, good times. Alright, buddy boy. Good luck.
1:04:13🔗AdamGood luck. Thanks. He's calling from Louisiana. Mm-hmm. On picture, just a treatment center is just like a guy passing a cider jug around to people like maybe a little picking and grinning.
1:04:26🔗DrewLooking out across the sea of those big... What are those things called? Those big rodents?
1:04:46🔗AdamYeah, I think they're raccoon size. Put it this way. They were going to use them for their pelts and then they got out of control. It's a cool story.
1:05:19🔗AdamYeah. Yeah, the guy's just driving around shooting at them. It's good times, though. I mean, they're really like, here's the thing. Everyone wants to shoot. You know, it's a fun idea to blow something's head off. The problem is, is you don't want to, you know, a bear is so majestic. And then, you know, the the elk and the moose, you know, it's no good.
1:05:41🔗AdamRabbits are kind of cuddly and stuff. And then and then, you know, raccoons don't seem like a good thing to shoot because, you know, they use their hands like we do. And I got little kids, little kids and stuff that hang with them. So you got to see, here's all things like I would like to shoot stuff, but I can't find anything good to shoot. But like Nutria, I could shoot because they're disgusting. Yeah, it's like, it's like, well, first off, it's OK to shoot ugly stuff. That's one thing I've learned. It's OK to be mean to fat people and it's OK to shoot ugly stuff. Well, I think we've all learned that as a society, because really, the difference between rabbits and Nutria is one is ugly. Really? And it and one's cuddly and it's perfectly fine to shoot the ugly one. The ugly one deserves to die. I mean, you got to be punished. How are you going to learn your lesson about being ugly? You know what I'm saying? Well, if you do think about it philosophically, if you think about the way we treat like insects, like, you know, ladybug versus a cockroach and, you know, insects are all basically insects. They don't do any good and they don't do any harm. And some are worse than others. But cockroach never killed anybody. They're just ugly.
1:06:52🔗DrewThose centipedes you have in your house, too, disgust me.
1:06:55🔗AdamThey always say they always say cockroach. They always say cockroach has carried disease. But I have probably about as much as any other animal that's around your house and your hands. Yeah, your hands carry.
1:07:13🔗AdamMy point is, is cockroaches need to die and butterflies need to be admired. I don't know if I don't think anyone, either one of them is any inherently better than the other, it's just one is very ugly, needs to die and and nutria need to die and bunny rabbits need to live.
1:07:33🔗CallerIt really make a really nice coat out of a rabbit.
1:07:37🔗AdamAt least use it for. Yeah. Use it to line some gloves or something. But now, now taking that mindset, now let's let's let's focus on humans. Wow. Now it's a little scary, isn't it?
1:07:52🔗AdamYou guys could all live because you're beautiful. I would let you stay. I give myself a pass too because it was my idea. Chris, we need to talk.
1:08:24🔗AdamJerri Manthey here tonight from Survivor. We'll take a quick break. We'll hear something from Jerri's band after this as well. All after this. Hey everybody, it's Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Gerrymanthi here tonight from Survivor. You also remember her from The Surreal Life, which is a show I enjoyed immensely. Aw.
1:09:39🔗DrewLet's take one call and then hear a Jerri Manthey song.
1:09:41🔗AdamI tell you, I caught a little buzz this afternoon, I gotta be honest with you. Yeah.
1:09:48🔗DrewYou're good this way. It's good. We do that again? I know you're drinking a bottle of wine every night. You might as well dose up before you get here if it helps your attitude.
1:10:06🔗AdamNo, because I'm filming this ABC special and as part of it, there's weddings. And so I had to sort of preside over, I had to make the toast at two of these weddings by the way.
1:10:21🔗CallerYou had to toast people you didn't know?
1:10:24🔗DrewWhat about this one? They didn't hand you a written toast.
1:10:26🔗AdamOh, no, no. But the point is, is, yeah, nice, you know, drinking a little white wine, a little champagne and times two weddings this afternoon.
1:10:52🔗AdamOh, no, I didn't get home until almost eight o'clock.
1:10:55🔗DrewBut during the day when the sun was up, you were drinking the white wine.
1:10:57🔗AdamYeah, yeah. This is my point. This could be my new schedule. Couple glasses of white wine, you know, around 11, depending on when I get up 113012, a brunch-ish glass of white wine. Just take the edge off. And a little more. You know, I had a couple Sangrias and stuff, I don't need to dilute things. Just a little champagne or a little white wine during the day and then off to the red wine in the later evening.
1:12:28🔗CallerAnd after that, my whole attitude about everything changed and I ended up gaining a lot of weight. I became very introverted, I used to be very talkative, extroverted and then it just all switched. And I kind of went through phases of that and then, well, obviously I gained a lot of weight in high school and when I graduated from high school, things sucked. And I was in counseling all through high school and I hated all my counselors.
1:12:57🔗DrewDid you tell them about the, did you tell any of them about your abuse?
1:13:00🔗CallerI did. A little bit. But I never, I never really talked about it. So, how? Well, then I started dating after high school and a couple of my boyfriends, you know, I believe in not having sex until I'm married and I understand it's a big thing for guys not having sex and some of them respected that and my first boyfriend was very respectful and when he broke up with me, he was like, well, you're the first girlfriend I've never had sex with and whatever.
1:13:37🔗CallerWell, how do I go about a relationship without having sex with a guy? I mean, I know I don't want to have sex, but how do you get a guy to understand that?
1:14:01🔗DrewBut this is a reaction to the trauma. And this is a way of keeping people at arm's length so you can't be intimate. The problem is going to be when she does start having sex, a whole other series of horrible feelings are going to occur and it's going to affect her ability to have a stable relationship in a marriage. So it's about time you start dealing with this stuff now. It's really not about the sex. It's about the intimacy. And unless you do something about that, waiting till marriage is not going to avoid the kinds of problems that are ahead.
1:14:28🔗AdamNo, that's going to be a tough honeymoon.
1:14:30🔗DrewNow, in terms of finding guys that cooperate with this, you've got to find guys who value this same thing the way you do, or not guys who are reacting to trauma like you are. And that's going to be probably, when you say religious guys, probably.
1:14:43🔗AdamYeah, or guys who are gay and you'll be just a beard for them. Well, I'm being realistic.
1:14:49🔗CallerWait, we say that again. What did you say about gay guys?
1:14:52🔗AdamWell, gay guys who are looking for a beard can do this too.
1:14:57🔗CallerWould love to be in a relationship with a woman without sex. Yeah.
1:15:00🔗AdamSo, Anna, you got to get some therapy.
1:15:03🔗CallerWell, what kind of therapy do you suggest?
1:15:06🔗DrewJust plain old individual psychotherapy because you need to find a way to have intimacy again. This is not about the sex. I guarantee you.
1:15:16🔗CallerI mean, I've been in therapy right now. I'm going to school for massage therapy and it's very hard because we work on each other in class and there are days where I'm on the table and I have partnered classmates that I'm really close with and we're all in the same class. We've been together for the last eight months and I'm comfortable with them, but there are days where I'll just break down and cry on the table.
1:15:38🔗DrewWell, that's all kind of positive, really.
1:15:42🔗CallerI hear that happens a lot in massage therapy.
1:15:45🔗AdamWell, you got a lot of nut jobs attracted to the business, too. And by the way, this is what I can't stand about life, you know, the person that breaks down and they start crying and it's kind of weird, you know, that weird work.
1:15:59🔗DrewYeah, but then they have to go, you see, it's releasing the energy flow. It's like, no, she's reliving her sexual abuse from childhood. It feels like I just came on.
1:16:07🔗AdamI just had a great idea, which is signing up for a massage therapy course and then coming in like three days into two casts on both hands.
1:16:19🔗AdamI was thrown off a horse and and basically I'm riding it out and then now it just become the massage dummy. And I just lie there sipping my white wine, getting massage for like nine hours a day, drooling on yourself. And other people like, OK, Pig Pile, nine of you, get on me, all of you. And they all, you know, take a part, you know, for the final.
1:16:42🔗CallerWhy not just call that an orgy, Adam?
1:18:28🔗CallerAnd it's fire performers, hula hoopers, aerial artists.
1:18:32🔗AdamNow, are you singing as well or just throwing fire around?
1:18:37🔗CallerNo, the fire performance is only a small part of it. There's a lot of things going on. People when they are very overwhelmed when they come to see us because they don't. There's all these just beautiful things going on stage and girls and really cool little costumes.
1:18:49🔗AdamSo you basically say drop some acid, come out to mutate. I'm reading between the lines.
1:20:00🔗AdamDjembe drums. And then, now who was singing?
1:20:05🔗CallerThose are tracks that are brought in, there's two guys that have laptops and they've layered all these different tracks of sounds and vocals.
1:20:12🔗AdamSo it's just sort of like a cosmic jam session for the senses.
1:20:18🔗CallerAnd the crowd literally at the beginning of the night is just standing there, they don't know what to think and by the end they're jumping up and down and screaming.
1:20:43🔗AdamWow. What do you do? You get naked and run around?
1:20:47🔗CallerIf you want. You can do whatever you want.
1:20:50🔗AdamWhat's the funkiest, freakiest, and by the way, explain what Burning Man is. We got a lot of people like in Ohio who don't know what that is.
1:21:00🔗CallerEveryone will explain it differently.
1:21:02🔗DrewExcept for the Burning Man. You can explain that.
1:21:07🔗CallerWell, it's basically a temporary city built in the middle of nowhere. There's like 30,000 people.
1:21:15🔗CallerNevada. The most barren desert I've ever seen is like no rocks, no trees. We build a city and literally there's like a daily newspaper. There's like 40 radio stations that people broadcast from their tents.
1:21:28🔗DrewHow long are they there for, the city?
1:21:30🔗CallerIt's for a week. But there are people that are like right now planning this year's event already.
1:21:36🔗AdamAnd it takes place in the summer or something?
1:22:00🔗CallerYes. In the middle of the city, there's like a five-story wooden man that at the end of the event, we burn down and everybody's cheering.
1:22:09🔗AdamAnd people show up in tents and trailers, Winnebago's, that kind of stuff. And then at night, just bonfires and parties and people sort of float from tribe to tribe. Or how's it work?
1:22:21🔗CallerIt's set up literally with streets that are laid out with water trucks. And they marks, there's road signs. You have an address and everything. It's very well organized. But it's the most freeing experience you'll ever have.
1:22:37🔗CallerIf you want, you can bring a tent. Some people bring RVs. I prefer a tent.
1:22:41🔗AdamLet me tell you my problem. I'll tell you my problem with this. It happens to me every time I go camping. There's always some a-hole who's a couple of campsites over. It's that dude who wants a beer and a hang. And because there's this sort of communal vibe, it's sort of like, hey, dude. And so they'll come over and they'll be like, hey, what's happening? I'm just a couple of whatever. And it always starts off cool. Like, hey, all right, what are you guys doing? Where are you guys from? And then the guy pulls up a log and four and a half hours and six cases of your beer later. It's like getting to the point where you've got to tell him, hey, get the F out of it. You know, I came. I didn't come to hang with your sorry ass out in the woods. No, but look, if the guy came around who was the coolest guy he ever met, but that doesn't happen. That guy doesn't show up. It's sort of moocher burnout is sort of a little angry, little cells, a little sense of entitlement. Also may kill you with a spoon. Like there's a little element of, is this guy fugitive or something? I don't want to rub this guy the wrong way. It seems like we're getting along pretty good. I don't want to freak him out and tell him to get the hell out of here. But I imagine an entire city filled with these guys. You want to just come and hang.
1:24:01🔗CallerYou will find the most intelligent, interesting people out there.
1:24:04🔗AdamNo weird mooch or guy wants to drink your, eat your peyote and drink your rye.
1:24:08🔗CallerI mean, we're very big on being self-sufficient and being prepared because it takes so much energy to get out there and so much preparation that it kind of keeps the yahoos out. But there's, I mean, there's always that element, a little bit of it, you know. But there are people that show up and build like huge bars and it's fully stocked and you get there and you don't spend any money. It's all about gifting.
1:24:32🔗AdamThis guy just funds all this stuff himself? I mean, the guy who owns the bar?
1:24:35🔗CallerYeah, whoever. And there's hundreds of them.
1:24:37🔗AdamHe's a cult leader. How many years has this been going on?
1:24:40🔗CallerI think it's been going on about 16 years, something like that.
1:24:44🔗AdamAnd so this will be your seventh year?
1:26:35🔗CallerOh, I think it's been now like ruled out now.
1:26:38🔗AdamNo, no, because big. Oh, really? Well, you drew what you just do the mic pulled it towards me. OK, that's you'd actually you'd actually worked it like a speed bag. Punches the mic every night. Now, here's what I'm saying. I in public school, I don't know if they let you play dodgeball anymore. They certainly don't let you call it smear the queer.
1:27:02🔗AdamAnd is it is dodgeball what we used to call like soccer, where you put the teams on each side and the people in the middle and they can rally, they can throw it over and try to pin up, try to pin a guy.
1:27:13🔗CallerIt's I mean, it's more or less like, you know, in this situation, it's five people on each side of the court throwing the ball, trying to hit the other person. And if you catch the ball, then that person who threw it is out.
1:28:04🔗AdamThat's it. All right. So just red team this side, blue team that side. Let's go at it.
1:28:11🔗CallerThis one is just it's a twist on it because there's like sumo wrestlers playing against horse jockeys, AIDS victims. And no, I don't know.
1:28:21🔗AdamThat's what I, you know, I was thinking thin people. All right. Survivors. So I mean, survivor. And and what's the winner get? Or can you tell us what they get? Money. Yeah.
1:28:38🔗AdamIt's not bad for a game of dodge. No, I'm just saying. I think people would continue playing dodgeball. Like, like, here's the thing. I was done with tetherball before before it was done with me. But dodgeball, I could have kept going with. Yeah. So you stop playing tetherball in the sixth grade. I was done with it in the fourth grade. Dodgeball. I could have kept going. I could still be playing that.
1:28:59🔗CallerI'll see if I can get you on one of the teams.
1:29:42🔗DrewIt's interesting how she chose the one guy she does choose to have sex with as a guy that's unreliable, unreliable, and brutalized.
1:29:49🔗Jerri MantheyAnd now I've been having irregular periods, and I've never had them before. And they're really strange. I stopped having periods in the beginning, and then I started having them again, but they're really light.
1:30:02🔗DrewHow were you treated for the chlamydia?
1:30:04🔗Jerri MantheyIt was this one dose of, it was kind of like Ococelcer.
1:30:09🔗DrewZithromax, yeah. And did they give you anything else after that?
1:30:57🔗Jerri MantheyTo computers. Like an IT department.
1:31:01🔗AdamGood. Hey, Karen. You're 20. You got plenty of time. Plus, here's my prediction. Most people, they break up, lesbian or not, when they're 20. So you could spit out a kid, stay with this chick for another 16 months, and then be some 21-year-old chick who had an infant who was on her own who didn't have a job or anything. So maybe you don't want to put yourself in that position.
1:31:27🔗DrewJust finish up school first. Also, you want to be able to dedicate yourself to your school. Right. And not be busy taking care of a child. Maybe not. All right.
1:31:36🔗AdamI didn't want to know what happened to you, but something horrible. Get some therapy.
1:31:40🔗DrewAnd the zithromax did not screw up your periods.
1:31:51🔗CallerWhat are your thoughts on self-therapy, like people who can work through things on their own?
1:31:58🔗DrewYou can't do it. It's only for people that don't get therapy. It turns out that our brains, this has now been on, there's a lot of good evidence now of how we rebuild and reintegrate our brain mechanisms, and it is from other people. We cannot make change on our own.
1:32:10🔗CallerSo I should see somebody about my post-traumatic stress disorder.
1:32:13🔗DrewYeah, that's the only way it's going to change. You can control the symptoms, but the actual integrative mechanisms don't change without a dyadic exchange. You could also just spend time with a good friend, but somebody has to reflect your experience and show appreciation for what you're feeling.
1:32:28🔗AdamWhat if my good friend is white wine? That's my medicine. That's my daytime medicine.
1:33:52🔗AdamThe Mutilators. Everybody, Jerri Manthey, put your hands together. God bless you, baby doll. We will take ourselves a nice little 22-hour break. We'll be back with Bam Majer from MTV's Viva La Bam. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Drew loves all that jazz.
1:34:35🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.