0:54🔗VoiceoverLoveline may contain sexually-oriented content.
1:00🔗VoiceoverLoveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Hey everybody, it's Loveline.
1:05🔗VoiceoverThat's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191-DROUW, Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Tell you, Loveline, well-oiled machine. It's like a Swiss timepiece. Here's the whole thing. Let me tell you a couple of quick things. Greg Proops is going to be in here tonight. You know him from Whose Line Is It Anyway, and many, many, many comedy specials.
1:31🔗DrewSomebody asked me to describe him. I couldn't describe him.
1:34🔗AdamDescribe what he looks like physically? White guy, early 40s, could be English, but he's not. He just seems English because he's smart and he's eloquent.
1:46🔗AdamDid a little cranky anchor work for us and very funny. Stand up and a super high IQ guy. Anyway, here's the thing. There is a, here's what I love about that. Well, there's a couple of things. Let me just say this. K-Rock, the mother station we're at right now, has this thing out front that's an intercom thing and says, at night, press this intercom button, which really is hooked up to a garage somewhere in the Lake Placido area or something. It is not hooked up to the building. So people just sit there for days pushing on it, thinking they're going to talk to someone who never ends up coming on the intercom, and then I end up pulling up behind these people. I can get in, but of course, I can't because they're talking into an imaginary intercom. I think it's made of Styrofoam.
2:36🔗DrewEvery night. Every night I go through this virtually.
2:45🔗AdamYeah. Now, here's the whole thing. Someone needs to take a Sharpie and rub out the part where it says at night press this because there's nobody on the other end of that intercom. I'm not even sure that it's hooked up. So poor producer Ann has to go outside and stand out like a homeless person waiting for the for the guests to come because the intercom is not hooked up to anything. It's not going to alarm anyone to go out there and open the gate. Right. So Greg Proops, our guest tonight, had called and he's going to be just a little bit late. And well, 10 or 15 minutes late. So producer Ann comes running in. Her hair's messed up. She's out of breath, pokes her head in with about 30 seconds of the show to go and goes, Did anyone call? Did the publicist call? And everyone just sort of looks at her and then she slides her head back out and goes out. And engineer Chris says, Oh, yeah, someone called about 15 minutes ago. And then we said, Well, why didn't you tell Ann? And he goes, I did. And I thought, Well, either Ann didn't hear engineer Chris or perhaps she has a tumor growing in her head. But here's the thing, engineer Chris, when, uh-oh, Ann's You never said a word to me. Why would I be standing out there?
3:56🔗DrewHe said it when you slipped out as you ran away. I was on the phone with Anderson.
4:29🔗I think we'd all get together and try to get a security guard like we had before.
4:34🔗AdamYeah, I think we shouldn't announce we don't have a security guard on there. We should get another security guard. Yeah, because Pig Lou is just a little too trigger happy for me. I mean, he loves us, but he treats us like we're his kids. I mean, I've seen him snap some necks and break some hearts out there. Yeah, he's too big. Too big a target, this guy. Sure, he could probably take a couple of bullets, but again, too big a man. We got to get a smaller guy to miss the bullets. I agree with producer Ann. Yeah, it'd be nice to get some $4 an hour guy to stand out there and not screw things up. Yeah. All right. So anyway, Greg Proops. Proops coming on tonight and then tomorrow night, Ethan, the heartthrob from Survivor. Survivor, my favorite show. Drew will not get on board with Survivor. I'm telling you.
5:49🔗AdamThat's right. I think just zero would accomplish our goal. I went over to Seth MacFarlane's house for his party on Saturday night. It's a nice home, but not a large home. Maybe 2,800, 3,000 square feet in the fashionable Hollywood Hills. I hung out at the party drinking for about four hours, spoke to every single person, never saw Seth. Circled three times, a couple of Seth spottings. People said, I think he's in the bedroom, and then an hour later, someone said, I just walked past here, and just sort of went around the circle, wasn't looking the whole time, just figured eventually our paths will cross. Never happened. Never did see the man. Talked to every single person from The Simpsons, not talent wise, but the producer types, but no Seth McFarland. So I'll call him, though. We'll get him in here. We'll get you as the voice of the show. Maybe they'll do a character this year. It'll be a totem pole.
7:34🔗AdamYeah, not the Iceman. Now, see what you do, Drew. You slide in, do a little undermine, screw up the jaw. All right, Sandman. Here's how it's going to go. Spider-Man traps the Sandman, and then you just start talking about venereal disease or some very specific eye problem. And eventually it goes like this. Ha ha! I finally, I've cornered you! The Sandman, you're going in, Sandman! Do you have any last words? See, now, now Drew's, Drew.
8:10🔗AdamAll right, Drew. All right, see? See, Drew, you see what he does to Anderson? Did you hear that? I heard nothing. Thank you. Come on. Come on, buddy. Stop being so passive aggressive.
8:23🔗DrewBeing afraid is not being passive aggressive. Being fearful of not wanting to...
8:28🔗AdamWhat are you talking about? I just explained to you how the game goes.
9:00🔗AdamRemember what I was saying, the Sandman bores him with some talk about an eye problem or venereal disease. Got it. Anderson, please just give me that piece of tape so I can bring it in to work.
9:16🔗CallerI mean, I can do that at the end of the night.
9:18🔗AdamAt the end of the night. It's just that'll just be for me. So people know what I have when I'm up against here. All right.
9:27🔗CallerYeah, you know what? I'll do the extra work and you'll get it.
9:32🔗DrewHey, before we take any calls, ice man, we have to do what what do you call it when when people put into a deep sleep like when they freeze them, the deep they put them in a deep sleep and they froze them. That's what it's talked like.
9:59🔗AdamHe's portrayed in the Batman movies and has nothing to do with somnambulism. Yeah. Someone can't go to sleep or someone can't go to sleep. Thank you. Has nothing to do with that. The Sandman, however, is that guy. Yes. He's the sleep guy.
10:42🔗AdamHere's what I. Here's my claim against you. You do your bad add-ons, which is really. Look, I don't mind a bad idea. It's just that you're not listening and you feel like you got to stick something in at the end. You're not listening. You're not listening. You're not listening. You're not listening. You're not listening. You're not listening. All right. Greg Proops is here. Good to see you, buddy. Sit down. Put your headphones on. We're having an argument, Greg.
12:11🔗Greg ProopsI never graduated college, so my advice to the kids out there is skip it because you don't need it. I went to College of San Mateo and then I matriculated at San Francisco State for a couple of years. Wow. Three years, four. I have like four and a half years of school.
12:31🔗Greg ProopsI got a gig, you know, and I started booking and doing comedy and acting.
12:37🔗AdamYou start getting stand up work when you're in your early twenties.
12:40🔗Greg ProopsYeah, exactly. And then I went, I hate the school part, but I like going to the clubs and telling jokes. And then I starved for, you know, I didn't have, I had jobs. I had what we would call Joe jobs.
12:56🔗Greg ProopsYeah. And then then finally, after several million years, quit those and then just did comedy permanently. Well, so did you go into UCLA? Did you know?
13:11🔗AdamYeah. And then I got in a carpet cleaning.
13:13🔗Greg ProopsSee, well, there again, I can say no, Adam's a very intelligent person. You have your own whatever this is. And I'm not sure what it is. And you're a successful television personality, stroke producer, and you didn't graduate college. In fact, you were a common day laborer, the kind of which I don't let use my bathroom.
13:51🔗AdamI was not issued that. That was a very considered a lavish gift by Corolla standards from my aunt and uncle for my graduation present. And all you need to know about the Corollas and what kind of shape they're in is that was considered a very acceptable, if not generous, high school graduation gift was a decorative can of popcorn. Had the cheese, the regular butter, and then the caramel corn. Yeah. And at the time, I remember thinking, wow, score, 18 years old, got myself $3 worth of popcorn, everybody, and 50 cents worth of can. This is huge. By the way, you're sending... Don't... You know what I mean? Like, don't bother. But these are the same people who used to send me a nickel for every year. I think it was a dime for every year. What did you grow up in?
14:47🔗Greg ProopsThe Depression? These gifts are terrifying. Would you get a block of ice on your birthday or something? The fruit wagon would come by and get a strawberry or something?
14:58🔗AdamThey're really made more to humiliate than they are to reward. But let's not talk about me. Anyway, the popcorn was not initially made to defecate in.
15:09🔗Greg ProopsYou didn't have to defecate in it. No, I didn't have to.
16:04🔗AdamI don't know. I don't know if the H is silent.
16:07🔗Greg ProopsIs she the Canadian girl or is that Erika, the one I was on, 21 or whatever?
16:11🔗AdamI don't know. She's got a nice size clef in her chin and some blonde hair and she's hot.
16:16🔗Greg ProopsOh she's got loads of cookie. There's no question. And the plot of the movie is she was a porn star but she's moved next door and now you get to date her and so hey, what could happen?
16:29🔗DrewSo if you're living in LA email us, Mantinal, right now. girlnextstorticketsatearthlink.net Can we speak French? At Earth, si vous voudriez. And get your passes for the Arclight in Hollywood. The Girl Next Door opens on April 9th.
16:45🔗AdamDo you have to live in LA or could you just fly out here if you want? Hmm? Anne's got something going on. What did you do?
17:02🔗AdamNo we're not. Well I probably shouldn't have said anything.
17:06🔗Greg ProopsBy the way, there's tickets worth a lot because if you've been to the Arclight, you know tickets are like 14 clams there. This is no $6.50 matinee theater. This is expensive.
17:19🔗AdamThat's my theater. Oh man. I could fill one. Barry Lyndon I think. I'd take a long movie like Barry Lyndon. I'd probably fill one of those. We did Mexican and then saw Barry Lyndon and I maybe had like a Mountain Dew or something really good. I think I could top one off.
17:36🔗DrewLet's go to this thing. Well, you want to go?
18:20🔗Greg ProopsLittle Caesar had to get to render under him. What was his?
18:24🔗AdamDid you have to? Did you see that movie?
18:27🔗Greg ProopsNo, I don't like NASCAR. So I wasn't into that version.
18:31🔗AdamMy old thing is my old thing with the passion is, is I got this policy about subtitles and no nudity. Yeah, that to me is what you call lose lose. First off, no nudity. That's almost a deal breaker. And then subtitles. The only thing that's good about subtitles, a little nudity at the end of the reading rainbow. Like, OK, I have to read.
19:01🔗AdamGirl next door. Now that's got some T&A.
19:05🔗Greg ProopsSee, I don't want to see Jesus get his lunch headed to him for three hours. I like the other Jesus, the philosopher Jesus. I don't want Jesus to be Rodney King. I don't want him to be reduced to can't we all get along and Centurions are just kicking on him.
19:17🔗AdamYeah, I don't. I'm not into that either. It's like the whole the brutal violence. And by the way, I'd rather see a guy get taken a chainsaw to him by the undead than some depiction of an actual event. It becomes too cruel for me. Maya?
19:40🔗CallerI'm in a relationship. Well, actually, I'll be 23, but I'm in a relationship with someone who is 10 years my senior. And we've been dating, living together for about a year, but we've been dating for three. And the first year and a half, we had great sex. But now, you know, the latter time, I'm feeling kind of jaded. I've been having these feelings of, I want to experiment.
20:15🔗DrewYou need to end this relationship, basically. You're done with this guy.
20:33🔗DrewYou will explode with all sorts of feelings if you get involved in this kind of a situation. And that will then be the end of the relationship.
20:40🔗AdamYou want him to be a part of it so you don't feel like a dyke, right?
20:43🔗CallerNo, no, it's not that. It's just that we used to have, I mean, we're in the exhibitionism and we do it in public. It's more like the thrill of it, you know, not so much that I want to get involved.
20:59🔗Greg ProopsDid I see you outside of Cuban Versailles a couple of weeks ago? Because I hosed them down.
21:09🔗CallerWe'll have sex like in the car, off the side of the road, on the highway, you know, just like fun stuff. And now he's not, you know, fun. You know, he's not doing, I mean, he's doing love making.
21:22🔗AdamYeah, look, he never wanted to do that crap in the first place. It's just one of those things where you go along with stuff and you pretend you like everything when you're in the honeymoon phase so you don't piss the other person off, but eventually settle in your own rhythm. And 30 year old guys who have condominiums don't want to go out and do it on a little field.
21:41🔗AdamI mean, you got to look. Here's the thing. As a guy, you work hard to have a place to hump. That's what it's all about. That's why we get jobs. That's why Drew went to college. You want a humping roof over your humping head. That's all it is. And so the idea of banging away in your friend's parents' pool house is just not that attractive at once you have your own hump spot. Your hump dent. Your hump dug out.
22:06🔗CallerWell, I was just wondering if we could bring a partner. I mean, he said no, but I think...
22:11🔗DrewI'm just saying, Maya, this will be the end of your relationship. Mark my words.
22:24🔗AdamHe may be into you. Right. And that's why you got to get this third person involved.
22:29🔗DrewThat's right. Here's the equation. Here's the arithmetic here. He actually really cares about you. Thereby bringing another person in, he has an instinct, will threaten the relationship, and he's not really interested in anybody else. He's interested in you.
22:50🔗DrewSo you got to bring some chaos in to sabotage this thing, and man, you will. You bring that other person in, and this whole thing will erupt.
22:59🔗CallerNo. Well, my mother and my father kind of like co-raised me. It's like, it's weird. They were divorced, but I always had him in my life, and he's always been in my life.
23:10🔗AdamDo you feel like you have a little trouble with intimacy?
23:31🔗Greg ProopsBecause intimacy to me means you actually love someone?
23:35🔗DrewYou actually connect with somebody. Yeah, her thing is, oh, I love being physical. Intimacy is great. No, no, no, that's not what we're saying. It's the actual connected relationship that you can't tolerate. The closeness, the proximity of another person. Not physical proximity, but emotional proximity.
23:49🔗AdamI don't know how many women at age, you know, we always talk about guys and what kind of, you know, how they want to date around and play the field in their early 20s. I don't know how many women at age 20 are really ready to settle in. Of course.
24:01🔗DrewOh, but most of them are still going through that bad boy thing.
24:03🔗AdamYeah, that's right. That's why Greg got all the tail.
24:08🔗DrewBecause, yeah, they were turned on by his use of vocabulary.
24:11🔗Greg ProopsDon't make me defend myself, fellas, because it's going to get pathetic over here in a minute. I promise you that.
24:16🔗AdamCrazy Thunderbird character, rims on his glasses.
24:19🔗Greg ProopsI had more scooch than you had hot meals, Corolla.
24:22🔗DrewThere's no doubt about that. Well, you had neither, actually.
24:26🔗AdamWhat do you mean, Top Ramen is not a hot meal?
24:29🔗Greg ProopsKnowing that he ate from a grandma's tin sort of limits the... Can I ask a generalized question in regard to the Maya situation, as I like to call it? This whole idea of introducing a third partner, and I think we've all entertained the notion, if not acted on it...
24:50🔗Greg ProopsBut then anyone who's ever been to the Trois knows that there's always someone either sitting on the side or that something happens awful afterward. Am I wrong in this regard? It's a very penthouse letters kind of thing.
25:03🔗DrewWe occasionally get a call from a 19-year-old college student, they did something and they had fun and it was fine and they enjoyed it. But if a couple tries this, it's always a disaster.
25:20🔗AdamBut let me say this quickly because it's a chicken or the egg kind of question, which is it always does destabilize what was a stable relationship. But the question is, is the fact that one of them wanted to bring in a third person means it may have been time to end anyway. So this is almost an excuse to go out with a bang for the buck.
25:40🔗DrewWhich is the Maya syndrome. Great situation.
25:42🔗Greg ProopsOh, I'm sorry. There's the whole women. Usually it's the guy, isn't it? Or am I just old fashioned? Hey, wouldn't it be great if there were two women here?
25:51🔗AdamGuy does the threesome because he's got a boner. Girl does it because she's ready to get out.
25:59🔗AdamAll things we can masturbate to. We'll be right back. Greg Proops here tonight. We'll give him a quick plug for 50 when we come back after this. Call number 1-800-L-A-V-E-1-9-1. Ethan Zahn is coming in here tomorrow night from Survivor, Greg Proops in here tonight. Greg, you know from all the seasons on whose line is it anyway, and you can find him out here at Largo in Los Angeles, April 5th, doing the Greg Proops chat show, and also on Killborne tomorrow night with your boy, Ethan. Oh, he's on Killborne tomorrow night.
26:55🔗Greg ProopsIt's me, Roseanne and Ethan, not in that order.
26:58🔗AdamDrew, socks to Mike a full 30 minutes into the show.
27:03🔗CallerSpeaking of Drew, I got that thing, guys.
27:05🔗CallerYeah, I'm sorry, Drew, but I did the work.
27:08🔗DrewYeah, you said end of the show, dude. Let me before you go to this, let me just do something. I got to clarify something about the promotion we mentioned the last time because I didn't really understand this is that for all callers 17 years and older, we were to send out tickets for them to go see the movie near them. Oh, then for anyone who wants to go see it in the Los Angeles area, you log on to Girl Next Door Tickets. One word Girl Next Door Tickets at earthling.net. And they download on your computer a pass that you print out, bring to the arc light. It doesn't say what night. Probably will say it at that website.
28:08🔗AdamI don't care. I want to hear it. Look, I'm going to sound like an idiot, too, but let's let's listen to you. See what you do, Drew. You slide in, do a little undermine, screw up the job. All right. Sandman. Here's how it's going to go. Spider-Man traps the Sandman. And then you just start talking about venereal disease or some very specific eye problem. And eventually it goes like this. Ha ha. I finally I've cornered you, the Sandman. You're going in, Sandman. Do you have any last words?
28:40🔗Greg ProopsAt the B level of this industry, or D level of this industry.
28:44🔗AdamC minus. C plus. Yeah. Hi, Anderson, do you have that?
28:49🔗CallerOh, Jesus. It's so confusing with you guys. OK, everyone heard it except for you guys just now.
28:55🔗Greg ProopsYou mean we were talking over it?
28:56🔗CallerWell, no, I cut you guys off because, yeah.
28:59🔗Greg ProopsOh, so now I even heard the whole thing over because we were saying really funny stuff while that was playing.
29:41🔗AdamHere's how it's going to go. Spider-Man traps the Sandman and then you just start talking about venereal disease or some very specific eye problem. And eventually it goes like this. Ha ha! I finally, I've cornered you, the Sandman! You're going in, Sandman! Do you have any last words? See, now, now Drew is, Drew.
30:10🔗DrewWhat you don't understand and what's missing is the few, the few missing out to it. You scared the hell out of me. I stopped listening. I have no idea what you were doing at that point. I just thought I got to shut up and not.
30:21🔗DrewListened poorly before that. But when you scare somebody and tell them to shut up, they stop listening. And I have no idea. I'm not going to say anything. I got to shut up.
30:31🔗Greg ProopsWell, I was about three blocks away when I heard that.
30:33🔗DrewAnd so I have no idea what you had said.
30:35🔗AdamStopped listening or became very passive aggressive because you were dressed down.
30:39🔗Greg ProopsYeah, but no decision is a decision, too.
30:43🔗AdamThat's interesting. Look at you. You two over here with the IQs.
30:52🔗Greg ProopsLook a bubble level. Oh, he's all distracted now. All right. Oh, how dare you.
30:58🔗AdamBubble level. They're all bubble levels. Heather? Thank you, Anderson. I'm going to need that to play for the kids at the office.
31:07🔗DrewYou know what's actually kind of amazing to me is your build up to that was, could not have been clearer. I didn't hear any of it.
31:53🔗AdamBecause the Sandman, people used to know what the Sandman went. I would argue that most of our callers under 25 are not going to know who the Sandman is or what he represents.
32:56🔗I guess I have an anger problem right now. I snap at my three and a half year old, it doesn't seem like he's doing anything but I'm just going crazy like everything just drives me nuts.
33:08🔗DrewWell that irritability is a hallmark sign of depression, so maybe this is sort of post part of depression, if it is, it's a biological event. You can't wish yourself out of it or behave yourself out of it. Maybe if on the other hand you're just sort of blowing a fuse because you're so stressed from trying to deal with three kids, you've got to find ways to structure your life in such a way that you get adequate help and you get adequate time to take care of yourself. Because being like that around your kids is exceedingly destructive.
33:38🔗Oh yeah, I know. I can tell his whole temperament and his attitude has just changed about everything.
33:44🔗DrewAnd if you then now want to help yourself and indeed you have an evaluation to see if there's a biological component, yeah, there's ways to treat this. You understand these are the women that drown their kids in the bathtub and that kind of stuff when it gets bad enough. So I suggest you take care of this Heather and treat it very seriously.
34:01🔗AdamWell, those folks are usually pretty religious too. You're a religious gal, Heather?
34:22🔗AdamWell, look, you're one of these dumb people who's aware you're dumb, so how dumb can you be? Well, marginally dumb, I think is the answer to that.
35:09🔗DrewYou don't sound that depressed, by the way. You might want to really just focus on getting adequate help and time. Yeah. All right, baby. You sound overwhelmed.
35:17🔗AdamStart listening to some classical music, would you? Makes you smarter. Yeah.
35:23🔗AdamAnd listen, speaking of that, by the way, and at the risk of sounding mildly racist, who decided that the white people in their late 30s and early 40s had to listen to just super boombox, beatbox, gangster rap? It's like, here's all I'm saying. I was, I did this Comedy Central special last week and I was in New York and we went to the after party and it was, you know, basically the room was 96% white with the exception of DL. Hughley, who I count as three quarters white anyway. But it was just a bunch of comedians and Comedy Central executives and it was a long show. It was like four hours and everyone put in, you know, 12 hour a day and now it's time to unwind and hoist a glass of wine. And it's just just pounding, just boom, boom, boom, boom, in the room. Guys just yelling about the MFers and shooting the cops and smacking them.
36:19🔗AdamThey had a DJ and it's just pounding the crap out of it. And then here's what ends up happening. I realize it's a large room and there's, you know, three, four hundred people there. But a white guy, average age, forty three. And people are wanting to sort of unwind. And and it's what it is. They got the black DJ and we want him to DJ and he's DJing, although no one's dancing. And so what ends up happening is the music is just pounding. So you have drunk people having to yell at you with food and booze on them, you know? And so it's like everybody's in your ear.
36:56🔗AdamAnd everyone's at you again. And then they're drunk. So they're sort of spitting on your neck and stuff. And then you're sitting at the table. I finally sit down. I've been working for four hours. I eat and the chick across the table says something, but it just looks like her mouth is moving. I can't hear. And I have to like lean forward and she's like spitting food at me. And I thought to myself, hey, we're a bunch of adults. Can we just just put on put on something, put on a little jazz or something. Let's just unwind while we're eating here. Can we can we actually have a goddamn conversation like I don't know if this this happens at clubs and stuff sometimes. It's not it's not a rave. I understand if you're doing a rave and everyone's acting and tripping and having a good time, knock yourself out. But you got a bunch of white people in their 40s who just want to have a little discussion over some finger food and a couple of cocktails. Why do I have to get the crap beat out with of us with the thong song? Do you know what I'm saying?
37:57🔗AdamYeah, that's what it is. Okay, you're racist, you're old, you're uncool. No, I just want to have a goddamn conversation without being spat on by the drunken chick. And by the way, you're smelling everyone's breath and they have to get right up in your ear and it's like everyone's like, oh, it's like everything's just blurs, boom, boom, boom. You're just being beat over the head with it.
38:16🔗Greg ProopsWhose executive decision was this?
38:18🔗AdamEverybody who throws an after party says, we need a DJ. The DJ needs to be an urban guy and he needs to play the dance music, so we have to hear the thong song.
38:44🔗AdamRight. It's got to feel like a scene and then what everyone's got to do is if you want to talk, you've got to go outside now and say, hey buddy, where are you going with that drink? Put it down. There's this other thing too. They can't bring your drink outside.
38:58🔗AdamThis is at Gotham Club or some big club over there. At a certain point, I realized that everyone in the room was white and over 40 and everyone was screaming and Jeff Ross was like, I'm going to go away. Spitting a pimento loaf and a Cape Cod in my ear while I got hepatitis and I just thought, what are we doing? We're adults. Can we just have a talk? How about some goddamn classical music, make all you idiots a little bit smarter. Really, put a little nice jazz on, enlighten the room a little bit. I swear to Christ that if I hear that goddamn fit, it's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes. I am so hot, I got to take my clothes. Bunch of 45 year olds with Ivy League degrees sitting around, listen, it's getting hot in here, I got to take my clothes off. Jesus Christ. Come on white people, stand up for yourselves. You like jazz? You like a little steely Dan? Admit it.
40:13🔗Greg ProopsIt's not stupid, it's like a passion.
40:16🔗AdamYeah, I know. We used to go through it with Tara, our stupid phone screener, the three years we were here. He'd go like, hey, make some reference and she'd go like, like, I know that. And you'd go like, well, haven't you heard of the, you know, Alice from, from the Brady Bunch? Please. And it's like, you walk away feeling like, geez, I should have shut my mouth. And he realized, wait a minute, I knew the answer. She didn't. Why am I the asshole? There's something that makes you stupid about somehow knowing information makes you. I'm cool. He's Squaresville. Yeah. What's he doing? He's watching the news. Oh, man. All right.
40:52🔗DrewHey, I'm taking two calls tonight. It's awesome.
40:54🔗AdamIt's getting hot in here. I am getting so hot. I'm going to take my clothes off. Yeah. We love that crap. Oh, that song blow anus. I'm done.
42:28🔗AdamObviously. Yeah. So he's going to be there on the 5th. And you want to go see that. It's also going to be in San Francisco at Cobb's Comedy Club.
42:36🔗AdamThat's April 15th through the 18th and going to be on Killborne tomorrow night. So you can catch him there. And Ethan from Survivor is going to be on Killborne tomorrow night. And then he's coming out here. That's what we hear. All right.
43:21🔗CallerWell, my husband and I have been married since May of 2002. Before that, we were high school sweethearts. He became a sex addict when he was around the age of 15. I guess the question I'm having is since we've been married and we were dating in high school, he has cheated on me a couple of times. After the anger has set in and after, you know, bitching him out for a few weeks. After that, I am almost finding myself taking a pride in having other women want to be with my husband, and I don't know why.
44:05🔗AdamYeah. I think everybody has a monocle of that. Not that much, but a little bit. What do you think about the opposite, which is no one would F your partner with a pole, with a dildo duct tape to the end of it. That's actually worse if you break it down.
44:26🔗AdamYeah, actually the worst is really acting out the second one, which is I actually did a tour with the pool pool, with the dildo on the end of it.
44:38🔗DrewAmy, what do you define as sex addict? Were you coming up with that diagnosis?
44:45🔗CallerWell, around the age of 15, he started calling phone sex lines. He ran up his mother's phone bill, almost $1,000 worth, so she put him in counseling. And he's had numerous, numerous amounts of sexual partners. And he's been going through counseling since the time he was 16. And now that we are married, we go together.
45:07🔗AdamWell, I can see why you didn't want to let this gem out of your sight.
45:11🔗DrewWas he sexually abused? Was he a trauma survivor? Was he sexually abused?
45:43🔗AdamYeah, maybe... Is this guy going to see a therapist alone?
45:47🔗CallerYes, he does half with me and half by himself.
45:51🔗AdamI see, but he F'd his first five therapists, so... All right, so Amy, look, we don't have enough time to figure out what's wrong with you that you would be attracted to this guy.
47:00🔗AdamThey're good to their own, the armadillos. They don't like the man, but they're good to their own. Greg Proops here tonight. We're going to take a quick break. And then we'll be right back.
47:25🔗CallerAdam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline.
47:49🔗AdamHey, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew, phone number 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1. Ethan is in here tomorrow night from Survivor, Greg Proops in here tonight. You remember Greg from Whose Line Is It Anyway? And also you can find him coming up on April 5th at Largo out here in Los Angeles, doing the Greg Proops, well, Greg's, it is Greg Proops, but it's not the Greg Proops, Greg Proops Chat Show. All right, Drew, now you got something to plug.
48:20🔗DrewThat's right. Well, our show does. We are getting behind the Girl Next Door.
48:27🔗DrewIf you want to see it for free, you can get a pass at girlnextstorticketsatearthlink.net. Print out your ticket, bring it to the Arclight in Hollywood. I'm assuming the night and time will be on the website.
48:40🔗DrewAnd for all other callers 17 years and older who get on the air tonight, they will automatically be sent a pair of tickets to go see the show near them.
48:47🔗AdamLet me tell you something about that Arclight. You pay an extra couple of dollars, but let me tell you kiddies, you're worth it.
48:55🔗AdamThis talking about in general, maybe a nice little popcorn guy walks you right to your seat. You have some a-hole sitting, sitting where you want to sit.
49:03🔗Greg ProopsOh, you know, I saw Master and Commander there. And I went with my wife and a buddy and his wife. And women didn't care for that.
49:14🔗Greg ProopsNo, they love the theater because there's no screaming or yelling or any kind of activities. It's just people sit quietly and watch the bloody movie.
49:21🔗AdamAnd you know what? It's the seating is it's such a steep rake that you don't see the person's head who's in front of you.
49:28🔗Greg ProopsNo, it's awesome. And there is there's no chitchat at that theater.
49:37🔗Greg ProopsMy wife was like Russell Crowe wasn't good looking enough. Yeah, I didn't care about their relationship with the violin and whatnot. And I could see them. Well, I know I did. My buddy was watching and he had read all the books, all the Patrick O'Brien books. He was literally gurgling with joy at one point, which I rarely, rarely seen him do.
49:54🔗AdamThat was Seaman. Oh, he'd actually made.
49:57🔗Greg ProopsWell, there's a lot of Seaman in the movie.
49:59🔗AdamThat's what I meant. Yeah. No, that is an excellent movie that women don't care about because A, women aren't interested in the past. They're just not. They're interested in your past.
50:09🔗Greg ProopsI was going to say, what about the time that you parked the car in their thing and you left the thing in the thing?
50:14🔗AdamThe time you told them that your friends were smarter than their friends. That's the kind of history they study. They're not interested in world history. They're interested in your history as it pertains to them.
50:25🔗Greg ProopsYou looked at my cousin when we were at my other cousin's wedding. And I've never forgotten.
50:32🔗Greg ProopsRight. That was 17 years ago. I'm still hacked off.
50:35🔗AdamThat's right. They're pissed that either you want to F their friends or you don't like their friends. That's about it. And after all, isn't that the only two modes you really have with your friend, with your old lady's friends? Is that really is the ones you want to have for the ones you never want to see again? And then there's the one who sort of straddles the fence. Like, I like to effort with my eyes closed. I'd like to put one of those terrorist transport pillowcases on my head. They have no talking.
51:07🔗Greg ProopsThey don't like it was so boring to my. I swear to God, my wife, my I really wish I'd brought like another movie with me because I could see her and my buddy's wife just sinking into the chair. And this is the arc light. So it's comfortable. You can fall asleep.
51:20🔗AdamHere's a great idea. You know, in the minivans and the headrest, they got the kids movies playing out there. You got the like Mike is playing so the kid, the folks can drive the Yosemite and not have to deal with the kids screaming.
51:36🔗AdamWe put the chip film in the headrest. It's the male theater. While we're watching Master and Commander, they're watching some the Diane Keaton, Jack Nicholson, Hugh Grant, Joy, or something right under a Tuscan sun in the headrest of the seat in front of you.
51:57🔗Greg ProopsThey're watching a Nora Ephron film festival.
52:00🔗AdamThat's right. And the six by six plasma screen that's tucked into the headrest. This is ultimately where we're going. No more arguments about the chick flick versus the three hour at sea.
52:12🔗Greg ProopsI like some chick flicks. I sit through them.
52:15🔗Greg ProopsBut man, I wished I hadn't brought her to Master and Commander.
52:17🔗AdamWell, when we get the when we get the Norephron thing going in the headrest, that's going to take care of itself. They put the they discreetly put their little headphones on. And that's it.
52:28🔗Greg ProopsI like how their little headphones because their heads are so small. Right. I was shorties.
52:34🔗Greg ProopsWe learn this from hip hop. They are shorties.
52:36🔗AdamRussell Crowe gets stabbed with a bayonet. And you see your your gal lets a chuckle out. Right. Because something delightful happened in the North.
52:46🔗Greg ProopsBecause Diane Lane, something good happened to her.
52:48🔗AdamDiane Lane made a funny with the paint. Yes. There you go. Now we're done. Right. I better idea. We erect an island where they can all just go. Yes. All right. Let's get to the phones. Michael. Here 21.
53:31🔗DrewWell, it forms a white head. It's a pimple. If the pus comes out of it, it's a pimple. But if it if it ulcerates or if it burns or hurts, ought to be looked at.
53:39🔗AdamNow, what's the difference between ulcerating and getting a white head visually?
53:43🔗DrewUlcerate is if a crater, if a crater forms. Red in the middle, raised edge is that kind of thing.
53:48🔗AdamDoesn't doesn't come to a head. It's like a volcano more than it is a Matterhorn.
55:11🔗DrewThomas Edison. I believe we had this discussion last time you were here.
55:14🔗Greg ProopsDid you go to the hollow mirrors at like the boardwalk in Santa Cruz or something?
55:19🔗AdamNo, but I had to use a succession of them to get to the center.
55:23🔗Greg ProopsSo it's like Lady from Shanghai, the Orson Welles film. You just kept firing and firing and mirrors kept breaking and breaking.
55:29🔗AdamWell, I I look at it more as like they hypothesize that this is how the Egyptians got light to the center of the pyramid. It just kept going. They just kept bouncing it until they got to the tomb. This is how I got to King Tut's tomb.
55:43🔗Greg ProopsYes, a series of highly polished golden surfaces.
55:57🔗AdamNot pretty. But very, very satisfying. And let me tell you something. After walking around with a large carbuncle right next to your a hole for about a week, when that thing finally blows, you spring to your feet and the sound of music just starts bellowing in your ears. You're running down the street kissing your mailman and the old neighbor. And it's like you're just just hopping and sprinting. I mean, you never it never felt so alive.
56:27🔗Greg ProopsWhat was the difference? What's the difference between a carbuncle and a boil?
56:34🔗DrewExactly the same. Well, really, I think technically a carb technically, as I was trained, a faruncle is the same as a boil. And a carbuncle is something they can burrow underneath and come up in multiple spots.
56:45🔗Greg ProopsCarbuncle seems more like the same thing. Yeah.
56:50🔗Greg ProopsSlightly not archaic, but you certainly read it in old time lit a little more than you do. If you got like a Master and Commander, they would have a carbuncle.
57:00🔗AdamIf you got a carbuncle on your car seat, it would be a bad day. You get one on your anus, it is a nightmare. You understand? Do people hear me? Dave?
57:17🔗CallerI'm trying to get with a girl that I work with, but it's kind of a mess up situation. She's engaged to be married and she just found out she's pregnant. I actually have another guy I work with, I was telling him, one of my friends, well he went and told her and I don't know, word got back anyways. She wants to be with me too, but she's kind of afraid to leave him just because of the whole situation with her being pregnant and everything.
58:20🔗DrewIt's a little banjo playing in the background.
58:21🔗AdamRight. Hey Dave. Listen now baby doll, you're 20 years old. You got your whole life ahead of you. It's not a great life, but it's yours and it's ahead of you. And you don't want to get mired in this mess. This is a chaotic woman. Here's the thing. It's called Catch 22. If she leaves her fiance and engages in a relationship with you, she's chaotic.
58:50🔗AdamAnd you don't want to be with her. Really, the only way you want to be with her is if she says, I'm in love with this man and I'm two months pregnant. How dare you? So that's when it would be OK to be with her, ironically, when you can't be with her.
59:01🔗DrewI want everyone just to try to put themselves inside Dave's head and feel what it would feel like to be a 20 year old male with motivational priorities that drive you to do things. Think about it.
59:37🔗AdamWe'll set up a half court on this side and we'll play Highly on this side and we'll have some paramutual batting over here. We have a small, small track. Maybe we'll race set up a dog track. We got a lot of room.
59:49🔗AdamOh, wait a minute, Leno called. He wants to park some of his cars in here.
59:52🔗CallerSo I should not try to be with her or what do I do?
59:56🔗DrewYeah, that's kind of what we're saying. But think about the priorities of that brain. All he can think about is his attraction to a female, regardless of the circumstances, regardless of who she is, regardless of what it implies. Just can't. He's overcome.
1:00:10🔗AdamWell, they work together and she's cute.
1:00:13🔗Greg ProopsShe's pregnant and she's engaged.
1:00:19🔗DrewOh, and all he can think about is screwing her. That that's funny.
1:00:23🔗CallerI mean, yeah, that too, but I mean, I like her like more than I've ever looked any other girl.
1:00:29🔗DrewHow many words have passed between you and her, Dave?
1:00:34🔗CallerWe talk a lot now because we both kind of feel the same way, but I think right now the biggest thing they've, they just signed a lease on their house and she's worried that if she leaves him, she's still going to have to pay all this money and this and that and he...
1:00:49🔗DrewDave's not been doing too good with the girls.
1:01:24🔗AdamPretty smart. Pretty smart. Now, here's all I have to say to all you dumb people out there. You do not have to be smart yourself. You only have to be smart enough to listen to smart people. You don't have to be smart. Just take the advice. It's like reading the instructions. You don't have to invent the TiVo or the VCR. Just look at the goddamn picture and plug the cord in in the right place. Now, if you're going to be so smug as you're going to throw the directions away, now you're screwed.
1:02:00🔗AdamSo here's the deal, Dave. Do not get involved with her. This will be chaotic. And many, many a guy, smarter and many, well, many more smarter and a handful dumber than you have been brought down by this very situation. We talk to them every night. You get in, you get pregnant, you get hooked up. She starts buffing one of your friends and the next thing you know, you're twenty two and a half and your life has hit the skids completely.
1:02:24🔗DrewAnd you've got somebody else's kid and now your own kid coming along.
1:02:26🔗Greg ProopsAnd the ex-husband stroke boyfriend who may be violent and or yes, there's some other horrible situation.
1:02:34🔗AdamIt is now. Now, let's talk about this because it's essentially impulse control is what gets people into trouble in this country and in life. You know what I mean? Which is I am going for a very quick, short, small payday that I could be paying for for the rest of my life, but I don't care.
1:02:53🔗DrewThat is that 20 year old male mind. Can't get past any of these things. But you can't think past, fresh.
1:03:01🔗DrewNo, no, I know. Yeah, they have to be able to strive.
1:03:04🔗AdamAnd that is the whole thing. And if you want to know what success is about, it's about delayed gratification. It's about putting that off. I mean, that's college.
1:03:13🔗DrewThere's another way. That's everything.
1:03:16🔗DrewIt's about taking a dominant impulse and then choosing to behave in the manner of a subdominant desire impulse.
1:03:22🔗AdamRight. Now, the question is, is being able to control that dominant impulse, is that the essence of intelligence in many ways or do do did you for instance, the Jewish kids I grew up with are all successful now. Were they able to control their dominant impulse or do they not really have one? They seem like both my goyum friends that had a little difficulty controlling their dominant impulse had a dominant impulse that was bigger than both of us and could not be controlled with a whip and a chair.
1:03:53🔗DrewThere is that. Yeah, I believe that happens.
1:03:55🔗AdamYes. And Drew is a man of exquisite passion.
1:04:29🔗CallerI have been working with this girl for about three years now and she's got a lot of chaos. She's got a lot of trouble and she's always talking about going home and leaving her car in the garage running and nobody would ever find me because nobody cares about me and I'm going to go jump off a bridge. She's driving me insane. I can't take it anymore. She calls me at home before we go to work and she talks to me at work all night long about her crappy life and she calls me on her way home from work. I can't take it anymore. I'm pregnant. I don't need this extra stress from her and I'm wondering what can I do to kind of get away from her without really setting her off.
1:05:11🔗AdamVery interesting point. Something we talk about on this show quite a bit. And it's a sort of finesse thing but it really doesn't take, you don't have to burn a lot of calories.
1:05:23🔗AdamNow here's the deal. First off, if you suspect she's serious or she even really makes threats about killing herself, you're sort of obliged to alert the proper authority.
1:05:33🔗DrewA, it's terribly unfair to you and abusive to you for her to dump that on you. B, so you don't have to have any remorse in taking action. And then B, because these are very, very serious issues, she needs to get to somebody who is actually able to manage these things and care for her. Not you. Well, then call her therapist.
1:06:11🔗AdamAre you just not going to ask her for the Shrink's phone number?
1:06:14🔗CallerKind of fantasy snow globe where you live in it.
1:06:17🔗DrewWhat is Shrink's name? All you need is the name. You go look up the number.
1:06:21🔗AdamYou know what you could do? Ah, Nicole. Here's what you do. I agree with Drew, but only if you do it my way. You tell, you tell.
1:06:28🔗Greg ProopsDo you have a series of mirrors in your possession, Nicole?
1:06:32🔗AdamAnd a sharp number two pin. It's your step mom that would let you use now here's, here's what you need to do. You need to talk to her and say, hey, I'm looking to get some therapy myself. Could you give me your Shrinks number? You think your Shrinks? Good. She gives you the number. Yeah, you say you and your lesbian partner are having some difficulties.
1:06:58🔗AdamThat one's for me. And you want to get a little therapy. How about it? How about your Shrinks number? Then call the Shrink and tell them about the suicide.
1:07:06🔗DrewNow, Nicole, why do you have such poor boundaries that you felt you have to rescue this person and then once you're sucked into her chaos, you can't set appropriate boundaries. You can't keep a sort of a healthy distance from this person.
1:07:23🔗DrewYeah, I understand you feel bad for her. Why can't you set boundaries?
1:07:26🔗CallerNone of us at work can stand her. I feel guilty she's had this crappy life and I hate to be one more person who kind of, you know, has leave me alone.
1:07:36🔗AdamWell here's the problem and something these people need to know. When people don't want to hang out with you, it's not some sort of cosmic spin of the social wheel. It's that you are putting something forward that is unattractive. And while you don't deserve to be beat up for it, you shouldn't have it reinforced by having people returning your phone calls either. You should be changing. So, get the Shrinks number under my plan. I call it Plan Falcon. Yes, Drew? I give it a codename.
1:08:10🔗Greg ProopsMy God, you're a criminal deviant. I adore your genius. You could take over this city with a crew of guys if we had striped t-shirts and bowler hats. We lived in a hideout in the flatlands.
1:08:21🔗AdamAnd like blackjacks and those like mini clubs, sort of a club with a weird sort of leather handle on it that was good for only hitting people with lead, knocking people out.
1:08:35🔗Greg ProopsBrace people with them and whack them in the knuckles.
1:08:37🔗AdamYeah, do that. And then look, and I'm sure we all go through it. Actually, Drew doesn't because he's a pattern man.
1:08:44🔗Greg ProopsLet me ask you, you're an intelligent person.
1:08:46🔗DrewRead my book, Nicole. That's what I wrote the book about. The book, Cracked, was about needing to be a rescuer and how unhealthy that is for not just you, but also the person you're trying to help.
1:08:59🔗Greg ProopsWell, the thing is, you know, you go through a lifetime pattern of indulging people who are at once abusive and, of course, needy, and then you find yourself feeling guilty and then angry with yourself because you.
1:09:13🔗DrewThen you feel resentful for them for violating your boundaries.
1:09:17🔗DrewYeah. It's and then and then they'll get angry with you for letting them down the slightest bit and then you're angry with them for not being more grateful for you. You're laying yourself out on their behalf. Yeah. So it's.
1:09:31🔗DrewRead my book. You're on. It's not an easy thing to do. And then some people could say you have to have therapy because it's about having real relationships with more appropriate kinds of boundaries. So you learn and practice thousands of ways.
1:09:41🔗Greg ProopsIt's not everybody, though. It's a it's single.
1:09:43🔗DrewIt's codependency. It's a codependency.
1:09:45🔗AdamHey, but Drew. And Greg, don't you think? Adam, right? Yes. Friends call me Ace. OK. The and maybe it's because of the therapy is the only way you can achieve this. But ultimately. And maybe this is a little Pollyanna ish. But ultimately, you have to have your own sort of yardstick that you measure yourself by. Are you being fair? Are you being unfair in terms of?
1:10:07🔗AdamIn terms of do you owe this person? Do they owe you? And then make your calls or don't make your calls accordingly. I mean, there are plenty of times when people get angry at you and it's really you should be angry at them or it certainly should. It's at least a push. Now, just because they're angry at you doesn't mean you have to apologize. If you check your yardstick and your yardstick is fair and well calibrated, you might then not call them back and apologize just because they demand one. But you have to then go to bed that night and be okay with it because you trust your yardstick.
1:10:42🔗DrewWell, it's not just the yardstick, though, but what happens in a situation like this is that their pain triggers something in you. You feel responsible for rescuing them from their pain and leaving them in pain because of some remnant experience of your own leaves you with an intolerable feeling state that you can't let go of. It's almost like a tooth you want to wiggle. You've got to go do something. You've got to make it okay.
1:11:06🔗Greg ProopsIt's one matter for a workmate. This woman doesn't sound like she's really intimate with this person. It's just someone who bitches at her all the time and she feels bad for her because no one likes her and she's the run to the litter. It's another thing when it's a mate or a friend.
1:11:21🔗AdamLike I said, you just calibrate your scale every other week and then make the things.
1:11:26🔗Greg ProopsYou're right about that. People will come at you with anger when you're the one who should be angry.
1:11:31🔗AdamGreg Proops is here with a quick break. I'm going to have a good crying hug with Drew in the girls bathroom. Yes, I said the girls. I find it makes it easier for Drew to let go in there.
1:11:42🔗Greg ProopsAnd I'll be in the master and commander's room.
1:12:36🔗AdamEven Zahn is going to be in here tomorrow night from Survivor, one of my favorite shows. Greg is going to be at Largo on Club Largo as we used to call it back in the day. April 5th, am I boring you, Drew? No, not at all.
1:13:02🔗DrewSo is it sort of a talk show format kind of thing?
1:13:05🔗Greg ProopsIt is exactly a talk show format, except that we avoid the golly, you were making a movie that must have been really difficult to learn Kung Fu and go to Fiji for eight weeks. I refuse to play that at all. I don't care at all what you had to do to get ready for your role.
1:13:27🔗Greg ProopsDirectly across from there. And John Bryan is my orchestra, who is an esteemed musical mad hatter and a scorer. That's the really awkward way of putting it. Right? Composer. Right. Can we say composer? What's the Jim Carrey picture, the new one? It has a very baroque name. Turn of the Sun Sign. There we are. Whatever that one is. He wrote the score for that. And he wrote the score for Magnolia. He's like a genius. And the guy comes and does my show, which is nice.
1:13:59🔗AdamIleana Douglas is an actress who you would recognize in a heartbeat. If you saw her, she has a sort of crazy deep eyes.
1:14:07🔗Greg ProopsYes, she does. She's in Pluto Nash. Sorry, it was on cable tonight.
1:14:13🔗AdamShe was the sort of next big thing about three years ago. And in every interesting movie that came out between 98 and 2001. But then haven't seen her, I guess, started writing.
1:14:28🔗Greg ProopsYes, she made a picture that was at Aspen. Remember that show Action with Jay Moore that was on for like half a season?
1:14:35🔗Greg ProopsShe was in that as well. To die for, she's the sister who knocks off Nicole Kidman.
1:14:39🔗AdamWell, you know, the thing I like about me is 750 movies are released theatrically each year. I see two and announce if I don't see an actress or an actor in the two movies that I saw. And by the way, I saw on any Sunday three twice. Those are the two movies I saw documentary about extreme snow snowmobiling. I then announced the person has fallen off the edge of their right. Right.
1:15:08🔗Greg ProopsThat's because they weren't in the movie. Honey, you didn't know.
1:15:12🔗AdamThey were not in. They were not in. Emmanuel goes to ancient Rome.
1:15:18🔗Greg ProopsIt's so much better than the ancient Rome. Can I get one more plug-in?
1:15:21🔗AdamHe built a time machine and banged a mirror.
1:15:24🔗Greg ProopsAnd it's wonderful. And Pompeii goes off in more ways. I'm at Boston. I'm in Boston next week at the Comedy Connection Easter weekend.
1:15:31🔗AdamDo not want to miss that. Are they done with that big dig? I'm going out.
1:15:58🔗Greg ProopsAmherst. Lovely. You and Emily Dickinson.
1:16:00🔗AdamLet me ask how this works, everybody. I'm no politician, but for the second year in a row, and maybe we've got 10, 15 years of this put together, the most congested intersections in the entire world were laid out, and we have like four of the top ten in a three-mile radius, by the way.
1:16:23🔗DrewAnd Adam and I crossed three of them twice a night.
1:16:25🔗AdamYeah, not over the breadth and scope of the entire city of Los Angeles, but really within like a four-mile square radius, three of the most congested intersections on the planet, by the way.
1:16:41🔗AdamRight, are here. The Big Dig cost $700 billion to build a tunnel from JFK's old house to Boston International. We can't get 50 cents to fill in a pot hole on the 10 freeway. How's this work over here? Where's it? We got to get some Paola, some Coke money?
1:17:05🔗AdamWhen are we going to finish that bullet train that's going to Vegas, by the way? Why don't we get a couple of bucks over here in the good old Los Angeles area to get traffic moving?
1:17:13🔗DrewWe're not going to see any for a long time.
1:17:14🔗Greg ProopsWe're not seeing any bucks, man. All right. The good thing about that construction in Boston is I had 20 minutes to open the show with, because believe you me, they find that funny.
1:17:25🔗Greg ProopsThe whole city is covered with orange webbing. I mean, the whole city is covered with orange webbing, except for Beacon Hill and the nice areas.
1:17:30🔗AdamWhat they did there from a construction standpoint is bigger than the pyramids. I mean, they went underneath that. They tunneled underneath the entire town and had to go through an existing sewer and rail lines and it's crazy.
1:17:45🔗DrewBasically at the ocean's edge, too, at the whole back of the sea.
1:17:56🔗AdamWe've been trying to get the Terrace off of Los Angeles. Terrace, that's the place. Boston. Now, I'm not suggesting the Terrace hit the United States, but if they do, they got to hit somewhere. Let's make it somewhere other than Los Angeles. We got a lot of poor Mexicans and bad freeways out here. We got nothing. You want.
1:18:12🔗Greg ProopsWhich is the most congested intersection in Los Angeles?
1:18:16🔗AdamWell, they got the four level. They got the ten. We got the ten where it meets the four or five.
1:19:13🔗AdamSo your parents don't really have much of a say in that, do they?
1:19:17🔗CallerWell, I still live at home because they won't let me out.
1:19:21🔗DrewYeah. But if you were to get married, you wouldn't be living at home. I'm not suggesting you should, by the way. This guy sounds like an idiot, but it's just we're wondering why an 18-year-old would have to get married.
1:19:32🔗DrewYeah, well, at that point, you don't need anybody's permission to do anything. Yeah, see, that's the fact. But, you know, I'm glad you're listening to your parents, though.
1:19:40🔗AdamThe 30-year-old guy wants to marry you? He does.
1:19:44🔗DrewAnd you're pregnant with his child? Do your parents know that? Do your parents know that you're pregnant?
1:19:58🔗AdamThat's bad. That's bad. What field of the construction? What trade?
1:20:04🔗DrewCrane operator. Framing or crane? Framing.
1:20:09🔗AdamFraming. Uh-oh. He went from albino to translucent trash. It's just a word framing. Alright, that's bad times. He's a horrible guy. He's a racist. He's got a fifth grade education. And be prepared, by the way, after you have the child, for him to refer to the child as the kid. I used to work with these guys. Yeah, the kid wants braces, but I'm getting a new kirk or pipe for the jet ski. That's uh, that's, that's how it works. Yes. Well, then Natalie, you're pregnant. He wants to get married. You want to get married. And uh, you're 18, so there's no law that uh, can keep you in your home anymore. So you're going to have to move in with him, get married and uh, set up house.
1:20:59🔗DrewWere you not pregnant and planning to get married? What was your life going to be like?
1:21:39🔗AdamAll right. Here's the deal. Please, no homeschooling for the child.
1:21:44🔗DrewOh, I'll tell you what. I beg of you. Yeah, Natalie's got that planned right now. I can tell. All right.
1:21:50🔗AdamGo marry the guy and move out. You're pregnant. I don't know what to say. So if it's 30, you're 18. That's not unthinkable. She wants to get married. Her phone line has somehow cut out. Let me say this. I was looking at a Penthouse magazine today.
1:22:29🔗AdamYeah. So I was noticing the full penetration in oral sex pictorial and I thought I could handle that. Like I thought I wouldn't be down with the porn film because I would feel that'd be too much pressure. I mean, actually physically having sex. What age are you talking about? I'm talking about now.
1:23:32🔗AdamUndo the drawstring and don't ask and let your mind free. Free up your mind for a second. Loosen the drawstring, loosen your mind and just help me show Greg something. All I'm saying is, there's poses where the guy standing there with an erection, the girl is giving him oral sex, but she's not really giving it to him. She's sort of posing with his penis. And I just thought to myself, I think I could do that. That could be my thing.
1:23:58🔗AdamThe actual porn movie, I'm not so sure it's too much pressure, feels a little intimate. This could be good.
1:24:03🔗Greg ProopsAdam, I don't want to burst your pretty balloon, as it were. But even if you were just doing the still photographs and just posing and you weren't actually doing the deed, there will still be a crew of people and lights everywhere and makeup artists. So it's pretty much the same atmosphere.
1:24:21🔗DrewHis thing is, he won't be having sex. He'll just be posing.
1:24:24🔗AdamIt doesn't involve so much movement. But then it's got to get a little weird because they do have a money shot, you know what I mean?
1:24:33🔗Greg ProopsYeah. That's what I mean about it.
1:24:35🔗AdamThey do have a money shot. So there's got to be a point where the guy's, you know, putting more film in the camera, the guy is sort of staying there helping himself. You don't think about that?
1:24:46🔗AdamLet me tell you something I thought about. I thought about a pictorial where, see, they always build into it. It's by page nine, you get to the money shot. The first thing is they're shooting pool at the biker bar and the chick walks in. You know, that's the first thing. And then eventually her top comes off and it leads by page nine.
1:25:04🔗AdamYeah, I would like the one. Here's my here's my penthouse pictorial. First page, me and the chick at the biker bar. Second page, money shot. Third page, I'm watching TV and she's talking and I'm kind of tuning her out. Fourth page, I'm eating. She's talking again. Again, I have a sort of 10,000 yard stare tuning out.
1:25:24🔗DrewFourth one, you have the lovey shades on.
1:25:27🔗AdamI'm uncomfortable. Again, she's gesticulating with her arms. I have the eyeshades on.
1:25:31🔗Greg ProopsThere's an overflowing garbage can in the background that you're ignoring.
1:25:34🔗AdamThat's right. I'm nabbing. All the things you would realistically do after the money shot. That's the rest of the pictorial.
1:26:07🔗AdamAnd we'll be right back. 1-800-LOVE-191 Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. Ethan is going to be in here from Survivor, and Greg Proops is in here tonight. Ethan's one of those names, by the way, from Survivor, where his last name is then confusing. Like if you go, you know, Ethan's on? You go, no, you know, Ethan. Oh, Ethan.
1:27:03🔗AdamCan be found, by the way, at Largo on April 5th, doing Greg Proops chat show. And it's not the Greg Proops chat show, it's Greg Proops chat show.
1:27:15🔗AdamRight. This is this original, though, and Eliana Duncan and who else? Oh, Douglas. All right. That wasn't that far off. And Lewis Black, Lewis Black spoke to him in New York about a week ago. Robert.
1:27:58🔗CallerLook, I want to know if it's physically, if it's, if it's healthy, unhealthy, like, well, health-wise, for one thing, but also, is it, is it leading to other things in our relationship?
1:28:11🔗AdamYeah. Where are you going from here, by the way? You're already tonguing your rectum. You can only go over. You cannot go down.
1:28:19🔗CallerI haven't done it. I haven't done it. It's getting to the point where she's really, at first it was just kind of like start off slow and then she would ask me to do it more and more. Now she's like constantly, every time, you know, I make love to this, this girl, she's always asking me to do different, you know, go farther and farther.
1:28:34🔗Greg ProopsAnd I'm wondering how far anybody buying this.
1:28:41🔗AdamUh, now we really don't buy it. This is bogus. It's bogus. There, there, there are women out there wouldn't mind a little rim action. They don't, they don't ask for it.
1:29:20🔗DrewYeah. And anyway, so, but I mean, I think obviously there are potential exposures to oral fecal infectious diseases and things. And so I'm just going to kind of answer the question. It's not something that typically leads to anything because as Adam says, where are you going from there? And people don't, well, the same one wishes. Get preoccupied with this and ask for repeated visits.
1:29:42🔗AdamAnd I think I rarely bust out the bottle brush in the bedroom, but this is the time. I mean, you take a nice sitz bath with your old lady before you get down to business in the rim job world. My grandmother, by the way, and I've had many.
1:29:58🔗Greg ProopsThank goodness that sentence included both those words.
1:30:07🔗AdamMany, many, many an uncomfortable conversation in our day. My grandmother actually enjoyed sport, enjoyed having uncomfortable conversations with me once asked at the dinner table if I knew what a rim job was.
1:30:43🔗AdamNo, it came up in a meeting. She used to work at the Veterans Administration and used to counsel a group of veterans and one of them brought up rim job and granny had never heard of it.
1:30:58🔗Greg ProopsVery popular during World War I, by the way. The Vietnam vets and probably wake up in a cold sweat and she wanted to know.
1:31:08🔗AdamYou know, it's like one of those things where everyone had heard of it, but you haven't heard of it. So you then have to ask, have you heard of this to the rest of the group? So she asked me, now, here's an interesting predicament you're in. Normally, when someone says, have you heard of this X, Y or Z and you have, you're very quick to jump on it. My first impulse when she said, has anyone heard of it? A rim job? I've never heard of one. The first impulse was to have the hand come flying up. Second impulse was, wait a minute, maybe, A, I don't want her to know I know it.
1:31:41🔗AdamThere were, yes, my mom was there. And the second was, do I really want to engage in a discussion of rim jobs over some brisket with the 84 year old? So I gave.
1:31:52🔗Greg ProopsI'm glad you guys ate brisket together.
1:31:54🔗AdamBut my, my, my, my, my self, my ego got the best of me and I had to say that I did it, but I did it in a very non-committal way. Like, yeah, I think I've, you know, never, you know, give, you know, I've not been on the winning or losing, but I have must say that I must have heard of it, probably from some troubled kids at school. Yes. One would not run.
1:32:22🔗Greg ProopsThe boys on the corner who pitch pennies.
1:32:23🔗AdamThat's right. Who wear those striped turtleneck sweaters with the cabbie hats that Greg had just spoke of earlier. That's right. With the black jacks. All right. Let's take a little break.
1:33:31🔗AdamAlways a pleasure, Greg. You can find Greg April 5th at Club Larga. He's doing a show, Eliana Douglas, and Black is going to be there, Lewis Black.
1:33:44🔗Greg ProopsWe just call him Black sometimes.
1:33:46🔗AdamBy the way, the Kimmel Show's on TV. He can't book guests that good.
1:33:49🔗Greg ProopsI was going to say, I actually had better booking than some of the talk.
1:33:53🔗AdamYeah, better booking, for there's 98 people out there.
1:33:56🔗Greg ProopsI have a better booking than the show I'm on tomorrow.
1:34:02🔗AdamEthan is coming on tomorrow night from Survivor. And until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, Mahalo.
1:34:08🔗Greg ProopsI had more scooch than you had hot meals, Corolla.
1:34:14🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed in this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Ingold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.