1:02🔗
Voiceover
Hey everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Jena Malone is here tonight. The United States of Leland is the name of the new movie. Well, also, you know her work from Cold Mountain, Life is a House, Donnie Darko, stepmom, contact. Wait, who were you in contact?
1:38🔗
Adam
Yeah, when she'd always dreamt of space travel. I like to do it like a flashback to the person and they weren't doing anything that was at all connected to where they were today.
1:51🔗
Adam
Yeah, for me, I thought it was going to be a pirate who played professional football. It would be like I'd have a radio flashback and it would just be me thinking about being a pirate.
2:06🔗
Adam
Yeah, I just, you know, somehow they can always conveniently get to the part where they're talking about astronomy at age nine. Well, how old were you? You must have, well, you're 19 now, right?
2:34🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, totally. And there's that really cool shot when she's like, everyone asked me about it, like sort of.
2:40🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, running through, coming back and pulling back for the bathroom mirror. And it goes from slow motion to sped up.
2:46🔗
Adam
The movie Contact scared the bejesus out of me, not because of the content of the film, but because the beginning of the film. And you'll remember this, I'm sure, although Drew will not. It was a shot from like outer space. And it was sort of moving toward Earth, getting closer and closer and closer.
3:13🔗
Adam
But it starts in silence. It starts in dead, dark silence. And so what do I do? Now, it's one of my first DVDs I'm ever going to watch in my new home surround theater. And which I still can't work to this day, and it's been nine years now. I pop the DVD in, I hit play. Well, we got we got we got a video. We got video. There's no audio. There's no audio. It's a turn this thing on. Turn the boost up on the thing. Start punching buttons.
3:44🔗
Adam
Let me just say something that drives me goddamn nuts. The new stereos, the nice stereos, you buy high end stereo. It has a knob, a volume knob that never stops. It's a Brody knob. It'll just keep turning and turning and turning.
3:58🔗
Adam
Comfortable listening at the Corolla house is negative 18. When you get up to like plus three, you're blowing the windows out of the joint. And I keep screaming at the stereo guy. You can't just have it go from one to ten. There's got to be negative 56. What does that mean? Like I owe sound? What does negative sound mean? Like I hear my own heartbeat. That's it. I'm back in the womb. So naturally I have no idea what any of these numbers or things mean. So being plus 16 or negative 28, I had this thing cranked up to like plus 25, which is as loud as it ever. And then all of a sudden in the movie, it's not a slow burn, it's boom. And you know, stuff shaking and falling. I'm diving. It's like I scared the bejesus out of me. And yes, that was you who did that. That wasn't me.
4:47🔗
That was Robert Semeckis.
4:50🔗
Drew
The through the window thing is that they use one of those those crazy robotic apparatus. No, no, they have these things that reproduce movement. I couldn't believe this. It looked like looked like some looked like the damn machine that they built to make the contact. Right.
5:04🔗
Jena Malone
Totally. No, I think. Yeah, I think for that one, what they used was they used crane shots to sort of move into something. And then they'd they'd take that image and they did digitally reproduce it on blue screen. And they'd put the blue screen like sort of around the frame of the window. And they'd they'd put that image in the in that little space.
5:28🔗
Jena Malone
So really, minus you understand that because it actually in a weird way, it might offer you more. You know, not only do you have plus channels, but you have negative channels.
5:37🔗
Adam
Minus is the comfortable listening. Minus about 16 is where you want it. If you get to zero, it's way too loud.
5:44🔗
Drew
By the way, I'm not done with contact. I am a non-sci-fi movie guy. I do not find anything appealing about them, but this was so clever and so interesting. It stays with me to this day.
6:12🔗
Adam
He didn't like it because he watched it at home and it was sort of one of those arm twisting, like finish your peas kind of movie watching experiences where he sort of watched half on and half off.
6:27🔗
Adam
But the thing about The Shining is it's a two and a half, three hour movie and nothing happens for the first hour and 20 minutes. So, I mean, you have to be sort of captive. You almost have to be forced to watch it. And let me say this. I was just thinking, you know, it's unfortunate. All right, I'm going to take an ax to Drew if you don't shut that off, Anderson. It's, you know, it's unfortunate that people, you know, have the choice to watch movies not in the theater these days.
6:59🔗
Adam
And I know it sounds like hypocrite. But I mean, something like The Shining, great movie. If Drew had seen it in the theater, he would have really enjoyed it. There's many movies that I have seen out of the theater that I haven't been able to stay with because, yeah, they're a great film, but the phone's ringing and I get up and come back.
7:16🔗
Drew
Where, last night I went to a film where I, by the way, saw the trailer for United States of Leyland. It looked very interesting. But I walked into a theater that was big and I thought, oh, my God, I've not seen a film on a big screen in five years.
7:36🔗
Drew
Hidalgo and I went over and saw Lady Killers. Oh, really? And it was on the big, big, big room. You know, there's lots of little rooms, these theaters now. And they make a difference. Anyway.
7:49🔗
Jena Malone
Well, the original, I mean, that's like Peter Sellers. Don't mess with it, you know?
8:00🔗
Well, that's a good stage person to be a fan of.
8:02🔗
Jena Malone
But I have to definitely, sorry, you finish and then I'm going to contest the point.
8:08🔗
Drew
Yeah, it looks very, what is it that's so special about him? If I could, that does not come through in the trailer.
8:23🔗
Jena Malone
I mean, but that's exactly what the film's trying not to do, is sort of give you that crisp, easy understanding of why, of why these sort of...
8:30🔗
Drew
But what comes through the trailer over and over again is like, we've never seen a case like this before. This guy's extraordinary. This kid's got you under his grip too. It is.
8:40🔗
Jena Malone
Well, what they're saying is like in the juvenile detention sort of system is that there's usually a lot of gang-related people who are being inducted in there, and there's a lot of, you know, just pretty like cases that we hear about all the time. And this was a boy that... Yeah, totally. You know, people sort of tattled tail on other gangs and just all these sort of strange interconnected things. And this is a boy that's sort of, you know, it's just sort of like what happened like a year ago with all the school killings, you know? It's like, it's never expected because he's white and he's, you know, has a good family. But also particularly from him, he really doesn't show a lot of emotion. And he confesses to it, and it's not like he has all of these traumatic, like, oh, he listens to heavy metal or he, you know, wears trench coats. There's not an easy sort of out for an explanation of why he could commit this crime. And I think that's what's so interesting. And that's what makes people want to sort of investigate it more.
9:37🔗
Adam
Well, the school killings are the domain of the white man. I want to let you know. It is. It's always confusing when we get our colors mixed up. Like when we found out that the sniper was black in DC was like, oh, my God, I got to go back to the drawing board. I go back to the racist drawing board and get this straightened out.
10:03🔗
Drew
But even the kids in Denver turned out to be messed up. I mean, this business about the kids in the school, I couldn't imagine what happened. Long history of very serious stuff.
10:14🔗
Adam
Yeah. As a matter of fact, I think I saw this movie reviewed by Siskel and Roper. It was a year ago or something. It's all coming back to me in bits and pieces. But the movie's been around for a little bit, right?
10:32🔗
Jena Malone
I made it when I was... I made it when I was like 16. Oh, really? So three years ago. And it came out on the 2003 Sundance Film Festival. That's where it premiered. And it was picked up right away. And then just sort of trying to figure out where it fit in the format of when people would see it. And we're up against basically The Rock. And I think that there's not a lot of people who are going to be seeing this film that would really want to see Walking Tall. I'm not quite sure about that.
11:09🔗
Adam
He's no Joe Don Baker, I'll tell you that right now. Remember him? Walking Tall. Let us two by four do his talk.
11:21🔗
Caller
Well, first I wanted to say that I saw Donnie Darko over the weekend and that is like the weirdest movie I've ever seen in my life.
11:48🔗
Adam
All right. Well, listen, Lauren, you know, she's 17 years old. She doesn't know that much. All right. Watch it again.
11:56🔗
Caller
Right. My question was, like, I finish a lot faster than my boyfriend, and it's only when I'm on top, but like when he's on top, like, I don't finish at all, and I was wondering why.
12:13🔗
Adam
You get a little more direct stimulation that way. Look, I, why do, you know, why does a massage around your neck and shoulders feel better than one around your calves and thighs? I don't know. That's what you like.
12:27🔗
Drew
Right. I figured that way, that it makes, you know, the fact that you can orgasm during intercourse puts you way ahead of everybody else.
12:34🔗
Drew
That she can. That she can. You're capable of that is. Right. Nothing short of remarkable.
12:41🔗
Drew
And so as you get older, there may be more generalization to that. You may be able to do it with him on top, perhaps. But just the fact that you can't work out the intercourse puts you ahead of the pack.
12:50🔗
Adam
Oh, yeah. Like a Kenyan out in front of some drunken Irishman. Like way out in front. Just looking over your shoulder and laughing.
13:01🔗
Drew
This is how amazing, think how ridiculous we are in educating women about their bodies. That a woman that has advanced function has to think, what's the matter with me? Why do I, why only when I'm on top? How weird.
13:16🔗
Adam
It is. But here's the thing, I think we're sort of, and this is a scary part as far as the direction society's turned, but people aren't looking to relish whatever it is they have. They're looking for the piece that's missing. I mean, it's like some gin rummy hand. You're not, you're not excited or proud over the cards you have. There's still two or three that you're missing and those are the ones you're looking for.
13:41🔗
Drew
There's something more onerous going on, which is that we're not allowing women to really express what they actually are. They have to be something that they're supposed to be. And actually allowing them to speak up and share what they actually are, which is quite diverse and quite different, is somehow threatening.
14:06🔗
Jena Malone
I was totally listening, but I don't know, I was about to ask your name. I don't know, I feel like we don't really get a chance to explore a lot of our sexuality until we have a partner, and then we almost feel like things are... Well, it's just sort of what happens.
14:24🔗
Drew
You're not motivated to. A male, you can't force them not to, you cannot create a paradigm where they won't. They will electrocute, they will grow hair in their palms, they'll go blind, whatever, they're still doing it. And if they don't do it, God does it for them.
14:38🔗
Jena Malone
Totally. But like if you're in a relationship and you realize that you like sort of like it better on top, it's because also it's like you have more control over what you're doing to your body and like different rhythms that feel better for you. And I think sometimes if you can just apply that to like other sexual situations, like just sort of take from what you like, what feels good, you know, when you're on top, then you can sort of, you know, apply that to other things and that might sort of help out a little bit.
15:17🔗
Nothing much.
15:22🔗
I want to know if I can get eczema on my vagina.
15:50🔗
Drew
Uh, are you there? Nadia, listen, wait, bye-bye. Should I gotta find out what she's seeing now?
15:57🔗
Drew
Eczema is a skin thing, you don't really, but you can get overlap in the mucosal services when you have skin syndrome.
16:07🔗
Caller
Um, like, like bumps, and it's really like itchy and red, like I have on my arms and my neck and my legs.
16:16🔗
Yeah.
16:23🔗
Uh-huh.
16:28🔗
Drew
All right, here's the deal. You can put a hold now. One of the things about being examinous is you tend to be allergic to a lot of things called atopy, and one of the things you could easily be allergic to is latex. So using latex condoms may be having a reaction to that.
16:43🔗
Drew
And so you may want to use a polyurethane condom or something, and also since you are sexually active, somebody needs to look at what this is so they can diagnose it properly.
16:50🔗
Adam
I can't hang with people that are allergic to stuff. I don't like them as human beings. I've said it many times. I don't like them.
16:57🔗
Adam
And you know what? I never believe them. Like I was listening to a little talk radio today and they're like, oh, I'm glad they banned smoking on the beach at Santa Monica, and then someone will call in and go. Yeah, they did, yeah. That's ridiculous. I know, and then, I know. What about liberty, everybody? What about that one? Everyone's, here's the whole thing, everybody. You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? You have asthma? Who wants to charge $10 packs? That's not a good sign. I totally agree with you. It's a really bad sign. And it's really, it's an easy sell because, look, if 80% of the population doesn't do something or is not interested in something, then it's real easy to go, who thinks this 20% or 15 or whatever percent should be penalized, punished, whatever, exiled, banished? Well, it's a democracy and people have spoken. I've said this so many times. I've also, all right, but the point is, I get excited, but the point is is, whenever they do these talk shows, people always call in and it's always that guy and he's going, I'm allergic to smoke. And when my neighbors smoke, I ask that they, and I just think, pussy, can't hang with this guy.
18:23🔗
Adam
Won't this be nice for you? I'm sure there are people who are allergic to smoke out there. All I know is, coincidentally or not, I will hate that person. I know they're world-class pussy and I could never hang out with them.
18:35🔗
Jena Malone
But it's such a big world out there. You know what I mean? It's like, come on, how long has like, just people in general have been smoking? And it's such a new thing to put these bands on people, particularly in public places. And it's such a, I don't know, I think it's like the first step in a lot of things that are going to follow, which is the sort of the scariest thing.
18:53🔗
Adam
Slip or slope, slip or slope, slip or slope. No, it's true. I mean, the idea that 20 years ago, you couldn't smoke a cigarette on the beach of all places, which is just one huge ashtray out front of Vegas Hotel for me. And then number two that you would be getting $250 fines for it. And it's always, you know, everyone always says, oh, the cigarette butts or the whatever. Well, look, that's life. I mean, you can't outlaw fast food because some people throw the garbage out into the street. Yeah, I know Drew was had an idea for something else there. But what I'm saying is, is look, if there's a problem, then you find the people who throw the butts in the ash and you put more receptacles about butts.
19:36🔗
Adam
It's you know, they always get a little vague. They always get a little vague. But two hundred different types of poisons in the butts of the cigarette, by the way.
19:53🔗
Adam
Yes. Yes. Secondhand smoke. People crawling in and dying in your office every day. Secondhand smoke.
20:04🔗
Adam
It's just all we're saying is, is cigarettes are not good for you. They're bad for you. And that's not a good thing to encourage young people to smoke. But it's a very slippery slope. I hate to say it. When we start, first off, turning things lying, essentially, saying 55,000 people a year die of secondhand smoke. And then secondly, essentially using scare tactics and deception and then outlawing everything because people make a choice and it could possibly hurt them. Really, because you really got to extend that into fast food and motorcycles. I mean, you got to start stretching that into every possible thing where somebody could do some damage to themselves or someone around them. Thank you. Let's talk to Christina. Christina?
20:58🔗
Drew
Well, first of all, we're becoming, these are first rate problems. We're becoming a second rate country as a result of them adjudicating them. But the base of love, I'm just going to bore you.
21:11🔗
Drew
Aristotle believed that we're supposed to create virtuous people. People live a virtuous life.
21:20🔗
Adam
It's huge glasses on that cat. Good look. I mean, not a great looking guy, but he really pulled down some world class tale.
21:26🔗
Drew
I think we're getting confused of what is virtuous and what is healthy. You got a yacht and what is choice.
21:33🔗
Adam
You know what I'm saying? You wear those big, Swifty, Lazar glasses, you smoke the cigar and you got that like a 200 foot yacht.
21:40🔗
Adam
Yeah, very strong. I guess he was a handsome man in many ways. He had those Greek features. What were you saying?
21:57🔗
Caller
Yes. Things are sick and twisted from too much sun and Nazis, sex, meth and death fetishes, both of them have got these. Guaranteed not the Boria, Germany or Florida.
22:06🔗
I love that song.
22:11🔗
Adam
The first time we heard it, I label it as more of a shanty than a song, but it's growing on me.
22:24🔗
To start off, I want to say, Dr. Drew, Adam Carolla, you guys are the boss. Love your show.
22:29🔗
I have to make this kind of quick because the phone is going to die. All right. So there's a pet shop owner and he is selling ant colonies and ants. He's selling ants individually for $700 and whole colonies for $2,000. And kids in that area, they are just going absolutely crazy over these ants and it's a really big fat.
23:07🔗
I mean, no, just ants and you get the little house to keep them in.
23:10🔗
Adam
All right. Well, no, this is the Uncle Milti ant farm thing, I think. No, no. Okay. Here's Uncle Milton. Here's the whole thing. First off, this is a horrible example of Germany or Florida. Some mad man is selling an ant. She's not playing the game right. She's leaving something out.
23:35🔗
Adam
Maybe what she's saying is, is someone has got hold of these vintage ant farms from way back in the day.
23:42🔗
Adam
And they're reselling them for much more. We got to go Germany. Christina's 14. So we'll forgive her. Oops. She's a Christina. Are you done with the story or is there any part of it you're withholding? Germany. Thank you. That was horrible. You're a horrible person. He's selling ants for $700.
24:13🔗
Jena Malone
If he was selling a philosophy behind the ant, sort of like a little magical story, he can concoct it about these ants.
24:21🔗
Adam
All right. All right. Jena Malone is here tonight. The movie is The United States of Leland. It is opening in theaters on April 2nd in New York, in Los Angeles and then probably spreading throughout the country. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.
24:42🔗
Caller
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25:02🔗
Adam
Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Ethan is coming in from Survivor, who's got his ass voted off, I think, last week. Jena Malone is here tonight from the United States of Leland, New York, in Los Angeles, April 2nd. Drew saw the move, or saw the trailer, looks powerful. I saw it reviewed, I think, by Roper and Siskel, or Eeper, or Roper.
25:33🔗
Adam
I remember them giving a very favorable review, but it was at least nine or 10 months back. Let me say this before Ethan comes in here from Survivor, which is, I got this theory about, you know how, he's a soccer player, and evidently, I don't know, professional soccer player, you know how these things work on these reality shows. A guy plays a little soccer, he's a pro soccer player, and if a chick stands next to a car at the auto show, she's a high fashion model, you know, they, well, we get it all the time on our show.
26:12🔗
Adam
Doesn't speak English. Yeah. We've had him on the show many times, but we'll talk to Ethan about it when he gets here, but I think he was a professional soccer player. Here's the point, gets his ass kicked by Boston Robb, the construction worker from Boston, and all these sort of ones that have to do with footwork, and speed, and agility, and all that dexterity, and all that kind of stuff. And you think, and last week got thrown off, this guy Robb kept knocking him off this, they were doing this log rolling. You know, he was just spinning. This is nothing but soccer dribbling. This is nothing but footwork on the thing. And it just, oh, quiet, made me think two things. First off, soccer, not a real sport, and not getting the cream of the crop athletes. Secondly, you show me a guy, I don't care what he's doing for a living, but an a-hole from Boston, who's got a sharp mouth, and this is the guy, this is the guy who could beat up the guy who's the black belt. You know what I mean? Just because he's angrier than the other guy is, or just because he is what he is. This guy, it doesn't matter who you are, this guy's Boston Robb, you're a professional soccer player, he's gonna out footwork you on the log roll, not getting you into the thing, because he's Boston Robb.
27:30🔗
Jena Malone
But what if it's like a childhood thing? You know, it's like sort of like they're like kind of pro or like head of their high school.
27:41🔗
Adam
Television is his, he was gonna be professional baseball player until his career was cut short in the eighth grade. If we get a lot, I'm gonna be a pro ball player. Yeah, everyone was gonna be a pro ball player up until the point where they didn't get the scholarship coming out of high school.
27:59🔗
Drew
We got a lot of, when we were doing the TV show, Loveline, a lot of, well, Jill here in medical school dropped out just mid-residency for her-
28:08🔗
Drew
To become a model. And you talk to her and it's like, I took a biology class in high school and I thought about it for about five minutes.
28:17🔗
Adam
Yeah, and see, in the celebrity world, you thinking you're gonna do something is like some preordained thing. Well, then it is. It is written.
28:29🔗
Adam
He was gonna do it. Yeah, had she not started blowing overweight Middle Eastern guys in Milan at age 15, she would have been one of the world's greatest pediatric surgeons, you know? Well, she never got past the ninth grade and he never played high school ball even. I'm not sure how he could have played. I'm not talking about Ethan. I'm talking about all the actor guys who were gonna play professional baseball except for they never played in high school.
28:57🔗
Right.
29:23🔗
Adam
I had the black patch over the space helmet, over just the one eye. It's actually had to have the strap and widen so I could actually put my pirate patch and I have a uniform made up for my parrot. You're 25?
29:42🔗
Caller
I was with this guy for about six months or so. The relationship was rocky and I used to like knowing that I used to like getting my way with him but I make him think that he got his way. I was a good girl from whatever.
29:55🔗
Drew
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whatever that statement was made no sense to me. I used to let him think he got his way but I got my way because I made him believe I was a good girl.
30:14🔗
Caller
Oh, thanks. Hurry. Well, the thing is, I just recently broke up and I just, I'm just leading him on and I've been a super bitch with him.
30:35🔗
Adam
All right. This is why I hate people like Lucy. How many times have I screamed about this? Hold on a second. Now I'm getting going on another thing, which is this, okay, I'm all full of rage tonight, but here's the whole thing. I call 911, I gotta wait in line for an hour, even though, by the way, this is hypothetical because I've never in my 39 goddamn years called 911. Imagine, made it to 39, haven't sued anybody and haven't called 911 yet, but it's because a-holes are using the cops to screw with their neighbors, to screw with their exes, oh, because there's a domestic dispute and they gotta call them for the fifth time that month. When are we gonna start penalizing the people that just sort of use the cops? You know, I got the cops showing up my house at a New Year's party at 9.30 in the evening because the neighbors thought it'd be a good idea. Like, look, you can't just use, hey, I'm gonna screw with you, I'll get a restraining order out against you. You know what I'm talking about? And how come, by the way, we can't start punishing these people?
31:36🔗
Drew
We should charge them. No, no, you can just charge them. If you wanna treat the cops like your own personal police force, pay them like your own personal police force.
31:45🔗
Adam
Oh, here's the deal. The cops show up at your house, the music's not too loud, nothing's too rowdy, nothing's out of hand. It's 9.45, it's New Year's. Now we're going to the person that made the call and saying that's gonna be 286 bucks, please. You wasted a lot of taxpayer time and money there.
32:02🔗
Jena Malone
Or could we have just like in-betweeners to sort of navigate calls to sort of like, if it's just something that's kind of pending.
32:07🔗
Adam
I've said this many times. Let's put those pussy parking enforcement wusses to do something other than writing everyone tickets. There's millions of them.
32:15🔗
Jena Malone
Or the rent-a-cops, we'll just sort of, you know, hire them on the weekends or something.
32:17🔗
Adam
Well, see they're, yeah, we'd have to pay them though. I say get the parking enforcement guys to show up for the domestic, you know, tell them to turn the stereo down.
32:26🔗
Adam
Yeah, we need someone in between the guy who's stopping the North Hollywood bank robber. Look, here's what I want. The guys who are having a shootout with the North Hollywood bank robber should be the same guy who's coming over to your house and tell you to turn the stereo down?
32:48🔗
Caller
Okay, well, yeah, that's what I want to know. Like, I've done some horrible things, irregardless of if I put the cops or what on him, I've done some terrible things.
32:58🔗
Caller
Well, I really can't. I guess I can talk about it, but I just, I choose kind of not to right now. But I've done some really horrible things to him. What's wrong with me?
33:08🔗
Adam
Well, you're not a great person, but I'm guessing your parents made you into someone crappy and that you don't have the brain power to pull yourself out of that crap mire that they put you in. But listen.
33:18🔗
Caller
I get some sick satisfaction doing it. I mean, I think it's hilarious when he's suffering. I mean, it's not, believe me, I grew up with a great family. I grew up dying for my mom.
33:29🔗
Caller
Oh, well I've had some, you know, I've seen some things, but I mean, of course, I mean, I grew up with a good family.
33:41🔗
No, hey, ba, ba.
33:43🔗
Drew
It doesn't go both ways, Lucy. You don't have a great family and a family that lets you see some things. That's a horrible family that lets you see some things.
33:51🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, and I mean, if you were being like, emotionally false with him during the relationship, then maybe, you know, there's some like, dishonesty in what you're doing right now. And how can you say that you're just like having, you know, that you're really having fun, hurting someone.
34:06🔗
Drew
She is. This is what a horrible person does and feels. Oh, true. No, no, no. That's true. It's the case that when people have glee, glee at another person's distress and harm, that's the child pulling the, you know, the, putting the M80 up the cat, you know, and pulling the feathers off the cat.
34:25🔗
I mean, as a child, I grew up, you know, in a Catholic home.
34:30🔗
Adam
Let her talk. And by the way, Catholic home doesn't mean ass to anybody who has two brain cells to rub together. Please, you religious retards, everyone, everyone in the joint is a big God fearing Christian and Catholic. Are you kidding? You think there's any Jews or atheists in there? Please.
34:49🔗
Adam
Okay, religious home, by the way, when are we going to stop just, when are we just gonna start checking that off the list? How many times does Bill Clinton have to talk to his clergy or Bobby Brown or Whitney Houston have to go to church before we just start writing it off as a joke? Really? Well, he met with his spiritual advisors. Okay, shut up.
35:26🔗
Drew
If all we needed to do to treat the emotionally, how can I say this euphemistically, the emotionally-
35:35🔗
Drew
Challenge the addicts is get them a spiritual leader. That's precisely what I would do with them, but that does not help.
35:42🔗
Adam
How can you argue with Whitney making the pilgrimage back to the native land last year? Yeah, all right. Obviously it's a joke. It's just everyone else is too big a pussy to talk about. What a joke this religion has turned into. Thank you. All right. Now, Lucy, let me ask you a couple of questions. And Drew, you be quiet and Lucy, you got to shut up too and just answer my questions. What kind of weird stuff did you see at home?
36:37🔗
Caller
No, no. God, no. God, no. My dad's always been that kind of protective guy who, you know.
36:51🔗
Caller
No. My, my parents, they've only drank when they go to like weddings. That's it. But they don't drink on.
37:05🔗
Adam
Here's, here's, I want to get back to what you told the cops this guy did. That's the part I want to know. Yes. Yes.
37:13🔗
Caller
Well, let's just say I'm a very clumsy person and I have a lot of bruises. I run into things and he kind of pissed me off. So what I did was I called the cops and said, he kind of manhandled me.
37:35🔗
Adam
Lucy, here's the thing. First off, I pray to Christ you have no kids. Do you have any kids? Yeah. Yeah. How many do you have? Please try not to do as horrible a job on the kid as your parents did on you. That's your goal. And number two, if you grew up in a great environment, your parents are together, everyone loved each other and there was no abuse or anything, then knock it off. Stop acting like a horrible person.
38:19🔗
Drew
Well, that's the point, Lucy. Lucy, excellent point. And that means that you saw some more heinous things than you're admitting to.
38:26🔗
Drew
Get some therapy. And it needs treatment. You didn't see your dad go into rage and you weren't hiding in closets and that kind of thing.
38:44🔗
Adam
There's something very much missing from the story. But look, everybody, if you got a problem and you want it to go away, then feel free to do something about it.
38:53🔗
Drew
It's possible that Lucy... You know, one of the other ways you get this way is, you know, she gets involved with a gang at a young age and just never, you know, really becomes... Loses her capacity for empathy.
39:05🔗
Jena Malone
But don't you think it depends on how she was disciplined as a child and that it's like...
39:09🔗
Adam
Well, look, let's put it this way. There's certainly some bad eggs out there. They're just... Sometimes it's nurture and sometimes it's nature. If what Lucy says is true, then it's nature. The point is, is she's not a great person. The good news is she'd like to stop being a bad person. And I'm telling her that it's going to take a little work. And if you have an impulse to do something, it's probably not a great idea. And I would like the cops to arrest the people that are doing this stuff. And you know, these kind of situations where, you know, the wives call in, you know, Jim Brown, the football player, his, you know, wife who's, you know, 30 years younger than he is or 40 years or whatever, calls the cops screaming, he's beating me, he's going to kill me. And then goes to court a few months later and she says, yeah, I was just trying to get attention. Now, look, either he talked to her and she changed her story or she decided on, you know, that it never happened.
40:09🔗
Adam
One of them is going to jail, in my opinion, because like, look, if you just made the story up, and by the way, can we just have wives do that? Yeah, cops, the DA, attorneys, everyone showed up and did the whole thing. And then at the end it's like, well, I'm not going to press charge. I was just kidding. I was just trying to get some attention. Okay, fine. You're doing 14 months now. That's how it goes. Oh, wait a minute. You got something you want to say? That's how it should go. Somebody's going in. Either he beat the crap out of you, and he's going in, or you lied your ass off, and you're going in.
40:46🔗
Jena Malone
It's so sad because with domestic disputes, isn't it like three strikes and you're out and you're sort of kids go away after that and like, it's just the weight of the situation is so ridiculous.
41:23🔗
Adam
Ethan Zahn is coming in on Tuesday, by the way, from Survivor, my favorite show. Jena Malone here tonight from the United States of Leland. And quiet down, Drew. Open. Quiet. Opening on the 2nd of April, New York and LA. Alex, let's take some calls.
41:39🔗
Drew
Just quickly, Jena. Just look at an old building from the 20s and just see if it wasn't transformed in the 70s. And just look at what happened to it. And then that was that decade.
42:23🔗
Jena Malone
The long story or the short? Medium. I don't know. I was nine years old and I was living in Las Vegas with my mom. And I answered an ad in a newspaper because I was combing the newspaper because I was really unhappy in Las Vegas because I had just moved from like Tahoe and it's a crazy cultural shock. And so I wanted to like take this like painting class and there was like seminar on acting. It was horrible.
42:55🔗
Adam
Hold on. Moving from Tahoe to Las Vegas is like moving from a beautiful aquarium into an ash, right?
43:04🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, totally. It was really gross and it totally like, yeah. And yeah, it was bad. But I went to this seminar and it ended up being complete fraud. But I asked a few questions. He got me my first audition, which was for a student film. No, actually it was for an audition in Los Angeles. And somehow I ended up booking that job, which was just like a student film through UCLA. And I convinced my mom after that to move to LA for about a year because she was sort of in a dead end job anyways. And I was like, well, the opportunities must be more in Los Angeles. Well, actually, no, it's actually a booming culture because of all the new people going there and the new businesses and a lot of things are built.
43:49🔗
Adam
You can work if you want to restock shrimp at the buffet or something. I mean, there's a lot of employment to have.
44:08🔗
You inspired me to act and stuff.
44:18🔗
Jena Malone
That's like the main thing I would say to you is just, you know, keep doing school things, keep reading a lot and keep being just like, you keep watching a lot of film because that's, that's really where you learn the most, you know.
44:34🔗
I guess that makes me weird, but.
44:39🔗
Adam
Keep on keeping on, baby doll. Just calling from Commerce. Yeah. That's, I got the Poker Keno Pan Society, the Pan Poker Society.
44:56🔗
Adam
I'm telling you, I used to watch those commercials. The one thing that Cable and Jena, you're so young, you don't remember all this stuff. But back when there was only two or three TV stations, we had lots of horrible local ads. We used to have to watch over and over again and the Pan Poker Society of Gardena welcomes you to Gardena. They would talk about all the different restaurants and how the dining was exquisite. I was like 10 years old sitting home watching on a black and white TV and it would say, the Horseshoe Italian Cuisine Exquisite. And then they'd go, the Eldorado, you're on the French Riviera. I always remember that. I would think at age 10, I remember thinking, Gardena, French Riviera. Now you know you're not on the French. There's a guy in a bad leisure shoot who's smoking a Tiparillo and got a cup of nickels. You ain't on the French Riviera. It always would scare you, you're on the French Riviera. Holy Christ, we are? Are we sure we're not in North Hollywood? You're over in Gardena? And by the way, Gardena, dump, asshole.
46:11🔗
Adam
Dump. But Gardena, dump your, no, I built, I worked in a decorative box factory in Gardena for about two years. I built a factory over there.
46:25🔗
Adam
I built, yeah, I was a construction worker and dump, dump, Gardena, dump. You're on the French Riviera, really? Until after the broads are working at the box factory with me. I'm not sure if they knew where they were.
46:41🔗
Adam
French Riviera has a lunch truck that pulls up and there's the, I don't know that much about French culture. French Riviera, a lot of squaddy Guatemalan broads for the French Riviera. All right, we're going to take a little break. We'll be right back.
47:44🔗
Adam
Hey, everybody, it's you, Loveline. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Jena Malone is here tonight, the movie, The United States of Leland. Very well received, this movie. And Drew?
48:01🔗
Adam
And Drew can, you know, some people pick out produce by just thumping the melon, looking at the strawberries. Drew's that way with the trailers in the movie. And this trailer?
48:14🔗
Adam
Absolutely. And like I said, I saw good reviews on it, but it has been, it's been, it's been making the rounds in the, oh, well, did it go to, did it go to Cannes or Cannes? Or what are we calling it today?
48:27🔗
Jena Malone
It didn't go to France. No, it didn't go to Cannes, Cannes, that festival over there. No, I mean, it's been around for a while. We went to Sundance last year and we've just sort of been looking for an appropriate time for its release. And I think, I think this weekend's gonna be a good one.
48:43🔗
Adam
Yeah. Yeah, gotta go up against Walking Tall. And most people probably don't even, most of the people that are going to see The Rock in Walking Tall have no idea there was an original Walking Tall. Yeah. Wouldn't you say the vast majority of those people?
49:01🔗
Adam
Yes, yes. Let's go to the phones and speak to Susie, who's gonna fill us in on that story that we got from Germany or Florida. The 14-year-old called in about 45 minutes or an hour ago to tell us the Germany or Florida, and it turned out she was missing some pieces. Susie?
49:32🔗
Adam
Shocking. So what is it? So when we left off, a guy was charging $700 for an ant, and we kept saying, what's so special about the ants? And he, she said nothing.
49:44🔗
Caller
Yeah, they're actually imported from Southeast Asia. And to sell them in Germany is legal, but to import them is illegal. So there's an illegal import, but once they're in the country, it's apparently legal to sell them.
50:05🔗
Caller
Well, just cause they're an exotic species, and they're becoming fetishized by these children, but they range from being like three, four inches long to being barely visible.
50:29🔗
Adam
Yeah, it's not four inches long. I hate to tell you. Whenever chicks tell me numbers, I always have to stop.
50:42🔗
Adam
Think about women. Think about women in numbers. How old are you? Don't believe it? How much do you weigh? Don't believe it? How tall? Anything you can park that car into that space.
51:00🔗
Adam
Many things. Now you're about three and three eights there. Now you're moving to the four.
51:09🔗
Jena Malone
Well, if you think of it as your thumb, you know, as sort of the inch, sort of the marker.
51:21🔗
Adam
Maybe it is somewhere around four inches. Susie? Yeah? Well, you're gonna pay 700 bucks for an ant. It better be, you know, at least two and a half inches, right?
51:37🔗
Adam
Okay, thanks, Susie. All right, here's my thing, too. The phone may have cut out on it. Here's the thing. I hate ants, and I'm not a big ant fan.
51:48🔗
Adam
My feeling with the ant, too, is like, everyone's like, an ant can lift 400 times its own body weight. I'm like, I'm still gonna kill you with this sponge. You understand? Not so hot, are you? I'm still, you understand, I'm still killing you. You're going down the sink. I don't care if you lose a thousand times. And the intelligence still into the millions when he actually can throw me, like Adam Ant. Remember him? He grabbed people by the heel and flipped them.
52:14🔗
Adam
Oh, he did. It was a cartoon. Up in Adam, it was not Adam Ant, you know, A-D-A-M, it's A-T-O-M. Yeah, very strong cartoon ant, yeah.
52:24🔗
Drew
Yeah, I see that Michelle Williams is in this one. Didn't we work with her at the Dawson's Creek?
52:40🔗
Adam
She was the dude, right? That was the dude? That was one of the dudes, one of the girls. Which girl was it?
53:03🔗
Adam
Don Cheadle. All right, let's talk to Naomi, who's 17 on line five. Let's see what happened there. Naomi? No, I think we're not hearing anything.
53:33🔗
Caller
Well, I have a question on, well, basically, I've been going out with this girl for like three years. And, you know, it's been a secret because her mother is like a homophobe.
53:57🔗
Adam
And by the way, moms and dads who are homophobes, you want to know how to get your kid to go homo? Just be a homophobe. Then it becomes payback time for mommy and daddy. Absolutely. Yeah, well, that's how it works.
54:17🔗
Adam
You name your kid Naomi, you raise her in San Francisco. You got to be prepared for Lesbo. And I think embrace that, too. You could do worse. Drew, let me ask you a question for a second. Hold on a second. You're bi, that's okay. Here's what I'm saying. And Drew's gonna feel a little bit cornered here, but I can speak for Drew when I say you would rather your daughter be lesbian than be heterosexual and make the rounds.
54:52🔗
Adam
Yeah, it sounds, and it sounds horrible. Like, oh, you shouldn't care. But let's face it, parents care. They don't want their kid to be gay. And it ranges. It ranges from I'll never talk to you again to, all right, I'm over it. But I don't think anybody looks at their toddler and wants them to be gay.
55:29🔗
Jena Malone
No, but they raise you with a certain matter of acceptance and just respect for a person's choice, you know?
55:37🔗
Adam
I didn't say anything about respect. I just said parents don't want their kids to be gay. It doesn't mean they're gonna do anything about it or even care if they are. Most parents, 99% of parents have the intention of having grandkids and that kind of stuff.
56:08🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, he was like running from the law for a little bit. So Florida, is it Florida? He had a lot of child support. He actually was in Florida under an assumed name. No, absolutely.
56:23🔗
I'm telling you he was in Florida.
56:24🔗
Adam
Yes, when you're looking for, listen, all authorities, law enforcement authorities that are listening, go to Florida. You want to find some deadbeat dads.
56:51🔗
Jena Malone
You know, my mom and my godmom both had sort of, you know, kind of traumatic experiences with.
57:01🔗
Drew
Horrible dad, that's what we're saying. And that's why she went for the horrible guy who split.
57:06🔗
Jena Malone
Well, I think she just wanted a child, actually. I was a product of a one-night stand.
57:26🔗
Jena Malone
He's, I don't know. I mean, I actually, I don't know too much about him to judge him.
57:29🔗
Adam
I know enough about him. Believe me, we know you're laughing. We know your dad went to Florida and we know your grandfather's a bad guy.
57:38🔗
Adam
Or at least didn't do a great job with his daughter. This is how these things work. But you can't judge, not judging, I'm just saying.
57:54🔗
Adam
Yeah. All right. So now, so now you grew up, essentially grew up. Well, from what, from age, what did the god mom, mom's partner essentially come into picture?
58:22🔗
Adam
Funny the temp agency's all staff full timers. You know what I mean? They should be required to have temps work their temp agency. This is something sort of ironic about it.
58:31🔗
Jena Malone
I mean, it becomes, you think it's a foot in the door. I think like, you know, young women are like, oh, it's a temp job. You know, I can just go in and show them that I can really do a good job at it.
58:57🔗
Adam
Strike three. Strike three. Yeah. All right, so now, so raised with the lesbian couple, but did people know, did people make fun of you? Did they keep it secret?
59:09🔗
Jena Malone
You know, I think it's like in the 90s, it's a different story, sort of having two, you know, gay moms, it's like much more like acceptable.
59:19🔗
Jena Malone
But when I was younger, like I don't even think I knew what it was, do you know what I mean?
59:25🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, and it wasn't really an issue. I just knew that they loved each other and they were together and there was a purpose for that. And, but no, I mean, like it was awkward on Father's Day. It was like, who do I give this homemade card to? You know, you sort of have to sign.
59:39🔗
Drew
We believe that you're gonna see once they've studied this, that gay couples will probably do a better job than the average heterosexual parent childbearing. Would you say that's a safe statement?
59:52🔗
Adam
Gays are generally smarter and a little more together, although a lot of them, well, I'm just gonna speak freely here. Here's what you got. You got a situation. Heterosexual couples are a mess. They break up all the time. I think gay couples are a little bit better. You do have probably more past abuse issues in gay couples. So now you got two people that have had less than great upbringing sometimes, but oftentimes they get therapy, straighten themselves out and actually become better, more appropriate parents than the heterosexual couple that never really may have gotten a wholesale abuse, but never really looked into getting any better. So it's an interesting thing. And they recycle, as I've said many times, I enjoy the gaze for recycling. So AI in general, yeah.
1:00:48🔗
Jena Malone
I think it's a hard job for anyone. It's like a really huge shoes to fill for anyone is to be that person in a young person's life. I think, you know, it's-
1:01:08🔗
Drew
I did the Mr. Mom thing this weekend. Susan was away for I say something. At the end of it, I thought, well, that's it. I can't do this.
1:01:15🔗
Drew
I just can't do it. I need help. But you did it. Yeah, but that's it. That was my limit and I need a woman around.
1:01:21🔗
Adam
Yeah, and then you don't need your partner, Carl, coming in, you know, he's giving the kid camel poppers and Jaeger shots.
1:01:27🔗
Drew
I know Carl could do about, he could do about three days like me. And that's about it.
1:01:32🔗
Jena Malone
I just think it's awesome if two people who love each other can raise a child together regardless of sex. And sometimes if it's a man and a woman and they already have a lot of problems, they're gonna raise a child with a lot of problems. And if it's two men or two women who have a lot of problems, it's the same thing. I don't think it has anything to do with, you know, with their sex and whether they're gay or they're straight. I mean, I think that's completely ridiculous, but.
1:01:57🔗
Adam
No, look, all things being equal, you want the dude and the chick, all things being equal. But we don't live in that, we don't live in a perfect society. And there's no, I'd much rather have two women raise my kid than a screwed up male and female, just to say there was a penis and a vagina there. That's for damn sure. Look, I have to.
1:02:17🔗
Adam
No further than my own parents that realize eff-ups when I see them. Naomi? Well, you really spawned a conversation.
1:02:30🔗
Adam
No, this is the next one. But Jena dropped the two mom bomb and we had to go down that path. We had to see it until it hit the canyon floor.
1:02:41🔗
Drew
So Naomi, so your girlfriend's mom hates gay. And so what do you want to do? Or what's your question for us?
1:02:59🔗
Caller
I mean, it's kind of miserable because I can't see her and I can only talk to her like once every six months or whatever like that.
1:03:15🔗
Caller
I think the only time we actually get to be together is if we have like mutual friends that we like plan these secret meetings together.
1:03:35🔗
Adam
Well, wait a second. Now, why, you guys both live in San Francisco, but you don't go to the same school as when you, are you homeschooled or out of school? Or what happened?
1:04:00🔗
Adam
Hold on a second. I see if the world's dumbest callers. What do you think, she lives in your basement? Two, three miles, well, that's interminable. I guess if you could charter.
1:04:15🔗
Adam
Once they used it in Alaska. Yeah, you'd probably drop that down in the bay. You'd never actually have to get it in the air. You actually just scoot it along the bay for several hundred yards and you'd be in her house. Two, three miles, well.
1:04:40🔗
Adam
And Naomi, do you have a car? Can you walk? You take the bus. Here's my question, I guess. You're not going to be going over to her house for, uh-oh, uh-oh, Drew's thinking.
1:05:00🔗
Drew
Well, my question was not, is she going to walk? Is she have legs? Could she capable of walking?
1:05:07🔗
Adam
Well, Naomi's going to say that she can't go over to her house and that her mom picks her up right after school and keeps a very tight wrap on her and that, and she won't let her out of her sight. I'm guessing, Naomi. So why is it now she is 16 or 17? She's in the 10th grade?
1:05:38🔗
Jena Malone
This is San Francisco, come on. I mean, it's a city. It's public transportation.
1:05:59🔗
Drew
Yeah, your friend's not done. Well, either mom has sufficiently indoctrinated her or pulled her back or it was enacting out that she's not, maybe she's not even gay. Who knows? But whatever it is, she's out. She's out.
1:06:15🔗
Adam
When you're in the 11th grade and you're in love, you will find a way. You just, I don't think you sneak out your room at night. I don't care how, I don't care if your parents are the Gestapo, you get out, you make it happen.
1:06:27🔗
Drew
That's why kids are sent away when they keep doing these things. Because they keep doing it.
1:06:36🔗
Jena Malone
But maybe, you know, maybe you guys need some time to sort of like, I mean, if you've been in this relationship for like three years, then I think it's a really, really good thing that you guys have a little separation. You're, oh, you know, it's the end of high school. You're gonna be out going out into the world.
1:06:47🔗
Adam
She needs the truth. She ain't into you, Naomi. Well, you know that, don't you, on some level?
1:06:56🔗
Adam
Well, when's the last time you guys were together? You spoke a week ago? And when's the last time you were physically together?
1:07:11🔗
Adam
Oh, that's a lifetime, by the way, when you're in the 11th grade. It's over, baby doll.
1:07:28🔗
Drew
No, not or something. Cause she would be telling you every little detail of what the something was.
1:07:47🔗
Adam
Okay, all right. So Naomi is a little bit thick, so here's the thing, please. Haven't seen her in three weeks, and by the way, that three weeks could easily be four or five weeks. She lives a couple of miles away, they're not seeing each other, they can't talk. It's over. She ain't into you. It's fine. It happens. It happens all the time. You just, you got to know it. And people are not going to send over a declaration that they're breaking up with you. They'll take the path of least resistance. I mean, it's much easier. We've all been on the winning end and the losing end of this to not sit down with the person, look them in the eye and explain to them why you can't see them again.
1:08:33🔗
Adam
And if you ain't going to the same school, it's real easy. All you got to do is not return a couple of phone calls and then say, mom said, and that's about it.
1:08:41🔗
Jena Malone
But I would just hope because if they had, you know, they've been together since they were 13, it obviously started in some sort of friendship, you know. And that, you know, it's really easy to be attracted to your friends and it's sort of maybe progressed to something else and, you know, one was more into it than the other. And I just hope that they can retain at least a friendship, you know.
1:09:03🔗
Adam
I'm just saying if Naomi and her try to be friends at this point, Naomi's going to say anything.
1:09:10🔗
Adam
Down the road. Although you'll probably find like we all and Jena, you will soon to do that a lot of people you hung out with in high school with is mainly because they sat next to you or you find not quite as much in common with these folks as you thought. My mom brought over. My mom hangs on to everybody I knew when I was eight and, you know, it's always like, hey, so-and-so's back in town. They got it. And I'm like, I saw them. I was in the third grade and seen them. They're great. They want to see you. We're coming over. You know, it's always like I never have the heart to say anything. And there's nothing wrong with the people. It's just I haven't seen them in 30 years. It's always but it's like there's this thing that well, because you knew them. Here's why you're friends with people. You first off, it's a it's a cosmic crapshoot that they that your neighbor ends up being your best friend. Coincidentally, oh, my best friend. I never know. That's the closest person to you. Your best friends in your high school, your best friend. You marry the you know, your sweetheart from high school. I'm sorry to say, but it's all about proximity. Doesn't mean they can't be good people. But later on in life, when you get some wheels and you get out on your own and you do a little traveling, then you really find your friends because it's not about proximity anymore.
1:10:33🔗
Jena Malone
I have one friend that I've retained from high school and I went to high school in New York and I only went to one year of high school. Then I moved to LA and I'm in Tahoe and and so but we still maintain our friendship and we're actually still quite good friends.
1:10:45🔗
Jena Malone
If anything, it's strength and strengthens it if you are going to retain the friendship.
1:10:49🔗
Adam
Ten percent of those people are your actual will make it into adulthood. One out of ten of those guys is going nine out of ten are they're going the way the dodo drew the way of the dodo, which is gone the way the dodo that coincidentally the saying the way of the dodo is gone the way the dodo. All right, Jena Malone here tonight. Do you agree, engineer Chris? You never knew about the way the dodo, did you? I will show you the way it doesn't know what a dodo is. There's no greater argument for the way the dodo gone the way the dodo. Chris, you know what a dodo is?
1:11:40🔗
Adam
We'll be right back. Chris was too busy beating off to the Matrix 3 to watch Master and Commander. We got to take a break. We'll be right back. Hey there, buddy, Loveline. I'm Adam. Phone number, 1-800-L-O-V-E-1-9-1, Jena Malone in here tonight. She has got herself a little movie out, or it's gonna be out in a couple of days, called The United States of Leland, and it's heavy, but it's got a great cast in it, and Cheetal, Ryan Gosling, and Chris Klein is somewhat underrated, I think, because he does some, he's done a handful of these teen movies and stuff, but he's really good, like-
1:12:42🔗
Adam
Yeah, he was great in election. Election, thank you Anderson. Election was a great movie. I don't know why. It was just really good. I don't know if Drew's seen it or not.
1:12:57🔗
Adam
Just good, and if you try to tell people why it was good, or even explain it, it doesn't sound like much, and you kinda go, eh, sounds boring, or slice of life, no thanks. But great performances, slice of life, very compelling. As soon as it starts, you're drawn in.
1:13:13🔗
Jena Malone
Totally, I mean, it's like set in a high school, and it's actually, there's a lot of truth in it. It's quite humorous, like life is. So I just love to see when young people are actually kind of portrayed accurately, because usually they just fill you with a bunch of BS, and I'm like, I don't even know these people, and they're supposed to be portraying my age, and my circumstances that I've gone through.
1:13:34🔗
Adam
Well, it was nice in election that Chris Klein, who was this sort of the jock, was nice. And as a former jock who hung around with the football a-holes most of the time, we never picked on anybody, picked on each other. Wasn't like we'd go out on geek patrol or something. They didn't even, here's the whole thing about the cool football guys, they didn't even talk to the nerdy people. Not because they were snobs, like they didn't know them. They were trying to get laid and trying to get drunk.
1:14:04🔗
Drew
Well, now that you've got to realize that the football guys are just as self-conscious and uncomfortable as the nerds, just a different form.
1:14:12🔗
Adam
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, most of them, they just didn't bother, it wasn't like you hated smart people because they were smaller and smarter. It wasn't, I've never seen a movie, a high school movie that had jocks that weren't cruel to the underlings. And I liked the idea that Chris Klein was a jock who didn't do it. What?
1:14:41🔗
Adam
He was a Robin Hood of abuse. If someone was weak, he would leave Malone. If someone thought they were strong, that would rile him and he would go after them. And then me. Stephanie? You're 17?
1:15:03🔗
Caller
Oh, that's like one of my favorite movies, by the way. And I just want to know, first of all, how is it working with Hayden Christensen? He's like, I think he's one of the best looking guys.
1:15:13🔗
Caller
Like ever. And I just want to know what it was like working with him and like kissing him and stuff.
1:15:28🔗
Jena Malone
It was, it was really, I mean, he's a really down-to-earth, really like awesome guy. You know, he was sort of coming in, surrounding this, all this Star Wars clout around him. And I had really just, it didn't affect him at all, you know, but he was really hard working. You know, we had, the majority of the scenes that I had was with him. And I just remember it was like kind of a joy coming to set cause he was like overly on top of it and just, you know, giving 120%. And yeah, and it was, it was fun. We had a shower scene together. It was, it was strange. You're in a sound studio that's got this false bathroom that's got, you know, a movable third wall. And you're there with like, you know, basically these nude colored underwear and stickers on your nipples and you're standing in front of, you know, like a room of, you know, 20 big guys moving equipment and you're trying to have a very intimate scene and it's just awkward. Hot water? It was, it was hot in the beginning. And then they ran out of hot water and it was cold for the rest of the time. And yeah, it was not so good.
1:16:31🔗
Adam
The pasty, the pasty thing is a strange sort of ritual of this culture. I know it's a, maybe a necessary evil, but it is really strange. I've actually done things that involved pasties myself, not being on the winning end of the pasties, but essentially take band-aids and stick them over the woman's nipples. Those large square band-aids.
1:16:53🔗
Jena Malone
I mean, I guess it's, for me, it was more of like a comfort issue, you know, like I had to have my back bare and I didn't want to have like duct tape on my chest. So I just like put these things on, but it's really like when you're at that point, it really doesn't matter whether you see your nipples or not.
1:17:13🔗
Jena Malone
But if you're like a 17 year old girl, I understand it, but like, I don't know.
1:17:17🔗
Adam
No, I mean, look, I would go for it too, but I'm just saying, it's a strange ritual that we see fit. You're already naked.
1:17:37🔗
Caller
Like I'm 17 and I already have like D size, like cup, broad breast. And they're really big. And like, like I'm pretty normal weight, like pretty. I mean, I'd say I'm pretty thin, I guess. And like, it's kind of just out of proportion. And I'm like really, really self-conscious about like the way I look. Cause I feel like it brings like too much tension.
1:18:22🔗
Jena Malone
Sounds perfectly normal. I mean, the strange thing about breasts is that for young girls, they're always an issue. Like I've grown up with absolutely none and I've always felt awkward and strange. And I know girls that have a huge breasts and they feel awkward and strange. So it's like this thing where you can never find the middle ground because it's kind of forced upon by others opinions of your body. So I don't know, I just think like you just kind of have to, I don't know, accept it, like find the bras that you feel comfortable in, like find the clothes you feel comfortable in and just rock it, you know? Because like in 10 years, you're going to be totally stoked.
1:19:00🔗
Adam
Well, look, hold on a second. I'm glad you bring this point up because this is another one of those things. Women with very small breasts complain and women with large breasts complain.
1:19:10🔗
Drew
And all the way between. It's very rare to have some women that are satisfied with their breasts.
1:19:16🔗
Adam
Right, I'm just saying, you know, you're trying to explain this to an alien. Well, the people, it's like saying, well, guys with huge penises complain and guys with small penises complain. No, no, no. Here's how it works with guys. Guys with small penis complain. Guys with medium penis complain marginally less. The guys with the huge penis do no complain.
1:19:35🔗
Adam
It's actually out. It's out. Their eulogies, it's out. You understand? It's out in christenings, in apartments, funerals. It's brought out. It's brought out, excuse me, it's brought out. This is why women, you can't figure them out. Guys, you can figure out small penis complain, big penis, shut your hole. And if his mouth is moving about his penis, he's bragging about the size of it. Women can feel self-conscious about anything and I keep trying to explain this to every woman who calls and says, oh, I'm too big or the woman who calls and says, I'm too small. I want to get them enlarged. Guys, guys don't even, women obsess more about it than guys do. Now, now here, let me say this. And I like a big set of cans. That's me. That's who I am. I believe it makes me, I'm more heterosexual than Drew though. Ironically, Drew, very passionate, passionate man, exquisite. You're looking at, look at Drew. You're looking at a passionate man. Exquisitely. He's heaping with passion. Heaping.
1:20:41🔗
Adam
Ooze, oozes. Oh, yes. Runs right down his leg. All right. His sock absorbs his passion. Okay. Now here's what-
1:20:49🔗
Adam
Can actually look at your sock. See if it was laden with passion. You can wring the passion out of that sock. And he dresses to the left.
1:20:58🔗
Adam
All right. Here's all, here's all I'm saying. Women say that it is it is men that have foisted this breast obsession upon upon them. It's not guys at all. Because the thing is, is I know tons of heterosexual guys. They can't agree on what size boobs they like.
1:21:20🔗
Adam
They like boobs in general. They don't like the huge ones. I'm the only guy like that. And by the way, you know, because when you're the only guy in the room who's going, hey, I'm into this, you know that everyone else isn't into it. Guys don't. Don't. Drew doesn't like the big boobs. Bouncy. Not as a passionate man focuses on the vagina. Not a boo man. Is that that passion? Point is, is it is not guys who says we need the huge jumbo can, you know, implants and the big D cups and all the triple D's and all that guys.
1:21:49🔗
Jena Malone
Look at all the supermodels, all the guys that I was going to say, like what magazines do you read? Like, do you read a lot of fashion?
1:21:57🔗
Adam
She hung up. But yeah, look, look, look. Well, she has the big ones. But what I'm saying is, is all the guys that are on everyone's sort of hot list, whatever, whoever the, I don't know, Christina Aguilera, whoever, whoever it is, whoever the models are, whoever the pop sensations are, usually modestly, chest or intermediate.
1:22:17🔗
Drew
And what women complain about when they have large breasts is that the guys' eyes stay on them.
1:22:22🔗
Drew
And that's something they, they can't help. It's not like they're willfully trying to look down, not look at your eyes. They just, their, their eyes are sort of drawn down.
1:22:30🔗
Drew
And then, and then the other thing, but it's the more significant thing that, which they complain about more is that other women shunned them, that they're shunned by women who somehow are threatened by them or, you know, make, belittle them and make them feel like, yeah, that's, that's mostly other women that really make things uncomfortable.
1:22:46🔗
Adam
Here's the bottom line. And I've explained this and again, no one, no one, no one believes me, but guys, especially in high school and beyond are, are visually oriented. And there's a lot of guys that like a beautiful set of eyes and a beautiful face and a beautiful ass and somehow those guys are noble and the guys who like a nice set of boobs, well, something's wrong with them. Well, look, neither one of them has anything to do with the person's personality or what's inside or their aura, their spirit, nothing. Guys are based. Now, if you see a very classically beautiful woman who's slender and, and, and small chested and a guy's interested in her, well, he's only interested in her because she has beautiful eyes and a cleft in her chin, you know? I mean, it's all a physical attraction.
1:23:30🔗
Drew
And we've got some functional MRI studies came out last week that showed that men, not women, men's amygdala's light up, which is a monitoring unit for novelty. The amygdala lights up and throws information back to the hypothalamus causing hunger, sexual hunger drive. Women do not, they get arousal, but not the drive that men get from visual cues.
1:23:51🔗
Adam
All right, all I'm saying is, is girls, please, small chested, large chested, just get over yourself and move forward. Guys will be, a certain section of guys will be interested in you, a certain won't, a certain will notice your chest, a certain won't care.
1:24:07🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, your body is perfect for what you have and like what you are and that's awesome. And if you are comfortable with your body, that's even more sexier and awesome, you know?
1:24:15🔗
Adam
That's right. We don't care about that, but yes, it sells magazines, guys don't care. We'd like women who had low self-esteem actually in hot bodies rather than women that had bad bodies and felt good about that. Yes, Drew? Easier pickings.
1:24:31🔗
Adam
We don't care about how you feel about yourself. And by the way, we don't care if you feel sexy. We'll decide whether you're hot or not. I'll just be as for they go, hey, if you feel it's always these stupid supermodels are talking to these fat chicks in the audience. If you feel sexy, then you're sexy. Well, maybe once you just feel like you're the president or the ambassador or seven foot tall guys will tell you what they're sexy.
1:24:52🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, but once all the clothes and the makeup come off and they're not and they're still not comfortable in their own skin in their own skins, then what's then what's what's sort of sexy or appealing about that when they're sort of awkward and well, they're hot.
1:25:04🔗
Adam
This is this is how guys work. Now. Now you hang out with some BS. You know, actor artists, guys who don't admit to this, but this is the truth. This is the God's honest. It's all about physicality. It's like, hey, it's great if you got a healthy self esteem. We don't want some chick burner self a cigarette butts because she feels bad about herself. But really, this whole supermodel thing where super smoking chicks tell doggy chicks that you can you can be sexy to just feel sexy. Ridiculous. No, it's not going to work.
1:25:33🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, but they're talking about feeling sexy for themselves. And you're talking about being sexy for you for the exterior male. And I think it needs to start from themselves before they can even approach you.
1:25:43🔗
Adam
So now that who cares what they think about themselves, though, I mean, they don't. It's not going to help. They want to they want to attract men. That's why they want to be sexy. I know there's that they do it for themselves, but they only do it for themselves so that they can get guys. No one cares about how you feel about you. You don't need to feel sexy for yourself. Like I'll beat off anyway. I don't care what I look like. I know I'm a mess. Still going at myself that that much harder, by the way. You know what I'm saying? The aggressive, aggressive street style. Oh, yes. The angry, the angry, the vengeful whack. Yeah, I'm a mess. No problem. All right. Let's take a break. Drew is a passionate man. He can't understand my passion for myself.
1:26:29🔗
Adam
I'm a mess. Jena Malone here. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. Loveline. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline, I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, Jena Malone here tonight. The United States of Leland, named her movie, coming out in New York and Los Angeles, April 2nd. That's right. Drew was telling me off the air that somebody called him at home and blah, blah, and the cha-cha. And he was pout about it. And I received a call from one of my friends, family man, a couple of kids. Yeah, got the timestamp on the phone message machine Sunday morning. I called at 823. And here's the guy like, well, first off, see, once people have kids, they just start getting up at 7 in the morning on a Sunday. And then it's like, well, I've been up for an hour and 15 minutes, time to get on the blower. I call my single Hollywood friend, Adam, over here with the no kids on a Sunday, by the way. Sunday, 823. And then I like to be wilded. Well, I thought I was going to catch you before you headed out, but I guess you're not around. So I'll try to catch you. Yeah, that's what I do on Sunday.
1:28:05🔗
Adam
I get up at 930 on Wednesday, Sunday. I might go till noon. Please. That's amazing. I find that amazing. I'm not angry. I don't pick up the phone. It doesn't ring. I just like the part where I guess you're asleep, you're not picking up. It's like, I guess you hit it.
1:28:29🔗
Adam
All right. My dad who goes to bed at seven o'clock at night, it's like, I want to get together for dinner. What time? 4.30, 4.45. It's still light. Yeah, that's when I eat dinner. Well, you go to bed at eight o'clock at night, you got to eat dinner at four.
1:28:49🔗
Adam
Jay? All right. We are going to recoup our, and by the way, our Germany or Florida goes down as a victory for us. We did get Germany.
1:28:58🔗
Drew
You got it. And on the heels of that, we predicted that Jenna's dad was living in Florida.
1:29:30🔗
Caller
All right. This is a Germany or Florida that you especially are going to appreciate, Adam.
1:29:39🔗
Caller
Things are sick and twisted from too much sun and Nazis. Sex, meth and death fetishes. Both of them have got these. Guaranteed not the Borya, Germany or Florida. All right. I'm gonna get my radio station to cut a song for you guys and I'll send it out with some smoked almonds.
1:30:04🔗
Caller
You're gonna really appreciate this one, Adam, cause you've made a similar argument. Violinists in an orchestra are suing the rest of the orchestra because they play more notes than anyone else for a given song, but they get paid the same per hour.
1:30:17🔗
Adam
Right. This is my argument for this show. I should get paid more than per hour. I understand that.
1:31:22🔗
Adam
Yeah, yeah. But they play like, yeah, they play like the wash tub and stuff like that.
1:31:30🔗
Adam
They're tough thumpers. Hey, Jay. Yo. Thanks, we're going to send you out a windbreaker.
1:31:51🔗
Adam
Well, no, but you know, it was funny and no disrespect to Jenna, but she's a rookie to the Germany or Florida game and it's still batting 500, got to win. Got one win on her belt, 50-50. But here's my point. I don't know, I hear symphony, I just think, I think Germany. But then the suing part.
1:32:08🔗
Jena Malone
Yeah, but I would think in Germany, it's more like considered like, sort of like this classical art form that people can't really mess with. So they wouldn't be like allowed to be like, oh, well I should get more. There's not as, you know, like it's-
1:32:19🔗
Drew
There's all different kinds of forms of symphonies. All symphonies, operas and operas and operas and-
1:32:39🔗
Caller
So I know there's nothing wrong with me. So what's up? Why can't I meet anybody? 877-889-DATE.
1:32:58🔗
Adam
1-800-LOVE-191. There you have it. A very fascinating show with Jena Malone. You can see the movie, The United States of Leland, which is coming out in just a couple of days on April 2nd, New York and Los Angeles. And then Friday. Is that just coming? Really, it's Friday? What the hell are we? We're in the 28th. It's Friday. How many days we got? 31 in this thing? Oh, really?
1:33:50🔗
Caller
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