1:16🔗AdamI heard you complaining about it when I came in, but I also knew that you had to get up at 3 a.m. This morning. Although, Drew, Dr. Drew claims to go to bed by 1230.
1:35🔗AdamAnd here was the math that I would do with Dr. Drew, though he stood by his 1230 guns, which is, the show ends at midnight, although not really, because I'm usually yammering until about 1201. 25, 50 seconds. Yeah, I mean, we go a minute and a half to two minutes after midnight every night. Drew lives and has lived a solid, well, with no traffic, and there's not too much at the time we're traveling. What seems to be 20 minutes and change, 22. 22. Normal driver. Well, my dad would still be driving on his first commute, his first night here. He would actually still be on the road. You know, when they settled the west and the wagon trains would leave the east, that's how long it would take for my dad to still be on the road. But Drew drives like a maniac, and rightfully so. He's a doctor. He can get there about 22, 23 minutes. Now I'm still doing that math, which is that puts us about 1225, possibly 1226. But Drew stood by his guns that he is asleep at 1230. How do you have time to beat off?
3:03🔗DrewAnd then dive into bed. And what I told you was, I go out around 12, I don't remember hitting the bed at night. I cannot remember hitting the bed. I'm like, it's crazy, isn't it?
3:15🔗DrewNow, well, the reason it's 12.40 now is I let the dogs out at night now. So it's five minutes with the dogs.
3:22🔗AdamBut the fact that at least you can get to bed in the 12s when you got to do these crazy hour things is a plus because.
3:32🔗DrewOh yeah, I know, as God is my witness, I rarely, rarely see 12.50. I mean, that would be like something more weird night.
3:40🔗AdamNow, now I don't see 12.50 because I'm not five o'clock. I'm in the bathroom or I'm pouring myself another glass of wine. But but here's the thing. Yeah, when you got to do these ungodly things, like when we got to, you know, leave for LA. X, catch a seven a.m. flight somewhere and the car's picking you up at five fifteen and stuff. My minimum is two a.m. So I whenever I got to do Stern or something like that, it's two a.m. to three fifteen. Yeah, it's a two a.m. to whatever. That's my jumping off point. And so what? You go to bed at twelve thirty and you get up at four four o'clock or you go to bed at two and you get up at four o'clock. You're still you're still left. You're aft, but it is a hundred percent more sleep almost or seventy five percent. Or depending on how you whack it up, it's a difference between aft and then the penis turning in your a or just a straight effing. I get the turning. I get the barbed penis with the twist twist. But anyway, Drew goes to bed at twelve thirty, twelve forty, twelve forty, twelve forty. Gets up at three fifteen through today.
4:47🔗DrewThe car took me out of there at three twenty, three twenty.
4:50🔗AdamThe car takes him out. And got to do Good Morning America.
4:55🔗DrewYeah. So that is the view from the satellite place. So thank God I got to go to New York. But here's the beauty of television. We want you there at four because we think we're going to air it. You know, it's scheduled right now for seven thirty seven. We think we might put it on at seven oh two. Yeah. So seven. So I get there at five minutes to seven or whatever. Quarter to four. Put it right up on. Sitting there. And what do you guys think? Seven o'clock? No. Seven thirty. No. Eight o'clock. Eight fifteen.
5:35🔗AdamIt's it's like your phone could ring at four thirty in the morning. You'd pick up the phone. Hello. We sleep and do it. No. Well, what's going on? Listen, I got I hate to bother you, but I got some problems. You could talk somebody through a suicide.
5:49🔗AdamYou know, divorce, a suicide attempt, drug addiction. Talk for an hour and 50 minutes. Hang the phone up. I wake up next morning. That's some sort of vague recollection. Rick Cole.
6:00🔗AdamI had a dream. I had a dream. You can get up, put makeup on, sit in front of a camera, answer questions, do a whole satellite media tour, get back, go back to bed as the sun's coming up, wake up at 930 in the morning and be like, I wonder what happened. Wait a minute, I'm wearing black socks and there's makeup all over the pillow. I wonder what happened. Maybe maybe I banged a transvestite. What happened? You become like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. You go out of town, you kill people, you come back, there's a little there's flesh under your fingernails. You're not sure. But you know, something bad, something horrible. But you don't feel right.
6:57🔗DrewAs of today, I guess. Although she actually see me.
6:59🔗AdamWhat do you speak on? What they want you for?
7:01🔗DrewThey Mel Gibson did an interview with her on Sunday night or Monday. But that's the other thing about being up. Anyway, that talking about this new movie about Jesus Christ that he made. And he was talking a lot about his addiction. And he was apparently a severe addict. And the specular he was people are speculating that some of this new sort of spiritual preoccupation is the result of his recovery.
7:24🔗AdamShocking. Well, that's the other thing, too, when people become addicts, they like to they like to kind of mix it up with a lot of stuff. Like I talked to him. I mean, I heard him. I heard him talking to a dancer or a clip or whatever. They always do this thing. They go, oh, listen, man. I mean, you name it. I'm into it.
7:50🔗AdamYou know, they always sort of pad it down with three or four. It was really the heroin. That was the real problem. That's the problem. The diet soda, the TiVo, the computer games, the coffee, all things, even cigarettes, all things you could have lived 50 years with. It was really the heroin that we need to focus on. But it's always funny when people sort of package it.
8:16🔗DrewIt's market. It's spinning. They're spinning it.
8:19🔗AdamYeah, they're spinning it. But the thing that they're spinning it in a way that's truthful, which ends up being in a way, it's sort of worse. Like no one ever goes, look, I had a problem with speed, a serious problem with speed. They go, hey man, you put it in front of me. I do it. And I was that way with diet. I was that way with cars. I was that way with coffee. I was that way with women. I was a heroin. I was that way with diet soda, you know, the video games, you know, they just sort of stuff it in front of everything.
8:47🔗DrewAnd you know. They sort of stop with studying and working.
8:51🔗AdamIt ends up, you end up thinking, oh, this guy was just a liver of life. He was a passionate, passionate man like Dr. Drew. No, he was a junkie.
9:09🔗AdamOh, he's nutty with it. I mean, he doesn't come in a nutty package. Most religious guys have like such a whacked out comb over. It's hard to get past the religious zealotry.
9:20🔗DrewBut I'm not sure he's not a book thumper. You know what I mean? He's not preaching.
9:23🔗AdamNo, but he's telling you, look, my God told me, God makes the bed in the morning for me when I get up, you know?
9:54🔗AdamHe's not at the penthouse at the Ritz-Carlton.
9:56🔗DrewNo, or if he was, he was doing good stuff.
9:58🔗AdamHe is, and maybe doesn't, God needs a publicist, gotta get on that list. All right, so anyway, God bless Mel Gibson.
10:07🔗DrewHe's kind of one of my heroes, so I like him.
10:09🔗AdamBut look, what's going on? I was saying to Kimmel today, you know, you got Schwarzenegger running in California, Mel Gibson has found Jesus Christ. Who's gonna?
10:22🔗AdamNo, no, where's the action guys? Where are they? All we got is that damn Vin Diesel. He's not worth anything. Someone's gonna have to step up.
10:31🔗AdamVan Damme's getting all along in the tooth. God knows Seagal packed on a little weight, ponytail's not looking as good as it used to. You're right. You know what I mean? Like some guy's gonna have to step up. And I don't want the sensitive Ben Affleck type either. Yeah, I want the rock.
10:48🔗AdamAll right. We look forward to that. Jennifer? Laughing time is over. I really just begun with him. Good, Jennifer, you're 21. 21.
10:59🔗CallerOkay, I'm a lesbian. And I have pretty much known since I was about nine or 10 years old. And I was talking to a friend of mine a few months ago and she told me that something may have happened when I was much younger. Like I may have been sexually abused by my father or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. I don't really remember anything like that happening.
11:27🔗AdamWell, she was just saying that, quiet. She was just saying that based on the fact that you were a lesbian?
11:33🔗CallerYeah. And the fact that I've known since I was so young. And she said that pretty much you can't base an opinion on what your sexuality is when you're that young. So something must have happened to bring her to that point.
11:53🔗AdamMost gay and lesbian folk who weren't the subject of any abuse or anything, just say they felt different when they were nine and 10.
12:01🔗DrewAnd some clearly knew there was something, some attraction.
12:04🔗CallerWell, I mean, I had my first experience with a woman when I was nine.
12:08🔗DrewOh, that's sexual abuse. That is what she's talking about.
12:11🔗CallerWell, I mean, but even before that, I mean, I guess I was just, I was just.
12:18🔗DrewThen she's right. So that's what I was gonna tell you is you can tell whether there's been some abuse by how you conduct yourself in relationships. If you just are attracted to women and you dated monogamously and you had stable relationships, then okay, that's it. You're just wired that way. But you're having, you're at nine, you find an abusive criminal to act out on you sexually, you know, child abuser.
13:47🔗AdamYeah, like you wouldn't want to enter a three-legged race with Jennifer.
13:50🔗DrewNo. Well, I just wouldn't. You wouldn't want to be pushed. You wouldn't want her to be pushing the sled that your coach was using the ball to activate the offense. She'd be the one that would hang back.
14:02🔗AdamYeah, that's true. That's yesterday's analogy. Jennifer, listen to me, because I'm going to continuously speak so that we do not run into this problem again. Okay, okay, listen, you are 21, you like women. I agree with Drew that if you are not having chaos in your current relationships, then it is academic. You can go ahead and enjoy your lesbian life, okay? And the fact that you were screwing, yeah, which came first, the chicken or the egg? You were screwing around with the chicken at nine, she was nine, it's much different. If you told me she was 39, we'd go, ho, ho, ho. And if you said that she forced it on you, it might be another thing. But the fact that it was sort of mutual, you're both nine, I don't know all the details of what you guys did, and this does depend on how nasty it got, how graphic, and how sexual it got. If you're comfortable with being a lesbian, fine. Are you able to have a relationship that's consistent?
15:02🔗CallerNo, I mean, I'm definitely terrified of relationships, so.
15:08🔗AdamThat's not a good sign. Have you ever had a girlfriend?
15:12🔗CallerNot one that was, I mean, I've had, obviously, I've been with one before, but I've never been able to find one that, you know.
15:28🔗DrewSo you're not going to doctors all the time with pain complaints and headaches and abdominal pain?
15:32🔗CallerNo, no, I mean, when I was 12, I had, it happened a few times that my father abused me. And so like I have really bad back problems from that and stuff like that, just from some of the events that occurred and jaw problems. Other than that, I mean, I really don't have any kind of physical problems.
15:50🔗AdamBack problems from your dad abusing you? Like, did he like blindside you, like a blitzing linebacker when you're at the refrigerator or something?
15:59🔗CallerNo, no, I mean, I was laying on the floor on my stomach and I kind of pushed up with my arms. And so, I mean, I was kind of, you know, I mean, just my legs were all on the floor and everything, but my back was arched up and he basically took my, my head and put it against the back of my heels. So, I mean, my body was going in the exactly opposite position that it should have been. And so, I mean, I have like really bad back problems from that now.
16:26🔗AdamOkay, hold on, I got to talk to Drew. Okay, this is, all right, she's not, she's not. Bad times and nutty and abuse and all that kind of stuff. All right, Jennifer, therapy, get some therapy.
16:36🔗DrewTons of therapy. Really? You're a trauma survivor.
16:41🔗AdamJust do it, you got to do the therapy. But look, anyone who has back problems under the age of 30, who wasn't on the rodeo circuit or the motocross circuit, go to therapy, or wasn't a horrible construction accident. No, go to mental therapy.
16:57🔗DrewWell, she nearly affects, you know, a reproduction of a construction accident with the way her dad's twist. But really, here's the deal.
17:05🔗AdamI mean, listen. I mean, maybe I'm just being an a-hole, but I swear to you, I did everything you could do to myself before the age of 20 and have no back problems. You know, I mean, I played 10 years of football and jammed my head into a million things and effed my back up a thousand times, I'm fine. I mean, kids, I don't know if you can screw up a kid's back at age 12 unless you drop an anvil on him or something, you know what I mean? I'm not saying, I'm not excusing what your dad did. I would bet there's no physical problem with your back.
17:38🔗DrewIt is exactly what I was saying, that she's having what's called somatoform disorder. Her body is the only way she has to tell her tale of woe.
17:47🔗AdamDrew is right. Go to a therapist, not a physical therapist. Chevelle? You're 17?
18:29🔗CallerOh, yeah. My question is, a while ago, you guys were talking about fetishes. And like, I have a fetish, I think, and I wanna know like what it's caused by. It's like different fetishes for different things are caused by different things. I have a hand fetish.
18:54🔗DrewWell, nobody really truly definitively knows what fetishes are from.
18:57🔗AdamHand fetish can be too much exposure to sock puppets as a young child, you know?
19:08🔗AdamHow dare you, man? You don't feel you're overexposed to sock puppets growing up, that it was just a sort of normal, healthy amount of sock puppetry that went on? Uh-huh, deprivation.
20:06🔗CallerI like Big Knuckles, and I don't know why. I just don't know what triggers it.
20:11🔗DrewWell, again, you've, there's all various theories about why this happens, but basically, it's focusing arousal on symbols or objects as a way of distancing yourself from trauma and feelings that might be activated by the potential of physical intimacy.
20:29🔗AdamAll right, well, Chevelle. How's everything going in your life, beside the hand thing?
20:40🔗CallerIn Visalia, like a half hour away from Fresno.
20:43🔗DrewNo, but do you live like in your parents' house or in a boarding care?
20:46🔗CallerI, well, like before, I called you guys about my parents and stuff. And so afterwards I called social services and they put me into a foster home.
20:57🔗AdamNice. All right, and plenty of young hands to look at in that foster home. Now be careful. I don't trust those other kids in the foster home.
21:10🔗AdamYeah, you'd be on the business end of one of those knuckle busters, in a vigorous finger blasting session by some young delinquent. You know what I'm saying?
21:22🔗AdamIs there any worse idea than just taking kids who have been physically, sexually abused to the point where they have to be taken away from their abusive parents, taken out of the house, and then just put them all under one big roof together?
21:43🔗AdamBut show them enough love. Once they know they're loved.
21:47🔗DrewYou know, the only time that kind of thing was actually portrayed on film was when Woody Allen, remember that film he did that was a musical, and they bring the criminal into the house, they're reforming him.
22:19🔗AdamAll you guys got to do. All you got to do to stay out of trouble. I don't care if the person is three days older than you. They give you some advice, you listen. Answer no.
22:29🔗DrewFor that matter, the ones that are younger too, no sex. Yes, no, older, no, no, younger.
22:59🔗AdamYeah. One of the things that makes me cool is not writing books. So I go to the symphony. And listen, Kyle, you can watch that Crank Yankers tonight at 10.30 if you think I'm cool. Yeah, Comedy Central.
23:15🔗AdamKeep the sound down. Keep this radio show on. Ativo, the Crank Yankers. They've got the new season coming out. You have a Germany or Florida for us, yes?
23:53🔗DrewBecause they're going to erect a statue in this guy's honor.
23:56🔗AdamYeah. He has the luck of a Floridian, but the tenacity of a German. It's going to be tough. We'll take a break. And by the way, snapping turtles, one of the freakier animals in God's kingdom, you don't really get much credit for it, but you see those big snapping turtles? You put like a two-inch-dick tree branch in front of its nose, it snaps it right in half.
25:34🔗AdamYeah, I just don't think the snapping turtle goes after the dork, but maybe it does. Snaps the penis off, and then he refuses to go to the hospital until they find the penis.
26:10🔗AdamYeah, my penis would stick out like a periscope. And then start looking around, spotting that merchant marine ship. All right, SS vagina floating by, got a sinker with a torpedo. Okay, we're going Florida.
26:28🔗AdamYeah, you're right. Yeah, thank you, buddy. Here's the old thing about Germany or Florida, when you start working in indigenous creatures or trees or, you know, if he says something happened in the Everglades, we're not going to ever play Everglades or the Autobahn. That's a tip. That tip is off. Yes. Yeah. And let me say something about the auto goddamn bond for a second, by the way, tonight as I was on the Autobahn. Oh, really?
26:54🔗DrewThat is an I think of it all the time when I'm driving my car. Why couldn't we have something like that here?
26:59🔗AdamWell, we don't have any Hitler. That's Hitler's highway. Hitler thought of that. Yeah, not all bad. I was a Hitler, not a great guy, not going to defend the man, but came up with the Autobahn concept. So you got to give him a little something. I was just thinking a little something for the Autobahn, some props, it's decided would be a good idea if people go 130 miles an hour. And here's the thing, build the road and they will come, meaning maybe it's not a coincidence that Germany is home of the turbo Porsche.
27:31🔗AdamWe tell people, hey, auto manufacturers, we got a road here, 55, that's the max. We get the chevette. We get cars that barely make it to 55. We get a bunch of crappy Pontiacs. Let's see, look, it doesn't matter, as long as a car can go 56 miles an hour, we're cool. Someone just stick on another hood scoop that doesn't work and a stupid decalf, a firehawk on the roof. Oh, I got it. The Germans over there, they're trying to figure out a way to get a couple more pounds of boost out of the turbocharger. We're trying to figure out a way to put, to polster the outside of the roof. That's really what it is. Our scientists in 1978 are going, how can we get padding on the roof of the car? While they're trying to figure out ways to shave a couple ounces of unsprung weight by going to a forged rim, as opposed to a steel rim. You know what I'm saying? They built the road, and then they built the cars that worked on the road, that exploited the road. Think about that.
28:34🔗DrewWell, what happened in Italy then? Why do they do it in Italy?
28:37🔗AdamBecause there are no roads. They're passionate Italian people.
28:40🔗DrewSo even without the roads to drive the car.
28:42🔗AdamYes. They have great passion, those people.
28:45🔗DrewThose cars are more about the sound and the look anyway.
28:47🔗AdamYeah, although, you know, they do they do go pretty good. But OK, but the point is, is on the Autobahn, less fatalities per million miles traveled than LA or the United States traveling at a much lesser rate of speed. So there again, another great argument for people to pick it up just a little bit tonight. Driving here, sitting on a small street that led on to Wilshire Boulevard. Nothing like they stopped it because like they're going to have a parade the next day or or it was like the marathon route was going through there and there's just there's nothing. I'm just sitting there. And of course, I got this one. This is what always happens to me. I honk through cars.
29:32🔗AdamLet me tell you what a good what a good NFL linebacker will do. Good NFL linebacker. And you see it with Ray Lewis and Lawrence Taylor and these guys. She's do this. Running back comes through the hole. Fullback is leading through the hole.
29:48🔗AdamHe doesn't try to slip around the fullback and dodge him and do it. He plows into the fullback so hard it shoves that he takes them both out. That's a mean linebacker. That's how I drive. I use my horn like Ray Lewis uses.
30:01🔗DrewYou're doing a favor to everyone else in line.
30:04🔗AdamSo I'm sitting there. The light is red. But in California, you can turn right on it. There's no cars anywhere. Everyone's got their blinker on. So they're turning right. And I'm sitting there and there's a hon in front of me and we're not going anywhere. So I get on the horn. Nothing. Then again, now I'm leaning on. I'm just sitting on it. Now, the guy is ahead of me. He's got to be thinking, well, what do you want me to do?
30:31🔗AdamAlthough I'm sure with you, with you, the guy in front of me can hear it too, but he must be confused. Why is the guy two cars back honking? I mean, now we just sit there and we sit there and it's a small street that runs into a big street, so it's not going anywhere. They just sit there, sit there. And after honking for, you know, what's, you know, I'm on my fifth good, long lean on the horn and I'm thinking, what do they think I am? Some escaped mental patient or something. Who am I honking at? Like, are they think they're smoke coming from the car or the Chupacabras on the roof tearing into it or something like, I always want to know, like, here's what I want to do. I want to, like, stop time, get out of the car and walk over the window and go, look, excuse me, I'm conducting a social experiment. What is going through your mind right now? What do you think? Do you think, I mean, is it A, this guy's a prick, he's got to pay? B, I'm confused. C, I don't hear anything. D, why, you know, why is he honking? I don't know, you know, and if, if and you're not turning when it's perfectly legal to turn, you must be thinking, well, I can't turn. There's a reason why I'm not, anyway, I just sit there honk and honking and honking and honking and nothing. And then eventually the signal turns and they just turn. Now here's all I'm saying. I want to, I want to citizens arrest. You know what I'm saying? We got to get the word out. We got to get the word out to shake your ass in this goddamn town. Get the word out. The word should get out. That is the word. Enough with these goddamn PSAs about secondhand smoke. Enough with the, all the discussions about everything but move your ass. It's always about slow down, look left, look right, look left again. Look out for Caltrans guys. Be careful. Back up. No Jackrabbit starts. Don't do those Jackrabbits. God forbid you do a Jackrabbit start. Why not a Jackrabbit start? Anything wrong with moving? And by the way, why all of a sudden when it comes to cars, we got to frown on people shaking their ass and moving a little bit. This whole country, this whole country is like founded on, hey, this guy's a mover and shaker. Hey, you're talking about Bill Johnson. He gets things done. He makes things happen now. You know, he's up, he's up early, goes to bed late. You want something, he's a guy who gets up early. We built this country on the ability to shake your ass. We get to the moon first. We build the highest skyscrapers. We do it in record time, you know. They didn't think the Golden Gate Bridge could come in under time and under budget, but we did it. We showed them. What about that mentality when you get behind the wheel? Why all of a sudden everyone, hey, take a Quaalude, mellow out, slow down. There's no rush. They call it rush hour. We're in a rush. Let's go. Start going. And how about some tickets? And how about just a general campaign and, oh boy, you better do it in about 30 languages in this city. Turn right when it's red. It's illegal. Go. March now. Underlay. Arriba. All right. I can't find Korean. I'm going to work it hard in the Korean. Drive through Koreatown. Jesus Christ. Bob, play for us.
33:50🔗AdamI'm a prick because I'm honking the horn. You're not a prick because I'm sitting out here waiting to get carjacked and having a little urine trickle down my leg because I can't get to work. Now, I'll just I'll just sit. Here's what that is. Right. I will I will join you and your slathery. They make that word up. Yes. Thank you. People know what it means. And as I have said, man, I was yelling this at my mom the other day. Look, I honked the horn. I'm a prick. But what if you were just walking down the sidewalk in a very slow clip, doing a little window shopping, and I started to walk past you on the sidewalk, you stuck your arm out. Oh, no, no, no. Where are you going? Get behind.
34:27🔗AdamI'm going to stop. Yeah, you stop too. Now I'm on your crappy retarded metronome, the one that barely moves, that's the one I'm on now too. All right.
34:47🔗CallerWell, basically I was dating a girl for five or six years and during that time she cheated on me and gave me genital warts. Well, now we're broken up and I'm curious as to if or how I should bring up the fact that I do have like an STD to...
35:31🔗AdamHow much cream could you rub around your genital area before it turned into a world-class spank session? Think about it. No 24-year-old guy is going to apply ointment around his genitalia.
36:22🔗DrewThey can't figure it out? It's really in the skin. Herpes goes well beneath that.
36:27🔗AdamSo, you put something in your belly, it's not going to do anything because it's on your skin or in your skin.
36:31🔗DrewIt's hard to get the stuff to the skin when skin is not well vascularized.
36:35🔗AdamRight. And there's just... Here's the part that I find amazing. There's no way to kill it when it is on the skin. I mean, what I'm saying is... What if you made a little dam around the area? You just took some plastic and you bent it and used some dental putty or something. You just stuck it down and then you just filled that area with bleach. And you let it just sit there for three hours. Still not going to kill the wart virus?
37:02🔗DrewI don't know enough about the virology of that, but you got to remember the entire penis is exposed and the viruses kind of pop out here and there. They're not just localized where the warts are. Although they can be and they can spread.
37:15🔗AdamWhen is the wart virus antidote coming out or the vaccine?
37:29🔗AdamBut they're hoping for an AIDS Renaissance?
37:31🔗DrewThey know Mother Nature will take care of them. There will be a new STI.
37:34🔗AdamThere's always going to be a reason. Of course. All right. We'll take ourselves a little break. We'll be right back. I'm Adam, that's Dr. Drew. Back to the phones we go. Gonna speak to Atassa.
39:02🔗AdamYeah. It doesn't make sense, but all right. What's happening, baby doll?
39:08🔗When I have sex, like partway through it or if I change positions or something, I'll stop being lubricated just randomly. Even though I'm like still in the mood, like it'll just stop.
39:35🔗DrewCan you tell me the name of the chemicals that are in there?
39:38🔗AdamWhat, I didn't really see it. All right, so what, if it's in the pack, what can you do?
39:45🔗DrewWell, I just want to break it down and put it in a bunsen burn. No, no, I just want to have a strong progesterone in it because that can dry you out.
40:40🔗DrewNo, that it might be doing it, but it wouldn't typically do that. Not my experience. But it's possible, that's what it is. Have you been on other pills, other contraceptives in the past?
40:48🔗Well, before I was on the Depovera and with my ex-boyfriend, I can go on for a while, even if I wasn't in the mood and I'll still be lubricated, but.
40:57🔗DrewInteresting. All right, in my experience, usually the progesterone is what dries women out, but in your case, that wouldn't happen. In fact, you would be less likely to dry out on the progesterone. And now you're taking a pill that has estrogen in it and maybe the estrogen is drying you out, which is sort of the opposite of, this is how strange women can be. They're each different and can respond differently to these products. So you may want to go back on the progesterone shot.
41:20🔗AdamWell, how about you keep a little lube on the nightstand too, you know, little water soluble lube.
41:27🔗Well, with the Depo Vera, I would stop every day, so it was kind of annoying.
41:32🔗DrewHow many times did you take, how many shots did you take?
41:36🔗I probably went for about six months. I never went for anything longer because at times, I take two different sets.
41:45🔗AdamHow about you get some lube and use that if you need it?
41:51🔗AdamThe lube does? Yeah, well, you got to change your oil every five, 6,000 miles too. I mean, eventually the viscosity breaks down. You've seen the Castrol commercials. The point is, yeah, well, when you switch positions, what do you need, another 10, 20 minutes of good humping?
42:24🔗AdamShe sounded like a hot Persian chick. And by the way, I don't know what it is, but there's something always strange about women who take charge of their sexuality to me. Like they talk about, well, you know, with my last lover, I was on the Depo Pro Vila, and then I went ahead and got an estrogen boost and when I had it, it trusted. And then I was with my now my second lover. So it's always, there's something sort of-
42:49🔗AdamI appreciate it, but then there's something sort of matter, there's something matter of fact and calculated and cold about it. But on the other hand, it's just as she's a smart woman, obviously, who's sort of, well, not that smart because you have trouble pronouncing what's going on in the patch. But still, I get the feeling she's sharp. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. All right. Let's keep rolling. Suzanne?
43:17🔗CallerSo I only have a husband. I've been married to him for about a year, close to a year. And he has a very, very strong addiction to these very graphic kind of Craigslist, Craigslist Casual Encounters, any type of like...
43:45🔗CallerIt's like, you know, one of these places where you can find jobs in certain cities and they have like relationship section and then they have a subset within the relationship section that's for...
43:56🔗AdamNot that we wanna plug the website, but I can't believe it's pronounced Craigslist.
44:09🔗AdamCraigslist, all right. And so he meets women on that.
44:15🔗CallerYes, this website is like a mecca for like having casual encounters. And so you go on there and you like, you know, email them and you say, oh.
44:24🔗DrewChris is taking notes, he is writing it down.
44:28🔗CallerAnd he's, you know, he does this compulsively. And not only on that, but he, you know, goes on his, you know, on his cellular phone and, you know, goes on the sites that he finds on there, these, you know, new type of sites. And he's just compulsive about it.
44:42🔗AdamHold on, he goes on a cellular phone and finds new sites?
45:15🔗CallerWell, I noticed when I would walk by him and he was on his computer, he would click down whatever he was working on and I thought it was rather suspicious.
45:24🔗AdamGuy's got a lot of way of us doing that right in the house, you know?
45:28🔗CallerYeah, exactly. And then I got on his computer one day when he was a little, you know, sloppy and left it on. Right. And I just, I couldn't believe it. I mean, it was just horrible.
45:38🔗AdamWell, you're fairly casual. I mean, look, it's one thing for the guy to peruse, look, peruse a little porn on the computer. It's another thing to be giving pictures and interacting with people. Interacting back and forth.
45:51🔗CallerI mean, exactly, exactly what I thought.
45:53🔗AdamExactly. And like I said, you're sort of casual about the whole thing.
46:02🔗DrewIs there something else about him we should know? Have you had to come to terms with other things about him before this one surfaced? No.
46:10🔗CallerAnd the thing is that I don't understand is the reason why he's doing it. When I asked him, why are you doing this? If it's offensive to me and if it doesn't respect our marriage and our relationship and it hurts me, why are you doing this? And he said that he is trying to find out what I am going to do to him, which I find completely, you know, BF.
46:30🔗DrewLook, here's the deal. He's strung out on drugs. I guarantee it.
46:34🔗DrewI guarantee it. That is the most bizarre, lame, ridiculous, and you know, you can't even muster good to excuse a good lie. He's doing bizarre, compulsive, sexually addictive behaviors. We'll get to more of that.
47:45🔗AdamSomething I was talking about today to some guys at the office. I mentioned it on the air, I don't know when, a few nights back, I can't remember. But I don't think you were here, Drew. Tell me if you were. But I was thinking about the eye patch. Were we talking about the eye patch?
48:03🔗AdamAnd how there's a huge chasm between the two types of eye patches. Like the one eye patch, the black silk one, that's the guy who's on the French Riviera. And he's wearing the white dinner jacket. And he's smoking the European cigarette. He has a $7,000 watch. And he's got a couple of hot chicks with him.
48:26🔗AdamYeah, he's a man about town. He's a millionaire playboy. The other eye patch is the flesh colored adhesive one. That's the homeless junkie who got a bad load from a John and gave him a little Hepatitis C or Staph infection in his eye when he was trying to blow a guy to make 15 bucks to get a little packet of crack. Easy little gauze peeking through there. And I was thinking to myself, two huge chasms in eyewear. The two patches. And then I thought, if you were a girl, that'd be a tough coin to flip. Like you're getting a date with the eye patch guy. And you're either gonna get the guy who's Rex Dexler, who drives, pulls the cigarette boat up to the shore, throws the keys to the valet and then hops in the Ferrari and heads up the hill into Monaco. Or you're getting the weird homeless guy who's gonna hit you with a little fortified wine and a light raping. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. And you're a desperate single girl. Do you spin that wheel, Drew?
49:36🔗AdamYou go for it. Even though you could get the flesh-colored adhesive patch guy with just a little gauze poking through the bottom edge. And this is the one where the doctor says, once every three weeks, at the clinic, by the way, or County USC, the county hospital, let's have a look-see at it, starts to peel it back, makes the initial face, and then catches himself. Okay, all right, and then immediately shoves it back again.
50:04🔗AdamBecause he's gonna heave. You been there, Drew? I always like that, let's have a look-see. Let's have a look-see at the festering wound. And you peel the patch back, and it's just like, what roaches, maggots crawling around in there.
50:19🔗DrewYou get the idea, you figure, I know what I see, I get it.
50:22🔗AdamAnd your face will show, for just a millisecond, you'll get that face, right, that I'm gonna hurl. Maybe I'm a doctor, but I'm a human first, and then I'm disgusted at this. And then you put your game face back on, right? All right, please stay with the drops, and stay on direct sunlight. Come back and check me. Is that what happens? What happens to the eye? You get infections, and...
50:43🔗DrewWell, usually you're talking about people that have been enucleated, the eye's gone.
50:47🔗AdamEye's gone, that could be another thing. Lost the eye, like a guy gets stabbed in the number two pencil and he fought with another bum.
51:03🔗AdamShe could be going out with the Barclay man. Or she could get the bum. With the festering eye. It's both patch, guys. Tough choice, huh? Has there ever been a greater chasm between two things, like a watch or cufflinks? No.
51:22🔗AdamEye patch, nothing can go better or nothing can go further south. That's my argument. And I said, hey, bring up your underpants, bring up your spats, bring up your sock garters, your cufflinks and your earrings, any appointments. Nothing, hats, scarves, turtlenecks. Nothing can go further south. Nothing has the potential to go further south. Or better, or more right. You could never live up to the silk eye patch guy. No. This guy. He's like the bachelor from The Flying Nun. Who is this man of mystery? And a white dinner jacket. Carnation in the lapel. Suzanne?
52:03🔗DrewYes. So, this is the husband that we think may be addicted. Certainly he's addicted to the... He's porn addicted and he's internet porn addicted certainly. And the fact that he is that already puts him at risk for substance addiction. And then the sort of bizarre clandestine quality and the weird sort of excuses. That all suggests more addiction to me. The chemical addiction.
52:29🔗CallerWell, when I married him, I mean, he was phenomenal. I had no idea he behaved like this. In fact, he told me quite the opposite saying, Oh God, I'm completely not like that and I'd never behave like that. And...
52:43🔗AdamBut let me explain one thing. Just a quick tip to everybody. People that are really good people rarely explain how they're not bad people. Doesn't really... They don't think of it. It's like people like when car salesmen go, Oh, look, can I be honest with you? People that don't lie never say, Can I be honest with you? Because there's no other option. Like as if you weren't. Let me be honest with you. Can I be honest with you? Can I be straight with you? I get a lot of trouble for saying this. Here's the thing. Was anyone in your family addicted to anything?
53:17🔗DrewYour family of origin? Your parents? Your family of origin?
53:52🔗CallerAnd he's a, you know, he was a complete gentleman. He behaves very properly except for this one very big deterrent. And I'm trying to, you know, figure out if I should somehow salvage this or...
54:04🔗DrewYeah, yeah. I mean, try to get him some help if he's a smart guy and he's a willing guy and he loves you and try to get him some help for sure.
54:11🔗AdamBut here's, okay, but here's the angle, everybody, whether it's the guys looking at porn or whatever the guy's doing that you don't want him to do, if it's within reason. I mean, step number one, decide is this really bad or do I just feel like it's bad or is it just making me feel bad because of something that happened in my childhood?
54:32🔗AdamNow we've established this is wrong. This is clearly wrong. This is not him looking at a playboy while he's on the pot. Right. This is him having an interaction with other people. Next part is don't start chasing him. He'll go underground. And I mean, don't come at him. He'll go underground.
54:48🔗DrewIt's not so much about the behavior you're saying. It's about the whole syndrome.
54:51🔗AdamYou need to have a sit down with this guy saying, look, this is unacceptable for you as much as it is for me. I mean, this is unhealthy behavior in a relationship.
55:02🔗AdamI'm going to save you from yourself by not letting you beat off in front of strangers all day. So we need to talk about this. I don't care if you look at a little porn on the Internet. I'm not telling you you have to turn your computer in, but we need to talk about the part where you're having a relationship with people. You need to be honest with me. We need to assess this. And then there's going to be a little therapy after that.
55:22🔗DrewSuzanne, why don't you hold on the line here? Brian, please keep Brian holding. I will give her a couple of referrals.
55:54🔗CallerWell, ever since I was about 16, my first boyfriend was 8 years my senior. And the funny thing is that they are willing to have a relationship with me as well. So I don't know if it's just that I'm quote unquote mature for my age.
56:17🔗AdamBecause I'm a little confused because she also sounds like a person of small stature. Christine, you are a small person. Say, more macaroni and cheese, please.
56:38🔗AdamBut do it just a little bit of zest. Like you're hungry and you want that scoop of macaroni and cheese and action. That's tough. Yeah, now that was solid. She sounds young, but then again she goes, you know, 5'2, 110. Alright, so she's also small in stature. Never any abuse when you were younger? Alright. Everything's you love your daddy? Mm-hmm. You do? He was around? And he paid attention to you? He's probably making macaroni and cheese right now. He's had a couple of beers. That kid wants macaroni and cheese.
57:25🔗DrewWe lost Suzanne there. I hope they didn't knock her off.
57:28🔗AdamOkay, Drew, hold on a second. Please don't react and yell at the screen that way. Who cares? If she's gone, she's gone. That's what I'm saying. Alright, that was our last caller. Drew has to point out. Okay, you're going out with older guys or you're attracted to older guys. Alright, I don't know, Drew, what about it? A 15-year-old.
57:55🔗CallerIt went quite smoothly, but it's also because they're embarrassed that I'm so young and also throughout the relationship, they seem to be a little, I don't know, they never get quite used to the fact that I am only 18 or that I am so much younger than they are.
58:15🔗AdamYeah. Well, maybe it's, and I don't know why, did your mom die?
58:25🔗DrewI don't quite know what to say. It's always problematic when people are in different stages of their life and you're into guys that are much, much older than you, who are not likely to sort of, they're likely to see you as an object. And the fact this business that you're rationalizing, or at least buying their BS, that they can't get used to you being younger, it's more that they can't sort of come to terms with their guilt for having just exploited you.
58:48🔗AdamWell, here's the thing too. Oftentimes, now look, when you're, you know, when you're 27 and you're dating a guy who's 49, he may be looking to settle down. When you're 18 and you're dating a guy who's 33, he's having some kicks.
59:04🔗AdamHe's having a good time. And it's easy for him to date a younger woman, all the pressure's off. It's nothing serious about it.
59:13🔗DrewBut the pressure's on because he feels guilty. He's exploiting someone who's so much younger. And that's why he keeps it around and that's why he starts saying, I can't quite get used to you being younger. I don't think this is going to work.
59:23🔗AdamI'm just saying he always has it in his hip pocket, this excuse that this thing's never going to work out. We talk about women who only date guys that are married because ultimately they have an intimacy issue and it's never going to work out. It's a nice relief for a guy in his late 20s, early 30s who would at this stage of life having to start thinking about marriage. And if this same guy hooked up with a 28 year old chick, it'd be the screws, you know, you make it longer in a year and people are starting to ask what's going on with you two. You know, all the pressure's off. So you may be inherently attracting guys who aren't that interested in anything long term anyway, and obviously they're immature.
1:00:06🔗AdamYou love your dad, you sound very lucky, head screwed on straight. And then believe me, there's stuff everyone's attracted to. Just make the proclamation, this is what I like. Look, everyone does that. But they're healthier choices. I mean, look, I want to eat ribs every single night. I want to eat, you know what, someone's got to make a rib breakfast cereal. Oh, yeah. Finally, that Cajun flavor comes. It's smokehouse flavor. And they're making a few different styles. You know, you make the Kansas City variety with sort of the dry rub, and you make the real smoky Texas kind with all the molasses. But listen, I like to eat ribs. I could really, I think I could eat barbecue maybe three, four meals a day. Once in a while you eat a can of tuna and a tomato because you just should. Go ahead, feel free to do that if you're dating everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Amber? Barbecue sounds good right now though, doesn't it?
1:01:24🔗AdamInstead of the Trix Rabbit or the Cuckoo for Cocoa Pot, we have a morbidly obese illiterate black man wearing suspenders with one of them dangling down his shoulder.
1:01:47🔗AdamNo. I like the morbidly obese black man with the third grade education. And we could still work in some good ethnic stereotyping. I think we could have our barbecue and eat it too. Amber?
1:03:20🔗AdamOkay. Well, then you don't have to call it warts.
1:03:22🔗DrewDid they have to do anything to your cervix?
1:03:25🔗CallerI have to go back in for like the rest of it. Like I have to do the treatment and stuff for... Because basically there's the kind of strain that I thought that at least what my gynecologist told me I have is like the changes in the cervix that causes cervical cancer.
1:03:42🔗DrewOkay, that's the wart virus and that's the worst kind of wart virus. So I don't know what you're thinking you don't have warts. You have it, you're contagious. Now look, you do. That's it. Period. Now what kind of procedure do they do on you?
1:03:55🔗CallerThey haven't done anything yet but I don't totally know.
1:03:58🔗CallerI don't know what it's called but I have to go in and I don't know.
1:04:25🔗DrewYeah. There can be an instability of the lining of the uterus. From the birth control pill or even just with sexual activity. Some people can get bleeding just because you've never had it. It doesn't mean it's abnormal. You have it now. But you know you have cervical disease and we don't know how bad it is. If it's in the endocervical region inside the cervix, the little hole that goes up to the uterus, that's a pretty serious thing.
1:04:45🔗AdamWait a minute. Is that another one of those words that pisses me off? That Indo versus...
1:04:50🔗DrewWell, Endo is inside. There's no Indo in medicine.
1:05:18🔗AdamListen, I hate to side with the Frogs, but they have a point here. I have argued for years that push and pull should not start with the two first goddamn two letters that are matching. I mean, it's a ridiculous idea. I've whacked it.
1:05:35🔗DrewIt's English, though. It's just English. Not everybody else.
1:05:37🔗AdamOkay, good. Nothing more humiliating than hitting a diner on a Sunday morning, a crowded diner with the old aluminum door and the aluminum door frame and the glass. And the one thing that makes it worse is the ones that has the bell hang on. And by the way, everybody with your with your bells and chimes swinging off the door. You don't know when someone's coming in your place to get something to eat. And by the way, it's always packed. Why is it? How does it? Point is, you're coming in, you got you got some momentum. The thing says, Paul, you whack the thing, smack it on the thing. It's that great aluminum on aluminum with the glass shaking and the bell, the residual belting. Everyone in the restaurant say, Hey, Jack, off. Hey, look at Jackass. Hey, look at retard girl over there. Can't read and walk at the same time. Fantastic. I say they both start with the PU. And PU that stinks.
1:07:33🔗AdamI'm going to take a little break here, but I'm angry. It's just once in a while you hear guys, every time someone's talking, they go, well, you gotta be able to listen, you gotta think, you gotta look at the macro picture. It's always like I have to stop and process for a second. No, wait a minute, is it we focus on the small thing or we gotta look at the big... It's always a little confusion.
1:08:39🔗DrewMy assumption is there's an emergency when somebody calls when I'm doing the show. And how can I assume otherwise, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I have no alternative.
1:08:50🔗AdamListen, if your wife calls during the two hours that this show is on the air, you should naturally assume that the house is on fire and that she's calling from the lawn.
1:09:04🔗AdamNo. That there's been a dirty bomb exploded in your driveway. And that's it. She got nothing. And yeah. All right. Listen, a little back hand when you get home. That's all I'm saying. For our own good. Just to settle her. All right. Listen. Drew's wife. I'm not going to use your name on the air, but Susan, don't call during the show unless something's on fire. Sarah? You're 20? Uh-huh. Or at least time the commercial, right? Here's Pager went off the second we came back there. Sarah, go ahead, baby doll.
1:09:57🔗CallerAnd like revolving around sex mainly. Like I had to dream that there was this duckbill platypus in a river and it turned into a guy and he and I went off in the woods and had sex. Kind of odd, you know? And I had a dream that I was in the woods and had sex with this elf and this other elf came up and killed me because I was a human and how dare I have sex with this elf?
1:10:32🔗AdamYou can't listen to any Jethro Tull before you go to bed or you'll have these bizarre elven country type dreams.
1:10:41🔗DrewThat's fantastic. All right, well. Yeah, pregnancy is an altered, you know, it's a disease state basically. It's the ultimate sexually transmitted disease. And as you get, yeah, you like that? As you get more pregnant, you're gonna have probably more sexual urges and they may be, when you dream, they'll be more bizarre possible.
1:11:06🔗CallerWell, we're planning the wedding and everything and trying to get a lot of all of that done. So I was thinking it may be just stress too, cause we're trying-
1:11:15🔗DrewAre you generally more sexually aroused now that you're pregnant? Or at least the second trimester?
1:11:19🔗CallerYou know, I haven't really noticed a difference between, you know, before I became pregnant and after I became pregnant.
1:11:28🔗DrewDo you have a history of weird dreams growing forever?
1:11:31🔗CallerI do. I mean, I've always had very strange dreams, but I haven't had sexual-
1:11:36🔗DrewAll right, that's cause you're pregnant.
1:11:38🔗AdamThat's just fine. I'm a little muscle tough. I was trying to think of-
1:11:56🔗AdamYou know why? Ever since I started wearing pajamas to work, something done on me about two, three years ago, why wear pants to work when you don't have to wear pants? Yeah.
1:12:09🔗AdamDrew's wearing underoos, the feet are built in, the flaps hanging open in the back. It's only a matter of time before I just come in with just a sock around my penis, like during the summer months. I'm already at the point where I'm literally coming here in pajamas. The only thing that's keeping me from getting into less than the pajamas, which is I gotta have a pocket or two for the keys. But if I break down and get that fanny pack, like I've been talking about, that suede fanny pack, have you been eyeing for a few years? Then I just start showing up. Actually, better plan.
1:12:45🔗AdamI show up in a diaper. I show up in a diaper with just a blanket and get draped around my back like a shawl. And that way, I don't have to wait for commercial breaks to go do my business. I just start peeing and crapping myself right there.
1:13:02🔗AdamI could go for that. There is a little boner factor.
1:13:07🔗DrewNo thanks. Let's not wear those. Oh, with the diaper though. Diaper and toga.
1:13:10🔗AdamYeah. I would like a sort of tunic sort of thing. Or even, I'll tell you what I need. I'll tell you what I need. I need a terry cloth towel, but long with a hole cut into it. Like a poncho.
1:14:04🔗AdamYeah. People emigrating. Yeah. Who the hell knows what even said it? And by the way, I didn't even know there was an emigrate. Yeah, I didn't either. I thought I was just hearing immigrate each time.
1:14:14🔗DrewWell, in this state, that is what you're hearing.
1:14:57🔗CallerDoes anything for a girl not make her-
1:15:00🔗DrewThe progesterone, the mini-dose pills and the progesterone shot tends to not gain weight. But each woman is different. She's got to try what, you know, start with something and see what happens.
1:15:22🔗AdamWell, here's the thing though. You turn on the TV, you hear, you know, Barbara Walther saying Kelly Ripper. And you know, everyone's got their own spin on everything. I work with that guy who's called Sandwich a Sandwich and stuff like that. So how the hell are you gonna know when it's a different word or someone's just, you know, tripping on their tongue a little bit? Yes? All right. What is his question? He's good. He's cool? All right. Let's go to five then.
1:15:52🔗CallerYeah. Yeah. Got a problem, man. My sexual stamina has gone down from when I was younger and I've tried everything, you know, beating off before sex, using a condom. And it's gotten to a point sometimes where it's discouraging to me. And if it's discouraging to me, I could just imagine how my partner feels. You know what I mean?
1:16:17🔗DrewYou don't know how your partner feels.
1:17:09🔗CallerWell, I don't know. I've never actually timed it, but you know, it's, I don't know, it's less than, I'd say probably 10 minutes. Sometimes I'm barely in a couple times and-
1:17:23🔗AdamAll right, let's, let's, let me ask you this, Drew. Is there anything historically or from a nature standpoint? You know, I guess what I'm trying to say is we try to look for sort of-
1:17:36🔗AdamMotivation for people living. And I was sort of thinking to myself like, you no longer have to impress your woman. This partner you hook up with the first time or the second time or even the first 20 times. You have to sort of, there's sort of impress them. And then as you guys stay together longer, it becomes more about procreation. I mean, from a bizarre evolutionary nature kind of thing. This is, I have theories. I have theories that unattractive guys have huge dorks as an evolutionary thing. This is what gets them. This is how they're able to keep their genes going. The goofiest looking guy I know has got the biggest dork I know.
1:18:25🔗AdamNow you want to put a bullet in his head, right? But when he has a macro penis instead of a micro penis. So do you think this just starts going that way as a guy? Like here's the thing. What if he got with a new chick? I bet if he was with a new chick, it would go back to where it was. I mean, there would be a discomfort level that might set it back there.
1:18:46🔗DrewAnd yet he's going kind of the opposite direction of most. Most you get with a new chicken and things are going to happen quicker.
1:19:24🔗CallerYeah. You know, it's funny that you say if I were to get with another girl, a new interest, I've even considered that theory that, you know, maybe if I were to get with someone else, like I'll last longer, I'll be more into it. But then at the same time, it's like.
1:19:42🔗DrewSo for you being more into it makes you last longer. So you're sort of casual and not in, you don't have the eye of the tiger with your current girlfriend.
1:19:50🔗CallerYou think that's what it is? It's just.
1:19:52🔗DrewWell, I'm wondering. You sort of, those were words that came out of your mouth. And maybe you're just not, maybe this is four years and this thing's run its course.
1:20:13🔗AdamJoyce, sounds like a cheech from Cheech and Chilock too, which I find delightful. But listen, Joey, okay, here's what you do. Look, here's the thing. It's like a plumber when he comes to your house to clear your drain. You pay for drive time.
1:20:52🔗AdamYeah, if you're only lasting 10 minutes when you're on your check, start off with a nice 13, 15 minutes of Vigorous Oral. And now you got 25 minutes.
1:21:15🔗AdamNow I don't wanna talk to Clayton. Clayton, you're 23, what's happening, buddy?
1:21:20🔗CallerYeah, I'm with a woman who's 29 and she has a eight-year-old daughter. And I've noticed that a theme on your show lately has been girls who have missed their father figures, have had trouble with their relationships later on in life. And I'm wondering what I can do to help her get a positive male role model.
1:21:46🔗DrewYeah, here's the problem. She will always be affected by the dad not being in her life. So you can't ever take it away completely. All you can do is be a positive empathic to it.
1:21:57🔗DrewWait a minute, forcing in her life from now on through the rest of her life. The problem is her mom is into guys who are abandoning and she will be sure to sabotage this relationship with you because you're an available guy, right, Adam?
1:22:14🔗AdamNo, OK, I do get a little nerd in Clayton's voice.
1:22:17🔗DrewShe's going to sabotage that. And so the mom's going to make sure that her daughter...
1:22:22🔗AdamLet me poke around just a little bit. How old is your gal pal, Clayton? Twenty-nine. Twenty-nine. So you're twenty-three. She's not a ton older. She's got an eight-year-old. So she got pregnant fairly early. And the guy she was with, is he in the picture at all? So where is he?
1:22:44🔗CallerShe doesn't know. He was very abusive and she just left him.
1:23:32🔗DrewBut you said you were just waiting around for her. He was into this.
1:23:35🔗AdamI know, but you said you were set up through a mutual friend.
1:23:38🔗DrewYeah, finally, finally, he cracked the code finally.
1:23:41🔗AdamWell, but wait, I'm just confused. Were you initially introduced three years ago by the mutual friend?
1:23:47🔗CallerYeah, so we just knew this person, introduced these, and we just started hanging out through this friend and then after a while we just kind of hooked up.
1:23:59🔗AdamWell, after a while, I mean, you liked her for two and a half years, right?
1:24:06🔗CallerWell, I was finishing school and I didn't want to start anything, and I finished school.
1:24:53🔗DrewClaire Mudd, what do you speak to Claire Mudd men's?
1:24:56🔗AdamOh, I see, he's calling from Claire Mudd. Hey, Clayton. Here's the thing.
1:25:03🔗DrewClayton, you are rationalizing things and these are things that don't follow rational patterns. The humans follow specific patterns, but they aren't to be rationalized. You know what I'm saying? They don't make sense. And what is happening here? I can tell you what's happening here. You were into him from the moment you met her. She was not available. She wasn't so into it. But she finally sort of succumbed to this or she had a weak moment or she got tired of these abusive guys or unavailable guys and decided to be with a guy who was available. But she will not continue in that, not unless she's getting a lot of therapy. And don't BS yourself with, well, I was too busy in school. No one's ever had a relationship when they're busy in the graduate school.
1:25:42🔗AdamCome on. He had to beat off and pop sits and doodle on PG folder for a while until he was ready. Yeah, Clayton, you liked her the day you met her.
1:25:52🔗CallerWell, of course, or else I wouldn't be there.
1:25:55🔗DrewYeah, well, you haven't told. You haven't admitted that we had a five minute conversation. You've been denying that.
1:26:07🔗DrewAnd she no, no, she'd have to be in it for a long, long, long time. And that's the only chance. No, not was not was.
1:26:14🔗AdamOh, look, I don't know. I'm tired of crapping on Clayton Clayton. And here and by the way, we're going to help you real fast. But I'm just saying what Drew and I are reacting to is Clayton's voice.
1:26:24🔗DrewNot so much the circumstances, the defensiveness and the distortions, the intellectuals.
1:26:28🔗AdamI know. But here's what I want to say. People listen to the show and they go, the poor guy called. They ask a legitimate question. You guys jumped all over him. Where do you get that? Now, you're just listening to the question. We're listening to the voice. And for us, there's alarm bells going off in our head to everyone who's just casually listening to the show. We're a couple of a-holes that are jumping on a guy with a legitimate question. And by the way, who's given us no real hardcore stuff for us to believe otherwise. Now, as we start scratching around, it starts to come out and all we need is a spoonful to fill a dam for us. I mean, we know what's going on.
1:27:07🔗AdamBut we do have to explain it to people that are listening every once in a while, who don't feel or know what we know.
1:27:12🔗DrewClayton has been in love with this girl since he met her. She is someone with an abusive history who needs an abusive man in her life or an unavailable man. She, for whatever reason, finally has developed a relationship with someone who is available, but she's not gonna be able to tolerate that. She will sabotage that. So the question of how to be a father figure to the child becomes moot because she's gonna pull the guy out of the child's life. And that's the unfortunate thing because to be a good father figure, you need to be intimate and attuned to this child. Now, forever. That's what she needs.
1:27:39🔗AdamClayton, treat the child as best you can while you're around her. Do not, we, at the six month period, do not bond with the child. Don't take them out on outings alone and that kind of stuff. And yes, we are waiting for the wheels to come off of this thing when she needs.
1:27:57🔗DrewAnd you gotta stop BS-ing yourself about these racial situations.
1:28:01🔗AdamWe'll take a quick break. We'll be back. Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Dr. Drew. My wife freaks out during sex.
1:28:28🔗DrewWhich one do you want, that one or this one?
1:29:16🔗CallerI'm having a problem. Me and my wife, I've met her, I've known her since high school. And she was attacked when we were younger. She was raped actually. And, you know, I knew what had happened and everything, but not every now and then when we're intimate, she just, she has like a flashback or something and just.
1:29:43🔗DrewWell, here again, yeah, like our last caller, this sort of means stuff to us. You know, a teenager that gets raped.
1:30:41🔗CallerYeah, at the time, she knew him, too.
1:30:45🔗AdamI just mean, I don't know why in my bizarre way of thinking, although my guy likes to fart into microphones. To me, a stranger breaking a house and you waking up the guy on top of you is the most traumatic thing in the world. If for some reason it's Cousin Stewie from the barbecue two years ago, it's confusing, but at least it's not that crazed. I mean, it's effed up, but it's not effing effed up.
1:31:16🔗CallerOh, her family's fine. It wasn't from her family. It was one of her brother's friends, a guy from his family. And, you know, he came around a few times when...
1:31:27🔗AdamOne of her brother's friends. Yeah. And she got, she was, no, no, no, quiet down, Drew. And this is the middle of the night.
1:31:35🔗DrewWe have one minute. I got to solve it.
1:32:08🔗CallerHe works for a county. Okay. He's a county worker. All right.
1:32:14🔗DrewWell, here's the deal. She's suffering from a post-traumatic stress disorder. It would be normal, given the severity of the trauma she went through. People that have a sustained persistent post-traumatic stress disorder syndrome usually often have some other trauma in the remote past that gets re-triggered by the trauma in the present. In either case, she needs treatment, she may need medication. There are doctors that specialize in this. And if it's something that's affecting your ability to have a relationship, it's causing mood problems, panic attacks, that sort of thing. She really should get a treatment.
1:32:45🔗AdamGod bless Richard for hanging in there and caring enough.
1:33:38🔗AdamShow is over. I'm gonna thank everyone who made it possible. And until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo.
1:33:54🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on the show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Annie Gold. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.