1:02🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Stryker! And Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:12🔗StrykerThere goes the neighborhood. Yeah, this is Loveline. Welcome, you guys. Hopefully, you survived the weekend. If you went to New Orleans, hopefully, you survived there. You got some beads, you gave up beads. You ended up on Girl's Gone Bad, Video 7. You never know. Drew, what's up?
1:24🔗DrewYou sound a little hoarse. Were you yelling during the event or?
1:30🔗StrykerI had a lot of talking to do during that game. It was a fantastic game. And then I was screaming on Saturday, watching Arizona play Stanford and basketball and don't play Who Cares Anderson. And...
1:47🔗StrykerOh, man. And tonight's a cool night because, well, I'm hosting Loveline. That's mediocre. But the cool thing about tonight is Jason Schwartzman is sitting to my right.
2:02🔗AdamGrowing up, you know, as a teenager listening to the show, I expected a much bigger production here. 80 people at keyboard screening calls.
2:10🔗DrewWell, you expected like at least something resembling state-of-the-art technology. Yeah.
2:15🔗StrykerAnd now you have Drew who obviously is super smart. Then I'm sitting here in some 80-year-old sweats, but I got the cool like... You look great. Well, thanks, man. It's beautiful.
2:25🔗AdamNo, I really did. I imagine like just Kubrick style futuristic. But it's cute. I mean, it's cute. It's cute.
2:32🔗StrykerIt's cute. It said we have this cute little studio.
2:38🔗StrykerGoodbye. So from now until about 11 o'clock, you're going to hang out. Then 11, we'll bring in some of the boys from your band Phantom Planet.
2:44🔗AdamYes, I believe Alex and Sam from Phantom Planet.
2:46🔗StrykerAnd you're in a new movie coming out pretty soon.
3:02🔗StrykerTell us about Slackers for people that don't know that much about it or haven't seen it yet.
3:05🔗AdamWell, it's an R-rated, crazy flick about a character who I play named Cool Ethan, who is absolutely obsessed with this girl played by James King, who's a former supermodel. She is. And basically I catch these Slackers guys cheating on this midterm and I have evidence that they've cheated. So I use that evidence as blackmail to basically get me the girl or I will kick them out of school.
3:40🔗AdamYeah, their everything. They download the emails, they go through all the clothes, they get everything, the Cosmo Girls surveys, whatever. In the process of trying to get information on this girl, one of the guys falls in love with her. And she falls for him and then I find out and I lose my mind and it's war and it's dirty and it's crazy and it's sick and fun and it's smart too.
4:28🔗AdamSplit it up. Yeah. Tim Russert, this political commentator was on. It was great though. It was great to be on there twice. I love Dave Letterman.
4:37🔗AdamI'm a big fan of his. To be on there once is so amazing.
4:41🔗StrykerAnd then back to back with the band. Drumming. I've seen Paul Schaefer watch it.
4:46🔗AdamI got to say though, being on there solo was so scary that once I finished, just to play drums and to be on it was such a cake, cake, right? I was, the only thing I told myself was, don't drop a stick. If you drop a stick, you can never have sugar again for the rest of your life. Right. And I didn't drop a stick. There you go. I had a donut on the way over here.
5:09🔗StrykerIt's the big round donut. If you don't live in LA, it's right by the airport. I love there. My dad used to go there Saturday mornings and bring them home.
5:14🔗DrewIt's basically, it's the huge donut on top of the donut stand that Homer Simpson always tries to grab and eat.
5:19🔗StrykerYes. Much better described than me. Alright. It's 1-800-LOVE-191. Jason Schwartzman is here for questions and comments, and he'll talk about anything the hell you want. Jamie19, you're on Loveline.
5:30🔗AdamThis is great. Before you talk, Jamie, this is so cool. I've always wanted to call into this show, let alone, I can't believe we're actually taking a call right now. Oh yeah.
5:41🔗StrykerPlus, you're about as smart as I am, I think. So our advice is...
6:07🔗DrewCan we keep talking to him or are you going to cut him off? No. Anderson, get rid of him. You're done.
6:10🔗StrykerHe lives with ex-cons and he wants to move out.
6:12🔗DrewYeah. I don't understand why you moving on, unless he has some sort of financial obligation, which he merely has to fulfill, at which point he can move on.
6:32🔗StrykerNot too shabby. My question is for Dr. Drew. Maybe he can answer this or maybe Mr. Corolla can be a smart ass about it. I don't know. What I'm wondering is why do doctors call it a practice? You know what I'm saying? Like my practice is over on the west side or you know what I'm saying?
6:51🔗StrykerRight, or a practice of law. Why is it? Because my theory is the only things I can think of are like the doctor's practicing and if he screws up, you know, it doesn't count. It was just practice.
7:14🔗DrewThe condition of being efficient through systematic exercise.
7:18🔗StrykerAre you actually answering my question?
7:19🔗DrewHere's the definition. The definition of practice is the continuous exercise of a profession. Whatever. So it's just a separate meaning for the word practice that he only knows to mean to repeat over and over or to become proficient at. It has a wholly separate definition, which is the continuous exercise of a profession.
7:41🔗DrewYeah. Although I got to say, whenever I've cut down on my workload, I've noticed that your expertise, you have to really do this a lot all the time.
7:53🔗DrewBecause when you're doing it a lot of the time, it comes so naturally, you think it's like ice skating or something. It's like, well, this is no big deal. You cut back, all of a sudden, it's like, holy God.
8:01🔗StrykerIt's like drugs. If you're still living in the 70s, you're way behind. You're not doing the X now.
8:06🔗AdamDo you get all the medical journals and keep up with all the medicines?
8:10🔗StrykerPam, what's up? You're 16 on Loveline.
8:14🔗StrykerYeah. Hi, guys. I really like to say I really like the show. I listen to it every night and it's the coolest thing.
8:23🔗StrykerIt's kind of boring right now, but whatever. I also listen when I was listening because we have the delay. Drew and someone else were talking about the Super Bowl, and it was like, yeah, the Rams are totally going to win. I thought it was really funny.
9:06🔗DrewAtkins diet. So you're on a high protein, low carb, high fat.
9:10🔗StrykerWhat mine is, is like for breakfast and lunch, I'll have vegetables and protein with like no snacks, and I can have whatever I want for dinner.
9:17🔗StrykerAnd it's working pretty well. It's a pretty slow process, but it's, I guess it's kind of healthy.
9:21🔗DrewYeah. It sounds like you really should be eating another meal with protein in the morning too, and maybe not go nuts at night. Like it sounds like you might be inclined to do.
9:29🔗StrykerPam, I found a fantastic bar to eat, and it's called Something Nine. Jason, I don't know if you know. It only has one carb, 22 proteins.
9:40🔗AdamI'm going to burst in here. I used to eat a lot of the bars. Yeah. I used to, you know.
9:44🔗AdamBut I got to say something. I really don't, I'd rather have a couple of pieces of chicken or something with the same amount, because I don't believe in all the chemicals and all the, there's stuff in there that's got to be just as weird for your body.
9:57🔗DrewTo me, it's much more satisfying to have a meal.
10:19🔗StrykerI run for about 20 minutes, and then I lift a little weights, but then sometimes during the week I dance.
10:25🔗StrykerYou should bump up your cardio like 15 minutes.
10:27🔗DrewThat's much better than taking any substances. Metabolite, at least it used to have a stimulant in it. Anything that actually works is going to have a pharmacologic effect. So it's much better you take a really, truly balanced diet with real food, meaning well-cooked meats, vegetables, fruits, fresh stuff out of the ground, and then exercise like crazy. Not like, not crazy crazy, but at least 20 minutes of... You know what actually is a good diet, believe it or not, is that seafood diet. Was it Diet For Life, Guy? That's a pretty good one.
11:03🔗StrykerBut is it one that I'm on now? Does it seem okay?
11:06🔗DrewWell, it seems a little bit erratic. That you tend to, if you eat a lot at some point during the day, it tends to change the way you're... People theorize maybe it's your insulin metabolism that drives your blood sugar down and increases your hunger. So you really want to keep a uniform, more balanced intake throughout the day. So vegetables, protein in the morning, get it at lunch.
11:38🔗AdamThis is a beautiful, this is a work of art.
11:40🔗StrykerHow about when you get a movie role? Do you consciously work out to just...
11:44🔗AdamWell, I did this movie, this spun movie, this where I played Crystal Methodist and I had like three weeks to try and lose as much weight as possible and I couldn't really go too crazy, but I remember I was drinking, I would have these shakes, I'd have one shake in the morning, one shake at night and then a no carb meal, like a piece of chicken or something for dinner and it was crazy and I'd take all these herbs and I was getting acupuncture, it was crazy.
12:07🔗StrykerHow much did you drop in three weeks?
12:08🔗AdamA lot of weight, like 22 pounds or something, crazy.
12:12🔗DrewMost of that ends up being muscle though.
12:14🔗AdamYeah, I still look like an idiot. But is it true that your metabolism slows down at night? Is it true like to eat a late meal is bad for you?
12:23🔗StrykerI heard from this guy named Steve that says it's not super true.
12:29🔗DrewI don't know the science well enough to comment.
12:31🔗StrykerBy the way, if you need someone to come in that does health stuff, I got a guy. I just thought of it.
12:38🔗StrykerA health author guy that helped me out and it's so smart. He's on Good Morning America.
12:43🔗DrewDietary. Dietary guy. I think he's sort of right. Personally, that's my opinion, but I don't know the science well enough to respond responsibly. But the point is it equalizes out anyway.
13:01🔗AdamThat's what I'm saying. Because right after this. Where are you going?
13:04🔗DrewYou're going to Donuts again. I love Donuts. What does really affect things is exercise. I swear to God, exercise is so much more important than anything else in terms of staying healthy, feeling good, staying healthy longest. That is the most important.
14:11🔗DrewWell, let him, if he has any other weird fantasies that could be destructive, allow them to stay with him. It doesn't mean you have to go act on these things. It sounds like you kind of want to do this and you want to use the threesome as an excuse to have another same-sex experience again, but you're married, you're committed, you're in a monogamous relationship, you diminish the safety and health of that relationship if you go act out with someone else.
14:31🔗StrykerWhether you're married or not married, that's going to screw up a relationship from what I gather from listening all the time.
14:36🔗DrewCorrect, Drew? Correct. I'm getting an echo. Am I the only one?
14:48🔗DrewMight be. It might be. You got to turn the radio off.
14:50🔗StrykerJason, don't you think that every guy pretty much wants to have a threesome? Or at least thinks about it every so often?
14:57🔗DrewNo. I think that's a reasonable thing for guys to think about.
15:00🔗StrykerBut it's not reasonable to force your mate into it.
15:02🔗DrewYeah. I mean, an unmarried 28-year-old would be thinking about it. But a 28-year-old is married?
15:08🔗StrykerWell, it's like we both kind of think about it.
15:10🔗DrewI know, Laurie, that you want to use this as an excuse to go ahead and have another lesbian experience. But you're a lesbian. No, there's a reason that it shouldn't happen. It's not good for your marriage. Okay. Do you have kids? No.
16:33🔗DrewMaybe it's a genius question. Maybe it's to avoid in the case there's an earthquake and somebody slips and somebody standing nearby should get stuck with a needle. I don't know.
16:42🔗StrykerHave you witnessed one of those before?
17:20🔗StrykerAll right. So, you know, everything's been going all right. She's 24. I'm 20. And, you know, I'm in college right now. I don't go to a community college, by the way. And, you know, I think it's just time for me to move on, but I don't really know how to say that. You know, she's a cool chick, but I don't really know how to, like, end it.
17:40🔗DrewYou've been dating her for two and a half years?
18:44🔗DrewAll right, here's the deal. One of the rules though is if you leave, you're not allowed to come back when you find out that you can't get laid with just on your own merit.
18:52🔗StrykerWhat about the rule a week after the breakup? It's two in the morning and he's coming home from a boat.
18:56🔗DrewNo booty call. You're not allowed to do that to her. You break up and you do not look back. That's harmful to her.
19:03🔗StrykerOh, man. See, I just want to explore and find out if she is the one.
19:07🔗DrewThat's fine, but you do not lay a hand on her. In fact, don't even speak to her for six months. Let her mourn the loss of the relationship and get over it on her own terms. She'll have a boyfriend in two weeks.
19:20🔗StrykerYeah. Matt, have fun in the Mile High City.
19:23🔗DrewBut listen, the way you do it, you just be honest with her. And you're not, believe me, nobody wants to be in a pity relationship. Nobody wants to be sort of strung along just because you don't know how to be honest. Be honest with them.
19:33🔗DrewIt's an awful, awful situation for her. Let her do what's truly kind for her. Tell her what's real.
19:40🔗AdamAnd the last thing I want to do is start to resent the person.
19:44🔗DrewOh, listen, there'll be no going back to her ever if she ends up angry with him for having strung along for a long time.
19:51🔗StrykerDefinitely. Jason Schwartzman is here and this question is for you directly.
19:55🔗DrewThe other thing guys do is they go, wait, they go ahead and cheat. That's the other thing they do. They stay in something until they actually cheat and then they get out.
20:01🔗AdamYeah, they have to have, or some guys are so passive aggressive that they are jerks so that the girl breaks up with them, but that goes back to something that happened when they were four, right?
21:51🔗StrykerOh, thank you. All right, we gotta take a break. Jason Schwartzman is hanging out on Stryker. He's in for Ace Rockolla along with Dr. Drew. Slackers is the flick. We'll talk about that. And then after 11 o'clock, we'll bring your band in and hang out with them too. All right. Sounds like a plan. Rock out. All right. Bye.
22:41🔗StrykerThank you, Jason, that was good stuff. All right, we're back at Loveline. I'm a striker in for Adam Carolla, who I saw on MTV in the football game when they have celebrities play against athletes.
23:06🔗StrykerBut he was good. Anyway, he caught the pass, was in the end zone, he squatted like he was on a toilet, made the face like he was pushing something out of the ball. No, hold on. No, no, no. Hit the ball behind his butt. And then, no, first acted like he was reading a newspaper, and then after he was done moving his hand, like reading a paper, then he did the face again, like pushing, and then the ball dropped.
23:28🔗StrykerI can deal with the fact that I am gay now.
23:31🔗StrykerExactly. But Jason is here, and Slackers came out this past Friday, and it's crazy. You are well known for making that movie with Bill Murray Rushmore, which was, it was successful, but it's become kind of a cult favorite, I guess you can say.
23:47🔗AdamYeah, I mean, it didn't, I mean, yeah, not so many people saw it, I guess, because it didn't have the money to reach a huge audience. But, you know, but the people who like it get it, and I guess that's great for us. I mean, when we were making it, I didn't think that anyone was going to find it fun, except for like 10 people at home. So it was good to see that people understood it. It means a lot to people. It means a lot to me, so that's really wonderful.
24:10🔗StrykerIt was a fantastic movie, and now my question is, and Letterman kind of hit on this when you were on there, but you've only done, at least that have come out, like one, two, or maybe even three things at most since then. Is that because you're picky, or because of your band, or you've just been pretty much hanging out with your family? I don't know.
24:25🔗AdamWell, when I finished the movie, I came back, I finished high school. I mean, that was just the natural thing. And then, you know, I've been playing in the band since I was 14. You know, that was my first thing. So it wasn't the next logical step wasn't to make another movie. And plus, when you're 17, there's a lot of things going on in your mind other than what movie am I going to make next? You know, just looking at who you are and meeting people. And I was just playing with my band.
24:51🔗StrykerThat's not true for everybody, by the way.
24:52🔗AdamI know. But for me, I mean, look, but for some kid actors who have been acting since they were like two and their parents are there and, you know, and they have headshots and everything at the age of six. You know, making movies just, Rushmore would have been just one in a series of jobs. But it was my first one and I had never done it before. When I returned from making the movie, it wasn't like I was ready to keep going. I was worn out. I was like, it was like, it was like just taking me right now, throwing me into a boxing ring and like asking me to fight a professional fight and, you know, not even try to win, just try to get through it alive. And then once I got through it alive, it was like, you know, I don't want to fight again for a couple of years.
26:13🔗StrykerWell, he has a girlfriend too. So, it's like he doesn't admit he's gay or bisexual. He just says, you know, sometimes he's just experimenting, but it's been like two years.
26:35🔗DrewAnd if he can't even figure out what he's doing or be honest with himself that he's having sex with a man, you've got someone who, at very minimum, we can say is confused, right?
26:45🔗DrewAnd there are a lot of people out there who are confused about their sexual identity. They don't know what they are or they're gay but can't admit it or can't deal with it or, you know, don't want to be that way and try to force themselves to be heterosexual. I don't know what's going on with this guy, but he is confused.
26:58🔗StrykerMike, what's your story? Are you gay, bi, straight?
27:01🔗StrykerWell, kind of leading to the gay part, but not really.
27:05🔗DrewBag it, better run. No, actually, that's what we call bi. Bi, bi, to hetero.
27:22🔗StrykerIf you're telling me straight, then I'm not allowed to say that.
27:24🔗StrykerYes, I love when you say that. Mike, you're gay.
27:29🔗DrewYeah, right? Mike, let's be clear here. You're gay. The other guy is confused and you can continue to carry on with him if you wish, but like any relationship where somebody's cheating on someone else, it's not going to be a particularly pleasant experience. Get him to clarify what's up with him and end that relationship if he's going to be screwing around with any other human beings.
27:52🔗StrykerYeah, you do? Do you say I love you to him, Mike? Yeah, all the time. Does he have a hairy back?
27:57🔗DrewHe's going to be a screwed up partner. He's not going to be a great partner. He's screwing over this woman. And he's screwing over you. And he's confused.
28:05🔗StrykerYeah, but he's getting a lot of action.
28:36🔗StrykerOkay. Basically my question is there's this guy like that's 18. And I heard that like there's a three year rule. So if you're like within three years of each other that it's legal. But then he's 18. So I don't know.
29:36🔗DrewGood for you. Again, we worry about the guy, not about you. If he's a good guy truly, we're okay with this. New HIV antibody test in the urine just came out.
30:14🔗StrykerIt's a puddle of sperm is what it is. Brooke. Yeah. Oh, that is puddle of mud. I thought you had pictures of naked men. So your question is, is it legal? Drew, what's the answer?
30:22🔗DrewAnn's going to run around trying to get that information.
30:53🔗StrykerOf course. Actually, I stopped taking it like a month ago because I had been gaining a lot of weight from it. Well, I mean, I gained probably like 10 pounds and I grew like a breast size and a half. Yes.
31:15🔗StrykerOkay. Anyways, so I was planning on switching to Debra Rivera, and I did some research online about it, and I showed, I mean, my mom's pretty involved in that kind of stuff, so I showed her what I looked up, and she was really scared about the whole part, about you may not get your period for like three months at a time.
31:37🔗DrewWhy does that scare her? Because it's not you may not, you will not. That's how it works. I mean, that's one of the things it does. You will bleed like crazy for three months, and then you will not bleed so long as you're on the shot after that.
32:06🔗DrewIs that a nice area? It's the only part of Chicago he knows. Glencoe? Jamie? Evanston? No. One thing you do need to worry about, and doctors don't spend a lot of time describing this to women, unfortunately, is it can affect your mood, it can affect your libido, your sex drive, that kind of thing. It's more of a masculinizing hormone than the estrogen, so people get muscular growth and sometimes even some hair and acne and things. It tends to go that way. So just as long as you understand that you're going to bleed for a while, then you're not going to bleed at all and you might have some other side effects, it's a very effective, very safe contraceptive.
32:58🔗AdamYou're sick. Just by chance, just wondering.
33:00🔗StrykerI had one more question for you actually. Yeah. It's kind of a totally different question, but when I'm fooling around with my boyfriend, I find that it's really hard to get him off with my hand. I have to do it all with my hand. I have to give him a hand all the time.
33:34🔗StrykerBut sometimes you're in the car, a hand is the only tool to time, correct? Yeah, exactly. Right, I know, I've been there. Are you using lubrication with the hand?
34:06🔗StrykerYou know what, tell him to turn his hand upside down when he does it to himself, it'll feel like you're doing it. And also, Jason wants me to put you on hold to get your address, okay? I'm just kidding. Bye, Jamie. Have fun in Chicago.
34:22🔗StrykerAll right, Jason Schwartzman is here, I'm Stryker and Dr. Drew, and Jamie, 24, you're on Loveline. What's up?
34:28🔗StrykerHey, guys. My question is sort of in a New Yorker's opinion, basically. There was this guy that I was dating for a couple months. Go out, have a good time, but we weren't having sex. We weren't really doing anything physically. One night, we ended up having sex, though, and he never called me again after that.
34:49🔗DrewWas, did he, how long, how long had you been dating before you had sex?
34:54🔗StrykerAbout two and a half months, and we hadn't done anything physical.
35:08🔗StrykerNo. That's really weird. Yeah, his name is Dave, but I'm just kind of wondering what that might be. And I mean, I called once, but I wasn't going to play the, you know.
35:20🔗DrewWhat did he say when you caught and talked to him?
35:22🔗StrykerHe didn't. I called and I talked to his roommate. I'm like, hey, is, you know, is he there? And he's like, no, I'm like, okay, we told him I called. And he didn't call me back. So I'm like, all right, well, I'm not going to play the stupid game.
35:34🔗StrykerNo, Sarah, you're not going out with him. He didn't call you anyways. Why don't we call him and find out the real story?
35:38🔗AdamYeah, why don't you let Jason have a little war with this Dave guy?
35:42🔗StrykerNo, I'm just, I'm kind of wondering. I mean, I could understand if, like, you know, maybe it was like we got drunk at a party or something. And it was just-
35:48🔗DrewWell, did he, during that two and a half months, was he intent on having sex with you? Was there pressure for that to happen?
35:55🔗StrykerYou're thinking they'll conquer thing, kind of, once he got it?
36:11🔗DrewMaybe just wasn't in this relationship. He was afraid that by sleeping, do we got in too far and just needed to get out. The whole thing is kind of weird, though. I gotta tell you, we'd have to talk to him to find out what's going on, because it's not a normal guy thing, what he's into.
36:23🔗StrykerOkay, because I thought, you know, and he's like 30 years old, and I'm like, okay, a 30-year-old guy is not gonna sit around for two months because he likes my company.
37:22🔗StrykerAll right, we got to take another break here. Thanks, you guys, for hanging out and being cool. I'm Stryker for Adam Corolla. Jason Schwartzman is here. If you want to talk to him about any of the movies, Rushmore or Slackers, which just came out, or his band, they'll be in here after 11 o'clock, Fan of Planet, and it's 1-800-LOVE-191, and more Loveline after this.
38:46🔗StrykerIf you want to speak to Jason about that, there's a band, they'll come in after 11 o'clock, nice young man we just met and they're passing out dates, not the fruit, actually.
39:05🔗StrykerNo, I'm not. It's hard to see. Yeah, it's just like your friend in there, who he never had lettuce growing up or something. Sam's friend. Right, Sam?
39:39🔗StrykerHe's like, I don't know, like if a guy calls, he like yells at him and tells him not to call me and like I used to have a diary that he would read and he goes through all my stuff.
40:47🔗DrewBecause that would kind of explain why he is so compulsive about this and why he can't. Jason, do your lines of drugs after the show, alright?
40:55🔗AdamI'm just showing you right now, instead of at the sock, there's some drugs going on.
41:00🔗DrewBut that kind of need to take Beek into control of and care for other people, it suggests that something really made him that way. The fact that he can't really respond to your realistic request for him to be less intrusive.
41:14🔗StrykerYeah, but what does she have to do to tell him, hey, maybe, I appreciate you doing this and looking out for me, but ease up a little bit.
41:21🔗DrewBut he's not going to be able to stop if indeed he was sort of the person throwing his body between.
41:24🔗AdamThere's always something alarming about a kid trying to act like an adult.
41:27🔗DrewYeah, it's not good. Parentalized children are not good for the kids. So, Brianna, if he can't control himself, you have to create consequences. If there are things that you and he enjoy together or things that you do for him, you have to start withdrawing these things until he gets the message.
41:41🔗StrykerFor instance, tell him, look, if you interrupt my call with the boy, I'm not going to sleep with you anymore.
42:36🔗My girlfriend and me, we broke up like five months ago, and then Friday night, I ended up hanging out. It was like the first time we hung out since then. She's seen someone else. We both got kind of drunk. She had a time that she really did love me, and she was sorry about everything, and we ended up sleeping together. Then the next day, I talked to her, and she was kind of like, what really happened last night? I know we had sex, but I really don't remember what I said, and all that stuff. Now she's like, well, I'm definitely going to break up with this guy, but I really don't know if I want to be with you. I really don't know what I want.
43:11🔗DrewYeah, she may be sort of chaotic and confused. On the other hand, she may be so deeply hurt by you're not responding to her intense feelings that she can't bring it upon herself to really let you know how she feels while she's awake, while she's not on drugs, lest you should reject or not reciprocate, that that is so scary, so awful to her, that she can't be honest with you about her real feelings.
43:35🔗Well, another thing was, while we were together, we were together for two years, and I had chemical dependency problems, like I get drunk all the time, get high all the time, stuff like that, and so another thing she always brings up is that she loves me, but she feels like she shouldn't love me.
43:49🔗DrewWell, she can't unless you do something about your drug addiction.
43:52🔗Well, yeah, I totally have. I've gone through...
43:54🔗StrykerWait a minute, you just got drunk the other night.
43:55🔗DrewYou got loaded last night. What are you talking about? Are you out of your mind? She's probably working an Al-Anon program that's sort of shaky and she gets loaded with you. It's bad for you. You're in no shape to be with someone who endorses that kind of behavior if you're a drug addict.
44:15🔗Well, yeah, I didn't get drunk. She got drunk pretty much.
44:18🔗DrewYeah. I understand at 19, this doesn't make sense to you, but so long as you're using drugs that activate your reward system, your disease is completely active and progressing. Right. So you're well under way, and it's probably smarter for not to get back involved with you.
44:32🔗StrykerHans, well, you're talking about her. Hans, what about you? Do you want to get back with this girl? I mean, if I was you, I wouldn't.
44:39🔗DrewHe wants a hostage, somebody to help let them keep going.
44:43🔗Yeah, I totally thought about it too, because she totally was what enabled me during a relationship.
44:47🔗DrewThat's right. You're both heading back down to where you started from. Unless you both have really changed and have been changed for a couple of years, this is not going to be good for either of you.
44:58🔗There's just no way I could really make this work.
45:00🔗DrewYeah, you could really work on an intense program in the recovery, 12-step.
45:04🔗StrykerAnd then see if you still like her, and I doubt you will then.
45:06🔗DrewListen to your sponsor's input, and she can go to an Al-Anon program, listen to her sponsor's input, and after six months, you maybe get back together.
45:12🔗Well, she really doesn't drink that often at all.
46:31🔗StrykerNo? Okay, we're going to take another break. It is time for break as Anderson says. More Loveline coming up with Jason Schwartzman, Stryker, and Dr. Drew Honam.
46:38🔗StrykerAll right, guys, bottom line, here's the deal. Looking to hook up.
46:41🔗StrykerSick of wasting time with the wrong person.
48:06🔗StrykerThe band Phantom Planet. We're talking about Jason Schwartzman, who's I'm speaking to right now, along with Alex and Sam. Yep. And then you went to Pally High.
48:28🔗StrykerJust playing like a wah-wah pedal. Jason, you probably tell it better than I.
48:30🔗AdamWell, I just- I was in the band. Darren was like the real first- we formed the band together. And in the eighth grade, I told my school that I had this amazing band, like we could play at the graduation thing. Right. I didn't have a band at all. So I remember Alex could sing. So I called Al. He came over. The three of us formed a threesome. We formed a threesome. Didn't have it. It was a very key word. And then we were this band. And then one day I met Jacques, the guitar player who's not here at a music store, asked him to come play with the band. He said he couldn't, but his best friend Sam played guitar. Right. Sam came down to practice. Jacques came along with him. History.
49:06🔗StrykerYou kept a fan, but you didn't get Jacques, right?
49:12🔗AdamI don't know. But yeah, so that's how the band formed. All right.
49:18🔗StrykerWell, cool. If you guys want to speak to these guys, you can call Loveline and ask him anything you want. Anything. Let's check out a track right now called California, song number one. Oh, wait, hold on. They're yelling at me.
49:29🔗AdamLet's get a question. Should we get a fan question?
49:31🔗StrykerWe will take a question here. And yeah, let's go to Phantom Planet question. Steve, you're 18. Thanks for waiting, man. You're on Loveline.
50:33🔗AdamIt's such an honor to be on this program. You gotta understand, we are from Los Angeles. We're 14.
50:37🔗StrykerI feel two feet tall now because I'm almost the same age. Well, a little older, and I was listening, too, and I'm sure they were hoping Corolla. I'm sorry, Corolla's not here, boys. No, no, you are.
50:44🔗StrykerGreat. You're a real great singer. Nirvana.
51:04🔗Well, how come it started getting all, like, heavy and, like, hard and everyone kind of got kind of got all mad at the world? And what happened to, like, you know, Radiohead and the Breeders, you know, like...
51:16🔗StrykerOkay, I will answer that question because a lot of stations like K-Rock play the same kind of music all over the place that are rock. If the Breeders put out something, in my opinion, that was spectacular, it would be on. Music right now is just, I mean, Linkin Park sold 5 million records, in my opinion, that's on fire. That's, it's good.
51:46🔗StrykerYeah, I mean, we play Coldplay. They're from down the street from Radiohead, and we're playing, God, I had the whole week off, now I'm drawing a blank on all the bands we play. Star Sailor, another good band, so up yours, Steve. Okay, it's 1-8.
53:10🔗My question is that I can't have an erection for more than three minutes and then I don't come and then I have to urinate like immediately afterwards.
53:57🔗DrewSo the stimulants make it difficult sometimes to have an erection, so.
54:00🔗Well, I haven't been taking stimulants that long. This has been going on for about a year or two and I've been taking ORAP for probably about three or four years.
54:34🔗DrewYeah. And listen, talk to your doctor about this because you shouldn't have to suffer these kinds of side effects. They're important and you need to be able to live your life normally. Yeah. I'm a rapist.
55:32🔗StrykerLeah, you sound sweet as can be. We'll put you on hold and give you Sam's number, okay? And Alex's number, actually. Right on. Okay, thanks.
55:53🔗StrykerWe're going to play a song from Phantom Planet. After the song, we'll tell you where they're going to be playing, then we'll take more calls, and it's all good like that.
56:08🔗StrykerWell, I'm glad I'm part of it. Here you go, you guys, from the band Phantom Planet. I'm going to play track number one. It's also on the Orange County Stand track, I believe. This is called California. Good job, you guys. Sounded really good. That was California from Phantom Planet, and they're here in the studio, and the video is on MTV2 right now.
59:44🔗StrykerYeah, Tivo, man. No, I just stay up really late.
59:47🔗StrykerGood, as do I. You guys are going to be playing at the USC campus on the 26th of February at 12 p.m. and then Aaron Records or something at 730.
59:56🔗StrykerIs that all right? Then the 27th, you're playing the UCLA campus. Yeah, that's right. Then you're playing in Long Beach that same night at Fingerprints.
1:01:57🔗StrykerWe need advice because she's really, really smitten with the Sello. We think he's unattainable, and we're really convinced, and once she figures it out, which will be fairly soon, she's going to be heartbroken. But we need to figure out what to do to help her get over such a thing, because we have this horrible feeling that she's going to let loose and become really uninhibited sexually and also...
1:02:18🔗StrykerLiar whore, liar whore, you know it.
1:03:07🔗StrykerYeah. The show is going down the tubes now. My first hour was good. I'm never going to get to do the show unless you're better, Lizette.
1:03:13🔗Okay. My name is Lizette and I'm 23. I'm calling from Santa Monica. My question is that I moved to California because I want to be a filmmaker. But basically, I ran away from home because I wasn't happy with my situation. I came to California thinking everything was going to change. But actually, things have not been worse but they haven't been different. They've just been the same only in a different location.
1:03:36🔗The problem at home was that my mom was an overbearing bee.
1:03:38🔗DrewWell, you're 23 years old. Why were you living at home?
1:03:41🔗CallerBecause, let's see, I was going to a private school, a private university, and I couldn't afford housing. And then me and my mom got in a fight and I ended up moving into housing. And halfway through the semester, I dropped out. And the day my 21st birthday was junior, I just left home. I just ran away because there was a guy in California that I fell in love with. And once I got here, he was like, Oh, you thought we were going to be together, like now. So then he kind of dumped me and then I stayed because I wanted to be a filmmaker.
1:04:05🔗DrewThank you. Luzette, you don't sound like you're capable of managing your own life. You're 23. Yeah, I'm not kidding. You go from this sort of enmeshed, controlling environment where your parents are over-involved in your life to this sort of fantasy world where other people are going to take care of you. And if they can't, you're going to magically become something successful.
1:04:27🔗CallerWell, it wasn't the fact that I thought I was going to be successful at first. I came to California because I thought my life wouldn't be better.
1:04:33🔗DrewAll right. Well, then start having a life. Get a job, get an apartment.
1:04:39🔗CallerOh, don't talk to me about jobs. I've had like 10 different jobs since I've been out here. I mean, it's always been successful.
1:04:44🔗StrykerHold on one sec. I know exactly what's going to happen to Luzette. You guys can back me up being from here. In about three weeks, she'll probably get a job. Maybe a crazy girl's dancing. She'll make good money. Then a man comes in. He's a producer, in quotes. Come to my casting couch. We're doing a movie next week. You'll get a thousand bucks. Porn. After that. Now she has money, but now she's going to be really loopy. Am I on the right path?
1:05:08🔗DrewShe's not going to go. Because somebody actually could go down that path. When she arrived here, the guy wouldn't go, Oh, I didn't know you were actually going to stay with me.
1:05:17🔗CallerNo, you're totally wrong. That's not the aspect of the film that I want to be in. The only point is that I just can't see my whole thing. I can't seem to get a control of my life at all in any aspect, relationship, education, financially. And I don't want to go back home because I'm going to feel like a failure. And if I go back home, I'm going to end up marrying my ex-boyfriend and having a kid and living with my brother.
1:05:36🔗StrykerOh my god, I'm going to hang myself, Luzette.
1:05:55🔗DrewShe dropped the suit. Everything's going to be fine.
1:05:57🔗CallerThis is the thing. I have a script that I want to sell. If you get the script called That Changes Everything by your manager over at UTA, don't throw it away. Okay.
1:06:05🔗DrewHe can't read it, Luzette. He cannot read it.
1:06:19🔗StrykerOh my God, Luzette, you're not going to be a failure.
1:06:22🔗AdamI feel bad that I threw a thumbstick in her eye.
1:06:24🔗DrewLuzette needs to establish a life. She needs a home base. You need good friends. You need a stable job. You need a stable living environment. If you'd like then to get involved in some training, or maybe even one of those jobs could be starting as a gopher in a studio and really hustling and learning the things from the ground up.
1:06:43🔗StrykerIf Season 3 comes around and it has the band, Luzette.
1:07:03🔗CallerWell, this is basically the same thing my mom's telling me, but I mean...
1:07:06🔗StrykerHold on. I'm just saying. Listen to what Drew said. Try to comprehend and quit thinking of your next ten sentences.
1:07:11🔗AdamHow can she hear at the station right now if she's in a payphone?
1:07:14🔗DrewThey hear it in the receiver. But I'm not your mom.
1:07:17🔗CallerI know you're not my mom. But try to hold a steady job. Every job that I've had has gone fired for some specific reason. Either I get a short, you know, I miss the part.
1:07:26🔗DrewThen there must be no stable jobs in Los Angeles and that magically everyone who gets a job gets fired very quickly. Or you've had some role to play in that and you ought to look very carefully at that.
1:07:36🔗CallerAll I can say is that I'm very lucky I haven't died out here because I am, it's really lonely, but it seems like everybody in LA is like on cracker. They have like their own agenda. You know, it's really hard to keep friends out here. I'm from Miami, that's the whole thing.
1:07:48🔗DrewLizette, you've got to get a foundation. You need a stable structure in your life. Or no one's going to hire you in any capacity because they're not going to trust that you can fulfill your job. Your life is not together right now.
1:08:02🔗StrykerWhy don't you hire a Drew? You need an assistant, you're telling me?
1:08:05🔗StrykerOkay. All right, we've got to take another break. I'm Stryker, feebly attempting to host the next 40 minutes of Loveline along with Drew and Phantom Planet is here. More of those guys coming up next on Loveline.
1:08:55🔗StrykerGot him. So Jimmy, we were playing at the Super Bowl party the other day. Live and direct. They're good. Who just asked me? Oh, you did. Drew said that. Drew, what do you care? He's good. Very good. Band at Arizona. All right. I'm Stryker in for Corolla. This is Loveline and Dr. Drew is here in the band Phantom Planet, Jason Schwartzman, Sam Farrar. Farrar.
1:09:42🔗StrykerHi, Kelly. Hi. I had a relationship question for you guys. I'm dating a guy that's about your age. He's 23. He's a bartender. I've been seeing him for about six months now, and I just recently asked if we could spend more time together. We had been seeing each other about once a week going out. When I asked him if we could see each other more, he kind of backed off, and he kind of said that he was too busy with school and work and that he wasn't willing to give me more time. So I'm just wondering why after spending six months together, he wouldn't want to go further in the relationship.
1:10:42🔗DrewAnd maybe he will get to a point where he wants to have some more. He didn't say, I don't want to see you anymore.
1:10:46🔗StrykerRight. I'm getting to the point where I don't want to see him anymore.
1:10:48🔗DrewThat's cool. That's good. That's a good... That's a healthy exchange. Totally healthy. He's told you where he is. You put your cards on the table and it may not work out. Much better than when you force yourselves into taking something neither of you, that one of you doesn't want, and end up six months later in the sort of quasi-relationship that's miserable for both of you.
1:11:26🔗StrykerThat's right. I'd be more than happy to date any of you. But she actually met, she's good friends with Melissa Joan Hart, and Melissa Joan Hart, I told her that she would be perfect for Jacques, and she just recently saw you guys play at the Rock Sea the other night.
1:12:24🔗StrykerOkay, well, my situation is, like, for the past three years or so, my brother has been getting into marijuana and alcohol, and, like, he hasn't been able to get off of it.
1:13:08🔗StrykerNo, well, see, also, he has gotten in a lot of trouble with the law, like, he did some vandalism at some schools. He crashed into someone's wall drinking while driving. He's on three years' probation now, and, like, he has to, he goes into drug tests even though he smokes. He sometimes comes, he somehow comes out clean.
1:14:09🔗StrykerWell, why aren't your parents doing anything about this?
1:14:13🔗StrykerLike, I'll tell them, but they don't believe me.
1:14:15🔗StrykerHow can they not believe you if he's on drugs, he's been arrested, he's crashed the car into a house, and he's messed up schools?
1:14:22🔗StrykerI don't know. I mean, they know he smokes, and my mom even goes to the... She orders home drug tests and...
1:14:32🔗DrewAll right, listen. You can't be his probation officer, you can't be his prison guard, but you can put a lock on your door. Put a nice big bolt lock or some sort of a barrel lock on your door.
1:14:46🔗StrykerYeah, I have a deadbolt on my door.
1:14:47🔗DrewAll right, deadbolt, and stay out of his crosshairs. Just stay the hell away from this guy. Get out of the house as much as you can, and stay away from this guy. Keep your environment very highly structured.
1:14:57🔗StrykerOkay, that's what I'm trying to do. And so far, it's been working, but there are times where it just all crashes down.
1:15:10🔗DrewNo, it's probably because you start sort of letting your guard down and being a little more comfortable and getting out in the open there where he can sort of get at you. Can't do that. You got to keep this guy...
1:15:19🔗StrykerKim, stay out of the house as much as you can, and when you're in the house, go to your room and put the lock on there, okay?
1:17:43🔗StrykerAnyway, I want to say it like I go to UCR and you guys filmed at UCR and that's probably like the coolest thing that's ever happened here.
1:20:13🔗StrykerSo my mom hasn't seen this guy. He's about 20 years older than she is. You'd think he'd be more mature, but they go in the room and they go in there and smoke pot. I don't feel okay with that going on in my house. So I was wondering if you could help me out to figure out what I should tell her to stop and stuff.
1:20:57🔗DrewBut what else are you going to do? You want to call the cops? You want to bust them? I mean, what are you going to do?
1:21:02🔗StrykerI don't know. I guess that's all I can do.
1:21:04🔗DrewShe's living her life. She's an adult. You can certainly tell her how it makes you feel and start to try to stay with those feelings and try not to be...
1:21:13🔗StrykerYeah, because this thing is really hypocritical to me.
1:21:16🔗DrewNo, that's not going to go over good. What you're going to have to say is, hey, this is how I feel when I see you hurting yourself like that and I feel violated and I don't like my home being dealt with like that. Just your feelings about it. Not a lot of you messages, you're this, you're that, you're hypocritical. Just here's how I feel when this goes on in the house.
1:21:37🔗StrykerWhat you should do is sneak in the room when they're not there, steal the pot, sell it at school, make a little profit.
1:21:41🔗DrewAs we said earlier, it's always bad when kids are parentalized.
1:23:16🔗StrykerDo we have time to do it right now or do we have to do it right now? Ah, Christ. All right, Larry, we're gonna put you on hold. We're gonna talk to you. We're gonna gamble in here and get out your wallet, you guys. We're gonna find out what's going on with her dad, you would say, or her mom. Play some dominoes.
1:24:45🔗StrykerAnd Dr. Drew at Loveline, and Adam Carolla will be back tomorrow. He's been in New Orleans. Phantom Planet is here. We have about 15 minutes left. Thank you guys for being here. 15 minutes? Hi. That's it. We're going to give the dates where you're going to be before you go. So if you guys are wondering where they're going to be, we will tell you. We were speaking to Lyric who has a boyfriend. Her best friend, though, a girl, is a lesbian. The boyfriend is now having feelings.
1:26:03🔗AdamWait, you guys forfeit, then I win all the money. Game over.
1:26:07🔗StrykerSo what's your question then, Lyric?
1:26:09🔗StrykerI don't really know what to do with this situation. I've talked to both of them, but they both denied it. But I can still really tell that they have some type of feelings for each other because whenever we're all together, they flirt and basically ignore me.
1:26:55🔗StrykerI'm just wondering if I should confront them both at the same time and...
1:26:59🔗DrewNo, because I wouldn't do that, but I would talk to both of them. And really, the important thing is to clarify with your boyfriend what is going on in this relationship that you're having with him. Is it going to continue? Is he committed to it? Is this time to break up?
1:27:16🔗DrewAnd let him know how his sort of carrying on has made you feel. Now, you've sort of created this situation for yourself by letting it go this far. This is a situation where boundaries are not being maintained or respected. And when that happens, S goes down.
1:27:33🔗StrykerAnd it's going down, all right Lyric? We're going to try to grab a couple more calls here.
1:28:15🔗StrykerYeah, I was wondering, like, lately I have this big obsession with going to the strip club in town, but I don't feel like I'm a lesbian, but like that's all I ever want to do is like go there. I mean, I don't even know what my own problem is.
1:28:31🔗StrykerKeanu, do you get the table dances?
1:28:43🔗StrykerYeah, I've had lots of boyfriends, but-
1:28:45🔗StrykerDo the girls hit on you that are doing your dances?
1:28:49🔗StrykerNot really. I mean, it doesn't seem to go like any farther than what they need to do. Because, you know, they're supposed to like turn you on or whatever, but-
1:30:23🔗StrykerNo, not really. I mean, occasionally.
1:30:26🔗DrewHave you ever had a problem with alcohol, some momentum with alcohol?
1:30:29🔗StrykerLike, a couple months ago, there was a week where I drunk pretty heavily because I was, like, really depressed.
1:30:35🔗DrewSee, to me, this is just sort of typical addict behavior. This is what addicts do when they try to manage feelings. They go into these very highly arousing or thrilling situations or take drugs that activate that same part of the brain as a way of trying to deal. And it may not even be something that's particularly enjoyable, but if you're depressed or you're anxious or you have unpleasant issues you're coping with, you may compulsively do things like steal or drive fast or go to strip bars or act out sexually.
1:31:03🔗StrykerInstead of doing the drugs you're drinking you're saying, right?
1:31:05🔗DrewYeah, it's all part of the same thing. And it sounds like that's what you're doing. Basically what people are looking for is kind of altering. They just want to go into sort of a transcendent state, almost like a trance state, to get relief, to get out of that. And you're not even experiencing any arousal out of this, but you still get that sort of transcendence, right?
1:31:26🔗DrewLike a daydream kind of thing. And escape is the word that we usually most addicts talk about.
1:31:30🔗StrykerWhat do you think that she needs to do, Drew, to maybe... I mean, do you think you're addicted to going to the strip club?
1:31:35🔗DrewI'm not saying that. It's just that she's got... she's set up for this. She's not there yet. And it's a sign, to me, that you've got some very heavy feelings you're trying to manage, and you need to go do that in a more productive way.
1:31:47🔗DrewFrom the same place. You need to go get a therapist or, you know, as Adam would say, find Jesus Christ, do something more productive with your life right now that really gets you managing these things. You're a lesbian. Go see a psychiatrist, see a therapist, see a clergy. Seriously, some people will find a meaning with their religious community.
1:32:13🔗DrewYou're not going to get anywhere getting lap dances. You're just going to keep sitting in there getting weirder and weirder kinds of lap dances.
1:33:12🔗StrykerAnd there's like this guy who always comes after me, and he's like a stalker. And he always, always comes after me, and I'm like, just leave me alone, you know?
1:34:23🔗StrykerYeah, we're back. It's Loveline, Stryker here, and about to wrap up with the guys that hung out here at Phantom Planet. Thank you for being here.
1:34:31🔗StrykerThank you so much, Brad. We had so much fun. This is like a dream away.
1:34:34🔗StrykerMan, I'm glad I was part of it. Super quick, February 26th over at USC, and then Aaron Records that night at 7.30. Go see him at Aaron Records on the 27th, playing UCLA during the day, and then Fingerprints at Night out in Long Beach. 28th of February, Rhino Records, 5 p.m. And all this is available on our website.
1:34:50🔗Strykerphantomplanet.com, phantomplanetfamily.com as well.
1:34:52🔗StrykerWhat is it? We have two websites. Okay. Well, you guys got them. All right. So for Dr. Drew.
1:35:14🔗StrykerAdam Corolla and Drew will be here tomorrow. So for Drew, I'm Stryker saying adios, muchacho.
1:35:19🔗DrewWave my magic wand, pow, you're gay. In case it wasn't.
1:35:22🔗StrykerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.