9:02🔗
Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla, this is Dr. Drew.
9:12🔗
No, I see it's plugged in there.
9:13🔗
Is it usually plugged in there?
9:15🔗
The shows were like, cannot perform.
9:19🔗
Voiceover
I'm screwed up. I'm spinning. I might as well just give me acid and put me on a potter's wheel. I cannot focus on the show today. Dr. Drew, everyone, board-certified physician, addiction medicine specialist, phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. We're very happy to welcome back to the show, Bad Religion.
9:39🔗
Thank you. Thank you so much.
9:41🔗
Adam
Today, you're all in here. Bad Religion is a band that I've been here on K-Rock for many, many, many, many a year. Many, many, many. Many a year. Bad Religion is coming on 20 years now? 21. Wow.
10:04🔗
Adam
I thought you started at like 40. We're heading down. I would be right. Okay. But you, you A-holes have started at zero and are heading toward, heading toward like 30 or something, right? Yeah. Oh, that's great. Bad Religion is one of the smarter bands in rock and roll. And they've been in here a couple of times, although we have not seen the fellas in a, it's been a couple of years now. So welcome back.
10:34🔗
Thanks. Think about you daily.
10:36🔗
Adam
Yes. Dr. Drew and Nappy Head. What the hell is that Brillo guy name? The Process of Belief is the name of the new CD. It will be out January 22nd. Bad Religion is going to be playing at the Acoustic Christmas on Saturday. And I will definitely be looking forward to seeing them. We will hear something off the new CD and give out some tour dates, I'm guessing, and all that good stuff. When was the last tour? How long has it been?
11:07🔗
Bad Religion
We have not been on a stage since March of this year. That was in South America. And we haven't been on stage in North America for one year. Our last show here was November 7th of 2000.
11:27🔗
Bad Religion
Oh, they love it. Basically, the Latin countries love Bad Religion because I think of the dominance of the Catholic Church in those countries. Right.
11:40🔗
We were one of the first punk bands to play in South America as well. I think the Ramones were quite popular when we showed up there. And then we were one of the... I think we were the second band after the Ramones.
11:56🔗
Bad Religion
No, because every year we... I don't know. Every year we seem to... Every time we put out a new record, it seems like the first time again. Right.
12:15🔗
I knew you looked familiar.
12:17🔗
Adam
See, the thing about a band that's been together for 21 years, that's cool. But a guy has been doing the same late night radio gig for 18 years.
12:26🔗
No, it's just like, you guys seem like teenagers.
12:29🔗
Your voices are like old.
12:42🔗
Just what is it that you want to do?
12:44🔗
We want to be free.
12:46🔗
We want to be free to do what we want to do.
12:49🔗
And we want to get loaded.
12:51🔗
And that's what we're going to do.
12:54🔗
We want to do what we want.
12:55🔗
We're going to have a good time.
12:59🔗
Adam
That was like a drop from the beginning of the Mother Station out here, K-Rock. And I don't know, we don't want to get too nostalgic tonight. But I used to listen to Loveline for the years when I grew up in LA. And I listen to Bad Religion. And so it's kind of weird being the old new guy here.
13:20🔗
The old new guy.
13:30🔗
Yeah.
13:34🔗
Caller
I've had three different sexual partners and I haven't been able to orgasm like. I think I might have been close, but I'm not sure.
13:46🔗
Drew
Well, first of all, that would be normal for a 16 year old, OK? It's rather unusual to find someone that can have an orgasm during intercourse at 16. What I'm concerned with is why three different guys already?
14:33🔗
Caller
No. Not at all. Like, at first, the first time I have. But now I'm really comfortable.
14:43🔗
Caller
I've been with all of them for a really long time. And the guy that I'm with right now, who's gotten me closer than anything, has been my best friend for, like, three years. And we've been together for, like, almost seven months.
15:08🔗
Bad Religion
You know, sometimes the problem can be, if you put too much emphasis on orgasm, then you actually...
15:15🔗
Caller
It's not that important to me. It's just I want to know if there's, like, something wrong, because I have a friend who has, like, a million times, you know, and I just feel like...
15:27🔗
Drew
And I think more over, you need to understand that there are some people that just do it a million times, have no problem with it. Women have a greater spectrum of responsiveness. Most are not finding their spot until they're 18, 20, 22.
15:41🔗
Bad Religion
I mean, Drew, you can back me up on this. A woman's sexual prime is much later than a teenage male, right?
15:47🔗
Adam
And in some, in women, like I said, it's all over the map. Guys are real consistent. I mean, how much does the average 16-year-old guy vary sexually? And how much does the average 16-year-old girl vary sexually? It's quite a bit. And I believe that some women just, you know, just essentially bogart the orgasms. They hoard. You know, Connie over here is having 75, and I got nothing. Give me one of those. They're like some sort of land barons or something, or slumlords or something. They hog all of the orgasms. And poor Kimberly. And the more Kimberly focuses on it, the farther away she's going to get from it.
16:31🔗
Bad Religion
This is my advice, though. Whatever you do, do not buy a vibrator, because you're having trouble. Right.
16:38🔗
Bad Religion
And you resort to the vibrator, then what will end up happening is you get hooked on that thing, and then you'll never be able to do it with that one.
16:44🔗
Adam
It's taking the easy way out. It's like getting on the steroids or something, so it's just working out. You'll pay down the road. James?
16:52🔗
Yes.
16:58🔗
Adam
22. OK. The screen says 42. Oh, well, now I know why the screen says 42, by the way. It's by the way James pronounces his own age. That's right. All right.
17:16🔗
Caller
How about, I've been married for two years, been on my wife for four, got a daughter. I, in every single night, I dream, well, practically, I'm in a couple of breaks in between, but pretty much every single night, I dream sexually about other women, other my wife. And I don't know why.
17:50🔗
Well, she's three.
17:59🔗
Drew
Yeah. You got to talk to her doctor about this. That is not really an acceptable state to be in. It can really affect your relationship, man.
18:12🔗
Adam
Well, you talk to the doctor. I agree with Drew. Tell him you're going to need some rofies. Yeah.
18:18🔗
Drew
No, again, the medication really can shut women down terribly. They'll describe feeling sexless, like there's no sexual route. Sex doesn't even make sense to them, sort of an uncomfortable nuisance. And that's the biology they get in. It's more so than what women feel around you.
18:39🔗
Caller
Just depression. She's pretty much been depressed all her life. And I didn't know that when I first got with her because she was like smoking so much pot. She was always happy.
18:49🔗
Adam
This is why you don't get pregnant at 17 and, you know, get married at 20, though, right?
19:13🔗
Adam
This is this going to be this going to be some work here, James. You know what I'm saying?
19:18🔗
Drew
But you signed on for active duty. You got a kid, you got a wife now. Yeah. This project is yours.
19:25🔗
Adam
These I don't know how to convey it to the guys when they hook up with these. And I don't want to say that women who've been through a lot don't need to be loved and don't need relationships. But having the kids and getting married before the work has been done is is is is a trap that a lot of guys fall into. And it's 17, 18, 19. I mean, you're so ill prepared to deal with this. You've got somebody who's being an alcoholic dad, gave him a little abuse. They're kind of spinning around. They got depression problems and maybe some chemical imbalance. You pop out a couple of kids and get hooked up with them and then realize three years into the gig, hey, this person is it needs some serious work. Yeah, Drew? Yeah? We get paid the same? Yeah. Okay, thanks buddy.
20:32🔗
First team, offense and defense. Let me tell you, there's no parade for the Corolla boy when he came off that sideline. But I played everything with the specialty team.
20:44🔗
Not one. Not one game did they show up to.
20:47🔗
Adam
And I'll tell you what, I still hate my dad for it, but at least that son of a bitch Alexis, you know why, because he's so pathetic.
20:53🔗
He's so pathetic, Drew.
21:03🔗
Adam
Drew trying to study for his re-ups on his medical boards, me with a couple of high balls in me going off on a tangent.
21:11🔗
Drew
The part that you don't get that you can't really recreate here is that tirade going, I'm checked out, all of a sudden there's silence. It just all of a sudden stops. I become aware that the tone has changed. I look over and he'll have the lovey shades on, the glideshades over his eyes, feet up, out, tongue hanging out, take on.
21:30🔗
Adam
That's when the ambient kicks in and mixes with the Bloody Marys. But don't worry, I'm just recharging the batteries, Drew. I'll be back. Amber?
21:39🔗
Yeah.
21:43🔗
Caller
Oh, yeah. I want to know what's up with no one giving my Bad Religion props. They're just calling for their own problems.
22:10🔗
Caller
Okay, Brett. So how were you able to stay productive, like in your drug days and stuff like that? And like, you know how some people like shut off to the world and some people can like just be like enlightened and stuff?
22:24🔗
Bad Religion
I was never productive during my drug days. My productive years always were in between when I was clean. And I'm just not one of those people who are productive or creative when they take drugs.
22:39🔗
Bad Religion
In fact, we would go a long time without even seeing Brett when he would basically go away for a number of years without really even keeping in contact.
22:49🔗
Drew
I'm not sure I've actually met that person that is actually genuinely more productive or more creative when they're on drugs.
22:54🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah. It may be a myth, but you know, I mean, we've all heard about the Jimi Hendrix and the Miles Davis who are quite creative on, you know, with their drug. But I'll tell you, during my period of using narcotics, I was very, very unproductive.
23:17🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah. Even, you know, even before I crossed the line into addiction, whatever that means. But I think that, you know, there is a point when that happens. And I, it never really, you know, opened a door to creativity for me. I'm not saying that that doesn't happen for some people, but not for me. My experience is that my periods, when I've been clean and focused, I've been much more creative and productive.
23:52🔗
Caller
So yeah, I just want to know if like me being smart, you know, on the drugs would last or whatever.
24:01🔗
Drew
There's tons of studies that show that people feel like they're smarter, believe they're more creative. And yet, when they ask people then to reassess what they've created off the drugs, they think it's crap, basically.
24:27🔗
Adam
Yeah, but this is like saying you're a better fighter when you're drunk. You're not more coordinated, you're not stronger, your reflex is better.
24:36🔗
Adam
You're less, yeah, a guy can hit you with a table leg and it's not gonna do as much damage because you're loaded and you're numb, but it doesn't make you into like a more skilled fighter. It just makes you more apt to fight and more accepting of it.
24:49🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah, you know, I think drugs can often be a social lubricant, you know, but it's not, you know, creating is something that takes, takes focus. It's a different, it's a different thing.
25:02🔗
Adam
Yeah. That would, that social lubricant is something I probably would have invented when I was high on mushrooms.
25:10🔗
Adam
When I get high on mushrooms, I would stare at the TV and I would see a lead press on nail commercial and I'd go, these chicks take long pieces of red plastic, man, like where their claws are and they stick them on to make them longer and to attract the males of their species and then the next commercial would be a monster truck commercial and they'd show the crowd going nuts and they'd be like, bigger trucks smashing smaller cars and the crowd goes wild, man, where are we living?
25:46🔗
Bad Religion
And the hours rolled by and the days went by and you went, oh, I gotta get out of here.
25:55🔗
Adam
They, they, they do, yeah. You start calling, like, you stop, like, you stop calling your buddies rain, you start calling them evil presence.
26:04🔗
Adam
You are an evil presence, dude. I cannot handle this. The worst is when you have some obnoxious, but when you start mixing drugs, like, you're getting really groovy on the mushrooms and some friend shows up all coked up. And he's, like, spazzing out and you're, like, whoa. Well, you know, there's a sharp contrast between the highs. That will not, that will not do. That will bum the high out.
26:25🔗
Evil pot-smoking hand jobber.
26:39🔗
Yes?
26:46🔗
Caller
My problem is that I work with a bartender on a weekly basis, whose roommate raped me two years ago. Now, he's stealing and I want to say something.
26:59🔗
Caller
I'm afraid of what his roommate has told him, of what is going to happen. His roommate also works for the company.
27:22🔗
Adam
Oh, okay. And the guy who's the bartender who's stealing, what kind of relationship do you have with him?
27:32🔗
Drew
So why, if you're just, just as Playdevil's advocate, the bartender is sort of some guy who works there. You just happen to observe him stealing. You don't have a great affection for where you work.
27:48🔗
Caller
Because I don't want to get in trouble. How would you? I work with him on the same shift.
28:00🔗
Caller
Not in the past, but it's not necessarily stealing money. I mean, stealing other things as well.
28:09🔗
How would he do big enough volume?
28:24🔗
Bad Religion
I thought that was the rule that you sign on. Like you get some amount of free stuff.
28:32🔗
Bad Religion
I want to know why you're friendly with a guy who's roommates with a guy who raped you.
28:46🔗
Drew
But it suggests that victim is a role you're familiar with and people close to you have victimized you.
29:07🔗
Caller
I haven't, no. I mean, I didn't have a great family. Like, you know, my brother was a drug addict.
29:12🔗
Caller
My mom tried to kill herself. But other than that, like, I mean, not me personally, I haven't been victimized.
29:27🔗
Caller
I mean, I haven't told him. I don't, what I'm worried about is what his roommate told him. You know, he probably told him, I don't know, the way he is, I think he probably told the bartender they work with it. I'm a whore and I slept with him.
29:39🔗
Adam
All right. Well, I sort of agree with, I think it's Greg who said, I don't know, what's in. I mean, if you're not going to press charges against this guy, I would just kind of turn my head the other way. I mean, why dig this whole thing up?
29:56🔗
Drew
I'm really concerned though about her judgment with whom she is close with, why she is so easily victimized and plays that role so well.
30:07🔗
Caller
No, well, I was hanging out. I mean, I work in a restaurant. I was in Bumble Artender. We all went out after work. We drank a lot. And I ended up back at my friend's apartment. I didn't even really know his roommate that well. And, you know, everyone went to sleep and I sort of passed out. And when I woke up, I mean, he was raping me.
30:26🔗
Caller
I told him to stop. I told him I didn't want him to, you know, and he basically held me down and raped me.
30:44🔗
Adam
All right. I don't know. Like, I want to tell everyone, just bring everyone to justice. But on the other hand, I know it's kind of like unrealistic. Is there any part of you that wants to file this with the police?
30:55🔗
Caller
I mean, now it's been so long. I'm really just, I don't think. I'm afraid of what everyone else would say because I don't think. I mean, I think it's really going to be perceived as the fact that I was really drunk and, oh, big deal.
31:08🔗
Drew
Well, you're not going to get this guy this far out. There's no way. But you might be able to establish a pattern. So if someone else does step up.
31:16🔗
Adam
Especially if there's already something on this guy's record of these kind of complaints.
31:20🔗
Drew
That's the point. And it also breaks this pattern that you seem to have of being a victim. Right.
31:28🔗
Adam
Yeah, but you know, you sound, I mean, maybe with the victimization stuff, but you sound angry. And like, how, you know, I don't think you're that concerned about this guy stealing, but it sounds like you sound angry.
31:46🔗
Adam
I think you're pissed off. I think you obviously are, because this guy's walking with, you know, 46 bucks every night. And who gives a rat's ass? You're getting people loaded and they're driving off the road for a living. So what do you care? You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, there's not that much. I mean, look, I wish I was a bartender back when, but there's not much nobility in it. Everyone steals and that's the name of the game. So focus, I mean, take some of that anger that you have toward this guy who's stealing and focus it toward the guy who really did the damage. And I say it would be a cathartic experience to go in and just report this. And then somewhere. Just go in and talk to somebody, ask them something. Look, it just happened a year ago. Here's what happened. What do you think? Can I file a complaint? What should I do?
32:30🔗
Adam
All right. Well, you know how you know, by the way, and I know it sounds like we're piling on sometimes because stuff happens to people. Now, instead of focusing on the a-hole who did it, we start focusing on them and why it happened. But we know there's something going on because when people that grow up in a good environment and are healthy and strong emotionally, when someone jumps on them, they just start screaming bloody murder.
32:58🔗
Adam
Well, you're drunk and you're passed out or whatever, but you don't freeze up. The victims freeze up, and that's what makes them victims, and that's what happened to them years ago.
33:13🔗
Bad Religion
And now she's mad at his roommate because he's taken 46 cents worth of liquor every night.
33:17🔗
Adam
Right. She should report this. I'm sorry for what happened, but focus on the real crime here, not the focus on the felony, not the misdemeanor. Oh, okay, that's good, right?
33:32🔗
Adam
I often have to coax that out of people in the room. Bad Religion here. Oh, we're gonna hear something off the new CD, right?
33:39🔗
Bad Religion
Thank you. Thanks for the being a gallery up there. It's great you guys got a live audience now.
34:18🔗
Adam
Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Carolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Bad Religion is our guest tonight.
34:30🔗
Adam
The Process of Belief is the name of the new CD. It is out January 22nd. So not just yet, but be waiting. Brett and Greg and Jay are all here from the band. We're gonna hear something off the new CD in just a moment. I think what we'll do is we'll take a call and then play a song. 311 is in here tomorrow night and then Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Kitas is going to be in here next week. So that ought to be interesting. And let's get to the phones and speak to Mike, who's 25. Mike.
35:11🔗
Bad Religion
Let me first say hey Adam, Drew, you guys are great. I've followed you through four states now.
35:28🔗
Bad Religion
Texas and Colorado. I get you guys on a 23-hour delay, but I used to when I had a radio.
36:09🔗
Drew
You must have lots of trouble with relationships, Mike. One of your exes rips you off and you're still calling about another one tonight and you've called Loveline multiple times. It's a bad sign.
36:24🔗
Bad Religion
Well, lay down the base story. I was dating a girl for three years. We moved from Texas to Colorado to go to truck driving school together. We met this individual, this other girl up here. My girlfriend was a bi-curious and we got into the relationship with the other girl. We had a live-in threesome going.
36:58🔗
Adam
Well, but listen, Ray. I mean, I was just yelling at my buddy Ray. That's why. Drew, you condemn not only truckers, but people who live. You don't like truckers.
37:13🔗
Adam
You want your good ship cross-country, but you don't want to know how it got there. That's what I'm saying about you. But here's the deal. Do you think it's the people who are living in these threesome relationships or is it the threesome relationship?
37:28🔗
Adam
I would contend that if me and you and any member of Bad Religion decided to really get together and have a good threesome relationship, we could pull it off.
37:45🔗
Bad Religion
You want to hear my slant on this? You see, the problem is that most people who invite a partner into bed with them do it to fix their relationship, and they do it when their relationship is on the rocks, thinking, oh, this will add some spice. That's exactly the wrong time to do it.
38:15🔗
Drew
That's another problem. Each one thinks we're the ones. And the fact that they want the threesome sort of suggests they're not. It's circular.
38:31🔗
Adam
All right. So, well, listen, listen, Drew, come down over there. So, you had your threesome...
39:15🔗
Bad Religion
No, no, no. The one girl was one of the, she worked for the truck driving school and we met her there.
39:27🔗
Bad Religion
Well, not really. She set up the pilot. I started to feel that I was losing both of them to each other.
39:36🔗
Bad Religion
And I got frustrated and I have one of those anger problems and I hit a wall, broke my finger.
39:44🔗
Bad Religion
And then... This always worked out. Well, because I was always taught never to hit a woman.
39:51🔗
Bad Religion
Smart move. I didn't hit my fiancé at the time. I turned around and hit the wall.
39:57🔗
Adam
Right. Broke your finger and that was the one you used to activate the turn indicator. So you were thrown out of truck school.
40:04🔗
Bad Religion
And got oil spotted by the two girls because it was all over and they left you behind.
40:11🔗
Bad Religion
They moved out to the one sister's place and a week later after I broke my hand, my fiancé, who I just asked to marry me, you know.
40:33🔗
Adam
Okay. But not, not, not of your loins? No. Okay. Fine. So here's what I think we can all agree on this, Mike. You're 25 years old. You have no kids. You're not married to any of these crazy hillbillies. You have and it sounds like an intelligent guy who sort of, there's something sort of articulate or interesting about Mike for a guy. Look, put it this way.
41:03🔗
Adam
Well, but what I'm saying is, if you read Mike's resume, you would expect a different sounding guy.
41:10🔗
Adam
You know what I mean? Like one of the guys who played the banjo from Deliverance or something like that.
41:16🔗
Adam
Mike truly is. Mike, you got a good mind and you're not strung out on drugs. We don't think. Right?
41:25🔗
Adam
Okay. But you're not strung out on a substance per se. You don't have a bunch of illegitimate kids. You don't have a bunch of axes. You don't owe anyone money. You're not wanted by the police. Right? No. Okay. It's time for you to sort of focus a little bit here. Stop getting caught up with these chaotic women. Stop living in the past. Do something about the anger. Find your niche in life. Think about what you want to do. Your mind works fine. Once you go to school, study for something, get a career and move ahead in life.
41:56🔗
Adam
Listen, screw her. She's in the past. You got a lot of anger in you. She's with the instructor.
42:03🔗
Bad Religion
My question was, I'm stuck here a thousand miles away from my family and I'm not a suicidal person, but occasionally that handful of time I'll be in kind of looks good.
42:30🔗
Bad Religion
Well, this was, I mean, three-year relationship, everything I've known, everything I've lived for.
42:38🔗
Adam
These two were nut jobs, Mike. You're not that stupid. I don't think you're that stupid. I just think you're depressed and you got to do something about that.
42:46🔗
Bad Religion
Well, that's because I have a decent job here in Colorado, but my thought, and I have this problem that I run away from my problems, my thought is that maybe I should just kind of vanish off the face of the earth for a while.
43:04🔗
Drew
That is a thought that comes from profound biological disturbance of your brain. We call that depression. And the quality of that thought is a sort of expression of how bad that situation is, how much you're affected by your depression, by your biology. So let's go get that taken care of.
43:28🔗
Adam
Can he, can he, why don't you talk to him during the break? We'll play a Bad Religion song. Okay, let's do that.
43:35🔗
Adam
I know, but let me just throw it to the song and then I'll get the thing. Oh, you want to go to break, Anderson? Yeah, we can't squeeze a Bad Religion song. Let's just play like the first ten seconds of the song and we'll fade out and go to break. That works. Yeah, that's good.
43:54🔗
Bad Religion
Make sure you don't lose the guy on the phone. I'm a little more worried about him than the Bad Religion song.
43:59🔗
Adam
Good angle, good angle. That's going to move some product. We'll take ourselves a little break. We'll be back with the concerned Bad Religion after this. Hey, everybody, Loveline. Bad Religion in here tonight, 311 in here tomorrow night. Greg and Brett and Jay are all here from the band. We're going to hear something off the new CD. I think we should just hear it now, right?
45:08🔗
Adam
Thank you. It's a possibility. The Process of Belief is the name of the new CD, out the 22nd of January, and this one is called Sorrow. Love that Bad Religion.
48:43🔗
Adam
Fantastic. You know what I like about that song? Never heard it before, enjoyed the hell out of it first time around.
48:54🔗
Adam
Yeah, that was nice. Bad Religion, everybody. The Process of Belief is the name of the CD out on the 22nd of January and I am going to see them at the Acoustic Christmas on Saturday and be real happy. How many songs do you think you will do?
49:17🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah, we will be playing that one and we will be playing some of the old favorites.
49:21🔗
Bad Religion
We just want to basically let everybody know that the record is coming out and thank K-Rock too. They are playing the damn thing. Can you believe it?
49:39🔗
Caller
I just wanted to say hi to Bad Religion. You guys are absolutely my favorite band in the whole world.
49:46🔗
Caller
Yeah, Greg, you are just absolutely brilliant, like comparable to John Lennon or Jimmy.
50:09🔗
Caller
I wanted to ask you guys like two questions. What do you guys feel about what's going on in Afghanistan right now? What the United States is doing?
50:19🔗
Caller
Yeah. The other one was just could you explain the song Seize? I just think it's amazing.
50:25🔗
Bad Religion
All right. Well, luckily we just got back from a promo tour of Europe where we were asked this question virtually every day for a week. We've been kind of silent on the issue because it's a pretty serious topic to talk about. And we are a band. We're not political leaders. But we do sing a lot about social issues. And basically, we are not pro-war. We don't believe in war. We suggest that you avoid war at all costs.
51:15🔗
Bad Religion
And it's also hard to say. It's really, you know, the thing is so fresh and new. And we get so little information from over there. You know, we hear the same news every day. We pounded Kabul. You know, one thing I think that we can say with certainty from the stance of bad religion is that as a result of this war on terrorism, that many of our civil liberties may be in danger. And I think it's important for young people in bands and watchdog organizations to make sure that our civil liberties are protected in this time of crisis.
51:51🔗
Adam
The thing that happens to me with these in the time of wars, I start incorporating some of the language into my everyday conversation. Like I got a stronghold, which is my garage, you know, and you just, these things like stronghold, you know, the Taliban stronghold, you just hear about it every day. And you hear about the theater and you hear about sorties.
52:18🔗
Adam
Right, right. And you go, I'm going to do a sortie down to the Circle K. You guys need anything?
52:29🔗
Adam
So that's an important part of what's going on over there. Do you have a second question for the guys?
52:34🔗
Caller
Yeah. Just for Greg, on The Gray Race, you write a Cs. I just think it's an absolutely fantastic song. I spent literally hours not doing my homework, analyzing that song. And I just want to know what you think, what you're trying to convey.
52:54🔗
Bad Religion
Well, that song, it's an interesting contrast because it seems to be almost nihilistic in saying everything must cease. But somewhere in that seemingly negative statement, it's surrounded by a bunch of hopeful elements. Because basically I believe that even though we live in a closed universe and we live in a place that I don't believe in spirituality in the sense that it's projected to us from some higher deity, I don't think that's meaningless or hopeless. I think in fact it gives us the option to look for meaning in the world we have here.
53:36🔗
Drew
That's what I like about Greg and Bad Religion. If any other band gets asked that question, it's whatever you think means to you.
53:45🔗
Bad Religion
Well, it still comes down to interpretation. The best thing about music in general is that the listeners get to interpret it the way they want.
53:55🔗
Adam
Yeah. If you think about it, it wasn't them who broke up with this girl that you're writing about. It wasn't them who got fired from this job or had their dad kick off or something. So why not just take whatever the energy of the song is and translate it into whatever their life is? Yeah.
54:19🔗
Adam
Right. Like what I did with, I remember Ferre Jacques all those years ago. I turned it into my own family structure. Pain and work that, twisted that around.
54:31🔗
Adam
Had no idea it was about a French cook. What the hell is that? What's that song about? We'll be right back. Vive la France. We'll take ourselves a little break. Bad Religion is our guest tonight and we'll be back with them after this.
55:49🔗
Adam
Hey, folks, Loveline. I'm Adam. That is Dr. Drew over there. Brett, Greg, and Jay are all here from Bad Religion. Process of Belief is the name of the CD, out on the 22nd of January, and we'll hear another cut off of that CD sometime in this 11 o'clock hour, 311 in here tomorrow night. And is 311 playing the Acoustic Christmas too? Yes. Sort of makes sense.
56:24🔗
Adam
Yeah, good guys. So we'll look forward to them Sunday night. All right. Let's take some calls and start off with Andrew who's 15. Andrew.
56:34🔗
Bad Religion
Hey, Andrew. Hi. I have a really strange birth defect. I was born with a third leg. It's not a complete third leg, but it's got like the foot and the toes and everything, and it's sort of coming off from the pelvis, and I was wondering if this could be passed on if I were to have a child.
57:59🔗
Adam
The band is falling apart here. Well, wait a minute. Wouldn't this thing... If this was a legitimate call, wouldn't this thing be removed at birth?
58:18🔗
Adam
I know, but this guy is 15 years old. It wasn't born in the 1800s. I mean, this thing would be removed early on. Let's ask.
58:36🔗
Bad Religion
Do you live with your parents? My mother couldn't afford it. She really didn't even have the money for it.
59:14🔗
Bad Religion
I don't know. I guess he said he didn't like the city. Like he's more of like, you know, the country type of person.
59:41🔗
Drew
Yeah, him and your dad. Because I've heard of some interesting orthopedic, weird orthopedic birth defects in sons of heavy pot-smoking dads.
59:56🔗
Bad Religion
But developmental traits like this normally aren't passed on to the next generation.
1:00:05🔗
Adam
Andrew, you can't smoke weed because you can't get high and look at a third leg. You just go out of your mind. I get high and look at a zit and go insane.
1:00:27🔗
Drew
Go to the county hospital, LAUSC. You're in Torrance. Go to the county hospital. Or go to the harbor.
1:00:37🔗
Bad Religion
My aunt is a really good seamstress, and she's able to make special pants for me.
1:00:51🔗
Bad Religion
We have five guys in here. How many think this is a real call, and how many think this is a fake call?
1:01:00🔗
Adam
I think you can't. But Drew is on board with it. But let's at least agree on this. It can no way be as big as his femur. I mean, because from your knee to your hip, even on a regular size 15-year-old kid, that's 16, 14, 16 inches easily.
1:01:17🔗
Bad Religion
Even as an infant, do you wear a shoe on it? The doctor would have immediately noticed it as when he was born, and it would have been removed, wouldn't it?
1:01:51🔗
Drew
Does he seem like somebody, Adam, hang on a second, who's processing, trying to one-up us and thinking, No, no, no. He's telling you what's on his mind.
1:02:13🔗
Bad Religion
My hip is kind of like funny, like it's kind of like sort of lopsided a little bit.
1:02:30🔗
Bad Religion
Andrew, have you resigned yourself to just accept this and you're not going to get it, I mean, do you want to get it fixed or removed? Because it seems the only thing that's on your mind right now, you're 15 years old and you're worried about reproducing. Isn't there a more immediate concern of getting the thing taken care of?
1:02:57🔗
Bad Religion
Right. I'm mostly staying at home, I'm homeschooled, everything's done at home.
1:03:19🔗
Adam
Now he's sounding like he is. What about this? I know this sounds radical. How about, instead of removing the leg, we add a third arm. Just to kind of add some symmetry.
1:03:36🔗
Adam
Okay, let me just ask a few questions about this third leg. In inches, how long is it?
1:04:15🔗
Bad Religion
You're 15, you've had this thing on your body your entire life and you don't know how many toes are on it?
1:04:24🔗
Liar whore, liar whore, and you know it.
1:04:35🔗
Adam
And how, like if you get a pedicure, a regular price? And so four toes and a heel and an arch and an ankle?
1:05:08🔗
Bad Religion
Um, a very slight amount. Like, it'll... I can make it go out a little bit, but that's about it.
1:05:22🔗
Bad Religion
This is the thing, Andrew. This is the thing. If you're... If you're pull... If you're pulling our leg, then you deserve to be laughed at, you know? But if it's a real call, then this is very sad, and then I'll feel terrible for laughing.
1:05:39🔗
Adam
We need to take it as a serious call and say that you must present yourself to a to a university.
1:05:48🔗
Adam
And they'll take care of it. They'll probably be very interested in it. And you can talk to say so. He's in Torrance.
1:05:56🔗
Adam
Go to Harbor General. Just to have your aunt or your mom or whoever drive you down there and let him. But I just I can't believe that Drew, what a doctor, this guy was born in 1986 for Christ's sake. In 1986, is a hospital going to let the guy go home and never follow up with it?
1:06:30🔗
Adam
Wouldn't you, if you moved from out of state and you just moved to Hawaiian Gardens side unseen, do you think you'd have a legitimate lawsuit against that city? Your Honor, when I read Hawaiian Gardens, I thought I was moving into some sort of tropical utopia and it's nothing but industrial parks and gunfire. I would sue. I think you could sue the planners of the city and make some money. All right, Cody?
1:06:58🔗
Yeah.
1:06:59🔗
Caller
Yeah. Adam, Drew, you guys are gods. I love you. I listen to you every night for about three years.
1:07:07🔗
Caller
I have two. All righty. Adam, my girlfriend gets jealous about how much me and my guitar player talk about you. We talk about you every day.
1:07:17🔗
Caller
We actually knocked off your name, Sprew, but we're actually coming up with a different name called Mediocre Presidents.
1:07:32🔗
Adam
Hate Plow is a name I've been tossing around for a band. I think would be a good edgy sounding band.
1:07:50🔗
Caller
Yeah. Actually, I hate to say it, but I made up my question to talk to Bad Religion.
1:07:54🔗
Caller
All right. Mr. Brett, you're incredible. Me and my friend Bobby, we talk about you all the time. He thinks you're God.
1:08:06🔗
Caller
In the Flat Earth Society, the chorus, it says, the bright ship humanity is sailing far away.
1:08:15🔗
Bad Religion
I can't remember. It's whatever you mean. Yeah. It was mankind's progress kind of moving forward mindlessly and without deliberation.
1:08:29🔗
Caller
Okay. I just want to know because in one of my songs that I'm writing, I quote that right there and I just wanted to get my bearings straight on that.
1:08:38🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah. It seems like sometimes we indulge in technology for technology sake and progress isn't really progress and that's what it's getting at.
1:08:47🔗
Adam
Like when you get interviewed and people want to know what your mindset was when you're ripping off bad religion, you can tell them.
1:08:58🔗
Caller
Yeah, that and I was also wondering in I Want to Conquer the World where it says, is your fecundity a tremor or a treasure?
1:09:32🔗
Adam
All right. I want to, we're going to hear another Bad Religion song. Drew, read the box with the song title in it. And what does that mean? Tell him not to hang up after.
1:09:49🔗
Adam
Really? All right. Well, we screwed that because we hung up, right? Okay. We can go back. Well, let's all, let's make a little comeback with some more Bad Religion. What? This song is called The Defense. There you go, Bad Religion.
1:13:55🔗
Thank you, thank you.
1:14:00🔗
Adam
Brent and Greg headed out to the car to hear the song over the radio, to hear how the compression went.
1:14:10🔗
Bad Religion
Well, we got... Pretty good. It's because we got a rental car, and, you know, rent-a-car stereos are not very good.
1:14:22🔗
See? See?
1:14:24🔗
Adam
See, I... It sounded great in here, but the band was explaining about compression and how that changes.
1:14:31🔗
Bad Religion
These are killer studio speakers in here. Right. You know, 99% of the people who hear that song are going to be listening on those crappy car stereos, so... The goal, when you're making a record, is to make it sound great on the crappiest speakers you can find.
1:14:59🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah. Definitely. Most of the radio stations, if they're not a class act like K-Rock, they have some schmoe who doesn't even know how to set the compressors to make it sound good. Sorry.
1:16:32🔗
Adam
No bad religion in the studio tonight. In the house. In the hissy. Over here. 311 in here tomorrow night.
1:16:48🔗
Adam
We will get back to the phones and speak to Alex who has a question for Bad Religion. Alex?
1:17:00🔗
I'm really excited to talk to you guys.
1:17:07🔗
Bad Religion
First question, would you guys influence it all by Frank Zappa? Because I noticed that since Bobby Shear left the band, and is it Brooks Wackerman?
1:17:18🔗
Chad Wackerman's little brother.
1:17:40🔗
Bad Religion
Oh, right. Not really in Bad Religion, although I really love Frank Zappa. I wouldn't say that he served as an influence in our music.
1:17:48🔗
Oh, yeah?
1:17:56🔗
A little bit.
1:18:08🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah. I was wondering, like, songs like Leave Mine to Me and I think On the Promised Land, you guys kind of use this kind of like relativistic kind of, I don't know, language. I was wondering if you guys really buy into that sort of...
1:18:26🔗
Bad Religion
I am not a cultural relativist at all. I believe there's a single truth to the way things happened and a single truth to the way things are. And it's science's job to try and figure out the truth.
1:18:46🔗
Adam
Oh, I was just yelling about that last night. I think some things are wrong and some things are right. And the Taliban beating women is wrong regardless of your culture and doing things to incest is wrong. And no matter what part of the world you're from.
1:19:01🔗
Bad Religion
And we can go even a step farther and say that some cultures might think that the moon is made out of cheese. And it's not. And it's like cultural relativists would say, that's cool, man. That's their way of seeing it. Well, the moon ain't made out of cheese. And that culture is wrong.
1:19:20🔗
Drew
Yeah, that's it. They can go ahead and believe it. They're free to believe it. But they're wrong.
1:19:26🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah, so I was wondering, so what are you trying to get at with the song Leave Mine to Me?
1:19:33🔗
Bad Religion
Exactly what you're doing right now means don't do it, leave mine to me. Right? You're asking him a question about a song where he's saying, don't worry about what I do, you worry about what you do.
1:19:44🔗
Bad Religion
Well, but also here's an important distinction that you have to remember. In music and art, there's only one real truth and it's not that important. The only one truth is what came from the mind of the creator of the piece of music or art. And that truth isn't that relevant when it comes to a fan or a listener's interpretation of it. So leave mine to me just means leave my interpretation to me. Okay.
1:20:21🔗
Yeah.
1:20:23🔗
Caller
Yeah, man. There's a girl right there in the summer. Right. Yeah. And we were we would make out or whatever.
1:21:00🔗
Caller
OK. So now it's like during the school year and I called her because she gave me her number or whatever. And she didn't stay on the phone long. She was just like, it could be better if she called me. And now she hasn't called me. It's been like a month. I don't know what to do.
1:21:51🔗
Bad Religion
If you can make a good decision like that, then you can take Drew and Adam's advice, I think, and move on.
1:22:04🔗
Bad Religion
Well, why don't you wait till the end of the 9th grade, cause that's when you shift schools, isn't it? That's when you go to high school?
1:22:09🔗
Drew
Yeah, and actually there's some evidence that you should really wait till 11th grade, because before that, even relatively small amounts of pot can have been shown to possibly hurt people. In fact, your development, anyway.
1:22:20🔗
Adam
All right, so you really start... Now, can he eat brownies until then, or no more smoke? 16. And in the 10th grade for brownies?
1:22:36🔗
Caller
All right, man. Hey, also, I do a little music thing. I was wondering if I could play you guys some.
1:23:12🔗
Adam
Yeah. You know what I miss? I miss guys playing novelty items like the saw, the spoons, the jug. You remember when a guy every once in a while would pop up on some late night show and he'd have a saw that he'd be playing Melancholy Baby on? What happened to that art form?
1:23:30🔗
Bad Religion
Well, there's a reason that it's gone, Drew. I mean, Adam, there's a reason that those things didn't persist.
1:23:37🔗
Adam
You know, quite frankly, I think what happened is with the advent of power tools, a lot of people just got away from the old handsaws.
1:23:45🔗
Adam
Kids didn't have access to that. That's right. It's all Nintendo and 18-volt Makita's now.
1:23:51🔗
Bad Religion
Plus, all the saws are really short, those toolbox saws, and they're not good for music.
1:24:12🔗
Hello.
1:24:13🔗
I was at the Epitaph store.
1:24:53🔗
Bad Religion
I'd like to hear both Brett and Greg's different opinions and experiences about Bad Religion's move from Epitaph to the major and back to Epitaph again, and just about political punk bands in general being on major labels. I know Brett wasn't in the band during the major label years. Punk scene gave you guys a lot of flacks for the move. So I was just curious about your different.
1:25:09🔗
Bad Religion
Well, actually Brett was with us when we recorded our first major label record called Stranger Than Fiction. That was one of our most successful ones. Right.
1:25:24🔗
Bad Religion
Okay. This is Greg speaking. Okay. I'm going to tell you something about Brett. Yeah.
1:25:32🔗
Bad Religion
I actually have an interesting story because it's so boring, because most people want to hear when you go to a major label that there was this big mean guy standing over you, forcing you to write hit songs. But actually, there was very little of that at all, and there was no creative interference at all. But the worst thing about it was that Brett was not with me.
1:25:55🔗
Bad Religion
So this is Brett speaking, and as you may know, I own Epitaph, and you're not going to hear any major label bashing from me. I think the whole issue is overblown.
1:26:04🔗
Adam
Well, it seems to me that they're not evil just because they're big. They're evil if they try to water down your product or influence you in a negative way. But if that is not going on as much as people would like to believe it is...
1:26:15🔗
Bad Religion
You know, Britney Spears is on an independent label. I mean, not too many people know that, but Zamba is the biggest independent in the world. And Radiohead Kid A came out on a major label, and it was one of the most creative and innovative records of last year or so.
1:26:33🔗
Drew
Yeah, but it's a typical way we think, Adam. What would be in it for them to squash some of this creativity?
1:26:59🔗
Adam
All right, Matthew. All right, thanks a lot. Thank you. Big is not always bad. Let's talk to Bobby, who's 19. Bobby?
1:27:08🔗
Hi.
1:27:09🔗
I actually had two questions for you.
1:27:12🔗
One was, how does pop affect your sperm count?
1:27:17🔗
Drew
It can drop it. It can drop it. It lowers your testosterone level, raises the estrogen level. It can drop.
1:27:32🔗
Also, my other question was-
1:27:48🔗
Adam
I've said many a time, they ought to combine those two things. First off, it's the same audience. You know what I mean? Same consumer. They're pretty much- Interesting. Same guys who are spending money at the head shop for the bong, or spending for the penises.
1:28:10🔗
Adam
All you need is one of those blood pressure pumps in a little carb adapter, just a little air fitting that you could snap on like they have for compressed air fittings and pump, pump, pump.
1:28:26🔗
Bad Religion
I think we could sell them on the home shopping network. I'm pretty sure we could.
1:28:29🔗
It's a big item.
1:28:34🔗
Adam
When your mom said, is this a bong? You didn't get indignant and go, how dare you? This is a penis pump.
1:28:45🔗
Okay, the other question is, I watch a lot of porno and I was wondering, because I may masturbate three or four times a day, how does that also affect my sperm count?
1:28:58🔗
Drew
Yeah, it could be lowering it a little bit. Why are you worried about your sperm count?
1:29:01🔗
No, I'm just-
1:29:07🔗
Because, I don't know, I just don't want it to go bad after a while.
1:29:12🔗
Bad Religion
It won't go bad. Even when you're an old man, you'll still have a sperm count.
1:29:17🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah, it doesn't run out. It doesn't go stale and it doesn't go sour. It just keeps going.
1:29:22🔗
Bad Religion
Besides which, we've just recently cloned the first human, so men are obsolete, aren't they?
1:29:27🔗
Adam
Society is not lucky enough for your sperm to go bad, Bobby. You will impregnate many a woman on numerous occasions.
1:29:34🔗
That's actually my plan.
1:29:41🔗
A lot of nice guys, probably.
1:29:45🔗
I also had to say one more thing before I hang up.
1:29:48🔗
How come you guys don't play System of a Down anymore?
1:29:53🔗
No, you guys don't play it all the time when it starts. When the actual show starts.
1:30:04🔗
I would appreciate if you can play it at the end when you guys- There you go.
1:30:09🔗
Adam
Will that adversely affect his sperm? Yes. Okay. Let's take ourselves a little break. Bad Religion is here. One of the only bands that's actually good for your sperm. We'll take a break.
1:30:58🔗
Hey, I'm Clive Barker, and you're listening to Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew on Love Live.
1:31:04🔗
Adam
Adam Corolla, English never get tired of putting R where the A needs to be and never get tired of taking the R and putting the A there.
1:31:12🔗
Drew
Remember he was supposed to send me those books on book writing or something, some pamphlets?
1:31:30🔗
Adam
All right. Bad Religion is here tonight, and the new CD is out on January 22nd. We will pop back to the phones and speak to Jessica, who's 18. Jessica, turn that radio down, Jessica.
1:31:57🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah. All right. All right. You know what? We're talking about a penis bong right here, right now.
1:32:07🔗
Caller
Okay. Every time I have sex with my boyfriend, I have to watch the man show in order to get an orgy.
1:33:13🔗
Adam
No, I did. I've told this theory about black guys not liking to go down. I had a guy on a football team told me he would not eat anything that got up and walked away when he was done. And I took that to heart.
1:33:30🔗
Drew
Jamaicans have a lot of stuff they have thinking about homosexuality too. You were talking to them about that.
1:33:41🔗
Adam
And, you know, Sunday nights, 10 o'clock Comedy Central, that's where you'll find your orgasm.
1:34:04🔗
Adam
All right. Good times. Good times. Yeah. This acoustic Christmas is coming up. And once in a while, you do make the mistake of getting stoned at that thing. And then I run into General Manager Tripp Reeb and start getting weird. You know, it's not, it's not good. Best to wait, wait until the evening wears on when everyone gets loaded and they're not, they don't rush to judgment as quickly.
1:34:56🔗
Caller
I wanted to know if you have sex, if I have sex with two different people and one's bigger than the other one, is my vagina going to stretch?
1:35:04🔗
Drew
Let me see if what you're asking is, if you have sex, would one guy be able to tell if you're having sex with another guy?
1:35:38🔗
Adam
They're not aware of each other. What about your mouth? Same question, but about your mouth for oral sex. Does that come back, Drew?
1:35:50🔗
Bad Religion
Can I wager a guess? Is this because the smaller of the two is actually your boyfriend? Yes. A good time. So the big guy is- He's the big guy. You're doing it on the sly and you don't want your boyfriend to know.
1:36:20🔗
Bad Religion
Oh, okay. He's not giving you what you need and it doesn't have anything to do with the smaller penis.
1:36:25🔗
Drew
We tell a lot of people your age that these relationships drag on forever because you don't know when and how to end them. When you're 28, you would end a relationship like this in three weeks.
1:37:00🔗
Bad Religion
Wait, if he was okay in every other department, then the penis size probably wouldn't matter, right?
1:37:15🔗
Adam
This is not fair. You know, this is like, it's like if you worked at a job for five years and they hired a new guy and your boss called you in and said, you're fired, this new guy.
1:37:29🔗
Adam
He's got a big dick. No, of course, a new broom sweeps clean. I mean... For a while. For a while. Yeah. Because you're enthusiastic at the beginning. And you're a great guy.
1:37:40🔗
Bad Religion
No, you can't do that. You've got to either break it off. You can't lie to a guy and cheat on him.
1:38:02🔗
Bad Religion
Anything that makes you go around telling lies all the time isn't going to make you feel good about yourself either.
1:38:10🔗
Yes.
1:38:12🔗
Caller
This call is primarily for Bad Religion. You guys are my favorite band in the whole world. I had gotten to you guys when I was a freshman, and ever since then I've just been inspired to take a look at the world around me and not take face of value. Now thanks to you guys, my eyes are wide open, so thanks a lot.
1:38:29🔗
Caller
And Greg and Brad, I think you guys are pretty much two of the best songwriters there ever were.
1:38:38🔗
Caller
It takes a lot to work your ass off and have a great company like you got. And I was wondering, I'm gonna see you guys on Saturday night, and I was wondering, could you guys play the Fertile Crescent?
1:38:52🔗
Bad Religion
And well, we're gonna be playing a couple of these newer songs and they're taking a lot of our effort to get the arrangements down.
1:39:28🔗
Adam
Thanks, Robert. I will say that Bad Religion definitely has some of the smartest, most appreciative fans we've heard on this show. I mean, you know, we do talk to a lot of people who call in, and they don't seem to articulate themselves quite as well as Bad Religion fans.
1:39:48🔗
Adam
If nerdy means smart, dedicated, and into Jesus Christ, then nerdy, nerdy, and into Jesus Christ.
1:40:10🔗
Bad Religion
I'm so overwhelmed. I tried to tell you screen there how messed up I am right now. I got a million questions, but I am reading a book right now called Forenal Advisory by Eric Neusbaum, and he mentions Bad Religion twice, but he's not very specific. My question is, has the band ever been a subject of any kind of censorship, whether it be on an album or on a concert bill?
1:40:31🔗
Bad Religion
You know, that question comes up a lot, and we've enjoyed very little of that in our entire history. But it's interesting you point out that book because I'd like to see what the man has to say about us, especially one titled Parental Advisory.
1:40:48🔗
Bad Religion
Yeah, well also on Joe, he offers the last spoken word album, he mentions you guys too. He says something to the effect of each or a hard-out bad religion, and I couldn't make any sense of it.
1:41:02🔗
Bad Religion
Oh no, I didn't think that. Also, Greg, when are you going to do another American Legion album?
1:41:08🔗
Bad Religion
Nothing in the works this year because we're busy with the Bad Religion project. This will take us all through next year.
1:41:14🔗
Adam
Hey, Jeff, we're out of time, but why don't you give us the name of that book? We need it one more time so the guys can go get it and then sue somebody.
1:41:23🔗
Bad Religion
Parental Advisory, Music Centrorship in America. It was published last year by a guy named Eric Nuzum.
1:41:38🔗
Adam
Well, take a break. We'll be back with Bad Religion to wrap up after this. All right, everybody. She's Adam.
1:42:40🔗
Drew
I was walking back and forth in the studio in the hall here. Out in the hall, they were arguing creationism versus evolution. In here, you guys talk about building garages. It's nice.
1:43:19🔗
Adam
Again, The Process of Belief is the name of the CD, Out to 22nd, although people are seeming to find them before that date. So until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo.
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Caller
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