1:02🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:13🔗AdamHey, everybody. It's Loveline. I'm Adam. Where's my goddamn coffee? Corolla. And that's my good partner over there. Doctor, where's my goddamn coffee? Drew. He's a board-certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. Phone number 1-800-LLVE-191. Stephen Jenkins is here tonight from Third Eye Blind. Always good to see Stephen.
1:36🔗Third Eye BlindWith my coffee addict friends.
1:38🔗AdamYeah. Well, we need it. It's what keeps us going here. Third Eye Blind is going to be performing this Saturday. At the Will-Turn Theatre along with a whole bunch of other really good bands for a really good cause. And Stephen's here tonight talking about that.
1:54🔗AdamWell, why don't we get into that? Are there stick-ets? Are there tickets still available?
1:59🔗Third Eye BlindNo, there's plenty of stick-ets.
2:01🔗AdamWell, that's me taking the word still in tickets and just streamlining.
2:05🔗Third Eye BlindWell, they say it's sold out, but it doesn't mean that something may not be available at the door. You know, if you want to get in, you can get in.
2:14🔗AdamYeah, it would seem like most of the acts on this bill could just fill this place on their own. Third Eye Blind, the crazy town Sugar Ray, Nick Acosta, almost the Third Eye Blind again, run DMC. I mean, it's a pretty good line up.
2:29🔗Third Eye BlindLet's not leave out the Deftones. Those guys have been in this from the beginning. They're just beautiful people. I gotta send a big shout out to them.
2:35🔗AdamOh, yeah. The Deftones was, Steph was just on here just a couple of weeks ago.
2:42🔗AdamOh, good. So they'll be there too. Well, I'll add that to my list. And again, that's at the Wiltern Theater, which is, it's really an ingenious name. It's on the corner of Wilshire and Western. You get it? Talk about the creative genius. Thank you, Sarah. Okay. We got our coffee now.
3:00🔗AdamThird Eye Blind's gonna be, you're working on an album now?
3:03🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, we're writing an album right now. And I've just been doing my spare time with the Breathe Benefit, putting this thing together.
3:12🔗AdamThis is to benefit breast cancer. And have you been touring around with this? Or is this the first one?
3:18🔗Third Eye BlindNo, this is really the inaugural of what should be a yearly event, hopefully. And it started off when, after my mother contracted breast cancer a couple years ago, I started thinking about how we could sort of widen the scope of who pays attention to this disease, because it's always seen as sort of a women's issue. And breast cancer, what I realized is, it's not a women's issue, it's a family issue, it's a son's issue, it's my issue. Something that was attacking my family. So if you can widen the scope of awareness and who pays attention to it, then you widen the scope of fundraising. And this is a disease that's going to get solved with money.
3:57🔗Third Eye BlindShe's in recovery. And one of the reasons why is because she had access to health care. And there's a lot of women in this country who don't. And so some of the proceeds for this show are going to go to agencies that provide treatment for underprivileged women.
4:13🔗AdamDrew, how much better is it? I don't mean this better, but to have breast cancer in 2001 as opposed to 1955.
4:26🔗DrewBetter, but over 50 is dramatically better. I mean, most young women that get breast cancer can expect to live a long time.
4:32🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, and they can also expect to go through totally draconian medical practices. I mean, you still get cut, and you still have to go through radiation and chemotherapy and all these kinds of things are, although hopefully they save your life, they're quite debilitating. So it's real and it's here, and we're in a time right now where this isn't something that we're paying attention to. Obviously, the nation's attention is focused on other things, but we decided to keep going with this show when a lot of people have canceled shows because it's still here, it's still going on.
5:09🔗AdamWell, I think that the nation's attention is focused in a philanthropic way. I mean, with an eye on the Middle East, obviously, and New York, but I think people, it's a good time in the sense that people are just generally into causes and giving and giving back.
5:30🔗Third Eye BlindNo. What's really going on? No. Animal shelters are closing because they're not getting funding. We were actually going to do this show at the Greek Theater, and that's a place we sold out in two hours the last time we played there. Because it's a benefit, the focus is really elsewhere. The fundraising that we expected to do has been greatly curtailed because of the World Trade Center events. Oh, really?
6:21🔗Third Eye BlindThere's less fakes running around out there.
6:23🔗AdamNewspapers are free. Old man's sleeping right on the corner. I'll just pull it right out from under his ass.
6:28🔗Third Eye BlindI'm actually loving LA right now.
6:30🔗AdamI like it a little comatose. It's when it's a wide awake and celebrating Cinco de Mayo when we're in trouble. All right, so this is coming up this Saturday. It's going to be at the Will-Turn, which is a great art deco historical theater, and we don't have too many of those in LA. This is about as nice as it gets out here, and a bunch of really good bands and a really good cause.
6:53🔗DrewAre you encouraging people to go to the box office tomorrow, at show time?
7:07🔗Third Eye BlindYeah. I mean, this is how we're doing the show. Liz Fair is somebody who I've been a huge fan of for a long time, and she's going to play, and she's just going to jam with Third Eye Blind.
7:17🔗Third Eye BlindAnd then Little Kim is coming out from New York, and she's going to do a song with us, and I don't know what's going to happen, but something.
7:23🔗DrewI am really afraid we're going to have a riot at the box office.
7:26🔗AdamNo, it's not that crowd. It's a breast cancer crowd, Drew.
7:29🔗Third Eye BlindAll you have to do is control yourself, Drew, and then there won't be a riot.
7:34🔗AdamAnd, jeez, I want to talk a little about acting, too. Well, we'll take a call. Remind me, I saw Rockstar. I thought you were really good in it.
8:07🔗CallerAnd we started dating for a couple months, and he was really nice. And I guess we took the step forward and we had sex. And the thing about it was he was extremely big, like the circumference of maybe my breast, okay? And it hurt. And so we couldn't wear a condom.
8:27🔗AdamRight. Yeah. Well, you couldn't wear a condom because it wouldn't fit or because the friction was too gray?
8:43🔗DrewBut it hurt her, see? This is another one of those-
8:45🔗AdamAnother compliment. I'm sorry, but still a compliment. Go ahead.
8:51🔗CallerI've been dating this other guy on and off for about a year, and I didn't want to tell him that I slept with this guy because he'd be extremely mad at me.
9:25🔗CallerYeah. And so that kind of freaked me out, and I decided to get up enough brass balls to actually tell this guy that I slept with the other one. And he freaked out and he got tested, but I'm afraid to get tested myself.
9:41🔗Third Eye BlindOh, go ahead. Go ahead and get tested.
9:46🔗CallerThe thing is, yeah, I know, but I'm just kind of afraid, I guess.
9:51🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, but listen to you. You're all freaked out right now, and you know what? You really probably don't have it, and when you find out that you don't, you're going to cry tears of joy.
9:59🔗AdamYeah, and how can you go through a life freaked out thinking you have something anyway?
10:03🔗DrewThis is now a disease that can be rendered into a chronic condition. It doesn't have to kill you. I have tons of patients that live 10 years with that virus on proper therapies. It is easily suppressible. You suppress the viral reproduction. You suppress the demamish immune system. The earlier that starts, the better the outcomes. It's just a clear cut situation. When I was in training, somebody came in with that disease. We gave them six months. That was it.
10:27🔗AdamAnd if they didn't die after six months, you'd kill them just so you'd be right?
10:31🔗DrewThe first episode of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia was a six month death sentence. Absolutely.
10:35🔗AdamThat turned into grids and then it turned into AIDS?
10:38🔗DrewThat was all AIDS at that point. Now people know nothing for 10, 15 years.
10:44🔗Third Eye BlindIt's fine. But you know what the thing is, is that you're dying inside right now, worrying about it. So go get tested and be sure and then you'll be glad.
10:50🔗AdamSpeaking of dying inside, imagine the boyfriend is like, okay, I slept with this guy, but here's the bad news. His dong was so huge that three condoms weren't enough for it.
11:04🔗Third Eye BlindSo yeah, I get that all the time.
11:05🔗AdamSo we had it unprotected. Second to a guy, I mean, what is the second worst news beside the girl sleeping with a guy? I think it's the guy having a huge penis. When in that like a close second?
11:24🔗Third Eye BlindUses needles, built like a coke can, it's a bummer.
11:29🔗AdamThat's right. The one is the coffin and then the other two would be the two nails on top of the lid. All right. Let's talk to Jason, who's 28. Jason?
11:47🔗CallerVariety, yeah. But we was wondering about some of the things that we might be able to do to equal them out, and she had seen an advertisement for one of those pills that enlarge your breast. Right. Would that do anything?
12:03🔗Third Eye BlindYou have to only take half a pill.
12:04🔗AdamYeah, take the right half if the right boob is smaller than the left half.
12:09🔗DrewObviously, even if those pills did something, they would equally affect both breasts, but they don't do anything.
12:19🔗AdamSatan worship, infidelity, stuff like that.
12:21🔗DrewI don't know about most, but a significant percentage have either size differential or sort of directionality differences or shape differences.
12:44🔗Third Eye BlindI recommend that you name them each. You give them each different names. I mean, the big one, Junior, and the little one, Lill, whatever. Right. Bouncy, bouncy.
12:55🔗AdamI say, I'm with Stephen, but I'll take it a step further. Pick up a Bonanza theme. Little John and Hoss. Take the two, the big one and the little one. Then whoever that middle brother was, no one seemed to know was actually older than the dad.
13:10🔗Third Eye BlindTell her how much you dig it. Anyway, that makes everything better.
13:13🔗AdamYeah. Just pay extra attention to the big one. That's fine. It's like dating two women. Nicole?
13:23🔗CallerThe reason I was calling was about a month ago, I just happened to be down at the beach by where I live. And I met this guy who was down there working. And so he was only going to be here for two weeks for his job. And so while he was here, like we hung out and we talked every day and all that kind of stuff. And I'd go down and hang out and bring my friends. And then like towards the end of the two weeks, I knew he was going to have to leave. And he's like, well, I don't live that far. Come visit me. Call me.
13:53🔗CallerWell, then he came home and he's been home for two weeks. And I haven't seen him because he's been really sick. And so he left yesterday to go for another like thing with work for three weeks. And so I'm basically kind of wondering, like, he, when he was here, he would call me and stuff. But now it's more like.
14:16🔗AdamHold on a second, Gabby. Where's his home when you say he goes home?
14:19🔗CallerOh, he lives in Ontario. He was like 40 minutes from me.
14:24🔗AdamYou're right. And you guys couldn't keep a relationship going with that 40 minutes apart?
14:29🔗CallerWhat I'm kind of wondering is, with his job, everyone I talk to, they're like, he probably meets so many other girls and you would always be wondering if he's being like.
14:44🔗DrewCheaters cheat whether they have a lot of opportunity or not. Do you know what I'm saying? If this guy's a cheater, he's going to cheat if he works in a monastery.
14:50🔗Third Eye BlindAnd if he wants to see you, he would skateboard to your house.
14:53🔗CallerThe thing I'm kind of wondering is, I've only known him for a month, so I don't want to be too pushy. But how can I bring it up to be like, you know, I kind of want to know, is this going to lead anywhere? And if it is, am I always going to have to worry every time you leave? But I don't want to bring it up to where.
15:06🔗Third Eye BlindI have the perfect advice for you. Here's what you do. Start blowing him off. So life is a two step. You can only do two things. You can either be pursuing somebody or you can be pursued. So if you're tired of pursuing him, stop pursuing him and then he will either pursue you or you will know the truth that he's no damn good.
15:23🔗AdamWell, I agree. Blow job. I mean blow off.
15:29🔗AdamWait a minute. What does he do for a living that he meets all sorts of chicks?
15:33🔗CallerHe skates, but he also works for a company that coordinates all the events. So like in the summer months, it's skating and then now it's turning to snowboarding and I'm like, I'm so worried because after Thanksgiving, he has to go on this trip like they're going to do something with it. It's like a college trip. It has to be nothing but a bunch of college girls. I'm like, no.
15:55🔗AdamYeah. All right. Well, especially since you don't really have a relationship.
16:23🔗AdamStop. No, it's three guys. See, women think guys don't think like they do and guys think women don't think like they do, which is we know if we're interested, we're on it.
16:45🔗AdamAt age 25, it's not like you've got to borrow your older brother's moped or something. The guy's got wheels. And it's like they're so freaked out about the message you're sending, it has nothing to do with that. If guys are interested, you will know it. Unfortunately, the answer is probably no with this one.
17:04🔗Third Eye BlindI think their weekend, tatatat, is complete.
17:07🔗AdamYeah. Probably is. And you know how these skateboarders are. Christine?
17:41🔗CallerMy mom, she's kind of personal and she keeps her personal life to herself. And I think that she may have breast cancer because she brings it up every once in a while and then she'll shut down and she won't say anything.
18:00🔗CallerShe'll say like, well, you know, I'm having a hard time in my life and you know, I've got these things in my breast and blah, blah, blah. And then she won't. She'll stop.
18:08🔗DrewWell, that's not breast cancer. And then these things in my breast is.
18:11🔗CallerWell, she'll say that they're milk deposits. And then my dad will say, you know, I was talking to your mom and she thinks she might have breast cancer. But my mom won't talk to me about it.
18:19🔗DrewBut she's obsessing about it. But that's not what she has. That's not what she has. That's fibrocystic breast.
18:24🔗CallerWait, wait. And I have a small lump in my left breast. And right.
19:02🔗DrewHow about them doing a needle biopsy? They talk about that.
19:05🔗CallerShe said that it was too hard. It wasn't like where they could take a fluid out of it or something. Right.
19:13🔗DrewWhy don't you get another opinion about that too? Because at an 18, a lumpectomy is pretty aggressive. So just get another opinion about that. These are things that can just follow with ultrasounds and watch. Unless you had profound family history of breast cancer in all the females, it was very unlikely that would do what this is.
19:29🔗AdamWhy don't you talk to your dad about what's up with your mom and her boobs? Not in a sexual way, though, of course not.
19:35🔗DrewIf it runs in families, it's fibrocystic breast.
19:37🔗AdamI know, but she thinks that her mom has breast cancer, and I bet her dad would put her at ease.
19:43🔗CallerWell, no, my mom shuts down. She doesn't tell him anything. They have a really bad relationship. It's my stepdad, actually.
19:49🔗AdamBut isn't your mom the kind of person who, if she did actually have this, would like to flaunt it?
20:08🔗AdamYeah, but if she would use it, she'd use it. I mean, if she had it, she'd use it.
20:12🔗Third Eye BlindThis sounds like that she's kind of lording this over you. If she had breast cancer, she would, it sounds like she'd really lord it over you.
20:25🔗DrewI'm scared of her. Listen, Christina, Christine, Christine, if people used things that they used to manipulate and harm people all the time, you'd get used to it and it wouldn't bother you anymore. They only use it when they know it will work, when it can manipulate you, when it can hurt you.
21:22🔗AdamNo, check your mom's right and your left and then your mom's left and your right, like you're tightening lug nuts on a rim. You have to move around so you don't pull the wheel out of center.
21:32🔗AdamThat's right. Where's that high hat? Anderson, what's going on in there? I haven't heard any sound effects out of you. You're talking to the ladies? I'll tell you the ladies love, no, they don't. I was going to say they like the Anderson, but no.
22:54🔗Third Eye BlindWell, it's probably stuff that's on the new album. I think that's always the way it goes. But I think that right now, I'm writing the best stuff I've written so far. For things that I've recorded so far, probably a B-side called Tattoo of the Sun. And a song on the last album, Blue, which is called Wounded. I actually played that the last time I was on the show.
23:21🔗AdamWe're going to take ourselves a little commercial here. Stephen Jenkins is here from Third Eye Blind and got himself a benefit coming up this Saturday at the Will Turn. Tons of good guests. We'll tell you all about that after this. We'll be right there.
24:09🔗And Ian Asprey from The Cult, and you're listening to Love Line with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
24:14🔗AdamYes, you is. I like those cult guys. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, Alien and Farm in here next week, and who's that whose name I can't read up there, Drew?
25:31🔗Third Eye BlindHe's in town. Hey, Mick. Yeah.
25:35🔗AdamYeah. Because I wonder, I mean, it would kind of make sense that if, well, you recorded Sergeant Peppers on this board or something, that it'd be worth more than another board from 1960.
25:46🔗Third Eye BlindYeah. But we built the studio and it's going to be great because I just means the clock's not ticking and you get to do totally your own thing. And so we're going to make the record that we really know we can make.
25:56🔗AdamBut I don't want to play devil's advocate here. But personally, I would need a clock ticking, otherwise I don't get anything done. Do you know what I mean? Like if I had my own space and someone said come and go as you please, I'd never come in. You know what I mean? You don't work that way.
26:13🔗Third Eye BlindNo. Recording studios tend to just wreak of despair in there and it's horrible. And this is like my own clubhouse.
26:29🔗Third Eye BlindTime just stops, doesn't it, Adam?
26:31🔗AdamYeah, you're right. You're right. That I would do.
26:33🔗DrewYou hate your work. Stephen loves his work.
26:35🔗AdamThat's true. Okay. I know I see it. And are you going to take this place and rent it out and make some money, too? Like when you're on the road and stuff?
26:43🔗Third Eye BlindIt's really just kind of our place, you know?
26:53🔗Hey, a long time listener. I think like second time caller. Great. I just first wanted to thank you and Dr. Drew because I don't think if it was for you guys, I would have gotten to therapy when I really needed it. Oh, good for you. Really into strongly, almost proud independent person.
27:12🔗I don't know, you guys convinced me. I was all down with it. Anyway, a question for Stephen. How's your new album? I love Third Eye Blind. I like sacrifice goats to you guys every night.
27:22🔗Third Eye BlindThanks. I love going to therapy. Therapy's where we've got something in common twice.
27:29🔗Anyway, I noticed that your first album was almost like the journey of a character or like a symphony, that there was a definite order and rhythm to it. And I was wondering if your new album is going to be similar.
27:44🔗Third Eye BlindHopefully. I mean, I like to make albums that you can listen to all the way through. And if not, then they're just collections of songs and that gets really boring. So I sort of like old records that are like that. And I think that's the tradition that we try and follow in, which is it's like the big rock tradition of whole albums.
28:08🔗AdamWell, is it a rhythm or is it a theme? Do you know what I mean? I mean, is it that some songs would just rhythmically go in front of other songs?
28:18🔗Third Eye BlindWell, I think what he's talking about now really, first of all, thank you so much for your praise because I try to make things that have some mood that travels and goes some place over the course of a whole album. I mean, that's what I think rock music can do. Like a dream or something, you know?
28:36🔗Yeah, it's music that I can really stick with and I've stuck with for years.
29:32🔗AdamI know. I had a brain freeze and Drew had Drew's brain. So we were left without one for that night.
29:39🔗Well, my question was, I'll be dating this girl for six months. She told me about a week ago that she still has feelings for her first love. He lives in the same town as she visited him once already. He hasn't seen me for over a week.
30:24🔗AdamI mean, usually you get that sort of, I need time to breathe, I need a little time alone, I got to find myself, it's not, is, you know, my favorite line, it's not you, it's me, I hate you.
30:52🔗Third Eye BlindHey, Carney, it's going to feel a lot better when you say, you know what, I think we should call it quits. For you to say that then to hang around and be sure.
31:00🔗AdamYeah. Well, he may not even get that opportunity. You haven't spoken to her in a week, right?
31:33🔗AdamIt's really like being viciously attacked after you hit someone with a bat. That's what her calling you after you call her is. Hey, Carney? Yeah. Let me tell you, she needs her space, right? Right. Don't believe it.
32:29🔗DrewAnd if there's any chance she's coming back, it's only going to be when you turn around and go the other way.
32:34🔗AdamBut you know the toughest thing for guys is this strategy, which is you've got one plan and one plan only. It's one in ten, but here's your one shot. Your plan? Nothing.
32:47🔗AdamIt's so hard as a guy, especially when you're so used to scheming and plotting and mapping things out and coming up with ideas and plans. And fixing things. And fixing, right. Something's broken, we got to fix it. I don't care if it's the garage door or the relationship or concrete. And to tell a 22-year-old guy with a ton of testosterone coursing through his veins that here's your plan, you do nothing. You don't pick up the phone, you don't answer the phone, you just hang back and do nothing. I could never do that. And I always remember that's what I had to do, but I had to go do something like proactive or actually pro-retarded, where I actually went forward.
33:54🔗AdamI swear to Christ, every time I announce, no more eating, I can't finish the sentence because my mouth is full. I've stuffed something into my mouth before I've actually got to the eating part of it.
34:12🔗AdamYeah. You know the stuff I don't do is the stuff I announce I need to do. Here's what I'm going to start doing.
34:17🔗Third Eye BlindWell, you shouldn't say anything about jacking off.
34:18🔗AdamReading and learning to type. When I make those announcements, five years goes by, I do nothing. But the stuff I announce I'll never do happens while I'm announcing it. Drew, seriously, Stephen, you've done this before you go, I'm not beating off. I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed. I'm not beating off.
34:55🔗AdamEvery night before I go to bed, I go, no more eating, no more beating off and no more calling old girlfriends and then I do them all, and not in that order.
35:13🔗CallerWell, it's weird. I'm calling because I have a skin disorder and it's called lichen plantis, and I want to know what it's caused from and how I can treat it.
35:23🔗DrewI'm sure you've seen a dermatologist, right?
35:49🔗AdamChiffon, a handful of chiffon sort of stuff.
35:51🔗DrewNot too big a deal. There's some mouthwashes and some creams you can use to control it. It has no known causes. Your immune system basically attacking your body for reasons that are not known.
36:00🔗CallerThey told me... The first dermatologist I saw said it was caused by anxiety. And he kind of just told me to calm down and that it affects mostly type A personality people. So I don't... And then I went to another one to get a second opinion. And he...
36:16🔗Third Eye BlindI asked how I could treat this stuff in my mouth.
36:18🔗CallerHe said he didn't know and gave me another hydrocortisone.
36:21🔗DrewThere are some newer washes that... But there were sort of hydrocortisone washes. And it's better if you do nothing, frankly. The anxiety thing, that must be something new. I'm not... I see you'll treat a lot of people with anxiety like in colonis and that's something I see regularly.
36:33🔗Third Eye BlindWhat about like a nice bath in Clorox?
36:54🔗AdamAlso, oh, we are glad to have him. It really makes things easier. It's like taking the show and just breaking it off into threes, like some kind of Kit Kat bar.
37:03🔗AdamNow, you're doing your part. You're doing, you see, usually, here's how the show works. I do the guest part and Drew's part. And Drew does no part. No part. That's right. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Drew over there. Stephen Jenkins is here from Third Eye Blind. He's gonna be at the will turn with a bunch of his talented musical friends, like the Deftones. And who the hell else is gonna be there?
38:03🔗Third Eye BlindSeal's gonna play for the first time in three years. Yeah, has just making a new album. It's really incredible.
38:08🔗DrewAre you getting like the MTV's and stuff to cover this?
38:11🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, yeah, they are. It's kind of amazing because this thing started off as just, just a, we were just gonna do a small charity show and then, and then so many people have had experiences in the music community similar to my own, having a mother with breast cancer, that people all over the place got involved in it and people who you wouldn't associate with breast cancer like Third Eye Blind, you know, it's Guy Rock and hard bands like the Deaf Tones have been totally involved in it.
38:42🔗DrewWhat is it, a third of women can expect to get breast cancer? It's a very common condition.
38:46🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, it's massive. It slaughters American women and the thing is, is that as it does this, as I've said so many times, it's not a woman's issue. It's everyone's issue because it's your family that's getting it.
38:56🔗DrewMy sense, although I know you said the dollars are flowing away from things like this, I believe that because of what's been happening in the world, people want to do something. And I think the reason your friends are flocking to really help is they want to do something. And this is something good that they can do and feel like they're contributing. So to that extent, I think that's where the spirit of the time is helping you.
39:15🔗AdamWell, that's going on Saturday. The will turn out here in Los Angeles. Tickets probably sold out. But then again, if you show up and you go to the box office and you have enough gumption, you can probably wiggle your way in. Stacey? Yes? I don't know what that gene is. We all know the guy who can get in. What is that?
40:18🔗CallerSo this is the thing. It's really weird. I've noticed some physical and mental changes ever since I turned like 29 in August. You know, and I'm just wondering, Dr. Drew, do you think it's like normal for me to suddenly want to have sex all the time and like just like some things that I used to not be able to do all of a sudden since I turned 29, I can do like I couldn't like deep throat and stuff and like all of a sudden like I can do it now.
40:45🔗AdamI have that came from, I was 27 when that came around, but I guess it's in that range.
40:51🔗DrewHow about other than sexual, the other things in your life that you're suddenly having a lot of stamina for? Are you not sleeping so much? You're sleeping less?
41:00🔗CallerWell, I guess I would say that I'm not sleeping as much since I've been watching so much porn lately, in the evening and stuff like that. I went out and got a movie card and I've been watching a lot more porn.
41:11🔗DrewHow many hours a night are you sleeping? How many hours a night are you sleeping?
41:41🔗CallerThen as I got older, it went away or something. Now, all of a sudden, it's opened up again. I'm orgasming so much more and having multiple orgasms.
41:50🔗AdamYou know what happened with me is I could do it when I was 16, and then it went away until I was 27, but it turned out to be part of a Diablo sandwich. It was wedged in my windpipe that was blocking the penis. It wasn't the actual ability. There was actually a sandwich in there.
42:05🔗AdamYeah, of course. Just hours and hours and weekends.
42:10🔗CallerI didn't know you were like that. Yeah, it's true.
42:13🔗AdamAnd so, well, I love everyone. And when you were, did you learn this when you're blowing out the candles on the cake? Or what? How did you discover this? You have a boyfriend?
42:23🔗CallerWell, I broke up with my boyfriend, my ex-boyfriend in June right before, you know, and I guess it kind of started like right after I broke up with him. I was in a, you know, I was at a health institute in San Diego and I went to Tijuana and I met a guy and then I...
42:39🔗Third Eye BlindWait, wait, wait. What was the health institute? What were you doing there?
42:42🔗CallerOh, it was just like, you know, where you eat green vegetables.
42:50🔗DrewAre you, have you had your thyroid check, things like that also, just to make sure that you're not sort of spun because of that?
42:57🔗CallerYeah, you know, actually I did have some blood work done.
43:01🔗AdamHey, Stacey, Stacey, let me make this observation. You're one of these people that's just way too caught up in your own ass, right? I mean, you got a thot?
43:10🔗Third Eye BlindWell, actually, it's their own throat.
43:12🔗DrewWell, let's see if she's sexually abused, too.
43:27🔗CallerAny enemas? You know, I have noticed that all of a sudden, anal sex doesn't hurt anymore either. Like, I actually enjoyed it. It was really strange. My friend's like a porn star and stuff, or she's an ex-porn star, you know, like my really close friend, one of my best friends, as a matter of fact. And I just never quite got into the whole scene. I mean, I really expected and admired what she could do.
43:47🔗DrewSlow down, slow down. Why would I think she's mad? Stacey, any drugs or alcohol?
43:52🔗CallerNo, I have, well, I have an occasional drink and stuff.
43:55🔗DrewBut nothing to do with speed or anything?
44:12🔗Third Eye BlindI've been fortunate to live a healthy life and I've never, never had a girl who was really skilled or down with deep throating my whole life.
44:20🔗Third Eye BlindI don't really know what this is about.
44:21🔗AdamYeah. And now the anal, the whole anal avenue has opened up to everyone. Hey, Stace. All right. Here's my suggestion because we're out of time. You got, you put a lot of energy into your, what goes into your body and whether it be a penis or green vegetables. All right. Focus on your head a little bit. Yes. And none of this mystic orient BS. You need to maybe do a little therapy, slow down a little, read some books, go for some walks, talk to a therapist. You know what I'm saying? Don't get so focused on the anal and the deep throating. And when you want to fix yourself. See, here's the thing. I think a lot of people try to fix themselves by going to camp for three days.
45:07🔗AdamI drank a bunch of green tea. I got a few coffee enemas. I'm a new man. That is not only does it not work, but it's detrimental to the sense that it gets you off the trail. It's like, you're right. Well, I'm done. Yeah. And it's not about that. It's an emotional thing.
46:07🔗DrewGo get one of those over-the-counter ovulation kits. You can tell when she's ovulated and try to hit it within 24 hours of that, and you'll be good. If you're right at this stage, you're just getting started. Just take it easy.
46:55🔗AdamOh, okay. We'll take a little break. Adam, that's Drew. Stephen is here from Third Eye Blind. And we'll be back with Drew. Who are we going to talk to when we come back?
48:46🔗AdamOur good friend Stephen Jenkins is here from Third Eye Blind. And this system of a down. I was going to sing backup for the band. Well, we love system of a down, but we were behind them at a concert, and that's all we could hear, right?
49:23🔗AdamYeah. Here's just a, I'd like to make a quick request to the mothership station out here, K-Rock, the birthplace of Loveline. All the DJs live in sort of the Los Angeles area, mostly the Valley, Sherman Oaks, Pasadena, that area, Toluca Lake. Make sure that you have it as far, far away as possible, like you do, somewhere deep in Orange County like you do.
49:51🔗Third Eye BlindYou're talking about the Weenie Rose?
49:52🔗AdamNo, not the Weenie Rose, it's the calendar signing thing. It's like, where are we having it? Well, it's in the Inland Empire, like they always do it.
50:33🔗I also think that it's really cool what you're doing for the breast cancer thing and stuff.
50:36🔗Third Eye BlindThank you. You know what else? I have a friend, she's got a fever tonight, so I want to send a shout out to little Miss Bean. But thanks for your praise. Thanks a lot.
50:45🔗DrewIt's scary now. Every time somebody gets a fever, it's okay. Should we test for an anus or not?
50:51🔗Yeah, my question is, okay, I'm not lesbian or anything, and I don't think of myself as bisexual. If there's a girl and she's pretty, and she's, I guess, built, and basically what most guys look for in a girl, it's attractive to me.
52:10🔗Third Eye BlindOkay, Elaine, here's the thing. We live in this really, really messed up puritanical society, and we think that this is the norm and it's really not. Fact is that, once again, I said 50 years you're going to be in a box for the rest of eternity. So if you feel it, it's healthy and you're thinking clearly, then it's all good. So of course, you think girls are beautiful. They're round and curvy and soft, and every magazine you look at, girls are obsessed with girls. I mean, it's like every magazine that girls look at, all they do is look at themselves, and all we do is look at them and lesbians. So of course.
52:46🔗DrewBut Elaine, just one way of clarifying this though, again, you're sort of putting it in normal and abnormal terms, which is not a right way to think about this, but to one of the ways we use to determine whether when someone's having confusion about their sexual orientation is by looking at- But hang on.
53:00🔗DrewIs by looking at their history. If you were sexually abused when you were young, that can lead to a lot of confusion about your sexual orientation. Were you?
53:15🔗DrewNo. I know he doesn't re-register on the scale for you.
53:19🔗AdamHey, Elaine, we got nothing to talk about.
53:22🔗I know that's probably just on your bad list.
53:25🔗Third Eye BlindYou're a wealthy American girl. Just be proud of it. Just freak freely.
53:28🔗AdamEnough said. She doesn't masturbate. But don't you believe, I mean, if you're a lesbian, you will start fantasizing about women whether you're with them or not. Your fantasies will go down that road. And she's not doing that. She's kissed a few weeks.
53:46🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, but I think you guys are right in the beginning that girls, their sexuality is just much more mercurial.
53:58🔗DrewMen are one way or the other. And the really fascinating thing is that a heterosexual male cannot conceive of gay sex. It's like hard for a heterosexual male to go there.
54:08🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, but Adam likes a good rounded boxing.
54:11🔗DrewYeah. That's his version of a gay male sex.
54:15🔗AdamHere's what women do and what guys would never do. And here's what we always joke about on this show, which is a lot of women go, look, I'm totally straight. I have a boyfriend. I'm heterosexual. But there's a girlfriend of mine, Kim, who's totally hot. And if and I would do it with her and and you hear that a lot. But there's no male in the world who says like, I'm a totally straight guy. I love chicks. But Stu, Stu, Stu's hot. Stu I would blow. But nobody else just Stu because, you know, we both first off, we're both Raiders fans. So we got that. You know, there's no such thing as that dude who's got a Camaro.
55:03🔗AdamHe's a thick crust guy. I'm a thick crust guy. He likes the cheese stuffed into not only the crust, but filled the pepperoni where they inject cheese into the pepperoni.
55:14🔗Third Eye BlindActually, most girls who aren't by make me a little nervous, make me think they're probably a little uptight.
55:22🔗AdamMost women, if you stop them, would name a woman they would do it with, whether she's on TV or whether they work with her, or whether it's just somebody, a friend of theirs. Most women have that one woman that they would probably get it on with.
55:35🔗Third Eye BlindWell, everybody would do Britney.
56:18🔗Third Eye BlindWhy do you think she's in jail?
56:19🔗Well, she wrote me a letter after from jail. The time I haven't seen her and I tried to get away from her and everything because I went through recovery and I had been cleaning two and a half months because I didn't want to be around that situation anymore.
57:03🔗DrewNo, she's on a trip in Europe. I'm sure of it.
57:07🔗AdamGo ahead and just bring that up at the top about the letter that she sent from prison.
57:11🔗I don't know. I'm just kind of worried about her because I don't and I'm worried about myself because I don't want to get back into the situation because I've tried to help her so much.
57:21🔗She doesn't know. Her trial, I guess, is like on the 26th.
57:24🔗DrewKim, here's what you got to do. Here's what you got to do because your life depends on your recovery. You send her a letter of support, tell her what you think works, like sit down and shut up and go to meetings. Yeah, and that right now you got to focus on your recovery. Here's, here's, give her some instruction. Go to meetings, get a sponsor, shut up, sit down and it works and I'll see you in six months.
57:47🔗DrewThat's it, that's it. And just, just that's it. Now you stay focused on your recovery, okay?
57:51🔗CallerOkay, thank you. Oh, and I have to say something. You guys are awesome. Oh, thanks. Stephen, I'm so in love with you. I have like, my whole room is covered with Third Eye Blind stuff. So-
58:01🔗Third Eye BlindAre any of them on the ceiling?
58:14🔗AdamHey, Kim? Yeah. Let me say this and I'll add to that. You got a lot of energy and you lean toward chaos and you go round and round and round.
58:27🔗AdamYeah. Short and sweet. Write her a letter, like what Drew said, and then you move on. That's it. Don't get caught up into this back and forth, sort of retarded badminton game you play with her.
58:38🔗CallerYeah. But it's hard for me to get rid of that.
58:47🔗AdamI know. What is that thing with people? It's like that tooth that hurts that you have to keep playing, if you keep flicking it with your tongue.
58:53🔗DrewI know. I think if we were from Mars, it would look different to us. We were observing the behavior. We were like, what's up with that one?
58:59🔗AdamYeah. You have to keep going around and around in this sort of chaotic dance. I know everybody has this.
59:05🔗Third Eye BlindI get all my songs from that too.
59:07🔗AdamThat's true. It is where all that sort of creative energy is spawned. But you have it more at 15, thankfully, than you do a 25.
59:16🔗Third Eye BlindYeah. She's not listening either. She's going to stay right in that one.
1:00:29🔗CallerAnd in the last like five days since I've really noticed it, I've experienced some discomfort with it, but I think it might be psychosomatic.
1:00:38🔗DrewWell, you got to get this checked out. There could be something maybe. Has it ever gone through a period where it really hurt? Have you ever injured it, anything like that?
1:00:44🔗CallerNo. It's just completely unexpected.
1:00:47🔗DrewAnd definitely you could feel a testy in the sack your whole life.
1:01:00🔗Third Eye BlindTo your nearest medicine man.
1:01:02🔗DrewThey can do an ultrasound and we'll look in there and see what's going on. Sometimes the blood supply can be affected. Sometimes you get hernias and things that kind of tie it up and pull it back up inside. There are things that can happen.
1:01:12🔗AdamI just thought about it actually shrinking. You don't believe them.
1:01:16🔗CallerWhat could ever be restored to its normal size?
1:01:18🔗DrewYou need a diagnosis, Jason, before we can even begin to speculate. So I don't know what's going on there right now.
1:01:25🔗Third Eye BlindBut you got to believe too.
1:01:26🔗DrewI do. Let's put it this way. The things we worry about, Jason, in the testes are the things that grow, not the things that shrink.
1:01:33🔗CallerSo I was reading on the Internet about that and I said, I was reading about torsions and things like that.
1:01:38🔗DrewYeah. Well, torsions, this could be some kind of chronic torsion. Maybe that's why it's shrinking. But be that as it may, it's stuff that really is an issue. You can do fine with one test if that's what's been happening. The things that are going to harm you are the things that are growing.
1:01:49🔗Third Eye BlindBut once again, you got to believe. Yeah, your balls will swing.
1:01:54🔗AdamYeah, as a matter of fact, you start closing your eyes and picturing your balls swinging like a giant pendulum. It actually helps, they say. And also if people pray for your balls, even people that don't know you. Always like when they make that stipulation when they're talking about prayer and healing, even people that don't know the person. Well, how do they know to pray for the person if they don't know them?
1:02:17🔗DrewI don't know. They've done these weird studies where it shows that the people that are being prayed for do better.
1:02:24🔗DrewYeah, the studies are out there. Now, they think, though, they may just be statistical aberrations. They're not large enough studies, but they're out there.
1:02:30🔗AdamYeah, I always hear that all the time. And you figure, well, it couldn't hurt. But then you figure there's a rational side that goes, oh, screw it.
1:02:38🔗Third Eye BlindI pray for people all the time.
1:02:41🔗AdamLike how? I mean, well, I don't know what I mean. I mean, who do you decide to pray for? Like your mom, who had breast cancer? Would you pray for her?
1:02:51🔗Third Eye BlindYeah, I pretty much, I pray for everybody I love, even when it's hard. And the thing is, I don't really believe in God, but I totally believe in praying. So I sort of invent God and then pray and move on.
1:03:05🔗AdamYou mean like out of paper mache or just in your mind?
1:03:35🔗AdamYeah, Jung Hee was trying to convert me to Buddhism, you know. And she was like, oh, this Buddhism works, man. And she dragged me down to this meeting. Was I an idiot? She dragged me down to this big meeting. I was the only round eye in the entire place. I was the tallest guy there, though. It was great. I felt like Shaq, you know. And we went to the Buddhist. We went to this big meeting, and they were going, listen, man, you chant on something, you get it. And people were like, stand up and go, and it wasn't about world peace. It was like, hey, I chanted on a 19-inch color television with a remote, an AMF antenna and everything, and I got it 10 days later. And it's like, of course, if I sat down every night and for 20 minutes focused on getting a TV set and just chanted, NOM, YORHON, RENGE, ZENITH, you know, and just pounded it into my brain, of course, I would be more...
1:04:30🔗AdamYeah, I would be more apt to go... I would be more apt to go get the TV set. I mean, obviously, it would make those goals easier. It's a good... So it's kind of a way of taking a religion that's not really a science and turning it into a goal thing.
1:04:48🔗AdamYeah, it's a practical matter. Yeah. But I don't know how that works with praying for parents or for people in hospitals or people you don't know. But I just know...
1:05:54🔗Third Eye BlindEmily shelled out a lot of money for those tickets because this is a benefit and they weren't cheap, so it's going to go to a good cause. It's going to go to Step Up Women's Network, which I've been producing the show with, and the money is going to go to the UCLA Breast Cancer Center and also the Kettering Center in Harlem, which gives breast cancer treatment to underprivileged women in that area. So, you're doing a good thing as well. I'm so glad you're making the trip.
1:06:25🔗CallerMy dad. Can I ask you something? You know how it moved from Greek theater to the other place? Yeah. Wilton. I think they charged us double for that.
1:07:12🔗AdamYou got to drive me out to Sacramento. He would still be laughing today. If I showed up at his house for dinner for Thanksgiving at 37, he would still be laughing.
1:07:25🔗Third Eye BlindThere's fans out there. Oh my god, these parents. If the Beatles reformed, I wouldn't drive from Sacramento. I mean, the fans are fans. It's a real culture.
1:07:38🔗AdamLike I said, I don't want to take anything away from Emily who was 14 and loves Third Eye Blind, but man, her dad. What a guy, too. He's probably a fan too or there's no way he'd make this track, but that's pretty cool.
1:07:53🔗Third Eye BlindThe parents, those guys are the rock fans. Those are the ones that came up with Led Zeppelin and Rolling Stone.
1:07:58🔗AdamWell, that's true. Let's talk to Jeremy.
1:08:14🔗CallerI was just curious. That happened a long time ago when I was like 8 and I'm 24 now. But I've been noticing lately I've been craving and kind of getting into anal sex with girls. Like, I had a nice girlfriend that I did it quite a bit with, but even now that I'm sexually active with other people, I'm kind of into it and it kind of excites me and ruins my stentema and everything. I get overexcited and I have like, you know, like pre-
1:08:42🔗AdamEjaculation. We blow it. All right. Hold on a second, Jeremy.
1:08:51🔗AdamAll right. Because we got to take ourselves a break. This is interesting.
1:08:55🔗DrewI like the way Jeremy is approaching. He's like a scientist looking at himself.
1:08:58🔗AdamYeah, like a scientist that studies anal rape.
1:09:02🔗DrewSuddenly I have a desire for anal sex.
1:09:04🔗AdamHe's at the crap center for anal rape. All right. Stephen Jenkins is here from Third Eye Blind. We'll take a little break and we'll get back with Jeremy and his anus after this.
1:09:15🔗Adam and Dr. Drew will be right back on Loveline.
1:09:44🔗CallerWhat's up? This is Chino and Stephen from Deftones, and you're listening to Loveline with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew.
1:09:54🔗AdamWell, there you have it. Love those guys. One of the acts on the bill, Saturday Night. Saturday Night at the Will-Turn, along with Third Eye Blind and many, many other big bands, all for a good cause, breast cancer. Stephen Jenkins is our guest tonight from Third Eye Blind, of course. When we left off, we were speaking to Jeremy, whose stepbrother raped him anally when you were how old?
1:10:26🔗AdamThere's a troubled kid. What's he up to today?
1:10:30🔗CallerI think he currently has something, whatever it's called, my other sister has a thing against him where he can't be in the same room by himself with them so I think there's still stuff going on in his life where he's still doing stuff like that.
1:10:51🔗Third Eye BlindHave you gotten therapy over this?
1:10:53🔗CallerYeah, quite a bit actually. I've been seeking counselors since I was fourteen myself. That's when I finally came out about it and I've also been doing some rehab centers lately too.
1:11:03🔗Third Eye BlindWell, good for you for coming out about it. I think that's really great.
1:11:08🔗DrewYou're an addict. Well, it's interesting that what all that therapy I suspect would have been focused on was teaching you to deal with the post-traumatic stress phenomena that come out of something like that. You're regulating your feelings. But what it doesn't do is sort of undo the wiring that gets sort of etched in as a result of that highly arousing experience in childhood.
1:11:30🔗AdamAlthough at eight the wiring is almost, the loom is almost completed.
1:11:46🔗AdamJeremy's a mess. He'll always be a mess. But I agree with Stephen. But what I'm saying is even still, as bad as this is, Jeremy, better at eight than at four.
1:11:57🔗DrewAnd be as it may, the fact is that you can now sit back sort of dispassionately and look at this and go, jeez, I'm getting these desires, these arousing experiences. And yet you're managing it, which is the difference. So therapy gives you an opportunity to sort of be able to tolerate your feelings.
1:12:09🔗CallerAnd I think a lot of guys are, you know, crave themselves that they even haven't experienced this. I mean, you know, anal does something that excites guys in general. Oh, yeah.
1:12:21🔗Third Eye BlindCome on. Actually, the forbidden is always, you know, of interest.
1:12:26🔗DrewI'm glad you said that because I don't get that. No, I don't.
1:12:49🔗Third Eye BlindYou see, because it's, what it's doing here is it's busting up your hustle, if you understand what I'm saying. And you don't want that.
1:13:01🔗AdamThough it is, I mean, a lot of guys have this with women. So for you, it's like, well, is this because of your past? Or is this something you'd be into anyway?
1:13:09🔗CallerThat's what I'm wondering. Yeah, is it because it's just the forbidden, you know, everything?
1:13:13🔗AdamThere's elements of that, but there's probably too much energy behind it for you.
1:13:21🔗AdamSo it's not something I think you have to promise never to do again. It's just something you have to keep an eye on.
1:13:28🔗Third Eye BlindYou know what? I think you already have this figured out. You know that this is somehow connected to something that's kind of twisted up. It's a normal desire, but for you it's not.
1:13:38🔗DrewBut help me understand what the desire is with animals. Is it an aggressive thing?
1:13:42🔗AdamWell, you're trying to put your penis in someone's hand. It's fun.
1:13:45🔗DrewI get that. It's fun. But what is it? What's the feeling behind it? Is it aggression? Or is it smelly? Is it an aggressive thing?
1:14:11🔗AdamMine's sharp enough to take an eye out.
1:14:13🔗DrewYeah, but it's more like a pin, though, so it would like to chop something.
1:14:16🔗Third Eye BlindYeah. You know, JFK once said, one of the world's greatest Flanders, said, I never feel like I've totally had a woman until I've had her all three ways.
1:15:05🔗AdamOkay. Snowboarding. Salinger Some guys are into it because it just plain feels good. There's just a sensation. It's a snugger fit and they like that. That's one group. Then there's a group that's into a little bit of, show me you love me. I mean, who's in control here?
1:15:38🔗AdamThere's a sort of subservient camp, and then there's the, I'm going to hurt you camp. You know, like here's how I know I'm totally, that you're totally in love with me and that I'm totally in charge in this relationship.
1:16:12🔗Third Eye BlindLook, we are a nation of total broods. We're puritanical. And the fact is that consenting adults who understand what they're about and what they want, get together and do naughty, wrong things. Right.
1:16:35🔗Third Eye BlindAnd don't let people judge you, you know? I mean, because you've got the Taliban is going to like dress us all up in smocks. So let's by all means be a nation of freaks, as long as we're healthy, clear-thinking freaks.
1:16:47🔗AdamI know. And what a country. Anal sex and kicking your country's ass. You know what I mean? Anal sex and a military?
1:19:01🔗CallerIt's psychological that I can't around a woman. I can sometimes, just not all the time.
1:19:06🔗AdamWell, here's the thing. If your mantra is, I can't have an erection around a woman, you won't.
1:19:11🔗DrewYou won't. And how she reacts to it helps you too. If she's sort of understanding and calms out as a focus on your performance and all that, these kinds of things often take care of themselves.
1:19:20🔗AdamBut just in life, you're not a real confident person? No. Yeah. And this is going right to your penis.
1:19:29🔗DrewThere is, you know, I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but there are things to improve your penile performance. And Viagra would do that. And perhaps you get a few good sessions under your belt.
1:19:40🔗AdamSo you're saying, like, sort of artificially do it, get it under your belt, and then you could move on.
1:19:49🔗DrewWhere do I go to get that? A doctor? Your doctor. Yeah. And then also you should be evaluated and make sure that it's not a medical... You're not diabetic or anything like that, right?
1:20:03🔗Third Eye BlindThis isn't about, this isn't about... This is about him feeling good about himself. That's really what it is. Figure out how to do that.
1:20:10🔗AdamWhat is it? I don't know why. Well, we're just getting a little tangential here because Stephen is here.
1:20:21🔗AdamWe're doing a lot of thinking. But what is it about certain people just kind of go through life sort of broken? And I know we want to blame everything on everyone's parents. But it's not that. It's like certain people are just almost like certain breeds of dogs.
1:20:34🔗AdamThey're like a little skittish and they're shy.
1:20:36🔗Third Eye BlindThey're just sort of born into that sign somehow.
1:20:39🔗DrewWhy don't people want to make change? This is the thing.
1:20:42🔗AdamI always say as a human being, the advantage we have over every other animal is we get to change. I mean you can take a look at yourself at 18 and be totally different at 28. You can be a new person. You can say to yourself at whatever age you are, hey, I got this, that, and the other that's really good about me, and then I got X, Y, and Z that's not very good about me, and I'll just go ahead and change that.
1:21:08🔗Third Eye BlindPeople will tell you that you can't change and don't believe them.
1:21:11🔗AdamNo, but we squander it as human beings.
1:21:14🔗Third Eye BlindThere's no capacity to change.
1:21:15🔗AdamYeah. I don't want to sound too preachy, but I'm a person personally who's changed completely.
1:21:42🔗DrewProbably in more than I would care to think of myself, but in my mind, I've changed in terms of-
1:21:50🔗AdamWell, I'm going to answer for you, Drew. You don't have to become a different person. I mean, I'm the same person as I was ten years ago. I just figured out a couple of things that were screwing me up and tried to change those couple of things so I could make some money and have a good life and enjoy my life. And everybody can do that. And that's all I'm saying is there's a couple- All of you have a couple of chinks in your armor. We all do. And just focus on those chinks and become a super person.
1:22:16🔗DrewAnd here's the problem is that what we have a lot of in our time is character problems, personality disorders. And the characteristic of having character pathology is blaming the external world for all of your problems. However you're feeling-
1:22:30🔗Third Eye BlindWhat do you mean by external world?
1:22:31🔗DrewIt's out there. It's their fault, the boss' fault, the world's fault, your fault. They cannot, cannot accept that it's they, they must look at themselves.
1:22:48🔗DrewCan't get away from a ticket without feeling like crap.
1:22:50🔗Third Eye BlindWell, I think I've probably changed more in the last year than I've changed in the last 10. I'm exhausted. I've had enough changing. I've had enough evolving and growing for a while.
1:23:02🔗AdamBut it's good. I mean, I know it sounds like we're all sitting here just stroking ourselves off on the radio.
1:23:11🔗DrewBut here's what I'm saying. You're doing it under the console, not the radio.
1:23:14🔗AdamI changed and I think I can speak for Stephen and Drew here, too. I changed because I wasn't right before. I mean, there were things that needed to change. And I'm not done changing and there's plenty more work to do and I think we'd all agree on that. For everybody.
1:23:28🔗Third Eye BlindWell, this guy we were just talking to, he's going to change and pretty soon he's going to get a wicked erection and-
1:23:46🔗AdamWhy be that person who's exactly the same at age 20 as you- I mean at age 40 as you were at 15 and you'll be the same at 75?
1:23:55🔗Third Eye BlindWell, because it's scary. That's one reason. I mean, you got to look at yourself and you got to get with it. That's a freaky proposition.
1:24:04🔗AdamI know. But believe me, everyone, just go out and do it. It's a much more satisfying existence. All right. I got to go home, beat off and take a nap.
1:25:04🔗AdamDr. Drew over there from Pasadena. Third Eye Blind CD probably won't be on the show, but it's on the show. The CD will probably be out in a few months, but they're working hard on it, at least Stephen is. He's built himself a new recording studio, which is done now?
1:25:21🔗Third Eye BlindIt's almost done. The studio is almost done. Having an album out in the next few months is really optimistic.
1:26:06🔗Third Eye BlindThe song makes you feel something, so that's what it's about. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, I mean, I wrote this song for very personal reasons, but if it travels to you, then what it makes you feel is what it's about. I'm totally serious. But if you want to know from me, what? Now, Adam's over here is like, no.
1:26:26🔗AdamI know. We get this all the time. What's the song about? Which is what's the song about, what's the song about, what's the song about? And the people say, what did it make you feel? And that's right. I agree with you.
1:26:39🔗Third Eye BlindThe song is in part is about kind of what we were just talking about during the break is that one of the lines in the song says, I walk home alone with you and the mood that you're born into. Sometimes you let me in and I take it on the chin. And it's kind of about those people who are just born under that sign and it's negative and they've got this really negative energy but you're drawn to them like the moth to the flame. Those people are always somehow so seductive to me. And it's those kinds of relationships that are negative but in a really gloriously beautiful and damaging way.
1:27:21🔗AdamYeah, there's a lot of seduction in that.
1:27:24🔗DrewThere's a good book about narcissism coming out called Why Is It Always About You? It talks about exactly this, why we're drawn into the orbit of people that are negative.
1:27:34🔗Third Eye BlindSo that's probably part of it. I never know what my songs are about. I just write them and I try to not judge what I'm writing as I do it and that's why it always makes me end up looking really bad.
1:27:49🔗AdamDo you go off of more of a feeling? I mean it's not like you're trying to convey a message. You're trying to respond to a feeling that you have, right?
1:27:58🔗Third Eye BlindYeah. I think you get into some kind of emotional condition and then there are words for it and you just try and put them down. I'm glad you like that song.
1:28:10🔗AdamAnd whatever feeling you have, that's the right one. Unless it's like kill. Kill your family or something. Maria?
1:28:26🔗CallerOkay. I did some speed on Tuesday afternoon and my arm went numb at 6 o'clock in the morning. And I was numb till like this morning on Thursday.
1:29:50🔗Third Eye BlindCan I tell you something? Can I just suggest something to you? I promise you that you have gotten absolutely every last drop of everything Speed has to offer you. So move on.
1:30:01🔗AdamThat's a good point. Yeah. It's such a crappy drug and doing Speed when you have kids is really like, I don't know, why don't you just do something like make snuff films or something, something more responsible?
1:30:17🔗DrewWell, here's the deal with the numbness. I mean, it's possible it was a stroke or what are they called? A reversal ischemic neurologic deficit.
1:30:32🔗DrewSo whatever it is, it's not a good thing. It needs to be evaluated and you need the sympathamine addiction treated.
1:30:37🔗AdamAll right. All right. And we were talking about denial earlier. Maybe it was off the air, but it's time to get out of that. Is that Michelle? I'll say it's Michelle.
1:30:49🔗AdamWhat's happening? It was spelled in a strange way. What's up?
1:30:52🔗Third Eye BlindWell, I would like to say, first of all, Third Eye Blind, Stephen Jenkins, you're awesome. My friends and I have been to six of your concerts, and every time we just have a fabulous time.
1:31:04🔗Third Eye BlindThe question is, oh yeah, one day a week. Anyway, the question is, my friend gave you a statue of a Greek god with a large penis in Santa Barbara a few years ago.
1:31:14🔗Third Eye BlindOK, right on. I was just seeing if maybe, you know, if you... My understanding is we ran into Orion in Reno, and he said that you guys carried around in the tour bus. And my friend was wondering if maybe you do, if it was just a myth.
1:31:27🔗Third Eye BlindNo, we actually really did carry that around on the tour bus. But the thing is, is that things from the tour bus get stolen. People wanting fans.
1:31:37🔗Third Eye BlindOur security is really bad. And so we lost the statue with the big penis. But we did really enjoy it for quite some time. So thank your friend.
1:31:44🔗Third Eye BlindBonus, and I will let her know, because she's just so jazzed. Anything or everything about Third Eye Blind, she is on 10 about. So I appreciate you. Thank you so much for all the joy that you brought my friends and myself.
1:31:55🔗Third Eye BlindOh, the pleasure is mine. Thank you.
1:31:57🔗Third Eye BlindOh, thanks, Michelle. You have a great night.
1:32:00🔗AdamThanks. You too. Well, we'll take a little break. And we'll be right back.
1:32:08🔗CallerOkay, so I know there's nothing wrong with me. So what's up?
1:32:10🔗CallerSo I was like you, and I used to think that these datelines were totally cheesy. Why can't I meet anybody? But I tried everything else and thought, what the hell? So I called the dateline and actually met a cool guy.
1:32:18🔗CallerAnd I called the dateline and I hooked up with some cool people.
1:32:20🔗CallerBelieve it or not, other normal people are out there looking too.
1:32:26🔗Caller1-800-LOVE-191. We'll be right back.
1:33:02🔗AdamYep, there it is, everybody. Another fantabulous week. Finally finished. I want to thank Damien for doing a great job on the phones. I want to thank Lauren for doing a great job with her dog. I'd like to thank Sarah for doing... No, she gets no thanks.
1:33:23🔗DrewOh, no, she's your Sarah. Yeah, we have a Sarah, too.
1:33:25🔗AdamBouncy, bouncy. That's right. And I want to thank Sarah, Sarah, Stephen's assistant.
1:33:30🔗Third Eye BlindGreatest personal assistant ever.
1:33:31🔗AdamYes. And I want to thank Tara, don't call me Tara, god damn it, for doing a great job on the phones. Producer Anne, of course, for booking great guests like Stephen Jenkins from Third Eye Blind. And of course, the man with the magic fingers over there. Anderson. Anderson. So again, everyone go out and support a very good cause Saturday night at The Will Turn with Stephen, Third Eye Blind and all his very talented friends. Stephen, good seeing you as usual.
1:33:59🔗Third Eye BlindIt's always a pleasure to see you guys.
1:34:13🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Engel. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.