1:01🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew. Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:13🔗VoiceoverHey, everybody, it's Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Drew over there. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician and Addiction Medicine Specialist. Travis is with us tonight.
1:31🔗AdamDougie Payne and Fran Healy are both here tonight from the band. You know, specialists in nothing. Well, that's all right. You're here because of your amazing music capacity. You know, we were, we were, you guys are from England, right?
1:50🔗AdamAll right. That's that's the same place to me. I don't know what's going on. I've never well, I've been I've been to parts of Mexico. But other than that, I've never been out of the United States. But we were explaining to the boys how the show went. Basically, it always gets a little depressing and surreal when we explain the show. Doesn't it, Drew?
2:10🔗TravisI did see your faces drop when you said just when the mics go on, just keep talking like this.
2:16🔗AdamIt's always funny, though, when people go. So how long has the show been on? And you go, 20 years. And they go, you've been here for 20 years? Drew always hangs his head and goes, yeah. Yes. Yes, very pathetic. Travis is going to be at the Amphitheater tomorrow night here at the Universal Amphitheater in Los Angeles. Although, that is sold out, correct? So we do not have to plug that. I will give you some tour dates where you can find Travis around the country, because you guys got a big tour, right?
3:14🔗TravisYeah, which can lead to either being very, very enthusiastic or very, very unenthusiastic.
3:19🔗AdamOr maybe both. Like you catch them really enthusiastic at the beginning of the set and by the end they're surly and they're vomiting and they're falling asleep.
3:28🔗TravisOr it can work the other way, you know, you take yourself through that.
3:30🔗AdamNow, do they drink more? Is it? Now here's what I think. I think we have plenty of alcoholics in this country, but that we monitor our booze more than they do in Europe. Like at our football games, we cut you off at half time, we charge eight bucks for a beer, you can't go to the concession stand and buy five beers, you can only buy one, you need to bring the other guy with you.
4:28🔗TravisYou don't put any weight on, but sometimes you lose weight.
4:30🔗AdamYou get into a fight and that will burn a few calories. That's smart. What we do is we get loaded and then we make a run to some chilly dog stand at 4 in the morning and really pack on the calories. There they just treat it like a meal.
4:46🔗DrewThey don't serve food 24-7 the way we do.
4:48🔗AdamThey have specified hours for food. You guys would be fat if you could do that because when you get really drunk out here and it's 2, 3 in the morning, you want to go on a run. You want to get some burgers or some hot dogs or something like that. But you guys can't do that.
5:27🔗AdamRight. They make a big thing out of it and then they just carve it off onto a plate. I like that drippings pan that's on at the bottom of that.
5:37🔗AdamAll right. So what the hell else was I asking? What do we need to know? Travis, In Town. Oh, The Invisible Band is the name of the CD. We're going to hear some stuff off of that. We'll hear a song in the first hour. Maybe we should hear a Travis song right now, just to get everyone lined up so they can go, oh, those are the guys who sing that song. All right. Yeah. This one's called Sing. You know, you know, Travis, everybody. The Invisible Band is the name of the CD. Producer, Ann just came in here and told me 2 million copies sold. Drew chimed in, wanted to know if that was just in North Hollywood. Drew, you always have to ruin it. Do you realize that you have that instinct in you? You know what I'm talking about?
10:29🔗AdamYou're the doofus spoiler. You're the guy where someone goes, hey, I got this sweater on sale. Got so much I paid for it. And you go $250 and they go, oh, no, it's not you. I paid 600. Is that you? I paid 600 for it. Oh, yeah. That is you, Drew. But unintentionally, he's a good man.
10:55🔗Basically, to keep it short, I had my girlfriend over Sunday night and I was a virgin or I should say still am. So we're over doing the whole foreplay thing and she asked if I have the condom. Being a virgin kind of caught me off guard.
11:12🔗So grab that and I'm a little nervous to say the least, and so lined up, ready to go and I just go limp.
11:22🔗DrewYeah. Which you'd be amazed that a significant percentage of men their first time out on the playing field, that's what happens. It's just anxiety provoking, it's overwhelming and your penis turns into someone else's.
11:40🔗CallerBut you know, you can still feel cute.
11:41🔗AdamYou know the thing that's so ironic about being a 15-year-old male is, you had the best boner of your life in second period the next day when you're wearing sweatpants and biology means something that you could have punched through a concrete barrier with it.
12:02🔗AdamThe bunker buster boner, but yet when you have a new bile 15-year-old girl nude in the room with you, it goes limp. Yeah, that's rough, Robert.
12:11🔗DrewBut that's normal. It happens all the time, Robert, and your job now is to not freak out about it. The more anxious you are, the more you're convinced it's going to happen again, and the more likely it is to happen again.
12:35🔗AdamWhy not? No, I mean, what if you were at home, I tell this to Drew all the time, you grab a handful of the condoms that they hand out at school, or at your church, or at your prayer meeting, or wherever you get them, and you just get a whole bunch of them, and you sit home alone on the foot of your bed, and you do what I do, which is I rate my pillow for about 10 minutes, and then I stop, turn on the light and see how fast I can get the condom on, and then commence raping the pillow. Again, and if you get used to that, and your penis gets used to you stopping and putting the condom on, I think it'll just work. Don't you?
13:32🔗AdamYeah, you know, it's kind of like, you ever see when they work on stuff and they put their hands into those gloves that are already in the box when they're working with chemicals or sand blasting or something like that.
13:42🔗DrewHey, even when we're doing surgery, nurses hold the gloves in, you go.
13:44🔗AdamRight, right in. Right. Put your penis right into the glove. No, this is this is just like a hook thing and it would mount, it would mount, I think, to your nightstand with a little clamp thing, like a reading light.
13:56🔗TravisYou really have thought this through, haven't you?
14:02🔗AdamNo, no, no, that's you don't want to go around your penis. Something that mounts, right, solid, and it's just hung out there, and you just, pow, in and out.
14:11🔗TravisCause it's the brick of momentum that's the problem. You want something that's quick and just...
14:15🔗AdamRight, you could have it preloaded, it would be hanging there like a wind sock.
14:19🔗DrewPreloaded, hands free, condom loaded. I see.
14:22🔗AdamThat's right, thank you. All right, and you wouldn't do that thing where you don't know what side of it, whether it's right side up.
14:28🔗DrewIt would all be there ready to go. It would be like one of those hands free telephone. Would you like command it to do it?
14:54🔗CallerWell, I got a little question for you. I've been dating this girl for about a week now. We've been friends for about five, six months. I'm 24 and I like sex, but it's not a big deal to me. She's never had sex and kind of wants to wait till marriage. Now, I really like her and wouldn't mind waiting, but eventually I'm going to want to have sex. And if she still says no, what's the easiest way to get out of the relationship without being shallow or like a dick?
15:34🔗AdamYou know it would be a good answer if some chick said, look, I want to wait until I'm married, until I have sex. It'd be great if you just said, well, marry some dude and then call me and I'll come by and nail you.
15:51🔗DrewNo, Chris, maybe, all right, this is a decision you have to make, right? Now, you have to decide whether or not you can wait or if this is something that's more important to you.
16:02🔗CallerWe've been seeing Senator Battle a week and three days.
16:04🔗DrewA week and he's counting the minutes. This isn't going to work. But Chris, you have to be willing to protect things that she values. And if this is something she's telling you, you've got to believe it. And if something she values a lot, you owe it to her out of respect to be cautious with that.
16:18🔗TravisThe thing is, do you want a relationship or do you just want sex?
16:21🔗CallerOh, no, no, I do. That's what's making this kind of like a hard decision. But I see we kind of fool around. She lets me do the finger thing down there. And I'm kind of wondering what's the difference between the finger and the real thing to her. Do you think she'd take the real thing over the fingers?
16:35🔗AdamWell, one of them has a nail on the end of it.
16:40🔗AdamAnd the other has something where semen comes out and you get pregnant. Is that what he's asking? The difference between sex and the finger? Well, yeah, that's what you were asking, right?
16:51🔗CallerI was just kind of wondering, because some will actually not like the finger thing down there, and would rather have the penis.
16:56🔗AdamWell, what if you were holding your penis with your hand? Would that be kind of a compromise? Hey, Chris, didn't you say you hadn't had sex in a while or something?
17:07🔗CallerIt's been a while. I do masturbate a little bit.
17:11🔗AdamOkay. All right, well, you can stay up with that.
17:13🔗DrewI don't think this relationship is going to work, Chris. I just don't see it.
17:16🔗AdamReally? I think Chris is kind of a jackass, don't you?
17:29🔗DrewChris doesn't want to get married. He doesn't want to marry her.
17:32🔗AdamBut listen to this. What do you guys think about this? I think a lot of women say, no, I don't want to do this. Oh, boy, this is going to be politically incorrect. But don't you think half of them say it to hear themselves say it, to go down on record to say, I said I didn't want to do this. And then a few weeks in the relationship, you guys are out drinking and one thing leads to another, and you end up doing it. But in their mind, they were going to wait until they were married.
17:59🔗DrewI think they really don't want to do it. They believe that once they've decided to go ahead with the guys, like really serious, whatever that means, and they're deluding themselves.
18:38🔗CallerAll right. Drew, I've heard you talk about when you do ecstasy, there's profound long-term damage that never goes away. I was wondering if heroin had the same effect on your brain.
18:50🔗DrewNo, it doesn't, interestingly. Heroin, while it causes the most severe form of addiction, leaves your brain relatively unchanged.
18:58🔗DrewBecause it's not a neurotoxin. It does change perhaps permanently your pain perception. In other words, your ability to tolerate discomfort, it may be permanently impaired, and certainly for 6 to 12 months, it is profoundly impaired. But there may be some persistent impairment. And there clearly is a change in the reward system of the brain that causes these very powerful feelings of emptiness and drive towards the heroin. But in terms of their brain loss, or brain destruction, or disruption of normal brain function, no.
19:28🔗DrewHeroin leaves your brain as it found it, basically.
19:30🔗AdamI just had an idea. You know how they work on these types of produce that is not susceptible to certain worms, or that can travel. You know I'm talking about hybrids stuff. What about some hybrid heroin? Some non-addictive heroin. Because everyone talks about how good it is, and I want to do it, but I don't want to get addicted.
19:52🔗DrewYou sound like a pharmaceutical doctor now, because they are in the eternal quest for the non-addictive opiate and the non-addictive benzodiazepine. But here's the reality. Hold on.
20:14🔗DrewSo if it is a benzo, if it is an opiate, it will always be addictive. You will never see the non-addictive, fill in the blank, opiate or benzo. Never happen.
20:26🔗DrewBecause of how they operate at the receptor level. If they are stimulating those receptors, then those receptors are changing their configuration and it is game on. Alright.
20:34🔗CallerI have one more question. What do you think about methadone? Because I have been going to meetings for years and that is the reason I have the first question for you, is so that when I get clean, I want to know that there is no bounce back where I am going to freak out, whatever.
20:49🔗DrewAre you on methadone now? I personally, there is a very powerful trend suggesting that methadone is a way to go these days, that harm avoidance is the sort of treatment of choice. I am quite opposed to that. I mean, I think there are places where methadone has a role to be played, but boy it is a disaster once you are on it. It is just very difficult to come off that drug.
21:15🔗TravisIs methadone more addictive than heroin?
21:18🔗CallerEverything I have heard from the meetings suggests to not do that.
21:22🔗DrewUnless you want to be chronically ill, chronically in your disease, albeit a less acute form of it, I will give you that. It is still chronically ill when you are on methadone.
21:30🔗AdamMethadone has been around for 20 years, right? Maybe more. Isn't it time for methadone too? You know what I mean? Make something that is a little better.
21:41🔗DrewThere is something called lamb and there are other things out there. Lamb?
21:45🔗AdamLike what we are talking about with the kebabs and the swarma? The elephant's leg?
21:49🔗TravisThe elephant's leg instead of methadone.
21:53🔗DrewThere are things being tried but nothing really is replaced yet. Methadone is having a huge resurgence.
21:58🔗AdamAre they working on that? Yeah, all the time. It just seems like the technology hasn't changed since 1975 or something.
22:06🔗DrewNo, no, no. You got bupren-X now and you've got lamb and stuff. But it's all the same thing. Look, it's a long acting methanol. Long acting opiate.
22:38🔗CallerAll right. My question is, what gave you the inspiration to write Last Train?
22:44🔗CallerLast Train, I suppose the thing that makes the lyrics that lead the lyrics is the melody. Melody is always, if you hum a tune, you'll have vowel sounds in that tune. That usually dictates the lyric, and the lyric ends up being a certain thing. It's very hard to say.
23:05🔗DrewThat's what the guys of System Of A Down said, didn't they?
23:11🔗AdamTravis and System Of A Down, it's really the same pair. Travis is a tribute band. They don't like to be called a copy band. It's a tribute band.
23:20🔗TravisNo, I'll thank you just to stop right there.
23:24🔗CallerBut I don't know. I mean, it was written in Los Angeles.
23:28🔗TravisYeah, that song has been kind of... I mean, it's kind of open to interpretation. It's the way that the lyrics have ended up, I suppose, is about, you know, you have the power to choose between doing something positive with whatever energy you feel, whether that be anger or frustration or whatever, or something negative. And you have those. You always have that choice. And, you know, as the lyrics say, you can either write a song or buy a gun. And we would strongly recommend writing a song.
23:56🔗CallerYou can just, you know, you can make all the feelings that you feel if they're bad feelings. You can polarize them. And I think if you've got the propensity to make people's lives an absolute misery, you have the equal propensity to make their lives a total joy.
24:13🔗CallerAnd you can, you know, that's the thing. And it's just the basic choice that you have to make.
24:18🔗AdamIt's a good point to go out on. We're going to take ourselves a little break. Travis is our guest tonight. When we come back, we'll speak to Mindy. Who wants to finger her boyfriend's butt?
24:29🔗DrewSpeaking of taking negative energy and turning it into something positive. Total joy, as he says.
25:25🔗CallerCome on now. I really don't, I'm really, I'm really, what did you say, a hermit. But I'm not, see, I used to do a lot of screwing around in my medication because Aussie is king.
26:01🔗AdamThere's Aussie, everybody. Travis in here. Tony Hawk, the crazy. Now, is skateboarding big? Well, you guys are from Scotland? Yeah, it has been big over there.
26:13🔗TravisIt has. I've heard of Tony Hawk, so it must be reasonable.
26:25🔗AdamWow. All right, Tony will be in here on Wednesday. Good guy. Always good to see him. Travis here tonight. We'll hear something else off of the CD before the night is through. Mindy?
29:03🔗CallerJust tell him Travis said it was okay.
29:05🔗AdamSame thing I do with the vibrator. You don't discuss it, you unveil it. You see what I'm saying? Keep your finger hidden under the pillow.
29:13🔗DrewWell, it's unveiling like an F-16 unveils them.
29:16🔗AdamYeah, a Sidewinder missile. Yeah, I'm just saying, when guys get into this all the time, they want to use a vibrator on a woman. So what they want to do is they sit down and they plop it down on the table and they want to have a discussion about it. That's not the way to do it.
29:31🔗TravisIt's best to just introduce it in a situation that's appropriate.
29:34🔗AdamYeah, that's right. Get the juices flowing and then unveil it. Don't make a big deal about it.
29:43🔗TravisI've got a really nice image of you unveiling.
31:01🔗CallerWhat do you think about it? I mean, I don't see. There's nothing really that.
31:05🔗DrewWell, it's not huge. It's a disturbing situation. But as we've said in the past, you're being a couple of 18-year-olds and put them on the same roof. They didn't before they were just classmates.
31:34🔗AdamI know how it is. You don't want to date a guy who lives, let's say, a block away. He's got to live under the same roof. Who needs that hassle of getting on your moped and going down the street?
33:01🔗AdamOh, that would be worse. That's right. But it's still a little weird, you two living under the same roof and having a relationship.
33:08🔗DrewI use the word sick kind of generically. It's sort of a sick situation.
33:11🔗AdamSo you're 23 years old. How about getting a few more hours at work, getting a friend and moving out, getting an apartment and starting your adult life?
34:55🔗AdamAll right. Good times there. Let's do a little Loveline reenactment. Go ahead, Drew. I'll be Carlotta. Give me the speech about moving out of the house.
35:05🔗DrewI think what you ought to do is get a friend together, get a little cash, work a few more hours at work, and move out on your own, start your adult life.
35:13🔗AdamI'm just seeing other guys. See, we have the world's dumbest callers on the show. Easily. Easily. I've said it once. I'll say it again. I will put our callers against any other talk show, national or regional, regional, satellite. I don't care who. Bring them on. Yes. We will come up at the bottom. Katie?
35:48🔗CallerFran, I just want to ask you how you felt when you met Paul McCartney, because I know he's been a big influence on you.
35:54🔗CallerI think we all kind of hung out with Paul for about two hours. We had him for and he played his songs and we played him songs. And it was like the thrill of everyone's career and life. It's kind of one of those things when you see someone like that.
36:11🔗TravisIn three dimensions that you've never seen in two. He was an amazing guy. He's a lovely, lovely man.
36:17🔗TravisYeah, he really is. I think it's when somebody's done everything that they could ever want to do. They've got nothing left to prove and it's just like, they're very nice to you.
36:27🔗AdamHe seems so secure that he's able to be nice.
37:51🔗AdamYeah. You know what? That is a move you don't see anymore, which is instead of taking the extra tenth of a second to actually go around the front of the car, I'll dive across the hood of the car. I'll risk injuring and destroy the car, but I'll save a tenth of a second.
38:12🔗AdamYou know what I've found about security in general? They have two modes. They have smoking or sleeping, or sometimes both, and now talking on a cell phone to their girlfriend and doing nothing while you're being attacked by people. Or they have the super vigilant, you're not going on stage, I don't care if you're with the band, I don't care if you're playing, you can't get on stage. It's like one of two modes, and I would like to say this to all the security personnel. How about something in between those two things?
38:47🔗AdamWhen you're on, I can't get on stage to bring out the band for the concert that my radio station is holding. And when you're off, I'm being gang raped by a team, a drunken horde, and you're talking on a cell phone.
39:01🔗AdamIt's one or the other. They have two modes. I'm not sure which one I don't like more. They're both pretty bad, right? All right. Travis is here. We'll take ourselves a little break. We'll come back. We'll speak to Crystal. She's been with 50 guys, and her new boyfriend can't stand it. He wishes it was more like 75.
40:33🔗AdamWhat were we talking about? Yeah. Here's the phone number, 1-800-L-M-E-1-9-1. Tony Hawk in here on Wednesday night. We're going to be at the Museum of Television Radio tomorrow night.
41:00🔗CallerHey, and your screener has a great way of twisting everything that I told him into a little nice story for you guys.
41:06🔗DrewAll right. Will you tell us the real thing?
41:08🔗CallerOkay. So I wanted to call and talk about my boyfriend's stamina. It's not too long. It's probably about a good five, maybe ten minutes. And what really bothers me is that what he lacks, he makes up for doing it over and over again. So instead of getting a good half an hour out of it, I get short bursts. Yes. And it's horrible because I don't get off.
42:20🔗DrewWhat difference does it make if he goes 30 minutes if you're not able to have an orgasm anyway?
42:25🔗CallerYou know, the more it builds up, the more stimulation I get.
42:29🔗DrewYou present it as, I can't get off if he doesn't last at least 30 minutes. Then you say, well, reality is I've never had an orgasm, of course.
42:35🔗AdamYou've had 49 guys strike out and one bull dyke with a strap on strike gold.
42:40🔗CallerIf I did, I really wasn't aware of it. You know, it's mostly just been, okay, well, I'm used to not getting it from the inside. So I need to stimulate myself while it's happening. But I want it where it's going to happen from just the inside. And that's really, I can't remember a time that's really happened.
44:20🔗CallerNot all of the 40 or 50 men have all been men. There's been quite a few women thrown in there.
44:26🔗AdamI see. Okay. All right. But here's our point. You had no luck with 25 or 30 guys. Why is this guy getting the brunt of all the blame? I know you're disappointed by him, but it's not as if you're having a great sexual time with all these other guys. They weren't satisfying you either.
44:44🔗DrewYeah. I think this is going to be that thing that sexual compulsives get, which is constantly not enough, dissatisfied, more, never enough. That's what having been sexually abused causes, and that's what sexual compulsivity is all about.
45:10🔗AdamI know. But here's, look, you've had the best oral you've ever had. You're getting three laps times three. You got to give this guy seven and a half.
45:24🔗CallerYes, yes I do. Oh, please. It's been two years we've been with each other. We've been through hell and back. We were high school sweethearts. It's been a whole eight years.
45:32🔗AdamOkay. But maybe how about some therapy? Yeah, a lot of therapy.
45:35🔗CallerI've tried there. I've been there, done it. How much? I could be your counselor. That's how long I've been in therapy.
45:48🔗CallerI've been in therapy since I was four years old, and I finally stopped when I was 18, because that's when I left the foster system. It was on my own.
45:55🔗CallerThat's when I left the foster system and was on my own.
45:58🔗AdamOh, boy. Baby, listen, though. Someone who's been through what you've been through in your life, and we're just using our imagination and going to think it's been a lot, that you've been through, this is going to be an ongoing thing with you, okay? All right? The therapy. Just stick with it. Here's all I'm saying. Ninety-nine percent of the people call the show and say, I got a problem with sex. It turns out to be a problem with something that dad did to a woman when they were five.
46:22🔗TravisIt's transference of the problems onto something.
46:27🔗AdamYeah, it is. Now, don't deny that. I think it's a simple way of putting it. You're taking this energy that should be worked on in this department and you're putting it in your garage, and you can spend your entire life chasing that, which will never have an end or conclusion to it, or you can do a little therapy and try to find yourself and get healthy again, and that's what our caller Crystal needs to do. Travis is here. We'll take ourselves a little break, and we'll be right back.
48:30🔗AdamYou guys cover this one, right? And again, not a cover band. That's a rip-off. This is a tribute band.
48:37🔗TravisYeah, it's a tribute band. It's kind of System of a Down with its own twist.
48:40🔗AdamIt is a tip of the hat to System of a Down. It is not ripping them off. Dougie is here and so is Fran. And again, from Travis, The Invisible Band is the name of the CD. We're going to hear something off of that CD. Two million sold, thank you, worldwide. We'll hear something off of that in just a couple of calls. Right now, we'll speak to, where are we going to speak, Sarah? Yeah. How's that? Sarah?
49:10🔗CallerHey, I wondered if you had any Scottish influences, bands or Scottish has influenced you?
49:16🔗CallerWell, when we were doing our final demos before going to London to get a deal, we went to the studio where Teenage Fan Club were recording. Oh, sure.
49:36🔗CallerI don't remember them. But they kind of gave us their equipment. They gave us all these really lovely acoustic guitars. And I played through Norman's Vox amp.
49:46🔗TravisAnd it was all the stuff which we proceeded to sell.
49:49🔗CallerAnd we met, we met, they were, they were doing something with Alex Chilton at the time. They were rehearsing with Alex Chilton from Big Star. It was kind of cool.
49:57🔗TravisAnd I think, well, I think as far as kind of Scottish influences go, it's kind of more than anything. It's our folks, our parents and families and friends.
50:06🔗TravisWell, yeah. And just kind of personality-wise, I think more than anything. It's Scottish, Scottish people, especially kind of the West Coast, Scotland, Glasgow and stuff. People are generally pretty open and kind of, I suppose, modest and it's just, it's a nice place to come from.
50:19🔗CallerYeah. Well, I have kind of a cheeky request.
50:35🔗CallerAnd like he took his demos to the record, your demos to the record company. He was like, oh, Travis, they're so great and everything. And then like a month later, like you were signed and they were dropped.
51:15🔗CallerI'm just begging. I just had this fantasy one day, I talked to Travis and asked him to put in a good word if they ever had a chance.
51:22🔗CallerWell, the Frank Reader is a brilliant singer. The guy is very, very talented. His sister is Eddie Reader from Fairground Attraction. Their whole family is full of brilliant singers.
51:33🔗AdamSave it for the record company, though. I mean, don't shoot your wad here when you talk to the label.
51:46🔗CallerWell, I've had bladder infection symptoms for eight weeks, but I've never had any bacteria cultured. And I wondered if you had any idea what that could be. They're going to do like an exam, but the urologist doesn't think he's even going to see anything.
51:57🔗DrewYou're going to have a cystoscopy? Yeah.
51:59🔗CallerBut he said, you know, oh, that usually just shows irritation.
52:02🔗DrewRight. And you're going to get a grab bag diagnosis called interstitial cystitis.
52:07🔗CallerThey won't tell me it's that. Do you think it could be that?
52:10🔗DrewYeah. Which is sort of when they can't figure anything else out. That's what they call it. Do you do a lot of bike riding or spinning? No. Sometimes that causes no vaginal problems.
52:26🔗AdamWho is it, the bass player from the trash can Sinatra? Who's been doing this damage to you? And by the way, listen, let me talk to Damien, the phone screener. Please, no more trash can Sinatra slash vaginosis questions. I'm up to here with these things.
53:17🔗CallerWell, I was wondering about the spermicide on condoms because there's been a few occasions where I'd be having sex with my boyfriend and in certain positions they would come off inside me and we wouldn't know until we were both done.
53:39🔗DrewNo use. That's when you got to get the emergency contraceptive.
53:42🔗AdamWhy do they put it on there if it has no use?
53:44🔗DrewAs much as anything, it was a selling point because they used the non-oxynol 9 stuff and so it was supposed to be maybe to kill some of the HIV. So it really does not have a significant effect. Certainly if a load is dumped in her vagina, Oh no. You've got to kill. Seed is spilled.
54:24🔗AdamDid you take my advice and use compressed air or did you just try to do it digitally? Compressed air will get it out faster than almost anything.
54:38🔗DrewOkay. Keep that in your medicine cabinet.
54:41🔗CallerI also have one more question that Sarah actually brought to my attention. I heard that the symptoms for a urinary tract infection is also the same symptoms that you could find for chlamydia. Is that true?
55:08🔗AdamI know. I've said it before. But I'm gonna say it again. Having that vagina is a full-time job. I mean, it is. It's like you driving, you know, a vintage Jaguar for your daily driver. Just a hassle. I mean, it's great. It's great when everything's working great, but it's not an everyday car. You know, it's a Sunday car. You wouldn't want to be stuck with it.
55:31🔗TravisIt requires a lot of care and attention.
55:32🔗AdamYeah, when it's raining and when you're running late for work and the carbs aren't synchronized and, you know, the electrical's on the fritz. I mean, you know what I mean? It's like that vagina is just a full-time job. No wonder women don't get paid as much as men. They can't work as many hours with that vagina. They're constantly depending to it.
55:51🔗DrewTeams of people standing by to help them.
55:53🔗AdamYou need a staff of people like, I see, you need like an entourage for your vagina.
55:59🔗CallerA vagina mechanic. Yeah, I mean, like I said, if you open up the hood and just poke about.
56:05🔗AdamIt's like driving an exotic car every day.
56:38🔗AdamNo, no one will try to steal it. I came out one morning, some kids were poking around, I told them to beat it and that was it. No one wants it. Why put an alarm on it? I leave the underpants open at night. I don't want anyone breaking into it.
57:28🔗CallerOkay. My question is for Dr. Drew. Yep. I kind of have two different problems. They kind of, and I'm wondering if there's a correlation between the two of them. I'm on antidepressants. Right now, I'm on Walbutrin and Boostbar. And I've been on probably a dozen different types of antidepressants within the last year because what happens is, they work for a short amount of time, sometimes only a week or two, sometimes two or three months, and then they stop working. Right. A couple of times, like when I was on Effexor, they tried to keep bumping it up to make it work. Right. And it actually had like an adverse effect.
58:40🔗DrewBecause he's describing a situation that there's certain people that don't respond to antidepressant medicine very well. They respond for a very short period of time. And these people do respond to shock therapies, which has sort of been shown now to be quite effective and efficacious. I have to deal with this a lot with people that did a bunch of acid. That was my next question. People that did a bunch of LSD have such severe depletion of their brain chemicals that the antidepressants can't support it, but the shock therapies do.
59:06🔗AdamYeah, it's kind of stigmatized, the shock therapy, though, right?
59:27🔗CallerThat is a lot. That was my question, if there was a correlation between the two of them.
59:31🔗DrewI see it all the time. My experience has been that you really got to go down towards the shock therapies to get some response. These are disabling depressions from LSD.
59:44🔗AdamThere is a lesson to you, kiddies. You got to pay the fiddler at some point. You cannot just get high, incredibly crazy, out of your brain high constantly for long periods of time and expect not to change your brain chemistry. That's right. You are altering your brain so many times. It just stands to reason, even though lay people can understand why it would then be altered permanently at a certain point.
1:00:12🔗TravisBecause it forgets what it's got to go back to.
1:00:14🔗CallerWhat made you stop taking acid or have you stopped taking acid?
1:00:19🔗CallerChuck? Yeah, I haven't done any drugs probably in the last seven years. I was like one of those, you know...
1:00:27🔗CallerDid you just drift off them or did you...
1:00:31🔗CallerWell, it kind of just ran its course. You know, everything's fun and games when you're back, when it's happening and then finally you wake up one day and you realize that, you know, maybe this wasn't such a good idea. So I kind of, you know, just pretty much stopped.
1:00:50🔗AdamSo Chuck, look into the electroshock stuff, all right?
1:01:00🔗AdamAll right. Take care of yourself. All right. Yeah, that acid. It just, you can, listen, you can do whatever you want a couple of times, but you just can't do that stuff all the time.
1:01:20🔗AdamAll right. But they're bound. They're just weak people, weak-minded people. I have no sympathy for those people, but the people who abuse it, they got to stop. All right. We're going to hear something from Travis. How about that? Yes. Did you cue it up there, Anderson? This one is called Side. That is our new friends, Travis. The Invisible Man is the name of the CD. Two million sold worldwide. Drew thought it was just in the greater Los Angeles area that they sold.
1:05:38🔗AdamWe were just talking about world events during the commercial and I'm sorry, during the song and the tragedy and all that. And you know it's something I don't know why I was just thinking about this but you know there's all these accusations coming from Afghanistan that we're bombing and targeting civilians and I thought you know.
1:05:58🔗DrewAnother one of the Gables. What would be in it for us?
1:06:00🔗AdamWell A, what's in it for us but B, let's just say for the sake of argument you're right. We are solely targeting civilian population. Don't you think we'd be doing a little better job? You know what I mean? Like let's just use your logic. All right. We're going after civilians. Hey if we're going after civilians we take out the whole goddamn country would have been gone by now. The reason it's taking us a long time is because we're sort of picking our targets and trying to surgically do our thing and yes civilians get caught in that but if we were in fact going after them we just start some carpet bombing with the B-52s and the whole place would be burning right now. So use your logic and think about the arsenal we have in its proximity to where you are and if we were going after every hospital, every church, and every village would be burning right now obviously.
1:06:54🔗CallerThe whole thing is so political as well though.
1:06:57🔗AdamYeah it's just it's the things that's the accusations that people make that have zero merit or that they don't think through you know it's like well then we turn we turn guilty like oh yeah no well we're defensive like we don't mean to. No that that's the problem yeah I think somebody should look somebody in the eye and say you really think if this country was intending to get civilian targets we wouldn't have more than this by now yeah we'd have the whole country.
1:07:23🔗CallerThe good thing is you don't even know, knowing you're not we're not told anything.
1:07:28🔗AdamNo no not really but I'm fine with that.
1:07:31🔗CallerIf you've seen the press conferences that the Pentagon have been having and they just can't really answer anything because if they were to answer anything and say exactly what they've been doing then they would be telling the enemy or whatever. So it's futile I'm massively opposed to it I think we both are because we've been going from hotel to hotel across America. CNN and there's it's just it's the fear thing you know it's like the volume of you know making everyone really really I don't know is it overly afraid or is it you know there's nothing more harmful for anybody wherever they're from than to live in a climate of fear.
1:08:07🔗TravisYou know something that is harmful a very completely fundamental level.
1:08:13🔗DrewIt's never really happened in this country before but it's happening now.
1:08:16🔗CallerI know but it's I don't know it's kind of stretched out there's there's you know there came a point when they're they're just seeming to be fell in space until it's weird.
1:08:25🔗TravisIt's kind of what the news does wherever you're on it you know. It makes you feel generally you're given bad news all the time. And you're made to feel afraid so that you run to government or to anybody in a position of authority for security.
1:08:38🔗AdamWell you know I maybe I'm being naive but I wonder and maybe this is just my personal feeling because I'm not really scared but I'm definitely interested in talking about everything and I know everyone's concerned and I know it's a topic that's on everyone's mind but I wonder and everyone says we're in fear, we're a nation in fear, but I wonder if you just stop people if they're actually really fearful. I think it's more that they're interested in it. It's provocative and I think there's no I'm not saying they don't have some sense of fear but I don't think this country's paralyzed and I don't think most people you come across are walking around in fear.
1:09:21🔗TravisI don't think they should. I don't think fear is a constructive thing ever.
1:09:25🔗AdamNo and I think it's talked about more than it's feared. Do you know what I'm saying? Drew, you're such a puss. Please, you're driving me nuts. Here's what I'm saying, Drew. I know we have reason to be concerned and I know there are people that are fearful and you're fearful yourself, but you're not really, you're not fearful, you're not walking around in agony.
1:09:48🔗DrewI think if you have kids it feels totally different. If we're just me, bring it on. But when you have kids, you are walking around anxious 24-7.
1:10:00🔗AdamNo, that's because you're half-Jewish.
1:10:01🔗DrewNo, that's all the parents we talk to, other people come to my office and complain about it.
1:10:06🔗AdamDon't you think there's more talk about it than there is, it's going to happen to me? Do you know what I mean? How many people actually think something's going to happen that's going to involve them? Do you know what I'm saying?
1:10:16🔗DrewI have found there are sort of two camps. One is like, I'm not taking this stuff seriously, it doesn't apply to me. And other people are thinking, anytime now.
1:10:25🔗AdamI think almost everyone has that anytime, but I'm not going to be the one who's at the mall.
1:10:30🔗DrewI think that's a normal defense, though.
1:10:32🔗AdamYeah, and that's what I'm saying. So people are talking about it, and they're fearful of it, but I don't think people have this realization, like I'm going to be on the next plane, or I'm going to be at this stadium.
1:10:42🔗TravisI don't think that anybody ever feels that way. I think that it's part of human nature to even deny that.
1:10:47🔗DrewI mean, the guys walking out of Omaha Beach, well, I looked around them and said, oh, those poor guys around me are not going to make it off.
1:10:52🔗AdamRight, right. Omaha Beach is not in Omaha, by the way. I just want to tell our young listeners, he's talking about World War II and D-Day, I'm guessing. All right, we're going to take ourselves a little break. Travis is here. At what percentage of our stone listeners do you figure Omaha Beach was in Omaha, Nebraska?
1:11:08🔗DrewSave It Private Ryan was a pretty popular film. I thought maybe they picked it up there.
1:11:11🔗AdamNo, I think they're saying Nebraska's landlocked, cruise high. I don't know. All right, we'll take a break. We'll be back.
1:12:00🔗AdamDougie and Fran are both here from the band. What do I want to say? The Invisible Band's the name of the CD. What else do I want to plug for Travis? Sold out at the Ampa Theater. Congratulations for tomorrow night.
1:13:13🔗AdamAll right. Let's put them on home. We'll get back with them and check them with them. It's always fun when someone falls asleep. No greater tribute can be paid to a host all the time. Oftentimes, Drew nods off during one of my rants. When I start getting, a vagina is like a Steinway piano. Now, I hear Drew, ahhhhhh.
1:13:36🔗AdamMan has a kazoo. This is what he hears.
1:13:39🔗CallerAnd then, I'm in the back, I'm like, see, the reason the vagina is like the Steinway piano is that it needs constant tuning. And you need a band of technicians to look after it. Because it will go south on you, so. What a man has is a kazoo.
1:14:02🔗AdamNo, no, no, no, harmonica, harmonica between his legs.
1:14:05🔗CallerYou see, you can't break it. Hey, Drew, you listening?
1:14:23🔗CallerYeah, my boyfriend performed oral sex on me. And a few days after, I noticed I had this red bump and I was really worried about it. And then it turned into a blister.
1:15:41🔗DrewOkay. And is it, yeah, that's a, you can get cysts there.
1:15:45🔗AdamHow many millimeters away would you say? I mean, as the crow flies.
1:15:53🔗DrewThere's also something called molluscum contagiosum. They get these little red bumps that can look kind of funny. Yeah. This is not herpes though. Okay.
1:16:26🔗DrewAre you sure you're ready to engage in that kind of behavior with this guy? It seems like it freaks you out just to sort of be strapped with the responsibility of what can happen with this behavior.
1:16:54🔗AdamNot yet. I'll tell you, to me, this whole oral thing coming before the intercourse is part of the dating rituals, would not have flown when I was in high school.
1:17:04🔗DrewYou wouldn't have gone further than that? That would have been it?
1:17:06🔗AdamNo, I'm saying, when you went down on a woman, you had intercourse with her first, or you were having intercourse with her simultaneously.
1:17:23🔗AdamYeah, it really has. I mean, as bizarre as it sounds, and I think it's a little different with the woman performing it on the man, but the man performing it on the woman, like, think of all the buddies you had. It wasn't really discussed. I mean, there was, did you have sex? Did you feel a boob? You know, did she do this to you? But it wasn't ever, did you go down on her?
1:18:26🔗I'm doing great. I just had a couple of questions for you. I like the year in UK music has just been really, really cool. And I was wondering what you guys are thinking about some of the artists out there, like David Gray and Doves and Muse and all that. And what you guys are thinking about that?
1:18:41🔗TravisAnd Doves are fantastic. We're going on tour with Doves actually next year in the UK. We went to see them in New York and they were amazing. One of the best live bands about. And there's loads of good stuff about it. There's a band called The Beta Band, who are fantastic. They've got a great new record out called Hot Shots 2.
1:18:58🔗AdamLet's not forget the trash cans and address.
1:19:01🔗TravisNot to forget the trash cans of course.
1:19:03🔗No, the cool thing about the Beta Band actually is I got to see them with Radiohead this year.
1:19:34🔗AdamLet me tell you something else about the DJ business. Back when I was in the DJ business, we had to get milk crates and fill them full with records and drug, drag them, drag them to every wedding environment. Now you kids with your custom made CDs.
1:19:56🔗AdamIt's another one of the things on my list. Sometimes I even find stuff that didn't affect me that much because I wasn't a DJ, but I still have sympathy for those who were. I mean, think about that. Remember when guys would like in the 80s would do a wedding and the guy would show up with like three or four of those milk crates full of, you know, each weighed 70 pounds, fully laden and they'd be dragging them out from the truck.
1:20:22🔗AdamYeah. You're done, right? Custom do all that. You play the old time rock and roll by Bob Seeger. So the old folks can dance. Now, why is the wedding music the worst? You got to hear Billy Idol's Mony Mony a couple of times. At least twice. Yeah. What is that? David?
1:21:02🔗CallerYeah. I had a question for Dr. Drew. Yeah. Well, I was on ortho-tricyclin, and it was last year I got married and I got in birth control, and I got depressed, and I just figured it out a year later. So I went to the psychiatrist and they said that it might be my birth control, whatever, and I went to the doctor and they said it might be. So they put me off for a month, and everything's changed.
1:21:38🔗CallerWhile I was on the pill. My husband, I feel sorry for him because I only had sex with him maybe once a week. Anyway, I was wondering if you knew any other kind of type of birth control that I can go on that wouldn't affect me like that? My doctor said that there's no other kind of pill that I can go on that would not affect me in depression. They said that the Depravera shot would make me even worse.
1:22:05🔗DrewI fully agree with that. That it tends to be the case that the progesterone is what causes the depression. So it might be a weaker progestational agent. You're going to have to experiment. It may be nothing. They all have the potential of causing depression. They also all, many, have the potential of improving depression.
1:22:27🔗DrewThat's really all you can do. And the guess would be that the lower potency progesterone, the higher potency estrogens would probably be good for you, but maybe not.
1:22:38🔗AdamYou're married though, so who cares if he knocks you up? Do you know what I'm saying?
1:22:48🔗AdamI know, but it's precisely you kind of people I want having kids, the ones who don't want to have kids. I want to wait until my husband finishes his doctoral thesis. I'm only making 85 grand a year. I'd like to get up to 100,000, and we're only living in a four-bedroom house. These are the people I give my blessing to as far as the kids.
1:23:12🔗AdamYes, it's ironic that the people who don't want to have kids... We talk to people all night who are 15, whose boyfriend is incarcerated, who are still living at home, and have no difficulty with kids. I mean, fundamentally, fine. Yeah, I got two kids. I'll have a third one.
1:23:29🔗DrewThen we can use condoms and whatnot until then.
1:23:32🔗AdamAll right. Travis is our guest tonight. We're going to take ourselves a little break. When we come back this week to Ron, who's addicted to porn, he looks at that Internet porn. Oh yeah, and we'll get to him after that. All right. Well, finally, Drew, carrying his weight around here. Drew, what do you say in the six years that I've known you, wouldn't you say that the bulk of my medical questions could be distilled down to what can I drink with? Which ones are?
1:24:46🔗DrewYeah. How can I score? What do I drink with? How much can I take with? Yeah, that kind of thing.
1:24:50🔗AdamSee, because to me, when I see that little warning label on the medicine that says, do not drink with this, that means game on.
1:25:00🔗DrewThat's why I explicitly instruct the pharmacist never to put that on the labels as fast as I can.
1:25:05🔗AdamYeah. That means it's time to supersize. But I don't know if that warning label is saying, it's screwing your liver up, in which case I don't want to drink or just you're going to pass out, in which case I do want to drink. So I always play it safe and just drink moderately. Okay. Right. Okay.
1:25:28🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. It's the only thing I got to work is the TiVo and myself really at that hour. Not in that order, by the way. Ron? Adam. Hey. Hey, 28. So you're addicted to the porn, the Internet porn?
1:25:46🔗CallerMaybe a slight stretch on your call screen. I wanted to ask if porn is addictive.
1:25:53🔗DrewYeah. In fact, there's a whole school of professionals that now deal with Internet porn specifically.
1:25:59🔗AdamI'm doing some guest lecturing at that school.
1:26:02🔗DrewYou're not lecturing, you're a case study.
1:26:23🔗CallerI was looking on the Internet and you do the search on the Internet and you always get, inevitably, you get some anti-porn sites, you know?
1:26:32🔗CallerYeah, well, I guess I was doing the wrong search. Right. And I was just wondering if they're just wackos because they're like once you get a hit, you'll need like a bigger hit, you'll never be able to stop and stuff.
1:26:42🔗DrewNo, that's that there is a syndrome of porn addiction. It's unusual to see porn addiction without first being addicted to a chemical, though, so it becomes sort of something that supports or is replacing a drug of choice. Though you can certainly become compulsive with the porn, it can start to cause you a lot of money and take time away from more productive things.
1:27:01🔗AdamYeah. Here's the, you gotta just take care of yourself and get back to business. You know what I'm saying, Ron? Yeah. There's certain kind of foreplay you can do with yourself from a masturbatorial standpoint where you spent three hours on the computer and then shoot your wad. But I'm saying shoot your wad in the first ten minutes and get back to whatever it is you were supposed to be doing.
1:27:23🔗TravisAll that staring at the screen is very possibly eyesight.
1:27:25🔗AdamI have this like, I have this bizarre, Yeah, you're blind, right? I have this bad syndrome of here's what happens. I pick up my magazine, I start having at myself. In the magazine, I read all these great provocative advertisements for movies. So here's what's been going on for, it's been 20 years. I look at it and I have an erection and I say, I got to get this movie. I got to get this movie. Then I think, wait a minute, I need this movie now. Okay, I don't need this movie. Even Next Day Delivery is not going to cut it. I need this movie like in the next five to ten minutes. I don't need it in three to four working days. So, but I swear to myself, I say, okay, okay, I'm going to finish myself off, but then I'm going to get this movie because this is going to be great. Well, then when I'm done, I'm done. I look at the magazine, I go, oh, you disgust me. Never again, never. I weep a little and I say that is it. As God is my witness, never again. Now, you fast forward about 12 to 18 hours, the magazine's open again, I see the advertisement for this movie, it's like documentary on jugs or something, and I go, oh my God, I got to get this movie.
1:28:45🔗AdamThen days turn into weeks and weeks turn into months, and months turn into years, and I never go get that movie because of that syndrome. So how do I break that? What do you do with that, Drew? Here's the point, I need to order those movies while my pants are up, but I will not do it.
1:29:03🔗DrewI don't understand how you have the time to service your bunker and deal with magazines and order more films.
1:29:14🔗AdamI can't order anything, I gotta get an assistant. That's the only answer. One time, one time I, you know the story, Drew. I actually was looking through one of my magazines and I was looking at when they do the ratings for the porn movies, they review porn movies. And there's this movie with Ron Jeremy and Minka, who's the number one Asian big boob queen. And I was reading it and looking at little pictures and I thought, oh, this is a classic. This is an instant classic. I'm gonna get this movie, I thought. And then I thought, you know what? I can't wait. I'm gonna rent this movie. I'm gonna call the video store and I'm gonna ask them if they have this movie and I'll come down there with my pans around my ankles and come get it. But the problem was, is the name of the movie was Spank Me, F Me. And that's Minka and it wasn't abbreviated. It was Spank Me, the whole word written out. So I called the place and it was a regular video place I called, you know, but with a porn section. And so, you know, the guy behind the counter, yeah, hello. And you always get real serious in medical. Yeah, I'm looking for an adult selection. This is for a mature movie starring Ron Jeremy. It's called Spank Me, F Me and I said the whole word and he was, there's like a long pause and he goes, what? No, no, you know what the thing that was weird now? Here's what happened. I didn't say the whole word. I said, spank me, F me, because I didn't want to tell the guy to F off on it. And he said, huh? And I said, spank me, F me. And he went, what? And then I said the whole thing. And he hung up on you. He paused and then he hung up on me. Now I got too much time. Just look, just beat off and get back to whatever you're doing. You can waste.
1:31:10🔗AdamYou spend a lot of free, there's a lot of pre-ejaculation time that is completely wasted because it's all to get to that place. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And if you take that over years and months, I mean, it's a lifetime.
1:31:29🔗AdamYeah, it really, really adds up. So I'm saying guys, all you guys that are addicted to stuff, just beat yourself off. Be virtually beat yourself off. You will not go down to the whore house. You will not call the massage parlor. What about all these guys that are sitting home at 2.30 in the morning, they open the newspaper, they make the phone call at 300 bucks later, some skanky chick comes over, they're loaded, they don't even remember it the next morning, they couldn't get up, just beat yourself off immediately.
1:32:16🔗AdamNo, he's really passed out. That's it. Drew, you don't want to talk to anybody else? We'll be right back. How about another beat-off story? I will be back.
1:33:53🔗AdamThank you. And please do come back when your tour brings you around this way, or any new projects, anything like that. Thanks, guys. So until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying, mahalo.
1:34:13🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.