3:04🔗VoiceoverAdam Carolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
3:09🔗VoiceoverHey, it's Loveline. How you doing out there? How you all doing? Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191, Dr. Drew, Board Certified Physician, Addiction Medicine Specialist. You know, I was just thinking, I don't know why it popped in my head, but I realized I was thinking about working out all day today. Here's really the story of my life. I used to do this in school, and now I do it as it pertains to any chore of life. I don't actually do whatever it is I'm thinking about doing. I just spend the whole day thinking about it. And I may as well just have done it at the endpoint.
3:50🔗AdamBut this isn't classic procrastination. It's not really putting it off so much as it is almost obsessing about it, or sort of lamenting it and then not doing it. But I should have done it anyway.
4:05🔗DrewThat special biological switch that you've got, that neurologic mechanism that causes something to go from the idea to the action.
4:15🔗AdamNo. But one time I did have an idea about having other ideas and I let myself go on that one. I had more ideas after that.
4:24🔗DrewI imagine if one of those ideas included masturbation. Yeah.
4:29🔗AdamI didn't miss that. But all I'm saying is at about five o'clock today, I said, yeah, I'm going to work out at about 6.30. I said, I'm going to work out. Then I said, I'm going to take a nap and then I'm going to work out. Then I said, I'm going to eat dinner, then I'm going to work out. Then I was putzing around watching Monday Night Football about 9.45. And I thought, well, the window is closing on the workout. You got to do it now. And then I didn't do it. But I really felt like I did because it took up five hours of my life anyway. Shouldn't I get some points? It reminds me of when I was in school, when the test was, when the paper was due on Monday, I'd sort of lament about it the entire weekend.
5:09🔗DrewYeah, ruin your weekend, but actually not do the work.
5:11🔗AdamRuin the weekend. Never did. Got an F and a ruined weekend. Those are the Corollas. That's what I want to teach you people how to do. A lot of you people are listening are good at that stuff and you people don't need my help. But we still have some people listening who could use a little kick in the pants. Gary?
6:04🔗DrewNo, no. How long have you been intending to go into the Army?
6:07🔗CallerI've been intending to go in the Army my whole life.
6:10🔗DrewYour whole life. So this is a lifetime idea. This is your goal, your career goal. Yeah. And you've known this girl for a month and she's being a pain in the ass. She's manipulative.
6:21🔗AdamWell, it's really since he saw his SAT scores when he saw his 450 on the SATs is when he really... that really clinched the decision for him.
6:46🔗DrewI just think that at 18, someone that cannot support your lifetime goal is not worthy of being your girlfriend, and she's only been your girlfriend for a month anyway.
6:57🔗AdamI think you're making this Army thing a little too noble, though, Drew.
7:00🔗DrewHe said he's always wanted to do it, though.
7:01🔗AdamThis is one... you know what Army... let me tell you that where Army is between. Army is between prison and junior college for high school grads. It goes, junior college... no, I'm starting at the bottom. The worst case scenario, junior college. Second worst scenario, Army, third prison.
7:22🔗DrewWell, where would you rather he be, prison?
7:29🔗DrewHe's not going to junior college. That could be, you know...
7:31🔗AdamEither way, you're just basically raping the system. We dump a bunch of money into you, you waste a bunch of ammunition, and then we have to pay for your medical and dental for the rest of your life.
7:41🔗DrewI just think it's what he wants to do. And she can't support that. What the hell? That's not a relationship.
7:55🔗CallerYeah. Basically, I was born with a bilateral cleft lip and palate, and I've had 13 surgeries. I have two more. I have a LaForte one in November, and then another nasal reconstruction thing when I'm finally done growing. And basically, I mean, I'm a pretty popular kid at school. I mean, I have a lot of friends. I have a lot of friends that are girls, and I've never, ever had sort of an intimate relationship with a girl. I mean, I've never kissed a girl or anything like that.
8:25🔗DrewDo you have much deformity or defect from the palate?
8:28🔗CallerNo, it's really not bad. I had a really, really good doctor in Atlanta, and it's really, really not bad.
8:35🔗DrewAre you wanting to blame... You know, you noticed the guy that played Marcus Aurelius' son in Gladiator? Had a club palate?
9:00🔗AdamHis brother, Joaquin, is an amazing actor. Have you seen him? He's got a little brother trotting. What's... No, he's a weird looking guy.
9:11🔗DrewBut when you're born, you're out with a big hole here. Nothing joins... This doesn't join up, it's just a giant hole.
9:17🔗AdamIs that what the... Hold on, Drew, explain what you're doing. What do you have that?
9:21🔗DrewI figured everyone else except you knows what I'm talking about. It's just that your upper lid is just open. It doesn't come together there under your nose. Sometimes even the nose can be open.
9:29🔗AdamWhat do you mean it's just open under your lip?
9:41🔗AdamI don't see Joaquin Phoenix's hole in his lip.
9:44🔗DrewHe's all sewed up like Josh is. And so what you see is a little pulling of the nostril and a lift of the sleeve of that lip. His lip's kind of sneered because he's pulled up.
9:54🔗AdamI guess so, but then there's just certain guys that have certain looks, too. It's not all something. All right.
10:01🔗DrewWould you agree, Josh? Did you see Gladiator?
10:13🔗AdamOkay. So you turned out okay. So you're blaming this on that?
10:18🔗CallerNo. I mean, it's not really that. It's just basically, I mean, I see all these girls and I mean, I've been through a lot with this with all the teasing and everything that came along with it as a kid. Kids are great. Kids are just horrible to me. Right. And it made me stronger as a person really and it made me look at basic teenage stuff and as real trivial. And because of that, I guess girls really sort of identified with me and confided in me. And basically, I always ended up, I talk to girls, I try to be outgoing and I try to build sort of an intimate relationship with them and it would always end up and then telling me their guy problems.
11:04🔗CallerOh yeah, all the time. I mean all the time. And it would end up, we would go out to dinner and they would just tell me about these guys they liked and how much jerks they are to them.
11:14🔗DrewYou know what though, maybe that's the kind of the specific girls you're choosing to go out with more than anything.
11:22🔗AdamOkay, well, yeah. Is there any new chicks around?
11:26🔗CallerNo, actually, well, I just switched schools, but basically at my old school, I mean, I went out with a bunch of different...
11:34🔗AdamAlright. I just thought of a tagging system they should have with that new blood who you haven't screwed up or embarrassed yourself in front of. You know those...
11:51🔗AdamYeah, like a dune buggy antenna-type flag or something they put on a bicycle. It's basically a fiberglass fishing pole with an orange flag on it.
12:13🔗DrewI think it's more about the kind of person he's asking out than how he's behaving. Yeah, and he's asking out the hot girls who like a-hole guys. He's not an a-hole.
12:25🔗AdamHere's the other thing too, 16-year-old girls, 17-year-old girls, Drew tell me if you agree or disagree with this. They are looking to be taken by the hand and led a little bit. And when you put a question mark behind everything, they won't buy into it. Right. Half of it is just buying into it. They almost want to feel secure. It's like this. It's like they're wandering around the wilderness and they want some guy to go, hey, I was a scout master. I got a compass up my ass. Do north is this way. Let's go. Move out. And they'll just start following the guy. But if you show up and go, I don't know. What do you think? I don't know. What do you think? They'll go, screw you. I'm going on my own. They want that. Now look, if they hate you, they ain't going. But many a guy has got many a date out of just a good, swift, strong move. You got to do it, especially at that age.
14:04🔗CallerNo, I'm still going to be living at home. It's about a 30-minute drive away.
14:08🔗DrewWell, your mom shouldn't be making those kinds of clinical decisions, so I think more importantly, you should be under supervision, under care, letting somebody make those decisions who has clinical judgment. And then whatever they think you should do, you should do.
14:19🔗CallerWell, I've been in counseling, and I have a psychiatrist and things.
15:40🔗AdamLet me tell you something at a young age, it's going to save you a lot of trouble. Your agreement, when you're green, you go, and you're, what are you talking about? Aren't too far apart? There's going to be a lot of stumbling.
16:18🔗AdamIf I'm holding a sandwich and somebody said, the President of the United States is on hold, he'll be with you in 10 seconds, and I was holding a BLT.
16:53🔗AdamI'm telling you, when I call people and the phone is ringing and I'm holding a sandwich, I will look at the sandwich, I'll hear the ringing going, I'll go, look, they're going to pick the phone up. Don't take, don't take the bite. Don't take the bite. Don't take the bite. And I shove it right in my mouth. There's no way I could... Every omelet I'd make would be a four egg omelet, one egg. For me, you get the three eggs. I'll just sit there and eat right over the flame. James?
17:18🔗CallerYeah, I'm wondering, since about July 1st, it's very hard to get an erection. My penis is like small, almost as if you get out of the water for like 50% of the day.
17:33🔗CallerI was bodyboarding around June 21st, and like the water was cold. My penis was shrugging up in the cold water, and just pinched slightly on the bodyboard. That was the only thing I can think it happened, and now it's like really hard to get an erection.
17:57🔗CallerNo, not a lot. I've ridden a bike for a while. There's like no blood flow. Like in the middle of the day, it's warm outside, and my penis head will be actually cold, which is really weird.
18:39🔗CallerThat was probably about six months prior. All right.
18:41🔗DrewWell, now it's different. Now you've got a symptom here. You really described me something. I mean, there is something going on.
18:46🔗AdamI mean, a 23-year-old guy's been without the use of his penis for, what, two, three months now, a couple of months. What do you say, beginning of July?
19:38🔗CallerAnd I used to wake up to know what morning would all the time, and now it's like.
19:41🔗DrewYeah, but that's a sign that it's a medical problem. Oh, Drew, you.
19:49🔗AdamOh, let me get some to fan it. Now that makes me laugh like a good part. Oh, that's. Yeah. All right. Well, you got to see the doctor, right, Drew? That'll let a nice one fly.
20:40🔗CallerFor some reason, when he like when he touches me like around anywhere, you know, to stimulate me, whatever. Yeah. I get to urge like to pee. Like I have to go to the bathroom.
21:55🔗DrewBut Father McConaughey in the living room, he might be able to.
21:58🔗AdamOkay. So he touches you and he stimulates you, and you feel as if you have to go to the bathroom when you're stimulated. Even if he doesn't put anything in you, just on you.
23:31🔗AdamI'll tell you, we make fun of the Mexicans sometimes on the show, but the greatest music in the world, the greatest, you cannot, you just can't beat that really, really, really, really super obnoxious squeeze boxing, you know.
23:50🔗AdamIt's the, it's that accordion going in the background with that big guitar that's just, I swear to God, I used to, I'd walk on a construction site, hung over, that'd be blaring through some, you know, drywallers radio, I'd, what, I'm going to go on a killing spree with, was it just to pick up a claw hammer, just to take out eight or nine people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. All right, we're going to take a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Derek, who's 20. He and his now dead brother are pod addicts. All right, they were molested by the dad. Well, this sounds good. All right, after this.
24:36🔗AdamHey, everybody, Love Line. I'm Adam. That's Drew over there. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. OK, let's hop to the phone. So what do you say there, Druski?
24:54🔗CallerYeah, he did. Of what? Oh, man, I don't know what to say. Me and pretty much all my brothers and sisters, there was six of us, and only one of us wasn't molested. And my brother is the one who told on my dad. And at the time, I was in the military. And this was back in February. And he called the cops, and my dad had always said, you know, if that ever happened to him, that he would kill himself before he went to prison. And...
25:31🔗AdamYour dad had always stated that if he ever got busted for molesting any of his kids?
25:36🔗CallerYeah, that he would kill himself before he went to prison.
26:30🔗AdamSo your brother told on, called the cops on your dad. And what happened?
26:36🔗CallerThe cops came to get him and my dad had a gun on him to kill himself. And he pulled it out. The cops said, you know, put it down. And the cop shot and missed him. And then the second shot hit my dad in the face and killed him.
27:08🔗CallerAnd then... He always said he would do that. And it actually came down to it. And the cop was the one who actually killed him. And my brother was having trouble with his girlfriend and everything else going on at the time. And he really just could not take any more. And he hung himself.
27:27🔗CallerWell, my dad died in February and he died in August. So that's like, what, six months?
27:32🔗AdamRight. And were you off in the military when all this went down?
27:36🔗CallerYeah, I was. I was out in California. And when I heard the news, see, the easiest way to get out of the military, of course, is to do drugs. I mean, I was out within three weeks. And I knew I had to be home. And that was the only way I could really do it. And it was the first time I ever did any drugs before.
28:02🔗AdamWell, that's good, I guess. And the rest of the brothers and sisters?
28:07🔗CallerWhen my dad died, pretty much everybody moved out. It's like the only person left is my little baby sister that's still living with my mom. Everybody else is gone.
28:16🔗AdamYeah. Your dad sounds like a pretty evil dude. Of course, he's your dad. How do you feel about his death?
28:27🔗CallerWell, when I first heard about it, I mean, all I did was scream. I stayed awake for two weeks. I was up for two weeks straight. And at the time, you know, the only thing I could find myself busy to do was to shine boots. So I shined everybody's boots in my platoon.
28:43🔗AdamHold on. Is that euphemism for masturbation? No, you actually shined everyone's boots.
28:48🔗AdamAnd so you had all this energy and rage and everything, but your dad's dead now. I mean, he sounds like just a horrible, horrible guy.
28:59🔗CallerWell, he wasn't really. That's the problem. I mean, that's not the real problem, but it just nobody saw it. Nobody knew it except for us kids. And he had always said that he'd kill himself. And yeah, well, it actually came down to it. My brother felt so bad for being the one that called. Yeah.
29:25🔗CallerI don't think I'm taking for a job molester at all.
29:26🔗AdamAll right. But you know he was. Yeah. And, you know, I know he's your dad. But, man, he molested you. And he basically just got what he got his comeuppance, really. He just did. Yeah. That's what happens.
29:41🔗DrewWhat's sad is that these things, some people believe they can treat these things. And, you know, if he'd got it.
29:47🔗CallerMy real question is, I called my brother's girlfriend today, you know, just to see how she was doing, because she was really close with the family. And, you know, I talked to her and I told her I haven't had a night of sobriety since Dustin passed away. And I was wondering, you know, if she had any opinions for me or whatever, and she told me that Dustin hadn't had a night of sobriety since dad died. So he was doing pot and everything else for six months and he couldn't take it anymore.
30:18🔗DrewWell, but maybe that's what caused him to get so profoundly depressed. These things affect your brain chemistry. And you're under so much psychological stress already. You add depletion of these different drugs, then you become suicidal.
30:29🔗CallerAnd I noticed that today, too. I mean, I was today. I was just really furious, really, really touchy. I was like, you know what? I don't know what I'm here for.
30:37🔗DrewAll right, Derek, why don't you get treatment? You've been through an incredible ordeal, enormous stresses, drug addiction, possibly tremendous loss. You got to get treatment for this. If your dad had gotten treatment earlier, maybe all this wouldn't have happened. If your brother had gotten treatment, he'd be alive. Let's not let you...
30:57🔗CallerIf anybody ever knew, he would have killed himself.
30:59🔗DrewWell, let's not... No. Let's not be... That's ridiculous. Let's not be another casualty of all this.
31:05🔗AdamYeah. You owe it... This sounds corny, but to your brother, in a way, to pull yourself together, get some treatment.
31:12🔗DrewAnd your mom, my God, how awful for her. She already lost one son.
31:15🔗AdamRight. Have a good, productive life. You got to do that. Okay. Well, listen, I'm glad the guy bought it. No problem with that. Molested everybody. Threatened to kill himself. Someone turned him in. I feel bad for the cop that had to shoot him. Yeah. But I don't know, I'd be all right with that if I was the cop. He molested five kids. Wouldn't you? Look at this kind of part of your job.
31:44🔗DrewIt's a hard call to make if you really felt that these people could be helped in some way, if this guy was not beyond help.
31:49🔗AdamNo, no, no. I'd forget about help. I don't care if this guy worked at the Salvation Army for the rest of his life. He still molested five kids and effectively...
32:12🔗CallerAnd, like, I think about it... I think, like, way more than guys and everything. And, um, I think... I was wondering, like, maybe it's because I smoke weed sometimes.
32:21🔗DrewNope. If anything, that would dampen it a little bit.
32:25🔗DrewUm, but speaking of molestation, that history probably is here, too.
32:31🔗CallerWell, that's supposedly, but I don't think so.
32:34🔗DrewWell, how did I magically know that that was supposedly there?
32:38🔗CallerWell, that's what my mom said. Well, she didn't say it, but I found her secret files. Like, she has these secret files about me. It's like, oh, she was molested or something.
32:46🔗DrewWell, you're behaving, you're behaving, Aaron, like someone who's been molested.
33:51🔗CallerIt's just, like, I started, like, when I was, like, 13.
33:56🔗AdamYeah, okay. All right. So, you're calling because you feel like you have a problem, though, right?
34:01🔗CallerI think I have a problem. Maybe there's medicine. I don't know, but it's just, like, it's weird because most people, girls, like, go for, like, 10 minutes, and I just go for an hour and I'm still on SSI.
34:11🔗AdamRight, right. Okay. Do you have a boyfriend?
34:14🔗CallerUm, like, I have, just basically, I've had a boyfriend before, but, like, after that, I said no more of that because I just got my heart broken, so I just, like, started sleeping with all these guys without, like, getting attached to them.
34:30🔗CallerLike, there's these guys that I call up and stuff, and I'll just be like, you want to, and they'll be like, okay, but we won't really talk about anything.
34:52🔗AdamOkay, hold on. Before you get eaten by a giant crab or something, you know, your vagina falls off or you end up going to juvie or something, you get pregnant again or whatever it is.
35:04🔗CallerIt's really not safe because I do it in cars and like, there's like cops. I could get caught or something.
35:10🔗AdamThat's right. That's right. Here's the point. You're acting very recklessly. And let me say this, Drew. When a woman, and this reminds me of basically teenagers that were kids that were screwed over act out later in life.
35:25🔗DrewYes. It's like their brain gets wired this way now.
35:28🔗AdamWell, they're also looking for attention in a certain way and they engage in dangerous behaviors. And guys, shut up, guys do it through mean physical stuff, oftentimes violent, dangerous, daredevil type stuff. They're jumping off of roofs and landing on car tables and stuff like that. It's all a form of, you're not paying attention to me, I may hurt myself, pay attention to me. That's a lot of it. For the female version of that is have sex with every dude. Go off dangerous places with dangerous guys, don't use protection. You know what I mean? That is like professional wrestling for 17 year old females. It's dangerous.
36:09🔗DrewYeah, it's dangerous. But that's because their brain become wired to need arousal. And the arousal is what they live off. Arousal is their heroin, as you mentioned, so sex and arousal become the way they manage their feelings.
36:20🔗AdamBut there's another aspect to it, which is the... Yeah, but the guys......see me, pay attention to me, I'm endangering myself. He listened to the way she's talking.
36:28🔗DrewI was just saying, but the guys do it, so the girls will pay attention to them.
36:32🔗AdamNo, they do it so the parents will pay attention to them. I'm telling you, I know what I'm talking about. Karen?
36:39🔗AdamOkay, so you're looking for trouble, you're definitely going to find it. You've already found most of it. How about you just slow down with this, you get a little counseling, keep your legs together for a couple of weeks.
36:52🔗DrewThere may be some medicine that can help. You asked about that. You may have some antidepressants.
36:56🔗AdamYou want to do anything with your life? You want to go to fashion school or something?
37:54🔗AdamAll right. When we come back, we'll speak to James is 21. His crush is getting married and wants to know if he should confess his love to her after this.
38:45🔗CallerWell, I just wanted to say real quick, during the commercial, I couldn't help but laughing because the local station played your favorite public service air turbulence announcement.
39:19🔗AdamWell, now wait a minute. Hold it there for a second. Can you hold it? Loud noises, I think, cause more damage to the human body than air turbulence does.
40:16🔗AdamHow many people died? You know how many people died from football this year? So far, just in training camp from the heat stroke and stuff, there's been like ten people have died.
41:10🔗AdamYes. Apparently... All right. Is there a number we should call to find out what the F seat belts are? How's that go? They really want us to follow up on that? Hey, I heard your poignant yet meaningless PSA on airplane turbulence. I heard you speak of a seat belt. What could this be?
41:28🔗DrewAnd perhaps you ought to ask the what are they called flight attendants to perhaps describe the use of these when you're on the plane and maybe they could even check to make sure you're wearing them.
41:35🔗AdamImpossible, Drew. Impossible. Next thing you know, you're going to be saying there's going to be light up placards that suggest you put your seat belt on.
41:56🔗AdamThat's number two. Okay. Thank you, James. And listen, if anybody knows anybody who's involved with this airplane turbulence PSA and they have balls enough to call this show, I would love to talk to this person and try to get some of my tax money back from them.
42:11🔗DrewAll right, James. What's up? I see what you triggered. Look at what you triggered here.
42:14🔗CallerI know. I'm sorry for sending them off on that rant there. You're a very patient man, Dr. Drew. My question for you is, I've known this girl for about four years. We both liked to have a crush on each other. Never really had a real relationship. She was dating somebody. I wasn't. I was dating somebody she wasn't. And now we've gone to schools in separate states. Well, just found out that she's getting married. And I'm not really too happy about it.
42:59🔗AdamYeah. And you never worked that one out?
43:03🔗CallerNo, not well, she would be dating somebody and it would be in a relationship and I had a, you know, was dating a girl and I literally liked her and then.
43:09🔗AdamYeah. But Drew, you know, when young people know that the two of them are into each other and they're in proximity of each other.
43:33🔗AdamAnd really, you're professing your love now?
43:35🔗CallerWell, no. I mean, we've already, we've, like I said, we've known each other for quite some time, but I'm somewhat hesitant to tell her that I really don't like the idea of her getting married to somebody else, you know, because I really would like to have a relationship with her and see if, you know what, see if it works out.
43:59🔗AdamAnd this must be a guy she's been with for a while, right?
44:03🔗CallerSomeone she dated off and on. One of those ones that she was dating when I was, you know, single, blah, blah, blah. But I don't want to be selfish and be like, hey, I really like you. And then screw up somebody else's, you know.
44:15🔗AdamI think you're spazzing a little here because she's getting off the market and you're, you know what, let me give you an analogy. Once every six months, I go into the Good Guys or the Circuit City or the Stereo Store. And I narrow it down between like three TV's that I want. And I go, well, I don't know. Ah, give me that one. And then the guy comes back and he goes, well, we have the other two, but we're out of that one. And I'm like, Christ, how are we going to get it?
44:43🔗AdamNow I need it, man. And they're like, well, if you go to, we have a store in Nicaragua. Yeah. Yeah. If you charter a plane, OK, I'm gone. You're going to have to parachute in because there's no landing strip at that. No problem. Now, it's like the fact that I can't get this one now, even though, yes, a minute ago was between that and three. You could have just spun a wheel. I wouldn't have cared. Now I found out that one is gone. I need that one. That's how guys are, by the way.
45:11🔗CallerI thought about that. Do you think? Do you think I should say anything to tell her how I feel and what I've been thinking? And this is not something that just all of a sudden came up.
45:35🔗DrewBut don't lay it on too thick, James, because we're sort of questioning... Adam's on many levels questioning the sort of clarity of your attraction. Because you're with her for two years and nothing happened, and now suddenly she's off the market, and, pal, you got to have her. There's a lot of sort of strangeness to this.
46:54🔗CallerI've got addiction to prescription pain medicine. And I'm kind of wondering what long-term effects I can look forward to.
47:03🔗DrewWell, bad addiction, that's all. Really, the interesting thing about opiates is they don't really hurt your brain in any significant way whatsoever. Except it causes the most severe form of addiction.
47:14🔗DrewAnd you really got to do something. You have to be treated. It doesn't stop by itself.
47:17🔗CallerWell, I've tried NA and that was unsuccessful. I'm wondering, is there anything to curve the addiction?
47:23🔗DrewYeah, NA. And you need to go into a program. You need to think about opiate addictions. You have to be in a very highly structured environment for a long time, like six to 12 weeks.
47:39🔗DrewYeah, well, it all triggers the same reward mechanism in the brain. And listen, that's what addiction is. If you can stop using these drugs, go ahead and stop. And if you can't, you're an addict. And then we know that it means tons of things about the biology of your brain and that this little system outside of any volitional control is operating, causing drive and actually changing your thinking, changing your behaviors. And that little mechanism doesn't have language, doesn't have logic. And you can't communicate with it, and it's operating, and that's it. It's over. Once it's game on with that part of the brain, that's it. You have the disease, and it has to be treated.
48:13🔗AdamDrew, you've never been hooked on anything, but I can tell you. I tell you, I drink my wine when I come home at night. You get some more gas?
48:55🔗AdamHey, Loveline there, kiddies. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. Let's get back to the phones and speak to, who is that? Lucy. Lucy.
49:32🔗CallerWell, I did E like really early this morning, about 4 AM, and I drank a little bit and smoked a little bit, like 12 or something, and then I was having sex with my boyfriend and right as he was finishing up, he says that the condom flipped off or I don't even know if he took it off, but he's not my boyfriend now because he left right after that.
50:05🔗DrewPeople know if they never leave kids without a law.
50:07🔗AdamLet me explain drug use to everybody. Here's where I believe people get into trouble. You got your drugs that are basically uppers and you got those that are downers, you know? The weed and the booze, that's a wind down drug, you know? The Quailudes, the painkillers and things like that. Quailudes, that stuff. And then the stuff, the Coke and the Speed and the Axe, that stuff keep you going. You see what I'm saying? That stuff you take earlier in the day. You don't take that stuff at 4 a.m. You never go to bed.
52:18🔗AdamSo when you throw up, theoretically it's been absorbed.
52:21🔗DrewOccasionally people will see the pill come back, and maybe the whole thing hasn't been absorbed, but usually it's pretty well absorbed. By the time they're vomiting.
52:28🔗AdamWould it be quicker absorption if it was in a liquid form?
52:42🔗DrewIt seems like if they were able to do that, they'd do it. Maybe they don't say in suspension... See, some people don't say in suspension well. You have to be able to... Every drop has to have the same amount in it. You know what I'm saying? It's dissolved completely.
53:20🔗My wife and I have two kids. First one is two years old. We all got brown hair and brown eyes. Second kid is eight months old, got blue eyes and light reddish hair. I wonder if there's a simple test. I know the DNA tests are complicated. If there's something simple I can do to nail it down.
53:47🔗AdamWell, you do the old watering trough test. I like how they figure out whose horse it really is in the old west. You put the kid in the middle of the living room and you both start screaming and clamping its name. Let's see where it goes.
53:59🔗DrewJohn, you must have more trouble than just this if you are suddenly suspicious just based on pigment.
54:22🔗AdamSo a lot of, I mean, Drustami, correct me, but 20% of the United States has blue eyes, but 50% of the babies have blue eyes, right? Something like that?
54:40🔗AdamSo the fact that your kid has blue eyes in eight months doesn't mean anything. I don't know about the red hair part.
54:46🔗DrewIt doesn't mean anything either. But the point is, why are you freaking out about this? And what's going on in your relationship?
54:50🔗Exactly. And I don't have a reason to. And it's killing me to... When I hold them, I, you know, ease my kid, but then I just kind of double clutch it a little.
55:01🔗AdamSure. Kick that kid out. Trouble making eight-month-old.
55:05🔗But I mean, he's so different from his brother, too. My first one was born with a full head of hair, brown hair, brown eyes, dark complexion. And the second one is light skin, no hair, faint, light reddish hair.
55:20🔗AdamI got a theory that's not going to help. I think the second one is yours and the first one is not yours.
55:46🔗AdamYeah, but the point is, you know, here these kids came out of the same place at the same time. They're two of the three litter and they don't look anything alike.
56:22🔗DrewAll I get from you, John, is you're paranoid. That's all I get. You are exquisitely paranoid. And I imagine this isn't the only area in life that you have a paranoia.
56:36🔗DrewI mean, you got a problem with being suspicious of people. And here, you know, a child's pigment, which is highly changeable in the first year of life, you're already concocting a plan about...
56:45🔗It's just that the first one was so damn on.
56:47🔗DrewHey, John, forget it. You're paranoid. And unless you have some reason to believe that your wife is screwing around, let it go.
56:57🔗AdamAnd what's up with the paranoia in general? Are you worried in life about, you know, people ripping you off or stealing your tools or doing that kind of stuff?
57:08🔗Oh, I'm always... Yeah, I guess I'm always cautious of everybody around me.
58:20🔗CallerNothing. I'm just... Right now, I'm employed at a porno store. And I'm finding it kind of hard to get sexually attracted to my... Well, not sexually attracted, just want to have sex with my girlfriend.
58:58🔗AdamOh, no. On the wall. Sorry. I was talking about the display case to your right exclusively. Nothing there? Well, then forget it. I mean, if you're going to start going to your left. Wait a minute. That would be to my right if I was facing the camera.
1:00:10🔗AdamWe have very strict consumer reports. I think Nader got on to this, which was, it's not enough just to actually fire up the vibrator. It has to be put to use.
1:00:21🔗AdamAnd usually it's a guy buying it, so there's really only one orifice it can go in. So you do put the batteries in and fire the thing up before you sell it.
1:00:30🔗AdamThat has to be one of the most humiliating aspects of any job. What did you say, Drew? Firing the thing up?
1:00:37🔗DrewYeah. Isn't it more humiliating to the person who's actually buying it? Isn't it, mightn't it be a little bit sort of masochistic, sadistic fun for the...
1:00:44🔗AdamIt is a surreal... I have done this on more than one occasion. It is a very surreal moment when you and this stranger guy who's behind the booth... And by the way, you guys always stand on these like three foot risers.
1:00:57🔗AdamSo you're always up like you're at nine feet when everyone else is at six feet. It's a weird thing, Drew. The guy's like... He's over your head. It's like the Wizard of Oz, you know.
1:01:06🔗AdamIt's the vibrator, Luke. And you're just standing in front of the counter and he fires the thing up.
1:01:11🔗DrewBut what is it about the human primate that they'd set it up that way in this setting? You know what I mean?
1:01:16🔗AdamThis is one of the only retail settings I'm aware of where the people stand on a riser that is a two or three feet above where everyone else is.
1:01:26🔗DrewThey must be trying to rise above the humiliation in the room in general and the customers in particular.
1:01:31🔗AdamThere's usually good 18 inches of semen on the ground.
1:01:34🔗DrewYeah, above that. I see. So I can stay off the floor. OK.
1:01:36🔗AdamWhat they want to do is they want to say, look, you deadbeats, no beating off in the back alley in the stump section. We got an eye on you. We can see over the alley. I mean, over the aisles and take a look back. OK, so Jimmy, you're being bombarded with this stuff. And now, like a guy who works at an ice cream store, you don't want ice cream when you get home. You've seen enough.
1:02:59🔗AdamYeah. All right. Well, look, get out of that environment. It's not, it's nothing to build a dream on. Plus that whole thing where you're testing the vibrator out for the guy who taught your PE class two years ago. Wait a minute, Drew, I got another one.
1:03:13🔗CallerNo. Always try to remember what to do if the hellen bomb explodes right then. It's a bomb, dust can cover.
1:03:24🔗AdamOh, that was bad. Oh, this is going to be a good, good night. Good night. Oh, that one was just bad, wasn't it? Oh, man, Anthony, you should be here.
1:03:44🔗AdamYeah, Drew's really reeling in pain. He's laughing the door. You're creating a swirl combustion chamber in here, Drew. You're hurting your cause. Just hold still. Let me tell you something. When I fart, it's like a bear attack. Just hold still, but play dead. Try to slow your pulse down and use less oxygen. All right, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Anthony.
1:04:57🔗CallerAnd at that time, I was working and I wasn't able to take the five days off, so I didn't. I probably should have, but didn't. And it didn't go away. I mean, it's excruciating pain. And I went back to the doctor and they prescribed me with more antibiotics. They prescribed me with another 10 day dosage of Ciproflox.
1:05:18🔗CallerAnd I took those. He told me to take the five days bed rest because it won't get better if I don't. So he gave me a doctor's note and I took it to work and took my five days bed rest and it got a little better. It didn't hurt as much as it used to because it hurt bad to where I would be doubled over in pain.
1:07:52🔗GuestNo. Honestly, I'm telling the truth. I've been trying to call for like three days now.
1:07:56🔗AdamYeah. We're getting the thumbs down from producer Ann, who's on my list now that she brought the Lysol into the studio and ruined my gas roll.
1:08:04🔗DrewWell, just zoophilia in general is often some sort of sort of attachment, usually some deprivation in the first couple of years. Did you have anything unusual about your upbringing?
1:08:16🔗GuestWell, I was molested as a child, yes.
1:08:43🔗GuestHe was a couple of years older than me, but I don't know for sure. I never really got his age. They were like big drug dealers and stuff. I don't really know.
1:08:52🔗GuestYeah. His parents were like really weird parents. Okay.
1:08:56🔗DrewAnd the other thing that goes along with this usually is some kind of abandonment in early childhood. Were you an orphan or anything like that?
1:09:34🔗DrewYeah. And Richard, this is more about the sexual abuse, it sounds like, and that's something that needs to be treated. And this may be just some of the acting out.
1:09:44🔗AdamNo, no, wait a minute, does the dog, you know how the dog penis is like a lipstick?
1:10:06🔗AdamHold on a second. This story's checking out. Yeah. I hate to say it, but it's checking out. Iron's a weird, that's not a BS answer. I could see that too, because the dog's probably makes you like a metallic. First off, dog eats nothing but meat. Yeah. You know what I mean?
1:10:41🔗DrewThey need the horse penis and the dog penis to do the same thing for them. This one's bigger. You know what I mean? They both have the retractable. Yeah.
1:11:27🔗AdamI really don't. That's fine with me. Whatever you want to do in the comfort and safety of your parents' house to your own pet, it's none of my beeswax. It really isn't.
1:11:38🔗AdamThe only thing that worries me about any of this kind of bizarre behavior for anybody is what does that mean for society?
1:11:46🔗DrewRight. What do you might do to people?
1:11:49🔗AdamIf you're capable of giving your dog a BJ, certainly you're capable of screwing with someone who's underage or doing something bad, hurting someone else's life.
1:11:58🔗GuestI pretty much keep to myself. I'm really popular at school. I just, nobody knows.
1:12:03🔗AdamNo, no. Wait a minute. Now, why would he call if nobody knows?
1:12:06🔗GuestBecause I just, I felt it was wrong and every time I do it I feel guilty, but I still get the urge.
1:12:26🔗DrewThis is another kind of a sexual compulsion. It's sexual behaviors that cause distress or could be harmful to people or animals. That's something that needs to be treated, Richard.
1:12:37🔗DrewIf he can't, then he's already messed with a 13 year old.
1:12:40🔗AdamOkay. But listen, how hard would it be for you to stop blowing your dog? On a, you know what I mean?
1:12:46🔗DrewMaybe he'll start acting out on eight year olds.
1:12:49🔗AdamEight year old dogs? Because that's like a 65 year old.
1:12:52🔗DrewI just think he needs to see something about all this. He doesn't have to tell anybody what he's doing necessarily, but oh boy. Oh, what the hell did you eat?
1:13:01🔗AdamI don't know, but there were some clams involved.
1:13:09🔗AdamBut you know what I did everybody? I took producer Anne's precious Lysol. I snatched it off the desk and threw it in the garbage, and then I let a couple of good ones sail.
1:13:28🔗AdamWe're going to take a break. I'm going to swallow some air, and we'll be back. Hey, Loveline. I'm Adam. That's Drew. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. If you just join the show, I'm having a banner ass night when lots of good gas go.
1:14:25🔗DrewOh, I wish I knew. I wish it could be stopped.
1:14:29🔗Well, the problem is, okay, I met this guy. We lived in the same building together. He lived upstairs and I lived downstairs. And that's how we met. And we were dating for a couple of months. And just recently, two weeks ago, he moved out. And ever since then, it's just been weird. Like whenever I call him on the phone, I'll probably talk to him for like 30 seconds. And I'll be like right in the middle of a conversation with him and then, or trying to start one. And then he'll be like, yeah, you know, I got to go by and like click, like hang up on me, you know.
1:15:00🔗DrewHas the guy never broken up with you before?
1:15:18🔗DrewThey're shutting you out, shutting you out, shutting you out as opposed to saying, hey, you know what, yeah, they treat you like a bill collector. Yeah.
1:15:31🔗You know what, like, I think it was because like when we lived in the same building, it was really easy to see each other. And then like lately, it had been...
1:15:40🔗AdamYes. In your mind, like, if he could have drilled a hole in his floor and stuck his penis through it, you hop up on a chair and give him a BJ through the ceiling.
1:15:50🔗DrewDo you understand that would have been all he's looking for? You understand?
1:15:55🔗Yes, but he didn't really assume that that's all he was looking for.
1:15:58🔗AdamI know. But listen, here's what happened. And we don't want to be too hard on you. But because you were having sex, you assumed you two were boyfriend and girlfriend. He assumed it was more of a service thing, a convenience thing. And now that he's moved out, he's into somebody else or once out. And in his mind, he's rationalizing. He's saying, hey, I never said I was her boyfriend. I never made any kind of commitment. I never gave her a ring.
1:16:24🔗DrewShe was just the girl who lived downstairs.
1:16:25🔗AdamThere's no reason to officially break up. We never were together.
1:16:48🔗It seems abrupt. It seems like we're having so much fun together.
1:16:50🔗AdamListen, I've had this question a hundred and fifty times over. Yeah. It's like, what the hell's up? We're having a good time? I'm not doing anything? Sex is fun? Where are you going? What's going on?
1:17:02🔗Yeah, like whenever he comes over here, which is rarely, like I'll try to go kiss him and then he'll like totally push me away. Like he'll be like, no, you know, like push me away. Then he'll come over. He's slept over here every night. He totally slept on the couch and like left me in my bed, like totally alone, didn't even want me over there.
1:17:17🔗AdamSo what's he going to have to do? Will he sock you in the stomach next time he sees you to give you the message? Yeah, well, he ain't into it.
1:17:32🔗DrewBut be more realistic about what a guy is doing in a relationship. Make it get clarity about just because a guy is having sex. Most of the time, a guy is just having sex. That doesn't mean he's having a relationship or experiencing anything other than the physical contact.
1:17:47🔗AdamWell, also, too, it's not like you're learning the customs of a new tribe or something. People react the same way you would react in a relationship. Meaning, if you go to someone's house and you don't want to sleep with them and this person goes to kiss you and you push them away, that would mean you weren't interested. And when they do it to you, it means they're not interested. You have to assume that. All right. Let's talk to Robert who's 17. Robert? Hi. What's up?
1:18:17🔗CallerOkay. I was having a one-night stand with this girl about four or five days ago. And I didn't use a condom. She was over at my house. And I guess the next, I was hanging out with her the next two days and we had gotten high together. And she told me that she was on her period. And she said she had just gotten over that same night or that day, the next day, after the night we had done it. And I was just wondering what the chances are because I don't know, I've heard different things from everybody about, you know, you can't, they can't get pregnant on their period.
1:18:52🔗DrewNo, they can't, but she had her period the next day, right? It's unlikely.
1:19:47🔗AdamWell, I had sex with my girlfriend unprotected for years. Never got her pregnant. Oh, she was on the pill. She'd had her tubes tied. She was dead. You know, when you're constructing those kinds of thoughts and sentences in your mind, how does that work? At what point do you just stop yourself? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Where's the editing? Christina?
1:20:17🔗CallerWell, I'm having some little difficult times right now. I mean, I just had a job for about two years, the same place. And then I quit because I got a better job opportunity. And I went there and then all of a sudden I got laid off a month later because some bad stuff is going on there, illegal stuff.
1:20:43🔗CallerIt was a moving company and it was kind of an underground type thing going on. I've been paid under the table and all sorts of stuff like that. And I'm like a shopaholic and I've been that way for quite some time now.
1:21:07🔗AdamYou like buying stuff or you like shop class?
1:21:22🔗CallerI had credit cards and I tried to pay them and now it's just come down to I have like no money because I've been laid off and now I'm back at my old job which pays like crap.
1:21:39🔗DrewBecause you know why? Chapter 7, I think it is, is about to sort of be undone, where you can be excused from your debts and they're going to get rid of that basically.
1:21:49🔗CallerI really don't want to do that. I mean, I live at home right now.
1:22:29🔗CallerThe only problem with getting two jobs, like I'm because I got a full time boyfriend right now. I mean, I've been with him for almost two years now.
1:23:10🔗AdamShe's living at home or dad's helping around.
1:23:12🔗DrewShe's going to be fine. Just bite the bullet. I think she's resisting, really taking the plunge. She wants to keep her car. She wants to keep shopping. Time to grow up, Christina. It's time.
1:23:22🔗AdamAll right. Drew, did you have a credit card when you were younger? Your folks gave you that credit card but told you couldn't use it for anything?
1:23:32🔗AdamBut it's good to have, like, if you need to rent a car.
1:23:34🔗DrewI was across the country and stuff. Yeah.
1:23:36🔗AdamYeah. I had, I think I got my first credit card when I was, like, 26. And it was one of those secured ones, where you give them 500 and then they let you use 300 of your money. It's really retarded. And then they're worried, you know, about you paying them back, you get these notices. It's like, listen, give me a worst-case scenario here, a bank of Hoven. It was worst-case scenario. I gave you 500 bucks, right? I've just spent 310 bucks. You're holding 500 of my money. Let's just say I stopped making my payments. How bad, how bad could this go for you? You know what I mean? You got the 500 there. It's always funny, too. You give them, you know, you have to give them 500, but they don't give you the whole 500 credit. You know, they save a little, little something for wear and tear. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Then you get that credit card debt going. And what they don't really tell you is they give you that minimum payment. You make that minimum payment for the rest of your life. I made that minimum payment thing.
1:24:37🔗AdamYou pay like $39 a month. The principal is like $4,000. You pay $39 a month. Three years goes by. Principal, same amount. Didn't pay anything off. Horrible, horrible life. Thank God. I'm literally a millionaire right now. Literally, literally. And Drew.
1:25:12🔗AdamAnd, you know, for those of you who think the flapping is just some sort of ritual that guys go through or some sort of theatrics, it's not. It works. Right, Drew? Doesn't it? Devin? Yes. I just nailed Drew. Drew loves it. Just killed him. He does like it. The door is closed. He likes it in his own way. In his own way.
1:26:00🔗AdamI'm going to save it during the break and then I'll just save it for when we come back to the studio. All right. You were molested by your older brother?
1:27:13🔗CallerAnd he's in prison for life now. He was accused of sexually molesting a three-year-old little girl. But I sat through his trial. I don't think that he actually did it. But he also molested me and my two, my oldest sister and my youngest sister.
1:27:36🔗CallerWell, no. I sat through the trial, but he was in, and it was really ludicrous. I really do. I believe it was. Anyway.
1:27:44🔗AdamRight. But the other thing that's interesting about this is he molested you for eight years. Right. He molested your two little sisters for a number of years, but he was accused of molesting a two-year-old. You just don't think he could have done it?
1:27:57🔗CallerWell, he had kids, and he never messed with his kids. Anyway, my question goes back.
1:28:04🔗AdamI'd say it's just a lot easier to believe that a guy molested his sisters and his brother could have molested somebody. Well, my question goes back. Is he in jail for life for doing this?
1:28:15🔗CallerYes, he's in jail for life without parole in Texas.
1:28:54🔗CallerAnd we broke up. It was a really nasty breakup. I mean, I was really popular in school. He was a football player. And, you know, things just really went wrong. People started finding out about us, you know. And we broke up. Now I'm 26. I've moved to Oklahoma. I was in Texas then. And I've not really had any substantial relationships since then. And just here lately, I've, you know, started seeing girls in a different way. And I'm just wondering if my mom tells me that I taught her how I was. I taught her that I was gay, you know. Right. And she thinks that I think I'm gay because I was molested by my brother.
1:29:33🔗DrewWell, however it happens, it's done. It's pretty much done. You understand? It's not something that can be undone, even though the inciting influence, whether it's something you're born with, and there's good evidence that there's some biological predisposition for certain kinds of homosexuality, or whether it's because you're sexually abused, once your brain's sort of wired that way, that's the way it's set up. It's really not thought that it can be undone.
1:29:57🔗CallerBut I, I feel like I'm gay, you know, but...
1:30:01🔗AdamRight. We're with you on the gay part. Alright, so here's the deal. Whether this happened because of your brother, or whether this happened because God wanted you to be gay, you're born with it. Either way, you're gay. Right. So, let's not fight it. We'll find a guy and enjoy a gay lifestyle.
1:30:23🔗CallerBut I've had a really traumatic, you know, life. I mean...
1:30:26🔗AdamOh, I understand. But, okay, so listen, here's what you need to do, Devon. You sound like a good guy, and you've had a lot of bad things happen to you. Here's your plan. You've got to get some counseling for all this molestation and the horrible family life.
1:30:51🔗DrewAll right, Devon, so get with the program. Get a sponsor, start going to meetings, work the steps. There's a lot to be done here. But don't worry about your sexual orientation.
1:30:59🔗AdamHere it is. You work on your sobriety from drugs or booze or whatever, and you work on the counseling from the horrific past that you've had. And as far as whether you're gay or not, that'll all come into picture. I mean, it'll come into focus as these other things clear up.
1:31:16🔗DrewYou'll find there are a lot of people in the program that have history of sexual abuse.
1:31:55🔗AdamYou had to blow the program director's name is Trip Reeb.
1:31:58🔗DrewTotal accident for me. Really? Yeah, total accident. And I didn't really embrace it until about four years ago. Started looking more seriously at doing more media.
1:33:20🔗CallerUh-huh. And my boyfriend was born with some sort of abnormally, I don't know what it is, but his penis is like a, it's not bluish, it's like a grayish brownish color almost.
1:33:40🔗CallerThe doctor said he was born with it and he had to worry about it.
1:33:42🔗DrewI feel like I'm seeing a firing squad waiting for the bulls to arrive.
1:33:47🔗CallerBut ever since we started having sex, I've been getting some sort of weird rash and a weird discharge. It's like a pinkish yellow color.
1:33:56🔗DrewWell, why don't you get that checked out? That has nothing to do with the color of his penis.
1:33:59🔗AdamRight. Don't focus on the color of his penis. Focus on your discharge. And that's just from having sex. You got to get a pelvic exam if you're sexually active. We're going to take a little break. Well, there you go. Boy, that show, I'll tell you, the gas just made a fly for me, Drew. Blue by, blue by. Dream show for me. Dream show. Good work, buddy.
1:35:03🔗CallerThis has been Loveline. The opinions expressed on this show are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors, or this station. The producer for Loveline is Ann Wilkins Dingle. Loveline is a presentation of Westwood One Entertainment.