1:01🔗VoiceoverListener discretion is advised. Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Loveline, Coast to Coast.
1:14🔗VoiceoverHey, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. That's my friend, partner, and sometimes a lover. Dr. Drew over there. Not lately. No, no, no. He's been on his period. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-191. Dr. Drew, board certified physician, addiction medicine specialist. And tonight we will take a whole s-load of phone calls. Tenille?
1:42🔗CallerWell, I took the morning after pill yesterday. I took the first cycle at 10 a.m. and the second cycle at 10 p.m. And then this evening around 6 o'clock, I started having this really horrible pain above my left hip. And then all of a sudden, I started having really severe cramping. I'm not bleeding or anything, but it's worse than any pain that I've ever had with menstrual cramps.
2:19🔗CallerNo, no problems at all. And I had, I used to have really severe cramping between the time that I had my first child and my second child. And I had my second child eight months ago.
2:52🔗CallerI take a medication called Tegretol. It's an anticonvulsant. And typically they put me on really high levels of birth control pills. And even then it's not guaranteed by any large percentage to work because the Tegretol counteracts the birth control pill.
3:08🔗AdamSo does the morning after pill work with the Tegretol?
3:13🔗AdamWhy would it work if the birth control is not working?
3:16🔗DrewWell, again, birth control pill is supposed to be close to 100% effective. Probably knocking down to around 95% with the Tegretol.
3:23🔗CallerAnd I had preeclampsia this last time. I was in the hospital for three weeks and almost died with my second child. She was nine weeks early and was in NICU for five weeks. So I'm really concerned about having another baby.
3:34🔗DrewSure. I just think you're going to have a little mid-cycle bleeding here and that's probably what the cramping is all about. I wouldn't worry about it.
3:39🔗CallerYou think it could just, so I shouldn't be worried about going to the doctor?
3:42🔗DrewWell, the one thing, I guess if you get bleeding, God, it's kind of a tricky question because the one thing this could be is an ectopic pregnancy, and the morning after pill wouldn't really do anything to affect or change or prevent an ectopic pregnancy.
3:58🔗AdamYeah, but that's when the baby gets lodged in the tube or something.
4:31🔗AdamNot just a part, one part from an old person that needed constant upkeep. Because, you know what I mean? It's like you have a very, you know, the female body, not that much different than the male body. Everything's fine. And then there's that one part, constant attention. It'd be like you having, like the elbow and hand of an 85 year old person.
4:56🔗DrewGive yourself an 80 year old's prostate. Now you're, it's game on. They always say you don't want a female genital tract before the age of 15. You don't want a male's after 50.
5:16🔗My husband's on the line too. Or like, we've been like separated for a while, like probably four months already. And, um, we've been like, we're having like problems and like, they're just kind of getting, I guess, worse.
6:10🔗CallerOh, I was just talking to another guy and that was it. And she thwarted me up and down. She wasn't, but she was. And what else am I supposed to, I mean, I questioned everything else.
7:04🔗DrewYeah, why don't you behave like you love him?
7:06🔗CallerIt wasn't like that, like it wasn't, it was just me and my friend called one day, it was like nothing though, I wasn't looking for anyone or anything like that.
7:14🔗AdamOh, okay, but with your dicey past and Alex and his dicey past and all the trouble you guys have had, don't you think you should just stay away from things like that in general?
7:24🔗CallerYeah, yeah, I mean I totally regret it, you know, I really do, but I don't think he would forgive me for that.
7:32🔗AdamOkay, well, let's forgive her, Alex, because it didn't really amount to anything, and as guys we all know the proof is in the pudding, I mean it's the bottom line.
7:40🔗CallerThat's true, but what about like, she's lied about that, what does...
7:43🔗DrewNo, you're not, you're just, you know what she has?
7:47🔗CallerNo, he thinks I do, but it's not even like that.
7:50🔗CallerYou know what, because look at, check it out.
7:51🔗CallerBecause I go out with my friends, he thinks I'm doing something and it's...
7:54🔗CallerUntil one o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning?
7:56🔗CallerOh my God, but I haven't seen my friend.
7:57🔗AdamAll right, hold on one second, hold on, hold on. I'm going to put them both on hold for one second. Please listen, everyone, and understand why you do not get married at 19 or 20.
8:19🔗AdamWith yourself in the future on the phone or just... No, I see. Okay, I was confused for one second there. Alex, Jessica? Yeah. Okay, let's just calm down for a second. Are there any children here? No. Okay, good.
8:38🔗AdamYour plan is not to have any children for a little while, right? Until you guys get good with your relationship. Yeah. And then start working at the relationship just like it was anything else you wanted to be good at.
8:54🔗DrewJessica, is Alex available in the way that you sort of need a husband to be available?
9:15🔗CallerAnd it's just, I mean, I'm really getting tired of it, you know, and I mean, I do understand because I don't have a job, you know, I understand that, but I don't want, you know, to just, I don't know, like, to get back together and things still be the same. I don't want that. I want things to change.
9:42🔗DrewMaybe, maybe you guys honestly ought to look at each other and say, maybe we're not up for a relationship now. We may not just be up for it. I mean, because, well, maybe, because both of you seem sort of okay with the fact that you don't want to be the way you were and yet you don't know how to get from where you are to where you need to be and that may just be 10 years of maturity. It may just be living for a little while to get you guys to figure out how to be available, how to be a separate person in a relationship.
10:04🔗AdamWhy don't you give them some ground rules and a book to read and we'll move on. Have you got anything? I mean, look, you two are both a pain in the ass. You both have energy, right? And when you two get together, you got two pains in the ass under the same roof and there's going to be trouble. And both of you are going to have to work real hard on yourselves. Right now, you're both working on each other and each other doesn't really like each one of you working on them. You just work on yourself. Alex, you be a better husband. Jessica, you be a better wife.
11:00🔗CallerWell, I mean, I've checked out a couple of websites about like a penis enlargement pump. And I know how it works, but I was just kind of wondering. They don't say anything about maybe the long term effect. If there's something negative, that could be a long term effect.
11:18🔗CallerWell, I mean, I think it's OK, but, you know, I'd kind of like to have something like, you know, Peter North had slapping around, you know.
13:22🔗AdamAll right. So don't focus on that. Figure out whatever it is you like to do, and do it, and meet people that way. I know it sounds trite, but that's about your only shot.
13:31🔗CallerI do have another question that's a little more intelligent.
13:33🔗CallerI was kind of wondering about what age are you most prone to be socialized sexually, in which, because I watched pornography maybe when I was about 11 and 12 years old, and I saw some things I would rather have never seen.
13:49🔗CallerWell, I mean anal sex performed. I don't want to ever disrespect a girl by doing that, but someone that I really care about, I wouldn't want to ask her to do that, and I am somewhat attracted to it, and I was just kind of wondering.
14:09🔗AdamAll right, listen. Keri, stop thinking so much. Just go out and live your life. Join a gym and go rollerblading, go to the park, go hang out at a Starbucks. Stop creeping everyone out and thinking everyone. I don't know what it is with young guys, but the more thinking you do, the less of a poon tang you'll get. There's a direct correlation there. And he's just thinking himself into a corner.
14:38🔗DrewHe's got a little creepy vibe about him.
14:40🔗AdamOh, yes. And let me tell you, boys, women pick up on that creep vibe.
14:45🔗DrewWell, it's kind of desperation mixed with in this lack of experience.
14:52🔗AdamMixed with, I'm going to duct tape your mouth and throw you in the trunk of my car and take you out to the woods and dismember you.
14:58🔗DrewYeah, the business of that, I would never want to soil a lady yet. I kind of find it very appealing.
15:13🔗AdamThe thing about women I found is they don't smell the BS gene that much. I mean, they don't smell BS on a guy.
15:19🔗DrewNo, in fact, they kind of attracted to BS.
15:22🔗AdamYes. Ladies, you like BS. You'll never admit it because you don't know when a guy's BSing. We know the BS guys, a lot of attitude, hair all. Any guy who screws with his hair too much or wears too much jewelry.
15:37🔗DrewAny guy that can pull off the romantic piece too smoothly.
16:42🔗CallerWell, all she had was a vibrator. Anyway, so she went and got it, and afterwards, the last, I would say, two weeks, I've kind of been like, itchy there. Where?
16:57🔗AdamOkay. Well, wait a minute. Hold on. Did she have the strap-on, or was it just-
18:50🔗DrewHowever, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute. The traditional sort of classical venereal diseases. However, hepatitis C and HIV require very special cleansing solutions like glutaraldehyde where they stay on there.
19:06🔗AdamThey're not going to stay there and stay alive. Please, for how long?
19:10🔗DrewListen, like when people use those endoscopes and things, they have to be very specially cleaned even though they're going to be used for a week later.
19:16🔗AdamThey overdo it. But if this thing's dry and it's sitting in a closet and a hamper up in some shelf somewhere, it's not going to have that.
19:23🔗DrewBut the point is, I think you've got some called pruritus anii and it's probably just a hemorrhoid, that kind of thing, and it's just irritation. You get some anusol cream over the counter and that's that.
20:05🔗CallerMe and my friends pulled a prank on this guy, one of our friends. We put an orthotrysolic and cyclin pill in his drink and we haven't talked to him in like a week, so we don't know if he's okay or not.
20:17🔗DrewJust think, is there a female on Earth that pulls this kind of JO stuff on their friends?
21:28🔗AdamAll right, dry your pants. Get in your underpants. I'll look at you in an hour. Lizzie? You're 22. What's up?
21:37🔗CallerYeah. I was raped like, I guess, like month, end of March. And I really haven't had any response to it. I haven't reacted to it. I'm not traumatized by it. Like I went like two days after it happened. My parents kind of, my mom took me to like this spa in Arizona. I was there. Like she left. I was there by myself. Like she came and visited me sometimes. But like for like a couple of weeks, then my dad has, he does business in New York and he's got a condo there. Like I was there and like my aunt took me shopping.
22:14🔗AdamAll right. Well, hold on. I don't want to go through your entire day planner, but hold on. We get the picture. Everything you didn't, you didn't just went on with it. You didn't freak out. Right.
22:24🔗CallerBut so like I've been back in my regular routine now for like only like two weeks.
22:38🔗CallerAnd it was like, he pulled me into a parking garage that was under construction, happened to be part of the hospital and security guard found me unconscious.
22:47🔗AdamReally? They, did they whack you in the head or something?
22:50🔗CallerI, when he threw me down my head, must have, cause I had to get stitches in my head and like.
22:57🔗CallerParts of it. I remember him repping, he had his hand, I think, I don't know if it was cause of my head or I blacked out cause he had his hand like right at my neck to hold me down, like he was, I was flat on my back and he like was bracing himself like right at my neck with one hand.
23:15🔗DrewHow long before you went unconscious after he attacked you?
23:19🔗CallerOh god, I don't know. I think I remember him penetrating me.
23:23🔗DrewNo, wait a minute, he attacked you and then quickly you were unconscious or did you admit?
23:27🔗CallerI was jogging, he grabbed me hand over my face and pulled me in, and that's all blurry and then I remember hitting the ground.
23:37🔗DrewSo within a few seconds you were unconscious?
23:42🔗CallerFrom where I was running and where I was found, it's not, I mean they weren't like close. He had dragged me through like-
23:49🔗DrewAll right, hang on a second. I would think just that assault would be so traumatizing as to give you a post-traumatic stress reaction. Okay. Now the only way that I know that people, there's two ways that people sort of go on with things when traumatic, highly arousing, traumatizing experiences aren't sort of processed as something special is one, you're used to being traumatized.
24:22🔗AdamAll right. Well, you gotta get some help before it comes out and catches you off guard.
24:27🔗CallerMy parents' attitude about this whole thing is, I think, like, you're okay.
24:32🔗DrewWell, that's how they want to believe it is.
24:34🔗CallerAnd, like, it's the same thing with my friends. Like, my mom had specifically said to me, like, oh, if, you know, they ask you how you're doing, like, just say you're fine. Because I had to, I was supposed to graduate in May at the beginning of this month.
24:51🔗CallerNorthwestern. And I am not graduating because it happened over my spring break and I didn't go back for the last trimester. So I'm not graduating. So is there something to be explained, which I don't know what my parents told me.
25:09🔗DrewYou need to get yourself a therapist. Relax. You're okay. You're normal. Thank God you come into this with an intact sort of psyche and you will get through this. But you need the opportunity to get through it. And everybody else doesn't want to feel the pain of acknowledging what you've been through. And that's fine. That's them. But you need an opportunity to have the feelings.
25:31🔗CallerI, yeah, my parents, like, I don't, how do I find or get into therapy without, not without telling my parents, but, like, kind of do the preliminary work.
25:40🔗DrewYeah, but Northwestern has an elaborate student health system. Why don't you take advantage of that?
25:43🔗CallerI haven't been, like, back there. I don't know.
25:45🔗DrewWell, you're in Chicago now still, right?
25:47🔗CallerWell, yeah, I'm north of Chicago, yeah.
25:51🔗DrewGet back in and get involved regularly with some treatment. I'm sure there are rape support groups, too. Get a group experience and an individual experience. It would be very, very helpful.
26:01🔗DrewSorry, I'm sorry I just went through that. That's the real McCoy.
26:05🔗AdamYeah, that's what I was saying. I mean, you can be one of the few people in your rape support group who is bonafide, raped, I mean, you know, jogging. Why is it everyone who was not raped by their boyfriend or that sort of date rape thing?
26:24🔗DrewIn Central Park or along the Lake of Chicago.
26:26🔗AdamYes. If I have a daughter, I will forbid her from jogging. I would tell her she can walk or she can sprint. Apparently, if you're walking, you cannot be raped. And if you're at a full blown sprint, you can't be raped. It's the jogging that attracts the rapist.
26:46🔗AdamThank you. We'll be back. Loveline, everybody. That's the radio show. There's Drew. I'm Adam. Phone number 1-800-LOVE-E-191. And let's get back to phones and speak to Ryan. Hello. Hey, Ryan, you're 14. What's up?
27:07🔗DrewHey, Brian, wait a second. You know, when Rob was last year, last time, he said something that was rather striking. He said that he read our relationships book. It was the best book he'd ever read on relationships. Remember that?
27:19🔗AdamNo. No, now that you say it, it sounds sort of familiar. But no, I would never remember a compliment like that. I only remember bad things people say to me.
27:28🔗DrewYeah, of course. All right, Ryan, go ahead.
28:57🔗CallerI'm pretty small. It's a private school.
28:59🔗DrewYeah. I see. See, I think there's a lot of mixing and matching in those little populations that stay together for many, many years. I think he could just ask her out.
29:20🔗DrewIt's like, Ryan, I hate to say this, but at that stage of my life, it's like I didn't have... It's like I was a car trying to run without an engine. You know what I mean? I just didn't have anything going on that I could...
29:49🔗AdamI know it'll... Well, let's not go overboard. I'm literally a millionaire, as you know, Drew. Ryan? Yeah? I'm going to try something on you, and I hope it works. And if not for you, some other youngster listening. I give this speech about every three years. I think it's high time I give it again. All right. I'm giving you oral sex starting now. Ready? Go. Now, and Drew, I, I, Drew, you're a doctor. You're considered a genius by most, except for me, who really knows you. I want you to chime in if you find any fault.
30:34🔗AdamAnd I will not yell. All the things that you do in the eighth grade, the ninth grade, even all the way through high school socially do not amount to a hill of beans outside of high school. Now, if you kill somebody, if you get somebody pregnant, if you rape somebody, if you do something horrible to someone or let someone do something horrible to you. Yes, that counts. But all of the jockeying, all of the asking out, all of I think she likes me, but I'm too scared to say anything. It registers as a zero in your adult life, a zero.
31:12🔗DrewEven though it is so powerful to you now, when you were able to step back and look at it, you'll think, did I waste time and energy? And why?
31:20🔗AdamIt is like you seeing a giant inflatable wonder dog in a Macy's parade and being scared assless of it at age three years old and then realizing it's just a bunch of fabric and air and some helium. Okay? Ryan, if you ask her out or don't ask her out or half ask her out, it will not make a difference in the next few months, few years or the rest of your life.
31:52🔗AdamHowever, if you spend too much of your life not asking people out, then you'll just be a pathetic male adult living in a one bedroom apartment using one of those plug-in stoves, one of those hot plates, heating cans of beans still in the can, George Foreman's grill, and eating it right out of it with a spork that you got from IHOP. But so you ask her out tomorrow, do you hear me?
32:24🔗AdamAll right, I'm yelling at Ryan. You ask her out on a date tomorrow. And you will thank us. And you know what? I'm going to take it a step further. If you ask her out on a date tomorrow and she says no, you'll still be better off than where you are today.
32:42🔗DrewYes. If she says absolutely not, you'll gain the skill.
32:44🔗AdamThat's right. If she says absolutely not, I wouldn't do it in a million years, you will still be better off than you are today.
32:51🔗DrewAnd those are the two important, three important things, really. The goals of you, A, to build some esteem, two, build some skill, social skills, and three, try to enjoy adolescence as much as it's humanly possible, which is not very much.
33:04🔗AdamDid I forget the part about drinking the sixer of Mickey's Big Mouth?
33:18🔗CallerI got a problem. I'm manic depressive. I've got OCD and ADD. And my deal is, well, for the past six years now, I hold in my poop. I don't go to the bathroom. And I do it deliberately. And I've talked to my doctors about it.
34:10🔗CallerThat's what they ask me. I just say it's like a feeling almost. But I don't know why I do it. No one knows why.
34:16🔗DrewWell, it goes with, you know, that kind of thing goes along with OCD, right?
34:19🔗AdamHang on a second, Brad. Ryan, young Ryan, I hope you're still listening. This is what happens when you don't ask girls out in junior high. You become the 38 year old OCD guy who holds his own duke in. Now, you crap like once a week?
34:39🔗AdamAnd Drew, what can it do to you medically not to do this? Not to move those bounds on a regular basis. You always say that and I hate that because the only thing I do well medically is crap.
35:01🔗AdamNo, I know you crap every three days and you have a jealous, vengeful ass. Rectum. Thank you. Brad? Yeah? Will your doctors have you on any medication?
35:18🔗CallerBut I don't know. I mean, I... You know, when I have to go, I'll purposely sit in a chair and suck it up and hold it in and I'll go in my pants sometimes and...
35:30🔗AdamWell, you're very stubborn, aren't you? Are you able to work?
35:54🔗DrewYeah. There are people that retain stool. The kids do this.
35:58🔗AdamI mean, isn't this a weird adolescent-type behavior?
36:01🔗DrewThis is a... Aside from being masochistic, it's sort of a developmental arrest symptom.
36:05🔗AdamAnything happen to you when you were little?
36:09🔗CallerI had... I was... I wasn't raped or anything, but I had a sexual encounter with a 16-year-old when I was 13. He made me, you know, I can blow jobs and stuff like that.
36:29🔗AdamAll right. So, hey, Brad. Yeah. You're 38. You're not even 40 yet. How about, you know, seeing about salvaging your life? I mean, you take your medication, you know, you realize this bowel movement thing is a strange thing. How about just taking a dump when you got to take one? I mean, I know then you wouldn't. I don't want to. I know you don't want to, but I don't want to do anything. I still do something. I mean, I know I can't talk crazy people out of being crazy, but Brad, you know you're a little crazy, right? And one of the things that makes you crazy is you take a crap once a week. How about engaging in some behaviors that sane people might partake in, like crapping?
37:15🔗DrewIt's kind of like an eating disorder, you know, that you do get something out of this, albeit dysfunctional, and it's a natural function. It's something that needs structure to it, and it really requires you letting go of that control and going ahead and having whatever feelings you're containing by going through this or whatever sorts of arousal benefits you're getting out of it, and just going at the same time every day, sitting down and letting go and being much more structured with it so you don't get in that sort of cycle of preoccupation and obsession.
37:44🔗AdamHold on. I'm going to change Brad's life. Brad? Yeah? Why don't you get yourself one of those toilet seats that squirts in the ass like I got? You'll be begging to Duke.
38:11🔗DrewYou've got to be structured with a toilet.
38:12🔗AdamOkay. Listen. Here's your tall order. Take a crap. How tall a order is that? Just do it, would you? I know you're nuts, but do it. Then you won't be nuts because you'll be acting sane. That's my new thing now.
38:25🔗DrewYou're going to give that lecture again tonight?
38:26🔗AdamI don't care how nuts all of you are. Just act sane and you will not be nuts. You can be nuts inside, but you will not be nuts on the outside. We'll never know.
38:37🔗DrewYou'll never know and that's what's important.
38:38🔗AdamThat's the important thing. All right, Drew, number two?
39:23🔗CallerYeah, I just like to let him know that if he's still listening that he should like get some help with it because I had problems with it and I went to the doctor and, you know, they had to start using enemas and getting you to drink mineral oil because, I mean, if you hold it in for a long time and then you go and it hurts really bad and it stretches out your O-ring.
39:47🔗AdamWho produces that? Is that Morton Thiokol? And how long did you go when you're, give me your best, like, how many days did you put together without a number two?
40:03🔗DrewHere's what I've seen, is people that abuse laxatives eventually can't go without the laxative and the bowel doesn't move normally and they can fill up so they haven't gone for days and days and days, maybe weeks sometimes. The whole thing becomes, I've even had some, I had a patient out of the colon removed.
40:21🔗AdamBad times, but you say, and you've said this before, no healthier to go three times a day than someone who goes once every other day. No different.
40:34🔗DrewI mean, there's no syndrome associated with that, no, other than discomfort from the bowel filling up. It's purely a sort of mechanical issue.
40:57🔗DrewI mean, that is their soul and their spiritual and their emotional worlds need to be examined, not their colons.
41:03🔗AdamYeah, that has nothing to do with plaque building up on your insides or anything.
41:07🔗DrewThat is what I find so bizarre. We do colonoscopies, where you look through people's colons with a scope, and before that, you make them squeaky clean, because you have to be able to see every inch of the surface of their colon. You clean them out. They are not happy, healthy people. They are depleted, because they have had diarrhea for two days, and they have nothing in there.
41:25🔗AdamBut, dude, what about all those toxins that build up inside your colon? No? Just nonsense.
41:31🔗DrewIn fact, when Jerry from Survivor was up here, during one of the breaks, she goes, I have never been so cleansed of toxins. She was malnourished. She would have massive edema when she refed herself.
41:44🔗DrewWhat is these toxins? What are these things? Just describe. I just want somebody to tell me one of them. What is the structure of one toxin?
41:51🔗AdamPlease. You could have a nice bone-chilling talk with my screwball mom about the toxins building up in the blood system. Hey, I remember my mom used to talk about giving blood and getting lead out of your blood system by replacing. But hey, it makes sense. If you say, okay, you carry around seven pints of blood in you and you're living in a society where you're taking lead in via airborne particles or water or drinking, eating utensils or something, then you give some of that blood and you make new blood. You're not using the old blood. How much blood do you waste anyway if you're not bleeding?
43:11🔗DrewNo, no, but I just want to pay homage to our good friendship and the fact that I wouldn't dream of disturbing you with a gift. It's uncomfortable.
43:19🔗AdamWell, my family has joined you in your quest, by the way, and gets squat from any of those losers. Go ahead, man.
43:27🔗CallerAll right. Well, I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller, and I love you guys show, and man show rocks.
43:35🔗CallerAnd okay. Well, my question is, I have one big question, one little question, but the big question is, I found out, I guess fairly recently that, well, my parents have been divorced for about three years, separated for four, that the girl or the woman, my dad cheated on my mom with, and which basically broke up the marriage. He got married too without telling me. And he had dropped a couple like hints to me, or like stuff like that, like he wanted me to know, because like I'd be like talking to him, because I talked to him on a regular basis. He is like, well, with my sister, and he has two kids from a previous marriage. I'm like basically the only one that calls him on a regular basis, and you know, that he has a good relationship with. And he'd say like, yeah, I'll drop by with the check later. But my wife's kind of sick. I got to go.
44:34🔗CallerI really love my dad. And the thing I think the reason that I have a good relationship with him is because I don't really expect a lot out of him, because I know my dad's like not the world's greatest dad.
44:47🔗DrewYeah, I mean, there's something to that, being realistic about who he is, which is a jerk. All right.
45:13🔗DrewYeah. If you just want some information, you just want an explanation, you're going to get a lot of BS probably.
45:17🔗CallerThat's why I haven't really asked it. And another thing is that one thing my dad hasn't told me is that, well, I'm 16, my sister's 14, but in between like around 85, he got that woman pregnant and had a kid.
46:33🔗CallerI was recently, like just a few months ago, put in two psycho hospitals for like the first time was the time to suicide and the second time was like because I didn't want to take my medication.
46:48🔗CallerYeah. And I like a month and a half ago, I stopped taking the medicine. My parents don't know. And like I'm starting to feel like, you know, the old thing is I'm starting to cut myself again and...
47:01🔗DrewWhy don't you go ahead and get back on the medicine?
47:03🔗CallerBecause I don't like the fact that I have to take the medication to be normal.
47:07🔗DrewWell, you know, people don't like having any kind of illness. It's unfortunate when you have to deal with that. And people your age that are diabetics don't like having to take insulin to stay alive. And very often they don't take their insulin. They have all kinds of awful consequences. But the fact is you have this imbalance. You got to take medicine. If you don't, you suffer. Why don't you take the medicine?
47:28🔗CallerBecause I know even if I tell my parents that I'm not taking it, they're going to make me go on it, but they're going to put me in a psycho hospital again.
47:36🔗DrewYeah, so why don't you go ahead and just take it on your own?
47:40🔗CallerAnd it's going to take another four to six weeks or whatever.
47:42🔗DrewNot necessarily. Sometimes you're going to kick them pretty quick.
47:45🔗CallerYeah, I don't know. The first time it took over two months.
49:00🔗DrewOkay. You can prevent that from happening. Swelling could be just a vaginitis. It could be just some irritation. Could be herpes. Could be other sexually transmitted diseases. But you are not going to find out what the heck that is unless you go ahead and take a look.
49:55🔗CallerBut yeah, my ex-boyfriend is in prison. It's not really prison. It's like kiddie prison, you know, with doobie things. But he wrote me a letter a while ago and like a few weeks ago. And I'm really scared. I don't know if I should write him back or not.
50:11🔗CallerIt said he was sorry for everything he did to me because I went out with him when I was fourteen and he was really abusive and everything like he used to hit me and stuff like that.
50:19🔗DrewOK, that's not going to change. Not without long, long periods of treatment.
50:24🔗AdamWell, what if he got a tattoo of Christ while he was in the pen?
50:33🔗DrewWhy would you go back in with a guy that was abusive like that?
50:36🔗CallerI don't want to get back with him or anything like that. I don't know, he really wanted me to write him back in the letter. It says, Please, please write me back in the letter.
50:42🔗DrewYou're going to get sucked right on in, aren't you?
50:44🔗CallerThat's what I'm scared of. I don't want to end up being with him again or anything like that.
50:53🔗CallerI think I said two years. I don't know what it's for though. He didn't say.
50:57🔗DrewSo many things that people do that just happen start right here. You know what I mean? You shouldn't be going out for the coffee. You shouldn't be responding to the letters. You shouldn't be alone in the bedroom together, you know what I'm saying? It's a series of bad choices. She can make a good one right here, right now.
51:16🔗AdamWell, I was thinking that too, which basically the way I was looking at it, I think this is probably restating what you were saying, which is at this point, all you have to do is not return the guy's letter and you're done. This is tantamount to breaking it off with someone after one date as opposed to being with them for a month and a half.
51:40🔗AdamSo just don't return this one and don't even write in one of those letters that says, I'm sorry, I know what you're going through, we can't be what we were.
52:01🔗DrewStop it. Seriously. You're going to talk yourself into that letter.
52:05🔗AdamYou're going to take a step, a big step forward if you return that letter, and it's going to be a real slippery slope, and you may just slide down the other side and there be able to grab a branch or anything to slow yourself down after this.
52:16🔗DrewIt's fine. He was abusive. Put it down. Forget it.
52:19🔗CallerBut I don't want to regret not writing to him because I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.
52:32🔗CallerI feel like I kind of need closure or something.
52:34🔗DrewClosure is you having the self-esteem to do something ritualistic with that letter and put it away forever.
52:41🔗AdamLet me tell you about closure and strength, everyone. It's about not doing anything sometimes. Not picking up the phone, not writing the letter, not throwing the rock, not ramming the car in front of you.
52:53🔗DrewMichelle's hell-bent on getting back with him. That's what that is, Michelle. That's what that is.
52:57🔗AdamYes. You can disguise it as closure, but that's BS.
53:23🔗DrewYou can't reason, you know what I mean? You can't find a place to connect when there's too much denial or too much paranoia. It's like it's too disconnected from reality.
53:32🔗AdamUh-huh. I don't like people that take care of themselves too much or worry too much about themselves. Do you not like those people?
53:44🔗AdamI'm really the worst. Every time we do some nutty thing at the man show and there's somebody going, well, now shouldn't we put down some grip tape and put like, don't we need some extra lighting? Just get in there. Well, we need to get a stunt man or something. We can't have one of them. Now, just shoot them with the exploding doke. He'll be fine. He should wear protective. No, he'll be cool.
54:11🔗DrewWhat about the testicle outfit? That's going to get ruined.
54:13🔗AdamWhat do we got insurance for? He's fine. Katie?
54:37🔗DrewYou really should see someone. Not so much about the bleeding, but the degree of irregularity you're having. Are you overweight at all? A little bit. There's something called Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome that actually is very important for you to know about if you have it. And it's associated with being a little overweight, a little resistant to the effects of insulin, so there's a chance of diabetes later on, and really irregular periods from multiple cysts. It's worth knowing about. And there are other things that can cause this too that should be evaluated at your age.
55:04🔗AdamYou know what's funny about that when you ask someone if they're a little bit overweight, when they stutter for a few minutes, that's usually in the, it's ten, it's more than ten pounds overweight, because it wouldn't count that ten, and less than 40, because they would just go ahead and say they were overweight. Yeah, that's the chick who's five-eight and one-sixty-five.
55:32🔗DrewWhich is actually perfect for PCO, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, that's part of that, that's kind of described.
55:51🔗CallerI just got back from a visit from back home, Illinois, and I saw one of my old girlfriends, and I haven't dated for three years now. And when I saw her again, I fell head over heels again for her. And I'm here in California. Yeah, I don't know what to do. Is she worth moving back for or what?
56:11🔗DrewWhy'd you break up with her in the first place?
56:14🔗CallerI went down to Florida for a few months, and we just lost contact.
56:17🔗DrewWhy wasn't it something worth maintaining contact for?
56:20🔗CallerI tried, and she's just tough to get ahold of.
56:48🔗AdamWhat's that? You had a tough time with the ladies in San Diego?
56:52🔗CallerYeah. I've only been out here eight months.
56:56🔗AdamNo luck. No. Yeah. If you met a chick in San Diego, you were halfway into it. You wouldn't even dream of moving back to Chicago. I mean, this is based on your desperation, not on how much she's blossomed. All right. He's got the radio up, so I'm going to hang up on him.
57:15🔗DrewYeah. That's it. That's what I was getting at, too. It's amazing. When he had a lot going on, I was like, yeah, whatever. Now he's alone. He feels uncomfortable. It's like, whoa, this one's fantastic.
57:25🔗AdamWell, it's amazing how good anything can look when you've been denied it for a long time. A corn dog can look like a pheasant under glass if you haven't eaten in a long time.
57:40🔗AdamBut you know what I was thinking about? No, that is really good. You know what I was thinking about with Chuck? This would be a horrible thing to say, but you know what, Drew? We're too old to see girls we haven't seen in a while and see how they've blossomed. Do you know what I'm talking about? Guys, enjoy this because it doesn't happen when you get older. Drew, you're what, 43, 42? Right, you know, if you saw some chick you last saw when she was 23 and you see her now, it's like, oh Christ, honey, what happened? Did you get run over? What happened? Is this some accident at the plant? What the hell happened? I mean, the best you can say at our age, and I know this sounds sexist and double standard and horrible, but the best you can say is, hey, holding up pretty good. She's, she don't look like crap. That is like, that is high praise. And you don't have that when you're when you're 15, 16, 17, you're dating girl, and then you see her again at 21, 22, you're like, whoa, honey, you shed that weight, you're looking good. What happened? What did you do? Cut your hair? Oh, you got your teeth fixed? Yeah. But that don't happen later in life. So I'm just saying enjoy it. Because when I see those girls I went to high school with now, I'm like, well, I'm glad you didn't, you didn't have sex with me now.
59:02🔗DrewWhen did you see people from high school?
59:05🔗AdamYeah, oh, reunions and you went to a reunion. I've been to a reunion in.
59:10🔗DrewI would pay to be at one of your reunions.
59:16🔗AdamWell, let's see. Yeah, yeah, because I graduated 18. Yeah, I'm going to have a 20 year reunion in another year and a half or two years, something like that.
59:27🔗DrewOh. I had to witness that. You and Chris and I.
59:32🔗AdamYes. But let me tell you something. Anyone who's going to attend the 1982 graduating class of North Hollywood High reunion, I will be returning like MacArthur returned to the Philippines.
59:43🔗DrewYou're going to walk way out of the ocean.
59:45🔗AdamI will pull up in an amphibious landing craft. I'm going to be wearing a cape and a crown. I'll have a orchestra playing as I enter. All will hail the king. See, my last reunion, I was still swinging a hammer, so it wasn't any fun. And my buddy Ray Pete on me.
1:00:02🔗DrewOh, well, that was all a good time. You know, relive the past, you know.
1:00:14🔗CallerYeah, like, I was at work the other day and we were discussing like, you know, stupid stuff. And all of a sudden some guy told me that every like, like year you should go get your like rectum cleaned out.
1:00:53🔗AdamWho do you work with? Who is this guy?
1:00:54🔗CallerI work in the kitchen. I work in the hospital, actually. I work in the hospital in the kitchen. And like this guy was just like, he said, no, some nurse told me this. And I'm like, are you serious? He's like, yeah.
1:01:12🔗DrewOh, no. Everything was hugely improved.
1:01:15🔗AdamOh, yeah. Well, I don't know what food was like at your school, but you went to a decent school. Did they have these on college? No, not in college. In like high school, junior high?
1:01:50🔗CallerJust like having a cold, like I have a cold right now. And I always get fevers. And I'm just wondering, you know, why? I mean, I get even nearer to someone that has a cold than I get it. And, you know, I don't know if I'm anemic or I don't know.
1:02:08🔗DrewDo you have any medical problems that would put you at risk for infection?
1:02:15🔗DrewOh, by the way. Yeah, of course. That's a terrible stress to your system and it makes it difficult for your immune system to function. So naturally enough, you come in contact with an infection, you're going to get it. And you'll have more complications from the infections, too.
1:02:41🔗DrewPlease, please. Let's talk about it. Why? That's the reaction that really pisses me off. And that's the denial piece that I get so frustrated with.
1:03:14🔗AdamYou need to handle your bulimia and then worry about all the little crap that you're worrying about now instead of worrying about your bulimia.
1:03:22🔗DrewThat's what we call rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Okay? The colds, deck chairs. Titanic going down because of bulimia. Okay?
1:04:01🔗AdamPlease. I'm going to tell all you people, you live in these hell holes and you don't even care. This Van Nuys is a dump. I grew up in North Howard. That was a dump. I had friends in Van Nuys. I worked in Van Nuys. It's a horrible place. Van Nuys means, it actually means hell hole in Spanish.
1:04:23🔗AdamThe point is, if you can scrape together another 65 bucks a month rent, you can slide over to Sherman Oaks and you'll be fine. And oh, handle your bulimia while you're at it. Here we go. Jesse.
1:05:34🔗AdamOh, 15. Jeez, where do you go from there? Not up, brother. Just sideways from now on. You don't go anywhere from oral. That's it. You've peaked at 15. Enjoy. So she gave you oral. Something came out of your pants. She spit it onto your hand.
1:06:17🔗DrewWell, if you are concerned, there's no, you're obviously not going to, you're not going to give us enough information for us to judge whether this is even a realistic possibility, but if you're concerned, but if you're concerned, she can certainly take the morning after pill. And that will substantially, if she takes it the next 24 hours, she will reduce the risk of pregnancy by about 90%. Okay.
1:06:36🔗CallerYeah. I just wanted to know, like, is there, like, what's the biggest percentage that she could be?
1:07:03🔗AdamEven if you're doing it sort of manually. So by proxy. Get her on some, just be more responsible. Now, you know why I was laughing at the top of the call? I was thinking about how I always say Van Nuys is a dump. North Hollywood is a dump. Then I think about, well, doesn't that upset people? Then I realized we never got a phone call with anyone upset or defending.
1:07:27🔗DrewBecause they live in the dump. They know where they live.
1:07:30🔗AdamThey know it. Yeah. Who's going to argue with that? Jessica?
1:07:38🔗CallerI just have this really big fear of like, okay, because I'll hang out with these guys and my friends and stuff. They'll just be shown up there because I won't know that they're going. I don't know, I guess sometimes they get a crush on me. Then when somebody tells me, I like completely stop talking to them and I just get really...
1:07:59🔗DrewHave you ever been interested in one of the guys that is interested in you?
1:08:03🔗CallerWell, it's just like whenever the guys that I have a crush on never seem to like me.
1:08:08🔗DrewRight. Okay. And so you don't want to be sort of intruded upon by these guys that do like you.
1:08:12🔗CallerI just get like really scared of them.
1:08:14🔗DrewThat's all right. You're 15. You may not yet have the skills in order to manage guys that sort of come on to you that way. That's all right. That's all right. The more interesting question is why you can't sort of let it be known to the guys you are interested in.
1:08:29🔗CallerI don't know. I get... I'm afraid he'll like reject me.
1:08:33🔗AdamHow old are the guys that you're hanging out with? How old are they now?
1:11:09🔗AdamOkay. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Okay. Kids, this could be the rest of the show. It's a straight American name. I'm only going to take calls that are guesses now on this guy's name. It's a regular American name. I know I'm going to throttle her when I find out the guy's name is Hezekiah.
1:11:29🔗AdamBut we're going to take a break. Well, we'll finish the guessing after this.
1:11:34🔗CallerLove Line, Love Line, we'll be right back.
1:11:36🔗Hi, this is David Arquette, and you're listening to the Love Line with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew.
1:11:43🔗AdamAll righty, kids. Phone number, 1-800-LOVE-191. When we left off, we were speaking to Jessica. Jessica, is your radio turned down now, by the way?
1:11:55🔗AdamOkay. Now, you're 15. You're a little creeped out by guys you don't like, but you're unable to connect with guys you do like.
1:12:02🔗CallerYeah, it like bugs me all day. I think about it all day.
1:12:05🔗AdamMore importantly, there's a guy you have a crush on at school, right? And you have not been able to muster the courage to come up and talk to him, right?
1:12:14🔗CallerWell, I'm like friends with him, but I can't tell him that I like.
1:13:21🔗AdamNow, I swear. You know what's going to happen, Jessica? You are going to give me the name of someone I named 10 minutes ago and I'm going to fly out to Phoenix and strangle you. Okay.
1:14:40🔗AdamYou're 31. I'm trying to think of names. Yeah. What's up?
1:14:43🔗CallerOh, yeah. I'm 31. About six months ago, I started having a new kind of orgasm in addition to the old one. Wow. I'm trying to figure out what the hell it is and why it's starting now after I've been sexually active half my life.
1:15:01🔗CallerIt's a much smaller release, but it's much easier. It happens more frequently. Before, I could only have clitoral orgasms that were very intense. It took a long time. And this is like, I can have it from intercourse, from almost anything, and it's short and sudden, and it's really, really wet.
1:15:46🔗DrewWell, it's probably what's doing it still. Interestingly, it changes orgasmic function. Usually it diminishes it. Are you having more difficulty having a clitoral orgasm?
1:15:54🔗CallerNo, that, that's just, the olivagin orgasm is the same. Yeah. This is like just more.
1:15:58🔗DrewI bet it's the Paxil though, I really do. And because Paxil just changes all that function and changes in different ways in different people, usually in the downward direction makes it worse. But I can see where it could make a better change too.
1:16:09🔗CallerWell, it's really embarrassing. I mean, I feel like I should only date guys named Noah now. I'm like, I'm just, it's got Bill Nark. No, it's really bad.
1:16:17🔗DrewYeah, guys are pleased when they achieve that with you.
1:17:28🔗CallerYeah. Good evening, gentlemen. And thanks for taking my call. I have a long time listener, but I've never called before, so I appreciate you taking my call. Here we are.
1:17:38🔗CallerAnyway, I've got kind of a troubling situation. I've been an amputee for 20 years as a result of a motorcycle accident. I have an above-the-knee amputation on my right leg, and I'm pretty active. Good times.
1:18:02🔗CallerPhantom pain is in a plastic foot I don't have. Everybody knows it's plastic, but it hurts badly.
1:18:09🔗DrewPhantom pain, literally, you feel like that limb that you had is still there and you're feeling pain in it.
1:18:14🔗CallerYeah. But most of the times, most amputees I've talked with don't even have this problem. Right. Not only do I have the problem, but it seems to be getting worse. I've just been through three days of intense pain.
1:18:34🔗AdamAre you actually having pain in... Would you shut up, Drew? You have a prosthetic leg and you have a foot and you're actually in pain in the foot of the prosthetic leg?
1:18:47🔗CallerIt feels like someone is taking a high-voltage wire and stabbing at my heel.
1:18:53🔗DrewIf he took off the prosthetic leg, he'd still have the pain.
1:19:39🔗DrewIt's difficult to treat and people might blow it off because it's impossible to treat. You should see a pain specialist. They have spinal nerve stimulators and all kinds of things they can do to treat this. It's a nerve issue. It's a spinal reflex and a peripheral nerve problem.
1:19:54🔗AdamWhere is the leg that was amputated? Because you're going to have to get a priest in there to exercise it. That's the only way to get rid of phantom pain.
1:20:01🔗CallerWell, I was just going to ask you, Dr. Drew, is there anything that is developing in this?
1:20:08🔗DrewYeah, a ton. You need to go down to Irvine and go to the chronic pain program and see what they can do. They've got an anesthesia and a neurosurgery department there that both deals with chronic pain. They have all kinds of new things for this. There are spinal stimulators. There's intrathecal injections. It depends where they localize the pain syndrome is coming from.
1:20:27🔗AdamYeah. Huh? I'm trying to come up with names here.
1:21:29🔗AdamUh, Willie? True. We're staying with these stupid Ws because we've got to hair up your ass. And hang on, Jessica. And then when it just tuned in, I'm trying to figure out the name of the guy that Jessica has a crush on. She says it's a normal American name. I know I'm going to kill her when she gives me the name.
1:21:51🔗AdamIt will be Octavio or it will be the third name that I mentioned, but she wasn't listening because Sally Jessie Raphael was playing. Hold on. Raphael?
1:25:38🔗CallerNot much. I was hoping to get your opinions and advice on what it takes to be successful in therapy. All right.
1:25:45🔗DrewJust hang in. Hang in and be willing. Be willing. That is the one piece of advice. I gave a lecture the other day where I tried to struggle with, I was at a group of addicts and we were trying to come to terms with how do you give somebody get it. I think I talked about this the other night. How do you get them to sort of get it, to be willing to follow the direction, to be willing to give in to the process of treatment. It's hard. It's hard to get somebody there. A good therapist will sort of connect with you where you are and find a way to build a relationship wherever it is you are and then you'll get it eventually.
1:27:00🔗CallerYeah. Yeah. You know, I really respect you guys' opinion.
1:27:06🔗AdamDr. Drew, I really respect your opinion. Thanks, Jesse. It means a lot to us. It does. And it'd mean more to us if you kept with your program.
1:27:24🔗AdamYeah. Yeah. My opinion is show up and, you know, you can treat... I mean, look at it this way. It's not a great analogy, but it's somewhat apropos. If you go to a personal trainer once a week, and you sit there...
1:27:47🔗AdamYeah, I can't. You just sort of stand around, then the world's best personal trainer will get no results. And if you just do what they tell you to do and work with them and essentially break a sweat...
1:28:22🔗CallerLike a month ago, I found a bump on my vagina and I didn't think anything of it because I just thought it was like an ingrown hair. And then my friends were saying that could it just be like a harmless cyst, but I wanted to go to the doctor anyways. So I got in there today and she saw it and she's like, oh no, it's nothing. You know, just an ingrown hair. And she wanted to just leave it, but I didn't want her to. So she's like, okay, you know, I'll cut it open and I'll let it drain or whatever. And she cut it open and she's like, this is definitely not an ingrown hair. This is definitely not a cyst. And she was like digging around and she's like, I have no idea what this is. And she's like, oh, it should go down, but I think I'm going to have to get a second opinion and come back in six weeks. And that scares me. And so she like numbed it. She put a shot in it and the numbing wore off. And now I'm in extreme pain. I can barely walk and it's like swelled up.
1:29:54🔗DrewIt's probably what's a Bartholomew's gland that gets clogged. But even so, if the doctor really has no idea what it is, you need a diagnosis. So push on for that.
1:30:11🔗CallerAnd well, I'm gay, and I like, it's just kind of hard where I live to find people, but like where I work, this person recently came out to me, and he was just like, yeah, hey, and we were talking, and then we went out to the movies on Monday, Memorial Day, and then he started like asking questions and stuff like that, and you know, so I answered him, because I'm more useful in lifestyle, because when I figured out that I was gay, I just like accepted it. I'm just like, this is who I am.
1:30:42🔗CallerWell, he's new to this, and when I answer these questions, they don't sound like he was like uncomfortable around me, and like he doesn't understand what's happening or anything like that.
1:30:54🔗DrewMaybe you can help him be more at ease with all this.
1:30:59🔗CallerYeah, well, it's just like I want him to be like comfortable around me, except whenever I approach him, I feel like he's acting weird around me.
1:31:24🔗AdamIt's the first time. He's breaking ground and breaking behind us. Yeah. Feel it out. Take it slow. Don't freak the guy out. It'll all work out. Good times. We'll be back.
1:31:42🔗AdamYeah. All right. Well, there you go. Another fantabulous Loveline show. We learned all the male names in the Bible. And until next time, this is Adam Corolla for Dr. Drew saying mahalo. Jessica?
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