1:15🔗
Adam
Yes, it is. I am at, okay, that's fantastic radio, Bruce. Crumble that bag right on into the microphone there.
1:24🔗
Adam
All right, here's the deal. I'm going to try like hell not to pick on you tonight, Dr. Bruce filling in for Dr. Drew, but please do not tempt me.
1:36🔗
Adam
I was asked not to tear you a third a-hole. I know you already have two, but I'm not going to go for three, but that is provided you show up on time and do not crackle the paper bag into the microphone. All right. It is Loveline and Adam Corolla. That is Dr. Bruce filling in for Dr. Drew. And the one time, by the way, and Dr. Bruce is just as qualified as Dr. Drew to do this job. He is a board certified, he's an internist, he's an addiction medicine specialist. He specializes in tattoo removal and emergency medicine, and probably knows more than Drew about life and medicine. And Drew's defended you, to me, many times, saying how exquisitely intelligent you were, and I just laughed like a hyena. But he really thinks you're smart, and I think it's because you have an ability to digest useless knowledge. But he's really impressed by you. Anyway-
2:32🔗
Adam
Yeah, Bruce, would you just come from the prom? What the hell do you got on there? How much aquavelva you're sporting tonight?
2:40🔗
Adam
You really smell good. That is Anderson Cooper, of course, the host of The Mole, ABC, Tuesday nights at 8 o'clock. And I was really, as I was saying to Anderson and producer Anne before the show, it's so ironic that Drew is not here tonight because he's a big Mole fan. And I thought for once he could contribute to the interview because he usually has no idea who we're talking to and about what. But this is a show that he really enjoys. And he is not here. Bruce, do you watch The Mole? No, but I do. I knew it.
3:21🔗
Adam
Have you? No, I've never seen it. No, I've seen bits and pieces of it. So Bruce, you know nothing about The Mole.
3:30🔗
Adam
All right, let's stop flapping it into the mic. Let's talk about The Mole. First off, they're all taped, they're all done, right?
3:41🔗
Adam
So you know what the outcome is. And what would happen to you if you just decided to blurt out over the microphone what the answer was?
3:49🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Well, like Scott Stone and Dave Stanley would sue me for the rest of my life.
3:58🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Yeah, unless you cross them and then they're going to like litigate you until you're dead.
4:09🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Yeah, I've signed a ten million dollar confidentiality agreement.
4:13🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
If I just reported out right now who the mole was, I would destroy the program and I would be sued for ten million dollars and they would be able to get, not that I have it, but if I had it, they would be able to get it.
4:30🔗
Adam
Everyone's got a ten million dollar thing? Has anyone approached you? Has there been any mafia guys or anything?
4:36🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
It's not like in Willy Wonka where the guy comes over and whispers in your ear.
4:51🔗
Come on, buddy.
4:53🔗
Adam
I'll buy the first six pictures of margaritas. Just unwind. Let your hair down a little bit. Just say what's on your mind. Alright, so again, Tuesday nights, ABC, 8 o'clock and...
5:16🔗
Adam
No, no, I'm here. How dare you? I'm here during my own show. You put it on a TV monitor here. Do you see a TV monitor in this studio? Right next door. Anderson, you're a journalist, are you not? Sort of. Do you see? Oh, yes.
5:34🔗
Adam
Besides the 27-inch TV that's in here. No, but that TV does not work. It will not pick up. It won't. Anderson, please.
5:41🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
If you watch someone's TV too much, you get hair on your palms.
5:44🔗
Adam
You want to talk a little about the journalism? Anderson went to Yale, by the way. Yeah, that's big time. Bruce went to a college even the Dean hasn't heard of.
6:07🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Yeah, plenty of times. I used to be a combat reporter for like three years. I was in Somalia and Bosnia a lot.
6:14🔗
Adam
The combat reporter seems like kind of a hairy job. It seems like even though they're not supposed to shoot you, they just might anyway or you could just get hit.
6:23🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Often they're like paid extra. Like in Sarajevo, the snipers were paid extra for hitting a journalist.
6:28🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
There was a guy from ABC who was killed. He was shot in the back.
6:37🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Like in Sarajevo during the war, the Serbs were shooting into Sarajevo and they felt the media coverage about them was against them. So they didn't like the media, so they would give extra two snipers.
6:49🔗
Adam
Isn't there some sort of Geneva Convention though about that? I mean, not that it applies. Not that you care when you're dead.
7:05🔗
Adam
Right. Like a guy who's got a big red cross on his helmet. He's trying to drag somebody out of harm's way.
7:20🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
No, I've been very lucky. I was shot at a couple of times directly, but I was very lucky.
7:29🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Sure. Oh, man. I was in South Africa a lot before the elections. There was a lot of shooting there in Rwanda during the Civil War. And I was doing an actual standup and I got shot at in Sarajevo and it hit right over my head. I didn't know what it was. It was the first time I'd been shot at. And I heard this huge crack going off and I looked and there was this column and a little puff of smoke was coming out of the column and I sat there for a second and I was like oh my god someone is shooting at me and I dived down.
7:53🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Yeah I was just being stupid. Yeah I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
7:56🔗
Adam
Yeah that's why I always report from my hotel room when I do those assignments. Alright Amanda?
8:04🔗
Yeah.
8:06🔗
Caller
Okay my father he's kind of a nutcase. First of all I want to say I love Adam. I love you to death.
8:22🔗
Caller
My father is an alcoholic. He's also manic and bipolar, depressant. He lives with his dad right now. But I tend to kind of go after guys that are just like him and I haven't had a boyfriend in over a year and a half and I want to know how to kind of get out of that phase of chasing men like him.
8:47🔗
Adam
I see. Are you in high school? Did you graduate? Yeah, I just ate too much tonight so I'm going to be belching all night. Well listen, you know what you're doing and you don't want to do it, right? Right. So all you have to do is stay sober and you're probably not going to do it.
9:06🔗
Dr. Bruce
What happens, you grew up with a chaotic environment and even if your dad wasn't right there, when you have that kind of a chaotic experience with a male, it's ingrained and you go back to what you're familiar with and unless you do some active therapy to deal with that, even if you stay sober, you're probably going to find if you have a room with a hundred guys and one guy that's chaotic and has a problem, you'll probably end up with that guy.
9:54🔗
Dr. Bruce
Yeah, but see, it doesn't matter if you've been in therapy since you're an infant. You didn't make the jump to where you are able to deal with the issue. You're still in that behavior. So you need to go to a different therapist or do something more focused to deal with that issue.
10:11🔗
Adam
All right, but Amanda, let me say this before we hang up on you. I obviously agree with Bruce. This is gonna take some therapy to undo. On the other hand, I don't feel good about sitting here night after night telling everyone to just go get therapy. I mean, it would help them and it can be the answer, but you're 18, you don't have any money, and it's hard to pull off.
10:34🔗
Adam
But it's a mixture between talking and acting. Do you know what I mean? I mean, you work it out in the therapist's office, but it's up to you when you're outside of the therapist's office not to act on these things.
10:53🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay, but those aren't things like you get a diploma and graduate. They are special.
11:00🔗
Dr. Bruce
They're especially important when you're going through these kind of issues, where you can talk about it as you're going through it.
11:07🔗
Adam
All right, do it. I agree with Bruce, and, but listen, and I don't want to get too heady too early in the show here, but I've done plenty of therapy myself and there's a time, and I've done three, four years of time when my life was a disaster and the only thing good was the therapy. And then there's a time when you can actually go out and act upon what you're learning in the therapist's office. And that's important to do too. And that's what she needs to do. She understands what she's doing. She needs to keep an eye on herself and not get herself in those dangerous situations for her. Megan?
11:41🔗
Yeah.
11:43🔗
Caller
All right. My problem, it all started last year when I first got my job. I'm this cute little blonde girl. I walk into work and all the guys are all trying to get with me because, I mean, it's all a male environment, you know? They haven't had a girl in there in forever, you know what I'm saying?
12:03🔗
Oh, really?
12:05🔗
Adam
You guys, these are where stone teenagers run around with those guns and those marker beacon belts and they chase each other through plywood mazes.
12:39🔗
Caller
Yeah. But that's beside the point. But yeah. OK. So all the guys are blah, blah, blah. And it's pretty much a big competition on who can get with me first, you know, whatever. But then I eventually get with this one guy and, you know, all the lines. Oh, you're beautiful. You're great.
12:54🔗
Blah, blah, blah.
13:01🔗
I was 16.
13:06🔗
Caller
I mean, he he was a lot different than me because I was like this little innocent thing and he smoked and.
13:19🔗
Adam
No, no. I know what it's like to have some smooth talking. 15 year old come sweep me off my feet. Cigarettes rolled up and looking like Matt Dillon.
13:45🔗
Caller
And then he ended up dumping me and he was like, well, we don't go to the same school. I never get to see you. I was like in this big depression for like three weeks. Don't ask me why.
13:56🔗
Caller
I did. He was pretty much one of my first boyfriends and I messed around with him more than I had with any other guy and I was real sad. You know, sure. And my friends are trying to snap me out of it. I just I couldn't get over it.
14:19🔗
Caller
He fingered me. I gave him a hand job. But then, like after he broke up and I gave him head because he was all like.
14:49🔗
Caller
My dad, he's an alcoholic. He he pretty much he was never there like my whole life. I don't really think he cares about us. He lives with his mom now because he can't really take care of himself.
15:10🔗
Dr. Bruce
Was it weird or did you identify and do you think you could pick something up from that?
15:15🔗
Caller
Yeah. But I mean, here's my problem. Like he he hooked up with this other girl, this new girl, you know, and treat her about. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not saying that, am I?
15:29🔗
Caller
I'm sorry. He treats me really bad for about five months. And then when she breaks up with them, then he's all like, so Megan, you know, all over me again.
15:45🔗
Adam
I know. But you don't really care about him. It's not him. It's just what he represents. It's the energy that he awakens in you. You understand? I know it doesn't make a difference. It's the same pain, but that's the truth.
16:00🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
It's also the kind of guy you're going to look back a year from now and like say, what was that about?
16:04🔗
Adam
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Just like every girl I dated, they look back at me. F was, I think, a year. It's usually like 10 days.
16:12🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay, listen, the problem is not what he's doing or what your girlfriend said. The problem is how you react to this guy and the fact that you're still interested in him and not seeing the big picture. The other gal that called, you have the same issues and when you have a dad that has the kind of issues that both of your dads have, you tend to gravitate towards men that are similar. They're chaotic, abusive, and then you get into trouble.
16:39🔗
Adam
It's a wonderful, wonderful legacy that a horrible father leaves his daughter, which is insuring her future with horrible guys. Which is really, now they're getting it from both ends. So not only is the father, the biological father, a horrible human being, not only is he not there to provide and nurture her and look after her, but he sees to it that emotionally she will be magnetically drawn to alcoholic, abusive a-holes for the rest of her life.
17:10🔗
Dr. Bruce
It's not a knowledge thing. The previous caller, she had the knowledge, she's been through the therapy, but she's not internalized it, she's not worked through the actual feelings and connected to what brought her to that point, that she's still having this kind of an attraction to these kind of guys. And it's something that therapy is only going to work if you connect with what's going on emotionally.
17:32🔗
Adam
Here's the reality. For someone like Megan, it could be some years in some bad relationships. You hope the guy doesn't put a bullet in her head, you hope she doesn't crank out three kids, you hope, you hope, you hope that no tragedy strikes until she sees the light and sort of gets herself out of this. And it could be sooner than later or it could be later than sooner. You don't know. She's calling, she's asking. Hopefully she can hear this and get to it.
17:57🔗
Dr. Bruce
But she can get to an alatein group. She can go somewhere where she gets a sponsor, somebody that's more mature than her that she can bounce things off of and get some insight.
18:05🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Have you ever heard that Dorothy Parker quote, those born to the storm find the calm very boring?
18:19🔗
Adam
Who was taken by a tornado tragically from Kansas in the late 20s, early 30s. Is that right?
18:32🔗
Hello?
18:37🔗
Caller
I was riding my skateboard and I tried to do a gap in an impossible and the board landed vertical and I landed right on it with my balls.
19:28🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay. And the testicles are not made for that kind of roughness. That's why included in the elbow pads and the helmet, you should have some other protection on. But you're probably past the point of having a serious problem and you'll go back to normal.
19:50🔗
Dr. Bruce
Well, if you have trauma to your testicles, it's a week ago. I mean, if he ruptured his testicle.
20:00🔗
Adam
I know. I know. But finish your thought, jackass. If he'd done something catastrophic, he would have known it in a week's time.
20:13🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Can you get hard and stuff or is it just not, you're just not ejaculating?
20:22🔗
Adam
By the way, if I, at 17, was not masturbating in one week, I would have been airlifted many days ago.
20:56🔗
Adam
One day, you're going to have a few kids out of wedlock and then abandon them. Do you understand? You'll never be able to do that if you don't get your testicles examined.
21:12🔗
Adam
Start wearing some padding. Put those out. Okay. He's not going to do it. But I see these guys doing the most insane things on these, you know, they're at some junior high. They kick it up on some metal hand railing. They're splitting the railing all the way down, you know, six flights of stairs. And it's all in a pair of shorts and tennis shoes. And it's nothing but concrete formed steps around them and like parking pylons and stuff. And I'm just thinking, you can't put the elbow pad on. Would that be too much? No, I mean, I don't even care. I forget about the helmet, but just put the elbow, put the knee-in-the-elbow thing on. It hurts my teeth when I watch these guys wipe out on these hidden video shows.
21:55🔗
Dr. Bruce
Well, the rock videos, whenever they have the skateboards in there, they never have the protective stuff on. But you watch the X Games, these guys are like...
22:05🔗
Adam
Plan on crashing. That's the way I approach life. I wear a cup to bed every night. Oh, I don't have to tell you about that.
22:15🔗
Adam
You never know what could happen. A piece of the shuttle could break loose and come through the ceiling. All right, Anderson Cooper is our guest tonight from the mold. Tuesday nights, ABC, 8 o'clock. We'll take ourselves a little break. When we come back, we'll speak to Carrie. Carrie's 29, had sex with best friend in the heat of the moment, regrets it.
22:36🔗
Adam
Well, we'll find out when we come back. The Loveline, I'm Adam Corolla, that is Dr. Bruce. Filling in for Dr. Drew, doing a wonderful job on top of his game tonight. Brought me a bottled water and some of that high octane coffee. His wife brews up special for him. God bless you, Bruce. Anderson Cooper's our guest tonight. He's the host of The Mole. Well, you know when that is. It is Tuesday nights, ABC, 8 o'clock. That would be tomorrow night or tonight if you're hearing the show in the day to lay, but it's over because it's too late and I don't want to do the math, but you can figure out what I'm saying.
23:24🔗
Adam
I have no idea. I have no idea. He got a tip that there was some change in the slot of a phone machine at the Tampa Airport. He hopped on the first plane and he was trying to get it for some kids did. So he's chasing change around the country like an idiot. And I'm here with my dignity and full-tact holding the show down as per usual.
23:48🔗
Adam
No. You know what's weird? I don't like work. I don't like work because it has a word work in it. And I'm a Corolla and Corolla's a fear work. We have a long line of people who don't like work. But I like this show. I'm always here. Drew is here about half the time I'm here is because he has no commitment. He has no love. No love for the kids. He doesn't want to keep it real.
24:14🔗
Adam
Like me. I do it all for the kids and for the money. A lot of it's for the money and some for the kids.
24:28🔗
Dr. Bruce
It means that you're returning to your chaotic past and this is a chaotic environment that Drew would like to avoid.
24:34🔗
Adam
It is sad because people say to me all the time, what's it like talking to all those pregnant teenagers and those kids with sexual abuse and physical abuse? Doesn't it eat you up inside? I go, I didn't really think about it. And then I try to feel bad, I try to feel bad like retroactively. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of hard to sleep at night sometimes.
24:53🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Well, it's funny, I used to do combat reporting. It's the same thing. You'd go to these, you know, Rwanda or Somalia, whatever, and people say, how do you do that? And you're like, it's actually kind of fun.
25:02🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, I would imagine the type of person who is drawn to doing something where you're seeing a lot of people in pain is the kind of person that's okay with seeing people in pain.
25:17🔗
Adam
It certainly does, although I got to tell you, this is not one tenth of combat reporting and not just the danger aspect of it, but seeing all those poor, suffering people in these third world countries and the kids.
25:42🔗
Dr. Bruce
I just made the biggest mistake of my life, and I don't know what to do about it now. I have had this friend for about...
25:58🔗
Adam
Yeah, you did what I did yesterday. You took the Giants in the under. That is the biggest mistake ever made in my life.
26:11🔗
Dr. Bruce
I had this friend for all my life. Our moms are best friends. We grew up together. We played together when we were kids. He just recently came back from Iowa. He left his life and drove back here. I was staying with his mom who lives right around the corner from me. And I don't know, I guess we just kind of started flirting with each other. And eventually we went on this drive and we got in this car wreck and broke the car. And then we wound up having sex. And it was the worst sex in the world. In the broken car?
26:49🔗
Dr. Bruce
I was just in a cramped little car and he's a really big guy. And it was just really awful.
26:58🔗
An Acura.
27:05🔗
Adam
So he's a big guy for the Acura. And why do you feel so bad that you just love with him?
27:18🔗
Dr. Bruce
I don't know. I told him I didn't want to do it anymore. And last night, he came over and he was yelling at his sister on my front porch. And I went out and told him to be quiet and he started yelling at me and he started calling me. All the words and all the words you can ever think of for a friend.
27:36🔗
Adam
Listen, can't you just hit him with your banjo or throw your cider jug at him next time he's out on the porch, jawing with his sister? You know that rope you use to hold your pants up? Go snap it on the back of his neck. You guys sound like hillbillies.
27:56🔗
Adam
See, see, here's the thing people don't know about California. People think California, they think Venice Beach and Hollywood and Sunset Strip. Stockton is in California, right? Yeah. See, there's a lot of hillbillies in California. What's going on over there?
28:27🔗
Adam
Pa takes the drink sometimes. The still blew up, he's deaf in one ear. Oh, listen, here's a question. What are you doing around Stockton at 29? Where did your life go south?
28:44🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
You assume because she lives in Stockton that our lives go south.
28:58🔗
Dr. Bruce
So hey, listen, I mean, that's a great lesson because that's what happens when you have sex with somebody before you, obviously, way before you have any intimacy. And with this...
29:17🔗
Adam
I see him looking down, big long list of people he went to high school with in junior high, all checked off. He just checked Carrie's name off. Last one on the list, mob. Jesus.
29:27🔗
Dr. Bruce
The reality is you, Adam, project that sex is a recreational sport, which it's not. And when people get what they want...
29:37🔗
Dr. Bruce
When people get what they want, it's like the Chinese curse, may you have what you desire or however that goes. But, Carrie, you could learn something from this, but you're right. You probably ruined that friendship and you can never go back to where you were.
30:24🔗
Dr. Bruce
But he is a good father. I needed to go back to school and go back to work and I couldn't afford... I didn't want to go on welfare and I didn't want to leave my kids in daycare all the time. All right.
30:43🔗
Dr. Bruce
Fortunately, I also happen to be very attractive and that makes it really hard for me.
31:09🔗
Adam
Who is that? That's Peaches. Tell Peaches to drink a little more of that shine and just quiet down. Listen, Carrie, you finish up. You're going to junior college? Yes. All right, hurry. Get out of there. It's Exit 12. I want to listen to the story. I don't want to dissect it. Listen, Carrie, don't talk to him and talk to us. Listen to me. Your life has not gone that well so far, right?
31:42🔗
Adam
Finish off that. Listen, if you have an impulse to do something, like you think this guy is cute or you think this is a good place to work or you think you ought to shack up with this dude, don't do it because you see what trouble it leads to.
31:54🔗
Adam
All right. Get your school and done. Get your S together. Go get your kids back and don't worry about this guy. If he's not friends with you anymore, fine.
32:09🔗
Adam
She's got a million years. I got two minutes. I'm done with her. But you understand there's much more to this than meets the eye. Much more. And the thing that's sad is she's got two kids.
32:23🔗
Adam
No, she has not. They don't have therapy in Stockton. Carrie, do they have therapists in Stockton?
32:39🔗
Dr. Bruce
No, you didn't. Okay, listen. You have kids. You need to take responsibility and you need to put the work into it. You've got to work at finding out where all these things come from and how you can change the decision making you do and the impulsiveness. It's going to take on a meeting. I don't know what your debt, if there was any addictions or other problems in your family.
33:01🔗
Adam
Listen, Carrie, you have kids. You have to do it for your kids. You hear me? Yeah, I know.
33:06🔗
Dr. Bruce
Therapy does not take care of addictive disorders. You've got to go to the meetings. You've got to work through the steps.
33:11🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
It's weird, because everyone who calls seems to know kind of what they should be doing, but they're just not doing it.
33:15🔗
Dr. Bruce
That's what a good therapist does, though. It leads the person. They don't tell you what to do. People know what they instinctively, they usually do know what they need, especially...
33:22🔗
Adam
Most people, certainly by Carrie's age, which is almost 30, after having a crap-filled life, filled with the same mistakes over and over again, or at least at the place where they're willing to admit that maybe all the choices they haven't made weren't the greatest, and maybe they should go down a different road. I think that's where Carrie is at. It's humbling, and they're humbled. I mean, you're cocky when you're 19. You hear the people call this show at 17. They're usually not ready to do anything, or if they do, it's not going to be for a few years. After you've had a few kids and you're living at home, it's time to start thinking, and in Stockton, it's time to start thinking about a different way of life, and that's all you got to do, Carrie.
34:06🔗
Adam
She did, and that probably put off her growth for quite some years, being a beautiful woman. Tommy, I know what it's like to be beautiful. I know what it's like. People don't ask as much from you. The door's just open. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Tommy?
34:24🔗
Yeah, this is Sam.
34:27🔗
Caller
I'm living in Reno, Nevada. I've been living here for like maybe five months, and it's, I don't know, man. It's like, I don't know, everybody thinks about this, you know, and every guy wishes they could have it this way, but I'm getting tired of it and there's nothing I can do about it.
34:44🔗
Caller
Well, I'm having sex with girls like at least 10 times a day. And it's like two, three different girls.
34:51🔗
Adam
Yeah, that's rough. Yeah, my balls go out to you, Tommy. That's rough. Listen, I don't know if he's full of ass, but he probably is. Or if he's telling the truth, it doesn't matter to me.
35:15🔗
Adam
Listen, you want to know what this show, you know what this is? This is my dork so big, I can't ride a bicycle.
35:32🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
What do you do with that huge penis? My banana seed bicycle just won't do.
35:49🔗
Caller
All right, and I was with this girl for like five years, and she couldn't make the move with me. My father owns a jewelry business up here, everything's going good. She doesn't want to make the move up here, and it's just like all I do all day is think about this girl. You know, it's like I take care of the other things I got to take care of. I've got a good job. I pay my bills. I don't smoke pot anymore. I do the things I got to do, and I want this girl to come up here so bad, and it's like every time I do this, I feel so guilty about it, and it drives me crazy.
36:22🔗
Caller
Well, it's like, okay, it's like my friend's a DJ, and it's like he goes to all the raves. So, I go with him. And when you got a girl coming up to you on Rolls, and she's just, her eyes are bugging out of her head. Oh, yeah.
36:37🔗
Caller
Oh, come on, be 21 and have a fine-ass girl come up to you and tell you she wants to take you home. What are you going to say?
36:47🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay, so you used to have, wait, you used to have a drug problem. You were doing pot.
36:53🔗
Adam
No, no, no, he's smart. What he's doing is he's going into the morgue after just a bus of cheerleaders went into the ocean and they just fished it out and he's alone in the morgue. I mean, that's essentially what this is. It's a bunch of like screwed up 16 year old chicks that are flying on ecstasy. And he's smart because instead of being high as a kite on ecstasy as a guy in dry humping a speaker, he is stone cold sober and he's the only guy who can get hard in the whole rave. He's just cruising and just banging every chick in there. That's genius.
37:39🔗
Adam
I'm going to be like, how high are you? I was on MTV. MTV, are you freaking? Let's go to my van. I don't think it will work. Yes.
37:50🔗
Adam
You know what I love about engineer Anderson? Do you want to play that back and hear me say I was on MTV? Because Anderson said was in my ear after I already said was. But the point is, I work with the only people. Most people's engineers and producers and stuff are rooting for him. I got Anderson over here trying to sink the boat.
38:20🔗
Dr. Bruce
Anderson's got performance talent and he's back there. He should be in here with us.
38:40🔗
Dr. Bruce
People that stop smoking pot will go on to another compulsive addictive disorder until they deal with the issue. It's not uncommon for people to have several different problems before they really hit bottom or get to the point where they're in pain like some of the others.
38:55🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
My question is at 21, how can you really have a relationship with anyone? How can you have a serious, real committed relationship? Is that possible for 21 year olds?
39:10🔗
Dr. Bruce
But when you're 17, it still may be difficult to conceptualize a committed relationship, but to break the boundaries and go out and have sex with multiple different people, that's not a way of expressing, I'm so in love with this person, but they're not here so I have to go out and get it.
39:27🔗
Adam
All right. Well, listen, I think the guy's a genius for the sexual out and scrape him off the pavement at the rave theory.
39:38🔗
Adam
All right. He knows again, we keep, this is the theme of the night. If you're calling, you know you have a problem, you've stated the problem. Now exercise some control. And it's not all mind over matter, but there is, whether you're talking about picking up the bong, whether you're talking about picking up a pizza if you're overweight, where you're talking about cutting school, where you don't feel like going to school, eventually, it's up to you to do and take care of the business at hand. If you have a problem, abstain, but the people they're calling don't know what the problem is. Don't go to the rave.
40:15🔗
Adam
I understand. Don't go to the rave and stay home. We'll see how many people you have sex with.
40:24🔗
Adam
Then shut up when I say don't go to the rave. How dare you? All right, we'll take a little break. Anderson Cooper is here from the Mall. We'll be back after this. Loveline.
40:58🔗
Adam
I'm scared that Bruce is here for me. Not that way. Anderson Cooper is our guest tonight. He's the host of The Mole, a very interesting guy who has been to many a troubled nation with a microphone and camera. And I really, I respect it. I also think you're nuts. But it's a healthy kind of, I think you're nuts. The Mole, which is 8 o'clock Tuesday nights on ABC, a fabulous Stone Stanley production.
41:31🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
We actually did have a psychologist traveling with us, so maybe you could. You could be the traveling psychologist.
41:38🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Which we all thought was kind of a joke starting off with, like we're like, oh, we don't need this. By the end, everyone was consulting this guy.
41:44🔗
Adam
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. He should have brought some, like some hookers and really massage therapists would have been good. Karen, you're 23.
41:55🔗
Caller
About 24 hours ago yesterday, I got into the shower and I was told by my doctor that I was seven weeks pregnant. And yesterday in the shower, as I'm finishing, I start bleeding. It wasn't heavy. It was just there was there wasn't a constant flow. It's just kind of basically like spotting.
42:14🔗
Seven weeks.
42:19🔗
I see.
42:20🔗
Caller
Now, I don't I didn't think, first of all, that it was that far because with my calculations, I was only five weeks. Now I want to know what the likeliness of him miscalculating are. Also, I had the depot shot, so it was about eight months after I had the depot shot that I got pregnant. So my ovulation was off a little bit.
42:39🔗
Caller
Oh, yeah. I have a positive pregnancy test. They've taken three blood tests, three straight weeks in a row, and it seems to be multiplying perfectly.
42:56🔗
Adam
Hold on a second, loud mouth. That's why I yelled Bruce before I then stated the question. So Bruce, how do they tell the conception date? Bruce, how do they tell the conception date?
43:09🔗
Sorry.
43:10🔗
Adam
We got to go to the next one. Bruce, you start playing along. Either you don't know or you know. Which is it? How do they tell? Don't know? Say don't know. Say don't know.
43:26🔗
Dr. Bruce
Why can't we? The last normal pregnancy, the last normal period, two weeks after the last normal period. Okay, she's having vaginal bleeding.
43:41🔗
Dr. Bruce
You have a little wheel and it's a last normal menstrual period. Positive pregnancy test, you start from there.
44:00🔗
Caller
Okay, so now that I'm five weeks pregnant and I started spotting yesterday and my husband and my mother took me to the emergency room. We were there and they found no tissue so they said it wasn't necessary to do an ultrasound and I went in and saw my doctor today and he found the pregnancy and he said the pregnancy is fine but I haven't stopped bleeding. What could it be? Could it be a period maybe?
44:24🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay, first of all, there's almost a normal nature to losing a pregnancy in the first trimester. So many people get pregnant and miscarry very early on. They think it's a menstrual period. So nonetheless, what you're having now, what your doctor will do is every couple of days get a beta-HCG, will get another pregnancy test to make sure that the hormone is increasing at a normal rate which tells you that things are going okay and at some point probably get an ultrasound. But there's nothing in the first trimester they're going to do. They might put you at bed rest.
45:03🔗
Caller
They did. They did. They said not to get out of bed for two weeks. Now my doctor is on vacation for two weeks so I won't be having any blood tests done. Now I had no pain whatsoever, no back pain, no cramping. It just started bleeding.
45:17🔗
Dr. Bruce
Right. It really, whether or not you have pain, especially in the first trimester, it's a matter of you're either going to keep it or not. There's nothing you can do therapeutically.
45:36🔗
Dr. Bruce
Right. Well, if the bleeding increases or you pass tissue, you need to go back to the emergency room and they will do another pregnancy test.
45:45🔗
Hello?
45:56🔗
Caller
I got caught having sex with my coworker at work. And I want to know what they can do about it because they suspended me for three days already.
46:26🔗
Adam
Well, I mean, you got to expect when you're selling sheets, comforters, duvet covers and whatnot for people just to naturally get it on. Wouldn't you expect that?
46:49🔗
Adam
Nice. All right. You're all class, Julie. We'll see you on Fox, by the way, in a couple of weeks. All right. Listen, did they file a police report? No, they gave them three days. You're fine.
47:12🔗
Adam
They give you three days. Just don't screw any more minors and you'll be fine or get a job in a place where it's more acceptable like that.
47:24🔗
1-800-LOVE-191.
47:46🔗
Adam
Good, good, good radio. Anderson Cooper is our guest tonight. He is the host of The Mole, ABC. Tomorrow night, Tuesday nights, eight o'clock. And let's see. Let's go to, is that Chelsea? Chelsea is, we'll take that call next. Chelsea is 17. Chelsea? What's up?
48:14🔗
Dr. Bruce
Because they're always making fun of gays and bisexuals and I get offended and they don't understand why.
48:40🔗
Adam
Well, that's refreshing. I mean, not to talk to someone who's raped, but to see someone who's actually doing some time for screwing with their kids.
49:10🔗
Adam
No priors or anything? No prior convictions for rape or anything like that? Forty years, huh? Wow.
49:36🔗
Dr. Bruce
I broke up with my girlfriend because she wanted to have, I don't know what it's called. Three way?
50:06🔗
Adam
Yeah. Does it seem a little strange to be engaged to a male when you're not really that into males?
50:19🔗
Adam
I see. But you understand, Chelsea, that what your dad, the horrible thing that your dad did, you kind of bent your antenna a little bit. Yeah.
50:29🔗
Adam
Spun your compass around sexually. So it's a little hard to find a direction, and you're kind of going in a few different directions right now. And nothing wrong with bisexuality, but it always means the person's screwed up. I know it's not a real popular opinion. A lot of people don't like to talk about it, but it's always... The reason you're bisexual is because your dad raped you when you were nine. It really is. I know that. But here's the deal. There's nothing we can do about that now. And that's fine. So you are the way you are. And you can be bisexual. But the trouble is, is when you then get married, you then have kids, you then start a family, and then you start seeing a woman, and then things get screwed up, and then you're saddled with another guy who does to your kid what your dad did to you. And that's what we want to avoid. So A, you don't have to tell your dad anything because you don't talk to him, right?
51:25🔗
No.
51:32🔗
Dr. Bruce
So what's the nuclear family like? Your great grandmother, you, and who else is in the home?
51:42🔗
Adam
80. Okay. Listen, you'll kill her. This will be the last thing she remembers before she goes to her grave. Now listen here, screwball. Turn that radio down back there, please.
51:54🔗
Adam
I understand, but if she hears my nasally drone coming through the speakers, she'll know something's up. And believe me, at her age, it's going to take her a day and a half to get to your room to tell you to turn it down.
52:08🔗
Adam
Okay. Listen, Chelsea, I know it's become a repetitive theme for tonight, but therapy, therapy, and a little more therapy.
52:21🔗
Adam
Tell your therapist and then talk to your therapist about telling your dog and your great-grandmother. All right? But don't tell them for a little while. Give her a break, this woman.
52:38🔗
Adam
You didn't say she's bisexual. Yeah. Why don't you talk to your therapist about it and you guys can decide a course of action.
52:52🔗
Dr. Bruce
I'm very attracted to this guy. A lot of people say I'm ugly and he's actually one of the few boys I've ever seen that have taken me for my personality.
53:14🔗
Dr. Bruce
All right. The most important thing you could do now is the therapist thing. And the most important thing with a therapist is just to be perfectly honest and talk about everything that's going on. Because otherwise, they're going to have a real hard time helping you work things out.
53:27🔗
Adam
All right. Talk to the therapist and see what you two can come up with. Oh, boy. This poor great grandmother. Jason.
53:35🔗
What's up, mayonnaise?
53:43🔗
Adam, first of all, I got to tell you, you are king.
53:45🔗
Of the man show, especially that bit on Women's Refuge. Classic, brother.
53:51🔗
Women's Suffrage.
53:52🔗
Adam
There you go. Classic. I'm glad you got the nuances of it. Yes, we want to put an end to Women's Suffrage.
54:01🔗
Actually, I wanted to discuss the smelly kid in Junior High, which I think everyone can relate to. Remember that kid in Junior High, 7th, 8th grade, who was just a late bloomer on the personal hygiene?
54:16🔗
Remember that kid?
54:17🔗
Adam
Yeah. How much material are you going to do on that kid, by the way? Do your three-minute set.
54:24🔗
Actually, I wanted to ask you, what's up with the Nazi warden screening the phone lines?
54:34🔗
Yes.
54:38🔗
Caller
Here's one last thing. You ever notice anybody that says, I will not be made a fool of? Are you there?
54:46🔗
Adam
Yes. They seem to be made a fool of. No, I don't notice that, but I do notice when people start a sentence with, I would like to help, it always means you'll get no goddamn help for me in any way, shape or form.
55:00🔗
Adam
Yeah, it's funny. People go, I'd like to help. Like you go, hey buddy, can you help me move this way? Well, I'd like, and you go, okay, that's it. If you're saying you'd like to, I know I'm screwed. All right. Good call there. Yeah. Ravi? Yes. That was the one call Anderson picked up.
55:21🔗
Yes.
55:23🔗
I have a problem. I'm a police officer and I seem to be, I started getting these dreams about getting into these fights and having to shoot somebody, only they don't die. I just wondered if I'm in the right profession.
55:45🔗
Well, yeah. I mean, in my dream I can hit this person and they fall down, they just keep getting up and sometimes it's hard for me to pull the trigger in my dreams. I just can't do it sometimes.
55:57🔗
Adam
I've had this dream many a time and I'm sure it's a common dream. Do you guys agree? Have you ever had this one? Yeah. You get in a fight, you're punching a guy, it's not really doing anything.
56:07🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I've had the one where I'm in a war and I have a gun but it has no ammo.
56:20🔗
I just started having these dreams after I chased somebody down and I actually had to pull my gun on somebody and I almost shot them. I had my finger on the trigger and I started pulling the trigger and he finally stopped doing what he was doing and the hammer on my gun was cocked half way back. I couldn't put it in my holster. My holster wouldn't snap and ever since then I've been having these dreams.
56:45🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay, I mean obviously you're in a highly stressful job and you have a lot of, a lot of police officers that I've dealt with develop drinking problems. They're not always using the healthiest ways to deal with the stress and the anxiety of the workplace.
57:04🔗
Adam
What I'd recommend is there's always an employee assistance program which their specialized counselor is completely confidential from your job and you can just sit down and talk to them and this is a normal reaction to the stress on your job and it's something you need to deal with and yeah it's having dreams though it doesn't sound like if it's recurrent I mean if it was one dream it sounds like Robbie is how often you have in the dreams usually two or three times a week yeah so how long you've been working as a police officer about eight months okay so it's it may just be an adjustment thing but it sounds like if you're calling the show and asking the question about it and it's a recurrent thing it would probably help to talk to somebody on a regular basis that could help you work through this are you just are you a patrol guy yeah I'm just I'm I started at the bottom what do you do do you write tickets I don't like getting out writing tickets too much good good and you tell all those guys who do you call them pussies yeah yeah understand make sure I don't I don't care too much for getting out of the vehicle writing tickets I'd good that's right you have too much dignity for that that's right you didn't you didn't you didn't get on the force you could write some teenager jaywalking ticket you got on the force you could take down perps that's that's exactly right I didn't get on there too but that's right and listen drink thank you thank you and this is what I'd like here's what I'd like out of all all cops all of you everyone within the sound of my voice listen to me I want you to start labeling the guys who write traffic tickets as pussies all right and anyone anyone any cop who writes like a jaywalking ticket I want you to treat around the precinct like they treat child molesters and pedophiles in prison I want the guy to wear scarlet letter you understand amongst your own amongst your own ranks I want them to be so humiliated I want every cop to be scared assless that he's out writing a guy jaywalking ticket another cruiser pulls by and word gets back to the precinct that this pussy was writing a jaywalking ticket that's the way I'd like it at all police force I want everyone just to be scared to get out of the car and write ticket have you read a jaywalking ticket? Yes I have yes I had it in a dump known as Burbank which has more cops per capita than any other city in the world and they raise most of the money with the chicken ass tickets like jaywalking but you know what I beat that ticket thank you very much. How did you do that? Why?
59:38🔗
Adam
And time on my side and a conviction on my side and I beat it and let me tell you the police force in Burbank and any of the city officials in the city of Burbank can kiss my smelly hairy ass you pack of pussies I beat your ass so kiss it kiss it you mother f'ers and you owe me by the way for the two days I had to go down there for that chicken ass nonsense now get back to work all of you get back to work please cop I have nothing but respect for those in the law enforcement community. I do too but the guys who write jaywalking tickets no but they're like this guy they have a lot of anxiety good what better thing to do than pull over Adam Corolla for jaywalking there's no way you're going to pull out Newsy and shit yeah it's a safer guy to give it to well listen sorry kids I won you won nothing you got nothing from me you understand you vultures you Burbank police vultures nothing pussies Lucy you're 16 yeah good did Adam sell tickets to the ball and have some dignity would you if you want money is Adam scaring you Lucy put a coffee can after in the precinct and have people drop quarters into it you need money yeah you know lithium here how dare you listen I'm sorry I'm not supposed to go on these Jags anymore but I can't take it here's a deal I want people to get pulled over for Jay walking or any other chicken ass to be outraged you cops I respect you do what we tell you to do and everything will be fine you're not here to shake down the public you understand that's some extortion racket you're not the march of dimes you need money get it through the taxes don't shake down pedestrians please go ahead Lucy yeah I'm 16 and people are always calling in saying that they can have orgasms well mine are like one after another they're just they're controllable yeah with a guy yeah wow he must be feeling pretty good about himself about now he doesn't get too used to this is that normal or no not normal in a very good way because most people are saying that they can have one well mine are just uncontrollable you have what you have this you have one boyfriend yeah how long have you been with him for about seven months how old is he 19 when you say uncontrollable not like painful uncontrollable huh not like painful uncontrollable like pleasurable uncontrollable yeah how many would you say you have in a typical session um I don't know I can't there's maybe five five really they're just yeah geez that's uh that's my tally for the last eight years I've been one night so they said I agree boyfriend's 19 at least three of those were faking it where'd you meet your boyfriend I'm actually met him at school he graduated last year hmm I see and what's he moving on to besides giving you orgasms um he's going to college he's um junior college uh-huh junior yeah yeah taking his basics now and then he's not going anywhere nobody's going anywhere that's believe me this junior college a complete waste of time if you didn't if you couldn't get together in high school you're not just going to take care of a few few classes and transfer everyone's every go go over to Valley College over here in Van Nuys and see how many people have been transferring to UCLA for the last 40 years nobody's going anywhere that's a sign that should be put in front of every junior college nobody's going this is a roach motel you know you don't get out one of them advertises even that they don't go with Santa Monica the highest Sam is the highest they're at the point two percent that's in the nation okay Lucy how you know when you're in a relationship I think what Adam's trying to convey is it doesn't sound like he's feeling this is the most stable individual and you're in an intensely sexual relationship with him he's 19 you're 16 there's there are some other issues here well why are you calling what's what's the problem well I was just calling to ask if that was normal me having orgasms one after another well I mean you've talked to your friends right well no not really we just listen to the show I mean somewhat but not I mean it's perfectly normal it's fine for you that's how you are some women don't have orgasms and others have multiple orgasms and you stole other women's orgasms you stole my dates orgasms I want them back do you hear me I want you to orgasm into a thing of Tupperware and send it over to the radio station I'm gonna then collect it and bring it with me on my next day and then in the middle of a passion I will open it and release an orgasm yeah all right Lucy Lucy are you using protection yes I am you are we are you on the pill I'm on the on the push up good girl now are you guys getting married or any that kind of stuff we haven't gone out for good but everything's going good he's an okay guy yeah treat you right yeah I'm up on the pedestal pretty much all right and he's you're on the depot and on the pedestal right all right you're fine then that's just fine you're lucky okay you're a little head of the game okay that's all it's a big emotional difference between 16 and 19 and this son of a bitch better enjoy the hayride while it lasts hmm so let me tell you I for me to get an orgasm out of the woman is like trying to get a ragdoll from a pit bull and with Lucy she's just handing them out hmm pow pow pow man she had sort of a little girl no she was she's 16 he's 19 yeah such a big difference it is it is it is but illegal what's the no that's not legal no but there's so many 16 year olds who are with 19 year olds he treats her right he knew they knew each other from high school even though she was just touring it with her junior high class well he was graduating but I mean they knew each other from school he treats her right she's on depot she's having a thousand orgasms a minute how you gonna tell her to stop having sex you know what I mean yeah all right the reality is when all right yes don't listen you saying how bad it is for a 19 or 16 year old to have sex is not gonna I'm not saying bad I'm just saying that what happens a guy goes off to college this is not a relationship going anywhere it's going to junior college in Bakersfield people change a huge amount from the time they're 16 when she's 18 or 19 she's not gonna be into this guy because they're gonna change good you but to have an intense sexual relationship they're having sex she's having a thousand orgasms what are you gonna do she should be dating around at 16 she shouldn't be in a sexual relationship with a 19 year old it's not good for it's not that it's bad it's just not good I know but here's the deal here's the reality of this show are we gonna talk her out of that no but I think you can project normal to be what normal is not that's not normal it's not healthy so I think you should say it's not healthy what cuz it's not healthy for a 16 year old girl to be an intense sexual relationship with a 19 year old guy she should be dating around once you start having sex you have very all right listen Bruce yes what is healthy and what is normal can be two different things it may not be as healthy as you'd like common normal or common it is these days but if you project it to all the people with all the kids listening well it seems it's okay because they treat it as if it's okay if I'm in my private practice and this kid comes in she's going to be coming in because of emotional problems related to being in a sexual relationship with a 19 year old so I'm just basing it on what I see it would be better if everyone didn't have sex I agree except for us Joseph you're 18 what's up how's it going guys good I had a question for Anderson yeah what kind of clues are we supposed to be looking for on the show I mean obviously all the contestants are you know throwing some suspicion but just because they're you know walking behind some and others are you know not working as hard but that's just I mean that could be anything you know you know you just got to watch carefully I mean you got to watch these tests that they take and in every episode there's like two or three different tests and you know some of them are you know like there's a woman Kate who's a grandmother and she's huffing and puffing through a lot of the tests and a lot of the other players are saying well she's kind of playing it she's faking it you just got to at home you know you you got to make up your own mind over whether you know some of these things are real are these false clues or not but they're definitely they're definitely clues you know if you watch closely you can you can figure I mean it's best to kind of try to pinpoint one or two people who you think the mole is and and kind of watch them more closely than the others but like most people thought it was this girl Wendy and she got executed eliminated last week so and what what kind of questions are they asked on the test on the little quizzes at the end yeah the quiz though that's how you get eliminated at the end of the show you take it this 20 question quiz about who you think the mole is and it's it's some of the questions are real simple like you know what did the mole have for breakfast yesterday stuff that the players would know to like you know during this test did the mole ride in a boat or ride in a helicopter or you know what did the mole wear yesterday is the mole left-handed so stuff that you got to just I mean at home you wouldn't really know but that's why we don't show you all the questions in the quiz and we show a little bit just to get a taste of it. Let me uh hold on let me let me float something here I know we got ten million dollars on the line right but uh I got friends with money yeah we could pool you must make a pretty nice change. I do fine I'm not gonna put in toward this but I do fine but I know guys who make money and I know some some guys that know their way around the law Jimmy's cousin Sal passed the bar before he came out here and became a stoogey for the man show. We could probably put together a decent some decent representation for you. Yeah I think you should tell us who the mole is right and here's my theory. You say who the mole is it becomes a huge media story it's all over the place and then there's so much sort of subsidiary mole sort of extra media that's that's even though it's negative right even though it's giving out who the mole is people are there becomes a mole frenzy everyone's talking about the mole and people tune in just to watch the guy they know or the girl they know is the mole.
1:10:15🔗
Adam
That's one cool thing about the show is that it's kind of like the sixth sense like you can see it again once you know you know the gimmick on the sixth sense so right in the show once you know who the mole is it's kind of fun to actually watch all the episodes because you know and you can watch that person play I'm saying it might be a good ploy you think I think it would get it Joseph what do you think yeah that might work okay thank you for that so what all right forget it this isn't just a watcher this may not be the week how many weeks do we have nine weeks total we've been on three weeks this will be the fourth week coming up I'd say about week six yeah you get drunk you start talking the entertainment tonight and ET and ET and Extra and all this stuff it gets all over the place everybody starts buzzing about it I go to a rave they can't believe that you said the mole everyone's talking mole mole mole it's at the front of every newscast and then the viewership goes way up because of just the just overall mole buzz and people watching wanting wanting to see which one it was that's my theory I'm going to talk to Stone Stanley about this all right if you can clear with them yeah I'll get them to sign up I'm like in litigation for the rest of my life no no listen but but listen you got to trust me I know those students I'll talk to them if they give me the thumbs up I'll just come back I tell you discreetly come back and tell me about we don't need anything in writing all right I'm saying they're busy guys if you can give me Johnny Cochran his representation I'll I'll get you I'll get you I think he said I think he's doing like Jesse Jackson or this guy didn't have to go to Yale to figure out that you're not the best career counselor I don't know I don't know I think it would work all right let's take ourselves a little break Anderson Cooper's our guest tonight he's from of course the mole Dr. Bruce is here he's from God knows what some college no one's heard of the mole may have went to college there because no one knows where it is and we'll be back after this hello this is Loveline 1-800-LOVE-191 Loveline will be right back on the phone number 1-800-LOVE-191 Anderson Cooper is here tonight from the mall tomorrow night. XFL cheerleaders are going to be here.
1:12:33🔗
Adam
Yeah, I'm going to be excited to see them and I'm glad to see them sharing the spotlight with some of the other guys.
1:12:39🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
All right, the football players in the NXL or whatever they're called, XFL make 40,000 bucks a year, right? What do the cheerleaders make?
1:12:50🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Wouldn't that be great if they're all pregnant? That'd be cool.
1:12:53🔗
Adam
It would really be cool to see one out there in about her eighth month. You know what I mean? Big swollen breast, belly all over the place, kicking out.
1:13:02🔗
Adam
Each time she did one of those high leg kicks, you're scared someone's going to come out.
1:13:09🔗
Adam
I like my strategy of Anderson divulging who the mole is tonight. I think it would build some publicity and show business. Any publicity is good publicity.
1:13:33🔗
Caller
Yeah. I performed oral sex on my boyfriend twice and I have like a real problem with gagging. I was wondering if there's anything I can do to stop from gagging.
1:13:54🔗
For about a month maybe.
1:14:30🔗
Adam
Let's go. Let's go. I say blow job on three. On three. Ready? Break. Let's go. Come on.
1:14:37🔗
Adam
Leaves your world? Get down there and blow. Your last easy day was yesterday. Let's go now.
1:14:46🔗
Adam
All right, let's go. Let's get a hand in now. Let's break it down now. Grab a knee. Grab a knee. Come on. Break it down. Yeah, I like to do a little coaching.
1:15:04🔗
Adam
Come on, baby. It's the fourth quarter now. You're tired. It's 105. It's Tampa. You got to start digging deep now. It's time for a goal line stand. Let's get down in that four point stance and let's go. Dig in now. I want you to go for my penis. It's hell bad for leather. You understand? I'll make a good coach one day. You really would. You see me at the camp on?
1:15:29🔗
Adam
Yeah, like on that sled yelling, the whistle in my mouth. You know what I used to like? My coaches used to talk with the whistle in their mouth, but it would be partly whistling while they were talking in just normal conversation with just a slight whistle out of the side. It was always a little distracting. Chelsea, I think this is something you two will just kind of work through. I don't know that there's any magic technique pill we can give you over the air.
1:16:11🔗
Adam
Yes. Can it be trained at all? Do you know what I mean? Some people have a very sensitive one, others don't.
1:16:32🔗
Dr. Bruce
And what's important is how you feel and don't worry about, you know, what he feels about it.
1:16:45🔗
Adam
Let me ask about the gag reflex for just one second. I know Anderson has many questions on it as well. He's perked up. He's looking very inquisitive now. Obviously, you can sort of train it to the extent that a woman can go down on a man, your average woman who's in her god knows 20s or 30s, who's been with a man or two, can go down on a man without any difficulty. And if you took your average heterosexual male and told them to go down on a guy, they would probably feel like they were going to vomit. I mean, partially because it made them sick. They have a penis in their mouth. But do you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like you take your average. Anne is a couple of years younger than I am.
1:17:27🔗
Adam
She's had 700 lineal miles of penis in her mouth. No, Anne is a very god lover. She's beautiful. She's a happily married woman, but she knows what a man likes. She's not going to deny that. And Anne has had more penis in her mouth than I have. Or just about anyone in North America.
1:17:46🔗
Adam
No, I mean it. Anne is... I've never had a penis in my mouth when I wasn't at camp. And Anne has had a penis in her mouth.
1:17:56🔗
Adam
What I'm saying is, is Anne has trained herself to a certain extent not to gag during the oral pleasure of her husband, which comes twice a year on Easter and on... No, right? And she has trained that. So a woman obviously has the ability to train that reflex. And Chelsea over here with time and a loving relationship could probably work that out. Wouldn't you agree?
1:18:24🔗
Dr. Bruce
Yeah, she's 16. She's gagging with the penis. She should probably not have it in her mouth.
1:18:35🔗
Adam
All right. But she should... You sound like a rabbi, by the way. She's 16. She's gagging with the penis.
1:18:50🔗
Caller
Yeah, I was wondering, how do you tell if you're like a compulsive liar or is there any way to fix that?
1:19:02🔗
Caller
Well, no matter what I do, I keep lying to my boyfriend and I really don't want to, and it's really like affecting our relationship.
1:19:11🔗
Caller
I mean, everything from big things to little things, and it's more little things now, but I don't know, I can't stop.
1:19:20🔗
Dr. Bruce
Are you lying to hide something or because you're embarrassed about the truth or are you lying with a motive?
1:19:27🔗
Caller
Yeah. Sometimes I have a motive and other times it'll be like just stupid little things that really don't need to be lied about.
1:19:37🔗
Caller
Yeah. It's just like, I mean, it doesn't really matter with other people, but it really matters with him. We've been together for what, two, almost three years?
1:19:46🔗
Adam
Well, yeah, just about three now. Tell me again, tell me the biggest, most damaging thing you've lied about with him.
1:20:08🔗
Adam
Oh, I see that. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little too much of a stretch. And what did he find out about?
1:20:22🔗
Caller
He wanted to know everything and he was getting really upset and we had a really big fight and I ended up telling him everything.
1:20:45🔗
Caller
What do you... I mean, he'll be like, what did you do today? And I'll be like, oh, you know, I went here and when I really went there and it wasn't like a big deal. It doesn't matter either way.
1:21:08🔗
Adam
OK, so you mean if you went and saw a movie with one of your girlfriends and he said, what did you do? You'd say you went shopping.
1:21:17🔗
Caller
Oh, I'd be like, I totally used to do this. You know, I might be like, well, yeah, I don't know. I would probably like either embellish or fib or lie about it. Yeah.
1:21:32🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Yeah. It was just like it became like this thing. I just couldn't stop.
1:21:39🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Yeah. And like you find you get away with it. But ultimately, you never get away with it. Ultimately, it all comes out and you end up looking like a complete jerk. And also, ultimately, you just start like I stopped basically when it just started to make me feel bad. I started to feel like I was just like sending all this negative stuff out there.
1:21:56🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
No, no, no, no. And I'm just not like bragging about things. It's just like when you're like confronted about anything, your first instinct is to lie about it. Yeah, that's right.
1:22:05🔗
Adam
Well, I do understand that if you're being confronted, not even no, I don't even mean just like suddenly someone asks you, Oh, what did you do today?
1:22:16🔗
Adam
Right. Well, I always do that. What did you do today? What runs through it? Napped and jacked off? Help work hard, kids. I mean, sometimes you can't tell too much of the truth. There's a bubble if you're napping and masturbating.
1:22:33🔗
Dr. Bruce
Okay. So it sounds like it could be you're going through a stage. Sometimes teenagers go through stages where they have an experimental behavior. The question is, are these things getting out of control? Is it getting you in trouble? And is it something that's getting worse? Or is it a limited?
1:22:53🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Don't keep doing it. You're going to wind up encrusting reality to you.
1:22:55🔗
Adam
That's right. You'll be in Somalia dodging bullets. Now, listen, you know what you're doing. You're intelligent. You're fine. You understand it. Stop it. Just keep track of yourself. Listen, everybody, you need to be cognizant of certain things in your life. You need to sort of get outside of yourself and watch yourself.
1:23:15🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I also actually, on the lying thing, found it helpful to set a limit. Like, okay, I'm going to go a day without lying or an hour.
1:23:23🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I was getting into it for a while there. I'd go for a day and I'd feel good.
1:23:34🔗
Adam
Just kind of lying that wouldn't benefit you. It's just people would think you were a liar.
1:23:45🔗
Adam
I mean, a little rush, a little high you get from sort of... In a way, it's a control. If you think about it, it's a sense of controlling somebody.
1:23:54🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
Well, it's also keeping other people distant because they're not getting to know who you are.
1:23:57🔗
Adam
They don't know who you are and you're sort of manipulating them in the sense that they don't know what you're doing or where you're coming from. Yeah, it's control and keeping... But if you...
1:24:08🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I would just say try going for like a day without it and you'll find that you don't need to lie, that it's just kind of stupid and it's just making you ultimately look stupid. And it's not productive. It's not working for you. There are other... If you're going to be manipulative, do something that's at least more effective.
1:24:22🔗
Dr. Bruce
But there are certain behaviors that a lot of kids try. I mean, piercing, tattooing, self-mutilation. You hear a lot about kleptomania or shoplifting. The question is, is it something that's out of control? Is it something where the person feels like they've lost control? And that's when things are more serious and you need some help with them.
1:24:39🔗
Adam
All right. Well, if you can't stop, and I agree, see if you can go a day. If you can't do it, then you got to get some help. When we come back, we'll speak to Cari. She's 21. She's black and is attracted to white men only. Black guys... Only black guys like her, though. This could be a problem. And we'll talk to her after this.
1:24:59🔗
Loveline will be right back, so get your problems ready.
1:25:04🔗
Adam
Yep, it is Loveline. I'm Adam Corolla. It's Dr. Bruce, filling in quite nicely for Dr. Drew tonight. He's on his game. He has his coffee, got his sleep.
1:25:14🔗
Adam
His hair is in place. You know why I'm not abusive? Because somebody's making you mad. You've not been agitating tonight. All right. Anderson Cooper is our guest tonight. Not only an award-winning journalist, he won the bronze flak jacket for his work over in Somalia. He is the host of the Fabulous Mole, which is on Tuesday nights, ABC, 8 o'clock, of course. And let's see if we can get through a few more calls here. Carrie?
1:25:41🔗
Hi.
1:25:51🔗
Caller
I don't know. I just don't, I mean, I don't hang out with a lot of black people. And like black men are just not what I like. They're just, I don't like them. I don't find them attractive.
1:26:05🔗
Caller
I mean, and like mentally too, like a majority of them that like I meet, they can't keep up with me.
1:26:11🔗
Adam
I see. You don't mean in a foot race though, right? No, it's very fast. All right. So you like white guys?
1:26:24🔗
Caller
Don't like me. Like all my friends are white. And like they're so, all my girlfriends are like cute and like, I mean, it's just like, I only get like these ugly, super dark black guys and I'm not attracted to them.
1:26:38🔗
Adam
Right. Same here by the way. But yeah, here's the thing about white guys and black girls and wanting to get a white guy when you're a black girl. Most white guys are going to want to date white girls. And I'd say that's safe to say with most cultures, but you will find a section, I think it is. I think generally is a rule of thumb. I mean, here's what I'm saying. You take your average white guy, you put an attractive black girl in front of him and an attractive white girl in front of him, and he's going to date the white one. Your average guy, all things being equal. It's sort of like this. This is the way it's, and I don't look at that as racism. It's like, I say this, if you take your average white guy and you tell him to watch a boxing match and there's a white guy and a black guy fighting, and there's no other history, most white guys will pull for the white guy and most black guys will pull for the black guy. Most, most. If all things, this is all things being equal. All things being equal. I mean, no, because there's a lot of, there's a lot of white guys that are A-holes and you like the black guy more and you want him to win. But I'm just saying, if you don't know either one of them and everything is completely equal, most Italian guys are going to pull for the Italian fighter and most Irish guys are going to pull for the Irish fighter. I mean, that's human nature.
1:28:00🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
But I think with sexual attraction, like, who knows, with sexual attraction, like who?
1:28:03🔗
Adam
Nobody knows. I agree with you, but I'm just saying all things being equal, most people will usually date within the race.
1:28:15🔗
Dr. Bruce
Because it's your show, but isn't that a San Fernando Valley working class, sort of an interpretation of culture?
1:28:20🔗
Adam
Listen, hold on a second. Carrie. Yeah? I'm sorry. I just have to defend this position for a second. I don't think that's a racist statement at all. And I don't think that people are racist by doing that. I think your average guy or your average girl, your average human being will be attracted to their race most of the time. That doesn't mean that there's not quite a few people, quite a few white guys who are really into black chicks. And they're into black chicks more than white guys are into white chicks. Do you know what I mean? You've got to find those guys. There's a lot of them.
1:28:57🔗
Caller
Okay, when I was growing up, I mean most people, I'm talking to you on the phone, most people would think that I'm white over the phone. Because I sound the way I do and the way I talk. When I was growing up, black people used to hate me. So now that I'm older, it's like I switched and I don't like them, you know what I'm saying? So when a black guy comes up to me and they start talking and they're like, hey baby, what's up? I just don't like that, it's just like I want to smack them in their face.
1:29:29🔗
Adam
Well, a black guy that ain't into that what's up baby, but a black guy who doesn't have all the ramp and everything.
1:29:38🔗
Adam
I have no idea. I don't think he exists. No, I mean, there's Colin Powell. I mean, there's a lot of-
1:29:51🔗
Dr. Bruce
But Carrie, you and Adam sort of seem to have the same mentality about this, and it's almost like a prejudice mentality. You're talking about black guys and white guys. I think that the idea of a lighter skinned person being more attractive to a black male comes out of an era when there was a lot of prejudice and a lot of inequality. But I think these days, fortunately, things are changing where people deal with people just on the basis of how they interact and the attraction there from just a personality.
1:30:27🔗
Caller
People tell me all the time, both physically and personality wise, people are attracted to me.
1:30:34🔗
Dr. Bruce
But how can you say white guys aren't attracted to you? I mean, what's a white guy?
1:30:41🔗
Adam
Bruce, you want to know what a white guy is? Look in the goddamn mirror. You'll see a white guy. You may not even see anything.
1:31:04🔗
Dr. Bruce
Kerry, I mean, don't fall into Adam's trap here. He's a bigot. He has a very working class white.
1:31:10🔗
Adam
What the hell are you talking about? Listen to me, Kerry. Here's what I'm telling you. I'm being straight up, as the black man you don't want to date would say. They're most... You're dealing with a high percentage of white guys are going to date white women. That's the reality.
1:31:42🔗
Adam
What color is she? What color is she? Anderson, what color is your girlfriend or your wife? You have friends. You have white friends. Who are they dating? Here's all I'm saying. Let's not pretend like something doesn't exist. It exists and that's fine. A lot of black people date black people. A lot of white people date white people. A lot of Asians date Asians. A lot of Hispanics date Hispanics. That's life. That's culture. That's fine.
1:32:12🔗
No.
1:32:17🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I think the whole concept of what it means to be white in America has completely changed. What does that mean?
1:32:37🔗
Adam
She needs to open herself up and think about dating a black guy and think about the personality.
1:32:43🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I'd say forget about the race thing. Focus more on the personality and if what you're going for, if you're attracted to someone because they're white, that's kind of the focus.
1:32:51🔗
Adam
She's 21 and she's not physically attracted to black men. It's going to be hard to talk her out of that. There are plenty of white guys who will date you. Thank you. We'll be back. Just having some enlightened conversation with Anderson Cooper from The Mole. Well, that is it. Another fabulous Loveline show. In the Ground, Deeper Than The Mole. XFL cheerleaders tomorrow night.
1:33:24🔗
Adam
Here's what you can do. If you want to be here tomorrow night for tomorrow night show because Drew is coming back, you may, but you cannot leave the studio until this time tomorrow. Okay? So you have some coffee and some half and half and enough water to probably get you through.
1:33:39🔗
Adam
No, you can't go home and come back. If you go home, you have to stay out. You know, like at the club, where they go for the elite, like at the movies? You go, I gotta go out and feed the meat. Once you leave, you can't come back. You go, don't you remember me? No, you can't come back. You go, listen, I go down the street. I'll put money in the screen.
1:33:53🔗
Anderson Cooper with Dr. Bruce
I don't know if he's afraid he's going to go whack off or something.
1:33:57🔗
Dr. Bruce
It's a double bind situation. I'm going home, I'm taking my toys, I've had it with you.
1:34:02🔗
Adam
I want to thank Anderson for coming in. We do appreciate them all, everyone. ABC on Tuesday nights, 8 o'clock. Thank you very much.
1:34:10🔗
Adam
And come in any time you like. Until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Bruce. Say mahalo.
1:34:16🔗
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